06/10/26| My Breakdown Of The Neenah Flock Camera Hearing

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You're listening Outside the Box with Ben Komono's here on
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Whby and Political Voices Network. Outside the Box is brought
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remodeling company the Fox Valley depends on you know, in
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an ideal world, I'd be starting the show off today
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playing sounds of our senior US Senator Ron Johnson claiming
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that there was election fraud in California and then showing
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you how he talks about election fraud when he doesn't
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realize he's being filmed to show you exactly how he's
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shepherding some cattle into a certain line of thinking. And
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if we're lucky, I'm going to be able to still
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jump into that in the ten o'clock hour. But man,
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do I have some thoughts guys? Ooops, as I knock
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my camera off the screen. There, I have some thoughts
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for you guys about yesterday, And let me fill you
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in here on exactly what I have to say to
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you guys today, because not all of you follow me
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on socials and I understand that, so a little bit
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of a lead into what we're talking about. If you
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didn't hear my promos, I was at an event yesterday
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in Nina surrounding the concept of flock cameras. Quite a
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few members of the community, not just Nina, but all
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around the Fox Valley had their opinions on the matter.
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We were joined by the older person of Nina, a
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couple of council members, the chief of the Nina Police Share,
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Officer Olsen was there, and a handful of others as well.
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Sitting at the front table listening to all of us talk.
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Everyone who listens to this show. And I'm choosing my
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words carefully here because thankfully I also have an evening
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show and was I kind of just screamed at the
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camera for an hour yesterday because I was incredibly frustrated
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with the way things played out yesterday. But I'd like
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to kind of lay out why I'm concerned, and then
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I want to talk about the greater public and I'd
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like to highlight We will be joined by Kate Hancock Cook.
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She is the Winnebago County Board of Supervisors District seven representative.
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She was at the event as well. She's gonna be
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calling into the program at nine thirty to talk about
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her thoughts. She was one of the speakers as well,
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I got up and spoke. Over twenty people stood up
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and spoke, and everybody was very respectful of one another's time.
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And I have more thoughts about how people talked as well,
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but allow me to just kind of get this all
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out there first. We are, in my opinion, barreling towards
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a type of surveillance state that I think is going
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to be very difficult to put the toothpaste back in
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the tube. On the other side of doing this, I
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have shared with you guys that our allies in the
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Middle East use Flock Cameras is an Israeli company of course,
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and partner with Pallenteer and use those two softwares to
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monitor the entire Palestinian population and try and determine who
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is going to be a thorn in the side of
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the IDF before they actually do anything. And they use
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these cameras and they use Pallenteer software in order to
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coordinate this. Our government is talking about partnering with Palenteer.
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And while flock cameras are not new, they are popping
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up in locations not just Wisconsin, but specifically because that's
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what matters to us in Wisconsin. They are doubling in number,
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and they are being placed everywhere now. As the technology
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stands right now, it can only take still framed photos.
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But also, when streaming services were created, they were a
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cheap alternative to cable that didn't have commercials or extra
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apps that needed to be purchased. How's that working out
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for all of us?
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Now?
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Reaganomics did not sink the economy overnight. It's been a
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forty five year process to get to where we are.
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But the fact of the matter is, you can see
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the tea leaves, you can see the way things are starting,
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and this is coming. And lord knows, I don't play
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identity politics, but this is coming from a demographic that
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has the least to worry about when it comes to
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flock cameras. Maybe I am a bit in a unique
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position because my career requires me to put my political
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opinions out there every single day, and were I to
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run a foul of the wrong government official, then all
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of a sudden, I might find myself in a different scenario.
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But we already know about the Minasha police officer who
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was alleged to be stalking a random citizen. And the
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only reason that this person was found out is because
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she reported him to a separate police station. We already
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know that Flock is sharing this data with ICE in
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order to catch all the Mixekians. And I'm sure this
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won't be used for the Watts later in life. I'm
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sure that won't happen. There's no point in history where
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government surveillance was used to catch brown people and then
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was ultimately turned around on us. I can't think of
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a single example of that ever happening. So there's no
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reason to be nervous about that. But here's the worst part.
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You can sit there and hear me lay that out there,
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be like Ben, put the tinfoil down. You have no
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idea what you're talking about. None of this stuff matters. Okay, fine,
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let's say I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Let's say that I am just fear mongering for the
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sake of a political talk show. Then let's talk about
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what actually was said and what happened last night. As
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I mentioned, there were about I did a head count.
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This is my own personal count. Could I have miscounted
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by one or two? Maybe I counted thirty six people
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in the audience when we sat down. The people upfront
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even commented on how crowded the event was. They were like, man,
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there's a lot more people than we are used to
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having here this year does and then they emphasized, They
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were like, you get five minutes to speak, and we
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are going to stick to that five minutes very strictly
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because we want to make sure everybody can get their
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thoughts out there. And for the record, everybody did a
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phenomenal job of doing that. I myself and plenty of
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others even mentioned while they were speaking, I have more
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to say, but given how many people are going to speak,
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I have a feeling what I'm going to say is
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going to be echoed by someone else. Over twenty people spoke,
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and I'd argue there was very little repetition, very little
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repeating of oneself. Everybody went up and had a different opinion,
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and I wrote a couple down. I personally went up
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and I quoted Benjaman Franklin's those who are willing to
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sacrifice freedoms for security deserve neither, and I talked about
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how I was raised in America that mocked an authoritarian
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China for doing exactly what we are proposing with these
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flock cameras. People went up and spoke about their experience
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as survivors of abuse at the home and how these
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block cameras could be used in a negative way through
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their experience. We talked about how someone else I shouldn't
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say we everybody was operating with independent thought and thinking.
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Other people stood up and spoke about Flock Camera's claim
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that the surveillance cameras has had end to end encryption. Now,
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for those of you listening to me that don't know
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what that means, that means that much like how signal
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chats work, the company itself is unable to access your data.
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So whatever you message in signal, the company signal is
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not able to acquire. Flock has stated on the record
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that they have end to end encryption and cannot access
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the video that is recorded through those cameras, and there
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are countless examples of Flock doing exactly that, so the
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claims of end to end encryption are obvious. BS people
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went up and talked about it from a sales perspective,
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questioning whether or not RFPs AKA requests for proposals had
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been made to several companies in order to compare Flock
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versus other companies that do the same thing, and for
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the record, just to make it abundantly clear, I am
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not a harm reductionist in this matter. I'm not anti Flock,
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specifically for Flock. I am anti over the top surveillance
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in a town that absolutely does not need it. I'm
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gonna be real with you, guys. I am coming from
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a city where crime is infinitely more prevalent than anything
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that is happening in the Fox Valley. And I would
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never advocate for these cameras to go up in Pittsburgh,
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let alone in a place like any of the cities
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in the Fox Valley. People were saying, how is it
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that the security failures are obvious, they're flagrant, they are proven,
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and yet we still are interested in doing business with them?
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And how many of us in the corporate world if
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every time you turned my show on fifteen percent of
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the time I was spreading misinformation, how long would it
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take some of you before you realize that there's probably
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better programming out there. Although I'd probably have more magas
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listening to me. The list goes on and on, twenty
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plus people talking twenty plus unique attitudes. And I can
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say this with all the humility on the planet, which
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that sentence in and of itself is counterintuitive, But I
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think I'm a very good public speaker. I think speaking
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in public is a strength that I have, and I
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would argue, if you're a regular listener, you would probably
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agree with that sentiment. I was a and even in
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the top half of people that were talking yesterday, people
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were so well spoken, they were so well versed. They
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knew their facts, they knew what they were talking about.
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They were coming out there with statistics and examples of
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failings and talking about other places in the Fox Valley
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like Oshkosh who have ended their contract with Fluck and
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so many people who took time out of their Tuesday
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afternoon to go and speak out against an obvious example
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of government overreach. And then our time to speak was done,
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and it was time to listen to the police chief,
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and it was time to listen to the elected officials.
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The elected officials were across the spectrum, some of them.
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One of them said, where does it stop if we
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take these cameras down? What other cameras are we going
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to take down? If anybody was talking about taking cameras
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down from private lands, they weren't. They're talking about the
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public lands where most of us are not consenting to this.
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Other elected officials talked about the threats to protesters that
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could exist, and that's absolutely real. And when I say protesters,
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some of you are thinking, yeah, well, black lives Matter
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and PIFA need to get cracked down. I will remember
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that the next time you want to do an anti
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VAXX protest and these cameras are against you, and I'll say,
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n your safety and security outweighs all, because apparently that's
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the way that you feel about these kind of things.
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And when the.
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Police chief spoke, he said that the thirty plus of
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us over thirty five, according to my count, represent a
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fraction of a fraction of a percent of the community
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of Nina, and that nothing we said was going to
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sway people's opinions. Argue, if I had to guess, this
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is complete speculation. The max capacity of that room was
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probably eighty people. We got close to filling half of that.
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Where were so many people there that they felt a
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need to comment on how many people were in that room,
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saying that it was so out of the ordinary for
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that many people to be there. And the police chief said,
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you're a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of
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a percent of the people who are in Nina and
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that this is not swaying their opinion. And from some perspective,
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there were men in this room, there were women in
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this room. There were non binary people in this room.
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I was chatting with a man named Jordan who was
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wearing a Fox Valley Libertarian shirt, and I'm sitting there
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as a tax the rich progressive. There were Democrats there,
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there were Republicans. There fill in the blank of the
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identity group, gen X, Boomers, gen Z, millennials. Everybody was represented.
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One person had a positive block story. Everybody else was frustrated.
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And the mayor of Nina took to the camera to
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refer to the community that was there as an echo chamber.
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We were not an echo chamber. We were the most diverse,
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although not literally in terms of diversity, it was one
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hundred percent whatt but we were an incredibly diverse community
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of what people in that room with taking dozens of
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different perspectives about our frustration. The idea that anything that
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took place in that room could be misconstrued as an
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echo chamber means that people were not listening. We're gonna
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have an elected official on the program at nine point
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thirty to talk about this more. We have our first
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call today. We're going to get that call in. Anybody
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else wants to chime in nine to two oh two
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eight one eleven fifty nine two oh two eight one
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eleven fifty, and we will continue this conversation be on
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the call as well. But I want you guys to
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chime in, especially anyone listening to me who was at
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that event. I would love to hear from you. Nine
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to two oh two eight one eleven fifty. Hello, you're
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on outside the box.
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Hey, good morning, Vent, It's Ben.
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Hey, what's up man?
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Happy to about it? Ah, not much. Just as far
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as like the vaccine thing that you were talking about,
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I don't recall there being any protests for anti vaccine.
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I do recall people going back to work or trying
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to get together in prayer. But they were quickly arrested
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and fined and thrown in jail.
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That's normal, that's normal protest behavior. I'm saying they weren't
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monitored after the fact, and if I remember correctly, didn't
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a bunch of truckers literally block the border between Canada
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and America for a while, like trying to stop any
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kind of commerce because they were that's a protest. So like,
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like that stuff happened, and like and for.
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The record, they have their bank accounts seized. I'm pretty
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sure the truck drivers got their bath's accounts seized.
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Right, Ben. You understand I'm arguing against that. Right.
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I realized that you kind of resorted to tribalism the
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last week or so. But you understand I don't want
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this to happen.
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Correct, Well, yes I do. Ben. I know where your
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heart is, and I think you know where my heart
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is too.
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You know.
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My frustration comes with you cannot ask any questions. These
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are baseless. Everything is baseless. This is you know, this
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is the way it is, and there's been no investigation
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on nothing. We are a nation full of sinners. We
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agree that there's Metacare fraud. We agree that there's healthcare fraud.
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We agree that there's fraud across the board. People lie
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every day of the week. But I swear all our
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elections are free and safe.
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All right, Ben, this isn't what I'm talking about. But
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just to put this to bed right now, you call
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this show multiple times a week. Donald Trump won the
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election in twenty twenty four in the words election fraud
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have not left your mouth in a year and a half,
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and now that MAGA lost, you're talking about election fraud again.
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It's not a matter of asking questions. It's that you
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get mad every time MAGA loses and pretends there's a
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conspiracy behind nobody liking this obviously trash agenda. That's your problem.
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It's not that you're not allowed to ask questions. It's
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that you're not allowed to ask questions only when your
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team loses. I'm not talking about election fraud right now.
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Let's stay focused. Let's stay focused, shall we. Justin says
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there are big movements against flock. I would implore people
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to go to dflock dot org and see the map
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of cameras. Had I went there yesterday and had I
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went yesterday and seen you, I meant to also show
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you this.
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I'll have to look at that more.
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Appreciate that we got a texter here, Tim Ben. When
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the Nina police chief said that you represent a fraction
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of a fraction of the people of Nina, he means
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you're a fraction of the money John Bergstrom runs Nina,
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the mayor, the police. Okay, well, I'll have to look
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into that more. But nevertheless, you're exactly right. And so
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to me when he says thirty six people showing up
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is a fraction of a fraction of a community, and
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everybody shows up well versed in the topic and willing
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to actually have a real conversation about this. No one
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was there saying defund the police. Nobody was there calling
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cops bad names. I'd argue more than half the people said, actually,
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I've had nothing but positive interactions with the Nina police.
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It was an incredibly positive attitude the entire time. And
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what that says to me when it's referred to as
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an echo chamber, despite the fact that it was such
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a diverse community of opinions, When you're called a fraction
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of a fraction of the community, when you are told, wow,
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this is such a large number of people that showed up,
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it says to me that nothing the community did yesterday
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was going to break through what the elected officials and
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the police officers were going to do. These people work
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for us, and I think it's time that they start
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to remember that that is the case, because we ultimately
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get to make these decisions and they are acting like
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we're lucky that they are doing this. DSL says in
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all fairness, you loved mass surveillance when it was catching?
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When did I love it? DSL you point to me
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the receipts. I know you have a caricature of me
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in your head. You find me loving that, and you
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let me know where you find that audio from, because
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it's only in your mind. Cassandra says, Wow, Ben must
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have taken recent mega directive seriously. Yeah, I just think
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nor at this time we got one here no name?
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Um is it common for the police chief to belittle
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the opinions of the people at the meeting? I have
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no idea. I'm gonna be real with you. I don't
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I'm not gonna say I've never gone to these but
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the fact of the matter is it doesn't feel like
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a normal thing. I see I have more texts coming in,
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but I believe my guest is calling in. So here's
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what we're gonna do. One two, we got a less
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than three minute break. We're gonna throw to a three
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minute break. I'm gonna be speaking off the air, and
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then we're gonna come back. As I mentioned at the
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top of the segment, Kate Hancock Cook Winnebago County Board
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of Supervisors District seven, was it? The meeting spoke at
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the meeting is going to share her thoughts on the
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matter as well, and we're gonna jump into that. On
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the other side, you're listening to Outside the Box with
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Ben Commonos here on whby all right, we're back the
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afore mentioned Kate Hancock Cook patially waiting on hold with
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me here. Thank you for joining me today, Kate.
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How are you?
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It's fabulous. It's a beautiful day of Nina, Wisconsin.
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Yeah, yes, that it is, although we are expected just
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atrocious storms later on, but I feel that nevertheless, Look,
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we're we're about what fourteen fifteen hours removed from this
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meeting that you and I both happened to be attending
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here first time I think you and I have ever
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interacted in person before here, and so I just kind
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of wanted to tee you up. We spoke a little
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bit off the air here, but I want to get
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your thoughts on the matter, what you thought about the
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number of people that showed up and what you uh
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and just the way people carried themselves, and then your
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just general thoughts to the reaction to that, to that crowd.
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Okay, I just want to clarify. I am an elected
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member of the Winnebago County Board and I represent a
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couple of districts in Nina. I'm also a member of
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a Newton, the Park and Rec Commission, and the Planning
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Commission in Nina. I was on the Sustainability Committee in
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Nina since two thousand and seven. So I've been interacting
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as a civilian or a memory a citizen member for
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a number of years in committees, and I want to
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clarify for people that Commissions Chairman Scott Weber did a
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great job last night managing what happens in a committee meeting.
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Leterally stated what you can speak when we could speak
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as members of the public, and that afterwards he will
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not be able to address the committee directly. So I
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think that that really went well and he managed that well.
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I want to emphasize to everybody stick with it. You've
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got to keep going. You've got to keep going to
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the city Council. You've got to talk to people at
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all the committee levels you can to keep this in
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front of them, otherwise they thirty people showed up, great,
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Oh yeah, six months from now, they're going to forget.
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I thought I was just going to go and say
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I'm a citizen and I'm against block cameras, but I
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didn't really give five whole minutes. That's pretty exciting. I
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thought that the person who spoke before me, who had
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hand out folks, this guy was totally prepared, did an
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excellent job highlighting the challenges and inconsistencies that Flock has
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continued to present. I thought that all of the citizens
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who spoke had articulate and interesting and as Youth pointed out,
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diverse things to say. I also felt that members of
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the committee had some interesting and diverse things to say.
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And I think that that combination that you cited earlier,
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it was across the board. There are people in there
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in that meeting room I knew I would never agree
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with on anything else politically, but we agreed on this thing.
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It was very very interesting to me. I want to
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highlight that it was shown by the police chief that
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was up the whole time we were talking. I think
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was a presentation taken directly from Flock with the Flock
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emblem in the corner, and it said the future of policing,
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And I thought that was very interesting foreshadowing on what
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the police chief is going to say, also understand that
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they can't make a policy decision instantaneously, but they could
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make it faster than at twenty twenty eight when the
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contract runs out. I think that the position that the
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police chief took that policing was being made easier using
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Flock cameras is interesting, but it's simply a cost benefit
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analysis that wasn't raised. This is a cost tire more
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police officers or use these people these cameras and then
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not know what's happening to the data. And that's the
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biggest concern. We don't know where the data is going.
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I think that the police chief's position that Flock tells
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me it's fine, it's going nowhere, We're all good, is
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a little disingenuous, and I think that we need to
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poke at that a little bit more. Obviously not online,
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and that The other thing that I wanted to highlight
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is they talk about how they get rid of the
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data after thirty days, but that doesn't mean Flock hasn't
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already pulled all the metadata they want out of that information,
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and they have it stored somewhere else, and we don't know.
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We know that that's happened in instances in the past
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relative to ice. And the last thing I'll highlight, because
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I have a lot to say, is that the stories
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that the police chief raised, the anecdotes about where this
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information had been used is great, and we are all
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taught in public speaking that stories are very compelling. Use
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a story. I'm a retired scientist. I want data, and
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there was no data, so there was no timeframe for
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how long it had taken for these stories to occur.
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Was it a number like eight and four years or
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eight and one year, We don't know. We also don't
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have any overall context for how much crime normally occurs
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in Nina. It wasn't cited that this was two percent
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of the crimes in Nina we're solved using flock cameras
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or twenty seven percent. That would be important for us
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to understand terms of how we value that that data. So, okay,
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I'll shut up now.
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Any Well, I thought you were just citing some great information.
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We actually have a texter who said, I haven't done
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a ton of research on them, but I'm also interested
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in the benefits. And I think what you're highlighting there
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is is that you know, there's what's to say, and
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it's something about statistics and lies. But I'm blanking on
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the actual numbers here. But as you and I kind
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of chatted about off the air, and it's a conversation
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that I have regularly on this show, like for sake
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of argument, crime hit a small peak in twenty twenty
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during lockdowns and kind of maintained between twenty twenty and
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twenty twenty two, and has been on a very precipitous
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decline since twenty twenty two. And in twenty twenty six,
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people say, oh, look, how great all of these policies
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are that we're just enacted, when in reality, it is
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just reflecting a trend that we were on even prior
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to the policies being enacted, and you kind of view
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this from even a more macro scale than that, even
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kind of going back several decades.
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Yeah, I was looking at the data before I went
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to the meeting, just to clarify, because it's sometimes you know,
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there's what we call in statistics, signals versus noise, Right,
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you don't know if what's happening is just variation or
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is it the actual thing that you did that's causing
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that change, And so it's hard, as the chief did
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point out, this has only been a couple of years
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of data. It's hard to know if the effect is real,
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but we do know that we've seen an ongoing decrease
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in crime overall for the last forty years. I would
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recommend your listeners go to our world in data and
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look up crime statistics for the United States for the
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last fifty years, and we see declines in everything, and
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so our guess our policing is getting better, and that
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it's getting better. Before FLOCK showed up, maybe the other
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thing that we were talking about is that and your
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person who texted in there, As far as I can see,
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there are no studies that show that flock is effective
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other than studies that we're backed by FLOCK. So it's
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important to note that the other thing is this overwhelming
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set of so that the police chief said that he
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does share with this conglomeration of two hundred and fifty
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city police departments. Then, as somebody pointed out, very validly,
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well how do we know what happens to that data
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in those police departments? We don't know, We don't have
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you know, and we have this sort of a well
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we'll call it a gentleman's agreement that they're all going
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to treat the data confidentially and all that kind of stuff.
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And I think we're in an era where gentlemen's agreements
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no longer count. So I'm concerned about that security. Pardon me,
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I'll hang that up.
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Oh, no worries. Yeah.
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And I think a lot of the consternation Kate, we're
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speaking with Kate Hancock Cook here Winnebago County Board of Supervisors,
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District seven. I think a lot of the consternation stems
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from the fact that I would say, say at least
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a half a dozen different people were highlighting the very
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obvious lies that Flock was caught in when talking about
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what they do with the data with their end to
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end encryption. We obviously have the situation in Oshkosh surrounding
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heap maps that we've talked about on this show ad
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nauseum when that was going on a couple months ago,
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and blanking on the exact timeframe that it was now
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because it just feels like one long day these days.
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But I think there's a broken trust. And I think
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it was mentioned at the meeting yesterday that if you,
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as an individual were working with a company and had
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your chust broken this many times it'd be a cold
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day in hell before you continued working with them. And
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it kind of feels like that's where a lot of
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this frustration. Not that a lot of the people in
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that room would have been okay with a different company,
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but this company obviously has trouble really letting us know
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what's going on behind the scenes, and that that's provable,
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that's not really a that's not a conspiracy at this point.
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Yeah, And I think that that's true, and that was
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interesting in that again, the police chief did cite them.
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If you go back and watch the meeting. Oh and
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the meeting was of the Public Safety Commission for the
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City of Nina. So those are citizen members and council
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members who are on that commission and they meet on
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I think a bi monthly basis. I serve on the
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Judiciary and Public Safety Committee for the county Winnebago County.
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Winnebago County has twenty flock cameras. And I think that, oh, no,
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I lost my train of thought relative to the issues
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about the lying. But I think that the challenge for
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Chief Olsen was he cited that he called the FBI
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to see if they could access the data. Well, they
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probably could if they were granted that through ICE, through
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the Department of Homeland Security, because they don't seem to
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have any trouble citing this using this data, and there's
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been instances in numerous cities across the United States. Dayton,
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Ohio surprisingly cut off their flock cameras this year or
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late last year because they found out that it was
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in Dayton, Ohio. Doesn't seem to be a hot bed
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of liberal thinking. But they were concerned about but that
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the fact that the data was being being used for
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purposes your police department hadn't authorized.
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Yeah, it's a really interesting conversation. For the record, for
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everybody listening. This event was last night. I will be
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reaching out to a chief of police, Olsen with Nina
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to see if he wants to come on the program here.
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But Kate, before I let you go, before we wrap
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up this segment here, do you have any other thoughts?
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I do think I appreciate you kind of sharing the
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stick with it attitude. That was my thought when I
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heard people talking about moratoriums, and I was like, all
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that's going to happen is people are going to forget
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about this and be right back in the frying pan
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in twelve months or whatever the situation is. And so
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I guess I opened the floor for you. Any last
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comments before we wrap.
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Up, I just again, I would reinforce that, and being
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a feminist, I just want to remind you everybody that
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suffrage took seventy three years, so we need to have
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more patients than our current age yet generally allows us
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to have. But I would say that being making sure
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that you stick with this people Listen, if people keep
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showing up and go to your county board, go to
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your any committee meeting that might have some influence on
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flat cameras, the police department, all of that stuff, stick
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with it because it's important for them to understand that
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we are more than just a fraction of a fraction
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of a fraction.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. Well, I know
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I said that was my last question. But do you
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know where where can somebody watch the recording of the video.
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Is there a spot where they can go and check
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that out?
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My guest is I haven't done this personally, but I'm
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sure that they're on that They're connected to the City
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of Nina website somehow, so you can contact the city
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clerk and Nina and find out, or you can just
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google a city of Nina recordings and probably find it there.
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If I find out, I'll text.
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You the info.
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Wonderful looking forward to that. Thank you very much for
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joining us, Kate, and I'm sure we'll have you on again.
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This is not the last time we'll be dealing with this,
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I'm sure, so thank you for being here.
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Bye.
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All right, guys, plenty of you are text and we're
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gonna get all these texts in on the other side
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of the break, So everybody stay where you are. We're
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gonna keep the conversation rolling. You're listening to Outside the
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Box with Ben Komonos here on Whby. I saw one
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of my people watching on TikTok say something about small
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government Republicans, and I think we're gonna have to stop
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with this small government Republican thing. All they want, the
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only thing Republicans are small government about is they want
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all of their money to go to Elon Musk. They
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want you to know what you're doing with your with
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your gender of affirmation surgeries. They want to know where
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the Mexicians are coming from.
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They want to know.
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What you're talking about in your personal life. Republicans are
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fine with all of this mass surveillance. It's quite literally,
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we are reliving the two thousands again, and the only
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difference is we have all the answers to the bleep
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in tech test time. The Patriot Act was passed in
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the late two thousands, and while MAGA didn't exist, someone's
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asking nine two oh two eight one eleven fifty nine
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two oh two, eight one eleven fifty come on the
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show try and push back U Republicans. MAGA wasn't a
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thing when the Patriot Act passed, but the equivalent of MAGA.
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Republicans were the people saying, what's the big deal about
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the Patriot Act? As long as you're not committing any crimes,
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it doesn't matter. What matters about surveillance, it doesn't matter.
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Look at me, I'm big brained. And those same magas
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are the people saying, what can you believe the government
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spying on us through our emails and text messages? Yes
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we can, MAGA, we told you in the early two thousands,
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and you're pretending now like this is something that just happened.
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So how about we skip that fifteen year period where
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you are highlighted to not know what you're talking about,
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and we just jumped to the point where you realize
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that these flock cameras are going to be used in
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a negative capacity. I cannot stress enough. In Israel, they
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use it to determine who is going to be hamas
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before they even do anything, and then they go and
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arrest them. Now, some of you are listening to me
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say that and think, good, we gotta catch them terrorists, until,
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of course, the terrorists are labeled as the people that
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don't want to wear masks during a pandemic. So you
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tell me nine two oh two, eight, one eleven point fifty,
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learn the numbers, or stop messaging me. Please you tell
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me what the difference is, because once it's aimed at you,
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you all of a sudden will go hair on fire
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and blame President Gavin Newsom or whoever the hell it
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is for the government overreach. Meanwhile, you are the exact
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people who are championing this right now, and I promise
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you so. While I am frustrated about it, and I
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hate the fact that it is happening to any MAGA
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that has to complain about what it is that they
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are going to be dealing with with surveillance. After the fact,
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I will be mocking you to your face. I will
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not take your claims seriously at all, much like I
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do not take Ben's claims of election fraud seriously. You
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will actively be mocked if you try and complain about
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this once this gets instituted. Now I'm gonna run through
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my text messages here. Phil says, in a public meeting
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such as the flock meeting last night and Nina, which
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brought in approximately forty people, represents a fraction of a
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fraction of our city officials, and the room only holds
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sixty people, why would it even matter to hold these
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listening events. That's exactly my point. There was no amount
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of a pushback that was actually going to change these
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people's minds. And that's the frustrating part about all of this.
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Brian says, So they made the decision, you mean, against
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the public. I can't think of that ever happening before
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approved data centers, corporate building projects with tax credits, public
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building projects. As your guest points out, if you don't
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show up, they'll do what they want. And Brian, don't
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think that this data center conversation isn't absolutely tied to
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the flock cameras it's all tied together. We are slowly
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being shepherded into a hyper surveilled state. The exact crap
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people used to make fun of China for in the
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nineties is the stuff that a certain population MAGA is
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championing right now. And for the record, when Donald Trump
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gets obliterated in twenty six and eventually loses in twenty
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eight and the Democrat has control of this, something tells
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me MAGA will all of a sudden realize that government
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surveillance is bad and liberals will think the good guys
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have the control of the rains again, mark my words.
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That's where this is ultimately headed. So how about we
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just skipped to the part where we all jump on
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the bandwagon and admit I'm right. We got one person
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who was there, Carla. My favorite part of the meeting
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last night was when Chief Aaron Olsen said he didn't
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know if it was true that Appleton PD caught the
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Manasha PDE officer staking his ex stalking his ex by
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using flock cameras while at home and off duty, when
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it has been reported and in court records that it
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was Appleton. After the woman reported that she thought that
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that was happening Nina still shares their flock info with Manasha.
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Very interesting stuff there, justin saying, if there's a meeting
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in Grand Shooter Appleton, I may just have to go.
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But the only way I knew about this was your show.
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I'm not on social media, so I'm unaware of local events.
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And I'll be honest. It was a local activist group,
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Sister Jones, which is local to Appleton, which got it
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on my radar. Otherwise I wouldn't have been there either.
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But I'm gonna do my best to kind of provide
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you guys with that information as it as it's made
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available to me. But it's not like I have some
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kind of secret calendar or anything like that, because again,
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they'd prefer you just didn't show up, right. So it's
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so funny. I got a random TikToker saying that I
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have the capacity to block him just because he can't
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type simple numbers into his phone, and it's like it's
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somewhat distracting trying to do this show. But this guy, God,
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don't eat the crayons, Bud. And then we got a
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bunch of big government Republicans jumping into the conversation we
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are being recorded and it's becoming more commonplace than not
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being recorded at almost every home you go through a
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ring a ring blink system, et cetera, not only outside
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of homes, but inside of people's homes. This is a
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strange and interesting topic of being reported recorded because it
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makes me really think about all the places society is
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recorded exactly. It's something referred to as surveillance creep. Ronald
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Reagan didn't get nominated or elected do trickle down economics,
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and the entire middle class collapsed in on itself. Ronald
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Reagan enacted trickle down economics, nobody ruled it back for
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fifty years, and the middle class was slowly cannibalized, ultimately
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resulting in the shrinking and struggling affordability crisis that we
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have today. This stuff doesn't happen overnight. It happened slowly.
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I said.
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The irony of so many people going to that meeting
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to complain about being surveilled by cameras, only to go
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on social media and then complain about flock cameras, that's
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not lost on me. But the principle still holds that
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we need to take this stuff seriously. We got sixty seconds.
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I'm getting my first call. We got plenty of texts.
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Make a quick clo. You're an outside the box.
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Oh hey, benni's Carla.
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I'm just calling to make sure that the phone lines
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do in fact work. That's all.
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Thanks by Yeah, thank you, Carla. I appreciate that very much.
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It's almost like the people that can't figure out how
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to get on this show are too scared to call
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in and try and make a point because they realized
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they might be jumping into the deep end. Jimmy says,
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one hundred percent of crime is unacceptable. How's that for data?
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Great point, Jimmy, I take you very seriously as an individual.
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Tim says, is there a weather update? The sky looks angry.
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That's the understatement of the century. But yeah, it is
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getting ugly out there. Expect rain and storms for the
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foreseeable future. But I don't have anything specific right now.
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We're gonna go to break. I'm available on all the
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social media's. We're streaming live on the YT, the FB,
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and TikTok, and we'll we'll keep the conversation rolling on
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the other side here, We've got a couple more texts
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to get in, plenty more to talk about as well.
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We'll see where we go outside the box. All right,
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we're back ben Commonos whby political voices network Outside the
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depends on if you are just joining us. We dedicated
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the entire first hour talking about flock cameras, talking about
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a hearing that I personally attended in Nina, surrounding those
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flock cameras, And as Mark says, and I think this
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kind of sums it up.
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I think the chief's.
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Words, fraction of a fraction of a fraction is about
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as arrogant as Marie Antoinette saying let them eat cake.
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And I do tend to agree with you on that sentiment.
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Mark.
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You had the police chief saying that we were a
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fraction of a fraction.
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You had.
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The mayor of Nina saying that we were an echo
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chamber despite every political leaning being represented. The only people
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not questioning what's happening are the people that are scared
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to question Donald Trump ever everybody else. If you can
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acknowledge that just because Maga loses an election, you don't
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think the election was rigged, Thai surveillance the number of people,
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and it is very disappointing to see how many people
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are coming out of the woodwork to champion surveillance, because
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it goes to show you that people will vote for
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their own downfall because they're scared of minorities, and like,
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that's wild, It's just wild. And I realized I was,
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I was, you know, brought up, you know, in a
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more urban environment, and I had, you know, a more
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diverse cast of characters that I was surrounded by, and
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so maybe just my upbringing allowed for me to just
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not be.
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Wired that way.
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But as you approach forty and you see people voting
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to give away their freedoms, to gut the social safety
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nets that built America all because of Mexicans and black people,
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it's it's very difficult for me to understand. Like I'm
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not trying to portray Pittsburgh, like I grew up in Harlem,
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but where I own my duplex, you could be mid sentence,
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you could hear a loud bang from a rifle or something,
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and like, unless you could tell it was on your block,
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you almost don't even flinch. And I would never advocate
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for this kind of technology in Pittsburgh and we're sitting
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here in the Fox Valley, Like, what the hell are
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you people afraid of? Like, in all honesty, I'm not
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going to say nothing bad can ever happen, but like,
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what the hell are you guys so afraid of in
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your day to day life that you would be willing
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to be perpetually surveilled by AI? Like what about your
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life here is so scary to you? Because I am
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telling you right now, as Ben Franklin said, if you
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sacrifice your freedoms in the name of safety, you deserve neither.
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And for the record, I'm not leaning into the lies that, oh,
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the big blue cities have all this crime. The crime
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isn't even that bad in Pittsburgh. I'm telling you right now,
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I saw more crap happen because it's a larger population
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of people that does not happen here. I could walk
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down downtown Appleton at one o'clock in the morning and
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at no time would I be like, oh, boy, looks
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like I ended up on the wrong side of the tracks.
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That's not a thing that I am worried about. And
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I want to know what's going on in your head
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that you think that makes sense? Uh, Leanne says, thanks
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for keeping an eye out for all of us. It's
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tiring being told we are a percent of a percent
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until we won our taxes and votes. These flock cameras
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are just the beginning of nineteen eighty four or the
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movie Minority Report. I think you're exactly right, Leanne, and moreover, yet,
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you know what, three dozen people isn't a very large number,
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but you know what, it is a larger number than one,
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because that's how many people showed up in favor of flock.
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If it's a fraction of a fraction, then where was
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the fraction of the fraction that showed up in support
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of living in a perpetual valence state. Somebody explained to
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me why it is that it seems like a bunch
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of people that are super anti being surveiled were able
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to find some time. It wasn't unemployed people. And the
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best part is nothing against people who are of retirement
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age or are retired that show up to this kind
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of stuff. But I'm here to tell you right now,
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there were parents, there were workers. I felt like I
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was middle of the pack in terms of age, maybe
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a little on the younger side, but not by much.
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A lot of people in their thirties and forties, a
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lot of new moms, a lot of old moms or
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dads for that matter, but I specifically remember moms going
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up to speak, well educated, well versed people showing up
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with statistics and highlighting the exact ways in which these
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companies lie to us and exploit us. And for some reason,
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some of you are willing to just fall in line.
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Some of us were born to follow orders, some of
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us were born to question them. I'll let you guys
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guess which one I am. I received a text that
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just okay, that's a different one there, these says Fox
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News foments the fear of crime, immigrants, Iran nuclear program,
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et cetera. Keeps the sheep in line just like a
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sheep dog.
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Yeah.
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Maybe, I mean that probably has something to do with it.
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I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
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It's just it's very surreal, and it's extra surreal to
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me just bringing a different lived experience and then coming
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here and experiencing how different it is. And I mean,
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I realize, uh, you know, one or two of the
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people in here. Notwithstanding that the people who are telling
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me that surveillance is good. Are perpetual contrarians, uh, living
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in an ever just an ever sustaining state of just
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taking the opposite stance of whatever I say. And I
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recognize that comes with the territory, But I mean the
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people who are normally level headed who advocate for this
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kind of stuff, I just don't get it, not being
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able to see it, and like it wouldn't even hurt
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as much if we didn't already go through this with
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the Patriot Act, but we did.
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It's wild. It's just wild to me. Paul says.
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I don't think we need surveillance, But I also don't
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think you can feel completely safe on college abb after
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midnight anymore.
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You can.
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Not not one hundred percent safe. But I also don't
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feel one hundred percent safe doing media, Like I'm like, man,
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I saw what happened to Charlie Kirk. That sure is scary,
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but like I'm gonna keep doing media, and I don't
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expect there to be a security team around me all
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the time, Like event there is an inherent risk to
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all of life, Yes, but walk through the Hill District
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in Pittsburgh and then talk to me about walking through
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downtown Appleton after one o'clock in the morning. I've gotten
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stopped walking in neighborhoods. You want to talk about privilege.
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I got stopped walking in neighborhoods in Pittsburgh where the
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police officers pulled over and they were like, you definitely
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don't belong in this neighborhood. But I had friends in
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that neighborhood because I don't let people tell me who
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I'm supposed to hang out with and who I'm not
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supposed to hang out with. And there's good people in
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all places. And the idea that anybody's scared walking down
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West College A just says to me that you haven't
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lived anywhere else. No offense to you guys, of course,
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but that's kind of the way I feel about that.
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Uh uh.
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John out in Oshkost says, we have been surveyed as
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long as there's been police on patrols in our cities
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to keep everybody safe. Cameras is just another tool to
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aid in the protection of our community. This is all
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done in public, right, John. Here's the problem when the
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company who's being included has partnered with Pallenteer in Israel.
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And they use these.
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Flock cameras in order to prepare actually monitor the people
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who live in Gaza and declare them to be terrorists,
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not because of something they've done, but because of the
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data they have collected on these people. I do not
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want that in America. That is deep state police BS.
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And I was of the impression in John. I don't
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know what way you lean far be it for me
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to presume, but I was always told right wingers, libertarians
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and Republicans hated big government. But it seems as though
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you want big governments in a perpetual state of monitoring
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you all the time. We know Pallenteer is being included.
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And by the way, there was a Palenteer data breach
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not that long ago. I read someone for me. I
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didn't get a chance to read about it, but that
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sure is an interesting development. But when you take all
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of these elements into account, I do not want these
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cameras going up. I don't care. I like, here's the deal.
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You're like, oh, oh, what about ring cameras. I never
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bought a ring camera? Oh what about Alexa? I never
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bought Alexa. Yes I have a smartphone. Yes I have
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social media, specifically because I work in media and did
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not use it prior to that, and I do not
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want the government. The government's cutting our social programs. It's
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taking our Medicare, it's taking our Medicaid. It's telling me
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that I'm not going to have access to social Security.
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But you bet your ass they want to be involved
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in my life when they want to spy on me
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NonStop to make sure I'm not saying anything negative about
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everybody's favorite Orange Dad president or sleepy Joe. I will
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not live in a version of America like that. And
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if I remember correctly, a lot of boomers used to
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mock China for polling this kind of crap, and now
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it seems as though you want to copy them. But
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do it better because we're going catch Antifa.
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No they're not.
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They're going to catch all of us. And by the
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time you realie that, it's going to.
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Be too late.
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And I have to say, I'm just gonna say it here, Boomers,
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I love you. But I also notice that a lot
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of the people that are pro adding all of these
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cameras everywhere are closer to the back nine than they
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are in the front nine. I do not want to
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live the next forty five years of my life in
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constant surveillance by our government making sure that I do
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not step out of line. And I would think most
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of us can agree with that sentiment, at least people
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with a basic capacity for common sense. Brian says, it
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does not bother them slash us until it happens to them,
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slash us. But add it together, ring door exactly, I'm
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gonna read this ring doorbells, Alexa, traffic cameras, your phone,
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your smart appliances, your cars, using the credit card GPS.
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In general, when can you ever drop out of you?
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And Brian now take the surveillance element and apply it
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to the economy. Tax cuts for the rich, make stock
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buybacks illegal, deregulate the banks, make it so that you
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can't declare bankruptcy to get out of student loan debt.
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Make it so that healthcare companies are able to operate
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for profit. One of those things happening does not create
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an economic crisis. All of those things, stacking on top
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of each other, results in an affordability crisis that neither
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Democrats nor Republicans have any interest in actually addressing in
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a meaningful way, because that requires them to stand up
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to the same billionaires that fund their campaigns. And now
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we have people who are advocating for the people, pointing
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out that our government will not stand up for us
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to be in a constant state of surveillance, and we're
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supposed to pretend like that's a normal line of thinking.
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I'm sorry, but Waka walka Maga and Blue Maga, you
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don't know what you're talking about. Justin says it's like
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I said in my hearing opinion, which I did send
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to the mayor full text, the Party of Small Government
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bats and eye when their own rights erode inch by inch,
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they don't tread on me. Snake is slowly but surely
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eating its own tail. No, you're exactly right, and like
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even the one pro and like I'll tell the story.
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One woman stood up and spoke in favor of flock cameras.
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And she was older, because it's the older people who
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want to instill this stuff and then not be here
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anymore and leave us to deal with the hyper surveilled state.
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And the only reason she was pro fluck is she
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told a story about her mom with Alzheimer's or dementia
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or whatever it was, and how she got lost and
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she ultimately ended up getting spotted by a camera or something.
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Had she not specifically been impacted by flock. I promise
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you she wouldn't have in there saying anything about it,
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because that's the way people are wired, at least on
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the right. The left, I find typically has a capacity
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for empathy anti legalizing the devil's lettuce, until, of course
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it impacts somebody in your family in a positive way.
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Then of course you realize that it's a good idea.
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I just don't get it. Tom brings up a great point.
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If you're unhappy living in the US, just move to
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a place where ideas like yours are just like ideas
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00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.679
like yours. Exactly. So, if Tom's pro fluck, move to
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00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:40.559
communist China where they monitor you twenty four to seven,
963
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.960
go do that. I think that's a great suggestion. Tom
964
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.760
should head over to China and become hyper surveilled. I
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00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.559
live in America, the Land of the Free and the
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00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:56.039
Home of the Brave, with amendments, specifically the Fourth Amendment
967
00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.599
that protects me against illegal search. Unfortunately, I'm going to
968
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.679
be in a perpetual state of being searched. If these
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00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:07.559
flock cameras go up, I will use every fiber of
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00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.840
my being to tear down these surveillance cameras metaphorically, of course,
971
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.519
anybody trying to put these up, I will make sure
972
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:19.719
that the anti flock community knows what's going on. And
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00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.119
there's a lot more of us as a fraction of
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00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.519
a fraction of a fraction than there are of the
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00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:29.599
pro big Daddy government catching damn Mexicans with these flock cameras.
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Move to China, Tom, good luck to you. We're gonna
977
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.599
go to break and when we come back, we're changing gears.
978
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.719
I want to jump into election rigging because I didn't
979
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.760
get a chance to finish that yesterday. That should call
980
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.239
me down a little bit. I'm sure Ron Johnson went
981
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.519
on News Nation yesterday or two days ago, excuse me
982
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:48.800
to talk about how the.
983
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.159
Elections were stolen and Walker walk out, don't question anything.
984
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:54.800
Turns out though, when he's being secretly recorded, he has
985
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.280
an entirely different opinion. And why don't we listen to
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00:55:57.280 --> 00:55:59.880
both of those opinions On the other side of the break,
987
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.960
you're listening outside the box here on whby all right,
988
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.480
we're back outside the box. Ben Kameno's w hbhy as
989
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:10.559
the skies have cracked open outside the Myron Construction studio.
990
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:16.440
Please do stay safe out there. We're expecting storms the
991
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.239
rest of the day, maybe for the rest of our lives,
992
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.920
potentially based on the.
993
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:22.800
The forecast here now.
994
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.840
In all seriousness, it's it's looking ugly out there, and
995
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.360
depending on where you live, I'm sure you've got different
996
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:29.559
things happening outside you.
997
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:30.599
But I'm watching.
998
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:33.239
The the radar up on the TV in front of
999
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.199
me right now, and it looks as though we have
1000
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.440
the reddest part of the storm passing over us as
1001
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:40.440
we speak, but there's quite a bit of green and
1002
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.880
yellow behind that, so please do be uh be careful
1003
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.719
about that. So in any event, I want to switch
1004
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:55.519
gears here because I have been dealing h I've been
1005
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.679
hammering this flock event. For the record, I'm going to
1006
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.280
be sending an email to the Nina Police Chief as
1007
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.000
I get off the air, inviting him to come on
1008
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:03.760
the program, and I may reach out to the Nina
1009
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:06.840
Mayor as well see if he's interested in coming on
1010
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.679
the program as well. But they're gonna have some pretty
1011
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.760
serious questions that they're going to have to answer because
1012
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:14.960
I do not believe that the appropriate level of respect
1013
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.960
was shown to the people who had completely valid concerns
1014
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:19.920
and it seems like I got a bunch of new
1015
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.280
Texters for the first time today that are all coming
1016
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.239
out of the woodwork to support Flock. I'm sure that's
1017
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.079
a coincidence. So we are This won't be this last
1018
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:32.719
time we have this conversation, and this will be always
1019
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:36.000
be a show for individual freedoms on this program and
1020
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.920
a government that works for its people, not against its people. Now,
1021
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:42.480
and I picked this shirt for a reason for somebody
1022
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.519
who said that the shirt is appropriate today, I'm dressed
1023
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:47.679
like Captain America. There's a reason why I'm wearing this
1024
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.039
shirt today. This show is American af From what I understand,
1025
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.920
the kids tell me that stands for and fun. So
1026
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.480
I think that's the best way to describe this show. Now,
1027
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:03.039
I want to switch gears here into the conversation about
1028
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.840
election rigging, and caller Ben decided to call in the
1029
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.320
first hour and make it about election rigging. Then I
1030
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.000
really want to state this unequivocally. I am not against
1031
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.119
the idea that an election can be stolen. If you
1032
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:20.519
have evidence that an election has been stolen, absolutely, let's
1033
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.320
look into this. People are corrupt. I'd argue there's a
1034
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:26.519
lot of systems in place to prevent that fraud, and
1035
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:28.559
that we have been a country for two hundred and
1036
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:31.000
fifty years and this really hasn't been an issue until
1037
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:35.119
some of our Orange Dad presidents decided to complain about it.
1038
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.159
And a few of us really don't have a capacity
1039
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:43.239
to question anything coming out of that man's mouth. Um,
1040
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:48.239
it's when there is not a single question about the
1041
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:52.840
twenty twenty four election, only for these people to come
1042
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.920
out of the woodwork and question the twenty twenty sixth
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00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:05.679
election because of republic lost in California. That's where I
1044
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.199
have no respect for it. The twenty twenty election was
1045
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.719
rigged because Trump lost, twenty four was fine, and then
1046
00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:16.119
twenty six was rigged again. I do not respect you.
1047
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:18.920
You're not just asking questions. You're a baby and a
1048
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:23.920
sore loser if you cannot accept the results of the
1049
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:28.119
election in California. The California election that was so rigged
1050
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.320
that apparently Steve Hilton was still able to get a
1051
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:36.559
Republican ticket for the governor's race, but of course Spencer
1052
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:39.000
Pratt wasn't able to win in LA. And I'm so
1053
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.280
thankful that Steve Hilton won, so that when he loses
1054
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.840
by more than twenty points. Maga can look incredibly dumb
1055
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:48.039
for having pitched a fit about this to begin with
1056
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:56.760
our esteemed Senator Ron Moscow Johnson, Ron the swamp Johnson, Ron,
1057
00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:00.639
I'm only going to serve two terms, Johnson to News
1058
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:04.760
Nation two days ago, to stoke these flames for the
1059
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.920
people that don't have a capacity to think for themselves.
1060
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:10.840
And so of course I'm going to have to undress
1061
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:14.320
him now because i just have a problem. I have
1062
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:18.039
a clip that's available from social media.
1063
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:19.800
It's going to.
1064
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:24.119
Start the first fifty five to fifty seven seconds is
1065
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.679
going to be him on News Nation, and then you're
1066
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:29.960
gonna notice a terrible drop off in the audio quality.
1067
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.000
But I'm fairly certain I've listened to it to a
1068
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.159
cup for a couple times now, I'm fairly certain that
1069
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:39.000
you'll still be able to hear it. And he was
1070
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:44.440
being secretly recorded while talking about the giant quote fingers
1071
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:49.159
election fraud in twenty twenty. And we're gonna see how
1072
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.880
he talks about election fraud for the camera when he
1073
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.920
knows he's performing, versus when he's just being a human being.
1074
01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.880
And let's see what you guys pick up on. Oh wait,
1075
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:01.000
you probably already know where this is going.
1076
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:05.639
There's never been evidence presented in any of these cases.
1077
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.039
Decide with the president when he speaks about this topic,
1078
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:10.760
or would you rather that he skipping entirely.
1079
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:13.880
I mean, there was so much evidence of irregularities in
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01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:16.320
the twenty twenty election, but all you have to do
1081
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:18.920
is say there's no evidence, there's no proof. There's all
1082
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.480
there are all kinds of irregulators that occur. I mean
1083
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:24.800
the fact that California, how many days after the election
1084
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:26.360
still resort.
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01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:28.880
But my point is there's never been anything proven on
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01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.599
scale that would affect an election, whether it be in
1087
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:34.400
a national level or a big statewide like this. I
1088
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.840
understand there's a regularities there always are, but scale.
1089
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.480
That would impact I've never seen which is evidence. Yeah,
1090
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:43.559
I mean people that do things covered up. But again,
1091
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.239
I'm getting very tired of this. There is no evidence,
1092
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:50.000
there's no proof. There's tons of evidence, there's tons of irregularities.
1093
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.280
Just there's so much evidence, Senator, why not just present it.
1094
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.840
There's been multiple chances to do so, courts of law
1095
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:55.360
and otherwise.
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01:01:56.159 --> 01:02:01.079
People do and it's ignored. You don't Scoons, Fifty one
1097
01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:07.519
thousand voters didn't vote for him candid. There's going obviously
1098
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:16.920
skewed about resent Okay persons Wiscotts, so listen sellectively. Republicans
1099
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.639
got one point six sixty one million votes.
1100
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:23.840
One thousand more true good friend up lost by twenty thousand.
1101
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.719
Trunk got all the calder.
1102
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.639
Recumpanies ordered for Trump the way they ordered for the semi.
1103
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.159
Campass seventy would have one.
1104
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:30.960
He didn't.
1105
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:34.239
He didn't take fifty one thousand other pubs in scott.
1106
01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:34.559
That's right now.
1107
01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.320
So that was a bit touch and go. Allow me
1108
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.679
to give you the spark Notes version of what was
1109
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.719
just said right there. He stated that there were one
1110
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:47.000
points in twenty twenty in Wisconsin, one point six six
1111
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.079
one million votes went for Republicans across the board in
1112
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.719
the state legislature. Uh, you know, different races, senators, races,
1113
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.320
so on and so forth. Trump got fifty thousand less
1114
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:03.119
votes than that. He lost by twenty thousand. The reason
1115
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.119
he lost is because fifty thousand people who identified as
1116
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.719
Republicans who took the time to show up and vote,
1117
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.400
ultimately decided that he was a big enough piece of
1118
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:13.880
trash to not go and vote for him in twenty twenty.
1119
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.920
But when Ron Johnson is on a regular camera, he's
1120
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.719
going to pretend that there are irregularities. But when he
1121
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:23.920
is not on camera, that's when he decides that he's
1122
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.760
actually going to try and behave like a human being. Again,
1123
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:31.719
this is the problem with politics in general. You know what,
1124
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:34.840
We should instill flock cameras around all politicians so that
1125
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.599
they're constantly surveilled, so that we can catch them when
1126
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.920
they're obviously saying the wrong thing. I'm pro big government,
1127
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.079
look at me in my big brain. But this is
1128
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.199
why we are still fighting about twenty twenty in twenty
1129
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:52.039
twenty six. And then Republicans want to say, why are
1130
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:56.480
people still bringing up the twenty twenty election? Why can't
1131
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:58.880
they just let it go? Because they won't shut the
1132
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.199
hell up about it is the answer to that question.
1133
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:05.519
Until maga elected officials can say that the election wasn't rigged,
1134
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:10.679
we cannot take you seriously as individuals. As someone that
1135
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.599
knows all the ways to spent two and a half
1136
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:17.559
years highlighting the ways in which the Democratic Party has
1137
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:24.760
failed us. Donald Trump lost in twenty twenty, Spencer Pratt
1138
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.000
lost last Tuesday, and it's not because of rigging. It's
1139
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:35.679
because The MAGA agenda is objectively trash. Guys, no one
1140
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:39.639
likes it other than the diest of die hard magas.
1141
01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:46.320
This is the reality, and if you've got the evidence,
1142
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:53.400
prove it. But you can't so it didn't happen. You're
1143
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:57.639
just parroting something because you're embarrassed. Your orange dad president
1144
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.559
lost to a guy that wasn't sure what year it was.
1145
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:05.440
And I get it. That is embarrassing, but it doesn't
1146
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.760
change reality, and it most certainly isn't going to force
1147
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:15.199
me to pretend that I live in a different reality.
1148
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:19.880
And Jimmy's trying to catch me. Jimmy, I don't know
1149
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:21.480
where you are, but I almost want to use a
1150
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:24.159
co host because you are just a mountain of good content.
1151
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:28.239
Play Hillary's comments from twenty sixteen stolen election might hold
1152
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:32.360
more authenticity When Mandela Barnes comes on my show, do
1153
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:34.760
you know what I'm going to ask him, Jimmy, I'm
1154
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:37.000
gonna ask him if he's going to be willing to
1155
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:40.039
accept the results of the election since he accused Donald
1156
01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.079
Trump and Russia of stealing the election in twenty sixteen
1157
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.400
and very rarely ever actually backs off of that claim.
1158
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.719
Because I'm not a hack unlike you. Thank you for listening.
1159
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.199
So when you see the way that Ron Johnson is
1160
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.880
willing to talk, he's gonna say yeah. One point sixty
1161
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.280
sixty one million Republicans showed up voted in twenty twenty.
1162
01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:03.840
Fifty thousand of them showed up and voted but didn't
1163
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.480
vote for Donald Trump. That's how he ended up losing.
1164
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:09.880
That should probably put everything moscow. Johnson has to say, right,
1165
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.440
let's put it all to bed. Nine two oh two
1166
01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:17.280
eight one eleven fifty nine two oh two eight one
1167
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:21.800
eleven fifty. Prove me wrong. I need one of those signs.
1168
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:29.079
Prove me wrong. Oh my god, Jimmy, I'm about ready
1169
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.320
to mute you for the day. Buddy who was crying
1170
01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:36.559
about Elon Musk's money but is awful quiet about Zuckerberg's money? Hey, uh,
1171
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:41.440
class other than Bruce Wayne, has anybody heard me say
1172
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:43.599
something positive about a billionaire?
1173
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:44.039
Ever?
1174
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.920
Nine to two oh two eight one eleven fifty is
1175
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:53.480
all of my anti billionaire sentiment saved exclusively for Elon Musk?
1176
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:57.599
Where did big brain Jimmy come from? Nine two oh
1177
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:02.239
two eight one eleven fifty tim asking me remind me,
1178
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.760
wasn't Johnson part of the fake Elector scandal in twenty twenty.
1179
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:08.760
I know he likes to try and parse his words here,
1180
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:10.159
but that's just me.
1181
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:12.079
Um.
1182
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.840
Let's see here. This one's from Ralph Ben still a
1183
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.440
Trump supporter, not as much as previously, and not red Maga.
1184
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.360
If you're still a Trump supporter, I hate to break
1185
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.079
it to your Ralph, but your MAGA will likely never
1186
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:29.239
vote Democrat. I'm a conservative quasi libertarian. Okay, there we go,
1187
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:31.199
there we go. I'm with you there on the end
1188
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:33.679
of it, at least one hundred percent, in agreement with
1189
01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:38.320
you against all forms of valans nh motto. I'm not
1190
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:42.760
sure what that means. Live free or die a Philly
1191
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.920
boy in the Fox Cities. Right on, Ralph, I don't
1192
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:50.280
know how is a libertarian you can really support Donald Trump.
1193
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:51.920
I'll be real with you. I get why you can't
1194
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:54.639
support the Democrats. And by the way, to all the
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libertarians listening, I'm gonna have a libertarian candidate for the
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sixth district of what Consin on my show a week
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from today at nine thirty. More on that later, but
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I think she has an interesting platform that you guys
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will be interested in hearing from.
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But I'm just gonna be real with you.
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If you're looking at what Donald Trump has done for
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the last eighteen months and you can't objectively look at
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this and say, oh, no, we're trending in the wrong
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direction in every way except for number of Mexicans, and
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not to say that there's a right direction for that
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I'm saying in the eyes of some people, I just
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it just says to me that you're not looking at
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Trump critically. And if you can't look at him critically,
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then that means you're part of the cult. It's no
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different than the people saying that Joe Biden was sharper
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than ever. I had one caller when Joe Biden was
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in office who, when I was saying that we needed
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a primary in the Democratic Party, was blocking the primary.
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He calls my show and says, if you have Tom Brady,
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you don't go and look for a new quarterback on
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your bench, meaning to me that he either does doesn't
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know who Tom Brady is, or is clearly in a
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blue Maga cult. If you can't acknowledge that economically, we
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are worse in every metric than we were during the
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Biden administration, and Biden had to get us out of
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a pandemic. Then I just you're not looking at this objectively.
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I'll be real, but that's at least my perspective on
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the matter. What's this Tom says on the YouTube chat,
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and I apologize YouTube. I'm dealing with some issues here
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on this as well. I don't think the election is rigged,
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but I think better transparency is how the new digital
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and scan trines might ease skepticism. So I feel that
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Tom and I will never make any excuses for why
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Chicago or California acts the way that they act in
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terms of how long it takes them to count votes,
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like there absolutely needs to be some new changes made there.
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But the only reason any skepticism exists is because Donald
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Trump's a whiny little baby. And I want to use
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a different b word, but I have a feeling both
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the FCS and the TikTok algorithm don't want me to
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use it. But if Donald Trump were just a grown
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ass man, there wouldn't be any questions about election integrity,
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but unfortunately, he's a whiny little baby. Please insert the
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word that I want to say in that uh uh
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in that sentence there, But that's just me, of course, uh.
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Nine two oh two eight one eleven fifty. Here's what
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we're gonna do. We're gonna go to break. There's a
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couple of them, Brian, what are you saying here? I'm
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rolling on the floor laughing. Nice, that's all I need.
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I hope that's literal. I hope you're literally doing that,
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all right? Nine two oh two eight one eleven fifty
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nine two oh two eight one eleven fifty.
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We'll put a bow on this conversation.
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On the other side, you're listening outside the box here
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on whby, all right, we're back outside the box, Ben
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Komenos whby.
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Uh.
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Friendly reminder guys, seeing as I am the most American
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person you guys have ever heard on the radio, I
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will be taking part in the Flag Day Parade on
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Saturday with our partners Pierce Manufacturing. We're gonna be handing
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out flags to everybody is The parade kicks off on Saturday,
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so hopefully you guys can stop by. Just so you know,
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there are flock cameras set up around Appleton, so please
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be on your best behavior because Big Daddy Government and
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Jimmy and a handful of the magas that are super
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pro being surveiled all the time. M won it that
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way because they're nervous that you might do crimes someday,
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so'd rather you just be in a perpetual state of surveillance.
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I will be there handing out flags though, being American
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AF which stands.
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For and fun.
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So hopefully you can stop by and say hello. Although
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I might be driving the vehicle, but hopefully I can
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find somebody else to drive the vehicle because I always
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like interacting with you guys shorter route as well, So
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if you show up late, you're gonna miss it, and
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that would just be devastating. At least you're gonna miss
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the wh why vehicle. I'm sure there's other things that
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matter after that, not from my perspective, of course, So
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hopefully you can take part in the program there, all right.
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And but so with that, I want to kind of
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put a bow on the conversation. And I got a
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call from Brian out in Fremont during the break. He said,
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the show's clicking on. All cylinders were hitting the fake
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election fraud conspiracies were hitting the flock cameras. I see
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a lot of like minded people kind of coalescing around this,
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and like that's just it, Like it's a matter of
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eliminating the hypocrisy surrounding these conversations, like the number of
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people who identify as libertarian being pro flock cameras doesn't
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make any gd sense. It doesn't make any flipping sense
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that somebody can justify that in their head. It's me honestly,
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I'm coming from a state the Democrat governor of Pennsylvania
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is essentially kneecapping public schools, And to me, that's just
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like a very anti democratic democratic mindset. Um, it's a
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matter of consistency in these matters. And if you are
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not willing to have the government invest in social programs,
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the same social programs with a proven track record of
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benefiting the American population, then I sure as hell better
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not see you advocating for the government to be engaged
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in the perpetual surveillance state of the American population, like
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pick and choose, and like the idea that like, I'm
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against big government when they do all the good stuff,
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but I do want them to be in a perpetual
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state of monitoring us to catch bin laden. You know,
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like there eventually comes a time when it's just like,
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what actually do you believe. How exactly do you justifies
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these justify the things that you think, because I think
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looking inward on these matters is the best way to
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grow and develop. As I've stated several times over, I
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was an early twenty something advocating for trickle down economics
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because it made sense on paper, and then new information
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made itself available to me and I was like, oh, well,
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this is a dumb economic system, and then I changed
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my mind, and we all need to be willing to
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do that. But it really feels like when it comes
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to politics. South Park actually has a bit about this,
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where like being anti immigrant, they do it in terms
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of Randy marsh is trying to start a house flipping company,
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and he would always go into every house. He's like,
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what we're gonna do is we're gonna tear down this
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load bearing pillar. That's always where he would start. And
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then you realize that the load bearing pillar was a
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metaphor for anti immigrant sentiment. And he's engaged in a
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conversation with one guy who's mad that Alexa is taking
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all the jobs of blue collar workers. I'm sure you
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can figure out the metaphor there, and they talk about
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tearing down the load bearing pillar, and he's like, I
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can't because it's central to my identity and I can't
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stress enough. We've got to break free from that kind
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of thinking, because I am watching us willfully march into
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a surveillance state that is going to persist. And once
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we take the toothpaste out of the tube, you cannot
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put it back in. They tell you, oh, it can
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only do still frame images, and then you find out
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they're working on fifteen second surveillance. Oh, don't worry, it's
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just license plates. And then you realize that there's plenty
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of technology out there, and it's already being utilized in
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the Middle East to track facial recognition. I'm old enough
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to remember when Netflix and Hulu, when Amazon showed up
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and said, look at all of us, we're here to
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make streaming movies and TV more affordable. Go ahead and
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cut the cord and become a streaming service person. And
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then that's what we all did. Anybody under seventy has
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cut the cord at this point, and you know what,
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it's basically as expensive as cable at this point. And
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now they've added ads, and now they've taken away features
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that used to be available and told you you have
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to pay more in order to access these features that
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were once free because once it became ubiquitous, once they
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were able to undercharge everybody for the services that they
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offer corner the market, much like Amazon. Once they have everybody,
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that's when the crap starts. That's when they start treating
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you like crap. Not caring about these things. Right now,
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the only agenda is get the flock cameras up, because we.
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Go to catch them Mexicans, but then it's going to
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be used in all of these negative ways that I
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think a lot of you are remaining willfully ignorant too.
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We need to wake up to what's taking place here.
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We have lived.
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As Kate Hancock Cook, who was on the program at
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nine point thirty, will be available on the app later.
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As she mentioned during the program, crime has been declining
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steadily for forty years. We did not need flock cameras
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to make that happen. So instead of rushing, just like
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the big deck companies are trying to do with data centers,
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which I think most of us can universally push back against, unless,
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of course, Donald Trump tells us he likes them, in
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which case we're going to have another mountain, we need
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to climb again.
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I'm sure.
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It's the same principle, Cassidy says. I believe it was
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Joseph Goebels. It was the first to say, if you're
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not doing anything wrong. I'm assuming the rest of that
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sentence is, you don't.
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Need to worry.
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He said it, we said it during the Patriot Act,
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and we're hearing it now again. Do not let me
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be the voice yelling into the abyss. I am going
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to use my platform to keep you posted and let
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you know the next time one of these meetings is
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going on, and I hope that there's a larger percentage
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of people the next time than there were this time,
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because apparently thirty six of us isn't enough. So next
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time we're gonna show up with a thousand, and let's
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see how that ends up working.
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I got to call it a show here today.
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I appreciate everybody listening and listening to me rant for
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the last two hours. I had an emotional day yesterday,
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and I'm thankful that I have a platform that I am.
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Able to do this.
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I have to get out of here. I will talk
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to you guys tomorrow. Haley's up next. Follow me on
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the socials outside the box.