Finding Neverland

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this is on screen, off screen show.
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We like to talk about the media we consume, how it affects us, and how we are affect it.
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Um, this week it is just Lauren, the greatest of All time and me, myself, and I, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and get us started with my first topic.
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Yeah, I'm all together today.
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It's, it's just, it's like all, all, all kind of like fitting in there right now.
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So, um, I'm gonna get started.
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Uh, my first topic is code three.
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Have you ever heard of this?
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No, I have not.
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Okay.
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It just barely came out.
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Brand new Netflix movie.
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Um, starring Rain Wilson, the guy who plays Dwight in the office.
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Yeah.
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Um, I had been seeing no, like media about this.
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No promotional, no marketing, nothing.
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But I did see a couple of clips where he was talking about how it changed the way he viewed first responders.
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And I was like, I'm a sucker for a good first responder show.
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I even like some crappy ones.
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So I was just really excited I was finally able to watch it.
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And, uh, so Dwight Stars, um, as a long-term paramedic, he's been there for like 20 years.
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Been there a long time.
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And he has a trainee with him that day and his co paramedic.
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Um, and the point of this movie is to talk about how hard it is to be a paramedic and how it leaves such a lasting impact and like the life of a paramedic.
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And you never know what call you're gonna get or what is gonna happen.
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So it actually starts with the first trainee.
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But the first trainee is just to show how fast people wash out.
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So like he and this trainee get a call at this house and they go in and they see somebody who's overdosed on the ground.
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So they're assessing the situation, they're trying to dig, figure out what's go, if she's okay or whatever.
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And some lady walks in with a shotgun and starts shooting.
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So he, Dwight runs out of the building.
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The trainee kind of just like freezes for a second or whatever comes out and Dwight starts berating him and is like, when they have a gun, you run away.
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You don't wait for them to shoot you.
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But it's a horror movie, so they had to go investigate.
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Just kidding.
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Yeah.
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Um, so he just like go, like the trainee goes off on this rant about how like, people who do this job are insane that he can't do it.
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That's absolutely bonkers.
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He's not gonna risk his life to get shot.
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He wanted to go help people and he leaves.
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And then so that, that's just like the intro.
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So then we get into the meat of the show where it's talking about how like paramedics on average last two to five years, um, those who last longer.
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Very emotionally scarred.
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Um, they're paid less than nurses and teachers.
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Um, they see way more than doctors.
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They're disrespected.
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Like there's a scene where he goes in to a, um, muffin shop and they, the muffin shop offers a discount to heroes, you know, uh, fire department and police.
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And he's like, gimme my discount.
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I'm a hero.
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I'm a paramedic.
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And he's like, and the, the girl is like, sorry, fire department, police department only.
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And so like, there are scenes where he turns to the camera and like breaks the fourth wall and talks to the audience and he's like, you know, the absolute disrespect that paramedics get is ridiculous.
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They get it from the people, they get it from.
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Police department, they don't take paramedics seriously.
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Doctors just like reminding the paramedics that they're not doctors.
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Um, all, all of those kinds of things.
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Um, so it, it kind of builds and builds and talks and it leads to Dwight wanting to quit, right?
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He's like, I'm sick of this job.
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I've been in it so long, it's taken over my life and I can't handle it anymore.
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He deals with panic attacks caused by it, like his stress is through the roof, all those kinds of things.
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Um, there are times where, well, like 90% of this movie is very good, and you go, yeah, I can see that.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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And there are times where I feel like it's egregiously disrespectful to the other departments.
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Like, just because paramedics are disrespected or not taken as seriously does not mean that all cops are dicks.
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And that was a big point in this movie, is that all cops are dicks, uh, like they're responding to a patient that they already know ahead of time based on the address, who it is, that they're having a psychotic break.
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They talk about that.
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Um, because he doesn't have insurance.
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The state only covers 20 pills a month, but there's 28 to 31 days a month.
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So towards the end of the month, these meds are wearing off X, Y, Z, whatever.
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And the trainee in the back is like, shouldn't we call the cops?
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And the response is, he's a 6, 8, 8 black men, black man going through a psychotic episodes.
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Would you want the cops there?
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And like me, I, I appreciate cops.
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Uh, I know that's not a common thing, but like, if you tell the cops that you're going to be there and what is going on, then that's not gonna create an issue later.
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And then they go there, they, um, interact with him, they sell him on his psychotic episode, and they're taking him out to the, um.
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Ambulance telling him that it's a helicopter when the cops show up and the Cubs not knowing what's going on, get reactive, which I think is another thing that's a little overblown, and they make the situation so much worse and there's this big moment where they're like, the cops are gonna shoot the guy.
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And it's it.
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It really felt to me like they added that scene just to be like, yeah, cops suck.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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'cause it's, I feel like media goes a little too far into like, fearmongering things.
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Yeah.
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especially when there's something that has happened in real life and then they capitalize on it
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Yeah.
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and then be like, this is what always happens, which isn't true.
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Um, like it's, feel like media says that they're like spreading awareness by doing that, but I feel a lot of the times them spreading awareness is really fearmongering.
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Yeah.
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and so that's, that's too bad.
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Yeah.
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Um, so there is a little bit of that.
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I do wanna emphasize that it is very little, like you could just skip that scene.
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You wouldn't miss out on anything and you would go on and actually the rest of the movie is pretty good.
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Like, there are some movies that I feel like it's a message or it's fearmongering, it's not really a story.
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This one is more based on a real paramedics experience.
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Um, so it feels like maybe they were just like, oh, we're gonna add this so that we can get the bigger paycheck from.
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You know, the publisher or whatever.
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But our main thing is these other things, and it does show those other things really well.
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Um, like same with the doctors.
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They're like, I, I love how at the, like for three quarters of the movie, how they show that the doctors disrespect the paramedics and call them not doctors.
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Like, Hey, you're not a doctor.
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You don't diagnose'em.
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I diagnose'em.
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That's an actual line from it.
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And like, I have seen that like that's a thing and it's gross because all the paramedic is saying, these are the symptoms.
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This is what I think it might be.
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Here's your patient.
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But the doctor goes, I, you know, rightfully so.
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He's running a, a, a, an er, right?
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He is, his stress is through the roof.
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He has a ton of things, right?
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Like.
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Yeah.
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Both can be true, but they basically are like paramedics, underappreciated, disrespected by everybody.
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Doctors are dicks sometimes cops are assholes all the time, And.
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Yeah,
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that's a part I didn't like.
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it's like interesting because, um, my dad, he is a judge and a pharmacist and so like, deals a lot with like teenage teenagers doing drugs and stuff.
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And so, but then his pharmacy like side of it is able to like, kick in and be like, okay, well you need to go to right rehabilitation and like, this is what I'm sentencing so that you'll get better and stuff.
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And it's like, I know it's not feasible for everybody to have cop experience, uh, some paramedic experience, doctor experience, um, but like.
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It would be so helpful if people did, because then everybody could realize what everybody's dealing with.
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Or if just media didn't have to say, because one's good, the other's bad,
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Mm-hmm.
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If they, if this was the exact same movie and it was like, paramedics are underpaid, underappreciated.
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They deal with the highest, you know, worst moments, right?
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Um.
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there's a scene where Dwight's character is responding to a car accident and he finds the mom barely alive, but in her hand is a Ky so he starts freaking out, like, am I gonna see a dead baby when I open that car door?
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Kind of a thing.
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The baby lives everything's fine, but like.
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It represents that.
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Right?
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But Just, because that's a paramedic's life, that doesn't mean that a cop's bad or that a doctor is bad, right?
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If it was the same movie and the cops didn't necessarily take the paramedic seriously, and the doctors didn't necessarily take them diagnostically serious, fine.
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But you also don't need to make them bad people.
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Right?
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Like both can be true.
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yeah.
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Just because one deals with a lot doesn't make the other one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I'm kind of like, if they would just show like, Hey, the cops are dealing with their crap and they have to deal with like worst case scenario all the time, and paramedics have to see the really ugly parts of these bad days.
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And doctors have to deal with 20 things all at the same time and they do anything wrong.
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Anybody could die at any, like,
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Yeah.
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Because I
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they could show all of those things.
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is a little bit crossover with all of these jobs, right?
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And
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Yeah,
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I think they're like trying to show how sometimes.
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career can get in the way of another one's job.
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But making them the bad guys, I feel like is not the good
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yeah,
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but like you can show how it is frustrating that sometimes those lines do merge a little bit.
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Um,'cause like sometimes cops are the first ones that arrive on a scene and then they have to call the them in, so it's like,
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Well, most of the time that there's paramedics there, there is also cops there.
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yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's just kind of a thing.
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They both kind of show up to most things.
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Um, uh, the other thing is like, it's also dependent on where you live too.
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So, like in my hometown, to be a firefighter, you also have to be a paramedic.
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I know that's not just a my hometown thing, so the scene where he's trying to buy muffins and wanting the discount.
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I was sitting there like, I cannot imagine a cashier.
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Like I could, I could see it if it was the owner of the establishment wanting to make his buck, but the cashier caring enough to be like, you're just a paramedic.
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Like, I'm not even saying that didn't happen.
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I'm sure that that is a real experience.
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I don't doubt that people are that scummy, but like I just, I can't imagine that like
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Yeah.
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I mean, like I was probably, uh, my manager's worst nightmare as a cashier because I gave like discounts to everybody.
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Yeah, and like,
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I was like, oh, yep, I can make that cheaper for you.
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Don't worry.
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Yeah.
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and like on top of that, it's like in terms of like public opinion.
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If you were to scale how popular these roles are in society?
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Cops are at the bottom, firefighters are at the top, paramedics are in the middle of that.
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Like, um, so I do think that there's some stuff that they over exaggerated.
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I do know it's a film.
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Um, it's just like, if I had a magic ability to actually be in charge of this project, those are some changes I would make.
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Um, but I, I did still really like this movie.
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I don't see paramedics getting enough appreciation.
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Um, I do think it's valid to say that they see the ugliest things.
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Like even when a cop shows up, he's not digging through body parts, you know, he's directing traffic or, um.
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Yeah.
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Doing whatever, unless there's like a baby crying, then it might go try and save somebody.
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But in that case, you know, the baby's alive.
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But like, uh, paramedics, um, one of the stories Dwight's character tells is finding that a postpartum depression mother put her baby in a microwave.
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Hmm
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Right.
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And it doesn't show it.
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And I'm really grateful it didn't show it, but it's a scene where he talks about why everybody always talks to him and says, what's the worst thing you've ever seen?
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hmm.
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And he, he compares it and you're like, that's exactly what he does.
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He's like, Hey, why don't you tell me about the worst day you've ever had and relive that while you're trying to eat your cheese steak sandwich after you haven't eaten six hours into your 12 hour shift.
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You know?
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Um, that was the point of the, the message.
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But like, I.
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That is what they see and that is horrifying, and they have to deal with that emotional baggage.
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Um, so for that, I, I do think that this is still a really good movie.
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I, I still do, will recommend it to people.
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I just, I have some caveats that like, I don't view doctors are as bad as they are, although that one's not quite as bad.
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Um,'cause it's just one doctor that he is dealing with.
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If there was multiple all being the same way, then it would be a little bit more egregious.
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But I do think like, maybe there is one bad doctor, honestly, maybe he just is that much of a dick and you know, but that's the one they decided to show.
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Okay.
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But also, like, not all cops are that bad.
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And having them around, you know, black people is not a bad thing, you know?
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Um, like so.
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Those are just the few things like my two little criticisms of it, but still doesn't make it a bad movie.
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There are times where it makes me laugh.
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Uh, there are things that have made me think about, I don't know how high on my rewatch list this will come.
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Um, I gave it a 7.8 out of 10.
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I could see myself rewatching it.
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I do recommend it to people.
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I may not rewatch it for quite a while.
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Um, but anything that shines light on first responders I, I think is a good thing, especially when they do it, honestly.
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And like I said, I believe that 96% of this is honest.
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So, um, I appreciate it for that.
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Good.
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Oh, with that, let's go ahead and get to your horror movie that you watched.
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Um, this truly terrifying thing gives children nightmares.
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Um, what is the whoop in cabin tent?
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I don't even think it counts as horror.
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it was more of like a mystery.
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It it was dumb.
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Um, so this is a new, uh, another new movie on Netflix.
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Um, it has, uh, Kira Knightly and she's like this reporter.
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Um, anyway, so she's invited to like record this party on this yacht.
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that was like put together because um, these people had like added to this, um, research and one of the lady.
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Like, the lady who put this together has cancer and like she's, um, ill basically, um, could die any day.
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And, uh, so she invites this, uh, this journalist on board and she's like, yeah, I like you because you're very honest in your journalism and I want to go over some things with you.
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Uh, so she like tells her how, she's like, yeah, I'm gonna give away all of my wealth to this cancer fundation uh, this cancer research, um, thing.
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And basically she wrote her husband out of the will and like, wants everything to go to this research.
00:19:31.855 --> 00:19:33.625
And she's like, okay, well that's weird.
00:19:33.625 --> 00:19:35.545
And she's like, well, how are you feeling today?
00:19:35.545 --> 00:19:37.464
And she's like, oh, well I'm off my medication because.
00:19:39.355 --> 00:19:41.005
Yeah, I don't like how it makes me feel.
00:19:41.005 --> 00:19:45.444
And she's like, I'm circling the drain anyway, so, uh, don't wanna do it.
00:19:45.625 --> 00:19:47.275
So she's like, oh, okay.
00:19:47.575 --> 00:19:59.694
Uh, and then, um, she goes back to her cabin, like she accidentally walked in on somebody in Cabin 10, uh, when she was trying to avoid her situation ship that's on the ship as well.
00:20:00.085 --> 00:20:10.434
Um, uh, she goes to bed that night and the girl in that cabin, she hears like screaming and then she hears somebody go overboard.
00:20:10.825 --> 00:20:19.765
And so she looks outside and there's like this frosted window that divides their little porches on the outside and there's like this bloody hand print.
00:20:19.765 --> 00:20:22.765
And she's like, that's not good.
00:20:22.765 --> 00:20:26.875
So she like calls security, like, says somebody went overboard, like, we need to stop.
00:20:26.875 --> 00:20:28.674
And then everybody's like going around.
00:20:29.365 --> 00:20:31.644
like, um, there was nobody in Cabin 10.
00:20:31.884 --> 00:20:34.285
Like, nobody's recorded as being in cabin.
00:20:35.065 --> 00:20:37.164
And she's like, no, there was a bloody hand print.
00:20:37.164 --> 00:20:37.884
I can prove it.
00:20:37.884 --> 00:20:38.365
Come look.
00:20:38.365 --> 00:20:41.815
And so she like shows'em, and there's no bloody hand print there.
00:20:41.815 --> 00:20:42.625
And she's like, what?
00:20:42.684 --> 00:20:55.045
And so like, everything is like, she's getting gaslit for like half of the movie that this isn't happening, but she's getting like more neurotic about like trying to f like prove that there was somebody in that cabin, but they like locked off the cabin.
00:20:55.045 --> 00:21:02.335
So then she like climbs off over the railing to get inside the cabin and she's like, there's gotta be like hair in the drain or something.
00:21:02.545 --> 00:21:14.724
So she checks the drain and she finds some blonde hair and she's like, ah, somebody wasn't here because this is like the maiden voyage of this yacht so that there's hair in the drain means that somebody was in cabinet habitat.
00:21:15.115 --> 00:21:25.375
So she, she has the hair and then she gets like, um, she, she's going around to everybody being like, no, I can prove it.
00:21:25.375 --> 00:21:26.184
I can prove it.
00:21:26.424 --> 00:21:29.815
And then, uh, a lot of people are just like, oh, well didn't you like.
00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:35.500
Uh, this might just be like PTSD because you watched your best friend drown like a year ago.
00:21:35.769 --> 00:21:38.769
So like, maybe you're just having like ations.
00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:41.710
And she's like, no, I have, I have proof.
00:21:42.099 --> 00:21:48.400
And then, uh, they finally kind of convinced her that like to let it go.
00:21:48.789 --> 00:21:54.819
And then as she's like showering, somebody writes on her mirror, like, stop searching or whatever.
00:21:54.970 --> 00:21:58.150
And I was like, dude, she had just stopped searching.
00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:05.470
Now you're gonna make her like, of course it amps her being like, somebody was in my shower, somebody's trying to shut me up.
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:07.750
And so then she like goes off again.
00:22:07.750 --> 00:22:11.650
And then somebody tried to push her into a pool and drown her.
00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:39.714
And then, um, she, uh, decides somebody like dresses up like the girl, um, that she saw in Cabin 10 She starts like chasing her throughout the yacht and then they lock her up in like this little thing and the girl like rips her wig off and it, it's the um, cancer lady.
00:22:40.194 --> 00:22:46.015
And she's like, uh, she's like, stop it.
00:22:46.015 --> 00:22:47.005
Stop looking for me.
00:22:47.005 --> 00:22:47.515
It's me.
00:22:47.515 --> 00:22:48.295
I'm fine.
00:22:49.825 --> 00:22:57.474
And she's like, wait, I'm still so this movie so dumb.
00:22:57.744 --> 00:23:12.805
Anyway, so the husband found out that his wife had written him out of the will, so he went on Facebook and used AI to find a girl who had a similar face to his wife had her cut her hair off, apparently on the yacht in the sink.
00:23:12.865 --> 00:23:15.174
And that's where she found all the hair to be like.
00:23:15.174 --> 00:23:24.480
There was a girl in cabin, Ken, and then he was gonna have her, the actress sign as his wife to then like.
00:23:25.734 --> 00:23:29.454
Uh, changed the wheel back to being, going to him.
00:23:29.724 --> 00:23:36.744
But when the wife found out and like confronted him, he killed her and threw her overboard in Cabin 10.
00:23:37.194 --> 00:23:40.555
And so they found out that it was the wife that went overboard.
00:23:40.765 --> 00:23:50.755
And then, anyway, there was like this whole part where the doctor was trying to kill Kiera at nightly, and then she had to like jump off into freezing waters and they're like, oh, she'll die of hypothermia.
00:23:50.755 --> 00:23:51.085
It's fine.
00:23:51.085 --> 00:23:52.015
We're not gonna check up on that.
00:23:52.015 --> 00:23:52.404
It's fine.
00:23:52.795 --> 00:24:13.674
And then of course, she like pops up at the gala that they were having, and then he takes the lookalike hostage, and then there's all of a sudden this, like bad a guard that ends up shooting, um, the, the guy and saving it was dumb.
00:24:13.825 --> 00:24:15.474
Anyway, so I give it like, um,
00:24:15.672 --> 00:24:17.152
sounds like you found a winner there.
00:24:17.750 --> 00:24:23.470
I, I, like, I was, I was like.
00:24:24.684 --> 00:24:26.634
The pacing was very weird to me.
00:24:27.444 --> 00:24:30.115
I was excited because of some of the actors that were in it.
00:24:30.414 --> 00:24:40.974
The girl who plays Rebecca and Ted Lasso is in it, but she's kind of this awful lady that's not even in it very much.
00:24:41.454 --> 00:24:48.625
Um, yeah, it wasn't, um, I won't be rewatching it.
00:24:49.164 --> 00:24:50.904
I'd rather watch Black Panther.
00:24:50.994 --> 00:24:52.255
I'm giving it a four.
00:24:52.674 --> 00:24:55.194
'cause there were like, I was a little like.
00:24:56.140 --> 00:25:00.549
I, was thinking that maybe she was crazy the entire time when they were gaslighting her.
00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:01.660
I was like, nah, she's crazy.
00:25:01.660 --> 00:25:03.009
She needs to just be quiet.
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:05.829
Just enjoy being on a yacht.
00:25:11.349 --> 00:25:18.670
Stay in your, but uh, her like character was all about like unearthing the truth.
00:25:18.670 --> 00:25:26.230
So she would go to No like, like, yeah, it was just like the whole time I was like, you could be smarter about this girl.
00:25:26.589 --> 00:25:27.160
Anyway.
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:43.119
Um, so yeah, I gave it a four'cause I was interested in it until like, the pacing halfway through, they told the whole, the whole secret halfway through the movie.
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.180
And so then I was like, okay, where are you going from here?
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.809
And then it kind of was just like a, where is she?
00:25:49.869 --> 00:25:52.720
But the whole time, we know where she is, but nobody else knows where she is.
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:53.200
And it was.
00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:56.440
pacing and like weird.
00:25:58.182 --> 00:26:05.291
I am honestly surprised you gave it as good as a four with the, that glowing recommendation you gave.
00:26:05.442 --> 00:26:06.451
So it, I mean.
00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:10.359
Uh, I mean, like I could see some people liking it.
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:11.559
It wasn't for me.
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:26.380
I feel like whenever I, I just get so frustrated with people's decisions in movies like this'cause I'm like, stop making a fuss about this.
00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:31.839
Like, she's trying to unearth something, but she's very loud about it the entire time and I'm.
00:26:32.694 --> 00:26:34.855
And then she would like get mad when she found out.
00:26:34.914 --> 00:26:37.255
People knew stuff about her investigation.
00:26:37.255 --> 00:26:39.025
And I'm like, well girl, you're not really quiet.
00:26:39.025 --> 00:26:47.964
Like, uh, and then her be, her situationship kept, like, she would confide in him and then he would tell everybody else.
00:26:48.025 --> 00:26:49.404
And then she's like, how does everybody know this?
00:26:49.404 --> 00:26:50.934
And he is like, I told em.
00:26:51.204 --> 00:26:52.224
And then she's like, why'd you tell them?
00:26:52.224 --> 00:26:53.454
I was like, girl, why'd you tell him?
00:26:55.585 --> 00:27:00.295
Like, anyway, so I, I can see other people liking it.
00:27:00.384 --> 00:27:05.934
I gave it a four'cause I did like the first half until revealed everything.
00:27:05.934 --> 00:27:05.964
I,
00:27:07.047 --> 00:27:14.426
And how does it make you feel that in the movie where they were gaslighting her, you were also a little bit gaslit.
00:27:16.130 --> 00:27:16.704
I hated it.
00:27:19.884 --> 00:27:26.289
I was mad that it worked on me a little bit because I was like, I was like, yeah, girl, just, just enjoy.
00:27:26.605 --> 00:27:30.805
Well at least I was like, just let it go until you're off the yacht.
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:38.230
Obviously nothing's gonna happen, like you're making enemies and there's no way for you to get off this yacht.
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.109
So like just wait until you're off the yacht.
00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:43.900
You're in the middle of the ocean.
00:27:46.059 --> 00:27:46.539
Yeah.
00:27:47.019 --> 00:27:47.500
Anyway.
00:27:48.362 --> 00:27:49.092
Fair enough.
00:27:49.602 --> 00:27:56.007
Alright, uh, we're gonna change gears a little bit.
00:27:56.096 --> 00:27:58.406
I've got another topic for you guys.
00:27:59.336 --> 00:28:01.797
I watched Freakier Friday.
00:28:03.116 --> 00:28:08.186
And, uh, if I'm remembering right, Conlan liked this movie pretty well.
00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:08.890
Yeah,
00:28:10.017 --> 00:28:10.916
Have you seen that?
00:28:11.007 --> 00:28:11.936
I don't remember.
00:28:12.626 --> 00:28:12.926
Okay.
00:28:14.096 --> 00:28:16.406
Uh, well, here are my thoughts.
00:28:16.467 --> 00:28:20.967
Um, I don't remember exactly what Conlan said about it.
00:28:20.967 --> 00:28:29.846
We talked a little bit while he was visiting, um, but I was kind of tentative about it.
00:28:29.846 --> 00:28:33.747
But after his review I was like, okay, give it a shot.
00:28:34.076 --> 00:28:35.606
We'll see what this is all about.
00:28:37.376 --> 00:28:41.876
My thoughts are, this is a really crappy version of the first.
00:28:42.086 --> 00:28:49.856
Um, they make callbacks to the old movie, then retell that same joke like four times.
00:28:51.176 --> 00:28:59.547
Um, so like there's the scene in the original where she's like, ah, I'm like the crypt keeper.
00:29:00.244 --> 00:29:00.535
Yeah.
00:29:01.362 --> 00:29:05.622
So when she switches bodies again, she does it again.
00:29:06.102 --> 00:29:14.622
But then she has like, it kind of feels like they, the writers weren't sure which line was funniest, so they were like, here's 10 of'em.
00:29:14.892 --> 00:29:16.122
Just kind of like do it.
00:29:16.602 --> 00:29:22.241
So she does the first one and then she faints and everybody's like, is she dead?
00:29:22.271 --> 00:29:28.241
And then all of a sudden she's like delivering these other lines again about looking old.
00:29:28.511 --> 00:29:36.041
And I'm like, okay, that was dumb.
00:29:36.644 --> 00:29:36.934
Yeah.
00:29:36.942 --> 00:29:47.201
Sometimes they'll make it a joke and it kind of feels like they made it for the theaters so they give a pause'cause they expect the audience to laugh,
00:29:47.954 --> 00:29:48.075
Hmm.
00:29:49.422 --> 00:29:52.602
but I'm just me and I didn't find it very funny.
00:29:53.082 --> 00:29:56.481
So they tell a joke and I'm just like, why do we do it?
00:29:57.761 --> 00:29:59.261
Just gotta stand around right now.
00:29:59.321 --> 00:30:00.672
Nothing's really moving forward.
00:30:01.414 --> 00:30:03.115
not gonna laugh no longer how much you pause.
00:30:05.217 --> 00:30:06.701
It doesn't make it funny.
00:30:06.791 --> 00:30:19.031
Um, in the first movie you had squinty eyes have a crush on the mom, and that's a little bit awkward, but you can kind like, accept it a little bit.
00:30:20.741 --> 00:30:26.592
In this one, he comes back and still has a crush on the mom, but is in like, in love with her.
00:30:27.430 --> 00:30:27.549
Hmm.
00:30:28.001 --> 00:30:37.991
And so it went from, that's a little uncomfortable, but you can kind of laugh at it to could, why not watch this?
00:30:38.981 --> 00:30:47.741
Like, this is cringey and awkward and I don't want to watch this.
00:30:48.612 --> 00:30:53.201
Um, it's just like.
00:30:54.342 --> 00:30:55.031
Not great.
00:30:55.392 --> 00:30:58.481
Um, there are some good things to it.
00:30:58.902 --> 00:31:02.442
Um, there are some good moments.
00:31:03.041 --> 00:31:05.382
Uh, there's good stuff to the movie.
00:31:05.442 --> 00:31:07.692
It's not an all bad movie.
00:31:09.521 --> 00:31:12.281
I won't be rewatching it.
00:31:12.582 --> 00:31:22.781
Um, simply because the first exists and it's like I would rather watch the first where they don't have uncomfortable pauses or retell the jokes four times.
00:31:23.329 --> 00:31:23.619
Yeah.
00:31:24.432 --> 00:31:36.701
And I kinda like the original, like it's a classic, you know, like is this one of the better, like reboot nostalgia things.
00:31:37.662 --> 00:31:40.781
Yes, I would put it on the better side,
00:31:41.575 --> 00:31:42.595
The worst of the better.
00:31:43.092 --> 00:31:44.741
but though, but it's like.
00:31:46.737 --> 00:31:49.886
I still don't think it should exist.
00:31:50.426 --> 00:31:52.527
Like we have the original.
00:31:52.737 --> 00:31:57.987
The original isn't bad, it's jokes aren't dated, it's fine.
00:31:58.674 --> 00:31:59.184
Yeah.
00:31:59.426 --> 00:32:02.277
watch the original is kind of my opinion on that.
00:32:02.336 --> 00:32:02.936
And so
00:32:04.555 --> 00:32:05.035
Yeah.
00:32:05.214 --> 00:32:11.845
I always hate the RELs, like the remakes that are prequel, uh,
00:32:12.442 --> 00:32:12.932
sequels.
00:32:13.105 --> 00:32:13.555
sequels.
00:32:13.555 --> 00:32:14.005
There we go.
00:32:14.422 --> 00:32:14.711
yeah.
00:32:15.775 --> 00:32:17.005
I was like, that's not right.
00:32:18.325 --> 00:32:24.775
Um, yeah, I as like a creative, well, I like to think that I'm a creative.
00:32:25.194 --> 00:32:27.654
Um, it drives me.
00:32:28.974 --> 00:32:31.255
How doing that sells.
00:32:31.404 --> 00:32:37.224
And so you're not, we're not getting a lot of new stuff because people are just banking off of nostalgia.
00:32:37.525 --> 00:32:38.545
And I was like, okay.
00:32:38.545 --> 00:32:51.474
But like when we go on to like the next generation, we don't have anything for you to make like all of these sequel stuffs and like, you don't have the nostalgia there.
00:32:51.775 --> 00:32:58.224
So it's like people need to come up with their own stories and like new ideas.
00:32:58.255 --> 00:33:04.255
And so I always, I always get a little bit eye rolly and grunt and old Manny when
00:33:05.477 --> 00:33:06.856
Get off my lawn
00:33:07.704 --> 00:33:09.865
get off my intellectual property,
00:33:14.561 --> 00:33:15.011
fair.
00:33:15.865 --> 00:33:21.744
like it I get angry when it's like, okay, well now we're gonna beat Star Wars to death.
00:33:22.015 --> 00:33:26.275
Now we're gonna find this thing and do this thing to death.
00:33:28.615 --> 00:33:34.194
I think the only thing that I was ever really excited that they were bringing back and it flopped.
00:33:34.825 --> 00:33:36.144
I don't think it flopped.
00:33:36.865 --> 00:33:37.855
thought it was great.
00:33:38.065 --> 00:33:40.884
Is the dark crystal, the series that they did?
00:33:42.384 --> 00:33:47.184
I loved those and I was really worried about those actually.
00:33:47.575 --> 00:33:58.015
Um, and they were gonna have it be an animated series and I'm so glad they didn't because the part of what like makes the dark crystal good is'cause the puppets.
00:33:58.015 --> 00:33:59.724
I know that's why you hate it, but
00:34:02.186 --> 00:34:05.217
I hate it for a lot of reasons, but that is one.
00:34:05.217 --> 00:34:06.057
of the main ones.
00:34:06.057 --> 00:34:06.567
Yes.
00:34:06.924 --> 00:34:07.434
Yeah.
00:34:07.946 --> 00:34:08.126
Yeah.
00:34:08.724 --> 00:34:13.014
but I thought it was really well done and I was really sad that that didn't continue.
00:34:13.405 --> 00:34:19.014
Um, but that one was like a passion project that wasn't a reboot to get money.
00:34:19.465 --> 00:34:23.215
Uh, I feel like we need more passion projects.
00:34:23.664 --> 00:34:24.324
Um.
00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:30.474
And I don't think that freak or Friday, it sounds like it wasn't a passion project
00:34:31.632 --> 00:34:40.271
I would say that it was, um, it wasn't like they were trying to politicize it or make it into a message or whatever.
00:34:40.902 --> 00:34:43.001
Uh, there is good stuff to it.
00:34:43.001 --> 00:34:52.572
Like I said, um, Lindsay Lohan, I do want to support her in trying to like be a good person now.
00:34:52.811 --> 00:34:54.251
So like that's a good thing.
00:34:54.762 --> 00:35:00.161
Um, you know, she made a lot of mistakes and it drove her from being
00:35:02.289 --> 00:35:02.510
and
00:35:02.592 --> 00:35:06.402
princess of the early two thousands to, uh, arrested.
00:35:06.402 --> 00:35:06.612
So.
00:35:09.552 --> 00:35:17.186
I I think it's good that she is back doing good things and trying to be a good person and all that kind of stuff.
00:35:18.206 --> 00:35:22.887
It's just, hopefully this leads to more roles for her.
00:35:22.887 --> 00:35:24.266
She's a good actress.
00:35:24.327 --> 00:35:29.097
Um, uh, as like, this just wasn't all that great.
00:35:30.146 --> 00:35:31.527
It wasn't horrible.
00:35:31.737 --> 00:35:33.086
It wasn't bad.
00:35:34.976 --> 00:35:37.797
I do have those couple of criticisms to it.
00:35:38.456 --> 00:35:46.286
Like I was making fun of the, I'm the crypt keeper saying, um, like the first time they delivered the line, it was kind of funny.
00:35:46.737 --> 00:35:47.726
I just didn't like that.
00:35:47.726 --> 00:35:53.126
They were like, eh, but what about, what if this line's funnier or what if this line's funnier or what if this line's funnier?
00:35:53.304 --> 00:35:53.525
Hmm.
00:35:53.936 --> 00:36:03.686
And they did update it to make it more Gen Z sounding kind of stuff and all that kind of hijinks.
00:36:03.686 --> 00:36:06.836
And it is just, you know.
00:36:09.597 --> 00:36:14.217
Conlin and I were talking about it, it's still one of the better switched bodies.
00:36:14.217 --> 00:36:24.867
Hi jinks kind of movies, but that's'cause there's Freaky Friday and like some really terrible, awful movies
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.885
Have you seen the original Freaky Friday
00:36:33.117 --> 00:36:35.771
with Lindsay Lohan or the, no, I haven't.
00:36:36.864 --> 00:36:41.844
Um, that was an interesting one.
00:36:42.175 --> 00:36:45.204
I remember watching that one and that darn cat.
00:36:46.074 --> 00:36:47.905
'cause I think it had the same actress in it.
00:36:48.264 --> 00:36:53.304
Um, but like, it's so funny'cause I think about that freaky Friday all, all the time.
00:36:54.507 --> 00:36:54.657
Okay.
00:36:55.137 --> 00:36:55.407
Yep.
00:36:55.420 --> 00:37:02.619
But, uh, just because there was one scene that I feel like the dad was so mean to the daughter.
00:37:02.949 --> 00:37:07.659
He like tricks her into doing something, um, that she didn't wanna do.
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.090
But, uh, it's, yeah, it's funny.
00:37:10.510 --> 00:37:15.130
Um, I think maybe we should all watch that one, the old, old one.
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:19.659
'cause Freaky Friday with Lindsay Lohan is a remake, so,
00:37:19.677 --> 00:37:20.427
Yeah.
00:37:20.427 --> 00:37:23.907
but not the same way that this one is,
00:37:24.429 --> 00:37:24.789
cause this
00:37:24.956 --> 00:37:25.347
right?
00:37:25.449 --> 00:37:27.369
the a remake.
00:37:28.179 --> 00:37:28.900
Sequel.
00:37:29.637 --> 00:37:29.936
Yeah.
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:30.460
Yeah.
00:37:30.896 --> 00:37:38.097
It isn't, it wasn't a like nostalgia bait, like they weren't trying to do it to just bank on the ip.
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:39.519
Yeah.
00:37:40.496 --> 00:37:42.777
There's, there's quite a few differences there, but yeah.
00:37:44.186 --> 00:37:47.427
Um, I gave it a 6.7 out of 10.
00:37:47.817 --> 00:37:49.257
I don't know if I said that or not.
00:37:49.617 --> 00:37:51.132
Like it's fine.
00:37:51.132 --> 00:37:53.976
Uh, it's not going on my rewatch list.
00:37:54.702 --> 00:37:56.831
Would I rather watch it than Black Panther?
00:37:57.371 --> 00:37:57.762
Yeah.
00:37:58.242 --> 00:37:58.422
Yeah.
00:37:58.422 --> 00:37:58.782
I would
00:37:59.425 --> 00:38:00.264
Gun to my head.
00:38:00.264 --> 00:38:00.445
Yeah.
00:38:03.132 --> 00:38:09.641
wouldn't really choose to watch either of them, but if I had to choose one, that is the one that I would pick.
00:38:09.822 --> 00:38:10.152
So.
00:38:12.041 --> 00:38:12.581
All right.
00:38:12.581 --> 00:38:16.092
Let's get on to our shared topic.
00:38:17.081 --> 00:38:20.202
Lauren, how hard did you cry?
00:38:22.195 --> 00:38:24.295
I didn't cry this time.
00:38:24.684 --> 00:38:31.074
Um, that, I mean, the heartstrings were tugged, but that was because I was watching it while I was playing.
00:38:31.074 --> 00:38:35.659
Hell divers, I,
00:38:36.536 --> 00:38:37.027
Illegal.
00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:47.335
I was, yeah, I was trying to get, um, I was farming on, uh, hell divers while I was watching this.
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:53.949
But this soundtrack, like if I just listen to the soundtrack, I'll cry.
00:38:54.190 --> 00:38:56.530
It is pretty.
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:14.739
Um, but it's also like I was thinking about this time while watching it and there was like a lot of things that I did not pick up on it, um, I watched it, uh, because I don't think I've seen this movie since I was in high school.
00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:17.650
And, but I really love this movie.
00:39:17.860 --> 00:39:20.829
Um, I would watch it over and over again.
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:45.829
Uh, didn't realize like how much of like poor James, like people, just people being crappy about assuming what's going on and then like spreading these rumors to everybody when it's like literally he's just like, no, I'm just like being imaginative with these kids.
00:39:46.735 --> 00:39:51.324
that's literally all that's happening and like helping the, um, the mom.
00:39:51.715 --> 00:39:52.375
And like,
00:39:52.496 --> 00:39:55.737
Well, you should be happy to know that that didn't happen in real life.
00:39:55.855 --> 00:40:03.744
I know it didn't, and it made me ha yeah, I thought this was like a documentary.
00:40:03.744 --> 00:40:04.014
Just kidding.
00:40:06.594 --> 00:40:14.934
Um, but I was obsessed with like Peter Pan stories growing up because I had to grow up real quick.
00:40:15.204 --> 00:40:26.905
But I pretended like I didn't grow up for like, the sake of my family because I was the little, I was the baby of the family and so I always have to be like the baby or whatever.
00:40:27.144 --> 00:40:36.235
But I was, nah, I was like, I remember I had, I don't remember when I haven't had a job.
00:40:36.385 --> 00:40:41.155
Like I was always doing like, under the table jobs and stuff and like.
00:40:42.010 --> 00:40:42.610
I don't know.
00:40:42.789 --> 00:40:48.969
So like, finding Neverland hit with me'cause you have like these little kids who have to grow up.
00:40:49.329 --> 00:40:56.320
But um, the main character's like trying to be like, no, stay little.
00:40:56.530 --> 00:41:10.989
Like I know you have to deal with a lot and like I was realizing, I was like, when uh, Peter has this part where he is like, no, you're just wanting me to pretend that everything's okay with all of these, like, little things that we're doing when it's not okay.
00:41:11.349 --> 00:41:14.889
And uh, I was like, ah, yes, it's called dissociating.
00:41:18.304 --> 00:41:25.329
Like, um, I remember in high school I actually did this whole thing for F-C-C-L-A.
00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:30.280
Um, it was like reading and bringing back imagination is what I called it.
00:41:30.670 --> 00:41:39.070
And it was because my high school didn't have a library and so I was trying to like, um, I started like a book club and stuff, and.
00:41:39.144 --> 00:41:42.505
I was trying to get a library, raise money for books.
00:41:42.864 --> 00:41:47.514
Um, did shop class so I could make shelves for the library.
00:41:47.574 --> 00:41:51.114
Found an old storage room that we could convert into a library.
00:41:52.467 --> 00:41:56.277
And we wonder why the intelligence of pen, which is going down,
00:41:57.445 --> 00:41:58.644
going down to
00:42:00.262 --> 00:42:00.552
okay.
00:42:00.572 --> 00:42:02.936
We wonder why it was never up.
00:42:03.027 --> 00:42:03.416
Okay.
00:42:04.525 --> 00:42:05.815
We had a public library.
00:42:06.204 --> 00:42:21.565
Um, but, um, yeah, anyway, this was like a movie that I thought of often, uh, when I was like doing that stuff of like, um.
00:42:24.324 --> 00:42:29.454
Like the part where, uh, he brings the play to her house.
00:42:29.695 --> 00:42:33.534
Uh, that's my favorite scene when they're like all in there.
00:42:33.565 --> 00:42:35.724
And like I did get a little choked up.
00:42:35.724 --> 00:42:41.005
I didn't fall out cry this time, but I did get a little choked up when they're like, say you believe it, Barry.
00:42:42.565 --> 00:42:52.074
And it's like, at that point it's like, um, in my mind I was like, oh, they're actually saying like, believe it gets better.
00:42:52.465 --> 00:42:53.724
Like believe this isn't the end.
00:42:53.724 --> 00:42:54.655
Believe it gets better.
00:42:55.105 --> 00:43:00.114
Um, and it's like a really good movie about grief.
00:43:01.855 --> 00:43:06.655
that for the first time I was like, oh yeah, that is what this movie is about.
00:43:10.871 --> 00:43:19.572
Really, the kid is so robotic and unemotional because he is going through grief.
00:43:19.931 --> 00:43:24.581
The mom is dealing with the loss, the other boys are dealing with the loss.
00:43:25.121 --> 00:43:31.541
He is dealing with his dying relationship, our main character is, and his failing career.
00:43:31.782 --> 00:43:34.061
And this movie is about grief.
00:43:36.295 --> 00:43:37.344
That was about Peter Pan.
00:43:37.405 --> 00:43:38.034
To be honest.
00:43:38.034 --> 00:43:38.215
It was
00:43:38.472 --> 00:43:39.311
That's insane.
00:43:39.505 --> 00:43:40.135
and never laugh.
00:43:42.744 --> 00:43:53.394
Um, there's, um, that's what was really bothering me this time though, was paying attention to the relationship with his wife.
00:43:54.954 --> 00:43:58.764
because before I was always like, oh, the wife is so horrible and stuff.
00:43:58.764 --> 00:44:03.295
And it's like, yeah, she was, she was supportive to the,
00:44:03.527 --> 00:44:03.947
Career.
00:44:03.985 --> 00:44:09.565
the play, was put on, but in nothing else.
00:44:10.914 --> 00:44:13.525
and he did like, say like, Hey, wanna come to the park with me?
00:44:13.525 --> 00:44:14.125
And she's like.
00:44:14.514 --> 00:44:15.505
Well, are you working?
00:44:15.505 --> 00:44:19.224
And he's like, well, yeah, well, like, I want you to come with me.
00:44:19.554 --> 00:44:25.465
And then, um, she had this whole thing of like, where she's like, I wanted you to take me to Neverland.
00:44:25.465 --> 00:44:27.144
He's like, I tried so many times.
00:44:27.445 --> 00:44:30.445
'cause he was like, yeah, when he was playing with the boys, he was working.
00:44:30.894 --> 00:44:35.485
But that was like his imagination of like, and then he'd like write down what happened.
00:44:35.545 --> 00:44:41.784
And so like he was asking his wife to go on these adventures with him, but she's like, no, okay.
00:44:41.965 --> 00:44:48.445
But then she later was like, this is what I need from you like, give us a chance.
00:44:48.474 --> 00:44:51.204
And then he was like, no, sorry.
00:44:51.954 --> 00:44:54.264
like, I, I hated that whole relationship.
00:44:54.985 --> 00:44:56.454
did not like it on either end.
00:44:56.934 --> 00:45:02.304
Um, I feel like the movie could have been just fine if he was single.
00:45:03.625 --> 00:45:07.465
If he was single, I think it would've been just fine.
00:45:07.885 --> 00:45:12.505
Um, other than you wouldn't have the grandma being like.
00:45:12.894 --> 00:45:14.304
You are ruining her prospects.
00:45:14.304 --> 00:45:20.875
And I was like, I actually think the disease that's killing her is ruining her prospects, because I don't think she's gonna live long enough to have another husband.
00:45:20.875 --> 00:45:21.235
Fine.
00:45:24.586 --> 00:45:27.367
To be fair, the grandma doesn't know that she's dying at that, point.
00:45:27.369 --> 00:45:28.554
that that is fair.
00:45:30.625 --> 00:45:46.795
but yeah, and there was like, I noticed this time, um, how they kept, everybody kept addressing how this looks outside of everything, how people are gossiping about stuff.
00:45:47.155 --> 00:45:54.445
And, uh, I part of me was like, was mad about it.
00:45:54.445 --> 00:45:59.364
And then another part of me was like, well, if people, uh, still mad, but for a different reason.
00:45:59.485 --> 00:46:01.795
I was like, people were really worried about that.
00:46:01.795 --> 00:46:04.164
They should have done something about it than just speculating.
00:46:06.985 --> 00:46:08.244
anyway, this movie's great.
00:46:09.867 --> 00:46:11.217
You rate it on a scale of one to 10.
00:46:11.635 --> 00:46:14.034
Um, I would give it a nine
00:46:14.817 --> 00:46:15.117
Okay.
00:46:16.106 --> 00:46:21.327
Well, now that this robot over here is done with her spiel, um.
00:46:21.625 --> 00:46:22.195
robot.
00:46:22.737 --> 00:46:23.306
Yeah.
00:46:23.547 --> 00:46:25.077
Unemotional robot.
00:46:26.514 --> 00:46:30.565
No, I told you how it made me cry every single time I watch it, but this time I
00:46:30.717 --> 00:46:31.047
just.
00:46:31.047 --> 00:46:33.987
not this time because now you're a robot dead inside.
00:46:34.737 --> 00:46:42.626
Um, the historical inaccuracies of this movie, uh, is egregious.
00:46:42.746 --> 00:46:51.657
Um, some of you may have caught on, she mentioned it a few times, but for official sake, we're talking about finding Neverland.
00:46:52.047 --> 00:46:56.382
Um, and the family had five boys, not four.
00:46:58.617 --> 00:47:05.126
Uh, Johnny Depp's character met the father before he died quite significantly.
00:47:05.547 --> 00:47:13.047
Johnny Depp's character and his wife didn't have relationship issues like that, and they didn't get divorced or separated.
00:47:13.646 --> 00:47:18.382
In fact, after the mom died, he adopted the five boys.
00:47:18.922 --> 00:47:19.141
Um.
00:47:22.467 --> 00:47:28.976
The five boys have, like that whole family has got what has got to have been cursed.
00:47:29.487 --> 00:47:32.817
Uh, because the dad dies of sickness.
00:47:32.817 --> 00:47:34.527
The mom dies of sickness.
00:47:34.646 --> 00:47:37.077
Two of the boys die in World War I.
00:47:37.556 --> 00:47:40.286
The one Peter is based on Peter.
00:47:40.286 --> 00:47:44.936
He goes to war, he survives, but he deals with PTSD.
00:47:44.936 --> 00:47:47.606
It leads him to commit suicide at 65.
00:47:48.327 --> 00:47:57.266
Like that whole family is just honestly tragic story, um, is really, really bad.
00:47:57.327 --> 00:48:03.536
But like the whole romance aspect between Johnny Depp and the mom didn't happen.
00:48:04.016 --> 00:48:10.797
Uh, there was no gossiping about them being together wasn't a thing.
00:48:11.336 --> 00:48:17.817
Um, so the only like truth to the story is that.
00:48:18.192 --> 00:48:23.231
Peter Pan was based on him interacting with these four boys.
00:48:23.351 --> 00:48:24.521
Uh, that was true.
00:48:24.552 --> 00:48:26.501
The fifth boy was just a little baby.
00:48:26.501 --> 00:48:36.702
So didn't really play a part in the imagination, which is why the movie decided to say that there was only four boys.
00:48:37.242 --> 00:48:43.092
Um, but, uh, that, that's all true.
00:48:43.092 --> 00:48:53.172
And then, like I said, after the mom died, he does adopt them and he's with his wife still, and she also helps finish raising these boys.
00:48:53.771 --> 00:49:05.052
Um, that being said, if we can ignore the historical inaccuracies, which I don't mind doing one bit because this is one of my favorite Johnny Depp movies.
00:49:05.501 --> 00:49:08.621
Um, and this falls in an area where.
00:49:09.012 --> 00:49:09.911
I watch it.
00:49:09.972 --> 00:49:11.351
I absolutely love it.
00:49:11.711 --> 00:49:20.711
It breaks me, um, specifically that scene in the living room where the mom's sick and they're, they're doing the play just for her.
00:49:21.822 --> 00:49:23.742
Like, holy freaking crap.
00:49:23.742 --> 00:49:32.052
I know that didn't happen in real life and that the mom also lived like five or six years after the play, um, debuted.
00:49:32.501 --> 00:49:35.831
But like, watch that scene and don't cry.
00:49:35.922 --> 00:49:36.942
You're a robot.
00:49:37.001 --> 00:49:39.461
'cause holy crap, that hits you so hard.
00:49:40.601 --> 00:49:42.702
It makes me not wanna watch it as much.
00:49:42.731 --> 00:49:47.952
'cause like, I don't, I wanna be all sad, so then I don't watch it for a while.
00:49:48.101 --> 00:49:53.081
I forget how traumatic it is and I watch it again going, I liked that movie.
00:49:53.862 --> 00:49:55.331
Why don't I pick it?
00:49:55.391 --> 00:50:00.282
Even when I picked this as our shared topic, Lauren was like, I'm gonna get my tissues out.
00:50:00.282 --> 00:50:00.791
And I was like, what?
00:50:00.791 --> 00:50:04.362
Like, I remember it being a little sad, but like,
00:50:04.394 --> 00:50:04.510
saying,
00:50:05.021 --> 00:50:06.461
what are you talking about?
00:50:06.969 --> 00:50:10.090
I remember saying, I was like, oh, so you wanna traumatize me this week?
00:50:10.090 --> 00:50:11.619
And you're like, it's not that sad.
00:50:11.650 --> 00:50:13.030
And now you're calling me the robot.
00:50:13.347 --> 00:50:14.157
Yeah.
00:50:14.246 --> 00:50:15.836
because you did it cry.
00:50:16.317 --> 00:50:16.916
I did.
00:50:16.916 --> 00:50:18.092
I was sitting on that crash.
00:50:18.231 --> 00:50:20.132
Go, oh, that's that.
00:50:21.416 --> 00:50:25.887
Um, this movie's fantastic.
00:50:25.976 --> 00:50:28.347
Um, Johnny Depp does a great job.
00:50:28.347 --> 00:50:29.996
I love him in this role.
00:50:30.327 --> 00:50:31.856
I think he absolutely killed it.
00:50:31.976 --> 00:50:38.786
The kid who plays Peter, probably, I think the best kid actor that has ever lived.
00:50:39.177 --> 00:50:42.146
Uh, he does this, he does August rush.
00:50:42.177 --> 00:50:46.072
He does or did a whole bunch of stuff and like, I,
00:50:47.635 --> 00:50:48.835
No, that's a different one.
00:50:48.864 --> 00:50:50.485
I was like, I see dead people.
00:50:50.514 --> 00:50:53.184
No, that's a different, it doesn't connect, I believe.
00:50:54.507 --> 00:50:56.067
I think that also might be him.
00:50:56.246 --> 00:50:56.817
Um,
00:50:57.835 --> 00:50:59.034
Actually, no, I think, yeah.
00:51:01.286 --> 00:51:01.586
yeah.
00:51:01.586 --> 00:51:02.126
that's him.
00:51:02.545 --> 00:51:02.784
Yeah.
00:51:02.875 --> 00:51:03.264
Oh, okay.
00:51:03.431 --> 00:51:03.882
Anyway.
00:51:04.992 --> 00:51:06.672
Yeah, he absolutely kills it.
00:51:06.672 --> 00:51:10.452
I'm glad that he's like the focus character of the boys.
00:51:10.481 --> 00:51:18.461
'cause the other boys aren't necessarily the best actors, but like you don't really notice it unless you're looking for it kind of a thing.
00:51:19.661 --> 00:51:26.831
Um, I love, like I said, the music, the mom, she's the girl from Titanic.
00:51:26.831 --> 00:51:29.862
I actually like her in this movie, which is amazing.
00:51:30.282 --> 00:51:30.702
Yeah.
00:51:31.061 --> 00:51:50.141
Um, every single aspect of this movie is so real feeling, even though it's not necessarily historically accurate, but like the way people spread rumors and all that kind of stuff that Lauren was talking about, that's a very real thing.
00:51:50.652 --> 00:51:56.021
Uh, like you, you could watch this movie and be like, Yeah, that totally is how it happened.
00:51:56.081 --> 00:51:56.442
Um.
00:51:58.257 --> 00:52:01.106
Which is just so incredible.
00:52:01.106 --> 00:52:17.786
But the thing I want to really focus on, the thing that stood out to me this time is how Johnny Depp's character, I'm sorry, I don't remember his name, talks to the, the boy who is Peter.
00:52:17.967 --> 00:52:22.677
Um, it, that was absolutely astounding to me.
00:52:22.856 --> 00:52:30.297
Um, so there's the scene where Peter is tearing up his plate, destroying everything, and Johnny Depp just sits there.
00:52:32.637 --> 00:52:34.077
He doesn't get involved.
00:52:34.077 --> 00:52:35.817
He kind of lets him do his thing.
00:52:35.876 --> 00:52:36.476
He does it.
00:52:37.077 --> 00:52:40.527
Um, and then he talks to him like he's a real person.
00:52:40.527 --> 00:52:43.947
Like he's a boy who's upset.
00:52:44.367 --> 00:52:46.407
He's like, don't lie to me.
00:52:46.407 --> 00:52:48.657
Don't tell me it's just another chest cold again.
00:52:48.777 --> 00:52:52.376
You know, and Johnny Depp's like, I'm not telling you that.
00:52:52.376 --> 00:52:56.306
The truth is, I dunno, I'm not gonna tell you it's Okay.
00:52:56.306 --> 00:52:57.206
because I dunno.
00:52:59.217 --> 00:53:18.327
I'll tell you that things can be bad and you can still have an imagination and have fun sometimes, you know, there's the scene where he's talking to him again, um, at the hospital and he's like, don't you dare lie to me.
00:53:18.896 --> 00:53:20.786
I'm sick of adults lying to me.
00:53:21.657 --> 00:53:23.577
And he's like, I'm not gonna lie to you, Peter.
00:53:24.266 --> 00:53:34.166
I'm not gonna, um, the, the truth is, I dunno, you know, again, he has maturity to be like, he doesn't need it.
00:53:34.317 --> 00:53:36.657
He doesn't need an adult to lie to him.
00:53:36.746 --> 00:53:47.126
He doesn't need that to happen because of the trauma of what happened with his dad, um, the way he distracts The boys.
00:53:47.217 --> 00:53:52.262
Um, like everybody's sitting there freaking out worrying about the mom in the cabin.
00:53:53.621 --> 00:53:55.242
He just the coin.
00:53:55.242 --> 00:53:57.822
and the stamps and he distracts them.
00:53:58.481 --> 00:53:59.202
And like,
00:53:59.724 --> 00:54:06.625
I love that scene'cause you can see him doing that and as soon as the boys get doing that, then he kind of recoils into
00:54:06.641 --> 00:54:09.101
yeah, he's just kind of like, okay, I've
00:54:10.045 --> 00:54:10.135
I
00:54:10.242 --> 00:54:18.041
done what I can for this situation now I've got to be, prepare myself for when the doctor's done.
00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:18.670
Mm-hmm.
00:54:20.155 --> 00:54:21.085
That's a good scene.
00:54:22.646 --> 00:54:29.141
he, he treats them with such respect and love and admiration, but still like kids.
00:54:29.262 --> 00:54:36.552
And that to me is such a beautiful balance that I didn't necessarily notice the first few times.
00:54:37.032 --> 00:54:37.362
Um,
00:54:38.304 --> 00:54:38.545
Uh,
00:54:38.856 --> 00:54:40.427
writing for it is great.
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:48.864
Yeah, it's interesting'cause like you mentioned how there was like the love story aspect in between Johnny Depp's character and Kate Winslet's character.
00:54:48.887 --> 00:54:49.177
Yeah.
00:54:49.195 --> 00:54:54.264
This was the first time I watched it that I did not see the romance like before.
00:54:54.655 --> 00:54:57.954
I would've said, yeah, it's a romance.
00:54:58.434 --> 00:55:11.784
But this was the time that like I watched it and honestly, it's not it's him actually just trying to support this single mom and her kids
00:55:12.581 --> 00:55:12.851
Yeah.
00:55:13.195 --> 00:55:15.775
there, there was no cheating or anything.
00:55:15.775 --> 00:55:17.275
It was just him showing up.
00:55:18.222 --> 00:55:18.552
Yeah.
00:55:19.302 --> 00:55:22.331
Um, I can definitely see both sides of the argument.
00:55:22.391 --> 00:55:29.202
It is kind of just accepted that it's a romance, so I did wanna address that there in real life was no romance.
00:55:29.831 --> 00:55:46.842
Um, but yeah, just like I, the way Johnny Depp's character just interacts with people is so mature and amazing for somebody who has such a wild childlike imagination.
00:55:47.322 --> 00:55:47.771
Um.
00:55:49.016 --> 00:55:50.036
The way, right?
00:55:50.036 --> 00:56:00.416
Like, so him and his wife are getting into a fight about Neverland or whatever, or no, it was Kate Winslet or Quick.
00:56:00.416 --> 00:56:06.237
Kate Winslet was like, you were the one who told us to pretend it was always gonna be Okay.
00:56:06.686 --> 00:56:09.266
And he's just like, not always.
00:56:09.896 --> 00:56:17.036
And you feel that like, not always, not just because he's saying don't always just pretend everything's okay.
00:56:17.246 --> 00:56:25.197
But because he showed it time and time again beforehand with how he's able to seriously deal with when these boys are struggling.
00:56:25.737 --> 00:56:32.246
Um, and uh, it's, it's such a beautiful, great movie.
00:56:33.086 --> 00:56:45.237
Um, I truly believe you would be, have to be a robot not to have it hit you like a freaking truck when the mom is dying and he brings in the orchestra.
00:56:45.972 --> 00:56:55.992
The actors and they all are sitting there around like even if they cut out the like believe in fairy scene, which is the heaviest scene.
00:56:56.172 --> 00:57:03.492
Even if you cut that, like I was getting emotional when it just starts, you know?
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And you're just like, oh, So, beautiful life.
00:57:06.882 --> 00:57:16.527
They brought everybody in and it's so cute and their mom gets to see it and gets to go to Neverland and it's so awesome.
00:57:17.815 --> 00:57:33.594
So, uh, I have to say I was watching this like an hour before, uh, recording this and so I knew I was gonna cry during that scene, so I didn't pay attention to that scene'cause I didn't wanna come on here like freshly crying.
00:57:36.072 --> 00:57:38.442
Robot, this robot over here,
00:57:38.605 --> 00:57:40.465
I'm just smart and new to skip that
00:57:40.751 --> 00:57:41.891
jet Inside.
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So good though.
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Yeah.
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Um,
00:57:46.699 --> 00:57:46.920
so
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I said, this is just a, such a good.
00:57:51.822 --> 00:57:52.181
one.
00:57:52.181 --> 00:57:59.952
Every single time I watch it, I'm like, I like you had to grow up a lot faster than I probably should have.
00:58:01.092 --> 00:58:10.092
But I've always had that like desire to want to steal, be childish, and this is the movie that I feel like gives me permission to do.
00:58:10.092 --> 00:58:16.842
So to illustrate how much, so I am quite an awkward person.
00:58:17.112 --> 00:58:32.112
I don't usually do silly things or whatever, and this isn't necessarily like the most outgoing thing I could have done or whatever, but I was watching the show and it was playing Phantom of the Opera music or whatever.
00:58:33.436 --> 00:58:35.621
At the beginning of the credits.
00:58:36.041 --> 00:58:37.992
Uh, I'll talk more about that show next week.
00:58:38.021 --> 00:58:39.672
So if you know what I'm talking about, great.
00:58:39.702 --> 00:58:41.831
If not, oh, you gotta find out.
00:58:42.282 --> 00:58:46.092
Uh, but I just started belting fto, the opera.
00:58:46.452 --> 00:58:48.492
I was just like rocking it.
00:58:48.492 --> 00:58:52.452
And normally if I saw or heard somebody, I'd be like, better shut down.
00:58:52.452 --> 00:58:54.942
I don't wanna irritate them with my voice or whatever.
00:58:55.271 --> 00:58:59.081
But my neighbor went out and got in her car and I was still just like rocking it.
00:58:59.141 --> 00:59:01.601
I was like, I'm killing it today.
00:59:01.811 --> 00:59:07.496
I had just woken up so my voice was a little bit deeper and I could hit those deeper notes and I'm like, I feel good about this.
00:59:09.702 --> 00:59:10.092
So,
00:59:10.130 --> 00:59:11.449
to have been your neighbor at that point.
00:59:12.311 --> 00:59:14.621
um, you're never gonna get to see it.
00:59:14.621 --> 00:59:15.072
Sorry.
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But, uh, you can know that it happened.
00:59:17.621 --> 00:59:23.922
Um, but yeah, it's such such a good.
00:59:23.922 --> 00:59:24.222
movie.
00:59:24.251 --> 00:59:30.371
I am giving it a 9.8 outta 10'cause it's just so like.
00:59:31.211 --> 00:59:33.672
Can you name a better Johnny Depp movie?
00:59:34.032 --> 00:59:38.172
Can you name a better movie that deals with all of these themes?
00:59:38.172 --> 00:59:52.092
So, well, like, I don't know, was it like a month ago I was talking to about something Conlan and I reviewed and I was like, I'm sick of these grief movies, like so many of them.
00:59:52.092 --> 00:59:53.172
Time, time again.
00:59:53.389 --> 00:59:54.449
it was the life of check.
00:59:55.181 --> 00:59:55.692
Yeah.
00:59:56.202 --> 00:59:58.722
Like I'm so sick of these grief movies.
00:59:58.730 --> 00:59:59.250
need grief movies.
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We have finding never left,
01:00:01.661 --> 01:00:03.492
We Exactly.
01:00:03.492 --> 01:00:05.141
There's not a better one.
01:00:05.141 --> 01:00:06.161
It's Perfect.
01:00:06.161 --> 01:00:07.121
It's so good.
01:00:08.231 --> 01:00:10.692
Um, yeah.
01:00:11.291 --> 01:00:13.541
Uh, this movie is honestly so good.
01:00:13.541 --> 01:00:14.981
I could watch it again today.
01:00:14.981 --> 01:00:16.331
I watched it yesterday.
01:00:16.782 --> 01:00:22.121
Like I could very easily be like, yeah, I'll watch that.
01:00:22.811 --> 01:00:23.802
I don't think I will.
01:00:23.981 --> 01:00:25.902
But if somebody were to like, I.
01:00:27.492 --> 01:00:30.942
Come over and be like, I, you just, I wanna watch that movie.
01:00:30.942 --> 01:00:37.692
You were just talking about it, like, yeah, it's a great one.
01:00:38.411 --> 01:00:39.161
Let's watch it.
01:00:39.161 --> 01:00:39.942
It's so good.
01:00:40.061 --> 01:00:40.452
Um,
01:00:40.585 --> 01:00:41.364
I'm ready to cry.
01:00:42.882 --> 01:00:43.871
I'm ready to cry.
01:00:43.871 --> 01:00:47.802
again, but man, tears so they fall down and I suck them back in.
01:00:49.414 --> 01:00:50.614
I was just a single man.
01:00:50.614 --> 01:00:51.909
Terry, you can let go now.
01:00:54.521 --> 01:00:56.561
Well, this one is worth more than one tier.
01:00:56.681 --> 01:00:59.351
Um, it's so good.
01:01:00.222 --> 01:01:06.911
If you have not seen Finding Neverland, get off your butt, right now.
01:01:07.494 --> 01:01:08.664
turn on your tv.
01:01:09.521 --> 01:01:11.862
Well find it wherever it's at.
01:01:11.862 --> 01:01:14.081
You gotta go get it or buy it or rent it.
01:01:14.081 --> 01:01:14.351
Or
01:01:15.085 --> 01:01:15.565
Are you saying they
01:01:15.851 --> 01:01:17.141
Actually don't rent it.
01:01:17.485 --> 01:01:18.144
finding Never.
01:01:18.521 --> 01:01:20.442
it'cause it's so good.
01:01:20.742 --> 01:01:22.271
You'll want to watch it again.
01:01:22.271 --> 01:01:23.081
I guarantee it.
01:01:23.081 --> 01:01:24.581
Don't rent this movie.
01:01:24.851 --> 01:01:25.391
Buy it.
01:01:25.961 --> 01:01:26.322
Um.
01:01:27.552 --> 01:01:28.452
It's so good.
01:01:28.722 --> 01:01:48.911
And the other thing I just wanted to bring up is like, this isn't the only grief movie starring Johnny Depp where he interacts with a child and makes the child feel more childlike and is a really good movie.
01:01:49.481 --> 01:01:55.512
And he is also a pirate in both of these movies.
01:01:56.411 --> 01:02:04.692
And I, it just, I have the pair, you know, the doof thing where it's like, if I had a nickel every time I'd have two nickels.
01:02:04.692 --> 01:02:06.521
But isn't it weird it happened twice.
01:02:07.121 --> 01:02:08.952
Um, that's what I was thinking.
01:02:08.952 --> 01:02:13.967
'cause I, my probably second favorite Johnny Depp movie is Cho Alot
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:15.789
Chocolate.
01:02:16.090 --> 01:02:16.960
Oh, yeah.
01:02:17.137 --> 01:02:17.677
Cho a lot.
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:18.130
okay.
01:02:18.130 --> 01:02:18.670
Yeah.
01:02:18.670 --> 01:02:18.730
Yeah.
01:02:18.791 --> 01:02:19.271
Yeah.
01:02:19.510 --> 01:02:20.139
Um,
01:02:20.442 --> 01:02:22.452
And again, he's a pirate.
01:02:22.811 --> 01:02:25.541
He interacts with the little girl maturely.
01:02:26.306 --> 01:02:27.686
It's so good.
01:02:27.777 --> 01:02:29.786
And he teaches her that.
01:02:29.786 --> 01:02:35.367
like, Hey, even though there's a lot of crap going on you can still be a child and have fun and
01:02:35.900 --> 01:02:36.190
Yeah,
01:02:36.416 --> 01:02:36.987
silly.
01:02:36.987 --> 01:02:43.737
And so again, I was like, man, that should just be Johnny Depp's role in my life.
01:02:43.737 --> 01:02:44.487
'cause like
01:02:44.755 --> 01:02:45.085
be a
01:02:45.177 --> 01:02:47.456
he killed, he does such a good job.
01:02:47.875 --> 01:02:48.264
Yeah.
01:02:48.445 --> 01:02:49.610
I really like Johnny that
01:02:51.447 --> 01:02:56.306
I like him sometimes, but these, these ones always work for me.
01:02:57.327 --> 01:03:02.427
I don't see my life ever going to a point where I'm like, finding never let sucks.
01:03:04.347 --> 01:03:05.336
It's so good.
01:03:05.396 --> 01:03:09.927
Um, if you haven't seen it, go buy it.
01:03:10.677 --> 01:03:14.456
Watch it if you have seen it, but just not in a while.
01:03:16.601 --> 01:03:18.192
Go buy it and watch it.
01:03:18.672 --> 01:03:23.652
If you saw this six months ago, go buy it and watch it.
01:03:23.652 --> 01:03:24.612
It's so good.
01:03:26.052 --> 01:03:27.282
Just watch this movie.
01:03:27.282 --> 01:03:29.592
I cannot recommend this one enough.
01:03:29.592 --> 01:03:34.902
Like it is genuinely a great movie.
01:03:35.994 --> 01:03:36.284
Yeah.
01:03:36.851 --> 01:03:39.371
And, Uh, yeah, that's all I've got to say.
01:03:39.371 --> 01:03:40.601
Any last thoughts on it?
01:03:41.440 --> 01:03:42.130
Uh, nope.
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:43.449
You hit it on the head.
01:03:43.510 --> 01:03:46.570
I also really like finding Neverland.
01:03:46.570 --> 01:03:50.230
I'm kind of mad I haven't watched it since high school.
01:03:51.909 --> 01:04:00.880
I think I've probably watched it once in between high school and now, but like, I remember being, like watching it over and over and over again in high school.
01:04:01.269 --> 01:04:04.869
Um, but yeah, it's very good.
01:04:05.139 --> 01:04:11.380
Um, yeah, uh, this movie, Johnny Depp's great in it.
01:04:12.190 --> 01:04:12.429
also
01:04:12.492 --> 01:04:12.641
Yeah.
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:13.210
young.
01:04:14.351 --> 01:04:14.742
Yeah.
01:04:15.175 --> 01:04:25.255
freaked me out, but, he has such a very, um, like his diction is very satisfying to me in this movie.
01:04:25.481 --> 01:04:25.842
Oh yeah.
01:04:26.891 --> 01:04:27.132
Yeah.
01:04:27.132 --> 01:04:27.492
They do.
01:04:27.492 --> 01:04:32.291
The old time you talk and sometimes that bothers me and that this one it did at all.
01:04:32.382 --> 01:04:36.251
I think every, even the kids do a great job with their dialect, so,
01:04:36.474 --> 01:04:39.864
Speaking of robots, his wife was a robot in this.
01:04:39.864 --> 01:04:44.844
I was like, I've never noticed that in a, I slightly bothered me.
01:04:45.791 --> 01:04:59.652
oh, I've always noticed she was cold and a little bit of a hoe, like the scene where they review, like he catches her with the guy and they're just like, oh, he came to talk to you about X, Y, Z, whatever.
01:04:59.652 --> 01:05:07.731
I was like, oh, uh, but uh, the first time I saw this, I was well out of college, so it was.
01:05:09.041 --> 01:05:09.942
Pretty recently.
01:05:11.411 --> 01:05:16.121
So I guess I'm just was more mature at that time to notice that kind of stuff.
01:05:16.121 --> 01:05:18.942
But it's still good.
01:05:19.275 --> 01:05:19.690
It is still
01:05:19.722 --> 01:05:20.922
It's still very good.
01:05:22.871 --> 01:05:23.141
Okay.
01:05:23.141 --> 01:05:26.771
everybody, thank you so much for watching and or listening.
01:05:26.862 --> 01:05:28.331
I appreciate every single one of you.
01:05:28.722 --> 01:05:35.771
If you have great Johnny Depp movies to recommend, I want to hear your guys' favorites.
01:05:36.222 --> 01:05:46.632
Um, I, even if it's Pirates, I would love to tell you guys why I think the third one's the best and um, yeah, that's what I gotta say.
01:05:46.632 --> 01:05:48.882
Remember to be better today than yesterday.
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Join us next time.
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We're gonna be going over our top 10 books and games.
01:05:54.791 --> 01:05:59.771
Gonna figure out what Lauren thinks and how she breaks down her list.
01:05:59.802 --> 01:06:00.731
I'm excited about it.
01:06:00.731 --> 01:06:01.931
So we'll see you next week.
01:06:01.931 --> 01:06:02.322
Thank you.
01:06:02.652 --> 01:06:02.802
Peace.
01:06:02.802 --> 01:06:02.862
So.
01:06:03.284 --> 01:06:03.574
Okay.