Gamescom Highlights, DLSS 5 ‘Yassification,’ Xbox Disc-to-Digital & Mars Rover with Deck | OTC EP 95

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everybody.
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Welcome to another episode
of Off The Console.
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It's your favorite, uh, show
that's all about news and
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gaming and everything nerdy.
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My name is Garner, and I'm joined
here today by my friends James from
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Games Revealed and High Tech Low Life.
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How are you guys doing today?
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I'm quite all right.
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How about you?
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good
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I'm doing great.
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Doing great.
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Doing great.
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Um, we have a bunch of awesome stuff
that we're gonna be talking about today.
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We have some news from Gamescom.
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Where are my notes?
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We have, uh, we have, uh, NVIDIA's
controversial DLSS 5, uh, stuff.
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We have Xbox also joining the,
uh, you'll own nothing and be
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happy camp, and a whole lot more.
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So, uh, yeah, I think, uh, don't know.
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We like to start the show off with,
uh, what we've been doing this week.
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So, uh, Hi Tech, let's start with you.
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What have you been up to this week?
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Work, Steam Machine stuff, not a
whole lot of video editing, but… Oh
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yeah, I have, I have put some videos
on Bilibili, 'cause I'm a filthy,
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I'm a filthy China stan it seems.
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So w- I think, we, I don't, I don't
think we ta- I don't, I think you were,
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uh, I think you were gone that week.
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Were you?
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When…
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week, yeah.
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Yeah, we talked about
Bilibili going international
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Yeah.
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How's your experience been?
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Or are you saving that?
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Uh, I think we'll save that for
another day since I'm still new.
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I'm just uploading my, some, some of my
back catalog there for the time being
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James, how about you?
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What have you been up to?
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This week has been a crazy week.
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Uh, we had a big hack at work, so patching
a bunch of holes there, uh, related
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to what I'm really, uh, what I have.
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It's from an old system that they
had that they didn't sunset, so I'm
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not gonna go too deep into that.
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But that's, uh, oh, pretty much
work and, uh, I don't even know
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if I played any games this week.
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I'm sure I played something, but, um,
no, I j- I just can't … I, I worked
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on, uh, a game I'm working on, which
doesn't help that we went over the
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cost, like how much game developers on
average make and median, uh, price on
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their, uh, what they make in the bonus
episode, so people can go watch that.
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That was fascinating and a little sad.
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And we kinda knew that people that release
games a lot oftentimes, but I'm working
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on, I, I, I work on like a game or two.
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Every o- like, and I, I'm not
like full-time on it, and that's
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one of the reasons is because of
this type of stuff where they just
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don't … Like, it, it's discouraging.
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So I do it for more of the
passion side of things.
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So I, I did work on some game
development stuff for one of
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my games, and it was, it's fun.
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It's a really fun, practice that
helps when you have stress at work
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Mm-hmm.
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absolutely.
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The, the, you know, you've been
doing your game development.
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I've been working on a game too for The
Bryant Review, um, because the ROI of
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putting a year of development into a
game on Steam just wasn't there for me.
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Those, those numbers we talked about
in the bonus episode were really
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spooky accurate for, for my game, so,
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Yeah
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I'm working on, on this little game
here, and I am really excited about it.
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This isn't live yet.
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This is just my testing area.
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But, like, oh boy, it's basically hangman.
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Um, but it's a lot of fun, and I'm,
I'm working on, like, some power-ups
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that you can get on a puzzle to, like,
unlock the vowels that are available.
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it's, it's pretty neat.
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I have some other ideas on, on how I
wanna, like, spice up the gameplay.
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But Yeah
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uh, I've put a lot of time into the game
and also into the puzzle editor that I've
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developed to let me, like, make puzzles.
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Um, it's, it's very exciting.
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but I… And because of that, I haven't
been posting a ton to, uh, to the Review,
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but we're, uh, we'll get back to that
next week 'cause it is almost done, I
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think, so… Or, or at least the beta is.
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So yeah, With that said, if you guys
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Uh,
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honestly, if you go to offconsole.com
you'll, you'll find everything there.
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right, offtheconsole.com.
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And
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we also have a Discord server
too, so yeah, pretty neat stuff.
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Um, let's, let's get into
the first topic today.
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We have, uh, we have Gamescom here.
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Um, what, what's going on with Gamescom?
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Oh shit, have I been
muted this whole time?
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I've been telling you to tell
James to solve the puzzle
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Oh.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Sorry.
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Do you want
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but that,
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the puzzle?
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uh, maybe, maybe we'll do that
afterwards, but let's talk about Gamescom.
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So Gamescom, for those that don't know,
is the, uh, expo that happens in Europe.
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It's, uh, I think it's held in
Germany, if I'm not mistaken.
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But essentially it's like
E3 or Tokyo Game Show.
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It's the European version of those two.
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And there were a bunch of
announcements and also trailers too.
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Like for example, they're remastering
The Witcher 3 again, and this time
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it's free for anyone that already
owns it on PC, which is nice.
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Also includes Steam too.
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Uh, they also announced, uh, they
also showed off a new trailer
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for Mega Man D- Dual Override.
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I'm picking that game up day one.
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I know you guys don't, I know you
guys don't like Mega Man, but I do
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I have no animosity towards Mega Man.
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I've just never played a Mega Man game.
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Not really my speed, I don't think
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All right, let's take
a vote right now, guys.
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Should we get Gardner to try out Mega Man?
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Yes
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in the comments.
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I'll hook you up with some good, I'll hook
you up with some good recommendations.
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Trust, trust me
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I mean, th- I like 2D, 2D
platformers, but, uh, know, it
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seems like the tough-as-nails
ones are not really my speed, but
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I think you'd like Mega
Man X on the Super Nintendo
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I have a Super Nintendo, so maybe
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Yeah, and then they announced, uh,
hon- honestly, I'm not sure that
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they really announced a whole lot
new aside from just updates and shit.
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Oh, there's the Indie Arena Booth.
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There's just trailers.
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What, what's, what effect
are you talking about?
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So when you mouse over the, the, uh,
the key art, it's like, it like almost
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has like a holographic look to it
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like it
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wob- like it wobbles a little bit?
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Yeah, that is pretty cool
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floating effect.
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we, did you mention the Witcher 3 thing?
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Sorry, I was doing your puzzle, and so
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Oh, you, oh, he did it.
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Did you, did you successfully do it?
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I was doing really well and then I
don't know if I've heard of Donkey K-
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or of Conquest or whatever it's called.
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Oh,
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the,
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Donkey
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was the
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Kong Quest
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Quest got me off 'cause
I just didn't know that.
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But like I was doing well.
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I did 100% up until I got to Quest.
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I'm like, "I don't know what this is."
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the name of the second
Donkey Kong Country.
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Diddy's, Diddy's Conquest
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Yeah, so I don't think I ever as a
kid thought about the second part.
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I I played it
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So, I mean, there's a lot of games that
seem, were seemingly announced here.
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Some, a lot of indies are
more towards the bottom.
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Mm-hmm.
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And Geoff Keighley hosted a live
stream as well, uh, even though this
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isn't one of his shows technically
speaking But the general consensus
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seems to be that it's Gamescom.
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I mean, it is what it is
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I'm excited about
Thomas & Friends: Wonders of
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What?
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Sodor.
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Thomas & Friends: Wonders of Sodor?
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You
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Thomas & Friends is like the original
uncanny valley shit that goes on.
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I, I can't do it.
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My kid got into it forever
and it was so creepy.
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So I will say out of the
Gamescom, I haven't watched all
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the trailers for everything.
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I just watched little snippets
'cause I was so busy this week with
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Yeah, I'm, I'm not gonna lie, I didn't
really d- I didn't really do that either
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3 though, and, uh, Control:
Resonant, mm, I'm gonna say it
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right now, those both looked…
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Like the remaster looks
awesome for Witcher 3.
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It's coming free, it's
looking pretty good.
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But Control: Resonant is looking so
good, and it comes out in a couple weeks
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I wanna get both.
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Well, I wanna get Resi- I
wanna get Control, Resi.
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You know, I'm not super big
on Witcher 3's gameplay.
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This is gonna sound like a hot take.
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It just feels like a worse Dark Soul
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The worst Dark Souls is a
harsh take, uh, but okay.
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Dude, it's, it's true.
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It, it feels worse.
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Like, I'm sorry, I know the, I know
the story and stuff is really what, why
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people play, but like, if the gameplay
is ass, then why should I even bother?
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But it's not as…
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with you more, High Tech.
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I
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Oh,
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those kind of games, Witcher and, um, Dark
Souls and all that stuff, where the, where
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the, like, third person, like, control i-
and it feels like you're walking through
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mud most of the time, like, just slow,
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whoa, hold on now
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Dude, I can't.
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I can't play those
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games.
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I'm, like, so
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had me until you said Dark Souls.
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Man, I like, I love Dark Souls
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I agree with you.
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Dark Souls controls like shit.
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I'm just kidding
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so… They all control like ass.
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Like, move- It literally feels like
the character is wading through mud.
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I'm
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They
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me Mario 64 or give me
death, man." Like, I
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Well, you can't do that.
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So
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Wow
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you can't do that with W- so Witcher
and Dark Souls, they have that weighted
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system for a reason to make it feel
unique and a little bit more r- lifelike.
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You can't be bouncing arou- around
like a Italian plumber all day long,
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but… Now, they're gonna improve
the gameplay on Witcher 3 though.
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Like, that's what, one of the things
they're saying, which I hope so, 'cause
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don't get me wrong, you get used to
it after the first 10, 20 hours, but
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it could be definitely much better
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I think in terms of s-
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hours.
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in terms of CDPR's g- uh, games,
I do think Cyberpunk has much
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better gameplay than The Witcher 3
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shooter.
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It's really hard to get that wrong.
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I, uh, you can, don't get me wrong,
get that wrong, but it's, it's not
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gonna run into the same issues as
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mean,
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will
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have 15 years to get it right?
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Did they make FPSs great again?
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No.
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That, that, oh no, that's gonna
be one of our catchphrases.
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been bad.
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That's the stupid part, is
that they've never been bad
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Not according to, uh, Mr.
Splitgate himself, but
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yeah
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he's wrong though.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Uh, they're still, like, some
of the top-selling genres,
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and we talked about that too.
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Ooh, Dragon's Dogma II: Dark
Arisen, the DLC's coming out.
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I like that game too
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Did
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This…
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did
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Huh?
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Control, HiTech?
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Did you play Control and beat it?
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Talking about Control Residence
now, like, if you beat the original
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I don't know if I have, but I
didn't play it on PC though.
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You didn't?
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No, 'cause I didn't have a gaming PC
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Yeah, yeah,
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at around that time
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that's fine.
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Control Resonance is gonna…
it's, they're so story heavy
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it, it l- it's gonna be a
different type of style, I think.
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Uh, it's gonna be more of, um,
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Like a hack and, like some,
like a hack and slash.
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I saw
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yeah, uh, more so than what
the original Control was.
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But the story's probably gonna
be important to, to at least get
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through a good chunk of Control One
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Well, the good news is I do have the
Ultimate Edition on PC, so I can… I'm
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g- probably gonna have to start over.
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I'll do it.
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I'll do it on my Steam Machine
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l- I love Control, and it's in
the same universe as Alan Wake.
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Those are, like, top-tier games for me
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Oh yeah, Metal Gear Solid, uh, the Master
Collection 2 came out on PC and other pl-
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platforms, and there are some references
to like the PS5- the PS3's, uh, Blu-ray
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discs, and they've updated that reference.
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They had Otacon's, uh, voice actor
re- con- re-record lines depending
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on what platform you're on.
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I haven't heard the PC line though
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That's good.
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At least they updated that 'cause
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Yeah, 'cause imagine if they said, yeah,
imagine if they, uh, said, "Oh, you're
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playing on a PS3," and then you're
playing, like, the Xbox version Oh, well.
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That would've been kind of funny.
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But, I mean, Gamescom is Gamescom.
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There are some games that are
interesting, but… What is that
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this is Carpark Capital by MicroProse,
dude This is actually, this,
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the, m- you remember MicroProse?
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I didn't know that they
were still publishing
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The ones that made Micro Machines?
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No, MicroProse.
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The, they, uh,
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Oh
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used to make, like, dude, they
published, like, X-COM and, like,
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Yeah
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uh, a bunch of, like, those
old, like, old PC games.
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I think they did, uh… Was, did
they do Rollercoaster Tycoon, or no?
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That was just Atari.
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I don't know.
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But MicroProse, they were, like, some
of my favorite games back in the day.
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Theme Hospital they might have done.
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But anyway, look at this.
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This game actually looks like a
little bit of, uh, satire and, uh,
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political commentary about cars.
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I would hope, anyway.
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Gardner has a lot of opinions
on cars, let's just say.
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If you haven't watched
the previous episodes,
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Oh my
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I would sug- I would
suggest watching those
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Dude,
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We
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you don't… Yeah, it does look… Oh,
nothing, I was gonna make a stupid joke.
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This looks, this does look pretty fun
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yeah.
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It does.
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It,
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fun It, but my pro- my problem with
these styles, unless they really
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upgrade the gameplay really well,
I think I'd rather go back and
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play the classics that look similar
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I mean, they might have.
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We, I mean, the game's not out yet, right?
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But the whole point of the trailer is to
showcase if it is different or not, right?
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It d- it definitely looks like it, it's
better gameplay, but it feels so similar
343
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to that, it makes me just wanna go back
and play, like, Rollercoaster Tycoon
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Yeah.
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Oh yeah, it's definitely, for the
audio listeners, it's definitely
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R- RCT inspired or like Transport
Tycoon or something like that.
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It kinda looks like Theme
Hospital, like not gonna
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Yeah
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Yeah
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Just
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Mm
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This has
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know, did you
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gotta be a play on the
oil industry, but yeah
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look, there's a Ferris wheel for cars.
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Like, that's amazing actually.
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Ah, don't give him ideas, man
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Uh, yeah
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Damn
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I
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Sounds like you're th-
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bonus one, but it reminds me of Buc-ee's.
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Buc-ee's just announced that they're only
gonna be in red states now, which is so
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Bucky?
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Good, they can keep
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No.
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Yep
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Holy fuck
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in my state, and my state's
technically a blue state
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Yeah, but that's now is
what they're focusing on
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Well, yeah, that's true.
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That's true
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So it's interesting,
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Well, that sucks.
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Uh, Buck- Buc-ee's is
actually really nice.
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Buc-ee's is really nice.
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They have really nice bathrooms,
and, like, the food there
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is pretty good actually.
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And it's not even just
good for gas station food.
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I mean, it's, like,
actually pretty good food
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Yeah.
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but
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it out when it comes here
because, you know, Utah.
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Yeah.
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00:16:21,086 --> 00:16:22,056
Whoa, what the hell?
386
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What?
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It says low frame rate detected
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yeah, sorry, I just, it just started
playing the audio for the trailer here.
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I just added it to my Steam wishlist
'cause it actually looks pretty fun.
390
00:16:34,777 --> 00:16:37,217
the more we talk about it, the
more and more you wanna try it now?
391
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well, I, I'm hoping that it's,
uh, what I want it to be.
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Oh my gosh.
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Also MicroProse, what el- what was the
game, like the big game that I remember?
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But anyway, yeah.
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Dude, so Gamescom, pretty cool.
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Um, we, uh, also the other, the other
thing we, we didn't add to the list, but,
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uh, GTA VI trailer, um, did you, you guys
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It came, yeah, I, I, I
watched, I like skipped around.
399
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I skipped to the part… I skipped
all of the, like, life stuff, 'cause
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I don't really care about that.
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But I wanted to get to, like, the
actual fun parts, the doing crime part
402
00:17:16,190 --> 00:17:16,340
Yeah
403
00:17:17,442 --> 00:17:22,532
Dude, no one plays… No one's
playing GTA to, like, live a life sim.
404
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:23,562
That sounds stupid.
405
00:17:25,422 --> 00:17:25,792
Right?
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Like,
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the only one.
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Like,
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I'm All right.
410
00:17:28,982 --> 00:17:31,572
Well, you're stupid.
411
00:17:31,862 --> 00:17:32,412
Just kidding.
412
00:17:33,223 --> 00:17:33,503
Geez.
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00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:36,243
I use it the, I use it as a
sandbox game more than anything.
414
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I play around, I like go
415
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and, and screw around.
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I don't play the story
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00:17:42,318 --> 00:17:45,028
HiTech, if you're not playing it
for the life sim, then why are
418
00:17:45,028 --> 00:17:46,908
you even logging onto GTA Online?
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Come on
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To kill everyone else.
421
00:17:49,873 --> 00:17:50,823
Exactly
422
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Uh, dude,
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not life
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I, I might be crazy, but like GTA
is one of those games that like I
425
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don't feel like it… First of all,
I don't feel like it has meaningfully
426
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evolved since like San Andreas.
427
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but also like it's one of those
games that I put in the category of
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like wading through mud simulator.
429
00:18:13,252 --> 00:18:15,022
Like it's so slow.
430
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Like just I want my character to
move like, and have, uh, be fun.
431
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I don't wanna… know, dude
432
00:18:21,620 --> 00:18:22,150
on now.
433
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:25,350
When you put it in that category,
you're also comparing to Dark Souls.
434
00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,190
There's no way you just
compared GTA VI to-
435
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I'm talking like controls.
436
00:18:30,946 --> 00:18:31,866
I'm comparing them.
437
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Like Tomb Raider is like one of the only
third person games that's come out within
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the last like 10 years that controls
well, and even then it's kinda slow.
439
00:18:41,226 --> 00:18:44,496
Like I'm talking, like even, um,
what's the one that everybody
440
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loves from Naughty Dog?
441
00:18:45,706 --> 00:18:46,466
The Last of Us?
442
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That's so slow, dude.
443
00:18:47,846 --> 00:18:49,936
Moving in that game feels so boring.
444
00:18:50,836 --> 00:18:51,026
I don't
445
00:18:51,038 --> 00:18:51,528
True that.
446
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True that
447
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Oh my gosh.
448
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It's
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Well
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that way, and that's okay if
that's not your type of game.
451
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It's, it's fine, but it's meant to feel
like there's weight to decisions, to what
452
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you're doing, to… Like, you get, you
get accustomed to it over time a- and
453
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get used to it to where you can react.
454
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It's just, it really comes down to
you gotta get used to it, though.
455
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It it's like
456
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that's fair
457
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They're, They're, the, I think they're
more controller games, I should say.
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'Cause I,
459
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Yeah
460
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I mean, you're probably playing
these on controller, right, though?
461
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I, Yeah, I only play with a controller.
462
00:19:23,368 --> 00:19:24,848
I don't like playing on PC
463
00:19:24,994 --> 00:19:28,564
Yeah, 'cause Dark Souls on PC,
like keyboard and mouse is ass.
464
00:19:28,844 --> 00:19:31,024
You should never be playing Dark
S- you should never play Dark
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Souls with a keyboard and mouse
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Challenge accepted
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I feel like d- if your character…
The, I think the disconnect for me
468
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is, like, you can move this, the, the
s- the camera really quickly, but you
469
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can't move your character as quickly.
470
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So they can turn on a dime, but
they can't, like, move at, like,
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in a speed that that feels like
it should necessitate, and that's,
472
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that's the issue I have with it.
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I
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That's fair enough.
475
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Ooh
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I could, I could go on a
diatribe about that, but yeah.
477
00:20:04,258 --> 00:20:04,324
Ooh, dark.
478
00:20:04,324 --> 00:20:04,390
Let's see
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what, got here.
480
00:20:04,588 --> 00:20:09,668
There's a lot, there are a lot of
games I'm probably missing 'cause,
481
00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:12,938
like, there's just so many games on
this thing that I'm just kinda glazing
482
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my eyes over every, all of them
483
00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:16,120
Yeah, I just keep scrolling.
484
00:20:16,140 --> 00:20:21,910
There's a ton of games on here, and,
uh, as we talked about in the, um, in
485
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the bonus show, lot of these games are
only gonna make about a 3,000 bucks on
486
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,520
Steam, so, uh, that's, you know, that
487
00:20:31,661 --> 00:20:37,351
these because of way that they were
getting, um, advertised here, it
488
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will probably help them, but yeah,
they're not gonna make a whole lot
489
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Yeah.
490
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man.
491
00:20:41,662 --> 00:20:45,072
I mean, it seems like it's just a matter
of how much marketing you're willing to do
492
00:20:46,072 --> 00:20:50,212
' Cause like all the big studio, all the big
studios have a lot of marketing budget.
493
00:20:51,272 --> 00:20:53,132
Probably because there's
so many games on Steam
494
00:20:54,011 --> 00:20:56,651
half of these are anime ones
too, which is interesting.
495
00:20:57,451 --> 00:21:00,931
there's a lot of anime based
ones or at least a- like heavy
496
00:21:00,951 --> 00:21:03,311
anime or animation influenced
497
00:21:03,642 --> 00:21:04,052
Yeah.
498
00:21:04,771 --> 00:21:05,421
styles
499
00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:10,342
games or visual novels, they stand to
make the most, uh, revenue on Steam.
500
00:21:10,492 --> 00:21:10,792
But
501
00:21:12,184 --> 00:21:14,574
There's at least one visual novel, so
502
00:21:15,222 --> 00:21:15,652
Yeah.
503
00:21:15,654 --> 00:21:17,374
that's gonna make, that's
gonna make game be-
504
00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:18,841
The Expanse
505
00:21:19,032 --> 00:21:22,732
I've, uh, I've scrolled so much
that it's starting to repeat.
506
00:21:22,872 --> 00:21:26,962
Like, it's just an endless scroll,
and it's repeating over and over
507
00:21:27,203 --> 00:21:27,843
already out?
508
00:21:29,658 --> 00:21:30,088
Is it?
509
00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:31,525
Interesting.
510
00:21:31,975 --> 00:21:33,045
Yeah, 007's already out.
511
00:21:33,045 --> 00:21:34,325
It's been out for, like, two months
512
00:21:35,834 --> 00:21:37,564
I think there's an update
because they're coming out with
513
00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:39,104
a new, like, story expansion.
514
00:21:41,014 --> 00:21:43,154
It's supposed to feature
Lenny Kravitz's character
515
00:21:44,154 --> 00:21:44,764
Interesting
516
00:21:44,943 --> 00:21:46,143
to… I, I'll play it one day.
517
00:21:46,203 --> 00:21:48,113
Like, I've heard really
good things about it.
518
00:21:48,193 --> 00:21:49,073
I just, I
519
00:21:49,273 --> 00:21:50,003
It is really good.
520
00:21:50,043 --> 00:21:50,243
It
521
00:21:51,443 --> 00:21:51,793
Yeah
522
00:21:52,212 --> 00:22:00,832
uh, if it has, uh, DLSS 5, it could have
Yassified, uh, DL- uh, Lenny Kravitz in it
523
00:22:02,105 --> 00:22:04,295
It could have Yassified, Lennon Kravitz.
524
00:22:04,335 --> 00:22:07,845
Look, there's, there's DLSS Cloud Strife.
525
00:22:08,515 --> 00:22:08,985
Ugh.
526
00:22:09,136 --> 00:22:09,736
God.
527
00:22:10,076 --> 00:22:10,606
Yeah
528
00:22:10,775 --> 00:22:12,835
know what, you know what
Cloud Strife looks like.
529
00:22:12,845 --> 00:22:16,255
He's like a traditional, like,
kind of pretty boyish vibe.
530
00:22:16,255 --> 00:22:17,045
This is just
531
00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:18,295
This
532
00:22:18,302 --> 00:22:18,722
Bro.
533
00:22:18,792 --> 00:22:19,212
turning a
534
00:22:19,222 --> 00:22:19,422
On
535
00:22:19,452 --> 00:22:20,402
boy into a femboy
536
00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:23,865
There, it, it's unsettling.
537
00:22:23,865 --> 00:22:25,485
It doesn't, it doesn't
even look like a femboy
538
00:22:25,485 --> 00:22:25,795
to me.
539
00:22:25,795 --> 00:22:28,575
He looks like, uh, I don't even know.
540
00:22:29,355 --> 00:22:30,915
It just looks wrong.
541
00:22:32,125 --> 00:22:33,555
Okay, I'll give you that.
542
00:22:33,753 --> 00:22:37,163
there are comparison p- there are
comparisons down below in that article.
543
00:22:37,174 --> 00:22:37,394
me.
544
00:22:37,394 --> 00:22:37,424
That's just me
545
00:22:38,853 --> 00:22:40,223
A lot more comparisons.
546
00:22:41,463 --> 00:22:42,013
There's
547
00:22:42,493 --> 00:22:42,733
In the
548
00:22:42,954 --> 00:22:45,874
this… So I will say this
549
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:48,269
Holy, look, it's Control.
550
00:22:48,716 --> 00:22:49,136
Yeah
551
00:22:50,849 --> 00:22:53,679
Dude, what is… Dude, no fucking way
552
00:22:54,048 --> 00:22:54,338
that's a
553
00:22:54,431 --> 00:22:56,771
they shut off, like, tress
effects or something?
554
00:22:56,771 --> 00:22:58,471
'Cause this hair looks like dog shit
555
00:22:59,471 --> 00:23:00,571
I don't fucking know
556
00:23:00,995 --> 00:23:01,115
Uh,
557
00:23:02,792 --> 00:23:03,102
I
558
00:23:03,165 --> 00:23:09,815
don't, I honestly… Here's my take on
DLSS 5, is that it is, are u- doing the m-
559
00:23:09,845 --> 00:23:13,545
like, you can crank it up all the way and
you're gonna get the more yes-ified looks.
560
00:23:13,605 --> 00:23:17,195
I've looked at a lot that
don't crank it up that high.
561
00:23:17,435 --> 00:23:22,945
So think these are kinda designed to,
for outrage when, don't get me wrong,
562
00:23:22,955 --> 00:23:27,925
there is outrage from it, but I don't…
These are just cranked all the way up
563
00:23:28,925 --> 00:23:29,655
I agree, man.
564
00:23:29,665 --> 00:23:30,995
It's some bullshit.
565
00:23:31,965 --> 00:23:36,685
So I ha- I think I've seen, uh, cases
where they like will re- compare low…
566
00:23:36,985 --> 00:23:38,925
All right, so I think I get the rationale.
567
00:23:38,925 --> 00:23:42,615
They're trying to set the graphics
to low and let DLSS do all the work,
568
00:23:42,625 --> 00:23:44,855
'cause that's basic- Like, there's
no point in running a game at a
569
00:23:44,855 --> 00:23:47,845
high graphical detail when DLSS is
just gonna do everything, right?
570
00:23:48,671 --> 00:23:48,771
I
571
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:49,488
Yeah
572
00:23:49,491 --> 00:23:49,851
Yeah
573
00:23:51,829 --> 00:23:52,879
Dude, what the fuck?
574
00:23:53,191 --> 00:23:54,771
interesting, but like
575
00:23:56,469 --> 00:24:02,409
So to be clear though, DLSS
5 is not officially released.
576
00:24:02,409 --> 00:24:10,309
DLSS 5 was actually leaked as
part of, uh, NBA 2K, uh, 2K27.
577
00:24:10,439 --> 00:24:14,759
You know, slop- the slop
machine inside the slop game
578
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,440
They had to add something new to the game.
579
00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:20,710
They're like, "What could we do? Oh,
we could just add, patch in DLSS 5 and
580
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:22,070
that's it. That's all we'll do to it."
581
00:24:22,325 --> 00:24:27,385
Yeah, patching DLSS 5 to make the, uh,
to make the basketball, uh, players
582
00:24:27,385 --> 00:24:29,245
look more like their real-life selves
583
00:24:30,245 --> 00:24:31,805
Heaven forbid they update a model one year
584
00:24:32,805 --> 00:24:35,685
So the, the manual tweaking you have
to do, there's an ungodly amount
585
00:24:35,685 --> 00:24:40,755
of manual tweaking you have to do
to make it look a certain way, and
586
00:24:40,755 --> 00:24:42,495
it lo- it still looks really off.
587
00:24:43,235 --> 00:24:43,825
It actually, yeah-
588
00:24:44,029 --> 00:24:44,989
very strange.
589
00:24:46,829 --> 00:24:50,359
I mean, it looks very much like, you
know, those AI filter- like those AI
590
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,639
ads that you've probably seen on YouTube
591
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:54,509
Yes And there's
592
00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:55,744
Stuff about what I don't like
593
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:57,949
like
594
00:24:58,049 --> 00:25:01,919
the, the, the AI mocap weird combination.
595
00:25:01,929 --> 00:25:05,799
Like I've always found motion
capture to be like kind of strange
596
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:07,249
and off-putting and hard to watch.
597
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:12,329
And then you combine that with
like the AI filter over top of
598
00:25:12,329 --> 00:25:14,039
it and it's like, yikes dude.
599
00:25:15,389 --> 00:25:18,499
It makes me feel like I'm watching
The Backyardigans or something.
600
00:25:18,709 --> 00:25:18,739
Like
601
00:25:19,793 --> 00:25:23,433
Yeah, notice how none of these videos
are like them in combat at all?
602
00:25:23,533 --> 00:25:25,843
They're all just like
walking around doing shit
603
00:25:27,051 --> 00:25:27,421
Yeah
604
00:25:28,111 --> 00:25:33,861
I'd be one to b- like, there's also an
example of Monster Hunter Wilds, um,
605
00:25:33,871 --> 00:25:39,841
Monster Hunter Rise down below in the
article too, and it, it looks kinda
606
00:25:40,551 --> 00:25:42,721
unsettling too, to, to say the least.
607
00:25:42,731 --> 00:25:42,751
At
608
00:25:43,215 --> 00:25:43,715
Where is that?
609
00:25:44,661 --> 00:25:45,691
the very bottom
610
00:25:45,885 --> 00:25:46,925
age restricted here
611
00:25:47,993 --> 00:25:49,973
Well, no, there's one at
the, like, bottom bottom.
612
00:25:51,183 --> 00:25:54,573
It's a Twitter thread, but… Oh.
613
00:25:56,273 --> 00:25:57,143
Oh, that's weird.
614
00:25:57,153 --> 00:25:57,633
It's gone.
615
00:25:58,049 --> 00:25:58,289
It's
616
00:25:58,593 --> 00:25:59,743
I guess, yeah
617
00:26:00,299 --> 00:26:04,859
I think I have an extension that blocks,
um, em- Twitter embeds or something.
618
00:26:06,299 --> 00:26:07,769
Where's the music?
619
00:26:08,769 --> 00:26:10,179
So the…
620
00:26:11,466 --> 00:26:11,646
Great
621
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,839
I think the results happened,
like, toward… I don't know.
622
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:18,479
There, there's a lot of sh-
the… I… That… Oh, no.
623
00:26:18,489 --> 00:26:21,149
What the… No, no, don't do that.
624
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,699
People are saying this is a
good thing, and, like, from what
625
00:26:25,699 --> 00:26:27,689
I've seen, it looks terrible.
626
00:26:27,879 --> 00:26:32,739
And from what I can gather, they don't
even try this in, like, actual gameplay.
627
00:26:33,409 --> 00:26:36,469
I'm willing to bet this breaks even
harder when you're, like, fighting
628
00:26:37,658 --> 00:26:38,378
Well, one
629
00:26:38,378 --> 00:26:38,628
thing I
630
00:26:38,657 --> 00:26:41,947
it pro- it, it probably can,
but like you've noticed, like
631
00:26:41,947 --> 00:26:43,237
they maximize everything.
632
00:26:43,237 --> 00:26:47,227
So like this is really not
showing a good picture of DLSS 5.
633
00:26:47,267 --> 00:26:51,457
I don't like it whe- like we can have
fun and like blow it out of proportion,
634
00:26:51,457 --> 00:26:55,627
whatever, but it's not being honest
though, like a lot of the stuff I've seen.
635
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:59,447
'Cause I've seen, I've seen before and
after where I'm like it's much more
636
00:26:59,447 --> 00:27:03,197
like base but still makes it look nicer.
637
00:27:03,547 --> 00:27:07,177
It just helps with shadows and stuff
like that, and it doesn't look uncanny.
638
00:27:07,407 --> 00:27:08,247
So this is…
639
00:27:09,392 --> 00:27:09,732
Dude,
640
00:27:09,897 --> 00:27:10,567
I don't know.
641
00:27:10,797 --> 00:27:12,167
We gotta be caref- I don't know.
642
00:27:12,287 --> 00:27:12,537
Yeah.
643
00:27:12,877 --> 00:27:13,077
Sorry
644
00:27:13,488 --> 00:27:16,888
This comment, "It's crazy they're
adding an art style remover."
645
00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:22,977
Uh, what, w- which really begs the
question though, what would happen
646
00:27:22,977 --> 00:27:27,397
in like a photorealistic game if you
were to enable DLSS 5 and then like
647
00:27:27,597 --> 00:27:29,257
the game has like gore or some shit?
648
00:27:30,967 --> 00:27:32,237
What would happen there?
649
00:27:33,368 --> 00:27:35,698
Well, that's a good question.
650
00:27:37,737 --> 00:27:39,167
'
Cause like in Cyberpunk you can…
651
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:40,185
made… Yeah
652
00:27:41,007 --> 00:27:43,247
Like in Cyberpunk you can
like dismember and like blow
653
00:27:43,247 --> 00:27:44,597
people's heads off and stuff.
654
00:27:45,437 --> 00:27:46,127
So like
655
00:27:46,369 --> 00:27:46,509
Mm-hmm
656
00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:50,417
what would happen if it,
you DLSS 5'd the gore?
657
00:27:51,067 --> 00:27:54,727
Would it like pull trained
images of like… That's
658
00:27:54,727 --> 00:27:56,027
fucked up to think about really
659
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:57,650
Ja
660
00:27:58,650 --> 00:27:59,720
Well, I just killed the
661
00:28:02,116 --> 00:28:02,696
Whoa, which one?
662
00:28:02,696 --> 00:28:03,006
Both?
663
00:28:05,766 --> 00:28:06,496
That's a good one.
664
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:12,606
Um, yeah, I mean, so one thing I noticed
here, like I wanna pull this one back up
665
00:28:12,616 --> 00:28:14,156
'cause I think that this is important.
666
00:28:14,896 --> 00:28:18,826
Um, when they walk through this,
um, when they walk through the…
667
00:28:19,136 --> 00:28:20,696
Oh, I think it's earlier here.
668
00:28:21,376 --> 00:28:25,826
were walking through the, uh,
like the f- water fountain area.
669
00:28:25,836 --> 00:28:27,776
I think it's before this.
670
00:28:27,786 --> 00:28:28,316
Where is it?
671
00:28:30,176 --> 00:28:31,076
Gosh darn it.
672
00:28:31,116 --> 00:28:31,926
I noticed
673
00:28:34,118 --> 00:28:38,288
Okay, watch the butterfly as
they walk through this area.
674
00:28:39,288 --> 00:28:39,518
Come on.
675
00:28:39,648 --> 00:28:40,248
Where is it?
676
00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:44,268
I- it's showing a pretty low
frame rate for us, so we may
677
00:28:44,304 --> 00:28:44,604
Oh.
678
00:28:44,913 --> 00:28:45,403
Yeah
679
00:28:45,614 --> 00:28:48,894
there, there's a butterfly here that
keeps, like, flickering in and out, and
680
00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:52,494
it's like b- and it, there's like…
It, it's like going one frame and then
681
00:28:52,494 --> 00:28:56,484
the next, and there's, it's not, like,
interpreting the motion of the butterfly.
682
00:28:56,964 --> 00:29:01,674
Uh, like, that's the kind of stuff
that I can't, like… I notice.
683
00:29:01,684 --> 00:29:03,824
It jumps out at me immediately,
takes me right out.
684
00:29:04,114 --> 00:29:07,184
And there's probably ways that you
can adjust that, but, like, that's
685
00:29:07,184 --> 00:29:11,344
the kind of stuff that I just can't
do, even with, like, normal DS- DLSS.
686
00:29:12,104 --> 00:29:16,734
like, that kind of fine detail that
gets lost just, I can't handle it
687
00:29:18,427 --> 00:29:22,277
When it comes to that type of stuff,
I've not had issues with missing assets
688
00:29:22,407 --> 00:29:25,567
coming into play, even with FSR and DLSS.
689
00:29:25,587 --> 00:29:30,207
But could, uh, well, frame
gen can cause that, I'm sure.
690
00:29:30,247 --> 00:29:32,497
I just haven't played a
game where that's happened.
691
00:29:32,607 --> 00:29:39,117
But I don't, I don't increase DLSS or FSR
high enough to probably have that happen
692
00:29:39,426 --> 00:29:40,606
Gardner, uh,
693
00:29:40,664 --> 00:29:40,974
Hmm.
694
00:29:41,656 --> 00:29:43,906
I just found another
example that you can show.
695
00:29:43,906 --> 00:29:46,596
It's probably the most
egregious example I've seen
696
00:29:47,835 --> 00:29:53,895
I mean, sorry, I'm being very, like, all
these are just extreme examples of DLSS 5.
697
00:29:53,905 --> 00:29:59,825
Like, this is not… Like, this, this
is fun, but, like, this is not what
698
00:29:59,825 --> 00:30:01,265
it's gonna probably end up being like
699
00:30:02,248 --> 00:30:03,088
Dude, this
700
00:30:03,268 --> 00:30:04,298
my girl Tifa
701
00:30:05,148 --> 00:30:08,108
this reminds me of the Final
Fantasy animated movie.
702
00:30:08,258 --> 00:30:13,968
Like, just looks a little too real
while also not looking real at all,
703
00:30:14,481 --> 00:30:14,801
It
704
00:30:15,058 --> 00:30:15,248
ugh.
705
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:16,630
W- which one are you talking about?
706
00:30:17,030 --> 00:30:18,300
The, like, Spirits Within?
707
00:30:18,658 --> 00:30:19,028
Within?
708
00:30:19,028 --> 00:30:19,368
yeah
709
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:20,510
Oh, yeah, I agree.
710
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:22,270
That one is terrible
711
00:30:23,162 --> 00:30:25,532
Bro, why would you do this?
712
00:30:26,382 --> 00:30:27,402
this reminds me of?
713
00:30:27,472 --> 00:30:33,032
It reminds me of, uh, like the guys that
were like, I can't handle my anime at 20
714
00:30:33,042 --> 00:30:37,652
frames a second, so I up-scaled it to 60."
It's like… Or all the people who are
715
00:30:37,652 --> 00:30:43,722
like, who leave the, um, the, like, TV's
sharpening f- uh, like filters and, and
716
00:30:43,732 --> 00:30:46,892
frame generation stuff on on their TV.
717
00:30:47,332 --> 00:30:51,562
It's like, it's literally worse
and ruining the experience.
718
00:30:51,642 --> 00:30:52,392
Why?
719
00:30:53,252 --> 00:30:54,142
are we doing this?
720
00:30:55,152 --> 00:30:55,382
Ugh.
721
00:30:56,382 --> 00:31:00,142
Like, I mean, y- if you leave this
in the hands of, like, developers,
722
00:31:01,102 --> 00:31:03,452
maybe they could, they could
come up with some cool stuff.
723
00:31:03,452 --> 00:31:07,112
Like, I'm not, like, just 100%
opposed to this kind of thing.
724
00:31:07,482 --> 00:31:12,302
It, it's just as long as it's trained
ethically, which a lot of it isn't, and
725
00:31:12,332 --> 00:31:18,422
as long as it's being used to augment the
art and not destroy it, which to me, this
726
00:31:18,432 --> 00:31:21,272
is, like, objectively destroyed art, um,
727
00:31:21,443 --> 00:31:23,203
is, extreme cases.
728
00:31:23,203 --> 00:31:24,283
This is what I keep on trying to say.
729
00:31:24,313 --> 00:31:25,203
This is extreme ca-
730
00:31:25,278 --> 00:31:25,808
Yeah.
731
00:31:25,893 --> 00:31:26,953
it all the way up.
732
00:31:26,953 --> 00:31:31,063
You're gonna have this with so many
different fil- filters alone will do that.
733
00:31:31,643 --> 00:31:34,003
Um, now the ethical side of things,
that's a different, you know,
734
00:31:34,003 --> 00:31:37,133
story, but like this is not what
it's gonna look like unless you're
735
00:31:37,803 --> 00:31:39,793
wanting to have a funny time.
736
00:31:39,803 --> 00:31:42,143
But people believe this is what
it's going, the end, the end
737
00:31:42,143 --> 00:31:44,323
game's gonna look like, and I don't
think that's what it's gonna be
738
00:31:45,182 --> 00:31:45,492
Yeah.
739
00:31:45,522 --> 00:31:46,552
The en- the, like
740
00:31:46,791 --> 00:31:48,611
It's funny, but
741
00:31:48,612 --> 00:31:49,522
fully maxed at
742
00:31:49,641 --> 00:31:50,091
yeah.
743
00:31:50,351 --> 00:31:52,761
That, that, that's my whole point
is that people aren't under- Uh,
744
00:31:52,761 --> 00:31:57,031
it's why I wanna really preface this
'cause I, I'm getting tired of like,
745
00:31:57,051 --> 00:32:01,111
we have so much to rage about in,
in the gaming world and everything.
746
00:32:01,531 --> 00:32:04,671
This, we can rage a- We, we don- I
don't… It should be more like we
747
00:32:04,671 --> 00:32:06,811
should laugh at it because it's stupid.
748
00:32:07,141 --> 00:32:09,021
And if they do do this, we can rage.
749
00:32:09,021 --> 00:32:11,731
Like, if this is like the game
was what this looks like bec- and
750
00:32:11,741 --> 00:32:15,621
you enable, and you have no other
options besides DLSS 5 to have it
751
00:32:15,621 --> 00:32:18,291
run okay, we should start raging.
752
00:32:18,341 --> 00:32:20,571
I don't think this is how it's
gonna be, but this is pretty
753
00:32:20,646 --> 00:32:23,126
S- so I will say this though.
754
00:32:23,156 --> 00:32:27,076
I think my big problem with this is
that they're bundling this in with a
755
00:32:27,106 --> 00:32:29,196
DLSS instead of making its own thing
756
00:32:29,671 --> 00:32:32,551
Yeah, but th- this is maxed out tech.
757
00:32:32,551 --> 00:32:37,191
This is m- they all, I've seen
so many DLSS 5 versions that are
758
00:32:37,191 --> 00:32:38,751
not maxed out that look fine.
759
00:32:39,611 --> 00:32:40,481
maxed out.
760
00:32:40,881 --> 00:32:44,651
A lot of the rage ones I've seen
are maxed out versions or they've
761
00:32:44,651 --> 00:32:46,481
been tweaked to cause rage.
762
00:32:46,901 --> 00:32:49,811
That's why I'm, I'm like, I've seen
a lot of lower end ones where they
763
00:32:49,811 --> 00:32:51,201
just help improve it a little bit.
764
00:32:52,371 --> 00:32:53,261
No problems
765
00:32:54,876 --> 00:32:56,256
I, I do agree that it's pretty funny
766
00:32:56,778 --> 00:32:58,818
what you're saying,
James, makes sense, right?
767
00:32:58,818 --> 00:33:03,698
Like, is like if you go out of
your way in Skyrim or f- or, or
768
00:33:03,698 --> 00:33:07,778
even like The Sims 2 or whatever
to like make your character look as
769
00:33:07,798 --> 00:33:09,688
ugly as possible on purpose, right?
770
00:33:09,698 --> 00:33:10,548
That's what this is.
771
00:33:10,638 --> 00:33:14,018
But at the same time, like… A-
and like, and like for what I was
772
00:33:14,018 --> 00:33:18,298
saying, like if you leave this in the
hands of developers and artists, you
773
00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:21,508
might end up with something better,
but then you're still left with
774
00:33:21,508 --> 00:33:23,228
the question of how is it trained?
775
00:33:23,538 --> 00:33:24,128
And I guess,
776
00:33:24,131 --> 00:33:24,521
I agree.
777
00:33:24,521 --> 00:33:26,071
I mean, I'm not doubting that.
778
00:33:26,081 --> 00:33:30,741
My problem is, is that have
you guys seen any low, um,
779
00:33:30,931 --> 00:33:34,891
like low-effort DLSS 5 images?
780
00:33:35,511 --> 00:33:37,481
They're way different than
what we've been looking at.
781
00:33:38,181 --> 00:33:39,181
That's all I'm trying to say.
782
00:33:39,181 --> 00:33:39,501
Like,
783
00:33:39,806 --> 00:33:40,216
Yeah
784
00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:45,071
these are all rage bait, uh, um,
to make clicks for a post, which
785
00:33:45,071 --> 00:33:48,871
is fine-ish as long as you're
ethical about calling it out.
786
00:33:48,871 --> 00:33:50,351
I don't think most of them are.
787
00:33:50,661 --> 00:33:55,411
They're always designed to be ragey, and
it's like, okay, you can rage against it
788
00:33:55,421 --> 00:34:00,201
for the reasons w- we have, but this is
not what it's gonna look like, and people
789
00:34:00,201 --> 00:34:03,551
are gonna be shocked once they see DLSS 5
in their games, and they're gonna probably
790
00:34:03,551 --> 00:34:07,911
be upset too, 'cause it won't look like
this unless you really tweak it heavy.
791
00:34:08,651 --> 00:34:10,271
So that's what I'm just raging about.
792
00:34:10,271 --> 00:34:14,041
Like, when it's lower end,
you can't tell as much, so.
793
00:34:14,204 --> 00:34:15,804
True, I am just agenda posting.
794
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:16,504
I just hate Nvidia
795
00:34:17,383 --> 00:34:17,863
That's okay.
796
00:34:17,863 --> 00:34:18,333
That's okay.
797
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:22,233
Like, that's, I, I just wanna put preface
on that because I don't think it's,
798
00:34:22,513 --> 00:34:26,963
like, don't think it's honest for, uh,
for us to portray it like, "Oh, this
799
00:34:26,973 --> 00:34:29,453
is what it's gonna look like. This is
what it always looks like." This is not.
800
00:34:30,173 --> 00:34:31,853
This is maxed out
801
00:34:32,702 --> 00:34:33,022
Yeah.
802
00:34:34,432 --> 00:34:34,852
Yeah.
803
00:34:35,092 --> 00:34:36,532
Speaking of maxed out
804
00:34:37,482 --> 00:34:42,132
industry is maxing out screwing
you over, and Xbox is trying to
805
00:34:42,142 --> 00:34:43,482
be your friend while doing it.
806
00:34:45,472 --> 00:34:45,682
Or they're
807
00:34:45,852 --> 00:34:46,222
So
808
00:34:46,282 --> 00:34:47,512
into thinking they're your friend,
809
00:34:47,562 --> 00:34:47,902
Yeah
810
00:34:49,602 --> 00:34:54,992
Well, so basically for those who
don't know, this is Xbox's disc to
811
00:34:54,992 --> 00:34:58,472
digital program, something that's
been teased for quite a bit now, but
812
00:34:58,472 --> 00:35:00,122
now it's like officially a thing.
813
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:04,872
Essentially, if you have an Xbox
One or an Xbox Series device, uh,
814
00:35:04,872 --> 00:35:08,702
I get, I think most likely just the
Series X has the disc drive, right?
815
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:10,292
Yeah
816
00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:15,780
Ba- yeah, so basically if you have one
of those devices, you can stick in your
817
00:35:15,790 --> 00:35:18,960
d- you, you can stick in your physical
games and it lets you claim a, quote,
818
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:24,910
"digital entitlement" that can then be
subsequently revoked if you, like, sell
819
00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:29,100
your game or something So like if you
were, it's like if, so basically if you
820
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:34,380
were like to, if you were to claim digital
entitlement for a game and then sell it
821
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,100
to someone else, they can claim digital
entitlement for that key, for that, uh,
822
00:35:39,110 --> 00:35:44,720
disc copy because I think all the discs
are serialized, so they know exactly…
823
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,770
Yeah, I think they're all, I think they've
all been serialized, truth be told.
824
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:55,310
But yeah, that way other- otherwise
you'd have people, like d- they'd
825
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:57,830
like claim digital entitlement and
then they'd sell the games, then you
826
00:35:57,830 --> 00:35:59,930
could just, I don't know, whatever.
827
00:36:00,930 --> 00:36:05,780
So I mean, that's pretty cool given how
much, uh, physical stuff, even though
828
00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:09,400
So- like it's pretty cool given, you
know, the news that Sony's killing off
829
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,490
digital discs, but I think this is just
Xbox preparing for that inevitability as
830
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,210
well, for the Project Helix or whatever
831
00:36:17,756 --> 00:36:18,056
Yeah.
832
00:36:19,226 --> 00:36:23,046
I mean, Xbox has been, been
working to this moment since, uh,
833
00:36:23,096 --> 00:36:25,336
you know, was it the Xbox One?
834
00:36:26,205 --> 00:36:26,925
Don Mattrick,
835
00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,316
Don Mattrick, yeah
836
00:36:28,709 --> 00:36:30,799
they've been working to go fully digital.
837
00:36:30,829 --> 00:36:31,539
They've even mentioned it.
838
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:32,929
We've talked about multiple times.
839
00:36:33,692 --> 00:36:34,072
Yeah.
840
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:38,569
S- so this is just them some,
trying to write a good press
841
00:36:39,522 --> 00:36:39,982
Yes
842
00:36:40,139 --> 00:36:40,709
Xbox
843
00:36:41,709 --> 00:36:41,899
Yeah.
844
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,669
And I mean, like, uh, uh,
the fact that you can… Can
845
00:36:46,669 --> 00:36:48,429
you redeem like original Xbox
846
00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:48,909
games?
847
00:36:50,411 --> 00:36:51,901
I think so.
848
00:36:52,241 --> 00:36:57,981
Um, I don't have an Xbox to test
this out with, but I think so
849
00:36:58,743 --> 00:36:59,153
Yeah.
850
00:36:59,244 --> 00:37:04,264
digital entitlement by inserting a sup- a
supported disc into an Xbox One Series X.
851
00:37:04,564 --> 00:37:08,154
Most Xbox One and Series X titles support
this new feature, and digital copies
852
00:37:08,154 --> 00:37:11,324
do get… So original Xbox probably not
853
00:37:12,203 --> 00:37:16,163
Well, I mean, there are probably
some select ones, just not some
854
00:37:16,163 --> 00:37:17,243
of the ones you may expect.
855
00:37:17,243 --> 00:37:17,783
You know what I'm saying?
856
00:37:18,941 --> 00:37:19,101
Uh
857
00:37:20,161 --> 00:37:23,381
'
Cause they do sell original X-
Like if I had like Ninja Gaiden
858
00:37:23,421 --> 00:37:26,311
Black, you could probably claim
digital entitlement for that since
859
00:37:26,321 --> 00:37:28,041
they sell that on the Xbox store
860
00:37:28,596 --> 00:37:28,726
I'm
861
00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:29,091
too
862
00:37:29,166 --> 00:37:30,126
I just don't think they're…
863
00:37:31,557 --> 00:37:31,767
Sorry,
864
00:37:31,776 --> 00:37:34,116
Yeah, the, I was just gonna
say, I just don't think they're
865
00:37:34,116 --> 00:37:35,386
gonna support the original Xbox.
866
00:37:35,406 --> 00:37:38,736
There could be a whole order
of different reasons to that,
867
00:37:38,736 --> 00:37:41,076
but I'm not seeing anything
868
00:37:42,237 --> 00:37:45,427
were, were the original Xbox
games, like, serialized?
869
00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:49,367
I, I would be skeptical if
they were, that they were.
870
00:37:49,867 --> 00:37:50,187
I don't,
871
00:37:50,437 --> 00:37:50,567
I
872
00:37:50,647 --> 00:37:51,317
I don't know
873
00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:55,287
I feel like if they supported select
titles for this, they would, like,
874
00:37:55,777 --> 00:37:59,557
mention it here because they're only
mentioning Xbox One and Series X,
875
00:37:59,897 --> 00:38:05,077
which is like, if you're an Xbox fan,
you were not using these consoles.
876
00:38:05,857 --> 00:38:06,407
Uh, I
877
00:38:06,407 --> 00:38:06,677
don't know
878
00:38:06,717 --> 00:38:07,727
I wasn't anyway
879
00:38:07,809 --> 00:38:10,409
I could see the 360 being serialized
880
00:38:11,094 --> 00:38:11,714
Maybe.
881
00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:15,639
they went h- 'cause they definitely went
hard on the anti-piracy during the 360 era
882
00:38:16,006 --> 00:38:18,306
that's c- that doesn't mean sterilized.
883
00:38:18,306 --> 00:38:24,386
But they y- I, I hope they are, but
I just don't see anything about it
884
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:27,346
being related to 360, so we'll see
885
00:38:27,985 --> 00:38:31,995
There's no instance of 360 i-
uh, in this document here, so.
886
00:38:33,438 --> 00:38:33,458
Yeah.
887
00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:34,855
Uh, yeah.
888
00:38:35,008 --> 00:38:36,008
Nothing to give me hope.
889
00:38:36,008 --> 00:38:38,608
I, I would err on the side of probably not
890
00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:40,717
Yeah.
891
00:38:41,164 --> 00:38:42,614
Until they give reason otherwise
892
00:38:43,614 --> 00:38:43,824
So I
893
00:38:43,824 --> 00:38:49,234
mean, makes sense on the face of it,
but at the same time though, I would
894
00:38:49,234 --> 00:38:51,114
just move away from consoles altogether
895
00:38:52,223 --> 00:38:52,543
Yeah.
896
00:38:53,673 --> 00:38:53,983
Yep.
897
00:38:54,758 --> 00:38:57,558
Which means Nintendo is the
only reasonable choice now, even
898
00:38:57,558 --> 00:39:01,098
though we're not the biggest fan
of Nintendo's business practices
899
00:39:01,863 --> 00:39:02,203
No.
900
00:39:03,153 --> 00:39:08,423
But if you are moving to PC,
Valve just celebrated a 30-year
901
00:39:08,423 --> 00:39:10,943
birthday and they didn't mention it.
902
00:39:10,943 --> 00:39:12,903
There wasn't a single
peep about it from them
903
00:39:14,566 --> 00:39:15,896
That's how you know they're locked in.
904
00:39:15,916 --> 00:39:16,666
They're just too bus- they're
just too busy making things
905
00:39:16,666 --> 00:39:18,826
happen 'cause they don't even
906
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:20,329
Yeah.
907
00:39:20,406 --> 00:39:23,386
own birthday, kind of like how
some of us don't forget their,
908
00:39:23,546 --> 00:39:24,886
are forgetting our own birthdays.
909
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:25,899
Yeah
910
00:39:26,626 --> 00:39:32,156
Isn't it crazy that Valve… I've,
I'm, I mean, it is sure is a Valve
911
00:39:32,186 --> 00:39:36,366
thing, uh, but I would've expected a
milestone as big as the 30th anniversary
912
00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:39,316
to be, like, something, right?
913
00:39:40,316 --> 00:39:43,586
You would h- you would've thought,
but like, you know, at least they
914
00:39:43,586 --> 00:39:45,936
celebrated the 25th anniversary of,
915
00:39:46,502 --> 00:39:47,392
Half-Life
916
00:39:47,566 --> 00:39:51,926
yeah, with a, with a documentary
and with an updated, uh, client.
917
00:39:51,956 --> 00:39:52,286
But
918
00:39:52,963 --> 00:39:55,463
Th- they celebrate the products,
but I don't know about the
919
00:39:55,473 --> 00:39:57,803
company itself, which is fine.
920
00:39:58,153 --> 00:39:58,483
It's
921
00:39:58,648 --> 00:39:59,088
I mean
922
00:39:59,143 --> 00:40:00,573
like, really underwhelming
923
00:40:01,573 --> 00:40:04,293
I mean, I genuinely thought
they would do something.
924
00:40:04,343 --> 00:40:04,933
Like, I don't know.
925
00:40:04,933 --> 00:40:06,393
I… Like, maybe not that much.
926
00:40:06,413 --> 00:40:10,403
I, I would've thought they would've said
like, "We turned 30 today," or something.
927
00:40:10,403 --> 00:40:13,483
M- I, I mean, I didn't expect them to
give us like a free cop- another free copy
928
00:40:13,483 --> 00:40:15,253
of like Half-Life or whatever, but like
929
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:20,340
Guys, they did the 25th
because that's two five.
930
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:25,250
They didn't do, they didn't do
30 because that's three zero.
931
00:40:25,350 --> 00:40:25,790
Come on.
932
00:40:26,277 --> 00:40:26,497
They have
933
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:26,799
Ah.
934
00:40:26,817 --> 00:40:27,327
the 40th
935
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,770
Yeah.
936
00:40:28,899 --> 00:40:29,589
you're right.
937
00:40:29,629 --> 00:40:30,089
You're right.
938
00:40:30,089 --> 00:40:30,559
You got-
939
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,230
maybe they'll even celebrate the 31st.
940
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:36,960
It just, it can't be, like, a even
multiple of three for them to mention it.
941
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,150
Ah, shit.
942
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:40,370
You got a point there
943
00:40:40,762 --> 00:40:41,082
Yeah.
944
00:40:42,582 --> 00:40:43,302
That's funny.
945
00:40:44,562 --> 00:40:49,202
But, uh, guys, I mean, I, I say happy
birthday Valve though, 'cause like,
946
00:40:50,012 --> 00:40:53,752
know, Valve has been one of the most
influential gaming companies for
947
00:40:53,752 --> 00:40:56,142
better or worse for 30 years, right?
948
00:40:56,142 --> 00:41:00,932
Like, Half-Life changed the
industry, um, way stories were
949
00:41:00,932 --> 00:41:02,512
told in games even, right?
950
00:41:03,012 --> 00:41:03,672
And, uh,
951
00:41:04,342 --> 00:41:08,322
There's a lot of inno- yeah, and they
also changed the face of PC gaming
952
00:41:08,322 --> 00:41:14,802
forever, and PC gaming thrived under their
stewardship 'cause, like, let's be honest,
953
00:41:15,572 --> 00:41:17,632
what was PC gaming like before Steam?
954
00:41:17,812 --> 00:41:20,152
Not super-duper popular like it is now.
955
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:21,170
Right.
956
00:41:21,192 --> 00:41:24,252
while I'm, I'm sure Valve isn't
the only one contributing to its
957
00:41:24,262 --> 00:41:28,762
success, I would say a lot of it
was from Valve's successful Steam
958
00:41:29,976 --> 00:41:34,806
Well, I mean PC… So that's an
interesting question HiTech, because
959
00:41:34,806 --> 00:41:41,426
like PC was actually, uh, like on equal
footing I would say with, uh, with
960
00:41:41,446 --> 00:41:43,436
consoles for quite some time, right?
961
00:41:43,446 --> 00:41:44,776
For maybe 10 years.
962
00:41:45,066 --> 00:41:50,756
But then like right around Steam's
like early dominance on PC,
963
00:41:51,086 --> 00:41:55,376
that's when PC became the, the…
964
00:41:55,396 --> 00:41:57,816
endangered I would say in
terms of gaming, right?
965
00:41:57,826 --> 00:42:02,696
'Cause, uh, most of it, like if
there was a PC release of a game,
966
00:42:02,816 --> 00:42:04,566
it was like garbage, you know?
967
00:42:04,566 --> 00:42:06,646
Like the… I'm thinking
like the original BioShock.
968
00:42:07,096 --> 00:42:08,986
The original BioShock for PC sucked.
969
00:42:08,996 --> 00:42:12,236
I don't know if you guys remember that,
but it was not anywhere near what it
970
00:42:12,256 --> 00:42:14,226
should've been for a game of that stature.
971
00:42:14,606 --> 00:42:19,256
So, uh, and, and a lot of gamers, in-
myself included, were playing on 360
972
00:42:19,256 --> 00:42:22,506
or PlayStation 3, um, at the time.
973
00:42:22,566 --> 00:42:26,366
Um, and it was also 'cause I
was a Linux user at the time,
974
00:42:26,366 --> 00:42:27,476
so I didn't really have Windows.
975
00:42:27,476 --> 00:42:32,336
But like a lot of, I don't know,
a lot of gaming happened on 360.
976
00:42:34,146 --> 00:42:39,146
but yeah, I mean, the openness
of the PC has meant that it
977
00:42:39,146 --> 00:42:40,556
has remained a powerhouse.
978
00:42:42,256 --> 00:42:47,116
and Valve has really done a lot
to improve the ease of access
979
00:42:47,156 --> 00:42:49,616
to gaming on PC, you know?
980
00:42:49,818 --> 00:42:50,638
Oh yeah, man.
981
00:42:50,708 --> 00:42:54,138
I mean, by the… Uh, companies
used to not release on PC at
982
00:42:54,138 --> 00:42:56,998
all, uh, sometimes too, 'cause
they were worried about piracy.
983
00:42:56,998 --> 00:43:00,628
But Valve, I guess, assured
them that piracy was just a
984
00:43:00,628 --> 00:43:02,718
service issue, and guess what?
985
00:43:02,838 --> 00:43:03,248
Guess what?
986
00:43:03,248 --> 00:43:06,148
I think they were proven right
even after all these years
987
00:43:07,148 --> 00:43:07,548
Yep.
988
00:43:08,629 --> 00:43:12,539
Yeah, they definitely did help a lot with
all that even though things are moving
989
00:43:12,539 --> 00:43:16,929
back down into, like PlayStation not
doing releases on PC anymore and all.
990
00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:23,749
it's still the place where you can
get the most variety and the best
991
00:43:23,759 --> 00:43:26,089
bang for your buck, like hands down.
992
00:43:26,989 --> 00:43:30,999
PC or, uh, PCs might be more expensive
than consoles, but with sales and if
993
00:43:30,999 --> 00:43:34,739
you just time everything right, you'll
save so much more money than you
994
00:43:34,739 --> 00:43:38,429
would with, um, with, uh, a console
995
00:43:39,308 --> 00:43:39,638
Yeah.
996
00:43:40,948 --> 00:43:41,328
Yeah.
997
00:43:42,038 --> 00:43:42,738
Absolutely.
998
00:43:43,968 --> 00:43:53,048
Um, yeah, speaking of money and online
storefronts, US store commission
999
00:43:53,128 --> 00:43:55,518
revenue's down 18% this year.
1000
00:43:55,858 --> 00:43:59,558
And I- correct me if I'm wrong, Hi-Tech,
but this is the first time Apple's,
1001
00:43:59,668 --> 00:44:01,208
uh, App Store revenue has dropped
1002
00:44:01,835 --> 00:44:03,325
In like a decade, yes.
1003
00:44:04,985 --> 00:44:09,005
It's, it's a pretty big deal and a lot
of it likely has to do with the fact
1004
00:44:09,005 --> 00:44:15,715
that, well, game com- I mean, the fact
that, uh, everyone's got regulations.
1005
00:44:15,765 --> 00:44:21,165
Japan and Brazil recently introduced
regulations in regards to sideloading.
1006
00:44:22,285 --> 00:44:26,715
The last major holdout I think is
probably like the US and like, I
1007
00:44:26,715 --> 00:44:27,855
don't know, Australia or something
1008
00:44:28,855 --> 00:44:29,095
Yeah.
1009
00:44:29,105 --> 00:44:33,215
Well, I mean, I think regulations are
good and we need, uh, consumer choice.
1010
00:44:33,495 --> 00:44:34,795
Customer choice, I should say.
1011
00:44:34,825 --> 00:44:35,965
I don't like the word consumer
1012
00:44:37,621 --> 00:44:38,701
True that, true that.
1013
00:44:38,721 --> 00:44:44,221
I mean, truth be told, I mean, you
can see what result- you can see why
1014
00:44:44,221 --> 00:44:49,371
Apple wants to keep their, like, App
Store monopoly because they, like, lose
1015
00:44:49,371 --> 00:44:51,051
out a sig- on a significant amount.
1016
00:44:51,081 --> 00:44:53,391
They don't have that same sort
of loyalty that, like, gamers
1017
00:44:53,391 --> 00:44:54,991
have with, like, Valve, right?
1018
00:44:56,211 --> 00:44:59,591
Like, Valve has, like, a million different
storefronts you can install on Windows
1019
00:44:59,591 --> 00:45:01,731
and Linux, and guess where, guess what?
1020
00:45:01,731 --> 00:45:04,281
They all, they all still buy
all the games on Steam, right?
1021
00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:05,155
Yeah
1022
00:45:05,511 --> 00:45:09,981
But as soon as Apple introduced
third-party app stores, a lot
1023
00:45:09,981 --> 00:45:10,921
of people just jumped ship
1024
00:45:12,663 --> 00:45:12,953
Yeah.
1025
00:45:13,013 --> 00:45:16,913
Oh, I mean, but the thing is too, it's
like according to this article, Apple's
1026
00:45:16,923 --> 00:45:19,693
US commission revenue has fallen 18%.
1027
00:45:19,953 --> 00:45:22,753
So this isn't even like… They
can't even, like, claim with a
1028
00:45:22,753 --> 00:45:27,353
straight face that, uh, this has to
do with EU regulations or whatever
1029
00:45:27,402 --> 00:45:32,822
No, but Epic Games, if you read down
further, Epic Games did, um, win their
1030
00:45:32,822 --> 00:45:38,292
lawsuit, and so I think they're, uh,
like Epic and companies like that
1031
00:45:38,292 --> 00:45:42,092
can now start doing outside payments
again without getting a cut hit
1032
00:45:43,695 --> 00:45:44,025
Good.
1033
00:45:44,398 --> 00:45:45,768
So that's why
1034
00:45:45,865 --> 00:45:49,935
like, Yeah, that's, it's good
that they can do that, you know?
1035
00:45:51,007 --> 00:45:54,147
Yeah, I mean, that's good that App-
that's good that Apple to Epic did
1036
00:45:54,147 --> 00:45:58,597
that 'cause sideloading, God, you know,
there's, we, you know, there's only like
1037
00:45:58,597 --> 00:46:02,177
a few weeks left until Google implements
their stupid sideloading bullshit.
1038
00:46:03,287 --> 00:46:03,937
You guys know that?
1039
00:46:04,340 --> 00:46:04,730
Yeah
1040
00:46:04,933 --> 00:46:05,313
Yeah
1041
00:46:06,707 --> 00:46:10,127
And honestly, if Google like
restricts sideloading to a certain
1042
00:46:10,127 --> 00:46:12,987
degree, then I may as well just
go with an i- with an iPhone.
1043
00:46:12,987 --> 00:46:13,757
I'm gonna be honest with you
1044
00:46:14,755 --> 00:46:16,895
Well, is it still easy
to jailbreak an iPhone?
1045
00:46:17,895 --> 00:46:18,615
Uh-huh.
1046
00:46:18,771 --> 00:46:19,311
guess.
1047
00:46:19,341 --> 00:46:19,681
I don't know.
1048
00:46:19,681 --> 00:46:22,691
As a developer, I could install
pretty much anything I want off the
1049
00:46:22,691 --> 00:46:25,531
side, but it's not quite the same
1050
00:46:26,485 --> 00:46:30,045
Yeah, I mean, truth be told, you can
just sideload applications on that.
1051
00:46:30,105 --> 00:46:33,995
Like, you can already sideload, um,
though it requires a computer with iTunes
1052
00:46:34,995 --> 00:46:36,065
But I don't know, man.
1053
00:46:36,178 --> 00:46:36,818
still a thing?
1054
00:46:37,565 --> 00:46:39,665
I shouldn't s- it is still a thing
1055
00:46:40,163 --> 00:46:41,183
It's disgusting.
1056
00:46:41,253 --> 00:46:44,553
iTunes has not been worked on
heavily in a long time but yeah
1057
00:46:45,623 --> 00:46:48,463
It's still the unoptimized
buggy piece of shit you remember
1058
00:46:48,463 --> 00:46:49,833
from like a few decades ago
1059
00:46:50,279 --> 00:46:50,589
You don't,
1060
00:46:50,603 --> 00:46:51,093
on Windows
1061
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,369
think you need iTunes to… I don't know.
1062
00:46:54,271 --> 00:46:54,591
Most…
1063
00:46:54,699 --> 00:46:54,869
'Cause
1064
00:46:55,491 --> 00:46:55,961
Wait, you,
1065
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,139
anything I want on my iPhone if I wanted.
1066
00:46:59,391 --> 00:46:59,911
you don't need
1067
00:46:59,979 --> 00:47:00,969
I don't need iTunes.
1068
00:47:01,298 --> 00:47:02,098
for that, right?
1069
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:08,139
No, I mean, I- To get it on their…
That, that's a whole other thing.
1070
00:47:08,139 --> 00:47:09,719
I don't even think I have to pay for it.
1071
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:14,569
I can just side load some… I ha- I
side load some of my own, uh, projects
1072
00:47:14,619 --> 00:47:17,179
and play with them, and they're
connected to the internet and everything
1073
00:47:18,179 --> 00:47:18,679
Interesting
1074
00:47:19,326 --> 00:47:19,866
Mm.
1075
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:24,456
I have to get everything set up to do
that, but I don't need iTunes for it
1076
00:47:25,794 --> 00:47:26,454
Yeah.
1077
00:47:27,594 --> 00:47:28,604
Mm. I
1078
00:47:28,604 --> 00:47:34,684
mean, haven't-- I haven't s- I
haven't, uh, jailbroken an iPhone
1079
00:47:34,724 --> 00:47:36,534
in, like, many, many, many years.
1080
00:47:36,764 --> 00:47:39,294
In fact, I haven't even had an
iPhone in many, many years either.
1081
00:47:40,244 --> 00:47:41,894
In fact, I've never had an iPhone.
1082
00:47:41,954 --> 00:47:46,264
I just did this for my brother 'cause
he wanted to, he wanted to achieve
1083
00:47:46,274 --> 00:47:49,474
some microtransactions in video games,
and that's how we found out the hard
1084
00:47:49,474 --> 00:47:51,474
way that microtransactions aren't fun
1085
00:47:52,474 --> 00:47:52,834
I just
1086
00:47:53,235 --> 00:47:53,775
So,
1087
00:47:54,014 --> 00:47:55,084
never had a reason to m- sideload
1088
00:47:56,084 --> 00:48:00,504
There's, there are no… Oh, there's
a jailbreak for the iPhone 12,
1089
00:48:00,504 --> 00:48:09,634
13, 14 f- or 15 on iOS 17, but not
for, like, iOS 26 or, or iOS 18
1090
00:48:10,510 --> 00:48:12,530
And I'm probably… I, I'm,
I'd be willing to bet they're
1091
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:13,890
still working on a jailbreak
1092
00:48:14,713 --> 00:48:14,953
Yeah
1093
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,600
for, like, the newer iPhones
1094
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,410
I used to jailbreak a decade plus ago.
1095
00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:23,350
I just don't care these days.
1096
00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:26,050
There's nothing on… Not
saying that people shouldn't
1097
00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:27,630
be allowed to or anything, just
1098
00:48:28,628 --> 00:48:32,958
I mean, jailbreak used to, jailbreaking
used to matter a lot more when they sold
1099
00:48:32,968 --> 00:48:35,188
iPhones before the App Store existed
1100
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:40,470
Before the App Store existed or before
they added certain functionality because
1101
00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:42,430
Apple's been behind on certain things.
1102
00:48:42,890 --> 00:48:46,630
Now, honestly, we've kinda hit this
precipice where, like, Android and
1103
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:48,830
iOS just have almost everything
1104
00:48:49,420 --> 00:48:53,900
Yeah, if, for all the youngins in the
audience that didn't know this, they used
1105
00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:56,430
to sell iPhones without an app store.
1106
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,770
It just used to be like your
phone, but like touchscreen
1107
00:49:00,973 --> 00:49:01,383
Yeah.
1108
00:49:01,793 --> 00:49:05,923
And that was a better time because
the apps that you could install were
1109
00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:11,413
progressive web apps, and that, like,
that's how we should be doing everything.
1110
00:49:11,453 --> 00:49:12,153
But, uh,
1111
00:49:12,416 --> 00:49:12,886
I don't think…
1112
00:49:12,963 --> 00:49:14,993
should also have plugins
1113
00:49:15,106 --> 00:49:17,366
Did they have progressive
web app- web apps?
1114
00:49:17,366 --> 00:49:19,076
'Cause I rememb- I don't
think they had… Did they?
1115
00:49:19,633 --> 00:49:23,433
Yep, if you go back and, and people
were asking Steve Jobs, like,
1116
00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:26,363
cr- uh, journalists were asking
Steve Jobs, "What about apps?"
1117
00:49:26,383 --> 00:49:29,723
And he said, "If you, you can do anything
you need to with a progressive web app."
1118
00:49:31,446 --> 00:49:34,196
I wonder which… Oh, well,
I mean, you can still install
1119
00:49:34,196 --> 00:49:34,976
them today though, right?
1120
00:49:35,437 --> 00:49:35,717
Yeah.
1121
00:49:35,866 --> 00:49:36,096
Yeah
1122
00:49:36,190 --> 00:49:39,230
still install progressive web apps,
but they're, they've never been
1123
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:41,990
amazing, I'll be honest about it,
depending on what you're trying to do.
1124
00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:47,580
They are, but they don't support
enough pr- um, device, uh, and
1125
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:48,680
systems and stuff like that.
1126
00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:53,510
Like, you're never gonna fully
replace a native app at this point
1127
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,700
and not have security issues.
1128
00:49:55,950 --> 00:49:57,360
But Yeah.
1129
00:49:57,453 --> 00:49:57,833
Yeah.
1130
00:49:57,953 --> 00:50:02,273
The, the other problem though with,
with PWAs is that especially on
1131
00:50:02,273 --> 00:50:06,103
iOS, you're using Safari, which
is the Internet Explorer of 2026.
1132
00:50:06,443 --> 00:50:08,953
Like Safari sucks in
1133
00:50:09,104 --> 00:50:09,914
not great.
1134
00:50:09,924 --> 00:50:13,474
It is not Internet Explorer bad though.
1135
00:50:13,524 --> 00:50:14,584
Oh my gosh
1136
00:50:15,485 --> 00:50:16,545
the reason I say that is
1137
00:50:16,744 --> 00:50:18,414
You've had to, yeah.
1138
00:50:18,655 --> 00:50:19,405
back the web
1139
00:50:19,454 --> 00:50:19,924
Yeah
1140
00:50:20,735 --> 00:50:22,295
that's what Safari is doing
1141
00:50:22,326 --> 00:50:24,136
Safari is doing it right now for sure
1142
00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:28,935
if you wanna use the temporal API in
your app, you have to use Babel or
1143
00:50:28,935 --> 00:50:34,385
some, or some Webpack or something to
compile it for, uh… It's just you
1144
00:50:34,385 --> 00:50:40,495
can't do, uh, like modern API stuff
without using an insane amount of like,
1145
00:50:41,295 --> 00:50:45,755
polyfills or something, and it's, it's
so nuts to me that that's we're at.
1146
00:50:46,725 --> 00:50:47,135
I don't know.
1147
00:50:48,855 --> 00:50:49,285
Safari.
1148
00:50:49,285 --> 00:50:51,055
So I have a lot of opinions
about this 'cause I'm a web
1149
00:50:51,055 --> 00:50:52,395
developer first and foremost.
1150
00:50:52,538 --> 00:50:52,908
yeah.
1151
00:50:52,908 --> 00:50:53,138
No,
1152
00:50:53,138 --> 00:50:53,628
I, I, I,
1153
00:50:53,695 --> 00:50:58,675
ha- literally game I'm working on u-
like needs the temporal API in order
1154
00:50:58,678 --> 00:50:59,048
Yep
1155
00:50:59,965 --> 00:51:04,625
a calendar that isn't 40,000
lines of, you know, craziness.
1156
00:51:05,095 --> 00:51:10,065
Um, and, and so I'm, have to use Babel, I
1157
00:51:10,065 --> 00:51:14,685
think, to, to like transpile this
to like something that, uh, Safari
1158
00:51:14,685 --> 00:51:15,925
will actually be able to use.
1159
00:51:16,224 --> 00:51:19,924
You're gonna have to use a polyfill
or you're probably gonna have to tap
1160
00:51:19,924 --> 00:51:22,314
into WebGL or something like that.
1161
00:51:22,324 --> 00:51:25,724
You're gonna… there's a lot of
different thing, uh, ways around it.
1162
00:51:25,724 --> 00:51:29,094
It's not easy, but
that's kind of my point.
1163
00:51:29,114 --> 00:51:32,974
Once you get into certain things,
like it is better, uh, it's, Chrome
1164
00:51:33,004 --> 00:51:37,354
is better, but even the, uh, Chrome
has its limitations when it comes to
1165
00:51:38,524 --> 00:51:41,194
that are exposed as opposed to native.
1166
00:51:42,794 --> 00:51:43,154
So
1167
00:51:43,193 --> 00:51:43,513
Yep
1168
00:51:43,664 --> 00:51:44,414
I've used to do a
1169
00:51:44,556 --> 00:51:45,076
Yeah
1170
00:51:46,364 --> 00:51:48,804
Uh, I've gone away from them
because of part of that reason.
1171
00:51:48,804 --> 00:51:51,544
That being said, if it's like a news
app, there's a lot of different reasons.
1172
00:51:51,544 --> 00:51:55,504
Like, yeah, I don't think… I
think PWAs are fine Not saying
1173
00:51:55,504 --> 00:51:58,864
that the… Yeah, I indifferent
1174
00:51:58,955 --> 00:52:04,235
the reason that I like PWAs, and I
prefer them for everything that I do,
1175
00:52:04,445 --> 00:52:10,405
is because with a PWA, especially if
you're using a browser on mobile that
1176
00:52:10,405 --> 00:52:16,075
supports both PWAs and extensions,
you have control over your experience,
1177
00:52:16,321 --> 00:52:17,041
Угу
1178
00:52:17,305 --> 00:52:21,255
ad blocks on, and you can do whatever
you want with your experience, which you
1179
00:52:21,295 --> 00:52:24,285
cannot do, uh, without, like, root access.
1180
00:52:24,565 --> 00:52:27,235
Um, and even then, there's,
like, no guarantees.
1181
00:52:27,235 --> 00:52:30,665
You have to, like, wait for other
people to do-- you know, come up with
1182
00:52:31,115 --> 00:52:33,075
hacks or whatever to make an app.
1183
00:52:33,095 --> 00:52:33,265
I-
1184
00:52:33,265 --> 00:52:37,485
I've never even seen that kind of stuff
before, but, like, it's just crazy.
1185
00:52:37,485 --> 00:52:41,445
I- apps are such a, a
bad model, in my opinion.
1186
00:52:41,715 --> 00:52:43,255
Like or bust.
1187
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:44,422
I,
1188
00:52:44,715 --> 00:52:45,125
I, don't know.
1189
00:52:45,586 --> 00:52:46,186
Hmm
1190
00:52:46,485 --> 00:52:47,305
You disagree?
1191
00:52:47,592 --> 00:52:48,422
I don't know.
1192
00:52:48,422 --> 00:52:53,952
I think getting the, uh, no, it's not
a disagree, it's just I've just had
1193
00:52:53,952 --> 00:52:58,972
such bad ex- um, experiences with PWAs
and, and not having enough support
1194
00:52:58,992 --> 00:53:00,412
for doing what I need to get done.
1195
00:53:01,422 --> 00:53:07,562
And part of it is, yeah,
like on iOS with, uh, Safari.
1196
00:53:08,592 --> 00:53:12,152
Safari Web, when I'm making websites
for Safari Web, it's not like
1197
00:53:12,152 --> 00:53:14,002
the, the, the true Safari browser.
1198
00:53:14,002 --> 00:53:14,482
Like, meh.
1199
00:53:15,842 --> 00:53:16,782
PWAs, man.
1200
00:53:17,142 --> 00:53:21,022
Like apps, i- if you're making
really inter- integrated apps,
1201
00:53:21,022 --> 00:53:23,962
they n- they need more API control.
1202
00:53:24,073 --> 00:53:24,293
Yeah.
1203
00:53:24,293 --> 00:53:29,073
Well, Safari also, like, on
mobile does not allow PWAs to
1204
00:53:29,083 --> 00:53:30,563
receive push notifications,
1205
00:53:30,802 --> 00:53:31,232
Yeah
1206
00:53:31,543 --> 00:53:35,113
like… And, and I don't think you
can even do it with Chrome on iOS.
1207
00:53:35,123 --> 00:53:40,253
Like, if you want push notifications,
you have to have an Android phone,
1208
00:53:40,413 --> 00:53:44,763
um, to get them, which it- that's
an artificial limitation that
1209
00:53:45,043 --> 00:53:48,893
Apple puts there specifically to
push t- people towards, uh, apps.
1210
00:53:49,303 --> 00:53:50,663
Um- and that sucks.
1211
00:53:50,703 --> 00:53:53,213
Like, that kind of stuff is
anti-competitive, and it is,
1212
00:53:53,303 --> 00:53:54,343
it's wrong in my opinion.
1213
00:53:55,003 --> 00:53:55,483
Um,
1214
00:53:56,196 --> 00:53:59,546
curious if web… Well, yeah.
1215
00:54:00,546 --> 00:54:03,966
I'm curious on that one how, of what
the limitations are when it co- if,
1216
00:54:03,966 --> 00:54:07,006
if it can do browser-based p- uh,
notifications, push notifications.
1217
00:54:07,006 --> 00:54:09,196
But that's, we're getting
really into the minutiae stuff.
1218
00:54:10,026 --> 00:54:16,896
It's-- my, my thing is there just,
there has to be… You have to make it
1219
00:54:16,896 --> 00:54:21,216
easy for consumers or, and customers
and people that want, and so there has
1220
00:54:21,216 --> 00:54:22,706
to be like a melding between the two.
1221
00:54:23,726 --> 00:54:26,326
PWAs are not easy for
the, the average person.
1222
00:54:26,326 --> 00:54:29,496
They just don't understand
installing a PWA and using it
1223
00:54:30,633 --> 00:54:34,913
That is a user experience problem
and not the fault of PWAs.
1224
00:54:35,233 --> 00:54:36,783
Like, and I think it's intentional.
1225
00:54:36,816 --> 00:54:40,746
an inher- it's an inherent problem
with, with PWAs, but I, I, I'm
1226
00:54:40,746 --> 00:54:42,126
not gonna disagree, thankfully.
1227
00:54:42,126 --> 00:54:44,346
Like, there's also, that.
1228
00:54:45,257 --> 00:54:45,587
Yeah.
1229
00:54:45,936 --> 00:54:50,646
I just, I've, I've, I, I just cannot…
Like, I've had PWAs with companies where I
1230
00:54:50,646 --> 00:54:52,096
just could not get people to install them.
1231
00:54:52,306 --> 00:54:53,476
They just would not install them.
1232
00:54:53,606 --> 00:54:55,466
Even if we like, "Hey,
you should install this.
1233
00:54:55,476 --> 00:54:56,486
You should…" They didn't.
1234
00:54:56,566 --> 00:54:56,776
No
1235
00:54:57,776 --> 00:54:58,146
Yeah.
1236
00:54:59,206 --> 00:55:00,946
It's, uh, it's annoying.
1237
00:55:01,996 --> 00:55:07,156
But, uh, yeah, speaking of
something that's not annoying, dude,
1238
00:55:09,296 --> 00:55:11,176
now supports trophies
1239
00:55:12,305 --> 00:55:12,946
Hell yeah
1240
00:55:13,904 --> 00:55:14,664
That's awesome.
1241
00:55:15,364 --> 00:55:16,464
That's truly awesome
1242
00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:17,636
Yes.
1243
00:55:17,636 --> 00:55:22,526
So you can sign on to their
RPCN network, which is like
1244
00:55:22,526 --> 00:55:24,276
their, like, PSN replacement,
1245
00:55:24,827 --> 00:55:25,417
Yeah
1246
00:55:25,516 --> 00:55:29,296
can get trophies that way, and
these are the actual, like, official
1247
00:55:29,296 --> 00:55:30,966
trophies that these games came with.
1248
00:55:30,996 --> 00:55:35,866
Um, that's the PS3 didn't get
trophies until after a s- a
1249
00:55:35,866 --> 00:55:38,606
specific update, I think, 'cause
it didn't come with it at launch.
1250
00:55:39,626 --> 00:55:44,326
They saw what Xbox was doing and
was like, "I gotta do it." But yeah.
1251
00:55:45,716 --> 00:55:49,056
Yeah, they saw what Xbox was doing and
they decided to add trophies to it.
1252
00:55:49,176 --> 00:55:49,926
It's pretty cool.
1253
00:55:50,116 --> 00:55:56,356
Uh, but essentially, yeah, you, you
sign on, you sign into RPCN, you
1254
00:55:56,356 --> 00:56:00,336
get trophies, and bam, PS3 trophies
1255
00:56:02,147 --> 00:56:05,537
PlayStation's not gonna be
happy about this or Sony.
1256
00:56:07,227 --> 00:56:09,227
This will be interesting to see what
happens from this, but this is really cool
1257
00:56:10,806 --> 00:56:14,106
Well, it's not like it's going to
your actual PlayStation account.
1258
00:56:14,156 --> 00:56:16,806
It's not like I'm getting
trophies on Demon Souls and
1259
00:56:16,816 --> 00:56:18,326
getting on my own PSN account
1260
00:56:18,749 --> 00:56:22,809
but I'm sure they have a lot of
pri- uh, they ha- they wanna have
1261
00:56:22,849 --> 00:56:24,419
ownership of that whole thing.
1262
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:26,149
So I'm-- That's what I'm saying.
1263
00:56:26,149 --> 00:56:27,779
I just don't think they're
gonna be happy about this.
1264
00:56:27,789 --> 00:56:29,329
I'm not saying that they're
1265
00:56:30,234 --> 00:56:30,694
Mm-hmm.
1266
00:56:30,704 --> 00:56:31,284
That's true
1267
00:56:31,962 --> 00:56:36,982
RPCN is, uh, uh, AGPL licensed.
1268
00:56:37,782 --> 00:56:38,062
Hell
1269
00:56:38,062 --> 00:56:38,922
yeah.
1270
00:56:38,958 --> 00:56:39,138
that
1271
00:56:39,138 --> 00:56:39,478
mean?
1272
00:56:40,002 --> 00:56:41,852
Uh, it's free and open source
1273
00:56:42,744 --> 00:56:43,234
Oh
1274
00:56:44,234 --> 00:56:46,484
Which you never know
with cloud stuff, right?
1275
00:56:46,514 --> 00:56:50,344
Like, sometimes a open source app
will have, like, proprietary cloud
1276
00:56:50,344 --> 00:56:54,154
shit, and you're like, "Why?" But this
seems … This is, this is really cool.
1277
00:56:55,734 --> 00:56:56,044
Uh
1278
00:56:56,671 --> 00:56:57,441
That is pretty cool.
1279
00:56:57,461 --> 00:56:59,001
That is pretty cool, I will say
1280
00:57:00,001 --> 00:57:00,441
Yep
1281
00:57:00,461 --> 00:57:02,331
will it work on real PS3s though?
1282
00:57:02,571 --> 00:57:03,531
Someone said no
1283
00:57:04,531 --> 00:57:06,531
That's, that, and that's to be expected.
1284
00:57:06,551 --> 00:57:13,321
I mean, this, this gives them control
over, like, how the API, the RPCN API is
1285
00:57:13,321 --> 00:57:17,651
contr- is, uh, exposed to the emulator,
which you don't, you wouldn't have that
1286
00:57:17,661 --> 00:57:23,371
kind of, uh, uh, over on, on, uh, 3
1287
00:57:24,178 --> 00:57:25,328
Yeah, that's fair.
1288
00:57:25,368 --> 00:57:29,168
Yo, this also, um, it sounds… I don't
know if you guys are interested in, like,
1289
00:57:29,198 --> 00:57:33,278
other retro games having achievements, but
there's the whole RetroAchievements thing
1290
00:57:33,338 --> 00:57:35,058
for those that aren't familiar with that.
1291
00:57:35,788 --> 00:57:40,938
They basically supported emulators
now have achievement pop-ups for when
1292
00:57:40,938 --> 00:57:43,658
you achieve certain, uh, criteria.
1293
00:57:44,358 --> 00:57:49,758
I will say a lot of the, like, ones for
older retro games are more for, they're
1294
00:57:49,758 --> 00:57:51,898
more for seasoned players, I will say.
1295
00:57:53,748 --> 00:57:57,458
Not, it's not like achievements on,
like, a new game where like, oh, you
1296
00:57:57,458 --> 00:57:59,538
beat chapter one, you get an achievement.
1297
00:57:59,598 --> 00:58:02,998
It's not, not, not a whole lot of them
are like that on RetroAchievements,
1298
00:58:03,048 --> 00:58:04,088
but they're still pretty cool.
1299
00:58:04,608 --> 00:58:07,008
You can log on to your, you can
log on to it directly through
1300
00:58:07,018 --> 00:58:08,628
RetroArch, and it just works.
1301
00:58:10,518 --> 00:58:10,728
Well
1302
00:58:11,728 --> 00:58:11,988
Yeah.
1303
00:58:12,778 --> 00:58:13,848
I mean, this is cool.
1304
00:58:13,858 --> 00:58:15,948
Like, oh man, this just
makes me happy, dude.
1305
00:58:15,998 --> 00:58:17,998
Like, I… Yeah.
1306
00:58:18,208 --> 00:58:20,948
I mean, the fact that, like,
now, so there's RPCN, right?
1307
00:58:21,288 --> 00:58:25,698
Which gives PS3 emulators
access to network games.
1308
00:58:26,298 --> 00:58:29,068
Uh, uh, there's also, what
is it, Hor- is it Horizon?
1309
00:58:29,088 --> 00:58:34,148
W- what's the, um, Xbox 360, uh,
1310
00:58:34,681 --> 00:58:35,121
Insignia?
1311
00:58:35,648 --> 00:58:38,218
Ins- well, that's the
original Xbox, Insignia?
1312
00:58:38,468 --> 00:58:38,798
That's
1313
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,450
Ah
1314
00:58:39,838 --> 00:58:40,868
another one I was gonna list.
1315
00:58:40,878 --> 00:58:41,828
Insignia is cool.
1316
00:58:41,958 --> 00:58:45,308
But we're having, like, these
re-implementations, right, of, of Xbox
1317
00:58:45,318 --> 00:58:47,528
Live and, uh, PlayStation Network.
1318
00:58:47,658 --> 00:58:52,018
And there's also, um, Loaded or, or
whatever it is where, for the Wii.
1319
00:58:53,018 --> 00:58:53,388
I don't know.
1320
00:58:53,388 --> 00:58:56,088
if it's Wii Loaded, But, it's one
of those, like, where it has, um,
1321
00:58:56,568 --> 00:58:58,918
you know, Wii Connect 24 support.
1322
00:58:59,378 --> 00:59:00,918
That, dude, that's just super cool.
1323
00:59:00,918 --> 00:59:03,128
I don't know, is there
one for the, uh, 3DS?
1324
00:59:03,148 --> 00:59:06,908
'Cause that would be one I would
wanna, uh, to mess around with.
1325
00:59:07,958 --> 00:59:08,218
but
1326
00:59:08,896 --> 00:59:09,286
Um, I don't know.
1327
00:59:09,496 --> 00:59:16,376
But, but it's ve- but this is like some
next level game preservations stuff.
1328
00:59:16,406 --> 00:59:19,146
Like, 'cause this is the type
of stuff that all the game
1329
00:59:19,146 --> 00:59:23,196
corporations would like to have
you believe is not preservable, but
1330
00:59:23,636 --> 00:59:24,036
Right
1331
00:59:24,136 --> 00:59:26,806
managed to do it in a
cave with a box of scraps
1332
00:59:27,804 --> 00:59:28,024
Yeah.
1333
00:59:28,564 --> 00:59:28,964
Yeah.
1334
00:59:30,594 --> 00:59:32,664
Dude, super cool.
1335
00:59:33,654 --> 00:59:34,404
You love to see it
1336
00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:37,540
Oh yeah, that reminds me though.
1337
00:59:37,690 --> 00:59:42,270
You mentioned Mario Kart, uh, Wii,
but I d- wanted to mention that the,
1338
00:59:42,270 --> 00:59:47,240
uh, Wii com- the Wii compiled re- uh,
version of Mario Kart Wii, it's out.
1339
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:48,540
We talked about that a few months ago.
1340
00:59:49,008 --> 00:59:49,508
Yes.
1341
00:59:49,808 --> 00:59:50,498
That's awesome.
1342
00:59:50,828 --> 00:59:52,598
Can You play it on your Steam Deck?
1343
00:59:53,580 --> 00:59:54,480
Steam Machine?
1344
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,430
Uh, let's find out.
1345
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,820
Uh, there's a se- setup.exe.
1346
01:00:00,210 --> 01:00:01,100
I mean, probably.
1347
01:00:01,870 --> 01:00:02,990
It says it's Windows
1348
01:00:04,234 --> 01:00:04,614
Yeah.
1349
01:00:05,934 --> 01:00:06,394
Oh, well.
1350
01:00:06,424 --> 01:00:08,724
Well, you know what you can
do with a Steam Deck is you
1351
01:00:08,724 --> 01:00:10,114
can control a Mars rover.
1352
01:00:10,794 --> 01:00:11,724
was, I was trying to segue.
1353
01:00:11,724 --> 01:00:12,994
I, I don't know if that worked, but
1354
01:00:13,964 --> 01:00:14,964
Yeah, it worked pretty well
1355
01:00:16,490 --> 01:00:16,830
Yeah.
1356
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:17,870
Dude, what's, what's this about?
1357
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:20,770
I saw this headline and I was like,
"That's pretty neat," but the lag
1358
01:00:20,770 --> 01:00:22,240
would pr- probably be pretty intense
1359
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:26,100
Well, they didn't test it in Ma- on Mars.
1360
01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:28,790
They tested it, uh, like locally
1361
01:00:30,132 --> 01:00:30,652
Okay.
1362
01:00:30,882 --> 01:00:31,392
All right
1363
01:00:31,538 --> 01:00:34,698
Like, I don't see the re- I don't see
a re- I don't see needing… I don't
1364
01:00:34,698 --> 01:00:37,678
think you would need a Steam Deck
control 'cause, like, it takes, like,
1365
01:00:37,688 --> 01:00:41,258
three business days to, like, reach
fucking Mars, if I'm not mistaken
1366
01:00:41,722 --> 01:00:46,202
Mm, it's, uh, no, it's, it depends
on, like, the, the, uh, distance
1367
01:00:46,222 --> 01:00:49,932
because we don't have the same
orbit, but, uh, it can take up to
1368
01:00:49,962 --> 01:00:52,032
30 minutes, I believe, to reach Mars
1369
01:00:53,562 --> 01:00:54,292
Oh, right
1370
01:00:55,274 --> 01:00:57,564
There's delay.
1371
01:00:57,624 --> 01:00:58,704
I gotta look it up now.
1372
01:00:59,056 --> 01:01:04,416
Oh wait, no, I, wait, I, let's see, three
minutes one way to 40 minutes round trip.
1373
01:01:05,146 --> 01:01:09,256
So yeah, I mean, three
minutes is pretty good.
1374
01:01:09,256 --> 01:01:12,046
I don- I wonder what protocol
they're using to transmit, uh,
1375
01:01:12,066 --> 01:01:14,036
signals all the way to fucking Mars
1376
01:01:14,410 --> 01:01:14,860
Mm-mm.
1377
01:01:15,970 --> 01:01:21,890
They use the deep space, uh, deep
space radio array to do that Yeah
1378
01:01:22,978 --> 01:01:25,788
Yeah, but I mean, the Steam Deck
has still proven to be a very
1379
01:01:25,918 --> 01:01:27,448
versatile piece of equipment.
1380
01:01:27,448 --> 01:01:31,498
They've used it to pilot, uh,
Disney animatronics at Disney World,
1381
01:01:32,196 --> 01:01:32,516
Yeah
1382
01:01:33,018 --> 01:01:35,728
pilot drones and turrets.
1383
01:01:36,638 --> 01:01:37,838
Not submarines, though.
1384
01:01:37,878 --> 01:01:43,748
I, I feel like… But I mean, they've, th-
then now they've got a whole, whole Mars
1385
01:01:43,748 --> 01:01:45,658
rover here, which is also really cool, too
1386
01:01:46,658 --> 01:01:53,078
It's semi-cheap affordable hardware
that you can hack that has Linux and
1387
01:01:53,168 --> 01:01:54,938
you can put pretty much anything on it.
1388
01:01:55,618 --> 01:01:56,998
It's, uh, I
1389
01:01:57,088 --> 01:01:57,348
Well
1390
01:01:57,368 --> 01:01:58,748
just pretty hacker-friendly
1391
01:01:59,408 --> 01:02:02,728
I, I wouldn't know if I'd
say it's affordable anymore
1392
01:02:03,508 --> 01:02:06,028
Compared to specialized
equipment, it is affordable.
1393
01:02:06,456 --> 01:02:06,816
Ja ja.
1394
01:02:07,316 --> 01:02:07,476
Ja
1395
01:02:07,628 --> 01:02:07,988
So
1396
01:02:08,116 --> 01:02:08,636
That is true
1397
01:02:08,728 --> 01:02:11,868
st- have standards around it, make
drivers or whatever it is, libraries
1398
01:02:11,868 --> 01:02:16,328
that you know are gonna function
well across, and you can buy multiple
1399
01:02:16,338 --> 01:02:18,008
for, let's say this or drones,
1400
01:02:20,288 --> 01:02:24,548
it's much better than trying to get
a specialized system or hardware,
1401
01:02:25,524 --> 01:02:26,114
Yeah.
1402
01:02:26,498 --> 01:02:26,798
at least
1403
01:02:27,584 --> 01:02:31,114
It is really, it is really cool what
they're doing with this, uh, 'cause like
1404
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,130
The Steam Deck One's gonna have
a life of its own even after the
1405
01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:39,260
hardware inevitably becomes outdated.
1406
01:02:39,290 --> 01:02:42,800
Some, I mean, some would argue that it's
outdated already, even though I still
1407
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,530
play my Steam Deck fairly regularly
1408
01:02:45,081 --> 01:02:45,401
Yeah,
1409
01:02:45,658 --> 01:02:51,478
It's definitely close to outdated, but
it's not, there's, you know, there's just,
1410
01:02:52,088 --> 01:02:56,118
there's not, it's not like the Legion Go
2 and these other ones are, are nice and
1411
01:02:56,118 --> 01:03:02,438
all, or the ones that are priced similar,
but there's … And, and they do, like
1412
01:03:02,878 --> 01:03:08,858
price to performance they're a better
deal, but it still is not that much w-
1413
01:03:08,998 --> 01:03:11,298
like it's not that much worse I would say.
1414
01:03:11,298 --> 01:03:15,488
Like it's still, it's a, it's a
console-like experience in your hand for
1415
01:03:15,488 --> 01:03:19,248
PC games, so it's better than Windows
1416
01:03:20,248 --> 01:03:20,568
Yeah.
1417
01:03:20,868 --> 01:03:26,098
I-- see, the thing is, with
Steam, like, there's always going
1418
01:03:26,098 --> 01:03:30,068
to be new games coming out that
will be Steam Deck compatible.
1419
01:03:30,108 --> 01:03:32,208
You'll be able to play them
on the Steam Deck, right?
1420
01:03:32,228 --> 01:03:40,218
And so from my opinion, as long as the
Steam client works on the Steam Deck
1421
01:03:40,258 --> 01:03:42,438
hardware, it will never be obsolete.
1422
01:03:42,708 --> 01:03:46,258
You won't be able to play, like,
modern, like, contemporary AAA games,
1423
01:03:46,718 --> 01:03:49,588
um, and you might not be able to play
a lot of them right now on the Steam
1424
01:03:49,588 --> 01:03:53,768
Deck, but it's not obsolete until the
s- the client d- no longer supports
1425
01:03:53,857 --> 01:03:54,347
Yeah.
1426
01:03:54,507 --> 01:03:54,607
I
1427
01:03:54,607 --> 01:03:54,917
mean,
1428
01:03:54,948 --> 01:03:55,488
my opinion
1429
01:03:55,557 --> 01:03:57,427
it- mine's more if it outdated.
1430
01:03:57,697 --> 01:04:00,487
It's, it, there's a difference
between outdated and obsolete.
1431
01:04:00,537 --> 01:04:03,307
I don't think it's gonna be
obsolete for a very long time.
1432
01:04:03,387 --> 01:04:05,367
Outdated, we're already hitting that.
1433
01:04:05,477 --> 01:04:12,237
We are, we, I think we've already been
on there, on that, um, for a year or two.
1434
01:04:12,337 --> 01:04:16,197
Uh, it sh- what, what I'm just saying
is, like, if it wasn't for the RAM crisis
1435
01:04:16,197 --> 01:04:18,627
and all these other things, I think
that's gonna push things off even more.
1436
01:04:18,697 --> 01:04:22,817
I think it would be a good time
for a Steam Deck Two soon, is
1437
01:04:22,817 --> 01:04:24,237
all I'm saying, as a PC gamer.
1438
01:04:24,467 --> 01:04:27,737
And that's just a PC gamer wanting
it more than anything else, 'cause
1439
01:04:27,737 --> 01:04:33,067
I'm used to hardware upgrade
cycles being faster than consoles
1440
01:04:34,067 --> 01:04:34,527
Yeah.
1441
01:04:35,417 --> 01:04:37,257
It's, uh… I don't know.
1442
01:04:37,287 --> 01:04:40,627
It's, I, I… Dude, it's cool to see
the Steam Deck just pop up in random
1443
01:04:40,627 --> 01:04:47,567
places, and I think that does kinda,
um, speak to how, uh, accessible
1444
01:04:47,657 --> 01:04:49,397
and open the platform is, right?
1445
01:04:49,407 --> 01:04:54,217
It's, it's just an x86 computer with,
uh, built-in controls, and that makes
1446
01:04:54,217 --> 01:04:58,827
it, like, re- like, uh, to a lot of
1447
01:04:58,854 --> 01:05:02,364
trackpads, which might also help
a lot with certain things too.
1448
01:05:03,154 --> 01:05:04,784
just, it, it makes it more versatile.
1449
01:05:05,624 --> 01:05:05,854
Yeah
1450
01:05:05,901 --> 01:05:06,281
Yep.
1451
01:05:07,451 --> 01:05:08,081
It's pretty neat
1452
01:05:09,852 --> 01:05:10,152
Yeah.
1453
01:05:10,342 --> 01:05:12,672
I can't wait to see it
being used more and more.
1454
01:05:12,762 --> 01:05:15,312
We're gonna be like, "Oh, looks
like the new shuttles are being
1455
01:05:15,312 --> 01:05:16,892
piloted by the Steam Deck Two."
1456
01:05:18,551 --> 01:05:19,141
Yeah, and it
1457
01:05:19,161 --> 01:05:19,191
And
1458
01:05:19,401 --> 01:05:23,791
too that, like, it has, it has
very standard controls, right?
1459
01:05:23,791 --> 01:05:27,611
Like, you know, that everybody's
familiar with pretty much, right?
1460
01:05:27,611 --> 01:05:33,091
Like, uh, it's why, like, drone,
uh, the US Army uses, uh, Xbox
1461
01:05:33,301 --> 01:05:35,101
360 controllers to control drones.
1462
01:05:35,101 --> 01:05:37,121
You know, it's like everybody
knows how to use that
1463
01:05:38,121 --> 01:05:41,991
Maybe, maybe they'll switch to
Xbox, uh, maybe they'll switch to
1464
01:05:43,541 --> 01:05:44,811
Steam Controllers in the future
1465
01:05:45,351 --> 01:05:45,871
Yeah.
1466
01:05:46,251 --> 01:05:46,491
Yeah.
1467
01:05:47,401 --> 01:05:49,781
Uh, dude
1468
01:05:55,591 --> 01:05:55,861
Yeah.
1469
01:05:55,881 --> 01:06:00,431
Well, uh, I don't know how to segue to
this one, but, uh, quantum computing
1470
01:06:00,431 --> 01:06:05,761
used… A con- quantum computing has
been used in, in a first commercial game.
1471
01:06:06,391 --> 01:06:08,371
Um, what is going on with this?
1472
01:06:09,189 --> 01:06:14,319
So this is a game that's allegedly
being developed making use of quantum
1473
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:18,149
compu- computing for game assets,
narrative, and procedural systems.
1474
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:21,649
Um, at least that's what the article says.
1475
01:06:21,879 --> 01:06:26,329
I could not tell you what that
actually translates to, because I
1476
01:06:26,329 --> 01:06:29,359
looked at the game page and it looks
like you can just do this with like
1477
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:31,479
a, a normal non-quantum computer.
1478
01:06:33,279 --> 01:06:37,939
You gotta go… Yeah, I also linked
the Steam page as well for this game.
1479
01:06:38,939 --> 01:06:41,879
I figured I wanna talk about it 'cause I
have… 'Cause like maybe you guys know
1480
01:06:41,879 --> 01:06:44,709
what's so quantum computery about it
1481
01:06:45,963 --> 01:06:48,983
I think the, the, the part that's
impressive is that they're just able
1482
01:06:48,983 --> 01:06:50,153
to do it with quantum computing.
1483
01:06:50,163 --> 01:06:53,293
So quantum computing and programming
quantum computing's drastically
1484
01:06:53,293 --> 01:06:55,343
different than regular programming.
1485
01:06:55,693 --> 01:06:59,213
So th- I think this is just a
feat of like, see, we're already
1486
01:06:59,213 --> 01:07:02,423
catching up to what some regular
computers can do, which is good.
1487
01:07:02,663 --> 01:07:07,113
But like quantum computing's gonna
probably have a pretty different, use case
1488
01:07:07,113 --> 01:07:09,963
than what we think regular computers have.
1489
01:07:09,963 --> 01:07:12,243
So people don't understand
the difference between quantum
1490
01:07:12,243 --> 01:07:13,503
computing and regular computing.
1491
01:07:13,543 --> 01:07:15,983
And so this is just a cool first step.
1492
01:07:15,983 --> 01:07:18,833
I think this is more of a
showcase to see that like it can
1493
01:07:18,843 --> 01:07:20,663
do what normal computers can do
1494
01:07:21,663 --> 01:07:24,393
Yeah, I mean, so my understanding
is, like, quantum computing
1495
01:07:24,403 --> 01:07:26,993
is all about probability.
1496
01:07:27,233 --> 01:07:32,463
Uh, and, like, uh, quantum
computers can't do like, anything
1497
01:07:32,463 --> 01:07:34,393
like what normal computers can do
1498
01:07:34,443 --> 01:07:35,243
and vice versa.
1499
01:07:35,243 --> 01:07:38,383
Normal computers can't do anything
like what quantum computers can do.
1500
01:07:38,873 --> 01:07:44,893
Um, uh, the, or at least they're optimized
for many, for much different tasks,
1501
01:07:45,130 --> 01:07:47,570
It's, uh, well, one, it's, it's
optimized that way, and also two,
1502
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:54,720
we have decades of libraries of
systems built on top of what our, um,
1503
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,690
computers can do, regular computers.
1504
01:07:57,020 --> 01:07:58,170
Quantum, you're not wrong.
1505
01:07:58,170 --> 01:08:03,220
Like, uh, uh, probability, it, it,
it can crunch probability and, um,
1506
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:08,250
computational stuff really heavily, but
it's gotta be programmed in such a way
1507
01:08:09,311 --> 01:08:09,601
Yeah.
1508
01:08:09,886 --> 01:08:12,016
So, uh, pull up the game page, Gardner.
1509
01:08:12,066 --> 01:08:13,446
Um, you should have that open, right?
1510
01:08:13,601 --> 01:08:15,931
I was, I was looking at it,
but I didn't switch tabs.
1511
01:08:15,931 --> 01:08:16,271
Sorry.
1512
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:17,440
All good.
1513
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:23,260
So if you go, like, but so it, like you
said, I, I mean, yeah, it seems like maybe
1514
01:08:23,270 --> 01:08:26,730
they just did it 'cause they could, but
then the big question now is, uh, why?
1515
01:08:27,710 --> 01:08:31,870
Why a quantum computer and not
just, like, a computer computer?
1516
01:08:32,584 --> 01:08:33,054
Because
1517
01:08:33,054 --> 01:08:33,254
it's
1518
01:08:33,704 --> 01:08:34,164
cool
1519
01:08:35,209 --> 01:08:35,579
yeah.
1520
01:08:35,619 --> 01:08:38,449
Their Steam page doesn't even
mention the, have, have a reference
1521
01:08:38,449 --> 01:08:39,669
to the word Quantum on it.
1522
01:08:40,679 --> 01:08:41,049
Um-
1523
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:42,410
That is true.
1524
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:43,210
That is true.
1525
01:08:44,370 --> 01:08:48,620
The, it says that Me Tail has
worked with experts from IBM Quantum
1526
01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:51,880
Computing, so they're working
with IBM to get this shit done
1527
01:08:53,023 --> 01:08:53,483
Mm-hmm.
1528
01:08:55,052 --> 01:08:55,072
Yeah.
1529
01:08:55,172 --> 01:08:59,082
IBM's one of the big ones I mean,
it, no, it, it's just, it, it's fine.
1530
01:08:59,122 --> 01:08:59,802
I think it's cool.
1531
01:08:59,832 --> 01:09:02,722
I think, honestly, I kinda miss this
type of stuff of being like, "Look,
1532
01:09:02,722 --> 01:09:06,352
this is done this way even though we
don't have to do it this way." Um,
1533
01:09:06,352 --> 01:09:10,182
it's just showcasing that quantum
computing can potentially do more,
1534
01:09:10,232 --> 01:09:12,392
maybe be a part of this type of thing.
1535
01:09:12,412 --> 01:09:15,742
I think they're also having a hard
time applying quantum computing to
1536
01:09:17,042 --> 01:09:22,032
more than just a few, um, applications,
and so maybe this is something that
1537
01:09:22,032 --> 01:09:23,772
they're trying to do to, to promote it.
1538
01:09:23,892 --> 01:09:24,872
I think it's a good thing, though
1539
01:09:25,949 --> 01:09:26,379
My
1540
01:09:26,379 --> 01:09:27,449
understanding of
1541
01:09:27,449 --> 01:09:30,709
quantum computing is like quantum
computing is good for like
1542
01:09:31,059 --> 01:09:34,979
cracking, uh, you know, encryption.
1543
01:09:35,309 --> 01:09:41,049
Um, quantum computing probably would
be good for, uh, uh, like executing
1544
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:42,839
machine learning models, right?
1545
01:09:42,879 --> 01:09:45,379
Like, you'd have… They might have
to adapt them a little bit, but
1546
01:09:45,379 --> 01:09:51,869
like the, it's a, it's a completely
probabilistic, uh, outcome for, for,
1547
01:09:52,179 --> 01:09:57,089
uh, AI versus like a deterministic
outcome for most other computing.
1548
01:09:57,569 --> 01:09:57,919
So,
1549
01:09:57,949 --> 01:10:04,349
I feel like that they're trying to push
quantum to like reduce overhead for AI.
1550
01:10:04,409 --> 01:10:07,879
I would imagine that's probably
what, what's going on here.
1551
01:10:09,186 --> 01:10:12,036
uh, there's, there's no AI
disclosure mentioned, so I don't
1552
01:10:12,036 --> 01:10:16,136
know for certain if this is being
used to, like, run AI, but I know-
1553
01:10:17,194 --> 01:10:22,544
Well, it could be for AI in games,
what we think of, not generative
1554
01:10:23,971 --> 01:10:28,641
Yeah, I'm thinking, I'm
thinking more like, um, like,
1555
01:10:28,716 --> 01:10:30,766
you meant like more simulation aspects
1556
01:10:31,141 --> 01:10:36,271
Well, IBM's trying to, like, push
quantum computing forward so that
1557
01:10:36,271 --> 01:10:39,921
they have something to sell to
machine learning companies, right?
1558
01:10:39,971 --> 01:10:42,241
That, I think that might
be what's going on here too
1559
01:10:43,241 --> 01:10:43,761
For sure.
1560
01:10:45,231 --> 01:10:48,201
I… It'll be interesting to
see how this all plays out.
1561
01:10:48,231 --> 01:10:51,901
I, I like that they're doing this,
and I, I, I, I don't think it's…
1562
01:10:52,661 --> 01:10:55,641
But then again, you know, what will
quantum com- quantum computing's
1563
01:10:55,671 --> 01:11:01,221
gonna… That will potentially break
the, uh, break things more than
1564
01:11:01,251 --> 01:11:03,251
AI will in the sense of security.
1565
01:11:04,041 --> 01:11:07,961
security-wise, quantum computing is
just, once it becomes standardized,
1566
01:11:08,041 --> 01:11:11,481
it's a whole other fricking mess
1567
01:11:12,617 --> 01:11:12,967
Yeah.
1568
01:11:13,587 --> 01:11:17,297
I mean, we do have algor- like
encryption algorithms that are
1569
01:11:17,297 --> 01:11:19,827
resistant to quantum cracking.
1570
01:11:21,247 --> 01:11:24,667
I mean, theoretically anyway, but
we, like you said, we haven't even
1571
01:11:24,667 --> 01:11:27,917
standardized, uh, quantum computing
1572
01:11:27,965 --> 01:11:28,645
Yeah
1573
01:11:28,997 --> 01:11:29,957
they might not be
1574
01:11:31,057 --> 01:11:32,347
They, the, no, you're not wrong.
1575
01:11:32,357 --> 01:11:35,977
Like, we've, we've, we're preparing for
it and all that, but, like, if, if you
1576
01:11:35,977 --> 01:11:40,437
get a strong enough quantum computer,
can break about anything, depending
1577
01:11:40,437 --> 01:11:42,907
on how you set it up, of course.
1578
01:11:42,927 --> 01:11:45,287
Like, it depends on w- it,
it really depends on what the
1579
01:11:45,287 --> 01:11:46,427
system is that you're breaking.
1580
01:11:47,369 --> 01:11:51,179
Yeah.
1581
01:11:51,527 --> 01:11:52,457
yeah, no, this is cool.
1582
01:11:52,457 --> 01:11:56,437
I w- I'd like to see more and more
systems try to use quantum computing,
1583
01:11:56,437 --> 01:12:01,137
even if it's not the most optimal way,
just to try to find ways to use it and
1584
01:12:01,137 --> 01:12:05,317
see if we have different applications,
um, for it, and see what the outcomes
1585
01:12:05,317 --> 01:12:06,967
come out to be in the few years.
1586
01:12:08,105 --> 01:12:08,365
Yeah
1587
01:12:08,847 --> 01:12:09,597
It's expensive
1588
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:14,539
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm not very
imaginative, so I couldn't imagine what
1589
01:12:14,539 --> 01:12:16,399
quantum computing could do for gaming.
1590
01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:21,399
Like, especially not for a game like this
where it appears to be, like, kind of
1591
01:12:21,399 --> 01:12:25,199
looks like a, like a TRPG almost, if you
look at the, like, gameplay screenshots.
1592
01:12:25,269 --> 01:12:28,699
But I wonder what they would do
for more advanced video games.
1593
01:12:28,699 --> 01:12:32,909
I wonder if there's something they
could do that, like, regular computers
1594
01:12:32,949 --> 01:12:35,589
couldn't do for, like, I don't know,
like an online game or something.
1595
01:12:35,989 --> 01:12:39,059
I don't see, I don't see houses
getting quantum computers anytime soon
1596
01:12:40,059 --> 01:12:40,489
Yeah.
1597
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:41,229
I
1598
01:12:41,356 --> 01:12:42,506
No, it's gonna be on,
1599
01:12:42,549 --> 01:12:42,949
like…
1600
01:12:43,046 --> 01:12:44,016
be at… Yeah.
1601
01:12:44,759 --> 01:12:45,179
Go ahead
1602
01:12:46,126 --> 01:12:46,366
No.
1603
01:12:46,716 --> 01:12:47,336
No, go ahead
1604
01:12:48,153 --> 01:12:50,743
was just gonna say, I don't think
that there is, like, a wide,
1605
01:12:52,833 --> 01:12:58,583
um, market, like, reason for people, like
regular people to have a quantum computer.
1606
01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:05,833
Like, the, the use case is so specific
to, like, military, applications, like
1607
01:13:05,833 --> 01:13:10,363
cracking the, uh, you know, passwords
and stuff, or encryption in general.
1608
01:13:11,793 --> 01:13:15,933
most people are not gonna have a use
case for that, at least until they figure
1609
01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:21,843
out how to run machine learning models
with, you know, a quantum computer.
1610
01:13:22,233 --> 01:13:26,783
And even then, A- OpenAI and
Anthropic keep that for themselves.
1611
01:13:26,783 --> 01:13:29,413
You know, they wouldn't wanna
have that distributed to anyone
1612
01:13:30,393 --> 01:13:34,293
Maybe Hideo Kojima has an
idea for quantum computers.
1613
01:13:34,447 --> 01:13:34,827
with him.
1614
01:13:37,358 --> 01:13:41,098
I don't think quantum computers are
gonna be standardized anytime soon.
1615
01:13:41,098 --> 01:13:41,738
I think it just--
1616
01:13:42,137 --> 01:13:42,227
No
1617
01:13:42,658 --> 01:13:48,938
That's a-- It, it's g- it's gonna be
server or business-based or military
1618
01:13:49,048 --> 01:13:54,038
government-based systems for a long time,
and it just might be-- remain that way.
1619
01:13:54,861 --> 01:13:56,071
Cloud quantum computing
1620
01:13:57,128 --> 01:13:59,188
Yeah, potentially where you
can rent it out a little bit.
1621
01:13:59,188 --> 01:14:05,228
It's gonna be super expensive, um,
until they can, um… There's a couple
1622
01:14:05,228 --> 01:14:06,758
of hurdles they have to get over.
1623
01:14:06,758 --> 01:14:13,928
It's just not-- You can't… It, it--
Think of it as rediscovering the, the
1624
01:14:14,168 --> 01:14:20,498
whole com- um, just… The, the dawn
of computers used to be take up a whole
1625
01:14:20,528 --> 01:14:22,868
room or multiple rooms or a house, right?
1626
01:14:23,778 --> 01:14:25,688
That's what this is
kind of like right now.
1627
01:14:27,408 --> 01:14:31,168
There's just no practicality to a
regular person having one unless,
1628
01:14:31,188 --> 01:14:39,258
you know, you're really in security
and you can program it or pay for
1629
01:14:39,258 --> 01:14:41,498
programming to have the security with it
1630
01:14:43,009 --> 01:14:43,309
Mm-hmm.
1631
01:14:43,759 --> 01:14:45,479
Yeah Yeah.
1632
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:49,700
Some people can correct us if we're
wrong in the comments, of course.
1633
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:50,820
Like, this is interesting.
1634
01:14:51,669 --> 01:14:52,059
Yeah
1635
01:14:52,150 --> 01:14:54,520
there's probably a lot more use
cases, a lot more of that, but
1636
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:55,700
that's just what I've followed.
1637
01:14:55,700 --> 01:14:59,630
This is kinda what it is, and I agree
with Gardner, like, uh, predictive
1638
01:15:01,020 --> 01:15:02,560
or pro- probability, that is.
1639
01:15:03,930 --> 01:15:04,350
So
1640
01:15:04,621 --> 01:15:08,041
it's, uh, it's, it's kinda…
I mean, I don't know.
1641
01:15:08,441 --> 01:15:11,841
I'm not, like, super versed in
it, but that's my take anyway.
1642
01:15:11,841 --> 01:15:13,691
So yeah, let us know in the
comments if we're wrong.
1643
01:15:14,471 --> 01:15:15,961
Um, or right.
1644
01:15:16,051 --> 01:15:16,741
We could be right.
1645
01:15:16,751 --> 01:15:17,421
Who the hell knows?
1646
01:15:17,756 --> 01:15:18,286
Or,
1647
01:15:18,291 --> 01:15:18,581
I know
1648
01:15:18,646 --> 01:15:23,196
better yet, what more you can do with it
or what they're probably doing with it.
1649
01:15:23,236 --> 01:15:24,736
I think that'd be… I wanna learn.
1650
01:15:25,611 --> 01:15:26,111
Yes,
1651
01:15:26,336 --> 01:15:27,046
If you're gonna tell me I'm
1652
01:15:27,081 --> 01:15:27,201
Yes.
1653
01:15:27,346 --> 01:15:28,376
at least tell me why.
1654
01:15:29,131 --> 01:15:32,541
Please, someone from IBM tell
us what, tell us what quantum
1655
01:15:32,571 --> 01:15:34,231
computing can do for video games
1656
01:15:34,876 --> 01:15:35,116
Oh yeah.
1657
01:15:36,696 --> 01:15:38,646
Next episode's sponsored by IBM.
1658
01:15:39,316 --> 01:15:39,476
No
1659
01:15:39,735 --> 01:15:44,125
Maybe, maybe quantum computing can
help solve the problem of tariffs.
1660
01:15:45,651 --> 01:15:48,091
Oh, no, not the tariffs
1661
01:15:48,803 --> 01:15:49,063
yeah.
1662
01:15:49,063 --> 01:15:53,533
We usually save the, the more political
stuff for the bonus show, but, uh, we,
1663
01:15:53,533 --> 01:15:55,333
uh, we wanted to talk about this today.
1664
01:15:55,873 --> 01:15:57,913
Uh, Hi-Tech, tell, tell
us what's happening here
1665
01:15:58,707 --> 01:16:02,337
El Presidente is threatening another
tariff, but this time for video
1666
01:16:02,337 --> 01:16:05,487
game hardware That's the story
1667
01:16:05,900 --> 01:16:10,940
I… Is it because gamers need to get back
to work and stop enjoying their lives?
1668
01:16:10,940 --> 01:16:14,810
Like, they're not wor- you know, already
working 50 hours a week isn't enough
1669
01:16:16,413 --> 01:16:16,773
Yeah.
1670
01:16:16,903 --> 01:16:17,843
That's probably it.
1671
01:16:18,883 --> 01:16:22,803
they just want, uh, an excuse for,
uh, uh, for, you know, Nintendo to
1672
01:16:22,803 --> 01:16:26,563
not return tariffs a- and just use
that to keep it as profit, you know?
1673
01:16:26,981 --> 01:16:29,101
Just in time for GTA VI.
1674
01:16:30,981 --> 01:16:31,481
Now
1675
01:16:32,956 --> 01:16:34,546
Oh, w- that's right, we
haven't even talked about that.
1676
01:16:34,606 --> 01:16:35,896
We should talk about that after this.
1677
01:16:35,896 --> 01:16:39,946
But tariffs, man, they're gonna
get wor- they're not even … Oh,
1678
01:16:39,966 --> 01:16:43,096
I thought that it was struck down,
that they're not even legal anymore,
1679
01:16:43,106 --> 01:16:44,226
like, to do these types of tariffs.
1680
01:16:44,226 --> 01:16:46,046
They have to run through Congress, but
1681
01:16:46,747 --> 01:16:49,047
You think that's ever
stopped El Presidente before?
1682
01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:50,370
That's not…
1683
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:52,960
I know, but that's not how
the balances of power work.
1684
01:16:52,990 --> 01:16:55,960
This is, like, so unpre- like,
so unprecedented and it's odd.
1685
01:16:56,340 --> 01:16:57,170
It's so stupid.
1686
01:16:57,495 --> 01:16:57,715
Yeah.
1687
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,110
This is not how it works, guys.
1688
01:17:01,455 --> 01:17:01,805
Nope,
1689
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:02,220
well
1690
01:17:03,455 --> 01:17:05,385
It's not, but yet here we are.
1691
01:17:06,295 --> 01:17:06,695
We live in a society
1692
01:17:06,794 --> 01:17:08,914
know what… How are
people affording anything?
1693
01:17:08,924 --> 01:17:12,314
Like, this real- honestly, these tariffs
really do hurt channels like, uh,
1694
01:17:12,344 --> 01:17:17,384
YouTube channels like ours and stuff,
and it really does not help anyone.
1695
01:17:17,514 --> 01:17:21,164
'Cause w- like w- do you
guys plan to spend less on
1696
01:17:21,164 --> 01:17:22,314
hardware in the next few years?
1697
01:17:22,334 --> 01:17:25,074
I do, though I just spent a ton of money.
1698
01:17:25,074 --> 01:17:27,024
I did it preemptively
because it's just g- it
1699
01:17:27,097 --> 01:17:27,477
This will be the…
1700
01:17:27,584 --> 01:17:28,234
go up.
1701
01:17:28,717 --> 01:17:31,857
Dude, imagine if the Steam
Machine goes up in price.
1702
01:17:31,857 --> 01:17:36,117
You know how horrible that would be and
how fortunate we'd be to have gotten ours?
1703
01:17:36,622 --> 01:17:39,712
I agree, but it's at least a standard,
meaning, like, even if it goes up to
1704
01:17:39,712 --> 01:17:43,982
$1,500, yeah, that sucks, but that
$1,500 will last you a long time.
1705
01:17:44,667 --> 01:17:48,067
I mean, it's already the stan- it's
already the standard right now, and people
1706
01:17:48,067 --> 01:17:53,887
are still pissed off even though, like, a
similarly specced PC costs a similar price
1707
01:17:55,558 --> 01:17:55,828
Yeah.
1708
01:17:56,318 --> 01:17:57,618
No, you're, you're not wrong.
1709
01:17:58,218 --> 01:18:00,748
I, uh, y- and, and it's
good to be pissed off.
1710
01:18:00,748 --> 01:18:04,348
I just sometimes, like when they first
came out, people were like, "Well, this
1711
01:18:04,368 --> 01:18:07,908
is…" You know, even I was a little,
"Wow, man, they're r- maybe overcharging
1712
01:18:07,908 --> 01:18:12,548
us." And I, I think they could subsidize
if they wanted to, but I don't… I,
1713
01:18:12,618 --> 01:18:14,378
uh, that's a whole other argument.
1714
01:18:14,918 --> 01:18:18,738
At the end of the day, people
need to get mad and start voting,
1715
01:18:18,878 --> 01:18:23,428
and I know that's more for the,
the Patreon episode, but, like, I
1716
01:18:23,458 --> 01:18:24,788
don't think it's wrong to say vote.
1717
01:18:24,888 --> 01:18:30,098
If you don't like getting charged so
much more, artificially by the way,
1718
01:18:30,717 --> 01:18:30,987
Yeah.
1719
01:18:31,138 --> 01:18:33,678
artificially, like for
everything in your life
1720
01:18:34,437 --> 01:18:34,807
Yeah
1721
01:18:35,417 --> 01:18:39,607
It's generous, James, to say being
charged more because we- everybody
1722
01:18:39,607 --> 01:18:44,437
is being screwed right now, not
just by these big companies, but
1723
01:18:44,447 --> 01:18:46,967
by the federal government of the
1724
01:18:47,206 --> 01:18:48,016
Yeah
1725
01:18:48,387 --> 01:18:51,317
And not even Americans,
it's everyone, right?
1726
01:18:51,407 --> 01:18:51,597
Like,
1727
01:18:51,678 --> 01:18:53,298
in the world, and
1728
01:18:53,387 --> 01:18:53,687
Yeah
1729
01:18:53,808 --> 01:18:56,078
honestly, it's, it's
affecting prices everywhere.
1730
01:18:56,088 --> 01:18:59,778
Like, and these are ta- like
especially tariffs are taxes.
1731
01:18:59,778 --> 01:19:03,258
If you don't like taxes, and needless
taxes, where are these taxes going to?
1732
01:19:03,648 --> 01:19:06,648
They've been getting rebated, so this
will probably get rebated back, like,
1733
01:19:06,968 --> 01:19:10,528
or returned back to the big- the
companies, they'll just earn a profit.
1734
01:19:11,325 --> 01:19:11,645
Yes.
1735
01:19:11,898 --> 01:19:12,728
So
1736
01:19:12,775 --> 01:19:13,585
one who's paying them.
1737
01:19:13,868 --> 01:19:18,578
you're paying a tax to game
companies now, which is crazy.
1738
01:19:18,578 --> 01:19:23,348
They're not a government, but they could
just up prices I guess if they wanted to.
1739
01:19:24,027 --> 01:19:24,687
This sucks
1740
01:19:25,565 --> 01:19:25,915
Yeah
1741
01:19:26,078 --> 01:19:26,668
it does suck.
1742
01:19:27,548 --> 01:19:31,258
It does suck, and I
think, I, I don't know.
1743
01:19:31,268 --> 01:19:35,768
Like I'm, I'm… At least games aren't
being ta- uh, are be- aren't being
1744
01:19:37,358 --> 01:19:44,198
tariffed, uh, much if at all n- right now,
so like pre- uh, the way… Technologies,
1745
01:19:44,278 --> 01:19:49,098
and I don't wanna say this, like DLSS
5 and stuff like might make your s- uh,
1746
01:19:49,108 --> 01:19:54,198
systems last longer is nice in that form
or fashion if it's low enough effort.
1747
01:19:54,208 --> 01:19:56,228
Like, not the high-end version of DLSS.
1748
01:19:56,468 --> 01:19:59,728
I, I should just be more like FSR
than DLSS is becoming nicer and nicer
1749
01:19:59,728 --> 01:20:03,388
to where like I can hold onto my
hardware longer, let it, things still
1750
01:20:03,388 --> 01:20:05,978
look somewhat decent, and then games.
1751
01:20:05,978 --> 01:20:09,848
Let's get back to optimizing games
and let's just kinda… I don't know
1752
01:20:09,848 --> 01:20:12,278
if we're ever gonna be able to screw
these companies, say, "Hey, we're not
1753
01:20:12,278 --> 01:20:15,898
gonna buy from you for a long time."
I think the only way you're gonna get
1754
01:20:15,908 --> 01:20:18,798
that is if you have competition to
say, "Hey, I'll only buy from that
1755
01:20:18,808 --> 01:20:21,908
new competitor screw the old one."
1756
01:20:21,958 --> 01:20:25,768
I think that's the only way we're gonna
get out of this, and that's regulations,
1757
01:20:25,788 --> 01:20:26,978
and that's not gonna come for a few years.
1758
01:20:26,978 --> 01:20:27,948
So let's weather it.
1759
01:20:29,008 --> 01:20:29,998
That's my take on this.
1760
01:20:29,998 --> 01:20:30,958
Let's just weather this.
1761
01:20:31,848 --> 01:20:32,328
right.
1762
01:20:33,118 --> 01:20:37,118
If, and honestly, if you vote right this
next, uh, at the, in this midterm which,
1763
01:20:38,028 --> 01:20:43,038
um, i- just vote for the, the candidates
that are going to lower your costs.
1764
01:20:43,038 --> 01:20:43,778
That's all you need to do.
1765
01:20:43,778 --> 01:20:45,648
I'm not gonna say vote
for one side or the other.
1766
01:20:45,698 --> 01:20:48,958
Vote for the candidate that's gonna
lower your costs, and if you get enough
1767
01:20:48,958 --> 01:20:51,958
people in there, it's, it's over I think.
1768
01:20:53,373 --> 01:20:53,653
Yeah
1769
01:20:54,548 --> 01:20:58,558
can then enact what they're supposed to
do and that's block these, 'cause that's
1770
01:20:58,558 --> 01:21:00,148
who's really supposed to be handling this.
1771
01:21:01,148 --> 01:21:04,318
Yeah, I don't think I have much more
to say on this top, truth be told.
1772
01:21:04,318 --> 01:21:08,878
I mean, the, what, what, what more can
we, what more can we say that hasn't
1773
01:21:08,878 --> 01:21:12,618
already been said by multiple people,
including us at multiple different points
1774
01:21:12,618 --> 01:21:15,318
in time back when we did have a tariff?
1775
01:21:16,138 --> 01:21:22,548
But if I recall correctly, last year
we had the tariff, no Rampocalypse.
1776
01:21:23,258 --> 01:21:30,298
Now we have a tariff and a Rampocalypse,
and the war that's still waging on.
1777
01:21:32,198 --> 01:21:32,368
Like,
1778
01:21:32,378 --> 01:21:33,398
that's, that's still happening, right?
1779
01:21:33,398 --> 01:21:33,638
I have-
1780
01:21:34,002 --> 01:21:34,442
by the way.
1781
01:21:34,472 --> 01:21:35,122
These are like,
1782
01:21:35,317 --> 01:21:35,757
Yeah
1783
01:21:35,792 --> 01:21:37,782
of the tariffs might have
looked like they've gone away.
1784
01:21:37,832 --> 01:21:39,902
I don't know if they've
ever fully gone away.
1785
01:21:39,972 --> 01:21:40,322
I don't
1786
01:21:41,854 --> 01:21:45,834
Well, I mean, they may have gone away
for the corporations, but we certainly
1787
01:21:45,854 --> 01:21:47,604
will never see any of those savings
1788
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,870
I never saw anything drop in price
1789
01:21:51,124 --> 01:21:51,654
Yeah
1790
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:52,750
because of the tariffs
1791
01:21:53,731 --> 01:21:55,981
uh, didn't… Wasn't it
Playdate or somebody?
1792
01:21:56,011 --> 01:21:59,741
One of some co- gaming company
actually got the, a tariff refund
1793
01:21:59,751 --> 01:22:03,641
and then sent rebates back to their
customers who paid the tariffs
1794
01:22:03,641 --> 01:22:04,461
Did you hear about that?
1795
01:22:05,276 --> 01:22:05,986
I did hear about that.
1796
01:22:05,986 --> 01:22:10,176
Playdate, uh, the guys that make
like the hand-crank, uh, handheld
1797
01:22:10,708 --> 01:22:11,638
interesting
1798
01:22:12,765 --> 01:22:13,325
So
1799
01:22:13,584 --> 01:22:14,804
I did see that
1800
01:22:15,155 --> 01:22:18,155
Yeah, so Playdate, we've begun
to receive refunds on the
1801
01:22:18,155 --> 01:22:19,985
tariffs we paid in last year.
1802
01:22:20,005 --> 01:22:23,535
On August 20- on August 25th,
2026, we refunded all tariffs
1803
01:22:23,535 --> 01:22:25,205
charged to, to our customers.
1804
01:22:26,095 --> 01:22:27,805
That is how it's done,
1805
01:22:27,966 --> 01:22:29,386
That's good publicity.
1806
01:22:29,776 --> 01:22:30,426
That's good PR.
1807
01:22:32,215 --> 01:22:34,165
Dude, absolutely.
1808
01:22:34,398 --> 01:22:34,718
That's
1809
01:22:34,755 --> 01:22:34,945
you know,
1810
01:22:35,058 --> 01:22:35,748
awesome
1811
01:22:36,585 --> 01:22:36,955
Yeah.
1812
01:22:37,565 --> 01:22:38,555
You love to see it.
1813
01:22:39,518 --> 01:22:40,218
It's rare.
1814
01:22:40,258 --> 01:22:41,278
It's, it's, this is sad.
1815
01:22:41,278 --> 01:22:42,188
It's so rare
1816
01:22:42,525 --> 01:22:43,415
Man, I like that
1817
01:22:44,415 --> 01:22:45,755
I want a chicken on a play date
1818
01:22:46,755 --> 01:22:47,245
Yeah.
1819
01:22:49,055 --> 01:22:52,955
I, I do wanna try one out, but…
Tariffs were stopping until now?
1820
01:22:52,995 --> 01:22:56,115
Uh, no, I'm curious how much the
tariff tax on top of this was.
1821
01:22:57,255 --> 01:22:59,925
'Cause obviously they weren't as
high as what Trump wanted them to
1822
01:22:59,925 --> 01:23:02,615
be, 'cause he was, like, Trump and
his administration were saying, like,
1823
01:23:02,615 --> 01:23:06,915
certain percentages, but they weren't
that high, um, at the end of the day.
1824
01:23:06,915 --> 01:23:09,245
They were still high, they just
weren't as high as they were saying.
1825
01:23:09,635 --> 01:23:10,695
But I'm curious
1826
01:23:11,695 --> 01:23:12,035
Yeah.
1827
01:23:12,782 --> 01:23:14,202
This is also depressing.
1828
01:23:14,232 --> 01:23:15,142
I, I don't know what
1829
01:23:15,208 --> 01:23:17,818
it, it, it is very depressing.
1830
01:23:17,818 --> 01:23:21,268
Can we talk about Grand Theft Auto, which
is not depressing, or have we talked
1831
01:23:21,278 --> 01:23:22,508
about that already and I missed that?
1832
01:23:23,278 --> 01:23:23,648
I zoned
1833
01:23:23,702 --> 01:23:23,862
we
1834
01:23:23,862 --> 01:23:26,782
talked a, we talked a bit
about it in the beginning.
1835
01:23:26,782 --> 01:23:31,732
We talked about how, I mean,
the actual, like, combat kinda
1836
01:23:31,732 --> 01:23:33,222
look, looks improved, but
1837
01:23:33,358 --> 01:23:35,788
trailer though, but I don't
know if we can actually now that
1838
01:23:35,798 --> 01:23:36,588
I wouldn't I
1839
01:23:36,711 --> 01:23:37,291
we can
1840
01:23:37,618 --> 01:23:39,168
I wouldn't risk, I wouldn't risk it.
1841
01:23:39,188 --> 01:23:41,518
Take-Two likes to be super
litigious about this.
1842
01:23:41,518 --> 01:23:46,318
I, I edited a video for Fan the
Deck, uh, that included a l- a, the
1843
01:23:46,328 --> 01:23:52,118
old, like, Red Dead Redemption 1
trailer, and that got copyrighted, so
1844
01:23:52,356 --> 01:23:55,106
show any of their trailers
for Rockstar Games.
1845
01:23:55,146 --> 01:23:55,456
They,
1846
01:23:55,662 --> 01:23:56,292
You, you all
1847
01:23:57,292 --> 01:24:02,072
I don't think I've had issues
with, um, with Remedy, but like
1848
01:24:02,072 --> 01:24:04,442
with Rockstar I've had issues.
1849
01:24:04,689 --> 01:24:05,029
Yeah
1850
01:24:05,322 --> 01:24:07,172
Like every time, every time.
1851
01:24:08,522 --> 01:24:09,972
So fuck, fuck
1852
01:24:10,043 --> 01:24:10,213
can
1853
01:24:10,302 --> 01:24:10,392
them.
1854
01:24:10,693 --> 01:24:16,223
just not forget, we, we cannot
allow ourselves to forget that,
1855
01:24:16,683 --> 01:24:22,473
uh, Rockstar are a bunch of
union-busting criminals and, um, if
1856
01:24:22,473 --> 01:24:25,933
you play, if you buy GTA are a scab.
1857
01:24:27,113 --> 01:24:28,273
We should remember that.
1858
01:24:30,604 --> 01:24:35,344
Well, if you see my Steam account
playing Grand Theft Auto VI in a year
1859
01:24:35,344 --> 01:24:39,024
fr- uh, from the release date, it's
n- I'm not, I, it wasn't me playing it
1860
01:24:39,747 --> 01:24:40,207
Okay.
1861
01:24:40,447 --> 01:24:40,787
All right.
1862
01:24:40,899 --> 01:24:41,199
Steam
1863
01:24:41,447 --> 01:24:43,157
you, but, uh, Goddammit.
1864
01:24:43,927 --> 01:24:44,107
We
1865
01:24:44,204 --> 01:24:44,604
will
1866
01:24:44,937 --> 01:24:45,587
this, right?
1867
01:24:45,607 --> 01:24:47,667
Like, if we want things to improve, we
1868
01:24:47,710 --> 01:24:48,220
I know.
1869
01:24:48,317 --> 01:24:49,167
workers power
1870
01:24:49,930 --> 01:24:50,430
I agree.
1871
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:53,940
I, and I, the, my thing is the more and
more I'm, I'm looking at it, the more and
1872
01:24:53,940 --> 01:24:57,150
more I don't f- I think the only way we're
gonna do that is through regulations.
1873
01:24:58,657 --> 01:24:58,837
Well
1874
01:24:58,910 --> 01:24:59,090
gotta
1875
01:24:59,257 --> 01:24:59,767
I trust
1876
01:24:59,970 --> 01:25:03,720
and, uh, the, the, this endgame
capitalism stuff where p- companies are
1877
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,380
just self-destructing 'cause of profit.
1878
01:25:06,110 --> 01:25:08,240
make so much money, it's so bad.
1879
01:25:08,380 --> 01:25:11,970
We talk about it in the bonus episode,
by the way, just to promote that again
1880
01:25:12,970 --> 01:25:13,850
Ugh, dude.
1881
01:25:14,630 --> 01:25:14,990
don't know.
1882
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:15,510
I don't know.
1883
01:25:15,540 --> 01:25:19,020
I, I'm just gonna give Mad Props
one more time to that's, that's,
1884
01:25:19,031 --> 01:25:19,311
Yeah.
1885
01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:20,930
amazing
1886
01:25:21,281 --> 01:25:24,161
They're the only company…
'Cause I think Costco might do it.
1887
01:25:24,321 --> 01:25:24,941
I don't know
1888
01:25:24,941 --> 01:25:26,481
if, if they are going to though.
1889
01:25:26,501 --> 01:25:27,391
They said they're going to.
1890
01:25:27,391 --> 01:25:29,361
I don't know if they will,
but Playdate's done it
1891
01:25:30,510 --> 01:25:30,810
Yeah
1892
01:25:32,055 --> 01:25:32,425
Yeah.
1893
01:25:32,555 --> 01:25:35,395
Costco says that they want… But they've
been fighting the Trump administration on
1894
01:25:35,395 --> 01:25:40,285
the tariffs stuff anyways, They said, I--
And they have a really good record of who
1895
01:25:40,285 --> 01:25:44,365
bought what, so they should be able to
do refunds, and they have a good avenue
1896
01:25:44,365 --> 01:25:46,365
to do that through your check rebate.
1897
01:25:46,365 --> 01:25:46,865
So we'll see.
1898
01:25:46,885 --> 01:25:50,665
Maybe they will do it, and maybe when
you're, um, renew your membership…
1899
01:25:50,675 --> 01:25:55,185
Well, by the time you get done with your
membership, you get your rebate, which
1900
01:25:55,215 --> 01:25:57,325
mine was almost like $400 this last time.
1901
01:25:57,795 --> 01:26:00,195
And so maybe they'll bump it into there.
1902
01:26:00,275 --> 01:26:00,785
I don't know
1903
01:26:01,785 --> 01:26:04,645
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to know
for certain what's gonna happen
1904
01:26:05,921 --> 01:26:09,911
Nintendo, I get it if you don't have
an easy way to offer the, the refunds
1905
01:26:09,911 --> 01:26:13,011
and if the refunds aren't really big,
it might cost just the same amount
1906
01:26:13,011 --> 01:26:14,701
of money to try to r- offer them.
1907
01:26:14,951 --> 01:26:16,281
Like with Nintendo, I don't know.
1908
01:26:16,431 --> 01:26:19,471
Like they're not… Like if they wanna
be transparent that would help, but
1909
01:26:20,201 --> 01:26:21,521
give something away for free then.
1910
01:26:21,621 --> 01:26:23,701
Use that money, don't pocket
that 'cause you're just
1911
01:26:23,701 --> 01:26:25,611
fucking stealing at that point.
1912
01:26:25,690 --> 01:26:25,970
Yeah.
1913
01:26:26,261 --> 01:26:27,581
In my opinion, it's theft.
1914
01:26:27,611 --> 01:26:33,021
And so d- bare minimum to save
a little face, us something
1915
01:26:34,287 --> 01:26:37,767
So that's why Nintendo is fighting
so hard against that lawsuit
1916
01:26:37,847 --> 01:26:41,577
where, you know, where they're
currently getting sued right now
1917
01:26:42,729 --> 01:26:46,199
I won't, you know, give Bela to just
die by the s- you know, live by the
1918
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:47,899
sword, die by the sword, so, you know
1919
01:26:48,899 --> 01:26:49,249
Yep.
1920
01:26:50,158 --> 01:26:52,438
Ah, wouldn't it be some shit if
Nintendo lost this lawsuit, huh?
1921
01:26:53,782 --> 01:26:54,692
TheBrink
1922
01:26:54,823 --> 01:26:57,453
Well, dude, there's
going to be a reckoning.
1923
01:26:57,863 --> 01:27:05,833
Uh, and it's not gonna be… there
has to be some kind of, like, justice
1924
01:27:05,843 --> 01:27:09,953
brought after, you know, the, the
criminals that are in charge right
1925
01:27:09,953 --> 01:27:11,753
now ha- are taken to account.
1926
01:27:11,783 --> 01:27:14,313
Like, every- Like, and I'm
not just talking about, like,
1927
01:27:14,403 --> 01:27:17,203
officials, I'm talking about,
like, business leaders as well.
1928
01:27:17,573 --> 01:27:22,283
There has to be some kind of
accountability Nintendo's chief among the
1929
01:27:22,313 --> 01:27:23,913
companies that need accountability too
1930
01:27:24,913 --> 01:27:28,893
We just need to figure out a good
way for us to take back the power
1931
01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:29,969
Yeah
1932
01:27:31,125 --> 01:27:34,755
One that's a little less
destructive than say, sawing down
1933
01:27:34,755 --> 01:27:36,585
an entire flagpole, but you know
1934
01:27:37,517 --> 01:27:39,787
Right, which we talked
about in the bonus episode.
1935
01:27:40,337 --> 01:27:45,237
Uh, and so I think, uh, yeah,
that's a good segue to the end.
1936
01:27:45,237 --> 01:27:49,227
If you guys haven't watched the
bonus episode yet, it's available
1937
01:27:49,237 --> 01:27:50,917
for our patrons over on Patreon.
1938
01:27:51,377 --> 01:27:53,857
Uh, those are gonna be linked
down below as well as to our
1939
01:27:53,857 --> 01:27:55,887
website, offtheconsole.com.
1940
01:27:56,787 --> 01:27:59,097
uh, yeah, thank you guys for being here.
1941
01:27:59,097 --> 01:28:03,387
Thank you James and Hi-Tech for, for
the voices of reason with me this week.
1942
01:28:03,397 --> 01:28:04,247
I appreciate you
1943
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,540
yeah,
1944
01:28:05,859 --> 01:28:06,249
You're welcome.
1945
01:28:06,249 --> 01:28:06,909
You're welcome
1946
01:28:07,810 --> 01:28:12,400
for me being the, uh, the doubting Thomas
on stuff or n- uh, or being the opposite
1947
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,680
of being agreeing of the DLSS stuff, but
1948
01:28:16,373 --> 01:28:19,543
No, thank you for putting up
with my, like, ri- ridiculous,
1949
01:28:19,573 --> 01:28:21,603
uh, like, anti-tech extremist.
1950
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:23,210
Yeah.
1951
01:28:23,277 --> 01:28:24,867
A tech YouTuber being
1952
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:26,100
easy to go down that.
1953
01:28:26,863 --> 01:28:27,503
Yeah.
1954
01:28:27,580 --> 01:28:27,740
all the
1955
01:28:27,757 --> 01:28:28,597
Yeah.
1956
01:28:29,297 --> 01:28:31,407
One day tech will be cool again.
1957
01:28:31,843 --> 01:28:32,173
Yeah
1958
01:28:32,357 --> 01:28:34,307
tech outside of video games, that is.
1959
01:28:34,577 --> 01:28:35,847
Video games are still pretty cool
1960
01:28:36,887 --> 01:28:37,457
I, I like
1961
01:28:37,642 --> 01:28:38,172
I agree
1962
01:28:39,231 --> 01:28:40,371
I like the Playdate too.
1963
01:28:40,697 --> 01:28:40,957
But
1964
01:28:41,141 --> 01:28:42,621
Hey, maybe we should
review one of these one day
1965
01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:43,981
Agreed.
1966
01:28:44,231 --> 01:28:48,221
I, I'll have Dash review, or maybe Dash
did review the play date on the site.
1967
01:28:49,441 --> 01:28:51,181
Um, I gotta look it up now.
1968
01:28:51,481 --> 01:28:52,611
I think she might have.
1969
01:28:53,681 --> 01:28:56,131
Um, play date
1970
01:28:57,131 --> 01:28:58,061
What, so
1971
01:28:58,238 --> 01:28:59,288
yeah, yeah.
1972
01:29:00,888 --> 01:29:01,218
We have
1973
01:29:01,269 --> 01:29:01,759
Man
1974
01:29:01,918 --> 01:29:05,748
of ga- a game on there
anyway, which is pretty cool.
1975
01:29:07,108 --> 01:29:09,758
But yeah, with that said, I don't
know, is there anything else
1976
01:29:09,758 --> 01:29:10,928
we wanna talk about before we
1977
01:29:10,938 --> 01:29:11,218
sign
1978
01:29:11,329 --> 01:29:11,639
Yeah.
1979
01:29:12,059 --> 01:29:12,329
I think
1980
01:29:12,512 --> 01:29:13,272
Haven't got much else.
1981
01:29:13,322 --> 01:29:14,642
I think, I think we're good
1982
01:29:15,449 --> 01:29:17,959
If, if, if I- it sounds like I'm
talking over people, it's because
1983
01:29:17,959 --> 01:29:19,979
my internet's been so crappy.
1984
01:29:21,229 --> 01:29:23,629
w- we're in the middle of some
thunderstorms, some other storms.
1985
01:29:23,629 --> 01:29:25,879
I don't know what else is
going on, but just as a
1986
01:29:25,898 --> 01:29:27,828
right like right now?
1987
01:29:28,659 --> 01:29:30,419
Oh, yeah, it's been raining
and thundering the whole time
1988
01:29:31,256 --> 01:29:31,676
Yeah.
1989
01:29:33,326 --> 01:29:33,666
Cool.
1990
01:29:34,126 --> 01:29:35,396
Well, thank you guys.
1991
01:29:35,636 --> 01:29:36,606
We'll see you next week.
1992
01:29:37,707 --> 01:29:38,387
Okay, thanks.
1993
01:29:38,447 --> 01:29:38,807
Peace out.
1994
01:29:38,847 --> 01:29:39,057
Later
1995
01:29:39,712 --> 01:29:40,072
Later
1996
01:29:40,236 --> 01:29:40,386
Later.