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Hello, friends, Steve's Talkton here with you. Welcome to our
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latest video. Today we're going to look into the strange,
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strange case of Bobby Bisom. The truth about Bobby Bisom.
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This case has been covered many times. I'm sure most
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of you are aware of it, but are you aware
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of everything in the case. We don't think so. There's
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some pertinent information that's been left out. Join us for
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this sad, strange case. Bobby Bizop was the only child
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born to Master Sergeant Joseph and Constance Visip on July fourth,
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nineteen forty eight. Joseph was a member of the US
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Air Force and Constance was a homemaker. Bobby was born
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almost completely deaf, and despite making use of the best
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technology and hearing aids that they had available in the
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late nineteen forties, he could still hardly hear anything. He
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relied mostly on sign language and lipreading, but almost no
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other than his parents could understand him. He shrugged it
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off when he was teased by the children, which he
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was a lot. One of Bobby's favorite things to do
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was to go away to camp in the summertime, and
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even at camp, despite being almost deaf, Bobby was always
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not just participating but smiling. And this is despite the
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intense and constant bullying that he had to endure daily
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at these camps. Everyone knows that children can be so
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cruel sometimes. Unfortunately, it was one of these camps that
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would be the center focus of the investigation into what
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happened to this little boy who was only ten years
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old at the time of his strange and mysterious disappearance.
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We just want to let you know that this isn't
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easy to hear. There's some things here that you probably
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haven't heard anywhere else regarding Bobby and his disappearance, and
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it's somewhat shocking. You may even realize that your most
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trusted source for information on missing persons purposely left out
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some of the important detail. Why well, that we don't
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know what we do know, and Ken promises that we
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pride ourselves on not sugarcoating or purposely omitting information. We
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believe that the entire story should be told, even if
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it's extremely dark like this one. Here's the real story,
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the whole story, and the true story of what happened
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to little Bobby Bizop. Let's start at the beginning. Bobby
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was an only child, and as we said, he was
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bullied relentlessly by the other children because of his hearing impairment.
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He was different at a time when, unfortunately, it wasn't
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okay to be different. Despite everything he faced, every single day,
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you wouldn't ever find Bobby without his crooked and somewhat
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gap to smile. You wouldn't find him on the bench
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during the camp softball games, or sitting to the side
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when it was time for fishing. There he would be
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every time front and center and waiting to be a
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part of the other groups of children, despite how they
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bullied and treated him. In August of nineteen fifty eight,
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Bobby was at one of these summer camps. It was
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no different than all the other times he had to
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interact with other children his own age. August tenth, nineteen
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fifty eight, was the day that everything would change forever.
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Bobby would disappear and it would become a very long
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standing mystery as to what exactly happened to him. There
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have been recent developments in this case that we will
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get to later on in this video, but first let's
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go over what was originally said about what happened to
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this little boy on this particular day. Bobby was fishing
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by a place called Cabin Creek while attending a summer
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camp by the Catholic church called Saint Malow's Retreat. Right
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around six pm, a camp counselor approached Bobby told him
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it was time for dinner. Bobby followed the counselor down
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the hill towards where they ate their meals. It's important
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to here that later on this councilor was adamant that
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Bobby was right behind him. When he turned to walk
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down that hill. He said he was absolutely certain that
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this little ten year old boy was following him. However,
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when he reached the camp and turned around, Bobby was
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nowhere in sight. Now, Mountain Meeker's Barren Summit looms to
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the west of Colorado Highway seven between Allen's Park and
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Estes Park. High on the eastern face of the thirteen
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nine hundred and eleven foot peak, Tiny Cabin Creek starts
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far above the tree line, cleaving a slash in the
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mountain as it tumbles down, before meandering through the trees
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as the earth flattens out on the eastern edge of
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the Rocky Mountain National Park. There, the crystal clear water
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trickles through gently rolling forest land before finally slipping past
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Saint Catherine of Santa Chapel, the iconic church on the rock,
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then the Creek Ducks under Colorado Highway seven and Bend's South.
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The land from the edge of the Rocky Boundary to
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the chapel is the home to the Catholic Church's camp,
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Saint Malo, and it's hard to imagine a more beautiful
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and Bucolic place. A headline in the Denver Catholic Register
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in nineteen fifty seven termed it God's Country, and it's
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easy to see why mountain peaks that seem to reach
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the heavens themselves for us. You may otherwise only find
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in a dream babbling brooks and quiet streams where you
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can relax and fill it one with nature and depending
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on what you believe, God himself or whoever your higher
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power is, generations of schoolboys spent summer after summer at
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this very spot. They would swim and shoot, hike and
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camp fish and have fun. The boys will be boys
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mentality was never more fitting than those summers these young
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men and boys spent at this particular camp. At least
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that's what everyone thought was happening at this place just
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a wholesome, good time and a place where young boys
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could lose, make friends, learn about the church, and be themselves.
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Summer Camp closed in the early nineteen eighties and the
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property was converted to Catholic Retreat, a place visited by
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Pope John Paul Second himself during a break from World
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Youth Day. Now, the landscape and buildings have changed dramatically
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since the days of the Summer Camp where Bobby Bisib disappeared,
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but remained very clear in the minds of most of
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the thousands of boys who have come and gone from
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its cabins and woods. While most of the members of
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the long forgotten camp have nothing but fond memories and
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happy thoughts, when Camp Saint Malo comes to mind, there's
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a deep, dark secret that was exposed by some of
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the boys, all men now who have the complete opposite
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reaction when being shown pictures of or even at the
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mention of those Summer Camp days. In order to understand
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the history, and also perhaps to understand why Bobby's disappearance
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was never thoroughly investigated, we have to start at the
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beginning and understand just how this camp came into existence.
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Beginning in nineteen fifteen, the Reverend Joseph Bassetti began taking
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members of the cathedral High School choir and some of
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the altar boys on camping trips that land east to
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Mount Meeker. He was inspired by the Biblical phrase upon
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this Rock I will build my church, and that church
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was built, later donated to the Archdiocese of Denver. In
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nineteen thirty four, a scattering of buildings had been erected,
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and Camp Saint Malo was born, a chapel that greeted visitors.
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The famous Church on the Rock went up the following year,
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and by the nineteen fifties the camp was an extremely
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popular destination for Catholic boys in Colorado. Back in those days,
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there wasn't much oversight in regards to what actually went
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on at a place like this, no mandates or yearly
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check ins with the people funding or running it, and
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no safety guidelines for activities or background checks for workers.
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A boy could almost literally do anything he wanted. A
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hiking and camping program met twice a week to trick
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the high peaks and visit the glaciers in Rocky Mountain
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National Park. The almost always freezing swimming hole offered an
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exhilarating break from the excruciating summer heat. There was basketball, handball, tennis,
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and bad mitton courts, as well as archery and rifle ranges,
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and even a craft shop where boys could construct model
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airplanes or take on other projects. Cabin Creek and the
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beaver ponds in the immediate area back and the boys
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and their fishing rods. Over the years, a routine was
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eventually established, and things seemed, at least from the outside
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looking in, to be running quite smoothly. Camp Saint Malo
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was an absolute success, or was it. The Denver Catholic
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Register hyped the camp incessantly with endless stories about the
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wholesome fun that awaited boys there. One story even reported
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that quote, big tasty hamburgers are a welcome site to
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any growing boy. But when they're cooked outdoors over a
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big fire, where cool mountain breezes cauld haved or flavor
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to the burghers, there is no holding them back in
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The quote sounds wonderful, doesn't it now. Back in nineteen
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fifty eight, the fee to attend the camp was thirty
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eight dollars per week. Doesn't seem like much now, but
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that's about three hundred and sixty six dollars in today's
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money quite a lot back then, and if you wanted
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your son to be able to get some horseback riding in,
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it was just a few dollars more. Reverend Richard Heister
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took over as the camp's director sometime in the fifties
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after Reverend but said he was no longer able to
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hold the title. His nephew shared some fond memories of
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his experiences at the camp. He went every year as
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a boy, and practically gushed as he recounted these memories.
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Later on, when the camp's wholesomeness came under scrutiny, he
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said things like, it was freezing cold. We'd be really cold,
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we hadn't eaten yet, we would have hiked all night
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because we would leave it too in the morning. So
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I remember that ritual, and I remember being there a
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number of times for those twin sisters hikes. He talked
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about how his nose and bled profusely after he tried boxing,
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which is also one of the many sports offered and
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taught by the camp. Reverend Heister would say Mass as
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the sun rose every morning. Most, if not all, the
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counselors at this camp were the seminarians who were studying
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for the priesthood. As the younger Richard Heister shared his
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fondest memories with a smile and laugh. There was one
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memory that stuck out for him above all the rest,
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a memory which made the smile slip right off his
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face and the laugh made from his voice. It was
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the memory of a boy named Bobby Bisum, who was
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visiting camp for the second time that year. As it
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was only a week at a time for most of
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the boys to do, the price being a lot back
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in those days, Bobby had visited three times that year alone.
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Bobby Bissom the only son of Master Sergeant Joseph Bissop
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who disappeared seemingly into thin air and without a trace,
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who everyone thought was perhaps swallowed up by the mountains themselves.
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The search for Bobby extended across four days, with an
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estimated three hundred people searching over sixteen square miles. The
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search included airmen from Denver's Lowry Air Force Base, where
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Bobby's father was stationed. Bloodhound searched the woods, and divers
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even searched the heavier ponds. The search extended up Mount
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Meeker to approximately eleven thousand feet and four miles in
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each direction. There was just no sign of him, only
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his bait box, found about a mile from the creek
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where he was said to have been last seen by
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his counselor. The camp director made multiple statements, always proclaiming
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how sure he was that Bobby was just hiding and
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that he would eventually emerge when everything settled down. He
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thought that perhaps all the attention and authorities around may
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have scared the boy, who maybe had been playing a
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game of hide and seek to try and scare his counselor,
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and now that the game had gone too far and
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the police were involved and other agencies were trapsing about
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trying to find him, perhaps he was just scared he
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would get into trouble, or at least the director made
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it clear that's what he thought. A vacationing physician claimed
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to have seen Bobby walking the streets in Estes Park,
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fifteen miles north of Saint Malo's. Clerks in a Nastaspark
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hardware store also reported seeing a young boy resembling Bobby
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and even tried asking him questions, but he failed to respond,
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pointing to his mouth and ears, sounds kind of like Bobby,
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but he quickly left. What approached it was until almost
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a year later, on June sixth, nineteen fifty nine, than
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any additional clues were found. Three camp counselors from Saint Malos,
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including one who helped lead the original search for Bobby,
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came across part of his hearing aid some scraps of
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clothing and a few bones, all later confirmed to be Bobby's.
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Right around that same time, more of his remains are
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found in a ravine's heavy underbrush just below the timberline
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on Mount Meeker. The ravine and area surrounding it had
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all been part of the original search. The question that
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seemed to be on most people's minds, however, is how
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did Bobby get there? And why wasn't he found during
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the original search. Bobby Bisup allegedly disappeared while heading downhill
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to dinner, very close on the heels of a councilor
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the whole time. Yet his remains were found almost a
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year later, three to three and a half miles away
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from the camp and twenty five hundred feet up Mount Meeker.
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And even for the people that claimed to have seen
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him in EST's Park fifteen miles south of Mount Malo,
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how would he have gotten there? It's true that a
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ten year old boy can be resourceful, But this particular
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boy was hard of hearing, as we said, and didn't
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speak much. He was said to be very hungry when
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the counselor approached him for dinner, and rushing right behind
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to get to the food. Yet he disappeared without a
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trace within a couple of minutes it took him to
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make it down the hill to the chow hall. How
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had the councilor not seen or heard anything? How could
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he possibly not have noticed what happened to Bobby? What
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happened to the rest of him? His body? It hadn't
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been that long after all, even if eaten by wildlife
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in the Rocky Mountains. It's the opinion of many experts
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involved in investigating the case that there should have been
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more of him left behind. Let's fast forward now, as
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we know that while some of Bobby's remains were found,
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there is still so much mystery surrounding this case. The
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rest of this story is rather hard to tell. It's
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an extremely delicate topic, and in fact, some of your
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most trusted sources for information on the missing purposely left
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all of this out. We genuinely hope that it wasn't
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left out to try and make the case seem more
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mysterious than it was and exploit poor Bobby or his family,
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though simply because the reason has just stated that being
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the delicateness of it all. In twenty nineteen, the Colorado
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Attorney General reached an unprecedented agreement with the Archdiocese of Denver,
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the Diocese of Colorado Springs and Ses of Pueblo that
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allowed a former US attorney to examine seven decades of
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church records and publicly exposed priests who had been credibly
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accused of abusing children. The resulting report was unflinching, including
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highly detailed reports on no fewer than forty three Colorado
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priests who abused at least one hundred and sixty six
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children between nineteen fifty and twenty nineteen. It documented the
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systemic failures in the church over the decades, from willingly
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covering up reports of abuse to repeatedly failing to follow
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a state law requiring that those allegations be reported to police.
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The report even stained the once glowing reputation of Camp
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Saint Malo, finding that its founder, Joseph Bassetti, a revered
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figure in the Archdiocese, of Denver repeatedly abused a teenage
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boy back in nineteen forty nine and fifty. It left
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open the possibility that there were others, noting that the
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victim had come forward in two thousand two, but that
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his report was not contained in Joseph Bassetti's file. As
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a result, the port reads quoting here, we are therefore
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not confident that there was no other abuse by Bussetti,
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or that the Denver Archdiocese did not know about it
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before Bassetti abused the teen end quote. But it wasn't
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just the camp's founder who was accused. That same report
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exposed abuse on the grounds of Camp Saint Malow in
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the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. This abuse that was
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exposed was committed by two priests with long ties to
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the camp, men who served as counselors there for years
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while they were studying for the priesthood. One of these
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was later called the most prolific known clergy abuser in
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Colorado history, a man with at least sixty three known victims.
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His name father Harold Robert White. It's alleged and claimed
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that the Denver Archdiocese knew from the outset of Harold
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White's career, that he was abused in this way, they
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did nothing to stop him, and in fact, if this
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report is true, they handed him thousands of boys to
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do these things too, they gave him free reign. Essentially allegedly,
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this makes him one of two seminarians who were counselors
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at Camp Saint Malow that summer that Bobby disappeared who
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have since had accusations of abuse sustained after a twenty
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two month examination of church records by investigators working for
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the Colorado Attorney General's Office. The other priest allegedly exposed
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as this kind of abuser while counseling at the camp
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the day Bobby went missing. His name was Neil Hewitt.
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Neil was accused of abusing at least eighteen children in
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this way during his priesthood. While Harold White died in
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two thousand and six and Neil Hewitt left the priesthood
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in nineteen eighty and married, he did acknowledge that he
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was among the last to see Bobby and was the
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one who found his remains in a gully several miles
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west of the camp. However, during a talk with a
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reporter in twenty nineteen, outside his Arizona home, and again
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on the phone in November, Hewitt said he quote did
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not do anything end quote to Bobby. Mark Has, a
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spokesman for the Archdiocese of Denver, which owned and operated
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Camp Saint Mellow, said there are no records that could
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help explain to what happened to Bobby Bisum. Quoting here,
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he says, this tragic situation occurred sixty two years ago,
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and no one currently working for the archdiocese has any
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direct knowledge of it. He went on to state, we
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are not in a position to respond to speculation about
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something that happened six decades ago. Bobby's disappearance was simply
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treated as a case of a youngster who got lost,
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and a corner even classified his death as likely being
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the result of exhaustion and exposure and termed in an accident.
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It is of note that the Vatican defrocked Neil Hewitt
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in twenty eighteen. In May of twenty twenty one, though
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everything changed dramatically. More than sixty years after his disappearance,
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Bobby's scope was turned over to the FBI by a
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man named Tom mccrowskey. Doctor mccrowsky stated that the skull
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had originally been in the possession of his father, doctor
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Joseph mccrowskey, a prominent member of the Catholic Church and
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a close friend of the priest who was running Camp
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Saint Mallow when the little boy vanished. He went on
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to say that his father passed away all the way
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back in nineteen eighty, but not before giving it to
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him and telling that it could possibly be the skull
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of a little boy who disappeared from the camp. Nobody
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knows much else, and as far as doctor mccrowsky is stating,
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he doesn't know anything else either. There are obvious questions though.
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If he was given the skull in nineteen eighty and
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told that it could belong to a missing boy, then
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why did he only hand it over all these years later.
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He claims that throughout the years he figured out that
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the boy was more than likely Bobby Bisop, and that
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he searched for articles in further information regarding the boy
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in the case. He also claims he couldn't find anything
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in all that time until twenty t twenty one, when
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he finally came forward to the FBI. He had kept
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the skull stored in a paper bag in his basement
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almost the entire time since his father had given it
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to him all those years ago, back in nineteen eighty. Nowadays,
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if you visit Mountain Meeker, you won't hear the laughing
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of a bunch of school aged boys playing around in
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the nearby waters and woods. You won't run into them
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as you go down to fish in one of the streams.
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There's no sign at all that way back when there
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was a summer camp here run by Catholic priests. There
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will only be the majesty of the mountains themselves, and
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the beautiful silence you can only find on the mountain
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and deepen the woods surrounding them. There is another silence
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we want you to consider, though, the silence of the
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Catholic Church, as it's alleged they kept those priests in
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seminary and secrets throughout all these years. The silence of
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the doctor who, though he had the knowledge of a
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little boy who allegedly went missing without a trace, on
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his way to get some dinner, chose or or at
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least it seems to keep that seecert to himself for
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many years as well, maybe too, the silence of some
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of those aforementioned trusted sources for information on disappearance, possibly
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in the selfish interest of making certain vanishings and death
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seem more mysterious and strange. We won't be silent, though, folks.
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Here are the facts and allegations as they've been presented,
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raw and sad and shameful on so many different levels.
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If we've come to know them. Our heart goes out
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to any victims of any crime or any kind of injustice,
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to the families who have no answers, despite someone out
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there somewhere always knowing what really happened. And to Bobby
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Bisop and his family with the terrible and incredible justice
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he and they were done and had to endure for
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all these years. It's absolutely unimaginable. It seems there may
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be hope for an answer soon as the case has
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been reopened since the FBI obtained what they believed to
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be Bobby's let's go. Let's just hope and pray it's
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not too late for justice to be served and for
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the spirit of little Bobby Bisop to finally be able
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to rest in peace. I look forward to your comments,
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but please keep it friendly and respectful. Be good to
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yourselves and each other. Stay safe out there. If you
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see something, say something. Somewhere someone knows the truth in
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a lot of these cases we cover, and I'll see
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just a little farther on down the trail, I'm Steve Stockton,
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and I'll talk to you next time.
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Hello, friends, Steve's Talkton here with you. Welcome to our
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latest video. Today we're going to look into the strange,
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strange case of Bobby Bisom. The truth about Bobby Bisom.
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This case has been covered many times. I'm sure most
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of you are aware of it, but are you aware
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of everything in the case. We don't think so. There's
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some pertinent information that's been left out. Join us for
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this sad, strange case. Bobby Bizop was the only child
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born to Master Sergeant Joseph and Constance Visip on July fourth,
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nineteen forty eight. Joseph was a member of the US
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Air Force and Constance was a homemaker. Bobby was born
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almost completely deaf, and despite making use of the best
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technology and hearing aids that they had available in the
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late nineteen forties, he could still hardly hear anything. He
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relied mostly on sign language and lipreading, but almost no
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other than his parents could understand him. He shrugged it
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off when he was teased by the children, which he
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was a lot. One of Bobby's favorite things to do
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was to go away to camp in the summertime, and
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even at camp, despite being almost deaf, Bobby was always
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not just participating but smiling. And this is despite the
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intense and constant bullying that he had to endure daily
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at these camps. Everyone knows that children can be so
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cruel sometimes. Unfortunately, it was one of these camps that
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would be the center focus of the investigation into what
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happened to this little boy who was only ten years
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old at the time of his strange and mysterious disappearance.
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We just want to let you know that this isn't
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easy to hear. There's some things here that you probably
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haven't heard anywhere else regarding Bobby and his disappearance, and
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it's somewhat shocking. You may even realize that your most
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trusted source for information on missing persons purposely left out
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some of the important detail. Why well, that we don't
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know what we do know, and Ken promises that we
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pride ourselves on not sugarcoating or purposely omitting information. We
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believe that the entire story should be told, even if
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it's extremely dark like this one. Here's the real story,
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the whole story, and the true story of what happened
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to little Bobby Bizop. Let's start at the beginning. Bobby
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was an only child, and as we said, he was
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bullied relentlessly by the other children because of his hearing impairment.
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He was different at a time when, unfortunately, it wasn't
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okay to be different. Despite everything he faced, every single day,
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you wouldn't ever find Bobby without his crooked and somewhat
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gap to smile. You wouldn't find him on the bench
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during the camp softball games, or sitting to the side
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when it was time for fishing. There he would be
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every time front and center and waiting to be a
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part of the other groups of children, despite how they
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bullied and treated him. In August of nineteen fifty eight,
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Bobby was at one of these summer camps. It was
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no different than all the other times he had to
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interact with other children his own age. August tenth, nineteen
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fifty eight, was the day that everything would change forever.
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Bobby would disappear and it would become a very long
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standing mystery as to what exactly happened to him. There
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have been recent developments in this case that we will
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get to later on in this video, but first let's
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go over what was originally said about what happened to
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this little boy on this particular day. Bobby was fishing
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by a place called Cabin Creek while attending a summer
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camp by the Catholic church called Saint Malow's Retreat. Right
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around six pm, a camp counselor approached Bobby told him
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it was time for dinner. Bobby followed the counselor down
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the hill towards where they ate their meals. It's important
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to here that later on this councilor was adamant that
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Bobby was right behind him. When he turned to walk
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down that hill. He said he was absolutely certain that
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this little ten year old boy was following him. However,
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when he reached the camp and turned around, Bobby was
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nowhere in sight. Now, Mountain Meeker's Barren Summit looms to
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the west of Colorado Highway seven between Allen's Park and
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Estes Park. High on the eastern face of the thirteen
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nine hundred and eleven foot peak, Tiny Cabin Creek starts
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far above the tree line, cleaving a slash in the
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mountain as it tumbles down, before meandering through the trees
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as the earth flattens out on the eastern edge of
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the Rocky Mountain National Park. There, the crystal clear water
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trickles through gently rolling forest land before finally slipping past
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Saint Catherine of Santa Chapel, the iconic church on the rock,
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then the Creek Ducks under Colorado Highway seven and Bend's South.
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The land from the edge of the Rocky Boundary to
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the chapel is the home to the Catholic Church's camp,
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Saint Malo, and it's hard to imagine a more beautiful
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and Bucolic place. A headline in the Denver Catholic Register
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in nineteen fifty seven termed it God's Country, and it's
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easy to see why mountain peaks that seem to reach
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the heavens themselves for us. You may otherwise only find
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in a dream babbling brooks and quiet streams where you
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can relax and fill it one with nature and depending
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on what you believe, God himself or whoever your higher
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power is, generations of schoolboys spent summer after summer at
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this very spot. They would swim and shoot, hike and
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camp fish and have fun. The boys will be boys
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mentality was never more fitting than those summers these young
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men and boys spent at this particular camp. At least
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that's what everyone thought was happening at this place just
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a wholesome, good time and a place where young boys
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could lose, make friends, learn about the church, and be themselves.
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Summer Camp closed in the early nineteen eighties and the
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property was converted to Catholic Retreat, a place visited by
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Pope John Paul Second himself during a break from World
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Youth Day. Now, the landscape and buildings have changed dramatically
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since the days of the Summer Camp where Bobby Bisib disappeared,
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but remained very clear in the minds of most of
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the thousands of boys who have come and gone from
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its cabins and woods. While most of the members of
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the long forgotten camp have nothing but fond memories and
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happy thoughts, when Camp Saint Malo comes to mind, there's
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a deep, dark secret that was exposed by some of
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the boys, all men now who have the complete opposite
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reaction when being shown pictures of or even at the
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mention of those Summer Camp days. In order to understand
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the history, and also perhaps to understand why Bobby's disappearance
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was never thoroughly investigated, we have to start at the
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beginning and understand just how this camp came into existence.
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Beginning in nineteen fifteen, the Reverend Joseph Bassetti began taking
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members of the cathedral High School choir and some of
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the altar boys on camping trips that land east to
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Mount Meeker. He was inspired by the Biblical phrase upon
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this Rock I will build my church, and that church
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was built, later donated to the Archdiocese of Denver. In
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nineteen thirty four, a scattering of buildings had been erected,
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and Camp Saint Malo was born, a chapel that greeted visitors.
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The famous Church on the Rock went up the following year,
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and by the nineteen fifties the camp was an extremely
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popular destination for Catholic boys in Colorado. Back in those days,
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there wasn't much oversight in regards to what actually went
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on at a place like this, no mandates or yearly
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check ins with the people funding or running it, and
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no safety guidelines for activities or background checks for workers.
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A boy could almost literally do anything he wanted. A
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hiking and camping program met twice a week to trick
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the high peaks and visit the glaciers in Rocky Mountain
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National Park. The almost always freezing swimming hole offered an
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exhilarating break from the excruciating summer heat. There was basketball, handball, tennis,
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and bad mitton courts, as well as archery and rifle ranges,
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and even a craft shop where boys could construct model
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airplanes or take on other projects. Cabin Creek and the
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beaver ponds in the immediate area back and the boys
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and their fishing rods. Over the years, a routine was
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eventually established, and things seemed, at least from the outside
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looking in, to be running quite smoothly. Camp Saint Malo
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was an absolute success, or was it. The Denver Catholic
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Register hyped the camp incessantly with endless stories about the
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wholesome fun that awaited boys there. One story even reported
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that quote, big tasty hamburgers are a welcome site to
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any growing boy. But when they're cooked outdoors over a
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big fire, where cool mountain breezes cauld haved or flavor
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to the burghers, there is no holding them back in
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The quote sounds wonderful, doesn't it now. Back in nineteen
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fifty eight, the fee to attend the camp was thirty
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eight dollars per week. Doesn't seem like much now, but
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that's about three hundred and sixty six dollars in today's
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money quite a lot back then, and if you wanted
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your son to be able to get some horseback riding in,
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it was just a few dollars more. Reverend Richard Heister
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took over as the camp's director sometime in the fifties
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after Reverend but said he was no longer able to
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hold the title. His nephew shared some fond memories of
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his experiences at the camp. He went every year as
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a boy, and practically gushed as he recounted these memories.
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Later on, when the camp's wholesomeness came under scrutiny, he
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said things like, it was freezing cold. We'd be really cold,
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we hadn't eaten yet, we would have hiked all night
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because we would leave it too in the morning. So
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I remember that ritual, and I remember being there a
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number of times for those twin sisters hikes. He talked
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about how his nose and bled profusely after he tried boxing,
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which is also one of the many sports offered and
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taught by the camp. Reverend Heister would say Mass as
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the sun rose every morning. Most, if not all, the
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counselors at this camp were the seminarians who were studying
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for the priesthood. As the younger Richard Heister shared his
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fondest memories with a smile and laugh. There was one
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memory that stuck out for him above all the rest,
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a memory which made the smile slip right off his
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face and the laugh made from his voice. It was
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the memory of a boy named Bobby Bisum, who was
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visiting camp for the second time that year. As it
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was only a week at a time for most of
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the boys to do, the price being a lot back
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in those days, Bobby had visited three times that year alone.
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Bobby Bissom the only son of Master Sergeant Joseph Bissop
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who disappeared seemingly into thin air and without a trace,
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who everyone thought was perhaps swallowed up by the mountains themselves.
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The search for Bobby extended across four days, with an
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estimated three hundred people searching over sixteen square miles. The
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search included airmen from Denver's Lowry Air Force Base, where
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Bobby's father was stationed. Bloodhound searched the woods, and divers
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even searched the heavier ponds. The search extended up Mount
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Meeker to approximately eleven thousand feet and four miles in
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each direction. There was just no sign of him, only
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his bait box, found about a mile from the creek
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where he was said to have been last seen by
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his counselor. The camp director made multiple statements, always proclaiming
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how sure he was that Bobby was just hiding and
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that he would eventually emerge when everything settled down. He
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thought that perhaps all the attention and authorities around may
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have scared the boy, who maybe had been playing a
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game of hide and seek to try and scare his counselor,
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and now that the game had gone too far and
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the police were involved and other agencies were trapsing about
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trying to find him, perhaps he was just scared he
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would get into trouble, or at least the director made
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it clear that's what he thought. A vacationing physician claimed
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to have seen Bobby walking the streets in Estes Park,
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fifteen miles north of Saint Malo's. Clerks in a Nastaspark
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hardware store also reported seeing a young boy resembling Bobby
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and even tried asking him questions, but he failed to respond,
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pointing to his mouth and ears, sounds kind of like Bobby,
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but he quickly left. What approached it was until almost
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a year later, on June sixth, nineteen fifty nine, than
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any additional clues were found. Three camp counselors from Saint Malos,
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including one who helped lead the original search for Bobby,
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came across part of his hearing aid some scraps of
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clothing and a few bones, all later confirmed to be Bobby's.
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Right around that same time, more of his remains are
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found in a ravine's heavy underbrush just below the timberline
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on Mount Meeker. The ravine and area surrounding it had
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all been part of the original search. The question that
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seemed to be on most people's minds, however, is how
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did Bobby get there? And why wasn't he found during
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the original search. Bobby Bisup allegedly disappeared while heading downhill
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to dinner, very close on the heels of a councilor
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the whole time. Yet his remains were found almost a
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year later, three to three and a half miles away
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from the camp and twenty five hundred feet up Mount Meeker.
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And even for the people that claimed to have seen
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him in EST's Park fifteen miles south of Mount Malo,
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how would he have gotten there? It's true that a
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ten year old boy can be resourceful, But this particular
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boy was hard of hearing, as we said, and didn't
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speak much. He was said to be very hungry when
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the counselor approached him for dinner, and rushing right behind
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to get to the food. Yet he disappeared without a
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trace within a couple of minutes it took him to
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make it down the hill to the chow hall. How
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had the councilor not seen or heard anything? How could
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he possibly not have noticed what happened to Bobby? What
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happened to the rest of him? His body? It hadn't
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been that long after all, even if eaten by wildlife
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in the Rocky Mountains. It's the opinion of many experts
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involved in investigating the case that there should have been
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more of him left behind. Let's fast forward now, as
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we know that while some of Bobby's remains were found,
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there is still so much mystery surrounding this case. The
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rest of this story is rather hard to tell. It's
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an extremely delicate topic, and in fact, some of your
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most trusted sources for information on the missing purposely left
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all of this out. We genuinely hope that it wasn't
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left out to try and make the case seem more
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mysterious than it was and exploit poor Bobby or his family,
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though simply because the reason has just stated that being
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the delicateness of it all. In twenty nineteen, the Colorado
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Attorney General reached an unprecedented agreement with the Archdiocese of Denver,
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the Diocese of Colorado Springs and Ses of Pueblo that
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allowed a former US attorney to examine seven decades of
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church records and publicly exposed priests who had been credibly
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accused of abusing children. The resulting report was unflinching, including
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highly detailed reports on no fewer than forty three Colorado
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priests who abused at least one hundred and sixty six
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children between nineteen fifty and twenty nineteen. It documented the
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systemic failures in the church over the decades, from willingly
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covering up reports of abuse to repeatedly failing to follow
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a state law requiring that those allegations be reported to police.
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The report even stained the once glowing reputation of Camp
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Saint Malo, finding that its founder, Joseph Bassetti, a revered
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figure in the Archdiocese, of Denver repeatedly abused a teenage
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boy back in nineteen forty nine and fifty. It left
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open the possibility that there were others, noting that the
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victim had come forward in two thousand two, but that
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his report was not contained in Joseph Bassetti's file. As
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a result, the port reads quoting here, we are therefore
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not confident that there was no other abuse by Bussetti,
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or that the Denver Archdiocese did not know about it
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before Bassetti abused the teen end quote. But it wasn't
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just the camp's founder who was accused. That same report
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exposed abuse on the grounds of Camp Saint Malow in
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the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties. This abuse that was
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exposed was committed by two priests with long ties to
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the camp, men who served as counselors there for years
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while they were studying for the priesthood. One of these
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was later called the most prolific known clergy abuser in
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Colorado history, a man with at least sixty three known victims.
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His name father Harold Robert White. It's alleged and claimed
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that the Denver Archdiocese knew from the outset of Harold
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White's career, that he was abused in this way, they
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did nothing to stop him, and in fact, if this
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report is true, they handed him thousands of boys to
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do these things too, they gave him free reign. Essentially allegedly,
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this makes him one of two seminarians who were counselors
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at Camp Saint Malow that summer that Bobby disappeared who
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have since had accusations of abuse sustained after a twenty
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two month examination of church records by investigators working for
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the Colorado Attorney General's Office. The other priest allegedly exposed
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as this kind of abuser while counseling at the camp
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the day Bobby went missing. His name was Neil Hewitt.
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Neil was accused of abusing at least eighteen children in
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this way during his priesthood. While Harold White died in
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two thousand and six and Neil Hewitt left the priesthood
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in nineteen eighty and married, he did acknowledge that he
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was among the last to see Bobby and was the
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one who found his remains in a gully several miles
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west of the camp. However, during a talk with a
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reporter in twenty nineteen, outside his Arizona home, and again
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on the phone in November, Hewitt said he quote did
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not do anything end quote to Bobby. Mark Has, a
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spokesman for the Archdiocese of Denver, which owned and operated
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Camp Saint Mellow, said there are no records that could
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help explain to what happened to Bobby Bisum. Quoting here,
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he says, this tragic situation occurred sixty two years ago,
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and no one currently working for the archdiocese has any
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direct knowledge of it. He went on to state, we
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are not in a position to respond to speculation about
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something that happened six decades ago. Bobby's disappearance was simply
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treated as a case of a youngster who got lost,
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and a corner even classified his death as likely being
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the result of exhaustion and exposure and termed in an accident.
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It is of note that the Vatican defrocked Neil Hewitt
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in twenty eighteen. In May of twenty twenty one, though
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everything changed dramatically. More than sixty years after his disappearance,
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Bobby's scope was turned over to the FBI by a
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man named Tom mccrowskey. Doctor mccrowsky stated that the skull
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had originally been in the possession of his father, doctor
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Joseph mccrowskey, a prominent member of the Catholic Church and
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a close friend of the priest who was running Camp
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Saint Mallow when the little boy vanished. He went on
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to say that his father passed away all the way
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back in nineteen eighty, but not before giving it to
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him and telling that it could possibly be the skull
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of a little boy who disappeared from the camp. Nobody
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knows much else, and as far as doctor mccrowsky is stating,
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he doesn't know anything else either. There are obvious questions though.
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If he was given the skull in nineteen eighty and
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told that it could belong to a missing boy, then
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why did he only hand it over all these years later.
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He claims that throughout the years he figured out that
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the boy was more than likely Bobby Bisop, and that
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he searched for articles in further information regarding the boy
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in the case. He also claims he couldn't find anything
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in all that time until twenty t twenty one, when
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he finally came forward to the FBI. He had kept
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the skull stored in a paper bag in his basement
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almost the entire time since his father had given it
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to him all those years ago, back in nineteen eighty. Nowadays,
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if you visit Mountain Meeker, you won't hear the laughing
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of a bunch of school aged boys playing around in
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the nearby waters and woods. You won't run into them
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as you go down to fish in one of the streams.
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There's no sign at all that way back when there
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was a summer camp here run by Catholic priests. There
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will only be the majesty of the mountains themselves, and
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the beautiful silence you can only find on the mountain
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and deepen the woods surrounding them. There is another silence
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we want you to consider, though, the silence of the
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Catholic Church, as it's alleged they kept those priests in
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seminary and secrets throughout all these years. The silence of
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the doctor who, though he had the knowledge of a
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little boy who allegedly went missing without a trace, on
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his way to get some dinner, chose or or at
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least it seems to keep that seecert to himself for
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many years as well, maybe too, the silence of some
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of those aforementioned trusted sources for information on disappearance, possibly
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in the selfish interest of making certain vanishings and death
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seem more mysterious and strange. We won't be silent, though, folks.
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Here are the facts and allegations as they've been presented,
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raw and sad and shameful on so many different levels.
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If we've come to know them. Our heart goes out
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to any victims of any crime or any kind of injustice,
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to the families who have no answers, despite someone out
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there somewhere always knowing what really happened. And to Bobby
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Bisop and his family with the terrible and incredible justice
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he and they were done and had to endure for
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all these years. It's absolutely unimaginable. It seems there may
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be hope for an answer soon as the case has
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been reopened since the FBI obtained what they believed to
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be Bobby's let's go. Let's just hope and pray it's
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not too late for justice to be served and for
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the spirit of little Bobby Bisop to finally be able
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to rest in peace. I look forward to your comments,
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but please keep it friendly and respectful. Be good to
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yourselves and each other. Stay safe out there. If you
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see something, say something. Somewhere someone knows the truth in
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a lot of these cases we cover, and I'll see
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just a little farther on down the trail, I'm Steve Stockton,
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and I'll talk to you next time.
