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Story by story, heart by heart, this is how the world gets a little kinder.
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Hi, I'm Connie Warden.
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Welcome to the Mindful Kindful Living Podcast, where we really talk about what it means to be genuine, be authentic, have some grace, even when life gets messy.
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I'm also the author of Speeding to Compassion, Life Lessons, and Jimmer to the High Road.
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And actually, this podcast is an extension of that.
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All right, so welcome, welcome.
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Today's guest is someone I've had the joy of knowing for almost 20 years.
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And in that time, she has found at least three of my cats with her intuitive gifts.
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And we might talk a little bit more about that later.
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She's helped me see myself more clearly with her intuitive gifts and has shown me what it's like to live and give generously from the heart.
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Brian Gallagher is an intuitive mindset coach who works with successful women, executives, empathic leaders, and purpose-driven professionals who wake up one day and all of a sudden realize they have outgrown the life that they had that they designed from their younger self.
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So using intuitive insight, psychic skills, and guided visualization, Fran helps women untangle from the old expectation, reclaim their spiritual alignment, and step into a life that finally matches who are they, who they are becoming.
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And she also teaches people how to do this themselves.
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She's got a great program that I've been through called Shine, the program and intuition.
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And this is going to help people to access their own inner wisdom and their own inner intuition.
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And hopefully we'll talk a little bit more about that.
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So welcome, my dear friend, Fran Gallagher.
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Thank you so much, my dear friend and colleague, Connie Warden.
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Thank you so much for having me here.
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You bet.
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I'm so excited because I know your talent.
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And anyway, so my first question is gonna be what if no one's really understood what it like it's like to be coached through an intuitive coach?
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What would that look like?
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Well, my joke about it is that coaching is about asking questions that trigger insights and realizations for a client.
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Intuitive coaching means that I ask questions, but I also answer some of them.
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Oh wow, that's pretty good.
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I love that.
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So I receive information while we are chatting, and none of the time we spend chatting in an intuitive mindset coaching session is wasted.
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It's all that I am watching for, listening for, feeling, knowing into what might come up.
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So a story that comes to my mind where the person themselves was not my client, but a man and woman came to me for the woman.
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And the man sat behind the woman because of the way that the room was arranged.
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And while I was working with the woman, a horse entered the room.
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So you and your listeners are going to have to understand that what we're talking about is the liminal world, the imaginative aspect of the spiritual.
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So an actual physical horse did not walk into the room, but a like a hologram of a horse walked into the room.
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So I paused with working with the woman and I turned to the man and said, Why did a horse just walk into the room?
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And he said, Oh, I just decided to sign up for equine coaching training.
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Wow.
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Wow, that is amazing.
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So there's all kinds of things going on when we're working together.
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And you know, sometimes I think I might make this up, but I think my clients kind of wish we were friends and they didn't have to pay me sometimes.
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But but what they don't understand is that we have to have a formal agreement and formal exchange of some kind, even if it doesn't involve a financial transfer, because I have to A, have permission, B, we have to have some structure for what we're doing.
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And C, I try to give that kind of attention to my friends, but to be honest, it's when I'm sitting in my professional self that I can bring the most focus to my clients.
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Okay.
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This wasn't on a list of questions, but do you want to talk at all about kind of your childhood and how you grew up as somebody who was very intuitive as a very young age?
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Oh, sure.
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Thank you, Connie.
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So the bad part was that I grew up in a family, in a household where there was abuse and neglect.
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My mother put me and my younger brother in a playroom most of the day.
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She brought us out to give us lunch, put us back in, brought us out for a nap, or maybe those two followed one another, put us back in.
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And I was raised to never ask questions.
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I wasn't allowed to ask questions.
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But if you've ever spent any time with a little kid, you know that all they do is ask questions.
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So I don't remember how that was conditioned in me to not ask questions.
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But I did not look for any outside assistance.
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So that's the bad part.
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But the good part is that I saw non-physical beings.
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And because I didn't have anyone to ask, I had no one telling me that they're not there.
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So for instance, I had a knight in armor who stood outside my bedroom door.
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And I was afraid of him.
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My mom taught me how to make my bed.
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And she kept thinking that I didn't know how to make my bed.
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But the problem was that I had to run past this night to get in my room and make the bed and then run back out past the night.
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And now I believe that night was assigned to me for protection.
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I think I have been a fearless person in this world, and we can also translate that to reckless and for part of my life.
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And I think I was usually assigned a protector.
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So I grew up with this track of what was going on that was non-physical, and then another track that was more logical and rational.
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And I think my dad helped me remember these things because he used to ask me about the things I saw.
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And he just thought I had an active imagination.
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So those conversations at the dinner table with all of us, I'm one of seven.
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And of course, there weren't always seven because I'm a middle child.
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So some of them had to come along after a while.
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But those memories are what preserved this intuitive access for me.
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And I tried to deny it and ignore it.
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But when I got my first job at a burger place, and I had bought a book on palm reading from the Scholastic Book Club.
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I don't know if you remember that.
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Oh, yes.
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And it was fourth grade, and I was trying to memorize everything from the book, and I failed.
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So then when I was a teenager, I would drink too much.
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And as a party trick, as a joke, I would read people's palms and make things up, and it would be hilarious.
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So I came in, I opened the burger place in the morning, and my manager came in a little later and he said, What did you do last night?
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And I said, I drank too much and I read palms.
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And he said, Well, read my palms.
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And I said, No, you don't understand.
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It's a joke.
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I don't really read poems.
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He said, No, read my palms.
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And he stuck his hands in front of me.
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Well, I looked at his hands and I turned away.
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I said, I don't really read poems.
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And he said, No, you saw something.
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What did you see?
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And I said, I saw cameras on a workbench.
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Who would keep cameras on a workbench?
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And he went dead white and said, My hobby is making cameras.
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I have cameras all over my workbench at home.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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So it shocked me just as much as it shocked him.
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And I have spent my life coming to terms with the way this brain works, the way I work, um, still working on it.
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Yeah, we work on ourselves until we stop breathing.
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Tell me maybe if a story comes to mind about the exact kind of a person that you work with as far as some a woman who's like, wow, this is the life I designed, but not it's not working for me anymore.
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Do you have any like just off the off your top of your head, a couple of stories?
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Well, I think it almost describes everyone I work with to some extent.
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And sometimes it's a man.
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Sometimes men have had in in some cases more opportunities to build wealth, make choices based on uh, to be honest, a higher level of income, and they set up a life, maybe that with a partner, and their needs are simply not being met.
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And it's very hard for them to face this because everything is perfect as they had imagined it, but it isn't perfect as far as them getting their needs met.
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Yeah, I think we all probably have faced that.
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Like, you know, what we want in our 20s, maybe even 20s and 30s, changes.
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And in fact, I had uh since COVID, since I kind of closed my office down and my acupuncture office, and what do I want to really do?
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And so I tried a couple different things.
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One was do nothing.
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Well, first of all, I felt at peace finally in my soul, and I thought I could just feel peace, but I knew my calling wasn't just to do nothing and just enjoy reading books and walking or whatever.
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Yeah, I all right.
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Okay.
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So in your bio, you said that you believe that moving towards healing and wholeness, you have to include our spirituality, and that the language of the spiritual is intuition.
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Can you say more about that?
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So when I was in fifth grade, I was with in Mrs.
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LaBera's class, math class.
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You remember the teacher's name.
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Yes.
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And we were passing cooties and we were giggling, and she realized something was going on, and she called on someone, and this was in a Catholic elementary school, and you had to stand up, you couldn't just answer from your desk.
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You had to stand up and stand beside the desk and say, Yes, Mrs.
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Libera, or yes, sister Mary Benjamin's or whatever.
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And that was my dad's joking name for a nun.
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And so someone stood up next to their desk and said, Yes, Mrs.
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Libera, we're passing cooties.
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And Mrs.
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Libera said, Well, bring them all up here and put them on my desk.
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Well, the class exploded in laughter because cooties are not a real thing.
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And what I have found is that spirituality is ephemeral, it is eventescent.
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And if you don't have your intuition open, you can't perceive it.
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So learning intuition is a way of using your inner senses to look at the screen of your mind.
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Now, some people don't have a screen of their mind.
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It's very rare, but it can happen.
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Or listen for what you hear inside your own head.
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Or notice what you are feeling, notice what you are knowing in the moment, not necessarily thinking, it's a knowing.
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I have all the inner senses.
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So all the senses that we use to experience our external world, I have internally.
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And by the way, the band The Doors was named after a book by Aldus Huxley called The Doors of Perception.
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And what Aldus Huxley was talking about is opening these inner senses that he called the doors of perception.
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So those of your listeners who are into the esoteric world, you know these as clairvoyance, clairoriance, and so on, clairsentience.
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These are some people call them the clairs, but they are the internal senses that are clear for some of us.
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And one of the things I do when I teach intuition or when I work with a client in my intuitive mindset practice, I have them notice what they are experiencing.
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And they may not at first realize what we're doing, but we're starting to notice what senses they have that are open.
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Yes, and this is really important.
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And of course, you know, I did take your shine a class and maybe even a couple times.
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And even though I've been working with my intuition for a long time, I still learned a lot.
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And I have that knowing.
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But I I've also had other senses like smelling smoke.
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I remember that I'm like, God, I smell smoke.
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And you know what smells like this bar I used to go to at the University of Wisconsin.
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And I'm like, what?
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Why am I smelling it?
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And I look up at the car in front of me, and they're smoking, I think they're smoking pot.
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And there, you can, I could just see what was going on.
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They were laughing.
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I'm like, I gotta go beyond.
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I changed lanes and looked at that car, and I'm like, man, you should be staying clear of that.
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And so I thought that was interesting.
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That doesn't happen often to me, but every now and then I'll actually smell something that is a maybe a warning or actually connecting to like one time.
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I was, I don't know why I was thinking about my aunt.
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One of my aunts.
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She used to smoke a lot, and of course, I could smell the smoke.
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So that that's really interesting.
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And you're talking about being able to smell the smoke when in the first instance you're in a closed car, in the second instance, you're nowhere near your aunt.
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Correct.
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Well, she had not and just to be clear to our audience, that's what we're talking about.
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We're talking about experiences that cannot be attributed to a rational source.
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Now, the problem with saying that it's it's not rational is that we use that word and we say someone is irrational.
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So it's not irrational either.
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I use the example of you're not going to know why you decided to walk on the other side of the street while you were walking down the street until wily coyote drops in the anvil on the spot where you just were.
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So we're using the term rational in that there is no preceding logical reason for what you're doing.
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There is no logical, rational source for your experience of smelling smoke.
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Okay, I've got a story, and I want you to tell a story about the lady about to go on vacation and decides to take a bath.
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Because I had me and my daughter were going to go paddleboarding.
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We had our swimsuits on, our cover-ups, and I said, I'm gonna go downstairs and check something on my computer.
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And as I'm walking down the steps, I'm going, why am I doing this?
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I suppose it's I don't know, right?
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But I keep going down the steps and I go towards my computer and my cat starts screaming.
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The cat is in trouble.
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And so, in fact, he lost the back use of his back legs and he started peeing.
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So this was if I hadn't been there and hadn't gone down there, this cat would have died very in a very painful way.
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Yeah.
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So we got pot cham, that was pot cham, and we picked him up and took him to.
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He did not live, but at least he died peacefully.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And I still remember walking down the steps going, why am I what am I checking on my computer anyway?
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And I just did it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to attribute something, and you notice if this resonates, and if it doesn't, I understand.
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But I think that was like body level intuition.
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Your body started walking downstairs without the knowing going on.
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And I jokingly say that sometimes intuition lives in our feet and tells us to walk out of that party before everything goes to hell.
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That's pretty good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So tell what I'd love the listeners to hear the story of the couple getting ready to leave across to a different country.
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Not a different country.
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They were going to go away on vacation.
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They were gonna go, I don't know where how far away they were going, but I think it was significant.
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And they were ready to leave, and all of a sudden, my friend had to go and start running a bath.
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And it made no sense.
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And her husband was impatient, and she turns on the hot water, and the hot water heater burst.
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And it was so much better that they knew it then and they could get it taken care of than if they had been gone for a significant portion of time and it had happened and flooded the house while they were gone.
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Yeah, that's like it was it's awesome that somebody actually followed through on something which it could feel irrational, you know.
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Like, why would I take a bath?
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We are getting ready to leave.
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And she did it.
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I must admit, I do those irrational things a great deal.
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And I'm lately I've been concerned about something, and I don't want to be negative, but I'm I'm concerned about some negative consequences.
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It's kind of like, don't forget, you might have this happen.
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And so yesterday I thought about going to a town that's about I think it's about an hour away.
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And I just had the feeling that's not for now, it's not for now, and leave that for another day.
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And I don't want to be negative and rain on my own parade, but I heeded that caution.
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So it's a little bit tricky right now, or one of the things when that if I'm in a relationship, I have to have the person understand that I may need to say or do something that is not with the program all of a sudden.
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Yep.
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And if someone We can't deal with it.
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Well, now you know, you know, sooner than later.
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I just wanted to share the story about my cats that you have found.
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So the first time I remember I had a broken wrist, and you came to meet me at Panera's and you looked at me and I was really like a I mean, I first of all, I was in a victimization role, right?
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At because I oh my poor wrist, you know, and as I never had a broken bone.
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That was my first time.
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And then I also my cat died.
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I'm you know, and I remember saying, Yeah, my cat died.
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And you go, no, I don't think so.
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No, I think she's lost.
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And I'm like, I kind of rolled my eyes.
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I'm like, I know my cat.
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My cat has never left.
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He's come home every day.
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The cat must have died because he was an outdoor cat, but he never not came home.
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So I thought, okay, well, I know my cat.
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Two days later, my kids were going to school, which was only two blocks away, and they called me and they said, Mom, the cat is underneath the car two blocks away.
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And I was like, and because you told me to go walk around the neighborhood, call out its name.
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I don't know why, but he can't find his way home.
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And you were so right.
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Okay.
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You know, I don't even remember that.
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I mean, as you tell the story, I remember it, but I didn't, I wouldn't have been able to tell the story.
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Yeah, that's when I was like, okay, maybe really listen to Fran.
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And then there were two other times.
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And I'll just say the very last one.
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I said, we can't find Alice.
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He hasn't been home in a few days.
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And he would he would sometimes not come home, but usually in the morning they're hungry.
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And so it's been two days, and now I'm really getting worried.
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And you said, Well, I I and you may be able to say this better.
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You said, I think it's stuck somewhere, like in a shed or somewhere where he can't get out.
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And I was like, Okay, so go around the neighborhood, call out its name, maybe, and so we did this time.
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We to me and my husband did, and then finally he made a sign.
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He made two big signs and he placed it near where you kind of suggested to look.
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Within 30 minutes, we get a phone call, and the guy says, Yes, we have your cat.
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He's been in our house.
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My daughter really loves him.
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Okay, well, thank you for being honest and giving us our cat back.
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But uh yeah, that's uh so you know, your intuition is used for a lot of different things, even finding cats.
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You know, I have clients who have given me permission to tell something about their situation.
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And one of my clients I was warning this person that something terrible might take place, and they should always have their cell phone with them, they should have a jacket, they should be prepared to be at loose ends.
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Well, a tragedy indeed unfolded, an absolutely horrific, unthinkable tragedy.
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And they survived.
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Several other people did not, and they attribute it to the fact that they did not have to get their cell phone, that they had their cell phone with them, and they think that I warned them enough that they were able to manage.
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Another story that is not a client is one of my friends called me up, and when one of the things I do when I teach intuition is to have you have what I jokingly call your psychic friends network.
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So other people you can run by what you're getting to see what they're getting to get some validation or intuitive corroboration.
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And my friend, and my primary sense is visual.
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It's not my only, but it's my primary.
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So I often will talk about looking at something.
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So my friend called me up and said, I applied for this job.
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I really want it.
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What do you get when you look at it?
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I said, You're not gonna get the job except you're gonna get the job.
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And she said, That's exactly what I get.
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And so we waited to see what happened.
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Well, she interviewed, she did not get the job.
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They interviewed someone else who they gave the job to.
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Two weeks later, that person said, I'm not the person for this particular job.
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I think I should do this for your company.
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And so the next best candidate was my friend, and so she got the job.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Just to hang out with that.
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I'm gonna get the job, but not get the job, huh?
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And to hang out with that is, I think, something that people need to realize.
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I don't know, but I get this feeling.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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Absolutely.
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It's like listening to music you can hardly hear, or smelling something, but you're not sure what it is, like you were talking about.
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It's something that's on the edge of your consciousness sometimes.
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Sometimes it's clearer.
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So I worked as a waitress back when you called it a waitress a long time ago at a restaurant that was one of the first in this country to offer wines by the glass.
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And we're used to that now.
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But at one time, wine was only sold as a bottle.
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And this restaurant was also forward-thinking in a lot of things.
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They served something called the charcuterie plate, which we're all used to now.
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And so we would come into work on Monday and we would have the wine of the day and the cheese of the day, or rather, the wine of the week and the cheese of the week.
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And this was way before the internet.
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So we didn't all know how to pronounce the names of the cheeses.
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One of the owners may have spoken a little French, so you know, we were good on brie, but some of them we didn't know what it was.
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And there was one that I thought might be pronounced carefully, and I didn't know anything about it.
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It was just we were taught a little, you know, like what it tasted like, and whether what whether it was sheep or cow's milk, I don't remember much about it.
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And so one day a new client walks into, at the time I was seeing clients in my living room, and she walks into my house, sits down, and I'm flooded with the name of that cheese.
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And it's like, what in the world is going on?
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And so I say, why would I be thinking of a cheese called?
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I said, I don't really know how it's pronounced, but carefully.
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And she said, Oh, cafilly.
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She was from Wales, from the town where they make this cheese, and the name of the town is Cafilly, and that's how you pronounce the cheese.
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So there's so many associations that can happen.
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And what happens when someone comes in, and of course, I'm just sharing details that won't interfere with anyone's privacy, I hope.
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But the details that I experience when I first start working with you create a rapport that regular coaching and other forms of talk assistance, they don't create because people feel like I know them, I see them, I understand them more quickly.
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And indeed, I'm given information that is beyond what I can know about them.
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So it's a pretty magical experience.
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You asked at the beginning, what's it like to have an intuitive mindset coaching session?
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On a good day, I'm hopeful that it is amazing.
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That's great.
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Could you give our listeners, especially that kind of a woman or man who again wakes up and is gone, oh my gosh, this is the life I thought I wanted, and it's not what I want anymore.
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And what would be like their first small step that they could take?
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Well, I teach intuition with three props.
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And the first prompt is, what do I have energy for?
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And this is physical energy, the energy of motivation, of organic action responding to a situation.
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It's the same energy that an animal might use to refuse to walk forward or to refuse to stay still.
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It's time to go, it's time to go.
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It's the kind of energy that causes animals to leave an area and go to higher ground when there's going to be a flood, but nobody knows that there's going to be a flood.
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So I would ask, what do you have energy for that is not burn it all down?
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You have to be careful that you're not going to just burn it all down.
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I mean, sometimes that might be appropriate, not all of it.
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But what do I have energy for?
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So I use them, this is a fictitious example.
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But someone comes to me and says, I had a dream.
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I'm going to be the president of the United States.
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What do I do?
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And I might ask them, well, what have you been feeling like you needed to do?
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Well, I've been thinking about starting my own plumbing business, leaving my job and starting my own plumbing business.
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Okay, and what's the first step in starting your own plumbing business?
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I need to get business cards.
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So that's your first step toward becoming the president of the United States.
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And we can find those baby steps, those next steps that feel supported in our physical body, in our physical experience.
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So your next step for was it paddleboarding when you instead went downstairs and found Pachan?
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So your next step with paddleboarding was not walking out the front door.
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It was turning around and walking downstairs to the basement.
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That was your next step to that activity.
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So I hope that you just created a little space in your mind, and your listeners created a little space in their minds for how this can work.
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May I give one more example?
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Pardon me.
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I had an unhappy person come to me way before I started doing this professionally.
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And I had just started seeing people.
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And this person came to me and said that they had they worked, we're just going to say they worked in construction.
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They had done it for many years, they were good at it.
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But they were thinking about this other career.
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And the thing that they needed to do to start this other career was to buy a particular book.
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But the book cost$15.
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Now, this was probably before 1990.
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So$15 was worth more than it is now.
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Let's make it, I don't really know what the exchange would be, but let's make it$50.
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And they were very reluctant to waste$50.
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And I said, no, you're absolutely right.
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You need to buy that book.
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Well, they bought that book and they became the premier professional in that career in their region.
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And it had nothing to do or it had very little to do with the way that they were living at the time.
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So thank you for being on the show.
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You've got a a lot of things that you do.
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So I want to make sure that people want to get a hold of you, that it's going to be in the show notes.
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All the places and the things that you do.
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And again, that shine program and another one that I involved with on Monday and Monday evenings.
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And that's where people come to practice their intuition with other people.
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And that has been amazing.
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So if you want to get in touch with Fran, we have all that information in the show notes.
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But thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom, sharing your heart.
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And yeah, I hope that people reach out to you.
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Thank you so much.
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You bet.
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So until next time, be mindful of yourself, kindful with others, and gentle with the beautifully imperfect journey of being a human.
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Because story by story, heart by heart, this is how the world gets a little cut.
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Story by story, heart by heart, this is how the world gets a little kinder.
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Hi, I'm Connie Warden.
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Welcome to the Mindful Kindful Living Podcast, where we really talk about what it means to be genuine, be authentic, have some grace, even when life gets messy.
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I'm also the author of Speeding to Compassion, Life Lessons, and Jimmer to the High Road.
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And actually, this podcast is an extension of that.
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All right, so welcome, welcome.
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Today's guest is someone I've had the joy of knowing for almost 20 years.
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And in that time, she has found at least three of my cats with her intuitive gifts.
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And we might talk a little bit more about that later.
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She's helped me see myself more clearly with her intuitive gifts and has shown me what it's like to live and give generously from the heart.
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Brian Gallagher is an intuitive mindset coach who works with successful women, executives, empathic leaders, and purpose-driven professionals who wake up one day and all of a sudden realize they have outgrown the life that they had that they designed from their younger self.
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So using intuitive insight, psychic skills, and guided visualization, Fran helps women untangle from the old expectation, reclaim their spiritual alignment, and step into a life that finally matches who are they, who they are becoming.
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And she also teaches people how to do this themselves.
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She's got a great program that I've been through called Shine, the program and intuition.
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And this is going to help people to access their own inner wisdom and their own inner intuition.
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And hopefully we'll talk a little bit more about that.
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So welcome, my dear friend, Fran Gallagher.
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Thank you so much, my dear friend and colleague, Connie Warden.
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Thank you so much for having me here.
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You bet.
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I'm so excited because I know your talent.
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And anyway, so my first question is gonna be what if no one's really understood what it like it's like to be coached through an intuitive coach?
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What would that look like?
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Well, my joke about it is that coaching is about asking questions that trigger insights and realizations for a client.
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Intuitive coaching means that I ask questions, but I also answer some of them.
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Oh wow, that's pretty good.
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I love that.
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So I receive information while we are chatting, and none of the time we spend chatting in an intuitive mindset coaching session is wasted.
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It's all that I am watching for, listening for, feeling, knowing into what might come up.
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So a story that comes to my mind where the person themselves was not my client, but a man and woman came to me for the woman.
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And the man sat behind the woman because of the way that the room was arranged.
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And while I was working with the woman, a horse entered the room.
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So you and your listeners are going to have to understand that what we're talking about is the liminal world, the imaginative aspect of the spiritual.
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So an actual physical horse did not walk into the room, but a like a hologram of a horse walked into the room.
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So I paused with working with the woman and I turned to the man and said, Why did a horse just walk into the room?
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And he said, Oh, I just decided to sign up for equine coaching training.
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Wow.
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Wow, that is amazing.
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So there's all kinds of things going on when we're working together.
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And you know, sometimes I think I might make this up, but I think my clients kind of wish we were friends and they didn't have to pay me sometimes.
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But but what they don't understand is that we have to have a formal agreement and formal exchange of some kind, even if it doesn't involve a financial transfer, because I have to A, have permission, B, we have to have some structure for what we're doing.
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And C, I try to give that kind of attention to my friends, but to be honest, it's when I'm sitting in my professional self that I can bring the most focus to my clients.
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Okay.
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This wasn't on a list of questions, but do you want to talk at all about kind of your childhood and how you grew up as somebody who was very intuitive as a very young age?
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Oh, sure.
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Thank you, Connie.
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So the bad part was that I grew up in a family, in a household where there was abuse and neglect.
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My mother put me and my younger brother in a playroom most of the day.
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She brought us out to give us lunch, put us back in, brought us out for a nap, or maybe those two followed one another, put us back in.
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And I was raised to never ask questions.
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I wasn't allowed to ask questions.
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But if you've ever spent any time with a little kid, you know that all they do is ask questions.
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So I don't remember how that was conditioned in me to not ask questions.
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But I did not look for any outside assistance.
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So that's the bad part.
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But the good part is that I saw non-physical beings.
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And because I didn't have anyone to ask, I had no one telling me that they're not there.
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So for instance, I had a knight in armor who stood outside my bedroom door.
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And I was afraid of him.
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My mom taught me how to make my bed.
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And she kept thinking that I didn't know how to make my bed.
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But the problem was that I had to run past this night to get in my room and make the bed and then run back out past the night.
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And now I believe that night was assigned to me for protection.
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I think I have been a fearless person in this world, and we can also translate that to reckless and for part of my life.
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And I think I was usually assigned a protector.
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So I grew up with this track of what was going on that was non-physical, and then another track that was more logical and rational.
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And I think my dad helped me remember these things because he used to ask me about the things I saw.
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And he just thought I had an active imagination.
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So those conversations at the dinner table with all of us, I'm one of seven.
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And of course, there weren't always seven because I'm a middle child.
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So some of them had to come along after a while.
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But those memories are what preserved this intuitive access for me.
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And I tried to deny it and ignore it.
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But when I got my first job at a burger place, and I had bought a book on palm reading from the Scholastic Book Club.
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I don't know if you remember that.
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Oh, yes.
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And it was fourth grade, and I was trying to memorize everything from the book, and I failed.
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So then when I was a teenager, I would drink too much.
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And as a party trick, as a joke, I would read people's palms and make things up, and it would be hilarious.
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So I came in, I opened the burger place in the morning, and my manager came in a little later and he said, What did you do last night?
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And I said, I drank too much and I read palms.
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And he said, Well, read my palms.
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And I said, No, you don't understand.
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It's a joke.
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I don't really read poems.
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He said, No, read my palms.
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And he stuck his hands in front of me.
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Well, I looked at his hands and I turned away.
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I said, I don't really read poems.
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And he said, No, you saw something.
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What did you see?
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And I said, I saw cameras on a workbench.
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Who would keep cameras on a workbench?
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And he went dead white and said, My hobby is making cameras.
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I have cameras all over my workbench at home.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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So it shocked me just as much as it shocked him.
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And I have spent my life coming to terms with the way this brain works, the way I work, um, still working on it.
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Yeah, we work on ourselves until we stop breathing.
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Tell me maybe if a story comes to mind about the exact kind of a person that you work with as far as some a woman who's like, wow, this is the life I designed, but not it's not working for me anymore.
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Do you have any like just off the off your top of your head, a couple of stories?
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Well, I think it almost describes everyone I work with to some extent.
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And sometimes it's a man.
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Sometimes men have had in in some cases more opportunities to build wealth, make choices based on uh, to be honest, a higher level of income, and they set up a life, maybe that with a partner, and their needs are simply not being met.
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And it's very hard for them to face this because everything is perfect as they had imagined it, but it isn't perfect as far as them getting their needs met.
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Yeah, I think we all probably have faced that.
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Like, you know, what we want in our 20s, maybe even 20s and 30s, changes.
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And in fact, I had uh since COVID, since I kind of closed my office down and my acupuncture office, and what do I want to really do?
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And so I tried a couple different things.
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One was do nothing.
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Well, first of all, I felt at peace finally in my soul, and I thought I could just feel peace, but I knew my calling wasn't just to do nothing and just enjoy reading books and walking or whatever.
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Yeah, I all right.
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Okay.
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So in your bio, you said that you believe that moving towards healing and wholeness, you have to include our spirituality, and that the language of the spiritual is intuition.
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Can you say more about that?
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So when I was in fifth grade, I was with in Mrs.
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LaBera's class, math class.
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You remember the teacher's name.
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Yes.
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And we were passing cooties and we were giggling, and she realized something was going on, and she called on someone, and this was in a Catholic elementary school, and you had to stand up, you couldn't just answer from your desk.
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You had to stand up and stand beside the desk and say, Yes, Mrs.
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Libera, or yes, sister Mary Benjamin's or whatever.
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And that was my dad's joking name for a nun.
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And so someone stood up next to their desk and said, Yes, Mrs.
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Libera, we're passing cooties.
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And Mrs.
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Libera said, Well, bring them all up here and put them on my desk.
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Well, the class exploded in laughter because cooties are not a real thing.
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And what I have found is that spirituality is ephemeral, it is eventescent.
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And if you don't have your intuition open, you can't perceive it.
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So learning intuition is a way of using your inner senses to look at the screen of your mind.
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Now, some people don't have a screen of their mind.
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It's very rare, but it can happen.
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Or listen for what you hear inside your own head.
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Or notice what you are feeling, notice what you are knowing in the moment, not necessarily thinking, it's a knowing.
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I have all the inner senses.
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So all the senses that we use to experience our external world, I have internally.
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And by the way, the band The Doors was named after a book by Aldus Huxley called The Doors of Perception.
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And what Aldus Huxley was talking about is opening these inner senses that he called the doors of perception.
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So those of your listeners who are into the esoteric world, you know these as clairvoyance, clairoriance, and so on, clairsentience.
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These are some people call them the clairs, but they are the internal senses that are clear for some of us.
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And one of the things I do when I teach intuition or when I work with a client in my intuitive mindset practice, I have them notice what they are experiencing.
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And they may not at first realize what we're doing, but we're starting to notice what senses they have that are open.
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Yes, and this is really important.
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And of course, you know, I did take your shine a class and maybe even a couple times.
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And even though I've been working with my intuition for a long time, I still learned a lot.
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And I have that knowing.
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But I I've also had other senses like smelling smoke.
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I remember that I'm like, God, I smell smoke.
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And you know what smells like this bar I used to go to at the University of Wisconsin.
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And I'm like, what?
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Why am I smelling it?
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And I look up at the car in front of me, and they're smoking, I think they're smoking pot.
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And there, you can, I could just see what was going on.
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They were laughing.
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I'm like, I gotta go beyond.
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I changed lanes and looked at that car, and I'm like, man, you should be staying clear of that.
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And so I thought that was interesting.
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That doesn't happen often to me, but every now and then I'll actually smell something that is a maybe a warning or actually connecting to like one time.
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I was, I don't know why I was thinking about my aunt.
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One of my aunts.
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She used to smoke a lot, and of course, I could smell the smoke.
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So that that's really interesting.
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And you're talking about being able to smell the smoke when in the first instance you're in a closed car, in the second instance, you're nowhere near your aunt.
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Correct.
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Well, she had not and just to be clear to our audience, that's what we're talking about.
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We're talking about experiences that cannot be attributed to a rational source.
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Now, the problem with saying that it's it's not rational is that we use that word and we say someone is irrational.
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So it's not irrational either.
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I use the example of you're not going to know why you decided to walk on the other side of the street while you were walking down the street until wily coyote drops in the anvil on the spot where you just were.
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So we're using the term rational in that there is no preceding logical reason for what you're doing.
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There is no logical, rational source for your experience of smelling smoke.
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Okay, I've got a story, and I want you to tell a story about the lady about to go on vacation and decides to take a bath.
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Because I had me and my daughter were going to go paddleboarding.
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We had our swimsuits on, our cover-ups, and I said, I'm gonna go downstairs and check something on my computer.
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And as I'm walking down the steps, I'm going, why am I doing this?
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I suppose it's I don't know, right?
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But I keep going down the steps and I go towards my computer and my cat starts screaming.
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The cat is in trouble.
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And so, in fact, he lost the back use of his back legs and he started peeing.
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So this was if I hadn't been there and hadn't gone down there, this cat would have died very in a very painful way.
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Yeah.
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So we got pot cham, that was pot cham, and we picked him up and took him to.
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He did not live, but at least he died peacefully.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And I still remember walking down the steps going, why am I what am I checking on my computer anyway?
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And I just did it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to attribute something, and you notice if this resonates, and if it doesn't, I understand.
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But I think that was like body level intuition.
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Your body started walking downstairs without the knowing going on.
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And I jokingly say that sometimes intuition lives in our feet and tells us to walk out of that party before everything goes to hell.
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That's pretty good.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So tell what I'd love the listeners to hear the story of the couple getting ready to leave across to a different country.
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Not a different country.
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They were going to go away on vacation.
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They were gonna go, I don't know where how far away they were going, but I think it was significant.
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And they were ready to leave, and all of a sudden, my friend had to go and start running a bath.
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And it made no sense.
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And her husband was impatient, and she turns on the hot water, and the hot water heater burst.
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And it was so much better that they knew it then and they could get it taken care of than if they had been gone for a significant portion of time and it had happened and flooded the house while they were gone.
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Yeah, that's like it was it's awesome that somebody actually followed through on something which it could feel irrational, you know.
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Like, why would I take a bath?
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We are getting ready to leave.
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And she did it.
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I must admit, I do those irrational things a great deal.
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And I'm lately I've been concerned about something, and I don't want to be negative, but I'm I'm concerned about some negative consequences.
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It's kind of like, don't forget, you might have this happen.
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And so yesterday I thought about going to a town that's about I think it's about an hour away.
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And I just had the feeling that's not for now, it's not for now, and leave that for another day.
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And I don't want to be negative and rain on my own parade, but I heeded that caution.
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So it's a little bit tricky right now, or one of the things when that if I'm in a relationship, I have to have the person understand that I may need to say or do something that is not with the program all of a sudden.
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Yep.
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And if someone We can't deal with it.
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Well, now you know, you know, sooner than later.
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I just wanted to share the story about my cats that you have found.
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So the first time I remember I had a broken wrist, and you came to meet me at Panera's and you looked at me and I was really like a I mean, I first of all, I was in a victimization role, right?
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At because I oh my poor wrist, you know, and as I never had a broken bone.
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That was my first time.
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And then I also my cat died.
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I'm you know, and I remember saying, Yeah, my cat died.
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And you go, no, I don't think so.
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No, I think she's lost.
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And I'm like, I kind of rolled my eyes.
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I'm like, I know my cat.
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My cat has never left.
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He's come home every day.
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The cat must have died because he was an outdoor cat, but he never not came home.
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So I thought, okay, well, I know my cat.
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Two days later, my kids were going to school, which was only two blocks away, and they called me and they said, Mom, the cat is underneath the car two blocks away.
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And I was like, and because you told me to go walk around the neighborhood, call out its name.
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I don't know why, but he can't find his way home.
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And you were so right.
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Okay.
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You know, I don't even remember that.
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I mean, as you tell the story, I remember it, but I didn't, I wouldn't have been able to tell the story.
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Yeah, that's when I was like, okay, maybe really listen to Fran.
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And then there were two other times.
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And I'll just say the very last one.
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I said, we can't find Alice.
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He hasn't been home in a few days.
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And he would he would sometimes not come home, but usually in the morning they're hungry.
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And so it's been two days, and now I'm really getting worried.
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And you said, Well, I I and you may be able to say this better.
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You said, I think it's stuck somewhere, like in a shed or somewhere where he can't get out.
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And I was like, Okay, so go around the neighborhood, call out its name, maybe, and so we did this time.
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We to me and my husband did, and then finally he made a sign.
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He made two big signs and he placed it near where you kind of suggested to look.
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Within 30 minutes, we get a phone call, and the guy says, Yes, we have your cat.
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He's been in our house.
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My daughter really loves him.
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Okay, well, thank you for being honest and giving us our cat back.
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But uh yeah, that's uh so you know, your intuition is used for a lot of different things, even finding cats.
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You know, I have clients who have given me permission to tell something about their situation.
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And one of my clients I was warning this person that something terrible might take place, and they should always have their cell phone with them, they should have a jacket, they should be prepared to be at loose ends.
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Well, a tragedy indeed unfolded, an absolutely horrific, unthinkable tragedy.
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And they survived.
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Several other people did not, and they attribute it to the fact that they did not have to get their cell phone, that they had their cell phone with them, and they think that I warned them enough that they were able to manage.
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Another story that is not a client is one of my friends called me up, and when one of the things I do when I teach intuition is to have you have what I jokingly call your psychic friends network.
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So other people you can run by what you're getting to see what they're getting to get some validation or intuitive corroboration.
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And my friend, and my primary sense is visual.
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It's not my only, but it's my primary.
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So I often will talk about looking at something.
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So my friend called me up and said, I applied for this job.
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I really want it.
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What do you get when you look at it?
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I said, You're not gonna get the job except you're gonna get the job.
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And she said, That's exactly what I get.
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And so we waited to see what happened.
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Well, she interviewed, she did not get the job.
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They interviewed someone else who they gave the job to.
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Two weeks later, that person said, I'm not the person for this particular job.
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I think I should do this for your company.
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And so the next best candidate was my friend, and so she got the job.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Just to hang out with that.
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I'm gonna get the job, but not get the job, huh?
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And to hang out with that is, I think, something that people need to realize.
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I don't know, but I get this feeling.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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Absolutely.
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It's like listening to music you can hardly hear, or smelling something, but you're not sure what it is, like you were talking about.
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It's something that's on the edge of your consciousness sometimes.
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Sometimes it's clearer.
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So I worked as a waitress back when you called it a waitress a long time ago at a restaurant that was one of the first in this country to offer wines by the glass.
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And we're used to that now.
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But at one time, wine was only sold as a bottle.
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And this restaurant was also forward-thinking in a lot of things.
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They served something called the charcuterie plate, which we're all used to now.
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And so we would come into work on Monday and we would have the wine of the day and the cheese of the day, or rather, the wine of the week and the cheese of the week.
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And this was way before the internet.
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So we didn't all know how to pronounce the names of the cheeses.
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One of the owners may have spoken a little French, so you know, we were good on brie, but some of them we didn't know what it was.
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And there was one that I thought might be pronounced carefully, and I didn't know anything about it.
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It was just we were taught a little, you know, like what it tasted like, and whether what whether it was sheep or cow's milk, I don't remember much about it.
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And so one day a new client walks into, at the time I was seeing clients in my living room, and she walks into my house, sits down, and I'm flooded with the name of that cheese.
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And it's like, what in the world is going on?
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And so I say, why would I be thinking of a cheese called?
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I said, I don't really know how it's pronounced, but carefully.
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And she said, Oh, cafilly.
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She was from Wales, from the town where they make this cheese, and the name of the town is Cafilly, and that's how you pronounce the cheese.
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So there's so many associations that can happen.
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And what happens when someone comes in, and of course, I'm just sharing details that won't interfere with anyone's privacy, I hope.
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But the details that I experience when I first start working with you create a rapport that regular coaching and other forms of talk assistance, they don't create because people feel like I know them, I see them, I understand them more quickly.
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And indeed, I'm given information that is beyond what I can know about them.
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So it's a pretty magical experience.
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You asked at the beginning, what's it like to have an intuitive mindset coaching session?
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On a good day, I'm hopeful that it is amazing.
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That's great.
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Could you give our listeners, especially that kind of a woman or man who again wakes up and is gone, oh my gosh, this is the life I thought I wanted, and it's not what I want anymore.
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And what would be like their first small step that they could take?
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Well, I teach intuition with three props.
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And the first prompt is, what do I have energy for?
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And this is physical energy, the energy of motivation, of organic action responding to a situation.
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It's the same energy that an animal might use to refuse to walk forward or to refuse to stay still.
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It's time to go, it's time to go.
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It's the kind of energy that causes animals to leave an area and go to higher ground when there's going to be a flood, but nobody knows that there's going to be a flood.
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So I would ask, what do you have energy for that is not burn it all down?
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You have to be careful that you're not going to just burn it all down.
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I mean, sometimes that might be appropriate, not all of it.
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But what do I have energy for?
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So I use them, this is a fictitious example.
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But someone comes to me and says, I had a dream.
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I'm going to be the president of the United States.
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What do I do?
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And I might ask them, well, what have you been feeling like you needed to do?
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Well, I've been thinking about starting my own plumbing business, leaving my job and starting my own plumbing business.
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Okay, and what's the first step in starting your own plumbing business?
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I need to get business cards.
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So that's your first step toward becoming the president of the United States.
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And we can find those baby steps, those next steps that feel supported in our physical body, in our physical experience.
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So your next step for was it paddleboarding when you instead went downstairs and found Pachan?
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So your next step with paddleboarding was not walking out the front door.
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It was turning around and walking downstairs to the basement.
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That was your next step to that activity.
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So I hope that you just created a little space in your mind, and your listeners created a little space in their minds for how this can work.
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May I give one more example?
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Pardon me.
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I had an unhappy person come to me way before I started doing this professionally.
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And I had just started seeing people.
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And this person came to me and said that they had they worked, we're just going to say they worked in construction.
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They had done it for many years, they were good at it.
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But they were thinking about this other career.
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And the thing that they needed to do to start this other career was to buy a particular book.
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But the book cost$15.
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Now, this was probably before 1990.
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So$15 was worth more than it is now.
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Let's make it, I don't really know what the exchange would be, but let's make it$50.
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And they were very reluctant to waste$50.
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And I said, no, you're absolutely right.
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You need to buy that book.
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Well, they bought that book and they became the premier professional in that career in their region.
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And it had nothing to do or it had very little to do with the way that they were living at the time.
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So thank you for being on the show.
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You've got a a lot of things that you do.
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So I want to make sure that people want to get a hold of you, that it's going to be in the show notes.
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All the places and the things that you do.
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And again, that shine program and another one that I involved with on Monday and Monday evenings.
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And that's where people come to practice their intuition with other people.
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And that has been amazing.
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So if you want to get in touch with Fran, we have all that information in the show notes.
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But thank you so much for coming on and sharing your wisdom, sharing your heart.
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And yeah, I hope that people reach out to you.
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Thank you so much.
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You bet.
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So until next time, be mindful of yourself, kindful with others, and gentle with the beautifully imperfect journey of being a human.
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Because story by story, heart by heart, this is how the world gets a little cut.
