Breaking Down the Bay: Bigg Tae and DK of Limousine 10 on Authenticity, Artistry, and Industry Changes

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Everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Might Delete Later Podcast.
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You guys know who I am.
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I'm your host.
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I'm Derek.
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I got some special guests in the building today that came from a long way, came from the yay area.
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Big Tay.
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Yes, sir.
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In the house.
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Put that a little closer T.
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There you go.
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah, I got Big Tay and introduce your guest.
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Got my boy DK.
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Up and coming RB.
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Well, like I said, we don't want to put him in that box.
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Just the RB box.
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I mean, it's versatile, but RB, hell of a writer.
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And like I said, I think he he's on his way.
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He's one of the next coming out.
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All right, man.
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Yeah.
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How you doing?
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I'm doing pretty good.
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You know, I'm DK.
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I'm going to tell you, that stands for Diara Kashif.
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I'm sure you know what Kashif is.
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Yes.
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Okay, I ain't got to say that.
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Diara, though.
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Diara is African's consider.
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I mean African's, you know, descent.
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It means a gift.
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So I really take that seriously.
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I've been a gift since I got here on this earth, man.
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You know, the journey being rough.
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That's some deep shit right there.
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Man.
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So I just implement that in my music, you know, and look at it as me being a gift to the world, you know?
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Okay.
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Everything I do.
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Before we started, I know uh we were talking about some RB, and you say you don't even want to be able to do it.
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I don't even want to classify exactly.
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Let's not even say R B.
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I feel like the work that I put into my voice, you know, I've graduated from with my bachelor's in vocal performance.
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So I really crafted my voice.
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I have a lot of experience doing, I've been singing since I was 15, doing um covers and stuff, getting paid for that.
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So I really put work into my voice to not have to categorize it.
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Okay.
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I can do very a lot of things with my voice, and I am very open-minded.
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So I ain't gotta just be RB or gospel or so.
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Like I can do pop stuff, you know?
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I can switch it up.
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It's okay.
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I could do some opera stuff, you know what I mean?
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Okay, let me ask you this.
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I'm gotta get to big tape, but let me ask you this.
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Yeah.
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Who's some of your uh the people that you watched growing up and that you kind of emulate?
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Oh man, I wouldn't say too much of emulation, but as far as me growing up, I say my two favorites, and I've met them too.
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So my male is Tevin Campbell.
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Okay.
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You know Goofy movie.
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Okay.
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You remember Goofy Covenant?
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You don't hear that, but I'm telling you.
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But that man right there, that range in his voice, because when I watched the Goofy movie as a child, and I don't, it just ain't a knock to him, it's actually a good thing.
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I couldn't tell if it was a female or a male singing.
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Yeah.
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His voice was so amazing to me, and I just put watched that movie on repeat.
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That was the guy.
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Second person, Brandy.
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Okay for my female.
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She made Cinderella.
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Uh-huh.
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Exactly.
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I was on it.
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I'm sorry.
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I was like, that should have been me playing her counterpart.
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I think that's the first time I've ever heard somebody say Tevin Campbell and Brandy.
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Yes.
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But for him.
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And the people they were watching.
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I met Tevin Campbell.
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We both did a Christmas show when I was like 15, 16.
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We both ended up on that same show.
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So I ended up meeting him backstage.
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He let me know.
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He goes, You need to get serious about your voice.
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I see you're a little hesitant a little bit, but just, you know, let him know.
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Open up.
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Don't hold back.
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Use your voice.
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Took it from serious from there.
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Her, I didn't get too much of an advice from her, but I met her through gospel.
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We both, our families are very, you know, gospel-oriented.
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So she had uh her and her family had an event called Singerama, and they had put that on in LA.
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So you know, me and my people, we fly out.
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Doom boom pow ironed up on that.
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We took a couple pictures together.
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We got a 10-year span of a picture, both pictures showing.
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She, I remember you, da-da-da.
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So yeah.
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Wow.
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So big tape.
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Big T.
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I know you've been, I know you've been grinding away at music for a while, and people are just now seeing, you know, the fruits of your labor.
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Yes, yeah.
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They're just now seeing it, but I know you've been grinding away for a while.
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How did you come up with the name Limousine 10?
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Where did that name come from?
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It was actually, I have to say it was accident.
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Well, not an accident, but we it was no real like rhyme or reason to why that actually was the one that we ended up choosing.
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So we were all in the studio.
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It was like, you know, the group at the time.
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And so we started coming up with all these different names.
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And everybody started saying different this, different that.
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And then somebody said, somebody just happened to say limousine 10, and I was like, Oh, I kind of like that.
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I was like, see, that that sounds like a group prince would have came with back in the day.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I just said, like, that's good.
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I was like, but now I gotta come up with the meaning.
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So everybody thinks the 10 in Limousine 10.
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It's 10 of y'all.
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It's 10 of them.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's not.
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Yeah.
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10 is actually kind of like how I broke it down.
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415, the group with Richie Rich, D-Loak, DJ Daryl shout out.
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Those was like, that was like, when they album dropped, that was like impactful for me as a kid.
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You know, back then, like just Barry, like Richie Rich's voice and D-Look and DJ Daryl's beat.
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So how I broke it down was is basically 4 plus 1 plus 5 equals 10.
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So 515.
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Okay, because nobody would ever think that.
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Right.
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Right.
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Everybody automatically.
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Only seven of y'all up here.
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Wait a minute.
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Right.
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They lying.
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Everybody automatically in the two.
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They must have got 10.
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So yeah.
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Somebody ain't here.
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Right.
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So yeah, that's basically the breakdown of it.
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And, you know, it was just, I thought it just was fitting.
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You know, like I wanted something that people could remember.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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And limousine 10, people like, okay, like that rings.
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So, you know what I'm saying?
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We said we're rolling with it.
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Okay.
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Now, I wanted to ask you about how you got started.
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I remember I went, you know, like I said, I do my deep dive on everybody before they come in here, and I kind of saw what was it?
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KMEL jam.
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You doing some work there.
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Yeah, right out of high school, I started doing work.
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I actually, you know, what happened was is like I used to go down there, my boy uh Franzen, who was on KMEO for years.
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He went, we went to the same high school, and basically we had a little click, and and he was like, you know, like the younger dude trying to like be, you know, we was like older.
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I think he was, we had a couple years on him.
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So he would bring us down to the station, like, you know, sneak us in every now and again.
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And so we go down there and kick it.
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And so, you know, I'm like, I'm like goddamn there, I'm like, man, I'm trying to get on.
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So I went to one of the jocks, Kevin Nash, shout out.
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He gave me my first little, you know what I'm saying, little entry into the game.
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I got at him, and he was like, you know, I got like one night a week where you come in and answer phones for the reggae show.
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And I was like, yeah, I'll take it.
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You take it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I ended up doing that.
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And at the time I was working at this club, City Knights, back in the day, which was hot.
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And Theo used to come in and out of there.
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He's one of the jocks from back in the day that was really popular.
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And he would come in and we would see each other, and you know, I'd like catch him during sometimes, like I'd be in the car and I hear him, and you know, I'd give him a shit, you know, it's like, man, you doing, like, you really doing it, man.
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Because he would like, hey, he had his own mixes on Friday, so he would like play a bunch of stuff that like they weren't playing in rotation.
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And so, you know, I was like, would come to like, man, I like that mix.
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And so he just was like, you know, I just one time he just was like, man, I one of my interns just left, so I need somebody to help me produce the show.
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And so I was like, he's like, You down?
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I was like, Yeah.
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So, you know, like just it was just cool because basically that entry into getting in there basically propelled me into that situation, you know, and from there it's just like, man, I just ran with it.
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He we worked with each other for some years, then he ended up moving on to LA, and then I got with another mentor, Billy Vidal, which is he's still doing radio, killing it.
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But I got on with him, and he basically taught me how to run the boards and like you know, basically gave me, you know, more experience.
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And then Theo got set up down in LA, and then I start working for the beat in LA.
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So, you know, it just I just been lucky in the sense of that, you know, like right out of high school, I was able to get into the game like that and just get into the entertainment and you know, of course, uh doing other things, but like, you know, that entry really helped me.
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When you came out of high school and started working there, were you was your thought, hey, I want to soak all this up, I want to learn as much as I can, and then I want to go ahead and do my own label type of thing.
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Was that on your mind at that time?
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No.
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I mean, I it see, I wish I would have had the nerve back in the day to just get out there and put my music on the scale, but it just like as in as for me coming into it, what I had to do is like be okay with being judged.
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I feel like people don't say that.
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And I had to get over that fear of like putting out something and and being okay if people was like it's whack.
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So like it took me years to like get to that point where like, man, let's say I don't care, man.
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I'm gonna I want to do this, I'ma just do it.
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But at the time, I just was trying to soak up like everything.
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Like, you know, everything was just so you know, crazy.
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Like, you know, getting to LA and just, you know, being in the mix.
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Like, we had guests coming on, like, Theo's show was the hottest show in LA at the time.
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So our matter of fact, it's like our competition was big boy.
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He was at Power 106 at the time.
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So, like in that time slot, that was the competition.
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But it just was like getting there was so like eye-opening.
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Like you just, you know, we had like Q come in, like just like sitting DJ Quick and you know, Mac 10, and you know, then when Summer Jam would come around, then you got all these artists, like, you know, coming in and out.
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And then at the time, you know, I started Bernie Mac, said the Entertainer, and Steve Harvey, they was all getting started.
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Like they were, you know what I'm saying, like at the beginning of the day.
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So, you know, it just getting to see a lot of stuff.
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Like the first day I show up to work there, Jode C and Madonna's there.
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Visited.
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So I'm just like this is crazy.
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And then like, you know, the Summer Jam, just I just remember Easy E had a show at the time down there.
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And I just remember just being there because, like, you know, I'm an NWA fan.
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Like, you know, that's Easy E.
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Like, that was like definitely impactful for me.
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So like just being able to be in, like, you know, talking or just being in arm's reach of like just all of these different people.
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It just, it was, it was real crazy, man.
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Like, and you know, I just was able to have like people who wanted to see me do good.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Gave me opportunities.
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Yeah, I I know like for me, there was a couple of events that I did where, you know, uh Tyrese is there and a couple of film events, yeah, you know, uh Tia Maori, all these people, and you're there and you're just like, oh my God.
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Right.
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Yeah, you inside you like that.
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You don't want to fan out, but you just like the good thing though, the good thing about being in that situation early is it teaches you that these are regular people.
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Definitely.
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That these are regular people, and okay, I know not to run up to them, oh my god, oh my god.
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Right.
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No, not to because they don't want you doing that.
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Exactly.
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Because they want you, you gotta act when people say act like you've been there, exactly.
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You have to act like you've been there around the people.
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So that's the good thing about that.
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That okay, I could talk to anybody now.
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I've been around all of these people.
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It don't matter who it is, I can go ahead and talk to them.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So that's the good thing.
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So when you got started, you got started.
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I heard you say your family was a church family.
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Oh yeah.
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Tell me about that.
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So you grew up in church.
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Yeah, I got a lineage, you know, the greats, the great greats.
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You know?
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No, but it was uh an in-and-out thing.
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You know, they were trying to find their roots in their religion.
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So we got rooted in a religion of Christianity called Church of Christ.
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Okay, yeah.
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Our church of Christ, we don't use instruments.
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So, you know, when you ain't got instruments, you really got to know what you're doing with your voice.
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So that's how, you know, I got the harmonies down and really how to use my voice and because that's all we had to listen to.
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So with music, I wasn't really, we call it secular.
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So I didn't really get to, you know, get into it, get into it the way I wanted to.
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So I was more with the him the original hymns and stuff like that.
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So I really had to sit with the classics.
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So speaking of that, I saw Jermaine Dupree say something that I thought about it, and I'm like, hmm.
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Because I grew up in church myself.
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Grew up in church myself.
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But I saw Jermaine Dupree say something.
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Someone asked him about RB today.
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They asked him about RB today, and he was like, Yeah, you know, it just don't have that that that soul.
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He said, The problem is when we were coming up, a lot of the RB singers grew up in church.
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And you hear that.
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Talk about it.
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You hear that when you hear them singing.
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You hear that church come out and some of them runs.
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Come on.
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So he said, Today you don't hear that from some of the newer artists.
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And I was like, Huh.
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Absolutely not.
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I was like, Yeah, I think that's that might be true.
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It's truth to that, and then when it's not even just about the type of runs we're doing and all that stuff, there is really feeling when you're speaking with your voice.
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There's a feeling you have behind that.
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When you're raising the church, they teach you to tap into your soul, tap into those feelings.
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Really let that it's a vulnerability.
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And when you're not in that, you don't know what all those things are.
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You know, in our culture, in today's time, we taught, don't get too vulnerable.
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Shield up, protect yourself, all that type of stuff.
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So how are you gonna be vulnerable with people if we always talk about protect and independent and da da da da?
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Yeah.
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Is is contradicting.
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So ain't nobody opening up like that in today's time.
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They holding on and waiting for the check.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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And then another thing I heard, I forgot who said this, but they were talking about younger artists as well today.
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They don't, they aren't getting developed like they used to get developed.
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Come on.
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Talk about it.
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You know, so now you could just get some equipment and I go make an album in my in my living room.
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I love.
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I've never had any music experience.
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I've never done anything, but I'm gonna make this hot, I'll make this hot track talking about throw that motherfucker.
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You know?
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And then the computer go do the rest.
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But on the flip side of that, I also think that hip-hop and RB, I feel like sold out a long time ago.
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And I feel like we are now seeing the repercussions of where we are musically.
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I mean, like everyone.
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Don't go deeper into that.
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What do you mean they sold out?
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Well, I just feel like it became, we we like gave up the art for money.
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You know, and I just feel like we're we're seeing, like, I don't want to like like dog the whole like RB, the new crap of RB people, but it's just it's a little bit different.
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And, you know, I I don't like Leon Thomas, I love him.
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Like I think he like he's one of those dudes, if he keeps it cracking, I feel like though that that's like a start to like getting back.
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But it's some other artists out there that just are not getting the exposure.
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But back to the subject.
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But I just want to say that we like, especially with hip hop, like that's the reason why we in a position with all of the shitty music that we have to listen to now.
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It's because we're back in the day you really had to have a voice and be able to like have some real talent.
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Like now that everybody, it's like the gift and the curse.
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It's like it's good that artists can take their you know, music into their own hands and upload it.
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But, you know, just because you do it don't mean it's good.
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You mean it should be done.
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Like, yeah, I'm like, I'm just like it should be done.
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It's just everybody can do it, but just cause you do it don't mean you're doing it right.
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Like, that's just you know how I it's it's it's just like I said, just a position of like I really think that we letting corporate people come in and kind of take over hip hop, and that's why they put out the buffoonery and push the buffoonery that they push nowadays because they pretty much in control of it.
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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We've lost control of that.
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And I'm saying it is some independent, but it's like you ask any independent artists now that had a contract before, it's a big difference of like when you have to do everything yourself versus when you got a machine behind you.
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Like, so it's it's really hard.
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I'm not saying it's easy, but I'm just saying that I I really think the position of all of the music, it's like the the music is crap.
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And then, like, you know, I I these younger people try to get all in their feelings when you tell them it's not good.
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You know, like they think you got old nigga ears.
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And I'm like, no, I just know whack shit when I hear it.
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It's just like there ain't no disrespect.
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Like, and like I said, I'm one person.
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It shouldn't matter if I like your shit or not.
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If you got an audience, those is who you should be catering to.
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It's just not for me.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Which is a lot of the music nowadays, it's just nobody takes the time anymore.
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I'm you I I guess I'm spoiled in that way with hip hop.
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Yeah, though the only the only slight pushback I would have for you is like you said, the corporations and stuff are taking control of it.
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I don't think the corporations care.
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They say, hey, they don't.
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What are we making money with?
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Right.
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Well, I understand.
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We we we we like I I there was a new artist that I was speaking to, and we're talking about my daughter, because my daughter sings and she's she's ready to go, right?
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She's a single thing.
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I'm gonna have to let you hear something about it.
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But the new artist that that I was talking to about, he's oh no, no, no, don't do no album.
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Don't do an album.
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Just put out a single for her, just do a single, maybe like three songs, and that's it.
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That's it.
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Because you can make the money off of that.
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You that can go viral.
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I'm like, that's not what I'm you I'm used to.
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People making an album.
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Well, no, I I totally get you.
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Everybody tells me the same thing, like you should just be worried about singles, and I'm like, uh, that's cool, but why not be able to do that?
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We want to create a whole experience because that's what we grew up with.
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Right, exactly.
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We grew up with people making uh an entire experience of an out.
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Even if you know it's it's me and my daughter that's a singer, we got we saw the Michael Jackson movie, right?
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We start, I talked about this on the podcast.
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We started leaving, and then she was like, Dad, what's Michael Jackson's best album?
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I was like, hmm.
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I was like, it's gotta be either off the wall or thriller.
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And she was like, No, it's not.
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She said, It's bad.
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Okay.
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I was like, really?
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I was like, bad?
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And so we start going, we start going track for track, right?
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We got track for track.
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I immediately threw off the wall out because we had some skips.
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We had a couple skips.
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Okay, okay, okay, we'll throw that out.
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Then we got the thriller.
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I didn't have any skips in thriller.
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I was like skips, but the thing with thriller is it was, I believe, only nine songs.
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Right.
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Bad was like 11 songs, with and there was no skips, but seeing I I went with thriller, I had to say, okay, well, I'm skipping Man in the Mirror on uh I'm skipping, I don't want to listen to Man in the Mirror, I'm skipping that on bad.
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And she was like, You're nuts.
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Everyone listens to Man in the Mirror.
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Come on now.
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So it it so again, the the album experience is what caused that conversation for us.
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Right.
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They have that album experience.
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And today, when artists get started, they don't do that.
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Well, you can still do that.
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Because like my whole concept is why not put out a project and then work the singles?
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Like you can still project already.
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But but I'm saying you can still work any single you want off of there.
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I mean, to me, it's just I feel like everybody is so caught up on everybody should do it the way they feel like it's the best.
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Yeah, you know, if you really think working one single is the best thing to do, then that's cool.
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Like, but like I said, I come from the album experience, and I like to put together a whole project.
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So, you know, like I said, I I'm not trying to hate it, it's just it's it's also easier to hide when you do one single or just uh three songs.
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It's easier to hide.
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But but people gotta understand having a hit is a gift and a curse.
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Yeah.
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Because it's the gift, then okay, you got a hit.
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But if you have nothing to back that up, that hit up, then it's almost null and voids the hit to me.
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Then you just gonna be the one hit one.
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The one hit one.
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So that's why I just said it's important.
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You know, if somebody's on one, and you should already be thinking as an artist, okay, what am I gonna follow that up with?
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Now that I got their attention.
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Because now, like I said, you hit them with that one single that you're trying to push.
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Okay, like everybody is what else you got?
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I think it depends on what you want.
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Because you got some people that's be very content with that and will be so happy that they got that one hidden.
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We'll talk that's good.
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You know, I'm known in the hood or wherever I come from, you know.
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That's good for me.
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But you got people that's me, like me, that want that more because how my love for music and my love for the work that I put in and my voice and everything.
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And that's an artist.
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An artist does isn't content with one thing.
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Exactly.
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Steven Spielberg did jaws, and if he's oh, I'm done.
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Right.
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No, an artist, you constantly have that drive to want to keep keep making things.
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Come on.
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You constantly want to keep making things.
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So someone that just makes that one hit and they just like, oh, you you was playing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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You was playing.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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You should just have that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You was playing, because that's all you was looking for.
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And come on now.
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Some of the artists, you you can actually feel that and you can actually hear that.
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Yes.
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That it's like, okay, you y'all, y'all just playing around.
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You playing in my face.
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Right.
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Come on now.
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Right.
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Yeah, you playing in my face.
00:24:31.019 --> 00:24:31.579
Right.
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I want to talk about something you said to me before we kind of got started.
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And was your the people that you kind of looked up to, the singers that you kind of looked up to.
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Tell us a little bit more about that.
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Wait a minute.
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I thought we were here talking about that.
00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:54.940
Well, tell me more about that story about the the Tevin Campbell and the brand.
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Tell me more about that.
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Man.
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So these artists, like I said, I looked up to them as children.
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So on the flip side of really just meeting them and interacting them and then knowing their musical catalogs and everything they've done, it was easy for me to try to pick that up and implement what I needed, because you know they call her the vocal Bible with the runs and everything.
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So of course I wanted that.
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From her, if it wasn't her, I say Jasmine Sullivan.
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I know you know who that is.
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Come on now.
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Come on now.
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Super underrated.
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Super underrated.
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They don't talk about Jasmine Sullivan.
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You know what's funny though?
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When she first came out, she came out with that song.
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Not even probably first came out for my recollect.
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I need you back.
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I wasn't I wasn't really on it like that.
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Like I didn't appreciate it though for what it was when I first heard it.
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Everybody was trying to let me know, oh, you gotta listen to runs.
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I was still getting myself together.
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I I knew what a run was and all that stuff, but I didn't really, really know it.
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Yeah.
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So when I got into it and really got myself together and got flipped back around, I was like, oh, this is my favorite singer now.
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Yeah, even listening to her actually sing some stuff.
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Okay, yeah.
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This is it.
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Man.
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So wow.
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Yeah, I I I really developed and I got compared to the city.
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I like that group of people for a minute.
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I like I like the Tevin Campbell, I like the Brandy and the Jasmine Sullivan.
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What about Brian McKnight?
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That's amazing.
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Brian McKnight, yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're not gonna talk about what's everything all this other stuff that's going on to say.
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I know, but separate the man from me.
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It is another person that I don't want to talk about either.
00:26:32.379 --> 00:26:41.740
Yeah, it it's uh and then hearing some of some of the stuff that he says about uh you know getting rid of his other family and like oh man.
00:26:41.899 --> 00:26:44.220
See, I don't know nothing about his personal life and what's going on.
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I'm gonna put that on the record right now.
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It's crazy.
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That's all for me.
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It's a big thing strictly the music.
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One last cry, you know.
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Well, and I don't I don't really get that when your whole audience is really women.
00:26:56.460 --> 00:27:02.379
Uh like for you to like carry on like that is just I'm a little lost.
00:27:02.460 --> 00:27:04.059
I need one away, Sean.
00:27:04.379 --> 00:27:11.179
What happened was what happened was he had a family, you know, these these kids that he was singing with actually early on.
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Some of his sons that he was singing with, he left them and married someone else.
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And now he doesn't claim them anymore.
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He says, he went on saying that they don't that he basically said they were demons.
00:27:26.460 --> 00:27:32.859
And one of the sons said, Dad, I used to have to clean up your condoms when you were cheating on mom.
00:27:33.659 --> 00:27:34.059
Yeah.
00:27:34.700 --> 00:27:37.019
So the hypocrisy.
00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:43.740
He said, I used to have to do all of this stuff when I was a kid to like hide what stuff you were doing.
00:27:43.899 --> 00:27:44.460
Come on.
00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:52.460
So, and it just like he he had a performance at a college, and I think they canceled the performance because the people said, nah, we don't want to.
00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:55.019
Well, people ain't buying the sickness, they've had to get one of the things.
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I saw them for free.
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I'm sorry.
00:27:58.460 --> 00:27:59.500
I seen them for free.
00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:02.460
I saw him at Alameda County Fair in Pleasanton.
00:28:02.539 --> 00:28:02.619
Yeah.
00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:04.460
By the way, I'm performing there in a couple of weeks.
00:28:04.859 --> 00:28:05.179
There you go.
00:28:05.259 --> 00:28:05.500
Let's go.
00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:06.619
But yeah, I seen them there.
00:28:06.700 --> 00:28:08.059
I I saw Boys to Mid in there.
00:28:08.139 --> 00:28:08.779
They're my favorites.
00:28:08.859 --> 00:28:09.980
You know Wanye off top.
00:28:10.139 --> 00:28:10.379
Come on.
00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:13.259
Yeah, I got the I'm under great tools.
00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:16.539
But yeah, what music-wise, Ryan McNight is great.
00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:19.179
It's just the other stuff that now nothing.
00:28:19.579 --> 00:28:20.220
Coming along with it.
00:28:20.539 --> 00:28:21.339
I don't even want to know.
00:28:21.419 --> 00:28:22.539
You keep that to yourself.
00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:24.859
It's a little problem.
00:28:24.940 --> 00:28:27.099
And it's it's um it'll be a lot.
00:28:27.419 --> 00:28:27.980
It'll be a lot.
00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:31.179
Folks, you know, they just gotta work on their personal, you know?
00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:31.419
Yeah.
00:28:31.659 --> 00:28:32.059
It's a lot.
00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:36.539
Yeah, and then and I tell other people you never you never know who people are anyway.
00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:37.179
Exactly.
00:28:37.419 --> 00:28:40.139
So you shouldn't really idolize anyone.
00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:43.419
You you like, hey, I appreciate what they do professionally.
00:28:43.579 --> 00:28:44.059
Exactly.
00:28:44.299 --> 00:28:45.500
But I'm gonna keep it there.
00:28:45.740 --> 00:28:52.619
Hey, and you know that's funny because that's what honestly helped me start separating that fandom from a lot of stars.
00:28:53.019 --> 00:28:55.899
Really getting to know them and see them, and that really presents you.
00:28:56.299 --> 00:28:56.539
Exactly.
00:28:56.700 --> 00:29:03.419
That's what it really presents is when we're really seeing these people come out and going through a lot of the same stuff, bad and good, right?
00:29:03.579 --> 00:29:04.299
That we going through.
00:29:04.379 --> 00:29:06.940
And it's like, well, shoot, we are working hard and da da da da da.
00:29:07.179 --> 00:29:10.379
Nine times out of ten, a lot of us sound a lot better than them anyway, and da-da-da-da.
00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:12.700
So it's like, you know, let me treat you.
00:29:13.099 --> 00:29:17.259
I'm gonna give you your respect, and you know, but I ain't gotta and fall out and all that.
00:29:17.659 --> 00:29:18.619
Have a cousin that does that.
00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:19.419
You know the cousin.
00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:20.779
We have a cousin that does that.
00:29:21.819 --> 00:29:22.460
We talk about certain things.
00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:23.339
Energy is energy.
00:29:23.419 --> 00:29:24.220
I ain't mad at it.
00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:26.059
We'll talk about certain things.
00:29:26.299 --> 00:29:29.740
And gosh, we talked about, I'm trying to remember.
00:29:29.980 --> 00:29:32.379
We were talking about God.
00:29:32.460 --> 00:29:33.740
We were talking about Bill Cosby.
00:29:33.899 --> 00:29:33.980
Man.
00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:36.619
We were talking about Bill Cosby say, Bill wouldn't do that.
00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:38.379
That's I'm like, what?
00:29:38.940 --> 00:29:40.940
We don't know what Bill would do, you know?
00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:43.500
You don't know that man for Camagella.
00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:44.299
Let me shut up.
00:29:44.379 --> 00:29:49.980
Well, that's why I said when it comes to certain people, what the the things that we know now, nothing is off the table.
00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:50.779
Come on now.
00:29:51.179 --> 00:29:52.940
So you cannot idolize people.
00:29:53.099 --> 00:29:55.579
You can't, you don't know what these people do in their personal life.
00:29:55.740 --> 00:29:56.139
Come on now.
00:29:56.299 --> 00:29:57.019
You don't know what they do.
00:29:57.259 --> 00:29:59.419
Like I said, respect the artists they are.
00:29:59.819 --> 00:30:03.579
But fandom, but fandom nowadays has reached a whole new level.
00:30:03.899 --> 00:30:04.220
Yeah.
00:30:04.379 --> 00:30:10.139
Like, like, it's it's ridiculous in the sense of because you don't know these people.
00:30:10.299 --> 00:30:20.539
Like, I just wonder, like, when you read the comments, like the amount of glazing that goes on, it's enough to make you sick because it's just like, dude, you're not in getting you're not getting invited to the barbecue.
00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:23.019
Well, why why are you going so hard?
00:30:23.259 --> 00:30:24.460
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:30:24.619 --> 00:30:29.579
Like, it's ridiculous, and you gotta kind of like just be like, man, let people be people.
00:30:29.659 --> 00:30:32.220
But it's just like, man, we got grown men.
00:30:32.619 --> 00:30:32.940
Yeah.
00:30:33.419 --> 00:30:34.139
You feel me?
00:30:34.220 --> 00:30:35.179
Like going to that.
00:30:35.419 --> 00:30:36.539
Like, I've seen a lot of it.
00:30:36.700 --> 00:30:37.259
You know what I'm saying?
00:30:37.500 --> 00:30:38.379
I've seen a lot of it.
00:30:38.539 --> 00:30:42.779
I've seen a lot of it when it comes to uh just recently, I've seen a lot of the Drake people.
00:30:43.659 --> 00:30:47.419
Drake put that album there, like, oh my God, this is the greatest thing we've ever heard.
00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:48.619
Oh, okay.
00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:51.579
Okay, and then Chris Brown put a new album out.
00:30:51.899 --> 00:30:57.019
And I was telling my daughter, I was like, tell me what the Chris Brown.
00:30:57.179 --> 00:30:58.700
I was like, Chris Brown's a great performer.
00:30:58.779 --> 00:30:59.899
I love to tell him he performed.
00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:06.220
But I was like, the music kind of just to me, it just seems engineered to be on the radio.
00:31:07.179 --> 00:31:09.259
And I don't, I don't feel anything else.
00:31:09.419 --> 00:31:12.700
Like a lot of the songs that I listened to, and this new one is called Brown.
00:31:12.940 --> 00:31:16.700
I was like, a lot of I played the first one because people tell me, oh, this is a Chris Brown classic.
00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:18.859
I said, Oh, okay, let me turn the first one.
00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:20.059
I was like, okay, okay.
00:31:20.379 --> 00:31:22.059
The second one sounded the same.
00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:23.339
I said, Oh, okay.
00:31:23.819 --> 00:31:24.299
All right.
00:31:24.539 --> 00:31:25.419
Let me do the third one.
00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:26.619
Let me maybe there's something I'm missing.
00:31:26.779 --> 00:31:27.339
Let me go to the third one.
00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:28.619
Huh.
00:31:29.579 --> 00:31:33.899
Okay, that sounds like the other two we just heard.
00:31:34.460 --> 00:31:34.779
Okay.
00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:36.379
I didn't get it.
00:31:36.460 --> 00:31:38.059
I asked my daughter, she's 19.
00:31:38.700 --> 00:31:40.940
She said, I could listen to Chris Brown a long time ago.
00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:41.740
That's what she said.
00:31:41.899 --> 00:31:48.059
So I'm like, I need to find somebody that just tells me this Chris Brown, the actual music, not the performances.
00:31:48.379 --> 00:31:49.579
The performances are outstanding.
00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:50.139
No, for real.
00:31:50.299 --> 00:31:52.460
Chris Brown flipping, he's doing all the dancing.
00:31:52.779 --> 00:31:54.700
And this like he came singing and all the tools.
00:31:55.419 --> 00:31:56.139
Actual music.
00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:04.940
If I had to get in the car and drive and listen to the actual music, I was telling someone else, I'd prefer to listen to Usher if I was in the car driving.
00:32:05.179 --> 00:32:05.980
Yeah, absolutely.
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:13.419
But I just think that like sometimes we also gotta understand, like, once you've made it like a Chris Brown, they don't have the same hunger.
00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:15.659
And and like it is.
00:32:16.299 --> 00:32:20.379
That's true, but what are the why are the like you said, why what's the glazing?
00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:23.019
The glazing, like it's the greatest project you ever.
00:32:23.419 --> 00:32:26.220
I remember, but that's for it's music is a preference.
00:32:26.379 --> 00:32:27.659
Yeah, all music is a preference.
00:32:28.059 --> 00:32:33.179
So you know there's gonna be people that is gonna prefer that over whatever it is.
00:32:33.980 --> 00:32:36.619
And people that's locked in with Chris Brown is all the way locked in.
00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:37.419
Is that me?
00:32:37.819 --> 00:32:41.980
Like so once you any anything you know that he does, they like it.
00:32:42.059 --> 00:32:43.579
That don't mean everybody else likes it.
00:32:44.859 --> 00:32:49.339
They gonna eat it up because it's like I'm not I I mean I I'm guess I'm different because I'm not like that.
00:32:49.579 --> 00:32:52.700
Like after I see you did something great, wow, it's awesome.
00:32:52.940 --> 00:32:53.099
Right.
00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:54.379
What's the next thing you do?
00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:55.259
Is that gonna be great too?
00:32:55.339 --> 00:32:55.500
Right.
00:32:55.659 --> 00:32:58.299
Because I'm not gonna just say it's great just because you did it.
00:32:58.460 --> 00:32:58.859
Exactly.
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:00.700
I'm not gonna say it's great just because you did it.
00:33:00.779 --> 00:33:02.779
I do that across the board with anybody.
00:33:03.099 --> 00:33:04.700
So I I don't know.
00:33:04.779 --> 00:33:09.179
But yeah, the the glazing, like you said, but like you said, when they're locked in, they're locked in.
00:33:09.339 --> 00:33:09.500
Yeah.
00:33:09.819 --> 00:33:10.379
They're locked in.
00:33:10.619 --> 00:33:12.859
Well, certain artists, I think, uh have that privilege.
00:33:13.019 --> 00:33:22.539
Like, that's you know, like a Chris Brown, I mean, he's since Usher doesn't really put out music on a consistent basis now, so he really has no competition.
00:33:22.619 --> 00:33:32.460
I mean, like the the people that we were around for a minute, like the Trey Songs and all these, you know, these different artists that we thought would be the competition, like they didn't last.
00:33:32.619 --> 00:33:33.819
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:37.179
Like, it's like it's his show right now.
00:33:37.259 --> 00:33:39.419
So it's like with Drake with hip hop.
00:33:39.579 --> 00:33:44.139
Like, who really puts out music that on a consistent basis?
00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:46.059
Nobody's putting out three albums at one time.
00:33:46.379 --> 00:33:46.779
I'm wondering.
00:33:46.940 --> 00:33:47.740
Nobody's putting out things like that.
00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:50.460
Shoot the level of writing that take.
00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:59.179
Like, me as a writer, I understand, like, give a pass to being lazy or nothing like that, but I do understand there's so many things you could talk about.
00:33:59.259 --> 00:34:02.460
There's so many things you can say, there's so many ways you can say them.
00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:09.340
So the him being at that level he's at where they're expecting him to put out so many albums and so many songs and keep it going.
00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:10.940
Like, what am I doing?
00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:12.220
Like, what am I talking about?
00:34:12.300 --> 00:34:13.740
We we all know what we talk about.
00:34:13.820 --> 00:34:14.460
We're all human.
00:34:14.539 --> 00:34:16.220
We know, like, so I feel it.
00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:18.059
But it don't give him no excuse though.
00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:22.780
Like, yeah, you can still bring that once you set yourself somewhere, it shouldn't be lower than that.
00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:23.179
Right.
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:23.740
But you know.
00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:34.300
And I I heard I God, God forbid, but I heard Diddy say something one time when he it was on uh making the band where he was talking to, I forgot which group it was.
00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:38.460
It might have been it might have been Danity King when he was talking to them.
00:34:38.700 --> 00:34:39.099
That's the group.
00:34:39.260 --> 00:34:43.740
And he said, Right now, you guys have the luxury of nobody knowing who you are.
00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:45.820
You have the luxury of that.
00:34:46.059 --> 00:34:51.179
But he said, as soon as you put some music out, people are going to expect that.
00:34:51.500 --> 00:34:53.980
Come on now, time and time again.
00:34:54.220 --> 00:34:54.460
Right.
00:34:54.619 --> 00:34:56.780
They expect this level time and time again.
00:34:57.179 --> 00:34:58.059
You gotta give it in on it.
00:34:58.300 --> 00:35:01.740
Yeah, right now you guys have the luxury to put something out, people like, oh, this is a new group.
00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:02.940
Wow, they sound good.
00:35:03.179 --> 00:35:05.420
But then people have an expectation of you.
00:35:05.579 --> 00:35:05.659
Right.
00:35:05.980 --> 00:35:06.139
Really?
00:35:06.460 --> 00:35:07.260
It's understandable.
00:35:07.579 --> 00:35:11.579
I think a lot of people don't actually live by that.
00:35:11.820 --> 00:35:12.139
True.
00:35:12.380 --> 00:35:16.700
That expectation that when you put that out, okay, this is where you're at.
00:35:17.019 --> 00:35:19.900
But like you said, a lot of people ain't in the same mindset.
00:35:20.059 --> 00:35:26.380
So everybody don't have somebody telling them that and putting them in there, and a lot of people don't naturally feel that and all that type of stuff.
00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:28.059
You gotta be implemented in that.
00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:30.460
So yeah, true, true.
00:35:30.780 --> 00:35:42.940
Big Tay, I I I also saw that some of your producing people you looked up to were it's Teddy Riley and whatchamacallit.
00:35:44.059 --> 00:35:45.099
Oh, that's my cousin.
00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:47.420
And you know who else?
00:35:47.980 --> 00:35:52.219
Why am I why am I skipping on one of the greatest producers of all time?
00:35:52.539 --> 00:35:53.659
Why am I skipping on that?
00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:54.219
Let us know.
00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:57.500
Thriller, bad, you know, thriller is uh Quincy Jones.
00:35:57.579 --> 00:35:57.900
Yes.
00:35:58.139 --> 00:35:59.179
That's terrible, y'all.
00:35:59.259 --> 00:36:02.539
Don't mark that from And that's not my cousin for the reason.
00:36:02.860 --> 00:36:04.380
Mark that from that.
00:36:04.860 --> 00:36:05.900
I did say that twice.
00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:06.539
No, it is not.
00:36:06.619 --> 00:36:06.940
That isn't.
00:36:07.340 --> 00:36:08.860
I had a lot of stuff in my head, okay?
00:36:09.019 --> 00:36:10.380
So don't kill me with that.
00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:13.019
Quincy Jones and Teddy Riley.
00:36:13.179 --> 00:36:13.500
Yes.
00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:15.019
What do you take from them?
00:36:15.099 --> 00:36:21.179
Because I know uh you were saying a lot of your RB you like Teddy Riley's production on some of that.
00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:34.139
Yeah, well, I would say Quincy Jones initially, because I just as a kid just knowing how he puts things together and like all genres together.
00:36:34.219 --> 00:36:38.299
Like to me, back in the block, back on the block was an amazing album.
00:36:38.779 --> 00:36:51.259
Like when you look at the hip-hop mixture from Big Daddy Came, Ice T to jazz with Sarah Vaughn, Take Six, Elephant, like just and making it all mesh together.
00:36:51.659 --> 00:36:52.860
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:36:53.019 --> 00:37:02.299
And just sonically, when you hear something from Quincy Jones, like sonically, that's why Michael Jackson's albums is the shit that Quincy did.
00:37:02.380 --> 00:37:09.019
Because sonically, they is of course his voice and the songs, but sonically it sounds good.
00:37:09.500 --> 00:37:22.460
Like, you know, and so definitely him, like a lot of him just, and also him being able to play instruments and you know, just like just so just so much, like where it's just not locked into one thing.
00:37:22.539 --> 00:37:26.940
I just more was more amazed by the fact that he could like cross all genres.
00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:36.940
And Teddy Riley is just, you know, I was in high school when that when when Guy dropped and he started going on his tear, and that music was impactful for me.
00:37:37.019 --> 00:37:40.380
Like, I just feel like And he he was the creator of the New Jack Swing.
00:37:40.460 --> 00:37:41.099
Oh, of course.
00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:50.059
And so definitely those those two, but like I don't want to be limited to like, you know, just Teddy Raleigh and Quincy Jones.
00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:55.500
I say like the other people would be like Larry Smith, which was a producer.
00:37:55.579 --> 00:38:03.659
He produced the first two Ren DMC albums and the first two Houdini albums.
00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:13.019
I mean, when you listen to like The Freaks Come Out at Night and Friends, like all of those songs, if they drop today, they would they would fit right in.
00:38:13.340 --> 00:38:13.820
They still hit.
00:38:13.900 --> 00:38:14.460
They still hit that.
00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:15.179
You know what I'm saying?
00:38:15.579 --> 00:38:16.219
Like, yeah.
00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:20.059
That's how far Larry Smith was ahead.
00:38:20.219 --> 00:38:20.779
You feel me?
00:38:20.860 --> 00:38:23.739
Of everybody else, of just like making dope music.
00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:24.779
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:24.940 --> 00:38:32.860
Like, just like not just that simple mute, like just music that you could tell that he really put together when you listen to like those albums.
00:38:33.019 --> 00:38:38.059
And like I said, just what he what he gave to the game, I feel like is understated.
00:38:38.219 --> 00:38:44.460
People don't give him his props when they talk of, I've noticed when people talk about top producers, nobody says Larry Smith.
00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:48.460
Shout out to DJ Premier, because when they asked him, he put Larry Smith in there.
00:38:49.179 --> 00:38:59.900
So I say DJ Quick is also who I would say is really impactful because that's like basically what I I pattern limousine 10 after.
00:39:00.059 --> 00:39:07.659
Like his production, like just of the the types of samples he used, like the party, you know, the party vibe he's on.
00:39:07.739 --> 00:39:09.179
That's what limousine 10 is.
00:39:09.259 --> 00:39:15.900
So it's like really based on a lot of his just, you know, I'm of course the stuff I do is a little bit different.
00:39:15.980 --> 00:39:23.019
Like, but not, you know, it just was in his music impacted me to where I was like, man, I want to sound like that.
00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:24.059
You know what I'm saying?
00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:30.779
And so when I put Limousine 10 together, I was like, well, this would be the perfect time to develop, start developing that sound.
00:39:30.860 --> 00:39:38.619
So, you know, like I said, those, I would say those producers definitely had the biggest impact on like just me wanting to do it.
00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:39.820
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:47.579
Where they the music was oh oh, and I gotta say, one other producer is Maurice White from Earth, Wind and Fire.
00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:59.500
I feel like his production and being able to, you know, put that band together and you know, basically guide them and write all of that stuff.
00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:03.579
I mean, you know, like I said, he he was impactful for me.
00:40:03.739 --> 00:40:11.900
My mom told me that like when I was a kid, like the first album she bought for me was That's the Way of the World.
00:40:12.059 --> 00:40:13.820
She was like, that was your favorite song as a kid.
00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:17.019
She's like, you used to sit there and like look at the album, cut it down.
00:40:17.340 --> 00:40:17.739
Play it again.
00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:18.940
One more time.
00:40:19.259 --> 00:40:19.579
Right.
00:40:19.900 --> 00:40:27.259
So, you know, I just would say those producers probably like were the biggest impact on me wanting to do, making me want to do it.
00:40:27.340 --> 00:40:28.380
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:28.539 --> 00:40:28.940
Production.
00:40:29.099 --> 00:40:32.139
So yeah, I would say those definitely Okay.
00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:34.380
This is for both of y'all.
00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:44.860
Describe the Bay Area sound and describe when you knew Bay Area actually had their own sound, their own thing.
00:40:45.099 --> 00:40:46.380
When did you actually know that?
00:40:46.779 --> 00:40:49.340
Oh, you were we, yeah, we got our own thing.
00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:53.259
Well, like to me, you said I'm not in that.
00:40:53.340 --> 00:40:55.340
I'm all over, I'm over, I'm not in that Bay Area.
00:40:55.820 --> 00:40:57.179
Yeah, you know I'm all over the place.
00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:03.019
When y'all developed y'all's sound, I was still whip behind the ear trying to figure out what how to talk.
00:41:03.340 --> 00:41:07.099
But again, but again, when did you know that the Bay Area had a sound though?
00:41:07.179 --> 00:41:08.940
That during the hyphy movement.
00:41:09.500 --> 00:41:09.739
Okay.
00:41:10.219 --> 00:41:13.659
That's what I really because I I ain't gonna sit here.
00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:15.420
I was strictly singing.
00:41:15.659 --> 00:41:22.460
Like I would I came from a time when I was a kid, I looked at hip-hop because you know, most rap, I say rap, not hip-hop, rap.
00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:25.500
I was exposed to rap, and you know what they talk about in rap.
00:41:25.579 --> 00:41:27.099
So I was like, let me get away from that.
00:41:27.179 --> 00:41:27.900
It's not real to me.
00:41:27.980 --> 00:41:30.219
I ain't got nothing to do with that, let me still be here.
00:41:30.779 --> 00:41:33.099
So I turned my ear, I had older brothers.
00:41:33.259 --> 00:41:36.299
They love RBA music, listening to um Keek the Sneak.
00:41:36.380 --> 00:41:37.980
That was my guy right there, Mac Dre.
00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:43.820
You know, when I was hearing them and their music and what E40 was doing, then I was like, okay, we're doing something.
00:41:43.900 --> 00:41:44.699
This is unique.
00:41:44.779 --> 00:41:47.500
I don't hear it like, you know, you get behind this.
00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:48.139
Yeah, you don't hear that.
00:41:48.539 --> 00:41:52.779
Even though we're still talking about, you know, what we're talking about, going stupid and all that type of stuff.
00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:57.019
I can still relate in a way because, you know, I was a, you know, doing my moves too.
00:41:57.259 --> 00:41:58.860
So I felt it in that area.
00:41:59.019 --> 00:42:00.460
Yeah, everybody there got behind it.
00:42:00.619 --> 00:42:00.860
Exactly.
00:42:01.019 --> 00:42:03.579
It even spilled out to other areas in California.
00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:04.059
Exactly.
00:42:04.219 --> 00:42:06.139
And then, like you said, would perform in this time.
00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:09.659
Come on, now like, no, y'all not, no, stop that.
00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:12.059
Yeah, come on, now not the Bay Area, stop that.
00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:13.340
Stop that.
00:42:13.579 --> 00:42:17.340
Well, it became like LA for a minute where everybody just claimed the Bay Area.
00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:18.380
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:19.340
Because it was cool to do.
00:42:20.139 --> 00:42:24.699
If we were in the vicinity, we'd be like, Well, I'm I'm in Valley, I'm in, I'm in uh Vaccaville.
00:42:24.779 --> 00:42:25.659
We Bay Area.
00:42:26.139 --> 00:42:27.019
No, you're not.
00:42:27.259 --> 00:42:27.739
Wait a minute.
00:42:27.900 --> 00:42:28.539
I was just saying that.
00:42:29.659 --> 00:42:31.980
In certain parts that be like, yeah, we from the Bay.
00:42:32.139 --> 00:42:34.219
It's like you are, but you like a distant cousin.
00:42:34.380 --> 00:42:34.619
Exactly.
00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:35.340
Ain't the same.
00:42:35.659 --> 00:42:35.980
Exactly.
00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:40.460
Like we feel you and it's good for and looking and all of them that don't know.
00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:43.019
You can have that, but yeah, we know.
00:42:43.500 --> 00:42:45.099
We know you are not in Bay Area.
00:42:45.340 --> 00:42:46.779
Shout out to all of the bad man.
00:42:46.940 --> 00:42:49.500
You know, we love all of y'all, it's all good, you know?
00:42:49.739 --> 00:42:51.179
But we know who by the water.
00:42:52.619 --> 00:42:56.699
Yeah, if you ain't by the water, you ain't the water, you ain't re-evaluated.
00:42:56.860 --> 00:43:02.539
Yeah, because we like say up here in Sacramento, some of the people here be talking about they be doing the dances.
00:43:03.019 --> 00:43:03.820
I'm like, what are you doing?
00:43:04.380 --> 00:43:04.860
Wait a minute.
00:43:05.259 --> 00:43:06.059
Now y'all know.
00:43:07.259 --> 00:43:09.019
Y'all been the distance of casting.
00:43:09.179 --> 00:43:09.340
Right.
00:43:09.579 --> 00:43:10.059
What are you doing?
00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:10.460
Right.
00:43:10.619 --> 00:43:10.940
That part.
00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:11.739
Twice removed.
00:43:11.900 --> 00:43:12.380
What do you do?
00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:19.259
Well, I gotta say, to answer the question, I gotta say early in the the early 90s.
00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:20.299
That's early 90s.
00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:22.299
That's when the bae really like popped up.
00:43:23.340 --> 00:43:25.019
Yeah, he said I was not here at the time.
00:43:25.099 --> 00:43:25.900
1991.
00:43:26.779 --> 00:43:33.900
The early bae, I say Kyrie from uh Valleo, which you know was Mac Dre's original producer.
00:43:34.139 --> 00:43:40.139
And he put out Mac Mall and Ray Love, and he had the Young Black Brother Records for shout out Kyrie.
00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:47.579
And I would say TC, because I think all of the groups in those 90s, the early 90s were produced by TC.
00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:52.380
Like he did Gimme No Bamber Weed, like Totally Insane.
00:43:52.779 --> 00:43:56.139
He did Dre Dog's first album, some tracks on there.
00:43:56.299 --> 00:44:01.420
It's just like every he's touched everybody that's that's dope, like TC.
00:44:01.659 --> 00:44:05.980
So I feel like, and then DJ Darrell from 405, who I brought up earlier.
00:44:06.059 --> 00:44:12.619
Like, I feel like they were the people that helped craft the sound of like the Bay Area.
00:44:12.699 --> 00:44:13.739
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:19.259
We like we we was going back taking all of the dope samples before people was really using them.
00:44:19.500 --> 00:44:22.940
Like, and you know, because like the the Bammer Weed people don't know.
00:44:23.099 --> 00:44:28.380
That's like uh a Marvin Gaye sample from a live show, like an intro.
00:44:28.699 --> 00:44:31.579
And it's just that little part in there that he took.
00:44:31.739 --> 00:44:34.940
And so I just feel like things like that got it started.
00:44:35.179 --> 00:44:45.900
11-5, like it's so many, so many groups, but I think that those produ those three producers were intricate and starting it off like the Bay Area having a sound.
00:44:46.059 --> 00:44:49.900
Because like, you know, Mac Dre went too hard for the fucking radio.
00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:52.139
So that's what got it started back then.
00:44:52.299 --> 00:44:53.500
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:44:53.659 --> 00:45:09.579
So that's why I would say those three producers are intricate in in crafting the Bay Area sounding, and it was so many producers to follow next, E40s producers, Studio Tone, Mike Mosley, Sam Bostick, like it was so many people that came after that.
00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:15.099
So I just feel like that birthed everybody else, you know, to do their thing here in the Bay Area.
00:45:15.179 --> 00:45:16.299
That's just my perspective.
00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:17.019
Okay.
00:45:17.659 --> 00:45:18.779
We'll end with this.
00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:22.860
The music business has changed a lot since you started.
00:45:23.099 --> 00:45:23.420
Yes.
00:45:24.299 --> 00:45:27.900
A little bit since you live changed a little bit since you like our night.
00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:29.099
So it's changed a lot.
00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:31.900
It's changed slightly.
00:45:31.980 --> 00:45:34.139
Now we everyone's making money off of their streaming.
00:45:34.299 --> 00:45:34.699
Come on now.
00:45:34.940 --> 00:45:38.779
Instead of selling albums, you know, record stores don't even exist anymore.
00:45:39.980 --> 00:45:44.460
Which is true, that's which I spoke to uh another head of a label.
00:45:44.619 --> 00:45:46.460
This may have been about 2010.
00:45:46.619 --> 00:45:56.860
I was interviewing him, and he said he wished that we could go back to making our CD and selling it for you know 10, 15 bucks and people actually buying that.
00:45:57.099 --> 00:45:57.500
Come on out.
00:45:57.739 --> 00:45:59.739
He's that's what he said he wished we can go back to.
00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:08.619
And this was 2010 before well, streaming was heavy then, but now it's they're making new deals with streaming and things like that.
00:46:08.779 --> 00:46:23.019
So what do you think uh the the most detrimental change to the music uh business has been since you uh were aware of it, and what has been the best change to the music business since you've been aware of it?
00:46:23.259 --> 00:46:26.219
Well, I think streaming to me has really ruined that.
00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:31.340
I mean, it just streaming is just uh a tool to make it accessible to the public.
00:46:31.420 --> 00:46:32.619
Like more easily.
00:46:33.099 --> 00:46:36.539
Not the artist, it it's it's right doesn't help the artist much, right?
00:46:36.619 --> 00:46:42.059
It it makes it easily more easily accessible to the customer, which is what they're trying to serve.
00:46:42.380 --> 00:46:48.940
I just think when I look at streaming, it's just another way to get over on artists.
00:46:49.019 --> 00:46:51.579
I mean, you got like artists like Snoop.
00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:54.699
Like he said he couldn't even tell you like the breakdown of what he's doing.
00:46:54.860 --> 00:46:55.900
But the breakdown of what he's doing.
00:46:56.219 --> 00:46:57.019
Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:57.179 --> 00:47:03.500
Like, so you don't know, and I'm I hear crazy numbers like people having millions of streams and only got a few hundred dollars.
00:47:03.579 --> 00:47:06.940
It's just like, how the hell does that happen if you got millions of streams?
00:47:07.099 --> 00:47:10.940
Like, so you just hear all of these different things, but I think it's just kind of ruined it.
00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:19.739
It's just something about when as a consumer, somebody was about to drop, and you was like, Man, I'm about to be at the record store early in the morning.
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:24.619
I'm hitting Tower Records early in the morning, and the cop that knew, you know, whatever.
00:47:24.779 --> 00:47:27.579
So, you know, it it's different in that sense.
00:47:27.659 --> 00:47:30.699
I was like, the kids of the day don't really understand like what that meant.
00:47:31.099 --> 00:47:32.779
You actually had to go get the music.
00:47:33.019 --> 00:47:33.340
Physically.
00:47:33.579 --> 00:47:37.099
You had to physically go get the music at the at the record store.
00:47:37.340 --> 00:47:38.779
Yeah, you have to physically go get the music.
00:47:39.500 --> 00:47:41.739
So you heard it in day?
00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:42.860
So I remember a little bit.
00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:44.059
A little bit, okay.
00:47:44.139 --> 00:47:44.699
The tail end.
00:47:44.779 --> 00:47:45.500
You got the tailwind.
00:47:47.259 --> 00:47:53.420
I think, you know, it it just kind of ruined things because like everything is about streams now.
00:47:53.579 --> 00:47:57.420
And to me, just because something is streamed don't mean is necessarily good.
00:47:57.579 --> 00:48:03.420
I mean, some people could just like hear about a song and just listen to it just to hear what all the hoopla's about.
00:48:03.659 --> 00:48:06.539
That don't mean that they gonna put it on their playlist all of a sudden.
00:48:06.619 --> 00:48:07.659
It don't guarantee that.
00:48:07.820 --> 00:48:15.259
But yeah, I just think that aspect of it is is and then it's just open the door to like everybody.
00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:26.059
Also, the downside is I liked it when it was like an exclusive club as far as like being a singer or being hit in the hip hop or whatever you're doing.
00:48:26.219 --> 00:48:28.619
I liked it when it's exclusive to real talent.
00:48:28.860 --> 00:48:32.860
It's like that goes back to developing talent actually.
00:48:34.779 --> 00:48:43.420
And record companies, they're there, you could be a shitty artist, but if you have millions and millions of followers, they'll be like, uh, we pushing that.
00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:47.019
Because it really we don't have to do the work.
00:48:47.179 --> 00:48:51.820
Like they already got the people, so we don't have to like train them on this or that.
00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:54.539
Like, they already got the fan base, we just gonna push that.
00:48:54.699 --> 00:49:04.299
And I think it's just pushed a lot of whack music into the forefront, and people calling it good, and it's just like I'm not gonna hate on anybody's musical preference.
00:49:04.619 --> 00:49:05.420
Is it just don't ask me?
00:49:05.980 --> 00:49:06.860
Yeah, just like that.
00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:08.699
But if you ask me, I'm gonna tell you the truth, though.
00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:09.739
The shit ain't for me.
00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:11.259
Yeah, I don't dig it.
00:49:11.340 --> 00:49:15.420
Like, you know, it's just but I'm also looking at things from a different perspective.
00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:21.259
I'm still like about lyrics and as well as cool beats, but I'm also want to know what you're talking about.
00:49:21.340 --> 00:49:27.500
Like, sometimes it's just like you don't have to be spitting the most like Nas type shit.
00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:31.500
If you own a song and you talking your shit, like that's good enough for me.
00:49:31.579 --> 00:49:32.699
Like, and and I like it.
00:49:32.779 --> 00:49:42.219
So it's not about not hating, but I just feel like mumbling and just saying them, you know, saying a bunch of bullshit ain't really doing it for me.
00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:44.940
Like that that's just that's just really what it is.
00:49:45.099 --> 00:49:48.059
I'm like, I but I don't have I because I don't have to listen to it.
00:49:48.139 --> 00:49:49.420
That's the difference.
00:49:49.579 --> 00:49:52.219
I don't get all like caught up in it like that.
00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:56.139
But I feel like it's opened the door to more whack people.
00:49:56.219 --> 00:49:57.420
It's not exclusive anymore.
00:49:57.500 --> 00:49:58.219
Anybody could do it.
00:49:58.299 --> 00:49:58.699
Yeah.
00:49:58.940 --> 00:49:59.820
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:59.980 --> 00:50:03.019
Which it gets saturated with a lot of bullshit when it's like that.
00:50:03.099 --> 00:50:03.340
Yeah.
00:50:03.500 --> 00:50:15.099
Like, so I just feel like I said, it it could be somebody that has greater talent than somebody being pushed right now, but it don't matter because the person being pushed already got built-in followers.
00:50:15.659 --> 00:50:36.940
Without the followers, they're being seen, and people and that's and then like I said, and and people caught up in uh social media, I feel like it's good, but I feel like it's bad also because you know what you learn about like IG to me is is like it's cool, but I just feel like when you look at the most popular people, you either act in an ass or showing your ass.
00:50:37.179 --> 00:50:43.579
Those are the most popular people on Instagram, and I feel like it gives people this false sense.
00:50:43.659 --> 00:50:47.099
It's like the game is smoking mirrors, literally, right now.
00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:51.820
Like you think somebody is on the internet popping, and they really not.
00:50:51.900 --> 00:50:58.380
Like, you look at Megan Thee Stallion, for instance, nobody gives a shit about her music.
00:50:58.699 --> 00:51:03.340
Because like when it drops, people be on it for a minute and then they off the shit real quick.
00:51:03.500 --> 00:51:08.219
And then, but if she's going through some man problems or some shit, man, she got all the support in the world.
00:51:08.299 --> 00:51:11.659
You just be like, but you won't support the music.
00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:20.860
You know, so it's become more people care about people's stories and personal lives also versus just caring about the music.
00:51:21.259 --> 00:51:33.420
So I just feel like social media has somewhat skewed people's like how they're listening to things because people are like taking in things into consideration that don't matter.
00:51:33.579 --> 00:51:36.219
Like to me, if we just talking about music.
00:51:36.460 --> 00:51:40.219
And I just think I just hope we start going in a better direction.
00:51:40.299 --> 00:51:45.659
Like, you know, people start like really trying to get behind and support people who deserve the support.
00:51:45.739 --> 00:51:54.860
Because I just feel like we're gonna lose a lot of artists that were great over bullshit artists that got followers that don't, that are not as good, you know.
00:51:55.340 --> 00:51:57.900
But I would say the flip side, the internet.
00:51:58.139 --> 00:51:59.500
Again, it's the gift and the curse.
00:51:59.659 --> 00:52:02.699
Internet is good because then you could really make something go viral.
00:52:03.259 --> 00:52:06.139
I'm more about making something go viral that's organic.
00:52:06.380 --> 00:52:15.820
Not some shit that's like on some AI or some shit that, oh, we we made this grand plan to do some bullshit just to get the spark to get the spark going.
00:52:15.980 --> 00:52:22.059
I'm more about the organic, like just dropping some shit, putting it out there and see who likes it and who doesn't.
00:52:22.219 --> 00:52:23.099
I feel like so.
00:52:23.179 --> 00:52:25.019
That's why I said it's the gift and the curse.
00:52:25.179 --> 00:52:43.900
I feel like at the end of the day, being able to be an artist and be in control of your own thing, and you know, having music and being able to get on something, the platform, and pushing your music like that, like that's cool because it puts everything in your hands, which is how it should be.
00:52:44.139 --> 00:52:49.259
Because the minute you sign with a company and take a check, you no longer have control.
00:52:50.059 --> 00:53:03.980
They they're gonna tell you what single is dropping, no matter, you know, and which is crazy because you just as a record label, you just be like, how the hell is a record label gonna tell me how to sell to my audience?
00:53:04.940 --> 00:53:09.500
You know, but it's like I said, it's once you take the check, is that that's what comes with that.
00:53:10.139 --> 00:53:22.940
So I just feel like the being able to be independent is a good thing, but I just feel like the streaming and everything else is really like and people caring about like the wrong things.
00:53:23.099 --> 00:53:26.299
Like, I don't care about uh somebody's story.
00:53:26.619 --> 00:53:29.259
I I I'm wanna I'm in it to hear the music.
00:53:30.539 --> 00:53:31.579
Like I like you know what I'm saying?
00:53:31.659 --> 00:53:34.380
Like we we've we've as a country we like the mess.
00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:35.099
Right.
00:53:35.259 --> 00:53:41.980
We've we've we like them, you know, like my girls will will sit around and watch uh baddies on TV.
00:53:42.299 --> 00:53:42.940
Guilty.
00:53:45.259 --> 00:53:46.380
They is fighting the whole time.
00:53:46.860 --> 00:53:48.219
Then it's all the public, what?
00:53:48.380 --> 00:53:50.139
But no, see, that's the problem.
00:53:50.299 --> 00:53:51.980
That's all y'all pay attention to.
00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:54.699
That's not all it is, but all right, all right, come on.
00:53:54.860 --> 00:53:56.219
But that's that's the hook, though.
00:53:56.299 --> 00:53:59.099
Yeah, the hook is the fighting, the hook is the mess.
00:53:59.739 --> 00:54:02.219
There may be more in there, but the hook is the mess.
00:54:02.699 --> 00:54:03.739
We like the mess.
00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:05.739
We like the we like a car crash.
00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.139
That's a positive person.
00:54:08.299 --> 00:54:11.900
So I can sit there and just say, uh, I'm right there for the fight.
00:54:12.299 --> 00:54:16.059
I just want to see, these are a group of women that are like that.
00:54:16.219 --> 00:54:21.340
Can I looking for can they really separate that and go do what they're supposed to do?
00:54:21.500 --> 00:54:24.539
And I love when there is women on that show that really can do that.
00:54:24.779 --> 00:54:27.980
You may be one of the only people that think that way, because I'm very positive people.
00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:34.059
Like, even with everything he was talking about, like I'm not gonna sit there and dwell, there is another negative to the industry right now.
00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:34.940
And we all know that.
00:54:35.019 --> 00:54:36.380
So I don't gotta elaborate on that.
00:54:36.619 --> 00:54:41.500
But what I do like is even for me personally, I love the freedom that I have as an artist.
00:54:41.579 --> 00:54:46.460
I love that I can do what I want to do and cater to my people that's gonna listen.
00:54:46.619 --> 00:54:47.820
Because this is how I feel.
00:54:48.059 --> 00:54:51.019
The real, no matter what, is gonna go through.
00:54:51.259 --> 00:54:53.259
People are gonna gravitate towards what's real.
00:54:53.420 --> 00:54:56.219
People are gonna gravitate what's original, authentic.
00:54:56.380 --> 00:54:59.099
Me and my music is gonna be original and authentic.
00:54:59.179 --> 00:55:00.940
So I know I'm gonna get what I'm supposed to get.
00:55:01.019 --> 00:55:04.860
I'm not worried about what's oversaturated and who will do that.
00:55:04.940 --> 00:55:05.900
That's all great for y'all.
00:55:05.980 --> 00:55:08.139
Mine is gonna be mine because people are gonna feel that.
00:55:08.299 --> 00:55:14.380
And I love that we in the stage where me wanting to mix funk with you know with the hip hop and some party.
00:55:14.619 --> 00:55:15.179
You can do what you want.
00:55:15.420 --> 00:55:15.900
I can do that.
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Yeah.
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So where can people find you?
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Right now, you can find me on Instagram, underscore DKX5.
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I got a music page that's on its way doing things, trying DK underscore DKX music or music X, one of the two.
00:55:31.900 --> 00:55:33.420
Do the X5 one first.
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Uh I got Facebook, D R Kashif.
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I would spell it, D-I-A-R-R-A, Kashif.
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You should not have to spell that if you don't.
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You know, educate yourself.
00:55:45.500 --> 00:55:46.699
That man is wonderful.
00:55:46.779 --> 00:55:49.179
And I'm about to, you know, I'm wrong, I'm times two.
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So you gotta carry the name on.
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Let's go, man.
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DR Kashef, blessing your ears, that true gift, man.
00:55:56.619 --> 00:55:58.619
Big T, where can people find you?
00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:01.099
And give a shout out to the limousine 10 crew.
00:56:02.460 --> 00:56:04.779
That's we gotta give a shout out to the fam, man.
00:56:05.420 --> 00:56:13.659
Say what's up to Lil Flower Nasty, my boy Rome, my boy Rome, my boy Billy Bones, you feel me?
00:56:13.739 --> 00:56:15.340
And who else we got?
00:56:15.500 --> 00:56:15.900
Mike.
00:56:16.059 --> 00:56:16.380
Mike?
00:56:16.619 --> 00:56:21.099
DJ Mike, of course, like one of the best DJs out there, DJ Mike.
00:56:21.340 --> 00:56:22.860
And Mike.
00:56:24.139 --> 00:56:25.019
Which one?
00:56:25.579 --> 00:56:26.059
Mike.
00:56:26.219 --> 00:56:26.940
Oh, yeah.
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My boy Mike lockdown.
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You feel me?
00:56:31.019 --> 00:56:32.059
Like, the whole fam.
00:56:32.619 --> 00:56:38.779
Eddie Kay, like who's also down with the group that helps produce and actually brought us together.
00:56:39.019 --> 00:56:40.219
My boy Murray.
00:56:41.579 --> 00:56:46.380
Man, on Instagram, I'm Tabig.
00:56:47.099 --> 00:56:48.940
That's my personal page.
00:56:49.099 --> 00:56:58.619
And the Real Limousine Collective on IG is the other page where you can find all our stuff, like, you know, like performances.
00:56:58.779 --> 00:57:03.579
And you know, we try to put a little bit of something for everybody when we especially when we do shows.
00:57:03.739 --> 00:57:07.259
With the last radio interview we did, like, people really responded to that.
00:57:07.420 --> 00:57:14.299
So shout out to everybody for taking the time to, you know, peep, peep that, like the the views was way up on that.
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So we appreciate that.
00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:17.099
There it is.
00:57:17.259 --> 00:57:22.380
And you guys make sure to follow us, the Mike Delete Later Podcast, because we don't have a lot of followers.
00:57:22.539 --> 00:57:23.340
We don't have enough.
00:57:23.900 --> 00:57:25.420
I tell you guys this all the time.
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So do something about it.
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All right.
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Real tall.
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Stop playing.
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And uh we'll see you guys next time.
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All right.