Yes & Baby | S4 E7

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Welcome back, everyone.
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I'm Nick Niglio.
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And I am Marnie Stockman, and this is Lead It Like Lasso, the Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast.
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We are the co-authors of Lead It Like Lasso, a leadership book for life, your life.
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Yeah, and as you probably know by now, we don't talk much about soccer here.
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We dive into each episode looking for topics around leadership, coaching, and culture.
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And for today's episode, we're diving into season four, episode seven.
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God, I can't believe we're up to seven already.
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I know.
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Yes and baby.
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Yeah.
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In this episode, we finally see what uh, not finally, but it's really concrete.
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We see what playing for a second division women's football team actually means, right?
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Lizzie's got child care problems, Jenna has an internship conflict, twins really can't afford that rent increase, and Boots Car won't start.
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Of course, Shannon, we get Shannon back.
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She's uh she's delivering food, and every vignette seems to end with shit.
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You want to give us the show summary?
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Start us off.
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Yeah, so the new year begins with uh Lady Greyhounds juggling football, like you said, with the really the very real financial family and career pressures of playing in England's second division.
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Alice, meanwhile, determined to become a better version of herself, embraces a new philosophy.
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Yes, yes, and yes.
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Unfortunately, saying yes to everything isn't exactly great coaching.
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Uh, so Ted introduces her to an improv concept that changes everything.
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Yes, and.
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Oh, we do uh love ourselves some improv, don't we?
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Um, uh Richmond learns that Danny Rojas's agent is using a fake transfer offer to pressure the club into giving Roy a better contract.
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And surprise, Zelda offers to help Rebecca and Higgins expose the bluff.
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Keely helps Ted create a banter profile while Roy continues talking about Keely so much that Aaron finally tells him what everyone else already knows and that he's in love with someone else, specifically Keely.
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And Alice finally begins connecting with Shannon and the team, really.
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Uh but when Alice hangs Ted's new believe sign in the women's locker room, the players rejected.
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They already believe they need something more.
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So they make the sign their own.
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Believe and win.
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And finally, Ted uh skips that dating app and asks the stage manager out in person.
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She'd love to, except she just started seeing someone else in those darn apps.
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Shit.
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All right.
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Initial reactions, what'd you think?
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Oh, I like the episode.
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Uh yes, I was a fan.
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How about you?
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Yeah, I I I think if I had to put it around one central theme, it's in the title, right?
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It's and not simply yes.
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Um yeah, yes accepts what's happening, right?
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And and is what you're gonna do with it.
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And we see that throughout, I think, the whole episode, right?
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Alice wants to change and changes her behavior, right?
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The women believe and need results.
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Uh Ted believes he's lovable and has to put himself out there.
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It just keeps going on and on.
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Um, even the whole start that you went through of they are all soccer and all of these other things because they have to be.
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Yep, yep, they absolutely do.
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Um so uh Easter eggs, callbacks, pop culture references, did you flag a couple on this episode?
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I did flag a couple.
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Um, well, yes, and you've already said is an improv thing, right?
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Which we we have known.
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We've talked about that before.
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But uh when when uh Zelda calls the agent, Rebecca and Higgins have to do improv.
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So Rebecca has to pretend to be somebody else, and she takes it and runs with it, and then the whole music comes on, and Higgins' improv is jazz, which is improv.
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I think that's that's clever.
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That's a very that feels like the writers that we've known and loved for four seasons.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I love the fact that that whole scene was improv.
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I I absolutely I had that one written down.
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And you know, they're calling the agent, whose name is Derek.
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Again, we get another Derek who Derek, yeah.
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You know, uh not not seen in the greatest light.
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Um man, they have something against Derek, don't they?
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I I do wonder which one of their actual characters like knows somebody that Derek did them dirty in some way.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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I I have to because I'm a huge Peaky Blinders fan.
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I think Roy shuffling in on Jazzy, his Black Beauty or his scooter, especially somebody coming off a scooter with broken angle ankle, but uh Roy coming in.
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I know I don't think you're a big Peaky Blinders fan, but uh playing Red Right Hand, uh, which is a big song in the show, looking exactly like the same filming in light of Tommy Shelby walking in, um, who's the lead character in Piky Blinders.
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Uh, it was perfect.
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And I believe that song, Red Right Hand, was used in a couple of other Guy Ritchie, uh, even though Pee Blinders wasn't Guy Ritchie, but he has used that song and he was brought up in the show by Zelda Tracy Elman as well.
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Yeah, you I could have stewed on that one all day and wouldn't have come up with that.
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Uh, how about when Arch is uh asked by Ted uh to open the bag of chips again and the three words?
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And I thought, didn't um in season one, didn't Ted talk about when Henry was little, he called him like poopy head or something.
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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And then Arch called him poopy buttons, in addition to strong, which was a callback also.
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Yeah, and the Ted tax, stealing, stealing.
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So Ted tax on there.
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Um, how about Keely saying to Roy, like, knock it off?
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Would you stop acting like people celebrating you is the worst thing in the world?
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Reminded me of when she said to Jamie, um, you know, stop realize, you know, stop acting like uh people trying to help you are only trying to hurt you.
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I felt like that was sort of the same feels.
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Wise, as always.
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Um, and it was nice to see uh Ted recognize that later in the show uh with the three words that he used to describe uh gilly and resilient, hopeful.
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My darn it was one of those.
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I'm sure we'll come back to it.
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The chair.
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Kind, yes.
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That damn chair.
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I mean, again, it sinks to the bottom.
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I mean, I I know if we're doing predictions later, but do you have you kind of refined any prediction relating to what that chair actually means?
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I uh yeah, I'll um come back to predictions.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh the cheetah uh tricky bell or leopard that the uh that is um in the office, Keeley's office.
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You know, I I went to an exhibit with one of those, and I made my kids take a picture of me growling at it.
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It was a Lego exhibit.
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That's perfect.
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Side note.
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All right, we uh Charlotte's Webb, great book.
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Um the messaging, right, that Beard is actually reading, right?
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You've been my friend, and that in itself is a tremendous thing.
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Um, you know, that's basically Ted's philosophy, right?
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He he he doesn't help people because they earned it, right?
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I mean, he's his you're my friend, I'm gonna help you.
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And and I think him helping, you know, Keely, although he went in under the the premise of filling out the banter form, I think deep inside he knew that Keely needed some love there.
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I and I think oh well, there's also the men are scorpions that um fable Frog and the Scorpion, yeah.
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We love ourselves a fable, don't we?
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Oh, we do.
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We might talk about that a little bit later.
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Yeah, okay, excellent.
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I think the that was uh well I you know what I find they've called out Dally Parton before, but um Dally Parton to be part of the improv just yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Uh timing a little bit weird and um yeah, just very sad about the Dally Parton news.
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So um, so what let's talk about leadership insights.
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What did what did what did you take away from this episode?
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Because I've got a I've got to list a handful of them.
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I I also have a handful.
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Uh so uh the first thing I thought of, well, the I want to talk about the intro and everybody's you know issues that they're having.
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But the first thing I wrote down was self-awareness when Ted was staring at banter, which is a callback in and of itself, right?
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That banter's back this season.
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Um and and you and I, I mean, that is what we help people figure out every single day.
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And Ted is looking at basically a blinking cursor of give me three words that describe yourself.
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Uh and it was kind of funny for me because just yesterday I was at a high school, I volunteered to do mock interviews, and with the other folks in the room, we interviewed 192 students.
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And uh, of course, we were asked to ask the question, tell me about yourself.
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And half of the students started, I don't know what to say.
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And the other half could come up with some words, but no stories.
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Uh, and so, Ted, you're not the only one that struggles with this, but you and I've talked about this before.
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We talk about it all the time.
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Self-awareness is one of the top predictors of success because when you know who you are.
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And Ted knows who he is, he just doesn't know how to wrap it into two into three words, I think.
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Um, but yeah, I think the whole notion of self-awareness is critically important and not just for dating profiles.
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My goodness, yes.
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And and for those that don't know in the audience, yeah, we wrote a book about Ted Lasso, but we also wrote a book called The Business of You, uh, which is about it's a fable coming back to It is a fable, no animals, no.
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And it's about it's about a young lady who is supposedly doing all the all the things that she she is supposed to be doing and was told to do, but is having a really hard time standing out and differentiating herself.
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And um what we what a major theme of the book is you know how you go about answering the things, the the simple question of tell me about yourself, which is exactly what Ted is struggling, and it's what so many of us actually struggle with.
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And what we find, because we do a lot of mentoring specifically with young people, is that most people default to listing facts about themselves.
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And Marnie and I do this activity that we talk about, a yellow card, blue card activity, where uh we ask them to describe themselves first on a yellow card.
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And what do they always do?
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They list their facts, right?
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I have this title or I have this certification, I have this diploma.
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Um, and that doesn't really help you describe yourself and the way people will remember you, right?
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So then we talk about the blue card in which you write down stories, right?
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Tell me about yourself.
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Man, I really love the New York Jets, and I I really love problem solving.
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And it's funny how those two things can relate to each other and and you can get a story out of it.
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So um, you know, so yes, I think the fact that Ted is struggling with this is really puts a different spin on it because Ted can tell you exactly what makes Jamie special, what makes Roy special, Rebecca special, Keeley special, Alice special.
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But when when somebody asks, who are you?
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he freezes.
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And I think this is kind of a callback to last week, right?
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Where you know, continuous improvement, right?
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And he's he's brilliant at seeing other people, but he's still learning to see himself.
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So I thought that was that was right up our alley for sure.
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Yeah.
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And the struggle is real, you know, being able to communicate who you are is is really a big deal.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Do you want to take a go at a uh leadership?
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You want me to read another one?
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Uh go ahead, you read another one.
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So uh I thought the whole idea of core values.
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So you and I talk about this all the time as well.
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When we work with companies or school systems, and we talk about defining your core values as a company, and that that really needs to come before the big vision of what you're doing, that you need to know who you are first.
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And, you know, one of Ted's core values is believe.
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And he's got the poster on in his office, and he's not sure that's where it belongs.
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And how many times have we walked into a company and we've seen the posters on the wall, and we've seen the good and the bad of what happens with this?
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We've walked in some places where the posters on the wall, the entire company doesn't just know what the poster says, but they also understand how it plays out because the culture of the company is the behaviors that align to what the actual core values are.
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And I thought the notion that the ladies couldn't have, you just can't have a core value.
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You can't just borrow belief, right?
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Yep.
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You have to understand how it's gonna play out for you.
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And in their case, the the action that's going to happen because they believe is they are going to win, right?
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That's they're gonna be their focus.
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That's how they're gonna hit those goals.
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So I'm sure core values dawn on you, so I'll stop talking and let you tell me what you thought of it.
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Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I I wrote it down too.
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And I I loved one line that was hard to hear, but because I watch it, you watch it.
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I know with subtitles, I I saw it was like, you know, you can't just copy and paste this, right?
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That you know, it's you know, Shannon asked, right, isn't isn't there already one in the men's locker room?
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Uh and you know, basically saying, are we getting a hand-me-down culture, right?
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And and I think Oh, I like that, a hand-me-down culture.
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Yeah, I think that's incredibly relevant to organizations.
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Uh, a new team can't simply inherit somebody else's rituals, somebody else's values, their language, their traditions, right?
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And automatically feel ownership.
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And I think that's that's what the ladies were were trying to say, and that's exactly what you're saying, right?
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They respect belief, but they need to define what believe needs means to them.
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And just like you said, it's it's and, right?
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Believe and win.
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And that's, you know, and it's it's not just one thing I definitely took away from this, it's not just winning at soccer, right?
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It's winning at life.
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It's making sure the car starts, it's making sure they they have the time to pursue the internship and they could afford their rent, uh, you know, that that their kids have taken care of.
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Um, and I think that that is, you know, we've said it so many times during this season, that is we're the same, but it's different, right?
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And we're starting to see the differences in this women's team.
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And um I think, yes, you know, keep keep showing us that.
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I think that's that's really important.
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So you said something there that was the other piece of what I wanted to connect to the beginning.
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You know, I'm a super fan of Maslow's hierarchy.
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So for those of you playing along at home, if this is the first time you've heard me, and I'll I'll describe Maslow's hierarchy.
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It's the hierarchy of needs.
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And everybody's base needs are air, water, food, shelter, right?
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And then from there, it's safety needs.
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Am I secure?
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Am I safe?
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Employment, do I have all the resources I need?
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Am I healthy?
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Then the third level is the love and belonging, family, friendships, etc.
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Fourth level is esteem, and the fifth level is basically the best version of yourself.
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And if you are hungry or don't have a place to stay that night, or that's in jeopardy, you can't worry about the higher levels until those base needs are taken care of.
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And so that's, you know, like the belief and the becoming the best version of the team, that is harder for the women because the men's team had no problem with all of their base needs whatsoever.
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And so it is really a struggle for them to believe, because belief is not the base value, right?
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It is do I have enough food?
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Can I can I pay my rent?
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And so that is, I think, really something that was critically important.
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And I also think it's why they had to have the tactical, actionable element of and win on the belief sign.
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Because if you are just living in the big ideal utopia of belief, um, you might not understand the actions you need to take to play it out because you're mired in tactical.
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So they needed that and win.
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That's that is what that looks like for us.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, I mean, Maslow's hierarchy is is uh I I have heard you speak about that.
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You know, so you have?
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I mean, as as as I I think through kind of how we have gotten to where we are today, right?
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And and and part of it was, you know, starting a company in a space that that we did not know, right?
00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:17.279
Fish out of water story, just you know, that's why we relate so much to Ted Lasso.
00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:32.000
But if if we didn't build up the security through all the years of our employment and family and all that stuff, our respective families, right, you know, we would have never taken that risk.
00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:38.079
And, you know, we are kind of living, breathing examples of Maslow's hierarchy.
00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:43.279
And um, you know, I you know, it's very relevant for the lady greyhounds, right?
00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:52.559
And you're you're starting to see if they they need those base, that base level of the pyramid satisfied to become their best versions, just like you you described.
00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.400
So I think that's I think that's a great call out.
00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:05.440
Um I'll shift a little bit because I think um last time we forgot to get to Roy and Keely till the very end.
00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:06.559
Uh okay, good.
00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:08.880
You know, because it's very relationship-centered.
00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:15.599
But uh I I really liked Roy's captain speech.
00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:21.680
Um when he, you know, he's he's like, Aaron, you're a captain, right?
00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:26.240
I think I think it played very well in the show, right?
00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:35.359
Because Keely told Roy that he needs to see other people uh for who they are, and and people need to be able to see him.
00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:38.799
And it and that scene captured all of that, right?
00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.599
He saw who Aaron was, right?
00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:49.440
You know, you know, making sure everyone's heading towards the same goal, standing up for what's right, put the well-being of others before yourself.
00:20:49.680 --> 00:21:03.680
Basically, she was a captain, and it it demonstrated that that he saw that, and then she comes back and tells him, right, that you're so worthy of being with the person that you love, right?
00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:17.119
So it was obvious that that she saw him, but um, I just think in general, those three tenants that we talked that Roy mentioned is great leadership language.
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:20.640
And I I think we saw Erin demonstrate it, right?
00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:22.400
She cares about Roy, right?
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.960
Which means that she she needs to leave him.
00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:27.680
You know, she's not doing what's good for herself, right?
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.480
Although she kind of is because she doesn't want to get heartbroken.
00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:30.880
Yeah, it hurts.
00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.079
She's doing what she believes is right for both of them.
00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:38.960
Um, and it's just more Roy can't love, you know, can't get enough Roy.
00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:49.200
I uh I wrote down Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek, is sort of aligned with that theme if folks like leadership books to go along with it.
00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:50.160
Yep.
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:51.759
What else you got?
00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:59.599
Uh well the whole idea of yes and is really I mean, they made it very clear how it.
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.039
To leadership principle, there is a book called Yes and.
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:04.880
I have not read that one yet.
00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:06.160
That is on the list.
00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:09.759
Uh, so I'm gonna have I'm gonna check that one out.
00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.039
But I feel like it's one of those things, like, oh yeah, you get it.
00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:18.640
If you've done it, if you understand the improv uh notion of yes and.
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:27.359
And I remember uh when my son was a toddler reading something about yes and and parenting.
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:32.079
And my daughter recently called me out on that strategy.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:44.480
She's now 25, but she recognizes like, oh yeah, mom will go along with it, but she's gonna get what she wants out of it using yes and so we have some parents of toddlers listening.
00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:45.920
It's a good strategy.
00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.200
I mean, basically, yes is acceptance, right?
00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:50.640
And is contribution.
00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.319
I love Ted's story, right?
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.960
You know, yes opens up the door, right?
00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:57.119
But and allows people to walk through it.
00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:05.759
And and it it's it's funny when um you know, when uh Alice first notices it, right?
00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:26.559
She said, you know, they asked for a water break, and yeah, uh, and the last five, you know, coming back or running sprints, and you see them running right out the door, and she she gets immediate um feedback that this is working, and we later see that with Shannon as well.
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:43.119
And um, it it's gonna open the door for I think what we've been talking about in predictions for a while, which is Shannon is going to become uh there's something about Shannon that's going to be very important to this season for sure.
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:50.319
Um so it's you said feedback.
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:51.359
That was the other piece.
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:58.000
One of the part important elements of leadership is that you give clear and immediate feedback.
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:00.240
And Alice did that, right?
00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:04.240
She got the immediate feedback and she gave the immediate feedback.
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:24.160
And I've never really thought about the yes and in terms of feedback, but I was talking to some teachers this weekend, and one of them was talking about how when they've been observed, they really appreciated the person that went and said, What is it that you are hoping to learn?
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.200
And how can I be helpful when I observe?
00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.119
So it was the yes and.
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:40.480
It was not saying, I'm gonna come in and trap you or trick you or surprise you, but I already know as a professional, you're trying to be better.
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.559
Where are you trying to be better and how can I help?
00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:50.240
And they thought that was a very supportive way and listened to more feedback because it felt like a yes and instead of a no but.
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:51.519
Yep.
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.359
Yep, love it.
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.519
And I'm so a lot of that was focused on Alice.
00:24:57.680 --> 00:25:06.960
Uh and I'm gonna say, you, we've we've been talking about the last couple of weeks, Alice being very similar to Nate.
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:13.039
And, you know, the the whole notion that Ted is is going to treat this differently.
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.920
But I have to say, just as a fan of the show, Alice is becoming one of my favorite characters.
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:19.680
I I think she's funny.
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:24.559
Uh, I think her arc is fascinating, um, of course, right?
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.279
She's trying, and that's that's important.
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:32.880
But initially, what she's she's doing with what people often do after getting difficult feedback.
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.039
I think she's over-correcting.
00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:42.720
And um, you know, obviously with the yes to everything, uh, which was hilarious, the way it played out in the show.
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:54.079
But Ted comes in, and again, I think in season one of the show, he would have just let Nate kind of go on with the overcorrection.
00:25:54.319 --> 00:26:00.000
Um, but he listens, he accepts, and and he coaches again.
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:08.240
And I think that's um I think that's that's an important uh progression for Ted.
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:20.000
Uh, and I can't wait to see kind of where where Alice goes because it's it's clear now, uh, just like we thought, that I think she's going to have a very different arc than than Nate did.
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:30.720
Well, speaking of callbacks and Nate, when Carolyn, the physical trainer, the trainer, came in and went to sit on the like, oh, look, the three of us in the office.
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.440
And she went to sit on the same place where Nate would sit as a diamond dog.
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.880
And Roy's like, you can you can go.
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:43.200
I felt like that was a uh a little callback to Nate, also.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:45.119
Absolutely.
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:46.799
What else do you got?
00:26:47.200 --> 00:27:02.880
The only other uh thing that I had aside from prediction is um when Ted was being loquacious, extra wordy during his banter, and he said he would have to think about it so he could write a shorter letter.
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:17.440
And, you know, I've always liked that quote of that, you know, it takes a long, if I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter uh to really think about what you mean, uh, to get it concise as opposed to just babble, I could work on that myself.
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:25.359
So um I kind of along those lines, um, because that was uh Keely and Ted, right?
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:31.920
And I think Keely had a great line, and it kind of relates back to the first thing that we talked about.
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.839
Uh, you know, loving yourself isn't the same as bragging about yourself.
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.279
Again, Keely, always wise, always wise.
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.799
Um, and then Ted, of course, encourages her, right?
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.079
And we talked about this, you know, keep your head up and your heart open.
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:53.920
Uh, really nice moment, funny moment as they're filling out the form, you know, Ted's responses to Oh, we're fantastic.
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:54.400
Yeah.
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:55.039
Yeah.
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:56.400
They absolutely were.
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:01.200
So I've waited this entire episode to get your take on the chair.
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.359
Um, so I want to hear it.
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.119
You ready for the predictions?
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.680
I am ready for predictions, absolutely.
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.480
Okay, so Charlotte's Webb.
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.440
I think there are a couple of things in here.
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:22.799
So, Charlotte's Webb, first, you know, there were they the Arch showed you that there was a connection with the sign above, right?
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:37.920
But what Charlotte is doing um is preparing for when she's not there and making sure everyone will be prepared.
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:50.079
And so, you know, it's about friendship, but I am wondering if this is Ted preparing for when he is not there or becomes the assistant manager.
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:54.880
So I think the chair again is Alice is going to be the manager.
00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:00.240
So I that's I or is it preparing for when Roy is not there?
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:06.079
Is it a double, you know, is that a setup that he's not gonna get the contract?
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:12.559
Um, but I think that's you know, that's the story of Charlotte's Webb.
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:21.920
Uh, and I do think the element of caring that beard, like friends that care for you, uh, that is a piece of it as well.
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.599
But I think it's sort of a preparation for somebody not being there.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.319
What do you think?
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:26.960
Okay.
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:38.240
Uh I I tend to think that as we've talked about in previous episodes, uh, although I hate it, I I I tend to think that Roy's gonna leave after this season.
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:43.920
Um I yeah, I don't know if that relates to the chair.
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.319
I like where you're going with the chair, um, but I'm curious to find out that darn chair.
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:58.240
Um I'll go with something a little bit different, uh, just because I've seen all the hate on social about Tracy Ullman's character, Zelda.
00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:20.799
And I think I think I think with this episode, I have, I believe we've found the purpose for Zelda, uh, which is that uh she is going to be the new person that Rebecca is actually it's gonna be the new Keely for Rebecca.
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:28.880
Um I think I think you know uh Zelda has this disdain for men, right?
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:38.240
She she took a very skeptical uh take on on the scorpion and the frog, yeah, um relating it to men.
00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.640
Um and Rebecca has seen that, right?
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.720
And she's lived that.
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:49.440
And I think she is now going to help transform Zelda.
00:30:49.519 --> 00:31:11.119
And I think by the end of next season or the season after that, because I'm hopeful that we're gonna have a couple more seasons, I think we are going to see a completely different Zelda with with Rebecca really being the mentoring her through um a character arc.
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.200
Oh, interesting.
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:19.839
That would be an arc for Tracy Ullman, who I feel like typically does all of these odd little Yes.
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.559
I believe we're going to start to like Zelda quite a bit, is my guess.
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:33.599
Wouldn't that be a nice switch to go do the opposite of where we were saying it was the Rupert replacement and sort of with the mm, okay.
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:35.359
I didn't see that one coming.
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:35.839
Yeah.
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:40.079
Now you're gonna have to remember this one because I think this is gonna take a long time to play out.
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.680
Uh just let's play.
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:43.680
It's it's gonna happen.
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:45.920
Got any other predictions?
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:54.000
Well, I I do think Roy's, you know, that I think his contract will become a big when we said that before.
00:31:54.160 --> 00:32:01.440
I didn't have any other I don't the the big one was just I felt a little impending something with Charlotte's Webb.
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:02.880
Yeah, okay.
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:10.480
Yeah, I think that do you think uh do you think Ted is going to have a date?
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:17.440
Is his next date gonna be with the stage manager who we don't know the name of yet, or is it gonna be with somebody else?
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.000
That is a great question.
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.359
It and so she could find him.
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:27.440
Uh you know, because she knows his name, where he works.
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.799
I don't know that he'll come whistling in for a third time.
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.359
Uh so I do think, I think the stage manager, I'm gonna go stage manager.
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:37.920
How about you?
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:38.559
Okay.
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.359
I'm gonna go with Claudine from last week, the one who shot down Beard.
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.079
That's that's what I'm gonna go with.
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.319
I don't think that's gonna be, I think he's ultimately gonna end up with the stage manager.
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:57.680
But he's gonna have a date with I think that's gonna cause potentially a little friction between him and Beard.
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:03.359
Uh, but I think because we know that Claudine's coming back.
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.079
We we don't know much more than that.
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:13.839
We know that she's coming back because she's listed as one of the one of the repeating characters in Michigan.
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:15.920
Oh, stop, all right.
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:17.279
I didn't pay attention to that.
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:25.279
The interesting piece would be, you know, people always think that uh, like that we know the guy that built MASH.com, right?
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.519
That that matches matches aren't identical, they're complementary in some way.
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:38.079
And Ted gets along with Beard so well, and Claudine, I think, found herself to be like Beard that it wouldn't surprise me if Banter did pop those two together.
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.519
So that's interesting.
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:41.839
Yeah, so you think he's going back to Banter?
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.759
That's a prediction in and of itself.
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.039
Oh, uh I I think uh oh, I forgot he did delete it.
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.519
Well, I'll say, I'll say yes.
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.039
That was an accidental prediction.
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.279
I wasn't that wasn't necessarily well thought out, but I'll go ahead and stick that out there.
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:58.000
Okay.
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.119
Well, your accidental predictions usually come true.
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.079
So I think we might see it.
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.079
So we'll end there.
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.039
Uh as Roy would say, whistle whistle.
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:17.599
Uh and as somebody said last week, they when they were talking about Roy, they didn't, when they were describing, you know, he's allergic to his medical conditions.
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:24.559
Yeah, he didn't, he they didn't mention his metal uh allergic reaction to metals, right?
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.920
But but anyway, we'll steal his whistle whistle and game's over.
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.400
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00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.880
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00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.000
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00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:45.440
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