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Kidversations, small voices, big stories. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Kidversations.
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Today's guest is the guy who's usually behind the camera,
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filming and telling amazing stories through pictures and videos. That's right,
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he's a photographer, n a filmmaker who helps bring cool
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projects to life, including this show. Let's welcome Wallace Mora. Hi, Wallace,
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We're so happy to have you on our podcast.
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I'm very happy to be in the podcast too.
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Can we learn a little bit more about you?
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I guess so. I'm afraid.
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So how are you afraid?
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So? Because I hate you being fond of cameras.
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Oh that makes sense. Why you're behind camera?
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I know, right, I never expect to be here.
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How did you first get interested in filmmaking?
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Well, I studied with photography first. I did not do
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any movies before. So when I was thirteen years old,
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my father gave me a camera and I fell in
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love with taking pictures and I took pictures only until
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twenty seventeen. Then that's when I started making videos as well.
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What special occasion did you get your camera for.
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I don't remember, but I think it probably was my
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birthday and my father's the one that gave it to
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me in the It was a Russian camera, by the way,
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where it was really really nice by that time. I
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mean it was not a digital camera. I bet if
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I show you the camera now, you won't even know
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how to work.
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What was your first video or photo you ever took?
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Well, photo, I have no clue. I was thirteen when
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I got the camera. Probably animals. I love animals. I
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love taking picture of nature. But the video, the first
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one was about Paulinis Corcella. She was a missionary in
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Brazil for fifty three years, but she was born in
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Bristol in nineteen thirty two, so I made a documentary
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about her, and that was the first video I ever made.
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What kind of camera do you use.
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Now? I use Sony cameras, so it's one camera is
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good for pictures and video in the other camera is
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just more of a cinema camera because I make movies now.
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But the camera that I got first was a Zenith eleventh.
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It's a Russian camera, so it still uses film, so
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you probably never seen. But instead of putting memory cards
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in the camera, we buy a little roll, which is
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a film. It's like a little strip, like super long,
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but it's roll up inside, so we open the camera,
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put that thing there, twist the camera, and then you
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load that film. And you had only twelve or twenty
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two clicks with one film. Yeah. Now it's much easier
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and cheaper because it used to be very expensive to
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take one picture that time. Each picture is expensive. Now
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you can just use memory cards and you can shoot
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as many as many photos as you want to.
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I have a camera and it only fits ten clicks,
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and it said it's like fifty dollars to get them.
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Oh, so you do have one of those film cameras.
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Then you cannot see the result picture as soon as
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a click, right, you have to send the film somewhere
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so it's developed.
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Well, it like kind of rolls and then comes out.
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Yeah, and the bad thing is you cannot see how
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the picture came out until it comes back to you
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by mail. Yeah. Yes, so you click today and you
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would have to wait about about two weeks so you
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can see the picture that you took.
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I didn't know that. That's crazy.
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Yeah, I know, tough times.
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What is the coolest thing you took a picture of?
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The coolest thing I took a picture of I think
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it was the eye of an ant. Yeah, so I
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use a special lends and you have to put the
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camera close to the end and the it's kind of
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a magnifier. So actually it was interesting to see how
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many little dogs there are in the eye of an net.
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So that was the coolest one. I guess what was.
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The first movie of films?
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The first movie? It was the documentary you know, if
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you consider they're a movie. But after that, I made
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a little short film that it's about bullying and autism.
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It's called Overcoming and it's available on Amazon Prime.
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Do you like taking pictures or videos better?
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Very hard question, I think, Oh wow, I like both.
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I used to do those pictures, so as soon as
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I start making movies, I really felin in love. It's different.
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So I would say I like more, but I also
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miss taking pictures. I like taking pictures a lot, so
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I guess I like both.
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The same is pictures or videos harder?
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I think videos are harder because you need you need
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to do the image well, just like the pictures, but
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also you need to worry about moving the camera, so
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you have all those camera moves, and then you have
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to worry about sounds because a video with a bad
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sound is terrible. So yeah, I think video is harder
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because you have to pay attention to a lot more
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stuff than just pictures.
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Is there any tricks to learn how to take a
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good photo?
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Yes, I'd say there's a lot of online courses that
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you can look at it and it's free nowadays, so
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you find a lot of stuff. But I think looking
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at the pictures and see why you like those pictures,
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you question yourself, why do I like it? You know?
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Or what's wrong with this picture? So when you ask
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yourself those questions, then you start evaluating and you find
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your own taste for the picture. Because some people like
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more brighter colors, some people like more black and white,
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so you have to put your own feelings there too.
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of hints and information or somebody teaching you, then it's
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gonna be quicker for you to learn and easier.
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Did you get any hints or anything from someone?
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Yes, at that time, we did not have internets. Okay,
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I am Jurassic, I'm old, so at that time we
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didn't have internets. So I did make a photography course,
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but the course was actually male to me, so it
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was like the books were mal to me. So I
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had to do all those stashes and send them the
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results by mail and they would send back to me
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and all that. But yeah, now it's easier. Now you
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can go online and start your course.
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Right then, what is the hardest part of taking videos?
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The hardest part of taking videos is lighting, because a
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lot of people they believe the camera is the most
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important part of having a nice video, and it's not
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the camera, it's actually lights. And if you don't have
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a good lighting, there is no way you're going to
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have a good video. And lighting is something a little
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bit more more complicated than just operating a camera.
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Did you get better tastes the more you've done filmmaking?
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Oh? Yes, when I look behind and I look the
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first film, like you asked me, what was my first film?
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At that time, I felt proud for what I did.
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But now I look back and asay, oh, my goodness,
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I could have made so much better. So yeah, the
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more you practice, the better you get, and you improve
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and it becomes easier and you can reach closer to
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what you have in your mind. Then you can reach
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that saying feeling that you want to put in the video.
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What is your favorite kind of photo.
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My favorite kind of photo is wild animals. I like wildlife.
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That's the best thing. So I do go hiking with
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a group sometimes Still's Creak Park and I like to
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stop and look around and take pictures and even taking
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pictures of insects. I mean, you can do very nice pictures,
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just little animals or mushrooms. You know, there's a lot
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of tiny things around you that you can make nice pictures.
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Have you ever been in any filming contest?
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Yes, I've been in a couple of film contests. One
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is for the City of Bristol. They it's used to
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make a video to promote the city so young people
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could come here for the weekend and enjoy the city.
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And we made a video that explores the fact that
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the city of Bristol is within two different states. And
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it was a comic video and there was two different categories,
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and that video one one of the categories in the Yeah,
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and I participate on those contests that you have like
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only two days to make a movie and you don't
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know nothing about what you're going to have to do,
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and they give you the rules and they tell you
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what the movie needs to be about, and then you
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have only two days to make it happen, so I
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participate in those two it's fun. It's a lot of stress,
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but it's fun.
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Do you get nervous showing your work to other people?
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Not really. I don't get nervous because I'm always open
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for critiques, and I think that's how we learn the best,
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because sometimes I don't see a mistake that I made
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and somebody goes and point, oh look, I think of
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a here, you made a mistake. Then I can learn
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how to avoid that mistake to happen again. And I
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actually I like even better when someone points something some
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mistake that I made, because then I can learn from
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what I did. Then people who look and say, wow,
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that's such a nice work, but they don't point mistakes,
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and then I don't learn and I can't improve. Yeah.
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I like when people like my work, but it doesn't
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bother me when someone points some mistakes that I made,
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because that's the way I can learn more and do
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better next time.
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How do you stay creative when you're tired?
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Oh it's hard, and that's one thing. I don't like
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to film events, for example, because you have to do
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that specific day and sometimes you know in a good mood,
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you know, and when you're making a movie, you still
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have dates. You still have to set dates up, but
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I think you have a chance to be more creative
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and even take breaks, and you can redo something that
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didn't go well. You can just go ahead and do
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it again. Events make me nervous, like weddings make me
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super nervous. You film weddings because can you imagine if
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you make a mistake in somebody weddings somebody video for
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a wedding, that's a bad mistake. You don't want to
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do that. So they make me very nervous.
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How do you make scenes look exciting or emotional?
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I think to make a scene exciting, it needs to
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be more than just dialogues. You know, there's a lot
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of movies that there is a lot of dialogue involved
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and nothing happens, you know, it's just conversations, So it
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gets boring in my opinion. And as far as being emotional,
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when you're dealing with something that happened in your everyday life,
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you know, doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.
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It can be just memories, or it can even be
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something that it's so good that makes you cry. But
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when it's based on something that brings some kind of
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message back to you, you know, and they kind of
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make you think, make you wonder about what you're seeing.
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Then that's when they can get very emotional.
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When you get invited from someone, Do you sometimes think
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it's like a bad choice and you don't use that advice?
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No, I always consider it and I always thank someone
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who gives me any kind of advice. But sometimes I
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disagree and it's okay. You know, nobody needs to be
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right or wrong all the time, you know, so sometimes yeah,
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I see they're right, I made a mistake. It could
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be better. Or sometimes I say, okay, I just think different.
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You know, it's a I have a different taste, I
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have a different vision of what you said, and not
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necessarily I'm going to have to follow your advice, you know,
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if I disagree with it.
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Do some people point out the same mistakes twice?
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If that happens, then you better pay attention to what
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they're saying, right. Yeah. If somebody points something and you
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disagree and you don't see what's wrong there, but somebody
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else comes and tell you the same thing, you better
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stop and see what's really wrong about it. If more
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than one person sees it, and if you don't, then
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maybe you are just missing an opportunity to fix something
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and do better next time, and you're gonna keep on
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doing the same mistake if you don't look at it.
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Are all the songs? Real?
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Sounds in movies are usually not real. Have you watched
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a movie called A Quiet Place? No, it's actually a
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horror movie. And there are those creatures that they can
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see you, but they can only hear sounds, and if
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you make any sound, it's gonna attrack them. And they
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had their own way of communicating through their own sounds,
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which were clicking sounds. And those sounds were made with
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a taser on grapes. Yeah, and when you see people
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fighting and you hear those bones cracking, it's actually that
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they break and make that sound. Yeah. So those songs
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are made in a lab and the you know, it's
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like a studio for those type of sounds. And it's
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called Polly because who created that technique was a man
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whose name was Polly. So they baptized the technique as Folly.
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And I love that. You know footsteps, you don't you
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don't put microphones on the body's foot there. You know
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that somebody's walking, but then you hear those footsteps in
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a museum, and then it is a microphone and somebody
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is walking, but it's on the studio. So they watch
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the video and see, you know what speed the person's walking,
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and they do the same thing. And if it's some snow,
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for example, they put a little box with sands like
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play sand, and they walk on the sand and it
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makes the same crunchy sound as you're walking on the snow. Yeah,
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it's a fake, sorry, but I love that.
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When people are like singing on a movie, are they
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are all of them actually singing or are they like
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mouthing it?
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same person singing, but usually it's gonna be recording on studios,
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so the the voice is more clear, it's more control environment,
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so you don't have a lot of other noises, so
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you get a better voice, you know, in a in
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a music studio. But also sometimes it's not even the
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same person. Yeah, you know the the Great show Man. Yeah, yeah,
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and you have that super nice song, right, how is
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it you know how to sing? You know, it's like
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all the shine of a thousand spotlights, right, all the
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stars you Steve, It's a complete different woman that sings
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that song. It's not even that woman from the movie. Yeah,
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so she's just mounting it.
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What do you do on a typical film there?
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work in different roles. If I'm working in my own production,
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usually I know I have to have an eye on everything,
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like directing everything. But if I am working for somebody else,
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sometimes I'm just focusing on sounds, and sometimes I'm just
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working on lights for that film, or sometimes I'm just
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helping with everything they need. So it really depends on
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the production.
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What's your favorite memory from behind the scene.
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I think my favorite memory from behind the scene is
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when I was actually making it documentary about the mission
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area told you about Pauline in Brazil, and I met
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so many people and that became friends and they were
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telling their story in the personal stories in the Some
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were happy, some were said. So. I think the best
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memory on filmmaking is making friends over there. During the
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documentary I made.
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What's your funniest thing that ever happened behind the scene?
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The funniest thing that happened behind this scene? I think
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it was a recent short film that I made in
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South Carolina, and there is this boy that he was
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kidnapped from a different time. And you know, he was
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running from a car in one scene, so he had
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to run because you got a few different angles so
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many times, so you have to run one time. Let's
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do it again. All the camera goes from behind the car.
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Let's do it again. All the camera goes from the
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front of the car. Let's do it again. Now we
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want to have you side by side, you know. So
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he had to run so many times that he was
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super tired. And then that night we were sleeping in
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the same living room. I was in one couch, he
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wasn't another couch. And I woke up in the middle
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of the night and it was completely dark, and he
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was standing in the living room and he was saying hello, Hello,
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And I said, London, what you doing? And he trained
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and said what happened? He had no clue where he was.
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He was so tired that he woke up and he
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had no clue where he was at. So that was
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really funny.
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How many people does it take to make a good film?
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It takes a lot of money to make a good film.
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Some films they will cost you a million dollars at
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least some films will cost you twenty million dollars. But
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you can make a film costing you almost nothing. You know,
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so you still can make a good film with little
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money if you have volunteers. The point is when you
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make a film and it's just you and you have
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to do everything. You have to do camera, you have
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to do lighting, you have to do sound, you can't
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do everything right because there's so much going on at
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the same time. So if you have a little group
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that you can share the functions and one can can
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concentrate just on sound, one concentrate just on guiding the actors,
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the other one can concentrate just on lighting the scenes,
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the other one concentrates on the camera. So if you
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can divide the functions, so that's going to reflect on
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the movie quality. But to make a feature film, which
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is a film that has at least an hour and
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a half, I dare say you have to have at
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least study people working on it.
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Do you prefer filming or directing?
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I prefer directing it because that way I can guarantee
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that my vision is going to be on the screen,
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and I can look around and see if everything is
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doing being done right. So if I am actually filming,
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that means if I am holding the camera, and what
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about operating a camera, moving a camera, I can't take
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a look at what's going on around me. And sometimes
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I don't see mistakes that I would see if I
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wasn't busy doing the camera work. So if it's my
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own production, I prefer to be directing, make sure that
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things come my way.
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Do you act too?
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I had Unfortunately I had to act a few times
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because we just didn't have enough actors for that scene.
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What we call actors. Sometimes the actor just misses the
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day and you know, and you can't stop. So unfortunately
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I had to act as a policeman in a one film,
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I had to work as a prisoner in the Bristol jail.
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I had to literally be inside the cell in Bristol
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Jail for another movie. And I had to be one
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of those rescuers in an ambulance, one of the doctors. Yeah,
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so unfortunately, sometimes I have to be in front of
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the camera. I don't like it.
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What advice would you give kids if they wanted to
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do filmmaking.
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If they want to act, or if they want to
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work behind the cameras, you know, in the crew. The
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best way to learn is for you to practice. So
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my device is get involved with some small local productions.
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You know, even if you volunteer, since you don't have experience,
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you can go in volunteer and you learn from practicing.
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So you can learn with small roles acting, or you
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can learn behind the scenes just as a helper. No
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general helper behind the scenes. But then you're gonna be
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looking around. You're gonna learn from other people, and you're
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gonna learn that way. It's quicker, it's more efficient, and
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it's cheaper than going to a film school. There are
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film schools, like film college, but they're very expensive and
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you're not gonna learn anything. There is special that you
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can't learn on a film set for real.
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Can anyone filmmake?
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Yes, anyone can. But if you're gonna be good or not,
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it depends on how much passion you have for it.
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You can only be good if you're doing something that
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you like. If you don't like it, I mean, it's
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like which not necessarily true. Because I like the guitar
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and I really wanted to play the guitar, and I
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tried three times until I realized God did not give
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me that gift. There's no way I'm gonna play the guitar,
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although I love the guitar. So yeah, I think you
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have to be gifted and you have to like it
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to be good.
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Is there anything else you would like to do.
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I would like to travel to explore some places that
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I always wanted to, like Galapagos. So have you heard
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the Galapagos. It's an island and it's very isolated, and
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the animals there are there you don't find anywhere else
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in the world. They're very, very different animals. There is
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a there is an iguana, a lizard that actually it
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It dives in the ocean and eats the grass that
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grows in the bottom of the ocean there. So yeah,
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you have very different animals there. I would love to
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visit places like this Australia too. There's a lot of animals,
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but they're mostly dangerous, so I don't I'm not sure
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if I would like to go there.
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What is your dream project?
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I think right now my dream project is a movie
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called Elie's Eyes and it's a drama movie that I
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really want to make, and it's it's about human trafficking
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and abuse. So it's a sad film, but it's a
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reality that people need to be aware of. And it's
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the film talks about the life of a girl called Alice.
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So that's a very very nice project that I wrote
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that I would like to do.
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How did Conversations get started?
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Once I studied my own podcast, you know, a few
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years ago, and I had a friend that was helping me,
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and just one month after I studied the podcast, he
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passed away. He died, So I didn't want to continue
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it by myself, so I stopped that project. So I
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was actually I always wanted to restart, but I couldn't
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do by myself. So I said, okay, so what if
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I'm just behind the cameras and we can make some
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some podcasts happen. And then I remember one show that
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I used to watch before where kids would interview people
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that were very unique, either by their jobs or buy
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some medical condition, and I said, oh, that would be
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nice that kids would run podcasts. So I start idealizing Kidversation,
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and I think people are.
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Liking what do you hope for the future of our show?
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More than anything, and that's naturally going to happen is
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the more you and Charlotte and all the other kids
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there are now participating on the Showy, as you all
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learn a little bit more and feel more comfortable, I
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guess you're all going to start having more fun doing it.
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And that's my best expectation for the show is that
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you all had fun doing it. You know, I know
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you both like it, but it's still a little hard
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for everybody because we're not used to this. You know,
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it's new, and as that happens, people are going to
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like no more because they're going to see that we're
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having fun.
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Do you have a message to people watching?
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I would like everybody to get involved, you know, to
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get involved on our films. No, we have we create
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a little film club. That way people who want to
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learn filmmaking. You know, they'll be acting or they'll be
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helping behind the cameras and learn together hands on. So
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you know, if you want to participate on there, you
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can contact Three Fight three studios or people get involved
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with our podcast, you know, just send us questions or
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suggest whatever guests you think the kids should be inviting
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here to this table.
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Well, thank you for being here and showing us what
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it's like to see the world through a camera.
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Lens.
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Yes, thank you for coming here on this side of
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the table and not over there running the cameras.
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Yeah, I cannot say it was a pleasure, but you know,
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to being from the camera, which I hate, but it's
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a pleasure to be here with you all. Oh Darie,
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I know right. Have fine.
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There we go, and to everyone watching, thanks for joining
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us and we'll see you next time on Kidversations.
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Bye bye.
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Kidversations. Small voices, big stories.
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Kidversations, small voices, big stories. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Kidversations.
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Today's guest is the guy who's usually behind the camera,
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filming and telling amazing stories through pictures and videos. That's right,
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he's a photographer, n a filmmaker who helps bring cool
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projects to life, including this show. Let's welcome Wallace Mora. Hi, Wallace,
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We're so happy to have you on our podcast.
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I'm very happy to be in the podcast too.
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Can we learn a little bit more about you?
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I guess so. I'm afraid.
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So how are you afraid?
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So? Because I hate you being fond of cameras.
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Oh that makes sense. Why you're behind camera?
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I know, right, I never expect to be here.
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How did you first get interested in filmmaking?
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Well, I studied with photography first. I did not do
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any movies before. So when I was thirteen years old,
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my father gave me a camera and I fell in
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love with taking pictures and I took pictures only until
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twenty seventeen. Then that's when I started making videos as well.
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What special occasion did you get your camera for.
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I don't remember, but I think it probably was my
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birthday and my father's the one that gave it to
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me in the It was a Russian camera, by the way,
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where it was really really nice by that time. I
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mean it was not a digital camera. I bet if
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I show you the camera now, you won't even know
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What was your first video or photo you ever took?
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I got the camera. Probably animals. I love animals. I
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love taking picture of nature. But the video, the first
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one was about Paulinis Corcella. She was a missionary in
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Brazil for fifty three years, but she was born in
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Bristol in nineteen thirty two, so I made a documentary
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about her, and that was the first video I ever made.
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What kind of camera do you use.
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Now? I use Sony cameras, so it's one camera is
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good for pictures and video in the other camera is
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just more of a cinema camera because I make movies now.
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you probably never seen. But instead of putting memory cards
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in the camera, we buy a little roll, which is
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a film. It's like a little strip, like super long,
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but it's roll up inside, so we open the camera,
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put that thing there, twist the camera, and then you
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load that film. And you had only twelve or twenty
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two clicks with one film. Yeah. Now it's much easier
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and cheaper because it used to be very expensive to
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take one picture that time. Each picture is expensive. Now
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you can just use memory cards and you can shoot
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as many as many photos as you want to.
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I have a camera and it only fits ten clicks,
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and it said it's like fifty dollars to get them.
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Then you cannot see the result picture as soon as
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a click, right, you have to send the film somewhere
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so it's developed.
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Yeah, and the bad thing is you cannot see how
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the picture came out until it comes back to you
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by mail. Yeah. Yes, so you click today and you
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would have to wait about about two weeks so you
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can see the picture that you took.
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I didn't know that. That's crazy.
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What is the coolest thing you took a picture of?
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The coolest thing I took a picture of I think
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it was the eye of an ant. Yeah, so I
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use a special lends and you have to put the
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camera close to the end and the it's kind of
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a magnifier. So actually it was interesting to see how
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many little dogs there are in the eye of an net.
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The first movie of films?
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The first movie? It was the documentary you know, if
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you consider they're a movie. But after that, I made
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a little short film that it's about bullying and autism.
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It's called Overcoming and it's available on Amazon Prime.
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Do you like taking pictures or videos better?
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Very hard question, I think, Oh wow, I like both.
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I start making movies, I really felin in love. It's different.
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miss taking pictures. I like taking pictures a lot, so
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The same is pictures or videos harder?
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I think videos are harder because you need you need
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to do the image well, just like the pictures, but
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also you need to worry about moving the camera, so
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you have all those camera moves, and then you have
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to worry about sounds because a video with a bad
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sound is terrible. So yeah, I think video is harder
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because you have to pay attention to a lot more
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stuff than just pictures.
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Is there any tricks to learn how to take a
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good photo?
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you can look at it and it's free nowadays, so
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you find a lot of stuff. But I think looking
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at the pictures and see why you like those pictures,
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you question yourself, why do I like it? You know?
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yourself those questions, then you start evaluating and you find
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your own taste for the picture. Because some people like
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more brighter colors, some people like more black and white,
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so you have to put your own feelings there too.
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of hints and information or somebody teaching you, then it's
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gonna be quicker for you to learn and easier.
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Did you get any hints or anything from someone?
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Yes, at that time, we did not have internets. Okay,
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didn't have internets. So I did make a photography course,
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but the course was actually male to me, so it
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was like the books were mal to me. So I
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had to do all those stashes and send them the
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results by mail and they would send back to me
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and all that. But yeah, now it's easier. Now you
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can go online and start your course.
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Right then, what is the hardest part of taking videos?
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The hardest part of taking videos is lighting, because a
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lot of people they believe the camera is the most
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important part of having a nice video, and it's not
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the camera, it's actually lights. And if you don't have
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a good lighting, there is no way you're going to
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have a good video. And lighting is something a little
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bit more more complicated than just operating a camera.
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Did you get better tastes the more you've done filmmaking?
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Oh? Yes, when I look behind and I look the
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first film, like you asked me, what was my first film?
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I could have made so much better. So yeah, the
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more you practice, the better you get, and you improve
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and it becomes easier and you can reach closer to
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what you have in your mind. Then you can reach
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that saying feeling that you want to put in the video.
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What is your favorite kind of photo.
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a group sometimes Still's Creak Park and I like to
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stop and look around and take pictures and even taking
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pictures of insects. I mean, you can do very nice pictures,
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just little animals or mushrooms. You know, there's a lot
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of tiny things around you that you can make nice pictures.
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Have you ever been in any filming contest?
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is for the City of Bristol. They it's used to
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make a video to promote the city so young people
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could come here for the weekend and enjoy the city.
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the city of Bristol is within two different states. And
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it was a comic video and there was two different categories,
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and that video one one of the categories in the Yeah,
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and I participate on those contests that you have like
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only two days to make a movie and you don't
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know nothing about what you're going to have to do,
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and they give you the rules and they tell you
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what the movie needs to be about, and then you
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have only two days to make it happen, so I
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participate in those two it's fun. It's a lot of stress,
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but it's fun.
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Do you get nervous showing your work to other people?
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for critiques, and I think that's how we learn the best,
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because sometimes I don't see a mistake that I made
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and somebody goes and point, oh look, I think of
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a here, you made a mistake. Then I can learn
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how to avoid that mistake to happen again. And I
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actually I like even better when someone points something some
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mistake that I made, because then I can learn from
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what I did. Then people who look and say, wow,
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that's such a nice work, but they don't point mistakes,
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and then I don't learn and I can't improve. Yeah.
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I like when people like my work, but it doesn't
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bother me when someone points some mistakes that I made,
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because that's the way I can learn more and do
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better next time.
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How do you stay creative when you're tired?
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to film events, for example, because you have to do
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that specific day and sometimes you know in a good mood,
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you know, and when you're making a movie, you still
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have dates. You still have to set dates up, but
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and even take breaks, and you can redo something that
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didn't go well. You can just go ahead and do
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it again. Events make me nervous, like weddings make me
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super nervous. You film weddings because can you imagine if
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you make a mistake in somebody weddings somebody video for
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a wedding, that's a bad mistake. You don't want to
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do that. So they make me very nervous.
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How do you make scenes look exciting or emotional?
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be more than just dialogues. You know, there's a lot
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of movies that there is a lot of dialogue involved
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and nothing happens, you know, it's just conversations, So it
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gets boring in my opinion. And as far as being emotional,
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when you're dealing with something that happened in your everyday life,
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you know, doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing.
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something that it's so good that makes you cry. But
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when it's based on something that brings some kind of
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message back to you, you know, and they kind of
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make you think, make you wonder about what you're seeing.
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When you get invited from someone, Do you sometimes think
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it's like a bad choice and you don't use that advice?
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who gives me any kind of advice. But sometimes I
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disagree and it's okay. You know, nobody needs to be
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right or wrong all the time, you know, so sometimes yeah,
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I see they're right, I made a mistake. It could
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be better. Or sometimes I say, okay, I just think different.
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You know, it's a I have a different taste, I
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have a different vision of what you said, and not
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necessarily I'm going to have to follow your advice, you know,
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if I disagree with it.
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Do some people point out the same mistakes twice?
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If that happens, then you better pay attention to what
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they're saying, right. Yeah. If somebody points something and you
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disagree and you don't see what's wrong there, but somebody
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else comes and tell you the same thing, you better
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stop and see what's really wrong about it. If more
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than one person sees it, and if you don't, then
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maybe you are just missing an opportunity to fix something
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and do better next time, and you're gonna keep on
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doing the same mistake if you don't look at it.
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Are all the songs? Real?
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a movie called A Quiet Place? No, it's actually a
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horror movie. And there are those creatures that they can
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see you, but they can only hear sounds, and if
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you make any sound, it's gonna attrack them. And they
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had their own way of communicating through their own sounds,
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which were clicking sounds. And those sounds were made with
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a taser on grapes. Yeah, and when you see people
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fighting and you hear those bones cracking, it's actually that
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they break and make that sound. Yeah. So those songs
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are made in a lab and the you know, it's
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like a studio for those type of sounds. And it's
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called Polly because who created that technique was a man
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whose name was Polly. So they baptized the technique as Folly.
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And I love that. You know footsteps, you don't you
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don't put microphones on the body's foot there. You know
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that somebody's walking, but then you hear those footsteps in
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a museum, and then it is a microphone and somebody
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is walking, but it's on the studio. So they watch
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the video and see, you know what speed the person's walking,
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and they do the same thing. And if it's some snow,
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for example, they put a little box with sands like
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play sand, and they walk on the sand and it
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makes the same crunchy sound as you're walking on the snow. Yeah,
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it's a fake, sorry, but I love that.
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are all of them actually singing or are they like
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mouthing it?
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same person singing, but usually it's gonna be recording on studios,
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so the the voice is more clear, it's more control environment,
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so you don't have a lot of other noises, so
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you get a better voice, you know, in a in
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a music studio. But also sometimes it's not even the
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same person. Yeah, you know the the Great show Man. Yeah, yeah,
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and you have that super nice song, right, how is
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it you know how to sing? You know, it's like
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all the shine of a thousand spotlights, right, all the
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stars you Steve, It's a complete different woman that sings
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that song. It's not even that woman from the movie. Yeah,
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so she's just mounting it.
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What do you do on a typical film there?
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It really depends on what we're gonna film, and I
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work in different roles. If I'm working in my own production,
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usually I know I have to have an eye on everything,
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like directing everything. But if I am working for somebody else,
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sometimes I'm just focusing on sounds, and sometimes I'm just
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working on lights for that film, or sometimes I'm just
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helping with everything they need. So it really depends on
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the production.
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What's your favorite memory from behind the scene.
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I think my favorite memory from behind the scene is
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when I was actually making it documentary about the mission
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area told you about Pauline in Brazil, and I met
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so many people and that became friends and they were
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telling their story in the personal stories in the Some
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were happy, some were said. So. I think the best
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memory on filmmaking is making friends over there. During the
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documentary I made.
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What's your funniest thing that ever happened behind the scene?
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The funniest thing that happened behind this scene? I think
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it was a recent short film that I made in
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South Carolina, and there is this boy that he was
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kidnapped from a different time. And you know, he was
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running from a car in one scene, so he had
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to run because you got a few different angles so
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many times, so you have to run one time. Let's
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do it again. All the camera goes from behind the car.
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Let's do it again. All the camera goes from the
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front of the car. Let's do it again. Now we
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want to have you side by side, you know. So
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he had to run so many times that he was
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super tired. And then that night we were sleeping in
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the same living room. I was in one couch, he
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wasn't another couch. And I woke up in the middle
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of the night and it was completely dark, and he
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was standing in the living room and he was saying hello, Hello,
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And I said, London, what you doing? And he trained
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and said what happened? He had no clue where he was.
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He was so tired that he woke up and he
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had no clue where he was at. So that was
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really funny.
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How many people does it take to make a good film?
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It takes a lot of money to make a good film.
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Some films they will cost you a million dollars at
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least some films will cost you twenty million dollars. But
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you can make a film costing you almost nothing. You know,
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so you still can make a good film with little
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money if you have volunteers. The point is when you
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make a film and it's just you and you have
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to do everything. You have to do camera, you have
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to do lighting, you have to do sound, you can't
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do everything right because there's so much going on at
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the same time. So if you have a little group
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that you can share the functions and one can can
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concentrate just on sound, one concentrate just on guiding the actors,
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the other one can concentrate just on lighting the scenes,
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the other one concentrates on the camera. So if you
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can divide the functions, so that's going to reflect on
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the movie quality. But to make a feature film, which
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is a film that has at least an hour and
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a half, I dare say you have to have at
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least study people working on it.
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Do you prefer filming or directing?
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I prefer directing it because that way I can guarantee
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that my vision is going to be on the screen,
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and I can look around and see if everything is
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doing being done right. So if I am actually filming,
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that means if I am holding the camera, and what
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about operating a camera, moving a camera, I can't take
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a look at what's going on around me. And sometimes
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I don't see mistakes that I would see if I
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wasn't busy doing the camera work. So if it's my
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own production, I prefer to be directing, make sure that
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things come my way.
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Do you act too?
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I had Unfortunately I had to act a few times
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because we just didn't have enough actors for that scene.
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What we call actors. Sometimes the actor just misses the
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day and you know, and you can't stop. So unfortunately
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I had to act as a policeman in a one film,
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I had to work as a prisoner in the Bristol jail.
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I had to literally be inside the cell in Bristol
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Jail for another movie. And I had to be one
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of those rescuers in an ambulance, one of the doctors. Yeah,
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so unfortunately, sometimes I have to be in front of
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the camera. I don't like it.
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What advice would you give kids if they wanted to
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do filmmaking.
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If they want to act, or if they want to
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work behind the cameras, you know, in the crew. The
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best way to learn is for you to practice. So
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my device is get involved with some small local productions.
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You know, even if you volunteer, since you don't have experience,
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you can go in volunteer and you learn from practicing.
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So you can learn with small roles acting, or you
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can learn behind the scenes just as a helper. No
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general helper behind the scenes. But then you're gonna be
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looking around. You're gonna learn from other people, and you're
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gonna learn that way. It's quicker, it's more efficient, and
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it's cheaper than going to a film school. There are
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film schools, like film college, but they're very expensive and
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you're not gonna learn anything. There is special that you
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can't learn on a film set for real.
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Can anyone filmmake?
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Yes, anyone can. But if you're gonna be good or not,
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it depends on how much passion you have for it.
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You can only be good if you're doing something that
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you like. If you don't like it, I mean, it's
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like which not necessarily true. Because I like the guitar
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and I really wanted to play the guitar, and I
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tried three times until I realized God did not give
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me that gift. There's no way I'm gonna play the guitar,
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although I love the guitar. So yeah, I think you
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have to be gifted and you have to like it
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to be good.
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Is there anything else you would like to do.
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I would like to travel to explore some places that
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I always wanted to, like Galapagos. So have you heard
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the Galapagos. It's an island and it's very isolated, and
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the animals there are there you don't find anywhere else
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in the world. They're very, very different animals. There is
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a there is an iguana, a lizard that actually it
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It dives in the ocean and eats the grass that
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grows in the bottom of the ocean there. So yeah,
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you have very different animals there. I would love to
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visit places like this Australia too. There's a lot of animals,
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but they're mostly dangerous, so I don't I'm not sure
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if I would like to go there.
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What is your dream project?
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I think right now my dream project is a movie
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called Elie's Eyes and it's a drama movie that I
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really want to make, and it's it's about human trafficking
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and abuse. So it's a sad film, but it's a
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reality that people need to be aware of. And it's
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the film talks about the life of a girl called Alice.
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So that's a very very nice project that I wrote
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that I would like to do.
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How did Conversations get started?
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Once I studied my own podcast, you know, a few
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years ago, and I had a friend that was helping me,
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and just one month after I studied the podcast, he
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passed away. He died, So I didn't want to continue
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it by myself, so I stopped that project. So I
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was actually I always wanted to restart, but I couldn't
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do by myself. So I said, okay, so what if
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I'm just behind the cameras and we can make some
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some podcasts happen. And then I remember one show that
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I used to watch before where kids would interview people
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that were very unique, either by their jobs or buy
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some medical condition, and I said, oh, that would be
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nice that kids would run podcasts. So I start idealizing Kidversation,
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and I think people are.
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Liking what do you hope for the future of our show?
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More than anything, and that's naturally going to happen is
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the more you and Charlotte and all the other kids
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there are now participating on the Showy, as you all
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learn a little bit more and feel more comfortable, I
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guess you're all going to start having more fun doing it.
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And that's my best expectation for the show is that
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you all had fun doing it. You know, I know
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you both like it, but it's still a little hard
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for everybody because we're not used to this. You know,
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it's new, and as that happens, people are going to
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like no more because they're going to see that we're
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having fun.
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Do you have a message to people watching?
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I would like everybody to get involved, you know, to
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get involved on our films. No, we have we create
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a little film club. That way people who want to
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learn filmmaking. You know, they'll be acting or they'll be
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helping behind the cameras and learn together hands on. So
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you know, if you want to participate on there, you
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can contact Three Fight three studios or people get involved
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with our podcast, you know, just send us questions or
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suggest whatever guests you think the kids should be inviting
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here to this table.
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Well, thank you for being here and showing us what
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it's like to see the world through a camera.
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Lens.
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Yes, thank you for coming here on this side of
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the table and not over there running the cameras.
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Yeah, I cannot say it was a pleasure, but you know,
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to being from the camera, which I hate, but it's
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a pleasure to be here with you all. Oh Darie,
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I know right. Have fine.
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There we go, and to everyone watching, thanks for joining
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us and we'll see you next time on Kidversations.
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Bye bye.
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Kidversations. Small voices, big stories.
