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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, November 5th. One down, two to go. Two more executions are still scheduled in the U.S. for today. One of them is in Alabama, where the inmate is arguing he shouldn't be executed because you all aren't executing me the way I want to be executed. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. It seems... Odd, he was given a choice, and they are not honoring his choice, and he's making an argument. Well, you shouldn't kill me then. Again, they're all fascinating cases.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and we see plenty of legal maneuvers, last-minute legal maneuvers similar to this one, where you'll see a death row inmate deliberately choose a method of execution that isn't legal in that state, trying to buy some time. And in this case, yes, he did say he wanted to die by nitrogen gas, but that has proven to be, well, let's just say wildly controversial in the state of Alabama. So they are not honoring his wishes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, controversial and even unconstitutional. This is an interesting one here, how this all came about and he ends up, Michael Taylor going to be executed by lethal injection. His is scheduled for six o'clock.
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Speaker 1: Is that Local time, so it'll be 7 p.m. Eastern time, 6 p.m.
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Speaker 2: Central time. So his will be the last of the day. We had an earlier execution that happened just after midnight in Indiana local time, and then we have one in Florida this evening as well. So Michael Taylor will be the last of the day. And really, Robes, this will be a really heinous crime here to describe when you're talking about beating an 83- and a 79-year-old couple to death with a metal bar. Yes, who he knew them.
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Speaker 1: This was a couple familiar to him. That's why this couple was willing to invite him into their home. I read an account where they even, when he came in, he was 19 years old. He was AWOL from the Navy, I believe, at the time. But they even offered him a donut and invited him into the kitchen as they were getting him some food, being grandparent-ly, basically. He, yes... decides to surprise attack them one at a time with a metal bar.
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Speaker 2: He was 19 at the time, as you said there, Robes, and he has been on death row since now, 1993. This man is 54 years old now, and this crime happened in 1991. Robes, that's something to think, just how much of his life, if you do the percentages, has been spent, the majority of it, behind bars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Robes, this guy, it's... It's remarkable to think these cases, who knows what was going on in his mind at the time. But this was in Alabama in 1991. Gadsden, I wasn't familiar with this area, but it's Gadsden, Alabama, about 65 miles northeast of Birmingham. And look, in 1991, what his Navy career was, I didn't see what kind of trouble he had gotten into, but you can't go AWOL from the military. Everybody knows that. So He's out and about at the time. And again, Robes, this is somebody he knew, was familiar with. He was at the house, asked to use the phone. And from there, why, Robes? Was this really just a robbery? Was this just necessary? But that was the motive here, according to authorities.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disturbing to think that according to court documents, he got away with, I believe, a wallet, a purse, a checkbook, and the couple's Cadillac. And he went from murdering these two elderly folks to going on a shopping spree at the local mall where he purchased clothing and jewelry, I believe $ 1, 500 worth. To think that this sweet couple was willing to invite him into their home and give him some food, let him use their phone, and all for $ 1, 500. They were brutally beaten and murdered.
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Speaker 2: And this happened on November 4th, 1991. He's being executed on November 5th, 2026. Almost 35 years to the day. And Robes, this is.
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. And then we've researched him and looking into this. This is a heinous crime when you talk about $ 1, 500 and you just want to go shopping. He's in their house. The man, apparently, the 83-year-old Ivan, Ivan Moore, Ivan and Lucille, the couple's name. But according to authorities, he had made him food. He had made this man food to eat and had actually offered him more, went to the refrigerator to start preparing something else for him to eat. And he was attacked. While he was bent over, back turned at the refrigerator. Now, according to authorities, this man was beaten with a metal pipe. Robes, 83-year-old, that's a frail, generally speaking. I don't know what kind of health he's in. But an 83-year-old is usually not much of a match for a 19-year-old. I would argue, especially a guy in the Navy. That's just an assumption you have to make. Robes, they said he hit this dude 17 times, including 11 times in the head with a metal bar. That's the guy we're talking about now who is desperately trying to get off death row, trying to have his life spared. After that, they said Lucille, the woman, she's 79 years old, comes in, discovers it, and he attacks her. She struck at least 10 times with a metal bar. Again, the ropes to try to understand the horror. A 19-year-old young man beating a 79-year-old woman with a metal bar.
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Speaker 1: And adding to that horror, as he leaves her for dead and had already murdered her husband, their bodies or they were not found until two days later by a neighbor. And guess what? Lucille was still alive.
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Speaker 2: She died later.
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Speaker 1: She succumbed to her injuries in the hospital. But to think, I was just imagining that she was still alive for hours after he brutally beat her before she eventually died.
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Speaker 2: It's just awful. So we say sometimes, Robes, there are cases, and some we have, where people are making impassioned arguments that it's cruel and unusual that this person had something in their background or, you know, sympathy to some degree, mercy to some degree. There's not that kind of a, a groundswell of support for stopping this. He has different reasons for it. This is only going to be the third execution of the year in the state of Alabama, a state, Robes, that uses now lethal injection. They use a three-drug cocktail. They use a three-drug cocktail now. This is not the pentobarbital like they use in Tennessee. See, Robes, after Krista Pike, everybody hears there's an execution. Which one are they using? Right. Which lethal injection are they using? It's weird that we've all become kind of familiar with this particular. method of execution for tonight.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. And so, look, this has been back and forth with the state of Alabama, as we pointed out. But it's, look, this is a case where this isn't a matter of guilt or innocence. The only argument I've even seen other than the this isn't how I want to die argument, the only other argument that's being made in defense of Michael Taylor is the age he was at the time of the crime. A lot of people say 19, 18, 17. Anyone below the age of 20 does not have the fully formed brain that you, I think many people would believe should be in place before you actually sentence someone to death. Yes, he should spend the rest of his life behind bars, but there is an argument that many make that say, There is a certain age that we should consider before actually assigning someone the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: It's an argument many make. Well, unless they're wearing black robes in Washington, D.C., it doesn't matter because the Supreme Court has determined robes at 18 is good enough. What was it? Krista Pike, right? 18 and 17, her age. Boyfriend was 17 at the time, was he not?
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Speaker 1: Yes. I believe she was just seven, eight months older than her boyfriend, but those seven to eight months were the difference between life in prison and the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court has ruled. You're 18 when you committed that crime. You are fair game for an execution. So, yes, he's 19 right at that cusp, Robes. But a little background here in Alabama. Alabama was the first state to start using nitrogen gas. And Rome's, when they started, what year was it? Do I have it right? 2023 or 2024? When they start using it.
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Speaker 1: It was January of 2024. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So that year they had seven executions, all seven with nitrogen gas. And Rome's, the description of this stuff is pretty nasty of how this works. Put a mask on you and you're breathing something in, but it ain't oxygen. You are sucking in nitrogen gas, which is, because you don't have oxygen, it's depleting your cells, Robes. It sounds like a horrific death, and there were reports that there were some pretty nasty outcomes, or it didn't look good in that death chamber when people were being killed like this. So it got examined. Court comes along, says, you know, this is likely unconstitutional, Alabama. They appeal. Appellate court comes back. This is likely unconstitutional, Alabama. So where does this go with Michael Taylor? Michael Taylor said he wanted to be executed using nitrogen gas. It ain't available anymore. And that is the crux of his argument. Stay here. We'll tell you about this legal back and forth and why he says absolutely it is against his legal rights for the state of Alabama to execute him in a method that he did not choose.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ, Alabama, one of three states on this day, Thursday, November 5th, that will be putting to death an inmate on death row, Alabama, scheduled to execute Michael Shannon Taylor for the brutal beating death of a 1991 murder of an elderly couple. He will be the third person executed by the state. But he's not going to die in the manner in which he chose. And that is, at least has been, his last minute argument.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure how far he's going to get with this one because he's tried it and tried it and it hasn't worked anywhere yet. But you go back, Robes, 2018, Alabama was, you know, ahead of a lot of other states. There was a lot of, yeah, right? Around this time, there was so much talk about the.
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Speaker 1: Lethal injection.
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Speaker 2: And the drugs. People having a hard time getting them. What's constitutional, what's not. And there was a little lull for a little while, was there not? A lot of states kind of backed off. And they weren't using these drugs. So, here comes Alabama. We got another method. 2018. So, when the legislature says, okay, we're going to start using nitrogen gas as an execution method, Rose, all the death row inmates got one month to make a choice.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people switched to the nitrogen gas because they were afraid of the lethal injection. There were so many stories. Plenty of states put moratoriums on executions based on botched attempts or at least prolonged deaths. Stories of cruel and unusual punishment, excessive pain, all of these concerns about one drug being used before the other or expired drugs, all of this stuff. made a lot of inmates nervous about how they were going to die. So, yeah, in Alabama, a lot of them switched over, thinking nitrogen gas would be quicker and less painful.
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Speaker 2: I guess it makes sense when they got it explained. They're going to put a mask on you. There's going to be some air, essentially, that comes in. You're going to breathe that in. You're going to go to sleep.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're thinking you're going to go to sleep.
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Speaker 2: That was the option he had. They only gave them a month. Figure it out, and you can pick your method. So, 2018, sure enough.
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Speaker 2: He picks his method and kind of forgets about it. The state continues on. 2014, they do all these executions. We had nitrogen gas. 2026, the court ruled that the nitrogen gas is unconstitutional. So, now what, Robes? Now what? I picked, says Michael Taylor, nitrogen gas. It's not available. You don't have the right to kill me now, is his argument.
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Speaker 1: And it's not going to work because there was a subsection of that 2018 law in Alabama.
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Speaker 2: I was trying to build it up.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I know. And you gave me the perfect point to just lob it over because, yes, a section of that law states this, and I'll quote it directly. If electrocution or nitrogen hypoxia are held unconstitutional, the method of execution shall be lethal injection.
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Speaker 2: Default. We just go to the default. Okay, you pick that. How do you argue that? It's not available. What do you want us to do? He's making the argument, Robes, that he is not necessarily saying he shouldn't die by nitrogen gas. He's saying he shouldn't die by the method that Alabama is using that nitrogen gas. They're getting really tech. Look, Robes, as of this recording, he is sitting where, waiting for what?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: He has everything. hours he is sitting somewhere by himself waiting to die yep ropes he is waiting for a phone to ring he is waiting for somebody to come in he is waiting for anything so yes every lawyer he has is throwing anything they got up against the wall and i guess there could be something last minute but as of this recording it is moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Uh yes and i believe it's should be noted that Plenty of inmates have challenged this particular method or used this type of argument, and they have all lost in court. This has not been a successful argument to date, and it almost certainly will not be a successful one for Michael Taylor.
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Speaker 2: Robes, we speak on these. These are just heavy and solemn days, no matter what, babe. And there's justice for some family. Other family members are losing someone. None of this is supposed to feel good. And here we are on another day in America where there are three. This is the second time this year we've had a triple execution day. Didn't we have one day, was it Florida that did a double execution day? What state was that?
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Speaker 1: Yes, Florida had a double, they had one in the morning and one in the evening. And they had another one planned, but that actually, Governor DeSantis in a rare, I mean, it was the only time, correct?
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Speaker 2: 77 year old guy, wasn't it?
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Speaker 1: He was 77 and he had really had some very specific mental health challenges that led Governor DeSantis again on an exceptionally rare moment. to stay his execution and commuted to life in prison. So, yes, we are looking at another record-setting year in Florida, and certainly plenty of other states are also trying to bring justice to families, in many cases, who have waited for decades.
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Speaker 2: We are obviously going to keep a very close eye on what's happening in Alabama tonight, as well as in Florida tonight. Take a look at our fee. We also will have for you the details of the other robes. You've been looking at it more into it more so than I have. But again, the Florida case is another fascinating one.
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Speaker 1: They all are. Each case has its own specific details that make you understand why these juries voted in many cases unanimously to sentence these inmates to death. So please check out in just a little bit. We will have the execution of Jesse Guardaro, which will be taking place in Florida as well. But in the meantime, all eyes on Alabama. We will keep you up to date. But in the meantime, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach, alongside TJ Holmes.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, November 5th. One down, two to go. Two more executions are still scheduled in the U.S. for today. One of them is in Alabama, where the inmate is arguing he shouldn't be executed because you all aren't executing me the way I want to be executed. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. It seems... Odd, he was given a choice, and they are not honoring his choice, and he's making an argument. Well, you shouldn't kill me then. Again, they're all fascinating cases.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and we see plenty of legal maneuvers, last-minute legal maneuvers similar to this one, where you'll see a death row inmate deliberately choose a method of execution that isn't legal in that state, trying to buy some time. And in this case, yes, he did say he wanted to die by nitrogen gas, but that has proven to be, well, let's just say wildly controversial in the state of Alabama. So they are not honoring his wishes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, controversial and even unconstitutional. This is an interesting one here, how this all came about and he ends up, Michael Taylor going to be executed by lethal injection. His is scheduled for six o'clock.
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Speaker 1: Is that Local time, so it'll be 7 p.m. Eastern time, 6 p.m.
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Speaker 2: Central time. So his will be the last of the day. We had an earlier execution that happened just after midnight in Indiana local time, and then we have one in Florida this evening as well. So Michael Taylor will be the last of the day. And really, Robes, this will be a really heinous crime here to describe when you're talking about beating an 83- and a 79-year-old couple to death with a metal bar. Yes, who he knew them.
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Speaker 1: This was a couple familiar to him. That's why this couple was willing to invite him into their home. I read an account where they even, when he came in, he was 19 years old. He was AWOL from the Navy, I believe, at the time. But they even offered him a donut and invited him into the kitchen as they were getting him some food, being grandparent-ly, basically. He, yes... decides to surprise attack them one at a time with a metal bar.
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Speaker 2: He was 19 at the time, as you said there, Robes, and he has been on death row since now, 1993. This man is 54 years old now, and this crime happened in 1991. Robes, that's something to think, just how much of his life, if you do the percentages, has been spent, the majority of it, behind bars.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Robes, this guy, it's... It's remarkable to think these cases, who knows what was going on in his mind at the time. But this was in Alabama in 1991. Gadsden, I wasn't familiar with this area, but it's Gadsden, Alabama, about 65 miles northeast of Birmingham. And look, in 1991, what his Navy career was, I didn't see what kind of trouble he had gotten into, but you can't go AWOL from the military. Everybody knows that. So He's out and about at the time. And again, Robes, this is somebody he knew, was familiar with. He was at the house, asked to use the phone. And from there, why, Robes? Was this really just a robbery? Was this just necessary? But that was the motive here, according to authorities.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disturbing to think that according to court documents, he got away with, I believe, a wallet, a purse, a checkbook, and the couple's Cadillac. And he went from murdering these two elderly folks to going on a shopping spree at the local mall where he purchased clothing and jewelry, I believe $ 1, 500 worth. To think that this sweet couple was willing to invite him into their home and give him some food, let him use their phone, and all for $ 1, 500. They were brutally beaten and murdered.
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Speaker 2: And this happened on November 4th, 1991. He's being executed on November 5th, 2026. Almost 35 years to the day. And Robes, this is.
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. And then we've researched him and looking into this. This is a heinous crime when you talk about $ 1, 500 and you just want to go shopping. He's in their house. The man, apparently, the 83-year-old Ivan, Ivan Moore, Ivan and Lucille, the couple's name. But according to authorities, he had made him food. He had made this man food to eat and had actually offered him more, went to the refrigerator to start preparing something else for him to eat. And he was attacked. While he was bent over, back turned at the refrigerator. Now, according to authorities, this man was beaten with a metal pipe. Robes, 83-year-old, that's a frail, generally speaking. I don't know what kind of health he's in. But an 83-year-old is usually not much of a match for a 19-year-old. I would argue, especially a guy in the Navy. That's just an assumption you have to make. Robes, they said he hit this dude 17 times, including 11 times in the head with a metal bar. That's the guy we're talking about now who is desperately trying to get off death row, trying to have his life spared. After that, they said Lucille, the woman, she's 79 years old, comes in, discovers it, and he attacks her. She struck at least 10 times with a metal bar. Again, the ropes to try to understand the horror. A 19-year-old young man beating a 79-year-old woman with a metal bar.
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Speaker 1: And adding to that horror, as he leaves her for dead and had already murdered her husband, their bodies or they were not found until two days later by a neighbor. And guess what? Lucille was still alive.
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Speaker 2: She died later.
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Speaker 1: She succumbed to her injuries in the hospital. But to think, I was just imagining that she was still alive for hours after he brutally beat her before she eventually died.
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Speaker 2: It's just awful. So we say sometimes, Robes, there are cases, and some we have, where people are making impassioned arguments that it's cruel and unusual that this person had something in their background or, you know, sympathy to some degree, mercy to some degree. There's not that kind of a, a groundswell of support for stopping this. He has different reasons for it. This is only going to be the third execution of the year in the state of Alabama, a state, Robes, that uses now lethal injection. They use a three-drug cocktail. They use a three-drug cocktail now. This is not the pentobarbital like they use in Tennessee. See, Robes, after Krista Pike, everybody hears there's an execution. Which one are they using? Right. Which lethal injection are they using? It's weird that we've all become kind of familiar with this particular. method of execution for tonight.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. And so, look, this has been back and forth with the state of Alabama, as we pointed out. But it's, look, this is a case where this isn't a matter of guilt or innocence. The only argument I've even seen other than the this isn't how I want to die argument, the only other argument that's being made in defense of Michael Taylor is the age he was at the time of the crime. A lot of people say 19, 18, 17. Anyone below the age of 20 does not have the fully formed brain that you, I think many people would believe should be in place before you actually sentence someone to death. Yes, he should spend the rest of his life behind bars, but there is an argument that many make that say, There is a certain age that we should consider before actually assigning someone the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: It's an argument many make. Well, unless they're wearing black robes in Washington, D.C., it doesn't matter because the Supreme Court has determined robes at 18 is good enough. What was it? Krista Pike, right? 18 and 17, her age. Boyfriend was 17 at the time, was he not?
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Speaker 1: Yes. I believe she was just seven, eight months older than her boyfriend, but those seven to eight months were the difference between life in prison and the death penalty.
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court has ruled. You're 18 when you committed that crime. You are fair game for an execution. So, yes, he's 19 right at that cusp, Robes. But a little background here in Alabama. Alabama was the first state to start using nitrogen gas. And Rome's, when they started, what year was it? Do I have it right? 2023 or 2024? When they start using it.
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Speaker 1: It was January of 2024. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So that year they had seven executions, all seven with nitrogen gas. And Rome's, the description of this stuff is pretty nasty of how this works. Put a mask on you and you're breathing something in, but it ain't oxygen. You are sucking in nitrogen gas, which is, because you don't have oxygen, it's depleting your cells, Robes. It sounds like a horrific death, and there were reports that there were some pretty nasty outcomes, or it didn't look good in that death chamber when people were being killed like this. So it got examined. Court comes along, says, you know, this is likely unconstitutional, Alabama. They appeal. Appellate court comes back. This is likely unconstitutional, Alabama. So where does this go with Michael Taylor? Michael Taylor said he wanted to be executed using nitrogen gas. It ain't available anymore. And that is the crux of his argument. Stay here. We'll tell you about this legal back and forth and why he says absolutely it is against his legal rights for the state of Alabama to execute him in a method that he did not choose.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ, Alabama, one of three states on this day, Thursday, November 5th, that will be putting to death an inmate on death row, Alabama, scheduled to execute Michael Shannon Taylor for the brutal beating death of a 1991 murder of an elderly couple. He will be the third person executed by the state. But he's not going to die in the manner in which he chose. And that is, at least has been, his last minute argument.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure how far he's going to get with this one because he's tried it and tried it and it hasn't worked anywhere yet. But you go back, Robes, 2018, Alabama was, you know, ahead of a lot of other states. There was a lot of, yeah, right? Around this time, there was so much talk about the.
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Speaker 1: Lethal injection.
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Speaker 2: And the drugs. People having a hard time getting them. What's constitutional, what's not. And there was a little lull for a little while, was there not? A lot of states kind of backed off. And they weren't using these drugs. So, here comes Alabama. We got another method. 2018. So, when the legislature says, okay, we're going to start using nitrogen gas as an execution method, Rose, all the death row inmates got one month to make a choice.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of people switched to the nitrogen gas because they were afraid of the lethal injection. There were so many stories. Plenty of states put moratoriums on executions based on botched attempts or at least prolonged deaths. Stories of cruel and unusual punishment, excessive pain, all of these concerns about one drug being used before the other or expired drugs, all of this stuff. made a lot of inmates nervous about how they were going to die. So, yeah, in Alabama, a lot of them switched over, thinking nitrogen gas would be quicker and less painful.
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Speaker 2: I guess it makes sense when they got it explained. They're going to put a mask on you. There's going to be some air, essentially, that comes in. You're going to breathe that in. You're going to go to sleep.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're thinking you're going to go to sleep.
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Speaker 2: That was the option he had. They only gave them a month. Figure it out, and you can pick your method. So, 2018, sure enough.
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Speaker 2: He picks his method and kind of forgets about it. The state continues on. 2014, they do all these executions. We had nitrogen gas. 2026, the court ruled that the nitrogen gas is unconstitutional. So, now what, Robes? Now what? I picked, says Michael Taylor, nitrogen gas. It's not available. You don't have the right to kill me now, is his argument.
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Speaker 1: And it's not going to work because there was a subsection of that 2018 law in Alabama.
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Speaker 2: I was trying to build it up.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I know. And you gave me the perfect point to just lob it over because, yes, a section of that law states this, and I'll quote it directly. If electrocution or nitrogen hypoxia are held unconstitutional, the method of execution shall be lethal injection.
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Speaker 2: Default. We just go to the default. Okay, you pick that. How do you argue that? It's not available. What do you want us to do? He's making the argument, Robes, that he is not necessarily saying he shouldn't die by nitrogen gas. He's saying he shouldn't die by the method that Alabama is using that nitrogen gas. They're getting really tech. Look, Robes, as of this recording, he is sitting where, waiting for what?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: He has everything. hours he is sitting somewhere by himself waiting to die yep ropes he is waiting for a phone to ring he is waiting for somebody to come in he is waiting for anything so yes every lawyer he has is throwing anything they got up against the wall and i guess there could be something last minute but as of this recording it is moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Uh yes and i believe it's should be noted that Plenty of inmates have challenged this particular method or used this type of argument, and they have all lost in court. This has not been a successful argument to date, and it almost certainly will not be a successful one for Michael Taylor.
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Speaker 2: Robes, we speak on these. These are just heavy and solemn days, no matter what, babe. And there's justice for some family. Other family members are losing someone. None of this is supposed to feel good. And here we are on another day in America where there are three. This is the second time this year we've had a triple execution day. Didn't we have one day, was it Florida that did a double execution day? What state was that?
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Speaker 1: Yes, Florida had a double, they had one in the morning and one in the evening. And they had another one planned, but that actually, Governor DeSantis in a rare, I mean, it was the only time, correct?
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Speaker 2: 77 year old guy, wasn't it?
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Speaker 1: He was 77 and he had really had some very specific mental health challenges that led Governor DeSantis again on an exceptionally rare moment. to stay his execution and commuted to life in prison. So, yes, we are looking at another record-setting year in Florida, and certainly plenty of other states are also trying to bring justice to families, in many cases, who have waited for decades.
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Speaker 2: We are obviously going to keep a very close eye on what's happening in Alabama tonight, as well as in Florida tonight. Take a look at our fee. We also will have for you the details of the other robes. You've been looking at it more into it more so than I have. But again, the Florida case is another fascinating one.
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Speaker 1: They all are. Each case has its own specific details that make you understand why these juries voted in many cases unanimously to sentence these inmates to death. So please check out in just a little bit. We will have the execution of Jesse Guardaro, which will be taking place in Florida as well. But in the meantime, all eyes on Alabama. We will keep you up to date. But in the meantime, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach, alongside TJ Holmes.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.
