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[SPEAKER_00]: Heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heavy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heavy board.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But all right, this is another episode of heavyboard that we are continuing with the last American sitcom, modern family with Eric.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, you're basically a co-host on this now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A regular coming on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, welcome back to heavyboard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thanks, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Season 7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, really excited for the sixth season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots to say about this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, that's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is such an important season and I didn't even realize it because like, you know, the last we did last episode and I was always season five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like season six, it is the turning season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I was texting Eric about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners, it was like, it's kind of the turning season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, don't wanna overemphasize that because it's still funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still, mostly even when they do woke things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still kind of the woke is the punchline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're making fun of it still in a way, but yeah, it is happening, particularly with kind of manny, like his character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what they were doing with manny this season compared to last season, especially I have wonder, well, before we get to all that, yeah, how did season 6 treat you with the rewatch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did notice like the Andy was still in this throughout the season and was like this playing it's a pretty pivotal pivotal role in a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of stuff I noticed is a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in or American, and that comes in a play with language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants someone else to be Spanish, because she misses speaking English.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of those themes like cultural identity coming into some of the episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Haley kind of gets the spotlight as far as
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's good because I remember correctly they develop her character a little like she becomes a little bit more central.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a lot of the plots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like it's because she's like she's an adult now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's like out of school in this way, like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they they they're giving her more of like she's one of the other adult characters kind of store lines you know like you know we had all the adult characters from the beginning you know the parents and stuff but now she's like becoming one of the adult characters too as opposed to like you know all the other kids still have a few years to go for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, yeah, let's hear kind of really blossom, especially the actress and the character and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we're six seasons in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, everybody, you know, all the actors, know the characters, all the writers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Though I will say, dude, like, I texted you about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we talked about it a little bit last episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're listening that episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners in part five, where there's a, there was a little tussle in the writers room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said towards the
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if there were any changes and I don't know exactly anybody that does know any insider information, put it in the comments here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it does seem like there was just a tonal, slightly tonal shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it has, I'm thinking it has more to do with the internet influencing everything than it does with like kind of the birth of what district, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's kind of just the internet language, internet way of speaking, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, just starting to come in particularly with the man he character and and and Alex and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just noticed these kind of internet speak that was just not there before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, okay, this is 2014 into 2015.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm pretty sure the word woke didn't even exist yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, no, it was still probably like political correct, you know, politically correct or something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really remember woke coming into like the vocabulary until like 20 19, 20 18, 20 19 around there, but yeah, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember it post post Trump like 2016, 17.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like yeah, and also it's season six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you mentioned the writer's room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think things did change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you cut out again here let's let's just let's just cut it out yeah I can hear you but it's just like it's kind of yeah let's just turn this off for that should work sorry it was like right when you were like dude the writer's room and then it like cut out I was like oh my god we're missing out yeah where we said yeah so I was saying that the writer's room it did the six season is
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know if it was necessarily because of modern family this show itself, or if there is just a different reaction going on with outstanding quality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a really like, you know, political satire so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this was the first season they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first one that they did not win any.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's stuff standing calm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many series every single season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a big shift from more of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, we want to just, you know, comedies about family is to like, oh, no, we need to comment on the culture now that, you know, it's 2015 and we're seeing these, you know, Trump is on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like he'd already announced, or maybe he was about to in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there is that thing like running for president.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you can see that there's a shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely shift culturally and also, but it's like, I wonder if it's also that thing where just like, okay, they want it like five years in a row or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like the people voting were just sick of voting for modern family, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, partly that partly the cultural shift partly that yeah, you know, the show has been on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the six year now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've, you know, all of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there was just slightly too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to emphasize this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess the listeners, the thesis on this is that like, you know, we're approaching this rewatch here with modern family series taking it season by season episode by episode because
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it does map perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The thesis is the modern family tracks perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The culture at the time and the huge shift we went through around this 2016 era.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're not quite into the huge big shifts that are coming, but it's just subtle little hints or starting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pointed song about last episode, again, go listen to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you get to listen to the whole series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners and me and Eric doing this because then you'll hear all the little nuances and you hear about how the writers room and things are changing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we have that first episode, the long honey moon because it ended with the wedding of Mitch and Cam last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, great finale for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do we have in this episode?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we have the don't fees having a great summer without Alex there, which is a great bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're all happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, it's like, yeah, like on the second cartoon,
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[SPEAKER_01]: whimsicalness to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then right when Alex enters the room, everyone turns on each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Phil eating the plums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't had a bad plum all summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And every time he eats, so he'd like just makes a sit like an orgasmic sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by when Alex got home, he did into the plum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like pretending he wanted to say to
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[SPEAKER_01]: as they get J to improve his appearance, but that backfires, like, so yeah, she asks, and like, oh, well, how would, how did you like it if I stopped dressing up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he like admits, like, he has some kind of thing he do with a little too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she just starts like dressing all, like, she'll be smearing her makeup and meeting with some clients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: dresses awfully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have the the webcam that with Haley starting her fashion vlog, but she's just because she left a web camera on in for like 24 seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, it's got like 50,000 subscribers because she's like out of the shower like in the webcam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the beginning of this, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The kind of, I mean, again,
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[SPEAKER_02]: particularly in the, you know, CD kind of porn world blah blah, but I don't know, it was just everything with the tech was probably just improving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why web camming and, you know, blogging on YouTube and things were just becoming a huge part of the culture, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a funny gag.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the biggest thing I noticed in that first episode was just like, man, is they're like a tonal shift?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this the kind of like a style of writing and it wasn't really until I had like episode two, I was like man, there's just kind of a style of writing that's definitely just a new thing here, there's like an explaining, there's like a, and again, I think we could probably lay that at the feet of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of just internet culture, you know, the internet snark kind of tone, internet tone, maybe, is just, you know, influencing things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's broadening beyond social media and, you know, stretching its tentacles into the real world at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we go through, I mean, everybody listening, this knows we go through about a 10-year period here where everything is internet speak, every article, every review, every news channel that you'd for you put on
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that was, uh, you know, I said, I really noticed that an episode two that do not push with, uh, do that's great, too, with Phil and the, and the kids and Luke and Haley and that, uh, like, experiment like that college campus or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I know what you mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is this, like, kind of this shift because also the way they write J. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: especially in this episode, instead of buying a nice, he takes a pot of, like, a pretty color pottery class, or he makes like a clay statue with a bunny for her, because he called her bunny when that was in one of the fun, funniest scenes like that made me laugh
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[SPEAKER_01]: early in this season than anything was him trying to like present her and she's like, oh, it's, yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, oh, well, about like it's what's inside or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she says, oh, there's something inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she just breaks it like it just smashes the bunny said on the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that heartbroken look on Jay is hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's trying to hold back from crying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh yeah, it was it was supposed to go down there and have a talk with him and he's trying to hold back tears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where I first noticed it was the scene after that where many comes in and explains everything that happened to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just like, we didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, and it okay, you know, whatever, like, you know, they have to write 24 episodes for this, but I was just like, it was just crazy to me that I was like, man, either man he's really starting to phone it in, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A little, or his just, you know, or that just did the actors, just, you know, he was a child, cast as a child, he's just not a great actor, and they're just, they're not giving him great stuff to work with either, but,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just kind of explains the situation to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just remember thing, I just, it just struck me at that moment, being like, this is different in terms of the writing style, where he's explaining why the situation was upset in the situation to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, man, they, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually they would just do that in a different way where it wouldn't just be this kind of, not, not lecture, you know, but it was just many explaining everything out to a T.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, you know, the sitcom trope is the miss understanding and that gets worked out eventually, uh, but it was like within one scene, like, man, he just comes in and explains it away and say, oh, it's resolved and I'm like, huh, that's not how they used to do it in the terms of writing, um, now I think also it with Jay's character, uh, it, I J would not have done that in the previous season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have just bought her the gift she likes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Knowing that, yeah, she likes expensive things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to get her jewelry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're kind of making him a little bit more sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's, you can't have just this masculine character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to make them give them those like a family that's much easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they definitely do that with Jay for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Same with with Phil, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They make him kind of even more weird, which is, you know, it's usually funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it is kind of like if we're doing it with the legs of, yeah, this is the kind of wokeness is coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's happening here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But just just the lines like, okay, so this plot of this is like Alex is visiting a college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the whole family went with her, whatever, but like, you know, she's like visiting and there was just a line, the nerdy boy says when they're at Caltech and he's like trying to impress Alex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this line I wrote down where he says, sorry, I have a touch of an Asperger's and then he's like, no, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just said that so you think I was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, oh, it's a small line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it works in the context of like, you know, two nerds having an awkward kind of flirting session, while they're touring to college, count tech of all colleges.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it's not like this was UCLA or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, oh, yeah, here it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Asperger is as a trait that makes you more interesting, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, people do that in a line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was just because of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that's everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or people will be like, oh, I'm a little autistic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, you're not like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, no, you're not like you're just a doerkey kid that likes physics or whatever likes doing the math problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, you don't have ass burgers kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, go on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's always, now it's like even Denver, and that it's like, oh, I, I'm really into, you know, like, I really like to collect records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have a hobby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's no like asked for those are autism that people really have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like 90% of that shit is just made out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's almost like, yeah, like a court, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is the court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chungus is being born in conjunction with the woke, you know, it is like, it's like a cultural archetype, I guess, in some way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is also the season that I noticed that, you know, two episodes didn't I was like, damn, everybody is blonde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gloria went more blonde with the highlights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hailey went more blonde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even Claire's like, even more blonde than she was, basically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just a man everybody looks blonde everybody's looking great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're hotter than ever And then this episode there was a great part where Alex hits the accent it's that rape On the yeah On campus That is good and it's like right at the end of like an awkward flirty moment she like leans on it and it just starts going off
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's screaming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like the emergency alarms on college campuses or whatever for women to press the feel unsafe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just starts like blaring lights flashing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And dude, I was thinking, I mean, this is in obviously hindsight's 2020 here, but even for episode three, the cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: we have this kind of, again, I know nobody knew COVID was going to happen, or that it was going to play out the way they did with this kind of people that have listened to this show know how that COVID was one of the most radicalizing events of my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll never get over it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just the idea of blaming people for getting you sick, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, again, it's it's funny in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's well done and it's kind of like a quirky little, you know, whatever funny little thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, please don't get me sick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, we've, I had an aunt that would always do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you like greet them at the holiday party or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, how are you doing to go for it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go in for a hug.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, no, be careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, people that were just really weird about that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: like there's oh that's always been a thing you know but it was just like man this idea of the a blaming everybody for getting everybody else sick when there's like a cold going around or something I don't I mean that never used to be a thing I remember like growing up you know and it was just interesting that it was like huh this is kind of a foretelling of what was to come I mean again this is this is the truth yeah yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I noticed this, too, with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that, yes, still in this one instance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Patients, you know, which is funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just the patience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he likes sneezes on the wedding cake and got everybody sick or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was almost like a family guy
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[SPEAKER_02]: where Phil was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm patient zero, he says this is going to be worth worse than the pink eye epidemic of summer of blah, blah, blah, like something like that and they cut to like a bird watching thing and Phil has pink eye with the binoculars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh my God, look at this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He starts like passing them inoculars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're everyone in the family giving them all pink eye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just one of those, it was like a family guy cut.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, unlike the previous seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was starting to get into that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I kept noticing this, even through episode three, just I wrote in this, there's like an explosion and exposition style.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a little different this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I noticed it with Luke, you know, Luke starts doing this thing in this season and we'll get specific examples where he's like, you know, who you really mad at me or your father for blah, you know, like something like that, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this kind of psychoanalysis and I think it may be internet culture coming in, you know, not full blown in the culture just yet, but just kind of leaking in here with kind of the internet, this psychoanalysis, the kind of, yeah, I don't know, the constant critique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I even think getting it's most of the kind of like, oh, you know, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the sit down and he's like, you know, oh, that line was just a shot in the dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he had no idea what he was really saying or something is just sort of like he heard it somewhere and figured, okay, that would work if I respond like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it does work and it usually shuts down wherever he's talking to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it keeps coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was with Phil or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like getting out of getting in trouble or something with his dad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they cut to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like total shot in the dark like yeah, that's and it's funny right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still a bit It's still written as a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just yeah, I just noticed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like hot Luke never used to do that But I get it whatever he's growing up stuff and then we have the anti-divine is back And we have anti-divine and the haily relationship
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what, what do we think of the anti-divine, the haily relationship throughout the season here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It, um, like, I like him because he's sort of like the young chill, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And haily is kind of like a young Claire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, it kind of works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can have a long run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just too likable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like Claire likes him, Phil likes everyone likes him because he's just sweet and nice guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that just doesn't make for like fun for the writers, like any more conflict than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's right, you know, Dylan was always like the fun made choice because Phil loved him, Claire hated him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of dumb, you know, like there are some problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in a long run, I just think they're going to run out of material for him and he's just he's kind of a one note character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's again, that kind of like goofy teddy bear, a sexual.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the funny running gag in this is that Hayley's new boyfriend is like catching them in like situations that would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But all right, this is another episode of heavyboard that we are continuing with the last American sitcom, modern family with Eric.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric is back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, you're basically a co-host on this now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A regular coming on here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, welcome back to heavyboard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thanks, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Season 7.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, really excited for the sixth season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots to say about this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, that's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is such an important season and I didn't even realize it because like, you know, the last we did last episode and I was always season five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like season six, it is the turning season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say I was texting Eric about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners, it was like, it's kind of the turning season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, don't wanna overemphasize that because it's still funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still, mostly even when they do woke things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still kind of the woke is the punchline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're making fun of it still in a way, but yeah, it is happening, particularly with kind of manny, like his character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what they were doing with manny this season compared to last season, especially I have wonder, well, before we get to all that, yeah, how did season 6 treat you with the rewatch?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did notice like the Andy was still in this throughout the season and was like this playing it's a pretty pivotal pivotal role in a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of stuff I noticed is a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in or American, and that comes in a play with language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wants someone else to be Spanish, because she misses speaking English.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of those themes like cultural identity coming into some of the episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Haley kind of gets the spotlight as far as
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's good because I remember correctly they develop her character a little like she becomes a little bit more central.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a lot of the plots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like it's because she's like she's an adult now, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's like out of school in this way, like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they they they're giving her more of like she's one of the other adult characters kind of store lines you know like you know we had all the adult characters from the beginning you know the parents and stuff but now she's like becoming one of the adult characters too as opposed to like you know all the other kids still have a few years to go for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, yeah, let's hear kind of really blossom, especially the actress and the character and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we're six seasons in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, everybody, you know, all the actors, know the characters, all the writers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Though I will say, dude, like, I texted you about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we talked about it a little bit last episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're listening that episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners in part five, where there's a, there was a little tussle in the writers room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You said towards the
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if there were any changes and I don't know exactly anybody that does know any insider information, put it in the comments here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it does seem like there was just a tonal, slightly tonal shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it has, I'm thinking it has more to do with the internet influencing everything than it does with like kind of the birth of what district, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's kind of just the internet language, internet way of speaking, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, just starting to come in particularly with the man he character and and and Alex and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just noticed these kind of internet speak that was just not there before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, okay, this is 2014 into 2015.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm pretty sure the word woke didn't even exist yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, no, it was still probably like political correct, you know, politically correct or something like that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really remember woke coming into like the vocabulary until like 20 19, 20 18, 20 19 around there, but yeah, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember it post post Trump like 2016, 17.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like yeah, and also it's season six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you mentioned the writer's room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think things did change.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you cut out again here let's let's just let's just cut it out yeah I can hear you but it's just like it's kind of yeah let's just turn this off for that should work sorry it was like right when you were like dude the writer's room and then it like cut out I was like oh my god we're missing out yeah where we said yeah so I was saying that the writer's room it did the six season is
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know if it was necessarily because of modern family this show itself, or if there is just a different reaction going on with outstanding quality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a really like, you know, political satire so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this was the first season they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first one that they did not win any.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's stuff standing calm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many series every single season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is a big shift from more of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, we want to just, you know, comedies about family is to like, oh, no, we need to comment on the culture now that, you know, it's 2015 and we're seeing these, you know, Trump is on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like he'd already announced, or maybe he was about to in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there is that thing like running for president.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you can see that there's a shift.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely shift culturally and also, but it's like, I wonder if it's also that thing where just like, okay, they want it like five years in a row or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like the people voting were just sick of voting for modern family, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, partly that partly the cultural shift partly that yeah, you know, the show has been on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the six year now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've, you know, all of that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there was just slightly too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to emphasize this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess the listeners, the thesis on this is that like, you know, we're approaching this rewatch here with modern family series taking it season by season episode by episode because
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it does map perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The thesis is the modern family tracks perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The culture at the time and the huge shift we went through around this 2016 era.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're not quite into the huge big shifts that are coming, but it's just subtle little hints or starting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pointed song about last episode, again, go listen to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you get to listen to the whole series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listeners and me and Eric doing this because then you'll hear all the little nuances and you hear about how the writers room and things are changing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we have that first episode, the long honey moon because it ended with the wedding of Mitch and Cam last season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, great finale for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do we have in this episode?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we have the don't fees having a great summer without Alex there, which is a great bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're all happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, it's like, yeah, like on the second cartoon,
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[SPEAKER_01]: whimsicalness to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then right when Alex enters the room, everyone turns on each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Phil eating the plums.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't had a bad plum all summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And every time he eats, so he'd like just makes a sit like an orgasmic sound.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by when Alex got home, he did into the plum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like pretending he wanted to say to
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[SPEAKER_01]: as they get J to improve his appearance, but that backfires, like, so yeah, she asks, and like, oh, well, how would, how did you like it if I stopped dressing up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he like admits, like, he has some kind of thing he do with a little too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she just starts like dressing all, like, she'll be smearing her makeup and meeting with some clients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: dresses awfully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have the the webcam that with Haley starting her fashion vlog, but she's just because she left a web camera on in for like 24 seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, it's got like 50,000 subscribers because she's like out of the shower like in the webcam.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the beginning of this, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The kind of, I mean, again,
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[SPEAKER_02]: particularly in the, you know, CD kind of porn world blah blah, but I don't know, it was just everything with the tech was probably just improving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why web camming and, you know, blogging on YouTube and things were just becoming a huge part of the culture, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a funny gag.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the biggest thing I noticed in that first episode was just like, man, is they're like a tonal shift?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this the kind of like a style of writing and it wasn't really until I had like episode two, I was like man, there's just kind of a style of writing that's definitely just a new thing here, there's like an explaining, there's like a, and again, I think we could probably lay that at the feet of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: of just internet culture, you know, the internet snark kind of tone, internet tone, maybe, is just, you know, influencing things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's broadening beyond social media and, you know, stretching its tentacles into the real world at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we go through, I mean, everybody listening, this knows we go through about a 10-year period here where everything is internet speak, every article, every review, every news channel that you'd for you put on
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that was, uh, you know, I said, I really noticed that an episode two that do not push with, uh, do that's great, too, with Phil and the, and the kids and Luke and Haley and that, uh, like, experiment like that college campus or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I know what you mean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is this, like, kind of this shift because also the way they write J. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: especially in this episode, instead of buying a nice, he takes a pot of, like, a pretty color pottery class, or he makes like a clay statue with a bunny for her, because he called her bunny when that was in one of the fun, funniest scenes like that made me laugh
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[SPEAKER_01]: early in this season than anything was him trying to like present her and she's like, oh, it's, yeah, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, oh, well, about like it's what's inside or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she says, oh, there's something inside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she just breaks it like it just smashes the bunny said on the table.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that heartbroken look on Jay is hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's trying to hold back from crying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh yeah, it was it was supposed to go down there and have a talk with him and he's trying to hold back tears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where I first noticed it was the scene after that where many comes in and explains everything that happened to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just like, we didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, and it okay, you know, whatever, like, you know, they have to write 24 episodes for this, but I was just like, it was just crazy to me that I was like, man, either man he's really starting to phone it in, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A little, or his just, you know, or that just did the actors, just, you know, he was a child, cast as a child, he's just not a great actor, and they're just, they're not giving him great stuff to work with either, but,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just kind of explains the situation to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just remember thing, I just, it just struck me at that moment, being like, this is different in terms of the writing style, where he's explaining why the situation was upset in the situation to Gloria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, man, they, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually they would just do that in a different way where it wouldn't just be this kind of, not, not lecture, you know, but it was just many explaining everything out to a T.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, you know, the sitcom trope is the miss understanding and that gets worked out eventually, uh, but it was like within one scene, like, man, he just comes in and explains it away and say, oh, it's resolved and I'm like, huh, that's not how they used to do it in the terms of writing, um, now I think also it with Jay's character, uh, it, I J would not have done that in the previous season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have just bought her the gift she likes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Knowing that, yeah, she likes expensive things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to get her jewelry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're kind of making him a little bit more sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's, you can't have just this masculine character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to make them give them those like a family that's much easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they definitely do that with Jay for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Same with with Phil, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They make him kind of even more weird, which is, you know, it's usually funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it is kind of like if we're doing it with the legs of, yeah, this is the kind of wokeness is coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's happening here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But just just the lines like, okay, so this plot of this is like Alex is visiting a college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the whole family went with her, whatever, but like, you know, she's like visiting and there was just a line, the nerdy boy says when they're at Caltech and he's like trying to impress Alex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's this line I wrote down where he says, sorry, I have a touch of an Asperger's and then he's like, no, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just said that so you think I was interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, oh, it's a small line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it works in the context of like, you know, two nerds having an awkward kind of flirting session, while they're touring to college, count tech of all colleges.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it's not like this was UCLA or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, oh, yeah, here it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Asperger is as a trait that makes you more interesting, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, people do that in a line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was just because of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that's everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or people will be like, oh, I'm a little autistic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, you're not like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, no, you're not like you're just a doerkey kid that likes physics or whatever likes doing the math problem.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know, you don't have ass burgers kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, go on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's always, now it's like even Denver, and that it's like, oh, I, I'm really into, you know, like, I really like to collect records.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have a hobby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's no like asked for those are autism that people really have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like 90% of that shit is just made out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's almost like, yeah, like a court, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is the court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chungus is being born in conjunction with the woke, you know, it is like, it's like a cultural archetype, I guess, in some way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is also the season that I noticed that, you know, two episodes didn't I was like, damn, everybody is blonde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gloria went more blonde with the highlights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hailey went more blonde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even Claire's like, even more blonde than she was, basically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just a man everybody looks blonde everybody's looking great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're hotter than ever And then this episode there was a great part where Alex hits the accent it's that rape On the yeah On campus That is good and it's like right at the end of like an awkward flirty moment she like leans on it and it just starts going off
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's screaming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like the emergency alarms on college campuses or whatever for women to press the feel unsafe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just starts like blaring lights flashing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And dude, I was thinking, I mean, this is in obviously hindsight's 2020 here, but even for episode three, the cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: we have this kind of, again, I know nobody knew COVID was going to happen, or that it was going to play out the way they did with this kind of people that have listened to this show know how that COVID was one of the most radicalizing events of my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll never get over it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: just the idea of blaming people for getting you sick, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, again, it's it's funny in this episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's well done and it's kind of like a quirky little, you know, whatever funny little thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, please don't get me sick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, we've, I had an aunt that would always do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you like greet them at the holiday party or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, how are you doing to go for it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go in for a hug.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, oh, no, be careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a cold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, people that were just really weird about that, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: like there's oh that's always been a thing you know but it was just like man this idea of the a blaming everybody for getting everybody else sick when there's like a cold going around or something I don't I mean that never used to be a thing I remember like growing up you know and it was just interesting that it was like huh this is kind of a foretelling of what was to come I mean again this is this is the truth yeah yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I noticed this, too, with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that, yes, still in this one instance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Patients, you know, which is funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just the patience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he likes sneezes on the wedding cake and got everybody sick or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was almost like a family guy
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[SPEAKER_02]: where Phil was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm patient zero, he says this is going to be worth worse than the pink eye epidemic of summer of blah, blah, blah, like something like that and they cut to like a bird watching thing and Phil has pink eye with the binoculars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh my God, look at this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He starts like passing them inoculars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're everyone in the family giving them all pink eye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just one of those, it was like a family guy cut.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, unlike the previous seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was starting to get into that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I kept noticing this, even through episode three, just I wrote in this, there's like an explosion and exposition style.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a little different this season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I noticed it with Luke, you know, Luke starts doing this thing in this season and we'll get specific examples where he's like, you know, who you really mad at me or your father for blah, you know, like something like that, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this kind of psychoanalysis and I think it may be internet culture coming in, you know, not full blown in the culture just yet, but just kind of leaking in here with kind of the internet, this psychoanalysis, the kind of, yeah, I don't know, the constant critique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I even think getting it's most of the kind of like, oh, you know, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the sit down and he's like, you know, oh, that line was just a shot in the dark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he had no idea what he was really saying or something is just sort of like he heard it somewhere and figured, okay, that would work if I respond like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it does work and it usually shuts down wherever he's talking to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it keeps coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was with Phil or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like getting out of getting in trouble or something with his dad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they cut to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like total shot in the dark like yeah, that's and it's funny right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still a bit It's still written as a joke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just yeah, I just noticed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like hot Luke never used to do that But I get it whatever he's growing up stuff and then we have the anti-divine is back And we have anti-divine and the haily relationship
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what, what do we think of the anti-divine, the haily relationship throughout the season here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It, um, like, I like him because he's sort of like the young chill, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And haily is kind of like a young Claire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, it kind of works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can have a long run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just too likable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like Claire likes him, Phil likes everyone likes him because he's just sweet and nice guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that just doesn't make for like fun for the writers, like any more conflict than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's right, you know, Dylan was always like the fun made choice because Phil loved him, Claire hated him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of dumb, you know, like there are some problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in a long run, I just think they're going to run out of material for him and he's just he's kind of a one note character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's again, that kind of like goofy teddy bear, a sexual.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the funny running gag in this is that Hayley's new boyfriend is like catching them in like situations that would.
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