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is an author, lecturer, and investigator. He began his writing
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career after spending more than twenty five years in law
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enforcement and private investigations. He holds a degree in interdisciplinary
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studies and his main curriculum was anthropology and archaeology with
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a focus on Mesoamerican cultures. He noticed a lack of
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archaeological investigation and to the reason past culture suddenly disappeared,
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which led him to research evidence that pointed towards the
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same catastrophic catastrophic events taking place at a worldwide level.
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He has also delved into research of topics of the
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paranormal and uthology, and he has come to believe that paranormal,
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uthology and ancient human history may have more in common
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than most want to admit. James, welcome back.
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How are you John Well, Chris, Hey, thanks for having
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me back on the show.
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Of course.
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Man, it's always great having you on. It's great to
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talk to you again. Last time we spoke was at
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i think the Mega conference last year we had. It
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was a really amazing presentation, one of my favorites, and
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if of course about the high Strangeness in your research
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surrounding the un Tah Basin and all the crazy stuff
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that goes on out there. And this year you're actually
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going to be giving another presentation, is that right?
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Yes, that's correct, I'll be speaking. They actually made it Friday,
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the twenty fifth of March. It's called the High Strangeness Day,
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and I'll be opening at a thirty am in the morning.
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Awesome. Now, without giving away too much, could you tell
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us a little bit about what you're going to be
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presenting this year.
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Yeah.
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The title is called The Lost and Forgotten Past, Confronting
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the High Strangeness to understand the truth and what it entails.
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Are locations all over the world that I've been to
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where the current anthropological and archaeology premise behind everything and
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what the archaeologists say doesn't really make sense. And what
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I want to do is. I want to present the
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additional information and data points that I've collected to show
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that there seems to be an even more distant history,
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that it goes much for the past what they tell
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us it does. And then not only is it, you know,
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human history, but it also seems to be other species,
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mainly giants that have been around the world. And I'm
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going to also talk and discuss the Ouelos de at
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Lisco alien artifacts that are coming out of Mexico and
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kind of give people heads up that a majority of
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it are they're fake, fraudulent, just because it's become a
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huge money maker for the drug cartels that are in
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that area.
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And interesting.
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I want to show and present some of the artifacts
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that I actually believe are real and are thousands of
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years old and kind of explain how that fits into
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the cultures and the civilizations that are in that north
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central portion of Mexico and work their way all the
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way actually up to the desert southwest.
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Now for you, what are some of the most profound
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findings that point to you know, like you said, archaeologists
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have been leading us down the wrong direction when it
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comes to our ancient past, and that it is much
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more interesting and fantastic than we could have ever imagined.
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You mentioned giants, What are some of the other maybe
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sightings or things that you have come across or research
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that kind of puts our ancient past. It gives it
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a different angle than what archaeologists are trying to portray.
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Sure So and Ted Deo La Khan in Mexico, there
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are a lot of locations on the site that aren't
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even talked about or discussed, that are underground and shouldn't
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be based upon what we're told and what the reason
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for them that we're being created doesn't make sense. The
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technology that's blow ground there is far greater than what
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we've been told. There's also a location on the Pacific
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coast of Mexico. It's known as Shiwa Khan. It's next
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to Ziawanta Najo and thirty years ago we were told
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there was no great civilization or cultures there. Yet we
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have an area that's about eight square miles that is
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nothing but pyramids, and to date we've only well they've
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only excavated a single pyramid and it's completely covered in
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clay that has lasted for over three thousand years. And
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I don't know if you've ever try putting stuckover clay
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on anything on a house, it only lasts like twelve
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to fifteen years before you have to completely replace it
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or at least make patch repair work to it. And
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this thing's lasted forever. And it's a cultural site where
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many many cultures and civilizations gathered from all over Central
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America from mezso America, and that was never supposed to happen,
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so why were they gathering at this one site. It
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also has the second largest ball court in Mesoamerica after
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the one in the Yucatan in Chichinitza. So these are
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also attached to the giants. We're told that Zelwah the
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Giant and six of his brothers or the seven giants,
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were the creators of this. If you talk again to
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the archaeologists and anthropologists, they say that's just mythology. Yet
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the Nahawa people and the other cultures state this is
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just oral tradition, which is actual history. And the final
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site is northeastern Utah near Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch,
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where you have these petroglyphs that all over the place
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show giants. They have six digits on their hands, they
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have these large feet that have been carved into the
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rock wall or painted on if it's a pictograph, and
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it's not just in one side or two sites, it's everywhere.
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And what you see goes along with a ton of
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the oral tradition of the Shoshone Indians that were the
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real Utah Territory Indians, not the Ute who were actually
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more within the what's now Colorado. So just a ton
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of this and it all seems to be connected. You
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have the giant connection between all these areas. You know,
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the oral traditions are very similar.
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Yeah, it makes me wonder, you know, they it seems
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that they would have all these different time types of
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ancient beings and different types of ancient humans. We find
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evidence of, like you said, giants, evidence of either humanoids
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or other types of beings with elongated skulls, evidence of
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little people. So it just seems like they just had
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all kinds of different types of beings, whether they were
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just forms of humanoids or primates or whatever they are
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something that we have not categorized. It makes me wonder.
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You know, you look at bigfoot sightings today, even sightings
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of strange little creatures, It makes me wonder if these
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beings are still here in some way. I think you
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mentioned underground. Maybe they could have gone underground and they
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just come out whenever they feel safe, or maybe they
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are in a different spectrum of vision that we can't
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even you know, we can't perceive because we don't have
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access to that. What do you think about that?
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Yeah, so the first point the underground. Over the last
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couple of years, I know everybody that thought has followed
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my work, It's changed a lot in regards to Skinwalker
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Ranch and the Unta Basin in the mountains that we've
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been underground. Now there are an unheard of amount of
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cavern systems, in tunnel systems and mines that are connected
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throughout the entire Unta Basin and mountains. And you know,
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it kind of goes into what you said about Bigfoot.
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I mean, if something like that were to be so elusive,
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you know, what better way than to do it underground?
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And there's obviously this potential for there to be a
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lot of lost artifacts and historical data and records bold
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you have. You know, the Seven Cities of Cibola. Is
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it really Kershannab which is supposedly in the Untam Mountains,
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that's actually Tamwan Khan to the Azteca, which with a
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you know, the mixtech of people. And then in regards
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to interdimensional, multi dimensional, I mean I think anything as possible.
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You know, we have NASA investigating these X points, these
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geomagnetic anomalies that take place that open portals from the
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Sun to the Earth, and these our mass or scientists
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you know, investigating this. So I absolutely believe that the
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potential for that same type of magnetic energy to create
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these portals is very capable on the planet as well
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as above it or outside of it at least.
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Yes.
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And one of the aspects that's always really fascinated me
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about these areas in the Unto Basin and skin Walker
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Ranch and just areas of high strangeness in general, is
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when you add in the high amount of UFO activity
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and things that we're seeing in the sky and strange
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orbs and lights and all these things add you put
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them together, and it's it's such a whi range of phenomenons.
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Say you have UFOs, but then at the same time
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you'll have maybe an apparition or are a ghost. And
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I was speaking with some researchers lately that some of
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them seem to believe that whatever kind of energy that
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a UFO gives off whenever it's either coming into our
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reality or are coming into the atmosphere, that it may
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have some kind of electromagnetic effect on the environment, and
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it could maybe either open portals or cause paranormal activity
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or some kind of enhanced activity. What do you think
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about that, Well, I.
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Mean, I think the potential in that type of energy
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is a lot greater than what we've or what we're
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currently aware of. Look at gravity, it goes against all
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other types of energy. It's it's very low and it
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doesn't have this strength that other types of energy do. However,
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what if that's based upon the fact that maybe the
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gravity is in multidimensions, so at a specific point, it's
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actually being pulled harder in a different dimension, and that's
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where that drop in the energetic potential for our dimension
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is found. And I know that a lot of the
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physicists are looking at that, and you know, with the
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larger colliders that they're using now, they're looking into the
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fact that you know, we absolutely don't understand gravity and
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maybe in some way the magnetism and the gravity interact
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together that we just haven't interpreted the data properly. And
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come to understand yet, and you know, I think we're
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at this point in time where suddenly all these large
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just discoveries are taking place, and the government or government
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entities seem to be forced are being forced now into
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giving up a little bit more of that information. So
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hopefully we'll learn what else is available or what current
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scientists what their most recent data points show, you know,
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and not have to wait ten or twenty years to
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find that out.
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Now, last time we spoke at the UFO Mega conference
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last year, you were going out there with something I
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believe called a magnetometer. Are you still using this?
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I am so.
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I have the vector magnetometer, which you know, tests and
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tells us what the magnetic reading is for that specific
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part from the Earth's core, and it's a vector it
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can tell us location is coming from. And I've also
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added a three D ground imaging magnetometer. Now it's a
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system that it actually looks into the ground up to
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sixty feet and can show if there are objects below,
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if there are cavities below, voids below, if there's water
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running through the ground. It converts that magnetic reading into
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through the software into a color match, and it's just
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incredible we've been using it, you know, on a couple
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of shows. I can't talk about that, but it'll be
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it'll be shown and in my future presentations coming up.
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What you're going to see is just it's simply amazing
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because it almost feels like you're cheating. You're able to actually,
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you know, look into the ground without being intrusive to
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it and having to dig or anything. We're capable of
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seeing if there are what those anomalies are. You know,
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with the vector magnetometer, you know there's something there, but
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you have no idea what it is. You know, there's
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this magnetic anomaly below. Is it a huge magnet? Is
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it maybe a hole that's creating less of a read
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than what the normal standards should be for that. But
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now with the three D ground imaging, I'm actually able
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to show you exactly what it is, how deep it is,
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what it looks like three dimensionally.
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So it's pretty cool.
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Yeah, that is really cool. Are you using any other
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types of equipment whenever you're going out there to do
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your research?
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I am so lately if you follow a lot of
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what's going on in these areas of high strangeness, whether
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it be the meadow out in Alabama or in Colorado
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or at Skinwalker Ranch. It looks like whatever this phenomena
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is or or certain phenomenon, they are capable of being
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seen in a different light that it's requiring, you know,
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night vision or thermal vision. So I had before, but
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it was pretty cheap quality. So I've upgraded quite a
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bit in order to conduct that type of investigation. And
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just due to the fact that it seems like a
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lot of people are starting to see UAP other types
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of species portals, whatever you want to call it or
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say that you've seen it seems to require night vision
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or thermal imaging in order to do that. So yeah,
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and that means a lot more night investigation than what
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I have done in the past. And I'm also we're
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coming together. There's going to be a few people that
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are actually going to start doing this as a group,
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just because you know, you know, more eyes than just
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my two eyes are a lot better cover a lot
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more ground in the specific locations for sure.
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Now you've mentioned a couple of places that are probably
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a little bit new for people that haven't really been
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researching this stuff. I remember the meadow that you just
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mentioned was an undisclosed location for a long time, they
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wouldn't even tell you what Stata was in. But now
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you said, you know, it's in Alabama, of course. But
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then we have the blind Frog Ranch and the UFO
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conference last year was the first time I've heard about
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this one as well. And this is a really fascinating area.
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Maybe for the audience that's not familiar, could you tell
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us a little bit about each location and what kind
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of concentrated phenomenon is going on in.
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These sure, so let's take the meadow first. The meadow
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is out in Alabama. I can't I'm not allowed to
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disclose the exact location, but it's in that state. Trey Hudson,
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who spoke last year you were there, discussed this. He's
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the lead investigator for a group of individuals that come
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together what occurs there are a lot of the same
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unexplainable events that are found around or at Skinwalker Ranch,
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meaning you have cryptids that have been cited there.
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You have.
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This transient energy, whether it be you RF, radio frequency
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electric field or electromagnetic field that shouldn't be occurring, especially
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out in the middle of nowhere where it's at. And
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then they for the first time that I've ever seen
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and I think you saw it too. They actually, using
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thermal imagings, caught three of their individuals looking into a
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portal and disappeared.
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Yeah, this was actually the most amazing footage I've ever
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seen in my life.
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Absolutely yeah, and it was. It was about ninety seconds
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of video that they had. And then to hear what
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those three individuals experienced while they were elsewhere, it was
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so dark, they couldn't see. There were suddenly all these
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thorny bushes around, and they knew that they were no
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longer where they were supposed to be, so they backed up,
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went backwards and had to circumnavigate all these thorny bushes
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that didn't exist when they walked into that area. And
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why they were there was because moments later, well probably
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about what ten minutes, they saw this huge rectangle box,
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yes on night vision, and it was there and we're
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talking large, and then it was gone, so was black,
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huge black cube just hovering above the ground. And then
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so that's why those three individuals actually walked to that
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site and then just disappeared. And it's just truly amazing
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because you hear about this, uh you know, but you've
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never seen the evidence like this, and it was just
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pretty exciting for you know.
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I was I'm still stunned that I was able to
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see something like that because these these people were literally,
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you know, on thermal imaging there one second and then boom,
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they're just they're not in existence, and you know, they
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come back, they pop out. How far was it from
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their original point where they exited.
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It wasn't very far.
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Yeah, yeah, because they kept the feet.
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Away from from where they went in.
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Right right right.
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Well that's because they had to navigate around these fours
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that were suddenly where they were. So it took them
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about ninety seconds to get around it because they said
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it was in total darkness they just couldn't see.
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Yeah, then it's incredible.
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Yeah, it was an amazing presentation that Trey gave. And
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now blind Frog Branch that's twenty one miles northeast of
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Skinwalker Ranch. It's right where the u in Top Basin
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meets the un Top mountains. What's occurred there? People have
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supposedly seen multiple UFOs at once. I believe it was
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nine at one time. The mountains have lit up in
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this blue light. They've found blue dirt when they were drilling.
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There is an underground cavern system that we absolutely know about.
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We've mapped it out about a little over a mile
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and a half long. Again, remember how I was telling
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you all these caverns underground and it's inundated with water.
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The water apparently has healing properties that have helped people
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that couldn't walk start walking again. And what's really amazing
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is there's this Aztec connection and this ancient not just
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the Spaniard connection, but also even older to this group
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of giants known as the Starknock that were miners. And
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there's this supposed site that is full of artifacts, tons
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of gold, and it supposedly around the blind Frog Ranch area.
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It's actually two locations. There's a Sacred Mind and then
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there's this sacred site called Kershnob. And so you have
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all of this coming together and then you have a
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there's a show about it. It's Mystery at blind Frog Ranch.
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As a matter of fact, Season two airs tonight. Episode
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one for the second season airs tonight at ten pm
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Eastern seven Pacific. And you've had the people that were
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working there see these apparitions go flying by in a
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blue light that look like Native Americans, and you have
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people that swear that they've seen what is apparently a
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cryptid that has bent branches into all types of circles
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above these tall trees that are at least about eight
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or nine feet tall, which you and I couldn't reach.
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So it's not just a phenomenon, it's multiple phenomena occurring.
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And again, you know, it's in this area where we
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have this anomalous energy which I absolutely believe is below
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ground on the Uenta basin and in the mountains.
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And it makes me wonder with you know, portals appearing
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everywhere and all this, like you said, underground energy, if
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it makes me lean towards that this could be more
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of these whatever these entities are, beings are, they could
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be coming through these portals into our reality. And for
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whatever reason, these portals manifest in this area easier than
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you know, anywhere else for some reason. And I'm wondering
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if you think it's because of something underground or some
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kind of property that the land has, or maybe something
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else causing it, because it's either these extraterrestrials or whatever's
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coming here is attracted to that or that is, you
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know the other way around. I don't know what do
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you think.
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I'm one hundred percent in agreement with you. Either the
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energy that's there is attracting it or creating the phenomena.
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And it's a lot. I mean, it's Ufoaley. It's one
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of the major Ufo alleys in our country. And in
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regards to the portals, there is something that is underground
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that looks like a massive magnet the way that it acts,
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it seems like a huge magnet is there. Whether that's
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natural or man made or other made, I don't know,
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but we know that for a fact, this transient energy
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that's occurring, I don't know how else to explain it
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unless there was something that magnetic below ground. One of
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the possibilities that a lot of people are looking into
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is maybe this was an ancient meteorite or asteroid that
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struck because remember Lake Uinta was in this location and
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it was so large. It encompassed parts of Colorado and
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parts of Utah. It was just a massive lake that
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was I think it was around about fifty two to
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fifty five million years ago. So easily if an asteroid
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struck in that water. In some parts it was a
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thousand feet deep, it would have been difficult for us
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to find that impact. But its properties from whatever rocks
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were there, which may have included quite a bit of
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gold and a ridium. Because the amount of gold that
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we're detecting in a ridium with certain equipment that I
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have is just through the roof. It's off the charts
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from what should occur naturally.
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Wow.
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So it could be, you know, some of the energy
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that's coming off of these these minerals that's maybe causing
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some kind of electromagnetic disturbance in the area. I don't know.
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Yeah, there's there's several possibilities. It's just a matter of time,
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you know, we need to figure out which one are separated.
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We know that our government and you know, dark factions
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of it at least, have been looking into that area
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for a long time. And I'm wondering if you have
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noticed any maybe increase since they've you know, since they've
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started doing shows on the History Channel and things like that,
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or has it remained the same or do you think
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that they've become more mainstream about their their kind of
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looking into it, And you know, how much do you
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think they do? You think they know a lot more
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than they're letting on.
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Well, remember that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program
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ASAT was taking place on Skinwalker Ranch when Bass was there,
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when Bob Bigelow owned it. You know, you had the big,
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bigger aerospace Advanced Space Studies group, and this private company
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was conducting all this data gathering and testing and a
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lot of stuff that I'm sure they haven't discussed for
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the government. And it was all in that area, you know.
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So you got to ask yourself, well, why I have
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a few problems with some of the people what they
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had said, because I've done a lot of research and
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a lot of I've spoken to a lot of people
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from best So there were some things that didn't really
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happen that they said happened just to please Bob, you know, Bigelow.
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But now when you look at what's happening on the
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show currently, that's all legitimate. I mean it's been captured
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on you know, filmed by a camera crews. There is
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something directly above this triangle area at Skinwalker Ranch that
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continues to open. You see it open, and then you
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see this UAP and everyone sees it at the same time.
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It's been captured. Uh, there's a lot of unexplainable events
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that continue to occur.
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But I think.
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There's some type of cyclical time frame involved when occurrence's
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phenomena occurs more than other periods. I believe that if
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you look back from around the mid nineteen nineties up
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until today and kind of chart that out, you'll start
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seeing certain patterns that look to show certain timeframes when
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this phenomena is more active than not. And I'm still
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researching that, so I don't want to go into too
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much detail yet until I can actually present all the
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data points on what I've gathered. But I mean, you know,
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it's just hard to say. It doesn't present itself on
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Q and it almost seems that it has a mind
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of its own or the ability to understand or to
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know what you wanted to do, and then it doesn't
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do it. Yeah, if you want to call that manifesting, maybe, I've.
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Heard plenty of people who've had encounters out in that
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area say that it's kind of like it feels like
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this trickster type of grand intelligence that maybe controls everything
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and even could control your perception of what's going on
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at times. Have you heard that or have you even
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maybe felt that at times?
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So when I've been on Skinwalker Ranch and around it,
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I've never had that feeling where I've been watched or
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something's been messing with me. However, that being said, I've
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experienced some things that at the time I didn't even
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realize that it had to do with some type of
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phenomena that we're investigating because I had never come across
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it before. And then somebody that was with me talked
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to another individual researcher or investigator, and then you know,
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you find that out at a later point in time,
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or when I present my research, I have people come
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up to me, like when I was at Phenomicon last
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year in Vernal, and after I gave my presentation, I
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ended up interviewing several people that had just a wealth
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of information. So I think the intelligence or whatever the
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phenomena is is attracted to certain individuals for what reason.
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I mean, I'm not sure, and I don't think anyone
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else is. So I think it's absolutely possible. It just
485
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:41.240
hasn't occurred to me in that situation or in that
486
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.200
case where you know, I felt like I was being
487
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:48.480
watched or something was stocking me, or I had something
488
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.319
follow me home. I haven't had that occur yet.
489
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.000
Are there right, Are there any stories that stick out
490
00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:01.359
in your mind? Anything really profound or terrifying that's happened
491
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.720
to anyone our stories. You've heard about encounters with either
492
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.319
entities or lights or UFOs or you know, anything out there.
493
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:16.559
So I I wasn't on the ranch, but I actually
494
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.640
had something that was really strange occur about a year ago.
495
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.000
But Chris, I'm saving it for the UFO Mega Con
496
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.000
discuss it then if you go. I'm going to end
497
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:34.519
my presentation with it in regards to probably one of
498
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:41.599
the craziest things that I've heard about. And it wasn't
499
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.440
experienced by one person, that was experienced by two individuals,
500
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.680
so you know that that's always better. And the two
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00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:56.160
individuals were the one person that I know, I absolutely
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00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:02.200
believe it, believe him has ties to the ranch. And
503
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.359
what they saw was a what seemed to be a
504
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:11.920
very very large animal that has been extinct for thousands
505
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:15.679
of years that shouldn't have been at Skinwalker Ranch. And
506
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.480
it makes you wonder because look at where it's at.
507
00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:21.760
It's in a location where there was all this large
508
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.400
flora and fauna thousands of years ago. It's one of
509
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:27.920
the best places to get fossils, you know.
510
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.840
So you're talking like a dinosaurs.
511
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.679
Or earlier towards our period, like a dire wolf.
512
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:37.960
Ah okay, okay.
513
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:42.480
And I think if you think about it, if there's
514
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.960
two possibilities you've already mentioned. One, if there's this this
515
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.159
rift in space and time, is it just crossing through
516
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.519
a portal from the past in the same location and
517
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:56.679
it just happens to come across our present And the
518
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:04.559
other possibility, oh, absolutely. And the other possibility is are
519
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.000
some of these creatures have they remained underground just based
520
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.559
upon how much cavern system is underground? You know, they
521
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.719
talk about here's another great one at Bottle Halla Reservoir,
522
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.320
which is three miles north of Skinwalker Ranch on at
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00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.119
Fort Duchane. On the reservation, there have been several drownings
524
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:32.280
that supposedly were created by this large black serpent that
525
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:37.000
they said was approximately thirty five to forty feet long.
526
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:44.360
The BIA, the law enforcement unit there, actually investigated it,
527
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.639
but they won't discuss it. Think about this Bottle Halla
528
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:51.760
Reservoir was this huge canyon underneath it are a ton
529
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.840
of cavern systems that are inundated with water. Why couldn't
530
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.480
something It would be dark, it wouldn't be able to
531
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.480
see anymore, it would come out night. Why couldn't it
532
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.719
enter the reservoir through a sinkhole that's been created based
533
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:09.719
upon all the volume of water that's now in the
534
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.599
canyon going into the cavern system that we know has
535
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:17.519
water in it, there's water running through it. So it
536
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.320
could be one or the other, it could be both.
537
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.320
I think both possibilities need to be thoroughly looked at
538
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.400
and examined for sure.
539
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.800
Yeah, and it reminds me of all the mystery strange
540
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:34.639
big dog sidings and even big cat sightings that people
541
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.840
have seen that you know, didn't believe that those animals
542
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.920
were even you know, existed in that area, or you know,
543
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:48.159
much larger than any animal that should be in that area.
544
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.760
Are you familiar with any accounts of like strange big
545
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.199
cats or or dogs, anything that's happened recently that you've
546
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:57.559
heard of.
547
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.800
Just recently, the state of Utah said that they found
548
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.159
a pretty large wolf and they're looking in to see
549
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.920
if it's a hybrid or not in that Skinwalker Ranch area.
550
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.840
So that's been the talk of the town. More than
551
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:18.079
likely it's a hybrid that somebody had, but it is
552
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.639
still the first document of these wolves coming back into
553
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.119
the area and obviously it was a little larger than
554
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:30.599
what it should be in regards to others. There have
555
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:41.079
been creatures. So a relative of the Locke family that
556
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:45.559
used to own the ranch before the Myers purchased it,
557
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:54.039
and then the Myers sold it in the mid nineteen nineties,
558
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.360
and then after that, you know, when the book was
559
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.760
written and everything, then it went to Bigelow. A member
560
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.920
of that family stated that when they came back to
561
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:14.880
visit the ranch that they came across a huge raccoon
562
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:19.480
that was on two legs, that was about, I believe
563
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.280
they said, three and a half to four feet high,
564
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.480
walking around on two legs, and it came right up
565
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.360
to them. So that in and of itself, And what's
566
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.760
interesting is they used to have a photo of it.
567
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:34.360
Unfortunately it's been lost in a couple moves that they've
568
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.000
had since then. And I know people are gonna go, oh,
569
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.320
you know, what it could have, should have or where's
570
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.199
the proof? But I I know when I interview people,
571
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.119
I know who's.
572
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:46.719
You know.
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00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.480
I mean, there's obviously that possibility, But these people were legit.
574
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.599
They had nothing to gain from it. They don't want
575
00:38:53.639 --> 00:39:00.239
to be you know, known. They obviously shared that other
576
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
stuff that I just can't talk about. But at some
577
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:11.400
point somebody has to come across something of this nature,
578
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:16.559
some type of cryptid, and they're going to get good evidence.
579
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.519
I don't know if you saw my one presentation where
580
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:26.280
I started using a radar, a KA band thirty four
581
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:31.199
point seven gigahertz police radar gun like I used to
582
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.039
use when I was a police officer, just in between
583
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:40.480
Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch, and it's a location
584
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.800
where i'd come across the UAP. Finally, after multiple times
585
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.679
there came into contact with the UAP again. I used
586
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:55.599
this radar gun and it started to interact with the
587
00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.880
microwave radiation that I was emitting towards. It captured ninety
588
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.239
two seconds of this on video and I'll present some
589
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:08.000
of that at the UFO Mega Conference again. But it's
590
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:10.559
just having to think out of the box and try
591
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:17.119
to start finding ways to capture evidence that's able to
592
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.599
be presented because you know nowadays and I get it,
593
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.039
I mean, you show a video or photos and people
594
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.920
don't believe you because anyone can photoshop anything they want.
595
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.840
And for me to be able to show that in
596
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:36.159
order for radar to hit something and bring back a signal,
597
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.280
and it was showing that it was moving between eleven
598
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.679
and forty four miles per hour. That showed me that
599
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:46.199
it wasn't light, it actually had a surface to the object,
600
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.079
to the UAP and the fact that I used a
601
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.119
laser radar gun right before and it didn't interact at
602
00:40:54.119 --> 00:41:00.360
all with it, that it required this microwave radiation instead,
603
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.119
and it just continuously tried to evade where I was
604
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.920
gunning it. And it was just amazing to have this
605
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:15.960
because again, it's just more evidence to be able to
606
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:21.679
provide and show people. And then, you know, I'm more
607
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.760
than happy I tell people, you know, during the presentation
608
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.760
where the location is, because I'm not always there on
609
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.960
the base, and I absolutely love for other people to
610
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.239
go out and investigate it, research it, and hopefully be
611
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.320
able to you know, get the same data points that
612
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.199
I got, because if we can continuously show that this
613
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.639
can occur over and over again, I mean that's you know,
614
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.920
in science, we're actually able to reproduce the outcome, which
615
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.000
is what we're looking for.
616
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.000
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
617
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.760
And from what I hear, one of the more common
618
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.480
phenomenon that occurs out there is just orbs or lights
619
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.079
that seemed to have intelligence to them that may not
620
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.199
you know, be really high up in the sky, they
621
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.360
could be even closer to their ground. Have you witnessed
622
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.159
any of these or have heard any stories about these
623
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.400
intelligent lights that you know, sometimes interact with people.
624
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.800
I think that's exactly what this UAP was.
625
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.679
It.
626
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.039
So we've been out there and it's in the same
627
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.800
location that I'd seen it several other times. It took
628
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.880
a while for me to finally get it to happen again,
629
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:39.119
but yeah, absolutely there was I mean, for that to
630
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.639
be able to know that it's being tracked and monitored,
631
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.159
it was just amazing. And I have interviewed other people
632
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.400
and that was the reason why I knew to go
633
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:56.880
to that location, because they had seen this same type
634
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:02.960
of orb It comes in two colors in that location,
635
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.199
and sure enough, you know, the very first time I
636
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.039
went out there at night, I captured it, but it
637
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.519
was with one of those GoPros and it's so difficult,
638
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.639
you know, in darkness for it to really show.
639
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:17.440
So it just took a.
640
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.920
Matter of time on figuring out what type of technology
641
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.239
to use in order to get the data that was needed.
642
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.760
One of the darker aspects of this, and sometimes it
643
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.519
doesn't even seem to fit with the phenomenon. Is the
644
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.679
animal mutilations and cattle mutilations. Some of them are very bizarre,
645
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.840
and I've heard of somewhere it seems like the animal
646
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.719
is just like fallen from the sky out of nowhere.
647
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.480
Are you familiar with any cases like this or strange
648
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.679
animal cases? And is it still occurring just as much
649
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.159
as it did you know a few years ago.
650
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.679
So I don't really research or investigate much on the
651
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:10.679
cattle mutilations, and I couldn't tell you what's been happening
652
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.199
or occurring just due to the fact that that's just
653
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.800
just something kind of out of what I want to
654
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.880
research and investigate it. Now, if I come across that
655
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.079
during you know, speaking to somebody, I'll absolutely take that information.
656
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.920
But usually I'd like to turn that over to, you know,
657
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.599
somebody that knows a little bit more about that than
658
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.480
I do. Now that being said, you know, with my
659
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.519
background in anthropology and archaeology, my main reason for being
660
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.679
up in that area initially was not Skinwalker Ranch. I
661
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.599
didn't even know it was there. It was the petroglyphs
662
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.239
and the pictographs that were there. From the Fremont and
663
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.920
the Barrier Canyon style cultures, which were you know, anywhere
664
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:02.639
from eight hundred years ago to thousands of years back.
665
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:08.159
And in one of these petroglyphs, it looks like you
666
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:13.360
have this zoomorphic creature that looks like a deer something
667
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.480
else walking through a portal and then up in the
668
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:24.079
air it's falling out of another portal upside down and
669
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.159
being crushed when it hits the ground. And like you
670
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.000
just said, that kind of fits with what happened at
671
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:38.920
the Garcia property east of Skinwalker Ranch George Knapp paded
672
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.800
in his book, where it looked like cal died by
673
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.000
falling to its depth in the middle of a field.
674
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:53.079
So to have that seemed to be captured thousands of
675
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.280
years ago. And I understand petric glifs pictographs are subjective,
676
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.079
you know, everybody can have a different type of interpretation,
677
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.000
but this one just I mean, you look at it
678
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.800
and then you hear what you just said, and it's
679
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.760
like wow, it almost seems like it's telling a story
680
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.119
of that occurring just a couple thousand years earlier.
681
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.239
Yeah, And speaking of the petroglyphs you just mentioned, there
682
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:22.800
seems to be plenty depictions of these portals, but not
683
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.519
only that, the strange creatures that people witness around these areas,
684
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:33.159
and even UFOs and maybe would look like gray aliens.
685
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.000
Too, right, absolutely, especially on the Unta basin and the
686
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.360
Uinta Mountains. And what's even more interesting is when you
687
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.679
see that, then what you need to do is go
688
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.639
and research the tribes that are in the area and
689
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:51.559
find out about their oral traditions. And you end up
690
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.519
seeing that their oral traditions match a lot of what
691
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.400
are in the petroglyphs, and you get a lot more
692
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.880
detail from that, because I mean that was their way
693
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.960
of passing the stories down, you know, instead of it
694
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.960
being written. It was an oral tradition. It's not mythology
695
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:12.679
like the anthropologists and archaeologists tell us. It's their history.
696
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.920
Now they have a couple of Native American legends that
697
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:24.000
could possibly have an explanation for some of the things
698
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.880
going on there, like curses between the u and the Navajo.
699
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.400
Have you heard of any other native lore or stories
700
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.280
that might kind of explain what's going on with some
701
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:37.199
of this phenomenon.
702
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:45.920
Well, the Ute so recently, a lot of the historical
703
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.039
data that I had been presenting in my talks and presentations,
704
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.920
I learned that some of it was incorrect. I've actually
705
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.880
recently learned that the Utah Territory Indians and the Ute
706
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.480
aren't the same interests. The Shoshone and the Paiute are
707
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.639
the actual Utah Territory Indians that lived in what is
708
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.639
now Utah. The Ute were actually in Wyoming, mostly Colorado
709
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:18.199
down into Arizona. There were a few bands that were
710
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:24.679
in Utah. But what happened was when Lincoln put everybody
711
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.920
on the reservation, they just bunched a ton of different
712
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:34.280
tribes together on a Ute reservation. And unfortunately, these other
713
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.480
bands and tribes became known as the Ute, and they've
714
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.840
lost their history and their culture. And so you have
715
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:48.480
this group called the Timpanogos, which were really Shoshone, but
716
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.079
people keep saying, you know, they're Ute because they're on
717
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.639
the reservation, and they're trying to get that cleared right
718
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.719
now with Congress. But we have to change who we
719
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.719
are really looking at back in history. And I'm finding out,
720
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.039
and it's going to be really great to find out
721
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.039
that there's some interesting pi Unon Shashshoni oral tradition that
722
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.559
may bring a lot of clarity to what's going on
723
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.639
in northeastern Utah that the you just didn't have because
724
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.320
they weren't there. So when we hear this story about
725
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.559
the skin walkers, which are the yaw blushi between the
726
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:28.320
Navajo and the you, we're in the wrong area. You know.
727
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:30.320
Wow, that's firir.
728
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.360
So yeah, there's going to be a lot of changes,
729
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.880
and you know, and that's the great thing about research
730
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.519
is I'm willing to say, hey, I was wrong, but
731
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.239
I want to present what's right and start maybe going
732
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.599
down in avenue because we've been hearing the same thing.
733
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.239
You know, I had in my presentation, I showed photos
734
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.400
of what I thought was y now blushy a skin walker.
735
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.360
Come to find out that those are sacred Navajo shaman
736
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.880
that are are like the best of the best. They
737
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.920
it's only positive energy. And we've been using these photos
738
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.840
and if I were to show you two of them,
739
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.000
you'd be like, oh my gosh, that's a skinlocker. I
740
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.440
thought the same thing. But no, it's embarrassing, you know,
741
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.920
using that, And I want to start changing that. I
742
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.880
want to start showing what's real and what was just
743
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.559
misinterpreted because we didn't understand the culture or the civilization
744
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.199
that was here before us, And I think doing that
745
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.719
is going to open up new avenues and pathways of
746
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:35.400
investigating and hopefully leading to find out what that phenomenon
747
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.360
is or what's causing the phenomenon.
748
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.320
Oh yeah, for sure. And you know, I'm sure it
749
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.559
would be also, you know, really great to talk to
750
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.960
some of the local natives about their own history and
751
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.840
their own thoughts about what's going on. Have you or
752
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.519
any of your colleagues been doing so or or planned to?
753
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:00.960
Yes, a bit, so.
754
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.920
I've enterview That's why I knew that I've been presenting
755
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.920
some wrong information and I want to start clearing that up.
756
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.000
It was from talking not just to the Ute and
757
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:19.039
to the Tippanogos and to other Paiute bands and Shoshone
758
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:24.199
bands and tribes like the Snake Band, but it was
759
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:29.599
talking to the Navajo too. Because the Navajo came to
760
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.280
this part of the United States, they were kind of
761
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.519
late to the game. You know, they don't show up
762
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.639
until about seven hundred years ago, where the Ute and
763
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:41.239
the Shoshone and the Paiute were here a lot longer.
764
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:46.719
But the Navajo had such a larger population and continue
765
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.079
to have a larger population, that there's a lot more
766
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.559
of that oral tradition that's continued and that we still have.
767
00:51:53.599 --> 00:52:01.280
And a lot of the Navajo elders are in contact
768
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:07.000
with those other groups and have that information. That's extremely helpful.
769
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.559
And it's just a matter of you know, they want
770
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.599
to get the right information out to us as well,
771
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.239
and you know, in order to provide that, it's going
772
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:19.480
to have to be in both directions, and that's what
773
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:21.119
we're working towards right now.
774
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.639
Very cool, and we were talking earlier. You also told
775
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:29.119
me that you're working on a new book. Could you
776
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.400
tell us a little bit about that.
777
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.039
Yeah, So, like I always like to write fiction, but
778
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.719
there's a lot of truth in the fiction. I think
779
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.079
it's some of the best way to present it. It's
780
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:47.159
called The Giant and the Golden Underworld, So it pretty
781
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.239
much tells you after we've just talked. It takes place
782
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.960
in the Unta Basin and mountains. It's going to go
783
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:01.480
into real history of the Native American from North America
784
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:07.679
down through meso America. It's going to introduce history of
785
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.519
the giants that has been collected. I've been you know,
786
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.719
collecting their migration patterns now for about thirteen fourteen years,
787
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.400
and it's going to go into the real oral traditions
788
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.519
that have been talked about by the Payute, the Shoshoni,
789
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.320
the Ute, the discussed the Fremont culture and the Barrier
790
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:32.519
Canyon style. Who they became instead of disappearing like we thought,
791
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.199
they actually migrated southward and became the Aztec. And then
792
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.079
these other groups like the ho Ho Kom that we're
793
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:46.280
in Arizona. You know, they may have originated out of
794
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.719
Mexico and come northward, but then on this migration south
795
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.800
they joined again and went back down south to become
796
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.760
the Aztec. And there's this this back and forth of
797
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.559
the toll Tech having come up and become the Native
798
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.159
Americans of North America and then this move back. And
799
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:08.639
you know, it deals a lot with the weather patterns,
800
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.559
and you know volcanoes that erupted in thousand and sixty
801
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.000
four here in Arizona that wiped out a lot of
802
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.199
territory that very few people know about. So it's just interesting.
803
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.840
In my book, I like to add a story to it.
804
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I like to make it teenager friendly. So it's going
805
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.960
to cater to about the ages of twelve to eighteen,
806
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.239
but anybody can learn the history through it, and it's
807
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.840
just I hope it's a good read that people enjoy
808
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.239
it the storyline and also they see the history, and plus,
809
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.400
you know what, it's a good way for me to
810
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.119
leave hints and clues about what I can't talk about
811
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.320
because of the NBA's or something like that in the fiction.
812
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:57.039
So it's just a matter of you hopefully researching what's
813
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.519
in there and you know coming away what the truth
814
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:01.920
that's hidden inside of it.
815
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:05.159
That's great. And you said you've been looking a lot
816
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.480
into giants and their migration patterns. That's very interesting. But
817
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:11.639
when it comes to the giants, it depends on I
818
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.079
guess who you're talking to. Some will tell you that
819
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.039
they were pure malevolent, that they were cannibals, that they
820
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:19.719
ate humans. Some will tell you that you know, it
821
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.239
goes both ways. There was, you know, some that were
822
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.159
good and some that were bad. Or they have some
823
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:31.559
that intermingled with humans and created hybrids. What do you
824
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.800
think about that? Do you think that there was a
825
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:38.199
whole spectrum of giants on either side?
826
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:44.079
Yeah, it's all three. So it looks like the giants
827
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:48.039
that were here obviously originated from elsewhere. They have a
828
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.719
lot of similarities with those that were on the island
829
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:55.519
of Sardinia. You can see it in the oral tradition
830
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.920
presented and in the petroglyphs. You have malevolent, you have benevolent.
831
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.840
You have those that intermingled with humans because there was
832
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.920
a dcline, there was a major catastrophic event, and you know,
833
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.599
you took what you could get. So you have different
834
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.800
types of giants, just like there's different humans on this planet,
835
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.400
you know, different height. You have a group that's called
836
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.840
the c take Caa that were supposedly redheaded, cannibalistic giants.
837
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.159
I'm not sure if the cannibal part was really accurate.
838
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.559
I think what happened was there was a group that
839
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:39.559
were headhunters. They did take heads for trophies, and that
840
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.440
probably upset a lot of the tribes that they were
841
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.639
taking those heads from. So in order to you know,
842
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.000
get rid of those giants, they had to bring a
843
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.360
bunch of bands and tribes together. So they said, hey,
844
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.440
you know they're eating us, what better way to you know,
845
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.119
go fight to get that to a curse. So you
846
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.960
got to really dig a little deeper. But yeah, absolutely
847
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.000
a lot of them were headhunters that you can see
848
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.880
that in what's out there in the desert southwest when
849
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.599
you look at the pictographs and petroglyphs, and then you
850
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.920
have height differences depending on where you're at. They were
851
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.679
absolutely taller in Mesoamerica compared to what was here. So
852
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:26.360
we're talking about an older generation being in Mexico, current
853
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.719
day Mexico than what was up here because there was
854
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:35.559
a reduction in height over time based upon less people
855
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.480
to breed with, and then they had to intermingle and
856
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.440
that just reduced them. So when the Spaniards were here,
857
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.199
they talk about seeing these Native Americans walking around that
858
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.199
were seven feet tall to about seven and a half
859
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:52.480
feet tall, you know, so, and some of them were
860
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.599
blonde haired or light brown haired, white skin. So you're
861
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:02.119
absolutely right. It's just a gamut variations, just like there
862
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:03.440
are with Homo sapien.
863
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.000
That's really cool. Now, I want to talk to close
864
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.840
out on about the alien artifacts that you're looking into.
865
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.400
You know, you mentioned unfortunately many of them are fake,
866
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.760
but what about those that aren't. Could you maybe talk
867
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:24.159
a little bit about what ones are the most the
868
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.880
best candidates for being authentic for you?
869
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.800
Absolutely, So, we have four locations in Mexico where we
870
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.400
definitely know that these artifacts are coming out from the
871
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:40.280
largest amount of those are from Auelos de Alisco, which
872
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:48.159
is in north central Mexico. I have looked at about
873
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.880
two hundred of these artifacts. I've actually purchased several of
874
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.719
them which are fake. And what occurred was about eighty
875
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.920
five ninety years ago. The these artifacts were in those
876
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.719
cities and they were found, and these were more than
877
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:13.119
likely legitimate finds of what looks to be anthropomorphic creatures
878
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:17.519
that you and I would probably call a gray or
879
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.920
some type of other alien. And over time between that
880
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.559
eighty ninety year history up until today, we had individuals
881
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.760
that realized there was this potential to make a lot
882
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:38.159
of money by selling these as legitimate artifacts, and they
883
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:45.159
presented carbon fourteen dating from a couple universities and private
884
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.880
companies that were kind of shady because nobody saw how
885
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:54.519
it was excavated and brought out of the ground. Organic
886
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:58.679
glue is not a good way to test for carbon fourteen.
887
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.519
It's better to have of bone or wood, which can
888
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.840
still be You know, you can get a ten thousand
889
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.920
year old piece of wood and carve into it and
890
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.800
it would come back ten thousand years old.
891
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:10.960
Well in the.
892
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:15.960
Glue, you there is hydrocarbon in the glue, Well, any
893
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:18.679
hydrocarbon is going to return the date of at least
894
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:23.480
five six thousand years old, because that's just what it is.
895
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:31.880
So it became such a lucrative business, and unfortunately that
896
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.000
area is heavily run by the cartel that's there. That
897
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:43.960
I would say nine hundred and ninety nine out of it,
898
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.000
well even more than that, maybe maybe one out of
899
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:53.320
ten thousand artifacts are legit. And those artifacts that are
900
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.360
legitimate were mostly the ones that were found eighty ninety
901
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:01.360
years ago and have now made it into the black market.
902
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.960
And it's you know, it's not even black market because
903
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.639
Mexico doesn't consider them artifacts, so they don't care if
904
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.000
you buy and sell them. You know, you can, you
905
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:16.039
can purchase them online if you want. But there's two
906
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:20.679
types from the you know, there's three classes or three categories.
907
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.480
The first that I'm talking about is fake, absolutely fake,
908
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:25.280
and that's what a majority of them are. But there's
909
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.880
two other categories. The other category that this is an
910
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:35.000
ancient artifact from at least nine to eleven thousand years
911
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:42.559
old minimum before the Great Deluge. The other the second
912
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:47.679
category that we haven't discussed is that there are artifacts
913
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:53.199
out there that are imitations of even older artifacts, so
914
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.559
they're a copy of an original, but those copies were
915
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:01.800
made three to five to six thousand years ago. Go wow,
916
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:09.199
and they're yeah so. And it's very difficult because they
917
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:14.039
use so much current technology to fake this that you
918
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.400
really have to go through a gamut of different types
919
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:22.039
of testing, especially under a microscope. There I can look
920
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.280
at an artifact now and I can almost tell you.
921
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.440
I can tell you that I have seen four different
922
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.119
types of artists that I'm making these because I know
923
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.639
how they carve or etch the side of the stone
924
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.119
or how. But they use to cut into the rock surface.
925
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.239
So it's getting easier for me to tell the fakes
926
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.400
because they have just a few people making them that
927
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:58.639
are so good at it. And in the new presentations
928
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:03.440
that I'm put together starting in March and moving forward,
929
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:07.280
I want to let the public know because a lot
930
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.760
of people are being taken for a pretty decent amount
931
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.079
of money and believe that they have a legitimate artifact
932
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.840
and just a bunch of crap. Because you feel bad
933
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.519
for them, So if I can at least educate them
934
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.000
and don't get me wrong. Out of all the ones
935
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.800
I've looked, I've seen three that I believe are one
936
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.639
hundred percent legit. I think two of them are ancient,
937
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.960
and the third one is one of those older copies,
938
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.880
which is just as amazing because you're talking about thirty
939
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.920
five hundred years ago.
940
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:40.480
Yeah.
941
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.559
Wow, that is very amazing. Well, I'm very much looking
942
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.760
forward to that. I'm looking forward to your presentation and
943
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:50.079
all the work that you're going to be coming out with.
944
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:53.800
If the audience wants to find out more about you,
945
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:56.800
what's the best way that they can do? So, website,
946
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:58.320
social media, all that good stuff.
947
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.599
Sure, yeah, let me look up here. I'm gonna read it.
948
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:06.039
It's you can get find me at www dot YouTube,
949
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:13.280
dot com, forward slash c forward slash James Keenan Giants
950
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.239
and Paranormal.
951
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:21.440
Nice and that you got any social or website as well.
952
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:27.840
Yeah, you can follow me or contact me on Facebook
953
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:35.360
and that is my on James Period Keenan Period seven
954
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:40.079
seven to one On Facebook and on Instagram, I go
955
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.320
by Dark Shadows and Catastrophe, which is the name of
956
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:44.440
my first book.
957
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:51.039
Awesome, well, James, that was fantastic, as usual, looking forward
958
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.679
to your presentation in Vegas and we'll definitely be talking
959
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.320
again soon.
960
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:58.679
Thanks Chris, thanks for having me back.
961
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:02.679
Of course, next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
962
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.360
talk again tomorrow. Today I want to welcome Peter Champeau,
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Order of author of Gaya Matrix, Moon Rivers and Arc
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of Tero. He took a simple observation of coherent geometry
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in the New England landscape based on natural and cultural features,
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and developed it into a geo metaphysical art science called giography,
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the Study of our Living Earth. His bubbling planet wide
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discoveries introduced earth cell, earth rings, lay lines, and the
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organic Earth grid to the wonderment that are the Earth mysteries. Peter, welcome,
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How are you doing today?
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I'm doing great, Chris, great show.
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It's great to have you on. I really love discussing
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the hidden history on our planet, especially when it comes
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to things like Earth energy grids, lay lines, and the
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ancients understanding of sacred geometry and really megalithic construction methods.
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But your work really goes beyond many of the commonly
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heard theories about this knowledge that I've heard. I'd like
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to know what was it got that got you started
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down this path looking into this stuff.
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Well back when I was born, you know, literally I
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was dug out of a pile of rocks. Dinosaur footprints
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were discovered, So the living earth was you know, part
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of my life from day one. My father was a
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made tires, so our family's money was this circular thing,
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our church was this circular thing. And you know, just
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kind of made an impression. I guess, Uh it's uh,
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it came out of my work with stone. With stone
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and my name, Peter Shampoo means rock of the field,
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so you know, in my teens and you know, who
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am I? What am we going to do? What's my
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meaning in life? It looked at my name. It came
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up with well, rocks and field, and I found Stonehenge
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pretty quickly after that, and I was often running doing
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lay line studies of England and reading everything I could
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on that. Uh. But uh, you know what I've done
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is taken all that, all that that knowledge that's been
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a cue by uh, you know, people back engineering all
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of those megalithic sites and the Great Pyramid and you know,
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and everything else and and and trying to use those
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tools as a method to go forward into the future.
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So we can have this symbiotic future with with kind
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of nested in the planet. You know, often when we
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see uh, you know, like Jodie Foster, you know when
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she when she made that first contact, it was coming
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into these civilizational areas, they were always circular, you know,
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kind of like nesting into the planet. So so I've discovered,
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you know, it's it's there in plain sight. It's it's
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nothing hidden or or forbidden. It's just you got to
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look at it with your eyes kind of splinny, right.
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But you know there are rings everywhere.
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In oh some are more some are like rings of cities,
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and cities coalless circularly.
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So I think what's going on is that there is
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a a kind of an upwelling of energy from the
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Earth itself that bubbles out onto the surface, and that
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that surface is a membrane of a cell. And that
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cell membrane is our collective consciousness. So there are aggregate
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emotion or aggregate mental body, however you want to look
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at it. So we so we have these earth rings
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that that appear to be very similar to an integral
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membrane protein on a cell, and that's the that's the
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conduit for the exchange of information between the inside of
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the cell into the nucleus and the outside environment. You
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know what's needed to be exchanged, and you know, you know,
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given off or taken in or you know this type
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of thing. So there are always signals being received via
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these centric forms around the planet. And often these centric
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forms have a a geospiritual center of that circle that's granted.
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So those sacred sites in the context of a cell
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needing information and care working at sacred sites is an
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essential component in a good stewardship of the planet. So, uh,
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I propose we pay all the indigenous people to go
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out there and do ceremony, right, all the.
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Very good now for for a little bit of a
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better understanding of what these these kind of earth rings
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are and how the ancients had an understanding of you know,
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what they were used for. And you said they had
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sacred attributes for some of the megalithic sites. How do
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you think the ancients came upon this knowledge? First of all?
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Uh m uh, the spaceman came down and gave him
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some books.
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According to ancient aliens.
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Maybe, yeah, it's it's just an emanation of nature. And
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if you look for it, you see it every where.
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And that emanation is based on the aneagram, which is
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is like a tempo within creation. The nine, you know,
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three hundred and sixty, you know, breaks down to nine
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and all this stuff nine nine nine. So this this
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pattern of nine that I found in these Earth rings
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and a radiant kind of forms. I might be going
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up track here, but lassue me and if I do, please.
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Yeah, you're fine.
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But these radiant forms mimic the interior of the planet.
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So I was finding these forums and I had a question,
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what are they? And then a friend sent me this
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this diagram of of an Earth energy works that he
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had housed out in Medford, Oregon, and this this vortex
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had had a pyramid in it, so, you know, kind
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of implied to it. Whatever. So there was this this
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certain radio pattern that was discovered within the vortex itself.
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So those same ring patterns matched the ring patterns I
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was finding on the surface, and it kind of clicked,
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and I said, well, I've seen that somewhere. And indeed
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there was this USGS model of the interior of the
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planet that had that same ring pattern to that, And
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in later years I found that the same ring pattern
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is exhibited in the human eye. It's in the simantics
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of did redo? You know that the sound waves that
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did you redo? Is make So it's this emanation that
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that's you know for the sensitive you can feel in
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a vortex. So so with Stonehenge being an Earth energy vortex,
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that they raged uh the stones to match that vortex,
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to amplify that energy so that they could uh fertilize
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the fields and and make make crops grow better. That's
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the only reason to devote that kind of prodigious work
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on rolling rocks around if I've moved myself, but you know,
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it has to be an important reason. And that's the
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only thing I can think of is grounding sky nitrogen
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via megaliths. So in the bigger the megaliths, the more
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the more charge it would have, especially on a l
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a line. So they often are shown, uh you know,
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like in certain you know, like solar storms for instance.
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Uh you the megaliths will often hum and put off
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a blue light you know, and uh the old uh
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you're a go off in historical tangents, but the uh
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uh And in exploring the mounds along the straight tracks
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of England, they found that these these toots, these these
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you know, like these these earthen mounds often had chromleches
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on it or these uh certain style of stacking stones.
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And inside the the you know, undisturbed earth was this
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rock that was melted. So it appears as though that
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there was this over charge of the delay line system
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at one point and it you know, blew out, I
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mean to to melt rock. It's you know, five thousand degrees.
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I think really uh kind of a bioelectric power system. There.
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A lot of the lay lines of England are oriented
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towards Atlantis, so I suspect that there might might be
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some kind of tulluric exchange of frequency energy between you know,
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the Atlantis is uh earth based technologies that they employed
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with the Great Pyramid and such.
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Now you said it's pointed towards Atlantis by Atlantis. You
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know what area were you referring to?
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Well, I'm just going with Plato. He said, you go
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through the gates of Hercules and take a left, and
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out there to the west is uh is Atlantis, and
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right there is the Azores and the and for a
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uh something the size of Atlantis, which incidentally also the
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design that the quoted design of Atlantis also matched these
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earth ringe batterns, so that Atlantis was in a vibrational,
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harmonic symbiotic shape form with the planet. But the problem was,
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you know, like there was a lot of telluric energy
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to harves us off the mid Atlantic Rift where the
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a'sars are. But you know, so you know that baby
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was humming, you.
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Know, yeah, wow.
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But uh, you know it cracks open every now and
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then and the mid Atlantic rift opens up and it
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goes Atlantis. So the main lay line of England points
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right right to the Azores. So that's why I go.
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How important were some of these megalithic construction sites when
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it comes to alignments of stars and uh, you know,
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alignments to the solstices and different satellites in different constellations.
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How does this all connect to deconstruction with lay lines
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and earth rings.
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I'm not sure if they're directly connected or I haven't
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seen them directly connected. There there is a connection of
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the sun cycles, sun and and and galactic cycles, so
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the lay lines fluctuate. I don't know. Maybe this I
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don't know, this came in as uh. This is the
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work of Corey uh Rory Duff roryduff dot com. He's
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he's an English geomancer and dowser. What he's found is
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that there's a waveform, galactic waveform that undulates every you know,
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the undulation we go through every twelve thousand years, and
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we're heading into that. So there's this increase in light.
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And because of that, the lay lines are are are
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moving on around h h and and and then every
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every time we actually go through a solar sheet, the
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lay lines come into coherence, they move together, otherwise they're
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they're moving in a kind of serpentine produce this kind
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of thing.
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Uh.
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Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. Now you in your email
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you mentioned pyramidal dysfunction. What exactly is this and how
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does this tie in?
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Yeah, this is something that really kind of bothers me here.
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Uh kind of an alert alert. Uh, A lot of
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work has been done on it. But the Great Pyramid
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is the center of one such earth ring and uh
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it's actually a moon ring. There's a lot of rings
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coming out of that. But uh it has this uh
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this arc, if you will, we'll go from big to small. Yeah.
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Uh so you have oh jeez, where do I start
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with the pyramid? Uh at the point you know.
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Started the smallest point right.
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Uh So the Pyramid, where it's located, is it's there
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are a lot of to tell if there's an if
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it's an Earth matrix, things point to it, like coastlines
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point to it. In the case of North America, you know,
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the center of North American tectonic plate was pointed to
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by the coast of Maine, by the Appalachian Mountains, by
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the river patterns, by Manhattan Island. Uh, they all pointed
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to the center point of the North American tectonic plate.
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So over in Africa that you know, you have all
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these coastlines and they all point to the Great Pyramid.
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The delta of the Great Pyramid is this fan, this
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very regular fan that's been the same way for eons,
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and the point of the fan goes right to the
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Great Pyramid. And the edge, if you take the edge
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of the Great Pyramids, you know, project the edges that
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goes out and defines that fan. So the fan is
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like itself, is part of that tempo complex of the
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Great Pyramid. So the Great Pyramid is this point that's
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just sticking up a little bit above the sand, but
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the rest of it goes through the entire planet, and
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you know, it's part of the whole geometric kind of
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Mercabo stability field to the planet to maintain the jet
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the twenty three point five degree angle of the ecliptic,
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which is a ritual that they would do every year,
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they raising the jet and such. So, so you have
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this this pyramid that is you know, the angle of
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the pyramid is the bonding angle of water. I don't
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know why anybody doesn't. You know, this is really obvious,
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but nobody talks about it. And so so it bonds
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to the biasphere. It bonds and it's a consciousness men
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as well, you know, top down economics. Uh, you know,
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we got to go through the big Guy in order
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to get the God. You know, you have to you
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know it filtered leadership stuff, organizational things that they like
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to you know, control people. So you know, I mean
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pyramidal structures, royalty all that, it all is being emanated
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out of the Great Pyramid, and it's and it's being
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emanated via the the the lay lines that it sits on.
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So the Great Pyramid is located in a place where
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it's the greatest land mass is marked as a central
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point with the whole planet. So if you follow that
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X marks the spot that is the Great Pyramid, and
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01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.399
just imagine those as lay lines and taking them out
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01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:21.319
over the planet, you'll find some very concerning things, you know,
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01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:24.640
genocide and such. You know, fifteen million people here, this
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01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:30.560
kind of thing that happening, you know, the darfour Armenia
1201
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:35.079
and up there in Syria right now, and it's just
1202
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:40.039
this it's kind of like a bloody courage. So when
1203
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:44.239
you project these lines out, one of them goes through
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01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:49.600
Mecca in the southeast. So it suggests that, you know,
1205
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.560
it's so exact that it suggests that the Great Pyramid
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01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:56.800
in Mecca are part of the same temple complex that
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01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.199
the ancients had set up because that site was an
1208
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:05.199
ancient moon god ess. You know, the moon got us.
1209
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:10.760
Her name was Allah. Yeah, so the one god that
1210
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:18.399
was Muhammad chose to uh you know, represent all of
1211
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:20.680
them together, you know. So they have this rock there
1212
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:25.239
and everything. But it just in that same So there's
1213
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:28.119
this beat, if you will, a pulse that's set by
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01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:31.600
that radius from the Great Pyramid to uh.
1215
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.760
So in a way, it kind of hornesses human consciousness
1216
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:39.920
and emanates through the planet through these lay lines in
1217
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:40.960
a way, is what you're saying.
1218
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.239
Yeah, there's a there is a kind of like uh
1219
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:49.359
who in who out kind of thing going on where
1220
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:53.239
the information the pyramids taking information via its sides and
1221
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:59.039
then it's uh, it's transmitted out its edges. So it's
1222
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.239
like it's whatever the collective emotion is around it gets
1223
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:05.399
projected out out into the you know, like a like
1224
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:10.039
a donut field that's has it that that's what's going on.
1225
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:14.359
When you have a pyramid and an obelist, it generates
1226
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:18.880
a relational donut sphere going on there.
1227
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.880
That is very interesting. Now what you go ahead.
1228
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:29.520
Just to complete that ring. The Mecca ring has Baghdad
1229
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:34.479
and Istanbul arms so the Constantinople in the center of
1230
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:38.760
the g F faith of so that you know, you
1231
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:43.600
have this ring of Islamic faith right around the Great Pyramids.
1232
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.000
And if you project a uh you know, like one
1233
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:52.600
of the lines goes out and goes through Fukushima, so
1234
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.319
that type of genocidal stuff, and another one goes over
1235
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:01.239
here through the through the US, which I don't know
1236
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.279
if you have a lot of Texas listeners.
1237
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:06.119
But I'm in vacation in Texas right now.
1238
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:11.079
But there's a lay line that comes from the Great
1239
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:17.279
Pyramid down the Saint Lawrence seaway. Uh, right by kind
1240
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.319
of like down the corridor Austin San Antonio border there
1241
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:23.840
that you know, kind of up just up a little
1242
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:26.720
bit up on the hill there away from it that
1243
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:32.159
quarter and uh that goes down to Durango, Mexico where
1244
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.199
the tip of the pyramid comes out. So you know,
1245
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.359
when you projected, if you project the pyramid from you know,
1246
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.359
Cairo through the planet, where that edge point comes out
1247
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:49.319
is down in Durango, Mexico. And Durango, Mexico is where
1248
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:51.720
all you know, drug cartels are. You know, that's the
1249
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.720
kind of golden Triangle of Mexico right now.
1250
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:58.840
Do you think all the pyramids that are around the
1251
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:02.840
planet had similar are types of purposes?
1252
01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:09.000
I think it was a control grid you know, you
1253
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.680
you that was in place and and it's modeled after
1254
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:20.119
this one. Uh, and it works so good that they said,
1255
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.439
well let's let's let's try it over here for you know,
1256
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:27.880
our purposes. But it works so good because it was
1257
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:35.159
so tied in with the geophysical, spiritual, bioelectric part you know, water,
1258
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:38.279
you know, it had every you know measure, it was
1259
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:42.960
just a perfect resonated for for all that. But when
1260
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:48.600
it lost its skin. Uh, it really shifted in a
1261
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.319
big way. It's it's it's it got very degenerated and
1262
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:54.520
that I think the dark Lords took over at that point.
1263
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.119
But it's been quite a fight to to kick them
1264
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:01.199
out of there and working on it for a few years,
1265
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:06.640
but it really needs to be rebuilt. That's done something
1266
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.600
of that nature to it.
1267
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.319
Now, you mentioned the the significance of water and also
1268
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:14.800
sacred geometry of water. I was hoping you could talk
1269
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.079
a little bit about that and how that connects to
1270
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:17.800
this as well.
1271
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:23.199
Yeah, everything everything's water. It's it's all everything water based.
1272
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:28.159
And it starts out in the nebula where where you know,
1273
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:31.399
after a sun explodes, there's a nebula phase and then
1274
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.760
it turns into a solar system and and then nemeula phase.
1275
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:39.840
You're there, there's you know that typically nebula is generating
1276
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:44.600
sixty sixty oceans an hour or something like that out there,
1277
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:50.159
and that that water coalesces, bonds together, that collects dust.
1278
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:54.359
The dust and the water generates gravity. The gravity fields
1279
01:27:54.399 --> 01:28:00.279
then start to spin because of you know, opposing magnetics. Uh,
1280
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:04.319
eventually the sun is sparked and then you have this
1281
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:11.399
this beautiful solar system happening, and uh where was it going?
1282
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.000
I got lost in outer space there.
1283
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.439
We're just talking about sacred geometry of water.
1284
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.439
Uh, yeah, it's a galagy. So so water, h if
1285
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:23.920
you take the bonding angle of water, ideal bond is
1286
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:28.960
one oh four point five, But if it fluctuates from
1287
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.800
ninety to one hundred and twenty depending upon the quality
1288
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.960
and kind and whether it's heavy water, light water and
1289
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.640
all different stuff and distilled water, it's all has a
1290
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:43.720
different bonding angle to it. So uh that that one
1291
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:47.560
oh four point five is considered the you know, the best.
1292
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:54.279
So the Great Pyramid has a one o three point
1293
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:57.279
five angle to its, you know, double sides if you will,
1294
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.920
from the top. You know, so that that that angle
1295
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:04.600
is all but the same angle as water, especially in
1296
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:07.439
the fluctuation. You know the fudge factor if you will,
1297
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:13.600
with water. But water within that that geometric, Uh I
1298
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:16.960
sent you a graphic of that. But within that geometric
1299
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:21.680
there you can find or you can generate. The vesica
1300
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.239
pisces are the the Ichtheus. You know that little Jesus
1301
01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:29.800
Fishency and yeah, so that that's the Ichtheus. But you know,
1302
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:33.199
so it's up on edge. It's generated by two points
1303
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:40.439
generating common arcs and uh, but the whole arrangement with
1304
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.960
where everything touches and meats and it generates this uh
1305
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:51.359
haptagon a pentagon. And then of course the vesica pisces
1306
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:56.920
does all the two two, four, six eight, you know nines,
1307
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.560
that does all those kinds of things. So it's it's
1308
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:03.760
it's a it's the seed molecule. First sacred geometry. So
1309
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:10.920
anything water touches, it generates the geometry. People volcanoes, patterns
1310
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:14.640
of volcanoes. Uh, you know that kind of thing. So
1311
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.720
it's holy, you know, it's like it's just like this
1312
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:24.399
miraculous stuff that just transforms matter. And so we have
1313
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.720
down below, underneath the two hundred miles down we have
1314
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:31.720
this stuff called ringuidite layers. It's four ocean's worth of
1315
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:34.880
water is down there, and every volcano that happens, we
1316
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.479
have this upwelling of water that comes with it. And
1317
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:44.239
so so where the volcanoes are actually upwelling on the
1318
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:50.159
African continent, we have a five volcanic vents that that
1319
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:56.880
cohere in a in a pentagon pentagonal form, just out
1320
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:00.000
of nature. So it's God's you know, it's sacred because
1321
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:05.840
as it's it's generated by nature, not drawn, not not contrived.
1322
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:11.520
It's just you know, like a flowers.
1323
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:15.680
You broke up for a second, what did you say.
1324
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:21.199
I said, usually just in simple polygons, it's it's not
1325
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:23.760
you know, when you speak of nature. That's a lot
1326
01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:27.319
of you know, the platonic solids have been given a
1327
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:33.840
lot of uh teleplay as the model for the lay
1328
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:35.960
lines of the planet Earth.
1329
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:36.600
Uh.
1330
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.479
You know the quote Earth grid you see on ancient
1331
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:45.199
aliens and such as. It's a really excellent teaching model,
1332
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:50.119
geographic teaching model that was developed. But you know, lay
1333
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:54.119
lines I don't feel I haven't found have corresponded to
1334
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:59.920
that particular model. Sometimes you find parallel lines, but it's
1335
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.319
it's it's you know, it's it's become the ubiquitous form
1336
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:05.920
and an accepted form of what ley lines are. But
1337
01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:11.199
to me, it's so regular it looks like a jail cell. Right.
1338
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.960
It might be something that that they're trying to, you know,
1339
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.720
get into the consciousness of the people who are trying
1340
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.319
to transform things and kind of trap their consciousness in
1341
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:26.840
that way. That's that's been discussed that various websites that
1342
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.119
you know that the tree of or the flower of
1343
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.279
life geometry is like a mental trap.
1344
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:36.760
Wow, that's really interesting.
1345
01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:37.239
Now.
1346
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.079
Something else you wrote to me in your email was
1347
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:44.880
about the glile brain and the found missing ninety What
1348
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:45.199
is this?
1349
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:47.000
Yeah, that's a fun one.
1350
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:47.920
Yeah, what is it?
1351
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.880
Yeah, that's uh, that was in a salon. We're studying
1352
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:53.479
the gli old book brain, a gaggle of We have
1353
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.039
gaggles of giggling gleia all through our bodies. Every every
1354
01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:01.840
neuron has has nine attendant glea cells. So the cottage
1355
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:05.680
cheese in our brain is mostly this. This, uh, this
1356
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:15.439
is glio and it operates on on calcium ions where
1357
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:18.840
where blood is, you know, plasma and iron and all
1358
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:21.239
that other stuff. You know, this glio you know, and
1359
01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:24.119
drink your milk, you know, because you need this calcium
1360
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:31.000
and uh so, uh that's like when they say, oh,
1361
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.399
you only use ten percent of our brain, they're they're
1362
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:37.880
they're talking about the ten percent of the neurons, but
1363
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.199
they're kind of excluding all this this gray matter as
1364
01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:45.560
being kind of worthless fluff like insulation or something. But
1365
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.800
that that's that's communicating via frequency. It's faster than the
1366
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:53.279
speed of light. Frequency is faster than light. So neurons
1367
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:58.119
work on light and and glia work on frequency. So
1368
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:01.600
we have our head, our our heart, and our stomach
1369
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:05.880
all you know, high concentrates of glas cells in those
1370
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:10.800
three places, so those are our three brains, right, But
1371
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.479
there's glee all you know, there's glea with every neurons,
1372
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:19.159
you know, fingertips whatever. So that's the you know, this
1373
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.760
this one to ninety percent. So you know, we look around, well,
1374
01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.680
what else, well we have we have dark matter is
1375
01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:29.000
you know, on the other side of the fres scale
1376
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.680
where it's no we only know what ten percent of
1377
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:33.760
the matter is and everything else is great. We have
1378
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.439
gravity for ninety percent more matter, but it's not there,
1379
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:39.600
so we call it dark matter. So that that's that's
1380
01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:45.319
like the glia of space, you know, being attended to
1381
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.479
these light forms, you know, these electron suns. So it's
1382
01:34:52.159 --> 01:34:54.960
and and then the other one is we have u
1383
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:59.159
we're all using ten percent of our DNA. Yeah, all
1384
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:08.239
the rest have been you know, yeah, so it's the
1385
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:11.079
same thing. So it's my it's my sense is that
1386
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:15.479
we use our DNA via our frequency attenuators at leocels
1387
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:21.000
and communicate with all there is all the other you know,
1388
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:24.840
like the dark matter. So we're receiving information in that
1389
01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:28.600
way all the time, you know, and are that ninety
1390
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:33.000
percent of you know, you know it's DNA. If you
1391
01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.840
if you stretch it out, you take the aggregate length
1392
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:40.439
of the average human body, it goes there's twelve billion
1393
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.720
miles of the stuff in US. So that that is
1394
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.880
like that is shoot, that is one antenna system that
1395
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:52.199
you can you know, connect with the whole heliosphere of
1396
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.600
the planet of the Sun. You know, the Sun reaches
1397
01:35:54.680 --> 01:36:00.800
twelve billion miles. So it's that kind of expanded you know, centeredness,
1398
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:06.000
but connectedness. And I mean that that that that's access
1399
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:09.680
through the glio body. That's that's the heart, that's the
1400
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:12.560
heart mind if you will be use it. It takes
1401
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:17.760
in the resonant frequencies around you that that you don't
1402
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:21.279
it may not be audible, so so that the glio
1403
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:25.800
body is what picks up on whatever.
1404
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.960
Yeah. So I mean basically there's a connection not only
1405
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.760
to each person, not only to us and the planet,
1406
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.960
but to us and the universe. Really everything is has
1407
01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:40.960
this kind of consciousness connection, right, and.
1408
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:49.680
To say otherwise would be a blasphemy I would think, so, yeah, yeah,
1409
01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:51.600
we get a little sip here.
1410
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:56.159
Sure, yeah. Now I want to talk about the history
1411
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.600
of the cultural use of stone versus what we're doing
1412
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:04.800
now with our building methods in construction, and how we
1413
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:10.319
can't even reproduce much of the things that the ancients
1414
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:13.640
did when it came to megalithic construction. Uh, why do
1415
01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.439
you think that is and what was the difference? What
1416
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:18.960
were the how were they using stone? How are the
1417
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:19.840
ancients using this?
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01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.800
Well, this kind of leads right into the from the
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01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:31.359
gliod conversation, leads into that conversation because the planet being
1420
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.159
you know, we're in the image and likeness of the
1421
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:39.520
planet and all that is planet also has glia and
1422
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.199
it's made of calcium, so we have all these like
1423
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:46.239
Texas has made up a lot of calcium deposits, So
1424
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:51.039
that's planet Ganglia. And you go and you go around
1425
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:59.359
the planet, you find like the south of England limestone, Egypt,
1426
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:05.079
limes stone, Jerusalem not limestone south of France lane. I
1427
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:08.800
mean all these places that are sacred sites there have
1428
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:17.359
that planet Leo, that attenuating frequency of limestone helping them.
1429
01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:24.560
So in the past, Uh, you chicken in the egg,
1430
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:29.279
I mean, maybe civilization arose just because of the existence
1431
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:36.720
of limestone, because it's easy building material. But I tend
1432
01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.079
to think that there's a certain you within limestone. There's
1433
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:44.159
this underlayment of water, so when you got underground water,
1434
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:47.399
there's a lot of var texas and lay lines associated
1435
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:49.920
with it. So there's more of a breathing going on
1436
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.600
within limestone, where granted it's just you know, it's like
1437
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:57.439
it sends off the electrical current, but you can't really
1438
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:03.439
you know, bathe in it. Uh. So Uh, in the
1439
01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:08.920
ancient times, they recognize that if you use the canons
1440
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:15.359
of sacred geometry, the canons of nature in construction, uh,
1441
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:19.760
you would be creating a building that's in harmony with
1442
01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:23.359
the planet, and it would actually, you know, everything would
1443
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.039
be magnified. You know, that the quality of space would
1444
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:31.159
be magnified, that the Earth would be magnified, the culture
1445
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.680
itself would be magnified. So they spent a lot of
1446
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.199
energy in creating temples that were you know, really hummet
1447
01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:44.039
and tuned to these these sacred cannons. Uh. As we
1448
01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:47.920
went away from that, uh, there's been this loosening up
1449
01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:51.119
of the connection between culture and matter. You know, the
1450
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:55.439
uh Earth, as Earth has become a commodity that we've
1451
01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:00.600
become very parasitic off of it. H it's kind of
1452
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:07.960
floating on the surface, but you know, rockets, rockets, rockets,
1453
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.039
heavy stuff, and it's nice drapery now, but it doesn't
1454
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.159
really it doesn't have to serve any of its noble
1455
01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:19.119
purposes as it did in the old times. But cultures
1456
01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:23.720
that that did I complete that thought. Cultures that did
1457
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.760
follow those sacred cannons in the construction tended to have
1458
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:33.960
like a thousand year runs, where those that didn't were
1459
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.760
did that two hundred and seventy five, two hundred and
1460
01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:43.760
seventy five year pulse. That that like civilizations.
1461
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.680
Do, yeah, rice and fall just two hundred and something years.
1462
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:51.039
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, So that a good stab at
1463
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:51.399
that one.
1464
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:54.439
Oh yeah, definitely. Now I want to I want to
1465
01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:58.560
talk about you mentioned earlier that the basically the dark
1466
01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:02.840
lords had taken over everything, and I, you know, I
1467
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.520
tend to agree, and I have many guests that have
1468
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:11.000
theories about you know, this this global takeover of our civilization,
1469
01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:18.039
hijacking of not only our governments and corporations, but our consciousness,
1470
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:21.600
and then the way that we're thinking when do you
1471
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.119
think that this kind of global takeover occurred. Do you
1472
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:27.199
think it's been for thousands of years or you think
1473
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.640
it's more something more recent within a few hundred years,
1474
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.880
that that these you like you call them dark lords
1475
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:35.319
took over.
1476
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:47.840
H Yeah, I think when now we had a yeah, beautiful,
1477
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:54.359
thriving planet and then we got hit with this last catastrophe,
1478
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:57.800
and you know, we see the remnant of this old
1479
01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:00.760
civilization at three hundred and fifty feet you know, off
1480
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:04.000
on the off on the continental shelves, these old cities
1481
01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:07.479
out there, pyramids under the you know, by Cuba and
1482
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:09.560
a lot of different places. You know, it was a
1483
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.039
it was a beautiful planet. It had you know, it
1484
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:18.359
had an ice canopy that was protected from radiations, so
1485
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:26.720
floor and fine thrive. But when all that collapsed, it just, uh,
1486
01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:33.880
it generated this kind of degenerated degenerated uh. You know,
1487
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:37.079
everything was in upheaval. You know, so before everything was connected,
1488
01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:40.640
you had the system of of of pyramids. They're all
1489
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.279
kind of interacting and and and and and you know,
1490
01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:46.800
enlivening the planet themselves, enlivening the magnet field of the planet,
1491
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:48.840
and everything was kind of like working together. And then
1492
01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:54.279
when these things collapsed, just just like uh uh, like
1493
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.520
the logical system that collapses. You get these sparks coming
1494
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:01.840
off these different places and and is uh you know,
1495
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:07.399
lack of coherence and all those things that that that
1496
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:11.840
that that happens when systems break down. So that's when
1497
01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.319
you know, so there's this remnant that's still there, but
1498
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:19.880
it's it's a remnant that's that's kind of chugging along
1499
01:43:20.479 --> 01:43:25.720
in a in a collapse state, in a in a
1500
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:31.279
state of entropy. So states of entropy is where the
1501
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:38.520
dark Lords thrive. And so we get fast by these
1502
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:40.760
you know, we are fascinated by the past and the
1503
01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:45.800
state entery. I'm sorry, it's like getting energy to this
1504
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:50.399
past collapse when when we need to step forward into
1505
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:53.880
into a new relationship with planet that that's that's not
1506
01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:58.880
based on on on this collapse system that that you
1507
01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:02.960
know when Haywire back five thousand years ago, six thousand
1508
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:03.720
years ago.
1509
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.800
You think this this collapse was a was was a
1510
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.199
was a natural type of cataclysm or or something more intentional.
1511
01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:20.359
Uh. It's people have conjectured, uh channeled uh that there
1512
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:28.159
was the passing of planet x uh and that stripped
1513
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:32.520
the planet of its atmosphere because of the debris there was.
1514
01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:38.560
You know, it's simply you know, when you look at
1515
01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:43.560
the Bible, you know, oh, the Bible's fact. And Methuseloi
1516
01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.880
lived to be a thousand years old, and David was
1517
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.000
seventy years when he died. So it was a uh,
1518
01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:52.159
in the old times you got to live longer. Then
1519
01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.640
there was this flood, and after the flood you could
1520
01:44:56.159 --> 01:45:00.800
ferment grapes. Before the flood you could not ferment grapes.
1521
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.680
So that meant that there was more radiation heading the planet.
1522
01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:10.479
So and so everybody started to die younger and and
1523
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:14.479
and because of that new condition that new the the
1524
01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:18.399
the off world civilizations that were you know, like here,
1525
01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:21.880
uh you know, doing its thing split because it was
1526
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:28.479
no longer viable for their type of biologies. You know
1527
01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.840
that they couldn't handle a radiation. But us, you know,
1528
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.079
kind of like slaves that were developed not to die,
1529
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:39.520
you know, no matter what condition. You know, I mean
1530
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:44.800
tough humans now who were who were given free will
1531
01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:48.600
by the Syrians, you know, who put some silica in
1532
01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:54.960
our in our systems to develop consciousness. You know, it's
1533
01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:00.520
it's been quite a history, but I think that's why
1534
01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:03.760
they why et doesn't really come home.
1535
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:07.199
So do you think that that that the aninochy mythos
1536
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:10.560
may be somewhat accurate that we were kind of tinkered
1537
01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:14.319
with our DNA or genetics may have been advanced by
1538
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:16.760
an advanced off planet species.
1539
01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:23.560
Yeah, I adhere to one or two uh theories, you
1540
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:29.760
know that one I Yeah, you know from un understanding, Uh,
1541
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:35.359
the Achy weren't that grade of manipulators of d N
1542
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:41.760
A so that they employed the Syrian people geneticists to
1543
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:45.279
create us, but they would not create a human species
1544
01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:50.520
with without you know, they Onochy wanted automatons and the
1545
01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:54.640
Syrians would not do that. They wouldn't create a new
1546
01:46:54.680 --> 01:47:01.159
species without giving them the ability to develop consciousness. So
1547
01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:04.840
that's where we came from. Okay, there's that one. Then
1548
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:07.479
the other one is that there you know, every time
1549
01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:11.479
we go through one of these uh these galactic sheets,
1550
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:14.880
there's an upgrade in our DNA that happens because of
1551
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:22.720
the light path and and that that that evolves us, right,
1552
01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:28.800
and there are certain like frequency codes within this uh
1553
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.520
these sheets that comes out from the galactic center that's
1554
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:35.880
just informing all the planets, uh, you know, to activate
1555
01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:39.720
these dnn E codes, you know, to to do their thing,
1556
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:44.319
just to grow, and it's a beautiful thing.
1557
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:46.319
Do you think that we're going through a period of
1558
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:49.680
time like that at this time where people's consciousnesses are
1559
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:55.199
expanding and evolving because of some of this cosmic energy? Possibly?
1560
01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:00.960
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, you know there is ah you know, oh,
1561
01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:05.680
we were entering the photon belt was about fifteen years ago,
1562
01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:08.560
it was about twenty twelve or something, but we're really
1563
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:13.439
starting to enter it now to actually go through. Yeah,
1564
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.680
I think what what you know with these troughs and
1565
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:21.720
mountains of energy of these plasma sheets that we fly through,
1566
01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:26.600
the spinning around the galaxy, I think there's there's one
1567
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.720
as positive the ones negative. Then you have a transition
1568
01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:33.640
zone between and when you're in that transition zone, that's
1569
01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:37.359
that's when you get you know, hit with these light
1570
01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:40.560
codes and then you work it out in this in
1571
01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:44.319
this next twelve thousand year period. So I'm thinking that
1572
01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:48.439
we're heading into a good twelve thousand year period and
1573
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.520
our light codes are all being up upgraded, you know.
1574
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:57.279
I mean, yes, there is global warming. Is our global
1575
01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:02.279
environmental collapse as being is that asturbated by humans, But
1576
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:08.119
the entire system is warming up and heating up, and
1577
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.600
Mars is melting, you know. I mean it's just showing
1578
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.079
that there's an increase of light. As a kid, you know,
1579
01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.359
the front to cap this off, as a kid, I'd
1580
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:18.399
paint the orange sun. Now I'd have to say it
1581
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:23.119
was titanium. I mean, there's a definite increase of light
1582
01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:26.880
hitting the Earth now, and that's bound to transform anything
1583
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:27.399
and everything.
1584
01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.800
Well along the same lines of you know, cosmic energy
1585
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:35.119
hitting the planet. We were talking about resets and cataclysms
1586
01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:37.560
earlier that may have wiped out a good portion of
1587
01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:39.840
life on the planet. Do you think that we maybe
1588
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.760
do for another type of reset in within our lifetime?
1589
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:49.239
Yeah, it's just a tough planet. Yeah, just about get
1590
01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:52.000
up and get on the bicycle and boom, here comes
1591
01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:55.600
another catastrophe right right now? How do we drive this
1592
01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:58.960
planet through all these cycles of catastrophes that we have
1593
01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:04.279
that just destroy It's not it's starting up again, you know. Yeah.
1594
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:10.600
Uh but uh yeah, catastrophes.
1595
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.319
I mean, do you think we're dover do you think
1596
01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:16.319
we're overdue for the next big one?
1597
01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:23.600
Yeah? Uh, And that's evident in the electromagnetic field of
1598
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:30.920
the planet. You know when when after a catastrophe, you know,
1599
01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:35.640
a cataclysm, the the magnetic field of the planet goes
1600
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:40.319
to a very coherent north and south demarcation, you know,
1601
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:47.399
very strong electromagnetic charge. And prior to just prior to
1602
01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:51.800
cataclysm happening, all those charges get all mixed up, you know,
1603
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:54.880
the plus and the minus, and you get these like
1604
01:50:55.039 --> 01:51:00.760
mid Atlantic uh anomaly or South Atlantic anomaly in the
1605
01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:04.199
Indian Ocean anomaly and all that just uh.
1606
01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:06.560
Uh.
1607
01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:12.399
You know, she tries to find coherence. So in order
1608
01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:15.319
to do that, it has to change polarity. Now, when
1609
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:20.079
you change polarity, you change spin. Uh. You know, like
1610
01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:23.880
if you were to reverse wires on a dynamo, the
1611
01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:29.239
dynamo was spinning the opposite direction. And that's what Harvard's
1612
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:35.880
Harvard uh Professor Emeritus of Astrophysics said would happen if
1613
01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:40.000
if the polls shifted like plus became minus, it would
1614
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.039
have to stop and make this adjustment. So when you
1615
01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.760
make that adjustment, you're going to have this cataclysmic thing.
1616
01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:51.760
Like geologists have have puzzled that the andes looks like
1617
01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:57.520
it was thrown up in the day, in a single day.
1618
01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:00.079
But you know, so it's like when that when and
1619
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:05.000
I think torques and changes, our entire surface gets all
1620
01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:08.640
that rock granted, and everything gets kind of like push
1621
01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:14.000
together and uh and gets an increase of pasio electric energy.
1622
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:20.119
It is generated within the membrane field that then can
1623
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:25.279
work in consort with the inner core to generate a
1624
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:30.760
stable field. So, uh, the only way I can think
1625
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:35.800
of to uh be able to do this, you know,
1626
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:38.119
like not have to have the Earth go through it
1627
01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:41.439
and for us to be able to continue driving, and
1628
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.239
we have to contribute that electromagnetic crazy frequently that those
1629
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:51.640
electromagnetic energies to the planet in order to uh enliven
1630
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.479
it without having to go through these big changes. So
1631
01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:59.960
and that's that's the that's the job of Earth run,
1632
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:05.680
that's the job of these circular forms on planet.
1633
01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:10.680
Do you think that it's possible that there are powerful
1634
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.399
forces on this planet that have already known that we
1635
01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:16.279
are overdue for a cataclysm, know that we may be
1636
01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:19.800
facing one within our lifetime, and have already put in
1637
01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:23.520
measures to maybe start countering this. I know that there's
1638
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.640
some theories that what they're spraying in the sky is
1639
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:29.239
to kind of stop this Grand Solar minimum the effects
1640
01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:33.079
from occurring you know you mentioned the magnetic field. I know,
1641
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:36.920
our magnetic field is rapidly moving towards Siberia. So the
1642
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.760
magnetic field has already started to flip, and I know
1643
01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:41.640
once it gets to a certain point, there's going to
1644
01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:45.159
be no stopping it. It will reverse. So I'm wondering
1645
01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:47.800
if you if you think that there maybe there are
1646
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:51.239
members of our elite government that already know about this
1647
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:54.840
and maybe trying to stop it or slow it down,
1648
01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:56.600
or maybe just get the hell off the planet.
1649
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:10.560
Mm hm, well you know, uh I I you know,
1650
01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:13.840
my my my senses, uh yeah, you know, they they
1651
01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:17.640
want to hold on to their control and this incoming light.
1652
01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:22.000
You know, we're going back to the circle. You know
1653
01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:25.359
that there there's and that's the most dangerous that that's
1654
01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:28.920
what was most dangerous about the Native American people. It's
1655
01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:34.600
because of their their direct relation with with creator, you know,
1656
01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:39.760
and uh and you know they're trying to hold onto
1657
01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:43.000
their powers and that you know, we're returning to the circle,
1658
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:45.439
which is just the expression of this planet. You know,
1659
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:51.319
it's it's inevitable. So that this you know, so it's
1660
01:54:51.359 --> 01:54:53.319
like we've got to get out of this this pyramidal
1661
01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:57.640
frame of mind, because they'll always do that. Then they
1662
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always have done that.
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01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:03.920
Right, Yeah, they definitely have to to keep their control
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01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:10.760
by any means. Peer peer is the definitely controller. Definitely. Now,
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01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:14.479
I've really enjoyed this, Peter, that was fantastic information. Before
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01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:18.319
you we close out tonight, is there anything else important
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01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:21.399
that we should discuss about some of these topics.
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Uh, well, I would just like to close and saying
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that I offer these as a way in which to
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01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:37.680
release a lot of collective trauma that's in land. Uh
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01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:40.800
you know, well, I like the releasing the trauma of
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01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.880
the native experience over the last five hundred years really
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01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:46.960
needs to be a trust and uh you know it's
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01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:53.199
through uh you know, working with uh you know, working
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01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.520
with these sacred sides. I think that we can we
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01:55:55.560 --> 01:56:01.119
can do that. And uh yeah, I believe that that
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01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:06.479
this is a tool for environmental stabilization and harmony. We've
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01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:09.920
used it in the past to make your reign successfully,
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01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:16.159
so uh, you know, getting some kind of support and
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01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:19.239
patronage to you know, I mean I don't play all
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01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:23.000
the different it all stuff, but you know, if there's
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01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.840
a metagy out there somewhere that you know resonates just
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01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:29.680
what I'm saying with this work, I think we can
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01:56:30.319 --> 01:56:35.039
really uh do a lot towards, you know, bringing an
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01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:38.199
environmental harmony impact to the planet.
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Yes, excellent. Now, if people would like to find out
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more about yourself, your work, your books, what's the best
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01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:46.560
way that they can do?
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So? Yeah, I just google my name. That pretty much
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comes up. It's either me or a couple of hockey
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players from Canada.
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Right awesome. I will also leave the links in the
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description that.
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01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:03.359
You said geometry place. I've done a lot of studies
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that are on my website. I desperately need to upgrade
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my website and publish all these various articles I've done
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over the years and have that all available, and I
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just I try to have it all available. You can.
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My book is available on Google Play. Guy a matrix
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my name and download it for quick like otherwise you
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know it's it's I sell them. And there's a few sites,
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01:57:30.479 --> 01:57:32.159
two sites that also sell the book.
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Wonderful man.
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I'm working on I'm working on the Encyclopedia of Earth rings,
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01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:40.920
trying to get it out before all my gray hair
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01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:41.479
falls out.
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Oh that's great. Yeah, Well, I'd love to talk to
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01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:46.600
you again when you get that out. UH. This is
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01:57:46.720 --> 01:57:50.039
fantastic information, a lot of stuff that I've never heard before,
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01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:52.399
and I'm sure the audience is going to find this fascinating.
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So Peters, thank you so much for coming on, and
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I'd love to talk to you again soon in the future.
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Thank you, and.
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Until next time, and have an excellent evening. We will
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talk again Monday.
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We get a little tiny taste of this reality, we
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01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:18.840
tend to spend it in a way that causes the
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01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:23.520
least amount of existential harm to ourselves. So religious person
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01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:25.920
would see angels, and they would they would maybe find
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01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:30.359
comfort in that. A person that has anxiety about the
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01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:33.439
abduction phenomena may see aliens and would put a very
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01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:36.199
negative spin on that, And then a person who is
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01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:39.600
perhaps more secular might just think of it as an
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01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:42.079
interesting experience that and not put a tremendous amount of
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01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:45.039
value on it at all. So our own biases, our
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01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:50.720
own UH, our own culture, our own optics really drive
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01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:55.520
the UH the experience. And there's another theory that we
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01:58:55.680 --> 01:59:02.079
actually project the experiences from ourselves. Now we're actually causing
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01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:06.720
this thought form to manifest in a way that's more agreeable.
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01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:11.319
When a positive or extremely terrifying on the negative.
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01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:16.720
One of Jocque Roley's perspectives on this that he shared
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01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.079
with Jail and Heinik as well as Sternce mckinna decided
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01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:21.840
the psychedelics into this part of the conversation because it's
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been viewed from all of it. It is that this
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01:59:25.239 --> 01:59:28.880
is possibly a psycho semantic one and within that framework,
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01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:30.800
it calls back to what we talked about about the
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subjectivity of this realm in general. Whatever this place is,
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01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:35.880
it's very personal to you. We could see this in
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01:59:35.880 --> 01:59:41.000
the form of synchronicities to preferences and music, foods, things
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01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:43.560
like this, like this place is very tailored to you,
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01:59:43.640 --> 01:59:46.199
and you will gravitate towards the things that are calling
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01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.520
you in a direction of your mission based on just
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01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:52.399
preferences that you have. We could see how already your
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01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:57.399
interpretation and experience of this reality, even amongst the myriad
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01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:00.520
of options, is going to be radically different than anyone else,
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not because it's different because you have the same things
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to choose, but what you're attracted to, your experience of
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those things, why you saw that versus this. These kind
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of things are fascinating. They seem to play out in
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very radically different scenarios based on the individual as well.
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Some people say they had a fantastic time. These people
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all they heal everyone, They let me drive the craft around.
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They picked up a bunch of people from a volcano
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02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:28.319
before it exploded and saved all these people. They're here
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to help us. They tell us that we should be
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taking better care of the planet. And who knows if
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the entities themselves were having a rough day. Who knows
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if the person's interpretation of the experience is radically different
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than what actually happened, but for whatever reason had a
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really bad time with it and they get traumatized. There
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is a difference between contact and abduction, and they are
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viewed that way by the participant, by the occupant, and
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again that's subjective. In nature. You can either say that
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you're being taken on a wonderful ride or that they
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stole you and that you didn't want to go willingly.
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Who's who's controlling that, because some people in the community
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will say, then, well, you at a level decided that
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this was the kind of contact that you wanted, but
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you had to forget when you came here, and you
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just need to trust that your soul made that agreement.
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I have some challenges with that intellectually and emotionally for
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me personally. But there are some people who get by
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just fine on that, and there are some people who
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have had wonderful times after being contacted. The ability of
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these entities to perception manage how you feel about an
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experience with them, I don't know how I feel about that.
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The extraterrestrial alien abduction phenomena has become much more acceptable
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in our modern society, especially after the recent events surrounding UFOs,
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like congressional hearings, mass media coverage, and even widely reported sightings.
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For weeks now, New Jersey resident has been played by
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unexplained drones lying overhead.
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Dozens of reports of unauthorized drones flying in the skies.
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Unconfirmed reports of drone activity. We have no idea what
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it is. If it's a natural phenomenon. At least four
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commercial pilots reported mysterious bright lights.
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Reports of small, coarsized drones hovering over New York and
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New Jersey.
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The government is actually lying. The government knows what is happening.
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Something strange is going on. For some reason, they don't
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want to tell the people.
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There seems to be different sides of the UFO Alien enigma,
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what you see on TV, the news, and in movies,
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and what people experience for themselves.
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He has also delved into research of topics of the
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paranormal and uthology, and he has come to believe that paranormal,
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uthology and ancient human history may have more in common
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than most want to admit. James, welcome back.
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How are you John Well, Chris, Hey, thanks for having
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me back on the show.
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Of course.
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Man, it's always great having you on. It's great to
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talk to you again. Last time we spoke was at
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i think the Mega conference last year we had. It
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was a really amazing presentation, one of my favorites, and
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if of course about the high Strangeness in your research
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surrounding the un Tah Basin and all the crazy stuff
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that goes on out there. And this year you're actually
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going to be giving another presentation, is that right?
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Yes, that's correct, I'll be speaking. They actually made it Friday,
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the twenty fifth of March. It's called the High Strangeness Day,
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and I'll be opening at a thirty am in the morning.
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Awesome. Now, without giving away too much, could you tell
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us a little bit about what you're going to be
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presenting this year.
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Yeah.
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The title is called The Lost and Forgotten Past, Confronting
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the High Strangeness to understand the truth and what it entails.
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Are locations all over the world that I've been to
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where the current anthropological and archaeology premise behind everything and
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what the archaeologists say doesn't really make sense. And what
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I want to do is. I want to present the
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additional information and data points that I've collected to show
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that there seems to be an even more distant history,
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that it goes much for the past what they tell
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us it does. And then not only is it, you know,
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human history, but it also seems to be other species,
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mainly giants that have been around the world. And I'm
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going to also talk and discuss the Ouelos de at
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Lisco alien artifacts that are coming out of Mexico and
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kind of give people heads up that a majority of
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it are they're fake, fraudulent, just because it's become a
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huge money maker for the drug cartels that are in
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that area.
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And interesting.
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I want to show and present some of the artifacts
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that I actually believe are real and are thousands of
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years old and kind of explain how that fits into
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the cultures and the civilizations that are in that north
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central portion of Mexico and work their way all the
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way actually up to the desert southwest.
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Now for you, what are some of the most profound
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findings that point to you know, like you said, archaeologists
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have been leading us down the wrong direction when it
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comes to our ancient past, and that it is much
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more interesting and fantastic than we could have ever imagined.
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You mentioned giants, What are some of the other maybe
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sightings or things that you have come across or research
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that kind of puts our ancient past. It gives it
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a different angle than what archaeologists are trying to portray.
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Sure So and Ted Deo La Khan in Mexico, there
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are a lot of locations on the site that aren't
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even talked about or discussed, that are underground and shouldn't
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be based upon what we're told and what the reason
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for them that we're being created doesn't make sense. The
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technology that's blow ground there is far greater than what
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we've been told. There's also a location on the Pacific
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coast of Mexico. It's known as Shiwa Khan. It's next
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to Ziawanta Najo and thirty years ago we were told
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there was no great civilization or cultures there. Yet we
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have an area that's about eight square miles that is
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nothing but pyramids, and to date we've only well they've
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only excavated a single pyramid and it's completely covered in
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clay that has lasted for over three thousand years. And
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I don't know if you've ever try putting stuckover clay
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on anything on a house, it only lasts like twelve
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to fifteen years before you have to completely replace it
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or at least make patch repair work to it. And
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this thing's lasted forever. And it's a cultural site where
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many many cultures and civilizations gathered from all over Central
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America from mezso America, and that was never supposed to happen,
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so why were they gathering at this one site. It
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also has the second largest ball court in Mesoamerica after
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the one in the Yucatan in Chichinitza. So these are
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also attached to the giants. We're told that Zelwah the
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Giant and six of his brothers or the seven giants,
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were the creators of this. If you talk again to
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the archaeologists and anthropologists, they say that's just mythology. Yet
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the Nahawa people and the other cultures state this is
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just oral tradition, which is actual history. And the final
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site is northeastern Utah near Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch,
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where you have these petroglyphs that all over the place
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show giants. They have six digits on their hands, they
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have these large feet that have been carved into the
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rock wall or painted on if it's a pictograph, and
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it's not just in one side or two sites, it's everywhere.
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the oral tradition of the Shoshone Indians that were the
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real Utah Territory Indians, not the Ute who were actually
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more within the what's now Colorado. So just a ton
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of this and it all seems to be connected. You
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have the giant connection between all these areas. You know,
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the oral traditions are very similar.
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that they would have all these different time types of
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ancient beings and different types of ancient humans. We find
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evidence of, like you said, giants, evidence of either humanoids
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or other types of beings with elongated skulls, evidence of
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little people. So it just seems like they just had
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all kinds of different types of beings, whether they were
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just forms of humanoids or primates or whatever they are
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something that we have not categorized. It makes me wonder.
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of strange little creatures, It makes me wonder if these
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beings are still here in some way. I think you
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mentioned underground. Maybe they could have gone underground and they
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just come out whenever they feel safe, or maybe they
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are in a different spectrum of vision that we can't
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even you know, we can't perceive because we don't have
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access to that. What do you think about that?
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couple of years, I know everybody that thought has followed
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my work, It's changed a lot in regards to Skinwalker
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been underground. Now there are an unheard of amount of
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cavern systems, in tunnel systems and mines that are connected
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throughout the entire Unta Basin and mountains. And you know,
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it kind of goes into what you said about Bigfoot.
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you know, what better way than to do it underground?
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lot of lost artifacts and historical data and records bold
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you have. You know, the Seven Cities of Cibola. Is
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it really Kershannab which is supposedly in the Untam Mountains,
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that's actually Tamwan Khan to the Azteca, which with a
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you know, the mixtech of people. And then in regards
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to interdimensional, multi dimensional, I mean I think anything as possible.
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You know, we have NASA investigating these X points, these
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geomagnetic anomalies that take place that open portals from the
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Sun to the Earth, and these our mass or scientists
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you know, investigating this. So I absolutely believe that the
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potential for that same type of magnetic energy to create
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these portals is very capable on the planet as well
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as above it or outside of it at least.
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about these areas in the Unto Basin and skin Walker
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Ranch and just areas of high strangeness in general, is
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when you add in the high amount of UFO activity
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and things that we're seeing in the sky and strange
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orbs and lights and all these things add you put
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them together, and it's it's such a whi range of phenomenons.
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you'll have maybe an apparition or are a ghost. And
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them seem to believe that whatever kind of energy that
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a UFO gives off whenever it's either coming into our
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reality or are coming into the atmosphere, that it may
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have some kind of electromagnetic effect on the environment, and
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it could maybe either open portals or cause paranormal activity
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or some kind of enhanced activity. What do you think
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about that, Well, I.
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Mean, I think the potential in that type of energy
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is a lot greater than what we've or what we're
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currently aware of. Look at gravity, it goes against all
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other types of energy. It's it's very low and it
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doesn't have this strength that other types of energy do. However,
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what if that's based upon the fact that maybe the
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gravity is in multidimensions, so at a specific point, it's
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actually being pulled harder in a different dimension, and that's
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where that drop in the energetic potential for our dimension
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is found. And I know that a lot of the
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physicists are looking at that, and you know, with the
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larger colliders that they're using now, they're looking into the
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fact that you know, we absolutely don't understand gravity and
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maybe in some way the magnetism and the gravity interact
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together that we just haven't interpreted the data properly. And
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come to understand yet, and you know, I think we're
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at this point in time where suddenly all these large
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just discoveries are taking place, and the government or government
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entities seem to be forced are being forced now into
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giving up a little bit more of that information. So
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hopefully we'll learn what else is available or what current
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scientists what their most recent data points show, you know,
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and not have to wait ten or twenty years to
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find that out.
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last year, you were going out there with something I
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believe called a magnetometer. Are you still using this?
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I have the vector magnetometer, which you know, tests and
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tells us what the magnetic reading is for that specific
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part from the Earth's core, and it's a vector it
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can tell us location is coming from. And I've also
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added a three D ground imaging magnetometer. Now it's a
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system that it actually looks into the ground up to
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sixty feet and can show if there are objects below,
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if there are cavities below, voids below, if there's water
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running through the ground. It converts that magnetic reading into
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through the software into a color match, and it's just
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incredible we've been using it, you know, on a couple
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of shows. I can't talk about that, but it'll be
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it'll be shown and in my future presentations coming up.
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What you're going to see is just it's simply amazing
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because it almost feels like you're cheating. You're able to actually,
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you know, look into the ground without being intrusive to
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it and having to dig or anything. We're capable of
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seeing if there are what those anomalies are. You know,
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with the vector magnetometer, you know there's something there, but
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you have no idea what it is. You know, there's
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this magnetic anomaly below. Is it a huge magnet? Is
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it maybe a hole that's creating less of a read
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than what the normal standards should be for that. But
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now with the three D ground imaging, I'm actually able
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to show you exactly what it is, how deep it is,
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what it looks like three dimensionally.
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Yeah, that is really cool. Are you using any other
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types of equipment whenever you're going out there to do
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your research?
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I am so lately if you follow a lot of
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what's going on in these areas of high strangeness, whether
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it be the meadow out in Alabama or in Colorado
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or at Skinwalker Ranch. It looks like whatever this phenomena
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is or or certain phenomenon, they are capable of being
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seen in a different light that it's requiring, you know,
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night vision or thermal vision. So I had before, but
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it was pretty cheap quality. So I've upgraded quite a
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bit in order to conduct that type of investigation. And
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just due to the fact that it seems like a
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lot of people are starting to see UAP other types
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of species portals, whatever you want to call it or
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say that you've seen it seems to require night vision
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or thermal imaging in order to do that. So yeah,
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and that means a lot more night investigation than what
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I have done in the past. And I'm also we're
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coming together. There's going to be a few people that
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are actually going to start doing this as a group,
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just because you know, you know, more eyes than just
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my two eyes are a lot better cover a lot
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more ground in the specific locations for sure.
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a little bit new for people that haven't really been
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researching this stuff. I remember the meadow that you just
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mentioned was an undisclosed location for a long time, they
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wouldn't even tell you what Stata was in. But now
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you said, you know, it's in Alabama, of course. But
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then we have the blind Frog Ranch and the UFO
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conference last year was the first time I've heard about
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this one as well. And this is a really fascinating area.
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Maybe for the audience that's not familiar, could you tell
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us a little bit about each location and what kind
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of concentrated phenomenon is going on in.
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These sure, so let's take the meadow first. The meadow
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is out in Alabama. I can't I'm not allowed to
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disclose the exact location, but it's in that state. Trey Hudson,
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who spoke last year you were there, discussed this. He's
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the lead investigator for a group of individuals that come
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together what occurs there are a lot of the same
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unexplainable events that are found around or at Skinwalker Ranch,
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meaning you have cryptids that have been cited there.
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electric field or electromagnetic field that shouldn't be occurring, especially
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out in the middle of nowhere where it's at. And
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then they for the first time that I've ever seen
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thermal imagings, caught three of their individuals looking into a
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portal and disappeared.
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seen in my life.
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Absolutely yeah, and it was. It was about ninety seconds
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of video that they had. And then to hear what
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those three individuals experienced while they were elsewhere, it was
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so dark, they couldn't see. There were suddenly all these
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thorny bushes around, and they knew that they were no
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longer where they were supposed to be, so they backed up,
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went backwards and had to circumnavigate all these thorny bushes
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that didn't exist when they walked into that area. And
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why they were there was because moments later, well probably
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about what ten minutes, they saw this huge rectangle box,
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yes on night vision, and it was there and we're
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talking large, and then it was gone, so was black,
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huge black cube just hovering above the ground. And then
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so that's why those three individuals actually walked to that
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site and then just disappeared. And it's just truly amazing
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because you hear about this, uh you know, but you've
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never seen the evidence like this, and it was just
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pretty exciting for you know.
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I was I'm still stunned that I was able to
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see something like that because these these people were literally,
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you know, on thermal imaging there one second and then boom,
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they're just they're not in existence, and you know, they
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come back, they pop out. How far was it from
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their original point where they exited.
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that were suddenly where they were. So it took them
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about ninety seconds to get around it because they said
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it was in total darkness they just couldn't see.
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now blind Frog Branch that's twenty one miles northeast of
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Skinwalker Ranch. It's right where the u in Top Basin
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meets the un Top mountains. What's occurred there? People have
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supposedly seen multiple UFOs at once. I believe it was
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nine at one time. The mountains have lit up in
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this blue light. They've found blue dirt when they were drilling.
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There is an underground cavern system that we absolutely know about.
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We've mapped it out about a little over a mile
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and a half long. Again, remember how I was telling
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you all these caverns underground and it's inundated with water.
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that couldn't walk start walking again. And what's really amazing
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is there's this Aztec connection and this ancient not just
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the Spaniard connection, but also even older to this group
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of giants known as the Starknock that were miners. And
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there's this supposed site that is full of artifacts, tons
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of gold, and it supposedly around the blind Frog Ranch area.
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It's actually two locations. There's a Sacred Mind and then
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there's this sacred site called Kershnob. And so you have
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all of this coming together and then you have a
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there's a show about it. It's Mystery at blind Frog Ranch.
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As a matter of fact, Season two airs tonight. Episode
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one for the second season airs tonight at ten pm
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Eastern seven Pacific. And you've had the people that were
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working there see these apparitions go flying by in a
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blue light that look like Native Americans, and you have
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people that swear that they've seen what is apparently a
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cryptid that has bent branches into all types of circles
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above these tall trees that are at least about eight
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or nine feet tall, which you and I couldn't reach.
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So it's not just a phenomenon, it's multiple phenomena occurring.
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And again, you know, it's in this area where we
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have this anomalous energy which I absolutely believe is below
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ground on the Uenta basin and in the mountains.
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And it makes me wonder with you know, portals appearing
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everywhere and all this, like you said, underground energy, if
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it makes me lean towards that this could be more
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of these whatever these entities are, beings are, they could
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be coming through these portals into our reality. And for
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whatever reason, these portals manifest in this area easier than
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you know, anywhere else for some reason. And I'm wondering
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if you think it's because of something underground or some
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kind of property that the land has, or maybe something
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else causing it, because it's either these extraterrestrials or whatever's
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coming here is attracted to that or that is, you
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know the other way around. I don't know what do
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you think.
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I'm one hundred percent in agreement with you. Either the
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energy that's there is attracting it or creating the phenomena.
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And it's a lot. I mean, it's Ufoaley. It's one
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of the major Ufo alleys in our country. And in
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regards to the portals, there is something that is underground
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that looks like a massive magnet the way that it acts,
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it seems like a huge magnet is there. Whether that's
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natural or man made or other made, I don't know,
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but we know that for a fact, this transient energy
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that's occurring, I don't know how else to explain it
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unless there was something that magnetic below ground. One of
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the possibilities that a lot of people are looking into
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is maybe this was an ancient meteorite or asteroid that
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struck because remember Lake Uinta was in this location and
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it was so large. It encompassed parts of Colorado and
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parts of Utah. It was just a massive lake that
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was I think it was around about fifty two to
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fifty five million years ago. So easily if an asteroid
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struck in that water. In some parts it was a
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thousand feet deep, it would have been difficult for us
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to find that impact. But its properties from whatever rocks
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were there, which may have included quite a bit of
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gold and a ridium. Because the amount of gold that
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we're detecting in a ridium with certain equipment that I
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have is just through the roof. It's off the charts
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from what should occur naturally.
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Wow.
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So it could be, you know, some of the energy
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that's coming off of these these minerals that's maybe causing
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some kind of electromagnetic disturbance in the area. I don't know.
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Yeah, there's there's several possibilities. It's just a matter of time,
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you know, we need to figure out which one are separated.
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We know that our government and you know, dark factions
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of it at least, have been looking into that area
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for a long time. And I'm wondering if you have
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noticed any maybe increase since they've you know, since they've
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started doing shows on the History Channel and things like that,
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or has it remained the same or do you think
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that they've become more mainstream about their their kind of
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looking into it, And you know, how much do you
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think they do? You think they know a lot more
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than they're letting on.
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Well, remember that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program
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ASAT was taking place on Skinwalker Ranch when Bass was there,
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when Bob Bigelow owned it. You know, you had the big,
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bigger aerospace Advanced Space Studies group, and this private company
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was conducting all this data gathering and testing and a
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lot of stuff that I'm sure they haven't discussed for
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the government. And it was all in that area, you know.
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So you got to ask yourself, well, why I have
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a few problems with some of the people what they
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had said, because I've done a lot of research and
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a lot of I've spoken to a lot of people
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from best So there were some things that didn't really
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happen that they said happened just to please Bob, you know, Bigelow.
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But now when you look at what's happening on the
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show currently, that's all legitimate. I mean it's been captured
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on you know, filmed by a camera crews. There is
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something directly above this triangle area at Skinwalker Ranch that
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continues to open. You see it open, and then you
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see this UAP and everyone sees it at the same time.
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It's been captured. Uh, there's a lot of unexplainable events
446
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that continue to occur.
447
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But I think.
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There's some type of cyclical time frame involved when occurrence's
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phenomena occurs more than other periods. I believe that if
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you look back from around the mid nineteen nineties up
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until today and kind of chart that out, you'll start
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seeing certain patterns that look to show certain timeframes when
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this phenomena is more active than not. And I'm still
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researching that, so I don't want to go into too
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much detail yet until I can actually present all the
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data points on what I've gathered. But I mean, you know,
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it's just hard to say. It doesn't present itself on
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Q and it almost seems that it has a mind
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of its own or the ability to understand or to
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know what you wanted to do, and then it doesn't
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00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:07.720
do it. Yeah, if you want to call that manifesting, maybe, I've.
462
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Heard plenty of people who've had encounters out in that
463
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.960
area say that it's kind of like it feels like
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this trickster type of grand intelligence that maybe controls everything
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and even could control your perception of what's going on
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at times. Have you heard that or have you even
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maybe felt that at times?
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So when I've been on Skinwalker Ranch and around it,
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I've never had that feeling where I've been watched or
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something's been messing with me. However, that being said, I've
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experienced some things that at the time I didn't even
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realize that it had to do with some type of
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phenomena that we're investigating because I had never come across
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it before. And then somebody that was with me talked
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to another individual researcher or investigator, and then you know,
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you find that out at a later point in time,
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or when I present my research, I have people come
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up to me, like when I was at Phenomicon last
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year in Vernal, and after I gave my presentation, I
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ended up interviewing several people that had just a wealth
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of information. So I think the intelligence or whatever the
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phenomena is is attracted to certain individuals for what reason.
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I mean, I'm not sure, and I don't think anyone
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else is. So I think it's absolutely possible. It just
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hasn't occurred to me in that situation or in that
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case where you know, I felt like I was being
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watched or something was stocking me, or I had something
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follow me home. I haven't had that occur yet.
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Are there right, Are there any stories that stick out
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in your mind? Anything really profound or terrifying that's happened
491
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to anyone our stories. You've heard about encounters with either
492
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.319
entities or lights or UFOs or you know, anything out there.
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So I I wasn't on the ranch, but I actually
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had something that was really strange occur about a year ago.
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But Chris, I'm saving it for the UFO Mega Con
496
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.000
discuss it then if you go. I'm going to end
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my presentation with it in regards to probably one of
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the craziest things that I've heard about. And it wasn't
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experienced by one person, that was experienced by two individuals,
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so you know that that's always better. And the two
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individuals were the one person that I know, I absolutely
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00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:02.200
believe it, believe him has ties to the ranch. And
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00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.359
what they saw was a what seemed to be a
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00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:11.920
very very large animal that has been extinct for thousands
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of years that shouldn't have been at Skinwalker Ranch. And
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00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.480
it makes you wonder because look at where it's at.
507
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It's in a location where there was all this large
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flora and fauna thousands of years ago. It's one of
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the best places to get fossils, you know.
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So you're talking like a dinosaurs.
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Or earlier towards our period, like a dire wolf.
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Ah okay, okay.
513
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And I think if you think about it, if there's
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two possibilities you've already mentioned. One, if there's this this
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rift in space and time, is it just crossing through
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a portal from the past in the same location and
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it just happens to come across our present And the
518
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other possibility, oh, absolutely. And the other possibility is are
519
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:09.000
some of these creatures have they remained underground just based
520
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upon how much cavern system is underground? You know, they
521
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.719
talk about here's another great one at Bottle Halla Reservoir,
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which is three miles north of Skinwalker Ranch on at
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Fort Duchane. On the reservation, there have been several drownings
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that supposedly were created by this large black serpent that
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they said was approximately thirty five to forty feet long.
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The BIA, the law enforcement unit there, actually investigated it,
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but they won't discuss it. Think about this Bottle Halla
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Reservoir was this huge canyon underneath it are a ton
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of cavern systems that are inundated with water. Why couldn't
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something It would be dark, it wouldn't be able to
531
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see anymore, it would come out night. Why couldn't it
532
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.719
enter the reservoir through a sinkhole that's been created based
533
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upon all the volume of water that's now in the
534
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.599
canyon going into the cavern system that we know has
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water in it, there's water running through it. So it
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00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.320
could be one or the other, it could be both.
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I think both possibilities need to be thoroughly looked at
538
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and examined for sure.
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00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.800
Yeah, and it reminds me of all the mystery strange
540
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big dog sidings and even big cat sightings that people
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have seen that you know, didn't believe that those animals
542
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were even you know, existed in that area, or you know,
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much larger than any animal that should be in that area.
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Are you familiar with any accounts of like strange big
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cats or or dogs, anything that's happened recently that you've
546
00:36:57.239 --> 00:36:57.559
heard of.
547
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.800
Just recently, the state of Utah said that they found
548
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a pretty large wolf and they're looking in to see
549
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.920
if it's a hybrid or not in that Skinwalker Ranch area.
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00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.840
So that's been the talk of the town. More than
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likely it's a hybrid that somebody had, but it is
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still the first document of these wolves coming back into
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the area and obviously it was a little larger than
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what it should be in regards to others. There have
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been creatures. So a relative of the Locke family that
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00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:45.559
used to own the ranch before the Myers purchased it,
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and then the Myers sold it in the mid nineteen nineties,
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and then after that, you know, when the book was
559
00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:00.760
written and everything, then it went to Bigelow. A member
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of that family stated that when they came back to
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visit the ranch that they came across a huge raccoon
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that was on two legs, that was about, I believe
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they said, three and a half to four feet high,
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walking around on two legs, and it came right up
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to them. So that in and of itself, And what's
566
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.760
interesting is they used to have a photo of it.
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Unfortunately it's been lost in a couple moves that they've
568
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.000
had since then. And I know people are gonna go, oh,
569
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you know, what it could have, should have or where's
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00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:44.199
the proof? But I I know when I interview people,
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I know who's.
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You know.
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I mean, there's obviously that possibility, But these people were legit.
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They had nothing to gain from it. They don't want
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to be you know, known. They obviously shared that other
576
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.880
stuff that I just can't talk about. But at some
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00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:11.400
point somebody has to come across something of this nature,
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some type of cryptid, and they're going to get good evidence.
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I don't know if you saw my one presentation where
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I started using a radar, a KA band thirty four
581
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:31.199
point seven gigahertz police radar gun like I used to
582
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.039
use when I was a police officer, just in between
583
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:40.480
Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch, and it's a location
584
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where i'd come across the UAP. Finally, after multiple times
585
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.679
there came into contact with the UAP again. I used
586
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:55.599
this radar gun and it started to interact with the
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microwave radiation that I was emitting towards. It captured ninety
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00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.239
two seconds of this on video and I'll present some
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00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:08.000
of that at the UFO Mega Conference again. But it's
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just having to think out of the box and try
591
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:17.119
to start finding ways to capture evidence that's able to
592
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.599
be presented because you know nowadays and I get it,
593
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.039
I mean, you show a video or photos and people
594
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.920
don't believe you because anyone can photoshop anything they want.
595
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.840
And for me to be able to show that in
596
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:36.159
order for radar to hit something and bring back a signal,
597
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.280
and it was showing that it was moving between eleven
598
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.679
and forty four miles per hour. That showed me that
599
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:46.199
it wasn't light, it actually had a surface to the object,
600
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.079
to the UAP and the fact that I used a
601
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.119
laser radar gun right before and it didn't interact at
602
00:40:54.119 --> 00:41:00.360
all with it, that it required this microwave radiation instead,
603
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.119
and it just continuously tried to evade where I was
604
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:10.920
gunning it. And it was just amazing to have this
605
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:15.960
because again, it's just more evidence to be able to
606
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:21.679
provide and show people. And then, you know, I'm more
607
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.760
than happy I tell people, you know, during the presentation
608
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.760
where the location is, because I'm not always there on
609
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.960
the base, and I absolutely love for other people to
610
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.239
go out and investigate it, research it, and hopefully be
611
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.320
able to you know, get the same data points that
612
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.199
I got, because if we can continuously show that this
613
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.639
can occur over and over again, I mean that's you know,
614
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.920
in science, we're actually able to reproduce the outcome, which
615
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.000
is what we're looking for.
616
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.000
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
617
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.760
And from what I hear, one of the more common
618
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.480
phenomenon that occurs out there is just orbs or lights
619
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.079
that seemed to have intelligence to them that may not
620
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.199
you know, be really high up in the sky, they
621
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.360
could be even closer to their ground. Have you witnessed
622
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.159
any of these or have heard any stories about these
623
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.400
intelligent lights that you know, sometimes interact with people.
624
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:19.800
I think that's exactly what this UAP was.
625
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.679
It.
626
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.039
So we've been out there and it's in the same
627
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.800
location that I'd seen it several other times. It took
628
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.880
a while for me to finally get it to happen again,
629
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:39.119
but yeah, absolutely there was I mean, for that to
630
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.639
be able to know that it's being tracked and monitored,
631
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.159
it was just amazing. And I have interviewed other people
632
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.400
and that was the reason why I knew to go
633
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:56.880
to that location, because they had seen this same type
634
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:02.960
of orb It comes in two colors in that location,
635
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.199
and sure enough, you know, the very first time I
636
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.039
went out there at night, I captured it, but it
637
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.519
was with one of those GoPros and it's so difficult,
638
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.639
you know, in darkness for it to really show.
639
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:17.440
So it just took a.
640
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.920
Matter of time on figuring out what type of technology
641
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.239
to use in order to get the data that was needed.
642
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.760
One of the darker aspects of this, and sometimes it
643
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.519
doesn't even seem to fit with the phenomenon. Is the
644
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.679
animal mutilations and cattle mutilations. Some of them are very bizarre,
645
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.840
and I've heard of somewhere it seems like the animal
646
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.719
is just like fallen from the sky out of nowhere.
647
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.480
Are you familiar with any cases like this or strange
648
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:52.679
animal cases? And is it still occurring just as much
649
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.159
as it did you know a few years ago.
650
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.679
So I don't really research or investigate much on the
651
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:10.679
cattle mutilations, and I couldn't tell you what's been happening
652
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:15.199
or occurring just due to the fact that that's just
653
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.800
just something kind of out of what I want to
654
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.880
research and investigate it. Now, if I come across that
655
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.079
during you know, speaking to somebody, I'll absolutely take that information.
656
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.920
But usually I'd like to turn that over to, you know,
657
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.599
somebody that knows a little bit more about that than
658
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.480
I do. Now that being said, you know, with my
659
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.519
background in anthropology and archaeology, my main reason for being
660
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.679
up in that area initially was not Skinwalker Ranch. I
661
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.599
didn't even know it was there. It was the petroglyphs
662
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:53.239
and the pictographs that were there. From the Fremont and
663
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:56.920
the Barrier Canyon style cultures, which were you know, anywhere
664
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:02.639
from eight hundred years ago to thousands of years back.
665
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:08.159
And in one of these petroglyphs, it looks like you
666
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:13.360
have this zoomorphic creature that looks like a deer something
667
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:17.480
else walking through a portal and then up in the
668
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:24.079
air it's falling out of another portal upside down and
669
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.159
being crushed when it hits the ground. And like you
670
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.000
just said, that kind of fits with what happened at
671
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:38.920
the Garcia property east of Skinwalker Ranch George Knapp paded
672
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.800
in his book, where it looked like cal died by
673
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.000
falling to its depth in the middle of a field.
674
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:53.079
So to have that seemed to be captured thousands of
675
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:56.280
years ago. And I understand petric glifs pictographs are subjective,
676
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.079
you know, everybody can have a different type of interpretation,
677
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:04.000
but this one just I mean, you look at it
678
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.800
and then you hear what you just said, and it's
679
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.760
like wow, it almost seems like it's telling a story
680
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.119
of that occurring just a couple thousand years earlier.
681
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.239
Yeah, And speaking of the petroglyphs you just mentioned, there
682
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:22.800
seems to be plenty depictions of these portals, but not
683
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.519
only that, the strange creatures that people witness around these areas,
684
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:33.159
and even UFOs and maybe would look like gray aliens.
685
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.000
Too, right, absolutely, especially on the Unta basin and the
686
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.360
Uinta Mountains. And what's even more interesting is when you
687
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.679
see that, then what you need to do is go
688
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.639
and research the tribes that are in the area and
689
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:51.559
find out about their oral traditions. And you end up
690
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.519
seeing that their oral traditions match a lot of what
691
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.400
are in the petroglyphs, and you get a lot more
692
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.880
detail from that, because I mean that was their way
693
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.960
of passing the stories down, you know, instead of it
694
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.960
being written. It was an oral tradition. It's not mythology
695
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:12.679
like the anthropologists and archaeologists tell us. It's their history.
696
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.920
Now they have a couple of Native American legends that
697
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:24.000
could possibly have an explanation for some of the things
698
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:27.880
going on there, like curses between the u and the Navajo.
699
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.400
Have you heard of any other native lore or stories
700
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.280
that might kind of explain what's going on with some
701
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:37.199
of this phenomenon.
702
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:45.920
Well, the Ute so recently, a lot of the historical
703
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.039
data that I had been presenting in my talks and presentations,
704
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:53.920
I learned that some of it was incorrect. I've actually
705
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.880
recently learned that the Utah Territory Indians and the Ute
706
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.480
aren't the same interests. The Shoshone and the Paiute are
707
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.639
the actual Utah Territory Indians that lived in what is
708
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.639
now Utah. The Ute were actually in Wyoming, mostly Colorado
709
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:18.199
down into Arizona. There were a few bands that were
710
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:24.679
in Utah. But what happened was when Lincoln put everybody
711
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.920
on the reservation, they just bunched a ton of different
712
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:34.280
tribes together on a Ute reservation. And unfortunately, these other
713
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.480
bands and tribes became known as the Ute, and they've
714
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.840
lost their history and their culture. And so you have
715
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:48.480
this group called the Timpanogos, which were really Shoshone, but
716
00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:51.079
people keep saying, you know, they're Ute because they're on
717
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.639
the reservation, and they're trying to get that cleared right
718
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.719
now with Congress. But we have to change who we
719
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.719
are really looking at back in history. And I'm finding out,
720
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:05.039
and it's going to be really great to find out
721
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.039
that there's some interesting pi Unon Shashshoni oral tradition that
722
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.559
may bring a lot of clarity to what's going on
723
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.639
in northeastern Utah that the you just didn't have because
724
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.320
they weren't there. So when we hear this story about
725
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.559
the skin walkers, which are the yaw blushi between the
726
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:28.320
Navajo and the you, we're in the wrong area. You know.
727
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:30.320
Wow, that's firir.
728
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.360
So yeah, there's going to be a lot of changes,
729
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.880
and you know, and that's the great thing about research
730
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.519
is I'm willing to say, hey, I was wrong, but
731
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:41.239
I want to present what's right and start maybe going
732
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.599
down in avenue because we've been hearing the same thing.
733
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.239
You know, I had in my presentation, I showed photos
734
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.400
of what I thought was y now blushy a skin walker.
735
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:55.360
Come to find out that those are sacred Navajo shaman
736
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.880
that are are like the best of the best. They
737
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:03.920
it's only positive energy. And we've been using these photos
738
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:06.840
and if I were to show you two of them,
739
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.000
you'd be like, oh my gosh, that's a skinlocker. I
740
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.440
thought the same thing. But no, it's embarrassing, you know,
741
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.920
using that, And I want to start changing that. I
742
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.880
want to start showing what's real and what was just
743
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.559
misinterpreted because we didn't understand the culture or the civilization
744
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:27.199
that was here before us, And I think doing that
745
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.719
is going to open up new avenues and pathways of
746
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:35.400
investigating and hopefully leading to find out what that phenomenon
747
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.360
is or what's causing the phenomenon.
748
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.320
Oh yeah, for sure. And you know, I'm sure it
749
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.559
would be also, you know, really great to talk to
750
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.960
some of the local natives about their own history and
751
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.840
their own thoughts about what's going on. Have you or
752
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.519
any of your colleagues been doing so or or planned to?
753
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:00.960
Yes, a bit, so.
754
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.920
I've enterview That's why I knew that I've been presenting
755
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.920
some wrong information and I want to start clearing that up.
756
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:14.000
It was from talking not just to the Ute and
757
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:19.039
to the Tippanogos and to other Paiute bands and Shoshone
758
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:24.199
bands and tribes like the Snake Band, but it was
759
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:29.599
talking to the Navajo too. Because the Navajo came to
760
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:33.280
this part of the United States, they were kind of
761
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.519
late to the game. You know, they don't show up
762
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.639
until about seven hundred years ago, where the Ute and
763
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:41.239
the Shoshone and the Paiute were here a lot longer.
764
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:46.719
But the Navajo had such a larger population and continue
765
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.079
to have a larger population, that there's a lot more
766
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.559
of that oral tradition that's continued and that we still have.
767
00:51:53.599 --> 00:52:01.280
And a lot of the Navajo elders are in contact
768
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:07.000
with those other groups and have that information. That's extremely helpful.
769
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.559
And it's just a matter of you know, they want
770
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.599
to get the right information out to us as well,
771
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.239
and you know, in order to provide that, it's going
772
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:19.480
to have to be in both directions, and that's what
773
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:21.119
we're working towards right now.
774
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.639
Very cool, and we were talking earlier. You also told
775
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:29.119
me that you're working on a new book. Could you
776
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.400
tell us a little bit about that.
777
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.039
Yeah, So, like I always like to write fiction, but
778
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.719
there's a lot of truth in the fiction. I think
779
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:41.079
it's some of the best way to present it. It's
780
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:47.159
called The Giant and the Golden Underworld, So it pretty
781
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.239
much tells you after we've just talked. It takes place
782
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.960
in the Unta Basin and mountains. It's going to go
783
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:01.480
into real history of the Native American from North America
784
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:07.679
down through meso America. It's going to introduce history of
785
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.519
the giants that has been collected. I've been you know,
786
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:15.719
collecting their migration patterns now for about thirteen fourteen years,
787
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.400
and it's going to go into the real oral traditions
788
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.519
that have been talked about by the Payute, the Shoshoni,
789
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.320
the Ute, the discussed the Fremont culture and the Barrier
790
00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:32.519
Canyon style. Who they became instead of disappearing like we thought,
791
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.199
they actually migrated southward and became the Aztec. And then
792
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:41.079
these other groups like the ho Ho Kom that we're
793
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:46.280
in Arizona. You know, they may have originated out of
794
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:49.719
Mexico and come northward, but then on this migration south
795
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.800
they joined again and went back down south to become
796
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.760
the Aztec. And there's this this back and forth of
797
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.559
the toll Tech having come up and become the Native
798
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.159
Americans of North America and then this move back. And
799
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:08.639
you know, it deals a lot with the weather patterns,
800
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.559
and you know volcanoes that erupted in thousand and sixty
801
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:17.000
four here in Arizona that wiped out a lot of
802
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.199
territory that very few people know about. So it's just interesting.
803
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.840
In my book, I like to add a story to it.
804
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.199
I like to make it teenager friendly. So it's going
805
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.960
to cater to about the ages of twelve to eighteen,
806
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.239
but anybody can learn the history through it, and it's
807
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.840
just I hope it's a good read that people enjoy
808
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:42.239
it the storyline and also they see the history, and plus,
809
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.400
you know what, it's a good way for me to
810
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.119
leave hints and clues about what I can't talk about
811
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.320
because of the NBA's or something like that in the fiction.
812
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:57.039
So it's just a matter of you hopefully researching what's
813
00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.519
in there and you know coming away what the truth
814
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:01.920
that's hidden inside of it.
815
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:05.159
That's great. And you said you've been looking a lot
816
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:09.480
into giants and their migration patterns. That's very interesting. But
817
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:11.639
when it comes to the giants, it depends on I
818
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.079
guess who you're talking to. Some will tell you that
819
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:17.039
they were pure malevolent, that they were cannibals, that they
820
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:19.719
ate humans. Some will tell you that you know, it
821
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.239
goes both ways. There was, you know, some that were
822
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.159
good and some that were bad. Or they have some
823
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:31.559
that intermingled with humans and created hybrids. What do you
824
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.800
think about that? Do you think that there was a
825
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:38.199
whole spectrum of giants on either side?
826
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:44.079
Yeah, it's all three. So it looks like the giants
827
00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:48.039
that were here obviously originated from elsewhere. They have a
828
00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.719
lot of similarities with those that were on the island
829
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:55.519
of Sardinia. You can see it in the oral tradition
830
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.920
presented and in the petroglyphs. You have malevolent, you have benevolent.
831
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.840
You have those that intermingled with humans because there was
832
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:10.920
a dcline, there was a major catastrophic event, and you know,
833
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:14.599
you took what you could get. So you have different
834
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:19.800
types of giants, just like there's different humans on this planet,
835
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.400
you know, different height. You have a group that's called
836
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.840
the c take Caa that were supposedly redheaded, cannibalistic giants.
837
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.159
I'm not sure if the cannibal part was really accurate.
838
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.559
I think what happened was there was a group that
839
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:39.559
were headhunters. They did take heads for trophies, and that
840
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.440
probably upset a lot of the tribes that they were
841
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.639
taking those heads from. So in order to you know,
842
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.000
get rid of those giants, they had to bring a
843
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.360
bunch of bands and tribes together. So they said, hey,
844
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.440
you know they're eating us, what better way to you know,
845
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.119
go fight to get that to a curse. So you
846
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.960
got to really dig a little deeper. But yeah, absolutely
847
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.000
a lot of them were headhunters that you can see
848
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.880
that in what's out there in the desert southwest when
849
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.599
you look at the pictographs and petroglyphs, and then you
850
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.920
have height differences depending on where you're at. They were
851
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.679
absolutely taller in Mesoamerica compared to what was here. So
852
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:26.360
we're talking about an older generation being in Mexico, current
853
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.719
day Mexico than what was up here because there was
854
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:35.559
a reduction in height over time based upon less people
855
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.480
to breed with, and then they had to intermingle and
856
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.440
that just reduced them. So when the Spaniards were here,
857
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.199
they talk about seeing these Native Americans walking around that
858
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.199
were seven feet tall to about seven and a half
859
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:52.480
feet tall, you know, so, and some of them were
860
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.599
blonde haired or light brown haired, white skin. So you're
861
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:02.119
absolutely right. It's just a gamut variations, just like there
862
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:03.440
are with Homo sapien.
863
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.000
That's really cool. Now, I want to talk to close
864
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:11.840
out on about the alien artifacts that you're looking into.
865
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.400
You know, you mentioned unfortunately many of them are fake,
866
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.760
but what about those that aren't. Could you maybe talk
867
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:24.159
a little bit about what ones are the most the
868
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.880
best candidates for being authentic for you?
869
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.800
Absolutely, So, we have four locations in Mexico where we
870
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.400
definitely know that these artifacts are coming out from the
871
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:40.280
largest amount of those are from Auelos de Alisco, which
872
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:48.159
is in north central Mexico. I have looked at about
873
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.880
two hundred of these artifacts. I've actually purchased several of
874
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.719
them which are fake. And what occurred was about eighty
875
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.920
five ninety years ago. The these artifacts were in those
876
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.719
cities and they were found, and these were more than
877
00:59:06.880 --> 00:59:13.119
likely legitimate finds of what looks to be anthropomorphic creatures
878
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:17.519
that you and I would probably call a gray or
879
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:22.920
some type of other alien. And over time between that
880
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.559
eighty ninety year history up until today, we had individuals
881
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.760
that realized there was this potential to make a lot
882
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:38.159
of money by selling these as legitimate artifacts, and they
883
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:45.159
presented carbon fourteen dating from a couple universities and private
884
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.880
companies that were kind of shady because nobody saw how
885
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:54.519
it was excavated and brought out of the ground. Organic
886
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:58.679
glue is not a good way to test for carbon fourteen.
887
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.519
It's better to have of bone or wood, which can
888
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:04.840
still be You know, you can get a ten thousand
889
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.920
year old piece of wood and carve into it and
890
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.800
it would come back ten thousand years old.
891
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:10.960
Well in the.
892
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:15.960
Glue, you there is hydrocarbon in the glue, Well, any
893
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:18.679
hydrocarbon is going to return the date of at least
894
01:00:18.719 --> 01:00:23.480
five six thousand years old, because that's just what it is.
895
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:31.880
So it became such a lucrative business, and unfortunately that
896
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.000
area is heavily run by the cartel that's there. That
897
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:43.960
I would say nine hundred and ninety nine out of it,
898
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.000
well even more than that, maybe maybe one out of
899
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:53.320
ten thousand artifacts are legit. And those artifacts that are
900
01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:57.360
legitimate were mostly the ones that were found eighty ninety
901
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:01.360
years ago and have now made it into the black market.
902
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.960
And it's you know, it's not even black market because
903
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:07.639
Mexico doesn't consider them artifacts, so they don't care if
904
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.000
you buy and sell them. You know, you can, you
905
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:16.039
can purchase them online if you want. But there's two
906
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:20.679
types from the you know, there's three classes or three categories.
907
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.480
The first that I'm talking about is fake, absolutely fake,
908
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:25.280
and that's what a majority of them are. But there's
909
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.880
two other categories. The other category that this is an
910
01:01:29.960 --> 01:01:35.000
ancient artifact from at least nine to eleven thousand years
911
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:42.559
old minimum before the Great Deluge. The other the second
912
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:47.679
category that we haven't discussed is that there are artifacts
913
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:53.199
out there that are imitations of even older artifacts, so
914
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.559
they're a copy of an original, but those copies were
915
01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:01.800
made three to five to six thousand years ago. Go wow,
916
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:09.199
and they're yeah so. And it's very difficult because they
917
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:14.039
use so much current technology to fake this that you
918
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:16.400
really have to go through a gamut of different types
919
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:22.039
of testing, especially under a microscope. There I can look
920
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.280
at an artifact now and I can almost tell you.
921
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.440
I can tell you that I have seen four different
922
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.119
types of artists that I'm making these because I know
923
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.639
how they carve or etch the side of the stone
924
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.119
or how. But they use to cut into the rock surface.
925
01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.239
So it's getting easier for me to tell the fakes
926
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.400
because they have just a few people making them that
927
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:58.639
are so good at it. And in the new presentations
928
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:03.440
that I'm put together starting in March and moving forward,
929
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:07.280
I want to let the public know because a lot
930
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.760
of people are being taken for a pretty decent amount
931
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.079
of money and believe that they have a legitimate artifact
932
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:19.840
and just a bunch of crap. Because you feel bad
933
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.519
for them, So if I can at least educate them
934
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:26.000
and don't get me wrong. Out of all the ones
935
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.800
I've looked, I've seen three that I believe are one
936
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.639
hundred percent legit. I think two of them are ancient,
937
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.960
and the third one is one of those older copies,
938
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.880
which is just as amazing because you're talking about thirty
939
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.920
five hundred years ago.
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01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:40.480
Yeah.
941
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.559
Wow, that is very amazing. Well, I'm very much looking
942
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.760
forward to that. I'm looking forward to your presentation and
943
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:50.079
all the work that you're going to be coming out with.
944
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:53.800
If the audience wants to find out more about you,
945
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:56.800
what's the best way that they can do? So, website,
946
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:58.320
social media, all that good stuff.
947
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.599
Sure, yeah, let me look up here. I'm gonna read it.
948
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:06.039
It's you can get find me at www dot YouTube,
949
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:13.280
dot com, forward slash c forward slash James Keenan Giants
950
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.239
and Paranormal.
951
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:21.440
Nice and that you got any social or website as well.
952
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:27.840
Yeah, you can follow me or contact me on Facebook
953
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:35.360
and that is my on James Period Keenan Period seven
954
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:40.079
seven to one On Facebook and on Instagram, I go
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01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.320
by Dark Shadows and Catastrophe, which is the name of
956
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:44.440
my first book.
957
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:51.039
Awesome, well, James, that was fantastic, as usual, looking forward
958
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.679
to your presentation in Vegas and we'll definitely be talking
959
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.320
again soon.
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01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:58.679
Thanks Chris, thanks for having me back.
961
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:02.679
Of course, next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
962
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.360
talk again tomorrow. Today I want to welcome Peter Champeau,
963
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.679
Order of author of Gaya Matrix, Moon Rivers and Arc
964
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:16.280
of Tero. He took a simple observation of coherent geometry
965
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:20.519
in the New England landscape based on natural and cultural features,
966
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:25.400
and developed it into a geo metaphysical art science called giography,
967
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.159
the Study of our Living Earth. His bubbling planet wide
968
01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:33.159
discoveries introduced earth cell, earth rings, lay lines, and the
969
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:39.599
organic Earth grid to the wonderment that are the Earth mysteries. Peter, welcome,
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01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:40.639
How are you doing today?
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01:05:41.360 --> 01:05:43.320
I'm doing great, Chris, great show.
972
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.039
It's great to have you on. I really love discussing
973
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:49.840
the hidden history on our planet, especially when it comes
974
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:53.639
to things like Earth energy grids, lay lines, and the
975
01:05:53.719 --> 01:05:59.840
ancients understanding of sacred geometry and really megalithic construction methods.
976
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:03.800
But your work really goes beyond many of the commonly
977
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:07.320
heard theories about this knowledge that I've heard. I'd like
978
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.840
to know what was it got that got you started
979
01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:11.800
down this path looking into this stuff.
980
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:18.239
Well back when I was born, you know, literally I
981
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:22.119
was dug out of a pile of rocks. Dinosaur footprints
982
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:25.000
were discovered, So the living earth was you know, part
983
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.679
of my life from day one. My father was a
984
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.360
made tires, so our family's money was this circular thing,
985
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:37.480
our church was this circular thing. And you know, just
986
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:43.239
kind of made an impression. I guess, Uh it's uh,
987
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.199
it came out of my work with stone. With stone
988
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:50.000
and my name, Peter Shampoo means rock of the field,
989
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:54.760
so you know, in my teens and you know, who
990
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:56.400
am I? What am we going to do? What's my
991
01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.320
meaning in life? It looked at my name. It came
992
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.480
up with well, rocks and field, and I found Stonehenge
993
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:04.840
pretty quickly after that, and I was often running doing
994
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.840
lay line studies of England and reading everything I could
995
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:15.559
on that. Uh. But uh, you know what I've done
996
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.840
is taken all that, all that that knowledge that's been
997
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:23.880
a cue by uh, you know, people back engineering all
998
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:28.199
of those megalithic sites and the Great Pyramid and you know,
999
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:31.679
and everything else and and and trying to use those
1000
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:35.840
tools as a method to go forward into the future.
1001
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.079
So we can have this symbiotic future with with kind
1002
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:43.960
of nested in the planet. You know, often when we
1003
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:48.199
see uh, you know, like Jodie Foster, you know when
1004
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.760
she when she made that first contact, it was coming
1005
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:55.239
into these civilizational areas, they were always circular, you know,
1006
01:07:56.239 --> 01:08:00.000
kind of like nesting into the planet. So so I've discovered,
1007
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:04.880
you know, it's it's there in plain sight. It's it's
1008
01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:08.119
nothing hidden or or forbidden. It's just you got to
1009
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.840
look at it with your eyes kind of splinny, right.
1010
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.719
But you know there are rings everywhere.
1011
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:25.199
In oh some are more some are like rings of cities,
1012
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:27.439
and cities coalless circularly.
1013
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.680
So I think what's going on is that there is
1014
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:35.439
a a kind of an upwelling of energy from the
1015
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.840
Earth itself that bubbles out onto the surface, and that
1016
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.399
that surface is a membrane of a cell. And that
1017
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.640
cell membrane is our collective consciousness. So there are aggregate
1018
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.720
emotion or aggregate mental body, however you want to look
1019
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:57.520
at it. So we so we have these earth rings
1020
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:01.600
that that appear to be very similar to an integral
1021
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:05.479
membrane protein on a cell, and that's the that's the
1022
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:08.479
conduit for the exchange of information between the inside of
1023
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.079
the cell into the nucleus and the outside environment. You
1024
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.840
know what's needed to be exchanged, and you know, you know,
1025
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:18.520
given off or taken in or you know this type
1026
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:22.439
of thing. So there are always signals being received via
1027
01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:27.439
these centric forms around the planet. And often these centric
1028
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:37.079
forms have a a geospiritual center of that circle that's granted.
1029
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:47.319
So those sacred sites in the context of a cell
1030
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:55.479
needing information and care working at sacred sites is an
1031
01:09:55.560 --> 01:10:02.800
essential component in a good stewardship of the planet. So, uh,
1032
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.079
I propose we pay all the indigenous people to go
1033
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:07.760
out there and do ceremony, right, all the.
1034
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:15.000
Very good now for for a little bit of a
1035
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:20.520
better understanding of what these these kind of earth rings
1036
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.159
are and how the ancients had an understanding of you know,
1037
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:26.920
what they were used for. And you said they had
1038
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:31.600
sacred attributes for some of the megalithic sites. How do
1039
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:34.600
you think the ancients came upon this knowledge? First of all?
1040
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.880
Uh m uh, the spaceman came down and gave him
1041
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:46.840
some books.
1042
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:48.600
According to ancient aliens.
1043
01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:58.520
Maybe, yeah, it's it's just an emanation of nature. And
1044
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.399
if you look for it, you see it every where.
1045
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:06.399
And that emanation is based on the aneagram, which is
1046
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:10.399
is like a tempo within creation. The nine, you know,
1047
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.399
three hundred and sixty, you know, breaks down to nine
1048
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:19.399
and all this stuff nine nine nine. So this this
1049
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:23.399
pattern of nine that I found in these Earth rings
1050
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:27.560
and a radiant kind of forms. I might be going
1051
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:32.319
up track here, but lassue me and if I do, please.
1052
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.600
Yeah, you're fine.
1053
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:40.640
But these radiant forms mimic the interior of the planet.
1054
01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:44.840
So I was finding these forums and I had a question,
1055
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.439
what are they? And then a friend sent me this
1056
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:52.880
this diagram of of an Earth energy works that he
1057
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:58.239
had housed out in Medford, Oregon, and this this vortex
1058
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:01.680
had had a pyramid in it, so, you know, kind
1059
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:06.359
of implied to it. Whatever. So there was this this
1060
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:12.560
certain radio pattern that was discovered within the vortex itself.
1061
01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:17.760
So those same ring patterns matched the ring patterns I
1062
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:22.000
was finding on the surface, and it kind of clicked,
1063
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:25.159
and I said, well, I've seen that somewhere. And indeed
1064
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:30.199
there was this USGS model of the interior of the
1065
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:35.359
planet that had that same ring pattern to that, And
1066
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.119
in later years I found that the same ring pattern
1067
01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:42.640
is exhibited in the human eye. It's in the simantics
1068
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:47.000
of did redo? You know that the sound waves that
1069
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.960
did you redo? Is make So it's this emanation that
1070
01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:54.920
that's you know for the sensitive you can feel in
1071
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.960
a vortex. So so with Stonehenge being an Earth energy vortex,
1072
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:03.119
that they raged uh the stones to match that vortex,
1073
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:08.279
to amplify that energy so that they could uh fertilize
1074
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:12.239
the fields and and make make crops grow better. That's
1075
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:17.239
the only reason to devote that kind of prodigious work
1076
01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:22.520
on rolling rocks around if I've moved myself, but you know,
1077
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.359
it has to be an important reason. And that's the
1078
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:30.920
only thing I can think of is grounding sky nitrogen
1079
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:36.640
via megaliths. So in the bigger the megaliths, the more
1080
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:39.560
the more charge it would have, especially on a l
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01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:44.239
a line. So they often are shown, uh you know,
1082
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:48.840
like in certain you know, like solar storms for instance.
1083
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:54.239
Uh you the megaliths will often hum and put off
1084
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.359
a blue light you know, and uh the old uh
1085
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:05.800
you're a go off in historical tangents, but the uh
1086
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:11.960
uh And in exploring the mounds along the straight tracks
1087
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:15.760
of England, they found that these these toots, these these
1088
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:20.239
you know, like these these earthen mounds often had chromleches
1089
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:26.439
on it or these uh certain style of stacking stones.
1090
01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:32.279
And inside the the you know, undisturbed earth was this
1091
01:14:32.479 --> 01:14:36.039
rock that was melted. So it appears as though that
1092
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:41.039
there was this over charge of the delay line system
1093
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:44.479
at one point and it you know, blew out, I
1094
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:48.119
mean to to melt rock. It's you know, five thousand degrees.
1095
01:14:53.720 --> 01:15:00.720
I think really uh kind of a bioelectric power system. There.
1096
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.359
A lot of the lay lines of England are oriented
1097
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:07.439
towards Atlantis, so I suspect that there might might be
1098
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:12.640
some kind of tulluric exchange of frequency energy between you know,
1099
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:18.079
the Atlantis is uh earth based technologies that they employed
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01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:19.760
with the Great Pyramid and such.
1101
01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:23.680
Now you said it's pointed towards Atlantis by Atlantis. You
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01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.399
know what area were you referring to?
1103
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:33.880
Well, I'm just going with Plato. He said, you go
1104
01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.399
through the gates of Hercules and take a left, and
1105
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:42.720
out there to the west is uh is Atlantis, and
1106
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:48.560
right there is the Azores and the and for a
1107
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:53.640
uh something the size of Atlantis, which incidentally also the
1108
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:57.880
design that the quoted design of Atlantis also matched these
1109
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:01.960
earth ringe batterns, so that Atlantis was in a vibrational,
1110
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:09.920
harmonic symbiotic shape form with the planet. But the problem was,
1111
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.680
you know, like there was a lot of telluric energy
1112
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.439
to harves us off the mid Atlantic Rift where the
1113
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:19.520
a'sars are. But you know, so you know that baby
1114
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:20.239
was humming, you.
1115
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:23.039
Know, yeah, wow.
1116
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.560
But uh, you know it cracks open every now and
1117
01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.039
then and the mid Atlantic rift opens up and it
1118
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:34.000
goes Atlantis. So the main lay line of England points
1119
01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:37.239
right right to the Azores. So that's why I go.
1120
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:42.039
How important were some of these megalithic construction sites when
1121
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:45.960
it comes to alignments of stars and uh, you know,
1122
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:55.600
alignments to the solstices and different satellites in different constellations.
1123
01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.680
How does this all connect to deconstruction with lay lines
1124
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:02.920
and earth rings.
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01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:10.000
I'm not sure if they're directly connected or I haven't
1126
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:14.319
seen them directly connected. There there is a connection of
1127
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:23.680
the sun cycles, sun and and and galactic cycles, so
1128
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:29.840
the lay lines fluctuate. I don't know. Maybe this I
1129
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:33.920
don't know, this came in as uh. This is the
1130
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:40.840
work of Corey uh Rory Duff roryduff dot com. He's
1131
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:45.439
he's an English geomancer and dowser. What he's found is
1132
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:51.840
that there's a waveform, galactic waveform that undulates every you know,
1133
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:56.000
the undulation we go through every twelve thousand years, and
1134
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.319
we're heading into that. So there's this increase in light.
1135
01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:01.159
And because of that, the lay lines are are are
1136
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:06.479
moving on around h h and and and then every
1137
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:11.199
every time we actually go through a solar sheet, the
1138
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.399
lay lines come into coherence, they move together, otherwise they're
1139
01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:17.680
they're moving in a kind of serpentine produce this kind
1140
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:17.920
of thing.
1141
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:19.159
Uh.
1142
01:18:20.319 --> 01:18:24.439
Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. Now you in your email
1143
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:29.199
you mentioned pyramidal dysfunction. What exactly is this and how
1144
01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:30.000
does this tie in?
1145
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.800
Yeah, this is something that really kind of bothers me here.
1146
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:38.840
Uh kind of an alert alert. Uh, A lot of
1147
01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:44.119
work has been done on it. But the Great Pyramid
1148
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:48.199
is the center of one such earth ring and uh
1149
01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:53.119
it's actually a moon ring. There's a lot of rings
1150
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:57.399
coming out of that. But uh it has this uh
1151
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.840
this arc, if you will, we'll go from big to small. Yeah.
1152
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:07.760
Uh so you have oh jeez, where do I start
1153
01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:11.199
with the pyramid? Uh at the point you know.
1154
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:14.520
Started the smallest point right.
1155
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:22.880
Uh So the Pyramid, where it's located, is it's there
1156
01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:25.039
are a lot of to tell if there's an if
1157
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.760
it's an Earth matrix, things point to it, like coastlines
1158
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.000
point to it. In the case of North America, you know,
1159
01:19:32.239 --> 01:19:36.600
the center of North American tectonic plate was pointed to
1160
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:40.159
by the coast of Maine, by the Appalachian Mountains, by
1161
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:46.399
the river patterns, by Manhattan Island. Uh, they all pointed
1162
01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:48.920
to the center point of the North American tectonic plate.
1163
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:57.039
So over in Africa that you know, you have all
1164
01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:59.920
these coastlines and they all point to the Great Pyramid.
1165
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:05.479
The delta of the Great Pyramid is this fan, this
1166
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.680
very regular fan that's been the same way for eons,
1167
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:11.239
and the point of the fan goes right to the
1168
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:15.520
Great Pyramid. And the edge, if you take the edge
1169
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:19.439
of the Great Pyramids, you know, project the edges that
1170
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:24.640
goes out and defines that fan. So the fan is
1171
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:28.800
like itself, is part of that tempo complex of the
1172
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:32.960
Great Pyramid. So the Great Pyramid is this point that's
1173
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:36.560
just sticking up a little bit above the sand, but
1174
01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.840
the rest of it goes through the entire planet, and
1175
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:43.359
you know, it's part of the whole geometric kind of
1176
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:48.840
Mercabo stability field to the planet to maintain the jet
1177
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:54.000
the twenty three point five degree angle of the ecliptic,
1178
01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:57.840
which is a ritual that they would do every year,
1179
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:01.800
they raising the jet and such. So, so you have
1180
01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:07.560
this this pyramid that is you know, the angle of
1181
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:11.960
the pyramid is the bonding angle of water. I don't
1182
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:16.920
know why anybody doesn't. You know, this is really obvious,
1183
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:22.000
but nobody talks about it. And so so it bonds
1184
01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:26.680
to the biasphere. It bonds and it's a consciousness men
1185
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:31.000
as well, you know, top down economics. Uh, you know,
1186
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.239
we got to go through the big Guy in order
1187
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:35.079
to get the God. You know, you have to you
1188
01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:39.479
know it filtered leadership stuff, organizational things that they like
1189
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:41.840
to you know, control people. So you know, I mean
1190
01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:47.760
pyramidal structures, royalty all that, it all is being emanated
1191
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:51.439
out of the Great Pyramid, and it's and it's being
1192
01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:54.960
emanated via the the the lay lines that it sits on.
1193
01:21:55.640 --> 01:21:58.399
So the Great Pyramid is located in a place where
1194
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:03.039
it's the greatest land mass is marked as a central
1195
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:07.960
point with the whole planet. So if you follow that
1196
01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:11.800
X marks the spot that is the Great Pyramid, and
1197
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.399
just imagine those as lay lines and taking them out
1198
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:21.319
over the planet, you'll find some very concerning things, you know,
1199
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:24.640
genocide and such. You know, fifteen million people here, this
1200
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:30.560
kind of thing that happening, you know, the darfour Armenia
1201
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:35.079
and up there in Syria right now, and it's just
1202
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:40.039
this it's kind of like a bloody courage. So when
1203
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:44.239
you project these lines out, one of them goes through
1204
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:49.600
Mecca in the southeast. So it suggests that, you know,
1205
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.560
it's so exact that it suggests that the Great Pyramid
1206
01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:56.800
in Mecca are part of the same temple complex that
1207
01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.199
the ancients had set up because that site was an
1208
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:05.199
ancient moon god ess. You know, the moon got us.
1209
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:10.760
Her name was Allah. Yeah, so the one god that
1210
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:18.399
was Muhammad chose to uh you know, represent all of
1211
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:20.680
them together, you know. So they have this rock there
1212
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:25.239
and everything. But it just in that same So there's
1213
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:28.119
this beat, if you will, a pulse that's set by
1214
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:31.600
that radius from the Great Pyramid to uh.
1215
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:35.760
So in a way, it kind of hornesses human consciousness
1216
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:39.920
and emanates through the planet through these lay lines in
1217
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:40.960
a way, is what you're saying.
1218
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.239
Yeah, there's a there is a kind of like uh
1219
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:49.359
who in who out kind of thing going on where
1220
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:53.239
the information the pyramids taking information via its sides and
1221
01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:59.039
then it's uh, it's transmitted out its edges. So it's
1222
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:02.239
like it's whatever the collective emotion is around it gets
1223
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:05.399
projected out out into the you know, like a like
1224
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:10.039
a donut field that's has it that that's what's going on.
1225
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:14.359
When you have a pyramid and an obelist, it generates
1226
01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:18.880
a relational donut sphere going on there.
1227
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:24.880
That is very interesting. Now what you go ahead.
1228
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:29.520
Just to complete that ring. The Mecca ring has Baghdad
1229
01:24:29.680 --> 01:24:34.479
and Istanbul arms so the Constantinople in the center of
1230
01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:38.760
the g F faith of so that you know, you
1231
01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:43.600
have this ring of Islamic faith right around the Great Pyramids.
1232
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.000
And if you project a uh you know, like one
1233
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:52.600
of the lines goes out and goes through Fukushima, so
1234
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:57.319
that type of genocidal stuff, and another one goes over
1235
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:01.239
here through the through the US, which I don't know
1236
01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:03.279
if you have a lot of Texas listeners.
1237
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:06.119
But I'm in vacation in Texas right now.
1238
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:11.079
But there's a lay line that comes from the Great
1239
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:17.279
Pyramid down the Saint Lawrence seaway. Uh, right by kind
1240
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:21.319
of like down the corridor Austin San Antonio border there
1241
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:23.840
that you know, kind of up just up a little
1242
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:26.720
bit up on the hill there away from it that
1243
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:32.159
quarter and uh that goes down to Durango, Mexico where
1244
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:35.199
the tip of the pyramid comes out. So you know,
1245
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.359
when you projected, if you project the pyramid from you know,
1246
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.359
Cairo through the planet, where that edge point comes out
1247
01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:49.319
is down in Durango, Mexico. And Durango, Mexico is where
1248
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:51.720
all you know, drug cartels are. You know, that's the
1249
01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.720
kind of golden Triangle of Mexico right now.
1250
01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:58.840
Do you think all the pyramids that are around the
1251
01:25:58.880 --> 01:26:02.840
planet had similar are types of purposes?
1252
01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:09.000
I think it was a control grid you know, you
1253
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.680
you that was in place and and it's modeled after
1254
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:20.119
this one. Uh, and it works so good that they said,
1255
01:26:20.119 --> 01:26:23.439
well let's let's let's try it over here for you know,
1256
01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:27.880
our purposes. But it works so good because it was
1257
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:35.159
so tied in with the geophysical, spiritual, bioelectric part you know, water,
1258
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:38.279
you know, it had every you know measure, it was
1259
01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:42.960
just a perfect resonated for for all that. But when
1260
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:48.600
it lost its skin. Uh, it really shifted in a
1261
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.319
big way. It's it's it's it got very degenerated and
1262
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:54.520
that I think the dark Lords took over at that point.
1263
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.119
But it's been quite a fight to to kick them
1264
01:26:58.159 --> 01:27:01.199
out of there and working on it for a few years,
1265
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:06.640
but it really needs to be rebuilt. That's done something
1266
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:07.600
of that nature to it.
1267
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:12.319
Now, you mentioned the the significance of water and also
1268
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:14.800
sacred geometry of water. I was hoping you could talk
1269
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.079
a little bit about that and how that connects to
1270
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:17.800
this as well.
1271
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:23.199
Yeah, everything everything's water. It's it's all everything water based.
1272
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:28.159
And it starts out in the nebula where where you know,
1273
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:31.399
after a sun explodes, there's a nebula phase and then
1274
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.760
it turns into a solar system and and then nemeula phase.
1275
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:39.840
You're there, there's you know that typically nebula is generating
1276
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:44.600
sixty sixty oceans an hour or something like that out there,
1277
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:50.159
and that that water coalesces, bonds together, that collects dust.
1278
01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:54.359
The dust and the water generates gravity. The gravity fields
1279
01:27:54.399 --> 01:28:00.279
then start to spin because of you know, opposing magnetics. Uh,
1280
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:04.319
eventually the sun is sparked and then you have this
1281
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:11.399
this beautiful solar system happening, and uh where was it going?
1282
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:13.000
I got lost in outer space there.
1283
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.439
We're just talking about sacred geometry of water.
1284
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.439
Uh, yeah, it's a galagy. So so water, h if
1285
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:23.920
you take the bonding angle of water, ideal bond is
1286
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:28.960
one oh four point five, But if it fluctuates from
1287
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.800
ninety to one hundred and twenty depending upon the quality
1288
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:34.960
and kind and whether it's heavy water, light water and
1289
01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.640
all different stuff and distilled water, it's all has a
1290
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:43.720
different bonding angle to it. So uh that that one
1291
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:47.560
oh four point five is considered the you know, the best.
1292
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:54.279
So the Great Pyramid has a one o three point
1293
01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:57.279
five angle to its, you know, double sides if you will,
1294
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.920
from the top. You know, so that that that angle
1295
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:04.600
is all but the same angle as water, especially in
1296
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:07.439
the fluctuation. You know the fudge factor if you will,
1297
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:13.600
with water. But water within that that geometric, Uh I
1298
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:16.960
sent you a graphic of that. But within that geometric
1299
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:21.680
there you can find or you can generate. The vesica
1300
01:29:21.720 --> 01:29:25.239
pisces are the the Ichtheus. You know that little Jesus
1301
01:29:25.239 --> 01:29:29.800
Fishency and yeah, so that that's the Ichtheus. But you know,
1302
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:33.199
so it's up on edge. It's generated by two points
1303
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:40.439
generating common arcs and uh, but the whole arrangement with
1304
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.960
where everything touches and meats and it generates this uh
1305
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:51.359
haptagon a pentagon. And then of course the vesica pisces
1306
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:56.920
does all the two two, four, six eight, you know nines,
1307
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.560
that does all those kinds of things. So it's it's
1308
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:03.760
it's a it's the seed molecule. First sacred geometry. So
1309
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:10.920
anything water touches, it generates the geometry. People volcanoes, patterns
1310
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:14.640
of volcanoes. Uh, you know that kind of thing. So
1311
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:17.720
it's holy, you know, it's like it's just like this
1312
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:24.399
miraculous stuff that just transforms matter. And so we have
1313
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.720
down below, underneath the two hundred miles down we have
1314
01:30:27.760 --> 01:30:31.720
this stuff called ringuidite layers. It's four ocean's worth of
1315
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:34.880
water is down there, and every volcano that happens, we
1316
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.479
have this upwelling of water that comes with it. And
1317
01:30:38.840 --> 01:30:44.239
so so where the volcanoes are actually upwelling on the
1318
01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:50.159
African continent, we have a five volcanic vents that that
1319
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:56.880
cohere in a in a pentagon pentagonal form, just out
1320
01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:00.000
of nature. So it's God's you know, it's sacred because
1321
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:05.840
as it's it's generated by nature, not drawn, not not contrived.
1322
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:11.520
It's just you know, like a flowers.
1323
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:15.680
You broke up for a second, what did you say.
1324
01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:21.199
I said, usually just in simple polygons, it's it's not
1325
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:23.760
you know, when you speak of nature. That's a lot
1326
01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:27.319
of you know, the platonic solids have been given a
1327
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:33.840
lot of uh teleplay as the model for the lay
1328
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:35.960
lines of the planet Earth.
1329
01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:36.600
Uh.
1330
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.479
You know the quote Earth grid you see on ancient
1331
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:45.199
aliens and such as. It's a really excellent teaching model,
1332
01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:50.119
geographic teaching model that was developed. But you know, lay
1333
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:54.119
lines I don't feel I haven't found have corresponded to
1334
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:59.920
that particular model. Sometimes you find parallel lines, but it's
1335
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.319
it's it's you know, it's it's become the ubiquitous form
1336
01:32:03.439 --> 01:32:05.920
and an accepted form of what ley lines are. But
1337
01:32:07.159 --> 01:32:11.199
to me, it's so regular it looks like a jail cell. Right.
1338
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.960
It might be something that that they're trying to, you know,
1339
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:18.720
get into the consciousness of the people who are trying
1340
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:22.319
to transform things and kind of trap their consciousness in
1341
01:32:22.319 --> 01:32:26.840
that way. That's that's been discussed that various websites that
1342
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.119
you know that the tree of or the flower of
1343
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.279
life geometry is like a mental trap.
1344
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:36.760
Wow, that's really interesting.
1345
01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:37.239
Now.
1346
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:40.079
Something else you wrote to me in your email was
1347
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:44.880
about the glile brain and the found missing ninety What
1348
01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:45.199
is this?
1349
01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:47.000
Yeah, that's a fun one.
1350
01:32:47.199 --> 01:32:47.920
Yeah, what is it?
1351
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.880
Yeah, that's uh, that was in a salon. We're studying
1352
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:53.479
the gli old book brain, a gaggle of We have
1353
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:57.039
gaggles of giggling gleia all through our bodies. Every every
1354
01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:01.840
neuron has has nine attendant glea cells. So the cottage
1355
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:05.680
cheese in our brain is mostly this. This, uh, this
1356
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:15.439
is glio and it operates on on calcium ions where
1357
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:18.840
where blood is, you know, plasma and iron and all
1358
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:21.239
that other stuff. You know, this glio you know, and
1359
01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:24.119
drink your milk, you know, because you need this calcium
1360
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:31.000
and uh so, uh that's like when they say, oh,
1361
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.399
you only use ten percent of our brain, they're they're
1362
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:37.880
they're talking about the ten percent of the neurons, but
1363
01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.199
they're kind of excluding all this this gray matter as
1364
01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:45.560
being kind of worthless fluff like insulation or something. But
1365
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.800
that that's that's communicating via frequency. It's faster than the
1366
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:53.279
speed of light. Frequency is faster than light. So neurons
1367
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:58.119
work on light and and glia work on frequency. So
1368
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:01.600
we have our head, our our heart, and our stomach
1369
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:05.880
all you know, high concentrates of glas cells in those
1370
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:10.800
three places, so those are our three brains, right, But
1371
01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:13.479
there's glee all you know, there's glea with every neurons,
1372
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:19.159
you know, fingertips whatever. So that's the you know, this
1373
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.760
this one to ninety percent. So you know, we look around, well,
1374
01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.680
what else, well we have we have dark matter is
1375
01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:29.000
you know, on the other side of the fres scale
1376
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.680
where it's no we only know what ten percent of
1377
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:33.760
the matter is and everything else is great. We have
1378
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.439
gravity for ninety percent more matter, but it's not there,
1379
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:39.600
so we call it dark matter. So that that's that's
1380
01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:45.319
like the glia of space, you know, being attended to
1381
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.479
these light forms, you know, these electron suns. So it's
1382
01:34:52.159 --> 01:34:54.960
and and then the other one is we have u
1383
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:59.159
we're all using ten percent of our DNA. Yeah, all
1384
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:08.239
the rest have been you know, yeah, so it's the
1385
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:11.079
same thing. So it's my it's my sense is that
1386
01:35:11.119 --> 01:35:15.479
we use our DNA via our frequency attenuators at leocels
1387
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:21.000
and communicate with all there is all the other you know,
1388
01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:24.840
like the dark matter. So we're receiving information in that
1389
01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:28.600
way all the time, you know, and are that ninety
1390
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:33.000
percent of you know, you know it's DNA. If you
1391
01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.840
if you stretch it out, you take the aggregate length
1392
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:40.439
of the average human body, it goes there's twelve billion
1393
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:44.720
miles of the stuff in US. So that that is
1394
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.880
like that is shoot, that is one antenna system that
1395
01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:52.199
you can you know, connect with the whole heliosphere of
1396
01:35:52.279 --> 01:35:54.600
the planet of the Sun. You know, the Sun reaches
1397
01:35:54.680 --> 01:36:00.800
twelve billion miles. So it's that kind of expanded you know, centeredness,
1398
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:06.000
but connectedness. And I mean that that that that's access
1399
01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:09.680
through the glio body. That's that's the heart, that's the
1400
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:12.560
heart mind if you will be use it. It takes
1401
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:17.760
in the resonant frequencies around you that that you don't
1402
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:21.279
it may not be audible, so so that the glio
1403
01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:25.800
body is what picks up on whatever.
1404
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:29.960
Yeah. So I mean basically there's a connection not only
1405
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.760
to each person, not only to us and the planet,
1406
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.960
but to us and the universe. Really everything is has
1407
01:36:36.039 --> 01:36:40.960
this kind of consciousness connection, right, and.
1408
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:49.680
To say otherwise would be a blasphemy I would think, so, yeah, yeah,
1409
01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:51.600
we get a little sip here.
1410
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:56.159
Sure, yeah. Now I want to talk about the history
1411
01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.600
of the cultural use of stone versus what we're doing
1412
01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:04.800
now with our building methods in construction, and how we
1413
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:10.319
can't even reproduce much of the things that the ancients
1414
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:13.640
did when it came to megalithic construction. Uh, why do
1415
01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.439
you think that is and what was the difference? What
1416
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:18.960
were the how were they using stone? How are the
1417
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:19.840
ancients using this?
1418
01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.800
Well, this kind of leads right into the from the
1419
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:31.359
gliod conversation, leads into that conversation because the planet being
1420
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.159
you know, we're in the image and likeness of the
1421
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:39.520
planet and all that is planet also has glia and
1422
01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:42.199
it's made of calcium, so we have all these like
1423
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:46.239
Texas has made up a lot of calcium deposits, So
1424
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:51.039
that's planet Ganglia. And you go and you go around
1425
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:59.359
the planet, you find like the south of England limestone, Egypt,
1426
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:05.079
limes stone, Jerusalem not limestone south of France lane. I
1427
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:08.800
mean all these places that are sacred sites there have
1428
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:17.359
that planet Leo, that attenuating frequency of limestone helping them.
1429
01:38:17.680 --> 01:38:24.560
So in the past, Uh, you chicken in the egg,
1430
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:29.279
I mean, maybe civilization arose just because of the existence
1431
01:38:29.279 --> 01:38:36.720
of limestone, because it's easy building material. But I tend
1432
01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:40.079
to think that there's a certain you within limestone. There's
1433
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:44.159
this underlayment of water, so when you got underground water,
1434
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:47.399
there's a lot of var texas and lay lines associated
1435
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:49.920
with it. So there's more of a breathing going on
1436
01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.600
within limestone, where granted it's just you know, it's like
1437
01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:57.439
it sends off the electrical current, but you can't really
1438
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:03.439
you know, bathe in it. Uh. So Uh, in the
1439
01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:08.920
ancient times, they recognize that if you use the canons
1440
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:15.359
of sacred geometry, the canons of nature in construction, uh,
1441
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:19.760
you would be creating a building that's in harmony with
1442
01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:23.359
the planet, and it would actually, you know, everything would
1443
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.039
be magnified. You know, that the quality of space would
1444
01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:31.159
be magnified, that the Earth would be magnified, the culture
1445
01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:33.680
itself would be magnified. So they spent a lot of
1446
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.199
energy in creating temples that were you know, really hummet
1447
01:39:37.640 --> 01:39:44.039
and tuned to these these sacred cannons. Uh. As we
1448
01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:47.920
went away from that, uh, there's been this loosening up
1449
01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:51.119
of the connection between culture and matter. You know, the
1450
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:55.439
uh Earth, as Earth has become a commodity that we've
1451
01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:00.600
become very parasitic off of it. H it's kind of
1452
01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:07.960
floating on the surface, but you know, rockets, rockets, rockets,
1453
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.039
heavy stuff, and it's nice drapery now, but it doesn't
1454
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.159
really it doesn't have to serve any of its noble
1455
01:40:14.199 --> 01:40:19.119
purposes as it did in the old times. But cultures
1456
01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:23.720
that that did I complete that thought. Cultures that did
1457
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.760
follow those sacred cannons in the construction tended to have
1458
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:33.960
like a thousand year runs, where those that didn't were
1459
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:37.760
did that two hundred and seventy five, two hundred and
1460
01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:43.760
seventy five year pulse. That that like civilizations.
1461
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.680
Do, yeah, rice and fall just two hundred and something years.
1462
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:51.039
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, So that a good stab at
1463
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:51.399
that one.
1464
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:54.439
Oh yeah, definitely. Now I want to I want to
1465
01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:58.560
talk about you mentioned earlier that the basically the dark
1466
01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:02.840
lords had taken over everything, and I, you know, I
1467
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.520
tend to agree, and I have many guests that have
1468
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:11.000
theories about you know, this this global takeover of our civilization,
1469
01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:18.039
hijacking of not only our governments and corporations, but our consciousness,
1470
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:21.600
and then the way that we're thinking when do you
1471
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:25.119
think that this kind of global takeover occurred. Do you
1472
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:27.199
think it's been for thousands of years or you think
1473
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.640
it's more something more recent within a few hundred years,
1474
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:34.880
that that these you like you call them dark lords
1475
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:35.319
took over.
1476
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:47.840
H Yeah, I think when now we had a yeah, beautiful,
1477
01:41:48.039 --> 01:41:54.359
thriving planet and then we got hit with this last catastrophe,
1478
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:57.800
and you know, we see the remnant of this old
1479
01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:00.760
civilization at three hundred and fifty feet you know, off
1480
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:04.000
on the off on the continental shelves, these old cities
1481
01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:07.479
out there, pyramids under the you know, by Cuba and
1482
01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:09.560
a lot of different places. You know, it was a
1483
01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:14.039
it was a beautiful planet. It had you know, it
1484
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:18.359
had an ice canopy that was protected from radiations, so
1485
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:26.720
floor and fine thrive. But when all that collapsed, it just, uh,
1486
01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:33.880
it generated this kind of degenerated degenerated uh. You know,
1487
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:37.079
everything was in upheaval. You know, so before everything was connected,
1488
01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:40.640
you had the system of of of pyramids. They're all
1489
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.279
kind of interacting and and and and and you know,
1490
01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:46.800
enlivening the planet themselves, enlivening the magnet field of the planet,
1491
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:48.840
and everything was kind of like working together. And then
1492
01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:54.279
when these things collapsed, just just like uh uh, like
1493
01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.520
the logical system that collapses. You get these sparks coming
1494
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:01.840
off these different places and and is uh you know,
1495
01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:07.399
lack of coherence and all those things that that that
1496
01:43:07.399 --> 01:43:11.840
that that happens when systems break down. So that's when
1497
01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.319
you know, so there's this remnant that's still there, but
1498
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:19.880
it's it's a remnant that's that's kind of chugging along
1499
01:43:20.479 --> 01:43:25.720
in a in a collapse state, in a in a
1500
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:31.279
state of entropy. So states of entropy is where the
1501
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:38.520
dark Lords thrive. And so we get fast by these
1502
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:40.760
you know, we are fascinated by the past and the
1503
01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:45.800
state entery. I'm sorry, it's like getting energy to this
1504
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:50.399
past collapse when when we need to step forward into
1505
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:53.880
into a new relationship with planet that that's that's not
1506
01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:58.880
based on on on this collapse system that that you
1507
01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:02.960
know when Haywire back five thousand years ago, six thousand
1508
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:03.720
years ago.
1509
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:06.800
You think this this collapse was a was was a
1510
01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.199
was a natural type of cataclysm or or something more intentional.
1511
01:44:12.840 --> 01:44:20.359
Uh. It's people have conjectured, uh channeled uh that there
1512
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:28.159
was the passing of planet x uh and that stripped
1513
01:44:28.520 --> 01:44:32.520
the planet of its atmosphere because of the debris there was.
1514
01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:38.560
You know, it's simply you know, when you look at
1515
01:44:38.560 --> 01:44:43.560
the Bible, you know, oh, the Bible's fact. And Methuseloi
1516
01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:45.880
lived to be a thousand years old, and David was
1517
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:49.000
seventy years when he died. So it was a uh,
1518
01:44:49.319 --> 01:44:52.159
in the old times you got to live longer. Then
1519
01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.640
there was this flood, and after the flood you could
1520
01:44:56.159 --> 01:45:00.800
ferment grapes. Before the flood you could not ferment grapes.
1521
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.680
So that meant that there was more radiation heading the planet.
1522
01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:10.479
So and so everybody started to die younger and and
1523
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:14.479
and because of that new condition that new the the
1524
01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:18.399
the off world civilizations that were you know, like here,
1525
01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:21.880
uh you know, doing its thing split because it was
1526
01:45:21.960 --> 01:45:28.479
no longer viable for their type of biologies. You know
1527
01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.840
that they couldn't handle a radiation. But us, you know,
1528
01:45:32.039 --> 01:45:35.079
kind of like slaves that were developed not to die,
1529
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:39.520
you know, no matter what condition. You know, I mean
1530
01:45:39.560 --> 01:45:44.800
tough humans now who were who were given free will
1531
01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:48.600
by the Syrians, you know, who put some silica in
1532
01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:54.960
our in our systems to develop consciousness. You know, it's
1533
01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:00.520
it's been quite a history, but I think that's why
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01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:03.760
they why et doesn't really come home.
1535
01:46:04.439 --> 01:46:07.199
So do you think that that that the aninochy mythos
1536
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:10.560
may be somewhat accurate that we were kind of tinkered
1537
01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:14.319
with our DNA or genetics may have been advanced by
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01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:16.760
an advanced off planet species.
1539
01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:23.560
Yeah, I adhere to one or two uh theories, you
1540
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:29.760
know that one I Yeah, you know from un understanding, Uh,
1541
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:35.359
the Achy weren't that grade of manipulators of d N
1542
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:41.760
A so that they employed the Syrian people geneticists to
1543
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:45.279
create us, but they would not create a human species
1544
01:46:45.359 --> 01:46:50.520
with without you know, they Onochy wanted automatons and the
1545
01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:54.640
Syrians would not do that. They wouldn't create a new
1546
01:46:54.680 --> 01:47:01.159
species without giving them the ability to develop consciousness. So
1547
01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:04.840
that's where we came from. Okay, there's that one. Then
1548
01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:07.479
the other one is that there you know, every time
1549
01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:11.479
we go through one of these uh these galactic sheets,
1550
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:14.880
there's an upgrade in our DNA that happens because of
1551
01:47:14.920 --> 01:47:22.720
the light path and and that that that evolves us, right,
1552
01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:28.800
and there are certain like frequency codes within this uh
1553
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.520
these sheets that comes out from the galactic center that's
1554
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:35.880
just informing all the planets, uh, you know, to activate
1555
01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:39.720
these dnn E codes, you know, to to do their thing,
1556
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:44.319
just to grow, and it's a beautiful thing.
1557
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:46.319
Do you think that we're going through a period of
1558
01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:49.680
time like that at this time where people's consciousnesses are
1559
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:55.199
expanding and evolving because of some of this cosmic energy? Possibly?
1560
01:47:56.119 --> 01:48:00.960
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, you know there is ah you know, oh,
1561
01:48:01.039 --> 01:48:05.680
we were entering the photon belt was about fifteen years ago,
1562
01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:08.560
it was about twenty twelve or something, but we're really
1563
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:13.439
starting to enter it now to actually go through. Yeah,
1564
01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.680
I think what what you know with these troughs and
1565
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:21.720
mountains of energy of these plasma sheets that we fly through,
1566
01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:26.600
the spinning around the galaxy, I think there's there's one
1567
01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:29.720
as positive the ones negative. Then you have a transition
1568
01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:33.640
zone between and when you're in that transition zone, that's
1569
01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:37.359
that's when you get you know, hit with these light
1570
01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:40.560
codes and then you work it out in this in
1571
01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:44.319
this next twelve thousand year period. So I'm thinking that
1572
01:48:44.319 --> 01:48:48.439
we're heading into a good twelve thousand year period and
1573
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:53.520
our light codes are all being up upgraded, you know.
1574
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:57.279
I mean, yes, there is global warming. Is our global
1575
01:48:57.760 --> 01:49:02.279
environmental collapse as being is that asturbated by humans, But
1576
01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:08.119
the entire system is warming up and heating up, and
1577
01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:11.600
Mars is melting, you know. I mean it's just showing
1578
01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.079
that there's an increase of light. As a kid, you know,
1579
01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.359
the front to cap this off, as a kid, I'd
1580
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:18.399
paint the orange sun. Now I'd have to say it
1581
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:23.119
was titanium. I mean, there's a definite increase of light
1582
01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:26.880
hitting the Earth now, and that's bound to transform anything
1583
01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:27.399
and everything.
1584
01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.800
Well along the same lines of you know, cosmic energy
1585
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:35.119
hitting the planet. We were talking about resets and cataclysms
1586
01:49:35.159 --> 01:49:37.560
earlier that may have wiped out a good portion of
1587
01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:39.840
life on the planet. Do you think that we maybe
1588
01:49:40.119 --> 01:49:43.760
do for another type of reset in within our lifetime?
1589
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:49.239
Yeah, it's just a tough planet. Yeah, just about get
1590
01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:52.000
up and get on the bicycle and boom, here comes
1591
01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:55.600
another catastrophe right right now? How do we drive this
1592
01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:58.960
planet through all these cycles of catastrophes that we have
1593
01:49:59.079 --> 01:50:04.279
that just destroy It's not it's starting up again, you know. Yeah.
1594
01:50:05.479 --> 01:50:10.600
Uh but uh yeah, catastrophes.
1595
01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.319
I mean, do you think we're dover do you think
1596
01:50:14.319 --> 01:50:16.319
we're overdue for the next big one?
1597
01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:23.600
Yeah? Uh, And that's evident in the electromagnetic field of
1598
01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:30.920
the planet. You know when when after a catastrophe, you know,
1599
01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:35.640
a cataclysm, the the magnetic field of the planet goes
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01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:40.319
to a very coherent north and south demarcation, you know,
1601
01:50:40.640 --> 01:50:47.399
very strong electromagnetic charge. And prior to just prior to
1602
01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:51.800
cataclysm happening, all those charges get all mixed up, you know,
1603
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:54.880
the plus and the minus, and you get these like
1604
01:50:55.039 --> 01:51:00.760
mid Atlantic uh anomaly or South Atlantic anomaly in the
1605
01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:04.199
Indian Ocean anomaly and all that just uh.
1606
01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:06.560
Uh.
1607
01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:12.399
You know, she tries to find coherence. So in order
1608
01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:15.319
to do that, it has to change polarity. Now, when
1609
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:20.079
you change polarity, you change spin. Uh. You know, like
1610
01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:23.880
if you were to reverse wires on a dynamo, the
1611
01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:29.239
dynamo was spinning the opposite direction. And that's what Harvard's
1612
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:35.880
Harvard uh Professor Emeritus of Astrophysics said would happen if
1613
01:51:35.960 --> 01:51:40.000
if the polls shifted like plus became minus, it would
1614
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.039
have to stop and make this adjustment. So when you
1615
01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.760
make that adjustment, you're going to have this cataclysmic thing.
1616
01:51:45.880 --> 01:51:51.760
Like geologists have have puzzled that the andes looks like
1617
01:51:52.760 --> 01:51:57.520
it was thrown up in the day, in a single day.
1618
01:51:56.920 --> 01:52:00.079
But you know, so it's like when that when and
1619
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:05.000
I think torques and changes, our entire surface gets all
1620
01:52:05.039 --> 01:52:08.640
that rock granted, and everything gets kind of like push
1621
01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:14.000
together and uh and gets an increase of pasio electric energy.
1622
01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:20.119
It is generated within the membrane field that then can
1623
01:52:20.600 --> 01:52:25.279
work in consort with the inner core to generate a
1624
01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:30.760
stable field. So, uh, the only way I can think
1625
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:35.800
of to uh be able to do this, you know,
1626
01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:38.119
like not have to have the Earth go through it
1627
01:52:39.560 --> 01:52:41.439
and for us to be able to continue driving, and
1628
01:52:41.560 --> 01:52:45.239
we have to contribute that electromagnetic crazy frequently that those
1629
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:51.640
electromagnetic energies to the planet in order to uh enliven
1630
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.479
it without having to go through these big changes. So
1631
01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:59.960
and that's that's the that's the job of Earth run,
1632
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:05.680
that's the job of these circular forms on planet.
1633
01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:10.680
Do you think that it's possible that there are powerful
1634
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.399
forces on this planet that have already known that we
1635
01:53:13.439 --> 01:53:16.279
are overdue for a cataclysm, know that we may be
1636
01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:19.800
facing one within our lifetime, and have already put in
1637
01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:23.520
measures to maybe start countering this. I know that there's
1638
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.640
some theories that what they're spraying in the sky is
1639
01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:29.239
to kind of stop this Grand Solar minimum the effects
1640
01:53:29.800 --> 01:53:33.079
from occurring you know you mentioned the magnetic field. I know,
1641
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:36.920
our magnetic field is rapidly moving towards Siberia. So the
1642
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.760
magnetic field has already started to flip, and I know
1643
01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:41.640
once it gets to a certain point, there's going to
1644
01:53:41.720 --> 01:53:45.159
be no stopping it. It will reverse. So I'm wondering
1645
01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:47.800
if you if you think that there maybe there are
1646
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:51.239
members of our elite government that already know about this
1647
01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:54.840
and maybe trying to stop it or slow it down,
1648
01:53:54.920 --> 01:53:56.600
or maybe just get the hell off the planet.
1649
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:10.560
Mm hm, well you know, uh I I you know,
1650
01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:13.840
my my my senses, uh yeah, you know, they they
1651
01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:17.640
want to hold on to their control and this incoming light.
1652
01:54:18.479 --> 01:54:22.000
You know, we're going back to the circle. You know
1653
01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:25.359
that there there's and that's the most dangerous that that's
1654
01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:28.920
what was most dangerous about the Native American people. It's
1655
01:54:29.039 --> 01:54:34.600
because of their their direct relation with with creator, you know,
1656
01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:39.760
and uh and you know they're trying to hold onto
1657
01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:43.000
their powers and that you know, we're returning to the circle,
1658
01:54:43.039 --> 01:54:45.439
which is just the expression of this planet. You know,
1659
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:51.319
it's it's inevitable. So that this you know, so it's
1660
01:54:51.359 --> 01:54:53.319
like we've got to get out of this this pyramidal
1661
01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:57.640
frame of mind, because they'll always do that. Then they
1662
01:54:57.680 --> 01:54:58.960
always have done that.
1663
01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:03.920
Right, Yeah, they definitely have to to keep their control
1664
01:55:03.960 --> 01:55:10.760
by any means. Peer peer is the definitely controller. Definitely. Now,
1665
01:55:11.119 --> 01:55:14.479
I've really enjoyed this, Peter, that was fantastic information. Before
1666
01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:18.319
you we close out tonight, is there anything else important
1667
01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:21.399
that we should discuss about some of these topics.
1668
01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.960
Uh, well, I would just like to close and saying
1669
01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:33.039
that I offer these as a way in which to
1670
01:55:34.039 --> 01:55:37.680
release a lot of collective trauma that's in land. Uh
1671
01:55:38.199 --> 01:55:40.800
you know, well, I like the releasing the trauma of
1672
01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.880
the native experience over the last five hundred years really
1673
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:46.960
needs to be a trust and uh you know it's
1674
01:55:47.039 --> 01:55:53.199
through uh you know, working with uh you know, working
1675
01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.520
with these sacred sides. I think that we can we
1676
01:55:55.560 --> 01:56:01.119
can do that. And uh yeah, I believe that that
1677
01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:06.479
this is a tool for environmental stabilization and harmony. We've
1678
01:56:06.560 --> 01:56:09.920
used it in the past to make your reign successfully,
1679
01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:16.159
so uh, you know, getting some kind of support and
1680
01:56:16.600 --> 01:56:19.239
patronage to you know, I mean I don't play all
1681
01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:23.000
the different it all stuff, but you know, if there's
1682
01:56:23.039 --> 01:56:26.840
a metagy out there somewhere that you know resonates just
1683
01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:29.680
what I'm saying with this work, I think we can
1684
01:56:30.319 --> 01:56:35.039
really uh do a lot towards, you know, bringing an
1685
01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:38.199
environmental harmony impact to the planet.
1686
01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:42.800
Yes, excellent. Now, if people would like to find out
1687
01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.800
more about yourself, your work, your books, what's the best
1688
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:46.560
way that they can do?
1689
01:56:46.640 --> 01:56:50.039
So? Yeah, I just google my name. That pretty much
1690
01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:52.000
comes up. It's either me or a couple of hockey
1691
01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:53.199
players from Canada.
1692
01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:57.840
Right awesome. I will also leave the links in the
1693
01:56:57.880 --> 01:56:58.960
description that.
1694
01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:03.359
You said geometry place. I've done a lot of studies
1695
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:06.560
that are on my website. I desperately need to upgrade
1696
01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:09.680
my website and publish all these various articles I've done
1697
01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:12.640
over the years and have that all available, and I
1698
01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:15.319
just I try to have it all available. You can.
1699
01:57:16.560 --> 01:57:19.479
My book is available on Google Play. Guy a matrix
1700
01:57:20.720 --> 01:57:27.520
my name and download it for quick like otherwise you
1701
01:57:27.560 --> 01:57:30.479
know it's it's I sell them. And there's a few sites,
1702
01:57:30.479 --> 01:57:32.159
two sites that also sell the book.
1703
01:57:33.560 --> 01:57:34.760
Wonderful man.
1704
01:57:34.840 --> 01:57:38.439
I'm working on I'm working on the Encyclopedia of Earth rings,
1705
01:57:38.600 --> 01:57:40.920
trying to get it out before all my gray hair
1706
01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:41.479
falls out.
1707
01:57:41.640 --> 01:57:43.920
Oh that's great. Yeah, Well, I'd love to talk to
1708
01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:46.600
you again when you get that out. UH. This is
1709
01:57:46.720 --> 01:57:50.039
fantastic information, a lot of stuff that I've never heard before,
1710
01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:52.399
and I'm sure the audience is going to find this fascinating.
1711
01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:54.920
So Peters, thank you so much for coming on, and
1712
01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:56.880
I'd love to talk to you again soon in the future.
1713
01:57:58.039 --> 01:57:59.279
Thank you, and.
1714
01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:01.800
Until next time, and have an excellent evening. We will
1715
01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:03.159
talk again Monday.
1716
01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:16.439
We get a little tiny taste of this reality, we
1717
01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:18.840
tend to spend it in a way that causes the
1718
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:23.520
least amount of existential harm to ourselves. So religious person
1719
01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:25.920
would see angels, and they would they would maybe find
1720
01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:30.359
comfort in that. A person that has anxiety about the
1721
01:58:30.399 --> 01:58:33.439
abduction phenomena may see aliens and would put a very
1722
01:58:33.479 --> 01:58:36.199
negative spin on that, And then a person who is
1723
01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:39.600
perhaps more secular might just think of it as an
1724
01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:42.079
interesting experience that and not put a tremendous amount of
1725
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:45.039
value on it at all. So our own biases, our
1726
01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:50.720
own UH, our own culture, our own optics really drive
1727
01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:55.520
the UH the experience. And there's another theory that we
1728
01:58:55.680 --> 01:59:02.079
actually project the experiences from ourselves. Now we're actually causing
1729
01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:06.720
this thought form to manifest in a way that's more agreeable.
1730
01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:11.319
When a positive or extremely terrifying on the negative.
1731
01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:16.720
One of Jocque Roley's perspectives on this that he shared
1732
01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:19.079
with Jail and Heinik as well as Sternce mckinna decided
1733
01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:21.840
the psychedelics into this part of the conversation because it's
1734
01:59:21.880 --> 01:59:25.079
been viewed from all of it. It is that this
1735
01:59:25.239 --> 01:59:28.880
is possibly a psycho semantic one and within that framework,
1736
01:59:28.960 --> 01:59:30.800
it calls back to what we talked about about the
1737
01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:33.720
subjectivity of this realm in general. Whatever this place is,
1738
01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:35.880
it's very personal to you. We could see this in
1739
01:59:35.880 --> 01:59:41.000
the form of synchronicities to preferences and music, foods, things
1740
01:59:41.039 --> 01:59:43.560
like this, like this place is very tailored to you,
1741
01:59:43.640 --> 01:59:46.199
and you will gravitate towards the things that are calling
1742
01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.520
you in a direction of your mission based on just
1743
01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:52.399
preferences that you have. We could see how already your
1744
01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:57.399
interpretation and experience of this reality, even amongst the myriad
1745
01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:00.520
of options, is going to be radically different than anyone else,
1746
02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:03.600
not because it's different because you have the same things
1747
02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:06.600
to choose, but what you're attracted to, your experience of
1748
02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:10.119
those things, why you saw that versus this. These kind
1749
02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:14.239
of things are fascinating. They seem to play out in
1750
02:00:14.680 --> 02:00:17.560
very radically different scenarios based on the individual as well.
1751
02:00:17.880 --> 02:00:20.600
Some people say they had a fantastic time. These people
1752
02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:23.079
all they heal everyone, They let me drive the craft around.
1753
02:00:23.319 --> 02:00:25.439
They picked up a bunch of people from a volcano
1754
02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:28.319
before it exploded and saved all these people. They're here
1755
02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:30.359
to help us. They tell us that we should be
1756
02:00:30.359 --> 02:00:32.800
taking better care of the planet. And who knows if
1757
02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:35.600
the entities themselves were having a rough day. Who knows
1758
02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:38.720
if the person's interpretation of the experience is radically different
1759
02:00:38.720 --> 02:00:42.319
than what actually happened, but for whatever reason had a
1760
02:00:42.319 --> 02:00:45.600
really bad time with it and they get traumatized. There
1761
02:00:45.640 --> 02:00:49.960
is a difference between contact and abduction, and they are
1762
02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:52.680
viewed that way by the participant, by the occupant, and
1763
02:00:52.840 --> 02:00:55.439
again that's subjective. In nature. You can either say that
1764
02:00:55.479 --> 02:00:57.479
you're being taken on a wonderful ride or that they
1765
02:00:57.720 --> 02:00:59.960
stole you and that you didn't want to go willingly.
1766
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:05.399
Who's who's controlling that, because some people in the community
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will say, then, well, you at a level decided that
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this was the kind of contact that you wanted, but
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you had to forget when you came here, and you
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just need to trust that your soul made that agreement.
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I have some challenges with that intellectually and emotionally for
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me personally. But there are some people who get by
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just fine on that, and there are some people who
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have had wonderful times after being contacted. The ability of
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these entities to perception manage how you feel about an
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experience with them, I don't know how I feel about that.
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The extraterrestrial alien abduction phenomena has become much more acceptable
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in our modern society, especially after the recent events surrounding UFOs,
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like congressional hearings, mass media coverage, and even widely reported sightings.
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For weeks now, New Jersey resident has been played by
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unexplained drones lying overhead.
1782
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Dozens of reports of unauthorized drones flying in the skies.
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Unconfirmed reports of drone activity. We have no idea what
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it is. If it's a natural phenomenon. At least four
1785
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commercial pilots reported mysterious bright lights.
1786
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Reports of small, coarsized drones hovering over New York and
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New Jersey.
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The government is actually lying. The government knows what is happening.
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Something strange is going on. For some reason, they don't
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want to tell the people.
1791
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There seems to be different sides of the UFO Alien enigma,
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what you see on TV, the news, and in movies,
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and what people experience for themselves.