FKN Classics Double Feature! David Icke - Transhumanism | Michael Wann - Ruling Class Rituals

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Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes.
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Today's guest needs a little introduction. I want to welcome
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back David Ike. He is author of over twenty books numerous DVDs.
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He's a researcher and has lectured in over twenty countries
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around the world, speaking up for up to ten hours
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to audiences.
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David, welcome back. How are you doing.
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I'm good, mate. Actually it's it's it's more than twenty now,
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I said, I've been around a long time, you know,
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I'm old, right.
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Yeah. I figured that might have been a little different.
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Loads of different countries, some of them translated. I remember.
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I remember once, just very quickly, I was speaking in
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Italy and I thought that what they would have was
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earphones for people for the translation. So I walk out
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on the stage I'm about to do ten hours, and
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I realized they weren't doing it. What they were doing
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was having the translators speak over the theater in Italian
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while I'm speaking in English. So as I got to
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the end of a sentence in English, I was hearing
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it back in Italian at the start of the sentence.
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And this went on for ten hours. So I will
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never forget that day in my life.
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I'll tell you, Yeah, I bet you have some amazing
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stories when it comes to stuff like that. Yeah, Now,
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welcome back. Thank you so much again for coming back
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on the show. It's been a couple of years since
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we last spoke, and so much has happened. Of course,
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in the beginning of twenty twenty, we were living in
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a completely different world. By March and April things started
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to take a completely dramatic turn, with agenda after a
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gender rolling out alongside this pandemic. Now it's a year
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later and we're living in this strange new reality where
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you can get yelled at and shamed for leaving.
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Your house without a mask.
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You're restricted from participating in certain aspects of daily life
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if you're not getting these vaccine and I'm sure soon
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much worse, travel restrictions and of course distribution of these
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vaccine passports and an emerging social credit system, it seems.
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And that's just a tiny piece of what we're seeing
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rolling out right now. I'd like to know, is this
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how you expected things to be progressing at this time
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according to all these agendas that are at play.
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Well, yes, because you know what's happened since the turn
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of twenty twenty, has been prepared for for decades and
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decades and dec I'm not kidding. I mean, you know,
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the people behind this, if I can call them, that
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are operating on a completely different level of knowledge, in
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a completely different timeline really in the sense of in
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the world of the population people you know, see things
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a certain amount into the future, not very far. But
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this global cultures I call it, this global network of
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secret society is semi secret groups and satanic groups which
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has an interlocking leadership. They are working to a very
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different timeline with a very long projected future. So you've
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got the population going about their business. And the thing
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about population from the cult's point of view, they have
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to be denied knowledge. They have to be denied knowledge
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about the nature of reality, so they don't understand how
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reality works, and therefore they're at the mercy of something
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they don't understand. And the other thing, of course, is
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that they mustn't be allowed to know what the agenda
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for them is, what this where this is leading. So
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what you've got is a timeline in the world of
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the population that you know thinks about the middle of
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next week or holiday next year, where they used to.
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And then you've got this other world, which is this
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network of secret societies which at it's in a core
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because it's all massively compartmentalized, only the relative few know
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the whole picture. They are planning and have been planning
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decades and decades and decades ahead. And because you've got
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this difference between knowledge and therefore possibility, not these technological
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possibles you have had in this cult reality, the knowledge
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of technology that was going to unfold in the future.
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And so when you then look at what older Suxley
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wrote in Brave New World in nineteen thirty two that
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was published, and then you see we're all well wrote
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in nineteen forty eight. And people I've quoted in my
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books and the Way back insiders who were predicting where
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the world was going, they were able to not just
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describe the world that we're now in, but they were
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able to describe, not least Huxley, the kind of technology
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and chemical manipulation that we're now seeing. Also, And if
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you can tap into this other world by working your
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backside off for thirty years, you can at least get
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a massive amount of understanding of where the world's being
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being taken so all along we have been led to
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this moment, and this other world has done the leading,
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and up to the turn of twenty twenty, it's basically
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kept it under the radar because it you know, don't
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go to early, don't reveal your hand to early. So
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they've been preparing and preparing on so many levels we
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can talk about up to the start of twenty twenty.
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And then they went for it. And you know, I've
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used this analogy before of you know, you're in the
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pack in a say, a three thousand meter race, five
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thousand meter race, and then you come to the final
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lap or the back straight, and you go for it.
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You go for the line. And when you go for
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the line, you've got to get there because if people
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catch you up, they're probably going to go past you
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and you're not going to win the race. And it's
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a similar situation that we're facing here. Once they stepped
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into the room, once they revealed their hand, more and
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more through twenty twenty, but they had to move quickly,
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and it's a race of locking everything down and controlling everything,
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not least technologically, before enough people have woken up and
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seen what the hell's going on now? We are making
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progress in that regard, nothing like as fast as I'd
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like to see it, but we are making progress in
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that way. And that's why you know, we're working hours
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we can to try to alert people to how these
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dots connect and what is actually going on. And it's
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not random, and it's all been planned a very long time.
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And you know, you you have Huxley talking about the
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the creation of a new human that doesn't procreate. Well,
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that's what we're that's what we're going into. He knew
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about that all that, all those all those decades ago,
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because it's long planned. And what happens is you've got
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this level of knowledge here which is operating in the
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underground basis and the secret projects that's got technology and
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has had technology way back that today as it plays
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out is considered cutting edge, but they knew about it
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way back because they've been preparing for this time technologically.
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And so when something is you know, plays out in
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the public arena, like an AI technological smart technology that's
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about surveillance, about control, about getting nicro trips in the
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body and stuff, yeah it comes out, oh this is
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the latest thing, but it wasn't the latest thing for
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the cult, because the cult's had it for a very,
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very long time. That's how you know, people have known
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about the technology that was coming way before it actually
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it actually came out. And the preparation has even got
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into the detail of preparing psychologically the people in authority
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and the people in law enforcement. You know, I've been
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tracking this now for again decades where the dynamic between
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law enforcement and officialdom, authority and the public has been
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demonstrably changing from one of service and serving the public
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to one of seeing the public as the enemy and
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something to be subdued, something to be controlled. And there
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have been organizations There's one that started out in Britain
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called Common Purpose which is now global, which do training
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courses for people in authority, and they use techniques like
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neuro linguistic programming and other techniques to prepare people they
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call them Common Purpose Graduates, to prepare them psychologically for
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this time. And it's from the cold point of view
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it's played out brilliantly because the attitude of authority and
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law enforcement, great chunks of it anyway, to the public
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since this started in twenty twenty has been absolutely disgraceful.
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The public are now the enemy. They're there to be subdued.
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They're there to be controlled, to be imposed upon. So
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all these different elements have been prepared for a long
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time because just I'll finish with this answer here that
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this cult doesn't like surprises. It doesn't like states of flux.
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It's very uneasy with states of flux where it could
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go either way. If it was involved in a football match,
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it would want to control both sides and the referee
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so it knew the score before the game started. That's
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what I'm talking about in terms of not wanting surprises.
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That's why it uses mind control so much. It uses
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so many mind controlled people to do its bidding because
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then they're controllable and there's no surprises with a mind
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control person who's operating according to program. And so what
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we need to do is give them some bloody surprises.
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And I think they've had a few already, but they
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need a lot more.
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Yeah, I would agree.
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And it seems like they're moving too fast for people,
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and people are just waking up and seeing the mistakes
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that are being made, because it seems it appears they're
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trying to rush through this and implement these agendas in
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such a speedy way that people are catching on and saying, well, look,
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there's something going on here. Do you think that's what's
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a part of what's happening, That's.
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Part of what's happening. Yes, And you know, we mustn't
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give these people too much credit for being too bright,
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you know, they to understand the psychology of the cult
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is to understand so much about what's going on. See,
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these people are not omnipotent and all powerful. That's what
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they try to convince us they are, so we'll think, oh,
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there's no point you know what they say resistance is
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futile because they want us to believe that, so that
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we're just, oh, there's nothing you can do. They're all
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two power. They're not. They're pathetic. And what they've done
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systematically because they are so limited, they've had to put
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humanity in a smaller perceptual box than they're it. And
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it's that it's summed up by in the Kingdom of
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the Blind, the one eyed man is king. They are
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the one eyed man, and they've had to make humans
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blind for that to control them. And they're terrified of
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humanity waking up not just to this agenda, but to
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the true power that we have to create our own
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reality and to mold our own reality instead of life
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living us, which is what happens when the cult's in charge.
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We live life by taking control of our lives and
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understanding that we have the power to do that. They
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have to convince the target population that they have no
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power and there's nothing they can do, so they have
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to do as they're told and look to their betters
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who are more intelligent than they are. That's the that's
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the dynamic they want us to believe in. And it
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is a fast it's a fraud. It's not like that
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at all. And the the the fear that this cult
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constantly lives with is one of exposure and one of
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humanity awakening, waking, awakening to its true power and and
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and through that awakening to actually what the game is.
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And you know, they're showing us how little power they
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have all the time with their censorship. You know, I'm
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censored from all these major platforms. I've been for a
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long time now. And I'm one guy sitting in this
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uh this flat, little flat in the yard of white
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in England, and they're so terrified to me that they
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have to censor me. Now, if they were all powerful
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They wouldn't care about me. They wouldn't care what I said,
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because they're all powerful. They wouldn't care about some kid
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in his back bedroom is putting out things that to
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do with you know, the way the world's manipulated. They
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won't be frightened at him or her. No, but they are.
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And the more they censor, and as we're seeing now,
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their COVID narrative is so ridiculous, it's so tenuous, it's
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so unsupportable by the evidence that they're having to now
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to defend it so only way they can. They can't
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do it with evidence. They're now censoring and deleting people
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who for the mildest, mildest criticism. They put an organization
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in Britain Facebook. They suspended them for using an interview
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with a woman who was describing what happened to her
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husband when he had this fake vaccine put him in
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a neurological ward and she was describing what happened. Suspension
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because the narrative, the COVID narrative, is so ridiculous. They
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know it's ridiculous that they're they're terrified of it being exposed,
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and so their censorship gets more and more childlike and ludicrous.
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They're telling us they have no power. And when the
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penny drops and we realize where the power is, then
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this game is over. I mean, you know how many
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people we have, We must be getting on towards now
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eight billion people, and the number of people that are
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behind this in full knowledge You're probably get in a
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single room and you know the answers staring is in
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the face. And the thing is they know it is
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they know that any moment their game could be over.
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one of these amusement games, trying to knock people on
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the head with a hammer when they when they stick
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their heads up, trying to trying to stop the public
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waking up. But what I'm seeing now, I don't know
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about you, is we've reached a stage where people in
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the system are now starting to get it. And you know,
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people will use every excuse and every explanation they can
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short of actually it's a freaking conspiracy, and it's conspiracy
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to do horrible things to the human race. They don't
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want to go there, obviously, so they give they give
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the benefit of the doubts all this. Oh no, they're
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just they're just idiots. They're doing this because they're idiots,
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and they're doing this because they're incompetent, and they're doing
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that because they want to make money. But after over
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a year of this, more and more of them are saying,
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I can't explain it away like that now. As what
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one guy said, Michael yedon a form of Feiser executive
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and chief scientific Advisor, I cannot think of a benevolent
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reason why they are rolling out these vaccines. And once
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you cross that point, when there is no other explanation
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except it's a conspiracy, that's when the penny drops and
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you start to see it, and you know there are
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more and more people in the system that are getting
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it because they can't explain it away any longer in
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any other way except this was all planned, which of
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course some of us have known about for a long.
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this censorship and the cancel culture. It's such a powerful
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weapon being used by the media and social media right now.
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It's keeping a majority of the people in the dark.
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We're only seeing one side of the story. I mean,
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how far do you think this can go. We're actually
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a racing a portion of our history. Future generations won't
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know what happened. I mean, it's not much different than now.
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our history books have been altered, and you know, our
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education system is terrible. But these these people have been
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doing an amazing job demonizing freethinking individuals. If you question
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a narrative, you're either crazy or a conspiracy theorist, or
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now a racist or even QAnon supporter, which equals crazy.
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op to kind of elicit this type of response. What
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do you think about that?
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One? I knew QAnon was a scam because I heard
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it before. I heard it maybe three or four times
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before or over the last thirty years, where the same narrative,
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the same story, the same plan was played out, and
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so the others or they were going to arrest the
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bad guys. Well those bad guys were never arrested, but
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they played it out again. And as more and more
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people wake up, of course and start to question everything
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that they can, they can play things out that they've
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used before because the people just waking up won't know
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they've played played them out before. So QAnon was a
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trap to a say to people. And this is a
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constant theme with these these different versions of the same thing.
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You don't have to do anything for us. The plan,
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well we actually do. And the other thing was that
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was to create a situation in which people were demonized.
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Who were They're what I call pushbackers, that they were demonized.
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was a trap. The question I have is how much
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did Trump know? How much didn't he know? But I
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think it was definitely a trap. You know when you
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look at Trump and he was facing the best part
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of twenty people before and after the primaries to run
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for the presidential nomination in the Republican Party, and we
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were told the Republican Party, you know, didn't like Trump
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and didn't want Trump. Well, we saw with Hillary Clinton
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and the wiki leak's emails, etc. That were leaked that
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the Democratic Party had no problems stitching up Bernie Sanders
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internally to make sure that Clinton got the nomination. And
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if the republic Can Party hierarchy had wanted to stop
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Trump getting the nomination, then he wouldn't have got it.
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But he got it. And not only that he won
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the he won the election and the whole thing goes
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back to a guy called Saul O Lynsky. I mean,
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what I'm saying is the way this has played out.
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Saul Olinsky. If people haven't come across him, he was
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a so called community leader in Chicago. He was a Marxist,
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and he wrote a book called Rules for Radicals about
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how you transform a society into a Marxist society. And
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one of his key golden rules was that you don't
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focus your attention on faithless corporations or bureaucracies. Pick if
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you want to divide a society, you pick one individual
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and you focus all your blame and all your hatred
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on him or her. And so when Trump came to power,
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I mean for the next four years, virtually every news story,
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everything that went wrong, and every criticism was focused at
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Donald Trump. And what they were trying to do and
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succeeded in, was divide America. And so you've got this
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mentality which has become known as woke, which is one
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hundred percent the creation of this cult. That's why the cult.
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Billionaires and corporations fund it to the tune of extraordinary
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amounts of money, things like BLM. Part of that the
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whole woke culture is its call, and it's been programmed
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into the to the young, through the schools and the
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university is more and more extreme as we have gone
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through the years. And so they they had that mentality,
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and on the other side they wanted to play off
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against them those that actually didn't want the woke agenda,
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which is the cult agender. They didn't want to destroy
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the economy for a hoax of human cause climate change.
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They didn't want to have censorship and the cancel culture.
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They didn't want all the things that the wok agenda
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is about. And so suddenly you've you've created a big
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division between two distinct demands of bought states of perception,
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the woke and the pushbackers who were pushing back on
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the woke. They're another thing they don't want is open borders,
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which is a woke agenda. As we've seen since Biden
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came in and well through the Trump years, this division
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was created. And the foundation of it, if you if
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you look at it was hatred of Truck Trump by
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the wokers. You had them hating Trump and everything he did.
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They hold hatred at him. And on the other side,
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you had a lot of other people who near worship Trump.
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the four years, and and so they wanted to eventually
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bring in a fully woke administration that was going to
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push through all the woke agenda, which is the cult
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a gender. And that's what we had when when Biden
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came in and on the on the cusp of that,
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just as he was coming in, they they they wanted
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to put the pushbackers completely on the back foot, to
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demons them UH and to to marginalize them in terms
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of the public the public perception. And so you had
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qanons appear earlier in the Trump administration. And this built
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up and built up and built up until until January
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the sixth. And on January the sixth, you had this
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big crowd in Washington. You had this nonsense from Q
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and on that Trump was going to keep the presidency
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and Biden was going to be arresting all these other people.
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Absolutely nonsense. And the vast majority of the crowd were
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there to protest about and I absolutely agree with them
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about a stolen election. But there was a sting waiting,
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and you had people from uh UH Antifa, people from
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Black Lives matter, people from the woke extreme who were
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dressed as Trump supporters and were pushing the whole, you know,
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head for the Capitol Building. And then there were genuine
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Trump supporters that got caught up in that and excitement
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and fell for it. And what gave it away was
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the complete lack of law enforcement defense of the Capitol Building.
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It was like, you know, there you go, there, you
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go go. It was unbelievable. When you you knew that
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such a crowd was going to be there, then any
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any enforcement, any government would say, okay, well we're going
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to make sure they don't get in the Capitol Building.
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But they didn't make those preparations at all because they
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wanted them in there, and they wanted them in there
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so that they had a coup, a pr coup to
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demonize everybody. All the thousands, thousands of people in them
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all who didn't go in the Capitol Building, they've all
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got the same demonization. And it was a sting, and
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you know, it's it puts it's put pushbackers on the
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back foot. But we just have to, you know, brush
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ourselves down and get back in the game because what
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we have on our side is the truth. This whole
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hoax of so called COVID nineteen is there to be
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dismantled and instead of you know, defending ourselves. You know, no, no,
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I'm not this. I'm not that. We'll call me what
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you like. I'm going to speak my truth. I don't
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care how you try to demonize me. I don't care
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what you throw at me, what abuse, I don't care.
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I'm not listening to it. I'm going to keep speaking
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my truth. And you know, seventy four million people voted
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for Trump at the last election, and most of them,
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well all of them really are going to be in
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some some level pushbackers against this culture gender and you know,
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we need to not apologize for for what we believe
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and not apologize for what we do and just get
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on with it because what they want to do. And
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this has been the reason for this hysteria. I mean this,
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this this moron Chuck Schumer describing January sixth, which wasn't
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an insurrection, it was a riot. As as as our
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pearl harbor. I mean, the man's the man's an idiot,
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but he's obviously an idiot that says what he's told
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to say when when he's told to say it, so
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you know he he prospers in life despite the fact
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that he's an idiot. And what they have tried to
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do with this hysteria and the the tracking down of
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anyone that was in the mall and all that stuff
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is to intimidate the pushback mentality so that we just
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go away. Well, we ain't going away. We mustn't go away.
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We must run out of them even harder because they
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are trying to kid as they have the power, they don't.
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Right, I agree one hundred percent.
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Now, one of the most terrifying aspects at this moment
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for me is, you know, the speculations and theories about
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what this vaccine is, how it affects people, and that
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there may be underlying malevolent intentions such as altering genetics
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or DNA sterilization. A whole list of possible scenarios that
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you hear about, a whole list of theories. I'd like
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to know, what do you think that we're dealing with.
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I have close family members that I've already received the vaccination.
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Thankfully they've had no adverse reactions so far, but we
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have no idea what long term effects will be.
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And it was obviously rushed out and I'd like to
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know what.
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I'm pretty sure there are multiple purposes for this thing.
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But what do you think.
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Well, let's let's look at it from a cult point view.
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It wasn't rushed out. It appeared to be rushed out. Absolutely,
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it did from a public career. But I said last
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I said last April that you know, when they were saying, oh,
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you know, maybe they'll find a vaccine, I said, the
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vaccine's already sitting there, the contents of the vaccines already
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sitting there. This this virus hoax is to justify the vaccine.
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It's not the virus that's the bioweapon. The virus doesn't
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bloody exist. It's the vaccine that's the bio weapon justified
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by the the the covid hoax. And so again, let's
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look at it. It's passionate. The makers don't claim it
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stops transmission of what they claim is a virus. They
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don't claim that it stops you getting it what they
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claim is a virus. They just say it may you know,
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lessen some of the more extreme symptoms. They're already saying
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that more and more. Actually, it's locked down, not the
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vaccine that's pushed the cases down, and the infection alleged
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infection to alleged death ratio, it's coming down all the time.
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There was a figure around zero point two three percent.
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put it, I think was one point five nor point
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you're dealing with, well, something that doesn't exists. But even
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if you take their figures and their narrative, it's of
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no danger whatsoever to the vast majority of people, even
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by their narrative. And yet they are pressuring people in
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every way, shape and form, not at least by these passports.
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You won't be able to do anything if you don't
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have it, to have this alleged vaccine. It's not a vaccine.
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It doesn't fulfill the definition of vaccines. So why would
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they do that? I mean people need to ask that.
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Look at the figures, even their figures, manipulated and nonsensical
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as they are, and ask yourself, why on that basis
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do they want every man, woman, a child. They keep
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saying this every man, woman, a child on the planet vaccinated.
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Because it's not about COVID nineteen. Of course, it's not.
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It's about changing the nature of the humored body. I've
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been writing about this for decades now. They have a
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plan unfolding to turn I'll call it human one point
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oh the human form we have now into human two
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point oh, which is planned to be a much more
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synthetic entity than the human body we have now. And
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so at the same time they are seeking to phase
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out human one point oh and then phase in the
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synthetic biological two point zero. And so if you look
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at the various elements of this, and again I've been
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tracking this for decades now, the sperm counts globally, not
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least in the West, are absolutely plummeting catastrophically. There was
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a there was a book that came out just a
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few months ago now that that looked at all this
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in detail and said, the less things change, you know,
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human sperm counts are going to put to an end,
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put an end to the human race, because they're simply
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not going to be the ability to procreate now. Old
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As Huxley in Brave New World in nineteen thirty two
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described world state hatcheries where world state hatcheries where children
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were not produced through procreation but through technological means and
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the kind of artificial wombs that he kind of described,
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they're introducing them. This technology is now being played out
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and the idea is that human two point zero won't
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be produced by procreation but by technological means. And so
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if you're going to do that, then one point oh
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has to go. And that's what they're doing with the
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sperm counts, and it's what they're doing with I mean,
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when I was growing up as a kid in the
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nineteen fifties, even the early sixties and on, you never
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heard fertility clinics. And there must have been one or
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two existed, but I mean, you never heard it. Now
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it's an industry all over the world. It's an industry
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because people are finding it more and more difficult to
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to to produce children. And Michael Yeden, this form of
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visor executive and Chief Scientific Advisor, wrote to the European
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Medicines Agency with another doctor, a German doctor called Wolfgang Wodarg,
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demanding that they stopped the role out of these alleged
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vaccines because of the number of reasons, but one of
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them was the potential impact on fertility, not least through
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stopping the development of the place center. Uh and and
519
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I just finished Bok, which is in production at the moment.
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It's coming out as soon as we can get it out.
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And I've looked at this and all these different elements.
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If you if you look at them and connect the dots,
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they're all targeting the future of of human one point
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h And what are these what are these these vaccines,
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these m n R m R n A vaccines for
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a start, or A LLEDGE vaccines. They are synthetic genetic material.
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And one of the biggest advancing, expanding aspects of mainstream
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science today is is synthetic biology. And you're you're you're
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you're seeing like you know, all this movement towards synthetic biology,
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synthetic organ synthetic blood, synthetic skin, all of it. And
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this is the movement towards human two point zero. And
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so these genetically manipulating vaccines are part of that. Now,
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the material they're putting into people is self replicating, so
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once it's in there, it starts to replicate. And the
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more you put in there, the more this is going
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to advance. And this is the scam to get people
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to accept that and to entrap them. First of all,
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that your ideal. You want mandatory vaccination, that's what you want,
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but you're not sure at the moment you get away
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with it, So you do you do it through the
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back door. You say, well, we're going to introduce these passports,
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and if you don't have these genetically manipulating vaccines, then
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you can't have any kind of life, go anywhere, I
544
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can't do anything. So you better have it. And now again,
545
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just look at the figures, the official figures for this
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so called virus and its effect. That should be a
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00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.800
red flag and flashing red lights in the head of
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everyone in the world. And so what they're saying is
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if you want to go about your normal life, you've
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got to have a vaccine passport. This is what's happened.
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It's been planned for years and years. They're all coming
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out together. But it's like I said at the start
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of our chat, it's all been planned and it's all
554
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been sitting there. That's why all these different elements of
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the vaccine passport are coming out in different countries at
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the same time. And they all seem to call them green,
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don't they, which connects people into this green climate change
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hoax agenda, which is fundamentally involved with the COVID agenda,
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which is why people like Gates and Klaus Schwab at
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the World Economic Forum are pushing for changes in the
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world due to climate change as much as they are
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changes in the world due to so called COVID. It's
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all part of the same plan. So what they're saying
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to people now will be very shortly. In places like
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Israel they already are is you're not going to have
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a normal life unless you have the vaccines that we've
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said you must have. So okay. So a lot of people,
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what they're going to do, and I've done, is to say, Okay, look,
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I've got to live a life, so I'll have this
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one or I'll have the first two, which is where
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they're up to now. But they are going to say that.
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They're already indicating it that you have to have the
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COVID vaccine every year. In Britain, they're already talking about
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giving out booster injections a third one in September. So
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what about the passport. Well, I've got me passport because
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I've had me first too. Oh yes, but if you're
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going to keep your passport, you've got to have the
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booster and you've got to have the one every year.
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Oh yeah, and you know these variants. We've got Indian variant, now,
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you know, and we've got a we've got a South
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African variant, We've got an UK variant, We've got a
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Brazilian variant. We've got all these variants. So you know,
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I mean, as Michael Eton said in an interview recently,
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these big farmer giants of evil are already developing variant vaccines.
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So what's going to happen is if you're going to
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keep the passport and therefore be able to do anything,
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you've got to keep having these more and more compounding
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numbers of fake vaccinations. And what's that doing. It's infusing
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synthetic genetic material into the body. And a lot of
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people are not going to be able to to deal
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with that, and they're gonna it's going to kill them.
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And then are the others will be able to to
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to deal with it, and and and a new human
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will emerge. But that's what we're looking at. And this
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whole thing about the no procreating human What don't you
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need if you don't procreate the human race, you don't
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need men and women and so this transgender gender that
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came out of nowhere is a stepping stone. I mean,
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you know these transgender activists, they think it's all about them.
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I mean, do wake up. You're being played like a
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stringed instrument. It's not about transgender rights. This is about uh,
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a confusing gender on the roads of fusing gender because
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the human two point who is planned to be a
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no gender human. So don't think that this is about transgender.
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This is about no gender. And what they're doing is
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why they're targeting the kids and the schools and the universities,
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is they are confusing gender. First of all, you've got
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man woman, the biological human man woman, and and then
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you start to confuse it. And now I mean people
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like the BBC they run stories about the fact there's
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one hundred there's one hundred genders. No, there's not. The
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people might feel that they're this or that and the other,
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but but biologically there's you've got two genders. But they
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don't want that and that you know what happening now
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is if you are a professor in this arena in
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a university and you say, actually, you know, biologically there's
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two genders. No out, You're gone. The workers have adgia
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because they don't want you to hold that because that
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is two plus two equals four. We're being taken into
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a world in which two and two equals five. And
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to do that you have to go into a no
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fact society where facts don't matter. We're there where you
623
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just say this is how it is, and that's how
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it is. You're not to support it with any facts.
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And so no, no, there's one hundred genders. Well there's not.
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But if you say there's not, then you get all
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this abuse, not that I could care less. So the
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kids are being systematically manipulated to let go of gender
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first of all, confuse them and then fuse human two
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point zero and no gender human. And that's why the
631
00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:02.280
procreation problems are being systematically manipulated. And you know what
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I said years ago, and this is the reason that
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they're targeting men. You know, you know, you know who
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they're targeting by who you can say what you like
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about and who you can't. So they're targeting men, and
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you can say what you like about men any other
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form of sexuality. No, although they're starting to turn on
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women as well as I said they would, because you've
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got you've got the two genders. They they don't want
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either of them anymore. So they start by targeting men,
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that war on men, toxic masculinity, and now and now
642
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they're just starting to move towards the women, which is
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which is what I said they would as transgender starts
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to you know, with this Biden bill, you know, which
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is basically destroyed women's sport for a star and how
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women have no right to privacy because you know, I
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could say in America, I I self identify as a
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woman called lolo right right, so that get that gives
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me the right to to invader women's privacy, go into
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their into their bathroom, engage in their sport. And and
651
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because men have obviously a greater strength and muscle mass,
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they're going to dominate the sport. I mean, women are
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just being cast aside. You you would say that when
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you would why are they doing this to women? Why
655
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are they destroying their women's sport? Because they want They're
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targeting both genders. It's just that the men came first.
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And what they do is they they play the people
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they're targeting off against each other. So you have the
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me Too movement where where you know women women demonize men,
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and it's like, hold on a minute, they're coming for
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00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.000
you next and it's already started. So this is what's
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going on. And so as you as you connect the dots,
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the the synthetic infusion into the body of this fake vaccine,
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the transgender agenda, all of this stuff. The I mean,
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uh that there's an horrific ah phone footage on on
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David like dot com I saw today where there's this
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these drag queens and they've got these kids and and
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and and on a stage and it's it's it's horrific
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and people should go and see it. It's it's circulating
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around the internet now. And why why in countries all
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over the world at the same time. Basically do people
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have the same idea in authority? Ah No, we're going
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to have drag queens in the schools or in the
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local libraries, and we're going to have them reading stories
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to little todd toddlers and stuff. What is a drag queen.
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It's a man dressed as a woman. What's that? And
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I have no problem with them, be my guest, enjoy yourself,
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just don't push anyone else. But what is that? It's
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gender confusion? And that's the whole thing that's going on
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now with the kids and the young is confusing their
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perception of gender. So you take it the anchors away,
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and that's part of this whole thing for the no
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gender human that we're moving into.
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Yeah. Yeah, you can definitely see how those agendas tie together.
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The transhuman agenda along with the vaccine and you know,
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women's sports, everything that you mentioned, it all ties together
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in this agenda. Now, we got a few minutes left
688
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and I kind of want to switch gears a little
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bit into something else that's been happening the past few
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years that I find very interesting and also most likely
691
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very deceptive.
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We've had the tic Tac, the.
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Amua muha Israelly defense official talking about a galactic federation.
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Recently Pyramid UFOs, and the most main stream UFO coverage
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that I've ever.
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Seen before in the past few years.
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Now it's coming from our government, is coming from the media,
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so of course there's an agenda behind it. I'd like
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to get your thoughts on what.
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That could be.
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Well. I started writing about this in the nineteen nineties
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and revelations about Project Bluebet, which was a project to
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eventually have a fake alien invasion. And you see where
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they want to go in terms of political structure is
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to a global level. So there's a world government dictating
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at a world army and a world central bank, and
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it's all centrally dictated. Every community in the world is
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dictated to from this central point. That's what the smart
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grid's all about. The plans they have to connect the
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human brain to AI. It's about central control and creating
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a high human mind which can be centrally controlled. But
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that's another subject. And so if you want to centralize power,
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and you want to centralize power very quickly, then a
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mutual threat from beyond is a great way of doing it.
715
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.800
We must unite, we must pull everything, we must have
716
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.800
basically a global war cabinet to meet the threat. This
717
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.639
this threat from beyond. And I remember a quote from
718
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:40.039
Ronald Reagan when he was president, who said that, you know,
719
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.440
in a speech at the United Nations, that if there
720
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.239
was basically a threat from a non non human race,
721
00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.159
a non human force, it would unite us and we
722
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.760
put down all the things that divide us.
723
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:59.440
And so there was a.
724
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.760
A guy who was a Nazi was in the He
725
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.199
was an engineer and a scientist in the Narchier the
726
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.199
gym called Verner von Braun, and he developed the V
727
00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:17.119
two rockets that were fired by the Nazis on London
728
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.320
did tremendous amount of damage. And after the war, the CIA,
729
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:29.440
in league with other networks, had something called an Operation
730
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.960
paper Clip, Project paper Clip, in which they got the
731
00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:41.360
major Nazi genesicists and engineers out of Germany and they
732
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.480
brought them to the United States. A lot of them
733
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.239
went to South America as well, but the United States too,
734
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:53.039
and one of them was Verner von Braun. And he then,
735
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:58.519
because these these these Nazi engineers basically created NASSA and
736
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.400
he worked at now savon Braun and he was the
737
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:09.880
lead engineer developing the satin five rockets that power the
738
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.000
Moon program. And what I'm saying all this is because
739
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.159
he had an assistant, an American assistant, and when he
740
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:23.320
found he was he was he was dying, he told
741
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:30.840
her to watch for a series of things that would
742
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.480
all be hoaxes and it would be a sequence. And
743
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:40.800
he talked about terrorism, like terrorist groups like al Kader
744
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:43.800
and stuff as we know them now. There would be
745
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:52.159
rogue countries that they would bring to the four that
746
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:56.880
would frighten the hell out of the world and allow
747
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.559
things to happen that otherwise wouldn't happen. He taught about
748
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:08.239
asteroids and stuff like that based debris that would be
749
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.960
said to be a threat to the world. And look
750
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:15.000
at all the things you could you could manipulate on
751
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.719
the back of that. And and the final one, he
752
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:21.920
said in this long there were there were others as well,
753
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.800
was a fake alien invasion.
754
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:24.920
Uh.
755
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:30.159
And and this is I think something we need to
756
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:38.559
keep in mind with current events, because I've been kind
757
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.880
of following this now, and I've been to America so
758
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:43.320
many times. You know, I used to go to America
759
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.480
in the nineties and across the millennium. I used to
760
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.280
go for about three months at a time, as long
761
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.920
as as long as the visa would allow me. So
762
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.639
I met loads of people and loads of people in
763
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:57.920
the UFO arena and whistleblowers and what have you. And
764
00:53:58.320 --> 00:54:06.440
in that entire period, there was a tremendous suppression of
765
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:14.679
information about so called UFOs and people that claim that
766
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:22.039
they had had interactions with with aliens and stuff. And
767
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:27.679
it was ridicured and it was dismissed. Uh. And it
768
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:32.199
was not taken seriously by the authorities that then suddenly,
769
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.400
as you mentioned, and I've been kind of waiting for this,
770
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:41.679
really after you know what I found long ago, Suddenly
771
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:49.679
it's all changed, hasn't it. Suddenly the Pentagon is taking
772
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:56.880
it seriously, is releasing information and confirming that there are
773
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:03.920
things going on. They can't explain that they're allowing footage
774
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:13.320
to be released of pilots, military pilots who've caught on
775
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:18.519
their radar craft doing things that in the public arena
776
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:24.840
we know where near doing changing speed or changing direction
777
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.880
at tremendous speed, actually the speed itself. But another thing
778
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.400
that I've picked up over the years traveling around America
779
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.960
and talking to people about all the Area fifty one
780
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:42.159
and all these other different aspects of it, is that
781
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:46.960
it's very clear that what we call flying saucer technology,
782
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.639
it's in the hands of the American military, probably other
783
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:58.320
military too, like the Chinese, but it's just anti gravity technology.
784
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:05.920
And you want to give the impression that some alien
785
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:10.880
invasion is going on, and you've got technology which is
786
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.320
actually flown by humans, But the public have no idea.
787
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.360
If they see something like that, immediately they think alien,
788
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.320
because well, we an't got anything like that, well, not
789
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:24.119
in the public arena, we have no. And I'm not
790
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.679
dismissing that there are other, you know, forms of life,
791
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.559
of course, it's ridiculous that I mean, the idea that
792
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.159
we're with the only form of life is I mean,
793
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:36.960
it's beyond bloody laughable. But we've got to be very
794
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:42.119
careful about this, because again, if you can keep from
795
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.760
people the technology that you have, then you're in a
796
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.800
wonderful position to scam the belief that there's an alien
797
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.400
invasion when you're using technology that the public don't know about.
798
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.280
I think we've got to watch this very very carefully
799
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:04.480
because it's you know, a very blatant and obvious change
800
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:08.920
of attitude by the Pentagon and the the authorities in
801
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.760
general to how they were even not that long ago.
802
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.119
Yeah, I would agree that I think that it's something
803
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:22.000
to pay attention to very skeptically, and with the you know,
804
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.760
some reservations about it because of the sources coming from.
805
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:27.440
But David, I want to thank you for coming on
806
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:33.199
in closing. What do you think is any possible solutions
807
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.880
that we could have to this? What do we, as
808
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:40.119
you know, as people and as our society need to
809
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:42.760
do to come together to kind of counteract this.
810
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.239
Well, we I mean the answer is just sitting there.
811
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:52.400
I mean it's sitting there like this over here, over here,
812
00:57:54.400 --> 00:58:00.840
And that's non cooperation. You know, reality, a handful of
813
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.360
people can't control billions of people unless the billions cooperate
814
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:11.559
with their own enslavement. What if last last, last, last spring,
815
00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:16.719
or even through the summer. As it became realized that
816
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.559
this wasn't a deadly virus, that people said, look, we
817
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:23.760
ain't doing it. No, we're not wearing a mask. Okay,
818
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:27.239
so millions and millions and millions. So take take Trump
819
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:31.719
supporters or Trump voters, seventy four million people. What if
820
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.400
you know, a large number of them, hopefully all of them,
821
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:38.679
just said I'm not wearing a mask anymore. I'm not
822
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:42.760
doing it beyond enforceable that, you know, you take the
823
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:47.599
people that are ultimately dictating this from the shadows, and
824
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.440
you then add to them all the law enforcement and
825
00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.800
all the official dumbing government that's playing out what they're
826
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:58.559
deciding and enforcing it, and you still got a tiny, tiny,
827
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:03.519
tiny number of people compared with the global population. They're
828
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:08.119
they're impotent if the population say no, not doing it
829
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.199
in anything like a big numbers. So it's sitting there
830
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:18.280
and it's no good. It's no good. People saying, well,
831
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.559
I won't do anything yet, but if it gets any worse,
832
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:23.800
I will. And then when it gets worse, which it
833
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:25.760
has been doing all the way through the last year
834
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:27.800
and more, were you going to do then? Oh well,
835
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.239
I'm not going to do anything now, but if it
836
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:33.239
gets any work And so it goes on and on
837
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.119
and on and on, and there comes a point where look,
838
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.599
come on, are we are we? Are we going to
839
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.159
stand up for freedom or not? And the way you
840
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:46.760
stand up for freedom is refused to be anything but free. Okay,
841
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.360
Do I have the freedom to wear a mask? Well no,
842
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:55.559
it's not wats me. Do I have freedom to ignore
843
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.119
your ludicrous rules that are only there to control me?
844
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.679
Well no, of course you've got to no, no, watch me?
845
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:06.039
And when when people and enough numbers do that, you know,
846
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:10.400
Protests are great in the sense that they are a
847
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.480
visual representation of public feeling, and they give people who
848
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.440
are maybe isolated in their family, who you know, who
849
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:20.440
don't think like they do. They see it's a way
850
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.519
of seeing that there's so many other people think the
851
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.039
way you do. So that's great on that level, but
852
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.119
the answer is not protest. That's just you know, an
853
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:33.000
expression of it. It's not cooperating. It's saying no, I'm
854
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:36.199
not doing it. That's all. That's all it is, you know.
855
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.719
I mean, we had a march in London a few
856
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:47.400
weeks ago against lockdown and so many people turned up.
857
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.079
There's another one on the twenty fourth of April. So
858
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.320
many people turned up. Nothing the police could do. I mean,
859
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.280
if a few people have turned up, the police were
860
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:01.000
in gotcha. But so many people turned up the police
861
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:05.480
just basically stood on and watched because there's just too
862
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.960
many people. They couldn't cope with it. And when the
863
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.960
police chief was interviewed, it was clear from his reaction
864
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.639
that he was taken aback by how many people there were.
865
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:21.119
So it's all sitting there waiting to be done, okay.
866
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:26.400
And what they're doing is desperately trying to divide and
867
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.440
rulers by getting the population to police itself, or we
868
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.159
allow officers and our next door neighbors been in the
869
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:37.320
garden twice today, or tend a car around, you know.
870
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.039
I mean, that's what they're trying to do. The starzy
871
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.599
technique of turning the population against itself. But there's still
872
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.320
vast numbers of people despite all that, who got it
873
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.920
and seen it, and we've got to move from seeing it,
874
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.880
which more and more people are to ceasing to cooperate
875
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:59.360
with it, refusing to conform and refusing to obey. And
876
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.719
when enough people do that, this is over. It's unenforceable.
877
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:07.719
Oh things unenforceable. And the longer we leave it, the
878
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:13.920
more we're allowing these structures of control, technological control, things
879
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:21.360
like the passports and all that, to to lock in
880
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.960
this gathering control system like you see in China. And
881
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:28.960
so what are we waiting for? Because if you think
882
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.239
it's going to get any better without you season to cooperate, well,
883
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.679
it's not. They're banking on that that you think like that,
884
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.400
you say, oh, just wait a bit longer. Yeah, okay,
885
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.719
let's give them more time to make it worse and
886
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.800
to lock in these structures of control, which makes push
887
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:49.719
back more difficult. How long we're going to wait? I
888
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:54.320
mean how long we waited already. Because if people think
889
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:56.159
it's going to get better, or they'll keep their head
890
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:57.880
down and we get better, it's not. It's not meant
891
01:02:57.880 --> 01:02:59.599
to it's meant to get worse, it's meant to get
892
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:01.360
more and more extreme.
893
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:02.360
And so.
894
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.639
When when when's our line going to be crossed? My
895
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:12.960
mind was crossed at the start of the first lockdown. Uh,
896
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.519
and I've refused to cooperate with any of them. I
897
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.559
won't do it. I'll go I'll give me consequences. You know,
898
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:23.880
I'm still not doing it. Intimidate me, Well, you won't,
899
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:28.079
because you can't. I'm not doing it because if if
900
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:32.800
you compromise or appease tyranny, it's it's it's it's a
901
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.199
mug's game, because tyranny will always want more appeasement and
902
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:40.400
more appeasement and more obey obeyance and so on until
903
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.800
it's got you completely stitched up and all your freedom's gone.
904
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.519
So the only way to meet this is to say
905
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:51.239
I'm not compromising in any way, shape or form with tyranny.
906
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.079
When we've got the numbers, ah, it's over. So you
907
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:00.559
know I said, it's nothing we can do. No, there's nothing,
908
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.440
nothing you want to do that there's nothing that you
909
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.880
would like to do because you'd rather not have to
910
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:11.639
do it. But we do. We we have to look
911
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.320
this in the face. We have to look it in
912
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.639
the eye and say, no, I'm not cooperating with it,
913
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:23.280
because they have no power. This is the point. Authority
914
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:29.719
has no power except the power we give to it. Fascists.
915
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.119
Fascism is not brought in by fascists, never has been.
916
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:37.199
There's not enough of them. It's brought in by public acquiescence. Populations,
917
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.079
acquiescence to fascism the only way it can be brought in.
918
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:42.880
You know, you look at Nazi Germany. Look how many
919
01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.440
people were in Germany at that time compared with a
920
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:52.000
number of full blown Nazis. They were muh. But they
921
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:55.519
acquiesced to it, and therefore they got it, and and
922
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.679
that's that should be a lesson to us all. But
923
01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:04.320
for some they're still not getting it. You cannot appease fascism.
924
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:07.159
You cannot appease tyranny. You can only look it in
925
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:09.679
the eye and say I'm not cooperating with you. And
926
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.360
what happens happens. But I'm not call I'd rather die
927
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.320
than wear a mask. I would because in the end,
928
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:23.079
you know, Martin Luther King talked about this that if
929
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.719
you're faced with a great cause and you're being challenged
930
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:28.559
to stand up for some great cause. And my god,
931
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.679
it's a great cause now when you think of the
932
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.079
world our kids and grandkids are going to live in
933
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.760
if we don't end this nonsense. When you when you
934
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:43.719
face with it, and but you won't do it, you
935
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:46.360
let you let fear or you know, what are the
936
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.719
consequences for me get in the way? Something inside your dies?
937
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.159
A king talked about this, Something inside you dies. Uh.
938
01:05:53.400 --> 01:06:02.840
And you know, I've I know of people who can
939
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:11.119
see what's happening, but they're in families that can't. And
940
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.159
they've although they know about all this, and they've read
941
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:17.159
about all this, and they've read about the vaccines and
942
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:20.239
what's in them and all that stuff, they've had the vaccine.
943
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.480
They've had the vaccine fake vaccine to appease their family,
944
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.320
who clearly are clueless because they don't know anything about
945
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:32.239
what's going on, just believe what the government tells them.
946
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:37.440
And those people are not the same people. Something inside
947
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:42.639
them has died on a spiritual level because of what
948
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:47.280
they've done, because they know that they shouldn't have done it,
949
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:52.840
and they know that they've conceded that their self respect
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01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:58.719
to appease others. And you can't do that if you
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01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.880
want to bring it into tyranny, we've got to look
952
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:06.480
it in the eye. But almost not even that. We
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01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:08.559
just don't cooperate with it. No, I'm not doing it,
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01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.800
not doing it. Do this, nope, do that, Nope, nope.
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01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.039
There be enough people have that attitude. It's over and
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01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:21.360
it is that simple. It is that simple because if
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01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:24.559
you can't control the many without the acquiescence of the many.
958
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.079
Yes, very well said. I agree, one hundred percent. We
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01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.880
just have to not comply with any of this. David.
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01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:34.960
Thank you so much again for coming on today for
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01:07:35.039 --> 01:07:38.440
thank you for taking the time. Fantastic information, and I'd
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01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:40.400
definitely love to speak with you again in the future.
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01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.280
Okay, nice to talk to you again. See it. Have
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01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:44.960
a good day.
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01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.280
And until next Today, my guest is Michael Whan. He
966
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:54.079
is an artist, astrologer, and independent researcher. He is known
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01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:57.199
for the Susquehanna Mystery and the Rights of the fortieth Parallel.
968
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:01.960
He navigates by pointing his compass towards uniqueness, patterns, memicry, resonance,
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01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:05.400
and universal truths. Michael, welcome back. How you doing today.
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01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.119
I am doing great, Chris, thank you for having me
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01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:11.679
it's been a while, so I'm excited to be back.
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01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:17.279
Yeah, it's always it's always great having you on. Last
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01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.720
time you were on, I think it was like, oh man,
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01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:23.560
close to almost a year ago. So much has happened,
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01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.640
you know. We always go deep, we always go down
976
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:30.319
some fascinating rabbit holes. I don't expect to day to
977
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.800
be any different, especially given the world we're currently in.
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01:08:34.680 --> 01:08:36.920
Like I said, so much has happened. First of all,
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01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:40.399
how have you been in your world? Anything different or
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01:08:40.479 --> 01:08:40.840
new for you?
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01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:46.920
Well, you can't have the outer world change as much
982
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.279
as the outer world has changed without your inner world
983
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:53.439
being connected to it and changing as well, regardless if
984
01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:56.199
you're not, if you're saying that's not my world, but
985
01:08:56.359 --> 01:08:59.520
still you're connected to it, or at least I am.
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01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:03.600
And so yes, of course I've changed a lot. This
987
01:09:03.800 --> 01:09:10.760
past year has uh been a real interesting time for me.
988
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.640
Is just like as an individual human being, I mean,
989
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.880
as everything is changing and uh and in the outer world,
990
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:22.159
like there's so much like so much is is is uh,
991
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:24.920
despite the fact of what they're telling you, there's there's
992
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:28.439
so much potentiality because nothing's ever going to be the same,
993
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.920
and so like there's almost an overwhelming amount of potentiality
994
01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.279
because the world is being rewritten right now and it
995
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.039
does not necessarily have to follow the script which is
996
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:41.199
being laid before us. So that being said, like yeah,
997
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.760
like this past really the past six months for me
998
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.560
has been like really questioning, like what is it that
999
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:51.760
I want to do? What is it that interests me?
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01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:54.319
What is it that I think is going to serve me,
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01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.880
serve my community. All of those sort of questions, I mean,
1002
01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:59.880
and those are big questions for me. I typically have
1003
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:05.239
been a float by life kind of purpose person, and
1004
01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:07.880
so this has been new, and it's been you know,
1005
01:10:08.359 --> 01:10:11.159
everything which is new, like in some in some ways
1006
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.800
like exciting and fun, but then in other ways, like
1007
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.680
you know, I've been a pain.
1008
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:17.039
In the ass.
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01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:19.600
I miss the old ways. So yeah, how's that for
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01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:20.760
an answer for your question?
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01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:23.840
That's that's perfect answer. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
1012
01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:28.119
It's it's been so strange the past year and a half.
1013
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.560
But tonight we're gonna be broadcasting live on rock fins,
1014
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:35.720
so we can get as controversial and say whatever, no
1015
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.119
no words they don't let you say on other platforms.
1016
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:42.079
We can say today and you know, this whole situation
1017
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:46.840
with COVID has devolved into this like insane sci fi
1018
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:50.840
soap opera type situation in the media. You have actors
1019
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:54.960
like Faucy Gates now ran Paul Trump, and then we
1020
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:58.079
get hit with this UFO madness on top of everything else.
1021
01:10:59.000 --> 01:10:59.800
It's so crazy.
1022
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:01.920
If we were in a coma for the past like
1023
01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.479
two years and you woke up now, you'd be in
1024
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.399
a crazy different world than you're used to.
1025
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:10.439
So, let's what do you think is has been going on?
1026
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:14.000
The last time we spoke, we kind of uh touched
1027
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:17.800
on the ritualistic aspects that could possibly be going on
1028
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:22.640
behind here. Now we've got the major push for vaccines.
1029
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.920
You know, what do you think is going on behind
1030
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.760
the scenes here? Uh since the last time we talked?
1031
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.760
So, okay, that's a that's a fantastic way to start
1032
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:36.199
the show. So the first thing, and maybe this is
1033
01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:38.960
gonna this will this will like link back to the last.
1034
01:11:39.479 --> 01:11:43.960
The last thing we're just talking about is is it's
1035
01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:49.039
become so ridiculously obvious that this is a show and
1036
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.199
part of like what I've seen in my own life,
1037
01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:55.760
like I've I've always had like a what would call
1038
01:11:55.880 --> 01:12:00.319
synchronistic sort of lens and rich experiences in my life,
1039
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.039
and that has become that has become even more so
1040
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:06.119
in the past six months, let's say, but in a
1041
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.600
kind of a different way. But it also corresponds with
1042
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:15.960
a withdraw from from the hypnosis of the story, because
1043
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.439
the story is friggin like whether you are whether you
1044
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.199
are like engrossed in it because you believe it to
1045
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.920
be real, or whether you're engrossed in it because you're like,
1046
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.159
I can't believe this shit which they're showing us, like
1047
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.680
you know, the drive by on like a bad accident site,
1048
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:34.159
like it don't matter because it sucks you in. And
1049
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:37.920
that to me is like almost the where I'm where,
1050
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:41.600
where I'm understanding it right now is like so much
1051
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:45.319
of the ritual is to like create that like what
1052
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.119
they would call in economics the priming of the pump
1053
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.159
to bring in everyone to pay attention, Like, oh, yeah,
1054
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:51.760
we're gonna do this ritual, but we're also gonna let
1055
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:53.760
you know we're doing this ritual so you could start
1056
01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:58.119
watching this ritual, which feeds it. So like, uh, in
1057
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:00.800
a way, I've been stepping a lot back from like
1058
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.359
trying to feed that. But that being said, that being said,
1059
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:07.319
like I still can't help but peak because like I
1060
01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.680
was born into the system and they got me hooked
1061
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:12.560
as much as anyone else, and and and it is fascinating.
1062
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:14.800
So so with that being said, this is going to
1063
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:16.680
be kind of frush for me because I am not
1064
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:22.119
as as deep into following the narrative as I once was,
1065
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:24.640
But I do peak every once in a while. And
1066
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:29.119
you are absolutely right as you were in terms of
1067
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:36.239
tying in COVID to this this UFO phenomenon that has
1068
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:40.439
been a topic which I've withdrawn from a couple of
1069
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:45.920
years ago, mainly because I I didn't know which way
1070
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:48.319
was up and I did not want to participate in it.
1071
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:51.199
It's not it's not so much that that like I'm
1072
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:53.279
in like you know, saying this is what I think
1073
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:54.800
it is, or this is what I think it is.
1074
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:56.520
It's more so it's like, well, I don't know, because
1075
01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:59.800
I've certainly had my own experiences with with with strange
1076
01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:02.279
things in the sky, and maybe we could get into that.
1077
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:05.720
But that being said, like this story, to me, the
1078
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:10.119
timing of this and the well orchestratedness of how this
1079
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:15.600
is being rolled out is and that is worthy of
1080
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:18.920
paying attention to, right now if we look at last
1081
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:23.239
summer as kind of a you know, like a comparison,
1082
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:27.359
maybe like there was in the summer, there was the releasing.
1083
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.680
There was a releasing of the pressure of that first
1084
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:35.399
round of lockdown for for uh, pretty much the world.
1085
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.960
I'll focus in North America because that's what I know
1086
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:41.319
more personally. And so then we got like all the riots,
1087
01:14:41.399 --> 01:14:43.840
So there was like the there was the the green
1088
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:48.199
light was given for that energy to be to be released.
1089
01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:51.319
And I'm thinking last year was a little bit different
1090
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.479
because it was that election year and all this stuff
1091
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:56.119
was tied into that, and then you had like the resurrection. No,
1092
01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:58.079
it wasn't called the what's the word they used? I
1093
01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.840
always think resurrection, But it's like what of those those
1094
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.479
words is which which they say? And that was this
1095
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:05.880
other sort of like you know, we can see like
1096
01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.079
how the the energy is being stoked, and what parts
1097
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:12.000
of the population are being stoked, and what part of
1098
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:15.640
consciousness is being stoked. And so now we're like, all right,
1099
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:18.880
they're gonna hit you up with with the aliens, and
1100
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.560
you've got like a whole variety of people who like,
1101
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:24.039
you know, how they're going to respond to it. So
1102
01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:25.960
you've got like a group of people who are like,
1103
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:29.840
they don't look at aliens, Aliens all ridiculous stuff. You've
1104
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:32.319
got the mainstream folks which are like, oh, yeah, I've
1105
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:34.239
seen the History Channel and they've been telling me about
1106
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:36.720
aliens and I've been seeing the slow drip. Then you've
1107
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:38.720
got like, you know, maybe more of like what you'd
1108
01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:41.760
call like the New Aage sort of understanding of aliens.
1109
01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:43.560
And then you got like, you know, the people who
1110
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.319
don't really have an opinion, or the people just say
1111
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.079
like no, this is all just like Nazi end or
1112
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:53.479
or like military stuff which we're seeing in the sky. Nonetheless,
1113
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.760
they're all gonna get hit with it, and there's gonna
1114
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.000
be this this kind of like, you know, how is
1115
01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:01.119
that going to respond? How are the different groups going
1116
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:04.199
to respond to that? So I think that's that's that
1117
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.359
that's a fascinating, like, you know, I'm I'm intrigued to
1118
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:09.840
see where that's going to go. But then the timing
1119
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:11.960
of that with the COVID, because there's a lot of
1120
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:15.600
there are two things that you're jumping out with the COVID.
1121
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:18.640
One is there's a huge release of the gas. So
1122
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:22.119
Pennsylvania was a state where they had like the mass mandate, Well,
1123
01:16:22.199 --> 01:16:24.960
isn't like that big of a deal, Like I would
1124
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.199
you know, some places i'd wear it for but for
1125
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:29.439
the most part, I you know, it wasn't a big deal.
1126
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:31.079
If you weren't, you might get some looks or what
1127
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:33.520
have you. But all of that is like kind of changing.
1128
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.439
So they're taking that off, and they're already like you know,
1129
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:40.960
there's what I'm also noticing is they're they're starting to
1130
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.399
talk about what the next round is gonna be. So
1131
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:45.880
they're set in the stage for like okay, like now
1132
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.600
you got to start thinking about the next thing, and
1133
01:16:47.680 --> 01:16:49.720
that's going to be the really bad one that's coming.
1134
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:51.720
And I'm like, this is just all like, this is
1135
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:54.600
all this is. This is a story. These are all stories.
1136
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.319
These are ridiculous stories. None of it's real. I don't
1137
01:16:58.359 --> 01:17:00.960
buy any of it. I'm I'll say it this way.
1138
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:04.079
I've not seen any evidence to make me to come
1139
01:17:04.119 --> 01:17:07.359
to the conclusion that this is a real thing. And
1140
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:10.960
and so like I'm seeing these stories, so that's helping
1141
01:17:11.039 --> 01:17:14.600
me pull out a little bit from like being being
1142
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.039
focused upon them. And so I'm going to go right
1143
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:22.479
into this beeping the fire alarm. So as as that
1144
01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:25.560
has been happening, as that's been happening, is I've been like, like,
1145
01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:28.159
these are ridiculous stories. I'm not even like paying that
1146
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:30.800
much attention anymore. I mean obviously enough to give you
1147
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:34.720
that recap, but like all of this other like very
1148
01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:38.920
very strange things are happening on a very very high
1149
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:43.000
level h in my regular life, like both with technology
1150
01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:47.800
and with the natural world. And I pay attention to patterns,
1151
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:49.760
so I like have a point of reference in my
1152
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:51.960
own life to know, like, you know, what I'm seeing
1153
01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:56.239
and you know, stuff's just getting weird. Where I'm standing
1154
01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.159
right now is you know, I still I hold the
1155
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:04.000
understanding that that the human experience at its heart as
1156
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.279
a mystery, like not a mystery to be solved, but
1157
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:08.399
to be embraced. So like there's a big part of
1158
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.560
like I'm willing to accept a lot of unknown and
1159
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:15.119
so the unknown, the biggest unknown is like, you know,
1160
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:18.560
where are we having our life experience? Where is this thing?
1161
01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:23.680
And to me on a on a very basic on
1162
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:27.399
a fundamental level, that seems to be changing, like more
1163
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.319
so than everything which we're seeing with with like this
1164
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:33.960
these stories, we're seeing other changes and we're seeing it
1165
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:36.279
in these weird ways. And this is kind of why
1166
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:39.039
I go back to that thing, like everything is possible,
1167
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:43.199
like in the most in the only our our our
1168
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.600
creativity and our imagination, I think right now is the
1169
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.560
only limitation. That's why it's been so important that they
1170
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:52.880
shaped it so that your imagination will fit their storyline.
1171
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.680
But like we're at a point right now where if
1172
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:58.720
we start to strip back, we're stripping back some of
1173
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.319
those stories and like you know, you're moving to a
1174
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.960
new place, You've got all new you don't have any
1175
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.520
of those old stories that you have anymore. Like we
1176
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:10.399
are in that position. And so as we see what's
1177
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:13.479
coming this summer, we're seeing kind of like a let
1178
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:17.279
dat a release. Hopefully in a lot of these mandates,
1179
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:19.840
there's gonna be something put out which is gonna stoke
1180
01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:24.600
everyone's imagination. Like my expectation is like things are going
1181
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:28.079
to just get stranger and stranger, and uh, you know,
1182
01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:29.279
I'm kind of excited for it.
1183
01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:30.760
Yeah, I am too.
1184
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:34.600
And like you said, you know, there's there's things that
1185
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.319
are happening that are naturally strange, and then there's things
1186
01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:40.279
that are happening to where they're kind of pushing this
1187
01:19:40.560 --> 01:19:44.680
and and kind of pushing the collective culture and the
1188
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:49.159
collective consciousness, consciousness to uh, to think in a certain direction.
1189
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.119
So now if it's you know, if I'm thinking, well,
1190
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:55.039
if they're coming out with all this UFO stuff, and
1191
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:58.279
I definitely don't trust anything that's coming out from our
1192
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:02.479
government or media, and this is the sources that all
1193
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.000
this information is coming from. I mean, it's fascinating, but
1194
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:08.840
of course I'm not gonna trust it. But why and
1195
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:11.840
where is it going? And what's gonna happen? Like you said,
1196
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:16.800
something fantastical may happen. Is this gonna be like a staged,
1197
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:19.560
fake alien invasion thing? I mean, I've heard that so
1198
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:23.199
much over the years from different to you know, conspiracy
1199
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:24.279
theorists and people.
1200
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:25.720
Or could it be something else.
1201
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:27.960
Are they gonna roll out some toys that they've just
1202
01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.680
been itching to roll out for their space force? You know,
1203
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:33.119
could be any of those things. It's gonna be a
1204
01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:35.159
very fascinating time to pay attention.
1205
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:37.760
To this stuff, probably both. I mean, we're gonna see
1206
01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:41.479
the I mean, there there is this this stringing along
1207
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:43.960
that's one of the most important things. And this is
1208
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.439
what comes with experience like when you've been when you've
1209
01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:52.760
been following these storylines for like a while, and you
1210
01:20:53.279 --> 01:20:55.560
see like the build up, you see the build up
1211
01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.640
of like you know, oh, something's coming, all the signs
1212
01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.439
are there, this is gonna happen, and then it doesn't happen,
1213
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:04.439
and you see this over and over again, you're like, okay, okay,
1214
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:08.880
you're beginning to recognize that that that's a modus operandi.
1215
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:09.600
Uh.
1216
01:21:09.680 --> 01:21:11.760
And there's always that voice in your back your mind,
1217
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:13.800
it's like, but is this the one? Is this the time?
1218
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:16.760
You know that it's you know, those who knows what's
1219
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.039
going to happen, But like, but that's it, Like they're
1220
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:22.000
the biggest thing which I'm seeing is like this is
1221
01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:26.720
stringing along, but it is I think from if I
1222
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:28.680
did not see all of the things in my own
1223
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:32.359
personal life, which has just been weird, Uh, then I
1224
01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:33.960
would be like, well, this is just like you know,
1225
01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:36.840
smoking mirrors, but I think it's mostly smoking mirrors because
1226
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:39.760
there's something there is something which is changing. You know,
1227
01:21:40.199 --> 01:21:43.600
we are changing whatever that may be. The environment which
1228
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:47.800
we're experienced life in is changing, and uh, that is
1229
01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:50.479
that is where I really want to go, uh, with
1230
01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:54.079
my with my awareness and my attention in the in
1231
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.399
the coming months, and then also being very very as
1232
01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:00.359
grounded as I can. And this has been some which
1233
01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:02.560
has been different in the last six months as well,
1234
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:12.239
has been recognizing like fundamental lenses in which I see reality.
1235
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:17.000
And these are seemingly like like not big deal sort
1236
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:20.680
of things, but I think that you know that they're
1237
01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:23.079
really big And this is part of the way of
1238
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:27.560
becoming free of the consciousness which has been put in
1239
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:29.600
all of us, even though those of us who are like, no,
1240
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:33.479
I know the media's bullshit, and I know the government's bullshit,
1241
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.680
and I know that's bullshit, and I know targets bullshit,
1242
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:38.319
and I know Amazon's bullshit. But still like we are
1243
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:41.199
ingrained in the system we're born into. So like I've
1244
01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:45.760
been doing a lot of stuff like reconstructing calendars, like
1245
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.560
getting away from that looking at the natural world in
1246
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:54.720
a very very different way. And so that's where I'm
1247
01:22:54.800 --> 01:23:01.520
hoping to really connect and be part of when this
1248
01:23:01.800 --> 01:23:07.800
change which we're experiencing begins to or continues on its trajectory.
1249
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:10.439
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see, and I
1250
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:12.680
want to get into some of the changes that you're
1251
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:16.600
noticing collectively around not only with people, but like you said,
1252
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:20.039
in your environment stuff. But one of the things that's
1253
01:23:20.119 --> 01:23:22.159
hard to kind of get a peg on is where
1254
01:23:22.279 --> 01:23:25.000
people are standing right now collectively when it comes to
1255
01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:30.720
their view of Shenanigans, you know, basically, is their view
1256
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:32.880
of is this BS or is this not? Are we
1257
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.800
being played or are we not? They have this new
1258
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:37.800
thing in the media that I heard the other day
1259
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:42.079
called mask culture where people don't want to stop wearing masks.
1260
01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:44.399
It's a new thing because it's cool. You know, I
1261
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.119
don't know how real that are, do you know? Are
1262
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:50.079
there a sect of people that want to keep wearing masks? Sure,
1263
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:50.760
I'm sure there are.
1264
01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:52.800
But is it as big and.
1265
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.239
You know, trendy as the media wants us to think
1266
01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:59.159
it is. You know, I'm wondering collectively how many people
1267
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.479
are still on with the nonsense and how many people
1268
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:05.680
are just kind of evolving and kind of doing their
1269
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:09.319
own free thinking and being sovereign individuals, you know what
1270
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:09.640
I mean.
1271
01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:14.800
Yeah, I think I'm always gauging the population just by
1272
01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.359
looking around at at at you know, what percent of
1273
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:21.439
people I see wearing masks, and particularly those who wear
1274
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:25.640
it while driving, and so you know that's my own
1275
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:29.720
kind of like uh soft analysis, but I tend to
1276
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:33.960
agree with you that that's a like that's the real
1277
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:37.119
definition of a meme. Like if you go back to
1278
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:40.920
seeing where like meme was first introduced into uh like
1279
01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:45.520
the the lexicon, what a meme means a mind virus,
1280
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.479
and so a mind virus is basically an idea which
1281
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:54.720
then spreads. And so that's what when when you you
1282
01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:59.479
see in the media, particularly everything is so segmented and demographic,
1283
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.920
like they know exactly who they're getting to, and you
1284
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:05.760
release this story and you put this idea in people's
1285
01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:08.560
minds like hey, it's it's you know, it's cool, it's
1286
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.319
cool to do this, to wear the mask. And then
1287
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:13.399
at the same time you get like, you know, you
1288
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.039
see all of the studies that say that you should
1289
01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:19.399
still be scared, Like, you know, I think they're creating it.
1290
01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:23.439
Like undoubtedly maybe some people, I think, like wearing a mask.
1291
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:27.720
I think that's probably a really small percentage of people.
1292
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.960
But that whole thing to make a trendy Yet that's
1293
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:36.359
made up, that's not real, that's that's that's Edward Burnet's
1294
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:44.640
propaganda one oh one. But it works, you know, you'll
1295
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.520
go and see some people, but then you go, like
1296
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:49.880
I live in Pennsylvania, and this has been the case
1297
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:54.399
from the whole time. Was there are three counties which
1298
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:58.880
I'm kinda nearby, Like so there's I live in Lancaster County,
1299
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:00.720
and then there's York County on the other side of
1300
01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:04.039
the Susquehanna, and then like above that is is is
1301
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:07.800
Cumberland County and or I'll say Lebanon County two. So
1302
01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:11.079
these four counties, and what I've noticed is that each
1303
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:13.960
and this is probably true for most areas, like counties
1304
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:16.079
have a certain flavor, like you know, this is the
1305
01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:17.800
way this county is, and this is the way this
1306
01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:22.079
county is, and the mask wearing is totally in alignment
1307
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:25.760
on those lines, Like you know, Lancaster tends to be
1308
01:26:26.600 --> 01:26:29.520
a little bit more uptight, a little bit more like
1309
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:32.880
you know, things are orderly, and people are all wearing
1310
01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:36.119
their mask much more and Likester like takes itself very seriously.
1311
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:38.840
They go to York County and your county is like
1312
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.640
I think there's their tagline is like historically edgy, which
1313
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:46.239
is mean, like from as long as you could remember,
1314
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:49.000
this is where like any shit goes and so you
1315
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:51.399
drive it New York, it's like any shit goes and
1316
01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:53.600
like people are like, you know, they've got like a
1317
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:55.720
mask on their phone, but they don't have it on
1318
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:57.520
their face, and they're like, I don't give a fuck.
1319
01:26:57.600 --> 01:26:59.960
You know, that's yourk county and maybe some people are
1320
01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:02.039
wearing it. And then you go into like maybe a
1321
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:05.640
little bit more rural areas like in Lebanon or Cumberland,
1322
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:07.600
and it's like people like, no, I'm not gonna wear
1323
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.199
a mask because it's no one's right to tell me
1324
01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:10.960
I'm gonna wear a mask, and I'm just not, you know,
1325
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:13.800
And it's it's it's that and I think that that's
1326
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.159
where those kind of like if we want to look
1327
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.439
at things in the most basic level, like we can
1328
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.439
look at these demographics in terms of like who's going
1329
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.119
to be listening to it, you know, and it shouldn't
1330
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:29.039
be any surprise, Like it's it's the the same part
1331
01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:36.039
of the population which is under the spell of everything else,
1332
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:39.279
which is in the storyline, Like, uh, you know, it
1333
01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:41.840
fits so much with you know, I don't want to
1334
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.840
be general because it's not it's there's individuals, but like
1335
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.960
this kind of like social justice warrior progressive sort of
1336
01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:50.720
that like that's where it's most embraced, Like that's where
1337
01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:54.600
it's cool to cool to have cool to have, uh,
1338
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:57.960
the the wear the mask and and you know, the
1339
01:27:58.039 --> 01:28:00.640
pandemic hasn't gone away. And that's sort of And I
1340
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:02.600
got a lot of friends who are in that community
1341
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:05.119
are like people I know, like before things got ugly,
1342
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:07.800
And so I don't find it my job to want
1343
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.479
to go and question someone else's story because there's a
1344
01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:12.800
reason someone holds on to a story. They have to
1345
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:15.439
let it go themselves. So like that's why I'm a
1346
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.960
little bit like, you know, I tiptoe around it. But
1347
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:22.560
the other people, for whatever reason they're for not subscribing,
1348
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:24.520
like you know, they're not going to buy into that,
1349
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:26.720
and I think it's going to gather more and more steam.
1350
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:28.840
Is like they're probably not going to put their masks
1351
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:29.600
on it all again.
1352
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.920
One of the things that's happening right now that I'm
1353
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:37.159
sure you've noticed is the basically it's just a racing history.
1354
01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.159
They're taking all our beloved childhood cartoon characters and we
1355
01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.520
won't see those guys anymore because they're offensive to some people,
1356
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:49.359
you know, just dis cancel culture where anything that doesn't
1357
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.439
fit the narrative, anything that offends a certain group of people,
1358
01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.079
is getting erased from history. And you know, anybody that
1359
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.880
says our history books aren't accurate, oh, they wouldn't do that.
1360
01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:01.439
Look at what's happen happening right now, right in front
1361
01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:05.039
of our faces. It's you know, basically just book burning.
1362
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.640
And I wonder if you know, our future generations are
1363
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:11.079
going to know the truth about what really happened during
1364
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.039
this time because we don't know the real truth about
1365
01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:16.960
what happened in our recent history according to our you know,
1366
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:21.600
just textbooks that you go to your you know, modern academia,
1367
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:24.760
your your your education system is going to show you
1368
01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:25.960
you won't get it there either.
1369
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.279
So yeah, you make a very valid point. And I
1370
01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:34.119
look at it from two different ways. Like one is like, yes,
1371
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:38.720
that the the the both the history and the culture
1372
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.720
which which we grew up in. We're seeing that erased
1373
01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.119
before our eyes, and we're seeing it being erased in
1374
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:50.000
a dramatic way. But my sense is this is kind
1375
01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:52.920
of how it's always been, you know, in certain ways.
1376
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:56.800
So it's like there's there is a continuity, like right
1377
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.159
now is more extreme than what it was ten years ago.
1378
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:02.880
But but like nonetheless, so there's kind of that and
1379
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.920
I hold the opinion like I don't know what. I
1380
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:08.760
don't trust any of the history anyway, so it's like,
1381
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.239
you know, it's the best. I don't have a better history.
1382
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:15.199
And that's one of the thing reasons why like like
1383
01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:21.239
so many of these other narratives are able to people
1384
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:23.760
will grab hold on it is because we don't have
1385
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:26.600
a history or we inherently know that what we're told
1386
01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:29.239
isn't the whole thing. So where there's like a hole
1387
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:31.560
in us, whether we're conscious of it or not, Like
1388
01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.199
I want to know, I want to know who am I,
1389
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:37.199
where did I come from? And so like there's much
1390
01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:40.159
more willingness to like accept something which like you know,
1391
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:42.399
well this answers some of the questions. So like that's
1392
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:47.439
definitely in play. But then the flip side, though, is
1393
01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:55.199
about the erasing of of what we had, what we
1394
01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:58.680
remember in terms of our culture, Like this comes with
1395
01:30:59.000 --> 01:30:59.880
the whole idea.
1396
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:00.800
Uh of.
1397
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:05.960
There's a lot of potentiality because here's the here's the
1398
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:12.439
every the nay. What history also does, what knowing your
1399
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:17.159
past also does is it holds you to it you know,
1400
01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:19.199
when you are linked to this, you know this is
1401
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.199
this is a big deal. And we see this a lot.
1402
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:24.439
We see this a lot with like in in a
1403
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:27.039
lot of cultures where where like you know, things are
1404
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.159
are really held on to which which are like you know,
1405
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:34.000
we must not forget, and like there's there's a truth
1406
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.359
to that, but then there's also like a like I'm
1407
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:39.800
not moving on. I'm not moving on, and so as
1408
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:42.520
we're seeing like a lot of the a lot of
1409
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:45.960
the past being erased, Like if you want to get
1410
01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:49.840
down into like a psychological spiritual level, it's like you're
1411
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.840
being freed up. There's there's space being created. Like everything
1412
01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:56.199
is new. Guess what, that was probably a lie to
1413
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:59.600
begin with anyway, and now we're making it even easier
1414
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.840
to create a new one. And guess what. Even else,
1415
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:05.279
you're not going through this shit by yourself because everyone
1416
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:07.600
is in the same boat, because there's a point in
1417
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:11.279
every human being's life, like you know, probably between like
1418
01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.000
forty two to fifty two is in one aspect and
1419
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:16.520
then like it continues like up until like seventy and
1420
01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:18.920
then like wherever it is at seventy is where it stays.
1421
01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:23.760
Where we go through a reckoning where we go through
1422
01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:28.760
a reckoning, and so that usually happens within each individual's
1423
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:31.279
personal journey. But what they've done is they put everyone
1424
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.720
on the same timeline right now, and so because of that,
1425
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:38.960
you know, there's a there is a you know, this
1426
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.279
idea of herd immunity is inverted. The herd immunity. The
1427
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:44.800
truth of the herd immunity has to do with the
1428
01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:48.960
interconnectedness of humanity. Like that's the truth. That's the truth.
1429
01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:52.159
And when we're all strong, we can feel that. And
1430
01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:54.600
so like when we all go through something at the
1431
01:32:54.680 --> 01:32:57.840
same time, like there is a strength there as well,
1432
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.800
but there's like, you know, we have that opportunity. One
1433
01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.439
of the things which which I've been thinking about, or
1434
01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:07.880
which has been in my mind a lot recently, is
1435
01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:11.600
the whole adage of like, you know, if you only
1436
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:14.760
knew how powerful we were, Like that used to be
1437
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:17.920
a phrase which I was very familiar with, which I
1438
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.720
would think of coming from like like like the very
1439
01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:24.199
new age sort of like you know, we're these multidimensional beings.
1440
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:26.359
And I'm not saying we're not multidimensional beings, but a
1441
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:28.760
lot of that just always felt like very fluffy to
1442
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:31.720
me and I'd roll my eyes. But I'm thinking about
1443
01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:34.960
that now in a in a different perspective, and I
1444
01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:37.199
think this is one of the neat things of experiences,
1445
01:33:37.239 --> 01:33:38.800
because you could go back to how you used to
1446
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:40.920
think of things and like, wow, look at how I've changed,
1447
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.479
And I'm really looking at what has been done to
1448
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:48.319
humanity in terms of shaping our consciousness, like from the
1449
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:53.119
endoctrination of education, like all like billboards, Like you, we
1450
01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:55.279
don't even have any idea what it's like to not
1451
01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:58.239
be bombarded with billboards and stop signs and like all
1452
01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:01.000
this sort of stuff. And so coming to this the
1453
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.640
the reverse conclusion of like, well, that's a lot of
1454
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:08.119
fucking effort. Why would they be Why would that much
1455
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:12.079
effort go into this? Like what requires this much effort?
1456
01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:14.119
And then I go back to that statement. I'm like,
1457
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:16.600
oh my god, they don't know how powerful we are.
1458
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:18.680
And I used to take that like like I like
1459
01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:22.119
I took it seriously, But now I'm taking it seriously
1460
01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:24.439
in a different way, with like almost more of a
1461
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.000
curiosity as opposed to like, oh it means like you know,
1462
01:34:28.159 --> 01:34:30.840
this multi dimensional being is like well, well what does
1463
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.199
that mean? Like what happens if we are not like
1464
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:36.760
shaped And this is why I'm like going back to like,
1465
01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:40.560
let me start to deconstruct, like what the calendar is,
1466
01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:43.880
let me deconstruct what time is, and like, let me
1467
01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:46.239
also be realistic and like, how do I continue to
1468
01:34:46.359 --> 01:34:49.079
work with it so that I can tell I could
1469
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:51.800
line up my timing with you so that we could
1470
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:54.119
do the show. Like I understand the purpose of this stuff.
1471
01:34:54.399 --> 01:34:57.199
So I find that very exciting. I find that very exciting.
1472
01:34:57.960 --> 01:35:01.720
That is, and earlier you mean that there's you've noticed
1473
01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:06.199
some collective changes and people in the environment, and I
1474
01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:10.560
believe that there is a major change probably even coming
1475
01:35:10.680 --> 01:35:15.399
up soon cosmically based on the place in space that
1476
01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:19.560
we are. I've had a few researchers on lately. I've
1477
01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:24.479
had Ben Davidson from the Mobile Observatory Project saying that
1478
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:29.279
we could even possibly see some major events in our
1479
01:35:29.359 --> 01:35:32.880
lifetime coming from space because of the Sun, the activity
1480
01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:35.600
from the Sun. And I think that could possibly be
1481
01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:38.800
dictating a lot of the weird things that have been
1482
01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:40.479
happening on our planet.
1483
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:41.359
What do you think about that?
1484
01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:45.359
I think that's exactly right. I think that is exactly right.
1485
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:50.319
And and you know, going back to all of this
1486
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:56.000
this stuff which I'm saying is I'm I think that
1487
01:35:56.239 --> 01:35:59.199
that's what what I'm seeing in my life, and I
1488
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:02.479
think that's what we're seeing. The timing of these stories
1489
01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:07.079
that are being presented by the media and the deconstruction
1490
01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:09.840
is and going back to the like you know, what
1491
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.880
we were exposed to as children and erasing all of
1492
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:18.399
that is to be able to experience slash witness this
1493
01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:26.199
without a predetermined uh storyline of what it is?
1494
01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:28.319
You know that?
1495
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:34.399
That's that to me, is is is where the the
1496
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:39.520
real interesting value comes from or or or or at
1497
01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:44.960
least this at least this being immensely conscious with the
1498
01:36:45.319 --> 01:36:49.600
story in which that's going to be interpreted. And when
1499
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:52.079
I say story, I just mean like the lens, the logic, Oh,
1500
01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:54.359
this is happening, this, you know, this is the this
1501
01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:56.920
is the hopey prophecy, this is the this is the
1502
01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:00.079
fifth Son, this is the you know whatever storyline like
1503
01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:03.600
if that resonates at least recognized like it's it's a
1504
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:09.840
storyline explaining something greater than a story. So Ben Day,
1505
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:13.479
is that the guy from uh what was its suspicious observers?
1506
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:14.159
Yes?
1507
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:17.960
God? So like like I go back like ten years
1508
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.159
watching it like it's probably been like a handful years
1509
01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:22.079
since I've seen that, but I remember, like back in
1510
01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:24.640
the twenty twelve, like like when this guy was first
1511
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.359
coming up and like all of those sort of like
1512
01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:30.239
parts that were going in into my mind and then
1513
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:33.199
I don't know if you remember, like comments was it Eleanin?
1514
01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:37.119
And like that whole time, Like it's seeing all of that,
1515
01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:41.600
so like like living through those experiences of like, oh,
1516
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:46.000
it's gonna happen. I remember exactly like when I don't
1517
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.520
remember was it Ice? On the other one, there was
1518
01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:51.720
a second comments comment and I was like, today's day,
1519
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:53.920
it's going to hit this on today's day. It's gonna happen.
1520
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:55.479
And I remember.
1521
01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:57.880
Exactly where I was and then I and I was
1522
01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.079
telling everyone, I'm like, all right, well, you know, I
1523
01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:02.800
don't want to freak anyone out, bar you might want
1524
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:05.000
to look up in the sky. In about twenty minutes,
1525
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:07.880
and then like when nothing happened. So it's like I've
1526
01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:09.920
kind of been through that, but I also but but
1527
01:38:10.079 --> 01:38:12.760
there is stuff happening. There is, you know. And so
1528
01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:15.520
the fact that Ben who's who's like an expert in
1529
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:18.479
his field, right, the dude's a genius and the way
1530
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:21.399
he explains things or points things out. You know, I'm
1531
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:25.319
giving him the benefit of doubt that that, you know, yeah, say,
1532
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:29.119
benefit the doubt you gotta give me. But so, what
1533
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:30.640
is he saying is going to happen?
1534
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:32.239
What is he? What? What is what?
1535
01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:33.439
What's not just him?
1536
01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:34.399
There's a few others that.
1537
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:37.239
What are they? What is capturing their attention?
1538
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:38.399
The Sun?
1539
01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:43.000
The solar minimum really uh that in combination with our
1540
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:46.880
very weak magnetic field and the fact that it is moving,
1541
01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:52.319
it's it's migrating north. Uh, the South Atlantic anomaly, which
1542
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:56.000
is a major magnetic anomaly, uh, right next to f
1543
01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:59.960
South Africa, and it's pulling our magnetic field and eventually
1544
01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:03.079
it could cause a reversal of the magnetic field, which
1545
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:05.279
first of all, the first mag news about that is
1546
01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:09.640
no power, no electricity, no internet for god knows how long.
1547
01:39:10.119 --> 01:39:12.039
And that's a big enough problem as it is, you know,
1548
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:15.880
not to mention possibility of solar flares once our you know,
1549
01:39:16.039 --> 01:39:19.000
magnetosphere is so weak it can't protect the planet anymore.
1550
01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:22.840
So these are you know, the possibilities that they're worried
1551
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.880
about within the next even five to ten years.
1552
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:31.000
Okay, So so tho those have been topics which which
1553
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.720
have been followed for at least ten years, like we've
1554
01:39:33.720 --> 01:39:36.159
been watching those things. This is like so I was wondering,
1555
01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:38.880
like did they see something else? But like my senses
1556
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:41.479
like this goes back to like the UFO phenomenon of
1557
01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:43.399
what like this story and like you know, is this
1558
01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:46.800
going to be Project Bluebeam or what have you it?
1559
01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:49.039
And like the whole idea like why are they spraying
1560
01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:52.000
the skies? You know it's to cover that like and
1561
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.399
and the whole NEWBIU. I like definitely went down the
1562
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:56.680
de bureau thing, Like I'm still open with that. That's
1563
01:39:56.720 --> 01:40:00.119
one of my favorite stories. But like something is is
1564
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:04.159
is moving us towards like seeing something with our own
1565
01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:10.600
eyes and and that that makes that that's a story
1566
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:13.600
which which which I like to which makes sense to
1567
01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:15.720
me or like one of those like I don't know
1568
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:18.760
if that's gonna happen, but you know, I'm kinda I'm
1569
01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:22.159
eighteen percent open to that. And this is what I
1570
01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.439
think this is. This is Mike's opinion. I'm gonna show
1571
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:26.279
you you didn't ask me Mike's opinion, but Mike's gonna
1572
01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:32.760
give you his opinion. You mentioned the the the the
1573
01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:36.720
coming down of electricity and the Internet and all of
1574
01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:42.479
that sort of stuff as it relates to magnetic reversal.
1575
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.399
And were you living in Florida when well it was
1576
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:47.880
in Tampa like what like eight years ago when like
1577
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.159
they had to redo the airport like directionals because the
1578
01:40:51.239 --> 01:40:52.319
magnet heard but you.
1579
01:40:52.319 --> 01:40:55.039
Know, so like back to Louisiana at that time.
1580
01:40:55.439 --> 01:40:57.319
Yeah, Like like I mean, so this is this has
1581
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.920
been this has been uh talked about and witnessed and
1582
01:41:01.279 --> 01:41:04.279
experience for some time. And it's definitely heat heating up.
1583
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:09.840
So so there are a couple things like I personally
1584
01:41:09.960 --> 01:41:14.000
think that electricity, Internet, all of these things that we've
1585
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:18.520
been born into and we've become uh uh connected.
1586
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:18.439
To like.
1587
01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:22.359
All of it. All of it, like in every single
1588
01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:27.039
way is to our uh it doesn't serve any of us.
1589
01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:30.680
It doesn't serve us. And so like having that is
1590
01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:33.399
just even a storyline in the mind if this does occur,
1591
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:35.840
like you know, I'm already in that position. But that
1592
01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:39.279
being said, how the human being works is we connect.
1593
01:41:39.399 --> 01:41:41.319
We have to connect. We have an inner world and
1594
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.159
there's an outer world, and that outer world is good,
1595
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:46.640
You're gonna connect to it. But you have some degree
1596
01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:51.359
of control as to what part of the outer world
1597
01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:54.520
you're connecting to. And so that's why it's like going
1598
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:57.079
back to like, this is why they the rituals are
1599
01:41:57.159 --> 01:41:59.119
half for us to see, because they want to capture
1600
01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:02.000
our attention. Rich are magnetic. They're gonna pull us in
1601
01:42:02.039 --> 01:42:03.920
and we're gonna watch and we're gonna connect. We're gonna
1602
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:08.239
we're gonna line into it. So like when I when
1603
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:10.960
I say like, I'm not trying to sound like you know, uh,
1604
01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.560
when I when I'm about what I'm gonna say, I'm
1605
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:18.560
not trying to sound like in the typical stereo the
1606
01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:21.560
stereotypical way that this is mentioned. Like, I'm looking at
1607
01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:23.359
this in a very for at least for me, in
1608
01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:27.840
a very very fresh way. Is connecting with the natural world. Again,
1609
01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:30.560
the natural world's mystery. I you know, I don't think
1610
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:32.800
the natural worlds what what we think it is, but
1611
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:36.479
it is the most real which we have, and it
1612
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:39.920
is my sense, it is my sense to things.
1613
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:40.079
That that.
1614
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:46.560
In the event whether a purposeful or an or an
1615
01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:53.760
environmental collapse of those systems, it is through the connection, uh,
1616
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:56.800
in the natural world. And we could go a little
1617
01:42:56.800 --> 01:42:58.800
bit more into like what this means in the working
1618
01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:03.439
knowledge that will move people to where they need to go.
1619
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:06.159
And I mean that in the most practical sense, Like
1620
01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:10.000
I'm not like suggesting some sort of uh uh road
1621
01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:15.279
warrior uh uh, post apocalyptic future and like you know
1622
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:18.239
that we're gonna we're gonna no, I think that that
1623
01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:21.239
it's it's going to be more close to what we
1624
01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:24.720
understand civilization to be. But but whether it's with the
1625
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:28.159
right people in the right place doing the right things,
1626
01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:31.399
like uh that is going to be driven through the
1627
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:36.600
natural world. And so what's happening so much, particularly in
1628
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.279
this past year to like connect everyone, like by by
1629
01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:42.000
shutting everything down and making the only connection or the
1630
01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:45.199
primary connection people would have with other peoples through technology,
1631
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:48.479
Like you know, it's further taking people away from or
1632
01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:52.680
further ingraty ingratiating them to to what we're calling the
1633
01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:56.520
Internet and all that that that may be. You know,
1634
01:43:56.600 --> 01:43:58.319
when that goes away, that's gonna be shocked to a
1635
01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:04.960
lot of people. But the natural world and the currents
1636
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.680
of the natural world, I think is the the as
1637
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:10.840
a window shuts or a door shuts, a window opens,
1638
01:44:10.880 --> 01:44:12.600
and we're gonna see that. And I don't think everyone's
1639
01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:15.159
gonna follow that. I don't think that's the case at all.
1640
01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:18.359
But I think for those if this, if this unfolds,
1641
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:21.279
and I think it's gonna unfold, you know, and I
1642
01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:24.239
think sooner or later, whether it's gonna be exactly something
1643
01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:28.319
we see in the sky, But that does make sense. Uh,
1644
01:44:29.319 --> 01:44:32.479
We're gonna go Everything we need is going to be right,
1645
01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:36.079
is going to be right where it's not gonna be
1646
01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:39.479
hard to get. That is part of the storyline of
1647
01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:42.279
like limitation of like you know, you need to have
1648
01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:45.079
two years worth of food, and you need to have batteries,
1649
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:47.439
and you need to have no no, we don't need
1650
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:52.039
electricity at all. We and and this is how we
1651
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:55.239
erase all of that and we begin to really step
1652
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:58.880
into other ways of of what it means to be
1653
01:44:58.920 --> 01:45:02.159
a human being, right, And it.
1654
01:45:02.239 --> 01:45:05.239
Makes man, it makes me think of the simulation theory.
1655
01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:08.760
How you were saying, you know, you kept waiting for
1656
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:12.720
you know, these catastrophic major events to come throughout your lifetime,
1657
01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:15.119
whenever someone would be talking about it. You know, I
1658
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:18.279
went through the same things Planet X, you know, the
1659
01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:22.159
Great Alignment of twocenty seventeen, all these you know, supposed
1660
01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:26.000
mays oh was a crazy alignment. Yeah, all of these
1661
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:29.039
major supposed to be you know, world ending events that
1662
01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:31.119
just keep going. You know, the world just keeps going
1663
01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:34.319
as these time as time passes. It makes me think of,
1664
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:38.560
you know, if we're in this major simulation and you know,
1665
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:41.239
say it is time for a major reset, they were
1666
01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:44.039
just like a video game for some weird alien and
1667
01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.239
he's just so sick of the way things are going.
1668
01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:48.720
He just you know, presses that reset button and that's
1669
01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:51.960
that's the way, you know, we have a magnetic reversal
1670
01:45:52.039 --> 01:45:54.199
or something like that. You know, it makes me think
1671
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:59.159
that you know, somehow this is all you know, controlled
1672
01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:04.880
or by some higher level and connected through some kind
1673
01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:08.119
of you know, simulated reality.
1674
01:46:07.720 --> 01:46:10.119
Or something like that. It just always my mind always
1675
01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:10.640
goes there.
1676
01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:16.520
So that's an interesting topic. And when I was sang
1677
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:20.399
before like the mystery, like you know, the human experience
1678
01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:22.439
is at the heart is a mystery. We don't know
1679
01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:24.119
who we are, we don't know how we got here,
1680
01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:25.920
we don't know what we're supposed to do. Despite their
1681
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.760
being all these great stories which answer that, if you're
1682
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:32.479
being honest, you're going to come to that point and
1683
01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:34.479
a lot of people come to that point and they
1684
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.479
try to solve you know, they're like, I, you know,
1685
01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:38.039
I'm really going to go and try to solve it.
1686
01:46:38.079 --> 01:46:41.239
I want to know what the answer is. I'm very
1687
01:46:41.319 --> 01:46:43.399
comfortable with just saying like it's a mystery. I don't
1688
01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:48.560
think it's meant to be solved. And my sense is,
1689
01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:57.680
particularly as it relates to simulation theory. So if you'll
1690
01:46:57.720 --> 01:46:59.640
take a step back, so we see like a lot
1691
01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.239
of different and you know, there are other stories that
1692
01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:05.239
were told of other cultures where they talk about like
1693
01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:10.119
just regular baseline reality, natural world reality, like you know,
1694
01:47:10.239 --> 01:47:14.680
it's it's maya, it's the illusion, it's dream time, it's
1695
01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:17.039
you know, you're made of atoms and atoms are empty
1696
01:47:17.119 --> 01:47:19.399
and so you're not solid like all that sort of stuff.
1697
01:47:20.079 --> 01:47:24.199
And I think the simulation, but calling it the simulation, uh,
1698
01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.560
and when they introduce that as an idea, like it's
1699
01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:32.159
it's in that same vein, it's in that same vein,
1700
01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.239
it's pointing to the same fact as like it ain't
1701
01:47:34.279 --> 01:47:38.359
what you see. But when they say simulation, uh, that
1702
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:42.479
is and this is my opinion, is it's to shape
1703
01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:46.159
the way which which the person understands that as an
1704
01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:48.640
idea and they want it to be shaped in a
1705
01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:54.279
computer language context. And even more so, like this idea
1706
01:47:54.600 --> 01:47:57.760
of like this being a simulation or you being a simulation,
1707
01:47:58.319 --> 01:48:00.640
because it's a it's a bit of a double double bind.
1708
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:03.159
It's a double bind. And what a double bind means
1709
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:05.880
is you're pulled in two directions, like the binding is
1710
01:48:05.960 --> 01:48:09.279
pulling in opposite direction, so you know, you're, you're, you're,
1711
01:48:09.439 --> 01:48:12.039
you can't move, and it's a it's a very strong
1712
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:17.680
hypnotic technique to create psychological double binds because it holds
1713
01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:20.680
people in a place of not being able to move.
1714
01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:25.239
And so when they start like introducing the idea of
1715
01:48:25.960 --> 01:48:31.000
of this being a simulation, uh, you automatically begin to
1716
01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:36.119
to see the second version of yourself separate from yourself,
1717
01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:39.039
which is a big part of like how this false
1718
01:48:39.159 --> 01:48:44.640
reality works is because it creates all of these secondary
1719
01:48:44.840 --> 01:48:48.800
second cities, like you of of reality, which you then
1720
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:52.159
think of as reality, so that you miss the big picture.
1721
01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:55.600
Like that's the every part of of of culture we
1722
01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:57.880
can look at that way, and part of psychology, like
1723
01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:00.920
you know, that's what the personality is. You're not your name,
1724
01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:03.840
You're not like these experiences but we identify with this
1725
01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:07.319
falseness and so all of this is false. So when
1726
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:11.119
I hear that, like the simulation theory, like I think
1727
01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.079
it's both like part of like their storyline of making
1728
01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:19.680
everything so computer oriented and and also like it has
1729
01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:23.199
this psychological impact, which which kind of is like, well,
1730
01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:25.399
am I real? Is this not real? Is this not
1731
01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:29.079
a real thing? But that being said, I think it's
1732
01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:33.239
probably an accurate model of maybe what this is, Like
1733
01:49:33.319 --> 01:49:36.159
there's something whatever it is, this mystery of life is
1734
01:49:36.279 --> 01:49:39.119
like like I think that's a fair analogy, like, yeah,
1735
01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:41.479
it's getting a reboot, like it's changing. And this is
1736
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:44.039
where we hear like you know, it's the fifth Son.
1737
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:48.760
It's like something's changing on the fundamental level. I call
1738
01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:50.960
it the fundamental level. But like you know, maybe it's
1739
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.479
an operating system. Maybe it's like you know, a whole
1740
01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:56.680
new game. Like I like those are as analogies. I
1741
01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:00.880
think they're very just, but I'm not willing to to
1742
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:03.479
go there is like this is what I think is happening.
1743
01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:07.359
I'm I'm just sitting in the mystery. I'm like it's changing,
1744
01:50:07.439 --> 01:50:10.159
and I think that that what you're describing is accurate,
1745
01:50:10.680 --> 01:50:14.800
and and there may be even be there's gonna be
1746
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:19.439
uh a cleaning of how of house you know, maybe
1747
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:23.039
that's kind of happening as well. And what I'm talking
1748
01:50:23.119 --> 01:50:25.640
about and what what you're talking about in terms of
1749
01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:27.319
like what do you do during this time?
1750
01:50:27.960 --> 01:50:28.039
Uh?
1751
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:32.439
You know, there there seemingly is like some carryover. And
1752
01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:36.000
what I think we're talking about is what the carryover
1753
01:50:36.279 --> 01:50:38.439
is going to look like. Who are the people who
1754
01:50:38.520 --> 01:50:41.239
are recognizing that I'm not going to go down that storyline.
1755
01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:43.640
Who are the people who are beginning to think different ways?
1756
01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:47.720
Who are who are you gravitating to? And that's and
1757
01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:50.960
and and they're gonna be uh, you know, if we're
1758
01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:54.319
gonna go this this like the the the the next version,
1759
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:56.479
you know, those are gonna be the carryovers, and they're
1760
01:50:56.479 --> 01:50:58.840
gonna be the ones who are going to be part
1761
01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:02.840
of wherever this goes. That's my That's one story.
1762
01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:04.479
Yeah, it could be.
1763
01:51:04.640 --> 01:51:08.720
And I've noticed some some changes and things that are
1764
01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:12.319
leading me to certain places in my life. Uh, some
1765
01:51:12.479 --> 01:51:16.319
pretty profound things that I can't ignore. And you mentioned
1766
01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.640
you've noticed some collective changes and even in the environment,
1767
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:22.359
you know, one of one of the things, speaking of
1768
01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:24.640
the sun, I noticed changes in the sun. I noticed
1769
01:51:24.720 --> 01:51:26.680
changes in the color of the sun. And when I
1770
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:28.560
was a kid, I thought it used to look orange.
1771
01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:30.560
Now I think it looks like a white light bulb.
1772
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:33.800
And I've got validation that there the sun is indeed
1773
01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:37.000
changed colors. Uh what what kind of changes are you
1774
01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:40.319
noticing around you lately that are kind of uh, pretty
1775
01:51:40.319 --> 01:51:40.960
profound for you.
1776
01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:43.960
So the.
1777
01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.079
There have been a couple of days, like I'm very
1778
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:50.560
observant of the sun, and particularly like what you're saying,
1779
01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:52.960
the color and there's, there's and and I try to
1780
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.720
understand it like in location, like whereas it's setting and rise,
1781
01:51:55.760 --> 01:51:57.560
and I like to follow that too. But there have
1782
01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:00.520
been like two days in particular in the last year
1783
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:03.880
where I was like, this sun looks different than sometime.
1784
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:04.039
I've seen it.
1785
01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:07.319
So I'm just kidding. I'm supporting what you're saying with
1786
01:52:07.720 --> 01:52:12.000
the sun. The most interesting thing right now, which which
1787
01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:14.840
is just like you know, it both has me tickled
1788
01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:23.239
but then also curious, like tickled and curious. So I
1789
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:26.119
got like a I got like a I got like
1790
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:28.359
a front porch, and I like to sit on my
1791
01:52:28.439 --> 01:52:30.199
front porch in the morning and I like to drink
1792
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:32.600
my morning drink, right, I like to drink my hot coffee,
1793
01:52:34.359 --> 01:52:37.159
and I like to do it early in the morning.
1794
01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:40.640
And it's somewhat of a busy road which I'm on.
1795
01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:44.359
But where the actual piece of property the house is
1796
01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:46.000
built on, this is like you know, this is like
1797
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:50.880
a nineteen fifties kind of subdivision sort of thing, like
1798
01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:56.199
to picture where it is, you know, relatively high density
1799
01:52:56.319 --> 01:52:58.720
for a suburb. You know, I'm about ten minutes outside
1800
01:52:58.720 --> 01:53:03.479
of Lancaster City. I happen to be like in a
1801
01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:06.239
really high concentration of trees. In fact, where I am
1802
01:53:06.319 --> 01:53:09.279
has amazing trees, has amazing trees. It's like known for
1803
01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:11.399
their trees. So but where I am in this high
1804
01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:13.840
concentration trees, there's like a lot of birds. And I've
1805
01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:15.560
been in this house for about a year and a
1806
01:53:15.600 --> 01:53:19.399
half now and uh as I've been sitting out on
1807
01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:23.560
the on the porch this spring more so than ever before.
1808
01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:26.960
Like I've been paying attention to the birds. I've been
1809
01:53:26.960 --> 01:53:29.159
paying attention to the birds like I've always paid attention
1810
01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:32.399
but like not but but like it's it's different now,
1811
01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:36.399
it's different and like I uh, I mean, of course
1812
01:53:36.399 --> 01:53:38.359
I'm gonna talk to them, like you hear them singing,
1813
01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:41.560
and I'm noticing of them and I can't I don't whistle. Well,
1814
01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:45.119
so I'm doing just like like they'll whistle, and I'm
1815
01:53:45.159 --> 01:53:48.359
doing this whole sort of thing. So I've been doing
1816
01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:50.079
this for like I don't know, like a month now,
1817
01:53:50.560 --> 01:53:53.119
and I'm beginning to like, you know, certain birds are
1818
01:53:53.159 --> 01:53:55.680
coming back to me and like, you know, there there's
1819
01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:57.960
like a trust which is happening, Like some of them
1820
01:53:58.319 --> 01:54:02.079
are are walking up this sidewalk towards me. Like none
1821
01:54:02.079 --> 01:54:04.439
of them have like sat on my shoulder or anything. Uh,
1822
01:54:04.840 --> 01:54:07.239
but what's happened in the last week. This has happened
1823
01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:11.760
three times. This has happened three times with three different birds.
1824
01:54:12.520 --> 01:54:16.720
When I'm lying in my bed. In my bedroom, a
1825
01:54:16.840 --> 01:54:20.680
bird comes to the window and just flies like holds
1826
01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:23.800
like that same elevation in front of the window and
1827
01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:27.680
is like tapping on the window. It's happened with a cardinal,
1828
01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:30.520
It's happened with a dove, and it's happened with a robin.
1829
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:34.800
And I'm like, well, you know, this has not happened before.
1830
01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:37.279
I have seen birds tap on a window before, obviously,
1831
01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:39.760
but not like this, and not with this beginning of
1832
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.760
this connection with the birds. And even more interesting, I
1833
01:54:42.840 --> 01:54:45.920
do a regular show with Emma Lee Moyer and like
1834
01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:48.399
maybe two three weeks ago, like she brought up this
1835
01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:52.840
idea of like there was this this website which and
1836
01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:56.680
this you know, quote unquote movement of birds aren't real,
1837
01:54:57.439 --> 01:54:59.720
Birds aren't We had like a whole show just talking
1838
01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:02.439
about birds aren't real. And so now all of this
1839
01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:05.600
stuff is happening and I'm witnessing it, and so as
1840
01:55:05.680 --> 01:55:07.239
I said, like, the only thing I got is like
1841
01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:09.840
I'm tickled. I'm like, this is making me laugh because
1842
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:11.920
I'm talking about birds and now the birds are knocking
1843
01:55:11.960 --> 01:55:15.119
on my window. And then and then I'm curious. I'm like,
1844
01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:17.840
you know, not jumping to any stories because I'm hearing
1845
01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:19.520
all these different stories, like you know, I got my
1846
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:22.000
Ted Andrew's book, like you know, what does this mean?
1847
01:55:22.239 --> 01:55:24.079
But then I'm like, but birds aren't weird. But then
1848
01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:26.920
like everything's changing, and so I'm sitting in this like
1849
01:55:27.199 --> 01:55:32.680
a position of curiosity of like not knowing, but like
1850
01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.840
but like really interestingly. All right, well, like where is
1851
01:55:35.880 --> 01:55:38.680
this gonna go? Where is this gonna take me? I'm
1852
01:55:38.720 --> 01:55:45.000
seeing stuff like that. Uh, here's another interesting thing, like
1853
01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:50.760
I have like a subscribe star page, and so like,
1854
01:55:50.800 --> 01:55:52.600
if you're gonna be on my subscribe star page, you
1855
01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:55.239
probably like resonate with like a lot of my work,
1856
01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:59.359
or at least the particular way I see things. You
1857
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:02.439
like to hear the stories. And so that's a small group,
1858
01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:06.079
you know, maybe they're like eighty people there. And one
1859
01:56:06.159 --> 01:56:08.239
of the guys who I just go through the subscribe
1860
01:56:08.239 --> 01:56:10.479
stir In fact, I did a session with him. I
1861
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:13.359
do someone on one work, but he didn't tell me this,
1862
01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:15.720
but he was gonna come up. I do a lot
1863
01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:18.079
of work about this one specific place called the fortieth
1864
01:56:18.159 --> 01:56:21.239
Parallel on the Susquehanna River, and I wrote this book
1865
01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:23.840
about these four different locations on there which you can
1866
01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:26.359
access and I kind of describe it. So I used
1867
01:56:26.399 --> 01:56:28.439
to live right on that spot. I could walk out
1868
01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:29.840
of where I used to live and ride on my
1869
01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:31.760
bike and ride to it. But now I don't have
1870
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:34.000
that luxury and like ten minutes away by car, so
1871
01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:35.279
I got to put a bike in a car and
1872
01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:38.800
like all that sort of stuff. So for the very
1873
01:56:38.960 --> 01:56:44.159
first time in uh since since it got warm, since
1874
01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:45.800
the spring, I'm like, I'm gonna go put my bike
1875
01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:49.680
in the car, i'm and go ride out and I
1876
01:56:49.840 --> 01:56:52.359
run into in one of these spots. It's you know,
1877
01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:55.359
I'm not going there regularly. I run into one of
1878
01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:59.439
this guy who is from the Subscribe Star group and
1879
01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.720
who I did a session with, who doesn't live in
1880
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:04.560
the area, who like, we had no idea. He didn't
1881
01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:06.960
know that I was coming up to this spot, and
1882
01:57:07.279 --> 01:57:09.119
I didn't know he was coming up to this spot.
1883
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:13.319
And the place is twenty miles long. It would have
1884
01:57:13.359 --> 01:57:16.199
been amazingly easy to not run into each other even
1885
01:57:16.239 --> 01:57:18.079
if we were there at the same time. But like
1886
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:21.920
it lined up perfectly and some seeing like this level
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01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:25.279
of synchronicity, this level of like you know, of of
1888
01:57:25.720 --> 01:57:29.600
of happening. But then at the same time, I'm also
1889
01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:34.359
seeing like weird stuff with with technology like that that beeping,
1890
01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:38.680
like stuff like that is going on. I've been.
1891
01:57:40.079 --> 01:57:40.760
This is weird.
1892
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The more vocal I talk, like, you know, I'm like,
1893
01:57:44.439 --> 01:57:45.960
I don't you know, I don't I don't like the
1894
01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:50.079
I don't like the the the doing my connections over
1895
01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:52.800
the internet and like voicing it and voicing why like
1896
01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:58.600
routers stop working, Like you know, my phone, my phone
1897
01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:00.560
is so jacked, and I kind of like it. Like
1898
01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:03.199
you know, I'm like I don't. I don't want to
1899
01:58:03.279 --> 01:58:05.720
get a new phone, and like you know, I understand,
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01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:08.159
like this is my connection in a certain way. But
1901
01:58:08.239 --> 01:58:10.840
I almost feel like I'm in this, like I'm walking
1902
01:58:10.920 --> 01:58:13.720
a line right now. I'm seeing all of this stuff happening,
1903
01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:16.279
and I'm doing it in this in this very uh
1904
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:19.800
which is different in a different way than before, in
1905
01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:23.079
this very curious way, or more curious than I had
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01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:23.960
been in the past.
1907
01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:26.960
Here's a little synchronicity to kind of add to that.
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01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:32.199
I've had a few paranormal researchers on telling me about
1909
01:58:32.239 --> 01:58:35.680
how Pennsylvania is just a huge paranormal hotspot. You know,
1910
01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:37.840
I've heard of other places around the United States, but
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01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:41.279
I never really thought of Pennsylvania being a really big
1912
01:58:41.359 --> 01:58:44.760
paranormal hotspot. But been telling me about all the crazy
1913
01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:49.520
things cryptids, paranormal UFOs, things that happen and in the
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01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:51.319
furrounding areas of Pennsylvania.
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01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:55.760
Have you noticed that as you've been And.
1916
01:58:56.760 --> 01:58:59.239
Yes, yes, yes, and like this is I didn't know that.
1917
01:58:59.319 --> 01:58:59.640
I didn't.
1918
01:58:59.760 --> 01:59:04.279
I born in Pennsylvania. Like life brought me to Pennsylvania.
1919
01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:07.039
Life brought me to like certain parts in pennsylvaniahere, I
1920
01:59:07.119 --> 01:59:08.680
was like, there's no an in hell, I'm ever gonna
1921
01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:10.720
live here. And I moved there, and like all of
1922
01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:13.319
these things kind of like unfolded in my life in
1923
01:59:13.399 --> 01:59:16.319
this mysterious way. So and I don't think this is
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01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:18.800
unique to Pennsylvania. But what I think is unique is
1925
01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:21.760
there are a lot of places, uh probably throughout the world.
1926
01:59:21.800 --> 01:59:24.680
I'm gonna focus upon the United States which are kind
1927
01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:28.640
of like written off, and those those tend to be
1928
01:59:28.800 --> 01:59:33.079
like really really like probably significant for a variety of reasons, uh,
1929
01:59:33.319 --> 01:59:36.720
particularly like you know, I'm thinking of Arkansas or Ohio
1930
01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:40.760
or like you know these kind of like uh places
1931
01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.880
where like no one really thinks of. But Pennsylvania is
1932
01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:48.359
one of them. Like geologically, Pennsylvania's in a different way
1933
01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:50.560
than where you are. So when we think of like
1934
01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:55.199
geological uniqueness, we think of like the Southwest, or we
1935
01:59:55.239 --> 01:59:57.720
think of the Rockies. We think, you know, that's that's
1936
01:59:57.840 --> 02:00:01.159
that's kind of like how it's positioned. So so Pennsylvania's
1937
02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:07.279
geological uniqueness is immensely uh special. I've gone into that,
1938
02:00:07.640 --> 02:00:11.319
particularly when I went into all of my work in Scranton,
1939
02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:14.640
Like all of the strange things in Scranton, and my senses,
1940
02:00:14.720 --> 02:00:18.680
it's because it's built upon this this huge geological anomaly
1941
02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:21.000
which has found nowhere else on earth. But we see
1942
02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:24.159
that with with all of the stone, the stones that
1943
02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:26.720
are found in Pennsylvania. Like the way that they tell
1944
02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:32.640
us what happened is during the Ice Age, the glaciers
1945
02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:36.359
as they expanded from from the north, they almost acted
1946
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:41.560
like a bulldozer scraping that top inch of of top
1947
02:00:41.760 --> 02:00:44.399
soil off of the ground. And they did that all
1948
02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:47.720
the way across North America, and then they began to
1949
02:00:47.800 --> 02:00:50.880
recede when they were what we think of is Pennsylvania
1950
02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:53.039
right now. So like you have a mixture of all
1951
02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:55.680
of this, of all of the geel, of all of
1952
02:00:55.760 --> 02:00:59.399
the that happening like in the geography or the geology
1953
02:00:59.439 --> 02:01:02.439
excuse me. Plus like you know, there's a connection between
1954
02:01:03.399 --> 02:01:07.520
what you find in Pennsylvania the geology, and what you
1955
02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:10.319
see on the western coast of Africa. Like you know,
1956
02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:12.800
they were told they were connected and they split apart.
1957
02:01:12.920 --> 02:01:15.399
So there's that. There's so many things. And then you
1958
02:01:15.520 --> 02:01:18.199
add in the levels of like you know, not even
1959
02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:23.000
going into like hidden history, but like like just what
1960
02:01:23.119 --> 02:01:26.680
we're told our North American founding of American history of
1961
02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:31.159
like what happened in Philadelphia, Like ross Ben has done
1962
02:01:31.159 --> 02:01:33.960
amazing job like showing all of that, and then you
1963
02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:38.479
tie that into what's going on in at Gettysburg and
1964
02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:41.760
you begin to recognize Gettysburg and what happened at the
1965
02:01:41.800 --> 02:01:44.720
Battle of Gettysburg is like you know, this like blood
1966
02:01:44.880 --> 02:01:49.000
ritual on this ancient land. And then you realize that
1967
02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:54.199
so much of the continuity of government occurs under the
1968
02:01:54.439 --> 02:01:59.359
earth in this like really like from Carlisle, Pennsylvania, down
1969
02:01:59.640 --> 02:02:02.640
through Gettysburg to like where Camp David is. This is
1970
02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:05.359
a place and like no one knows, like you know,
1971
02:02:05.600 --> 02:02:08.239
unless you're born there, like like no one's ever heard
1972
02:02:08.279 --> 02:02:11.640
of these places. But this is like uh where everything
1973
02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:15.479
like behind the scenes is happening, and it's happening both
1974
02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:19.520
in like a logistical real way and it's showing itself
1975
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:23.039
like in this like uh geological way and this like
1976
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:28.479
uh this ritualistic way, and we see paranormal activity all
1977
02:02:28.600 --> 02:02:31.439
over the place. You know you always but it because
1978
02:02:31.520 --> 02:02:35.800
Pennsylvania typically doesn't have like a like a sexy story
1979
02:02:36.079 --> 02:02:38.159
in like the culture which is told like you know,
1980
02:02:38.279 --> 02:02:41.399
most people don't know about it. What stories did you
1981
02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:43.399
hear about what? Tell me what do you remember anything?
1982
02:02:43.399 --> 02:02:45.199
Which those paranormal researchers.
1983
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:45.439
It was.
1984
02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:51.000
Just a couple of haunted locations and some cryptid encounters,
1985
02:02:51.520 --> 02:02:55.680
all right, crypted encounters with some dog type cryptids. I
1986
02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:58.199
think that was the main stories. But it was just
1987
02:02:58.319 --> 02:03:01.159
the the amount of I had two or three different
1988
02:03:01.560 --> 02:03:05.000
researchers on late me telling me about experiences in Pennsylvania
1989
02:03:05.039 --> 02:03:07.000
in particular. I thought it was pretty interesting.
1990
02:03:07.560 --> 02:03:09.680
There's a lot of crypti. And so think about this,
1991
02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:12.640
like think about everything which we know about like West
1992
02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.760
Virginia and Mothman and stuff like that. Like the only
1993
02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:18.439
reason we think West Virginia is different than Pennsylvania is
1994
02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:21.600
because of a line. But West Virginia and and and
1995
02:03:21.760 --> 02:03:26.520
particularly that part of Pennsylvania where Pittsburgh is the southwestern corner,
1996
02:03:26.680 --> 02:03:29.319
like you know, that's the same sort of that's the
1997
02:03:29.359 --> 02:03:31.560
whole anomaly where all the kind of like like the
1998
02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:36.600
Greenbrier is is a resort in West Virginia, which was
1999
02:03:36.960 --> 02:03:39.000
you know, it's it's public knowledge. This is where the
2000
02:03:39.079 --> 02:03:42.520
Senate would go during a nuclear attack, and like and
2001
02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:46.399
then everyone else would go up into like parts of
2002
02:03:46.439 --> 02:03:50.000
Pennsylvania and where Camp David is like that whole area,
2003
02:03:50.439 --> 02:03:54.319
and it's like it's it's there's something strange there. There's
2004
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:59.159
definitely something strange in Scranton. I'll talk about Scranton for
2005
02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:00.960
a little bit because it is kind of tangible. So
2006
02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:06.399
so Scranton is what is fascinating because it is in
2007
02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:12.079
the the the backdrop. It's been sublimably dropped in the
2008
02:04:12.159 --> 02:04:16.840
collective consciousness of your typical pop culture American in a
2009
02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:22.119
variety of ways, the most obvious being the television's show, uh,
2010
02:04:22.920 --> 02:04:26.359
The Office, but there's been a lot of other shows
2011
02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:30.079
which talk about Scranton in passing. And then you go
2012
02:04:30.159 --> 02:04:32.239
and you look at the history and like Joe Biden
2013
02:04:32.319 --> 02:04:35.600
from Scranton, and Hillary Clinton's from Scranton, and like, uh,
2014
02:04:36.159 --> 02:04:39.520
Frank Carlucci, the head of the Carlisle Group behind nine
2015
02:04:39.520 --> 02:04:41.520
to eleven, was from Scranton, and like, you know, the
2016
02:04:41.760 --> 02:04:44.279
BF Skinners from Scranton, And you begin to start to
2017
02:04:44.279 --> 02:04:50.319
see this. So Scranton, Scranton sits on top of, uh,
2018
02:04:51.560 --> 02:04:56.800
the deposit of of what I'm gonna call fire rock.
2019
02:04:57.119 --> 02:05:00.239
It's this type of rock which can which can catch
2020
02:05:00.319 --> 02:05:03.399
on fire. There's only there's only one type of rock
2021
02:05:03.720 --> 02:05:06.359
which catches on fire, like none of the other rocks
2022
02:05:06.399 --> 02:05:09.880
will catch on fire. We call it coal. But as
2023
02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:12.760
soon as I say coal, the mind goes and tells you, oh,
2024
02:05:12.840 --> 02:05:14.680
well that's what coal is, Like there's a there's a
2025
02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:16.960
so I kind of like you like, no, it's a
2026
02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:19.720
fucking fire rock. Like if you were like, yes, like it,
2027
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:22.960
like we're using it for heat sources. But if you
2028
02:05:23.079 --> 02:05:24.800
did not have a point of reference and you see
2029
02:05:24.840 --> 02:05:27.079
all of the different stones of the natural world, and
2030
02:05:27.159 --> 02:05:29.000
you'd be like, oh, this is the only rock which
2031
02:05:29.039 --> 02:05:31.800
can catch on fire, You're you're gonna come to this
2032
02:05:31.960 --> 02:05:35.119
conclusion like with curiosity, like Okay, this is special. So
2033
02:05:35.560 --> 02:05:38.600
so you've got coal found throughout the world, and we
2034
02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:40.600
know that's a fire rock, and you know it's it's
2035
02:05:40.720 --> 02:05:44.159
it's it's it's it's a carbon. It's mostly carbon. That's
2036
02:05:44.199 --> 02:05:46.800
why catches on fire. But diamonds are mostly carbon. They
2037
02:05:46.800 --> 02:05:49.119
don't catch on fire. We're told it's plant matter, but
2038
02:05:49.199 --> 02:05:50.840
we've never seen it happen. But well, I don't have
2039
02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:53.239
a better solution or answer to what it is. But
2040
02:05:53.600 --> 02:05:56.600
but that's coal and coals like a dirty sort of thing. Coals,
2041
02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.880
this dirty sort of thing, and what I mean by
2042
02:06:00.439 --> 02:06:02.159
like if you handle it like you know, you get
2043
02:06:02.199 --> 02:06:04.600
it on your clothes and like it when you burn it,
2044
02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:07.199
like it it it like theirs soot and all that
2045
02:06:07.279 --> 02:06:10.359
sort of stuff like that. But there's there's another type
2046
02:06:10.399 --> 02:06:14.000
of burning stone, another type of coal there, uh which
2047
02:06:14.199 --> 02:06:16.760
which is called anthracite. The other type of coal is
2048
02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:19.039
called bit miss I think, or I think that's what
2049
02:06:19.159 --> 02:06:22.720
the word is. And anthracite makes up a very very
2050
02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:26.319
very very very very small percentage of all of the
2051
02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:32.079
uh of known coal deposits or resources. And what makes
2052
02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:37.520
anthracite special is it ain't got no smoke. So now
2053
02:06:37.640 --> 02:06:40.439
let's go back to like our curiosity mind with no
2054
02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:43.239
preconceived notions, and you're like looking at this where this
2055
02:06:43.439 --> 02:06:46.119
this environment, you be like, okay, this is the only
2056
02:06:46.399 --> 02:06:48.840
you know that of all of the rocks, these are
2057
02:06:48.880 --> 02:06:50.960
the only rocks that catch on fire. So I know
2058
02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:53.520
there's something special about that there's fire in these rocks.
2059
02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:57.920
And then this one, this one's got no smoke. This
2060
02:06:58.079 --> 02:07:00.239
one's got no smoke. Now they'll tell you it's because
2061
02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:02.279
it's got no impurities in it. There's no impurities, so
2062
02:07:02.920 --> 02:07:06.239
it has no smoke. So nonetheless, nonetheless, so we've got
2063
02:07:06.279 --> 02:07:09.199
the rock which which catches on fire, which has no smoke,
2064
02:07:09.640 --> 02:07:12.319
and so it is a very very very small percent.
2065
02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:14.479
I think it's like between one and two percent of
2066
02:07:14.560 --> 02:07:18.840
all coal is anthracite. And of that small sub section
2067
02:07:18.960 --> 02:07:21.039
of like you know, now we're just looking at the anthracite,
2068
02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:25.560
the overwhelming majority, like ninety eight percent of it, ninety
2069
02:07:25.600 --> 02:07:28.920
eight percent, ninety nine percent of all anthracite, all of
2070
02:07:29.000 --> 02:07:33.039
this special rock is found underneath Scranton, Pennsylvania.
2071
02:07:34.359 --> 02:07:36.840
And so like like without like going into like what
2072
02:07:37.119 --> 02:07:40.079
that means, without going into like what that means, we're like, Okay,
2073
02:07:40.199 --> 02:07:42.119
that's kind of odd because like no one knows what
2074
02:07:42.239 --> 02:07:44.199
Scranton is in the middle of nowhere, but we've got
2075
02:07:44.319 --> 02:07:45.560
some weirdness going on.
2076
02:07:45.800 --> 02:07:45.960
You know.
2077
02:07:46.399 --> 02:07:48.680
Joe Biden's from there, and we got like you know,
2078
02:07:48.840 --> 02:07:51.600
we got we got Hillary Clinton from there, and we've
2079
02:07:51.640 --> 02:07:53.800
got the office, and it's kind of making fun like
2080
02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:55.479
the whole thing in the office is kind of making
2081
02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:58.520
fun of what Scranton is in that whole part of Pennsylvania.
2082
02:07:59.279 --> 02:08:02.640
So there there's two other parts of which I find
2083
02:08:02.800 --> 02:08:06.359
very interesting, which are two other like pieces of pop
2084
02:08:06.439 --> 02:08:10.560
culture which deal with Scranton, and both of them are
2085
02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:17.359
pieces of science fiction literature, and I wasn't planning on
2086
02:08:17.439 --> 02:08:19.119
telling the story, so I don't have one of the
2087
02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:22.039
books off the top of my the name of the
2088
02:08:22.119 --> 02:08:23.800
books off the top of my head. But it was
2089
02:08:23.920 --> 02:08:27.560
a Hugo Award winning book, and so that's kind of
2090
02:08:27.640 --> 02:08:30.239
like the Academy Awards of science fiction. It came out
2091
02:08:30.239 --> 02:08:32.359
in the fifties. I can't remember the author of the book.
2092
02:08:32.399 --> 02:08:35.079
I think it was called Like City something or other,
2093
02:08:35.359 --> 02:08:39.119
but the premise of the book was that these cities
2094
02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:41.840
were able to, like an entire city could take off
2095
02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:44.439
from Earth and go into outer space. And the city
2096
02:08:44.520 --> 02:08:47.199
of the in that book was Scranton. So like we've
2097
02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:50.199
got this like connection like in fifties science fiction of
2098
02:08:50.319 --> 02:08:53.800
Scranton being this kind of like otherworldly sort of of
2099
02:08:54.239 --> 02:08:58.159
of location. And then we have we have Philip K.
2100
02:08:58.399 --> 02:09:01.920
Dick's Man in the High Cap, which also won a
2101
02:09:02.119 --> 02:09:06.159
Hugo Award. Now I'm gonna be honest here, and I'm
2102
02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:09.680
a little bit uncertain with this. I've not read the book,
2103
02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:12.840
but I have seen the television show, and so they
2104
02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:15.079
get linked. And this is part of like the conscious
2105
02:09:15.199 --> 02:09:18.199
like you know how how the dream of the collective consciousness.
2106
02:09:18.239 --> 02:09:20.399
So I'm gonna say that this is in the TV
2107
02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:22.920
show for certain, and I can't say if this is
2108
02:09:22.960 --> 02:09:25.600
in the book for certain, because sometimes they don't line up.
2109
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.039
But this is what they did in the TV show
2110
02:09:28.119 --> 02:09:32.000
The Man in the High Castle. A key, key location
2111
02:09:32.279 --> 02:09:37.079
is Scranton, Pennsylvania. And the reason why is Scranton, Pennsylvania
2112
02:09:37.560 --> 02:09:41.880
is where the Nazis have found an anomaly in the
2113
02:09:41.960 --> 02:09:45.119
electromagnetic field in Earth, and they have to go deep
2114
02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:48.199
into the Earth where this deposit is and then they
2115
02:09:48.239 --> 02:09:51.239
are able to go to different dimensions like that is
2116
02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:55.720
that is the the the the part of their of
2117
02:09:55.880 --> 02:09:59.640
this of of their their their storyline. So we've got
2118
02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:01.680
like all of these different sort of things like and
2119
02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:04.399
we're talking this Pennsylvania and so like it brings me
2120
02:10:04.520 --> 02:10:06.319
back this question. I'm like, you know, I don't know.
2121
02:10:06.359 --> 02:10:08.760
I'm not saying like you're gonna go to another dimension
2122
02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:11.279
with with a piece of anthracite. I'm also not saying
2123
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you're not gonna go to another divent with the piece
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of anthracite. I'm just saying I don't know. But what
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02:10:16.039 --> 02:10:21.479
I do think is interesting is that there are all
2126
02:10:21.600 --> 02:10:26.720
of these indications of there being something significant in this location. Uh,
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02:10:26.880 --> 02:10:28.600
and I share this story for two reasons when we
2128
02:10:28.680 --> 02:10:32.880
were talking about weird Pennsylvania. But then secondly, Secondly, is
2129
02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:36.720
one of the things which I think is happening right
2130
02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:40.920
now and I'm seeing it from feedback from my work,
2131
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is people are beginning to look at their own backyard,
2132
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their own cities, their own like their own histories, with
2133
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new eyes, and they're beginning to see like a new
2134
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way of understanding reality. And so that if anything is
2135
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is yes, this Grant story maybe is kind of fun
2136
02:10:58.760 --> 02:11:02.039
and exciting, but it's mostly to be like I Scranting
2137
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ain't the only place, Like you know, what's unique in
2138
02:11:04.439 --> 02:11:08.520
your backyard, what unique geology is found there, what is
2139
02:11:08.760 --> 02:11:12.600
special about that on that baseline reality, and then seeing
2140
02:11:12.640 --> 02:11:16.199
how that ties into like history or military complexes or
2141
02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:18.680
stuff like that, and then beginning to like have your
2142
02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.359
own sort of connection on a deeper level. Like I'm
2143
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:25.119
finding that very exciting. So so when we're talking about
2144
02:11:25.159 --> 02:11:29.159
the collective, like that's something which I personally am wanting
2145
02:11:29.239 --> 02:11:33.760
to become encouraged more and maybe hoping to inspire that
2146
02:11:34.239 --> 02:11:37.039
that movement to happen more. That's you know, some of
2147
02:11:37.079 --> 02:11:40.279
the work, which I'm doing with ros Ben and Emily Moyer,
2148
02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:44.920
is to like to introduce like more new ways of
2149
02:11:45.039 --> 02:11:45.640
seeing things.
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02:11:47.039 --> 02:11:52.560
That's great because there is there's a major attempted divide
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02:11:53.319 --> 02:11:56.600
for people right now. There's the of course, the masks
2152
02:11:56.880 --> 02:12:01.319
and No Mask camp. You have the vax and Novak's camp,
2153
02:12:02.159 --> 02:12:06.039
all these attempts to divide people and get them thinking
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02:12:06.119 --> 02:12:10.159
on different wavelengths. When I think, you know, behind the scenes,
2155
02:12:10.239 --> 02:12:13.319
we have more people kind of looking at things beyond
2156
02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:16.239
that and coming together when they're trying to hide the
2157
02:12:16.319 --> 02:12:18.520
fact that that's happening, I don't know, what do you think.
2158
02:12:18.560 --> 02:12:20.720
Do you think that we're going to see more people
2159
02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:25.880
coming together and looking past this division tactics in the future.
2160
02:12:25.960 --> 02:12:30.880
Yes, I mean so, I so. I mean this is
2161
02:12:30.920 --> 02:12:32.560
when people start talking about like, you know, we need
2162
02:12:32.640 --> 02:12:35.439
three percent or five percent, like you know, I do
2163
02:12:35.600 --> 02:12:39.079
think you know, whether it's it's that or more so
2164
02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:43.840
just the fact that so much of other life has
2165
02:12:44.039 --> 02:12:50.039
gone away and people are looking for at least something novel, uh,
2166
02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:53.640
you know, something new to do or or you know,
2167
02:12:53.880 --> 02:12:59.920
people are becoming more more curious and aware of their surrounding. Yeah,
2168
02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:03.319
Like I'm seeing that happen, like you know, just in
2169
02:13:03.479 --> 02:13:07.279
terms of community, these aren't big numbers, but like you know,
2170
02:13:07.399 --> 02:13:10.520
communication I have with people people here here, hear me
2171
02:13:10.640 --> 02:13:12.680
on a show, and I get emails all the time,
2172
02:13:12.760 --> 02:13:14.560
which is like, hey, I started looking at my own
2173
02:13:14.640 --> 02:13:17.159
back backyard this way. When I say my backyard, like
2174
02:13:17.239 --> 02:13:21.039
I mean that literally and figuratively, and I found this,
2175
02:13:21.319 --> 02:13:23.319
this and this, and like I feel connected to that
2176
02:13:23.640 --> 02:13:26.399
and and yeah, I'm seeing that, and I think that
2177
02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:29.159
that person who's doing that, they're sharing that with me
2178
02:13:29.800 --> 02:13:32.520
because they know that that like I probably get it,
2179
02:13:32.920 --> 02:13:36.039
but then they're probably sharing it with people in their community,
2180
02:13:36.159 --> 02:13:38.479
like you know, their friends, their family, and like you know,
2181
02:13:38.560 --> 02:13:41.760
half of them two years ago, their family would have
2182
02:13:41.800 --> 02:13:44.079
thought they were crazy. But right now, there's gonna be
2183
02:13:44.079 --> 02:13:45.720
a lot there's gonna be more people who are going
2184
02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:48.920
to be interested in that than than than before. So
2185
02:13:49.520 --> 02:13:52.039
I think it's just it's a it's a it's a
2186
02:13:52.159 --> 02:13:55.199
logical conclusion that that that people are going to begin
2187
02:13:55.279 --> 02:13:58.399
to look at things differently. I mean obviously you're seeing
2188
02:13:58.479 --> 02:14:03.359
that too, Like, uh, as your as your influences, your
2189
02:14:03.560 --> 02:14:07.239
reach with your platform has increased, like you know, you
2190
02:14:07.359 --> 02:14:09.359
go back ten years ago when you think about like
2191
02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:12.840
you know, how you were received and like how those
2192
02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:15.800
numbers Like yeah, like I think we're seeing it all around.
2193
02:14:16.079 --> 02:14:18.279
I think they're there. You know, they said it, they've
2194
02:14:18.279 --> 02:14:20.159
been saying that. I remember, like ten years ago, they
2195
02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:22.319
to talk about that, like humanity is splitting. They're gonna
2196
02:14:22.319 --> 02:14:24.840
be two types of humans. And they always positioned it
2197
02:14:25.039 --> 02:14:28.920
like those the superhuman who takes the chip, but like
2198
02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:31.560
you know, maybe the other type of the Maybe that
2199
02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:34.079
might be true, but it's more so like the other
2200
02:14:34.199 --> 02:14:35.800
type of human, the one which you and I are
2201
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:39.239
describing right now, who's beginning to see things differently. Like
2202
02:14:39.600 --> 02:14:43.079
that's what I think is, That's that's the group I'm interested.
2203
02:14:42.720 --> 02:14:47.039
In, definitely, the ones that are naturally kind of evolving, uh,
2204
02:14:47.520 --> 02:14:49.800
to see things in a new way and maybe get
2205
02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:53.039
back some of our hidden abilities that humans used to
2206
02:14:53.119 --> 02:14:56.159
have in the past, the really exciting times.
2207
02:14:56.439 --> 02:14:58.159
I would say, even more so, to move off of,
2208
02:14:58.600 --> 02:15:01.800
to move off of the system, and the system, the
2209
02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:06.479
system only is held in place by consciousness. Like it's
2210
02:15:06.680 --> 02:15:10.760
it's an idea. It's just an idea. It's a a
2211
02:15:11.079 --> 02:15:15.079
mass greed upon idea. It's a mass greed upon ideas.
2212
02:15:15.079 --> 02:15:17.760
So that's why like it kind of like it works,
2213
02:15:18.359 --> 02:15:23.359
but it's just an idea. And what we see in
2214
02:15:23.439 --> 02:15:27.960
the natural world is is that when when the toxin
2215
02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:33.000
stop going into the baseline reality, it immediately begins to
2216
02:15:34.079 --> 02:15:37.920
self regulate or self heal. You know, they told us
2217
02:15:38.000 --> 02:15:42.159
that right with the like when Wuhan went into lockdown,
2218
02:15:42.279 --> 02:15:46.239
the sky's cleared up in a week, and and Chuernobyl
2219
02:15:46.479 --> 02:15:49.159
we've seen fauna which we haven't seen for ten thousand
2220
02:15:49.239 --> 02:15:51.880
years because no one's allowed into it. And we know
2221
02:15:51.960 --> 02:15:57.079
that within the human body, we know that when you
2222
02:15:57.239 --> 02:16:03.600
go sixteen hours without digest testing food, meaning that the
2223
02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:06.680
digestive system, like the body doesn't have to work. That's
2224
02:16:06.840 --> 02:16:08.800
like why they always want you to eat, so that
2225
02:16:09.079 --> 02:16:12.439
the body never stops working, like it suddenly starts doing
2226
02:16:12.560 --> 02:16:13.399
something different.
2227
02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:14.000
Uh.
2228
02:16:14.680 --> 02:16:19.880
Our entire culture is toxic uh to consciousness. And what
2229
02:16:19.960 --> 02:16:22.960
I mean by consciousness is it's how we understand reality
2230
02:16:23.079 --> 02:16:26.000
that's on the most basic level. And so as we
2231
02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:29.840
begin to see things differently, and as we begin to
2232
02:16:30.439 --> 02:16:37.120
to no longer have our consciousness linked into this toxic program. Uh.
2233
02:16:38.479 --> 02:16:42.040
I think that all of those those those things, those
2234
02:16:42.440 --> 02:16:45.920
you know, quote unquote magical abilities like it's not that
2235
02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:48.760
we discover, it's like there they just happen.
2236
02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:50.200
You know.
2237
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:54.520
The connection we have with with everything I think is changed.
2238
02:16:54.600 --> 02:17:00.280
Like that's my that's the the I don't want to
2239
02:17:00.280 --> 02:17:02.920
say like it's an expectation, like because that's part of
2240
02:17:02.959 --> 02:17:04.920
the problem, because you will because I want you want
2241
02:17:04.959 --> 02:17:09.959
to hold a a a an openness but to how
2242
02:17:10.040 --> 02:17:12.840
it's gonna unfold. But but but yeah, there is an
2243
02:17:12.879 --> 02:17:16.399
expectation that, yeah, things are gonna unfold in that way.
2244
02:17:17.319 --> 02:17:20.200
Yeah, we live in such a fascinating time. I'm always
2245
02:17:20.280 --> 02:17:23.280
interested to see what's coming around the next corner. Michael,
2246
02:17:23.280 --> 02:17:25.520
I want to thank you again for joining us tonight.
2247
02:17:25.920 --> 02:17:28.920
Another excellent conversation, and you know, I'd love to have
2248
02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:31.559
you keep having you on as things develop and we
2249
02:17:31.719 --> 02:17:34.319
keep going along in this crazy sci fi story that
2250
02:17:34.360 --> 02:17:34.600
we're in.
2251
02:17:35.319 --> 02:17:38.559
Fantastic. This was a lot of fun, uh, and I'm
2252
02:17:38.639 --> 02:17:41.000
happy to come back on this time. Let's not wait
2253
02:17:41.040 --> 02:17:43.440
a year, Let's do another six months. We'll see what happens,
2254
02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:45.639
but that'll feel like a decade. I guarantee it. We'll
2255
02:17:45.680 --> 02:17:46.920
talk about at the end of your celler.
2256
02:17:47.360 --> 02:17:50.120
Yeah, definitely. So all right, Michael, Well, thanks again for
2257
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coming on.
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We'll talk again soon and until next time, everyone, have
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