FIVEAA Breakfast with Will & Stacey - 2 November 2026

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Speaker 1: Adelaide's 5AA, radio that still talks to you.
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Speaker 1: Live from Hindmarsh Square, it's 5AA Breakfast. Bill Goodings with Stacey Lee.
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Speaker 3: Not after six. Good morning to you. Welcome to Monday on 5AA Breakfast, the 2nd of November. November. Year is fast running out. Crikey, the rain's not running out. That was extraordinary yesterday. What a deluge. Did your place get soaked?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had friends over to go in the pool.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no. You didn't need the pool.
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Speaker 4: So I think I can be blamed for the rain.
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Speaker 3: Did you still go in the pool?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 6: Ben did.
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Speaker 4: My husband did.
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Speaker 3: Is inviting people over to go in the pool the equivalent of washing your car?
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Speaker 4: I think so.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. The rain, my goodness, it was remarkable. Coming up on the program this morning, it's all systems go for year 12s and exam season this week. Is this the peak week of stress in Australia? So you've got Reserve Bank meeting tomorrow. It's a shortened week because of Melbourne Cup Day and nobody works. Suddenly, everyone's realised it's November. Christmas shopping around the corner. Year 12 exams starting proper today. I know there were some external ones that have already happened, but the year 12 exams start proper today. Big debate this morning. I heard the boys talking about it a short time ago about the relevance of exams in this day and age. Do we still need them? We'll put that to Mitcham Girls High School Deputy Principal Rose Forster after 6.30 this morning. Height restrictions are going to be canned in the area around Hindmarsh. 20-storey towers... We haven't seen this much in South Australia yet.
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 3: Is this environment going to– is everyone lining up to build apartments right now? I'm not sure. We'll talk about it after 7 o'clock today. Tim Jenner will be on the program. We're going to talk about– this is a terrific initiative. The Hutt Street Centre announced their first Women's and Children's Wellbeing Centre. It's terrific in the sense that it's great they're doing it. It's horrific that they have to do it. They're just seeing enough demand. They have to do it. And also, Bronte Manuel from Tube and Toop, we will talk real estate outside of the rain-affected pool party. How was the weekend, Stace?
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Speaker 8: Good.
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Speaker 9: Apart from that, nice and chill. Lots of family time. We did catch up with friends, just not in the pool, just indoors.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You think at the start of November, you think you're in safe territory.
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Speaker 8: Anyway. Anyway.
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Speaker 4: How was your weekend?
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Speaker 3: It was a very busy weekend. We had a birthday party on Saturday morning.
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Speaker 11: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And we had the first time I've been home for Halloween on Saturday night because usually it's been during the week. And my wife's taken Rosie out and they've done the little thing and I've never been part of it. And over the weekend, I had this really interesting chat with someone who runs a part of a big sporting club. runs the junior programs right through to the seniors. It's a fascinating chat with them talking about the degree. This person's seen a lot of generations, the years of people go through. Okay. So this is not sort of, this is not short-term confirmation bias and said that it's really hard these days promoting really talented younger people into senior sides like they used to when you were, you know, if you're really talented, 13, 14, 15, you're playing with 30 year olds in an open grade. If you're really talented because of the communication side of it, Because they said they seem, and the person was being totally polite, quite ill-equipped to talk with older people or other people. They struggle to have frank feedback. When you get to that level, you're talking elite sporting level, you get to have some tough conversations. And you need to be able to have those with your teammates. But beyond that, there's this real generational divide, even between people who are early 30s and those who are in their teens. in a way that this person who's seen it all before said it's different now, and it goes to the skills that a lot of the younger people have on face-to-face communication. They wondered, like I did, is it a phones and digital thing?
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Speaker 12: Yep.
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Speaker 3: Most of your socialisation's happening with this sort of equipment in between you, so suddenly you're in this world with people who you've even got less in common with, and it's really hard.
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Speaker 9: If you wanted to, you could never have a face-to-face conversation with someone, or even a phone conversation.
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Speaker 4: Younger generations.
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Speaker 9: We prefer to text over having a phone conversation, and sometimes that phone conversation can be all the difference.
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Speaker 4: So much language is lost via text.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: But yes, anyway, continue.
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Speaker 3: So the reason I tell you that long and uninteresting little tidbit, because I think it's something we all suspected, because Halloween on Saturday, the first time I walked with my daughter and did it, and I've always been a sceptic. Dave and I have argued about this on air. He's always said it's a good thing. I've always said, I just don't like the degree to which we're importing this obviously American thing.
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Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: He always argues it's from Mexico, whatever.
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Speaker 4: As is the burrito.
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Speaker 3: I did it on Saturday night and had that conversation ringing in my ears. And it occurred to me that it actually might be the antidote to what ails us in a way that I'd never really grasped before.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Because there's something that feels extraordinary about taking your child, and every family does this. And I'd never done it. So it's me seeing all this for the first time. You go up to the house that clearly you've got a party going on or the decorations are up. And you say, you have to go up. You knock on the door. You introduce yourself. You say, happy Halloween or good evening. And you say, thank you at the end and please. And the whole thing is human interaction. You're bumping into other kids in the street. They're chatting.
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Speaker 8: What are you?
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Speaker 3: Who are you dressed up as?
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Speaker 13: Oh, I love.
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Speaker 3: That's my favorite. So on. It's all human interaction. You're meeting neighbors and knocking on doors in your street in a really organic way. that I know everyone wishes it was like it was.
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Speaker 12: It ain't.
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Speaker 3: But this forces it to feel that way a little bit. And as I was walking around, my skepticism started to melt away of the whole thing. And I thought, yes, it's important. Okay? It's not homegrown. It's not our thing. But it's actually a salve for so many things that are problems at the moment. This crash course in how to deal with people and go chat with people face-to-face and also meeting your neighbors and having a community event. It was a real eye-opener. So I thought we'd start things off this morning. I was wrong on Halloween. I've changed my tune on it.
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Speaker 10: You were wrong.
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Speaker 3: I was wrong.
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Speaker 4: You've done a total, not U-turn.
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Speaker 8: A 180?
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Speaker 3: No, it is a U-turn. A U-turn, yeah, yeah, not a backflip.
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Speaker 4: Not a backflip, it's a U-turn.
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Speaker 3: That's your favourite one. 8223 0000, what's something you've changed your mind on over the course of your life? Something you've changed your mind on. You don't necessarily, maybe you were wrong, or maybe you've got new evidence and it changed your opinion. You can text us too, 04808 1395. When is the last time you thought, I was wrong about that? Give us a call. I'd love to hear other people who've had sort of, midlife revelations about things they previously felt very strongly about.
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Speaker 9: I like this as well because it is so rare to hear someone say, I got it wrong or I've changed my mind because I think that the social media world we live in makes everyone think they are right because they get that confirmation bias from their own little echo chambers telling them they are correct with everything.
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Speaker 4: So it's nice. It's refreshing to hear you say, you know what, I've changed my mind.
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Speaker 8: I have.
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Speaker 3: I was wrong. I was wrong. Or as Patty says, back up the truck. We want you to back up the truck. What's something you've changed your opinion about? It might have been now 20 years ago or whenever. I'd love to know when it was. Am I just coming to a point in my life now where I'm going to start realising all the beliefs I had as a young person are totally stupid? Maybe.
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Speaker 9: I think you get to different stages of your life and you realise what everyone else was talking about.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So first it's Halloween. We've changed Will's mind on Halloween.
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Speaker 10: Next, the pandas?
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Speaker 3: No, come on. Some things. I've got to have some... If you stand for nothing, you know what I mean? Peter in Sky says, took my daughter out and friend for Halloween. We had a lovely time. Met some great, generous people. Yeah, that's nice. Makes you feel, it's just everyone's happy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It was a Saturday night, so it was party central.
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Speaker 9: I did see, however, a lot of videos posted on Facebook from people saying, if this is your kid, please send them back. Because there were some children, older children, I'd say teenagers, who were unaccompanied and would just tip the entire bucket of lollies into their bag.
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Speaker 4: I think that happened a bit.
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Speaker 3: There's some dodgy behaviour that goes on.
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Speaker 9: And I think that's also part of being a teenager, just taking a massive handful of lollies when you know you're not meant to.
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Speaker 3: There is. There is a divide between the really little kids. So Rosie's just turned four, five and six, and then there's 13, 14.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Got their pillowcase and they're filling it with lollies. Pillowcase. Kevin, Glenn Osmond, good morning.
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Speaker 11: Good morning.
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Speaker 13: Hey, Will and Stacey.
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Speaker 14: Will, that was one of the best overviews of Halloween, contemporary Halloween I've ever heard.
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Speaker 11: Thanks, mate.
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Speaker 14: Thanks for putting things in perspective.
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Speaker 3: Good on you, Kev. Thank you, mate. What a nice call. Appreciate it. Thank you. I should have been always wrong more often. This person says, I thought Albo could make a good PM. How wrong I wasn't. I'm happy to admit it.
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Speaker 4: And Andrew says, I think Will's trying to say he's changed his position.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. That's the sort of parliamentary language, isn't it?
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Speaker 15: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I've changed my position. I have changed my position. 8223 0000. Text us on 04808 1395. Let's use that turn of phrase. When have you changed your position? Soften it a little bit. You're not necessarily, you weren't wrong.
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Speaker 4: You don't need to admit wrong.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 16: No.
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Speaker 3: You've changed your position over the course of your life. Could be going back a long, long time.
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Speaker 9: Daniel, I used to think the Crows were a good team. All I wanted was one more premiership before I die.
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Speaker 8: I was wrong.
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Speaker 3: Daniel, how old are you? Come on. There's still time. Annuals age is a big variable in how sad that text is.
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Speaker 4: How sad if he's 33.
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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to take a break. Let us know when you were wrong.
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Speaker 2: Knockdown Bill 2 with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on. Keep the other as an investment. Metro Homes, they do it all for you.
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Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 23 minutes after 6. Good morning to all those watching along as well on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. Thanks to Dilmar Tea. We have a Dilmar Tea pack that we can give away a little bit later. Cherish every morning with your daily Dilmar Tea. Enjoy the new English breakfast or Paradise breakfast. Dilmar, making the world a better tea.
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Speaker 4: Paradise breakfast?
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Speaker 3: What's your go-to tea?
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Speaker 4: That sounds delicious. They have a French Earl Grey.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I've had that one because Earl Grey is my go-to.
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Speaker 8: I love Earl Grey.
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Speaker 3: I always get mocked. I get mocked for Earl Grey.
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Speaker 8: Why?
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Speaker 3: People seem to think it's funny.
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Speaker 1: I don't get it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paddy just gave a reaction like, yeah, you deserve it.
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Speaker 4: Or is it a bit girly?
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Speaker 3: I think.
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Speaker 4: Why are you laughing at Will?
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Speaker 10: English breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Paddy says English breakfast. These are like wearing a Celtic top. I mean, you know, seriously. They lost overnight.
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Speaker 8: All right.
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Speaker 3: Mike in O'Sullivan Beach. What's something you've changed your opinion on, Mike? My marriage. Oh, Mike. Hang on. Did you start thinking it was a bad idea and it came good or was it the other way around?
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Speaker 11: Other way around.
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Speaker 17: Oh, dear.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. Sorry to hear it. Peter, good morning.
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Speaker 13: Good morning, everyone.
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Speaker 3: Hit us with your, what did you do with your U-turn on, Peter?
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Speaker 15: AI, I think.
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Speaker 3: Ah, good one. So did you originally think no big deal, or did you originally think it was going to be bigger than it currently is?
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Speaker 16: I just didn't buy into it to start with.
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Speaker 15: I thought, oh, just another fad, whatever.
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Speaker 13: But, you know, we were in the U.S. in May, and we used it every day to help us plan our daily.
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Speaker 16: Activities and trips in Washington State, and I'm using it for job applications.
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Speaker 18: It's just incredible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing. Don't worry about getting that tech prediction wrong, Peter. I once said no one wants an iPhone.
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Speaker 8: 2007.
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Speaker 3: We'll never let you live that one down. Frank at Birkenhead, good morning.
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Speaker 15: Good morning, Will and Stace.
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Speaker 12: You know, Will, I was like you. I had second thoughts about Halloween. It's an American holiday.
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Speaker 15: What a waste of time and money.
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Speaker 12: But no, you know, us adults get out of a night. We can do anything. We can go out any time. But how often do you see kids being happy, interacting, mixing with other kids of different ages, apart from, you know, after Christmas, with opening presents and that. I think it's good that they're doing harmless things and they're doing no harm and they're all happy when they could be getting up the mischief.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, exactly right. Now, well said, Frank. I couldn't agree more with you. It went through the exact same process.
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Speaker 19: Yep, yep.
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Speaker 9: Getting some great text messages. This person says, Beautifully said, Will. I totally agree and have had exactly the same thoughts this year. We all need to see and feel more joy in such difficult times.
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Speaker 3: It's nice to see people in the streets.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it is.
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Speaker 3: Just people saying hi to each other and having a party and just having a conversation.
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Speaker 9: There were some streets you can't drive down during Halloween because it's so busy.
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Speaker 3: Trick for young players, which we didn't realise, weeknight Halloween starts much later than weekend Halloween.
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Speaker 4: Really?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So you can start a bit earlier.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, people started a lot earlier on the Saturdays.
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Speaker 20: Good.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And if nothing else- Probably more kid-friendly.
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Speaker 9: Kids get so much sugar and excitement on the Saturday night that we had friends who yesterday, all the kids wanted a nap, even though they're way past nap age.
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Speaker 4: They're all school age.
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Speaker 3: Sunday was a big sugar hangover day.
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Speaker 4: Everyone had the crash and everyone got a rest.
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Speaker 3: Weather today, 19 degrees at the moment. It's warmer than it feels like it should be, just to look outside. Heading for a top today of 24. The rains should be largely done with. For the week ahead, sunny and 23 tomorrow. We'll get a little drizzle on Wednesday, up to 21 the max. Thursday, 21, no rain. Friday, mostly clear. We might get just a sprinkle in 23. 21 on Saturday, 24 on Sunday. So low 20s, fairly stable throughout the week. Not a lot of rain, but it's not exactly pool weather either. Tom Wren has wandered into the 5AA Breakfast Studio. Agostino Mitsubishi's demo clearance is on now. Save on the Pajero Sport, ASX Triton. and Outlander, Nailsworth, and Mawson Lakes. We're talking this morning about things we've regretted. We're not regretting things, but positions we've held that we were wrong about, Rennie. We're talking about U-turns that we've done, backing up the truck in Paddy's parlance. Tom Wren is never wrong. He's just early. You were scathing of the Aussies' choice in the cricket with regard to the toss. You came in and said, I might have got that one wrong. You went wrong, T-Wren. You were not wrong. Vindication.
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Speaker 21: I'm not often right, Will, but it's one time where you're disappointed that you're right.
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Speaker 10: They headline our losers, don't they? That was poor.
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Speaker 21: And I think now the only positive, Will and Stacey, is it might precipitate some change.
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Speaker 3: It has to.
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Speaker 21: Marta Slabashane's gone. He's played his last Test match, at least for the short term. 49 innings without a Test 100.
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Speaker 10: He's gone. Has to go. But what do they do now?
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Speaker 21: The broader question, Nathan Lyon. Do they bring in Rocky Uccelli from WA, who's a good young spinner.
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Speaker 3: Todd Murphy?
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Speaker 21: What do they do with– Steve Smith will come back, but what do they do with Cameron Green? What do they do with Josh Inglis? I think he'll probably play Cooper Connolly. Huge decisions now. This could be a sweeping change, or do they just say, no, we'll stick with it, we'll hold the faith? The public outcry has been fairly fierce. But it's just how much depth is there underneath to come through.
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Speaker 3: As you started talking, Reddy, I suddenly thought to myself, this is going to be a depressing bunch of losers this weekend, isn't it? Yeah. Is it just South Australian sport? Yep.
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Speaker 21: So there was the cricket, the National Martyrs Lab of Shane Aussie Cricket, SA cricket, chasing 422.
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Speaker 10: Looked so good after day three.
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Speaker 21: They were one for 182 and then just crumbled, unfortunately, on day four. So that's back-to-back losses. And then yesterday, I'm sure you both would have seen it, the Adelaide 36ers celebrating 40 years. Such a great win on Friday night against New Zealand. I was so excited about that.
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Speaker 10: Here we go.
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Speaker 21: But yesterday, a big step back at home against Brisbane, who were poor themselves on Friday.
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Speaker 10: So they were beaten. That was a bad one. Adelaide United 4-0 away from home.
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Speaker 3: Perth glory as well.
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Speaker 10: That was horrific.
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Speaker 3: It could be a long season. It's going to be a long year for Adelaide United.
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Speaker 10: Totally.
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Speaker 21: Crows W, they lost as well. A couple of quick winners in amongst my final couple of losers. Port W and Arsenal. Arsenal beat Liverpool overnight. They're back on top of the Premier League. They're going to be hard to stop.
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Speaker 3: Luke Nolan.
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Speaker 21: I hate bashing jockeys because they're very brave for doing what they do. But that ride on She's Alibi, that's one of the worst I've seen. He had the best horse.
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Speaker 10: By five lengths.
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Speaker 3: What did he do for those of us who didn't see it, Rennie?
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Speaker 10: So he got caught.
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Speaker 21: Now, it's not a speed horse, which means it's not one of those that leads out in front. But when you've got the best horse by some.
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Speaker 3: Margin- Oh, he got squeezed against the rail, didn't he?
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Speaker 21: Just don't get in a position where you can get caught. So tried to come in on the inside. The horse is in front, closed. Okay, I'll go back onto the outside truck.
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Speaker 10: That closed. Then he's going up horse. By the time he got out, she's all over.
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Speaker 8: Oh, dear.
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Speaker 10: And punters around the country got crucified, whereas the bookies were cleaning up. So a bad day for the punters, a good day.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of, we had a prediction last week. Cold shower. The horse. Do we know how that raced.
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Speaker 3: On the weekend? We're going to get to it a little bit later.
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Speaker 21: And one final other loser, a bit outside the sports sphere, Anthony LaPaglia. I'm sure you've spoken about him, but his comments about our great city.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: When was he last here?
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Speaker 10: Well, he's been performing that play.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he's been doing that play. Yeah.
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Speaker 22: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: The salesman.
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Speaker 4: I saw that play.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You want to talk about boring?
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Speaker 3: Oh, Death of a Salesman's a tough one. It's one for the theatrical purists.
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Speaker 4: It's an unpopular opinion. A lot of people in there liked it.
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Speaker 3: I took my wife to see that. She said, you are never recommending a play again. It wasn't that one. It wasn't this performance. It was Death of a Salesman.
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Speaker 21: I'm glad to hear your converts on Halloween because I'm the same. My boys are a little bit older than your kids at the moment, but I was a bit slow to it. But now, just seeing the joy that the kids get out of it and the fact they get out and they walk around and, They talk to people that they don't normally talk to. And I know there's some lollies going back and forth, but I think it engenders a really good community spirit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. It's a great night. Good stuff.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, guys.
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Speaker 8: 20 minutes to seven.
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Speaker 3: Good shout here at the Adelaide Lightning one.
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Speaker 10: Oh, there we go.
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Speaker 4: Some good news.
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Speaker 3: So there you go. We wanted some good news. We said it was just about a South Australian sporting team wipeout on the weekend with Tom Wren's Winners and Losers segment that always gets us started on a Monday morning. Keep those texts coming through, 0408 08 13 95. You can call us on 8223 0000. What we'd like you to do now, though, is furnish us with the best piece of advice you've ever received or if you've got some good advice for our young people.
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Speaker 18: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 3: Give us a call, because it's exam season now. This is it. It starts today. Today, we've got the two versions of maths, and they always change the name. Once you're about two years removed from being in Year 12, it all loses meaning for you. But good luck to everyone doing mathematical methods and general mathematics today. They are two 130-minute exams. I wonder if anyone does both. You probably can't do both, can you?
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Speaker 4: It's such a long time.
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Speaker 3: Two hours. Two hours and 10 minutes. of gruelling examination. Some people say maybe the exam has come to the end of its natural life. We'll talk about that in a moment, but we'd love your best advice for the young people that are going through the Year 12 exams right now. What advice would you give them? What was the best advice you ever received? We'd love to compile a bit of an advice compendium for our Year 12s. 8223 0000, text us on 04808 1395. Rose Forster is the Deputy Principal at the Mitcham Girls High School and joins us now. Rose Forster, good morning to you.
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Speaker 23: Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: In 2026, what's the advice given to Year 12s going into exams, Rose?
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Speaker 13: Oh, goodness.
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Speaker 23: Look, I guess leading up to the exam period, so over the last few weeks, we've been trying to encourage them to get as much sleep as possible, which is obviously easier said than done when they're obviously quite nervous around the anticipation of their exam starting. In the actual, I guess, logistical sense of exams, I guess it's probably things we've always known about answering the questions that you feel really confident with first and then going back to do the ones that you feel less confident in.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. So how long is the next period for them? How long do exams go for?
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Speaker 23: So they go for the next two weeks. Some exams have already started. So for some students doing languages, which at our school it's French, they've already had oral exams online already. And also all our nationally assessed languages have kind of kicked off in the last couple of weeks as well, which are a bit more sporadic. But yeah, officially today is the first day and this goes for two weeks now.
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Speaker 9: And how much of the end of year mark is made up by these exams?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, so for the exams now, every exam is worth 30% of the grade and 70% is school assessment. So that would be assignments and in-school tests for particular subjects. Or if it's something quite art, it's your folios and your piece of art. So, yeah, only 30% these days.
00:21:41
Speaker 3: Rose, I'm not sure if you've seen comments this morning in the paper from the Australian Science and Mathematics School principal, Kylie Eggers, who says.
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Speaker 3: She hopes that exams become obsolete and go the way of the DOTO and poses the question, do they actually test student learning or are they just a measure of retention at a particular point in time? What's your view on the utility of the exam?
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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, I couldn't agree more. It tests, I guess, knowledge and recall from a point in time. I don't think a 30% examination actually can test or test. reflects the knowledge and the skills that a young person may have. And that's obviously one test in one time, not considering all the other things that might be going on for that young person in that period of time. So, yeah, I couldn't agree more with Kylie in regards to, yeah, a point where it may become obsolete. There's not many, I think, careers out there that require things that you can't access online in a in a quick way. I mean, I'm sure we've all been to the doctor where they've started Googling things as well. So, look, I don't think it's a true reflection of what happens in, I guess, as we want to call it, the real world, so post-school.
00:22:49
Speaker 3: Is then the reason we're still doing it because we haven't quite just come up with what the new better.
00:22:55
Speaker 23: Way of doing it is? Yes, certainly, and I think we're moving towards finding some solutions around that, but I don't think we have something that I guess can uphold the integrity of students, teachers, and the whole testing system, I guess. But definitely moving away, I think, from my knowledge of probably where my parents were in high school is all 100% examination to when I was at school, 50%. So you can slowly see that things are changing and we're finding more ways of assessing what a student can know.
00:23:24
Speaker 4: What's the impact of AI on this year's exams?
00:23:28
Speaker 9: Or is it still too new for the current year 12s to have had a significant impact on the way they've done schooling in the recent years?
00:23:36
Speaker 23: I think it certainly has impacted what happens in schools for young people, but certainly not the examinations. I guess for two reasons. One, in the actual exam room, if it's an online exam, which lots have moved to, they're in a locked-down browser. You can't access anything else. They're not allowed to go in with a phone, a smartwatch, AirPods, anything like that. So the actual accessing of technology is absolutely limited to AI. I would say it's probably impacted in the sense of their studying habits. and how they might use AI to study for examinations and help them, I guess, summarise key information, but certainly not in the actual space of the exam.
00:24:20
Speaker 3: Is it stressful for teachers, Rose, when you get to this part of the time of the year as well?
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Speaker 22: Certainly, yes.
00:24:25
Speaker 23: Look, teachers can feel the stress just as much as the students. You know, they've guided these students, some of them for two years starting from year 11, if they're following them through with, for example, maths methods. And they may have been, you know, had these young people in front of them now for two years and they care as deeply as I think, you know, the families do and the student does themselves. They want them to do well and they often see the hard work and the real grit that students put into learning for these exams and studying. So they certainly feel, I guess, a level of responsibility as to how well the student goes.
00:24:58
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:24:59
Speaker 3: Fascinating chat, Rose. That was great. Thank you so much for that. Rose Forster, the Deputy Principal at the Mitcham Girls High School, on the exam period that starts officially today. Jeanette's called in with some advice for our young Year 12s. Jeanette, good morning to you.
00:25:13
Speaker 16: Oh, hello.
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Speaker 19: My mother-in-law, a very smart woman, she always used to say that worry was interest paid on trouble before it falls due.
00:25:22
Speaker 4: Oh, I like that.
00:25:26
Speaker 19: And it's very true, really, isn't it?
00:25:28
Speaker 4: It is.
00:25:29
Speaker 19: Yeah. That's a great piece of advice. I thought that was a good one, yeah. And I wish all the kids doing their study all the best for the next couple of weeks.
00:25:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on you, Janet.
00:25:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful.
00:25:42
Speaker 3: That's a variation of that bit of logic. I couldn't exactly remember the quote, but it was by Seneca. It said we suffer more often in imagination than reality. And it's so true. Yeah, it is. There's iterations or variations of that quite over history. You suffer seven times more than you ever do in reality than in your own brain. Exams must hold so true for that experience. Thank you for that, Jeanette. Let's go to the– oh, we've got the weather. Will's weather. Just show we can't do Willie weather, isn't it? Because that app stole it. We didn't know. All right, weather time. It's a loud weather song, isn't it?
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying Willie weather's a no. I think Willie weather would be.
00:26:24
Speaker 3: A good one. Why did I say that? I shouldn't have said that. 18.8 degrees outside of the mud, but heading for a top today of 24. Partly cloudy with a slight chance of a shower in the late afternoon and the morning. Sorry, late morning and afternoon. Winds east to south-easterly, 15 to 20 k's an hour. It'll turn to a south-westerly, 20 to 30 k's per hour in the morning. And then we should have some light winds by this evening. Out in the waters, 10 knots becoming a south-westerly, 15 to 20 knots throughout the morning. And not much of a swell around below 1 metre, 1 to 1.5 during the afternoon. Doesn't feel like great boating weather though. In fact, the swell will be 0.5 metres for most of the day, just having a look at this. The sun set today, 7.46 p.m. So that's your Monday. And then over the course of the week, 23 tomorrow, 21 on Wednesday, 21 Thursday, 23 Friday, 21 Saturday, and 24 on Sunday. We might get some spots of rain, but it's not worth individually mentioning. Wednesday will be the one that gets a little bit potentially, but outside of that, you can dress this week for somewhere between 21 and 24. Beautiful work. Simple. Simple. The weather song ran out too quickly, Patrick.
00:27:40
Speaker 4: If it's going to be willy weather, we need the song to continue in the background.
00:27:44
Speaker 3: This has drowned me out. All right, let's go to Safe Bowl. Sydney Constable Holly Frisbee's on the line. Holly, good morning to you.
00:27:52
Speaker 24: Good morning, Will.
00:27:53
Speaker 3: A drink driver's crashed.
00:27:55
Speaker 24: About 5.30 last night, police were called to Finnis Street at Marion following reports of an MG hatchback crashing into the front of a house and leaving the scene unnoticed. Patrols were quick to the area and located the car nearby, where the driver was submitted to a breath test, which police will allege returned a positive result of 0.174, which is more than three times the legal limit. Thankfully, there were no reports of any physical injuries to the occupants of that home, and the driver was arrested and charged with driving in a reckless manner, failing to stop at the scene of a crash and drink driving. He was issued a 12-month immediate loss of licence notice and his car has been impounded for 28 days and he will appear in court later today.
00:28:35
Speaker 9: And two men have been arrested in the CBD after a break-in, Holly.
00:28:39
Speaker 24: About 1.30 this morning, police responded to reports of a break-in at a convenience store on Wright Street in the city. Police were in attendance with the assistance from Police Dog Operations Units PD Enzo and PD Hector, where two men were located at the rear of the business there and were arrested. A 20-year-old man from Hallet Cove was charged with numerous offences, including serious criminal trespass and unlawful possession, and a 21-year-old man from Adelaide was charged with serious criminal trespass. The 20-year-old man was bailed to appear in court at a later date, and the 21-year-old man had his bail refused, and he will appear in court later today. And with this one, we do ask anyone who was witness or has CCTV or dashcam in that area to contact Crime Stoppers online or on 1800 333 000.
00:29:24
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Holly. Thank you for that. Let's go to Plimpton. Jean, you've got some advice for our young year 12 exam.
00:29:30
Speaker 25: Yes, I do.
00:29:33
Speaker 26: My dad used to say, don't borrow trouble till trouble borrows you.
00:29:40
Speaker 11: You.
00:29:41
Speaker 3: Don't borrow trouble till trouble borrows you. I like that, Jean. Did he have a lot of sayings, your father, or was that just, that was one that he always repeated?
00:29:51
Speaker 26: Well, yes, he did. He used to have another beauty that went something like this. Um, When the fields are white with daisies and the roses bloom again, which was his answer when we kids said, or could we do, could we have something or could we go somewhere?
00:30:14
Speaker 3: That is beautiful, Jane. Thank you. Dads never just have one saying.
00:30:20
Speaker 8: No.
00:30:20
Speaker 3: I just thought that was a safe question.
00:30:22
Speaker 4: Little lines of wisdom for everything.
00:30:24
Speaker 3: If you've got one, you've definitely got two. Thank you, G. We'll take a quick break and come back with some more. So many great texts coming through as well. First, we check traffic. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota, combining iconic strength with advanced hybrid power.
00:30:38
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00:30:46
Speaker 1: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:30:57
Speaker 3: Liz McCaskill's prediction went for the race on the weekend. We're going to reveal all in just a moment. But first, some great tales of advice coming through on the text line. We do.
00:31:06
Speaker 4: We're getting some beautiful text messages here.
00:31:09
Speaker 9: I don't know if I totally endorse Andrew's, but his did come through.
00:31:13
Speaker 4: Don't start studying days early.
00:31:15
Speaker 9: Hit it hard the night before with a long, solid session until you go to bed.
00:31:18
Speaker 3: Andrew's my kind of guy.
00:31:21
Speaker 9: This one's a much more thoughtful one, I think. My Auntie Ruby's favourite quote. Love many, trust few, always paddle your own canoe.
00:31:29
Speaker 3: Oh, that's lovely.
00:31:30
Speaker 4: I like that.
00:31:32
Speaker 9: And a Susie, a teacher motto I always used for my students was failing to plan is planning to fail.
00:31:40
Speaker 4: Couldn't agree more.
00:31:41
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:31:42
Speaker 4: Failing to plan is planning to fail.
00:31:44
Speaker 3: Nathan makes, I think, an interesting comment about it's hard to imagine exams going anywhere because of the proliferation of AI these days because it's the one sort of thing we've got that says, no, no, you're in a room with a pencil and four bits of paper, whatever it might well be. There ain't computers here. There's no AI here.
00:32:02
Speaker 4: It's a good point.
00:32:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a very good point.
00:32:05
Speaker 9: My little life motto I've always lived by has been if you don't ask, you don't get. A lot of people are afraid of putting out there into the.
00:32:13
Speaker 4: World what they want, maybe a bit nervous, they might upset, but there's no harm in asking. And if you don't ask, you don't get.
00:32:19
Speaker 3: There's the, so many workplaces are filled with people who have jobs because they were the one who asked and they showed interest and they were really qualified people who waited around to be asked and it just never happened for them. So that's a good one, Stace. I like that. Um, We're going to text if someone wants my forthright thoughts on the Polish constitutional crisis that's going on. And we don't have two hours for that. I'll just say Poland is doing what it has done for a thousand years and it's tearing itself apart. It's a sad story that, but it's very complicated. It goes to the constitution and courts. And there are divisions in that country that have existed since the 10th century about, are you loyal to Germany or Russia or Prussia or the Austrians? And if you read anything about that storyline without acknowledging there is a history of people using those biases to tear a country apart, you won't get the full picture. This is 2026, could be 1576. It's actually quite sad. Thank you for that text, but it's a bit a little bit complicated to go into on breakfast. You know what's not complicated? Liz McCaskill's prediction. She says, I had a vision. Here's what she said.
00:33:19
Speaker 22: The last couple of days, I've had a cold shower. I've gone to get in the shower, and the shower's been cold. Every tap in the house, the hot water's worked, except for the shower.
00:33:29
Speaker 27: And then yesterday, I.
00:33:30
Speaker 22: Was looking at the track for the Derby. And I got down to number 14 and it was Cold Shower. So that's the one I'm going to go for.
00:33:39
Speaker 3: So how did Cold Shower go in race seven? 400 metres to go.
00:33:43
Speaker 6: The filly strides a length and a half in front of Cormier into the clear. Sighetti is staying on his machine and Stormy.
00:33:49
Speaker 28: Marco right down the centre from Cold Shower and True Rebel.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: Stormy Marco went to the front. 250 metres to go.
00:33:56
Speaker 3: Two lengths in front of Cold Shower.
00:33:58
Speaker 1: Quick finish machine and True Rebel.
00:34:00
Speaker 3: Stormy Marco clear.
00:34:01
Speaker 6: 100 metres to go from Cold Shower.
00:34:04
Speaker 1: And it's James McDonald, three-second derby.
00:34:07
Speaker 3: Stormy Marco, but at Cold Shower second.
00:34:09
Speaker 15: Big finish third.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: Cold Shower second. Second. And it paid out a decent amount. Paid $ 19. 60, says Scott. Well done, Liz, on the text line. So some people might have, if you add it each way, for a top-three finish.
00:34:26
Speaker 4: I have no idea. Gamble responsibly, everyone. But it means nothing. What does pay each way mean?
00:34:32
Speaker 3: So wins or you could have it for a place, second or third or first or second. Each way means you're betting on both results. So if it wins, you collect all of it. For your second, you get something. So, yes. Are we putting that down as a win for Liz? I think that's a win for Liz, isn't it?
00:34:52
Speaker 4: 5AA resident psychic strikes again.
00:34:54
Speaker 3: Liz had a cold shower. So what does she think about the Melbourne Cup?
00:34:57
Speaker 22: Yeah.
00:34:57
Speaker 3: We'll find out.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: We'll get her a tip for the Melbourne Cup.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:35:01
Speaker 17: Well.
00:35:02
Speaker 3: That was excellent, Liz. You've done it again. You're an absolute legend. All right, we're going to take a break. 5AA News is on the way. I love this news poll. Have you read this this morning?
00:35:10
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:35:11
Speaker 3: They've ranked all the cabinet ministers in terms of their popularity.
00:35:15
Speaker 6: Who knows?
00:35:15
Speaker 3: There's a couple of South Australians in this conversation as well, a couple of potential prime ministers, a couple of fan favourites like Jim Chalmers and Chris Bowen. If you want to hear how they went, stay listening.
00:35:25
Speaker 2: Knock down.
00:35:26
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00:35:27
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00:35:31
Speaker 1: Metro Homes.
00:35:32
Speaker 4: They do it all for you.
00:35:34
Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
00:35:40
Speaker 3: Seven after seven. Good morning to you and welcome to Monday. You're joining us for the first time on 5AA Breakfast. A lot of thanks to Liz McCaskill coming through, who Cold Shower ran second. James in Morford Vale said, I put $ 5 on Cold Shower for a place. paid nearly $ 60. Thank you, Liz. There's a lot of that related stuff coming through. Gamble responsibly, obviously. There's a bit of a clamour now for what's Liz's Melbourne Cup pick. We might put a call into her and find out. She might be on a heater, as they say. Now, coming up on the program this morning, we're going to talk about the removal of height restrictions in the Hindmarsh area. So 20-storey towers around Hindmarsh. They've obviously got the Southwark development there. Ben Jordan made an interesting point earlier about polling of young people. There doesn't seem to be as A huge clamour of people that want to live, according to the data he cited, in these kind of high-rise towers. I'm intrigued by that. Brompton seems very popular. That, to me, seems like the model of modern sort of urban developments, close to a train station, just outside of the city.
00:36:41
Speaker 9: I'd love to know where those stats are from, because it's not my experience having lots of friends who … Maybe it's out of necessity rather than choice, buying into an apartment building.
00:36:50
Speaker 3: That may well be the answer. But that's intriguing and something we're going to get into very, very shortly. Timmy G on a disastrous weekend of sport for South Australia. It's just got to be said. We've had a shocker. In fact, Australia hasn't done much better. We'll get Timmy's take on that. And Chris Burns after 7.30 on a really important initiative, the Women's and Children's Wellbeing Centre that they've just started. They've never done something like this before, but such is the need. It's down the avenue they're going. Lots of text still on advice for our Year 12s that are starting out today.
00:37:19
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:37:19
Speaker 9: Colin says, Stacey, you stole my phrase. I've been quoting for a long time now. A question unasked is a question unanswered. If you don't ask, you definitely won't get.
00:37:28
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
00:37:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one, Colin. And Guy says, I've always liked the Ron Barassi quote. If it's going to happen, it's up to me.
00:37:37
Speaker 3: If it's going to be, it's up to me.
00:37:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:37:41
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Should we do a little impromptu seven after seven?
00:37:44
Speaker 4: Oh, go for it.
00:37:45
Speaker 1: The top seven after seven.
00:37:47
Speaker 3: Now, usually we have a seven after seven because Paddy and Jess have put it together and I've talked too long and we ran out of time. That is not the case this morning. We have a seven after seven that's been provided by NewsPoll. Now, NewsPoll came out last night. Usually we'd sort of be talking about the primary vote, which is 27 Labor, One Nation, 28 Coalition, 21. So they're all bunched. It's fairly similar to where it has sort of been. over the last little while. Notable, of course, because One Nation now ahead of Labor, October 26 to 29, this period. But what they've done this time is they've polled the attitudes to the seven most senior cabinet ministers in the Albanese government. I thought this was not going well. Stacey started yawning. I better pick it up. So here's what we've got. The seven before seven cabinet ministers polled by NewsPoll and their attitudes toward them. Jim Chalmers, Penny Wong, Richard Miles, Tony Burke, Mark Butler, Chris Bowen, Tanya Plibersek. Here we go. The least popular in number seven is Jim Chalmers, who is minus 16 in terms of his net rating.
00:38:54
Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
00:38:55
Speaker 3: The sixth is Chris Bowen. He is minus 13. Then Tony Burke, he's minus seven.
00:39:02
Speaker 13: Mm-hmm.
00:39:03
Speaker 3: What are we up to? We've got three more. Mark Butler is minus three. Okay. South Australia's future prime minister. Tanya Plibersek, plus one in terms of rating. Penny Wong, plus two. The most popular of the cabinet ministers. I'm intrigued by this. The percentage of people polled who say they have not heard of any of these people. This is my favourite data point always. This is really bad for Mark Butler's aspirations to be the prime minister of Australia.
00:39:29
Speaker 8: 50.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: Australia. 54% of people responding to this poll said they'd never heard of Mark Butler.
00:39:34
Speaker 4: Oh.
00:39:36
Speaker 3: 54% they'd never heard of the Deputy Prime Minister, Richard Marles, by the way, so maybe that would be his argument. The most heard of, Penny Wong, only 89% of people had heard of Penny Wong. One in five people have never heard of our Treasurer, Jim Chalmers.
00:39:48
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:39:49
Speaker 4: That's a concern.
00:39:51
Speaker 3: Or should we be jealous?
00:39:52
Speaker 4: Did we find number one?
00:39:53
Speaker 3: The most popular was Penny Wong.
00:39:56
Speaker 8: Really?
00:39:56
Speaker 3: Plus two. Satisfied to dissatisfied. That's my measure of things.
00:40:00
Speaker 1: There you go.
00:40:01
Speaker 3: I think, just digging down into the data, my favourite other data point in terms of the– I'm not sure what's happening among Greens voters. Is anyone? So among Greens voters, there seems to be a real crisis of hearing of any of these people. So 71% of Greens voters have never heard of Richard Marles. 52% have heard of Tony Burke, 59% have never heard of Mark Butler, 56% have never heard of Chris Bowen, and 53% have never heard of Tanya Plibersek. People identifying as Greens voters, more than half of them have never heard of any of the cabinet ministers in this country. Any of the cabinet ministers? That stands quite astride from, if you do the same polling for Labor, the Coalition and One Nation. The one person they have heard of is Penny Wong. Okay. Her not heard of is their lowest, albeit she still is Least heard of among Greens voters, if that makes sense.
00:40:50
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:40:51
Speaker 3: Okay. So Penny Wong, more likely to become Prime Minister than Mark Butler is my reading on that. There you go. Congratulations to you, Penny.
00:40:56
Speaker 8: Well done.
00:40:56
Speaker 3: You just need to change chamber, move downstairs, a la Matt Canavan, who has revealed he will be doing precisely that for Capricornia.
00:41:04
Speaker 8: Yes.
00:41:04
Speaker 3: Is the seat.
00:41:04
Speaker 15: Yep.
00:41:06
Speaker 4: Vacancy.
00:41:07
Speaker 3: On that polling from One Nation would seem to be a very brave gambit.
00:41:10
Speaker 8: Yeah.
00:41:10
Speaker 3: I would have thought.
00:41:12
Speaker 4: It would be.
00:41:14
Speaker 3: Now, folks, what we always do after seven is ask you what what we got wrong. What did NewsPoll get wrong? Most unpopular, Jim Chalmers, second, Chris Bowen. Most popular among them, Penny Wong from Tanya Plibersek. So what do you agree or disagree with? 0-4-8-0-8-13-95. Do you agree or disagree with the removal of height restrictions around Hindmarsh? So Manton Street, Holden Street, that sort of little pocket, if you're coming from the western suburbs past Hindmarsh Stadium, just in behind the Entertainment Centre, you've got the Southwark development on the other side there.
00:41:48
Speaker 4: If you live in Hindmarsh, we'd love to hear from you about this change.
00:41:51
Speaker 9: Or, you know, if this is now happening in the suburbs, could we see it happening in a suburb near you?
00:41:56
Speaker 4: Height restrictions gone.
00:41:57
Speaker 17: Yeah.
00:41:57
Speaker 3: Would you welcome it? Liam Golding, the CEO of the Urban Development Institute of South Australia, is on the line. Liam, I imagine you guys see all sorts of potential in this kind of move.
00:42:08
Speaker 27: Oh, we certainly do. The Urban Development Institute has been talking for a while about the need for relaxed height restrictions in corridor zones, and this is a prime candidate for it. What we've got here is a very close-to-the-city piece of land which is well-serviced by existing road and public transport infrastructure. And part of the beauty of this area is that there aren't a huge number of these existing residents, and the ones that are there will get a significant uplift in value on their land.
00:42:38
Speaker 4: Do you have any indication from the government at all, Liam, if they're thinking about doing this anywhere else?
00:42:44
Speaker 27: I think that the government has indicated previously that the old army barracks at Keswick that are part of the Orcas land swap arrangement, I think that there is a piece of work going on there about the height restrictions that might come into play there or relaxing the height restrictions so there can be some development there. Obviously, there's the development that's happened at Glenside. There's the developments that have happened previously across the road at Bowdoin from the Hindmarsh area and also what's happening at Southwark. So there's a little bit of activity around the city rim. And I think that focusing this activity on Hindmarsh now makes a lot of sense to show what can happen, how it can be done really well and how it can be a destination for people to move to.
00:43:34
Speaker 3: Is the height restriction and the potential buildings that are going to go in there, Liam, exclusively residential? Or do you think, is there any, well, one, desire for, but is there a potential for commercial high-rise as well?
00:43:47
Speaker 27: I think that the.
00:43:49
Speaker 3: Like offices is what I guess I'm saying.
00:43:51
Speaker 27: Yeah, yeah, I get that. I think that it's more likely to be mixed use rather than purely commercial there. I think that there's intent from the government for there to be some activity there, but really keeping the purely commercial buildings in the CBD. But I have a feeling that this would be the sort of thing that would evolve over a number of years. Early on, we expected the major demand in the area and the projects that would go up would likely be residential. They leveraged the existing opportunities that are there. Maybe it's soccer fans that want to live close to Highmarsh Stadium, opportunity for some growth around the entertainment centres, for an Airbnb for a night out before going to a concert. there's a lot of potential for what could work in this area. And I think once the population moves in there, then you start to see, well, maybe this is a place that an office building can work quite well on Port Road or something along those lines. So the biggest difference, I think, with Hindmarsh as opposed to what's happened across the road in Bowdoin is this is a piecemeal ownership at present. So it's not where Clipsa was moving out. There was one big block and there was one big area that could be developed all coordinated. What we've got now is a lot of separate owners and a lot of separate owners hopefully will see the opportunity to move their operations to a more appropriate location and pre-up this land for its highest and best use, which right now is probably residential land put above over the coming decades.
00:45:24
Speaker 9: Are there any rules around car parks in an apartment size that big? Is there a minimum requirement of car parks per apartment or anything like that?
00:45:34
Speaker 27: There will be some requirements. Now, I think that the big part of the announcement regarding car parking was that this would be an area that could have car parking managed by a precinct level. So you wouldn't necessarily need to have all the car parks in a specific location. But it would need to have the car parking managed by ensuring that there's an adequate supply within the precinct generally. So that might mean that there's a handful of towers and then a separate building for car parking, which is tied to that.
00:46:12
Speaker 4: Not street parking?
00:46:14
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 27: No, I think if you've got a 20-storey building, having everyone parking on the street is just going to be unrealistic. But at the same time, making sure that you make the buildings viable in a way which still creates a community that works, that has that opportunity for people to come and visit is an important thing. I will admit, as I was speaking to you then, I was Looking through the government's press release to try and find their exact wording on that, I haven't quite caught it. But yeah, I do remember the government saying something about that as they were talking about their announcement. So I think that they're taking a sensible approach to car parking and a sensible approach to increasing the value of the land so that we can get what's needed in terms of development and get this area developed. so that it's really contributing to the vibrancy of Adelaide.
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Speaker 3: Hey, Liam, just before we let you go, give us one dare-to-dream suburb where if height restrictions came off, you'd have a 20-storey tower there by, you know, March.
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Speaker 27: Well, that's a dangerous one. I think that's a very dangerous one. Look, I think there's a lot of great places in the city and particularly around the city of Rims where we can see appropriate density, that if it's designed well and if it's thoughtful about interfaces and not making existing residents nervous, I think that's a good thing. I mean, I think right now we've still got a lot of opportunities in the city centre for high-rise buildings as well. So it's about making sure that we're growing up where we need to, across the CBD and across the inner metro area.
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Speaker 3: Liam, thank you. Fascinating. The CEO of the Urban Development Institute of South Australia, Liam Golding. A few people have pointed out some of the other developments that are happening. There's controversial development, obviously, around the parade that people don't particularly like. Dave from Alberton says the Port Adelaide-Alberton Square development is 13 stories high on Port Road. We are seeing more of this kind of thing popping up. Chris makes the point that the Raptor site opposite the um, um, entertainment center is for sale at the moment. I think the price for that just went up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be rezoned. You'd, You'd have to do so. I bet then there's someone like Michael Stace who's texted in and has some concerns.
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Speaker 9: Yep, Michael lives in Hindmarsh. My family have lived there since the mid-1800s. Once again, no community consultation. This is the first I've heard of it. I'm not sure how this will increase my house value when I'll have a 20-storey tower looking down on me. Good luck for Cooper Stadium who will want to live there and have the soccer fans parking everywhere. I'm sure there won't be complaints about that. Typical government, announce something and work out the details later. I think consultation is open now. Michael, I was just looking at the press release.
00:48:55
Speaker 3: So this is the start of the consultation.
00:48:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sunday the 1st of November.
00:48:58
Speaker 9: So it looks like you will have an opportunity to have your say.
00:49:03
Speaker 6: All right.
00:49:03
Speaker 3: We'd love your say on the text line 2048081395 or give us a call 8223 0000. I'd love to chat with you about that. Let's check traffic. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota combining iconic strength with hybrid power.
00:49:16
Speaker 1: Knockdown.
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Speaker 2: Build two with Metro Homes. Sell one and move on.
00:49:20
Speaker 4: Keep the other as an investment.
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00:49:24
Speaker 1: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
00:49:26
Speaker 5: This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: 25 after 7, the new home of the Weather Bureau on 5AA Breakfast. 25 after 7, Patrick Clapp from the Bureau of Meteorology joins us. Morning, Patrick.
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Speaker 11: Morning, Will.
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Speaker 29: Morning, Stacey.
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Speaker 3: All right, take us through Monday and a little bit of the week, Paddy.
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Speaker 29: Yeah, absolutely. So a little bit more of a settled day after yesterday and through that overnight period. So that was all driven by a low-pressure system tracking to the north of Adelaide, sort of through the Peninsula and across into Victoria. So that's been driving all the weather. But like I said, it moves into Victoria today and kind of takes more of the significant weather, more showers, storms further to the east. It means that for Adelaide, we're looking at maybe a few more lighter showers around the hills today. So you might still get a couple more drops, but very much a lighter story for that rainfall today. Temperature-wise, it does mean we're looking at around the 24-degree mark. So I mentioned some showers. It means there's some cloud around today as well, so a partly cloudy day. And then tomorrow, a much more settled day again, so sunny conditions today. through Tuesday, and then our next feature to watch is the next front on Wednesday. So that's likely to bring a few more showers, but nothing quite to match what we saw through yesterday and through the overnight period. So that's kind of what we're looking at over the next few days. Like I said, 24 today, it's a 23 tomorrow, and then a 21 on Wednesday with that next cold front.
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Speaker 3: All right, good stuff, Patrick. Thank you, Patrick Clapp from the Bureau of Meteorology.
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Speaker 6: Timmy G The horror Halloween weekend we didn't want for sport, my friend.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 6: If you roll through it, Adelaide United went down 4-0. 36ers down by 7, celebrating the 86 Invincibles. Our Saka team lost by 105 runs. The Crows AFLW girls went down by 18 points to miss finals. South Africa win the third test by 176 runs and take the series 2-1. If it wasn't for the Port AFLW girls winning by a goal, gee whiz, we'd be in big stride.
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Speaker 3: Just an absolute shock, and it looks like on a couple of those fronts, Tim, Adelaide United certainly, we're hoping the 36ers come good, but injuries have made it very difficult. That might be long years.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, unfortunately now, 36ers go five and six, and they're sort of scrapping and fighting, but they played really well against New Zealand on Friday, but then just lost the spark, and their first quarter cost them. They were very lacklustre in the first quarter, and that ended up being the damage done because they were down by 13. So, yeah, it was a bad one. And the South Africa loss, we just capitulated in the last innings. And we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago, didn't we, when we spoke about how we were worried our bowls protect us most of the time and our batting is a bit fragile. Well, it got exposed badly on the weekend. But the irony for me was David Warner and the commentary team saying, It was both unacceptable and disgraceful. Well, I thought what he did eight years ago might have maybe fitted.
00:52:55
Speaker 3: That bill a little better. If anyone should know. I know the standards. I said them. He's our foremost expert on disgraceful and unacceptable.
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Speaker 10: Pot, kettle, black?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. Spot on. Liz McCaskill picked us a winner in the races over the weekend, Tim. So we're calling it as breakfast is on a hot streak. What are your thoughts on the Melbourne Cup tomorrow?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, every Melbourne Cup is just so open, and it's always a great story in there somewhere when the top three come through. But look, I'm going to give you the four I think can win it, and then you can box it up, put it in a trifecta, and you're guaranteed. No, gamble responsibly, for God's sakes. Let's have a look. We've got number four, Middle Earth, ran third last year. That's a big chance. Number 10, Goody Two Shoes. I think was runner-up last year. So there's a couple of good ones there. Number 11 here, Juju Kibo. I think that's in good form, number 11. And then number 20 is the favourite point of law who won the Geelong Cup. So you box those up and Bob's your uncle. Not a problem.
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Speaker 3: Not a problem. We'd like that. We'll have some positivity tonight on the sports show, Tim. It's going to be in short supply. So it's up to you, I think.
00:54:10
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get lots of other expert advices tonight on the Melbourne Cup because by the end of it, we'll have 24 chances.
00:54:18
Speaker 3: Of winning, I reckon. Good on you, Tim.
00:54:21
Speaker 10: Who wrote?
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Speaker 3: TVG, back on the sports show tonight. And yeah, crikey, what a weekend it was. Coming up very shortly, Bronte Emanuel from Toop & Toop. We'll talk real estate with Bronte and before him, the Hutt Street Centre with a new venture that's terrific that they're going to be providing it. Very sad, though, that there's... Such demand for it. All the details coming up right after 5AA. 20 minutes to wait. Some breaking news out of the United States. Have a listen to this story courtesy of Fox News about a plane crash that's happened in Florida.
00:55:06
Speaker 28: Emergency crews are responding to a plane crash in West Palm Beach, Florida.
00:55:11
Speaker 8: It appears to.
00:55:12
Speaker 28: Be a Lear 60, a Bombardier Lear 60 aircraft. There are reportedly no survivors. What led to the crash still being determined, but a social media video shows the thing slamming almost straight into the ground at a rate of 32,000 feet per minute.
00:55:32
Speaker 3: I was sent this video about 10 minutes ago. 32,000 feet per minute is 535 k's an hour. And I thought it was, it looks like it's in the back of a vehicle, so not dash cam, but it's definitely shot from a moving vehicle. I thought I was looking at a shot of a Russian attack on Kiev.
00:55:52
Speaker 14: Yep.
00:55:53
Speaker 3: Because you can't see the plane and you can hear a noise that sounds like a missile. You have to slow it down frame by frame and then you see, yeah, a Learjet. It's the sort of private jet that billionaires would fly around in, pointing nose down into the ground and disintegrating.
00:56:09
Speaker 26: Yeah.
00:56:10
Speaker 3: It is just... Breathtaking vision.
00:56:12
Speaker 4: It's shocking.
00:56:14
Speaker 9: And now there's some more information coming out about it. Apparently where it crashed is not far from Mar-a-Lago.
00:56:21
Speaker 8: Right.
00:56:22
Speaker 9: And recently there have been anti-defence missiles put out the front of Mar-a-Lago, which is Donald Trump's residence in Florida, short-range defence air missiles. So don't know what's happened here. We'll find out. But it crashed into a motorhome as well. There's a big crater in the ground now where it.
00:56:44
Speaker 4: Is, according to pictures online. So we'll get more information.
00:56:49
Speaker 9: Another report I read was that it was originally planning to go to the Bahamas but had taken a detour.
00:56:55
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:56:55
Speaker 4: Its original journey was to the Bahamas and then it kind of detoured.
00:56:58
Speaker 3: Okay, so Caribbean, it's over to Florida.
00:57:00
Speaker 6: All right.
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Speaker 3: Look, we're only looking at the vision. The news has just broken, as you've heard. It's new in the United States as well. I don't ever recall seeing vision in my life. We've seen plane crashes. We've seen planes come down big and small. Something going that fast.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was AI when I first saw the video. And this is the thing. In 2026, you can't believe anything you see, especially when you first see it. But I looked at it and went, is that real? Are we reporting on that?
00:57:25
Speaker 9: And there's a lot of news outlets in America that have started reporting on it in the last half hour.
00:57:29
Speaker 8: Yeah.
00:57:30
Speaker 3: You're going to see a lot of that over the course of the day and on 7 News tonight as well. All right, let's talk about something back here at home. The Hutt Street Centre are launching a new Women's and Children's Wellbeing Centre, their first women-only, child-safe and trauma-informed wellbeing centre for those that are at risk of or experiencing homelessness. Chris Burns, the CEO of the Hutt Street Centre, joins us. Chris, all morning. I've been talking about this and saying it's fantastic that you guys are adding to the suite of services you provide. It's fantastic that you're providing a safe space for these people that are probably fleeing violent situations or God knows what. Just sad that you've got such demand that, you know, you've had to do it, I guess.
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Speaker 11: Absolutely. And good morning, Will and Stacey. Thanks for having us. Yeah, in one hand, as you said, it's exciting that we're going to be able to provide these services. What's sad is that we need to provide these services. And to put it in context, over the last four years, we've seen the demand for our services by female clients increase by 77%. But coupled with that, as we started running programs to support those women, we realized that for every woman that was coming into the center for our services, at least one, if not two more, were not coming in because there was blokes in the centre and it just wasn't a safe place for them. So we know that there's a demand increasing out there, that there's an unmet demand out there, and that's caused us to look into the future and now we're just this amazing opportunity to set up a centre uniquely just for women and children that will be there to provide that immediate triage point where they first become homeless and then to support them on their journey out of homelessness.
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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, so that was my next question because there are different services available at different stages of someone's journey. So if you become homeless, this could be a place you go?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, this is your first point of call. This is your first open door. We provide that immediate triage, that crisis response to the point where we can stabilise people and they're ready to move to places like Catherine House. or Vinnie's Women's Shelter or into actual housing. So what hasn't been there up until now is a unique facility just for women and women with children when they first become homeless or they are living on the street or living in their cars.
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Speaker 3: Chris, I know in the dealings we have with both you guys and Catherine House as part of the Undie Drive each year, Catherine House... has to operate with a degree of secrecy to keep people safe because they're often fleeing people who have been violent and have designs on continuing being violent towards them. Has that had to change? Will this centre have to operate differently to how you've had Hutt Street traditionally, given those sorts of security-related concerns?
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Speaker 11: Exactly. We're looking at sites at the moment where we can have discrete points of entry rather than having to walk off the street. and provide that security. It's all about providing that place where they feel safe. So it's a learning curve for us, but fortunately we're able to talk to close allies like Catherine House and Vinnies and learn off their lessons. But it will be in close proximity to the existing centre. It's going to be a hub-and-spoke type arrangement. That's because it's an initial set-up and training You just can't set up a whole equivalent of what we've got now in another place without having some link back to here.
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Speaker 9: So what do you need to be able to make it happen and when do you hope to have.
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Speaker 4: It up and running?
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Speaker 11: So it's going to be entirely funded from donations. So donations are obviously what we'll be looking, financial donations initially. If people want to use our website, hudstreetcentre.org.au, But the second part of your question, we're hoping that early next year, 2027, we will have resolved all leases and be able to open our doors.
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Speaker 10: All right.
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Speaker 3: Well, Chris, good on you guys. Well done. It's terrific. Terrific. You get to expand the range of wonderful services that you there at Hutt Street provide. Thanks for your time this morning.
01:02:11
Speaker 11: Thanks, Will. Thanks, Josh.
01:02:13
Speaker 3: Chris Burns, the CEO of the Hutt Street Centre.
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Speaker 4: We need to get that up and running ASAP.
01:02:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. Well, we know that there's a pretty strong correlation between tough economic times and this kind of thing happening, these kind of situations getting violent. So, unfortunately, there's only going to be increasing demand based on that metric alone. All right, let's have a look at the traffic situation, and we'll come back with more in just a moment. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota, combining iconic strength with hybrid power.
01:02:42
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Speaker 5: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee. This is 5AA Breakfast.
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Speaker 3: Eight minutes to eight. Lots of very interesting ticks coming through at the moment on 04808 1395. You can call us to an 8223 0000 to express your thoughts at any time. We'd love to chat with you. You can call in and just have your say. Have your say whatever's happening.
01:03:10
Speaker 9: Getting some conspiracy theories through as well. On all manner of things, including the Hutt Street Centre.
01:03:16
Speaker 3: The Hutt Street, the plane crash.
01:03:18
Speaker 4: The plane crash.
01:03:19
Speaker 3: Plane crashes do invite conspiracy theories.
01:03:23
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:03:24
Speaker 4: For everyone's sanity, I won't read it out.
01:03:27
Speaker 3: It involves a lot of numbers.
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Speaker 4: We need the X part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I got a migraine just reading it. All right. Shall we? Let's talk real estate. Oh, no, it didn't work. All right. Let's go to Bronte Emanuel from Tupa Tupa. Bronte, good morning to you. Good morning, guys. I tried to do an impromptu intro song for you, Bronte, but I didn't quite.
01:03:50
Speaker 16: Oh, here we go.
01:03:51
Speaker 3: Oh, no, we got it now. Here we go. Bronte manual time. You know you've made it now, Bronte. You've got an intro song.
01:03:59
Speaker 8: Good morning.
01:04:01
Speaker 20: Did Michael Capner play that with Hot Options?
01:04:04
Speaker 10: Do you remember Hot Options?
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I think you're right. It was definitely one of those. It is the low-hanging fruit in terms of our housing-related intro songs. Interest rates tomorrow. I keep thinking back to something you said. It was either last week or the week before, but it's been a constant theme. There are two forces at play, aren't there? There's the budget. but there's also the rate rises degrading people's capacity to borrow, and they're both combining to make housing a little bit tough at the moment.
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Speaker 20: Yeah, so, look, rates tomorrow, I think we're all but certain they're going to go up, and there's probably part of me that just wants the decision out of the road, right? Like, as humans, we always want certainty, and in the marketplace, there's nearly more chatter about is or isn't it going to happen. So if it does happen, it's expected, and if it doesn't happen... people would be sort of celebrating. But I mean, what does another 0.25, if that's what it's going to be, what does that mean? Well, it probably means someone that could borrow a million might now be chipped back another 20 grand again. So there's definitely that affordability component. And then I guess when we're talking budget component, that is very much more about just investors leaving the marketplace, you know, so we, there's data that came out saying that investor loans were up, but we also just need to remember that that data was based upon a very, a window where people could borrow in their super fund. And there was a deadline that you can no longer buy residential property, like establish residential property in the super fund and borrow funds. You've either got to pay cash for it, buy a new home or buy other assets. So, That spiked the data. And then we also saw another report came out by Nick Champion, who's actually a really great guy, saying that in South Australia, we've got a record number of new dwelling approvals. But I think we just need to be very, very clear that an approval and a built structure are two different things. I dealt with a developer at the mall, dealt with one and in dealing with another, he had five houses approved in O'Sullivan's Beach, sold it as a house, is no longer going ahead with that development. And another one in Hope Valley, four approved on it and sold it as a house. So that's nine additional properties. Hey, the neighbours might be happy because they get the one home. But my point is there was nine approvals there, but all nine of those homes will not be built.
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Speaker 17: So supply demand, I just feel like the supply of property is going to bite us because it is developers have said we're done here like we the confidence is not where we need it and rents are rising so i just think it's this housing shortage is getting worse but we're in this little storm at the moment where no one's kind of doing anything.
01:06:59
Speaker 3: Especially when construction costs continue and exactly falling away either so the margins are just evaporating entirely Yeah, well.
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Speaker 20: I mean, you've got government projects to try. And I'm not trying to just harpoon the government here. I mean, my son did say that less people were participating in Halloween. So he's walking down Prospect and a few houses didn't have anything. And my wife says to me, what have you been saying to our son?
01:07:21
Speaker 19: I said, what's that?
01:07:22
Speaker 6: He said to his mate, bloody Albanese, no one's got any money.
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Speaker 20: That's why they're not, that's why less people are doing Halloween.
01:07:30
Speaker 10: How old is he, is he Loxton?
01:07:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, he ate, but I.
01:07:34
Speaker 6: Think it was off your commentary last week.
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Speaker 20: And she says, at what point as a parent do you think there's a moment to actually have a discussion about this with our son?
01:07:42
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'll find the moment. Don't worry.
01:07:44
Speaker 3: It sounds like you've already found a few moments.
01:07:46
Speaker 4: Breakfast, dinner, packing lunch boxes.
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Speaker 20: No, but look, I just think the government spend, though, I mean, if you're a tradie out there and you own a business, and some of your workers, what they've been offered to work on tunnels and what they're going to be offered to work on subs and hospitals, like you just.
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Speaker 1: Can't compete with it.
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Speaker 20: So yeah, there's, there's a lot happening here and I just think, well, affordability has definitely eroded, right? And whenever our affordability erodes, then typically we plateau, we plateau and Adelaide has only gone backwards twice, you.
01:08:21
Speaker 3: Know, in 42 years.
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Speaker 20: And this year I, still part of me thinks we're going to finish it in the positive, you know, but each month that's 0.6 or 2% there, it's getting tighter. But there's this perfect storm happening at the moment where it feels like, I guess, you could take the view that the housing crisis is being fixed, but it's actually being prolonged and getting worse. You know, if you look at proportion of houses to people, there is, as people keep moving here and we build less houses, it's only getting worse, but then Will people have the money to pay a huge up spike in prices later on?
01:08:58
Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 10: It's a fair question.
01:09:00
Speaker 9: On who you are, isn't it, and what the housing crisis means to you. Because if the housing crisis is prices are too high and first home buyers can't afford it, then maybe it's heading.
01:09:10
Speaker 4: In the right direction. But with interest rates going up, maybe not.
01:09:13
Speaker 3: Are you chasing your tail?
01:09:15
Speaker 4: If you have a home, housing crisis means something different to you. It's so... Yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. We have the same conversation, but everyone's listening to it through a totally different lens. Bronte, thank you. Bronte Emanuel from Toop and Toop. He's doing remarkable work just to educate the next generation on that. On politics.
01:09:36
Speaker 9: I wish I could be a fly on the wall following those eight-year-olds down the street during Halloween going.
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Speaker 4: Bloody Albanese.
01:09:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's got any money.
01:09:43
Speaker 4: No one's got choccies for us.
01:09:44
Speaker 3: Cost of living crisis. It was, you know what, not for nothing. Thank you, Bronte. We went to multiple places who were very apologetic saying, I bought 80 bucks worth of lollies. Sorry, I've got none left.
01:09:56
Speaker 4: You know, it's not.
01:10:00
Speaker 3: It's not no factor. Bronnie Manuel from Toop and Toop, thank you. Make sure you tune into the live stream. We've got Dilmar on board sponsoring the live stream. What a great company.
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01:10:14
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01:10:18
Speaker 10: With vanilla and ginger.
01:10:18
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01:10:30
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01:10:38
Speaker 1: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
01:10:40
Speaker 5: This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:10:44
Speaker 3: Nine after eight, break it eight, coming up in just a moment. We're going to talk back shortly. Talk about Anthony Lopalia's criticism of Adelaide.
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Speaker 13: Boring.
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Speaker 11: Boring.
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Speaker 24: Boring.
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Speaker 4: Except the guy who just did.
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Speaker 3: The most boring play on Adelaide. He's not a fan. Yeah, Death of a Salesman. It's not an edge-of-your-seat kind of ride.
01:11:07
Speaker 9: I should have educated myself before I went. I didn't know anything about it.
01:11:11
Speaker 3: After 8.30, I'll tell you what is a bit of an edge-of-your-seat ride is if you come into the– field of vision of an AI camera, because you never know, you might be doing something entirely legal and you might get a fine. Remarkable statistic on the front page of the advertiser this morning about the proportion of these that get torn up. One in four AI-issued parking fines in the city of Adelaide are thrown out on appeal, presumably because what they've captured wasn't wrongdoing. I imagine that would mean the absolute flaw for the number of fines that are not Capturing illegal behaviour is one in four. It's probably greater than that, but people don't have the time or wherewithal to challenge it. That hasn't deterred Mitcham, Salisbury, Burnside and Mount Barker councils from having a look at this. We're going to talk about it after 8.30 today. The AI camera might be coming to a suburb near you.
01:12:04
Speaker 9: I wonder if now this is what it will take for people to become outraged.
01:12:08
Speaker 4: It happened in Sydney. We've spoken about it before. Sydney City Council introduced this car.
01:12:13
Speaker 9: The state government there got involved and introduced a piece of legislation that said if you're going to issue a fine, that fine has to be issued in a timely manner. So basically straight away. So people need the notice that they've done something wrong, not by a car driving past and then you get a letter in the mail two or three weeks later.
01:12:29
Speaker 4: So they've changed the rules in New South Wales. So these AI cars can't exist or they exist in a very different way.
01:12:36
Speaker 10: Yeah.
01:12:37
Speaker 9: I wonder if these types of cars and these types of fines going to the suburbs is what it's going to take here for enough people to be outraged and for the state government to be required to step in.
01:12:46
Speaker 3: They're going to need to be dragged to it by an upset population. Well, I tell you what, that's a whole lot of people that will be affected if all those suburbs take it up. We will take it up after 8.30. Right now, though, it's time for Breaking Note. Breaking Note.
01:13:01
Speaker 9: This is another matter with the Adelaide City Council, not the AI car this time.
01:13:06
Speaker 4: This is about the motion, the news we.
01:13:09
Speaker 9: Broke last week regarding Adelaide City Council passing a motion to ban advertising of oil and gas companies on City Council infrastructure. I flagged last week that there were a number of people looking at this to potentially make a change. One of those people is Aman Abrahimsadeh, a councillor on the City of Adelaide. Good morning to you, Aman.
01:13:33
Speaker 16: Good morning, Stacey, Will, and to your listeners.
01:13:36
Speaker 9: So firstly, what's the response that you've had since this motion was passed to ban oil and gas advertising in the city, pretty much?
01:13:44
Speaker 16: I think you and your listeners could probably imagine what sort of response I've received. And you know what? That response has been received by a number of other councillors. And there's been a number of us that have had a couple of discussions, and I believe now there is probably a couple of motions that have been lodged to reverse this decision. Now, I just want to bring to your attention the fact that we had one councillor away at that meeting where this decision was made. So we're hoping that the numbers look different, and we will have a full council to.
01:14:25
Speaker 16: Essentially reversed that decision that was made. But the feedback has been horrendous, to be honest with you, Stacey, because there are a lot of people that have essentially said, how can you go and make a decision when small businesses are struggling and have been struggling for some time? What we're trying to do is encourage more people to come into the city. What we're trying to do is get behind major events But here you are putting up restrictions and putting up red tape. And this is their view. And I'm airing that on air with you and your listeners. And so, yeah, they've been very frustrated. And as I said before, a number of councillors have had the same sort of thinking about, well, if we do have the full council next Tuesday, why can't we get together and review this decision? And if the numbers are there, reverse it.
01:15:21
Speaker 6: So.
01:15:22
Speaker 9: If the other person is there at the next meeting, the vote last time was four to five. And if they side with you, it would still be five-five, giving the Lord Mayor the deciding vote. And if I'm correct, she actually spoke out against this motion or made some comments to the effect that she's not necessarily supportive of it.
01:15:41
Speaker 4: So you would think that she would side with your motion and it would be revoked.
01:15:45
Speaker 16: Yes, that's right. And if it's not mine, if someone else has lodged theirs earlier than mine, then that will be the decision. But I will just say this, Stacey. I think the devil will be in the detail. So I guess what I want to try and get out of it is a straight, simple reversal.
01:16:10
Speaker 12: That's what I want.
01:16:14
Speaker 16: What might happen is that if there are other motions that have been lodged or if there are amendments that might be circulating, what we might end up with is, and this is just me speculating, I don't know anyone that has done this, this is just me speculating, I don't want someone to come along and reverse parts of it but maintain parts of it and say, well, you know, let's let's not have this policy in place, but let's go and advocate to state government to look at a new sponsor or look at other options or something along those lines. This is just me speculating, but because I've been in that chamber long enough, I've seen all sorts of scenarios and something... in the back of my head is saying, well, this might be one of those scenarios where you might try and do something very simple and straightforward and simply reverse that decision. That's my intention. That's what I want to do. But I just have this feeling that some people will come along and say, well, we've taken this position before we fully reverse it. Let's explore other options. Let's see if we can corner state government or let's see what else we can get out of this. Yeah, so there'll be one to watch.
01:17:28
Speaker 4: Okay, well, we'll see how it goes. Armand, thank you for your time.
01:17:31
Speaker 16: Thank you.
01:17:37
Speaker 3: The unintended consequence of a council vote, well articulated by Armand, should be simple, may not be.
01:17:44
Speaker 4: Did they know and just not care, or did they not know? I don't know which is worse.
01:17:51
Speaker 3: Now, that's a great question. It's not the question for our talk back at 8.20 this morning, but it's certainly a debate– that is frankly depressing. This too was a little depressing. Here's one of our favourite sons, Anthony LaPaglia.
01:18:03
Speaker 7: Anthony LaPaglia has launched an astonishing attack on his hometown of Adelaide in his new memoir, labelling the city dreary, stifled and plagued by bad energy. In his new book, The Life We Choose, LaPaglia doesn't even get past the first page before he starts condemning the SA capital.
01:18:23
Speaker 13: He writes.
01:18:24
Speaker 1: Adelaide.
01:18:25
Speaker 7: There's a bad energy running through it. Whenever I go back, I feel the same low-frequency unease that used to spook me.
01:18:32
Speaker 8: As a kid.
01:18:33
Speaker 3: The low-frequency unease.
01:18:35
Speaker 8: Ouch.
01:18:36
Speaker 3: On 8223 0000, why is Adelaide boring? The wrong answers only edition.
01:18:41
Speaker 9: Let's all be inspired by Anthony.
01:18:45
Speaker 3: We'll be inspired by Anthony. Jess had a great suggestion straight off the bat when he wandered in.
01:18:49
Speaker 11: He said.
01:18:50
Speaker 3: why is Adelaide boring, wrong answers only? Because of all of its wine regions.
01:18:54
Speaker 29: Yeah.
01:18:55
Speaker 4: Why does it need so many beautiful wine regions?
01:18:58
Speaker 11: Snore.
01:18:59
Speaker 3: Why is Adelaide boring? 8223 0000, the wrong answers only. I've got one. Yeah.
01:19:04
Speaker 9: Because there's so much unnecessary space that you have to yourself at the beach.
01:19:09
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
01:19:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have the thrill.
01:19:12
Speaker 4: Who needs that much space when you go to the beach with your family? I'd much rather.
01:19:17
Speaker 3: Be- Of a towel next to someone else.
01:19:18
Speaker 4: Of a towel right next to someone else.
01:19:23
Speaker 3: I think Adelaide is boring because I'm sure there is equivalence right around the world to the visceral thrill of having someone drive the wrong way on the Oban track. I'm sure you can get that everywhere. I'm sure you can.
01:19:39
Speaker 17: Yeah.
01:19:40
Speaker 3: I'm sure this isn't the only place on earth where that level of hilarity can be meted out on a yearly basis. 8223 0000, why is Adelaide boring? The wrong answers edition. 044808 1395 or call us on 8223 0000. I like that. On another note, need to start a band called Low Frequency Unease.
01:19:58
Speaker 9: Low Frequency is how I felt when I was watching Anthony LaPaglia's most recent performance here in Adelaide.
01:20:06
Speaker 3: You're not going to be the pull quote on any– death of a salesman advertising campaign.
01:20:13
Speaker 9: You know how sometimes they have people doing boxies after the show, interviewing you.
01:20:17
Speaker 4: With your thoughts?
01:20:18
Speaker 9: I very much avoided that this time. I thought, no, I do not want to tell them what I think of this show.
01:20:23
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01:20:34
Speaker 2: As an antidote to Anthony Lopali's assertions about Adelaide being boring, and what was that wonderful turn of phrase?
01:20:40
Speaker 4: He used a place that has low frequency unease.
01:20:57
Speaker 3: We thought we'd do the Why Adelaide's Boring, Wrong Answers Only edition. So some good wrong answers coming through on the text line. Let's make some calls. Eugene in Athelstan, good morning. Why is Adelaide boring?
01:21:09
Speaker 14: Good morning. It's so boring because you can drive from the north of the suburbia to the south suburbia in 40 minutes. And it's terribly boring because you don't need four different toll accounts to do it.
01:21:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. That's really boring. It's so boring not having to have a toll account. Ben and Sky, why is Adelaide boring?
01:21:30
Speaker 30: Because it has a caller with lights mentality. You know, a small town mentality. Every approach and change is met with opposition, you know, whether it be the golf or, you know, the GP or even where the Crows want to build their home ground. You know, there's always a small-town attitude that, you know, every progress needs a small minority, you know, protest. And, you know, and same with Santos sponsoring.
01:22:04
Speaker 3: All right. Thank you, Ben. I think you've just done the literal version of the answer to the question.
01:22:08
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not wrong.
01:22:09
Speaker 3: I just had to disagree with it. It's not the wrong answers only version, though, but that's fine. Ben, thank you. 8223 0000 is the number. If you want to get on the line, we might give away a Dilmar teapot. What do you think? Dilmar on board, sponsoring the live stream this morning. David, why is Adelaide boring? The wrong answers only edition.
01:22:25
Speaker 15: Good morning, Will and Stacey. Adelaide's so boring. It's that boring that Teflon, Pete Malinowskis and Taxi Tom Turbo didn't have the gumption or the realisation that we're that boring that they didn't have to plan for corruption within the construction industry.
01:22:45
Speaker 3: Oh, you landed the plane there, David.
01:22:46
Speaker 4: Too boring for bikies.
01:22:48
Speaker 3: Too boring. They assumed we'd be too boring. No, no, I'll pay that. I wasn't sure mid-flight where we were going. David landed it. That was good. Michelle, why is Adelaide boring? The wrong answers edition.
01:23:02
Speaker 25: Adelaide is so boring with all the low-frequency special events we have constantly. All the festivals and fringes and WOMADs and... AusAsia festivals and all those sporting events constantly. You know, the live golf and the 500 and a great gather round.
01:23:26
Speaker 29: It's so boring.
01:23:26
Speaker 25: It's just so low frequency.
01:23:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, Michelle, you're spot on.
01:23:31
Speaker 3: Perfect. Well executed. Tony in two worlds. Why is Adelaide boring?
01:23:36
Speaker 18: Oh, it's so boring because of that. disgustingly un-picturesque cricket ground that we've got that no one would ever come from the Northern Hemispheres, is it?
01:23:47
Speaker 16: Yeah.
01:23:47
Speaker 18: You know, like we're never going to attract anyone with a horrible un-panoramic thing like that.
01:23:52
Speaker 30: Yeah.
01:23:53
Speaker 22: Yeah.
01:23:53
Speaker 3: It's a good point, Tony. It is pretty boring. I just want to put this out there. Anthony Lopali was a goalkeeper. Okay. Thoreau was a little different. No slander. No slander. I'm just saying, okay? It's like the drummer. You've got to put it through the filter, or as Kerry pointed out, you can't hear things through a lens, Will. Thank you, Kerry. It was a good point.
01:24:15
Speaker 10: You did say that.
01:24:16
Speaker 3: All right, we've got to filter it through the... He's a goalkeeper. Cathy in Theboden, good morning.
01:24:22
Speaker 23: Hi, guys.
01:24:22
Speaker 16: Well, you know, the Christmas pageant.
01:24:24
Speaker 22: How boring is that?
01:24:25
Speaker 16: You'd like to see happy kids smiling and writing chalk on the ground like.
01:24:30
Speaker 26: How boring.
01:24:31
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:24:31
Speaker 3: It's boring, isn't it?
01:24:32
Speaker 24: Yeah.
01:24:32
Speaker 3: It's boring singing.
01:24:33
Speaker 10: You're right.
01:24:33
Speaker 16: And the boring clown.
01:24:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
01:24:36
Speaker 10: Boring clown.
01:24:37
Speaker 4: Boring Father Christmas. Boring smiles on kids' faces.
01:24:41
Speaker 3: Someone here made the, who was the text that made a really good point earlier? It's the most boring, biggest pageant in the Southern Hemisphere.
01:24:50
Speaker 22: Yeah.
01:24:50
Speaker 19: Yep.
01:24:51
Speaker 3: Totally boring. Who wins the Dilmar teapot?
01:24:54
Speaker 8: I think.
01:24:55
Speaker 3: Nothing boring about that.
01:24:56
Speaker 20: No.
01:24:57
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Speaker 10: Cup a moment.
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Speaker 10: It's really good.
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01:25:16
Speaker 9: This is the sunset in paradise, not the breakfast in paradise.
01:25:19
Speaker 10: I couldn't find that yet.
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Speaker 4: I haven't had enough time.
01:25:21
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Speaker 4: But delicious. Smells like mango.
01:25:24
Speaker 9: Michelle in Norwood for her boring low-frequency list of events that happens in Adelaide.
01:25:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations, Michelle.
01:25:30
Speaker 8: Well done, Michelle.
01:25:31
Speaker 3: That was terrific. All right, 29 after 8, we'll take a break and we'll talk about the not-so-boring AI fine regimen that might be coming to a council area near you.
01:25:42
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01:25:51
Speaker 1: Will Goodings with Stacey Lee.
01:25:52
Speaker 5: This is 5AA Breakfast.
01:25:58
Speaker 3: 21 minutes to nine. We'd love your thoughts on this next story. 8223 0000 or text us on 048 08 13 95 because we've done a bit of work to this point in time on the AI car in the city that drives around picking up people for parking infractions and polling-wise, according to our unofficial data, it's about as popular as the bubonic plague. LAUGHTER And the other thing that's remarkable in the Tyser's reporting front page story today is that one in four of the fines that it's issuing have been torn up or have been defeated, which means there's probably more than 25% of the time it's wrong, accounting for people that don't ever bother doing it. Hasn't disturbed other councils, according to the Tyser's reporting, from pursuing the AI parking fine style of doing things. Mitcham, Salisbury, Burnside and Mount Barker Councils have, according to the TISER's reporting, all started initial trials of using vehicle-mounted cameras to monitor parking compliance. Dr Heather Holmes-Ross is the City of Mitcham Mayor. Mayor, good morning to you.
01:27:00
Speaker 15: Good morning, Will.
01:27:01
Speaker 13: Sorry, I'm a bit croaky.
01:27:02
Speaker 3: No, that's all right. So is that first point accurate? Are you guys looking at the AI-style car for parking infringements in the City of Mitcham?
01:27:11
Speaker 12: Yeah, we are.
01:27:11
Speaker 13: We're looking to trial the programs called AeroRanger. So while I can't comment on the Ty's article about the city of Adelaide, I can talk you through, you know, the reasons that we're looking at this in Mitcham. What we're hearing from our residents and what council's really trying to work with is the cost of living crisis that we're having. And so we're looking to trial any efficiencies that we can. And of course, having cameras on patrol cars and static cameras and being able to do your parking safely look at your parking infringements in this way, is an efficiency. And so we're very happy to trial it. The important thing about the AeroRanger is, though, that the fines aren't sent out by the program. They are always checked by a human. And that's really, really important. I think we don't want to hand over decision-making capacity to an AI. We really want a person to be the one that makes the final decision.
01:28:11
Speaker 9: That's the case for the Adelaide finds as well, though, in the city. There's a human oversight over it, but human oversight can't tell from a photo if that car was stopped there for 20 seconds or three hours, I guess, in a no-parking zone or otherwise, which I guess is the criticism of the Adelaide City Council's car as well.
01:28:32
Speaker 13: So the Aero Ranger works by driving along. It has the... technology that reads the number plate and then it assigns that car a GPS position. Then it comes around again and if that car has outstayed the parking length, that's when a fine isn't issued but that car is flagged. as an infringement. So I'm not sure what City of Adelaide technology is doing, but certainly ours wouldn't say you've been parked for too long unless it had proof that you had been parked for too long through that GPS data.
01:29:15
Speaker 9: So are you only, sorry, are you only going to find people when they've overstayed in a car park for too long or will it be looking at I don't know if a car is parked halfway across a driveway or if you're parked in a no-stopping zone.
01:29:31
Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely. It'll be used for that as well. And we have to think about why we have these parking rules, you know. An example, I suppose, is permit parking where you want, where people, while people, while we don't have a right to have a car park outside our homes, if you live, for example, near a hospital or a school, It's often there is parking, people parking all the time outside the front of your house and you don't want that. They shouldn't be there. So what you can do is load into the data all the people that have permits that should be there, sorry, loaded into the system so that if a car is picked up that shouldn't be in the zone, then that again is flagged. So yes, I can see where the issues are that if you just get a snapshot, you could be wrong. But that's why there is the oversight. And of course, these things do go wrong. And people can say to council that that wasn't right. And the city of Adelaide has said, yes, you're right, and have reversed, what was it, 25% of the fines. I think that's a good thing rather than a bad thing. You know, they're trialling something that could save people money via their rates. And when they make a mistake, they're righting that. I don't... I can't pick the problem.
01:30:50
Speaker 3: Okay. So I just want to take you back. You mentioned efficiencies at the start as one of the justifications for looking at this new technology. When you say that, is the efficiency that you no longer have to pay people and employ fewer people, or is the efficiency that the machinery levies more fines than people do, or is it both of those things?
01:31:10
Speaker 13: That's an excellent question. We don't go out there to fine people. What we're trying to do is make our streets safe. It would be brilliant if we never had to fine anyone because it would mean that everybody was obeying the rules. So that's not a thing that we want to raise revenue in that way. Also, when we talk about efficiencies in terms of... employing people, what we wouldn't do is not employ that person. There are bazillions of other things that people employed by councils could be doing which add more to our community than fining them. So if we can make efficiencies in terms of the number of people that are out there looking for traffic infringements, then maybe we can add people to the library staff or the community centres or something like that.
01:32:03
Speaker 3: Is that the commitment?
01:32:07
Speaker 13: At Mitchum, always. We're logging the hours that we save through AI.
01:32:13
Speaker 3: So there'll be no net loss in jobs as a result of this technology? I'm just trying to work out where the efficiency will come from. Because if it's not that, then the efficiency must be that it will levy more fines than a normal person would.
01:32:25
Speaker 13: Yeah, we don't want to sack people.
01:32:27
Speaker 15: We don't want to overtax our people.
01:32:30
Speaker 3: The efficiency is it will fine more people than have been fined before.
01:32:35
Speaker 19: Maybe.
01:32:35
Speaker 13: Well, if people are parking where they shouldn't be, yes, we're going to find them and we have a more efficient way of finding that. But that's not why we're doing it. We're not doing it to increase the finding revenue. We're doing it so that we can do the job more efficiently, which means that we can then put labour into a place where it's a better place.
01:32:56
Speaker 9: So you mentioned that you don't think what Adelaide City Council's doing is necessarily a bad thing.
01:33:01
Speaker 4: They're trialling something new that could reduce rates.
01:33:04
Speaker 9: Is that what the anticipation is, the expectation is in Mitcham? If there are more fines, if more people are caught doing the wrong thing and more money is paid by people paying those fines, will rates come down?
01:33:20
Speaker 13: That's one outcome, but as I was just saying, that's.
01:33:24
Speaker 12: Not our goal.
01:33:25
Speaker 13: Our goal is to, well, our goal is to be able to provide better services or reduce rates depending, but always would rather provide better services because in a cost of living crisis, it's better that Canada can provide all the things that people need. We're a great bulk provider of services. So a council may decide to put the efficiencies against rates or they might decide to do it that way but to someone else, to somewhere else, to another service. At Mitcham, we don't want to reduce employment. We would rather divert to another service.
01:34:08
Speaker 3: All right. Dr Heather Holmes-Ross, the City of Mitcham Mayor on the AI.
01:34:16
Speaker 3: Fines that will be coming, it will be coming to Mitcham. That was very much confirmed. You know what? Dr. Ross was willing to come on and actually talk and make the case. And we asked all the mayors and she was the one that was happy to come on. So, look, people aren't buying it for a start and nor the justification. And people hate this technology. That much has been established. But at the very least, someone was willing to come on and make the case.
01:34:43
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:34:44
Speaker 13: Yep.
01:34:44
Speaker 4: I'm wondering what the state government's doing about it.
01:34:47
Speaker 9: So when we were talking about this last week, I reached out to the state government to say, are you looking at a law change like they had in Sydney, which would prevent these types of fines from being issued, or at least fines having to be issued in a timely manner to stop people like Anne's daughter getting a fine? Anne sent us a text. She said, my daughter-in-law was reversing into a park from a no standing zone in Angus Street. She was in the no-standing zone for less than five seconds. The car went past.
01:35:14
Speaker 4: She got a fine.
01:35:16
Speaker 9: And this is where that car doesn't take in any context. A person walking past a– what are they called? A fine– I've just got sticker liquor in my head, but what's the official term?
01:35:27
Speaker 4: The person who issues the fines.
01:35:28
Speaker 8: A ranger.
01:35:28
Speaker 4: A parking ranger.
01:35:29
Speaker 6: Sorry.
01:35:30
Speaker 9: A walking past would see Anne's daughter-in-law in a no-standing zone purely for the reason of reversing into a car park.
01:35:39
Speaker 4: The car– doesn't see that or take in that context.
01:35:42
Speaker 3: We've got almost exactly that example from someone here who says, 3.55pm, collecting my kids from netball practice at St Joseph's Kingswood Primary School. I parked in the kiss and drop, not thinking as there were no cars around. $ 95 fine, no discretion, an opportunistic money grab. I'm a cop and I use common sense and discretion at all times with infringements. So that's someone whose job is in the enforcement of law, appreciating that the black and white... computer application of law is actually at odds with how we have the reasonable person test at all times.
01:36:18
Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
01:36:20
Speaker 3: Now, who's the reasonable person now?
01:36:24
Speaker 4: Well, if there's not a person, if it's a car.
01:36:26
Speaker 9: And sure, there'll be human oversight, but the human oversight will be a person.
01:36:30
Speaker 4: Looking at a picture.
01:36:31
Speaker 3: A still picture. It's not a video.
01:36:32
Speaker 8: A still picture.
01:36:33
Speaker 4: It's not a video.
01:36:34
Speaker 3: There's no explanation. There's no context.
01:36:36
Speaker 9: Even if it does eventually become a video, which I suspect is what will happen with these cameras as they advance, the video of a car driving past, from a car driving past rather, still can't take in the context of Anne's daughter-in-law using that no parking zone to reverse into a valid car park.
01:36:52
Speaker 3: That's right.
01:36:52
Speaker 4: This is not about efficiencies. This is about enforcement.
01:36:55
Speaker 3: Well, the efficiency is one of two things. You save money because you save people or you're making more money because you're reaping in more in fines.
01:37:01
Speaker 9: So I reached out to the state government to see if they're planning anything on this. That was a week ago. I'm yet to hear back. I'm hearing that they're still making calls about if there's going to be a change. But I think now that we've seen at least four other councils looking at the same thing Adelaide City Council is doing, I think the state government's hand will be forced and they'll have to act on this.
01:37:20
Speaker 3: Text lines in meltdown at the moment. We're going to get to some more of those in a moment. Let's check traffic first. The Toyota Land Cruiser 300 Performance Hybrid has arrived at Jarvis Toyota combining iconic strength with hybrid power.
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01:37:39
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01:37:43
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01:37:54
Speaker 4: Yep.
01:37:55
Speaker 3: Cherish every morning with your daily Dilmar tea. Enjoy the new English breakfast or paradise breakfast, Dilmar breakfast. making the world a better tea. We all need a cup of tea after that chat about AI cars. Marge in Hampstead Gardens, what did you make of it?
01:38:09
Speaker 22: I've got a solution for your problem.
01:38:11
Speaker 13: If you break the law, you won't.
01:38:12
Speaker 25: Get fined, will you?
01:38:14
Speaker 3: That's true.
01:38:15
Speaker 17: Yeah.
01:38:15
Speaker 8: That is true.
01:38:17
Speaker 3: Well, hang on. I suppose the problem with that, Marge, is that 25% of the cases, at very least, where this has been used, the people didn't break the law. But then they had to go to the.
01:38:26
Speaker 4: Oh, rubbish.
01:38:27
Speaker 29: That's rubbish.
01:38:28
Speaker 3: Well, that's a fact. That's a fact.
01:38:30
Speaker 25: Listen, are you a pedestrian walking along a footpath?
01:38:33
Speaker 22: These idiots backing out of their driveways.
01:38:35
Speaker 3: I'm not saying... I'm not saying no one's broken the law.
01:38:38
Speaker 29: Marge.
01:38:38
Speaker 3: Marge. We're not saying no one's broken the law.
01:38:41
Speaker 30: Go, Marge.
01:38:41
Speaker 6: Go, Marge.
01:38:42
Speaker 3: Go, Marge.
01:38:43
Speaker 6: Go, Marge.
01:38:44
Speaker 3: Yes, the world's full of idiots, Marge.
01:38:46
Speaker 22: Stop making excuses for them.
01:38:48
Speaker 8: Well.
01:38:49
Speaker 3: Marge, here's the thing.
01:38:50
Speaker 25: And just because that guy's a copper, why should he get leniency?
01:38:53
Speaker 27: Well, it was a girl.
01:38:55
Speaker 3: It was a girl for a start.
01:38:57
Speaker 8: Well, whatever.
01:38:58
Speaker 13: No difference from ordinary people.
01:39:00
Speaker 3: Marge, here's the thing. They're idiots, and they should all get fined. The problem is, at least 25% of the people who.
01:39:10
Speaker 3: What do you mean rubbish? That's an established fact. The city council will tell you that themselves.
01:39:14
Speaker 25: But you're making excuses for everybody.
01:39:17
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, Marge, Marge, Marge. These people have found guilt. Marge has hung up. Marge didn't want to hear it.
01:39:22
Speaker 4: She's not happy with you this morning.
01:39:25
Speaker 3: The post-truth world that some people want to live in. This is a fact.
01:39:29
Speaker 13: I know.
01:39:30
Speaker 3: And Marge will be upset when it happens to her.
01:39:31
Speaker 4: She has a point.
01:39:33
Speaker 9: There are people who do the wrong thing and I agree. If you park halfway over my driveway, I would like an AI car to go past and catch you doing that.
01:39:40
Speaker 10: Totally.
01:39:41
Speaker 9: I want to be able to get out of my driveway. But like Anne's daughter-in-law who was in a no parking zone for five seconds whilst reversing into.
01:39:47
Speaker 4: An actual parking car park.
01:39:50
Speaker 9: She shouldn't get fined, and she shouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of then trying to appeal the fine and going to council and writing a letter or whatever it is she's got to do because she didn't do anything wrong, and the council did the wrong thing by using this stupid form of technology.
01:40:03
Speaker 3: Patty just said, I think Marge has made the top five. I think that's right. The one thing I will say in complete agreement with Marge, and I said this to you off air, a better line for the councillors that want to pursue this would be to say, we have two revenue arms at our disposal. We can charge you based on your rates, based on the value of your property, or we can fine people. Would you prefer we recover that money from the people who aren't breaking laws and are just owning homes or from the people that are breaking laws? There are two options, so you pick. I think that's a better line. Now, I don't know. An AI car absent humanity and discretion feels like a bridge too far. But, yeah, all right.
01:40:43
Speaker 4: Now- Oh, I'm all hyped up now. I need another tea. That was good.
01:40:47
Speaker 3: Be like Marge.
01:40:47
Speaker 7: Thanks, Marge.
01:40:48
Speaker 3: Call in. Call in and have a go. It's good fun. It's good for you.
01:40:52
Speaker 4: Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
01:40:53
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Now, let's have a look at the fuel situation before we wrap things up this morning. It's better to be a member with RAA Road Service. The Ampol Edwards down South Road, $ 2.
01:41:02
Speaker 8: 14.
01:41:02
Speaker 3: 9 is the cheapest you'll find it. Otherwise, the Ugo Clearview Main North Road, $ 2. 18. 5. And Diesel, the Mobile Blair Athol Prospect Road, $ 2.
01:41:12
Speaker 8: 62. 5.
01:41:12
Speaker 3: I think we got a few top five moments away, which always makes Patty happy on a Monday.
01:41:18
Speaker 4: I need to finish my Dilmar today.
01:41:19
Speaker 26: Yes.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: Dilmar will make it too. See you tomorrow from six, folks.
01:41:25
Speaker 8: I was trying to.
01:41:26
Speaker 1: Find my way along But all I heard was a drone Bouncing off.
01:41:32
Speaker 8: A satellite
01:41:35
Speaker 3: All right, take us through Monday and a little bit of the week, Paddy.