FIVEAA Breakfast with David & WIll - 18 August 2025

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Speaker 3: Today live from Heinmarsh Square. It's five double A Breakfast David Penberthy and Will Goodings.
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Speaker 2: Six after six. Good morning to you and welcome on Monday. At five Double A Breakfast. It is the eighteenth of August, and do we have a lot to talk about on the program this morning? Very shortly, we're going to spend just a little tenzy winchy little bit of time reflecting on the Crow's win over Collingwood on Saturday night. Lots to come out of that game, with some big breaking news overnight too that may have ramifications for the Crows September push. Then a little bit later in the morning, we're off to edith Burg, not to talk about the algal bloom, but to talk about the Vietnam Veterans Day. There's a warm moil aping today in edith Burg, so good news story looking forward to that. There were some issues at Atlaida on Saturday night about movement of crowds and videos up afterwards of essentially a crowd crunch the likes of which we've not really seen it at laid Over before Nick Addison, the CEO of the The Oval, will join us. Also, biggest story in state politics over the weekend, and perhaps it's worst kept secret, Frank Pangalo will be running for the Libs and the seed of Weight. He'll be joining us after seven o'clock today. Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't miss Stephen Robe. And also why a high profile court case in Victoria has led to diminishing mushroom sales here in South Australia. We'll get into that a little bit later. David Penberthy, good.
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Speaker 4: Morning to you, Good morning folks, good morning. Well, you can't buy death caps in the shops. No, It's that simple. If you go to the Central Market, you go to any store and say I'd like to make an Aaron Patterson inspired beef Wellington, do you have deathcap mushroom and.
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Speaker 2: Got a red button under the bench for that? Without that specific request. Seriously, what are people thinking?
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Speaker 3: Is this is this?
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Speaker 2: How is it at toilet paper? Panic star? But is it?
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Speaker 4: Is it? This?
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Speaker 2: This is the algor put, isn't it? Well? Yeah, because this is where intellectually we'll go. No I'm not going to but you just there's something that connects desire for food that goes beyond knowing whether it's safe or not. It's like, does it just take the edge off dwifle. If I've seen in the news every night pictures of beef Wellington's associated with murder, I don't necessarily think buying mushrooms is going to kill me. Yeah, just might shave five percent off the level of desire.
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Speaker 4: Well, when you psychologically and you see Exhibit F or whatever it was, the photograph of her beef Wellington, Oh, wasn't it hot? It was really it was something else, wasn't it. But the thing is, you know what it did. But I think you're right about the visuals of the beef Wellington when you actually think even cooking it for friends at the moment, like if you had your friends over, make sure of matching plates, that's right, don't have the coloricated ones. One of our good mates he made us beef Wellington a couple of years ago, and I was during the trial well the day that the photo came came out.
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Speaker 2: I texted him and his head but I got to say, yours looking out a lot better than hers did.
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Speaker 4: But I'm sure, I'm sure that people listening who've made beef Wellington and I have a privately jump with their friends about it.
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Speaker 2: I reckon beef Wellington's awesome, and I have no fear of eating one that it will kill me. But I haven't had a great desire to go in order one. I don't really get it as a recipe.
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Speaker 4: I think it's so hard to make well, Yeah, because it can get it can get snodgy, it can get sloppy, or the meat can get overcooked or undercooked or undercooked.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many things that can go wrong if done right, fantastic. Yeah, well this made it out.
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Speaker 4: He absolutely nailed it and had this source on the side and a little jug like a like a proper jo that he just poured onto it. And the spinach layer or the spinach sort of wrapping was superb. The mushroom duct cells its name, was not too not too dry, but not too moist, and best of all, non toxic.
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Speaker 2: So we all lived to good.
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Speaker 4: I got to say in a split second last night, will and tell me if you felt the same way. Did that residual sense of joy from Saturday night? The excitement about the fact that the mind of Premiership is all but locked in and regardless of what happens next weekend, the Crows are going to get two guaranteed home finals. The double chance sitting pretty finally shaken the Collingwood who doo. But just as I was going to bed last night and I went, please please tell me this isn't happening.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, because you go to bed later than I do, so I had that same phenomen happened about five am this morning when you were the best coorting. Actually I had no idea. The allegation to which David speaks is one that's in the ties of this morning that speaks to an allegation unproven at this point, but an allegation that Isaac Rankin may have made a homophobic slur to a Collingwood player, and that the reporting is saying that the AFL is likely to get involved, and that comment concerns that doesn't see It doesn't feel speculative. It feels like this is the story that was written ahead of this all becoming very very official. Well, it's written by.
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Speaker 4: John Ralph and John Ralph is a very plugged in Melbourne based AFL writer who does a lot of coverage of tribunal type stuff and when he gets these stories, he gets them right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. So it's not something that someone's lifted off Bigfooty. You know.
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Speaker 4: This is someone who's got very much connection into AFL house. And he's also got no agenda. He's not a crowze basher like some of them over there. He's a good journey. So that's that's one troubling.
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Speaker 2: Part of it.
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Speaker 4: So it's got credibility on account of who wrote it. The thing that's troubling too is that if even any suggestion that happened, and let's not jump to conclusions it might not have happened. Please, please, please, may the Almighty ensure that it didn't happen, that it's all some terrible misundunderstanding. That would be great, But history, recent history tells us if any even remotely like this happened, we're talking weeks, Well, yeah we are.
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Speaker 2: So there's multiple facets to this. There's the nature of these sorts of slurs that the AFL is trying to root out, I think quite rightly. And secondary to that is the ratifications for the Adelaide Football Club with regard to what would mean for September, Because if there is precedent here, and this is the AFL. They're not like a court, they're not bound by They do whatever though they wanted any given moment. Will Powell got five games for a homophobic slur. Jack Graham's self reported the Eagles former Richmond play Eagle playing. He put his hand up and said, I did it. Got four weeks. Jeremy Finlayson got three weeks, so admitting to it. The discounts four weeks was one week. Yeah, five down to four for admitting to it during Finlayson got three. But then because other incidents came to light after, they started getting more punitive and it became.
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Speaker 4: A case of listen, you saw what happened to Jeremy Finlayson. You went and did it anyway, So we're going to send an even stronger message. He got three, you're getting four, you're getting five. So it's not a downward trend, is it too? He's an RBA type term.
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Speaker 2: No, it's an upward But you always get into these situations of this time of year, where is a finals game worth more than a minor round game, and all that kind.
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Speaker 4: Of stuff starts factoring into the there's a lot of other fingers toes cross scenarios. Someone misheard something. Hopefully somebody made it up. That wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened.
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Speaker 2: I hope that's all true. Yeah, yeah, I hope it's true for the Crows sake, Gupe, it's true for Isaac's sake. I hope it's true for everyone who loves watching him in the team play footage sake. Yeah. Yeah, because these things have a You make these comments and they stay with you, they follow you for the rest of your career.
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Speaker 4: It's just invariably what happens people. Yeah, well it's like, yeah, I did. I mean, yeah, poor Jeremy Philhayson, that's that's you did a word association game exactly. Non import fans. What can you tell me about him? For a lot of people, first, the only thing that they'd.
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Speaker 2: We sell that reiterating they're not the victim, like no, it's it's people watching that you know, you're trying to create an inclusive environment in the AFL for everyone who watches and everyone who loves the game, and they're the victims potentially in this kind of thing. And this is the thing.
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Speaker 4: How I mean, you know, as I said, hopefully this is just somehow all going to blow over. But it's sad that anything could detract from the night, the game itself and the result, Oh my goodness, how good was it. So when the siren went, we're in the comtentry box, obviously, and I said this, and I think, and I tried to say to ROWI I like, this is not hyperbole.
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Speaker 2: The box shook and I don't mean it. Oh, the glass was reacting to the sneund and it was reverberating a little bit like it might, you know at a concert when people start going berserk. It was shaking side to side and gave the impression that the entire members stand was in motion. I've never felt anything like at Adelaide Oval in my life. It was the loudest, most extraught because you know what the end of that game represented it. We'll get into this more thoroughly with Sport and Row in an hour's time. It wasn't just a close win. It wasn't just a close win that secured top two. It was a close win that secured top two against the side who everyone there had witnessed devastating losses against in those specific scenarios for a period of a decade repeatedly and many at that ground, like the combination of relief and exhilaration and revenge, like it was a pit of emotions that all combined and damn near the roof of the stadium. It was unbelievable. Yeah, it was one hell of a night. It was quite Extordinty nicely put sixteen after six, we're back with more in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 2: Eighty minutes after six. There was a not really nice We were speaking of the footyo over the weekend, and it leads us into a question. We would ask you this morning at eight double two three, double O, double O, who was your childhood hero? And you're a little kid when you're a loving sport for the first time, who was your hero? Because sometimes it's not how you would necessarily expect. Taylor Walker's kids the pregame this this terrific video that's up on social media. Who they really wanted to meet Nick Dakos before the go. It's a great video. It's actually brilliant because Taylor Walkers walks his kids past the Collingwood locker room at Adelaide Oval and they're so excited because they look it in there, and then they get Nick Dakos to come out, who spends a couple of moments with him. It's just a horrific It's what Foot's about. The kids. Yeah, we're a little a little confused about who they're going for in the night when Nick said who who do you want to win? When they were in the crows gear, But they were soap up to see him because he's they just love him. So we're asking you at eight double two three double o, double o? Who is it that was your childhood hero when you were growing up? Could be any sport you like? Eight double two three double o double oh is the number? Or Texas on zero before zero right? Thirty ninety five.
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Speaker 4: A lot of feedback already about the homophobic slur situation. One he again from Campbelltown, says, was this alleged slur in fact rank and singing to himself a Snoop Dogg lyric. I don't know if Snoop Dogg's well homophobic centainly a bit misogynistic. Don't know about the homophobia stuff, but thank you for that Cam. Keep him coming. We're going to cross now to Lauren Tamasi in Washington for nine years. Obviously, the weekend was dominated by the discussion around the meeting between Putin and Donald Trump, which appears so far will to we'll resolve nothing. It's resolved nothing.
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Speaker 2: It's raised some big questions about Donald Trump and what he managed to extract from that meeting as well. Let's head to Washington now, Lauren to Marci fort nine joins us sport, is you, Lauren, hey, Davon Will what's what's the fallout being, because it doesn't seem like we're that much closer to peace in Ukraine.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think there was so much expectation going into that Alaska meeting of what Donald Trump would come away with, and certainly the US President said that if he wasn't happy with how the meeting was going, that he was going to walk, but we very much saw that that wasn't the case. Instead, he came outside by side with Putin and gave that short press conference if you didn't call it that because the pair didn't take questions, and it is on social media saying that it was a great success. But the reality is we are no closer to any kind of ceasefire, and now the US President says he no longer wants to cease fire, he wants to show straight to a peace still and all while that is happening, the fire continues in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: Well, and that was Putin's position going into the meeting, no cease far preceding a deal. So then there's the meeting with Zelensky today and it's going to be backed by a lot of European leaders.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like Lauren, Yeah, this is quite extraordinary. So this will happen tomorrow at the White House. So in a matter of hours, really Wadmews Zelensky will come to the Oval Office. He's going to be backed up by as many as half a dozen European leaders. That includes Kio Sarma from the UK, Emmanuel Makwan, the German and Finnish prime ministers, along with the leader of the European Commission. An enormous amount of power coming from Europe to kind of flank load of new Zelensky as he comes into the Oval Office. Because the last time we saw the Ukrainian leader inside with Donald Trump, it was an absolute disaster. You had the US President him as he sat there and it was such a heated heated moment, So certainly they will all be hoping that this is a very different story when they come to this meeting tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: So, Lauren, are these European leaders going to physically be there standing by Zelenski?
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Speaker 2: Is that how it's going to play out?
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Speaker 1: That is exactly right, which is really quite an extraordinary thing in itself, Like we haven't seen this many leaders converge in the Oval Office for quite some time, backing up Zelenski as well, So all of them will be flying in. I can tell you that Washington, DC will be locked down for all of these leaders arrivals. We haven't got a timeline yet, but so far, the understanding from the White House is that there will be some kind of one on one talk between Donald Trump and Zolensky and of course their two respective sides, before there will be a longer and larger format meeting with all of the European leaders who have been pushing so hard for a feaspire. And it is really that divide your kind of thing between Europe and the United States, which was, you know, I want such strong allies. But it seems in many ways Donald Trump is beginning to lean towards Putin in some respects like asking Ukraine to give up some level of territory.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's gonna be fascinating to see that meeting on fold. Lauren to Marci there for nine News in Washington, thanks for that report this morning.
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Speaker 2: It was a remarkable spectacle on Saturday morning. Wasn't that incredible? I thought it started well for the US that I thought the B two flyover was a nice touch. As Peutin was getting off his plane walking on the red carpet. It' a B too stealth bomber, full overhead information with two that looked like F thirty five. I'm not sure what they were, which was great, but that was the last shove of strength in the US at that meeting. Didn't feel like Putin walked away particularly concerned about anything that had taken place in that meeting. Apparently there's the concession that's coming out now today that he made was that he's allowing the US to provide whatever's left of Ukraine in a security guarantee.
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Speaker 4: Which means that they would have NATO style protection, yes where there could be a combined response by Western allies to any external attack on that's right, whatever Ukraine now looks like hasn't it occurred to Trump though, that the position he is now advocating is pretty much the one that was being sought.
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Speaker 2: By Putin two days ago. It's the one hundred percent the position that Putin was seeking. Hopefully the Finnish Prime Minister can get in his ear. He's I read this really interesting article of the weekend. He became really good mates with Trump through golf because he went as a as a as a teenager. He's a really good.
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Speaker 4: Golf for himself, and he went on a golf scholarship to study at university somewhere in I think North Carolina, like at Duke or something like that. So he knows heaps.
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Speaker 2: About the US.
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Speaker 4: But he's a real European, you know, very given Finland's history hugely anti anti Russia and was in instrumental in Finland only recently joining NATO after the invasion of Ukraine. Well, hopefully he and he's the Trump whisperer, well Europe, he needs to do some whispering because that's terrifying.
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Speaker 2: It was not higher than Donald Trump's most impressive moments. Saturday Morning, Our Time, Nah twenty six, after six The Royal Show tickets we've got this morning. If you're ready to go, it's time for the Royal Ladelaide Show all week. We've got family passes to give a way for you had head along. Just give us a call now and you can get tickets at the show dot com dot a you and Foodland of course as well. We're asking you to tell us about your sporting hero. We had that lovely moment pregame on Saturday night Taylor Walker's kids met their sporting hero. You think it might be their dad, No, it was the person he was playing against, Nick Daikos on Saturday night. John and Porteragusta was your sporting hero growing up?
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Speaker 6: Oh right fellas, Yeah a great foe. Make Caddon just just a great footballer. But that's so bloody gentlemen. Yeah, coo a right for this day. Great plans are xcfons Alport Magies three times a rustle was Isaac Cors who was great brumily these boats. But Buck is my first yeah and a three time premiership captain. I think he could possibly one day give his trowing football fiber. Absolutely loved him. Is a fire body. Gentlemen.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, can't you John? Get on your John your and the running to win the Family Show tickets. Have the Royal Show tickets, Marke the Family parts of the Royal Show. Eight double two three double a double. I was the number of Texas on the Police Home Care text lines here before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 4: I like this one from Kevin Man. And my childhood hero was Eddie Cholton. My father and I always watched Wow Black back in the seventies one on the ABC. That was a wonderful, wonderful show Pop Black. Yeah, they're reading Hurricane Higgins, all the big names.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's have a look at the weather. It is seriously cold outside at the moment five point nine degrees in Adelaide as we speak, heading for the top of sixteen today. It's actually a w that's a little different to what we've had all of a sudden because it's absent any rain on the forecast, So sixteen and Driturday seventeen, Tomorrow nineteen, on Wednesday, Thursday, the warmest of the days this week twenty eighteen, on Friday, sixteen, on Saturday and Sunday seventeen. Saturday and Sunday might have a mill of rain, but it's forty percent on Saturday and thirty percent on Sunday, so quite dry, quite mild. That said, spare of thought the Productivity round table that starts tomorrow minus three point nine in Canberra. I don't know how he can turn your mind to productivity when you're freezing. Your extremities are currently in a state of hypothermia. They sh'd start at like eleven am.
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Speaker 4: Give people a chance to at least be warm enough to be productive. Thought, why do we put camera where it is? I'm trying to try Melbourne and Sydney from biggering about it, but you know, surely the other ways of solving that problem.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't make for people. I know you've lived in camera. You said it's actually nicer than people think. For people who haven't been there, it doesn't make the prospect of ning politics any more appetizing. No, the thing about the camera.
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Speaker 4: Winter is actually not too bad in camera because you know it does what you expected to do. Summer is terrible with it because there's no escape and it gets really hot and there's so many flies. It flies everywhere in camera in summertime, and you just, as a South Australian thing, I just wish I could get to the beach, and you know that's right. It's an hour and a half strive from here. So and even when you get there to Bateman's bathe of a beach either, you've got to keep going and get to a good one.
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Speaker 2: There's a bit of other sporting news around the place. We have spent a bit of time on that Isaac Rank and alligation. Indeed, the Crows win on the weekend, but there's some other little headlines that we'll just to quickly get to before we get to five to blow news, Agastina. It's a bushy overstocked with demos that must be cleared upgrade your vehicle today. Nailsworth and Mowson Lakes can't believe Oli Wines has gotten three weeks oh for our man Ollie for a bump that he executed on the weekend. Now, by the book, people say elected the bump and the guy ended up concust. But I'll tell you what I was. It was the meakest bump I've ever seen, and the guy wasn't cancust for an hour and a half.
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Speaker 4: So I watched the replay and I was going heng which bit of this is the offending bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now the club's going to work out where they can contest the suspension or not. I guess did it want it carrying over in the next year, you might as well, You might as well contest it. He'll missed the Kennicley farewell game of course as well, someone who's played under his boat his career, and he's the Travis Boke farewell game. More pointedly, somebody's played with his entire career. So otherwise, Chris Scott was furious about the quality of the sec G pitch. He said it looked like Mumbai, so I it was a raging turner and overnight congratulations of the Boomers too won their third consecutive Asian Cup, defending China by one point in Saudi Arabia. Five Double News coming up back with more short.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Wild Goodings five Double A Breakfast twenty five to Seve, But ask you about your sporting heroes this morning.
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Speaker 2: One of Taylor Walker's sons who loves Nick Daikos meet him pregame terrific little bit of social media content and inspired by that and our desire to celebrate families as well with our Royal Show Family Pass we're asking you to nominate your sporting heroes. Eight double two three A double O double. When you're a kid, you know that sort of appeared someone was just they could do no wrong in your eyes. You can text us then to police home Care text lines before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five.
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Speaker 4: Craigan only has picked Dennis Linley. Growing up in those early days of the World Series, cricket was great, especially the rivalry with the Windys, Jay and Croydon, says Gary maca. Macintosh was my sporting hero. He's one of the few SA NFL players I reckon a lot of other club supporters would say grudgingly was one of their favorite players as well, even though didn't play for them. Unbelievable and so Daniel says. My son's childhood hero is Isaac Rankin. This could be an interesting week, indeed, it could, Sue and Henley. We'd like to hear from other people here about the crowd concerns. I didn't have any issues walking back out. We came out on the eastern side, headed towards the the not the footbridge, the old bridge, and while it was it was packed, it it was fine. Sue says, she was at a at at the Queen Concert, saying that while the crowd there was smaller, not all of the gates were opened to the exit, and the crush behind the riverbank stand in the exit of the plaza was very scary. That's where you've got everyone coming in from all different directions. That's where it can become a bit of a bottleneck there. Nick Addison of the Adelaide was going to join us to talk about precisely that issue at about fifteen minutes time.
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Speaker 7: The Townsville line the foot paths as we marched down to the key, this clipping from the paper shows as a young and strong and clean and there's me in miss lauchatl greens God bel men.
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Speaker 2: I was n John Schuman is going to be playing a little bit later today with the Vagabond Crew, a concert with special guests in edith Burg because today they're opening the Vietnam War Memorial walk Edithburgh to Kebowie on the York Peninsula today. Notable, of course it's Vietnam Veterans Day in Australia, and in Australia the date where we celebrate Vietnam's veterans. Vietnam Veterans remember their service is to coincide with the Battle of Long Tan, of course, which was the single deadliest engagement to that point that the Australian Task Force had faced in Vietnam, and it's kind of a nice nice is the wrong term. It's a fitting battle to think about reflect on the context of Vietnam veterans because at the time it was seen as a loss, and at the time Vietnam veterans weren't particularly well so lebrated in this country. In fact, it was how they would treat it was a disgrace totally. But subsequently when people went back and looked at the numbers, how many Vitcong they are engaged with at that point in time, the strategic importance of where they were and the nature of that ambush and the lack of warning. Strategically it was a victory. And the journey of the analysis of that battle in some ways mirrors the journey of Australia reflecting on the service of Vietnam veterans, which we do a lot better now in twenty twenty five than we did a long time ago, and that continues today. In Edithburg, they've got a terrific Iroquois helicopter that's going to be there as well from the Historic Aircraft Restoration Society in New South Wales. They've got a whole collection from nine Squadron as well. Let's go to Roger Hogben, the Vietnam War Memorial Walk founder, who joins us on five double a breakfast. Roger, Good morning to.
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Speaker 8: You, Oh, good morning.
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Speaker 9: It's great to be with you.
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Speaker 4: Great to have you on Roger. Can I just ask what why, Edith Burg, what's the what's the sort of your peninsula focus for this memorial?
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Speaker 2: How's that come about?
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Speaker 10: Well, really, I suppose the question would be why not. It's interesting because Vietnam was the era of conscription where young men were invested not by a choice, but because of the ballot and they were set off to fight in Vietnam. And so consequently every community and right across Australia was affected, particularly by the Vietnam War through those National servicemen that were called up. So to put these sorts of memorials in rural areas or regional is really important. That there's not many of them.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're right, And when you look at things up the coverage of ANJEC day, it's all like, you know, here's Martin Place and here we are in Kintore Avenue. But often the smaller memorials in country towns actually can tell a more moving and also a vaster story about the scale of the sacrifices. When you see from the Great War in World War Two, some of the same family names coming up on those memorials, that the little memorials are more evocative in a way.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, there are small memorials in every community across the country and it's really important. The thing about Vietnam was that there are very few memorials outside of capital cities or very large cities. The opportunity was there to do something. It's fifty years in the end of Australia's involvement in Vietnam, so we consider that it was time to do something because as time goes on there are fewer and fewer of the veterans left.
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Speaker 2: Roger I mentioned the Iroquois, the helicoptera he got from New South Wales. How did that come about?
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Speaker 10: Came about through the sound of the iroquoiss or the hill. He is synonymous with Vietnam and every soldier that served in Vietnam either loved it or hated it, depending on whether you were going out or whether you were coming home to the base. So it was the sound of that Heroquois is quite different to any of the modern helicopters. When it arrived here the other day, we could hear it when it was ten kilometers out. Wow, so very very distinctive sound. There are only a couple of these helicopters flying, and this one was originally delivered to nine Squadron in Vietnam in nineteen seventy so it's a very important aircraft.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's a fantastic thing, Roger, And I'll tell you what too. One other added bonus of this happening is it's going to be it's going to be good for eat just burged to be in the news for something not related to the algill bloom because it's been at the epicenter of that for the last five months. Great that you're doing this, Roger Hogen, the founder of the Vietnam War Memorial Walk.
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Speaker 2: On Vietnam Veterans Day, the eighteenth of August, let's take some nominations for sporting heroes when you were a kid. We've got a Royal Show family past to give away. Simon is on the line, Simon, good morning. Who'd you grow up loving.
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Speaker 11: Back in the day when all those great tennis matchers destroy in Australia was in the speaker. That's powers with Kenny Rosewall. Unbelievable, little guy. I don't know what five pot something. I forgets all those mega stars and didn't win all the time, but you won't enough and you know, Grand slammed Davis a couple all that stuff. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the record which just looks it looks like it's been made up when you're a Ken Roosewall's.
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Speaker 11: Record, it is, and it was sensational viewing. It's just just so person with the Walls, it was just so Yeah, good guy.
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Speaker 2: Good nomination, Simon, thanks for that. Ken Roseby keeping coming in eight double two three double o double, you can textus as well on zero four eight zero eight, thirteen ninety five. Grand Slams won the Australian Open fifty three, fifty five, seventy one and seventy two, the French Open in fifty three and sixty eight, Wimbledon fifty four, fifty six, seventy and seventy four, and the US Open in fifty six and seventy.
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Speaker 4: So okay, what are the Wolden US fifty three, fifty four, fifty six seventy seventy four, so twenty years apart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty years apart. It's amazing, isn't it. Yeah? What a legend. Yeah, magnificent. All right, where you might check traffic. We'll take a quick great police and wear the coming up. Also, if you were caught in the crowd crush at Adelaide Oval on Saturday night, give us a buzz some of the video doing the rounds. It does look it's it's pretty scary when you're stuck in that large group of people and nobody feels like they can move, and then suddenly the loots is one direction and you move that way whether you want toward or not. That's what happened. We're going to try to get to at the bottom of why. In part we know the reason. It was the record crowd at the ground. It's some fifty four thousand people there. But we're going to be speaking with the Adelaide obill shortly. You might have a question of your own about what you saw. We would love to hear from you. Eight double two three double O double oh or textus on the Police Home Care text line. In the meantime, we will check traffic for the very first time this morning. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufacturing and installed locally by Louver House, David.
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Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings five double a breakfast twelve.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: To seven start of the program too. But the fact is cold out there. It's not gotten any warmer. It's currently five point eight degrees. Interesting week of weather ahead to Chris Kent at the Bureau Joints Upborning. Hey, Chris, morning, guys. How are you Yeah, we're well, a little bit cool. Is it going to be this way for most of the mornings this week? Do we think?
00:31:53
Speaker 12: Yeah? I think we can expect some pretty cool mornings least until Wednesday morning to the next couple of mornings. Pretty clear and calm in the morning during the morning hours, so yeah, those temperatures are expected to drop quite low. We've actually seen well actually sitting sort of below one degree out at Parafield at the moment, so yeah, very cool out there in the morning. Temperature wise, during the afternoon though, we will see maximum temperatures of sixteen degrees across Adelaide today the temperature trend is starting to increase in terms of maximums. This week pretty sunny conditions and by Thursday we could see temperatures up around twenty degrees again with another sort of their spring like day. But yeah, those cool mornings are expected to continue till probably around yea I said Wednesday before the sort of those minimums becoming a bit more respectable in the morning, I guess. But yeah, otherwise, not looking at much rainfall at all this week. Best chance it's probably maybe Friday into Saturday with the next cold front that's moving across the bikes, and even with that doesn't look back at this stage there's going to be much of rainfall in that, so looking at a reasonably dry week ahead.
00:33:15
Speaker 4: Good stuff, Chris, Thanks for that very comprehensive report. Chris Kent from the Weather Bureau.
00:33:18
Speaker 2: All right to say, Poul Accounstable Liam Bennett joins us Land there's been an attempted arson at Woodville South.
00:33:24
Speaker 13: Good morning, gents. Yes, just before four point thirty this morning, police and fire crews were called support road following reports of a fire. Firefighters arrived to find the front of a business a light which they quickly extinguished, preventing significant damage. The Western District Detectives and crime scene investigators have attended the scene and the fire is being treated as suspicious. The investigation is still ongoing and anyone with information is asked to come forward to crime Stoppers online or via free call one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero.
00:33:55
Speaker 2: Liam.
00:33:55
Speaker 4: Also a car's been hit by a tree in Poir of Hills overnight.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, very lucky escape for a driver as he was going west along Williamson Road at Para Hills. That was about twelve fifteen this morning when a large tree fell on the bonnot of his Mitsubishi Lancer. The twenty three year old Para Hills man. He was miraculously not injured and he was checked over by paramedics at the scene and the tree completely blocked the road, with our colleagues at the MFS and SEES working quickly to cut that one up and remove it as quick as possible, and the road has since reopened and the man's car was towed from the scene.
00:34:31
Speaker 4: And also Liam has been a serious crash at sin Kilda yes just.
00:34:36
Speaker 13: Before four pm yesterday. Police and emergency crews were called to Saint Kilda Road at Saint Kilda after a single vehicle crash involving a holden. The driver, a twenty nine year old Salisbury north Man, was taken to hospital with life threatening injuries, but we can update now this morning that his condition is now being considered as stable. His vehicle was towed from the scene after the road was closed for several hours, and the investigations are ongoing. And we just ask anyone who witnessed the crash who has not yet spoken to police to again contact Crime Stoppers on one eight hundred triple three, triple.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: Zero, consortably a minute from Stapaul. Thanks for joining us this morning. All right, let's revisit Saturday night Adelaide Oval. Not the on field exploits of the Adelaide Football Club, but rather what happened in the crowd. A record crowd of fifty four thousand, two hundred and eighty three people, and in some parts it felt more of a record than others. Take this bit of video and audio from a crowd crush at the game was more than just packed. People literally couldn't move from where they were. They were stuck to the spot and they were being moved around by the surging crowd around them. That was quite scary. Tech. We've got a couple of texts on this this morning. One here on the Police Home Care text lines says, I was there. It was so bad. Security just stood watching the stairs. Kids were getting pushed, men were shoving their way through. It was scary and once you're in there was no going anywhere and I'm miss the first bounce. Poor management. Another one here says, sorry.
00:36:04
Speaker 4: I know a couple of people who missed the first bounce. Yeah, then they got their fifteen minutes before they couldn't get in.
00:36:09
Speaker 2: Dave says, how can a stadium with the capacity of fifty three thousand exceed that number by fifteen hundred. That's a good question for the Adelaide Oble CEO Nick Addison, who joins us on five Double A Breakfast. Nick, good morning to you, Gay Will Pembo.
00:36:22
Speaker 9: Good to be with you, Hey, Nick.
00:36:23
Speaker 4: We do preface all this by saying that these are nice problems to have. I mean, it was an absolutely incredible night and overwhelmingly people thrilled to be part of it. But it does sound like there are a few issues that have emerged that you guys need to look at.
00:36:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's that's right.
00:36:40
Speaker 14: I guess what happens. I mean, as you said, it was an incredible night, and I mean the whole precinct under a bit of pressure, whether it's the public transport or car parks or entry as people say. So on nights like this, you definitely learn some things about the venue. So congestion in some area is what was a challenge. It was relatively brief, but no doubt you can you can learn some things when the venue is under that sort of pressure.
00:37:08
Speaker 4: To that question from the listener though, how is it if we're told that the official capacity is fifty three five hundred, how do we end up at fifty four to eighty? How does that actually come about?
00:37:20
Speaker 14: Yeah, it comes down because we're a multipurpose venue, so our capacity actually varies by format. And if you think about some of the historic events that we've had at that laid over, I mean that the venues handled close on seventy thousand previously the Stone and so you know, and then it's different again for cricket with site screens and you've got the village green out the back and so forth. So the capacity we fortunately do have some flexibility on them, particularly because we have more standing room than most venues around the country as well, So whilst we absolutely do need to be vigilant on it, we were comfortable we were well within the of safety on Saturday night.
00:38:01
Speaker 2: So as configured for an AFL match, what is the capacity?
00:38:05
Speaker 14: You're probably pushing a bit north of where we were on Saturday night in terms of sort of the fifty five thousands. But look, finals is different again in that every seat is ticketed and reserved for the upcoming finals, so you know that'll be a bit different for the two home finals that the Crowser had to what we had on Saturday night.
00:38:24
Speaker 2: So given what we now know, because it's not as every week you get fifty four thousand, But if next Saturday night, say we could reasonably forecast a similar crowd, what would you do differently to just not have those kind of issues that some of our listeners have identified.
00:38:40
Speaker 14: I think there's a couple of things. Will one, we do continue to push the message around arriving early for big games, and that just staggers the pressure. So that's probably our number one hope that people do heed that advice and arrive early. But we appreciate. The reality is not everyone can. Whether it's you know, kids, sport commitments, or family commitments, or work or whatever. Some people are going to have to arrive late, and it's our job to try and get them in as quickly as we possibly can. The other thing, we'd probably say as well around where some of that vision was on the Eastern concourse, where were also some learnings for us about encouraging people to continue to move along and keep it a thoroughfare rather than gathering. And that can happen in big games. People want to catch up with mates or find people they're sitting with, or whatever the case may be. But we found there was a bit of gathering as opposed to treating that concourse as a thoroughfare, and that falls back to us to continue to help people on their way.
00:39:38
Speaker 2: Has the lack of trams caused any headaches for you guys, n't it?
00:39:43
Speaker 15: Not?
00:39:43
Speaker 8: Really?
00:39:45
Speaker 14: It sort of does put a little bit more pressure on the precinct because it is just another means of getting people in and.
00:39:52
Speaker 2: Out more taxis and sort of stuff.
00:39:55
Speaker 14: Yeah, correct, correct, that's where it puts a bit more pressure on the precinct.
00:40:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:40:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, as I said, it was an amazing night and the Ovals never looked better. But yeah, obviously a few people had a couple of moments they understand they didn't enjoy. Nick Addison, the CEO of the Adelaide Oval, thanks for joining us this morning.
00:40:17
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, we're talking about sporting hero speaking of Ovals and the endeavors that take place on them. This morning. We've got a Royal Show family pass to give away. Terry and Capanda. Who was your sporting hero growing up?
00:40:28
Speaker 12: Oh?
00:40:29
Speaker 5: Well, there had to be the great George Best For me. I tried to model it was an icon, and I tried to model my life on his. I played soccer. I did quite get to the ability that he did. I tried dating miss Well, that didn't work out so well. And then I went to the doctors and he said told me that I had the liver of George Best. So I walked out of their copper hoop.
00:41:01
Speaker 2: Oh that is excellent. Terry, I thot you could have the family pass, but that was very funny. Brawl Adelaide Show. We've got fairly passes to give away. You can get your tickets now at the show dot com, dot au and food Land.
00:41:13
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what if you want to make If you want to make somebody seriously consider never drinking again, you should show them the final photographs of George Best. I think he actually agreed or it was his idea to give them to the tabloids in Britain, because he wanted people to see just how much booze could absolutely destroy you. Like his eyes were just like that's awful yellow.
00:41:36
Speaker 2: He is gaunt. Had some fun before that, though, didn't he well, the famous interview and.
00:41:43
Speaker 4: The reporter went to his room and he was in there with two Miss Universe winners out of his money on it, and a bottle of open muette next to the bed, three glasses going. And this reporter came in and said, George.
00:41:57
Speaker 2: Where did it all go so wrong? And what to find wrong? Five double O news is coming up. Frank Pangalo is going to join us the story in state politics out of the weekend. He is joining the Liberal Party to run. He's got one for he wouldn't take no for an answer. Frank pag Galo candidate for the seat of Wait. Coming up next David.
00:42:24
Speaker 3: Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a Breakfast.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: Hey but it's after say it goo, Good morning to you, and welcome to Monday for joining us for the very first time. Good time to tune in as well, because Stephen Rowe is not too far away. RAWI postgame on Saturday night was just something to be seen and heard. It was just exceptional. Looking forward to a chatting with him very very shortly. Albeit as we were just talking about in the news break, the tenor of things has changed markedly from the elation of Saturday and Sunday, given the news that's broken overnight about allegations against how is that rankin and the potential that he could miss a large part of the finals for making a slur.
00:43:00
Speaker 4: We came in here today with every intention of doing three hours of nothing other than purely, pure and unadorned joyful radio about what happened on the weekend. And obviously, you know, the joyfulness is still there, but we're looking at this delicious smagas board of excitement at the moment all those great memories from Saturday night and suddenly is like, hang on, what's that?
00:43:23
Speaker 2: We got this to deal with? Yeah, so we'll get into that, but we will reflect on Saturday night with Rawi as well. Also why are people shying away from buying mushrooms and why is Eron Patterson partly to blame. Before eight o'clock we'll be chatting with Marco Marinello, the mushroom man at the Adelade Central Market. Actually really looking forward to that chat. I think it's going to be an interesting insight into how people shop and buy food and so forth. Frank Pangalo, after making the switch to the Liberal Party, will be on in just a couple of moments time. But first, Mitch Seraobski in now what's becoming a regular segment joins us out the front of something that looks like someone's tried to burn it down. No guessing what Mitch, good morning to you. Good morning goes so.
00:44:01
Speaker 4: Mitch, what type of shop are we talking about here? And doesn't sell cigarettes?
00:44:08
Speaker 16: So that gods of the MFS were called to this tobacco shop around four point thirty this morning, and that was following the reports of a fire. It's on Port Road at Woodville South. So what you can see in the video out of photo Minder sorry, are the front roller shutters on the building. They've been scorched and we've been told that this is the work of an art and it is still unclear what was used to ignite the blaze, but gods you'd remember it comes a week after a blaze at a Findon tobacco shop which was linked to Operation Eclipse, and Operation Eclipse is a task force set up to crack down on illegal vape and tobacco stale syndicates. Detectives did stave to the media last week that criminal syndicates are changing the way they operate in an attempt to evade police. And as we saw the start of the year and at the end of last year, there was several tobacco shops that were being target so crime scene investigators they're currently on the scene, but it is likely that these is linked to Operation Eclipse, and it seems to be in the past week reigniting again.
00:45:12
Speaker 2: I'm taking nine seconds to write this story. Now you've covered a few of these.
00:45:16
Speaker 16: Pretty easy to write, these stories.
00:45:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a bit common, aren't they. Mitch. Thank you for that Mitchell Ceresy. You'll see it all on seven years tonight. It's worth I think, just reflecting momentarily on one terrific column you wrote about this and two on the eve of a productivity summit at which we're going to try and talk about new economic policy and so forth. These ruins are quite literally the smoldering wreck of bad tax.
00:45:38
Speaker 4: Policy, prohibitionism at work. And you know the other thing too. It's not it's not like it's just crooked shop, the crooked shop. There's a there's a Dominoes at Findon that I'm presumably still not at work because they got they got torched as well last week by accident, you know, simply for the mistake of being next door to a shop that until recently was vacant, and he's now filled with thousands of packs of illegal smokes. All because if you price something so punitively, this open ended, ever increasing spiral. Now you've got a fifty dollars a packet differential in the midst of a cost of living christ as people who remain addicted to sigarettes.
00:46:19
Speaker 2: So you create the market.
00:46:20
Speaker 4: I'll go down to, you know, the dodgy gift shop with all the shesha pipes in the front and not to nuntch wink wink as you can't, and the smokes for undred and fifty bucks.
00:46:30
Speaker 2: It's the challenge of good government. Our next guest Wan's to be part of forming some good government. Frank Pangalo, who has moved from Well, will be moving at the next election from the Upper House since ow of the straight of the Legislative Council, he wants to move to the lower House and represent the people of Weight as a member of the Liberal Party. Frank, good morning to.
00:46:49
Speaker 17: You Well and Pembo good morning.
00:46:53
Speaker 4: So Frank, there's a big decision and I got to say the thing. What I'll do, I'll read out a text from one of our listeners because it's since the side. There's my views on this. So I don't know if wills are the same, but anyway, one amount of listeners. Rob He says, the good thing about Frank is that he could always speak and speak his mind and vote with his own mind. Is he worried now that he's going to be somewhat muzzled and have to tow the party line and not be the Frank that we know anymore.
00:47:21
Speaker 17: Well, no, exactly, it won't happen. And in fact we're talking with Vincentazi and members of the Liberal Party. That's the reason that they spoke to me. You know, they saw what I did in the Parliament and outside the Parliament and you know that's what they want to see. And Vincent's made it quite clear, you know, I'll be off the leash, and of course I'm not going to embarrass the Liberal Party or any of their policies or whatever. I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing. You know, Labor says I'm desperate to stay in Parliament. Well, no, I'm desperate to keep holding this lying an arrogant government to account and how they've cons out Australians and they just, you know, Labor just doesn't like my style of fearal favor and that I expose real corruption and fraud in their government at the casino and they just say nothing and do nothing.
00:48:20
Speaker 4: But is any part of this though about you just trying to keep your political career going by whatever means, because Kinarly, it's easy for you probably to win weight than it is to get the seventy odd thousand votes you'd need to get re elected in the Upper House, is it not?
00:48:37
Speaker 13: Well?
00:48:37
Speaker 17: Funnily enough, a lot of my colleagues in the Upper House before I made this decision were talking to me about what I would be doing at the next election, and even suggesting that I actually had a good chance of sneering an independent seat in the Upper House. It's very difficult for an independent, particularly one that doesn't have the enormous funding that others now had. Because of the con job that the Premier has put on South Australia with his political donations back, people will not realize the implications of that until after the next election. No, and look after I've been doing. I like my job and I like representing the people of South Australia. So nothing's going to change about me.
00:49:27
Speaker 2: Some things might have to change, mightn't they, Frank, Because historically you have been fiercely independent, you have voted against liberal positions, you've voted with the government, and you've been critical of Vincentazia have you not? So how do you reconcile those positions with you on your loyalty?
00:49:40
Speaker 17: Well, I haven't really been critical of Vincent, and in fact, actually I get on quite well with Vincent. And the other thing is that you know, I question you know the Labor Party and Tom Kusantonas that are trying to cause some kind of division, you know, I mean last night I saw on seven years last night. Will But I wasn't shaking his hand. I mean that was the biggest beat up I've seen. And I know what beat ups.
00:50:07
Speaker 2: Alive break What are you talking about?
00:50:14
Speaker 17: Well, it was just an absolute beat up trying to find some negativity.
00:50:17
Speaker 18: Enough.
00:50:18
Speaker 17: Look, it's like this, right, it's I've got a long career in media and public service, honesty, integrity and accountability, and I've got results. You know, my track record is proof, not just in the Parliament, but what I did before I went in there. People aren't aware.
00:50:40
Speaker 11: Of the you know, the work that I did.
00:50:44
Speaker 17: When I was working with Channel seven today tonight and even before that. I mean, I go all the way back before Peter Malinauskus was born in holding governments and premiers to account. So I've got the experience. I've got real life experience, and I think they fear that. And what they don't like is me having a crack at him about some of their policies and also some of the decisions that they've been making him late, you know. And you know, the Premier has got a glass straw and an ego to match his size, and he wants everyone to love him well, that he can do no wrong. Well, I'm going to call that out.
00:51:20
Speaker 4: You know, hey, Frank, do you you've been not suggesting anything. The furious has gone on here. But he got a promise to be like treasure or anything if if if a Tazi government is formed, or are you going to Bemaker's on the back bench as opposed to holding a portfolio per se.
00:51:39
Speaker 17: No, there's been nothing of that, in fact that Vince has just recently announced the reshuffle. No, there's been nothing like that of all. You know, they and I work closely with the Liberal Party more so than the Labor Party.
00:51:54
Speaker 19: You know.
00:51:54
Speaker 17: They know they ain't need my boat in the upper House. They've already secured the one that they want. And they know that I'm a straight shooter and I'm not just going to fall over just because the Premier wants to get something through like a golf course or a university. In that I question and I ask the hard questions, and I question his answers. And look, I'm a bit unique in parliament, Pembo, because I come from a journalistic background. My working life has been as an investigative journalist, and I think about things in Parliament and I do ask the hard questions. People just need to have a look at.
00:52:34
Speaker 9: The hand side.
00:52:34
Speaker 17: They don't do that enough unfortunately the media these days. And I talked to a lot of young journalists and say to them, you know, when I was a young journalist, we were always told to read hands up because you'd always get stories out of them. Well, but get dozens of stories as they read my questions in Parliament that the government hasn't answered. I mean, Peter mallin Askas hasn't even answered questions I asked months ago about his trip too, and how he came back on a private jet and who paid for that private jet.
00:53:06
Speaker 4: Just finally, Frank, your leader's got an approval rating of fourteen percent. If the Libs looked around for another leader down the track, would you ever put your hand up for that?
00:53:17
Speaker 17: Look you're going on that you gov poll?
00:53:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well.
00:53:23
Speaker 17: Who commissioned that poll?
00:53:26
Speaker 6: That?
00:53:28
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. I know the theory.
00:53:31
Speaker 4: I know the theory you've got, but it's not true. I know the backstories. You gov did it itself. They didn't charge anyone for it, but you Gov did it.
00:53:40
Speaker 9: Well.
00:53:41
Speaker 17: You know, you can always turn things around, and I've got a lot.
00:53:44
Speaker 4: Of confe I'm asking if he can. I'm asking whether you would do it in future.
00:53:49
Speaker 17: Well, i'd certainly back them.
00:53:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, back yourself as a leader.
00:53:55
Speaker 17: No, And I'm not there. I'm not there or trying to get in as as a leader. I'm actually there to give support to Vincent and there's a very good young team in there, Pembo. People don't realize the talent that they've actually got in there. It's very difficult for oppositions to cut through in the media. When you've got a premier that's announcing all sorts of things and he's bread and circuses and all these events, it's hard for them to cut through. But I can assure you I've worked with him in the Parliament for the last seven and a half years and there is some good talent there. They're rebuilding the party and that was another thing that I liked about the Liberals is they are rebuilding. They know that they had problems in the past, and I thought, I'm happy to cut my light in and do what I can and keep this government accountable, because that's what it's all about. It's a great accountability and you need an effective opposition.
00:54:49
Speaker 4: Frank Penelo now independent Emils. You seemed to be liberal candidate for Wait. Thanks for joining us this morning, Frank.
00:54:55
Speaker 2: The seat of Weight has been in Liberal hands from when it was first dablished in nineteen ninety three right through into the last election when it was won by Labor Catherine Hutchinson, one from Sam Deluk, who of course had resigned from the party and was running as an independent. But this is classic Liberal heartland. That said four percent margin at the moment four percent swing to the Liberal Party, which makes the one part of this I think is worth observing. I am one hundred percent clear of what the Liberal Party get out of Frank Pangalo. I think he's a huge asset. I'm less clear on what Frank Pangalo gets out of the Liberal Party.
00:55:31
Speaker 4: Well, maybe he gets another term, because I don't think he's not going to get the quota to get back.
00:55:36
Speaker 2: In the up. I'm just thinking running in that seat, he's spent his whole life living there. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, how much better off is he is a Liberal Party Canada than an independent candidate. So you reckon he should have just run this. I don't know. I just I raised the question. I don't think it's cut and dried that thing. He referred to about the Yu gave Paul. There's this conspiration theory that's been kicking around on the liberal side for weeks now that that devastating pole that had Malley on like seventy and Tazi on fourteen, that it was paid for by the Labor Party right and then given to the advertised Not true, it was done. Yugov did it for free, I think, on a promise that they'll do one that will be paid for by the paper down the track. But Yugov did it themselves, and obviously it's great marketing, it's great name recognition for them, because we're all sitting here talking about the Yugav pole still weeks on. But just the lips should think through that.
00:56:35
Speaker 4: Logically, if the Labor Party was going to pay for a poll, why the hell would any political party want a pole to come out a year out from polling they showing that there is no way they can lose and that their leader is so popular, You do a poll showing that it's close, because you know, the last thing you want is this sense of complacency that you're unbeatable.
00:56:58
Speaker 2: What do the people of Wait think? Double two three double O double would you vote for Frank Pangalo as a liberal, or you can text us on zero four eight zero eight thirty ninety five just further than my former point, my previous point. Wait last election, thirty four percent of people voted from the independent candidate in Wait Sam to look, of course a former liberal, Heather Holmes Ross, who obviously the mayor local government. So there's an appetite. There's an appetite for an independent. Twenty three after seven, let's chick traffic. In a moment, Stephen Roe will join. It's all my goodness, have we got a bit to talk about in the world of forty today. Enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing group design manufacturer and installed locally by Louver House, David.
00:57:34
Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings. Five double a breakfast, Stephen right on five double a breakfast, Depend up that.
00:57:47
Speaker 2: Ground level lying on top of Jane Miller. Of course, it's time's goin to expire the loudest rule. I think that I can ever remember hearing an Adelaide Oval and the sirn went on Saturday night and the Crows secured a top two spot and in the process exercised a demon by the name of Collingwood. Steven Ray, you were there.
00:58:17
Speaker 20: Good morning, oh Pember and Will good morning.
00:58:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, great call.
00:58:20
Speaker 20: Look Crows a top cannot lose top two, have two home finals. Just beat Collywood in front of you, right, the biggest home in away crowd ever. They lost inside fifties by thirty four. Now I don't know what's the record, but it has to be a world record. I'll say that again. Lost inside fifties by thirty four. Still won their midfield pressure Wirrel and Keen down back the way, their wingmen and high half forwards get in and block up the space with elite pressure. That was an amazing win in tricky conditions against a team they haven't beaten since twenty sixteen. Mate, they are out and out flag favorites four dollars and deservedly.
00:58:58
Speaker 2: So who'd have thought? Will?
00:59:00
Speaker 20: I mean last year, I could wait for the year to finish and look at where they are now. Well, that's why we're lifting lids and getting excited.
00:59:08
Speaker 2: They can win a flag. Well, even Nixy.
00:59:11
Speaker 4: In the press conference afterwards Row he said, there's no point in pretending that the lead's on anymore.
00:59:17
Speaker 20: Oh well, there isn't externally, not internally though, but that's right. They'll steer their course and rightly so. The fans have every right to get excited. Look at the crowd that turned up the Crows last two weeks. Hasn't been their best footy, but they're still winning. They've got lead to come back in next week with Shelley and Michael and it will be right for Round one of the finals. No injuries again touch wood but the big one. Oh. I woke up to the news on my Twitter Isaac Rankins being investigated for a homophobic slur. Now we don't know the detail, what was said.
00:59:50
Speaker 2: Who to and who heard it.
00:59:52
Speaker 20: This cannot be This cannot be true, can it.
00:59:56
Speaker 2: If it is precon it would suggest he's not going to dismiss a finally might miss a couple. Rowi, you're there, Rowie.
01:00:07
Speaker 20: Well, I have had a look at that and there is precedents yet, gotcha.
01:00:12
Speaker 2: You're there here, We're here, Yeah, you're there. I think there's a little delay, so you just keep going Rowi.
01:00:18
Speaker 20: Yeah, sorry, sorry, Oh okay, Well, yes, there is precedents, so it could be three to five weeks depending on what was said into whom Gold Coast will Powell got a five game suspension for a homophobic comment. Just this year West Coast Jack Graham four games for using a homophobic slur to an opponent.
01:00:38
Speaker 2: He self reported.
01:00:39
Speaker 20: Was it last year Jeremy Finlason or the year before got three? So this is this cannot oh god, yeah, anyway, let the investigation happen. There are three match winners in the team that we can't win a flag without Dawson, Rankin and Filthorpe.
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Speaker 4: Well, so many of those turning points, particularly on Saturday night as well. Phil thought right at the end, unbelievable the ranking goal as well from the free, which is one man headline out of the weekend, because he got fined twosred bucks of his match fee for staging for that free as well Ranking. I wonder if they're going to look at some of the free Dekos got and whether he should perhaps give up some of his match fee as well for laying it on with a trowel. But anyway, great stuff from it, great call too, Will. That was the end of the game.
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Speaker 2: That must have been the most excited you've ever been calling a footy match. Yeah it was. I couldn't hear myself think the crowd was that loud like that. I was trying to turn up the volume in the bit we played just there, so you clearly the ambient sound. You knew exactly how long was left. We knew exactly how long was left. So when you saw Miller a kick at the Dawson, he was over. Oh well, no, I think you had the moment. I knew it was over as calling because I was watching Miller's kick. But as the ball was traveling for the air, the crowd just erupted because Doll was all by himself and it was clear to people that he was going to market, and some people obviously knew that that time was about to go. So you said earlier, you're doing this. You're perched on level four of the western stand. Yes, in the in the member stand. So you've seen everyone in the crowd in the on the eastern side all they all just went on. They all roared.
01:02:18
Speaker 4: That's where we were, and it was like when we saw it going to Dawson, like, yes, Dawson's got it.
01:02:23
Speaker 2: And as I said earlier, the commentary box shook. That whole stand shook, not just the glass reverberating with sound, but side to side movement like we're in an earthquake. I've never feart anything like. It was unbelievable. That was a great night, wasn't it. It was five Double A News is coming up. We're going to take a quick breaking back more short David.
01:02:40
Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings, five Double A Breakfast.
01:02:44
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes to eight. We will be chatting with the journalists who broke the Isaac Rankins story, John Ralph after eight o'clock today. So if you want some more information, the most up to date information, stay listening to five Double A Breakfast and will bring it to you. We have been in contact with the Adelaide football club as well, so stayed listening after eight o'clock the very latest on a story that could shape Adelaide's September that's not too far ahead. Before we get to that and come speaking of things that are coming up, the Federal Government's Productivity Roundtable starts tomorrow in Parliament House and canber It runs through until the twenty first of August. A little it might be worth we keep referring to this thing as the Productivity round Table, restating what this is all about in the terms that the government has actually set. The Economic Reform round Table, led by the Treasurer and supported by the Ministers, will focus on lifting living standards for Australia with a focus on three main themes. Now this is the government's language is not mine, making our economy, were productive, building resilience in the face of global uncertainty, strengthening the budget and making it more sustainable. So a lot's been spoken about the productivity point one point three, strengthening the budget, making more sustainable. Is why a you're getting all these this concept of tax being brought up all the time in new taxes and governments having to rule them out because it invites that kind of thinking. One thing that hasn't been a big part of the conversation to this point is the environment, and that is of concern to our exchest Michael Cornish, who is the policy lead at Australian Land Conservation Alliance, joining us now on five to blaebreak was Michael, good morning.
01:04:16
Speaker 6: To you, good ring.
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Speaker 4: So how does or how should the environment be given a greater profile at an event like this which is ostensibly about getting the economy ticking over better?
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Speaker 21: Michael, Yeah, So look, nature fundamentally underkins our economy and the prosperity of our communities, the places we live and visit, the food we eat, whither we wear, medicines we take, and so much more. Besides, so, like so many things in life, we tend not to appreciate how important it is until it's disappearing or it's gone completely. And I guess Olga Bloom is titching us this hard troop and spades at the moment. But nature is in a whole lot of trouble, and every report decades to shrown in that it's defining faster and faster, that many ecosystems are hitting sipping points. Per flat invest in nature is less than a mere point one percent of the federal budget. That's one tenth of a cent for every dollar of tax we paid. Given how important nature is all of us, we think the government should stop paying environmental damage through you know, costly taxpath funded substies, start funding solutions that regenerate nature.
01:05:16
Speaker 4: So as your answer to your answer to improving productivity would be to see the wood sides and the santoses of the world basically treated like you know, environmental prize is that sort of it in a nutshell?
01:05:27
Speaker 21: Well, they shouldn't be given the free pass. I mean, they shouldn't be you know, there shouldn't be a tax path funded substies to encourage these industries, especially where you know, we've we've heard plenty of examples of gas exporters, you know, sending their product services, you know, not necessarily to the benefit of ordinary Australians. So yeah, I think they should pay their freest.
01:05:47
Speaker 2: Sure, Michael Tangentially, I mean there has been some acknowledgment of some of the issues that green projects face in Australia because some of the best examples of red tape getting in the way things that are like for solar farms or wind farms, are they not? And that would seem to be something that's squarely in the focus of the government at this roundtable.
01:06:10
Speaker 8: Yes.
01:06:10
Speaker 21: Look, I mean the agenda to the Federal govert's roundtable is you know, they have said they want quick environmental decisions for developments, and look, I agree, we want quicker yeses and nose where we really want and need to protect nature as well as where it makes sense to build more housing. We're all that much needed renewable energy, but we also want smart yesses and smart nose and our sector has got those smarts and the experts. You know, We've got the expert scientists and ecologists and so I guess you know, despite the environment sector being the center of how to create smart solutions these problems, the invitations to send the Coublement's roundtables have been I'm so we say, pretty thin on the ground. So that's really why we decided our own roundtable help make sure the environment spectors voices and recommendations. But when wind solutions were being held by the being heard by the Strandian government.
01:06:54
Speaker 4: Michael Keernish policy lead at the Australian Land Conservation Alliance, thank you for.
01:06:58
Speaker 2: That, Abby Smith for ten years. First is reporting this morning on a tree that and a car that have come together. And I use that sort of vague leguage. Is I'm not sure of the circumstance, is Abby, what's happened?
01:07:09
Speaker 22: Good morning boys? Well, if there was ever a day that this driver was going to go and buy a lotto ticket, today would be the day. So essentially, what's happened. He's driving up Williamson Road in Para Hills about twelve fifteen when this massive tree while he's driving has fallen on the bonnet of his car. Luckily, no injury for him. He was checked over by paramedics and we're being told by the people that live around here. Two thirty in the morning sbs were out with their chainsaws cutting up the tree to get it off the road because it had blocked the road. I sent through some videos and some photos to producer John O. The trunk of the tree is massive. It's not as big as the one we saw out the front of Mercedes College the other week, but it is really really big. So luckily this driver was not injured. But yet, if there was going to be a week where you go and buy a Lotto ticket this week for him?
01:08:04
Speaker 2: So do you know what?
01:08:05
Speaker 4: So what's the speed limit on the stretch of road Abbey and I presume he was doing that speed limit roughly, Yeah, we assume he was.
01:08:12
Speaker 22: It's only fifty because it's actually right next to Paro Hills School preschool. So luckily this didn't happen. You know, let's out drop off or pickup time because it would have been a lot busier. But even while we've been here this morning, this is quite a busy road. It's quite a busy thoroughfare. So really bad luck for him at quarter past twelve this morning. To be right, you know where the tree came right as the tree came down, So yeah, I cannot believe that he's walked away uninjured from there.
01:08:42
Speaker 2: Unolievable.
01:08:43
Speaker 4: Lucky bloke, and as you said, lucky that it happened at the time of day that it did. Abbey Smith Fair for ten News First.
01:08:49
Speaker 2: It's a fifteen minutes to eight. The mushroom murder trial was one of the most high profile cases in the world. Whilst it was running. We covered extensively on our program and as I say, international news organizations were covering. The nature of it was somewhat relatable. A foraging for deathcat mushrooms put into a meal that a lot of people have eaten and probably cooked themselves of beef Wellington. However, it's had a diverse effect on mushroom sales, even here in South Australia. We're going to do more work on that in just a moment, try to get the bottom of why. But first traffic, enjoy your outdoor area all year around with an opening and closing roof design manufactured and installed locally by Louphouse.
01:09:31
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01:10:02
Speaker 4: I dropped it on the ground and the tips. Now I've got such a good range of knives. The other thing they've got out there. Have you got any of this stuff? The le Crouse, the French cookware.
01:10:11
Speaker 2: Well, you know what we don't. And we walk past a store on the weekend and I have said we need to get some of that in our house. They cost a lot.
01:10:19
Speaker 4: But the good thing is she had mentioned that they regularly have discounts for half price, but they're still you know, but it's like as far as cook where it goes, it's like by the Mercedes Benz.
01:10:31
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01:10:35
Speaker 4: Rosie will give her le cruse pot that she inherits from you to her son or daughter will give it to their son or daughter. These things last forever and they are so good to cook with. All right, So turn it on a kitchen warehouse about you're given with conversation? Were in the first hour and the record breaking crowd on Saturday night at the Adelaide Oval. What's the biggest crowd you've ever been in?
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01:11:10
Speaker 4: We'd have people listening who have certainly been the biggest crowd ever in South Australian history. Which remains a certain football match that occurred in a certain year at a certain oval that's no longer here?
01:11:19
Speaker 2: Was that the biggest? What about what about a certain band that visited South Australia. Yeah, would have that crowd been bigger? I think it would have been yes by about seven thousand. Yeah, yeah, eight double two to three double o double. Let us know you can win yourself that Turner dollar kitchen warehouse Avoutcher. Let's add to Marco Marinelli, the mushroom man at the Adelaide Central Markets, so who were to speak to about it? This is it's really interesting the way in which people react to news stories. The mushroom murder trial one of the most high profile cases in the world, but the ramifications of it appear to have been, according to some outlets, a reduced appetite for mushrooms. Marco, good morning to you. Is this what you're seeing at your.
01:11:59
Speaker 9: Store morning, guys. Yeah, it's been interesting from a couple of years ago. Obviously when we all hit the media, the industry wided from what grows were telling us was you know, sort of fifteen to twenty percent downtown, and then it all sort of you know, subsided and came back to close to normal again. And then obviously the case hit the courts and there was certainly a downturn again, which has led to obviously less sales and just a general general fear of a product that fundamentally people don't need to be scared of, especially the white and brown mushrooms that are cultivated in Australia.
01:12:34
Speaker 2: It really is.
01:12:35
Speaker 4: Baffling, isn't it, Marco, Because you know, we've done heaps of shows at the Central Market. I've never seen anyone in there selling desk cat mushrooms. Like, what on earth is going on the heads of these people?
01:12:46
Speaker 9: Yet with the amount of requests for them jokingly, of course we've paid over the last two years has been astounding. Absolutely so.
01:12:54
Speaker 2: People look a bit of galleys humans.
01:12:56
Speaker 4: Customers are coming in in a bit of galleys humans sort of jokingly asking for all them?
01:13:00
Speaker 2: Are they Yeah?
01:13:01
Speaker 5: They are?
01:13:01
Speaker 9: And you know, to the point that my staff have actually started started keeping tallies on a given day just to amuse themselves because I mean, obviously everybody thinks they're the first person to think of it, and it's funny and to a certain degree we understand where they're coming from. But after the two thousandth time kind of leaves with shimmer a little bit.
01:13:21
Speaker 4: Oh criky, Yeah, no, it would, it would get pretty tedious. Now you're just opposite the lu Cheers area there, aren't you. You've got a great range of mushies. Everyone should get in there and give them a try.
01:13:35
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, anything up to you know, twenty to thirty different varieties of mushrooms at different times of the year. I'm all based around the white and brown mushrooms that are cultivated in Australia.
01:13:47
Speaker 4: Get on your Marco, Marco Maronelli there from the mushroom Man in the Adelaide Central Market.
01:13:51
Speaker 2: It was a record crowd at Adelaide Oval on Saturday night that witness the Crows break their hoodoo against Collingwood. Deep four thousand, two hundred plus turned up to the game. We're asking you this morning for the two hundred dollars kitchen Warehouse voucher. What the biggest crowd you've ever been in is, Pam? What's it for you?
01:14:11
Speaker 23: Might would have to be the nineteen ninety seven Grand Final which I was got one hundred and four thousand at the MCG.
01:14:18
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:14:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, good game too, Yeah, happy with that one. That's been nice to recreate a few of those memories this year, Pam. That would be quite something. Good crowd memory to have. Rider. What's the biggest crowd you've ever been in?
01:14:31
Speaker 5: Hello?
01:14:31
Speaker 23: Boys, Yes, I'm bind of a holy roller. So back in the day, the Bishop of fault Pirie sent me off to well Youth. Today I landed in the Philippines with one point five million people and we all waited for Hope John for the second to rock up and clapped and had mats with it.
01:14:48
Speaker 24: It was fabulous.
01:14:49
Speaker 23: But jeez, it was tight.
01:14:51
Speaker 2: I reckon, that's going to take some beating rider a half million. How did they go moving people in and out? I mean, what space are you in to fit in one point five people?
01:15:00
Speaker 23: It was something as big as Adelaide Oval.
01:15:02
Speaker 24: It was ridiculous.
01:15:03
Speaker 23: They were all lying next to each other at four in the morning waiting to see him. It was just remarkable if they experienced anything like.
01:15:09
Speaker 2: It before, remarkable. Thank you Rader. Let's go to Adelaide Hills. Bill, what's your biggest crowd?
01:15:14
Speaker 8: Just give her a present?
01:15:22
Speaker 25: Sixteen thousand mc gas in the Berthons car. Jeff Glaston was seventeen years old, play full forward, Bredon and west Last clipping behind the ear in about the first five minutes.
01:15:35
Speaker 2: Bill, you get points for the telling because that was magnificent.
01:15:38
Speaker 16: Per that you.
01:15:38
Speaker 2: Bill Rory in west ein Marsh, Good.
01:15:40
Speaker 19: Morning, morning, so well I've been tipped by a couple of people, but I went to the first and made a stadium in North Korea and I holded one hundred and fourteen thousand people.
01:15:50
Speaker 4: For the mass Games in your career, Rory Yeah, yeah, wow.
01:15:58
Speaker 19: It's a good story, I guess. But I hadn't win the prize for the biggest proud But.
01:16:01
Speaker 4: Oh, you win the prize for being the first person with a Spikan who's been in North Korea.
01:16:04
Speaker 2: So you're in Pyongyang?
01:16:05
Speaker 19: Were yeah, yeah, yeah twenty nineteen just before COVID hit and we.
01:16:10
Speaker 4: Were like, did you need to get special permission, like you need to be sponsored to be able.
01:16:15
Speaker 2: To past this?
01:16:17
Speaker 8: Yeah?
01:16:17
Speaker 19: We we just sort of booked it through a online tour agency and they sort of did everything, but it all goes through the government and things like that, so we had minders the whole time and everything. But to be honest, it was quite an easy process in terms of getting there. We're just a part of line and paid and made to the rest.
01:16:32
Speaker 2: What's the weirdest thing about being in North Korea?
01:16:35
Speaker 19: Well, I mean, I guess being there, I know, I just felt like, you know, it felt like you were in a TV show. Kind of felt like you're in the Treaman show because everything was so like scripted and everyone was watching the whole time.
01:16:46
Speaker 11: But but yeah, I think they're just being watched.
01:16:49
Speaker 19: The whole time.
01:16:49
Speaker 4: Were their shops and cafes and people sort.
01:16:52
Speaker 2: Of doing that?
01:16:52
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they took us, They took us around to that kind of thing. But again, it was it felt very scripted, you know, like the shops they took too, with the subs they wanted us to go to. They let us sort of roam around in a supermarket, which is probably one of the most interesting things that that we did.
01:17:09
Speaker 2: We can talk to you for half an hour about this. That's great, Thank you for calling again. Let's go to Campbelltown, Barry. What's the biggest crowd you've been in?
01:17:17
Speaker 8: Well, I was going to say Adelaide, but that's been mentioned. So how about kaisuslout for the World Cup in Germany Japan. Australia against Australia against Japan.
01:17:31
Speaker 2: Arguably my favorite moment in history sport that game. And I was sitting on a couch at west Lake Shore.
01:17:37
Speaker 8: There surrounded by Japanese.
01:17:39
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, did you lose your mind? When Tim Kayle egalized.
01:17:44
Speaker 8: I think we lost more than the mind.
01:17:47
Speaker 2: Okay, oh boy, what a happy place. That's amazing. Imagine being there. We might take one more Brandon one Tree Hill, good morning, Yeah.
01:17:57
Speaker 17: Good morning boys.
01:17:59
Speaker 26: That girl who with one point five million, that's that's bigger than some country lab It's crazy, Okay, couple. I've been to seventy five grand four all back in the verir Field days one hundred and ten thousand, but the one that means the most to me ninety eight grand four and where I laid one ninety four thousand and four.
01:18:19
Speaker 9: And thirty one.
01:18:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good day, Brad, Thank you. I think I think sometimes you know, the people's will wins out, and every caller mentioned Reader, so we probably have to give it to reader, don't we.
01:18:29
Speaker 4: It was almost like a like an honor system where the callers were coming in going, I'll still tell the story, you know, as long as Rita wins the prize.
01:18:37
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01:19:00
Speaker 3: Penberthie and Will Gooding's five double a breakfast.
01:19:03
Speaker 2: Seven after eight. I hate to say, it feels like this could be bad news. Half hour in a moment, breaking an eight on the biggest story in football this morning, and we wish it was the Crow's victory on Saturday night against Collingwood. Unfortunate. It's an on field incident that thretns well a lot for Adelaide. We're going to get into that with the man who broke the story shortly. Also coming up. I hope you don't like spirits, drinking them, maybe looking at them. That's cheaper spirits with more than tempus in alcohol. Will will be hit with the excise. Everything would have been, but they froze. The excise. Increase on beer happens twice a year. Charles is going to cost twenty five dollars. In the way this is going is ridiculous. Anamola from the AHA is going to join us. Then after eight thirty, we're going to be chatting with the Ukrainian Ambassador to Australia to get his take on the Trump Putin meeting that took place on Saturday morning. I can't imagine that's going to be a particularly positive take on what came out of it, given that ultimately what appears to be resolved. Well, let's be fair about it's two things. One is that Donald Trump has moved to a Putin's way of thinking when it comes to the order of events, that is, no cease fire before peace negotiation. But Putin has come to Trump's wave thinking when it comes to allowing a US security guarantee for Ukraine after that peace negotiation. So we're going to get into all that with the Ukrainian ambassador after eight point thirty this morning. Let's jump into Breaking eight though, with what is the story in the football world this morning. We're joined now by the.
01:20:37
Speaker 4: Man who broke it, John Ralph from the Herald Son and Fox Footy. John, Good morning, mate, and thank you so much for joining us. As Will said, this is and it's quite sad really because after the weekend the Adelaide Football Club has had, we should be in full blown celebration mode here. Amazing result. But obviously this is a very serious set of allegations. What can you tell us do you know exactly what Isaac Rankin is alleged to have said?
01:21:05
Speaker 27: Yeah, I do, and you know there is some merchandist about you know exactly the motivations for it. I know the allegation anyway, you know, you imagine that's the slur that most people have had three and four and five week penalties four over the last eight months in the AFL. We have to say it he's only an allegation. But after myself and Glenn McFarland broke that story last night on news court platforms, the AFL and Adelaide this morning have come out and confirmed that there is an investigation of foot Now again we need to say that it is only just starting. So you'd imagine the AFL integrity team will speak to Isaac today and the Collingwood player who's at the center of the allegation, but certainly the trend in regards to those penalties.
01:21:48
Speaker 9: Is not his friend.
01:21:48
Speaker 27: Because four weeks ago we saw Riac Andrew, who's a Sydney AFL player, involved in a slur in the VFL game that was a five week suspension, and only the week before that, Jack Graham, the West Coast player, was handed of four weeks suspension after he's self reported and got a week's discount. So you don't really have to do the mass too well to know that. Yeah, if this club wins a qualifying final, they potentially only have yeah that those games left.
01:22:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could.
01:22:14
Speaker 27: Potentially be season over if this allegation is proven against Oazac Rankin.
01:22:18
Speaker 2: So just for our listeners that are waking up to this news this morning, the allegation itself, is it being made by a Collingwood player or was it a third party to the exchange.
01:22:29
Speaker 27: No, we don't know the specifics of that. All we know is that there was a discussion between the clubs yesterday. I'm not sure whether there was a complaint made by the Collingwood player. I'm not sure whether, as you say, a third party on the field. Well sometimes even the umpires MIC's bring those things to life, and so yeah, yeah, so it takes some time for the AFL to get a ducks in our own in terms of interviewing those players. So yeah, we're not sure of the specifics of it. There are certainly some gray areas and potentially this is something that might see him exonerated. But yeah, certainly from our calls last night, we're able to a certainly the fact that, yeah, that Collingwood player was offended by that, and so that doesn't necessarily all go well for for Isaac, but of course that that process of justice needs to be served before we get a resolution. You'd imagine, well, you imagine they're trying to establish the facts, and then what normally happens is the club then tries the horse trade for the AFL about what potential discounts or you know, his level of contrition, all those kinds of things. So we're getting a hells ahead of ourselves a little bit, but it's because there's just such games of extraordinary magnitude coming up.
01:23:29
Speaker 4: So just to be clear, John, that the allegation is that it was the same one word starting with the letter F that has seen those other players land themselves in strife too.
01:23:41
Speaker 27: Yes, that's the allegation. Yeah, and so that that obviously something that has to be Yeah, it has to be finalized. Yeah, I suppose even if you take Isaac out of this situation, you think to yourself. How have we had Riak, Andrew Lance Colored, Will Powell, Jeremy Finlayson, you know, probably five or six of these incidents across the last eighteen months. I think we all understand that, you know, sometimes AFL players move quite slowly in regards to those cultural norms. But even with you know, without this case involving Isaac, yeah, it does seem that the players are very very slow learners.
01:24:14
Speaker 2: Hey, Ralphie, the Jack Graham incident, he self reported. At what stage of the process did he did he self report? And is it too late for you know, ISAA ranking to show contrition in that manner.
01:24:28
Speaker 27: It's a really good point and it's not something we've got clarity on because it was such a weird incident where you know, yeah, but effectively, you know that both clubs West Coast and JWS disgusted over a number of days, and then I think it only came to the AFL on a Friday, which was you know, maybe five or six days post that incident, and then he was still given credit for self reporting, even though one stage both clubs were thinking about do we just work to this ourselves and not speak to the AFL. So, you know, the fact that Jeremy find Lason got three weeks, Jack Graham got four, Will Powell and Andrew got five that you know, for a different incident, but certainly one that potentially had homophobic references with Alfa Clarkson. He got a twenty thousand dollars fine and a suspended couple of games. And so yeah, there's not a level of consistency.
01:25:11
Speaker 15: Butt.
01:25:11
Speaker 27: All I would say is that the AFL has is set previously, especially with the Finlayson one, when there are incidents that have happened so recently that we do expect the players to you know, to be aware of that and potentially we might give the longer suspension. Again, we're getting ahead of ourselves. The finals matches. Do you take into account the fact that that you know the gravity of those, Do you get a three week suspension that might potentially allow him to get back for a Grand Final. There are all things that are gaining up, you know, that are probably ahead this week and would only occur if this allegation is proved.
01:25:41
Speaker 4: Tell you what, Ralphie, from your two exclusives yesterday, the one we in Adelaide like the hell of a lot more was the one saying that Nazaiah Wangolen was thinking about Capital Adelaide, you could have kept the second one.
01:25:53
Speaker 27: Frankly, well, you know what I was really whilst the kids play sports and a few articles out thinking the big story today might be time wasting with Yeah, Roley Phil forpe and a couple of crow throws, and you know what, you know, I know where across the border, we're just loving the Adelaide situation. We're loving the way they're playing well, loving the fact they gave their coach, you know, enough rope to you know, really build this extraordinary empires. You just think of the stakes. You know, if this is a qualifying final victory for Adelaide, even regardless of what happens after that. You know, this is a couple of year contract extensions for Mattie Nicks. He's built, he's trusted, he has you know, work methodically, he's developed. And yeah, we'll all ask the questions about whether Isaette rank and if he's not available for a finals campaign, whether they can win this thing. Yes they can. But you just look at you know, Dusty Martin going down in the twenty eighty preliminary final and Richmond lost that one. You think about the guys who won the Norms Fit Medals. They're the superstars, you know, the you know, the only think of Will Ashcroft last year. And yeah, of course Patracker and Oliver and those blokes who have won decisive grand finals. So let's hope it's not what it does seem to be. But yeah, that will take a couple of days for us to.
01:26:59
Speaker 2: Get to the one.
01:27:00
Speaker 4: The one bit of solace I took from this chat mate was at the start when you said there's still some murkiness around it. So hopefully there's enough murkiness around it, or maybe there's something explanation for it, maybe a word was miss here.
01:27:10
Speaker 27: Who knows all of that is all possible until I review the tape and yeah, get the testimony of the players. So again, we want to see the best players out there. We want to see great final series. Yeah, let's hope it's not what it does seem to be on face value.
01:27:24
Speaker 4: Absolutely good on your John. We know you're always flat out mate, you're a news machine, so thanks for making the time to talk to us over the border here in Adelaide. John Ralph harold Son and Fox Footy AFL expert and news breaker we'll chat again.
01:27:38
Speaker 2: So mate, we've got a few texts. Why yeah, why for the fans of the Adelaide Football Club. But at times feels like you are cursed? Doesn't it? That period of highest high it lasted twenty four hours anyway, there's no Browpie said, there's not going to ahead of ourselves. We wait and see ultimately how that story does play out.
01:28:04
Speaker 4: The challenge for the club is, if this is true, they need to move on this at lightning speed, get out there on the front foot contrition, apology, admission, and then cauterize it and say well that's that, yes, and now.
01:28:20
Speaker 2: This can't drag into that next weekend.
01:28:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, if there's any suggestion of guilt, the club from the top down needs to go we wear this, We wear this immediately and.
01:28:32
Speaker 2: Then it's back to business because otherwise these things go on and on and there's no footy weekend following this.
01:28:41
Speaker 4: So this for every John Ralph, there's Sam McClure type over there just licking their lips.
01:28:48
Speaker 2: Going, oh yeah, let's get in laid again, you know.
01:28:51
Speaker 4: So there'll be plenty of people in Victoria and even things I'm talking about, the crow's throws or whatever like, do they look at what the way Dacos moves the ball around? We're talking about rank and staging? Do they look at Do they look at Dacos? Do the umpires look at Dacos? I think whenever they look at Dacos, their eyes like that and they give them three votes. You know, we don't want it to become one of these marathon protracted things where Victorian journos can just have a field date with it and it becomes a massive distraction. The crows just need to go all right, if it tappened, we own it, we accept it, and we set it to one side.
01:29:30
Speaker 2: It needs to be made to feel like old news and speed time to check traffic back with more in just a moment, enjoy your outdoor area all year round with an opening and closing roof design manufactured installed locally by Loophouse David.
01:29:43
Speaker 3: Penberthy and Wild Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:29:46
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after right, Good luck buying spirits at the moment. The excise on alcohol is generally applied, well, it's always applied twice a year across all alcohol. However that changed in this term of government. It's been decided that anything over ten percent will have the tax applied, which means draft beer is going to be okay. That's good news for hotels where historically it's just it ticks up in price despite any recognition of the reality of the world is that people are drinking less than they've ever done before. But it is going to be applied to spirits and it's getting to a point where it's ludicrous. In every bottle of spirits, the majority of propit made is not by the producer. It's not by the people handling it, moving it or selling it. It is by the government and it's making things increasingly difficult for our hotels to operate. Ada Moya is the CEO of the Australian Hotels Association. Here in essay and a good morning to you morning boys.
01:30:41
Speaker 18: I'm back on again talking about giving away money.
01:30:45
Speaker 4: It's more fun last time. Sadley is not the the Art Street center in Catherine House.
01:30:50
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, it's a bit different this time.
01:30:52
Speaker 15: You know.
01:30:53
Speaker 4: The thing I can't understand ata, is there a time when alcohol consumption is coming down across every category and Australian is now drink less than they ever have. I would have thought that things like high end cocktails, the sort of stuff that the South Australia produces so well, Like you know, think about places like Never Never down in claren Vale and the wonderful distillery in Corn that's profiled in the paper today. Shouldn't shouldn't these high end brands be treated as a good thing, not a bad thing.
01:31:24
Speaker 27: Absolutely.
01:31:25
Speaker 18: I mean it's a break on business. It's just a lazy tax it as Will said, it happens every six months like clockwork, and it's linked to CPR, so so there's no chance of it of it staying still or going down like you know, we had that hope with with mortgages and house rates. It's just every six months, like like clockworks, lazy tacks up, it.
01:31:48
Speaker 4: Goes well, the thing is too, like what's the endpoint for it? I mean, it just seems unconscionable that they can just keep doing it automatically and shrug their shoulders and go well that's just the way it works.
01:32:00
Speaker 8: Yeah.
01:32:00
Speaker 18: Well, I mean it's a tax. It's a tax on jobs essentially, it's a tax on business. It's a tax on socializing if you like. It's like a sin tax in a way. You know, a bottle of Bundy.
01:32:13
Speaker 5: We were talking.
01:32:14
Speaker 18: I think Will said before you know just how much it costs, and that the bulk of the costs in a bottle of spirits, for example, is actually tax. So in Bundy sixty three percent is tax, which is just extraordinary. And as you said, yes, there's been the freeze on draft beers. That's any any beer that's poured out of a cake. That's so that's good at least that's a peg in the sand or chink in the windscreen if you like. But that's only for two years, so that will give us the opportunity to negotiate and have a look at this whole taxation system on alcohol. But you have a look at wine for example, now that that's totally different. So that's some just something called the wet tax, so that that's not linked CPI. And you know, in our view, alcohol is alcohol. It should just be across the board. And of course spirits are hits so hard because this tax is linked to alcohol content. Yeah, right, higher, the higher the alcohol content, the greater the TAXI.
01:33:21
Speaker 4: But the thing is the amount that people drink varies on the basis of how strong the alcohol is. As well, it seems to be a point lost on the ato.
01:33:30
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, correct, and well, and I think the point is lost because nobody actually wants to look at it like this is this is just an easy, insidious tax that just ticks away, like like it's ticked away for something like eighty five consecutive rises. Yeah, I should point out it's not state government, it's cedral.
01:33:51
Speaker 5: Tax.
01:33:53
Speaker 18: But yeah, like it's we have the third highest tax rate in the world at a time when people are drinking and less well.
01:34:01
Speaker 2: And there's a cautionary tarl here. It's called cigarette tax. We spoke about it about an hour ago. But it's created a black market for a product because there's a natural tension that exists where people say, all right, all right, i'll part, i'll part, i'll part, and then they don't, and then you end up with bigger problem than the one you're trying to solve in the first place. Gift shop selling Bundy exactly right.
01:34:23
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, well, I mean you're absolutely correct. As soon as you seek, as soon as the government seeks to either overpriced or over regulate a regulated product, that's when you have the underground market and you can't see where it's happening. Although clearly with the baps stores and stuff somebody can see because they're all being blown up. But yeah, it causes a problem that you cannot regulate anymore so, and I think the vapes and the illegal tobacco should be a terrible warning.
01:34:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Animal of the CEO of the Australi Alien Hotels Association, thanks for joining us.
01:35:02
Speaker 2: Worth considering in the context two of the productivity roundtable that's happening this week and the suggestion that we need new taxes and concepts to try and repair the budget or make it more sustainable. The language that's been used in the three point Plan. Once these things come on, people lose the appetite to take them off. Oh you can't. It's like getting chewing them out of your hair. That's right.
01:35:24
Speaker 4: What government says, Actually, this tax that's raising heaps of money, maybe we should get rid of it or cut it back a bit.
01:35:30
Speaker 2: Has that ever happened? Because and fundamentally, the way we talk about politics is broken in this country because in the invariably the opposition, whoever they might will be, both sides do it, will say and what services are they cutting back? Yeah? Yeah, to pay for this, they're choosing alcohol over nurses or some stupid line. Yeah, that's right. It's just there's no incentive to get rid of these things once they talking about.
01:35:55
Speaker 4: Bloke in the end deliberately spoke for a very limited period of time to seven thirty about Woodside, Santos, etc. This productivity round table. I don't think we should get our hopes up at all about it. Did you see one of the other addendms to the union's four day week proposal. One of the other things they're talking about this week is they want to very awards so that if you're doing work from home but the boss wants to change your arrangements and say, look, we actually need you to come back into the office. Your employer has to give you six months warning.
01:36:33
Speaker 2: Six months.
01:36:35
Speaker 4: You give it a six month, great period to deal with the horror of having to get out of your track suit once a week.
01:36:41
Speaker 2: These things feel like the opposite of productivity. That doesn't feel that productive. Nay, I wouldn't have thought. Twenty eight after right, huge, huge news story on Saturday morning, right around the world, all eyes ron Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. It was quite an extraordinary spectacle. But what does it mean for Ukraine, The Ukraine and Ambassador for Australia will join us after five Double News David.
01:37:01
Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings five Double A Breakfast twenty three to nine.
01:37:05
Speaker 2: We're going to talk Trump Pooton in just a moment. But stack of texts have come in on the police homecare text lines before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five and a couple of the big issues that we've broke this hour.
01:37:15
Speaker 4: One Here is Eqiel making a completely valid point which in hindsight I should have paid he to. He says, Dave, why you're blaming the ATO for the excise on spirits? Don't set the tax rates, they just collect them. Blame the government of the day. Fair point as Echel, Thank you. Peter says, morning fellas. It's like the alkapop tax that was put on to stop the younger generation accessing these mixed drinks. So they did that, but the tax has never come off. Bloody government with their hands in our pockets yet again, cheers stavros Elkie on the Isaac Rankin story says time to put microphones on players. This little episode is very convenient for the Vics and it comes a little late and a lot of people have been sending texts like this, says the AFLO so hypercritical. They'll have Snoop Dogg with his offensive lyrics, being treated like a star at the Grand Final, but they'll come down like a ton of bricks on players for making one wrongful word.
01:38:11
Speaker 2: In the heat of battle.
01:38:12
Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg actually was investigated for homophobia about ten years ago. He made some comments on Instagram. He made some comments about Caitlin Jenner, who he described as quote a science experiment. There's a song he wrote about something about being afraid, and a lot of gay people said this song is actually coded homophobia about the fear is gay people more than a sogyny side of things that Snoops as your dad rightly pointed out in all seriousness before it became a number one rap hit of twenty twenty five thanks to Flee Forest. But your dad's it was a fair one.
01:39:01
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the problematic lyrics the people are pointing out, like I don't know what he said perform on that, I actually don't know. I think the bigger issue met stoop is I don't think here's any broad appeal whatsoever as a musical artist he's more of an entertaining figure these days than he is a musician. And I don't know enough of the music, but I think problematic stuff was written in the nineties. Now go back and look at every comedy. Yeah, every like the problem is the movie like The Hangover. The problem with that comparison, and I understand why people are making it is the football has made these comments in twenty twenty five. Yeah, I'm not talking about rank. We don't have the RK one. I'm sure about the other ones that have been done, so they get judged by a twenty twenty five standard. Now I don't know now if Snoop goes out and sings some of those songs that people but I don't know the lyrics, but if they are that offensive and they end getting sang on the day, then the AFL totally as a double standard. But yeah, I think we hold everyone to ninety the twenty twenty five standard based on what they did in the nineties, then we're not that would never be another comedy on TV in Australia.
01:39:56
Speaker 4: Lucky to live in a country though, where this is burning news issue of the day, and so people living in Kiev watching on with their fate and their future do a very large degree right now lying in the hands of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin after their talks on Saturday. Now, the promise of new talks with the American President sitting down with Vladimir Zelenski, the Ukrainian president flanked. Now we know by the leaders of many Western European nations, which in a great act of solidarity are going to stand with the Ukraine and say we can't solve this by handing Vladimir Putin a pen and saying, Okay, what would you like the map of Ukraine to look like. Vasil Mroshnichenko is the Ukrainian Ambassador to Australia and New Zealand. He's someone who had the pleasure of meeting several times now on his trips to Adelaide. When the Premier Peter Malanowska said that South Australia would open its arms to refugees from Ukraine when the war, start of the illegal wars started a couple of years ago. Ambassador Rossi Nichenko was at the Kaba Hotel that night to welcome those people to Adelaide.
01:41:08
Speaker 2: And we have him on the line now.
01:41:10
Speaker 4: Ambassador good morning, and thank you for your time. How did you feel as a Ukrainian watching Saturday's events unfold?
01:41:19
Speaker 28: Probably I'm not the best person to ask, because I'm an ambassador of Australia of Ukraine to Australia. I would encourage you to ask my friend whose son lost his lack and bally survived in the war. You can also ask the wife of my school classmate who buried his her husband three weeks ago. Or you can also ask a woman, a young woman from Butcher who's got gang craped by the Russian soldiers.
01:41:50
Speaker 2: M That puts it in perspective.
01:41:53
Speaker 4: How worried are you that Trump is going to end up being played by Putin and that Putin is going to be able to get his why and then all of the land that Russia has encroached upon bill end up being taken away from Ukrame.
01:42:09
Speaker 28: We just have to look at the situation at the moment, and what happened overnight was an important milestone. President of the European Commission from the Line hosted a meeting of the Coalition of the Willing, and I'm personally thankful to Prime Minister Antony Albanezi for joining that call. That probably was in the middle of the night for him, but he did it, demonstrating his importance to the cause. And as you know, President of Alenski's traveling on his way to Washington where he's going to be meeting the President Trump and he will be joined by European leaders of five nations plus Secretary General of NATO and President of the European Commission. So I keep my expectations low that it's the progress and I think that we are working together with Europeans and Americans and the frustrating unity and strengths, because that's the way, the only way, how we can force Russia into peace. Because Russia started this war, they had to finish the war. It's up to Vladimir Putin to stop at For the past three and a half years, he hasn't really demonstrated he wants to end the war because his objectives were not yet achieved, and his objective was very simple. He wanted to take over a Kiv in seven days and take over Ukraine in three weeks. He failed miserably. Now he controls hundred percent of the Ukrainian territory and he wants to get grabbed mores.
01:43:39
Speaker 2: Why do you think the Russians are so resistant to the idea that there should be a ceasefire before peaks negotiations.
01:43:47
Speaker 28: For that reason because they haven't yet achieved their objective. Their objective is subjugated entire Ukraine, and they have demonstrated that they have failed, and therefore they are so reluctant because they feel like they are getting around incrementally at the moment, but they feel like they have an upper hand. They don't care about how many more Russians we're going to kill, and they don't care how many more Ukrainians they're going to kill. So in a way, majority of the Russian population supports vague put In, And you know, he's kind of in a trap because he hasn't yet fulfilled the goal that he promised, and now stopping for him would meaning disaster because all the pressure is going to be on him now because he hasn't destroyed Ukraine entirely yet.
01:44:32
Speaker 2: Are you heartened at all by the revelations overnight of the USN boy Steve Woodcoff's made the comment that Putin conceded to a US security guarantee for Ukraine after a peace negotiation.
01:44:47
Speaker 8: It's let's see what.
01:44:48
Speaker 28: That means, because to be frank, I mean, there is only one Article five and it's part of NATO, and that would be a good security guarantee. There is nothing like Article five, like it doesn't exist. So let's see what other details. So that was just through the guarantee. Let's see what he meant and hopefully in twenty four hours will have more clarity.
01:45:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's going.
01:45:12
Speaker 4: To be an important twenty four hours in the history of your country. Vassal Marussian Yuchenko, the Ukrainian Ambassador to Australia and New Zealand, Thanks for joining us this morning, but.
01:45:21
Speaker 2: We'll catch up again soon.
01:45:22
Speaker 28: Yeah, thanks for having me.
01:45:27
Speaker 2: A few crack pot checks might ignore.
01:45:33
Speaker 4: We were just wading through the chart for some golden nuggets at the moment. Here's one here, I think from back to the Footy Crows fans stop making excuses for Rankin's alleged wrongdoing. No one's making excuses. We are just saying, well, let's just wait and see what has actually happened or not happened.
01:45:53
Speaker 2: Well, a few people have said, where's the outrage and criticism for him? It's a fraud space pillaring someone before they've been found guilty. Let's just say that totally. It's a little dangerous to do that. So let's wait and see. Yeah, absolutely, but no one's excusing that kind of comment. If it gets made, if it's established, that's that's what's happened to here. All right, We're gonna check traffic eight double two three double o double is anamy can textas too on zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, will try. It's a high risk space. The old text line this morning is at yeah, absolutely, have to read twice and very carefully. Let's check.
01:46:31
Speaker 4: You've got to read them and then you've got to actually that if we read that out, that's completely defamin that's well, that's what we're saying, Yeah, exactly, or it's vilification, or it's just demented.
01:46:42
Speaker 2: Let's check. Enjoy your outdoor area all year out of an open and closing groof design matter factur and it instored locally by Loophouse David.
01:46:49
Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings five double a Breakfast ten.
01:46:53
Speaker 2: To nine was anyone at the corn Cup? Extraordinary scenes there? I would and correspondent Dave Lloyd, Texas, Now please don't kid next fit of moment ago saying regarding today's front page. I was at the corn Cup saw it all unfold. A horse broke free, a scratched horse broke free from the person holding it, and then caused all sorts of drama that was potentially the front page picture. Is extraordinary.
01:47:20
Speaker 4: So it was Darryl Carrison, who's a trainer, a horse trainer at Morpherville.
01:47:25
Speaker 2: He was watching it.
01:47:26
Speaker 4: It was the first race at the corn Cup meeting and he saw this horse, the scratched horse, as he said, will break free from an attendant. The attendant was holding it by the reins behind the starting gate, but the horse took flight and it started galloping in the opposite direction, heading straight into the group of horses that were flying around the track. In the ration, Dave Lloyd was there.
01:47:47
Speaker 2: We've actually just got him on the line now, Albert and correspondent Dave, Good morning, Where were you in this all unfolded and at what point did you realize something potentially bad was about to happen?
01:47:58
Speaker 21: Well, morning, boys.
01:47:59
Speaker 15: I was pretty much next to the bloke that jumped the fence when he ran out onto the track, so he was only a couple of people away from me and the fence is sort of waist high, just above waist high. So when I sort of heard it clambering around and he jumped over, I looked and thought, what's going on here? I've initially had bad thoughts about what he was trying to do. And then yeah, spotted off to the right. The Yeah, the loose horse was coming clockwise around the track the wrong way, straight towards the field, coming.
01:48:27
Speaker 9: Towards the post.
01:48:28
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
01:48:30
Speaker 15: He jump took his jumper off. He was twelve, and his jumper around his head or there was a moment when the horse was probably five meters from him that anything could have unfolded. So he was very lucky. He looked was pretty courageous to go out there and do it, but he himself was very lucky that the horse just didn't career straight into him. And then yeah, as the field sort of got about one hundred from the final post, they spotted him and started to pull.
01:48:53
Speaker 9: Up as well as they could.
01:48:54
Speaker 15: Obviously they all flat out at that point, so yeah, they sort of beard and the horse remained loose for a little bit. I mentioned eventually got.
01:49:01
Speaker 9: Hold of it.
01:49:02
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the photographs are unbelievable as well, Ryan Mcallis to the photographer.
01:49:09
Speaker 15: Sorry, mate, Yeah, they probably only missed each other by about for three to four meters, I guess the oncoming traffic.
01:49:14
Speaker 4: So the group of horses that were racing, they were they were still racing full tilt, weren't they, Dave?
01:49:22
Speaker 15: Oh? Absolutely, They were probably only one hundred meters from the finish so they were absolutely flat chat when they spotted him, and they probably crossed paths about forty or fifty out, so they'd sort of managed to change their pace, but they're still going pretty much flat clapper and slow. So was the other one going the other way?
01:49:37
Speaker 2: Did the result of that race stand?
01:49:39
Speaker 16: No?
01:49:39
Speaker 9: No, it was a no race. They declared it a no race.
01:49:41
Speaker 11: So that was my only winner for the day. I got my money back.
01:49:48
Speaker 2: What advantage point of seeing that our one? Fild Dave, thank you? I was in Corn corresponding exactly right. Ray from Semaphore Park was also there. Where were you ra when it all happened?
01:49:59
Speaker 8: Right by the.
01:49:59
Speaker 24: Winning when it all happened, I saw the other horse coming around the ben, coming straight towards and I thought this is going to be as catastrick they here and it was lucky another blow that jumped out and tried to turn the horse away. Did what he done because there was going to be a terrible tragedy there that happened that they want to collide it.
01:50:19
Speaker 2: He's incredibly brave what the trainer did, wasn't it ray?
01:50:23
Speaker 4: Oh?
01:50:23
Speaker 2: It was.
01:50:24
Speaker 24: Yes, he did a great job to get out there and do what he did. But what should have happened? That horse should have been removed from the track when they first took it at the late grating. It should have been taken off the track, not left on the track by somebody.
01:50:36
Speaker 2: Did you see it come loose ray from all where you were.
01:50:39
Speaker 24: Standing, Yeah, I saw it coming up from the start to the finish.
01:50:44
Speaker 2: Cracky Jesus. It doesn't take much imagination to real to think how bad that could have ended. What a story, right, thank you? Yeah, I'll tell you what everyone should pick up the ties of this morning. That is one of the great photos. It's extraordinary.
01:50:57
Speaker 4: It looks like it almost looks like it's the whole series of photographs. Yeah, it's the whole story told in pictures. It's just brilliant.
01:51:04
Speaker 2: If you'd seen that photo in isolation pop up and social media, you go, or that's some AI photo. Yeah, yeah, And of course from the angle that the photos taken, you don't get an appreciation of what kind of gap there is between the rogue horse and the field. So it looks even closer than three meters. Just amazing. How about the guy that we need to find, the guy that ran out with his jumper toiling in the air.
01:51:29
Speaker 4: Well's that Morphotville. We'll try to track him down.
01:51:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a good chat. There's gonna be a big story that's going to unfold a little bit later today in the Federal Court who they're going to hand down a decision on a story that dates back to COVID times in twenty twenty. You might recall, and I remember us talking about this on the program at the time, Quantas said they can to outsource their entire ground handling workforce. In twenty twenty eighteen hundred people. They were taken to the Federal Court by the Transport Workers Union. The court has ruled that they did act illegally in outsourcing the workers and preventing them from accessing industrial rights to collectively bargain and take industrial action against that decision. So the court can find them up to one hundred and twenty one million dollars. That is QUANTUS on top of the one hundred and twenty million dollars compensation fund which workers are now going.
01:52:20
Speaker 4: So so because there's a compensation fund, Yes, that's for the work, that's giving money to the workers. But if is this like a one hundred and twenty one million dollar pay day for the Transport Workers Union.
01:52:31
Speaker 2: Because would they get the money, and it'd have to be for those affected, it have to be for the victims of it. Well, maybe technically that is the union because it was the union that wasn't allowed to undertake industrial action. Yeah, that's right. Here is the union's boss, Michael Kane.
01:52:45
Speaker 29: We're hoping that the judge imposes a significant penalty today so that QUANTUS understands it should never ever have done this, and every employer in the land understands that if you treat workers illegally, you will be held accountable.
01:52:58
Speaker 4: We'll get some clarity around that a bit later today, and maybe we should save this one for tomorrow because we're going to be out of time for calls now. But I always think whenever I hear from the Transport Workers Union Michael Kane, who's got a name that everyone immediately says, oh a a a Michael Kane.
01:53:14
Speaker 2: We should said that half an hour ago. That I mean good, we should have played it after exactly right. Johnny says, we can do it tomorrow. My name is Michael Kane, and you'll go lower than that. It was sad news overnight as well. The wonderful act de Terrance Stamp has died at the age of eighty seven, perhaps best known for his role as General Zod in Superman. I am General Zod, your ruler.
01:53:40
Speaker 3: Yes, today begins a new order.
01:53:46
Speaker 2: So you are a general and who is your superior? My answer only to the President, and he will answer to me. I know what's try to say originals you know the best, but that's that's the That is Superman, that movie.
01:54:03
Speaker 4: He's probably better in Australia for Priscilla.
01:54:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course.
01:54:08
Speaker 4: He was famous in the sixties for basically being a well complete Bay magnet. He was Jeanie Shrimpton's boyfriend Jeanie Shrimpton right, famous wearer of the mini skirt at the Melbourne Cup. But he was sort of part of that whole cool Britannia vibe. Where you know, basically seemed to spend his entire life getting around cor for you in a white suit with leggy models, leading what you could describe as a charmed life. Then he found it hard to get work after the sixties because everyone sort of the sixties icon in Terence stand didn't get any work for a while, and Superman got his career sort of.
01:54:46
Speaker 2: Back on trap. Well, that was nineteen seventy seven, so a lot of time had passed.
01:54:50
Speaker 4: He was just jumping into the Mediterranean without his shirt on for about ten years before that.
01:54:55
Speaker 2: Was it's hard to have too much to be for someone who was looked. We're struggling to cast you because you can and considered such an icon of mail attractiveness, but it's hard to associate you with anything else. Yeah, you know, ah, what a poor fella, What a plight to befall someone. Hey, let's quickly check the field situation before we leave this morning. Better to be a member with RAA road service, the cheap spots, the mobile tyrans will Henley Beach Road dollar fifty three point five and the BPX Convenience Brooklyn Park also on Henley Beach Road. Good stretcher to get petrol this morning dollar fifty five point five diesels up over a dollar seventy. It's pretty good. At Sunny Book Drive in Windvale, the United there's at a dollar seventy one point nine and the Liberty at Seafored Down South and Main South Road dollars seventy two point five are out of time. Graham Goodings is coming up. We'll catch you tomorrow morning from six o'clock.
01:55:39
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast