More Than a Facility: The Dugout’s Community Mission

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The following is a presentation of FFM Radio Voices of
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our region stories for everyone.
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Pretty please be joined by Chris Burns, general manager for
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the Dugout, located in Bedford, Nova, Scotia. Chris, thanks for
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taking the time to chat. I guess the first question
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right off the bat. What's the Dugout?
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The Dugout is a indoor baseball and softball facility catering
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to ballplayers of every age.
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How did you get into wanting to start the Dugout?
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It started about a year and a half ago. I
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got in. I started a girls' fastball association to Fall
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River and Sackville lw F Frenzy, and we were working
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out in gyms like we all do. And I have
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a buddy of mine and now partner, Jared Timmins. His
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boys are in Tri County and they're doing the same thing.
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They're working out in gyms, working out, you know, thirty
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minutes away at a dome. And I said, and we
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really need to start looking at spaces and start our
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own spot for our kids and for our community and
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for you know, the people that we are close with.
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Talk a little bit more about the Dugout and all
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the different things that you have here and that you
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can do here. But let's learn a little bit about
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who you are. Let's go back Chris Burns the younger years.
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You know, what were you like as a kid, What
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sports did you play? How'd you get into playing ball?
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My dad growing up in Newport Station. The fields you
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drive by going down the valley, that's where I first
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jumped on. We moved around quite a bit, but baseball
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was always our thing. To catch hip balls in the yard,
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and it was from jump my love and passion. I
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played other sports, played basketball in the winter, all the
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school sports, volleyball in the fall, badminton. I was a
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provincial badminton champion, singles, mixed doubles and yeah, but yeah,
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I played all the school sports. Never skated in my life,
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so I don't have that. I don't have that fixation
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with hockey. But yeah, baseball was always what I did
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other sports for, whether it was the conditioning of basketball,
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the movement. I was the slowest guy on every team
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I played on, but was the shortstop or second basement
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like you usually don't get that. Usually your best athletes
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are playing up the middle, and I was just a leader.
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I consider myself a leader of every team. And yeah, that's.
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Maybe just a couple of highlights as you look back
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over the different teams you've played on, the different levels
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you played on, just for you personally, just a couple highlights.
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Yeah. So the first one was you thirteen playing in Fredericton.
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Our arch rival was the Newcastle Cardinals and they had
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broken our hearts kind of every year up to that,
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including that year to go to Nationals and I was
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lucky to be picked up to pitch and play short
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for them, and my coach, Bev Doyle, he was not happy.
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It was It hurt his heart to have me play
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for that team, but you know, it was a highlight
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for me because it was my first real recognition like hey,
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you can play and other people watch you to play.
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Fast forward to two years later, his son is on
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my team U fifteen played for Refrecton Royals and we
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went to Nationals. We won. I pitched the semifinal game,
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hitting third and playing short to win and just the
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joy of you know, the big thing here is to
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go to Nash is to go to Nationals. That was
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the goal and to win that right with that group
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of guys was pretty special.
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It's remarkable. I always find it remarkable how regardless of
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how old you get, you can always remember sports highlights
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from your life going way back. In your case, you're
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talking about you thirteen, U fifteen, You've got this passion
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for ball. How much did that play a role? I
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mean that might be the obvious question, but how much
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did that passion play a role in you wanting to
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get the dugout off the ground. Yeah?
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I was very lucky, so the leadership component of it
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as I kept growing and my playing career went out
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west of a Prairie baseball academy dropout, you know, played
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one year of college baseball, and it came back and
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got on with the dry here and started catching, which
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was a completely different leadership piece. And then that rolled
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into kind of coaching. You know, with the senior club,
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when you're the young guy, you have to fight for
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every at bat and every inning. And yeah, it quickly
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turned into me coaching. I was enjoying going to the
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park to help the fifteen year olds more so than
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go into grind out senior at bats, and that taught
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me a lot. I was very lucky to have good
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mentor in Jim Moser, who is you know he's an
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educator and just challenged me, as a young coach to
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really evaluate how I communicate, how we make decisions on
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the field and off the field, and how those impact
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the young men and now young girls that look up
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to you and who are there for your guidance and
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support in the game. So pulls me to this was
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how can I help our community? And this is it.
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You know, the facilities, the turf space that we have,
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the pitching machines that we have, they're not readily available,
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and in most sport organizations and teams, your best ability
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is availability. And currently right now you can book online
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and come in and bring a couple of your buddies
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and go and feed the machine and take around balls
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and just love this game.
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When I first walked in here today to meet you
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and to chat with you, I had never been in
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this facility before, And within thirty seconds of me being
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in here, I was transported in a time machine back
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to my younger days of playing ball out in the field,
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putting a masking tape square on the side of my
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house and throwing balls. Added pitching balls and strikes. I
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was fascinated by what's available in here. You mentioned the
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pitching machine. But there's there's a mound with a pitching
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rubber that's actually raised like a baseball mound. There's pitching
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machines that can pitch both softball and baseball. There's a
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screen that you showed me that has a bunch of
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different options for pitching in different teams, different ballparks. I
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don't want to talk all about it because I just
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got here, but again, it just it transported me back
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to when I was a kid and how much I
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loved just any chance I got throw a ball, catch
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a ball, pitch a ball, five hundred up, base runners, whatever.
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Maybe just break down what's available here that people can
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do some of the kind of basics of the pitching
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and the hitting, but also that really cool technology.
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So that's that's where we are as a society and
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as a sport community hockey, baseball, everything's metrics. We watch
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a ballgame and no longer is it you watching Ozzie Smith,
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you know, do a backflip and a glove toss. A second,
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it's how hard is this sky pitching? How how fast
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is that back the ball coming off the bat? What's
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the exit velocity and launch angle? So that's really what
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the the hit tracks is able to give is real
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life numbers that you can compare yourself for good or bad.
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You know two guys we see on TV every night,
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and it's a good training tool and it's also a
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good fun, recreational laugh And that's set up for everybody.
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For softball guys and girls who want to come in
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and and just see how hard and far they can
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rip it. Or you know, the teenagers who are really
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pushing and training off off facility to get stronger and faster.
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It's it's good benchmarks for them to say, Hey, this
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work that we're putting in the gym and paying trainers
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to help with, they're paying off in this manner.
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All the different things that are here. Maybe just tell
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me a little bit about who can come and take
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advantage of this. I'm thinking obviously players who are honing
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their skills and trying to get to the next level.
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But I'm also thinking guys like me, we haven't played
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ball in a long time. We have a few buddies
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that might want to come out and take a few
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hacks or pitch off the mound, might want to come
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out here as well. So again, just kind of who's
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this facility for and what levels can take advantage of
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what you got here.
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Absolutely, so to put it in perspective, we have four
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batting cages and at any given point, at any given night,
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there can be a group of you nine girls who
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are brand new to the sport, the kentful Wildcat pitchers
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who are getting prepped for their season, softball teams who
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are love to rip, and they're all working in the
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same space and they're all smiling and sweating and just
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enjoying the game. That's it's for everybody, And that was
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the real thought process behind this was this is not
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strictly a high caliber training academy and it's not just
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for kids to come and run around. This isn't a
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playground nor in a high academy. We welcome all and
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we are lucky that, you know, like Mark Smith with
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Canada East, this is a newly founded softball academy where
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he is dedicating this you know, retired, I'll put that
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in quotation. Mark's part of his baseball or fast pitch
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coaching and he's dedicating time and energy to these young
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women and men in this space to really go to
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the next level.
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One of the coolest things when I was first in here. Yeah,
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the pitching machines are great, the technology, the hit tracks,
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all that, but I realized that I was standing on
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really cool squishy field turf.
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Yeah, I need to.
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Know, Chris, tell me about this turf.
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Yeah, this is this is actual baseball turf. It's three
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quarters vintage thick. I don't know if that means anything
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to anybody, but it's it's thick, it's squishy, it's getting
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worn in every day, which means the hops are going
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to stay truer. It's what you want to train on.
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It's what if you went down to Florida today or
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in January that the fields are made of. So we're
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very lucky that we are able to have it here,
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and anybody who takes a ground ball off of it
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or hits it like it's it's staying really true.
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The other cool thing I remember being a kid, there
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was nothing worse than looking out and seeing, oh no,
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it's pouring rain. We can't play outside today. This facility,
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it's indoors, not affected by the weather. So I guess
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that leads me into asking you about You know, I
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know that you're a new entity, but operating hours when
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you open how can people find it, access it, book it, etc.
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Yeah, we have a wonderful website that I like. I'm
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partial to it. All the booking can be done online.
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I am the contact email, the phone number. You get me.
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You can book online. We'll answer any questions for you
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Monday to Friday five to ten and on the weekends
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nine am to ten pm. We're very lucky that if
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we get a special request for you know, business outings,
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team building stuff, we can usually make the day's work.
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You know. We're very lucky that we can do that
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and open up this place so people can experience it.
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We do birthday parties. Some of the funnest times are
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in here and on the big side where the two
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cages can become one. Kids are throwing footballs at soccer
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balls and they've got our little bases set up. They're
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playing wiffle ball. We had moms in here ripping the
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other day with their boys, like it's a blast. It
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really is a blast.
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What's the web address?
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Www? The dugout ns dot com.
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When I was looking around again, as I said, I
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was transported back to being a kid, and then I
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remember it, Oh my gosh, you know what I don't
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think I have a ball glove anymore. So if me
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and a couple buddies are sitting around talking about, hey,
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we should go to the dugout, but we don't have bats,
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we don't have balls, we don't have gloves anymore. What
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do we do?
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Yeah, we have gloves here that are personal ours and
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gloves that have been donated and dropped off, so that's
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not a problem. We can usually facilitate. I don't know
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if we have any lefties in here, but we probably should.
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And we're actually lucky. We have a pop up shop
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provided by Sport Wheels, and they have demo softball bats,
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and there's new baseball bats coming in here. The bb
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Core have been implemented, so they're no longer using wood
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at you eighteens now bbcorn going back to metal, and
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we're going to have some demo bats in here. And yeah,
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so we can usually help you out.
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We'll wrap up with the here in a second. And
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it's been great to have the time to chat with
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you about this really cool facility, and I would encourage
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people to check you out online, to come down have
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a visit, have a look around. I know that I'm
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just be and my experience is in everyone's. But I
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would imagine that anyone who has been connected the ball
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at any level, at any point in their life are
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going to come in here and go, oh boy, I
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got to come in here and toss a ball, or
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hit off the pitch machine, or and swing the bat
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a few times. But again, just before we wrap up,
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kind of sum it all up, what do you want
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people to know about the dugout? Right from your heart?
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Yeah, from my heart, this is a space for us
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who love ball. Whether it's a white nine inch ball
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or a glowing yellow softball, you're welcome. And you're group
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of people, however eclectic or athletic you are or aren't,
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this space is for you and you're welcome here. The
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music's always going during the nights. We just want people
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feel welcome here. That's and that's truly from my heart,
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is that when people come in stay, you laugh, you
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work hard, and that you leave smiling. You know. That's
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that's the best part.
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And I want to leave it on this because we
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are talking baseball, and I'm going to talk agor leagues
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for one second. For me, a couple of moments that
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are forever etched in my mind as an Expos fan
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Blue Monday when Rick Mounday hit that home run off
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Steve Rodgers. Not a happy memory, but it's the air
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and Joe Carter's walk off, Roberto Alamar hitting the home
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run off of Eckersley. Those are a couple that stick
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out for me right now, without thinking about it too much.
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Give me a couple of iconic baseball memories that are
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burned in your mind.
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Any any Jeter, backhand jump, throw, the flip. Those are
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the moments where, if you're watching the game, the things
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that don't happen very often, you know, on a on
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a Tuesday night, where something remarkable happens. Man, there's nothing better.
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And then you go to October, you know, and you
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just sit there and it's freezing cold, and you know,
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we've all seen our our Octobers at Beasley Field when
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the fog rolls in and you're freezing, but you're still grinding.
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It's sweating. I don't know how that happens when it's
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five degrees and you're sweating, and man, it's it's it's
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the uncommon things. It's the time in between the plays.
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It's the non verbal contact that happen without without even
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trying that really make you fall in love with the game,
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and that's what I love well.
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I think my favorite thing about coming here today, other
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than getting the chance to meet and chat with you,
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is just how this facility has taken me back to
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my youth and my true roots of loving the game.
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So I want to thank you for your time. I
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want to encourage folks to check you out online the
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dougout ns dot com com and come visit the facility.
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I don't think that you will leave without a smile. Chris,
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thanks for your time. Look forward to chatting to you
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again soon. Thanks Scott, appreciate you coming in. Been a pleasure.
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That is Chris Burns. He's a general manager of the
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dugout in Bedford. Again give them a check online at
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the dougout ns dot com. Until next time, Scott Squire
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saying so long and remember friends, if you can't take
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part in sport, be a good one anyway, talk to
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me soon.
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