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We’re kicking off Season 2 of Engineering Quality with a very special guest - Lisa Crispin, a true pioneer in agile testing and one of the most influential voices in the quality engineering community.
In this episode, Lisa joins Ale, Veronika, and Royalee to explore holistic testing - an approach that goes beyond “testing early” and looks at quality across the entire software development lifecycle.
We discuss:
What holistic testing really means (and why it’s more than shift-left)
Why quality is a shared responsibility across the whole team
How to build shared understanding before code is written
Practical techniques like risk storming, example mapping, and pipeline mapping
How testers can influence change without authority
The power of relationships in DevOps and modern teams
Whether you’re a tester, developer, product manager, or engineering leader, this episode offers practical insights and inspiration to help you build better software - together!
Connect with Lisa:
🌐 Website: https://www.lisacrispin.com
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacrispin
🦋 BlueSky: @lisacrispin.bsky.social
Follow us on social:
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References & People Mentioned in this Episode:
- Risk Storming by Beren Van Daele
- Mapping from Matt Wynne
- Ashley Hunsberger
- Abby Bangser
- Practical Guide to Testing in DevOps - By Katrina Clokie
- The Quality Coach's Handbook - Anne-Marie Charrett
- The Paradox of Choice
- XMind - Mind Mapping Tool
