Episode 11: ZeroJet

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And welcome to episode 11 of the Electrified Marina podcast.
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I'm your host and producer, Brooks Lawson.
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And Eric Pinzon from Electrified Marina.
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Today is August the 10th, 2025.
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This show is brought to you by us at Electrified Marina.
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Eric, do you want to take us away with some announcements?
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Yeah, we had an awesome event at Lake Anna a week ago.
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It was sold out, you know, we filled up all the seats.
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It was kind of the perfect waterway for us.
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It was the right size and half the lake
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does not have marina fuel.
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We're going to be doing another event there
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here in a month, September 27th.
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Obviously, this podcast we're announcing
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a zero jet partnership and a lot of exciting things there,
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kind of an untapped market here in the US.
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And we just partnered with, we're working on Volaire,
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actually this company.
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They've got a really cool catamaran coming out.
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Smaller pleasure boat, 23 feet,
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but it's got hydrofoil assist.
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They've got a very interesting powertrain.
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More news to come on that.
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I'll be going down there here in a couple of weeks
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to kind of debut the boat.
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Perfect, and our guests today
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are Chris Baird and Ian Pierce from ZeroJet.
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Chris or Ian, whoever wants to take this question,
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why don't you start us off with a little bit
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about who is ZeroJet?
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What is the company, what do you sell
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and what are kind of like the origins of the company?
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Just a quick.
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Yep, very quick.
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ZeroJet is a marine electric jet business
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based in New Zealand.
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Everything is designed, engineered
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and manufactured in New Zealand.
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For those that don't know,
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New Zealand is at the bottom of the world,
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one stop before the Antarctic.
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But very, very strong marine background
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in regards to the products
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that you would have seen around the world.
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And yep, we've got a tight team
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and I think we're in our fourth year or fifth year.
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And you're launching a new partnership
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with Electrified Marina.
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Can you guys tell us about that?
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Absolutely.
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So watching the market over the last solid year or so,
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we were absolutely going to enter into America.
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We're in Europe and we're in other parts of the world.
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America was one that you need to take seriously
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and we were watching Electrified Marina
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and my opinion is they're absolutely ahead of the market
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for marine electrification, which is fantastic.
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I love what they're doing.
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I love their passion.
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I love what they're doing out in the marketplace
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which is where they're taking products out to customers
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and getting them, as we all say in the industry,
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bums on seats to get people out in the water
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and actually experience it.
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And I think that's really something
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that really tickled our fans here at Zero Jet.
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So thankfully, Eric and Aaron are wanting to partner with us
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and we've signed the agreement
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and we're about to put a press release out the next day or so.
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Excellent, Eric, everything you want to talk about that?
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Yeah, no, we're super excited.
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It's a market that's pretty untapped
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in terms of jet propulsion.
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I was just talking to somebody from Europe
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in the PWC space about jet propulsion
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and I brought up Zero Jet in the conversation
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and I said, even if you guys don't enter into PWC,
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Zero Jet's kind of the only game in town
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and it's such a huge market for it.
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I'm not sure the statistics in terms of volume
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but there are so many people that run jet boats out there
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and whether it's the tender in the dinghy market
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or the small pleasure boating market,
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whether it's the maintenance side, the safety side,
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the draft of the boats, it is an untapped market right now
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and the electric already has a long way to go
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just on the propulsion side, but in terms of jet,
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it's like, I would say a few years behind,
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there's nobody competing in that space yet.
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So we're pretty excited to bring it to market
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and we've got a list, probably a dozen people
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waiting to go for rides on these boats.
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It's exciting.
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Great.
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Awesome.
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And Zero Jet has just no cost to their customers
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up to power output from 18 to 22 kilowatt
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on the existing platform.
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Can you tell us about that?
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Ian?
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That's absolutely true.
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So we started off at this 18 kilowatt
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and we found that we'd been quite conservative,
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eventually, so we've moved on from there
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and a lot of people came back to us and said,
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we just want to have a little bit more weight on the plane.
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We want to have a little bit more energy from our boat.
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So we heard the market and we stepped back in.
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We've developed a 22 kilowatt system, no extra weight,
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no extra cost to the customer, just the evaluation.
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And it's 25, 30 horsepower or so
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for everyone here in the US.
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And it's kind of perfect too.
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We always talk about markets and where electric propulsion
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makes sense because they try to be brutally honest
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with this stuff and if you're going to go offshore racing
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or offshore fishing or wakeboarding eight hours a day,
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there's times where it doesn't make sense.
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But in the dinghy and tender market,
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you're not taking one of those little boats very far.
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And if you're putting it on the back of your sailboat
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or you're going in and out of the harbor,
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it's the perfect use case for it.
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And then it's funny because in terms
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of the charging side of things,
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the amount of yachts and huge sailboats
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that have gensets running overnight,
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they already have the ample power there
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to charge these things.
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So it's kind of this perfect match for it in a way.
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And not to mention not having to carry gasoline on board,
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the flammability of it, the liability of it,
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most of those are powered by diesels already.
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So it's just one extra fuel they'd have to worry about
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and now it reduces that.
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So I just found out that 22 kilowatts
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is 29.5 horsepower.
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So just under 30 horsepower.
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Nice, there you go.
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Technical upgrade.
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I like it.
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And then you're also going to be debuting
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a 30 kilowatt version soon?
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That's a scoop.
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So yep, first publicly noted
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that we're going to go to the world
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at a place called Matts,
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which people in the industry know.
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It's a marine equipment trade show.
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It's the biggest in the world.
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It's November in Amsterdam.
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And we will be publicly releasing the 30 kilowatt
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in the same format of the jet we have today.
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And again, we've just had some brilliant designers
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that design engineered something
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that we're able to keep pushing and it keeps taking.
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So we're thrilled.
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Again, great credit to the New Zealanders
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in regards to what they've designed.
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It really is a special piece of gear.
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So that allows us to go from 15 kilowatts
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for our smaller ACT tenders,
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which are lightweight carbon fiber up to 22 kilowatts
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for your sort of standard again tenders
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and now up to 30 kilowatts.
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30 kilowatts for American terms
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is around about 40 horsepower.
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Nice.
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And in terms of form factor, battery capacity,
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like what is that?
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On terms of the propulsion side,
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maybe not battery capacity.
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What does that look like?
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The additional weight or space that's required?
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The actual space itself is exactly the same
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as what we have today.
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So there's no extra weight.
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The only extra weight is actually the batteries.
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And obviously as you up your power,
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you up your batteries.
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So we'll go from five kilowatts for our 15
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to 10 kilowatts for our 22 to 15 kilowatt hour
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for our 30 kilowatts.
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Yeah.
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So in terms of boat availability
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on what size boat is that gonna go on
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stepping into the 40 horsepower space?
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Yep.
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So we'll comfortably do that sort of low,
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let's say I'm trying to put it into a feet.
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So it'll be from 3.2 meters,
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which is about 10 feet up to about 4.2.
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I don't wanna go any higher
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because again, we get into that weight situation.
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4.2 is around about, what's that, 14, 15 feet.
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And again, if we're talking about a tender,
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a small rips for one of a better word,
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that 3.2 to 4.2 is actually a really nice, sweet spot.
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And there's quite a lot of boats in that area.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting when we're chatting with a lot
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of the people that have been reaching out
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over the last couple of weeks,
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when we're telling them the OZ, the 330 is coming.
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It's like exactly what everybody wants.
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It's right in that sweet spot
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of the dimensions they're looking for.
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So we're pretty excited to get it.
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And so it sounds like we'll have one at Annapolis
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available for sea trials.
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So it's gonna be an exciting event.
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We're usually busy as it is.
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This year is gonna be, I mean, last year,
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we had people coming from the show that said,
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hey, you're the busiest part of the show.
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What are you giving out?
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What are you guys doing over here?
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And we're just giving out boat rides.
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We weren't handing out swag or anything exciting.
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We were just giving rides,
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but the buzz it creates in a show,
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especially like Annapolis is exciting.
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And so this upcoming year,
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we're gonna have more boats and the OC tender.
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So it's gonna be an awesome show.
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Great.
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It was interesting to see the IBI,
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which is a trade magazine for those that don't know
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for Marine, been around for many years or many decades.
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And they had a survey on Friday, actually,
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where they had 54% of US boat owners
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would consider going electric.
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However, 25% said they definitely would.
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Now, surveys are surveys.
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However, that is what we're feeling.
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Is that sort of, I would have said 20 to 25
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if someone had asked me.
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That means that we as the people
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that have the products need to make sure
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that we do with Electrified Marina and others
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is to get the message out
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and to get people to come and talk to us
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and have a look at what we've got
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and importantly get on to a boat and test it out.
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Yeah.
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And it's amazing how the lack of awareness
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that's still there.
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We're at our marina at Willoughby and Norfolk on Saturday.
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I was delivering a, delivering literally
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in the middle of an orientation
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with a jet ski and a guy walks over
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and he's like, hey, what are these?
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Like, oh, we deliver electric boats.
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And he says, well, but what about the jet ski?
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I said, it's electric too.
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He said, but where do you put the gas in?
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I said, no, no, it's electric.
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He said, no, where do you, so it's a hybrid.
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I said, no, it's 100% electric.
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It's amazing how far we have to go.
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I always tell people in terms of the market,
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like the amount of boats that are out there,
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the manufacturers that are out there,
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I always try to relate it to electric cars
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and that adoption curve and where that's at.
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And with the number of boats available,
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it's, there's, I would say it's 2014-ish,
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but in terms of awareness and education,
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I mean, we're like circa 2008,
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most people have never seen one in person,
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let alone know they exist.
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So we have such a long way to go in this space.
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And with our concentration at the tender market as such,
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or conversely, when we say a tender,
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I mean, I had a 4.2-metre high-field,
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which was the main boat.
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We're down on the water here at Sanctuary Cove
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in Queensland and we have a dock out the front of the house
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and for quite a while,
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the only boat we had was this 4.2-metre tender or rib.
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It was the main boat and plenty of people here
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in Southeast Queensland have a small boat
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in that sort of size just to get around
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and enjoy the waterways.
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And, you know, electric is, I mean, again,
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once you've done it, there's no going back.
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I mean, that's the great thing about it.
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Once you've done it, there's no going back.
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And the greatest thing about it is no propeller.
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You know, I really have to emphasize that.
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No propeller at the back of the boat is really important.
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And it actually makes it a very much more safer situation
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around kids and around anyone, to be honest,
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to be able to get in and out of the boat.
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And once you've done the jet,
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one of the things when we go cruising and boating
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and whatever is, is if you do have a tender,
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is being able to get over those, you know,
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low shallow reefs and, you know,
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do you know, Ian, what our draft is?
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It's tiny. What is the draft under a boat?
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In the region of less than 100mL a lot of the time,
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you know, like, it depends how much weight you put
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in the boat, but very, very shallow drafts.
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And we generally aim for an inlet.
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We need to be deep enough at the back to take our inlet.
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So generally we try and take the boat.
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So the back end of the boat is deep enough
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to suck water, essentially.
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And beyond that, it doesn't need to be any lower than that.
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So, yep.
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And so that's really important.
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And then if you've got tidal areas
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where you're going in, again, boating,
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and you've got that really shallow area.
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And, you know, what you can see is people
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that have the traditional outboard
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have to lean over the back, pull the outboard up,
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and then row in, right?
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And sometimes that could be, you know,
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200 yards, 3, 4, 500 yards because of the tides.
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So, you know, there's a whole range of great reasons
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why, you know, having a jet is a good thing.
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An electric makes it even better.
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Put it all together.
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I think that's why we're getting the queries
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we're getting all over the world.
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And from my point of view, Eric,
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it has just gone bang in for us in the last,
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I'm gonna say, really, four months.
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I can't believe saying that, but something's happened.
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It's just gone click.
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And suddenly we've really got this uptake.
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And one of the big ones for us is the battery technology.
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You know, we have a friend in New Zealand
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who's designed a marine electrification product.
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And it's taken, they did that about 16 years ago.
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It's taken for the battery technology
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to catch up with the other.
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So we're the same.
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So the battery case where we're going to solid state batteries
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or heading towards semi-solid state batteries
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is a game changer.
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And I think I read this morning,
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Toyota has just announced their,
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I mean, just announced their situation
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with solid state batteries.
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So the Japanese have been hiding away and doing their bit.
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That is going to really put things on its ear.
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So the great thing about it for our customers
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coming into electric boating
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is that it's just gonna get better.
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If we look at where we are on naturally aspirated engines,
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you know, that stuff's been around for 80 years.
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So, you know, 100 years.
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And the case is that, you know,
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what we're seeing now is this massive improvement.
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And that's what's exciting.
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And that's what's exciting for our customers
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is it just gets better.
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So, and now we can do increases like we just did.
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We took someone from 18 kilowatts to 22.
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That's about a 20% increase in, you know, output power.
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And we were able to do it with a software upgrade
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and an extra fuse and one cable.
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And that was it.
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And it's funny you mentioned that.
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I was just going back and forth
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with somebody on TikTok and he's saying
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how gas engines are perfect and we don't need to mess with them.
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And I always realize somebody's ignorance when they say that
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because they don't understand energy efficiency
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and how much is absolutely wasted in heat.
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And, you know, gas engines like on average 25, maybe 30%.
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And now we have motors that are in the 90% range.
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And, you know, we not even extraction processing
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anything that goes on before the gasoline
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gets to the spout gas and an engine is just a bismol
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in terms of energy efficiency.
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And I don't think most people are smart enough to realize
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that or understand how much energy
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just gets absolutely wasted.
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And like you said, we're at the early stages of this stuff.
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And I try not to get excited about,
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about brat battery breakthroughs
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because they've just been happening every day
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for the last couple of years.
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But it's gonna, it's something's gonna come
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to fruition here soon.
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And I'm not sure how quickly that's gonna trickle down
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to the boating market.
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You know, we're probably gonna be a couple years after,
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you know, BYD and Toyota get cars on the road,
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you know, doing it.
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But it really is only gonna get better.
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And at that point in five or 10 years from now,
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you know, when these people are, you know,
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ready to upgrade their battery packs
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and the prices are coming down, volume's going up,
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you know, the amount of R&D that's getting dumped
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into either semi solid or solid state right now
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is the biggest it's ever been.
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And so once you, once we get some economies of scale
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in our favor, it's gonna get to a point here very soon
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where it's not gonna make sense to buy a gas outboard,
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you know, or buy anything with gas propulsion.
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Obviously, if you want the nostalgia
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and you want the fumes or, you know, whatever it is,
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there's gonna be those die hard gas guys
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that are clenching it till death.
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But for everybody else, most of the common world,
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it's gonna be like, wait, this is less maintenance.
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I wake up to a full charge, it's silent.
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And it's gonna be a no-brainer.
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And that's when this industry is just gonna go gangbusters
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and I'm pretty excited to see that coming
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because it's even, you know, some of these announcements
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you see and it's like eight times as energy dense
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or 10 times as energy dense,
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let's just even double the energy density
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of what we have right now would be so disruptive.
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But the crazy part is the amount of opportunities
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that it works for people's use case
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with the current tech that we have.
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But a lot of these people don't know it exists.
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So it's, I don't know, I tried to,
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you go down to rabbit hole when you start talking
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about energy density and where things are going,
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but it's kind of crazy to think about where we are
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and what's gonna happen in the next few years.
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We're gonna be looking back at this and laughing, I think.
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I think you touch on a very, very important point there,
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Eric, which is we worry a lot about range anxiety,
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but quite often the solution is not give people more range.
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You don't need more range.
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It quite often compromises the boat in so many other ways
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to put more batteries in for the sake
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of putting more batteries in.
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So so many use cases, plenty of power.
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The way I see it is you can approach it from three ways.
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You can put more batteries in,
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you can charge those batteries in more places
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or you can convince people you've got enough already.
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And I think the last one is the easiest
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because that's so often the case is true.
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Then it's around to that, where do I charge?
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How do I charge?
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What do I do with my charging?
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As long as they're convinced that they can fill up,
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it's the same with a gas car.
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If you drive a gas car, you don't expect to go,
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and if you do a thousand Ks in your gas car,
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you expect to fill up, but you know you can.
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So as long as we've got that in place
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and they know they can fill up
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and they know that they've got this fixed amount
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and they know what they use,
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then I think we can really tackle that.
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Yeah, we're getting ready to release a blog post.
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She might've just sent it out, I don't recall,
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but I was just going over it and it was about range anxiety.
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But the biggest part of it is that it's that education side
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and it's these people that think an electric car
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needs to have 700 miles of range before they're by one.
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And whenever I hear somebody
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and it's usually more convincing in person
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and it's like, how many miles do you drive in a day?
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What's your round trip plus a trip to the gym
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and the grocery store and dropping your kit off
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and all of this and you add all this together
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and it's like, oh, that is 40 miles or 30 miles.
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And it's like, you're not doing hundreds of miles per day.
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And well, by the way, you wake up every day
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with a full charge.
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So it's, I think it's just finding the people
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with the critical thinking skills to realize
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they don't need tons of range.
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And then they say, oh, what about this road trip?
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And it's like, oh, the grandmother's house
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on Thanksgiving or Christmas.
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It's like, so you're buying a car
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for the .001% of your use case,
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not the 99.99%.
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It's just, there's not, I don't know,
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there's some people that don't grasp the skills
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to look at that logic and see how skewed or flawed it is.
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But when you really like pull up a map
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and you say, okay, here's where I go in my day.
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And I love it doing it at boat shows.
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And they're like, oh, it won't work for me.
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It's like, oh, you're off shore fishing?
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They're like, no.
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It's like, oh, you have a pontoon
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and you hang out at a cove or a sandbar all day long.
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But it's just getting down to the nitty gritty
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of what their day looks like
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and how they really use it.
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And especially in the tender market,
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it's like, wait, you have a huge sailboat
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that you go around the world in
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and you only anchor out in harbors
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and you need to go into the marine end back?
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That's your use case for your tender.
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But I think that that world of sailing,
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those people that are out there in the blue water,
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they realize range, they know their numbers.
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They've done it, they've calculated it,
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that they know what their fuel capacity is on board,
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their battery capacity, if it's a hybrid boat
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or all electric sailboat.
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But those people have already done the math.
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They've crunched the numbers.
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And I think that market is gonna be easier
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to tap into than anything.
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You know, I related a lot to pilots.
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When I talk to a pilot, I know very quickly
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because those guys are aware of reserves
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and miles and energy consumption.
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And I'm ignorant to just being in the US market,
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but we're not taught much in terms of physics
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or we're not exposed to a lot of it.
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So a lot of people don't grasp that side of things.
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So it's, I don't know, it's not as common
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as I think it is in the rest of the world.
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It's a steep learning curve.
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So Chris, do you wanna tell us about TechTracks?
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What is TechTracks and how are you related to that?
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So we just prior to Christmas,
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we merged another marine electric business
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into Zerojet, a company that's called TechTracks.
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TechTracks is a fully electric amphibious product.
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So it's the wheels that you see underneath the boat.
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Very, very strong in New Zealand.
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You know, the original one back there was Sea Legs.
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A lot of people would know Sea Legs.
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There's another company called Anura,
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which does it again based in New Zealand.
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And then we were based in New Zealand as well.
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So we've done, you know, well over 10 years
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working on the wheels.
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But again, our direction was we went full electric.
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The other guys have gone electric with hydraulics.
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As soon as you add the hydraulics in,
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you lose a hell of a lot of power at the wheels.
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We're saying somewhere around about 40%,
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we have more power.
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So we have an electric motor in each of the hubs.
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So if you've got three wheels,
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then we've got three hubs or motors,
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electric motors that are actually in the hubs,
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fully waterproof and drive the boat.
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So that's the TechTracks side of it.
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However, we're just launching as we talk
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what's called a boat launcher.
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That's trademarked and the boat launcher is as it sounds.
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It's not a trailer, but think of a trailer.
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It is an electric boat launcher that launches your boat
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and this is your boat.
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So you don't have to go and buy a high,
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you know, an amphibious boat
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and you have a full remote.
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So you hop on your boat, it's in your front yard.
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You drive it down to your lake or the beach
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or over the sand hill in front of you, into the water.
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And then when your boat comes off the boat launcher,
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you actually remote that back onto the beach.
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And that can be up to half a mile away.
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Take off, go and do your boating, come back
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and when you're offshore a little bit,
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then the same thing,
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you drive your boat launcher back into the water
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from your boat, drive your boat onto the launcher
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and you can have them coming in quite a lot deeper
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because you don't have a car to back it in.
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Come on into it.
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And then once as soon as you're onto that launcher,
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you're now, for want of a better word,
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like an amphibious boat.
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And then you drive it back up, up to your house
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or down the beach or whatever it is you have.
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So we are talking about people that live
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on a waterfront type property.
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Can go down roads, et cetera, but not normally.
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And the range is up to, you know, three miles,
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three, four miles, which is plenty.
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And really what we're trying to do is to help those customers
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that actually you're in areas where it's a bugger
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to go through going to your boat ramp down the road.
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It's chockers, you can't do it.
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And the other one is for older customers, you know,
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that actually want to just go out by themselves
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and actually go out boating,
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not have to have someone, you know,
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parking a car and doing the rest of it.
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They just want to go out and have a fish or do whatever.
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So that's called the boat launcher.
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We're looking at doing something in America
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very, very early next year.
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We're launching at Melbourne Boat Show
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in Australia in October.
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And we'll have 10 sold prior to Christmas
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because that's what we're doing at the moment to produce.
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We are going to get those 10 out into New Zealand
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as soon as we do those,
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when we've just been testing these on beaches,
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it's people are coming along and taking pictures
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and getting all excited.
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It's something that's quite different.
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So lots of people thought about this.
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This is a full production.
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We'll be working with quality trailer manufacturers
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around the world, supplying them the kit.
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They then build the launcher
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in the format that they would like.
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And we'll handle up to four tons.
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Four tons is a good size boat.
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You're probably talking about a good solid,
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you know, 26, 28 footer, easy.
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And so, yeah, so it's pretty exciting.
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And it just so happens that all three of those companies
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are based out of New Zealand.
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Yep, yep.
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So the boat launcher part is Tech Tracks.
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So it's a Tech Tracks boat launcher.
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So it's the two companies.
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And we merged the two together
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because again in this marine electrification area,
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you know, both companies were 48 volts.
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Both companies were doing the same thing with batteries.
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Both companies were doing something with the little screen.
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So to be able to get those synergies
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between the two companies has been great.
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And within what, seven months,
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we are miles ahead of where we were just last year.
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So it's pretty exciting.
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You know, I personally love the American market.
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I've had some success over there
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with a number of other marine companies.
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And I've got a lot of friends and, you know,
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and I love the shows.
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I'll be over at Fort Lauderdale Boat Show as an example.
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It's just a great place to do business.
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And as a, I'm an Aussie,
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but I run for some reason New Zealand marine companies.
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And it's exciting to take something
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into the American market
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because when you get into that American market,
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it is just enormous compared to anywhere else in the world.
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And you guys, you can do boating, you know?
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That's, you get into boating like, you know, like, wow.
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So, which is, which is really, really good.
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Yeah, let's, you mentioned the 48 volt side of things.
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Let's jump into a little bit really quick.
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We kind of skipped over at the tech side of zero jet.
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So 48 volt system, it's five kilowatt hour modules.
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And then in terms of maintenance, you know,
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what does that look like?
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You know, I haven't, I've ridden on errands before.
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It's a blast, but I'm curious, you know,
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the nitty gritty of the propulsion system itself.
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Absolutely.
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So today we, as you mentioned, 48 volts.
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We wanted to keep it as low voltage as possible
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while still delivering some punch, anything below that.
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And we're going to start getting into that
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really struggling to get any fun power out of it.
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48 volts is generally considered
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to be the kind of highest level.
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You can be a safe, touch safe voltage.
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So we went for that.
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The whole system is also to add to that safety
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is also IP67.
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So you can essentially chuck the whole thing in the sea.
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We were really concerned that small boats
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are often quite wet boats as well, you know,
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like once you get a bit of surf,
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you're going to get some splashes over the side
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and that sort of thing.
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Well, we didn't want any potential safety issues.
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Yeah, we went for that 48 volts for that reason.
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In terms of batteries, as you say, we've had two.
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So far, we've had released a five kilowatt hour pack
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which is split into two, two and a half kilowatt hour
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batteries.
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And there's also a 10 kilowatt hour pack available.
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We've just, as we've just discussed,
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the battery market is so progressive at the moment.
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Watch this space essentially.
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There's our battery systems will be getting more
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and more flexible as we go over the year.
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There'll be more and more options.
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There'll be more and more integration configurations
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that people can go for.
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And yeah, from other technical point of view,
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in terms of trying to think what your other question was on.
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Any maintenance or any inspections required?
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Is there any maintenance at all to it?
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There's, I don't know, different manufacturers
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that we deal with and sometimes it's like,
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oh yeah, they're doing this once a year
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or each time you get on the boat,
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I'm curious what that looks like.
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So we have aimed, the goal would be no maintenance.
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That is, that's what everybody wants.
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When you have moving things in salt water,
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that is a big, big ask.
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However, day to day, very low maintenance.
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When you bring your boat back, hose it down.
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That's it.
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There's no, the cooling loop is all closed loop.
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We have a keel cooler that just disperses the heat
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into the water as it's running over and into our intake.
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Beautiful.
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Elements that you would need to service
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have been made deliberately quite easy to do so.
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So taking the pump off is four bolts,
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just slot the whole thing off.
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If you get anything stuck in the grate,
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we have a reverse mode that you can press a button
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and blast it out backwards.
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If you can't do that, you just hook the grate off,
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you can get in that way,
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or you take the jet pump off with four bolts
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if you're really stuck and you can take it out that way.
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Things like bearings, they're all sealed obviously,
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not any sea water exposure to them.
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So they're a very, very low maintenance part.
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I'm not gonna say that they will be forever,
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it depends how long you keep your tender for, but.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And expect, and a lot of it,
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I've talked to some of these, some Tiger Jet Ski owners
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and there's some guys that ride them once a week
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and then there's some people that are on them
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every single day.
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And so it's always interesting to see,
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but I mean, some of these guys,
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it's like they hose it off and we'll check in with them.
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We delivered some over a year ago
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and it's like, hey, you need anything?
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Are you using it?
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Cause I don't, we don't have telematics access,
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the OEMs do, but, you know, I'm not looking at it remotely.
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So we're curious and we do check-ins with people
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and it's like, hey, how's it going?
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You're still using this thing?
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What's it look like?
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They're like, yeah, use it every day.
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I'm like, okay, awesome.
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You know, just checking in on you,
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but it's really cool to see.
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And I think you're gonna see that too
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with a lot of the liveable boards
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and a lot of these people
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on these catamarans and yachts that are using it.
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You know, it's gonna be like their daily commuter
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when they're going in, if they're at a mooring
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or at a harbor.
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I mean, from a product development point of view,
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that's what really excites us.
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You know, we want people out there and enjoying it.
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That's what it's for, it's there to be used.
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And as I say, it should be as spelt of a process
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as possible.
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You shouldn't need to do too much
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to get your enjoyment out of it.
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We've done the work so other people don't need to.
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That's the goal.
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And if you do get to the point
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where anything needs servicing,
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you can bring it into our dealers
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or you can, and for things like taking the motor off,
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taking the motor off is four bolts.
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You just slot it backwards, it's very easy.
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Whole thing comes apart very easily, very kind of.
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Everything is all of the components
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attached together through plugs.
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So there's no, it's pretty much a tool-free assembly
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for assembling your batteries to your jet pod
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and your display and your steering
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and that sort of thing.
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Our tiller system is probably the one thing
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that has something that you would,
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every once in a while it has a grease nipple.
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You squirt a bit of grease in there
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and you get to go just to make sure
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your tiller remains nice and smooth.
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And really the whole thing should be
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a very low impact for the users.
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That's awesome.
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It's crucial too when people are bouncing around the Caribbean
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don't have parts nearby or, you know,
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when there is maintenance or serviceability
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needs being able to pop off a motor
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with four bolts is pretty impressive
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compared to a full day job or anything too extensive.
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Very cool.
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I think it's important the backwash on the jet.
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So it's just a button we have, we've always had it.
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So just if you get a bit of seaweed stuck in your jet,
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you simply push the button
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and it just reverses the jet and just blows it out.
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And that's pretty well, to be honest,
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I can't even remember the last time we've had an issue.
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So we've been very good in regards to that.
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Some people think jets are a problem
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than maybe in the old days they were,
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but certainly from what we've had in our experience.
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I mean, you know, we've got people
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that have been travelling around the world
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on their cruising catamarans for a couple of years, a year.
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And yeah, no news is good news.
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So that's always a good thing.
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From our point of view,
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that's what we aim for is no news is good news.
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Yeah, and it's funny you say that,
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I just posted a video of a flux motor
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and I was like, hey guys, look how unique this motor is.
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It's got an integrated belt inside this thing
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and all these guys are,
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oh, that'll never work, literally hundreds of comments.
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And it's like, you have zero knowledge
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of the internal workings of this thing
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and flux motors has thousands of hours on these things.
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But everyone is just, you know, they're afraid
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or they're just oblivious of what they don't know,
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but they're so quick to hate on it
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or just to deny that it's usable.
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I don't know, it's always funny when you see that.
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And in terms of new tech,
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I think people are just triggered
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by what they're not used to.
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There's a lot of smart people at Princeton University
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and at flux, I think they might have it somehow.
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I'm curious on, you mentioned the 30 kilowatt announcement.
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Is there anything else you can share
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that's in the future for Zerojet
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in terms of market expansions
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or what else we might see here in the near future?
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Yes, but yeah, we've,
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I think probably the most important part
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is for a company like Zerojet
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is to partner with the right boat builders
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that are building, you know,
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either we're talking about ribs
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or we're talking about, you know, carbon fiber tenders
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or just general tenders, fiberglass.
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That's probably the exciting part.
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That's probably what's really happened over the last,
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you know, six to seven months.
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And if I said true, that it's turning into, you know,
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nearly a weekly arrangement
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where we're talking to another prospective partner.
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But one of those ones that on the electric jet side
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is where some people are,
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that it's a bit too expensive and that's fine,
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we understand that.
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And so everything we've done has been about
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how do we reduce the cost out of both the batteries,
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of course, which was the lowest hanging fruit
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and then the jet itself, and we've done that.
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And so we need to obviously do this
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with the situation of keeping the product,
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you know, reliable and doing what it should do.
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But at the same time,
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we've also got to make a price competitive
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for the standard customer to be able to buy.
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So we're doing a deal with a very well-known rib manufacturer
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that we would hope to announce sooner rather than later.
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And when I say that, maybe in the next two weeks.
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In the US.
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And we're trying to aim at, I can't say.
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So, and we're trying to aim at, you know,
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cracking an amount of money, you know,
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and getting this whole package out.
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And it would probably be close to nearly half
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of what we were selling not that long ago.
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That is huge.
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And then suddenly, you know, that opens us up.
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That takes out that real, you know,
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oh, it's a bit expensive and that's fine.
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To the stage of, oh, I couldn't afford that.
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You know, it's what?
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It's 20% dearer than an outboard with the whole package.
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But I'm now got an electric jet.
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So all of the advantages
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are having the electric jet side of it.
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So that's the exciting part.
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There's another one that we're dealing with
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with a joint venture, which is something that, you know,
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will happen later in the year
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in regards to being able to put some information out,
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but a boat that would come out next year.
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So all of these things are going on.
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We've got another manufacturer in China,
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another one in South Africa, another one in Croatia.
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So they're all in their different layers
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and they're all, their boats are quite different.
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But incidentally, tenders,
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there's millions of tenders around the world,
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obviously to associate with the boats that are out there.
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And there's my opinion, this shift that's happening now,
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especially when we look at the carbon fiber side
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with companies like OCT,
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are great, you know, great looking products.
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You know, they can handle a bit of roughness
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and they're light and they're really light.
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And the great thing that electric likes is light.
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So we'll be able to kick, you know,
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take two boxes really quite strongly.
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You know, light and strong is where carbon fiber
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comes into it.
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And there's a lot of movement in that.
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And for the end users, for the customers, the boaters,
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there's some really exciting stuff
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that's coming out in the next year
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that gives you something that's quite sexy,
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that you'll have a lot of fun on.
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And yes, it's with your mother ship.
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But hey, the tender becomes, you know, a real fun component.
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So, you know, we're quite bullish about where this is going.
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You know, we've concentrated on this.
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We haven't got out of our lane.
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This is what we do.
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And so just wait till you see it, you know, very soon,
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you know, what's going to come.
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And then the last one is that we are looking at seeing
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whether we could even push it out further from 30 kilowatts.
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So now we're really pushing, you know, technology or whatever.
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But, you know, all this does is allows us to just get
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into a little bit bigger boat.
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So every time we're at something, so for a full, you know,
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say 13 feet or whatever, you know, we want to get to 16 feet.
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You know, then we do want to hold around that 48 volts.
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That's our thing at the moment.
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You know, we don't want to go outside of that.
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There's lots and lots of companies
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that have outside of 48 volts.
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That's fine.
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You know, if they want to come and compete,
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come and compete with us in 48 volts and good luck.
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Yeah, I like it.
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You're bringing that up.
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It's bringing up the side of collaborations.
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And by the way, thanks for the three cliffhangers.
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But in terms of being brand agnostic,
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that's something we try to pride ourselves on.
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We'll work with anybody that makes a good product.
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And it's amazing because you guys as a propulsion company,
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you can kind of, you know, there might be some
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some modifications on the whole side
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or the mounting or transom side of things.
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But you guys really can work with, you know, any boat builder
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that's willing to adapt that puts your propulsion system on.
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So it's, I don't know, it leaves a much bigger market
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than if you were the tender builder, you know?
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So you guys can essentially adapt to any boat
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that can fit those horsepower requirements.
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And thinking about it, I'm going to put you in touch
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with these guys because they've got,
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I think a platform that might fit well with.
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They've got dual outboards on the cat that they're doing.
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But because the efficiency of the hull
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and the foil assist side of things,
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they don't need a ton of power.
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So I'll put you in touch after this, after this please.
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Shadding, but...
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That'll be great.
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Yeah. No, it's exciting.
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You mentioned the price point, you know,
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being a barrier to entry and being able to accomplish that
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without economies of scale.
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Because you know, everyone always compares it.
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Oh, I can get it, you know, a Honda outboarder,
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Yamaha for this price.
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Like they're making millions of those, okay?
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Like we're in the dozens and hundreds of our outboards.
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Like let it give us a couple of decades,
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give us some economies of scale
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and we can compete on price parity.
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But right now in the early stages, you know,
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most of the time we can't do that.
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But it sounds like, you know,
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you guys are going to be pretty damn close.
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That's going to be exciting.
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And usually barriers to entry are the price and the range
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and range becomes a non-issue in this space.
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So it's, I don't know, pretty excited about this here.
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I'm going to mark my calendar.
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We got two weeks from today, so I'm going to hold you to it.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to weigh in on the price point.
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The first question I think if I was listening,
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what I think was if you've reduced the price point,
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what have you reduced?
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And I'm going to weigh in that we haven't.
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That's what's great.
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That's what's great about our price point is that we are,
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we're now not only cheaper, more powerful,
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easier to fit for boat builders, but we're also lighter.
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So the system is now a good percentage lighter as well.
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So we ticked all those boxes.
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I think we, I think, well, I say we,
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the engineering team that sat out there
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did incredibly well on that
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and they really gone a long way with it.
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So, yeah, they are.
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And Wade is such a crucial piece with this, you know,
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whether it's on the back of your catamaran
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or you're dragging it up a beach.
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I mean, for a lot of these liveable boards,
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you know, these sailors,
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that's a very real world use case, you know,
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two people dragging this thing up the beach.
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And when it's three to 400 pounds versus seven to 800 pounds,
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I mean, that is a massive difference.
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That's a quality of life difference
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if they're when they're doing it every day.
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I've done, I don't know,
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probably a half dozen of these discovery calls
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with some people interested in the zero jets.
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And that is always a very big talking point,
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you know, whether it's the OCT side of things
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or the propulsion side of things, it's goes a long way.
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Yeah, I've got a 28 foot sea ray, an old one,
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because that's all I can afford,
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because I don't get paid much.
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And so, and we've got a little tender on the back,
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you know, with a little four horsepower outboard.
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And I'm not getting any younger.
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And when you try and take that four horsepower
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from the back of the boat down into the tender
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and everything's moving around or whatever,
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it is, you know, mine, the friendship is bloody heavy.
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And it's only four horsepower.
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And it's absolutely a pain on the backside.
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So, you know, to think that, you know,
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we can get away from having that or conversely,
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you know, you can get a nice light electric outboard,
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which would be the way I would go,
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you know, if that's what I was doing, 100%.
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And, you know, when you see people struggling with those
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and then filling it up with gas, you know,
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and spilling the gas and, you know,
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having to have gas on a boat
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when you shouldn't have to have gas on the boat.
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And especially when we talk about cruising boaters,
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you know, with something a little bit bigger, their diesel.
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And suddenly now we have to have gas on the boat,
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you know, and that is probably the big thing
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in regards to the tender market,
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is that we take that whole situation
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about having another type of fuel on the boat
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that is actually can be quite dangerous at times as well.
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So we just get rid of it.
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And so that's where a lot of the bigger boat manufacturers
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are looking at for their tenders.
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That's why we're getting approached.
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And I suppose what's happened,
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as I said in that last six months or so,
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is we're getting approached.
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We're not having to bash their doors down.
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It's they're coming to us
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and saying our customers are wanting this.
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And so, you know, really on the cusp of this exploding,
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you know, now it's happening.
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So we're gonna live that and get all the advantages of that.
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But member, when we get more people out,
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they're running around with electric jets.
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It just creates more people wanting it.
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And just like Tesla's used to drive around
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and suddenly there'd be three Teslas on the street,
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it's exactly where we're gonna go with this.
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So, you know, it's buckle in and let's get into it, have fun.
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Yeah, it's gonna be exciting.
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It's this ripple effect of exposure
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and it gets people talking and it's not at the boat shows.
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It's when people are bouncing around the Caribbean
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or at the BVI and they see this boat and they pull up
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and they just start asking them questions.
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I hear it from Aaron all the time.
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And I just sold a tiger,
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delivered a tiger to a guy yesterday and he got stopped.
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And he said he had four different conversations
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with people on his way home to South Carolina.
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And one of them is getting ready to come up for a sea trial.
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But, you know, it's a ripple effect of exposure
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that we need.
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And, you know, you mentioned the, you know,
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on board with the diesel and the fuel.
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It's like they already have the gen sets on there.
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Those that they already have the capacity.
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Charging this thing slowly overnight
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at a couple of kilowatts isn't gonna be difficult.
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But being able to remove the hazard
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and the liability of gasoline.
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And it's funny because people always bring up,
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you know, lithium ion batteries.
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And it's like, we've got that pretty well solved.
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And we're at the early stages of this,
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but it's all, their IP67 rated like it's gonna be okay.
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And gas boats are still, you said exploding.
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And it was kind of funny
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because it's like that's happening all the time.
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And it's just kind of accepted.
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Someone forgets a blower switch just in Cleveland,
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literally yesterday, it ended up with two or three
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boats on fire because someone forgot to run a blower.
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And thankfully nobody died.
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But imagine if electric boats were doing that every week
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during boating season, it was just accepted.
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And it's like, oh, yep, lost a few more.
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They would be illegal.
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We wouldn't be selling these things.
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But it's like, oh, forgot his blower, lost a few boats.
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And that's, I don't know.
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I don't think people realize the hazards
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and how flammable gasoline is.
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And being able to remove that off of a ship,
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we know that one of these cruisers that
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a lot of times it's not easy to find.
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When you're island hopping down there,
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like a lot of these people are,
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gasoline isn't always readily available.
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I remember watching the winds and he was running around
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with Jerry cans trying to fill up
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and the gas stations didn't have gas.
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It was kind of funny, but he's got a boat covered in solar
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and he's got diesel on for his jet set.
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Like he would have been fine, but it's interesting
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to see how the challenges changed there.
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Yeah.
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And they were a good customer,
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gone with the winds in regards to it.
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While they had their podcasts and stuff going on
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and their online presence, they did a great job.
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And they loved their OCT zero jet tender
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and actually really did a great thing for us
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and wave the flag, which was great.
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And actually one of those things just lastly is that
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we did a range challenge because we've decided
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that we want to prove some points about what you can do
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and Ian actually went out and did that.
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Ian, maybe just a quick run on what we did
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with the range challenge.
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Yeah.
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So there's a couple of islands in the Harake Gulf,
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Rangatodo and most of Tapu.
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They're actually just about joined in the middle.
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So you unfortunately can't do a lap of one.
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So we thought, well, we initially set out with
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this challenge, we'll go and do a lap of Rangatodo.
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And you've really got to get the tide to right
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to be able to get between the two and then you end up.
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So we thought, we won't do that.
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We'll do both of them.
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We'll see what happens.
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And it's about 16, 17 knots around...
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So it's 17, 17 nautical miles around the two islands.
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And I'll be entirely honest.
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We knew that if we were to go out and go full bore,
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we probably wouldn't make it all the way around.
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But we also knew that's not what people do with their boats.
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So we thought we'd go out and enjoy the ride.
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So we went out and we did about 16 knots.
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We did about eight nautical miles,
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just sort of hoofed it up to the top end of the island.
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And yeah, and then came on back around.
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And yeah, we went out on, it was not a perfect day.
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We decided that that was good.
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We didn't want to fake the conditions for people.
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And we had a little bit of a chop and we came on back
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and there was a bit of wind.
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And yeah, as we came back around the other side,
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we came back down a bit slower.
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And I'll confess with you, because we'd not done this
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and because there was quite a lot riding on it for us
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that we wanted to show that this was right.
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I sat there and I was like, I really, really hope we make this.
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And I'm not going to call it range anxiety
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because that's not something I want.
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But yeah, and then we just plotted back down the other side,
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about halfway down the other side,
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to kind of having a chat about it
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and start making bets on whether you're going to make it or not.
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And then we got back to the beach that we wanted,
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and that was fantastic.
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And we were like, great, we absolutely made it
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and we've got some great video with it.
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You should check it out on our website.
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There's a video showing the whole thing.
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The bit that got me though was once we were done
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and we'd finished and we'd wrapped up filming
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and this was supposed to be a real stretch for our boat.
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We were like, ah, well, the trailer's
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way back around the headland there.
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Should we just give it a go?
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We'll go and see if we can get back there.
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So we plotted back around for another couple of nautical miles.
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Absolutely fine.
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And it's that, again, it's that thing
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of thinking you need more than you do.
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And we had, yeah, it was brilliant, great, great day out.
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And as I say, zerojet.com, watch is doing it.
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It's a really, it's a worthy, worthy watch, I would say.
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And so next month, we're going to do the English Channel.
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So on a tender.
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So Electric Jet cross the English Channel in September.
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So again, you're the first to hear that here.
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But we've been planning it.
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And yeah, so, you know, again, same sort of thing.
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What we're trying to do is to go to an area
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and go when we're talking to someone in France
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or we're talking to someone, you know, in the Mediterranean,
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was, oh yeah, we took it across the English Channel.
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You know, so for someone that's using it as a tender,
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they go, oh, so if I can go across the English Channel,
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I probably can handle my, yeah, that's right.
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And so that one that we were just talking about
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was off Auckland.
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We want to do one, you know, in America,
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we'd like to do that with you, Eric, and the team.
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And maybe it's something where, you know,
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you go to one of those famous places, you know,
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like Martha's Vineyard or something, you know,
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somewhere where people can understand just gently
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because of where it is.
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Oh, you went from here to there and back.
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Oh, I know where you are.
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I get it.
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I can understand what it is.
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And you did that on one charge.
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So that's pretty cool.
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So we're definitely going to do one or two in America,
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but we'll get the English Channel out the way next month.
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I love it.
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It reminds me, Justin Dahlinger from Aqua Electric
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and Emile from Elveni.
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They just went out on a solar powered boat
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bouncing around Finland and completely solar powered.
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They went out on one charge and did like 200 miles
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and they were camping on different islands and everything.
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But like you said, people need to see those
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real world use cases, you know,
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they don't want to see it running in a lab,
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you know, with, you know, lab results from it.
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It's like, no, no, no, here's a video, here's proof.
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This was utilized as anybody else would use it.
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And we just need more of that out there.
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And, you know, I posted something recently
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on social media and it's like,
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we need more content creators for this stuff.
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We've got to get the word out there
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because without people seeing a day in the life
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of an electric boat owner, you know,
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they're not going to be able to relate.
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So I know I'm super excited to see it.
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I'm going to go check it out on the website,
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add it to my list and look forward to doing one here
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in the U.S. That would be exciting.
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Yeah, yep, absolutely.
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I think, yeah, Chris has obviously mentioned
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the winds have been a great, great custom sauce
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flying the flag and that sort of thing.
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That's one thing that's been really good for us though
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is to actually put the boat long-term
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in somebody's hands that we have regular contact with.
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And they did a video on range of the boat
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and, you know, they were out there.
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They had it for months and months
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and they said, we never came across a situation
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where we needed more, you know?
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Like they gave two very obscure examples
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with their old tender where they were like,
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we wanted to go on this huge day trip
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because of this really niche solution.
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And it's again, it's back to that
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what you were saying earlier of it's the 0.1%
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as opposed to the 99.9, which is, yeah.
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It was really nice to have that confirmed
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in the real world, it's good, it's really good.
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Yeah, you're talking about the 16 miles you guys did
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and all I picture is a sailboat out in a mooring field,
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you know, a half mile from shore, quarter mile from shore,
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just coming into the harbor, you know,
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to the marina for the day.
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And that's the 99%, you know, it really is
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unless you're some crazy adventure
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down in the island somewhere, like you mentioned,
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but it's very much that rear-world use case,
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which it's perfect for.
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Yeah, awesome.
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All right guys, we're coming in on our time before we go.
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I do want to ask you if you have any social accounts
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or any kind of websites you want to share with our audience.
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Yep, go on there.
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We, zero jet.com, dive into zero jet.com, it's excellent.
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Social accounts.
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Chris, you're going to have to help me out here.
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This is, this is your feel.
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Yeah, marketing, here we go.
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We've got marketing in the background.
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Look at this.
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Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and YouTube.
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Oh, there we go, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and YouTube.
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All of them, we got it all, all under zero jet.
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Or if you want to look up the boat launcher,
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you can actually just look up boat launcher.
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We actually own boatlauncher.com
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and we've trademarked boat launcher worldwide.
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So, so yeah, you can look up that one as well.
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But certainly zero jet, you know, online,
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you know, there's quite a lot of, of, you know,
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videos and people, you know, adding in what they've got.
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So, so we always like to get as much we possibly can,
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but yeah, so it's really, really important.
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Excellent.
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Well, thank you, Chris and Ian, for joining us.
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