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Somewhere in Trinidad tonight, there is an old woman who's about to peel off her own skin like taking off a jacket.
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Somewhere else on a dark country road, a man is following a smell he can't quite place toward a woman he really shouldn't be following.
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And somewhere near a quiet river, something is singing and deciding right now whether you deserve to make it home or not.
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Welcome to Decoffinated.
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I'm your host Misha Harper, and every week I get into ghost stories, unsolved mysteries, paranormal encounters, folklore, basically whatever's got people looking over their shoulder before bed.
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This whole episode happened because of a phone call I had with my mom.
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She is of Trinidadian descent, born and raised, and I have heard countless stories from her and even more phrases than I can count my whole life, but I hadn't really stopped to take in the origins of where it comes from outside of it coming from my mother's mouth.
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So here we are, about to dive into three Trinidadian folklore stories.
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So let's set the scene for this one, shall we?
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It's 2 a.m.
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and some man who has spent the night at a party or a bar who's had a few too many drinks decides he's fine enough to walk home alone.
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Now, the path that he has to take is down a long winding country road where there are no streetlights.
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The only light available is the pale glow of the moon slicing through the trees.
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In fact, she only appears when it's just the moonlight that lights the streets.
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So as he's walking, up ahead in the shadows, he notices a figure.
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He gets closer and he sees a breathtakingly beautiful woman standing by the side of the road.
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His heart skips a beat.
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She's dressed in an elegant old school white dress with voluminous layers that rustle softly when she moves.
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On her head, she wears a wide-brimmed straw hat tilted downward just enough to cast a deep shadow over the top of half of her face.
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And as he approaches her, the heavy, humid smell of the forest completely vanishes.
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Instead, the air is filled with the most intoxicating aroma you've ever experienced.
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It smells like the blend of incredibly expensive perfume and fresh night-blooming jasmine flowers.
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This is La Jables.
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Her name literally translates from French crayole to English as the She-Double.
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And let me tell you, she has earned that title.
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Now, La Jables is a predator but doesn't use brute force.
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She plays a psychological game and is incredibly specific about her target.
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She doesn't want just anyone.
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She specifically targets men who are drunk, men who are full of lust, or men who are unfaithful, deceitful, and cruel to their partners back home.
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Basically, if you're a man with a guilty conscience or a wandering eye, you are prime real estate.
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And honestly, sounds like she's about to do the Lord's work here.
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So she looks at him from under the brim of her hat, doesn't speak much, maybe she just lets out a soft, seductive laugh, or whispers a few words in a sweet voice.
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She turns around and begins to walk down the road, looking back over her shoulder to make sure he's following.
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And because he's completely hypnotized by her beauty and that sweet perfume, he follows her.
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He forgets all about his home, family, and his safety.
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He is completely under her spell.
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She leads him off the paved road and guides him down a dirt track, and then deeper still, right into the thick, treacherous bush.
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He is literally bushwhacking through vines in the dark, but he doesn't even care because he just wants to stay close to this mysterious woman in white.
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But if he weren't so blinded by lust, he would have noticed the warning signs.
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He would have noticed that something was deeply wrong with the way she was walking.
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As she glides down the path, she always positions herself very carefully.
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She will walk with her right foot on the clear path, but her left leg will always be intentionally hidden, dragging through the tall grass, the bushes, or the deep mud of the ditch.
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Because beneath the beautiful layers of that dress lies her horrific secret.
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Her right leg is a perfectly normal human foot, but her left leg is a hideous, hairy cow's hoof.
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And it is believed that the way she walks is to cover the sound of her animal foot so it is not to be heard by any man trying to pursue her.
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He keeps walking for miles until they are deep in the heart of the forest, completely isolated.
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Suddenly, she stops and she's standing perfectly still.
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He steps up behind her thinking he's about to get a romantic moment.
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He reaches out to touch her shoulder.
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And then the illusion completely shatters.
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She turns around and lifts her wide-brimmed hat.
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The beautiful, smooth skin he thought he saw melts away.
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He finds himself staring directly into a horrific, decaying, eyeless corpse face.
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Her eyes are black, empty sockets.
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Her skin is rotting off the bone.
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At that exact microsecond, the sweet smell of the jasmine perfume instantly curdles into this overwhelming, sickening stench of a rotting carcass and the stagnant swamp water.
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She opens her mouth and lets out a blood-curdling, mocking laugh that echoes through the trees.
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Before he can even process the horror, she completely vanishes into thin air.
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Now, he's left entirely alone.
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As the hypnotic spell breaks, reality hits him like a freight train.
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He is miles deep in a pitch black tropical rainforest.
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He has no idea where the road is.
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He's completely turned around, disoriented, and paralyzed with fear.
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Historically, men who were targeted by La Jables were rarely ever found alive.
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They would wander blindly through the dark forest in a state of absolute madness, getting bitten by venomous snakes or stepping right off the edge of a steep, hidden cliff or ravine, falling to their deaths in the rocky rivers below.
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If they were found by search parties days later, their faces were frozen in a permanent expression of pure terror.
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So why is she like this?
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Does she just wake up one day and choose violence?
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Well, if you look into her backstory, it's actually a tale of extreme heartbreak.
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Legend says she was originally a regular human woman who was deeply in love.
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But the man she loved broke her heart in the worst way possible.
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Consumed by pure grief and betrayal, she fled into the deep forest, wandered around in a state of madness, and ultimately died out there.
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Her anger was so intense that her spirit refused to cross over.
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Instead, she transformed into a demon.
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Which is crazy to me because I don't think I found a clear answer as to what the heartbreak is.
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But I could never, I don't think anyone I don't I don't know if there's a situation anyone could make me react that way.
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I digress.
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Other versions say she made a contract with the devil, trading her soul for eternal beauty, only to find out the contract turned her into a monster.
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Either way, she has an agenda.
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So how do you survive the She Devil?
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What do you do if you're walking down a dark road, you see the woman in white, and you suddenly notice that weird, uneven hitch in her walk.
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Apparently, there is a way to survive her.
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But why would I give you the chi code?
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Feel free to investigate and research that yourself.
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I am a woman and I don't need to know.
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And since she doesn't target innocent men, the rest of you just need to behave.
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Stay blessed out there.
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So La J Blas has her type.
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Take it even for a demon.
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Our next one doesn't have a type.
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She does not care who you are, where you live, or how good your track record is with women.
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Man, woman, child, if you're breathing, you are on the menu.
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By day, she is described as just a quiet old woman who rarely speaks to anyone, living all alone at the edge of a village in a small house.
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The neighbors whisper about her because she has an incredible deep knowledge of local herbs and traditional remedies, but she's generally grumpy and unapproachable.
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You pass her on the path during the day, you give a polite nod, because you are raised, right?
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And she just grunts and keeps walking.
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You think she's just a lonely grandmother type.
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By day, she plays the role of a frail old lady.
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However, at midnight, everything about her changes and she comes out to play.
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Now, before she can do anything, she needs to find fresh human liver.
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The legends say that during the pitch black nights of a new moon, when there's absolutely no light in the sky, she sneaks out of her hut and goes straight to the local village cemetery.
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She searches the graveyard until she finds a freshly buried corpse.
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Somebody whose body hasn't even begun to fully decompose yet.
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She digs up the grave, breaks open the coffin, and using a specialized spiritual charm, often described in old lore as a black penny or a cursed blade, she cuts open the deceased person's torso and harvests their liver.
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It seems as though you aren't safe from this woman, dead or alive.
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She takes that human liver back to her hut, throws it into a boiling pot, and cooks it down with local herbs and forbidden ingredients until it renders into a thick grease or oil.
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It's only when she takes this oil and rubs it all over her human flesh from head to toe that her skin begins to loosen and detach, allowing her to literally peel off her skin like she's stepping out of a wetsuit.
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She folds the skin up small enough to hide away in a dark corner, specifically placing it inside a heavy wooden mortar.
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I've heard that she hides it there to keep the skin intact and because nobody would honestly look for it there, which is fair because that's where my spices go.
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Now, underneath that skin, she transforms into her true form as a blazing ball of fire.
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Now, if you're a local walking home late at night, navigating a gravel road, and you happen to look up at the sky and see a strange, fast-moving streak of orange and blue fire cutting across the tops of the bamboo trees, you don't stop, you put your head down, and you run as fast as your legs can carry you.
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Because that is a sukunya, and she is hungry.
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Now, what makes her even more scary is that compared to traditional Western vampire stories, locking your doors and bolting your windows does absolutely nothing to protect you.
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She doesn't need an open door to get into your house.
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She can slip through any tiny crack under a frame, a gap in the window, a keyhole.
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It makes absolutely no difference how locked up you think your home is because she was never looking for an entrance in the first place.
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She was only ever looking for a small seam.
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Now, once she's inside, she floats into your bedroom and finds you asleep.
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I've heard she especially targets babies and small children.
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So I mean, at this point, you're in you're in your grave and you're dead.
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Now she's targeting babies and children.
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It just seems like anyone can get it.
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You're no one's safe.
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She hovers over you and she feeds off the arms and the legs, and she may leave a mark behind, this little blue and black bruise.
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When she's full and satisfied, she slips back where she came from, flies to her hut, pulls her wrinkled skin out of the wooden mortar, slips it back on, and goes right back to pretending to be your quiet neighbor.
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And this is why I feel like they say, know thy neighbor.
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At least that's for me after hearing the story.
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You wake up the next morning feeling completely drained of energy, pale and weak.
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And when you look down at your leg, you see a deep, painful black or blue bruise.
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In Trinidadian culture, elders don't just call these random bruises.
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They look at them and say, A sukunya gotcha last night.
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And according to some versions of the legend, if you die from the attack, you don't get peace.
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Your spirit is cursed and you transform into one yourself, doomed to repeat the same cycle for eternity.
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What's interesting is that she doesn't actually keep any of the blood she takes for herself.
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Which maybe you're like, then why go through all that work?
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Well, every single drop she collects, she carries straight to a massive ancient tree known as a silk cotton tree.
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And that tree has its own wild backstory because it's been long feared as a place where spirits live.
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And that's a history lesson for another day.
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So living inside the roots of this tree is a demon known as Bazal, and she trades him every drop of blood she's gathered in exchange for the dark power he gives her to keep doing all of this.
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The shape shifting, the black magic, all of it.
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So, how on earth do you survive and protect yourself from her?
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Which honestly, I feel like this is the most important part of this story.
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I feel like this is the most important part of all the stories we're talking about today.
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Now, there are a couple ways of doing this, and hallelujah.
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We have choices, am I right?
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The first way is rice.
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If you think she's in your neighborhood, you scatter it by your door, your windowsills, around the perimeter of your house, or a nearby crossroads.
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Legend says she's compelled to stop and count every single grain one at a time before she can do anything else.
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If she hasn't finished counting the grains before sunrise, she's caught outside, exposed to the light, and destroyed.
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Now, I know my mom has deeply embedded in me.
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Waste not, want not.
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And I feel like I would be wasting perfectly good rice.
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So if you don't want to waste your food, you could instead use a broom.
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You place it upside down at your doorway with the handle touching the floor.
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Supposedly, the exact same compulsion applies.
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She has to count the bristles just like rice.
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Another version says she simply just will not cross the broom.
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Now, if you want to eliminate the threat permanently, because I feel like I'd rather her gone forever and not just kept at bay, you have to wait until she leaves her hut to go hunting at night.
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While her fireball is out in the sky, you break into her house, search the dark corners until you find that heavy wooden mortar, and inside you should find her shed human skin.
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You go grab a big bag of coarse salt and a handful of local hot peppers, mash them up, rub the salt and the hot pepper all over the inside lining of her skin.
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Then you put it back exactly how you found it and slip away.
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When she comes home and tries to climb back inside her own skin, it burns her from the inside and she can't get it back on before daylight catches her, which means she explodes and dies.
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So that's the sukunya.
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She can literally come for anybody.
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Man, woman, child doesn't matter to her, and there's no dodging her by being a good person.
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Only by being a well-prepared one.
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Now, our final entity doesn't walk the lonely country roads, and she definitely isn't trying to squeeze through your front door's keyhole.
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She rules a completely different domain.
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The deep, freshwater rivers and hidden mountain pools of Trinidad.
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And so the tale goes something like this.
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There's this fisherman walking home along the same river he's fished his whole life.
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It's getting dark out and it's quiet.
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Quiet enough that it actually makes him a little uneasy.
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He's heard the stories about this river before, the same ones every fisherman out here grows up hearing.
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Aboys who follow a sound they shouldn't and never come back quite right.
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Or at all.
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But because nothing's ever actually happened to him, he doesn't really believe in the stories, which is usually how it goes.
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He almost doesn't catch it over his own footsteps, but they're singing, very faint, coming from somewhere up ahead, past the bend in the river.
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He should just keep walking, but the singing is so beautiful that before he even realizes, he's already walking toward it.
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He gets around the bend and there's a woman sitting on a flat rock at the edge of the water with her back turned to him.
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Her hair is dark, really long, and she's slowly combing through it with a gold comb.
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She hasn't turned around yet, so he tells himself she hasn't noticed him, which he already knows is not true.
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She turns around.
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She's stunning.
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Stunning enough that every warning he's ever heard suddenly feels like it was about someone else.
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But her eyes are off.
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They aren't reflecting light the way a human should.
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Instead, they're glowing with this eerie yellow predatory light.
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He looks down past her face, and that's when the real horror clicks.
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Where her legs should start, there's nothing human at all.
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Just this thick, coiled, scaly serpent body disappearing into the emerald water behind her.
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He freezes, paralyzed, with absolutely no idea what to do next.
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This is Mama Delo.
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And what happens to him in the next few seconds doesn't depend on how fast he can run.
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It depends on the life he's lived up until this exact moment.
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There's this heavy, suffocating silence where she's not even looking at his face anymore.
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She's looking right through him, judging his entire history with this river.
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She knows every single fish he's ever caught, whether he's taken more than he needed to to feed his family, whether he's ever dumped trash into the current, or if he's ever wrecked the Just because he could.
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In that silence, she is deciding if he has earned the right to walk away from her water alive.
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If he's been respectful and kept the river safe, she might actually let this go.
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Her tail will break the surface and slam down once, hard, like a whip cracking across the water.
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That crack is his only warning.
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He'll be running before the echo even fades and he'll never fish this stretch of river again.
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But if he's not that kind of guy, if he's a poacher or a polluter, what comes after that silence isn't a warning.
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It's an execution.
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Before he can even inhale to scream, those massive heavy anaconda coils wrap around his chest, crushing the air straight out of his lungs.
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She drags him backward into the water, suffocating him until his lungs finally give out.
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Or, even worse, she doesn't let him die.
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She drowns his human body, but she binds his soul to the riverbed.
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She turns him into this waterlogged, mindless servant forced to rot under the mud and guard her waters for eternity.
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Nobody on land ever sees his face again.
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There's one more thing worth knowing for anybody who thinks they'll see this coming in time.
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If she's not just annoyed, but actually furious, her hair does something first.
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It stops moving like hair and it starts twisting and coiling on its own until it looks less like hair and more like a bunch of small snakes.
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By the time anyone notices that it's happening, she's already past the point of warning them.
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And she turns into this 10-foot snake.
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That's the final straw.
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But you done lost the game there.
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There is no going back, there is no negotiating, there ain't anything.
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If you were ever standing where that fisherman was standing, there are two ways out, and it depends on your timing.
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If you see her before she's fully turned around, you take off your left shoe, flip it upside down, and walk backward the whole way home without looking back.
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Not even once.
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Nobody's ever explained why it has to be the left shoe or why walking backward matters.
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It's just what got passed down and it stuck around this long, so I don't know, must have worked.
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But if it's too late for that and she's already turned around and has seen you, everything changes.
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You can't run anymore.
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All you've got left is how you talk to her.
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Speak to me nicely, be respectful, agree with whatever she says, don't raise your voice, and don't make a move.
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You don't outrun something like that.
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You get through it by being exactly as careful as she needs you to be.
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So that's the three stories for this episode that I wanted to share.
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Let me know what versions you have all heard or if any of this matches what you grew up with, because I know these change depending on who's telling them and where you're from.
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And I know that I might have missed out on some information with some of the stories, like Mama Delo has a man, she has a husband, but I feel like that can be for another episode, and perhaps I'll cover three more stories.
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So if you got another folklore story from Trinidad or anywhere else, send it my way as I will be doing more of these.
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So lock your doors, as if that matters, watch the road, and mind yourself and what you're following at night.
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So if you hear singing, perhaps, perhaps tonight's not the night.
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I will catch you next week for whatever the show turns into next.
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Might even surprise me.
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This has been Decoffinated.
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I'm your host, Misha Harper, and we'll chat soon.
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Somewhere in Trinidad tonight, there is an old woman who's about to peel off her own skin like taking off a jacket.
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Somewhere else on a dark country road, a man is following a smell he can't quite place toward a woman he really shouldn't be following.
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And somewhere near a quiet river, something is singing and deciding right now whether you deserve to make it home or not.
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Welcome to Decoffinated.
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I'm your host Misha Harper, and every week I get into ghost stories, unsolved mysteries, paranormal encounters, folklore, basically whatever's got people looking over their shoulder before bed.
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This whole episode happened because of a phone call I had with my mom.
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She is of Trinidadian descent, born and raised, and I have heard countless stories from her and even more phrases than I can count my whole life, but I hadn't really stopped to take in the origins of where it comes from outside of it coming from my mother's mouth.
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So here we are, about to dive into three Trinidadian folklore stories.
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So let's set the scene for this one, shall we?
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It's 2 a.m.
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and some man who has spent the night at a party or a bar who's had a few too many drinks decides he's fine enough to walk home alone.
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Now, the path that he has to take is down a long winding country road where there are no streetlights.
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The only light available is the pale glow of the moon slicing through the trees.
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In fact, she only appears when it's just the moonlight that lights the streets.
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So as he's walking, up ahead in the shadows, he notices a figure.
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He gets closer and he sees a breathtakingly beautiful woman standing by the side of the road.
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His heart skips a beat.
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She's dressed in an elegant old school white dress with voluminous layers that rustle softly when she moves.
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On her head, she wears a wide-brimmed straw hat tilted downward just enough to cast a deep shadow over the top of half of her face.
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And as he approaches her, the heavy, humid smell of the forest completely vanishes.
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Instead, the air is filled with the most intoxicating aroma you've ever experienced.
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It smells like the blend of incredibly expensive perfume and fresh night-blooming jasmine flowers.
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This is La Jables.
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Her name literally translates from French crayole to English as the She-Double.
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And let me tell you, she has earned that title.
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Now, La Jables is a predator but doesn't use brute force.
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She plays a psychological game and is incredibly specific about her target.
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She doesn't want just anyone.
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She specifically targets men who are drunk, men who are full of lust, or men who are unfaithful, deceitful, and cruel to their partners back home.
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Basically, if you're a man with a guilty conscience or a wandering eye, you are prime real estate.
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And honestly, sounds like she's about to do the Lord's work here.
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So she looks at him from under the brim of her hat, doesn't speak much, maybe she just lets out a soft, seductive laugh, or whispers a few words in a sweet voice.
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She turns around and begins to walk down the road, looking back over her shoulder to make sure he's following.
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And because he's completely hypnotized by her beauty and that sweet perfume, he follows her.
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He forgets all about his home, family, and his safety.
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He is completely under her spell.
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She leads him off the paved road and guides him down a dirt track, and then deeper still, right into the thick, treacherous bush.
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He is literally bushwhacking through vines in the dark, but he doesn't even care because he just wants to stay close to this mysterious woman in white.
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But if he weren't so blinded by lust, he would have noticed the warning signs.
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He would have noticed that something was deeply wrong with the way she was walking.
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As she glides down the path, she always positions herself very carefully.
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She will walk with her right foot on the clear path, but her left leg will always be intentionally hidden, dragging through the tall grass, the bushes, or the deep mud of the ditch.
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Because beneath the beautiful layers of that dress lies her horrific secret.
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Her right leg is a perfectly normal human foot, but her left leg is a hideous, hairy cow's hoof.
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And it is believed that the way she walks is to cover the sound of her animal foot so it is not to be heard by any man trying to pursue her.
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He keeps walking for miles until they are deep in the heart of the forest, completely isolated.
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Suddenly, she stops and she's standing perfectly still.
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He steps up behind her thinking he's about to get a romantic moment.
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He reaches out to touch her shoulder.
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And then the illusion completely shatters.
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She turns around and lifts her wide-brimmed hat.
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The beautiful, smooth skin he thought he saw melts away.
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He finds himself staring directly into a horrific, decaying, eyeless corpse face.
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Her eyes are black, empty sockets.
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Her skin is rotting off the bone.
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At that exact microsecond, the sweet smell of the jasmine perfume instantly curdles into this overwhelming, sickening stench of a rotting carcass and the stagnant swamp water.
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She opens her mouth and lets out a blood-curdling, mocking laugh that echoes through the trees.
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Before he can even process the horror, she completely vanishes into thin air.
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Now, he's left entirely alone.
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As the hypnotic spell breaks, reality hits him like a freight train.
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He is miles deep in a pitch black tropical rainforest.
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He has no idea where the road is.
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He's completely turned around, disoriented, and paralyzed with fear.
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Historically, men who were targeted by La Jables were rarely ever found alive.
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They would wander blindly through the dark forest in a state of absolute madness, getting bitten by venomous snakes or stepping right off the edge of a steep, hidden cliff or ravine, falling to their deaths in the rocky rivers below.
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If they were found by search parties days later, their faces were frozen in a permanent expression of pure terror.
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So why is she like this?
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Does she just wake up one day and choose violence?
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Well, if you look into her backstory, it's actually a tale of extreme heartbreak.
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Legend says she was originally a regular human woman who was deeply in love.
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But the man she loved broke her heart in the worst way possible.
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Consumed by pure grief and betrayal, she fled into the deep forest, wandered around in a state of madness, and ultimately died out there.
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Her anger was so intense that her spirit refused to cross over.
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Instead, she transformed into a demon.
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Which is crazy to me because I don't think I found a clear answer as to what the heartbreak is.
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But I could never, I don't think anyone I don't I don't know if there's a situation anyone could make me react that way.
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I digress.
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Other versions say she made a contract with the devil, trading her soul for eternal beauty, only to find out the contract turned her into a monster.
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Either way, she has an agenda.
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So how do you survive the She Devil?
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What do you do if you're walking down a dark road, you see the woman in white, and you suddenly notice that weird, uneven hitch in her walk.
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Apparently, there is a way to survive her.
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But why would I give you the chi code?
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Feel free to investigate and research that yourself.
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I am a woman and I don't need to know.
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And since she doesn't target innocent men, the rest of you just need to behave.
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Stay blessed out there.
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So La J Blas has her type.
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Take it even for a demon.
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Our next one doesn't have a type.
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She does not care who you are, where you live, or how good your track record is with women.
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Man, woman, child, if you're breathing, you are on the menu.
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By day, she is described as just a quiet old woman who rarely speaks to anyone, living all alone at the edge of a village in a small house.
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The neighbors whisper about her because she has an incredible deep knowledge of local herbs and traditional remedies, but she's generally grumpy and unapproachable.
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You pass her on the path during the day, you give a polite nod, because you are raised, right?
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And she just grunts and keeps walking.
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You think she's just a lonely grandmother type.
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By day, she plays the role of a frail old lady.
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However, at midnight, everything about her changes and she comes out to play.
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Now, before she can do anything, she needs to find fresh human liver.
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The legends say that during the pitch black nights of a new moon, when there's absolutely no light in the sky, she sneaks out of her hut and goes straight to the local village cemetery.
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She searches the graveyard until she finds a freshly buried corpse.
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Somebody whose body hasn't even begun to fully decompose yet.
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She digs up the grave, breaks open the coffin, and using a specialized spiritual charm, often described in old lore as a black penny or a cursed blade, she cuts open the deceased person's torso and harvests their liver.
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It seems as though you aren't safe from this woman, dead or alive.
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She takes that human liver back to her hut, throws it into a boiling pot, and cooks it down with local herbs and forbidden ingredients until it renders into a thick grease or oil.
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It's only when she takes this oil and rubs it all over her human flesh from head to toe that her skin begins to loosen and detach, allowing her to literally peel off her skin like she's stepping out of a wetsuit.
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She folds the skin up small enough to hide away in a dark corner, specifically placing it inside a heavy wooden mortar.
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I've heard that she hides it there to keep the skin intact and because nobody would honestly look for it there, which is fair because that's where my spices go.
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Now, underneath that skin, she transforms into her true form as a blazing ball of fire.
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Now, if you're a local walking home late at night, navigating a gravel road, and you happen to look up at the sky and see a strange, fast-moving streak of orange and blue fire cutting across the tops of the bamboo trees, you don't stop, you put your head down, and you run as fast as your legs can carry you.
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Because that is a sukunya, and she is hungry.
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Now, what makes her even more scary is that compared to traditional Western vampire stories, locking your doors and bolting your windows does absolutely nothing to protect you.
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She doesn't need an open door to get into your house.
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She can slip through any tiny crack under a frame, a gap in the window, a keyhole.
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It makes absolutely no difference how locked up you think your home is because she was never looking for an entrance in the first place.
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She was only ever looking for a small seam.
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Now, once she's inside, she floats into your bedroom and finds you asleep.
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I've heard she especially targets babies and small children.
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So I mean, at this point, you're in you're in your grave and you're dead.
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Now she's targeting babies and children.
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It just seems like anyone can get it.
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You're no one's safe.
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She hovers over you and she feeds off the arms and the legs, and she may leave a mark behind, this little blue and black bruise.
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When she's full and satisfied, she slips back where she came from, flies to her hut, pulls her wrinkled skin out of the wooden mortar, slips it back on, and goes right back to pretending to be your quiet neighbor.
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And this is why I feel like they say, know thy neighbor.
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At least that's for me after hearing the story.
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You wake up the next morning feeling completely drained of energy, pale and weak.
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And when you look down at your leg, you see a deep, painful black or blue bruise.
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In Trinidadian culture, elders don't just call these random bruises.
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They look at them and say, A sukunya gotcha last night.
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And according to some versions of the legend, if you die from the attack, you don't get peace.
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Your spirit is cursed and you transform into one yourself, doomed to repeat the same cycle for eternity.
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What's interesting is that she doesn't actually keep any of the blood she takes for herself.
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Which maybe you're like, then why go through all that work?
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Well, every single drop she collects, she carries straight to a massive ancient tree known as a silk cotton tree.
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And that tree has its own wild backstory because it's been long feared as a place where spirits live.
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And that's a history lesson for another day.
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So living inside the roots of this tree is a demon known as Bazal, and she trades him every drop of blood she's gathered in exchange for the dark power he gives her to keep doing all of this.
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The shape shifting, the black magic, all of it.
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So, how on earth do you survive and protect yourself from her?
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Which honestly, I feel like this is the most important part of this story.
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I feel like this is the most important part of all the stories we're talking about today.
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Now, there are a couple ways of doing this, and hallelujah.
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We have choices, am I right?
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The first way is rice.
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If you think she's in your neighborhood, you scatter it by your door, your windowsills, around the perimeter of your house, or a nearby crossroads.
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Legend says she's compelled to stop and count every single grain one at a time before she can do anything else.
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If she hasn't finished counting the grains before sunrise, she's caught outside, exposed to the light, and destroyed.
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Now, I know my mom has deeply embedded in me.
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Waste not, want not.
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And I feel like I would be wasting perfectly good rice.
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So if you don't want to waste your food, you could instead use a broom.
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You place it upside down at your doorway with the handle touching the floor.
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Supposedly, the exact same compulsion applies.
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She has to count the bristles just like rice.
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Another version says she simply just will not cross the broom.
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Now, if you want to eliminate the threat permanently, because I feel like I'd rather her gone forever and not just kept at bay, you have to wait until she leaves her hut to go hunting at night.
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While her fireball is out in the sky, you break into her house, search the dark corners until you find that heavy wooden mortar, and inside you should find her shed human skin.
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You go grab a big bag of coarse salt and a handful of local hot peppers, mash them up, rub the salt and the hot pepper all over the inside lining of her skin.
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Then you put it back exactly how you found it and slip away.
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When she comes home and tries to climb back inside her own skin, it burns her from the inside and she can't get it back on before daylight catches her, which means she explodes and dies.
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So that's the sukunya.
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She can literally come for anybody.
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Man, woman, child doesn't matter to her, and there's no dodging her by being a good person.
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Only by being a well-prepared one.
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Now, our final entity doesn't walk the lonely country roads, and she definitely isn't trying to squeeze through your front door's keyhole.
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She rules a completely different domain.
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The deep, freshwater rivers and hidden mountain pools of Trinidad.
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And so the tale goes something like this.
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There's this fisherman walking home along the same river he's fished his whole life.
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It's getting dark out and it's quiet.
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Quiet enough that it actually makes him a little uneasy.
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He's heard the stories about this river before, the same ones every fisherman out here grows up hearing.
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Aboys who follow a sound they shouldn't and never come back quite right.
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Or at all.
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But because nothing's ever actually happened to him, he doesn't really believe in the stories, which is usually how it goes.
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He almost doesn't catch it over his own footsteps, but they're singing, very faint, coming from somewhere up ahead, past the bend in the river.
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He should just keep walking, but the singing is so beautiful that before he even realizes, he's already walking toward it.
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He gets around the bend and there's a woman sitting on a flat rock at the edge of the water with her back turned to him.
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Her hair is dark, really long, and she's slowly combing through it with a gold comb.
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She hasn't turned around yet, so he tells himself she hasn't noticed him, which he already knows is not true.
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She turns around.
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She's stunning.
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Stunning enough that every warning he's ever heard suddenly feels like it was about someone else.
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But her eyes are off.
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They aren't reflecting light the way a human should.
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Instead, they're glowing with this eerie yellow predatory light.
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He looks down past her face, and that's when the real horror clicks.
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Where her legs should start, there's nothing human at all.
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Just this thick, coiled, scaly serpent body disappearing into the emerald water behind her.
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He freezes, paralyzed, with absolutely no idea what to do next.
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This is Mama Delo.
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And what happens to him in the next few seconds doesn't depend on how fast he can run.
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It depends on the life he's lived up until this exact moment.
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There's this heavy, suffocating silence where she's not even looking at his face anymore.
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She's looking right through him, judging his entire history with this river.
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She knows every single fish he's ever caught, whether he's taken more than he needed to to feed his family, whether he's ever dumped trash into the current, or if he's ever wrecked the Just because he could.
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In that silence, she is deciding if he has earned the right to walk away from her water alive.
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If he's been respectful and kept the river safe, she might actually let this go.
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Her tail will break the surface and slam down once, hard, like a whip cracking across the water.
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That crack is his only warning.
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He'll be running before the echo even fades and he'll never fish this stretch of river again.
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But if he's not that kind of guy, if he's a poacher or a polluter, what comes after that silence isn't a warning.
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It's an execution.
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Before he can even inhale to scream, those massive heavy anaconda coils wrap around his chest, crushing the air straight out of his lungs.
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She drags him backward into the water, suffocating him until his lungs finally give out.
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Or, even worse, she doesn't let him die.
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She drowns his human body, but she binds his soul to the riverbed.
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She turns him into this waterlogged, mindless servant forced to rot under the mud and guard her waters for eternity.
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Nobody on land ever sees his face again.
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There's one more thing worth knowing for anybody who thinks they'll see this coming in time.
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If she's not just annoyed, but actually furious, her hair does something first.
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It stops moving like hair and it starts twisting and coiling on its own until it looks less like hair and more like a bunch of small snakes.
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By the time anyone notices that it's happening, she's already past the point of warning them.
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And she turns into this 10-foot snake.
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That's the final straw.
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But you done lost the game there.
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There is no going back, there is no negotiating, there ain't anything.
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If you were ever standing where that fisherman was standing, there are two ways out, and it depends on your timing.
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If you see her before she's fully turned around, you take off your left shoe, flip it upside down, and walk backward the whole way home without looking back.
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Not even once.
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Nobody's ever explained why it has to be the left shoe or why walking backward matters.
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It's just what got passed down and it stuck around this long, so I don't know, must have worked.
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But if it's too late for that and she's already turned around and has seen you, everything changes.
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You can't run anymore.
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All you've got left is how you talk to her.
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Speak to me nicely, be respectful, agree with whatever she says, don't raise your voice, and don't make a move.
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You don't outrun something like that.
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You get through it by being exactly as careful as she needs you to be.
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So that's the three stories for this episode that I wanted to share.
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Let me know what versions you have all heard or if any of this matches what you grew up with, because I know these change depending on who's telling them and where you're from.
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And I know that I might have missed out on some information with some of the stories, like Mama Delo has a man, she has a husband, but I feel like that can be for another episode, and perhaps I'll cover three more stories.
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So if you got another folklore story from Trinidad or anywhere else, send it my way as I will be doing more of these.
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So lock your doors, as if that matters, watch the road, and mind yourself and what you're following at night.
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So if you hear singing, perhaps, perhaps tonight's not the night.
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I will catch you next week for whatever the show turns into next.
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Might even surprise me.
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This has been Decoffinated.
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I'm your host, Misha Harper, and we'll chat soon.