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Most leaders say they're building a community. Most of them are building an audience.
In this episode of Connected Conversations, recorded in Denver, Elena Petrova sits down with Sam Swindler of Sword and Spark, and James Pelz of Stack to draw the line that almost everyone blurs. An audience is people you talk at. A network is people you trade with. A community is people who show up for each other, on the good days and the hard ones, and who get to change where the whole thing is going.
Sam and James make the case that belonging can't be manufactured. It has to be built, through curiosity, shared purpose, participation, and trust, and then maintained, because community carries a cost most organizations never budget for. And as AI gets better at making us feel connected, they ask what happens when the feeling is all we're left with.
In this episode:
- Why belonging shows up on the ordinary and hard days, not the highlight reel
- Audience, network, community: the difference, and where leaders get it wrong
- The four conditions of belonging, and why curiosity is the one that unlocks the rest
- What James learned from 45 minutes across a political divide at a buffet table
- Why people buy on feeling first, and call it the smart choice later
- Community's maintenance cost, and why you can't set it and forget it
- How AI can scratch the itch for connection while leaving us connected to nothing
Plus both guests answer the question we ask everyone: what conversation do more people need to be having right now?
Tell us in the comments: are you building a community, or an audience?
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Hosted by Elena Petrova. Connected Conversations is produced by Ad Astra, Inc.
