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Should Aerospace Employees Retire at 55, 60 or 65—and what could those extra working years mean for you? On BA Podcast Guys, host Rob sits down with senior advisors Steve Young and Michael Allen, CFP, to discuss the choices behind that decision.
They cover early retirement, healthcare costs before Medicare, retirement savings, taxes, Social Security and pension considerations.
Beyond the numbers, they ask something worth thinking about: what do you actually want your days to look like when work becomes optional?
Whether you’re counting down or exploring your options, join this honest conversation about retirement planning for Lockheed Martin/Aerospace employees. What age are you aiming for? Tell us below and subscribe for more conversations.
Timestamps:
00:00 Choosing your retirement age
00:26 Retiring at 55: goals, expenses and lifestyle
02:18 Healthcare costs, taxes and access to savings
03:30 Building a flexible retirement plan
04:46 Retiring at 60: what five more years can change
05:59 Second careers and starting a business
07:11 Retiring at 65: Medicare and consulting
08:00 Social Security and pension choices
08:48 Is there a perfect retirement age?
10:25 Closing thoughts and disclaimer
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Today, we're breaking down one of the most common questions we get,
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right? What is the most beneficial age to actually retire? And we're specifically
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talking to Lockheed Martin employees on this big decision.
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Welcome back to Best Advised Podcast, guys. I'm your host, Rob DeVallio.
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I'm here with senior advisors, Mike Allen and Steven Young. Gentlemen,
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welcome back. Yeah, I'm studio still still getting redone. So we're having
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This two weeks in a row. We're on the road.
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Real world is smacking me in the face. Yeah, that's foam renovations.
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Exactly. So we hear three common ages, right? Right. We hear what? 55, 60 and 65.
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Right. Can we touch on 55? What does that look like?
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Right. So yeah, 55, it's, it's when we get a lot, you know, Hey,
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I want to retire, you know, 55 or early, right? It could be, you know, 56, whatever.
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What does that mean? Right. So this is where having a clear plan in place,
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right? We want to clearly articulate, okay, I want to retire,
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you know, 55. I need X amount per month for my expenses.
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These are my goals. Right. So then we see, okay, this is where we are today,
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right? In order to make that happen, what do we have to do? Like,
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what are the variables that we have to move to make that happen,
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right? And we've seen it over the years.
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Clients will come in, be like, I want to retire at 55, you know, vacation home. And then,
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As you move through life, plans change. Yeah. I think I'm going to stick around
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a little bit longer because I'm enjoying what I'm doing, right?
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Maybe the vacation, we don't really want to be locked in, right?
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And I'm actually working with a guy who's retiring.
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That was his plan, right? And now he's 63, 64 and getting ready to retire.
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So shoot, my plan was to retire at 20,
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Man. Yeah, it's crazy. That's nuts.
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That didn't happen.
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And if we do retire for 55 or early, let's say, what are we going to do?
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You know? Right. So that sense of purpose and structure that you had from getting
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up every day, going to work, accomplishing tasks, we need to be,
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we need to fill that with something. Right. So what are we going to do? Cause we can't just.
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Sit there and die.
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Like, yeah, I love people too. I mean, at 55, you may still have kids, kids in school.
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You know, you got to make sure you're able to afford putting them through school
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or just putting food on the table for them and everything. So there's a lot
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to think about when you're thinking about 55 healthcare. How are you going to
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pay for that healthcare?
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Go 55 to 65, a Medicare kick zone.
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Right. It's something that a lot of clients don't even think about,
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right? They think about, this is what I want per month.
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Okay. What about healthcare? Oh, yeah. I guess we should put that down.
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Well, I guess. Yeah. Also, they retired before 55, where all their money's in
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their salaried savings plan.
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Right.
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For one, it's going to be taxable, but are you going to be able to get that
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money out without penalties?
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People think about diversification, you know, all right, I'm going to have,
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you know, US stocks and small companies. I'm going to have international.
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I'm going to have bonds, fixed income.
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Well, they don't think about diversifying tax strategy, right?
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So we need to have some pre-tax, off would be good, and also after tax,
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right? Money that we can access prior to 59 and a half to bridge that gap.
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Because that's hard to kind of account for in your head, right?
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Especially if it's just a regular IRA, right? You're not accounting for the 40, 50% taxes.
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Right, exactly. So it's something we have to be mindful of when we're doing
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our plans. We're looking at...
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We're, you know, playing it live. I love playing it live. Yeah,
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yeah. It's like, for the 55-year-olds of your clients, How did that work out
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for them? Are they comfortable?
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Some maybe. What we do is we focus on, first, let's get to retirement.
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What's your retirement goal? Because I always see my financial plans in my head,
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a picture of we compartmentalize travel, even the mortgage, retirement,
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weddings, and all that fun stuff, college.
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And we say, okay, well, first off, let's focus on getting you the long,
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the long goal, retirement, getting to that. Like then we plug in maybe a wedding
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or we plug in about travel,
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Travel, start a business.
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You know, so it's,
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Do you have the financial freedom to retire at 55? And we've taken many clients
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there, but a lot of times when they get there, like, you know what?
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I kind of enjoy what I'm doing. So I'm going to keep going, you know?
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Yeah.
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So it doesn't always work out. That's why we adjust plans as we go along. Right. We got to
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Move and pivot as life. Yeah. As you move through.
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But we'd love to be able to tell somebody they can retire at 55.
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But then you're like, okay, you're retired. But now what?
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What are you going to do? Because a lot of our social interaction comes from work.
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You know, I got to hang out with you guys and everything. Yeah,
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pretty good. I'd miss you guys.
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Okay. So let's continue playing a lot. Where are we with 60?
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Yeah. Does that look like?
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Yeah. So 60, you've had, you know, a few more years to put money away in the salaried savings plan.
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That health care gap that we talked about, funding, health insurance prior to
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Medicare age, right, becomes a little bit shorter. So it's a little bit less
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demanding financially on retirement, but we've still got the life planning.
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It's amazing, though, those five years make such a huge difference.
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So like when you're asking about clients that want to retire up to 55,
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we had to shoot them down. And so, you know, we need to calm down a little bit here.
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and then during when we're playing it live with our clients because i love our
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financial planning software we can we collaborate with our clients we work with them so we
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we have a what if 55 and it's like well you're going to run out of money it's
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like 60 probability hitting your quota then we say okay what about five years
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more yeah does amazing things to plans and
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It's just kind of right that's probably the most you're making in your life at that point
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Right you're really enroll in 55 to 60.
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Those five years are kind of like 20 years from 20 to 40 almost.
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Right. A lot of times kids are out of college, right? So now we can really turbocharge our savings.
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You're not spending on that, on the daily kids.
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Yeah, we've had class, you know, okay, we start with early retirement now,
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we're ready to keep working.
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And then we get to 60 and it's like, okay, you know, we're going to retire from
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this job, but we're going to go start a business.
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It's more about financial freedom.
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Financial freedom.
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For a lot of people.
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Yeah. It's where that second and third career comes in. Like we have great,
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lucky clients and retired right started a business it's doing very very well
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and we were able to help them you know through that journey a long way and it's
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neat to see it from an idea to to fruition.
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Yeah i bet that's a that happens a lot with lucky martin employees and specifically
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like kind of have a fun job also not that their job isn't fun that's pretty
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dang intense yeah almost like let's make a hobby job we've had
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Clients another lucky couple got a lot of lucky couples it's Amazing that they
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had decided they were going to open up a store when they retired
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Then. Yeah, that's fun.
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A part of their life is also their mission is to help people.
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And so Salvation Army is huge for those guys, but then also they have a store,
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retail store, where they wanted to run that too. So we helped them build that,
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the structure around it. We found attorneys for them.
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We ran numbers with them, and it's worked out really well. And now we're going
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to help them get to the next stage.
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Next stage. Right.
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So then what would that next stage look like? Is that 65? Yeah.
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Is that the order, I guess?
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Right. I think I know that the clock stage is that everyone thinks about.
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It's funny. You're eligible for Medicare. So that healthcare backup is great.
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It's pretty much non-existent. You've still got to pay for healthcare,
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but the health insurance piece of it is largely taken care of.
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And this is where we see a lot of clients do consulting, right?
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Because they've got decades of experience, right? We're going to retire from
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the current job, but not necessarily completely. Completely flight,
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golf every day, go to the beach and start happy hour, four-flop.
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Because that's not good for any of us. Right.
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So we want to still be active, engaged, using the knowledge that we've gained
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over decades of experience, but on their own time with greater flexibility.
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Yeah. And what are you going to do that next after 65 too is important to you.
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But this is where social security comes into play. 65, 66, 67.
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When do we take it, right? That's great.
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Actually, we have a lot of clients that, when should I take it?
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Yeah. Or with the pension, the clients that do still have that pension, what do I do?
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Do I give 100%? Just if I take the most amount now and then there's nothing left for my spouse.
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So if you have other assets, maybe you do that. But again, that's where we look
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at all the different areas of your assets and your income buckets,
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how they all work together and how they're going to do that.
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your insurances, can you take a little bit more risk in one asset class or one
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income stream while utilizing the others?
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Okay. So we went over 50, 55 and 65, right? And again, with your clients, I play live.
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What is your suggestion here? Like, what do you tell your, your Lockie employees on the perfect date?
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I don't know if there is a perfect, run a financial plan.
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Yeah.
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Run a financial plan. We customize it for each of our clients and we collaborate
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with them on it. We work through it. We say, what are the different?
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When we're doing the plan, we look at the fun stuff first, quality of life,
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what you want to do, your goals and all that.
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Then we kind of get a little bit more, okay, what do you got?
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Okay. Yeah.
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Then, okay, are we going to be able to make it? Yeah. So putting all that together
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with your goals as far as the stuff you're going to do in your life,
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things you want to do in your life, because it's really tough when somebody's
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like, you know, I don't want I don't really do a lot of volunteer work.
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I don't really maybe have a bunch of family to hang out with because some people
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maybe, like I have clients that have moved all the way from California where
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they moved to Florida and they don't have a lot of family here.
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So are they going to move back to California when they retire?
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What's that? Yeah.
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And what's that? Tell them a different story. So we, again, customizing it and
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putting their plan together and saying, okay, where are these different income
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streams going to come from to fund your life?
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Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits-all, right? There is no perfect age retirement.
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You know, it's something that we look at, we pull a plan together and say,
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and it changes over time, right? So what might've been early retirement,
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now is looking like later retirement, second, third career, right?
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So we got to move and pivot as we move through life.
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We have a financial coach that helps them move along.
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Thank you guys. If you want to talk to Steve or Mike, I'm going to leave a link
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in the description for you. And remember folks, the secret to wealth is not
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what you earn, it's what you keep. Happy days, everybody.
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This podcast is for entertainment and educational purposes only and is not intended
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as personal financial advice. Before making any financial decision,
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