Challenging Conversations: Controversy, Catholicism, and Christian Empathy - w/ Joe Gallagher

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You, you, you, you, you, you.
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What is going on?
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Pretty sure that was.
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She is so calm.
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Okay, so why was she not trying to get out of the car?
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I don't know, she's still buckled in.
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Even.
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That's what?
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even she didn't even take her seatbelts like like she thought the car was gonna become a boat.
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I don't get it like.
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Hey, everything else in our society can be things that it's not.
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So I can't the car be a boat, right, that's true.
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But I'm never not amazed by women drivers.
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They never cease to amaze me.
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Okay, so hold on speaking speaking.
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For everybody.
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Hang on, let's see if I can make this bigger so now, rob, tell the backstory to this so this is a conversation between me and my wife, hope and Her.
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Her part is up in her white.
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We have cameras over our house for you know, baby monitors and stuff like that.
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And she said it's good thing We don't have a camera in the garage or you and aunt would have fodder for your women can't drive segment No damage to the car.
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And as soon as I saw that I'm like oh no.
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No damage to the car but I kind of backed into the poll.
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We have a poll like a support pole in the middle of our garage between the two stalls and somehow she backed into it.
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Okay, so listen to me.
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This is hilarious because my wife Polls in the driveway and she's on the phone with somebody and she hops out of the car and leaves the car in drive and the car Slowly goes into the garage.
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She goes in the house that she comes out of the house and the car is inside the Like.
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I don't understand.
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How do you not put the car in park?
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Joe, joe, you married.
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No, I get.
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I get married in October.
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Oh, you have to look forward to I got you.
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So listen, i gotta explain everybody.
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Um, first off, joe Gallagher, formally of the redtop report on church Milton, right, yes, sir, baby.
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So I met Joe when I went to the cancel priest conference.
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Joe helps father laval over there and Joe is like The, the showrunner, like he's like.
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I didn't really get to spend much time with you at the conference because you were literally bouncing back and forth like a lunatic.
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But the one thing I did address was I said that I wanted to get you out of newsroom mode And I'm like the best way to get Joe out of newsroom mode because you've been doing newsroom stuff for years.
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Right, i mean, you got it's like everything was.
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I'm like we got to bring Joe on an off the rails episode and just I think it would have been anything.
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I almost did that once it drove through 711.
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I Love the ladies, the ladies are adorable, so yeah, so I wanted to get Joe on just to just to show him like how Unorganized and unprofessional we are.
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I'm thankful for it.
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Honestly, i still have the you know set up.
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Don't put your hands too much on the desk, but if you do, i don't know there.
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So it's a.
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It's nice to be able to kind of Break that mold every now and then throw on a t-shirt and just come and hang with your friends right.
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I was thinking, because usually when father level asks me to co-host on open the desert or on any other program I've done in the past before redtop report, it was very much the or after.
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Even at right, right after I started my contracting work, because I was with Catholics, cat for Catholics for a Little bit.
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There.
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It was, you know, button shirt, button shirt, and so I was getting ready to put it on and I thought I'm gonna keep the t-shirt up.
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Good job, good job, i'm so happy man, honestly, i so.
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I I've never been like I mean, you saw me at the conference.
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I didn't even want to wear a suit at the conference, like I don't, i don't know, i don't, i don't do well with, like I could do it at a wedding or something.
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But like when I saw, i really meant it.
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When I saw Doug Barry went up and he was just in like jeans and a t-shirt, i was like, oh, this is awesome, i have to wear my suit.
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Anthony lives by the mantra Better to ask forgiveness than permission.
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Yeah, i Totally agree.
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Well, that's kind of my take in podcasting in general, the the whole news thing is kind of going the way that don't over, and so to have somebody who's personable and has a personality Personable, it requires you to dress just like everybody else dresses.
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This whole facade of I'm a newscaster and therefore I'm separated from the masses is just Old news and it's just really stupid.
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It really is funny, man, like you see, like people are drifting away from, like the, the very professional Outfits like that, like that, like the days of Walter Cronkite are long gone and you can even see, and you can even see.
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I mean, we're not going to talk about church militant, but you can see even church militant.
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Like you can see.
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Michael voris is doing his own show now, kind of dressing down a little bit.
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It's not as professional.
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You see, christine isle's doing the same thing like they.
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They are seeing it too, like it's.
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You know, the professional newsroom thing is one thing, but then I mean, honestly, i think most people enjoy our show because they say kind of feels like they're just hanging with their friends Like I think what it is is like I don't want to hear what some You know dressed up talking head on the TV tells me.
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I should think I want to hear what a guy like me is thinking himself.
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I agree, that's it.
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I I don't think they'll care that I said that, i say this, but before I left CM, that was, that was a big thing that I pushed was Get away from all of the news.
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I mean, it's got its place, of course, but let's have some single cam, maybe two cam shots of podcast style.
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That's the future, that's what it is, you know it's.
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We can't be Dan rather, anymore, and I'm not saying that they, that they are, they were.
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But you know, news is not the same medium as it was and people would much rather hear Three or four stories with some commentary rather than Just just in breaking news.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, that's like that's generally what we do.
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So, like our show, um, we'll pick.
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I usually pick like three stories that we're going to go over and then we just in, you know, we fill in with fodder in between those three stories.
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Like I'm going to tell you guys what happened to me today.
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So, uh, last week I was driving my boat to the dock and I left the cover, the bimini top, on the boat while I drove it.
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Before I left, i said to my daughter I gotta remember to take that top down.
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I forgot to take it down.
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That top is meant to withstand like 35, 40 mile an hour winds When you're driving in your car doing 65 on the highway.
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The whole top ripped right off.
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So today we went out and I had no top on the boat, no cover whatsoever.
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So when I tell you, i was in the sun all day what happened to boat modesty?
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Come on dude, my face is so red You have no idea.
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Like boat modesty, you're shot.
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So I literally was in the sun for nine hours straight today Just getting fried like a lot like a I look like a lobster.
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It's really bad, so don't mind my sunburn everybody.
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I was gonna say we can tell what kind of sunglasses you were wearing.
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I don't wear hats either, like I hate wearing hats too.
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So, um then, uh, i had something else all over the top.
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Well, that's probably why you have so much hair in your old age, Anthony.
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Is that you think so?
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It's my old age.
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Thank you, rob.
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I'm here with these young kids.
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These young kids, they don't know you guys will be lucky to have as much hair as I I do at my age.
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Um, all right, rob, let's see what other videos I say.
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I say you this Um, i say you another video, it's uh.
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I see one of the tesla.
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No, no, no, we'll do that one after.
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Actually, you know what?
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Let's do the tesla and keep in rhythm with our lady drivers.
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Let's, let's go with our lady drivers and we'll stick with that theme.
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And just see with this wonderful woman was doing at a gas station.
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Oh no, i know where this is going with a.
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I hesitated to show this one because this girl's dress very inappropriately, but it was too funny to pass up.
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Bro, there's an electric car.
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So the Australian women.
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Someone should tell her Dude the best part is somebody gets out to help her.
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Oh no.
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Was she about to pour the gasoline in the electric charger spot?
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I hope so.
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At least she.
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At least she realizes that's not right I mean I reckon that you should go ahead, i reckon that you should go out and try to help her.
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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go go.
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So this guy comes out and he doesn't tell her hey, it's an electric car, you can't charge it.
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He tells her It's a fan plate of you man?
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No, it's on the other side He says no, no, no, it's probably on the other side.
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This guy's so mean Because you know we get stressed the hose.
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Go ahead, bring it on the other side.
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It's awful, awful.
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Look, the car's electric.
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Look, it's an electric car You don't put gasoline in it, you put, you put, charge, you, charge it, it's electric.
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Does she try to gas up her cell phone?
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That's on the other side.
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She's got all of the ladies, ladies are awfully entertaining, but then I actually had the.
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The video above.
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That one, rob, is um, this one.
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We've showed something like this in the past, but I like I want to explain people how to handle something like this if you ever see it, because it's actually really dangerous.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, so like this is something that I I have personal experience with.
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I've seen somebody do it and they got It severely injured, and the way these guys handled it.
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You know what?
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No volume, though, rob, because they curse.
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Okay, so no volume on it, but let's just show the video real quick.
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So All right.
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So this guy's driving, he's got his top up.
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These guys go and they, they try to tell them and They tell them to slow down, right, but because they want the video, they slow down and they get behind them and they watch this happen.
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They should have got in front of him and slowly stopped there you go.
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I mean that could have killed multiple people, this guy, the whole truck tipped over.
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Okay, so now I know a guy personally.
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Well, look look at what they're wearing there.
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I mean, these guys are in construction, or you know, working vest.
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Yeah, they should have known what to do.
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So they should have pulled in front of him and stopped the car.
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Yeah and forced him to stop.
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I mean So, i know.
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I know a guy who pulled off a job site It was a dump truck, had the body up in the air And he hit an overpass and then his head hit the ceiling and it broke his neck and the guy was in a wheelchair the rest of his life.
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No, so I mean right so when you see something like that, you don't slow down to get a video of the damage that's going to happen.
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You get in front of the guy and you stop the car and save a person's life.
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I mean, who knows what happened there?
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Can I just also say Like that.
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That's the type of thing that I think when I see people recording videos of Well hate to say it, but when you see all these white women or guys being jumped by a group of people And and they just would rather record it, or even in other scenarios, and it's not, it's not a whole, a whole group of black people attacking the white person that you would see in New York, even though the media doesn't want to talk about it, but anytime you start seeing somebody just getting destroyed By an entire group of guys, it's like why are you holding the camera?
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What are?
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what are you doing?
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Why don't you go in there?
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and actually We live in such a voyeuristic society.
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Now It's like that guy in Vancouver.
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They got stabbed to death outside of Starbucks right.
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Yeah you had like two or three videos of of people just videotaping And not doing anything to even provide first aid.
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See, that's what I can understand being too afraid to jump in right, like I can understand that, but afterwards the guy, the, the assailant runs away And now the guy's bleeding out and nobody's providing first aid.
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Everybody just wants their camera.
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Like we live in a really, really strange time where people just want their Instagram clicks or whatever their Their twitter likes.
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So, yeah, we live in a tick tock society.
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It's easier to film for the gram, film for the tick tock, than to intervene.
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It's really, i believe, world star, that you remember that.
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Yes, old star That's.
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That is the that was the catalyst for this type of crap, or people would, so they rather film.
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So I was working one day and I saw a group of kids jumping a young kid- And I saw 35 people around videoing.
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Now I'm in Queens and I'm like I wanted to jump in, like I wanted to help the kid, and I'm like I don't, i don't, i really hesitated, man like I.
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So after it was over, i went and I helped the kid, but I didn't break it up like I.
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I really had to think about my wife and my kids and like, okay, i don't, i don't know me.
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In best case, you jump in and break it up and and hurt one of them.
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You jump in and break it up and hurt one of them and you'll be on the news as The guy who choked out the crazy dude on the subway.
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I remember one.
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I was like I think I do have been 11 and I was just riding my bike all over the town that I grew up in and I was riding by and I saw these two older guys way I mean they had to have been in their 40s, uh, and they were they were really starting to shove each other and one guy got on top of the other one and was just laying into him and That was, uh, really a big watershed moment for me.
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I mean, i called the police, i don't know what a nine-year-old or however old I was, riding his bike, what I could have done.
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But I think back that moment and I, that was the moment for me that I swore if I ever saw something happen like that again, i'm diving in.
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God, god willing, you just got to dive in because it's just not necessary.
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The thing is I like working in the city Like you.
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We saw what happened with with the guy on the subway right, like he intervened and he stopped the guy and now he's on trial for manslaughter.
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And not just that.
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I mean you see 20 kids jumping, one kid, especially high school kids.
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Man Like you don't know.
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You don't know what you're getting yourself into in the city anymore.
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It's wild like we got Alvin Braggs or whatever his name is the psycho da for Manhattan, right, that's Alvin Braggs, yeah.
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Yeah, that's it's.
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They've made it so that they want the criminal to be the victim.
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It's a weird thing, right Like this guy was on a rampage threatening people and the guy who actually steps in to help people He was a victim himself of this lunatic and he steps in to stop the guy and we've made him out to be the bad guy.
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It's a really strange farm We were school shooting with the, the, the tranny that shoots up, you know, kills kids.
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What's the white house press secretary say?
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Oh, the trans are our friends.
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They need to be protected Yeah it's so weird.
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Welcome to our second strike everyone, Ah do you think that'll get a strike?
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I should award me.
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We say trunes, have we described?
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have we described Amish to Joe?
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yet Uh, if it comes up, we will.
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We got John Henry Weston to say Amish on our show.
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Oh, that was the best.
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It was so funny.
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So, joe, we, when we're describing the people of the old covenant, we call them Amish, because they don't have technology and you know they're never gonna complain about something we do.
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And We told that to John Henry Weston and he actually started using it in the show.
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It was pretty funny, um so all right.
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So, uh, sunday I went to my brother in law's fourth of july party.
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I said you a little clip of the fireworks, let's play those real quick, and then I got some funny stories about that party, so you can find that All right.
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So So this was the most insane private firework show I've ever seen.
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He spent about 20,000 on these fireworks.
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He had somebody wire them up, he lit one fuse and it was 12 minutes of the sky just being.
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It looked like a grouchy firework show.
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It was unbelievable.
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So while we're there, though, my sister-in-law who's nominally Lutheran starts asking me questions, again like talking to me about a patient So she's a sonogram technician and one of her patients starts talking to her and telling her she needs to watch Countdown to the Kingdom We just interviewed Daniel O'Connor from Countdown to the Kingdom and telling my sister-in-law she needs to watch.
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You don't understand.
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So my wife is a little tuned up and she's just like Cassandra, you're going to be Catholic, i know it.
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I was dying rolling.
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This is really strange, because my brother-in-law, the last time I've seen him, i've mentioned it that he keeps asking me questions and stuff.
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So I gave him our channel name, and he looks up our channel and the first thing he sees is Michael Lofton criticizing our channel.
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It's like he looks up avoiding Babylon and he comes across Michael Lofton, and then he comes and goes to our channel, watches our rebuttal And he's like, yeah, what is going on on your channel?
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I was like, ah, i was just stupid there.
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We wound up taking that video down, by the way.
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But he's curious enough that he's actually starting to watch some of the things on our channel.
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He had his neighbor come over and handed him a Catholic book and he started reading it.
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So I was talking to him and I said something to him about Judas and he was just like, wait, who's Judas?
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I'm like, wait a minute, you don't even know the Christians story at all.
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He doesn't even get the basics.
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He doesn't even know the basics of the Christian story.
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So he's like, and I don't even like I have no idea.
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I'm like, all right, forget the book that guy gave you.
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I'm like really Go spend 45 minutes reading the Gospel of Mark.
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That's what I said to him.
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I'm like, dude, you could literally pick up one of the Gospels and you could get through it in an hour.
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Like it'll take you an hour to read through one of the Gospels.
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He's like, oh, i wouldn't even know where to begin, so we're going Verse one.
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Yeah, so we're going to go away together And when we go away together, i'm really going to just try to at least give him the basics of the Christian story.
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You know, because he's had like a.
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He's had like a lot of things happen over the past few months that have actually made him very curious.
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And he's been asking me questions like crazy, and it's like he's not somebody who's like like anti Catholic.
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He's not even like he's very curious about the whole, the whole story, but it just goes to show you like God.
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I think we're going to see a lot of interest from people who are nominally Christian or maybe not Christian at all, but since that's, there's something wrong in the world whether it's with, you know, the, the alphabet issue or or just other things And they see that it is really only Christians standing up against this stuff with any sort of principle, and I think that alone is going to be enough to capture interest where they then want to find out more.
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So yeah, that's what I even said that in my talk, right, i was like it's like the world is so upside down that, in a way, evangelization has never been easier.
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Like people could just sense something is going haywire.
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Joe, what was your upbringing?
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Were you, were you, are you a cradle Catholic?
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Yeah, yeah, i grew up a single mother.
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She was always pretty, as far as at least I can remember always went to Mass on Sundays.
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I went to Catholic school all the way through, which Catholic school doesn't really speak much, but we started going to a more reverent type, novus Ordo, in probably about 11 or 12.
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That's where I first encountered communion on the tongue, or a little bit of Latin throughout, or what a church looks like without a Novus Ordo altar.
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So that was.
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That was really once the tide started turning much more towards authentic Catholicism.
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So when did you start taking your faith seriously And like what made you jump into?
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like Catholic media.
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Yeah, catholic media where you're actually like taking your faith that seriously, oh geez.
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Well, i feel like I'm always not taking my faith seriously because I'm just such a crappy Catholic half the time.
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I mean, we all have that that take.
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But honestly, growing up, i owe a lot to church militant and Michael Voris.
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Of course I've nothing bad to say about them, but you know, i started going to the one true faith talks when I was 10, nine, and so we really started learning a lot more about the faith.
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I remember my mom and I we used to get pizza from a local chain I don't know if you guys have them out there, but Papa Romanos And but we would get our pizza, we'd sit down, we'd flip through TV And I remember on channel 13, it was season one, episode three of the one true faith And it was on hell And I was nine at the time And we'd both just sat and listened to it And it was really good And kind of.
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The rest is history.
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I started working there, you know, on the summers or on the weekends, and all the way through, for the most part the summers, excuse me.
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In college I took a few summers off doing other work, but I've always been around it.
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I think that it was one thing that really showed me.
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I always thought that and I do believe that the faith is very much like an intellectual thing You have to, you have to know in order to live a certain way, and but at the same time there's been a lot of great saints that weren't even allowed to become priests because they weren't very good at reading, they weren't very intelligent.
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Father Solanus Casey is now a blessed up here in Detroit.
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He was a doorman because they all thought he was just so dumb And but he's a blessed.
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So it's kind of interesting when you think about, sure, you have to know the faith really well, but at the same time, if you don't have an emotional and virtuous appreciation of the faith and the virtue of course comes from the knowledge, but it's a lot of the will It really it really means nothing at the same time.
00:25:23.815 --> 00:25:31.458
So for me, i would say that I really started taking the faith seriously was when I had my, my little girl.
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I was, i had two more semesters left in college and I found out that my ex-girlfriend was pregnant And it was like a light switch.
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You know this idea that a lifeguard can't help other people from drowning unless he himself can swim.
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Well, it's the same thing with your children.
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As a father, you can't help them get to heaven or your spouse get to heaven which are your jobs as a father or as a husband, or a mother or a wife, unless you yourself have the tools and are practicing to do so yourself.
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And that was huge for me.
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I'm holding this little girl.
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I'm thinking time to clean it up.
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You know not to get all found on the train wreck episode of all episodes.
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A lot, a lot of people have that experience.
00:26:20.894 --> 00:26:23.624
So, rob, you had something similar, right When you when your kids were born.
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Yeah, i mean, i had been more or less not practicing for a decade, still believed it all intellectually, but it was just easier to live, you know, live like the rest of the world.
00:26:34.467 --> 00:26:41.907
And yeah, when we got pregnant with with Maddie it was it was a wake up call, to say the least.
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Yeah.
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I remember.
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Oh, sorry No no, no, go ahead, you go.
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The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
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Yeah, It's all about.
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it's all about mothers.
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It's all about parents raising up that next generation.
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Yeah, i remember when my son was born.
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I remember holding him and being like, so, like, like it was the weirdest thing, like for my first born.
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It was like a new consciousness just came into being.
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It was just such a trip for me.
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But even that didn't set me off like completely, like it took.
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It still took a few more years, but so, like my wife, i had my, my first child out of wedlock also, and you know people, people could think what they want from it, but it's it, whatever.
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It is that leads you to start taking your faith seriously, it's what leads you to you know God.
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God uses whatever means he does for us.
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So then what?
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other videos we got Rob what do you say Nothing leads broken men towards God like children.
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Yeah, stupid villabal beach ball.
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Christian rock music is a close.
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That's what.
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I wanted You know that's what I actually wanted.
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I wanted to touch on something with, with the liturgy Man, what was it?
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So we don't have we don't have any other videos, fyi.
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Okay, that's fine.
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We have the with the two articles that we're going to touch on, though, so yeah all right, but no all right.
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So, joe, did you ever come across like, did you, did you ever attend at your dinner?
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Did you ever attend a traditional master in this time, or anything, or?
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Yeah, no for sure, I mean I definitely I served at the TLM when I was in high school.
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Every now and then it was either the TLM or I would do this the very reverent novus ordo, and then I would go every now and then at college as well.
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But even when I would go to the novus ordo I would go downtown Steubenville at St Peter's, just because the tuna can church on Franciscan's campus was just insufferable.
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It's just insufferable.
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Where'd you go to college?
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Did you go to?
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did you go to Franciscan?
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I went to Steubenville.
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Took me a while About the crack houses.
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What crack house?
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Wait a minute, all right, so all right.
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So wait, i want to, i want to dive into this little.
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So you, you went to Stubman, you went to Franciscan.
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Yeah, i did.
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What did you?
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what did you major in?
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I did clinical psychology, and this actually ties into, excuse me, what we were talking about earlier.
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You know, if I had it my way?
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oh, i love psychology.
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Actually, in fact, if I had done it differently, i would have done Oh my gosh.
00:29:32.694 --> 00:29:35.564
We might have a full time position for you here with this podcast.
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We can't pay anything.
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But we can definitely use psychology.
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I would have gone more into research.
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My thesis was on the influences of subjectively pleasing music on on the chemicals within the brain.
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I love that stuff.
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I could.
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Just I had a professor there, Dr Samoot.
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I would pick his brain after after class and he would give me this neuroscience books for their masters or from his master's classes, and just so he stays up on it and all of his research.
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And man, if I could just be given a million, maybe $2 million grants and left alone in a lab, that'd be way better.
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But you should talk to to Flanders.
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I was just going to say that his theory on music shamanistic music.
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I've heard the guy that wrote the book about how different melodies are actually immoral.
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No, no, no, but I'm sure he holds that thesis though, but he even talked about how Arius during the Aryan heresy.
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Arius knew people couldn't read back then, so he actually wrote songs like pop songs of the time, to distort people's understanding of Christianity.
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Like and let me tell you something, like you don't realize how much of an effect music has on the populace.
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Man like you really think about.
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You think about hip hop culture.
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Like hip hop culture has entranced people and made them throw God out the window and become gangster rap.
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You know, it's just.
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You look at what has happened to that.
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You knock the gangster rapper of the fallacies.
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The gangster rapper No.
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But like you really look at hip hop culture.
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It's really scary what that has done to the black community And it's like it's a scary thing and how much it has uprooted people's morals.
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And you think about some of the, some of the garbage they put in their lyrics and the women just talking about sleeping around And it's really horrific what it's done.
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You know, i back in high school.
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I or in high school, sorry when I was finishing up college second half I started working on creating this music application that had a couple of different unique features And the.
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I started actually moving along.
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I taught myself some prototyping software.
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I'm reading more and more into the industry.
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On the financial side of music, what would it take to pay the artists in a manner that's a lot better than what your typical royalty fees are, or at least were at the time, still are bad?
00:32:18.203 --> 00:32:55.963
And it got to a point where I was speaking with one of the business advisors for SnoopDoc, and so we're talking and she let me know that SnoopDoc and a couple of other older rappers were looking to invest in some allegedly allegedly looking to put some money into a type of platform that supports artists who rap about things that are not drugs, sex and violence and kind of almost like this not entirely, like you know, come to Jesus moment.
00:32:55.963 --> 00:33:01.465
But this idea of wow, we really did a lot of bad things for our community by encouraging them.
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I mean, look at six, nine or half of the rappers that are in court because and their music is being used against them as evidence.
00:33:08.541 --> 00:33:09.817
But it's a.
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It is kind of interesting.
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You're totally right.
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The rhythm and everything it's forms a sense of community.
00:33:15.516 --> 00:33:25.777
But man, oh man, those lyrics are horrible Yeah yeah, there was like a movement on me and Enoch were kids towards like intellectual hip hop.
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You know, like there was, it was more like subgenre, it wasn't mainstream.
00:33:30.938 --> 00:33:35.498
Mainstream was always the money and things like that, but there was like that.
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You know, they had like they had rap.
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That was more intellectual.
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To mystic rap.
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It wasn't so mystic, but you know, i don't have to do a show me and Enoch one day on the hip hop that we listen to as kids.
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But yeah, it's just you.
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just you really understand, like, how much of an influence music has over people.
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I see my own, my own kids.
00:33:58.897 --> 00:34:02.282
You guys should try to get father Stan on for that show.
00:34:03.298 --> 00:34:04.682
Enoch's going to see Father Stan.
00:34:04.835 --> 00:34:06.461
I know that's why you should try to get him.
00:34:06.615 --> 00:34:13.222
I really would love to do, because if I father Stan, i'm not even sure if he remembers me, but I know he'll remember my father.
00:34:13.222 --> 00:34:16.603
I know he'll remember because he used to be at my, my father's house.
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Any knowledge and on the ground, hip hop is very impressive.
00:34:19.822 --> 00:34:27.568
Me and Enoch have a lot of, a lot of a lot of similar domestic father, father level.
00:34:27.695 --> 00:34:28.800
I don't think we tune in for that.
00:34:29.735 --> 00:34:34.347
So father Stan, father Stan, used to make music with my father and my garage as a kid.
00:34:34.347 --> 00:34:39.295
Like they, my dad had a studio in his garage and they would come over and they would jam out in my father's studio.
00:34:39.396 --> 00:34:42.054
It was like I'm wondering if Joe knows who we're even talking about.
00:34:42.315 --> 00:34:43.976
Do you know Father Stan Joe No.
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Father Stan Fortuna.
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Oh man, joe, you're young When you get off the show.
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Look up.
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Everybody got a suffer and sell my only one that got a suffer.
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Everybody got a suffer.
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It's a good song, bro.
00:35:00.735 --> 00:35:04.226
I remember buying that CD at at the Steubenville conference.
00:35:04.226 --> 00:35:07.784
I went to because Father Stan, Father Stan was the headliner.
00:35:08.565 --> 00:35:11.262
Yeah, i mean, listen, that was a big thing back then though.
00:35:11.262 --> 00:35:15.380
Right, Like, listen to me, you can say whatever you want about, like that whole thing.
00:35:15.380 --> 00:35:21.403
But, like I'm telling you, i know I know the, the, the Friars of the renewal.
00:35:21.403 --> 00:35:22.518
They're in the South Bronx.
00:35:22.518 --> 00:35:32.545
Those guys rescued tons of kids off the street and, like, those guys took kids off the street and put them in, like, like, made them men.
00:35:32.545 --> 00:35:39.711
They would take them out to the country and just like, show you know, show them a life they never would have experienced if they hadn't met these men.
00:35:39.711 --> 00:35:50.507
And they would take them out and they would, you know, they like living in, a living in the house that they had for these kids, like this is all for, like you know, for youth that were going on the wrong down the wrong road.
00:35:50.507 --> 00:35:53.340
They'd wake these kids up 5am.
00:35:53.340 --> 00:35:55.126
They'd have to go out, they'd have to start working.
00:35:55.126 --> 00:35:58.282
They'd put them on a farm, make them till the property.
00:35:58.282 --> 00:36:02.860
Don says back in his day they had real music.
00:36:04.938 --> 00:36:08.086
Oh, by the way, to knock earlier you said Father Ripper spoke.
00:36:08.086 --> 00:36:11.425
I'm about a quarter of the way through it, the big old 800 page.
00:36:11.534 --> 00:36:14.184
You say that's impressive because it's like 250 pages.
00:36:15.237 --> 00:36:16.342
You got like a paragraph.
00:36:16.342 --> 00:36:19.943
You got to sit down, have a beer and get back at it.
00:36:21.974 --> 00:36:26.655
Speaking of books, Charles Fraun just sent Rob and I both a copy of his new book.
00:36:26.655 --> 00:36:27.898
We're going to get him on soon.
00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:28.802
He's awesome.
00:36:28.802 --> 00:36:33.619
Shout out to Charles Fraun Yeah, so he just says Rob is it pronounced Franny?
00:36:34.161 --> 00:36:34.461
Franny.
00:36:35.184 --> 00:36:35.304
Yeah.
00:36:36.635 --> 00:36:38.262
He's never going to be called Franny by me.
00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:42.425
I'm going to mispronounce it on purpose at this point.
00:36:45.061 --> 00:36:46.244
No, he said he's really cool.
00:36:46.244 --> 00:36:51.644
His book Slaying Dragons is awesome, so he sent me Slaying Dragons and his new book.
00:36:51.644 --> 00:36:53.440
I think it's Return of the Occult right.
00:36:54.295 --> 00:36:54.936
Rise of the Occult.
00:36:54.936 --> 00:36:56.965
Slaying Dragons 2, the Rise of the Occult.
00:36:57.775 --> 00:37:04.119
So Slaying Dragons is there and Rise of the Occult is right here, so I'm going to try and read as much as I can, maybe we'll get him on Friday.
00:37:04.954 --> 00:37:10.563
That second one that looks a lot thicker than the first Oh, it's a lot thicker, very nice Slaying Dragon.
00:37:10.623 --> 00:37:12.728
He calls it Slaying Dragon, slaying Dragon, slaying Dragon.
00:37:14.014 --> 00:37:16.182
It's a little mini book compared to that one.
00:37:18.699 --> 00:37:20.764
I was going to say I read his first one.
00:37:20.764 --> 00:37:24.041
I have his first one And that was maybe like a 90 minute read.
00:37:24.041 --> 00:37:26.260
That one looks a little bit more hefty.
00:37:26.375 --> 00:37:28.759
Yeah, it was a little hefty, so we're going to get him on.
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Then we were supposed to get Joshua with Charles on Friday and he's editing a book and he is his deadline is Friday.
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So he's not going to make it on Friday.
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So Friday we have that slot open.
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We'll see if Charles Frani wants to make it, but if not, we're going to have Michael Hitchborn and Joshua Charles on on Tuesday.
00:37:49.525 --> 00:37:58.208
So I had so when Joshua canceled on me, he's grabbed Tuesday the 11th to replace it.
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And then Michael Hitchborn texted me this morning and he goes hey, i have the 11th open if you want to do the 11th.
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So I could have either pushed Joshua off or those guys know each other.
00:38:07.804 --> 00:38:12.958
So I think it'll be an interesting show And I figured we like.
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So Josh was like well, wouldn't you just have Michael on?
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Michael can do.
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You know, michael.
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I mean he's Michael Hitchborn, the Lopanto Institute.
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I mean he's got a million things.
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:26.679
But the thing is everybody interviews Michael Hitchborn about the Lopanto Institute and the work that he's doing there.
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:35.601
I had an amazing conversation with Michael Hitchborn that had nothing to do with the Lopanto Institute And I want to get Michael on just to talk.
00:38:35.601 --> 00:38:46.887
I'm like dude, we'll call it blue collar eschatology, like that's what I want to get both of them on, and I want to just talk off the cuff about what is going on in the church right now.
00:38:46.887 --> 00:38:48.480
Like Joe, what is?
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:54.880
how do you make sense of the current pontificate of the Francis?
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Yeah, how do you?
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how do you make sense?
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or like just Francis, or like state of the church as well, the state of the church in general.
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How about that?
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Like, how do you?
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how do you?
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because I just spoke to?
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I Just spoke to a guy named Eric who's doing a pro-life documentary and he asked me to be part of the documentary.
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So we're trying to work it out where I could get he could set the interview up for me.
00:39:14.554 --> 00:39:26.623
But he's a convert and he came in two Easter's ago and I was like wow, like I'm still like I'm in a year after The church shut itself down for crazy, right, like you think about that.
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Like even Joshua Charles comes in Easter 2020.
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Like think about that.
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No, he came in Easter 2019 so his, his, he comes in.
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Easter 2019 came in right after, so his first Easter In the church was 2020 was locked out, yeah lock down right.
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So it's like you really think like God is like.
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I just think it's amazing that God still draws people to his church And times like this.
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It's like I would like if I wasn't a cradle Catholic, i don't know how I would handle it.
00:39:58.958 --> 00:40:03.367
So how do you, how do you make sense of what's going on right now, joe?
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Do you mind if I say just one really cool thing about Charles Ronnie, real quick or short for it.
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When I was at church Melton, my Role was head of their activist armed resistance.
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We ended up growing it from a dormant 800 900 to Just under 7,000 before I left over like two and a half years, three years.
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It was really awesome and part of that was you'd have your States.
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We structured it based off of similar to that of the US CCB.
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Why?
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because primary actions of the resistance focused around the corruption within the church and we had Every chapter was a diocese or an archdiocese, depending on the size of the archdiocese.
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Sometimes we'd break him down smaller ones, but Charles was will, gave a Virtual talking, gave some of his time free of charge, just to share His thoughts on the you know, the aspects of the spiritual warfare, just with the, a group of Catholics that want to do their part in fighting the culture and saving souls, and that always stuck out To me.
00:41:07.097 --> 00:41:14.108
Just the fact that he said no, no problem, i'll hop on a call, i'll video chat with you guys for an hour, no problem.
00:41:14.108 --> 00:41:15.795
That was always just really, really cool.
00:41:15.795 --> 00:41:17.760
So he's just down earth guy.
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Had the pleasure of interviewing him when I was at church, melton, and yeah, just serious shout out to him.
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But um, the culture, huh, what's my take on it?
00:41:27.099 --> 00:41:28.443
Oh, geez, i don't know.
00:41:28.443 --> 00:41:30.728
Feels like, how much time do we have?
00:41:30.728 --> 00:41:38.489
but well, i guess it depends on how, how well I'm doing, anthony, but uh, yeah, so wait, wait, wait, just explain that joke.
00:41:39.016 --> 00:41:41.771
So in the green room, joe Sv goes how long is this show?
00:41:41.771 --> 00:41:45.715
you say go well, it's between an hour and an hour and a half, and if you suck as a guest it'll be an hour.
00:41:45.715 --> 00:41:48.364
If you're doing good it'll go an hour and a half.
00:41:50.896 --> 00:41:57.371
So, um, i think the the culture is done for in a lot of ways It's just, it's just done for.
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Um, i Have a really good former, really good friend of mine.
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We don't really talk anymore, but he and I were chopping it up and he's of good will for the most part.
00:42:07.994 --> 00:42:23.954
I've seen him kind of slip away and slip away, slip away, and we're talking about everything and, and you know, i have this fervor and this fire in the sense of urgency which I still have, and And on the days I don't, i force myself to have it, as every Catholic should try to do.
00:42:23.954 --> 00:42:27.014
I hope I hope that's what every Catholic should do, or else I'm doing something wrong.
00:42:27.014 --> 00:42:30.309
But he just said but what is there to do?
00:42:30.309 --> 00:42:31.655
like, what do you do about it, man?
00:42:31.655 --> 00:42:38.034
And it really just kind of clicked for me, because that was a friend of mine, a very good friend of mine.
00:42:38.034 --> 00:42:42.666
We're just out having a beer, call each other up when we got off of work and decided to hang out, good buddies.
00:42:42.666 --> 00:42:51.128
And That's a guy who smokes all the time, plays games all the time, goes out and drinks on the weekends.
00:42:51.648 --> 00:43:13.414
There's no, there's no desire To change the culture, which is why I don't think there could ever be enough of these, of these Catholic or at least conservative Podcasts, because it might seem like a gutted market, but when you look at how many lost sheep there are, people need to really, really wake up.
00:43:13.414 --> 00:43:27.548
But the as long as you have pop being legalized, which some argue it's not a Psychologically addictive drug, well, habitually and we're speaking to lifestyle it certainly is.
00:43:27.548 --> 00:43:42.382
And When you have video games and pornography, oh my gosh, all of these different things, the party lifestyle and the generations ahead, i don't see any Really big hope for the culture.
00:43:42.382 --> 00:43:49.119
Of course, always have the supernatural hope, always pray that every soul that dies Does not suffer damnation.
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:58.335
But when you look at how many people don't know anything or know something and choose to not care Which we talked about earlier, rob, it's, it's really tough.
00:43:58.635 --> 00:44:07.545
And that was one reason why, again, when I was at resistance, i kind of came to this Conclusion for the motto of restoring Christendom big, lofty goal.
00:44:07.545 --> 00:44:08.728
How do you ever do that?
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One soul at a time.
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You can do one soul at a time.
00:44:12.704 --> 00:44:23.958
You can go from your neighbor across the street to your Aunt Lucy at Thanksgiving dinner, to your co-worker, when you see them nine to five, and Eventually go and go and go.
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:49.903
So in theory you can go from one soul to another soul, to another soul, to another soul, but the end goal is when you look at the onslaught that's happening today, it's really scary you know it's funny, it's like we talk about like all the insanity in the church and I've never seen more conversions in my life than I have in the last couple of years Through that, like all my siblings coming back to the faith.
00:44:49.903 --> 00:45:00.096
My sister Michelle, like Dude, my sister Michelle just went through a crazy divorce Like She.
00:45:00.096 --> 00:45:03.762
She was like really going through like so a very.
00:45:03.762 --> 00:45:08.202
There was a very wide chasm between Catholicism and my sister She.
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She believed in God, she had it.
00:45:09.938 --> 00:45:21.186
You know she loved her Bible, but there was a very big chasm between the Catholic faith and my sister because she just went through a divorce And she knows what the church is teaching on divorces and I think there was like a barrier there for her.
00:45:21.186 --> 00:45:24.641
Two weeks ago my sister calls me on the phone.
00:45:24.641 --> 00:45:35.565
She just went to a novus ordo mass and she was like everything just felt wrong at this mass and You know what part she had the hardest time with Rob.
00:45:37.135 --> 00:45:41.699
Was at orientum or lack versus populum Versus populum.
00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:43.503
She just it.
00:45:43.503 --> 00:45:49.403
Just it was so difficult for her to grasp Why is this priest facing us?
00:45:49.403 --> 00:45:51.954
So she's like I don't even you know I could like it.
00:45:51.954 --> 00:45:56.878
I think if she had found an ad orientum novus ordo, she would have been okay.
00:45:56.878 --> 00:46:02.429
But something was irking her about this versus populum mass, so much so that she calls me.
00:46:02.429 --> 00:46:04.302
She's like I need to go to a Latin mass.
00:46:04.302 --> 00:46:10.414
The past two Sundays she's been coming to Latin mass with me and she's like it's so funny.
00:46:10.414 --> 00:46:23.608
I'm watching my sister who like really, when I tell you a chasm between Catholicism and her life Vailing at mass, bringing her kids back to mass, like I'm seeing miracles like I haven't seen on the small scale.
00:46:23.608 --> 00:46:35.628
Like, yeah, okay, the church is going through its passion and people are falling away from the faith, but when I see my siblings Coming back to mass, like my heart lights up, like I'm like this is amazing, you know.
00:46:36.175 --> 00:46:44.759
My mom has started to talk about coming back, and she's been away for 20 years, so That's amazing, you really.
00:46:44.838 --> 00:46:57.474
I'm telling you, things are so upside down in the world right now And I think, look that there's, there's I think I forgot what scripture it is But in the apocalypse God talks about sending his angels out to gather his flock.
00:46:58.219 --> 00:47:13.494
Like you know that it's like things are going to get crazy And I think God really is pouring out grace on individuals, even though we're seeing the hierarchy go down this horrific Synodality road and we know that nothing good can come of synodality.
00:47:13.494 --> 00:47:32.047
But in, in, on the small scale and in the micro, in the micro aspect of things, i am seeing a lot of conversions and, like I said, my, my brother and sister-in-law, who were nominally Lutheran, would go to church Just because, like I think a lot of people in in our culture go to church for heaven insurance.
00:47:32.047 --> 00:47:41.746
Right, like they go, like they don't know anything about the gospel but it's like, well, just in case, i'm gonna go to, i'm gonna Go to church for heaven insurance, like I really think a lot of people do that.
00:47:41.746 --> 00:47:54.661
And For those for my brother-in-law and sister-in-law to really be asking deeper questions and being curious like I like to me, i don't see any other explanation other than God's grace in that scenario.
00:47:57.447 --> 00:47:59.257
May I jump in You?
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never have to ask, joe, you could talk over me just tell him to shut up.
00:48:02.275 --> 00:48:03.518
You don't have to ask.
00:48:05.416 --> 00:48:06.664
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
00:48:06.664 --> 00:48:08.635
In fact, father level was telling me that the other day.
00:48:08.635 --> 00:48:17.106
That was my criticism for me is that I, i asked people for permission to speak, but I I don't think that things like that.
00:48:17.106 --> 00:48:26.864
Well, so as I'm listening to you, anthony, and you, rob, there's this The traditional Catholic and the traditionally Catholic.
00:48:26.864 --> 00:48:33.295
The traditional Catholic mass, they don't change, they're always be holding in the truth because it's the fullness of the truth.
00:48:33.295 --> 00:48:36.605
So as the world goes to shit, shoot stuff, i'm sorry.
00:48:36.605 --> 00:48:54.880
Hopefully it's sorry As the world that goes to Helen a handbasket, the, the stalwart Catholic or the Catholic who's trying to maintain orthodoxy, and The Latin mass, which is tradition and the fullness of the faith in the mass, those don't change.
00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:02.715
And so when you have people practicing it, you're going to see if people who are out in the world going wow, this really sucks, like holy crap.
00:49:02.715 --> 00:49:04.721
What is target really?
00:49:04.721 --> 00:49:16.090
selling tucking underwear right now, and Then they was doing this Target are they really, oh talking, at least a talking I'm like no, no underwear.
00:49:16.110 --> 00:49:20.324
Why no talking All right That would be better than you say talking with the original.
00:49:25.215 --> 00:49:31.275
They just like, think, like they look for something That's true or good or something that resonates with what's written on all of our hearts.
00:49:31.275 --> 00:49:38.222
And then they turn and they look to their family members, to their robbers or to their Anthony's and to what they practice or to what they grew up with.
00:49:38.222 --> 00:49:44.784
They try to find something that seems normal and That's, that's the, that's the saving grace.
00:49:44.784 --> 00:49:45.626
I and I.
00:49:45.626 --> 00:49:53.764
I Hate when I hear these And I'm genuinely not speaking about anyone in particular when I hate.
00:49:54.246 --> 00:50:01.547
I hate when I hear or when I see Catholic nonprofits, catholic media outlets or people who work there.
00:50:01.547 --> 00:50:15.880
They don't go to the Latin mass because they're smart enough, boy, are they intelligent enough to have the objective understanding that the traditional ass has a capability to provide a better spiritual life for Everybody who's attending?
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:21.894
And when they say, oh, you know, the Latin mass is, it's okay, but it's not for me.
00:50:21.894 --> 00:50:34.335
I hate seeing those two things because it's people just choose, choose to miss the mark, the faith, or the mass on Sunday is the one hour where people should never say I, you know, i just don't get anything out of it.
00:50:34.335 --> 00:50:50.811
That's the one hour, all the way, looking at the Ten Commandments back back at the Amish times where it was He obviously give God, you give you know, it's funny about that, though, like you know, like we as Catholics, we say it's not about what you get.
00:50:50.931 --> 00:50:52.115
Like you're going to the mass, you're not.
00:50:52.115 --> 00:50:55.644
It's not about what you get and it's not about your feelings, right?
00:50:55.644 --> 00:51:07.065
But like there is feelings At the mass, right, like I do feel Totally Something at the traditional mass that I don't feel at the Nova Sordo.
00:51:07.065 --> 00:51:16.307
Now I understand, like we're not going for the feelings, but there's something striking about the traditional mass mess the ages might need to steal, joe Gallagher.
00:51:16.307 --> 00:51:18.038
Okay, wait, no.
00:51:18.038 --> 00:51:18.920
So wait, all right.
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:22.922
So Italian Feast, the St Paul, linus, williamsburg, brooklyn.
00:51:22.922 --> 00:51:24.284
L Lady Malcom, it should be.
00:51:24.284 --> 00:51:25.467
That's actually a good idea.
00:51:25.467 --> 00:51:27.061
It's on Sunday, so I've gone to.
00:51:27.061 --> 00:51:29.798
They have the.
00:51:29.798 --> 00:51:32.159
What feast is it?
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.514
Oh, man sin.
00:51:36.514 --> 00:51:43.056
I've gone to a couple of feasts in Brooklyn With feasts.
00:51:43.056 --> 00:51:46.545
They have the st Anthony feast, of course, but no, there's another one.
00:51:46.545 --> 00:51:47.467
I forget what it is.
00:51:47.467 --> 00:51:56.697
Oh, but it's on Sunday.
00:51:56.697 --> 00:51:57.380
It's in Williamsburg.
00:51:57.380 --> 00:51:58.503
Maybe I will pop in on that.
00:51:58.503 --> 00:52:00.047
That's not a bad idea.
00:52:00.047 --> 00:52:04.047
So I'll be repping as a B-shirt, all right.
00:52:04.047 --> 00:52:05.452
So wait, do you follow me on Twitter?
00:52:05.472 --> 00:52:10.014
if you follow me on Twitter, shoot me a DM which we're sure, the one that says Italy isn't real on the back.
00:52:10.014 --> 00:52:12.139
I'd maybe not suggest that one.
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.327
Look at this one is bad, bad ass shot that my son made me.
00:52:15.327 --> 00:52:18.701
So, yeah, it's like it's this weird thing We're like.
00:52:18.701 --> 00:52:22.030
We always say it's like it's not about feelings And it's not about what you get.
00:52:22.030 --> 00:52:34.958
But there's something strange where I do Feel something in the traditional mess that I don't feel in the Nova, sort of no, is that bad like no, nero fast, i'm sorry, god.
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:35.981
No, that's.
00:52:35.981 --> 00:52:46.300
That shows how loving God is that even when we're supposed to give for just one hour Out of whatever, seven times 24 is 106, 68, 48.
00:52:46.300 --> 00:52:51.047
Seven times 24 Yeah, 168 hours in a week He just asks for one.
00:52:51.550 --> 00:53:05.123
Even in that one hour, you still get things back like those, content, those consolation races, or When you go to mass and you give for that one hour, he gives you himself all this.
00:53:05.123 --> 00:53:16.025
This eternal being That created you and holds the entire universe together Gives himself to you in return for you choosing to give yourself for one hour.
00:53:16.025 --> 00:53:17.809
And that's so beautiful.
00:53:17.809 --> 00:53:19.018
That's the talk.
00:53:19.018 --> 00:53:23.688
Talk about a beautiful picture of how much God loves mankind.
00:53:24.094 --> 00:53:28.103
Sorry the difference in in Catholic grace and Protestant grace.
00:53:28.103 --> 00:53:37.682
Like so Protestants would say grace is undeserved favor, which is true, right, i mean sure grace is undeserved favor, but it's it's.
00:53:37.682 --> 00:53:39.929
It doesn't go nearly far enough.
00:53:39.929 --> 00:53:44.297
Grace is God gives himself Like that.
00:53:44.297 --> 00:53:46.001
That is what grace is like.
00:53:46.001 --> 00:53:54.827
God gives him something like when Jesus says if you do not eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you, like the life He gives you is himself.
00:53:54.827 --> 00:53:59.971
It's just such a deeper, richer understanding of grace than a Protestant would have.
00:54:00.793 --> 00:54:01.135
I agree.
00:54:01.135 --> 00:54:06.148
You know, i think that, yeah, martin Luther called it and we're all dung but covered in gold and grace is the gold.
00:54:06.148 --> 00:54:10.869
But forgive me for using like a really crappy example and I can shut up, just tell me when.
00:54:10.869 --> 00:54:16.364
But I look at like we're a Cup and you know we are also what the cup holds.
00:54:16.364 --> 00:54:23.507
But you know, grace is transformative and We have to purge ourselves of all of the filth that's in the cup.
00:54:23.507 --> 00:54:32.005
Hopefully not being radical, because I know it's not 100% accurate for the theological descriptions, but it's a you know you hear the comments if you're here.
00:54:34.038 --> 00:54:38.920
We had Daniel O'Connor on the other day and We were talking about Protestant.
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:47.958
Like the Protestants, like you were saying, like I'm dumb, covered in the gold of Christ, right, protestant heaven is communist.
00:54:48.179 --> 00:54:50.204
Yeah, i have this banner ready at all times.
00:54:50.204 --> 00:54:51.248
Yeah, yeah, this might be.
00:54:53.197 --> 00:54:55.494
So like Protestant, heaven is communist.
00:54:55.494 --> 00:54:56.556
It's like okay.
00:54:56.556 --> 00:55:00.987
So like they, they, they view it as like you're wearing a members only jacket.
00:55:00.987 --> 00:55:08.255
Yeah, when you go, when you go into heaven, god doesn't see you, but sees his son, because you're wearing the cloak of Christ.
00:55:09.177 --> 00:55:09.677
Is right.
00:55:09.677 --> 00:55:12.144
They have no theology of theosis at all.
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No theology of theosis.
00:55:13.306 --> 00:55:15.460
They have no understanding of the kingdom.
00:55:15.460 --> 00:55:24.230
A kingdom has a hierarchy right Like there's, there's, you know, when Jesus says, like do this and you'll build treasure in heaven.
00:55:24.230 --> 00:55:28.601
Like you actually are, there will be a hierarchy in heaven.
00:55:28.601 --> 00:55:30.364
Like when you compare yourself.
00:55:30.364 --> 00:55:43.820
It's crazy when Protestants talk about Mary and they don't understand like she will be infinitely more beautiful and like more Bright than any of us will like.
00:55:43.820 --> 00:55:46.226
There's not even a comparison and they just don't get it.
00:55:46.226 --> 00:55:48.760
Yeah, more tickers.
00:55:48.780 --> 00:55:51.483
What's tickers, more tickers.
00:55:51.483 --> 00:55:52.027
What I?
00:55:52.047 --> 00:55:52.875
just had scrolling.
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Oh.
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Joe hates them.
00:55:56.086 --> 00:55:57.597
Oh, i do.
00:55:57.597 --> 00:55:58.621
I don't like tickers.
00:55:58.621 --> 00:56:00.967
Well, i don't like tickers that are trying to feed real-time information.
00:56:00.967 --> 00:56:02.541
I guess you know technically, father, we can't.
00:56:02.541 --> 00:56:03.503
It's distracting.
00:56:03.503 --> 00:56:07.246
Well, yeah, it does take away from what the people are saying.
00:56:08.436 --> 00:56:11.565
We don't say anything of substance, so tickers aren't gonna take away from anything here.
00:56:11.565 --> 00:56:19.188
We got some other tickers to Rob's got Rob's, got someone.
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I go for marriage advice, right, what is the other one?
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I don't support anything.
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Don't listen to Anthony.
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We are not responsible for your marriage problems.
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I love giving marriage advice.
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We have, we have a history on this channel.
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All right, should we get to the Google story, rob?
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Sure, let me bring it up.
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Let's get to the Google story.
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So this one was interesting.
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Um, google Drops pride month.
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I know pride month is over, but Google drops pride month drag show in wake of employee petition Alleging religious bias.
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This is how we fight back people.
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Do we want to make a bet, though, on what Religion it was protesting this?
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it was Christians.
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Oh, was it really?
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It was Christians?
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Yeah, no assuming another one so Google has found itself in the midst of a controversy after deciding to cancel a drag show That the company planned as the closing event for pride month.
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According to CNBC, the decision came after an internal petition was circulated by a group of employees who opposed the claiming religious discrimination.
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So the petition, signed by several hundred employees, argued that the drag performance sexualized and disrespected Christian co-workers, ultimately accusing Google of religious bias.
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Every year, google sponsors a range of pride events in various locations, including San Francisco, that are open to both employees in the public.
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According to the events now removed internal description, this year's closing event was intended to be a pride and drag show featuring a famous performer.
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I wouldn't even say it.
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I'm not going to peaches and the last name is our saviors.
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So he was supposed to perform at blank barbo in San Francisco Tuesday.
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When the employee petition started circulating, the event was discreetly removed from the internal company events page.
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Google acknowledged the change To see NBC and clarified that the performance was no longer considered a Google recognized Diversity, equity and inclusion event.
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Like okay, so if You saw it with the sisters of perpetual indulgence, these are not just random things, this is like.
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Every time they do it, they are mocking Christianity Right.
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So like, how can you not have a ground to stand on when you, as a Christian, come And so?
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alright, so one of my, one of my family members works for a company like this and they sent them a questionnaire and They had to answer this questionnaire.
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And it was all about Pride Month.
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And do you support this and do you do?
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Do you feel comfortable sharing your personal beliefs publicly?
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So my, my family member wrote no, i don't, because if they shared their Private beliefs as a Christian, they would be ostracized.
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Right, but the thing is Just like you saw a Google when one person does something alone, they may get ostracized, but if you get a couple of people together, then you start getting some momentum and then, and it isn't, i think, the reason why this succeeded is that they they made use of the fact that religion, in terms of Workplace law, is a protected class.
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So when you start to allege Discrimination due to religion, then suddenly Google opens itself up to a ton of legal liability, whereas you know, as far as other protests or Petitions we may have seen, when they just maybe say something about family values or something like that, well, there's, there's, no, there's a lot less legal liability involved with something like that.
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So I think it's.
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I think we have to be smart about how we play it, and going the religious Discrimination route was a good idea.
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Yeah, well, you're looking at it.
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What?
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especially when they're mocking something specifically Christian right, like when you see the the public.
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Nothing appalled me more than those sisters of perpetual indulgence, like, especially having a sister going into religious life, like it just there was something so Gross about that that really like I've never been so offended by Something blasphemous like that.
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Like it was blasphemous what they were doing, like, and it really set me off for me To want to go and do something about it.
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But if you get a group of people together, you'll actually inspire other people and it's like memetic desire works both ways.
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It could work in where, where you know, where you could.
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I mean that's, that's how, what's it who does?
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who came up with the memetic desire thing?
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Well, you mean, like, who was on our channel talking about it?
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Well, no, it was Patrick coffin.
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But who was he telling us to?
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Do you remember Well?
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either way, he was saying like so it's the reason that the, the, crowd cheers crucify him, crucify him.
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Is because nobody wants to stand out and be the lone person all on there on their own, going against the crowd.
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Everybody kind of just wants to fit in.
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But if you get a group of people to start a yard, rené Girard, there you go.
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So what if you get a couple of people to?
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set that trend.
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Other people to set that trend.
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Other people will join it because people feel comfort when there's more than one person doing it.
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I just wonder if, how much I Look, as you can see at least so for as long as I've been aware of Politics the left and the culture wars really I should say instead culture wars The left would like take three steps, knowing that that third step is going to be too much of poking the bear, it'll settle on to like look at the Shifting of the, the Overton window, basically yeah, pretty much, and that's how they do it.
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You know, game marriage comes out in 2015, immediately when that one year later, if, if that We're having this bathroom thing about trans, it wasn't okay then.
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But now here we are, just give it five years and I I look at what's happened with the drag queen thing too.
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Before, i mean, if the drag queen situation was showing was going on with kids in 2010, there'd be some people accepting it, for sure, but people would be up in arms about it.
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Now It is to the point where Christians Are only going to come out in force and in mass if it directly attacks their faith.
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Yeah and that's the, that's what's scary.
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How many, how many of those people at Google would have been there.
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Those people at Google would have said, yeah, let's circulate a petition, if it wasn't that peaches Man doing what he's doing.
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They're just, you know, peaches Jones.
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Yeah, what would people really care?
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and also to your point, rob, i think that was really a really astute point.
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Google probably wouldn't have responded because it wouldn't have touched the religious discrimination thing as directly.
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So a lot of people making a big thing out of The pushback that Pride Month got this year, like everybody's like.
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Oh yeah, you know the Bud Light thing happened and there was so much pushback on The rainbow agenda this Pride Month but I almost felt like they were setting us up Like I felt like they were just setting us up to make us look like bigots And they're going to come back even harder and just set it up so that we Look what happened right at the end of the month.
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Michigan passed a law, more or less you know, getting rid of the First Amendment saying that Any more or less any, any bad-mouthing of the alphabet cult will is a crime 43 or 34.
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That'll never hold up, that'll make it wait that'll make.
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I know what you're saying, Yeah like that's, that's what they do, right.
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Like they, like you're saying a hundred percent, like they're now instituting laws that if you misgender somebody or something, that'll never hold up in a court of law, once you get to this not under this Supreme Court, i mean, who knows it'll happen, you know, with it, with a new, new crop or if they expand it.
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But the but I just think that they are setting us up to.
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They found a way to make Christianity evil in their, in their view.
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They've made, they found a way to make us the ones who don't love and us the ones who don't, who don't like we're the evil bigots now.
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I was gonna say, and did we really have any actual victories this last month?
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Oh yeah, we can't drink but light anymore.
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Yeah, who cares, like?
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I mean, you know they're there.
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It was an improvement, maybe, but there were no real victories, no long lasting, long-term victories.
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It just drew that line that much further in this country that you know that's eventually gonna drive the country apart, which is a good in my opinion, probably a good thing but I Don't know man, i see Civil.
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War on the horizon?
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Well, that was my question.
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You know I mean at what when you look at communism and Antifa?
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I can't help it I.
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That's pretty good.
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Robin, that's a funny line bro.
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What, what, um, when you like relativism, you can't reason with them because their truth is whatever they want their truth to be, it's subjective.
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So at that point, the Truth of the land can only come about after a power struggle, violent power struggle, if and if I, you, you see it's right out that we're at a we're at an hour and six, so Joe did not stink as a guest doing good, joe.
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I just want to point that out, you got we made it past the one hour mark.
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Joe's doing great.
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But thanks, guys, it's.
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I've had actually a really great time have me on anytime, but they're always welcome in, of course I think, like I think that.
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So I watched Tim Flanders and the guys over meaning a Catholic did a Fourth of July show and they were, they went, they went through and they were talking about like what are you grateful for this fourth?
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and and that was really good I almost got the sense like I'm not even kidding.
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This felt like Creepily eerily like last one your last Fourth of July dude.
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Okay, you interrupt a Joe, though, so now Joe gets to finish.
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Every mother loves their child differently.
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Um, i didn't call myself a mother there, so let's, but I do, i think.
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I think that there's a violence Thing on the horizon and and for a Catholic, the the question that hasn't really been brought into the public sphere is Is it always just going to be self-defense in a reactionary form when it comes to dealing with the antifa types or when it comes to dealing with With people attacking the pro-life clinics?
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I I'm not advocating for some type of moral violence where people get, you know, killed and they can't meet their maker unless, again, of course, it was.
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You had to defend yourself and you're in a life-or-death situation.
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But you look at an abortion mill and We reason to believe that women go in there and murder their children and The best we can do is drive by and say, hey, old Mary, we should.
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Prayer is very powerful, our lady's intercession is huge, but that's the best that we can do, even though 40 years ago people were out in Ansys hand cuffing themselves to each other, thousands lying on the ground, shutting down abortion mills, risking going to jail.
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I mean, the closest thing we have to that today is red rose rescue with Monica Miller.
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People are being murdered and we it.
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Just it seems like so much of conservative and Catholic activism is so Toothless and of course there's a chest piece and there's some prudence They have to play.
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But I don't know, it's just a question.
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It's just a question I have.
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Yeah it's a topic I'd love to really get into, but it would, oh man, we'd be kicked off of YouTube for good, so fast some of the things I'd want to say.
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I think that There's no way You'll ever He'll like, there's no way you'll ever be able to unify this country again.
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You're talking about people who disagree on such a fundamental level of right and wrong.
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You're talking about people who think that Sending children for surgeries is a good thing As opposed to the most evil thing you could possibly.
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I mean, you're talking about like if we, if you took this conversation Back 20 years, some of these parents would be put in prison.
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Their children would be taken away from them.
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We should be in prison.
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So I watched.
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Somebody said something the other day.
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I think Calvin Robinson retweeted it.
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It was a video of a woman saying Yeah, I know what you're talking about the reason you're getting so much pushback right now is because there are parents who let their children do this and For them to admit that what they did was wrong.
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They'll never be able to admit it to themselves.
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They can't right, it would destroy them.
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They need to justify this decision They mean they made to Help their child in this thing, so that the reason you'll never get anyone Who's gone through this to ever admit it's the same thing.
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With What?
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with the, what the abortion issue right, it's like for a woman.
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There's two ways that could go there.
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A woman can have a moment of grace where God Softens her heart and she has an absolute repentance moment.
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But the other is double down and be proud of your thing, like right, like they have that, like shout your abortion, like they go to that extreme because for them to admit that what they did was wrong is so unbelievably alien to What we laugh at.
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When Eric Sam is does a show, i pop comments into trying to try to make them break like the trying to get them to laugh For the levels.
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Basically do what I do.
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Yeah, i.
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I think the difference between like abortion regret and In regret with the trans issue is is one like that's in the.
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As far as abortion goes, it's in the past That child and it's over, it's gone.
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It's over, right The so they don't have to keep Rejustifying it to themselves, the way a parent whose child is in the next room sleeping And it's still going through it has to do.
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and at the same time, with the abortion You know it was, it was a moment, it could have been a momentary decision, a momentary mistake, yeah, whereas with the trans issue It's.
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it's something that parent is deciding every single day to continue to give the kids Drugs, that's castrating them and you know all this it's such a weird thing because they're using the Christian impulse to show empathy Right, which is a good thing.
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Yeah, sam is was dressed properly for the conference, but I got more views than him on my video.
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For the record, anthony's been checking multiple times a day to make sure that's.
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It's always like it more than Eric.
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I don't care.
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I don't care if I got 17 views, as long as Eric got 16.
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I'm happy.
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That's all that matters to me.
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He's.
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He's my mortal enemy, like forever that man.
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Me and him are enemies until the end of time.
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They're Anthony from conferences until he dressed for until Tell Eric goes geriatric and senile, which is probably pretty soon.
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He is my mortal enemy.
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Him and I will never be friends.
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So it's When we went out to dinner he goes listen, did you ever see?
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It's Who's the?
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Jimmy Kimmel and Matt Damon their friends in real life.
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But But they have this thing going where they pretend they hate each other and, like, jimmy Kimmel will never have Matt Damon on his show and like, whenever he's brought up, he's like I hate that guy, i hate that guy.
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But in real life They're actually friends, eric's like.
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I really think we should go with that route, because I don't want to be on your show anymore.
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He's such a sicko I'm gonna kill him.
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What are we talking about?
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Oh, okay, so they're using the Christian impulse for empathy, right, like, which is a good impulse, like it's always good to like try to put yourself in Another person shoes and try to try to be empathetic to them.
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But they're taking it to this level.
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That's so twisted that They want us to say it's okay to do these things and it's just, it's just preposterous.
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It's like to stay to care for an individual is one thing, but to to bless the entire movement is something totally different.
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So, like, but you know, i know gay people in my real life like, i would never Be cruel to that person, but when we're talking about the movement in general, that that's a very different thing than dealing with an individual on an individual basis.
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I think that the emotional response is Correct on both sides.
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I feel for that person.
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I recognize their pain, i want to help them.
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Yeah, the Liberals idea is let's further the pain by satisfying them immediately, immediately.
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It's vice.
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You know the vicious person says, alright, well, let's just help you now, whereas the virtuous person, the Catholic stance, is okay, it's gonna be a long, crappy, sucky, painful road, but this is what's better for you to fight those impulses.
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And I, i had that conversation.
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I have a cousin.
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She just graduated.
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She just graduated high school and every time I just saw this past weekend And I gave her a hug and I just said how's my little SJW doing?
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and We go back and forth about it.
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But I told her liberal, if you're 18 and liberal, you have a heart, and If you're 30 and conservative, you have a brain classic break.
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And yeah, that's that's, that's Churchill.
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Churchill.
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Thank you, yeah, like you should have.
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You should have a.
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You know, as a young person you do want to show that empathy and but as you get older your brain starts to kick in and stuff.
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But So it's like my wife's best friend, who she's been friends with since she was 17, is a gay guy, right, and it's like When he comes over I'm nothing but kind to him and and he's actually.
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He was raised Eastern Catholic, so which strange is.
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The last time I saw him I was like Paul, will you take me to a divine liturgy?
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I've never been to a divine litter.
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Like there's ways to still talk about it.
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Like there's still ways to.
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He knows I'm Catholic, he knows my faith is the most important thing in the world to me, but he doesn't feel like I'm pointing the finger at him when he comes over and and he knows I love him and he knows that I, you know he knows what I believe.
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It's just you know it's when you're dealing with an individual, it's one thing when you're dealing with this movement.
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This movement is something very toxic and very scary and and and the way they're going after children is very.
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It's a lot that we have to worry about.
01:16:18.987 --> 01:16:30.052
So you know it's kind of like Robert Nugent's take that he gave while he was on our show about the the Enoch Burke situation, like I want to.
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And he said you know he totally Gets and respects Enoch Burke's Who, if you don't know, he was a teacher in Ireland who's opposing You know the whole, the whole trans stuff over there.
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He gets an understanding and respects Enoch Burke for how he stood up but at the same time He doesn't necessarily agree with what he was he did because In the end this was really about A kid with issues who was suffering and who this big media storm is.
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It's not going to help that individual in the end.
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Yeah, i didn't think of it from that perspective.
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Until Robert said that to us, right, like, for me, i was just like yeah, enoch Burke is great, is great, he's great.
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But like, really, when you're dealing with an individual, it's very different than when you're looking at an entire movement, like that.
01:17:22.025 --> 01:17:25.840
Father Lovell says you should go after him more, because the Roman right is superior.
01:17:28.706 --> 01:17:44.363
Yes, with the unique expression of the Roman right or the traditional expression No, you know what I've actually found like, like Talking to him about liturgy has been pretty interesting, right, because he was Like his.
01:17:44.363 --> 01:17:56.496
So what it was is his father was Greek Orthodox and his mother was Catholic, so they settled on a Byzantine Catholic Church So he went to divine liturgy and all this stuff.
01:17:56.496 --> 01:18:08.376
But I mean he has I think he has a lot of In his mind would be religious trauma, but I really just think it's Stuff that he's never, you know, work through and talked about.
01:18:08.376 --> 01:18:11.380
But he gets excited to tell me about things Because he knows how much I am into my faith.
01:18:11.380 --> 01:18:16.760
So when, like when Easter comes around, he always goes well, now you're, your Easter calendar is different than mine.
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:17.725
You know things like that.
01:18:18.881 --> 01:18:22.079
We'll talk about liturgy and it's like all right, paul, come on, take me to a divine liturgy.
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:28.578
I want to say I want to, i want to check it out, so we'll see how that goes.
01:18:28.578 --> 01:18:35.960
And then did we want to touch on the, on the vegan thing, like we, we did put that in the title originally and then we kind of changed it.
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:46.878
But the you know starting some kind of a, something similar to the coalition, where he's going to try to help out, i guess, people who are not really interested in the.
01:18:46.878 --> 01:18:58.725
I guess people who are dealing with The Francis pontificate clergy that are dealing with the Francis pontificate and I think he's doing something, something along those lines, right is I?
01:18:58.725 --> 01:18:59.587
I saw the.
01:18:59.587 --> 01:19:01.612
I saw the story on anthony stein this morning is a.
01:19:01.612 --> 01:19:08.037
It was a story in gateway pundit, so Helping religious victims of the deep church.
01:19:08.139 --> 01:19:14.811
So It's, it wasn't, isn't exerge a dominate the title of the bowl against Martin Luther.
01:19:15.634 --> 01:19:15.894
Is it?
01:19:17.961 --> 01:19:19.889
I didn't know that I think it might be.
01:19:21.801 --> 01:19:24.930
Um, let me say I'm gonna pull up the story so I can read it better.
01:19:27.421 --> 01:19:28.304
Okay, let's see.
01:19:28.304 --> 01:19:32.322
So, all right.
01:19:32.322 --> 01:19:36.899
So carlo maria vegano, archbishop apostolic nuncio, announces the association.
01:19:36.899 --> 01:19:46.983
Exergy dominate is born to help priests and religious who are victims of the bergolian and deep church Prophets is in the deep church purges.
01:19:46.983 --> 01:19:50.729
All right, so it's basically something similar to the coalition.
01:19:50.729 --> 01:19:53.635
There's no association whatsoever between them.
01:19:54.440 --> 01:20:07.405
Um, but I just think these things in general are, are some like okay, so before I, before I offered to give my talk at the coalition conference, it was something I had to actually think about.
01:20:07.405 --> 01:20:18.747
Right, and it's like you hear this thing all the time, especially novus ordo catholics, that These priests should act like padre pio and suffer in silence.
01:20:18.747 --> 01:20:36.884
And many times you see it from a priest Tweeting from his iphone 12 and tweeted 700 times that day, and it's like, dude, don't talk to me about what these priests should do, like padre pio, while you're literally tweeting away a storm over here, like, like, let's just chill out.
01:20:36.884 --> 01:20:43.221
There's a very different situation, not just between promise and and um And vow.
01:20:43.743 --> 01:20:45.006
That's not really what.
01:20:45.006 --> 01:20:49.712
That's not really where the difference is There is, don't get me wrong, that is a difference.
01:20:49.712 --> 01:20:51.079
To me It's.
01:20:51.079 --> 01:21:03.063
If we don't offer priests who speak the truth an option To be backed up like if we don't offer hey, like if something.
01:21:03.063 --> 01:21:09.306
If you get hit by the guillotine because you said something true, like there's, there's a place for you, like there.
01:21:09.306 --> 01:21:15.640
If we don't offer that, we will never get any clergy to speak the truth ever.
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:27.693
They will all just try to keep their heads down and they won't say a thing and the ones who do get canceled will just vanish into obscurity And we will have nothing to push back against this thing that is happening right now.
01:21:28.260 --> 01:21:31.086
This is coming from joe as in.
01:21:31.086 --> 01:21:46.966
You know business owner, not speaking on behalf of the coalition at all, but you know the In something like this, in a case like this, it makes more sense to just back the coalition Instead of create another one.
01:21:46.966 --> 01:21:54.103
You know, you have this, i, there are so many different priests and different nuns that have been, that have been canceled.
01:21:54.103 --> 01:21:55.667
It just makes more sense to have it.
01:21:55.667 --> 01:22:00.386
And and also because if veganos aren't creating this, this isn't going to.
01:22:00.386 --> 01:22:12.197
This is something made by canceled priests for canceled priests, which is um Kind of an interesting take and it, it, it just doesn't, it doesn't really compute in my mind.
01:22:12.197 --> 01:22:20.243
I think it's a great call, um, i think that you know, to support those who are canceled as a thesis and as a purpose is great, absolutely.
01:22:20.824 --> 01:23:00.050
But uh, the coalition exists and they're doing great work and You guys exist outside of america the coalition, uh, yes, that's people internationally, and uh, you're saying um, whereas veganos is created by a priest, for priests, you're saying, as opposed to the coalition which many people probably don't realize Is actually was created and run by laity, for yes, correct, it's laity for priests and because it, i think that there's this like really clean break in a sense, because if it's run by priests for priests, then it's.
01:23:00.270 --> 01:23:06.966
it's just more of this question of obedience and vows and listening to your bishop Don't you do this, don't you do that?
01:23:06.966 --> 01:23:11.823
and whereas the laity as to akoshine's words It's up to the laity.
01:23:11.863 --> 01:23:57.300
the laity have much more freedom to say no, i'm gonna do what I want with my dollars, i'm going to do what I would like to and supporting these priests how I wish to, and I think that that's, um, it's just, it's a different angle, but the purpose, of course, i think, is very noble, absolutely so I think you also run it with with the way the, the, the coalition is is Structured compared to, like you said, this being created by an archbishop is when you're you're you're talking about a touchy subject of about cancelled priests I think there's more transparency with the laity run organization being able to do background checks and and looking into each Pre situation and making sure that you know it's, it's a valid case of being unjustly cancelled.
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:07.006
Injustly cancelled whereas you know, we've seen bishops cover up for Priests for the last, you know, 50 years, for multiple reasons.
01:24:07.006 --> 01:24:12.689
So I think it's just more prudent The way the coalition is formed and structured.
01:24:13.619 --> 01:24:14.523
Yeah, i do agree.
01:24:14.523 --> 01:24:19.399
What's interesting about the coalition is um, because, um, i've gotten contact.
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:32.064
I got somebody contacted me when I said I was speaking at the conference and they were like you're, you're basically the same, padre P O Y Right, and I'm like okay, so there are maybe two priests Who are the face of that thing.
01:24:32.064 --> 01:24:46.332
There are dozens behind the scenes that aren't the face of it, who don't want to come out and speak, who are just cancelled, and they're not looking to be famous for being cancelled, they're just being supported by this organization.
01:24:46.332 --> 01:24:49.327
And it's I really like.
01:24:49.327 --> 01:25:02.122
I want my priest to be Like to to have an insurance policy that if he says something he knows he won't be left Grilling at the Capitol Grill, like I really do.
01:25:02.122 --> 01:25:03.145
I want to know.
01:25:03.145 --> 01:25:06.412
I want my priest to know, like, dude, you won't be left out in the cold.
01:25:06.412 --> 01:25:08.206
Say what needs to be said.
01:25:09.561 --> 01:25:11.399
Our duty to tithe and to support the church.
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:21.927
It's it's not a duty to give our my 10 percent to the catholic, to the bishop, to the diocese, to cat you know catholic's charity so they can send condoms to Africa.
01:25:21.927 --> 01:25:29.350
It's a duty to the church as a whole and that includes, you know, priests from all over the country that have been in justly cancelled.
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:33.846
Yeah, it's like I, like I, okay.
01:25:33.846 --> 01:25:34.569
So we had um.
01:25:34.569 --> 01:25:40.591
On sunday the collection basket comes around and the second collection was for peter's pence.
01:25:40.591 --> 01:25:43.664
I didn't give a dollar to that.
01:25:43.664 --> 01:25:45.181
I can't.
01:25:45.181 --> 01:25:47.007
I didn't give a dollar.
01:25:47.028 --> 01:25:47.829
Yeah, I would take tomorrow.
01:25:48.440 --> 01:25:50.292
Michael Hitchborn actually gave some great.
01:25:50.292 --> 01:25:52.304
We're gonna talk to him when he comes on on tuesday.
01:25:52.304 --> 01:25:58.206
But there are ways, like very specific ways, that you could make sure your Money goes specifically to your parish.
01:25:58.206 --> 01:26:05.733
You can itemize your checks when you write them And it's like because you do want to support your parish, guys, like it's very important that you support your parish.
01:26:05.733 --> 01:26:08.889
You don't want your parish to be floundering like you.
01:26:08.889 --> 01:26:16.422
You, you want to make sure that you especially even if it's a diocese And it doesn't matter if you have a good priest and a good parish, you want to support that.
01:26:16.422 --> 01:26:25.689
Now It's funny because when that basket comes around, 99 of the people just Instinctively throw something in it and you feel you feel like people give you a look if you don't.
01:26:25.689 --> 01:26:36.840
But I doubled up on my initial giving in the first basket this this week and Had no problem saying I don't, i don't give to peter's pence may I?
01:26:37.801 --> 01:26:44.014
Yeah, sorry, i'm so sorry, anthony go ahead just asking permission and jump and don't say sorry, just go for it.
01:26:44.420 --> 01:26:45.685
Never apologize to me.
01:26:46.680 --> 01:27:02.730
I was thinking about whether or not I should say it and, um, i don't know how public of knowledge that this is and this is Not me speaking, uh, on behalf, again, of the coalition at all and I knew this information, uh, i've known this information for quite some time.
01:27:02.730 --> 01:27:07.270
But here's another problem that I have with the uh Exurge, a domine caused by vegano.
01:27:07.270 --> 01:27:28.210
Uh, it is a known secret that vegano is quietly ordaining men who have not been Given and people haven't been sharing this publicly, but it's quietly known by a lot of different catholic media personalities that vegano ordains men quietly Into the priesthood without training them up properly in the seminary.
01:27:28.210 --> 01:27:34.470
To be doing that, to be doing that, is a really stupid idea.
01:27:34.470 --> 01:27:36.122
It's just stupid.
01:27:36.122 --> 01:27:37.865
And so people are not.
01:27:37.865 --> 01:27:42.314
Lady don't know this and it I don't know why, and maybe there's gonna be a lot of catholic media.
01:27:42.314 --> 01:27:49.167
We're gonna be happy, unhappy with me that I that I share that Live, but we'll just blame anthony.
01:27:49.689 --> 01:27:52.859
You can blame me, i was just gonna say I mean, he comes from church militant, so it's.
01:27:52.859 --> 01:27:56.728
He's not a fan chair.
01:27:56.728 --> 01:27:58.953
You know you're known for blowing things up.
01:28:00.060 --> 01:28:02.104
It's true, but so okay.
01:28:02.104 --> 01:28:10.011
So let's say we have, we have all of these canceled priests Or all of these canceled seminarians does vegano, then say, hey, canceled seminarian.
01:28:10.011 --> 01:28:14.627
Let me, uh, let me just clearly this guy knew this guy's new.
01:28:14.627 --> 01:28:18.740
He's actually apologizing, he's cutting off his Um.
01:28:20.579 --> 01:28:21.042
There you go.
01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:23.525
Did you just kick him out?
01:28:23.525 --> 01:28:24.228
Sure did.
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:27.987
He throws me on my own show.
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:30.765
Okay okay, we'll shut up.
01:28:30.765 --> 01:28:31.447
Go Joe.
01:28:31.768 --> 01:28:34.623
Yeah, no, um, there you go.
01:28:34.623 --> 01:28:36.641
That's scary.
01:28:36.641 --> 01:28:40.569
So let's say there's a canceled seminarian and exergey domini says come on in.
01:28:40.569 --> 01:28:44.703
Does exergey domine Ordain these priests?
01:28:44.703 --> 01:28:53.811
does Rome have any say in the ordination, in the formation of these priests, or do they have no idea as to the reasons behind the liturgy?
01:28:53.811 --> 01:28:57.380
How much do they know about the end times, speaking of eschatology?
01:28:57.380 --> 01:29:03.880
How much do they know about where the, uh, the truths of the church come from when it comes to the deposit of faith?
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:07.270
How well versed are these young men that vegano has been ordaining?
01:29:07.270 --> 01:29:16.722
And I have to say it, if, if a lot of these catholic media companies knew this and they just refused to come out and say it, i don't know on what planet We don't, we aren't sharing that.
01:29:16.722 --> 01:29:23.007
Is it because vegano is just too popular that we can't, that we can't Say anything because, if you know, comes against us.
01:29:23.007 --> 01:29:26.347
Oh, no, or is, or is there maybe some other reason?
01:29:26.347 --> 01:29:31.372
in my opinion, vegano shouldn't be doing it and that's the biggest reason i'm afraid of this exergey domini.
01:29:31.819 --> 01:29:32.864
That's why I didn't say anything wrong?
01:29:33.024 --> 01:29:33.487
Not too.
01:29:33.487 --> 01:29:41.234
I mean Also like like vegano Prior to his whole turning against francis.
01:29:41.234 --> 01:29:48.201
It's not like he was well known for being like traditional or He was.
01:29:48.201 --> 01:29:50.747
He was just another Vatican politician, right.
01:29:50.889 --> 01:29:55.506
So like we can have a Uh uh scales wrong from their eyes moment right.
01:29:55.565 --> 01:30:03.184
No, I'm just saying yeah, but why or why would we necessarily want to trust him with priestly formation?
01:30:03.605 --> 01:30:05.764
Oh yeah, Yeah, this is all a legend.
01:30:05.944 --> 01:30:07.448
By the way, it's all a legend.
01:30:07.448 --> 01:30:09.113
Yeah, I didn't know any of this.
01:30:09.595 --> 01:30:20.891
I had no idea that was going on, so I have a uh, i have a uh, i have a like, a um, like a.
01:30:20.891 --> 01:30:23.417
Two minds about vegano right, like that.
01:30:23.417 --> 01:30:28.390
Like I hated when he got, when he dipped into the Trump stuff, like I wasn't crazy That was so cringe.
01:30:29.032 --> 01:30:33.909
I wasn't crazy about him to call and Trump another catacomb and things like that, which I understand what he was saying.
01:30:33.909 --> 01:30:43.090
he was saying like, like Trump could be a Form of a restrainer of evil that was coming, but I think he should have steered clear of it.
01:30:43.090 --> 01:30:44.012
But he didn't.
01:30:44.012 --> 01:31:03.676
but the the last couple of letters He's written have been phenomenal, and to have an archbishop saying things like that I think is always a good thing, whether no, regardless of how he came to that position, because I think that people can have a same poll moment where All of a sudden the scales fall from their eyes.
01:31:03.676 --> 01:31:20.283
They're like holy cow, i can't believe what I What was beneath the surface the whole time and I never knew At the same time if that's really going on and he's ordaining men that are not really Formed, formed properly, like they should be, getting the proper formation.
01:31:20.423 --> 01:31:28.085
So so that's really inside baseball stuff that I had No idea about well, i also think you know it's the idea of okay, his letters were really good.
01:31:28.085 --> 01:31:29.289
He's calling out the globally.
01:31:29.289 --> 01:31:33.240
Thank God we need a prelate doing that and Vino's got a huge platform.
01:31:33.240 --> 01:31:44.798
But just like you can go too far center off to the left, you can do so to the right as well, and it's very hard to stand that narrow path and you know Ordaining men that aren't ready to rock into the priesthood.
01:31:44.798 --> 01:31:46.302
That's a little too far to the right.
01:31:47.131 --> 01:31:47.592
And it doesn't.
01:31:47.592 --> 01:31:50.541
It doesn't help us like how does that help us.
01:31:54.810 --> 01:32:02.971
Okay, so we, you guys, just trashed Vino, the.
01:32:02.971 --> 01:32:14.369
I Think that anybody that's going to be helping priests in this current climate It's a good thing, it's noble, like I really do think priests are under tremendous pressure right now.
01:32:14.369 --> 01:32:18.481
So I personally like the coalition, so I'll be sticking with those guys.
01:32:18.481 --> 01:32:23.109
But if that's an international thing that Vino's doing, that's what he's doing.
01:32:23.109 --> 01:32:26.439
You know what happens with the, with the ordinations and stuff.
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:27.561
We'll see what comes of that.
01:32:27.561 --> 01:32:31.817
So Let's see Yeah, we see.
01:32:31.817 --> 01:32:33.409
You see, i mean people.
01:32:33.409 --> 01:32:39.814
I see this all the time like there are very two different minds about Vino, right, and some people love them, some people hate him.
01:32:40.435 --> 01:32:43.382
Yeah, and I love our lady saying stop piling on Vino.
01:32:43.382 --> 01:32:48.721
He's done a lot of good he has, but he shouldn't be ordaining men allegedly who aren't ready for the priesthood.
01:32:48.721 --> 01:32:55.903
That's objective, reasonable, easy to say and it's very, very dangerous to be doing that, very, very dangerous to be doing that.
01:32:56.831 --> 01:32:57.673
Yeah, i think that.
01:32:57.673 --> 01:33:02.550
I think that we have to find a way to make a house united, just like you asked for, right?
01:33:02.550 --> 01:33:08.403
So we're gonna we're gonna do the best we can to find common ground with everybody right now.
01:33:08.403 --> 01:33:17.989
Try to give an Empathetic view to where people are landing in their conclusions on what's going on in the church right now.
01:33:17.989 --> 01:33:23.542
I think Vino is an entity unto his own, to be honest with you, like I think he's just there.
01:33:23.542 --> 01:33:26.396
He's an entity on it onto his own, like I.
01:33:26.396 --> 01:33:30.002
It would be cool if he did Maybe work with you guys, but I don't.
01:33:30.002 --> 01:33:37.885
He's just such a a massive force that it's almost like he kind of had to go and do his own thing, you know.
01:33:38.926 --> 01:33:42.337
So I Just wish there were more Schneiders.
01:33:42.337 --> 01:33:44.735
You can't find one.
01:33:44.735 --> 01:33:45.359
You know one?
01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.909
one bad thing to say about our Bishop Schneider.
01:33:48.390 --> 01:33:51.738
I don't understand how he has not been cancelled like how, how is?
01:33:51.738 --> 01:33:53.243
how is he still?
01:33:55.051 --> 01:33:57.519
I think being a victim of communism has definitely helped.
01:33:57.519 --> 01:33:58.662
You know, I think?
01:33:58.662 --> 01:34:00.414
I Don't know.
01:34:00.414 --> 01:34:07.480
He just seems so, I Don't know he's so noticeably holy right.
01:34:07.501 --> 01:34:12.292
Yeah, but I'm saying, why hasn't Francis Taking him out?
01:34:12.292 --> 01:34:15.081
I mean, he speaks, at least speaks his mind.
01:34:15.081 --> 01:34:16.023
He doesn't.
01:34:16.023 --> 01:34:23.564
I Don't know maybe because he's just from this tiny little, he's an auxiliary Bishop.
01:34:23.684 --> 01:34:30.363
You, kazakhstan, it's like the funniest part of the whole conference talks was listening to Eric Sammons trying to pronounce Kazakhstan.
01:34:32.952 --> 01:34:33.474
Was it Eric?
01:34:33.534 --> 01:34:34.217
or was it Kennedy?
01:34:34.217 --> 01:34:35.262
I think it was Eric, it was.
01:34:35.323 --> 01:34:36.670
Eric, he was trying to say Kazakhstan.
01:34:36.670 --> 01:35:05.523
He's a caz, a cousin, i can't even pronounce it, but it really is interesting that, like he's not caught, like they're going after after Strickland Because Strickland's vocal I mean, they're making it like they're going at the Strickland for Whatever they're making it like, but we all know they're doing it because he he speaks up you know, and it's like they're they, just I'm surprised that Schneider has managed to dodge the bullet as long as he has.
01:35:05.523 --> 01:35:08.935
And what's going on with Strickland?
01:35:08.935 --> 01:35:09.518
any updates?
01:35:12.070 --> 01:35:12.412
Wasn't it?
01:35:12.412 --> 01:35:14.037
wasn't it just a slap on the wrist?
01:35:14.037 --> 01:35:21.560
from from what was reported, that all seems to be going well, but it was another slap on the wrist for the good Bishop.
01:35:22.551 --> 01:35:22.733
I.
01:35:22.733 --> 01:35:24.698
If that's correct, i was right.
01:35:24.698 --> 01:35:26.542
I just want everybody to note.
01:35:26.542 --> 01:35:28.734
Everybody said they were gonna take him out.
01:35:28.734 --> 01:35:30.177
I said they're not taking him out.
01:35:30.177 --> 01:35:31.442
It'll be too much of an uproar.
01:35:32.371 --> 01:35:34.036
Yeah, there's a lot of money in the diocese.
01:35:34.036 --> 01:35:36.390
at the end of the day, it's just too much dude, it would.
01:35:36.411 --> 01:35:36.952
Just it's.
01:35:36.952 --> 01:35:42.663
He's not some bishop from Puerto Rico, like he's not just with all the other bishops, don't like him.
01:35:42.663 --> 01:35:43.091
It just.
01:35:43.091 --> 01:35:46.885
You're not gonna get away with canceling Strickland without a fuss.
01:35:46.885 --> 01:35:48.109
That's all I was saying.
01:35:48.109 --> 01:35:50.359
So, all right, we're an hour and 35.
01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:50.962
Joe, you can't.
01:35:50.962 --> 01:35:52.106
I said an hour and a half.
01:35:52.106 --> 01:35:52.789
You're a good guest.
01:35:52.789 --> 01:35:54.453
I'm not doing two hours with you.
01:35:54.453 --> 01:35:55.336
I know you're good.
01:35:55.756 --> 01:35:58.302
There's only a handful of guests that I've ever gotten that.
01:35:58.302 --> 01:36:02.162
It's usually just me and Anthony when that happens.
01:36:02.162 --> 01:36:02.845
Yeah, right.
01:36:03.390 --> 01:36:03.891
So all right.
01:36:03.891 --> 01:36:06.519
So Friday night the guest is to be announced.
01:36:06.519 --> 01:36:07.402
We don't know yet.
01:36:07.402 --> 01:36:10.842
I will, i will pick somebody and we will go from there.
01:36:10.842 --> 01:36:12.770
Joe, you were fun man, we're gonna do this again.
01:36:13.390 --> 01:36:14.193
I appreciate it, guys.
01:36:14.193 --> 01:36:16.858
Thanks for having me Oh yeah he.
01:36:16.917 --> 01:36:17.939
What about his company?
01:36:18.921 --> 01:36:19.523
Oh, thanks.
01:36:19.523 --> 01:36:23.278
Yeah, I Have a company, a MGM moon calm.
01:36:23.278 --> 01:36:24.923
We essentially media consultant.
01:36:24.923 --> 01:36:35.502
So whether it's soup to nuts, so if it's ideation to just kind of refining what Existing programs people have, we've got something for everybody Can you help me, rob, do anything.
01:36:35.502 --> 01:36:37.514
Absolutely.
01:36:37.514 --> 01:36:39.510
But if I helped, it would just make it worse, because you guys.
01:36:41.796 --> 01:36:43.582
What he's saying is he's too expensive for us.
01:36:46.592 --> 01:36:47.840
One day, rob, one day?
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:49.609
Oh, guys, also check our locals out.
01:36:49.609 --> 01:36:50.893
We only have.
01:36:50.893 --> 01:36:55.222
We have to get like another 20 local supporters to be able to do our long shows.
01:36:55.222 --> 01:37:00.255
So right now they limit us to 30 minute Local support shows.
01:37:00.255 --> 01:37:07.649
So if you guys are still around and you're not a local supporter, we need about 20 more people to be able to do full hour long local shows.
01:37:07.930 --> 01:37:09.194
We found that last Friday.
01:37:09.194 --> 01:37:10.337
We're in the middle of a stream.
01:37:10.337 --> 01:37:12.221
It cuts us off because we hit half an hour.
01:37:12.671 --> 01:37:13.432
We hit a half an hour.
01:37:13.432 --> 01:37:14.716
We have to start a new stream.
01:37:14.716 --> 01:37:21.247
We want to be able to do full hour streams for our, for our audience and like the those local streams.
01:37:21.247 --> 01:37:24.644
They're interesting, they're not your regular show, like the first one we did.
01:37:24.644 --> 01:37:27.840
We just we're like oh, there's 12 people in here who wants to come on with us?
01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:35.310
and we invited a bunch of people on with us And whoever was in the stream, i sent them the link and they popped on and I interviewed some of our guests.
01:37:35.310 --> 01:37:40.783
I had Joe Diadotti, who I was so happy to finally meet, because Joe Diadotti is a very special friend of Rob and I.
01:37:40.783 --> 01:37:44.341
We were finally able to get him on and I was able to ask him questions.
01:37:44.341 --> 01:37:49.539
We met Beth Nagel, we met, so so those shows.
01:37:49.859 --> 01:37:51.703
I know Adrian's dying to get on.
01:37:53.470 --> 01:37:54.774
We're gonna, so listen.
01:37:54.774 --> 01:37:56.820
If you guys can, please support our locals.
01:37:56.820 --> 01:38:08.655
We're trying to get it up to 50 so that we could do those hour long shows, and if we actually start making enough money that I don't have to work Saturdays anymore, we will do a Saturday show for our local supporters.
01:38:08.655 --> 01:38:11.462
So, guys, please go support the coalition for cancel priests.
01:38:11.462 --> 01:38:13.172
Check out AMG moon.
01:38:13.172 --> 01:38:16.117
Joe, you are always welcome here.
01:38:16.117 --> 01:38:19.318
This is a fun show, anything else, rob?
01:38:20.408 --> 01:38:24.135
I Have a special song to take us out.
01:38:24.135 --> 01:38:27.038
Take it away, brother.
01:38:27.038 --> 01:38:27.961
Please, rick, roll them.
01:38:28.501 --> 01:38:28.721
Oh.
01:38:31.470 --> 01:38:34.592
And no, this, joe, this is, this is for you, buddy.
01:38:38.275 --> 01:39:10.862
Yeah, don't be afraid, i got a supper.
01:39:10.862 --> 01:39:13.524
Rich man goes to the doctor.
01:39:13.524 --> 01:39:16.989
Gonna find out all the rich foodie eight gonna make them die.
01:39:16.989 --> 01:39:20.117
A gout Wiping kids a crime, suffering the pain.
01:39:20.117 --> 01:39:22.965
Wonder, been that they don't change, gonna die the same.