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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center.
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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 3: I am so deeply offended by these accusations about having any involvement with anyone else's candidacy. Of course I want fewer candidates in the primary. Of course I want fewer candidates in the primary. I'm not out soliciting more competition. In 2022, I was in a field of 48 and I still beat Santa Claus and Sarah Palin. I know we can beat Dan Sullivan because every step of the way, even before I got in this race, my poll numbers were higher than his.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: So Mary Patola got caught running a fake Dan Sullivan up the flagpole, and now she's acting all aggrieved and offended, even though the New York Times brought the receipts, as we.
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Speaker 2: Say these days.
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Speaker 5: Which, again, is not illegal. So would she have been okay if she just owned up to it?
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Speaker 2: Or not. You can't be attached to it.
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Speaker 4: It's so ham-fisted, voter-insulting. We're going to, hey, let's recruit another Dan Sullivan who has nothing to do with politics and shove him onto the ballot just to try to confuse voters.
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Speaker 2: It just, it looks so bad.
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Speaker 5: But I feel like the looking at me and lying about it, no, I didn't have anything to do with it. Yeah, everyone who knows you is quoted in the New York Times saying you did, so.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that reminds me, not to make a big deal of this because we have more fun stuff to get to and interesting stuff, a bunch of ballot measures around the country worth taking a look at. But the New York Times ran a special piece on when did this run?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 5: I want data centers only on college campuses. That's my issue.
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Speaker 4: They ran a piece on Saturday trying to defend themselves to the readers for daring to publish the Peltola story.
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Speaker 2: Because their lefty readers were like.
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Speaker 6: Why are you doing that against a democrat so they had to explain to the readers what a newspaper does and what it is and why did we publish it then because that's when it was ready that's when we found out the facts.
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Speaker 4: And printed them and indeed knowing all that and not printing it would have really been putting a thumb on the scales they had to explain.
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Speaker 5: To the Can you blame people for making the assumption that your business is to help our side win?
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Speaker 2: Oh, powerfully said.
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Speaker 4: So, speaking of loathsome races, and there are so many. I was fortunate to play a little golf yesterday with several friends and acquaintances who range from arch-conservative to right-leaning moderate and all sorts of different flavors.
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Speaker 2: And it was funny.
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Speaker 4: There was such universal agreement on how loathsome a lot of these candidates and races are on both sides of the aisle, how disappointed everybody was in Trump's performance, the stuff we've been talking about.
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Speaker 2: We don't need to rehash that.
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Speaker 4: And indeed, a couple of Ohioans were part of the gathering and were expressing real chagrin at the Ohio governor's race, in which you've got the huckster, the conman Vivek Ramaswamy, I know he's smart.
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Speaker 2: I know he's had some good ideas. He's a con man.
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Speaker 4: Versus the troubled and troubling Amy Acton. One of the allegations against her, not by her psycho, rapist, marrying, non-child-protecting old hag of a mother, but normal.
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Speaker 2: People, is that she's a drunk. She's unstable.
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Speaker 4: She was the health director and quit at the beginning of COVID because she couldn't take the heat. And she's got no record of being successful at anything.
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Speaker 2: Oh, and that she's a drunk. To that end, let's hear clip number 70, Michael. Hello, Toledo!
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice, I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: Mr.
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Speaker 7: Ameswami, it's not going to work. Not going to work.
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Speaker 2: Not going to work.
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Speaker 7: But we have gone to every corner of the state. Not in a big jeep flying over like Ohio's a fly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, in a big jet.
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Speaker 7: He's flying in a jeep.
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Speaker 2: He's flying. So is she? Holy cow. Honey, honey. We need to go.
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Speaker 5: I think we should go home. I think we should go now. Is she known to be actually an alcoholic? Like, is that nailed down or is that just a.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Just because... What is an alcoholic?
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Speaker 5: She.
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of alcoholics and I know people who had childhoods like hers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Man, if you... All of a sudden.
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Speaker 5: Saw your mom on television who you haven't heard from or spoken to in 50 years.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to undermine your career.
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Speaker 5: The word trigger is overused in modern society, but by about 8 billion times.
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Speaker 2: But that, yeah, that would be that would send you.
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Speaker 5: I'm surprised she didn't have to, like, pause her campaign to deal with that.
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Speaker 2: In terms of reliving.
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Speaker 5: Because the one person in your life who was supposed to protect you from evil signed you up for evil and then took their side. I mean, that is about as awful a childhood situation as you can possibly imagine. And then to revisit that in the closing weeks of a close campaign, oh my God, that's brutal. So if she is an alcoholic, it's not hard to imagine that you would end up on stage drunk and.
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Speaker 2: Slurring like that. The fact of her Pretty well documented.
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Speaker 4: I almost said alleged, but he wasn't convicted, the rapist, because he fled the state because he's a rapist. But the fact of all of that does not make her a good candidate for the governor of Ohio.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 4: So, as I've said many times, how has our democracy vomited up these two choices?
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Speaker 2: Right. So often.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I know.
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Speaker 2: It happens a lot. James Tallarico and Ken Paxton? Really? Right. Yeah. Play 70B again, Michael.
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice, I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: I'm honored to be here. Voting is tomorrow, so we're really close. The transition from.
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Speaker 2: Enthusiastic garble. You're missing my words. Sincerity. I'm so proud to be here.
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Speaker 5: Please, I know drunk. And that's drunk. That is a classic drunk move. The quickly going back and forth between. Look, I realize I've mangled this. I'm going to go with sincerity for a minute.
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Speaker 2: Oh, this party is so great. I'm so glad you guys could be here. You're so special. And, you know, Hanson took that clip as the highlight.
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Speaker 4: That stuff about flying around the state in a Jeep.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even follow what was going on there. Let's hear that one again. I mean the dead. Just to be safe. As journalists. We should be sure of the wording. Hello, Toledo. Hello.
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice. I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: Mr. Ameswami, it's not going to work. Not going to work. Ameswami.
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Speaker 7: We have gone to every corner of the state.
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Speaker 2: Not in a.
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Speaker 7: Big jeep flying over like Ohio's a fly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, in a big jet. He's flying in a jeep. He's flying in a jeep.
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Speaker 4: What? Wow.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Somebody's flying. Okay.
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Speaker 5: So she's trying to say, not like you're living in flyover country in Michigan. We drove around and met you people on the ground, not in a big fancy jet like he did, but that's not what she got out.
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Speaker 10: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Uh, uh, what was I gonna say?
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Speaker 5: Oh, if there were many more days left, I think she might be to the, she has to admit she got drunk, explain it the way I explained it, why she was drunk again, maybe get some sympathy and see if that gets her across the line.
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Speaker 2: She might be the position. You gotta commit to going to rehab. Right. That's part of the dance.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 5: And I got time before I'd be sworn in in January, uh, to go to rehab and get my act together.
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Speaker 2: You know, that reminds me of one of my favorite websites, Twitter accounts, YouTube channels, whatever it is, Drunk History. I haven't watched that in years, but that was always worth a chuckle. Loved that.
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Speaker 4: That and bad lip reading, another great one.
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Speaker 2: Wow, what a choice if you go to the polls in that one.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't like what Ramaswamy did with the ads there, and I don't know who or what he actually believes, but.
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Speaker 2: She's hammered, so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll just go play pickleball.
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Speaker 4: You know what we didn't get to? Why don't we take a break and do it when we come back? There are nearly 150 state ballot measures around America, including California's infamous and it appears backfiring wealth tax. They're worth taking a look at. A bunch of different state measures. So we'll do that after a quick break. And a word from David. DraftKings. You know, you can follow election season in a new way. Make predictions on the races you're watching from controlled Congress and governor races to local contests getting attention where you live.
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Speaker 9: Stevie Wonder is trying to evict a woman who has lived rent-free in one of his houses for nearly 40 years.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 9: The woman was able to stay for that long by standing still and being very quiet.
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Speaker 2: That's a blind joke, you think? I don't get it. Oh, he's not sighted.
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Speaker 11: Oh.
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Speaker 2: 40 years? Does that play a role, though? That he doesn't know she's there? No, that's a squatter. I don't know. She'll say, you're right, I should leave. I'm leaving. Stamp, stamp, stamp, stamp. Make foot noises. Close the door.
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Speaker 10: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Hope he thinks you're gone. Take off your shoes. Sock footed back to your room. Just play the TV really quietly. Beautiful. So, out of curiosity, I was just looking at Cal Unicornia's ballot where the show is based. And there are.
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Speaker 4: 14 ballot measures, propositions on the California ballot. 14 in a state where the one-sided, super-majority Democrat, one-party legislature passes hundreds and hundreds of laws every year, all of them enriching their cronies. But nonetheless, 14 ballot measures, including six different tax propositions, including the infamous wealth tax. There's one, should California borrow money for housing and medical research? A couple of different ones, changing election laws, a couple of different ones, health care and environment. And the average voter has no idea on any of these and will vote for terrible, stupid things.
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Speaker 5: We're going to have Steve Hilton on later. He's the Republican running for governor in California. And I know a lot of you hate this when I say things like this, and I'm sure Steve Hilton would say it.
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Speaker 2: He's going to lose.
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Speaker 5: He's going to lose by a lot tomorrow. And what I think is interesting is comparing one-party states. My home state of Kansas is a one-party Republican state. California, where I've been living for 30 years, is a one-party Democratic state. But in Kansas, they apparently reached their limit of how much... Republicans could abuse their own electorate and that this guy, the sitting Republican, doesn't live there, doesn't even pretend to live there, lives in Florida. His wife is a real estate agent in Florida, has her license there. I mean, they don't even try because that's what happens with one-party states.
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Speaker 2: You get to the point, it's like... I'm just in it to, you know, for the for the cool stuff it gets me. I don't care.
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Speaker 5: And we and people put up with that because they vote for the D or the R.
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Speaker 2: Depending on which state it is.
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Speaker 5: But so in Kansas, where they haven't elected a Democrat since the 30s or something like that, they're likely to tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: California, though, not there yet. Not there yet.
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Speaker 5: What does it take to make Californians think, let's try something different?
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Speaker 2: How bad would it have to get?
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Speaker 4: Well, it would have to be a wave election in California to overcome the public employee unions that own the state and turn out all of their members in every single election. That's what's different in Kansas. In South Carolina, where I spend a great deal of my time, it is often listed as among the reddest of states. And Trump decided, this poor, lovely, half-witted woman... Just because her brother was the old guy, she ought to be the new senator. And deep red, South Carolina said, no, she's a half-wit with no experience, and we're not very impressed with her.
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Speaker 2: And she could lose.
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Speaker 4: The difference is the mob, the mobbed-up state of California politics and the unions.
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Speaker 2: Any analysis of California politics that leaves that out, it's just not worth hearing. Do you think Lindsey Graham's sister wants to be a U.S.
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Speaker 9: Senator?
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Speaker 5: I feel like if she was given a truth serum or in a private room, she'd say.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even want to be a senator, Uncle Hank. Well, right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's actually she has said things like I had no idea how hard campaigning is. What was I thinking getting into this? Trump browbeat her into it. She was honored by the idea because she.
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Speaker 2: Really didn't have a sense of the reality of it. Her brother just died. To the point that they asked her that. Exactly.
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Speaker 4: Her beloved brother who raised her died to the point that, what about Taiwan?
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Speaker 2: I don't know much about foreign policy. I mean, come on.
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Speaker 5: She's in a pretty rough emotional place. Her brother who raised her just died. So not the best time to make major life decisions, probably. Anyway, let's move through some of these. ballot measures. Let's see.
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Speaker 4: Election laws. Six states will consider voter ID rules. Everybody thinks you ought to show your ID. There's never any problem with it. The idea that black people can't get an ID is racist and stupid.
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Speaker 2: It's a pretext. It's a cover for fraud. That's what it is.
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Speaker 4: Or getting the dumbest, least motivated voters to the poll. But you got six states considering voter ID rules.
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Speaker 2: Let's see.
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Speaker 4: Transgender questions. Four states have measures on girls' sports, including Washington State.
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Speaker 2: Way to go, Washington.
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Speaker 5: We got to play Il-Sayed's answer on transgender sports from 60 Minutes last night.
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Speaker 2: Let's do that next.
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Speaker 4: Washington's Initiative 638 would prohibit biologically male students from competing with and against female students. Again, if anybody was in a coma for the last six to eight years, they'd be like, wait a minute. I'm sorry, can you say that again? You've got to prohibit boys from playing in girls' sports. But girls' sports are, like, with girls. What are you even talking about, they would say. People will fall for freaking anything. Props, there's a prop in Colorado would do the same. Prop 135 in increasingly blue Colorado would ban transgender surgeries on minors, which is straight out of Joseph Mengele's death camps in Nazi Germany, Arizona, Nebraska, too.
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Speaker 2: Abortion.
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Speaker 4: Virginia is going to go way permissive on abortion, allowing abortion until the third trimester in 27 weeks, and add a constitutional right to reproductive freedom, which a lot of people think would overturn parental notification, for instance.
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Speaker 2: Nevada, Idaho. Reproductive freedom. Yeah, I know. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: Maryland is trying to gerrymander the GOP straight out of the state. They're drawing the zany districts in an 8-0 map, and there's a ballot measure on that. Arizona's Prop 142 would outlaw all DEI programs, including diversity statements. And Wisconsin would bar the state from giving preferential treatment by race, ethnicity, or sex.
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Speaker 2: That's a great idea. There are a couple more. We'll squeeze them in later.
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Speaker 5: And something like a gazillion data center measures. Armstrong and Getty.
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Speaker 2: We've heard this for years.
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Speaker 8: They say there is evidence now that Representative Ilhan Omar, if you're familiar in Minnesota, may have in fact married her brother, which is hurting her a lot in Minnesota. In West Virginia, the approval ratings are off the chart.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That was what?
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Speaker 5: What kind of joke is that? That's Bill Maher. We do have a funny thing for later, though. Have you did you actually listen to the Kid Rock golf story?
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Speaker 2: Yes. It's funny.
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Speaker 5: Kid Rock golfing with Trump on Bill Maher is the story. We'll have to play that later because it's really, really good stuff.
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Speaker 2: I am.
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Speaker 5: So do I have a mild version of shingles? Is that what's going on here when you get the vaccine?
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Speaker 4: Well, your body's mounting an immune response.
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Speaker 2: So no, no. What's your. What you're feeling is your immune.
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Speaker 4: Response as opposed to the disease.
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Speaker 5: You got to get two shots a couple months apart for shingles, if you don't know that.
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Speaker 2: Whatever shingles is, and I haven't got the slightest idea what it is. It's a virus. It sleeps deep within you, waiting to come out.
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Speaker 5: I'll take your word for it. I did zero research on this. No people have gotten it, so it sounded like a good idea. I never get a flu shot because I've never gotten the flu. So I thought, what's the point of getting a flu shot if I never get the flu? You've never gotten the flu.
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Speaker 2: No. I don't care. I don't think so. Go on. Just make your points. I pay little attention to this stuff.
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Speaker 9: But.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know.
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Speaker 5: I decided to do the shingles thing. And the second inoculation they gave me for shingles made me crazy sick yesterday. Like, if I didn't know why I was sick yesterday, I would have gone to the hospital.
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Speaker 2: Like, I'm dying. What is going on here?
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Speaker 5: What is happening here? I feel somewhat better today. But apparently it will take care of me for the rest of my life. Assuming I don't live past 100. I don't love your chances.
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Speaker 2: I don't either. Probably in a motorcycle wreck at age 98.
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Speaker 5: So, El Sayed and Mike Rogers, that's one of the most exciting races in America. They were both featured on 60 Minutes last night and interviewed. Some news being made, but they got to the trans boys and girls sports thing that's so hot across the country, and they ask El-Sayed about that issue, and if you can understand his answer, you're a better person than I.
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Speaker 2: Here's how it went.
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Speaker 12: What happens with transgender kids on sports teams and so on, right? Like, these are places where rights are in conflict, right? What do you think happens there?
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Speaker 10: I don't know that that's actually true. I think we manufacture these social issues, because here's the.
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Speaker 2: Thing about it.
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Speaker 10: Ross, you have an iPhone in your pocket, probably. Or is it an iPhone or a Samsung? You have a phone in your pocket, right?
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Speaker 2: You can get access to everything and.
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Speaker 10: Anything in the whole world, all the world's information in your pocket. The notion somehow that you are going to prevent your child from being exposed to something that you may find disagreeable and that that is going to be because of school is so profoundly outdated. Because, of course, you have all the information and they have all the information. So here's the thing about it. I think it's really important for us to recognize that the free flow of information is actually a beautiful thing.
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Speaker 2: It's really important.
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Speaker 10: And the most important thing you can do is not try to protect a person from seeing a thing. It's about trying to make sure that as you coach your kid through the world, that you are engaging with them and saying, here's what I believe. Here's what you may see in the world. You get to make your choices about who you're going to be in the world. But that's going to require us to do with the fact that the Internet is a real thing.
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Speaker 2: So there you go.
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Speaker 5: If you're ever thinking of getting into politics, that's a little lesson in that you don't even have to come close to answering a question, apparently. I mean, you don't have to come within 100 miles of dealing with.
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Speaker 2: The topic matter at hand. Wait a second. You have a smartphone in your pocket. Is it an iPhone or is it a Samsung? In my six decades on Earth, Jack, one thing I've learned is that when somebody gives you a complete con man dishonest answer, it was probably a mistake.
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Speaker 5: And you can trust them. You know my favorite part of that? Because I hate this when people do this. Salesmen do it, and politicians are basically salesmen. Don't hit me with the question where you're trying to get me involved in your conversation and go along.
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Speaker 2: You would like to own a boat someday, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you like to own a boat someday?
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Speaker 7: No.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm not answering your freaking question. Go on with your point.
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Speaker 5: And Ross Douthat just sat there stone-faced when he hit him with the iPhone or Samsung and looked at him for a second. And Ross Douthat gave him the, I'm not answering this, dude. I'm not buying into your premise.
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Speaker 4: I know you want me to buy into your premise to move your premise along, not doing it.
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Speaker 2: Right, I hate it when people do that to me. God, was that smarmy. Oh, it was so smarmy! I think that, to me, that was El.
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Speaker 5: Sayed's worst moment of coming off as a complete phony con man. It's not important, but that was his worst moment. I thought that was awful.
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Speaker 2: What? You didn't... What the hell are you even talking about? He is so a candidate for dumb people and Jew haters. Oh, my God. That whole fast talking thing. Really confident, fast talking. Confident, man.
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Speaker 5: Salespeople know this. You can learn this throughout life. I've used it myself to some success at various times. If you seem confident and talk fast, it's amazing where that can get you sometimes.
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Speaker 2: Right, right.
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Speaker 4: We've got an expanded version of his answer about, well, it's in the question, I think.
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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play that, Michael, 60B.
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Speaker 10: I don't ever get the question of, does Palestine have the right to exist? I don't ever get the question of, does Israel have a right to do a genocide? I don't ever get the question of, does Israel have the right to our tax dollars?
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Speaker 12: Does Palestine have the right to exist?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Does Israel have the right to exist?
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Speaker 10: Yes, if there is a shared understanding.
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Speaker 2: Wait, you said.
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Speaker 10: Let me just understand. I believe, and this is the problem with this debate, we start from where we sit rather than start from principles.
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Speaker 2: You're a principled guy, okay?
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Speaker 10: I've heard you do this on your podcast.
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Speaker 2: Oh, shut up with that.
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Speaker 10: I believe in equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination for Palestinians and Jewish Israelis alike. If the Palestinian people decide, and the Israeli people decide, that they want two states for two people, and they decide that on equal terms, I'm for it.
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Speaker 5: When Ross started to interrupt him, what he was going to say, I'm sure, was, when I asked about Palestine, you were a yes. When I asked about Israel, you were a yes, if. That's what he was starting to say. And El-Sayed knew he was going to say that. That's why he jumped on and then started off on his, which kind of cell phone do you have, or whatever.
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Speaker 4: And please don't get me started on the many times the quote-unquote Palestinian people have been offered an incredibly generous two-state solution, getting virtually everything they ask for, and their leadership, who are jihadis who want to wipe the Jews off the planet, have refused every single damn time.
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Speaker 5: God, he's got such that used car salesman vibe that oogs me out when he did that again. He did that same technique again with Ross Theron on 60 Minutes. You're an honest guy, aren't you? You're an honest guy. Here on your own podcast. No, no, don't leave me out of this.
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Speaker 2: You're a good guy. We're friends. Oh, I hate that. Yeah. Yeah, he is smarmy. Wow. And a jihadi. Oh, speaking of his.
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Speaker 5: I really think, and I use Chris Christie as an example, but there's probably lots of them.
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Speaker 2: I really think....
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Speaker 5: He benefits from the election. If the election were a month, two weeks ago, he'd have been better off. If the election were a month from now, he'd lose by 10. I just think he wears very poorly on people.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. He and Ramaswamy are cut from similar cloth. Yes, very much.
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Speaker 4: Super fast-talking, smart guy who just talks over you and bullies you and tries to maneuver you around.
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Speaker 2: I loved your example. You'd love to own a boat someday, wouldn't you? Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't you like to own a boat? Ramaswamy is the same way.
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Speaker 5: These two guys, you see them twice in a debate stage or speaking, and you think, wow, that guy is my guy. You see them ten times, I don't even know what you're doing here, and you seem like you're trying to sell me something.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Hey, so I'm sure you've heard, or perhaps you haven't, Haley Stevens, who Abdul Saeed barely beat in the primary and was an uneasy participant in his campaign, has now totally disavowed him and endorsed Mike Rogers, the Republican candidate, and is being just excoriated by Democrats for that. Jack mentioned Liz Cheney earlier today. Came across a brilliant compare and contrast between those two incidents. Liz Cheney, who famously went against Trump, and some of the very people who praised that as being wonderful and principled now have the knives out for poor Haley Stevens.
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Speaker 2: It's quite a comparison. We'll have that for you coming up. Sickening. What are we supposed to talk about here, Michael? They got another point to make. Oh, my God. This message from Incogni is chilling, folks. Chilling.
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Speaker 5: It's a perfect Halloween message. Oh, I need to talk about Halloween at some point. Grandparents, listen up. Your grandkids' home address could be online right now, exposed for any stranger to find.
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Speaker 2: You don't want that.
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Speaker 4: No, and it's easy to figure this out, how it works. Type your name into a people search site, all right? You'll see your home address, your phone number, list of your relatives. Click one name.
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Speaker 2: You could be looking at where your grandkids live, where they sleep at night. It's nasty.
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Speaker 5: Incogni sends requests to remove your personal information. They're doing that for me right now, including your home address from hundreds of data brokers and people search sites automatically.
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Speaker 2: And it keeps sending those notices because those sites love to put your info right back up. You don't have to lift a finger. No forms, no phone calls.
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Speaker 5: I think it's 250 Incogni removal requests that were sent for me just in the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 5: Saw some dang cute kids at my door on Halloween night.
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Speaker 2: Cute as heck. That's nice. I had a little Harry Potter and a princess show up. That was our neighbor's.
00:28:16
Speaker 4: So I read this Wall Street Journal piece about how some neighborhoods are being torn apart by debates over whether decorations are too scary. And it would have been made great, like classic talk radio, stupid arguments, you know, 20 years ago.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: But they showed the pictures of some of these decorations. They are too scary. Oh, like what? For little kids to walk by.
00:28:36
Speaker 4: Just these horrific beasts with fangs and in a position of attack and like these horrifying ghouls and all.
00:28:44
Speaker 2: And they're so big.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we went to a Spirit Halloween on Saturday night, and some of the stuff, it's cool if you're over a certain age, but my kids wanted to get various things over there. I said, no, we're not going to get that for the five-year-old who walks up the sidewalk, just wants a package of Skittles or whatever.
00:29:07
Speaker 2: Disembodied, disemboweled, rather, humans. I mean, way too gory. Yeah, yeah. If there's no whimsy about it, I don't like it. Like a skeleton.
00:29:21
Speaker 5: Nobody thinks, wow, that was once a human being who cared about life and died, and here they are.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Not really. Not really. Look, bones. Look, plastic bones, is what you think. Yeah, exactly. I don't know.
00:29:36
Speaker 5: Did you did you actually go to door to door with your, uh, your little baby all dressed up.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: There, Katie?
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Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, no.
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Speaker 11: We, we, and we, you know what, this is the first year that I've done the, put a bowl out and let them fend for themselves type thing with the kids. It's like his bedtime and the dog barks and yeah. But we did take him out in his little costume and got all.
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Speaker 2: The little old ladies love him.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. How did your slutty tariff outfit go over? Oh, it was a hit. Do you have to explain it to people?
00:30:13
Speaker 5: No, it was pretty self-explanatory. It doesn't matter if the slutty part is clear. Nobody cares about the rest of it. Are you a nurse or are you someone who works at a hospital?
00:30:21
Speaker 2: Nobody asks that. Don't worry about it. I'm just slutty.
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Speaker 5: I live in a college town. It was ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: It's almost funny. It's like, okay.
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Speaker 5: Why do you even have to go through the ruse of I'm a cat because I get these tiny little ears up here.
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Speaker 2: The rest of it is just.
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Speaker 4: I'm reminded, though, of the discussion we had last week about that cartoon woman in the plastic surgeon's office. How big do you want your breast implants? Just big enough that I can be angry at men for looking at them.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 4: And so women have this sexual power. They're discovering it in college. But God forbid if you should give them a second look.
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Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you? I mean, it's just so ridiculous. Yeah, I know. We were in the Halloween store, and I thought, I can't look that way. I can't look that way.
00:31:11
Speaker 6: Good.
00:31:12
Speaker 2: I'll just look at the ceiling. I'll just look straight up in the air that way.
00:31:15
Speaker 5: Nobody will catch me on a video staring or looking like I'm staring, even though I'm not.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: So if Haley Stevens were a Republican, this would be a beautiful profile in courage. As it is, it's a scurrilous and disgusting betrayal. Oh, invited on the shows and treated like a hero. Exactly.
00:31:33
Speaker 5: Sitting there with the panel as a hero. Yeah, we'll explain all that coming up.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: Stay here. Armstrong and.
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Speaker 3: Getty.
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Speaker 5: China owns the oceans now after us owning the oceans for 80 years, according to the Wall Street Journal.
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Speaker 4: That seems like a big story. Maybe we'll get to that later. Yeah, they're sure trying. So what's this bloke's name? James Kirchick, writing in the Free Press, takes us back to two years ago. Democratic Congressman Elisa Slotkin in Michigan was proudly accepting an endorsement from her former Republican colleague Liz Cheney. It is a privilege to be here in Grand Rapids, the home of former President Gerald Ford. She said to a room full of people holding Republicans for Slotkin and country over party placards. Ford was a leader who understood courage in public service and putting your country over your party. We all remember Liz Cheney rejected Trump, hated him, hated January 6th, etc., cost her her seat. But she was hailed by Democrats as being principled.
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Speaker 2: Well, Ms.
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Speaker 4: Slotkin herself has reacted differently to Haley Stevens going against the Islamist Abdul Al-Said and endorsing Mike Rogers. Anyone who makes an election this important about themselves and not Michiganders in our democracy should think hard about whether they are serving the greater good. Slotkin scolded on X, although she was like the mildest person. Senate leader Chuck Schumer, Democratic Senate leader, it was a despicable betrayal. Far left shock jock, Mehdi Hassan.
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Speaker 2: Despicable. She's evil.
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Speaker 4: Jon Favreau, famed former Obama speechwriter. This person stands for absolutely nothing but herself. And all Abdul Saeed had to do to keep her on board was to disavow that horrible advertisement put out by Cenk Uygur about how the Jews were responsible for inflation and Israel was.
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Speaker 2: I like this line.
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Speaker 4: Even noted white nationalist Richard Spencer was embarrassed by this clumsy foray into fascist propaganda, lambasting Uygur for his clownishly anti-Semitic ad. All that was missing was a black screen at the end with the slogan, Die Juden sind unser Unglück, the Jews are our misfortune, a slogan from Germany in the 30s. So Stevens released a statement saying, look, just disavow this and I'll go to the big church thing with you, Al Saeed, where James Clyburn's coming. And he wouldn't do it. He would not disavow that ad.
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Speaker 5: She's a Christian Protestant but engaged to a Jewish fella. Plus, the ad is way out of bounds. And then so then Elsa said, you're not welcome. Invite you. You're not welcome at my campaign stops. And that's when she came out yesterday and said, OK, I'm for Mike Rogers. But politicians are so. Willing to lie. It's just no wonder some people just stay out of the whole thing and don't pay attention.
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Speaker 2: I don't blame you. It's a horrible, grubby business. Oh, it's awful.
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Speaker 4: Stevens mentioned another advertisement that concerned her, one that Al Sayed's campaign has produced, in which he introduces a series of clips featuring conservative media personalities praising him. Among the roster is America's leading anti-Semite, Tucker Carlson, who says that he wouldn't vote.
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Speaker 2: For Mike Rogers at gunpoint.
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Speaker 3: Wow.
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Speaker 4: And then he goes through the list of things that have given Michiganders concern, and there are plenty of them. You remember after an avowedly Hezbollah-inspired terrorist rammed his car into a Jewish day school, he was hoping to kill 120 children and their teachers. That was when El-Sayed said, well, hurt people hurt people.
00:35:23
Speaker 2: Right. Put it on the Jews.
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Speaker 5: He was looking pretty good, El-Sayed, up until this happened yesterday morning. I was wondering how important this is, his former competitor going against him. But Mark Hopper, writing for the Free Press today, thinks it's really big and that it will take a huge tsunami wave to get El-Sayed across the.
00:35:44
Speaker 2: Finish line now.
00:35:46
Speaker 5: Right.
00:35:47
Speaker 2: So I don't know if.
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Speaker 5: If I was voting for somebody who lost, do I switch parties if she switches parties?
00:35:54
Speaker 9: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: And of course, finally, anybody who brings up any of these things, Al-Said calls them an Islamophobe, which to review is a word created by fascists. And used by cowards to manipulate morons. Final note of James Peace. What's shocking isn't Haley Stevens' decision to wash her hands of El-Said and his rancid campaign, but that so few other Democrats have had the moral courage to emulate her. Country over party apparently only goes one way. For those calling Stevens a despicable traitor, I have four words for you. Hurt people hurt people.
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Speaker 3: I am so deeply offended by these accusations about having any involvement with anyone else's candidacy. Of course I want fewer candidates in the primary. Of course I want fewer candidates in the primary. I'm not out soliciting more competition. In 2022, I was in a field of 48 and I still beat Santa Claus and Sarah Palin. I know we can beat Dan Sullivan because every step of the way, even before I got in this race, my poll numbers were higher than his.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: So Mary Patola got caught running a fake Dan Sullivan up the flagpole, and now she's acting all aggrieved and offended, even though the New York Times brought the receipts, as we.
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Speaker 2: Say these days.
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Speaker 5: Which, again, is not illegal. So would she have been okay if she just owned up to it?
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Speaker 2: Or not. You can't be attached to it.
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Speaker 4: It's so ham-fisted, voter-insulting. We're going to, hey, let's recruit another Dan Sullivan who has nothing to do with politics and shove him onto the ballot just to try to confuse voters.
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Speaker 2: It just, it looks so bad.
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Speaker 5: But I feel like the looking at me and lying about it, no, I didn't have anything to do with it. Yeah, everyone who knows you is quoted in the New York Times saying you did, so.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that reminds me, not to make a big deal of this because we have more fun stuff to get to and interesting stuff, a bunch of ballot measures around the country worth taking a look at. But the New York Times ran a special piece on when did this run?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 5: I want data centers only on college campuses. That's my issue.
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Speaker 4: They ran a piece on Saturday trying to defend themselves to the readers for daring to publish the Peltola story.
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Speaker 2: Because their lefty readers were like.
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Speaker 6: Why are you doing that against a democrat so they had to explain to the readers what a newspaper does and what it is and why did we publish it then because that's when it was ready that's when we found out the facts.
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Speaker 4: And printed them and indeed knowing all that and not printing it would have really been putting a thumb on the scales they had to explain.
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Speaker 5: To the Can you blame people for making the assumption that your business is to help our side win?
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Speaker 2: Oh, powerfully said.
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Speaker 4: So, speaking of loathsome races, and there are so many. I was fortunate to play a little golf yesterday with several friends and acquaintances who range from arch-conservative to right-leaning moderate and all sorts of different flavors.
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Speaker 2: And it was funny.
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Speaker 4: There was such universal agreement on how loathsome a lot of these candidates and races are on both sides of the aisle, how disappointed everybody was in Trump's performance, the stuff we've been talking about.
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Speaker 2: We don't need to rehash that.
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Speaker 4: And indeed, a couple of Ohioans were part of the gathering and were expressing real chagrin at the Ohio governor's race, in which you've got the huckster, the conman Vivek Ramaswamy, I know he's smart.
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Speaker 2: I know he's had some good ideas. He's a con man.
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Speaker 4: Versus the troubled and troubling Amy Acton. One of the allegations against her, not by her psycho, rapist, marrying, non-child-protecting old hag of a mother, but normal.
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Speaker 2: People, is that she's a drunk. She's unstable.
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Speaker 4: She was the health director and quit at the beginning of COVID because she couldn't take the heat. And she's got no record of being successful at anything.
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Speaker 2: Oh, and that she's a drunk. To that end, let's hear clip number 70, Michael. Hello, Toledo!
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice, I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: Mr.
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Speaker 7: Ameswami, it's not going to work. Not going to work.
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Speaker 2: Not going to work.
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Speaker 7: But we have gone to every corner of the state. Not in a big jeep flying over like Ohio's a fly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, in a big jet.
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Speaker 7: He's flying in a jeep.
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Speaker 2: He's flying. So is she? Holy cow. Honey, honey. We need to go.
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Speaker 5: I think we should go home. I think we should go now. Is she known to be actually an alcoholic? Like, is that nailed down or is that just a.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Just because... What is an alcoholic?
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Speaker 5: She.
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Speaker 5: I know a lot of alcoholics and I know people who had childhoods like hers.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Man, if you... All of a sudden.
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Speaker 5: Saw your mom on television who you haven't heard from or spoken to in 50 years.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to undermine your career.
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Speaker 5: The word trigger is overused in modern society, but by about 8 billion times.
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Speaker 2: But that, yeah, that would be that would send you.
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Speaker 5: I'm surprised she didn't have to, like, pause her campaign to deal with that.
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Speaker 2: In terms of reliving.
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Speaker 5: Because the one person in your life who was supposed to protect you from evil signed you up for evil and then took their side. I mean, that is about as awful a childhood situation as you can possibly imagine. And then to revisit that in the closing weeks of a close campaign, oh my God, that's brutal. So if she is an alcoholic, it's not hard to imagine that you would end up on stage drunk and.
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Speaker 2: Slurring like that. The fact of her Pretty well documented.
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Speaker 4: I almost said alleged, but he wasn't convicted, the rapist, because he fled the state because he's a rapist. But the fact of all of that does not make her a good candidate for the governor of Ohio.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 4: So, as I've said many times, how has our democracy vomited up these two choices?
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Speaker 2: Right. So often.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I know.
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Speaker 2: It happens a lot. James Tallarico and Ken Paxton? Really? Right. Yeah. Play 70B again, Michael.
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice, I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: I'm honored to be here. Voting is tomorrow, so we're really close. The transition from.
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Speaker 2: Enthusiastic garble. You're missing my words. Sincerity. I'm so proud to be here.
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Speaker 5: Please, I know drunk. And that's drunk. That is a classic drunk move. The quickly going back and forth between. Look, I realize I've mangled this. I'm going to go with sincerity for a minute.
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Speaker 2: Oh, this party is so great. I'm so glad you guys could be here. You're so special. And, you know, Hanson took that clip as the highlight.
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Speaker 4: That stuff about flying around the state in a Jeep.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even follow what was going on there. Let's hear that one again. I mean the dead. Just to be safe. As journalists. We should be sure of the wording. Hello, Toledo. Hello.
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Speaker 7: It's about truth and justice. I just wrote on the words back here.
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Speaker 2: Mr. Ameswami, it's not going to work. Not going to work. Ameswami.
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Speaker 7: We have gone to every corner of the state.
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Speaker 2: Not in a.
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Speaker 7: Big jeep flying over like Ohio's a fly.
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Speaker 2: I mean, in a big jet. He's flying in a jeep. He's flying in a jeep.
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Speaker 4: What? Wow.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Somebody's flying. Okay.
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Speaker 5: So she's trying to say, not like you're living in flyover country in Michigan. We drove around and met you people on the ground, not in a big fancy jet like he did, but that's not what she got out.
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Speaker 10: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Uh, uh, what was I gonna say?
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Speaker 5: Oh, if there were many more days left, I think she might be to the, she has to admit she got drunk, explain it the way I explained it, why she was drunk again, maybe get some sympathy and see if that gets her across the line.
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Speaker 2: She might be the position. You gotta commit to going to rehab. Right. That's part of the dance.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 5: And I got time before I'd be sworn in in January, uh, to go to rehab and get my act together.
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Speaker 2: You know, that reminds me of one of my favorite websites, Twitter accounts, YouTube channels, whatever it is, Drunk History. I haven't watched that in years, but that was always worth a chuckle. Loved that.
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Speaker 4: That and bad lip reading, another great one.
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Speaker 2: Wow, what a choice if you go to the polls in that one.
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't like what Ramaswamy did with the ads there, and I don't know who or what he actually believes, but.
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Speaker 2: She's hammered, so.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll just go play pickleball.
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Speaker 4: You know what we didn't get to? Why don't we take a break and do it when we come back? There are nearly 150 state ballot measures around America, including California's infamous and it appears backfiring wealth tax. They're worth taking a look at. A bunch of different state measures. So we'll do that after a quick break. And a word from David. DraftKings. You know, you can follow election season in a new way. Make predictions on the races you're watching from controlled Congress and governor races to local contests getting attention where you live.
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Speaker 9: Stevie Wonder is trying to evict a woman who has lived rent-free in one of his houses for nearly 40 years.
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 9: The woman was able to stay for that long by standing still and being very quiet.
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Speaker 2: That's a blind joke, you think? I don't get it. Oh, he's not sighted.
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Speaker 11: Oh.
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Speaker 2: 40 years? Does that play a role, though? That he doesn't know she's there? No, that's a squatter. I don't know. She'll say, you're right, I should leave. I'm leaving. Stamp, stamp, stamp, stamp. Make foot noises. Close the door.
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Speaker 10: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Hope he thinks you're gone. Take off your shoes. Sock footed back to your room. Just play the TV really quietly. Beautiful. So, out of curiosity, I was just looking at Cal Unicornia's ballot where the show is based. And there are.
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Speaker 4: 14 ballot measures, propositions on the California ballot. 14 in a state where the one-sided, super-majority Democrat, one-party legislature passes hundreds and hundreds of laws every year, all of them enriching their cronies. But nonetheless, 14 ballot measures, including six different tax propositions, including the infamous wealth tax. There's one, should California borrow money for housing and medical research? A couple of different ones, changing election laws, a couple of different ones, health care and environment. And the average voter has no idea on any of these and will vote for terrible, stupid things.
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Speaker 5: We're going to have Steve Hilton on later. He's the Republican running for governor in California. And I know a lot of you hate this when I say things like this, and I'm sure Steve Hilton would say it.
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Speaker 2: He's going to lose.
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Speaker 5: He's going to lose by a lot tomorrow. And what I think is interesting is comparing one-party states. My home state of Kansas is a one-party Republican state. California, where I've been living for 30 years, is a one-party Democratic state. But in Kansas, they apparently reached their limit of how much... Republicans could abuse their own electorate and that this guy, the sitting Republican, doesn't live there, doesn't even pretend to live there, lives in Florida. His wife is a real estate agent in Florida, has her license there. I mean, they don't even try because that's what happens with one-party states.
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Speaker 2: You get to the point, it's like... I'm just in it to, you know, for the for the cool stuff it gets me. I don't care.
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Speaker 5: And we and people put up with that because they vote for the D or the R.
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Speaker 2: Depending on which state it is.
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Speaker 5: But so in Kansas, where they haven't elected a Democrat since the 30s or something like that, they're likely to tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: California, though, not there yet. Not there yet.
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Speaker 5: What does it take to make Californians think, let's try something different?
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Speaker 2: How bad would it have to get?
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Speaker 4: Well, it would have to be a wave election in California to overcome the public employee unions that own the state and turn out all of their members in every single election. That's what's different in Kansas. In South Carolina, where I spend a great deal of my time, it is often listed as among the reddest of states. And Trump decided, this poor, lovely, half-witted woman... Just because her brother was the old guy, she ought to be the new senator. And deep red, South Carolina said, no, she's a half-wit with no experience, and we're not very impressed with her.
00:14:33
Speaker 2: And she could lose.
00:14:34
Speaker 4: The difference is the mob, the mobbed-up state of California politics and the unions.
00:14:41
Speaker 2: Any analysis of California politics that leaves that out, it's just not worth hearing. Do you think Lindsey Graham's sister wants to be a U.S.
00:14:47
Speaker 9: Senator?
00:14:48
Speaker 5: I feel like if she was given a truth serum or in a private room, she'd say.
00:14:53
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to be a senator, Uncle Hank. Well, right.
00:14:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's actually she has said things like I had no idea how hard campaigning is. What was I thinking getting into this? Trump browbeat her into it. She was honored by the idea because she.
00:15:07
Speaker 2: Really didn't have a sense of the reality of it. Her brother just died. To the point that they asked her that. Exactly.
00:15:11
Speaker 4: Her beloved brother who raised her died to the point that, what about Taiwan?
00:15:17
Speaker 2: I don't know much about foreign policy. I mean, come on.
00:15:20
Speaker 5: She's in a pretty rough emotional place. Her brother who raised her just died. So not the best time to make major life decisions, probably. Anyway, let's move through some of these. ballot measures. Let's see.
00:15:33
Speaker 4: Election laws. Six states will consider voter ID rules. Everybody thinks you ought to show your ID. There's never any problem with it. The idea that black people can't get an ID is racist and stupid.
00:15:44
Speaker 2: It's a pretext. It's a cover for fraud. That's what it is.
00:15:49
Speaker 4: Or getting the dumbest, least motivated voters to the poll. But you got six states considering voter ID rules.
00:15:57
Speaker 2: Let's see.
00:15:57
Speaker 4: Transgender questions. Four states have measures on girls' sports, including Washington State.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: Way to go, Washington.
00:16:04
Speaker 5: We got to play Il-Sayed's answer on transgender sports from 60 Minutes last night.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: Let's do that next.
00:16:12
Speaker 4: Washington's Initiative 638 would prohibit biologically male students from competing with and against female students. Again, if anybody was in a coma for the last six to eight years, they'd be like, wait a minute. I'm sorry, can you say that again? You've got to prohibit boys from playing in girls' sports. But girls' sports are, like, with girls. What are you even talking about, they would say. People will fall for freaking anything. Props, there's a prop in Colorado would do the same. Prop 135 in increasingly blue Colorado would ban transgender surgeries on minors, which is straight out of Joseph Mengele's death camps in Nazi Germany, Arizona, Nebraska, too.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: Abortion.
00:16:54
Speaker 4: Virginia is going to go way permissive on abortion, allowing abortion until the third trimester in 27 weeks, and add a constitutional right to reproductive freedom, which a lot of people think would overturn parental notification, for instance.
00:17:11
Speaker 2: Nevada, Idaho. Reproductive freedom. Yeah, I know. It's ridiculous.
00:17:17
Speaker 4: Maryland is trying to gerrymander the GOP straight out of the state. They're drawing the zany districts in an 8-0 map, and there's a ballot measure on that. Arizona's Prop 142 would outlaw all DEI programs, including diversity statements. And Wisconsin would bar the state from giving preferential treatment by race, ethnicity, or sex.
00:17:42
Speaker 2: That's a great idea. There are a couple more. We'll squeeze them in later.
00:17:46
Speaker 5: And something like a gazillion data center measures. Armstrong and Getty.
00:17:52
Speaker 2: We've heard this for years.
00:17:53
Speaker 8: They say there is evidence now that Representative Ilhan Omar, if you're familiar in Minnesota, may have in fact married her brother, which is hurting her a lot in Minnesota. In West Virginia, the approval ratings are off the chart.
00:18:11
Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That was what?
00:18:15
Speaker 5: What kind of joke is that? That's Bill Maher. We do have a funny thing for later, though. Have you did you actually listen to the Kid Rock golf story?
00:18:22
Speaker 2: Yes. It's funny.
00:18:24
Speaker 5: Kid Rock golfing with Trump on Bill Maher is the story. We'll have to play that later because it's really, really good stuff.
00:18:30
Speaker 2: I am.
00:18:31
Speaker 5: So do I have a mild version of shingles? Is that what's going on here when you get the vaccine?
00:18:36
Speaker 4: Well, your body's mounting an immune response.
00:18:40
Speaker 2: So no, no. What's your. What you're feeling is your immune.
00:18:45
Speaker 4: Response as opposed to the disease.
00:18:47
Speaker 5: You got to get two shots a couple months apart for shingles, if you don't know that.
00:18:51
Speaker 2: Whatever shingles is, and I haven't got the slightest idea what it is. It's a virus. It sleeps deep within you, waiting to come out.
00:18:58
Speaker 5: I'll take your word for it. I did zero research on this. No people have gotten it, so it sounded like a good idea. I never get a flu shot because I've never gotten the flu. So I thought, what's the point of getting a flu shot if I never get the flu? You've never gotten the flu.
00:19:13
Speaker 2: No. I don't care. I don't think so. Go on. Just make your points. I pay little attention to this stuff.
00:19:18
Speaker 9: But.
00:19:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know.
00:19:21
Speaker 5: I decided to do the shingles thing. And the second inoculation they gave me for shingles made me crazy sick yesterday. Like, if I didn't know why I was sick yesterday, I would have gone to the hospital.
00:19:30
Speaker 2: Like, I'm dying. What is going on here?
00:19:32
Speaker 5: What is happening here? I feel somewhat better today. But apparently it will take care of me for the rest of my life. Assuming I don't live past 100. I don't love your chances.
00:19:44
Speaker 2: I don't either. Probably in a motorcycle wreck at age 98.
00:19:48
Speaker 5: So, El Sayed and Mike Rogers, that's one of the most exciting races in America. They were both featured on 60 Minutes last night and interviewed. Some news being made, but they got to the trans boys and girls sports thing that's so hot across the country, and they ask El-Sayed about that issue, and if you can understand his answer, you're a better person than I.
00:20:13
Speaker 2: Here's how it went.
00:20:14
Speaker 12: What happens with transgender kids on sports teams and so on, right? Like, these are places where rights are in conflict, right? What do you think happens there?
00:20:23
Speaker 10: I don't know that that's actually true. I think we manufacture these social issues, because here's the.
00:20:27
Speaker 2: Thing about it.
00:20:28
Speaker 10: Ross, you have an iPhone in your pocket, probably. Or is it an iPhone or a Samsung? You have a phone in your pocket, right?
00:20:32
Speaker 2: You can get access to everything and.
00:20:34
Speaker 10: Anything in the whole world, all the world's information in your pocket. The notion somehow that you are going to prevent your child from being exposed to something that you may find disagreeable and that that is going to be because of school is so profoundly outdated. Because, of course, you have all the information and they have all the information. So here's the thing about it. I think it's really important for us to recognize that the free flow of information is actually a beautiful thing.
00:21:01
Speaker 2: It's really important.
00:21:02
Speaker 10: And the most important thing you can do is not try to protect a person from seeing a thing. It's about trying to make sure that as you coach your kid through the world, that you are engaging with them and saying, here's what I believe. Here's what you may see in the world. You get to make your choices about who you're going to be in the world. But that's going to require us to do with the fact that the Internet is a real thing.
00:21:23
Speaker 2: So there you go.
00:21:24
Speaker 5: If you're ever thinking of getting into politics, that's a little lesson in that you don't even have to come close to answering a question, apparently. I mean, you don't have to come within 100 miles of dealing with.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: The topic matter at hand. Wait a second. You have a smartphone in your pocket. Is it an iPhone or is it a Samsung? In my six decades on Earth, Jack, one thing I've learned is that when somebody gives you a complete con man dishonest answer, it was probably a mistake.
00:21:53
Speaker 5: And you can trust them. You know my favorite part of that? Because I hate this when people do this. Salesmen do it, and politicians are basically salesmen. Don't hit me with the question where you're trying to get me involved in your conversation and go along.
00:22:08
Speaker 2: You would like to own a boat someday, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you like to own a boat someday?
00:22:11
Speaker 7: No.
00:22:11
Speaker 2: No, I'm not answering your freaking question. Go on with your point.
00:22:14
Speaker 5: And Ross Douthat just sat there stone-faced when he hit him with the iPhone or Samsung and looked at him for a second. And Ross Douthat gave him the, I'm not answering this, dude. I'm not buying into your premise.
00:22:25
Speaker 4: I know you want me to buy into your premise to move your premise along, not doing it.
00:22:29
Speaker 2: Right, I hate it when people do that to me. God, was that smarmy. Oh, it was so smarmy! I think that, to me, that was El.
00:22:39
Speaker 5: Sayed's worst moment of coming off as a complete phony con man. It's not important, but that was his worst moment. I thought that was awful.
00:22:50
Speaker 2: What? You didn't... What the hell are you even talking about? He is so a candidate for dumb people and Jew haters. Oh, my God. That whole fast talking thing. Really confident, fast talking. Confident, man.
00:23:03
Speaker 5: Salespeople know this. You can learn this throughout life. I've used it myself to some success at various times. If you seem confident and talk fast, it's amazing where that can get you sometimes.
00:23:15
Speaker 2: Right, right.
00:23:16
Speaker 4: We've got an expanded version of his answer about, well, it's in the question, I think.
00:23:24
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and play that, Michael, 60B.
00:23:27
Speaker 10: I don't ever get the question of, does Palestine have the right to exist? I don't ever get the question of, does Israel have a right to do a genocide? I don't ever get the question of, does Israel have the right to our tax dollars?
00:23:35
Speaker 12: Does Palestine have the right to exist?
00:23:37
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:23:38
Speaker 2: Does Israel have the right to exist?
00:23:40
Speaker 10: Yes, if there is a shared understanding.
00:23:44
Speaker 2: Wait, you said.
00:23:44
Speaker 10: Let me just understand. I believe, and this is the problem with this debate, we start from where we sit rather than start from principles.
00:23:51
Speaker 2: You're a principled guy, okay?
00:23:53
Speaker 10: I've heard you do this on your podcast.
00:23:54
Speaker 2: Oh, shut up with that.
00:23:55
Speaker 10: I believe in equal rights to peace, dignity, and self-determination for Palestinians and Jewish Israelis alike. If the Palestinian people decide, and the Israeli people decide, that they want two states for two people, and they decide that on equal terms, I'm for it.
00:24:09
Speaker 5: When Ross started to interrupt him, what he was going to say, I'm sure, was, when I asked about Palestine, you were a yes. When I asked about Israel, you were a yes, if. That's what he was starting to say. And El-Sayed knew he was going to say that. That's why he jumped on and then started off on his, which kind of cell phone do you have, or whatever.
00:24:28
Speaker 4: And please don't get me started on the many times the quote-unquote Palestinian people have been offered an incredibly generous two-state solution, getting virtually everything they ask for, and their leadership, who are jihadis who want to wipe the Jews off the planet, have refused every single damn time.
00:24:49
Speaker 5: God, he's got such that used car salesman vibe that oogs me out when he did that again. He did that same technique again with Ross Theron on 60 Minutes. You're an honest guy, aren't you? You're an honest guy. Here on your own podcast. No, no, don't leave me out of this.
00:25:03
Speaker 2: You're a good guy. We're friends. Oh, I hate that. Yeah. Yeah, he is smarmy. Wow. And a jihadi. Oh, speaking of his.
00:25:13
Speaker 5: I really think, and I use Chris Christie as an example, but there's probably lots of them.
00:25:17
Speaker 2: I really think....
00:25:20
Speaker 5: He benefits from the election. If the election were a month, two weeks ago, he'd have been better off. If the election were a month from now, he'd lose by 10. I just think he wears very poorly on people.
00:25:34
Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. He and Ramaswamy are cut from similar cloth. Yes, very much.
00:25:41
Speaker 4: Super fast-talking, smart guy who just talks over you and bullies you and tries to maneuver you around.
00:25:46
Speaker 2: I loved your example. You'd love to own a boat someday, wouldn't you? Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't you like to own a boat? Ramaswamy is the same way.
00:25:55
Speaker 5: These two guys, you see them twice in a debate stage or speaking, and you think, wow, that guy is my guy. You see them ten times, I don't even know what you're doing here, and you seem like you're trying to sell me something.
00:26:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:26:08
Speaker 4: Hey, so I'm sure you've heard, or perhaps you haven't, Haley Stevens, who Abdul Saeed barely beat in the primary and was an uneasy participant in his campaign, has now totally disavowed him and endorsed Mike Rogers, the Republican candidate, and is being just excoriated by Democrats for that. Jack mentioned Liz Cheney earlier today. Came across a brilliant compare and contrast between those two incidents. Liz Cheney, who famously went against Trump, and some of the very people who praised that as being wonderful and principled now have the knives out for poor Haley Stevens.
00:26:48
Speaker 2: It's quite a comparison. We'll have that for you coming up. Sickening. What are we supposed to talk about here, Michael? They got another point to make. Oh, my God. This message from Incogni is chilling, folks. Chilling.
00:27:00
Speaker 5: It's a perfect Halloween message. Oh, I need to talk about Halloween at some point. Grandparents, listen up. Your grandkids' home address could be online right now, exposed for any stranger to find.
00:27:09
Speaker 2: You don't want that.
00:27:11
Speaker 4: No, and it's easy to figure this out, how it works. Type your name into a people search site, all right? You'll see your home address, your phone number, list of your relatives. Click one name.
00:27:18
Speaker 2: You could be looking at where your grandkids live, where they sleep at night. It's nasty.
00:27:24
Speaker 5: Incogni sends requests to remove your personal information. They're doing that for me right now, including your home address from hundreds of data brokers and people search sites automatically.
00:27:32
Speaker 2: And it keeps sending those notices because those sites love to put your info right back up. You don't have to lift a finger. No forms, no phone calls.
00:27:41
Speaker 5: I think it's 250 Incogni removal requests that were sent for me just in the last couple of weeks.
00:27:47
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00:27:51
Speaker 7: Yep.
00:27:51
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00:27:58
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:27:59
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00:28:05
Speaker 5: Saw some dang cute kids at my door on Halloween night.
00:28:09
Speaker 2: Cute as heck. That's nice. I had a little Harry Potter and a princess show up. That was our neighbor's.
00:28:16
Speaker 4: So I read this Wall Street Journal piece about how some neighborhoods are being torn apart by debates over whether decorations are too scary. And it would have been made great, like classic talk radio, stupid arguments, you know, 20 years ago.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: But they showed the pictures of some of these decorations. They are too scary. Oh, like what? For little kids to walk by.
00:28:36
Speaker 4: Just these horrific beasts with fangs and in a position of attack and like these horrifying ghouls and all.
00:28:44
Speaker 2: And they're so big.
00:28:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, we went to a Spirit Halloween on Saturday night, and some of the stuff, it's cool if you're over a certain age, but my kids wanted to get various things over there. I said, no, we're not going to get that for the five-year-old who walks up the sidewalk, just wants a package of Skittles or whatever.
00:29:07
Speaker 2: Disembodied, disemboweled, rather, humans. I mean, way too gory. Yeah, yeah. If there's no whimsy about it, I don't like it. Like a skeleton.
00:29:21
Speaker 5: Nobody thinks, wow, that was once a human being who cared about life and died, and here they are.
00:29:27
Speaker 2: Not really. Not really. Look, bones. Look, plastic bones, is what you think. Yeah, exactly. I don't know.
00:29:36
Speaker 5: Did you did you actually go to door to door with your, uh, your little baby all dressed up.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: There, Katie?
00:29:42
Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, no.
00:29:44
Speaker 11: We, we, and we, you know what, this is the first year that I've done the, put a bowl out and let them fend for themselves type thing with the kids. It's like his bedtime and the dog barks and yeah. But we did take him out in his little costume and got all.
00:30:00
Speaker 2: The little old ladies love him.
00:30:04
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
00:30:05
Speaker 2: Yeah. How did your slutty tariff outfit go over? Oh, it was a hit. Do you have to explain it to people?
00:30:13
Speaker 5: No, it was pretty self-explanatory. It doesn't matter if the slutty part is clear. Nobody cares about the rest of it. Are you a nurse or are you someone who works at a hospital?
00:30:21
Speaker 2: Nobody asks that. Don't worry about it. I'm just slutty.
00:30:25
Speaker 5: I live in a college town. It was ridiculous.
00:30:30
Speaker 2: It's almost funny. It's like, okay.
00:30:34
Speaker 5: Why do you even have to go through the ruse of I'm a cat because I get these tiny little ears up here.
00:30:38
Speaker 2: The rest of it is just.
00:30:40
Speaker 4: I'm reminded, though, of the discussion we had last week about that cartoon woman in the plastic surgeon's office. How big do you want your breast implants? Just big enough that I can be angry at men for looking at them.
00:30:55
Speaker 10: Right.
00:30:56
Speaker 4: And so women have this sexual power. They're discovering it in college. But God forbid if you should give them a second look.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare you? I mean, it's just so ridiculous. Yeah, I know. We were in the Halloween store, and I thought, I can't look that way. I can't look that way.
00:31:11
Speaker 6: Good.
00:31:12
Speaker 2: I'll just look at the ceiling. I'll just look straight up in the air that way.
00:31:15
Speaker 5: Nobody will catch me on a video staring or looking like I'm staring, even though I'm not.
00:31:21
Speaker 4: So if Haley Stevens were a Republican, this would be a beautiful profile in courage. As it is, it's a scurrilous and disgusting betrayal. Oh, invited on the shows and treated like a hero. Exactly.
00:31:33
Speaker 5: Sitting there with the panel as a hero. Yeah, we'll explain all that coming up.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: Stay here. Armstrong and.
00:31:42
Speaker 3: Getty.
00:31:42
Speaker 5: China owns the oceans now after us owning the oceans for 80 years, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:31:47
Speaker 4: That seems like a big story. Maybe we'll get to that later. Yeah, they're sure trying. So what's this bloke's name? James Kirchick, writing in the Free Press, takes us back to two years ago. Democratic Congressman Elisa Slotkin in Michigan was proudly accepting an endorsement from her former Republican colleague Liz Cheney. It is a privilege to be here in Grand Rapids, the home of former President Gerald Ford. She said to a room full of people holding Republicans for Slotkin and country over party placards. Ford was a leader who understood courage in public service and putting your country over your party. We all remember Liz Cheney rejected Trump, hated him, hated January 6th, etc., cost her her seat. But she was hailed by Democrats as being principled.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: Well, Ms.
00:32:36
Speaker 4: Slotkin herself has reacted differently to Haley Stevens going against the Islamist Abdul Al-Said and endorsing Mike Rogers. Anyone who makes an election this important about themselves and not Michiganders in our democracy should think hard about whether they are serving the greater good. Slotkin scolded on X, although she was like the mildest person. Senate leader Chuck Schumer, Democratic Senate leader, it was a despicable betrayal. Far left shock jock, Mehdi Hassan.
00:33:10
Speaker 2: Despicable. She's evil.
00:33:13
Speaker 4: Jon Favreau, famed former Obama speechwriter. This person stands for absolutely nothing but herself. And all Abdul Saeed had to do to keep her on board was to disavow that horrible advertisement put out by Cenk Uygur about how the Jews were responsible for inflation and Israel was.
00:33:37
Speaker 2: I like this line.
00:33:38
Speaker 4: Even noted white nationalist Richard Spencer was embarrassed by this clumsy foray into fascist propaganda, lambasting Uygur for his clownishly anti-Semitic ad. All that was missing was a black screen at the end with the slogan, Die Juden sind unser Unglück, the Jews are our misfortune, a slogan from Germany in the 30s. So Stevens released a statement saying, look, just disavow this and I'll go to the big church thing with you, Al Saeed, where James Clyburn's coming. And he wouldn't do it. He would not disavow that ad.
00:34:12
Speaker 5: She's a Christian Protestant but engaged to a Jewish fella. Plus, the ad is way out of bounds. And then so then Elsa said, you're not welcome. Invite you. You're not welcome at my campaign stops. And that's when she came out yesterday and said, OK, I'm for Mike Rogers. But politicians are so. Willing to lie. It's just no wonder some people just stay out of the whole thing and don't pay attention.
00:34:40
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. It's a horrible, grubby business. Oh, it's awful.
00:34:44
Speaker 4: Stevens mentioned another advertisement that concerned her, one that Al Sayed's campaign has produced, in which he introduces a series of clips featuring conservative media personalities praising him. Among the roster is America's leading anti-Semite, Tucker Carlson, who says that he wouldn't vote.
00:34:59
Speaker 2: For Mike Rogers at gunpoint.
00:35:01
Speaker 3: Wow.
00:35:02
Speaker 4: And then he goes through the list of things that have given Michiganders concern, and there are plenty of them. You remember after an avowedly Hezbollah-inspired terrorist rammed his car into a Jewish day school, he was hoping to kill 120 children and their teachers. That was when El-Sayed said, well, hurt people hurt people.
00:35:23
Speaker 2: Right. Put it on the Jews.
00:35:25
Speaker 5: He was looking pretty good, El-Sayed, up until this happened yesterday morning. I was wondering how important this is, his former competitor going against him. But Mark Hopper, writing for the Free Press today, thinks it's really big and that it will take a huge tsunami wave to get El-Sayed across the.
00:35:44
Speaker 2: Finish line now.
00:35:46
Speaker 5: Right.
00:35:47
Speaker 2: So I don't know if.
00:35:49
Speaker 5: If I was voting for somebody who lost, do I switch parties if she switches parties?
00:35:54
Speaker 9: I don't know.
00:35:56
Speaker 4: And of course, finally, anybody who brings up any of these things, Al-Said calls them an Islamophobe, which to review is a word created by fascists. And used by cowards to manipulate morons. Final note of James Peace. What's shocking isn't Haley Stevens' decision to wash her hands of El-Said and his rancid campaign, but that so few other Democrats have had the moral courage to emulate her. Country over party apparently only goes one way. For those calling Stevens a despicable traitor, I have four words for you. Hurt people hurt people.
00:36:28
Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good one.
00:36:30
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:36:30
Speaker 2: That landed him. That left a mark, as they say. Bent him over. Now kick him in the face. You should subscribe.
00:36:38
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00:36:44
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00:37:00
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