🎉 KeyForge Celebration Schedule Revealed & Why Adaptive is the Worst Format Ever

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Times like are you and get to know if we're
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gonna be you know, if we're gonna be speaking intelligently
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or not.
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And then he's like, yeah, I'm out of here. I'll
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steal all their ideas later on the recast.
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That's not just Josh, that's pretty much anyone.
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Yeah, we could see fair enough a lot of what's
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going on everybody.
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I am the one, the only, the w o okay,
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I you joined here by my normal cast of misfits.
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We got the drazz Boar, Hey, guys, how's it going?
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Doctor m Sheep Hello, and the Ewokyist of Ewoks Ewok Jr.
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Hello, Keyboard Community, glad to be here.
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It's nice. Gigi threw us a bone at Huh. We're like, man,
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what are we going to talk about? And then they're like, hey,
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I know, we'll release the new key Ford Celebrations schedule.
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So I also have cats, and we also have cats
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and dogs here. Who is at the end we're gonna
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we figured we'd have them join in and talk about
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KFC since this will be their first KFC. You want
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to say hello cats.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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Yeah, And then uh.
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And uh, he's going to try to convince us that
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alliance uh not alliance adaptive is good, the other the
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other dirty A word the a word we don't recognize
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around here. Yeah, a little chat. We'll have a chat.
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You're going to see how incredibly hardheaded, too grumpy old
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men can be and we'll go from there. So starting
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with everything we knew KFC was right around the corner.
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It will be sometime in November, and by sometimes I
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mean starting on Thursday, November sixth, unless you are a
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Vault Warrior, it actually starts on the fifth, because you
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got to go to a dinner. Sheep, How are we
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getting to this dinner? I don't need to go, but
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I heard there was a party bus that was going
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to Whirllyball.
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Yeah that's for you. Yes, I'm going to drive a
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car to Minnesota. And then once I'm in Minnesota, we'll
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probably be staying at the hotel that's very nearby, so
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I will just go over to dinner. No crazy plans,
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and then Sydney on her show will tell the rest
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of you what you can do.
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Oh that's other crazy plans. Don't involve the game just
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degenerating into people beating each other with sticks. Definitely doesn't
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do that.
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That happens later.
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I do intend to make it to beating you with
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a stick.
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Oh boy, I look forward to it, but we have
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to flight was earlier switch until ten.
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Mmm.
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Well, looking at this keyboard celebration the actual landing page cheap.
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I hope you can hold your cup while beating this
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wookie and have this look that the Sarian has.
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It's a very man.
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I'm only got one hand, so holding a cump and
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beating at the same time is not in my skill set.
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You do have a small stick, so probably won't.
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Oh man, this is where we're headed with this automatically
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hont That's fine, that's pretty much par for the course
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for this show. But I'm glad to sell like you're yeah,
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the small stick. I'm glad to see that they were
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just like, you know what, We're not going to stop
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them from drinking, so we'll just lean into it.
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And now the sorry it is holding a cup.
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Ready to go?
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Yeah, it is a blinged out cup. I might have
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to bring out my my og cup from two thousand
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and five, my crunk juice goblet.
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I think this I think we did see a goblet
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previously EDKC and I think this is really paying homage
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to that image.
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We saw goblet it. Wait, hold on what?
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Oh yeah, there was a special princess cup. You don't
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remember these things?
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How do people net?
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I don't know what he's talking about either.
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Okay, I've never saw this princess cup.
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No, got it?
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Got it. But we start off on well, we start off.
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On Wednesday, which if you are a Vault Warrior, you're
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probably gonna want to get your free dinner. Weird that
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they would put it on Wednesday, a whole day before
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anything even starts.
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Well, they want.
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As minimal participation as possible.
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I would love I would love for minimal and the
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GG staff to go ahead and come in and talk
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to us about it.
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I offer. I know, but I'm going to offer a spot.
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And he has nothing to do with this. He's o P.
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He probably doesn't even know there's a dinner on Thursday.
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I said, I said, c TP, or did anyone from
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GG staffs.
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I'm opening it up. I know who's wearing the DP.
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If you listen to this trash show, you're welcome to
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come on. We will be potholes to you too.
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That's our favorite thing to do, being buttholes really really
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Lauren a mid Yeah, we just want it to be honest,
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like we don't want to bait and switch somebody thinking
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like we're a help from future self and then all
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of a sudden, that's this this ship.
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I mean, we just want to know why. Well, there
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would just be one question.
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What because they already run the events until ten o'clock
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every other night of the week, So when else are
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they going to do it?
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Because they want to have one night where they all
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don't have to eat crummy buffalo wild wings. I bet
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you that has a lot to do with it, because
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that's all that's open.
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You know. Then they should have they should have either
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gone to that brewery or that roast beef place. That
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was awesome. That's what they should should have done. I didn't.
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I just thought that was fine.
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That was beef, that was pretty good. It was it
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was fine, said Philly.
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Just add that in right, like they don't know.
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Yeah, you know, like raccoon food, trash food. Oh no, no,
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I'm seen people eat it. It's it's something that's like
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it's a wired taste.
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And I thought that, uh, they should poney up for
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a nice party bus and then take the people to
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the brewery, have it catered, or a nice restaurant, have
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it catered, because it's already ready to go for you.
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Sit down, you eat good beverage, soda, water, whatever you want,
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and then come on back on the party bus.
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We got this three fingers of jack with a splash
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of water whatever. Or there's this place which actually we
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definitely have to check out. It's called the Nashville Coop.
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It's a fried chicken spot. Not too far nice. Okay,
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what night are we doing that? Thursday? Ac KFC, the
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next Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I don't know what days things
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are going down, so we'll play it by ear. But yeah,
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let's say, what's I'm going to go to a chicken spot? Yeah,
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they're until nine pm. Yeah, a bunch of us have
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scrubbed out by then, so we can go.
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Yeah, that's that's insane. All Yeah, that far away.
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Speaking of.
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Thoughts and prayers with all those who are are hurt.
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It's been sad. You guys have not heard.
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Yeah, the mass shoot, the school shooting in Minnesota. It
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was it was in Minnesota. Well, yeah, it is a church,
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the school church.
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Yeah, and that's how Just so you're where five in
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the US since school started this year, oh Man, school
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just started last week. No, it started earlier depending on
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where you are. We will start next Tuesday. But a
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lot of schools have been in session. But yeah, there
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have been five, which is wow, do better, do better, peeps,
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but chicken.
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So if you're thinking you could do a school shooting, don't,
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please don't please don't. All right, this is what people
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listen to us far you know something hot chicken school shootings?
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You got it?
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Does Does this count as KFC finger licking?
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Good?
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Well, it's this place looks real good. This series this year,
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you have to your favorite ARCon.
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Yeah, looking good. Yep. The human I.
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Don't recommend this.
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I mean, I mean, look how happy her. I'm gonna
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put her image marsas.
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I could do mimosas. That's like a morning you could
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start right away at nine am. Mimosas.
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Drazz your picture that you posted in our live show, amazing.
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Now the falling knife, that's the falling Knife brewery. There's
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a falling knife. Okay, so falling knife. When he was like,
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I wonder what I should call it, and he like
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looks across the bar like the taps are literally knives.
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Put it down. So now we gotta go to the
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Falling How many minutes is this from the game center.
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We gotta go to the Falling Knife Brewery and the
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Chicken coop, So it is a seven minute drive from
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the game center. Don't tell me he wasn't there when
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he thought this up. All right, So I'm glad we're
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getting food already figured out. That's half the Hey, that
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is always the most power to struggle. Yeah, that is
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the big struggle every night. I don't care. Where do
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you want to go? I don't care where do you
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want to go?
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Okay, in all seriousness, we got to write this down
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so we remember.
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Drafts cords already, got Google docs open. I'm sure I
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got it, I got it? Yeah, yeah, what do I
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have a Google I'm had the map, I could great
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Google doc yeah yeah. But starting out for Thursday, let's
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get too some key forage activities, gentlemen, what do you say?
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All right? Do it? World Registration from ten am to
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five pm. World Championship are we Yeah we don't. It's
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happening on six through ninth.
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Sign up sign up this yeah, but yeah, there's an
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open in a World Championship. Agin, We're good.
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Yeah, hold on the weekend. Two things have changed this year.
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I don't know if you guys noticed. So last year,
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I can't remember when was the keynote. It was at
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the end of Sunday, right, I know the Meet the
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Ghosties was on Sunday.
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Yeah, are you talking keynote as where he presented information about.
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Yeah, you know where CTP gets up on the stage
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and goes, we know we haven't given you op this year,
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but we'll do better next year.
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And that happened. That was Friday.
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I know, Meet the Ghosties was on Sunday last year,
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and either they didn't have a lot of questions or
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they just really really missed us because they put it
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back on Thursday this year.
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I think they just want to be done.
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Or CTP has got a boat to catch.
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Yeah, he's going to show up for like that one
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hour on Thursday and.
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It will never be seen again. Yeah, yep, that's what
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I was thinking.
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That's what he's got minions for.
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M yep, yep.
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Yeah, yeah, but Thursday, Yes, they do the keynote. Really
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that makes this matches with what we've seen in the past.
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Well yeah, but like last again, last year it was
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a little I thought it was on Sunday, because I
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thought we sift all that, oh.
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Met the posts for this. Theer is on the six
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as well.
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So let's talk about the Last Chance qualifiers because this
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is where the real meat and potatoes we start getting
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into it. Nothing has really changed except there's this big
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thing in the middle here, to which Sheep was so
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nicely to point it out for me to get me
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really riled up to there. Players are purchase ticket that
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includes the Last Chance Qualifier option. No additional entry fees
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will be assessed, no event key required. Players will be
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provided three sealed key four charge Crucible Clash decks. In
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order to participate. We got to sleep and they'll give
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you sleeves. So yes, your Last Chance Qualifier will be
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played in Crucible Clash Crucible Net. All right, So so
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cats and Dogs before we all get into that, what
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do you think about this?
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I like playing that set, but I'm I don't know
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how it's going to go down for competition. I'm going
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to open Thievery and then I will win. That's basically
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my plan.
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That sounds like that sounds like a fandom me because
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at first I was like, yeah, they top day, it
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will just be Thievery yeah, well for me, and one that.
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Lets you fetch up stuff, you know, like grab grab
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your three cards out of your deck that'll kill two.
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Yeah, none of those are kind of powers. Were definitely
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none of them are overpowered at.
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All, balance optimized.
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They are balanced optimized. However, I thought you weren't even
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going to be able to play with the ARCon powers
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until Sheep was so nice to point out to me
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that's only an ARCon and Alliance Sealed is another story.
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You get to pay, you get one of three garbage
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ARCon powers because that's what you'll be drawing.
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Alliance rules. You have to use a pod from the
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deck that you're the r power for. Weird you should
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ask that, because I have it right here. If a
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seal deck is constructed from a set using ARCon power cards,
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it must include exactly one ARCon power reference card from
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an ARCon deck that contributed at least one house pod
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to the sealed deck. Decks constructed from other sets cannot
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include an ARCon power card. M M, yeah, I mean
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I wish they just wouldn't have the ARCon power Then
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the bush cards you play them. It's fun. Yeah, that's
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kind of what I thought it would be, but I
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told I was wrong. I mean, look, we did play
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We played our Crucible Clash this past weekend. On Sunday,
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we played our three deck event, so it was monthly event. Well,
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so what we did was we took a vote as
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to how we wanted to do it. It was voted
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almost unanimously that we would play True Sealed, except that
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you could select any of the three ARCon powers from
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any of the decks to put with your deck. So
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that that was what we did.
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You know, like, did you guys do like no bust
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like when you were playing Double O seven with your kids?
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Oh?
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Wait, no, no, no one guy did have thie three? Sorry
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he did? Did he win? Good?
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I was just saying, like back in the day, I
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remember everybody player remember playing Double O seven And you'd
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be like, no, odd Job right because odd Job was
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a character with the smallest hip boxes.
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Yep, exactly right. So you'd be like, oh, no, busted powers.
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I don't know what you're talking about. I understand the worst.
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It's it's.
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I now, I was a PlayStation kid.
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I'm sorry for you.
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He uh, I don't have over gouber.
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I'm sorry for saying what I said because I have
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brought this episode to a screeching halt of my bad continue. Yeah, so,
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like the one guy did have ochree, he had the
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odd job, and uh it was I think he was
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trying a little too hard to like actually play the
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cards that were in his deck instead of just like
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and just everything out of them to steal thirty six. Yeah,
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and then just steal thirty six is what That steal
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up to thirty six member per game is what that
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cards that should be enough to win? Yeah, so good.
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It was the first one I opened, Was it really?
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Yeah?
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And I was like, I was that experience? Well well yeah,
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because I hadn't I didn't know any of the other powers.
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So I read it and I had to reread it
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a couple of times and ago, you can do this
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more than once per turn? Oh yeah, I mean this
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is this.
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Is nuts and it would makes sense if it was
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only once per turn.
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But no, Maybey are rat of that card before world?
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Maybe? I mean it's probably not.
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Maybe they did it to stupid echo charge.
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Yeah that's only because we liked it. So I really
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like fevery.
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Nice card. Definitely not busted, totally balanced.
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Talked some trash about that card I'm with Thrascore here, though,
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crystpal Clash as a whole is perfectly fine minus dark
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on powers. Alternatively, if you're playing our compowers, if it's
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there for me, I think that it should be there
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for both players, and you play that at least it's
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a more even playing field. Dexto will lean in and
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have an advantage.
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But those are the only two ways that I see
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it as being as being a good I mean, I
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you imagine that game though, it's just like who draws?
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Like you're just stealing back, and like what even happens
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in that game? So did you pick? I guess it's
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so much.
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Stronger than a token because it's a card in play.
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From turning on right ready to.
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Thievery, they somebody has to make Amber correct, and so
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you do have to be able to lean. You can
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also play like if your house actually has steal, you
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can purge the other cards to create a very thin
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like shredder deck that you want to just cycle in
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your hand. Can just be the key cards that you want.
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There's a real advantage to being able to do that.
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That's some actual strategy, but here, just by being able
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to open thievery versus this. Hey, I have two nights,
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so I'm going to get to gain an extra amber
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when I play at night.
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What do you mean?
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These are really fair imbalanced and in no way is
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there a power disparity between them.
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I also this is a This is a bummer because
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I know they create a crucible clash and it really
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hasn't gotten the play experience that I think they were
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looking for. However, PV has a number of people who
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are really liking it or people who are really not
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liking it.
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But I definitely I don't know.
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I think that it's it's drawn people in in the
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competitive scene, at least for playing ARCon So I would
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have liked to have seen that, at least in the
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sealed format.
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But I'm not the one decided there are some fun
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cards in the set. We should I do agree with
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the cards.
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Yeah, it's a fun that the cards are great.
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There's a lot.
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There's nothing that I can really remember that was like
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on that card's busted right where there's no Trenk's creed.
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There's no there's nothing crazy, crazy crazy that I can remember.
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If I didn't even make it. That was the spoiler
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that didn't make it in so that was too much
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right down.
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But then they're like, oh is that what can we
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do this? And I was like, I do, I do,
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like I do.
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Like Marty's comment, imagine if they are at of thievery
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and leave Trinks alone.
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The truth the world finally good enough.
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I'm just kind of wondering how that that whole thing,
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that that that meeting went when they finally figured out
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that Trunk's creed does what it does, and they're like,
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maybe if we won't say anything, no one will notice, right,
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remember like for a Life where it.
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Yeah, okay, great, guys, it is fine for around the
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kitchen table, we're good.
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But you know remember when Life for a Life just
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said sacrifice the creature and you could sack your opponent screecher,
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because you know, that's what it didn't say. That didn't
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say friendly creature. And then they were like, oh yeah,
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that was supposed to say friendly and then they changed it.
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Hmm. I know.
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I've voiced more.
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Than one, maybe more than one Shrink's creed.
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Yes, there are there's a back out there now. Yeah,
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now that you said that, Shrink's creed just went up
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in power level again. It is now like a seventy six.
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Mmmm, every every every top eight deck that had Sanctum
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and it also had shrinks creed weird. Do you think
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that's because because they felt bad for Sanctum, They're like,
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oh man, we got to give them something.
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I think it was just a mistake. I think it
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was too but well, one one will never know. One
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will never know. But you'll be playing Crucible Clash at KFC.
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Will we see one flicks?
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I don't know.
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Unlikely.
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I mean we have heard so much about Crucible Clash
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that I would expect, Oh man, it's going to be
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a dominant set and it's going to win everything and
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so good.
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Remember Pepper Farmer members. I mean, there's been very like right,
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like you. The release date for retail hasn't hit yet,
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so doors haven't been able to refill if they've run out.
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So a bunch of people got their three decks through
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the game found and then haven't gotten any more. Yep.
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I suspect some people will want to get more. Well now, yes,
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they're like, how can we increase Crucible Clash sales? I know,
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let's make it what you'll be playing in the sealed qualifiers? Honestly,
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what yeah?
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Maybe, yeah, I don't have a problem with Crucible Clash
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the actual decks themselves. I enjoy playing that. It just
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comes down to the ARCon powers are not balanced, and
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so if you're not equally accessible to them, and so again,
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three decks, we always play single so three decks I
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at least have a better chance to pull something. But
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I do think the ark On powers are widely variable.
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Marty is in there saying that, And I didn't even
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look at this because I just immediately teed off on
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this thing that I'll be playing Crucible Clash the sealed
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open it is prophetic visions. Yeah, why why.
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Would you do World one and not the both PV.
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Because it's more fun to play multiple things.
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Yeah, yeah, I mean.
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So remember that, remember that they want to run too, Yeah,
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they want to run. They want to run two different
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sets too. We've seen that in the past. So we're
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looking at one kind of older set and one new.
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They just simply put it a C C and then PV. Mmmm,
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that's not that's not a normal because picture of both
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of them were CC, or both of them were PV.
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They're they're just spreading it out. I'm fine with that.
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And then we're going to get it. Yeah, the theory
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is good.
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I don't know what this measures for measures is. I
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can only imagine as stochronian measures. Players are required to
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bring us special measures for measures, tournament voucher for participation.
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That's that's gonna be late at night for measures.
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It's your first look at Draconian measures. They're gonna have
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that ready by KFC.
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Yeah, they always, they always do that. That's your first time.
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I mean, they got the printer right there, right, they
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can they can print it that week, just whip up
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a few.
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember last year where like, because
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I thought Draconian Measures, I thought the game found was
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late this year as compared to where as was last year.
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It is a little bit.
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It feels a lot late, remember for two three months later.
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But you know what they can do, right. CTP can
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be like, uh, hey, Josh, you know you uh you
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said you were going to run this event. Well the
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printer's open starting eleven pm night, so you better get
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in there. You gonna run the printer through the night,
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run the printer hand packed decks.
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I actually like the events, the early access for people
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coming to worlds, a chance to play your an upcoming set.
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I think that is a good one. I think it's wait, yeah,
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I think that works out really well. Give access, let
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them try it out. And we've seen some erratus. Some
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cards have been changed as a results of those events.
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One card has been changed, that's it, just the one
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just which one charge?
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Yes, I don't know if it was because but again,
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when you can get some play, you just have a
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lot more people playing and being able to run through
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those stacks and to see the interactions.
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Because I don't remember anything from Ember Sky is getting
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change due to us playing saying it early or no?
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Do we play as early?
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No?
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No, I don't think we did.
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Grimm reminders. I remember we got to play early. Yeah, yeah, No,
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I don't think we did.
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It was just sure I seem to remember. I don't know,
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I remember are Yeah it was late night that and
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then yeah talk was the one last year. Yep, late
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night talk. Oh that's right, Yeah, it wasn't it. It
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started so late. There was a lot of disagreement as
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to should we start, should we play or not? Should
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we start now later things are still going on.
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I will simply say where people are you start on time?
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I'm sorry that other people are still playing. Hey, you're
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doing really well. Great, keep playing, but we're going to
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start the event when don't go ahead and go through it.
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I like that it was three decks pick one. I'm
491
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.119
perfectly fine with that. It just is a very rushed
492
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.880
atmosphere last year, and that we can do better with. Yeah,
493
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:17.880
and the and the prizes need to actually be something. No, no, nope, nope.
494
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.400
Nobody comes for prizes, not a soul right, see.
495
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:23.640
No, nobody comes for prizes.
496
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.000
But the short answer is if you win, if you
497
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.200
go ahead and go three to zero, there should be
498
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.279
something that's worthwhile.
499
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.240
Not here you get another deck.
500
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.359
I mean, I'm I will better do better the prizes.
501
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:42.880
I don't think the prizes are that critical, but yeah
502
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:48.319
they are pretty poor. Yeah, yeah, poor, that's an acceptable answer.
503
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:53.480
They can do foil now, like foil they could and
504
00:28:54.000 --> 00:29:01.720
here's yeah, yeah, we'll keep all oil. I do think
505
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.400
I buy them and I give them the sheep because
506
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.440
they're still dog shit when I open them. They just
507
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.559
have a foil. They look pretty, they do. I think
508
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.039
foil solo. You couldn't even tell it was foil.
509
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.920
Oh really, my soils have been awesome.
510
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.400
Yeah, a lot of them are so little for whatever reason,
511
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.559
the solo like whatever, whatever the areas they chose, the
512
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.319
areas they chose to foil made sense to foil. It
513
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:30.000
just didn't. It didn't come through.
514
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:32.759
It doesn't stand out a lot. That is true.
515
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.480
Can I go ahead and give the recommendation? We know
516
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.039
that it costs more for foiled decks, yep, but what
517
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.680
about an all foiled deck for your new draconian measures?
518
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:46.119
So a set that's not overall here no, no.
519
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:51.440
That it would cost about fifty dollars to make soil deck.
520
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.519
I am in so we have buy.
521
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.920
No no, no, But but depending on how many players
522
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.279
come out for the sealed events. If you announce ahead
523
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.640
of time, you should draw more in because they're excited
524
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.559
and will stay. But how many people will go three?
525
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:05.839
And oh?
526
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:11.559
If you have four five, maybe think about what that
527
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:12.440
price point is.
528
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:13.279
And here's the thing.
529
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.640
You can produce five or six ahead of time, and
530
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.119
any of them that don't act like your numbers maybe
531
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.480
are low they didn't show up. Then put those in
532
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:24.680
as a final raffle. Those would be sought after items. Again,
533
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.359
if we announce it, they'd be something with a new
534
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:31.799
set all foil super limited. Who makes it a little
535
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.480
bit better than just here's another deck.
536
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.640
Well all right, so all right, if you think about
537
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.279
every single card in a set, was that three hundred some? Yeah,
538
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:46.759
and you think about you have to have either you
539
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:53.440
do it slobby or you have an artist design where
540
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:57.000
the foil goes Yep, how much do you think it
541
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.880
they would have to pay an artist. Well, but it's
542
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:04.119
going to be a large here's the other idea. That
543
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.960
first deck doesn't cost fifty dollars. That first deck costs
544
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:09.400
five thousand dollars.
545
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.240
Here's the deal thereafter. I really like the foiler. They
546
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.680
did a fantastic job. I don't understand why everything needs
547
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.279
to be like head and heels crazy, like we need
548
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:27.319
these crazy foils, right, I mean, why not just take
549
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.000
the back. You remember how Magic used to do it.
550
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.160
It was just the border. The border would be foil
551
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.880
and then everything else would be just ha, we got
552
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:39.680
cool border stuff, right, So just just foil out the border, right,
553
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.599
just just if it's a Mars card, that Mars border
554
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.720
gets foiled, So now you only have to do it
555
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.759
eleven times as opposed to I understand it's a quality like,
556
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.119
well these look cooler. Well you want to know what like.
557
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:58.519
Time in the Yeah. No, I was going to make
558
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:00.839
an analogy there, but I don't know if many people
559
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.599
would understand it, so I'm.
560
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.599
Not is it Is it a falling knife analogy?
561
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:10.200
It is not a falling knife analogy, butalogy. Oh okay,
562
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:16.799
let's let's talk Sega. Yeah, I'm like two duh. It's
563
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:17.240
not like to.
564
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.200
Did you guys ever get a chance to play No Mad?
565
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:22.839
No? Okay?
566
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:26.720
So No Mad was actually the handheld version that could
567
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:28.359
play Sega Genesis games.
568
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:29.599
Okay.
569
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:35.599
Oh the batteries last like fourteen hours. So far, so
570
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:40.000
far ahead of its time. Man, it just that's my childhood, right.
571
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.839
There was a backlit screen. Yeah, put all the other
572
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:43.519
ones the shame.
573
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:50.279
Yeah, x men Rosarro was at ooh. Well, I played
574
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.839
a lot of Aladdin Laddin. Now I didn't have the
575
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.079
Psyga Genesis. I had the Super Nintendo. But my next
576
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.240
door neighbor he had the Sega, so we would jump
577
00:32:59.279 --> 00:32:59.880
back and forth.
578
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.079
Oh so you had the best both worlds.
579
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:09.079
That's right, that's right, I had a Sega. It's pretty sweet.
580
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.680
Now you were Sacha guy. I played a lot of Aladdin.
581
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:21.000
That game was on that carpet. I forgot I played
582
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:25.319
a lot of Maden Sonic and Madden Sonic. Yeah, played
583
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:32.599
a lot of Sonic too. All right, well, oh yeah,
584
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.920
I play a birth Worm gym. I forgot about Earthworm gym.
585
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:39.519
That was a good Did you guys ever play Pirates Gold? No?
586
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.680
No, Pirates Gold and NHL? I did enjoy some NHL.
587
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.799
But for Pirates Gold, you're basically a little pirate ship
588
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.319
and you go around and then like swashbuckle people and
589
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.240
steal from them. Man, it was so.
590
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.519
It was robbery with a deadly weapon. What a cool concept. Anyways,
591
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.039
it's definitely not a definitely not a felony. But anyways,
592
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.599
I think that anything we got some over about KFC,
593
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.159
it's happening. Go listen to help from future self. They'll
594
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:16.199
tell you what we're where and when we're drinking. Uh,
595
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.599
I mean we're I mean they're doing the first night.
596
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.760
I'm sure we'll we'll we'll lead some mascapades. Don't worry,
597
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:26.199
we'll have Yeah, we'll have a jazz core experience. Buy
598
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.239
your tickets now on our Patreon for three Maybe maybe
599
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.440
that'll go to our the Drawbetter dot cards. Also, if
600
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:38.519
you want to just say Patreon, yeah, does it not crash.
601
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.599
Do you try to upload on TV next?
602
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:41.800
Well?
603
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:46.360
No, So so you know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm
604
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:49.239
gonna commit to the vibe coding. I'm not gonna write
605
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.440
any code myself or so I'm like doing some stuff.
606
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.079
This was yesterday and I was like, oh, yeah, let
607
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.079
me do this thing. This will be cool. I like
608
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.880
run it. I sell these like console logs just like flying.
609
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.639
I'm like what, like what is it even doing? Like
610
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.880
why is it just like churning and churning and churning.
611
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.119
And I started to see all these errors from d
612
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:17.559
ok that I'm firing too many requests, so like, holy crap,
613
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.280
I'm detossing d okay, so I had to kill the
614
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:26.000
process for sport. I fired like hundreds of requests, so
615
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:30.239
you almost shut down the okay whoops. Yeah, I like
616
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.480
message Nova. I was like, uh, whoops. So in an
617
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.000
attempt to make something better and almost shut down what
618
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:41.880
we have, thanks dress Car. Yeah. So so she she's
619
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.840
I mean, she's pretty smart, like she she puts up protections.
620
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.320
When I started to see was all these four to
621
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:48.480
twenty nine errors, and I was like, wait a second,
622
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.639
I think yeah, so I made it and it actually
623
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.760
tells you how many requests. Yeah, you you've been making.
624
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.559
I was like, I was like three hundred. Oh gosh,
625
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.199
let me so woops.
626
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.039
So what you're saying is SaaS won the first war
627
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.599
between SaaS and Drascore.
628
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:10.960
For now.
629
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.400
Yeah, but once we get to PV, don't even worry
630
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:18.440
SaaS candle a candle. Yeah. All the other sets you're
631
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.559
on your own. But PV we got you. That's right,
632
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.880
that's right. What I got you? I mean, yeah, I
633
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.519
got an eventually I got this thing is not I
634
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.199
can't turn this on right now like somebody else could
635
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.199
do what I did. Just whoops.
636
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.199
And then and then all of a sudden, we no
637
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.840
longer have d okay either. All right, cool, I'm excited.
638
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.039
But yeah, I KFC is a great time. If you
639
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:50.039
have not picked up tickets, definitely pick up tickets. Come
640
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.920
out again. Community is great. One hundred dollars for the
641
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.400
weekend all.
642
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:56.599
No.
643
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.639
A hundred is the weekend pass and then all days,
644
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.760
so it's your Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
645
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.480
It's like old days. Just sounds weird up.
646
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.639
Yeah, I believe it was. It was, wasn't it. Now
647
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.159
it's one forty five weren't we telling them this should
648
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:13.599
increase the price, wasn't that?
649
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:17.880
I mean, if you're looking, if you're looking at six,
650
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.800
but picture you're getting six decks out of it, like
651
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:22.079
it's a good deal.
652
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.760
Are you getting six stacks out of it? Aren't you
653
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:28.239
just getting your three?
654
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:29.000
Mm?
655
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.960
Hmmm, y yes, I'll.
656
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.800
See plus VM twenty five.
657
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.239
Yeah, well you're probably getting like one VM twenty five.
658
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:40.920
Now I gotta go.
659
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:41.519
I can't remember.
660
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:48.360
It might be four. It's probably four decks, yeah, because
661
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.239
they did for the double event last year. I think
662
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:55.079
they if you you had enough vouchers to participate in
663
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:56.320
one of the events, right.
664
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:58.480
Yeah, it says make sure to get the bag. All
665
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.480
attendings expect to receive a traditional Ghost Galaxy goodie bag
666
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.800
with one arc on deck, an event pinning, an event
667
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.000
badge in an event program. An additional three to six
668
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.199
decks are included for seal depends depending on the ticket
669
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.519
type purchased. These complimentary decks are given out. Yeah, so
670
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:16.960
it was six. I had read that, right, Okay, we.
671
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:19.800
Again six decks?
672
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.480
Is six decks is worth it?
673
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:23.639
That's not a bad deal.
674
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.440
I didn't find it funny for a time to register,
675
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.480
they said, they said two to three minutes allow fifteen
676
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:31.159
minute wait time.
677
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.480
Yeah, it made me laugh. Once you get to the
678
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.719
front of the line that want to pick a log dark,
679
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.000
this is a josh fifteen minutes, which is like an hour.
680
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:49.320
I think it's like sixty. It's like I think it
681
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:50.719
may be.
682
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.599
We can move fast.
683
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.360
Yeah, it'll be fine, it'll be like sixty.
684
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:58.400
Anyways, all right, tour to that event where we're gonna
685
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:04.239
let cancer Dog tell us why adaptive is the best
686
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.920
format ever and then we pooh poo all over it.
687
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:09.440
Are you ready to catch y?
688
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:11.400
Yeah?
689
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:18.119
Yeah, yeah, so let's see. Oh no, you jumped on
690
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:25.000
them talk Yeah, listen, So you could have said adaptive, Oh,
691
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.400
that's not the format for me, and then you know
692
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:32.199
that everyone can respect that. You know, everyone played Keyfards.
693
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.880
How you want to play Keyfords? Right, but you said adaptive,
694
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.400
here's the dice roll format, and I just lost my mind.
695
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.679
Yeah, most adaptive players do when they hear that.
696
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:48.280
Yeah, because look, look, we just went through we went
697
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.559
through the Final Refrains, we went through Arkhan, we went
698
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.679
through Alliance. You participated in some of those, and how
699
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:58.519
many times did we have a matchup where a deck
700
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:03.199
and a pilot just two to oh flattened the other side.
701
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.880
And we're sitting there in the chat and we're going like, oh,
702
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.039
look at these Alliance builds. And if you get the
703
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.159
combo on turn one, it's there's nothing to do but
704
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.239
just like sit here and laugh and it's over by
705
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.039
turn three, and.
706
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.679
Well, yeah, Alliance is no good. We agree, Okay, Alliance
707
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:20.519
is no good. Arcan ARCon.
708
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:25.239
We we still have Like when you have a new
709
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.679
set and you open your one hundred decks, how many
710
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:28.719
of them are you going to bring to.
711
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:37.679
Archon two point zero one point zero one? I'm like, hey,
712
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:38.599
can I borrow this?
713
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:40.280
Yeah?
714
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:40.559
Right?
715
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.840
Can I borrow that good one? And then PV comes out?
716
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.159
And then that one that you borrowed, you know, Aria
717
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.519
is Aria already like in the dust or like maybe
718
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:50.159
still good enough?
719
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:55.199
It's probably I mean it likes archives.
720
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.119
Okay, so when you roll into the ARCon tournament, what
721
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.199
are we doing except eighty percent seeing who brought the
722
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:06.000
strongest deck.
723
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.119
Honestly, that's very much a matchup game, right, isn't it.
724
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:16.760
But if we're playing adaptive, we'll play that game. We'll
725
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.440
swap and then we'll find out who's good.
726
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.320
All right, So here's your first problem.
727
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.719
If you win too well, if you win too oh
728
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.440
that was skill, and then all of a sudden, it
729
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:27.800
breaks the whole game wide open.
730
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.559
Here's here's your first problem. Your first problem is exactly
731
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.000
what you said. We got to play one game, then swap. Okay,
732
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.480
this is an Ewok forge, right, I'm not here for
733
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.599
three hours round one? Okay, not interesting? Oh man, I
734
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.840
had a practice in Alliance game with Ewok for ABR.
735
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:54.519
I was like, oh man, forever, it is not that slow.
736
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.639
I was like, why did I drive this guy? I
737
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:00.639
mean that's fair.
738
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.280
Yeah, yeah, because this guy's only lost one game.
739
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:05.960
You're welcome.
740
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.159
Okay, look at me, mister big time.
741
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:13.639
You're the best of three.
742
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.280
You reply, we're gonna skip skip the best of three
743
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.360
and we go to best of one, because that's what
744
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.960
we would really play. In a like a in the
745
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.280
Final Refrain, you would play the best of threes in
746
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.159
a vault or whatever. Then we would play best of
747
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:29.599
one and we would sit down. We would look at
748
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.400
the two decks and we go, okay, that one's complete nonsense.
749
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.719
Triple Trink's creed. So we're gonna bid on this one.
750
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.840
And you're gonna use your keyboard skills to figure out
751
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.000
how much it's worth, and then you're gonna use your
752
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:45.639
keyboard skills to either make a win or beat it
753
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.039
with the other thing.
754
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:51.239
Have you listened to my argument before?
755
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.280
I'm not sure that I have, honestly.
756
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:55.199
Okay, So.
757
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:02.119
Say we're both really good or even you know, tending
758
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.639
towards moderately good right at keyfde right now we're here,
759
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.480
and yeah, decks are inequal. This is very very true.
760
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.599
And I'm sitting here with my Triple Trunk's Creed and
761
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.800
you know you just your best deck in the world
762
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.559
can't compete with it, right, So you're like, in arcan
763
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:21.239
this is pointless. I understand what you're saying. I'm not
764
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:26.400
disagreeing that that is in fact. Okay, so we sit down.
765
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.840
We're going to play adaptive. We play a shitty game. Okay,
766
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.519
you want to go to best of one, So we're
767
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.119
gonna sit down, We're gonna go best of one and
768
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.679
go well, obviously we're both fitting on the bullshit deck. Yeah, okay,
769
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:41.960
so now we've bid chains. Yep, right now, we're both
770
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.519
good at this. Right in my world, I'm generally planning
771
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.199
against people who are competent in key Ford, not beating
772
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.360
them because I am just better at key Ford, right,
773
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.159
Like I can do that without having to have a
774
00:43:56.159 --> 00:44:01.280
triple trinks creed deck if they're just back at key Ford. Sure, sorry,
775
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:05.239
we're gonna excellent players. I bid some chains, now you
776
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.400
bid some chains, and I doe more chains. And when
777
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.159
do we quit bidding chains?
778
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:17.800
When you assess that we've hit the break even point
779
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:19.159
in this matchup.
780
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.559
Which break even means what are the odds I'm gonna
781
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.360
win with this deck? Yeah?
782
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.000
But so this is where we're going to, like is
783
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.480
a good turn into a coin.
784
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.599
Flip, which is not like a game theory sense, and
785
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.760
that it is right in a game three sense, it
786
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:43.360
switches to a coin flip. And actually as if if
787
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:48.159
it's if the game bid is two or three chains,
788
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:55.679
it's not that as majorly important, right, But when we're
789
00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:00.679
getting into the the seven to fifteen bid range, right, yeah,
790
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:06.119
and you're playing with significantly less cards right now, like
791
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.599
winning with the bit it up chain deck becomes even
792
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:17.480
more of a crappy luck draw because if you draw
793
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:23.039
how strong, right, if you're drawing four four hands when
794
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.719
you're down to chains, like it almost didn't matter that
795
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.920
you bid chains and you win because of the draw
796
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:31.800
more than the chain bid.
797
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:35.960
I'm believing that there's something to that absolutely, and.
798
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:42.840
This is ultimately my total problem with this is in
799
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.199
game theory, and my game theory is what we're doing
800
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:50.079
is bidding to let's be honest, like sixty forty fifty
801
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.000
five forty five, right, You're not really ever going to
802
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.880
bid to fifty to fifty. Yeah, and we're just ultimately
803
00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.000
increasing that luck is going to make a major deciding fact.
804
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:03.800
So I think what I would say to that is,
805
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.280
this is like the hypothetical two perfect player scenario.
806
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:11.639
I think.
807
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:14.760
Some people are better at.
808
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.960
So it's wookie yep, yeah, some people are better.
809
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.360
But also the two players brought decks that they know
810
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.639
inside and out, and so there's an interesting asymmetry there.
811
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:30.159
And then I think what happens is the player who
812
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.960
is if there's a skilled difference, the player who's got,
813
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:40.119
you know, the the advantage there manages to apply it.
814
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:43.320
So in this particular game, like any game, you can
815
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.880
draw cold and you can lose, and so things like
816
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:48.320
that can happen. But over a series, I think that
817
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.599
the most skillful player will win over and over and
818
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.119
over again. And it had nothing to do with I
819
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.840
opened a crate full of decks and I think that's
820
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.199
I think that's really important.
821
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.920
So again you're you're missing the rn G point of it, right,
822
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.719
because it when we bid up chains and we're getting
823
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:10.000
into chat crazy chain numbers right right, And you are
824
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.679
in four cards, right, Like, if you draw dead, even
825
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.599
with a really good deck and your only you only
826
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:24.360
have four cards, you're still gonna crap out against a
827
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:25.880
deck that has no chains.
828
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.360
I love playing the CODA sixty five SaaS deck against
829
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.760
the gr deck with fifteen chains.
830
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:40.280
So he and here's the other deal. You're making the
831
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.760
assumption where was ahead with this? I had, I had
832
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:50.400
an idea where I was headed. Yeah, no, I forgot.
833
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:55.239
You're making the assumption that chains is leveling the playing
834
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.679
field and that you're able to bring a deck that
835
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:04.000
your opponent can't figure out. And when you're moderately okay
836
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.400
at the game, most decks can be figured out. Because
837
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.079
you said everything that I always hear from every other
838
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.280
adaptive player, Well, you have to bring the super secret
839
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.000
deck right that your opponent just won't know what to
840
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.159
do with and it's like, no, we've all been around
841
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.880
the block most of the time to be able to
842
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.440
figure out and in a best of three, you will
843
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.079
be showing me how to do it.
844
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.000
That's true, But let's go back to the best of
845
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.079
one for a second, and let's go back to the
846
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:41.840
final refrain, because this happened a bunch in arkan An Alliance, like, so,
847
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:47.159
didn't you practice like Wookie and Sheet for your match
848
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.800
against Aren't? I can't remember, But like a lot of folks,
849
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.920
I was consuming all the different content and I heard
850
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.039
a lot of people say the same thing. We practice
851
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.039
this matchup all week, and then when we got into it,
852
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.360
I thought I was favorite like eighty twenty, and it
853
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.400
felt completely different when we got in there in the game,
854
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.079
and I think different people playing that deck on the
855
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:12.360
other side, aren't. You can get some like surface level practice,
856
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:16.039
but you can't get the real experience of what that
857
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.119
person playing that deck. Assuming that these decks have lots
858
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.159
of lines, they don't have to be a puzzle that
859
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:24.960
you can't possibly figure out, but they have lots of lines,
860
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.960
and they have lots of opportunities to archive here and
861
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.480
make little micro decisions that add up and I think
862
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.760
that there's a room for your skill expression.
863
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.000
I don't see why that's missing an ARCon.
864
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:41.239
Well, the difference between Adaptive and ARCon is that it's accessible,
865
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.800
so you're player's accessible.
866
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.559
If you are newer to this game and you sit
867
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:50.079
down and have to figure out somebody's else's deck and
868
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:50.920
bid chains.
869
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:56.079
I didn't say I didn't say for newbies. I mean
870
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:58.960
for people who want to compete and they don't have
871
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.519
two thousand decks. They have fifty decks.
872
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:05.039
So I guess this is where I'll jump in written
873
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.239
down a couple different items, But we ask why is
874
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.039
it skill that we are consistently placing as adaptive. But
875
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:16.880
before I get to that component, Adaptive has this idea
876
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:20.719
that all decks are playable, and that's just a fallacy.
877
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:24.280
The short answer is the short answer is if you
878
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.719
actually look at top level Adaptive that they have a
879
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.760
very specific set of decks that rise to the top.
880
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.840
It is a different set of decks than what you
881
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.000
see for ARCon or what you will see for Alliance,
882
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.760
but it is a very specific set of decks, and
883
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.679
so we really have three piles. You have a pile
884
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:46.320
of decks that are more conducive for adaptive, conducive for
885
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:47.559
our and more for alliance.
886
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:56.360
I agree, we need to make adaptive score now up
887
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.119
because this okay, so this is the same thing that
888
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:04.239
happened with SaaS cap adaptive store. And then you can
889
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.239
show that these best of the world adaptive decks are
890
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.440
just as rare and stupid as ARCon decks. Then we
891
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:11.599
can talk some trash again.
892
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.280
So when when she when Sheep talks about SaaS cap,
893
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.000
that is definitely a thing because SaaS is a range.
894
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.559
But there are certain decks that have the same range,
895
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.519
the same number, but they are drastically different and and
896
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.480
and that's when we place a cap. It's just whoever
897
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.559
has a wider collection and has tested it more, which
898
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:34.960
again you're talking a little bit about for adaptive, then
899
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.880
you can fault and correct.
900
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.639
Honestly, you can find that ARCon.
901
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.760
By definition, it's only the top of the top and
902
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:47.840
it keeps changing adaptive is there more of the all
903
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.760
decks are.
904
00:51:52.400 --> 00:52:02.000
Like that's the subjective part, Sheep, I mean you allowed objective.
905
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.639
You are absolutely correct. It is subjective. And they sub
906
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:09.159
definitely don't like playing ARCon and I sub definitely have
907
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.880
never enjoyed playing an adaptive game in my life.
908
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:20.440
Sorry, let's keep going dress. Yeah, I want to back
909
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.440
up for a second, because that fun is I beholder?
910
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.639
All right? So you agreed cats my dogs? Muh I
911
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.239
want to do cats? I don't know.
912
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:30.840
Uh.
913
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.920
So you agreed that there are a certain type of
914
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:40.800
deck that is more conducive to strong, strong adaptive decks.
915
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.119
So yeah, like what, I'm not an adaptive player. Tell
916
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.559
me what what's like top tier adaptive deck? Look like?
917
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.559
I am not a top tier adaptive player, but I
918
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.480
will tell you that if you go look at Mooseman,
919
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.480
dude that plays this like fifty SaaS thing that he
920
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:06.320
wrects everybody with and ADG plays Chandra of the I
921
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:09.840
don't know it's full name, but I've played against it
922
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.199
in CAGGI with and against it.
923
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:13.519
Now.
924
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:18.840
Decks with a lot of lines I think are the perfect,
925
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.039
you know, decks where every house maybe has game, or
926
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:25.920
one house looks terrible, but there's a way.
927
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:26.880
To use it to its best.
928
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.960
So you know, you're getting into the territory of looking
929
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.039
at a sealed deck and saying, like, you know, what's
930
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:33.440
the best that can squeeze.
931
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:33.360
Out of this?
932
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.440
You can pick and choose amongst men. Yeah, I mean
933
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:38.599
another thing that you get to do while you're playing
934
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.280
Adaptive is say, I have a deck in my collection
935
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:45.880
that is not arkon worthy, but it has a ton
936
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.320
of fun and interesting things that can do, and we
937
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.039
can play a skillful game with this like fun thing
938
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.199
that I'm bringing. So every time you sit down to play,
939
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:57.960
you never know where you're going to sit across from,
940
00:53:57.960 --> 00:53:59.920
and you're going like, oh, that's fun, all that's fun.
941
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:03.719
Can't you do that in Arcot? Why can't I Why
942
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:05.840
do you have to have bids to be able to
943
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.039
sit down across from somebody and agree to play a
944
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:14.599
game that is on a equal footy, Like I get
945
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.639
what you're saying, Like if you're only if your only
946
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:20.320
format that you can ever go and playing this game
947
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.599
is at a local store where all they ever play
948
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:29.199
is Crush your face Arcot, where everybody's always bringing Vault
949
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:32.480
Tour level art condext to play and you don't have them, Like,
950
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.519
this ain't gonna be fun. And if your only experience
951
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:43.079
with key Forge is playing through TCO, that's either a
952
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:47.519
real mess or you're playing in the you know, in
953
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.039
the competitive and it is top level arc on stuff.
954
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:54.440
Because people are practicing for what there is Like if
955
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:58.519
those are the only experiences you can have, Yeah, I
956
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:00.480
can see we're being new to the game.
957
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:01.199
Is is.
958
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:10.400
Tough or it's not necessarily easy to play in if
959
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:13.039
you have this like whole problem where you'll only play
960
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:17.280
your own decks, right, because I mean, especially online, that
961
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:18.880
is not acquirement.
962
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:20.280
Yeah.
963
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.519
So I want to thank you guys for letting me
964
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.079
come on and say something. And I think what I
965
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:30.280
would part, you know, end with is something like I
966
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:36.239
get that adaptive isn't everybody's famous favorite format, but I
967
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:41.880
feel like it's one worth promoting because it's a healthy, welcoming,
968
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.719
accessible way to get more people to come play.
969
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.840
For But I don't think that's true.
970
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:49.199
Not for newbies.
971
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:50.840
I don't mean for newbies, I don't mean for like
972
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:51.679
brand new people.
973
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:56.239
Here's here's another classic argument I've had with adaptive is
974
00:55:56.519 --> 00:56:01.840
so an ARCon Right, I am able to flex the resource,
975
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.480
at least in the past, not so much anymore. I
976
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.280
can flex the resource I have available to me, which
977
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:11.559
is my money. Right, I can buy a retarded deck,
978
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:15.119
or I can buy a lot of sealed product and
979
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.880
try to open something, right, And this is a resource
980
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.920
that I have available to me, and that's how I
981
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.679
can use it to improve my results in this game.
982
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:31.239
I understand not everybody gets to do that, right, And
983
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:36.840
Adaptive often and to a great extent, allows somebody to
984
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.400
flex the fact that they have far more time to
985
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.719
invest in learning the one deck they play, which I
986
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:48.039
don't have. I don't have the ability to sit down
987
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:51.199
and put a thousand reps on a deck and find
988
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:55.679
a deck that's sort of one, right, So it's it
989
00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:59.239
is another. It is just flexing a different thing that
990
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.519
not everybody has available to them.
991
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.840
And that's why both of those formats are complimentary to me.
992
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.599
And and I've never never said Adaptives shouldn't be played.
993
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:14.079
I've said I want nothing to do with Adaptive. Well
994
00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:17.679
I have changed, I've changed my tune on Adaptive to
995
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:20.719
the extent of like in my I don't think Alliance
996
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.760
should be played. But now there's people who want to
997
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.880
play Alliance, and why take it away? Same thing, the
998
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:27.840
same you know, the other six people who want to
999
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.559
play Adaptive can go over in the other corner. Peple
1000
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:31.760
want to play a lot, it's going to go on
1001
00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:34.199
that corner. And I have no problem with that.
1002
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:38.119
Like because seven people who want to play Shredder all
1003
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.000
joined in the middle.
1004
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.440
Over there, it's just playing Seal.
1005
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:44.840
And then we're all going to get together to play
1006
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:46.920
Sealed now, right, because that's the only thing in this
1007
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:51.559
game that isn't some diseased monster, and even that's got
1008
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:59.320
issues currently. Yeah, it's it's it's at least fun still,
1009
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.119
at least, I think, Henny.
1010
00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.559
I mean, the only way you're ever gonna honestly skill
1011
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:12.719
test anything is if for Sealed we are all given
1012
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:16.679
the same deck, and then that's just a skilled test
1013
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:18.840
of who who's r G came out better.
1014
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.159
But that's exactly it is.
1015
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:28.440
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's literally the only way I
1016
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:29.840
play the same deck.
1017
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.840
And then it's timing. So so let me highlight something
1018
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:39.480
that I think I think I heard, and you guys
1019
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.719
can tell me if this is is right or wrong.
1020
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:50.639
It sound a little bit like hey, for ARCon and
1021
00:58:50.639 --> 00:58:58.119
and Alliance there. It engages with the sort of person
1022
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:06.320
who wants to hunt down find either within their own
1023
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:11.480
collection or you know, purchase a deck or pods or
1024
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:15.320
whatever that they think is going to be the best
1025
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:23.599
and like that hunt and then honing their skills on
1026
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:30.599
that deck is the engaging part, whereas perhaps adaptive, it's
1027
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:35.079
about folks saying well, I just want to bring a
1028
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:41.519
deck I enjoy and I like m and find a
1029
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:47.239
way to make that a competitive style event. Yeah, which
1030
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.000
is like the opposite direction. Is that fair?
1031
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.800
I think that's I think that's fair. And to me,
1032
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.280
it's like it creates another space. We have three and
1033
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.159
a half million key Fords, and so many of them
1034
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:05.840
are just crying out like play me, no, no, there,
1035
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:07.159
shred me.
1036
01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.800
You're really wrong. You're missing this shape. It is pass
1037
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.480
it to Pete.
1038
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:19.920
Pete piles, that's what they are.
1039
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.679
Yeah, Pete's piles. I sent Pete some fodder.
1040
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.559
We give Pete fodder on a weekly basis, so get
1041
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:32.639
on our level. We just go, well, this is garbage, Pete.
1042
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:35.760
So I still think that key Forge and the sealed
1043
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:39.840
environment is a good investment, and it's investment for time.
1044
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:44.159
Like we're coming out, you're playing with friends. If you're
1045
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:46.599
going ahead and doing another social activity, whether that's going
1046
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.920
to a bar or going ahead and grabbing dinner or
1047
01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.920
going ahead and going to a movie, you would pay
1048
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.679
for that same amount. And so in that manner, key
1049
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:58.280
Forge is a really good investment of time. But most
1050
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.480
of these decks equate to just being middling decks that
1051
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:03.559
they're fine if you want to bring out and play
1052
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:06.639
against some of your friends. But again, this is a
1053
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.840
competitive podcast, and so the idea is to have something
1054
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.320
that's competitive the range, and Garfield himself has said this,
1055
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.280
there was a it was not intending for this game
1056
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:19.440
to be balanced. So as soon as you hear that
1057
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.840
you have decks that have a wide range, it's just
1058
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.000
depending on how are you going ahead and playing to
1059
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:30.480
that range. Are you looking for the most broken deck ARCon,
1060
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:33.159
are you looking for individual pods that you can put
1061
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:37.920
together alliance or are you looking for a deck that
1062
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.239
is quirky that you personally have an attachment to that
1063
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.280
can do some very unique things adaptive?
1064
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.760
Yep, yeah, so looking for a deck? Oh sorry, you
1065
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:50.559
got ahead cuts with that?
1066
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:53.440
Oh I'm just agree yeah, go ahead?
1067
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:55.199
Okright, okay, So all right, so I have a question,
1068
01:01:55.280 --> 01:02:01.280
so looking for a deck. Would it be correct in
1069
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:07.119
your opinion to say that most adaptive players are looking
1070
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.280
for a deck within their own collection, or do a
1071
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.719
significant number of adoptive players, like kind of Archon style,
1072
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.719
go hunting for a deck that they think meets like
1073
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:18.800
whatever criteria.
1074
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:28.000
In my experience, people find a deck and go, oh,
1075
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.840
this is a gem. Oh I love this deck. Oh
1076
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.880
I've got fifty hundred reps on this deck. Oh maybe
1077
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.800
I should take this to adaptive like a deck that
1078
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:38.679
you like.
1079
01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:53.960
That question, mister drascoor adaptive is not a recognized legal format.
1080
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:59.519
But that that doesn't matter, It doesn't Can I finish
1081
01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.360
this state now? All right? Cool? Yes? No, I'm just
1082
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:08.360
gonna keep it to my cel phone and dogs.
1083
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:09.039
We gotcha, go.
1084
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:13.360
Ahead, wow because the dogs. Wow there you go go ahead.
1085
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:18.360
Lookie, I was gonna say most so, how many people
1086
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:19.440
are playing in Kagi?
1087
01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:24.079
We had a record number and I forgot what it was,
1088
01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:25.199
seventy two or whatever.
1089
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.519
Yeah, it has actually been increasing. I will give credit there.
1090
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:32.840
I think I'm gonna.
1091
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.039
Run KAGGI live at Vegas, by the way, are you going?
1092
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.639
No that I've heard live will be there.
1093
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.400
I will not be there. I will say that.
1094
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:46.159
The one of my issues with each of these formats is, again,
1095
01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:48.280
we have a very small community as a whole. When
1096
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.599
we show up for an event of key Forge, there's
1097
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.239
not three hundred or five hundred or eight hundred or
1098
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.920
one thousand players that we see in other card games,
1099
01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:00.960
we're sub one hundred. So to have these different little factions,
1100
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.960
in my opinion, creates more division versus, hey, we're all.
1101
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:05.760
Playing one game.
1102
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.960
And yes, it's great that you can individually play, but
1103
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:16.159
in my opinion, Alliance, ARCon, sealed and adaptive that can
1104
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.719
all be for your local store where your individual playgroup
1105
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:21.920
can go ahead and play and figure that out and
1106
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:25.199
have fun with whatever formats they want. But when we
1107
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.519
get into a larger environment, we should be playing sealed.
1108
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:33.599
That's really where it's at. You can play ARCon. It
1109
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:37.480
just when we get splits and we're smaller and smaller
1110
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:41.079
and smaller demographic, it just it doesn't make sense to me.
1111
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:42.719
But that's my two cents.
1112
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:50.199
I think I think the increase is has to do
1113
01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:57.960
with how you know, and my opinion poor the world
1114
01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:03.360
of ARCon and Alliance has become. I might be that well,
1115
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:03.880
I don't know.
1116
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:07.159
I think it's part that an Alliance.
1117
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:15.800
Format is awful, but like it is the rampant craziness
1118
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:21.760
and quality of decks that has happened, is that the
1119
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.719
instability that there is in those formats, which some people
1120
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:30.719
think is good, but ultimately doesn't actually sit well with
1121
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:31.760
long term players.
1122
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:33.400
Yeah, I agree with that.
1123
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:35.840
I do think that there's two other components that need
1124
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.440
to be taken in consideration. One of those being that
1125
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.840
we have a smaller community, and so you have players
1126
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:43.639
who are just looking to play some of those decks
1127
01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.159
that can't be played again in Arkon and they don't
1128
01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.239
have a pod for Alliance. But also there has been
1129
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:53.599
a nice group of people who've come together who've put
1130
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:56.519
forward the time and effort to build the community that
1131
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.440
is Adaptive. So I think all three of those parts
1132
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.840
make for an increase and people wanting to go ahead
1133
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:05.960
and join. People have talked about it, and then they've
1134
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:07.920
put in the time and effort, and if you show
1135
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.440
up again weekly or through the events online, then yes
1136
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.719
it'll grow. But I give real credit to the organizers
1137
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:19.320
who have gone ahead and increase the numbers Vegas.
1138
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.519
I'm going to play Stealed ARCon and Adaptive.
1139
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:28.679
I'm going to Vegas, and I'm not registering for KeyForge.
1140
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:35.199
You're drinking, so that's because you're arriving late. You would
1141
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:36.320
play Sealed, right, Yeah?
1142
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:38.360
Yeah, had I got there in time for Sealed, I
1143
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:39.360
would have registered for that.
1144
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:49.079
The so so okay, so I I am sympathetic to
1145
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:52.360
the thought of, Hey, you know, I play a lot
1146
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:55.719
of sealed. It's my favorite. Sometimes I'll run across the
1147
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:59.199
seal deck where I'm like, this is just like a
1148
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:03.679
lot of fun to play, but it's not good enough
1149
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:05.880
to do something, you know, to take to a.
1150
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:08.079
R.
1151
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:14.480
Connor Alliance format. So I could see the allure of
1152
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:19.559
while give me a format that I could still play
1153
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.239
this deck. Like that thought makes sense to me. I guess,
1154
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.639
so let's hold me back. Well, one, I just play
1155
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:30.440
more sealed, right, that's the real answer. But I guess
1156
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:36.199
the secondary answer is I don't know that I love
1157
01:07:37.519 --> 01:07:40.480
chains and chain bidding, Like do I want to invest
1158
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.840
in the chain bidding skill, which is like a really
1159
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:50.880
important part of adaptive Like I enjoy it when I
1160
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:55.639
do it now and then. But if I was like,
1161
01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:02.800
can I tell you my secret? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, okay.
1162
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.440
Sheep said, less than five chains almost doesn't matter, and
1163
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:08.239
you just got to figure out what twelve chains is worth,
1164
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:14.519
like sixty five SaaS coda up against gr eighty eight nonsense,
1165
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.319
and then everything in between. Just use your gut. That'll
1166
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:22.119
get you through ninety percent of adaptive games. You don't
1167
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:25.880
really have to go into this like micro but it's it's.
1168
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:29.520
And that is exactly why I could win in adaptive
1169
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:32.119
is because yeah, just throwing the gut at it.
1170
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.760
Trust your gut, and when we have a lot of
1171
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:40.039
play experience, it gives it advantage. But the problem is
1172
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.159
is that you want to really look at the individual
1173
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:44.960
matchup and if I'm bringing a board heavy deck, I'm
1174
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.159
looking to see are you how many board clears are
1175
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:51.399
you bringing? Like all of those nuances are things that
1176
01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.640
have to be kept in mind. But yeah, and you
1177
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:57.920
can have some knowledge and basis around it, and.
1178
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.520
So you'll you'll wipe the floor with me using my
1179
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.880
gut and that's good. I mean, I think I think
1180
01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:03.960
that should be rewarded.
1181
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:07.079
I would just prefer to speed up the game. I know,
1182
01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:08.000
I can hear.
1183
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:13.319
The can't afford to be a flower.
1184
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:19.079
Okay in the chat and instead actually one you're looking
1185
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:22.520
at multiple games, so that that is a deficit. You
1186
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:26.079
can play single game adaptive, which again gives more leniency
1187
01:09:26.159 --> 01:09:29.640
to players who have a larger card pool knowledge base.
1188
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.520
But I would much rather see instead of chains where
1189
01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:35.640
we're slowing the game down. My opponent is going to
1190
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:38.439
head and drawing an extra card, which is a very
1191
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:41.600
different dynamic, but something to speed up the game of
1192
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:47.640
extra cards, which again, but that also changes which decks
1193
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:51.319
become more viable for adaptive and then that's that's an
1194
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:54.319
important thing to be able to keep in mind. How
1195
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:57.760
I relate adaptive is when you first come out to
1196
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:01.319
ARCon you may be playing tabletip with your buddy and
1197
01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:04.199
you may have this deck that just keeps winning, it
1198
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:07.319
keeps stomping, you really have fun with it. I still
1199
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.720
remember my first CODA deck that I had fun with
1200
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.279
with my wife. We were playing across the table. It
1201
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.079
had twenty four creatures, and then I brought it to
1202
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.079
what was essentially local p at that time and got
1203
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.960
stomped because the meta that was in the home was
1204
01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.800
very very different than what we would see anywhere else.
1205
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:33.239
And adaptive help. It was action based steel and that mattered.
1206
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.000
But when you see that.
1207
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:39.119
Fair and balanced deck, I don't want to hear anything
1208
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:39.680
about it.
1209
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:44.359
But what I'm saying is adaptive to me still has
1210
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.119
that little bit of feel, is that people have some
1211
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:51.720
real affinity towards certain decks. They love them, but you
1212
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:55.319
bring them into an actual environment where you have some
1213
01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:59.960
competitive adaptive players and that really slims or cuts certain people.
1214
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:04.960
And again, similar to ARCon, you see certain players making
1215
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.960
Top eight consistently adaptive of the same thing. It just
1216
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:11.359
seems to be a different set of I won't say
1217
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.439
different set of people, but a different group of decks.
1218
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:15.760
That are kind of being able to make it to
1219
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:16.159
the top.
1220
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:19.239
And it partially because of who's playing and what decks
1221
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:19.720
they're playing.
1222
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.600
I want to share this one dress I did pay
1223
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.439
for a non ARCon deck. Marty sold me this deck
1224
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:30.000
that I put in the chat Incisive to you of
1225
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:34.279
the Rock. It's Cursed Relic, it has Flints Map, it
1226
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.720
has triple Daughter and articulated ren This deck is super
1227
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.840
fun to play, and it's it's not obviously doing one
1228
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:46.119
exact you know thing. It's got all these piece parts
1229
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:49.479
that are like moving in different directions and uh yeah,
1230
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:51.760
I think I think this is an example of a
1231
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.760
deck that can kind of capture you and you'll spend
1232
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:54.560
a lot of time with it.
1233
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:58.439
Yeah, but notice your joy even when you're talking about it.
1234
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.399
You are having fun. And that's what I want to
1235
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:03.239
be able to see and that that should be with
1236
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:05.199
a sealed deck. It's a real bummer when you open
1237
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.239
a sealed stinker and you're like, uh, I don't want
1238
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.920
to play this again. The same thing happens when you
1239
01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:11.520
show up with an arc on deck and then you're
1240
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:15.159
just getting blown out. In the old days, you know
1241
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.079
you had it wasn't just O two, but you just
1242
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:20.479
kept playing. But you're playing other people who are at
1243
01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:25.479
your same level essentially. But I love hearing your excitement
1244
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.199
over this deck. And it doesn't need to be a
1245
01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:30.439
big SaaS number, but it has some it has some tools.
1246
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:32.760
I mean, they need a format where you can only
1247
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:35.840
play double or tan decks. That's what we need.
1248
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:39.279
We can't have that format because you own them all.
1249
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:50.000
Well, I mean I can't help you aren't for double,
1250
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:55.039
but you that is not true.
1251
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:56.479
Name one.
1252
01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.439
I don't know. I sold one back in the past.
1253
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:00.319
Mh.
1254
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:05.479
One more thing to sell you on a deck, One
1255
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.800
more thing, one less. When you sit down to play
1256
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:11.960
and it ends up that you're playing the other deck
1257
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:14.920
and you see the person across from you do something
1258
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.000
cool with your deck that you've never seen before. That's
1259
01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:20.560
key forge magic. I love that part.
1260
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:28.680
Well I do you think? I mean yeah?
1261
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:32.439
Then yeah, people play your deck online and stuff. Yeah, yeah,
1262
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:34.840
it doesn't hurt to see other people do things with
1263
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:35.319
your deck.
1264
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:39.119
Absolutely, it gives you a different perspective. What I like
1265
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:40.960
is regardless.
1266
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.399
Of what format you're playing close games. Honestly, when it's
1267
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.600
two keys to two keys and you're pushing and it's
1268
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.319
going back and forth, those are the games and it
1269
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:52.920
doesn't matter what format it is. So that's why it's
1270
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:55.960
so important that we test these decks and we make
1271
01:13:56.039 --> 01:14:01.119
sure that they are more the range is not as
1272
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.720
drastic as we've seen with some of the more recent.
1273
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:08.079
Or we could just not make busted busted cards.
1274
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:11.920
Crazy love busted busted cards.
1275
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.520
Not busted, just one busted, thank you.
1276
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:18.279
I don't need bus busted, just busted, fine, but fine.
1277
01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:22.520
Busted bust are exponential busted too far, sir, too far.
1278
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:30.239
I can do no cas dogs. You may get a
1279
01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.319
lot of folks coming out to play adaptive because they
1280
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:37.520
listen to us to be like, those guys are idiots opposite,
1281
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.079
uh yeah, and just do the opposite of what these
1282
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:44.000
fools say. I mean, that's definitely why our guest is
1283
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:47.199
here in the audience, right, you know, thousands idiots, what
1284
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:50.680
are they saying this time. Yeah, yeah, that's why most
1285
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:52.600
people listen to us. They're like, what are these morons
1286
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:53.239
talking about?
1287
01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:56.960
Adaptive is just another one of those formats that I
1288
01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.600
don't care for. It exists as long as I don't
1289
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.319
have to play it. Sure, isn't that?
1290
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:04.279
But that's everything. You're like, I don't care if this
1291
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:06.359
card game exists as long as it doesn't come by me.
1292
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:11.560
Well, yeah, that's that's how that's get along with life.
1293
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.760
I don't have to that's right. Things don't have to
1294
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:21.840
die just because I don't like them. Mm hmm, I
1295
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:23.319
mean something should die.
1296
01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:31.760
A little bit of sorry, go ahead.
1297
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:34.359
I was just I was just saying, thanks, thanks for
1298
01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.039
letting me come on and say a little something about it.
1299
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:44.800
So Bookie is a licensed troll, quadruple a troll.
1300
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.399
That's what I do best, talk ship and troll online.
1301
01:15:48.439 --> 01:15:50.479
These are too bad.
1302
01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:53.520
Those don't translate well into a resume somehow. But you know,
1303
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:56.920
professional ship talker isn't to.
1304
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:00.159
Help you in the hiring process. Professional talker isn't a
1305
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:02.760
job yet. It'll be one day, one day, a professional
1306
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:08.319
ship talker will be up there. Not today though. Well,
1307
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:11.920
but I think we've had enough fun for tonight. Can
1308
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:15.920
we all agree? Sure?
1309
01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:18.359
Yes, I have to get up.
1310
01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.079
Were you sufficiently violated tonight because we can go further?
1311
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.439
That was great? Did you just ask for consent? Is
1312
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:37.359
that what I'm hearing? What? No? Oh my goodness, you
1313
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:40.560
have to ask for you well, hold on number one.
1314
01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:45.800
At least he asked. Cats has warned right many times
1315
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.720
before we even started about what was going to happen
1316
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:49.199
here tonight.
1317
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:54.960
And I think I think Cats and Dogs did a
1318
01:16:55.079 --> 01:16:58.239
very nice job one being willing to come on and
1319
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.479
then to talk different points knowing that you are essentially
1320
01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:03.479
in talk radio going against you.
1321
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.640
So I thought you handled it very well. So well done,
1322
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:10.640
Thank you, thank you. But with that being said, it
1323
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:13.840
is all of our bedtimes. What have we learned today?
1324
01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:21.560
You'll be playing CC at KFC for the last chance qualifiers.
1325
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:28.439
Our com powers are stupid and adaptive. Still sucks. So
1326
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.359
I'm glad we all learned things that I just wanted
1327
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:33.159
to bullet pointed out at the end. So, but with
1328
01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:36.960
that being said, we will see you all next week.
1329
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:42.079
Happy chain binding everyone by the forge, be with you.
1330
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:45.479
Draft scores off the show. I didn't tell it's not
1331
01:17:45.560 --> 01:18:03.159
a good time to talk. Step die say step step
1332
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:07.039
down in the way to scrambled