Ski Party

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It's snow, a go-go, and another name for a ski party.
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And the craziest things happen to the snow.
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Frankie Avalon and Deborah Walley here, cool.
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And Dwayne, Hickman and Yvonne Craig, warm at 20 below.
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They all have a snowball in ski party.
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See, ski party, American International.
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We're not talking about actors.
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We mean a real monster.
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I brought her back.
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She'll live and I'll get her another body.
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I know tey’re gonna catch me, but don't let anyone see me like that.
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Please, Doctor, help me!
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Biologically speaking, it's of primary importance that man should want to mate.
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Hey, that’s right!
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You don't get all your kicks from surfing, do you?
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We want to be free to ride our machines without being hassled by the man.
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And we want to get loaded.
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You think you're going to make a slave of the world?
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I'll see you in Hell first!
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The American International Podcast.
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Are you ready?
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Hello and welcome. It's the American International podcast.
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I'm Cheryl Lightfoot.
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And I'm Jeff Markin.
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And today we're hitting the slopes for a ski party from 1965.
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Ski party was directed by Alan Rafkin from a screenplay by Robert Kaufman
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and produced by Gene Corman for American International Pictures.
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Ski party stars Frankie Avalon as Todd Armstrong.
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Dwayne Hickman as Craig Gamble, Deborah Walley as Linda Hughes,
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Yvonne Craig as Barbara Norris, Robert Q. Lewis as Mr. Pevney,
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Bobbi Shaw as Nita Elksberg, Aaron Kincaid as Freddie Carter,
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The Hondells as themselves.
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Also appearing are Steven Rogers as Jean,
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Patti Chandler as Janet, Michael Nader as Bobby, Sally Sachse as Indian,
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John Boyer as John, Mikki Jamison as Mikki,
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Mickey Dora as Mickey, Mary Hughes as Mary,
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Bill Sampson as Arthur, Luree Holmes as Luree,
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Lesley Gore as herself and James Brown an the Famous Flames as themselves.
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Nice. The ski party opens and we see a race downhill on skis.
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We get the American International logo and then the Hondells sing ski party
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over skiing, stock footage I imagine.
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The credits are in Comic Sans, which is an indication to me to not take this movie too seriously.
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There was a line in the song ski party that it catch my ear.
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It goes get some alcohol and put it under my hood.
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That sounds dangerous. That's how you get car fires.
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I thought the night skiing footage looked cool.
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It went from day to night and not that I'm a skier,
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but if I was, I might like skiing at night with the colored lights.
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Yeah, they were holding lanterns or something and the glow would kind of cool
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against the snow.
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The twilight.
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After the credits, we find ourselves in a college classroom.
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The class is fun without sex with Professor Sonya Roberts.
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I guess you play as Professor Sonya Roberts.
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I don't have to guess. I saw the movie.
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It's an unquited and net gunacello.
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In the class, there are a couple of students who look like Frankie Avalon and Dwayne Hickman,
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but they're actually Todd Armstrong and Craig Gamble.
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Which is which in this movie?
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Frankie Avalon is Todd Armstrong in this case and Dwayne Hickman is Craig Gamble.
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I had to write it down because we did another movie where that was reversed.
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Yeah, it was Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine where Frankie and Dwayne played
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characters of the opposite names.
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The same names, but they switched actors.
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And those aren't related at all.
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These movies are not connected in any other way.
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The subject is the disparate sexual peaks of men and women, although Professor Sonya Roberts calls
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them romantic peaks.
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Professor Roberts teaches that the female doesn't reach a romantic peak until her 35th year,
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whereas the male reaches their most romantic between the ages of 17 and 19,
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which presents certain social problems for the college male.
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Yes, and we all know that by romantic, she means sexual.
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This presents certain social problems, such as extreme anxiety, frustration, and tension.
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Horniness.
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After the class ends, Tad and Craig walk out of the building and decide that they need an older woman,
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someone to use AARP age, but one that looks good, hopefully.
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And then they see a classmate who has no problem with romantic peaks.
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This is Freddie Carter and he's got a whole gaggle of girls around him.
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Freddie asks which one of those girls will be lucky enough to buy him dinner tonight.
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Well, it's the one who wins the race to the locker room.
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Todd and Craig discuss with each other whether Freddie might share with his secret with them.
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Probably not they decide.
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Craig thinks they should ask him anyway.
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It will give him a reason to suck him.
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That's what John Wayne would do now Craig and Todd are in suits.
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Craig says that he and John Wayne use the same razor for shaving.
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Number five, and they see Freddie with his gaggle of girls once again.
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Now they're dressed for track.
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Todd and Craig just don't get what Freddie has and they don't.
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They're athletes, so they say.
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And Freddie's an athlete, so why aren't they pulling girls the same way?
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Todd realizes they've been playing in front of the girls while Freddie is playing with them.
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But enough bad news.
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Todd tells Craig he scored them both a second date with Barbara and Linda.
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Craig's ready to go tonight, but the day's actually two weeks from next Thursday.
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So now let's be two weeks from next Thursday because it's date night.
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Linda and Barbara are giggling in the backseat of the car.
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They're at a drive-in movie.
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Well, Todd and Craig are seated up front.
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I think I figured out at least part of their problem.
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They don't know how dates work.
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And they're watching some Italian film.
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Apparently there's some sort of love scene not that we get to see it.
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That makes the girls giggle.
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After the film, the four of them decide to go parking, although if they don't switch seats,
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I don't know how this is going to work.
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Todd's parking spot is blocked by another car.
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He goes up to the passenger window of that car,
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dash the driver to move, and low and behold,
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the driver is making out with Professor Sonya Roberts.
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She's dating a student.
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Well, they're both at their sexual peaks.
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She knows from once she speaks.
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Once parts, Todd and Craig leave the car to decide who gets to stay with the car
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and who gets to go for a walk with his date.
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I'm surprised they don't go with each other.
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That says the last time he and Linda took a walk
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and Craig and Barbara had the car.
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Craig's not sure it's how we remember it,
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but Todd tells them that that was when Craig tried to kiss Barbara,
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and she burnt his nose with her cigarette.
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Which refreshes his memory?
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Well, it would, wouldn't it?
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So Todd has Craig to meet him back here in 20 minutes.
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They negotiate and agree on 12 instead.
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They've taken up a really long time to synchronize their watches.
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And then they decide what the heck.
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There are only a few seconds off.
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So Todd gets the car.
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And then we get a montage of him attacking Linda.
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Set to silent movie music.
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I don't know how to describe it any better than that.
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The windshield wipers are going.
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The top is going up and down.
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Things slow down when Todd tries to go in for a kiss.
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And Linda just kind of laughs at him and says, you're kidding.
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That doesn't understand.
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He's a nice clean cut American boy with a C-plus average.
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But he realizes the problem is he's just not like Freddie.
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Linda doesn't feel for Todd, what she does for Freddie.
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She's Gaga over him like all the other girls are.
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And she can't really explain why.
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Just that Todd doesn't have it.
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Whatever it is.
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Now we're with Todd and Craig and their dorm room, I suppose.
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Craig is doing push-ups and Todd is doing squats as they discuss
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how they failed to get anywhere with the girls that night.
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Not only did they not get a kiss good night,
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they didn't even get to walk into the front door.
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Yep, they're losers.
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If he can be believed, Craig is at 2,194 push-ups and counting.
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Maybe that's the frustration going.
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Out the window, they hear Freddie driving up with his date,
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trying to drop her off.
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But she won't go.
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Todd yells out the window, "Leave her alone, you dirty young man, you."
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I think he's yelling at the wrong person.
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Freddie's trying to get Janet.
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The girl who's all over him to go in, but she says she just wants another five minutes with him.
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He tells her they're going on a ski week and they'll have plenty of time for this then.
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Oh sure, says Janet, along with Indian and Linda Hughes and Barbara Norris and all the rest of them.
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But Freddie is president of the ski club and it's his duty to go on this trip.
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Todd and Craig go over here this and Craig thinks after a week with Freddie,
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they'll never see Linda or Barbara again.
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But Todd wants to go on the trip.
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He tells Craig to start packing some warm clothes.
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Now's their chance to do a girl boy sport.
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Craig comes around in a grease, but there's one problem.
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Neither one of them can ski.
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But that's something they'll worry about once they get there.
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Now the bus is leaving for the ski trip and I guess Leslie Gorsnuck on board to sing
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Sunshine Lollipops and Reimbos.
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She's the on board entertainment.
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And she makes the kids sing along with her too.
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When she finishes the song, she takes a seat never to be seen again.
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No, it's a little weird, but it's not the weirdest cameo this movie has to offer.
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At the resort, the gang disembark from the bus and meet the neurotic hotel clerk, Mr. Pévney.
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He takes them inside the lodge and shows them the infirmary where three doctors set
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an average of nine broken bones a day.
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And there's loud paint screams coming from inside.
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He tells the group that he's received letters from all of the boys' fathers saying that
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the chaperones won't be necessary.
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The boys are delighted to hear this, but unfortunately the girls' parents didn't send any such
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letters, so they will be on the honor system.
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And it doesn't mean what Todd thinks it means.
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Evinny is going to divide the girls and boys into separate rooms, which I assume they would
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do anyways, but I guess they're on different sides of the lodge.
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As he's trying to give room assignments, he fumbles his clipboard and everything falls to the ground.
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The students try to help him pick everything up and Todd and Craig find a tape sent by Pévney
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to his psychiatrist.
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And Todd gets an idea he calls Operation Screwball.
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Operation Screwball starts right away as Craig starts asking questions to try and confuse Mr. Pévney.
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He turns to Pévney and asks if he's sure he's received a letter from his father because his
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father doesn't know how to write.
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It was weird stuff about his dad being married in the second grade and dropped out of school.
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And they couldn't figure out how old he was, either 18 or 23.
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It was all pre-poineless.
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And Pévney just basically gets frustrated and tells him all to go to their rooms.
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And as they are an attractive woman named Nita,
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struggles by in her swimsuit.
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And all the guys get excited.
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They're going to go for a swim too.
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The girls feeling rebuffed realize they have bikinis too, except for Indian.
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And Janet offers Indian her shoelaces because as she says, this is war.
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So the kids are now gathered at the pool dancing while Todd sings lots, lots more.
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And the kids kind of awkwardly gyrate.
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In a way, I guess you could call dancing.
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They're not that good.
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Two of the guys are talking with Nita.
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One of them's Bobby who's played by Michael Nader.
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I love seeing him this because I was a big fan of him in all my children.
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He played Dmitry.
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Just a little side note for anyone who ever watched soap operas.
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They're very appreciative of Nita because not only is she attractive,
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she always says, "Yah!"
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And never says, "No."
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It's not in the Swedish vocabulary.
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She's from Stockholm.
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And Pévney comes in to announce the ski lesson schedule.
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Advanced ski instruction begins in 52 minutes.
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And it's for the fellas only.
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So they can brush up for the big event.
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The women get to go to a beginner class only.
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And that's pretty sexist.
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Some of the women could be better than the men.
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And as we'll find out, some of the men can't even ski.
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So then we see that the group is taking a ski lift up the mountain.
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First Freddy is with a girl and she's all over him.
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Following them are Linda and Barbara and the next chair,
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wondering when they might get their turn with Freddy.
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And then we see Todd and Craig.
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They're clinging to each other in abject terror.
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And behind them, there's one guy who remarks,
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more or less to the camera, on their unusual closeness.
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Now with the top of the mountain and Craig and Todd seem ready to ski.
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Well, I wouldn't say Craig does.
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I think he's trying to back out because he's breakable.
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He admits he's a coward and refuses to go down.
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And just then a yorling polar bear skis passed.
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This is so absurd, but it's also one of my favorite parts of this movie.
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No explanation ever given.
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I think it does cause the time to do a double take,
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but he just goes with it.
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It's just something that's going to happen again and again in this movie for no reason whatsoever.
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Then Craig and Todd join the others for their instruction.
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The instructor who has a very German accent
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sends a couple of guys down the hill.
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They're demonstrating the ski rescue practice.
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One of them slides under the other with his head between his legs,
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picks the other guy up on his shoulder and then they go off.
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And this spooks Craig and Todd to such a degree that they basically scamper away.
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And the instructor just yells "Akutung" at them a lot, but they're gone.
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But they are closer to where the girls are having their lesson.
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They hear the sound of the girls laughing and look in to see how much more fun they're having.
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That's the way to learn, says Todd.
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Nice, easy and slow.
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A couple of lessons like that and they would be able to out ski pretty easily.
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I don't know why they weren't offered lessons by their status beginner or advanced
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instead of their gender.
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It should be no shame to not know how to ski and take beginner lessons.
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But Todd has a great idea.
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And last time I had a great idea, Craig was suspended for two semesters.
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So you know it's going to be good.
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Before he could finish that son, so however Todd and Craig are descending the stairs of the
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ski lodge dressed as women kind of wearing sweaters and wigs and headbands.
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They also have falsies, makeup and...
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Not a lot of makeup.
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They pretty much look like Frankie Evelyn and Celine Hickman with wigs on.
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Only the most undisturbing viewer would ever mistake them for anyone else.
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As they descend the stairway, they get a lot of attention,
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but it's not all positive.
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One girl passing them says, "Look at the competition."
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And another says, "I can't. I just had lunch."
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Then Craig and Todd practiced their girly voices.
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They're high and vaguely British.
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I didn't think they were remotely British.
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Well, I heard just a touch of it.
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It's like they're trying to imitate someone from Monty Python wearing a wig,
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but or Mrs. Doubtfire, not that they would have seen that at that point.
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Yeah, I would say Mrs. Doubtfire is a much closer match to how they talk.
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It sounds more like they're trying out some British slang maybe, but not the accents.
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Yeah, well, a lot of people think they're doing a British accent, and they aren't, and this is the case here.
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Well, now dressed convincingly as women.
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They join the girls who are headed out to ski.
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And because of those amazing accents they're using, they are able to convince them
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they're British exchange students.
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And Nita is the girls instructor.
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Let me get our second polar bear sighting.
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The Yodeling Bear skis down the hill.
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Now we see Nita trying to teach Jane, that's Todd's alias, to ski.
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And she ends up going down the slopes at top speed.
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Nora wants to help her, but as Linda points out she can't ski either.
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Linda calls Nita for help, but getting done goes after Jane herself.
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I guess Nita decides the best way to learn is by doing so she gives Craig as Nora a push,
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and he goes down the hill too.
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It doesn't actually look that bad, despite claiming to not know how.
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I mean his stunt double doesn't look that bad.
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How does Jane isn't doing that bad either?
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He's making a lot of noise, but he's staying upright as he goes down the hill and in between trees.
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He's bargaining with God, I guess, that he'll do all these things if he can make it down alive.
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Pretty on the other hand, it seems like an old pro.
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He's on his skis while reading Casanova his private life.
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But he tosses the book over his shoulders because there's no pictures.
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And Craig, as Nora crashes into him,
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ready is immediately smitten with a high-pitched voice corner.
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With a five o'clock shadow.
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I think what he likes about her is that she doesn't like him.
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Immediately, Nora pushes him away physically and verbally.
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And this is catnip to Freddy.
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Meanwhile, Todd's last Jane is still going down the hill until he crashes into a tree.
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Yep, and Deborah Wally stunt double finds him.
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Oh, Jane, Linda laughs.
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Twist Jane replies, "I must have taken a wrong turn."
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So now we're at another scene.
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Linda and Jane catch Nora on Freddy's back.
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He got fresh with her and she's got him in a half-melted.
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Linda just can't believe that anyone would not want to be with Freddy.
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But Nora isn't interested.
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But Freddy is still interested in Nora.
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Oh, jeez, Linda, can't you see me want to be alone?
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Nora continues voicing her displeasure and Freddy's attention.
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Linda tells Nora that all the girls at school want to get with Freddy.
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So she doesn't understand why Nora is taking issue with him.
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Then she holds Nora off for a talk, leaving Jane alone with Freddy.
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Freddy asks Jane about British girls and Jane Karate traps him playfully.
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And then we get a polar bear ice skating cameo.
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It's our third.
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So Linda's telling Nora, who was really Craig, how women in America take care of their men.
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But first she has Nora swear so help me Liz Taylor.
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That she'll never tell any male person this privileged information.
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But when she tells Nora the secret, the film is commuted at the government's request.
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So it's unknown to the viewing audience what she related.
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There's a weird message about in the interest of furthering the population explosion.
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This information will not be divulged.
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And I at first didn't understand this.
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But you explained to me that this is how Linda and other women trick men into getting with them.
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I guess marrying them.
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And we don't want them men to find out their little girl secrets.
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Exactly.
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Because then they beyond us.
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That's just so corny.
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So Nora asked if Linda would share this information with Jane too.
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She's a woman, isn't she?
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Nora whistles over to Jane who is still with Freddie.
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Freddie tells Jane he hopes they can be friends.
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If only you meant that.
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That's not the way you looked at Nora.
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Freddie agrees with Nora.
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It's different.
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And he offers Jane a handshake to prove their friendship.
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And Jane shakes his hand with her kung fu grip.
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Freddie says, "Hey, I said I was sorry."
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[Music]
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Now we find Craig and Barbara and Todd and Linda
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writing in a two horse open sleigh singing "Painting the Town."
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Or once they're sitting boy girl, boy girl.
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Craig kisses Barbara and they just need to have a strange conversation.
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Barbara says after that kiss he's going to have to marry her now.
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Craig says he hears bells but Barbara explains that's just the sleigh bells.
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Craig says that he would marry Barbara tomorrow if he could only get a raise.
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She wonders that he has a job he's in college.
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He says no in my allowance.
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And they admit that they kind of like each other.
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And they exchange a bunch of really weird one liners.
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Craig says that he really does like her and Barbara says we'll see.
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Craig calls her on this and she says she saw Barbara Stanwick say that in the movie once
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and she ended up with Carrie Grant.
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Craig informs Barbara that she can be prettier than him but not funnier.
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And that's kind of a severe restriction for this character to give.
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In the back of the sleigh Todd tells Linda he'd like her to be his girl but she tells him he's
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too anxious.
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She doesn't got to do anything.
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Yes, for what he's doing wrong but he already knows the answer everything.
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He wants Linda to tell him exactly how to get a girl like her to want him.
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And Linda says that she'd never tell a guy that but she would tell another girl.
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Todd thinks that we may not too caddy to share their secrets but Linda says well no just today
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I started to tell two English girls the secret.
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So Todd asks if she's going to be telling these two English girls more tomorrow.
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Actually says Linda she had planned on waiting them over for Coco after the sleigh ride
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but she doesn't know where they live.
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Todd offers that if he sees them he'll tell them the head on over.
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Oh good says Linda they were really lots of fun.
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More than Craig and me how does.
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Linda assures him that it's in a different way.
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In their room Deborah Wally takes the lead on the song Will Never Change Them
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as the other girls but not Barbara singing dance.
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Besides Linda Janet Indian and Luri are all in the room.
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As are Jane and Nora.
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If they come in start bopping along with the music.
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Once the song is over and it's safe Barbara comes in with some Coco.
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And now it's time for girl talk.
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Barbara describes how she taught that Craig gambler less than when he tried to kiss her.
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She gets more detail on that cigarette on the nose story.
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Yeah and it kind of sounds like a hostage situation.
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He tried to kiss her and she didn't want to so he locked the car doors and tried to tie her hands behind
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her with her hair ribbon.
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Man in a different movie this would be the start of a killing spree like true crime podcast.
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But when he tried to kiss her again she let him and this time she had that little cigarette in her mouth
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which causes laughter to erupt amongst all the girls except for Nora and Jane.
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Craig might be seeing things from another perspective for once.
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But how do you not know if somebody's smoking a cigarette when you go in for a kiss?
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Then the other girls take turns telling their tales.
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And one of them Indian says that one boy who got fresh with her will be out of jail in two years.
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I mean what are these girls going through?
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I guess we did see some of it.
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Maybe they should be talking to Freddie.
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He's the one that could really relate to that.
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Eventually Jane slash Todd says it's getting late and they've got to be going.
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As they're leaving a couple of pillows are thrown their way.
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Hello fight.
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Shall we ask Jane?
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Do you have to ask says Nora?
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Then we cut to the aftermath of the pull of fight.
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Others everywhere.
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Others everywhere and the girls seem to have lost to the British exchange students.
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UK one, US nothing.
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Linda asked them to turn out the lights when they go.
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But as they're leaving Mr. Pemney locks them in for the night.
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From the outside.
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Is this not some kind of fire hazard?
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Well he did say that they would be locked in to ensure the honor system that they were going to be put on.
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I guess their chastity is more important than their physical help.
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Greg asked what they're going to do now.
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That turns the face to the camera.
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Greg, what's the average age of our audience?
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15 says Greg.
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Out commands Todd.
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They think out the window because what they want to do is an appropriate for a 15-year-old audience.
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And now I suppose it's the next day.
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In the lobby at the front desk Mr. Pemney is taking a call from a former guest who's missing some
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items of clothing that she left behind.
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And you can guess which articles those might be.
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Wigs, letters and headbands I would guess.
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Yep.
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And probably Braziers and Wolfs Breast.
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Then Todd and Craig as Jane and Nora come down the stairs.
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Craig is complaining that he just wants to learn how to ski so he can ditch the drag and spend some time with Barbara.
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He's tired of this dime-stored sum like at Hot Routine.
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How to sure is him that today is the last day they'll have to do this as soon as they finish those ski lessons.
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They pass Pemney who's still on the phone.
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Once they're outside, Todd asked Craig for his brunette wig.
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Operation screwball needs it to make Pemney crack into a million pieces.
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Todd puts his own blonde wig under his sweater and then don's Craig.
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He walks over to the desk and makes Pemney notice them with the brunette wig on.
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Then he disappears up the stairs for a little bit, swaps Wigs and returns so that now Pemney sees him
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as a blonde, same face, different hair.
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And Pemney is befuddled.
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He thought he was getting better.
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And now we're at the end of the I did erad apparently as Nita is delivered via dog sled to the ski lesson.
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Adam Craig still dressed as Jane and Nora.
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Speak with her. They're discussing the difference between the three of them being European girls
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and the American girls.
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Nita tells how they do things in Sweden.
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And apparently it involves very little talking and a lot of doing.
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If you know what I mean.
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Jane asks Nita if she has a friend.
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Nita's a little confused but Jane explains like she and Nora are friends.
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And Nita has a friend in town named Helga.
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Todd gets an idea from this and he calls the Nodable.
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He's going to go back to the lodge and ditch his wig.
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He thinks he's figured out that girls only want boys who want other girls.
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So if he, Todd gets with Nita and Craig gets with her friend,
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Helga will then Linda and Barbara will be jealous enough to notice and want them back.
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But it would look suspicious if they both leave and come back as Todd and Craig.
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So Todd's going to go first.
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Craig says okay but he gets Nita.
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Todd says no.
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Craig gets Helga.
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But what if she's a dog?
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Todd raises the pitch of his voice and calls up.
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Nita tells about her friend.
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00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,200
Nita replies that she's got a great personality.
473
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,560
She's loads of fun.
474
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,760
She's a dog says Craig.
475
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Todd takes off and then Craig tells the audience to go have a cook or something
476
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,120
because nothing's going to happen in the next 15 minutes.
477
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,040
But he spoke too soon.
478
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,720
Birdie is there and he's brought a toboggan and some hot cocoa and a thermos.
479
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,800
He intends to woo Nora and it's kind of starting to work I think.
480
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,640
He convinces her to get on the toboggan and through a bit of misadventure.
481
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,960
And they're hurtling down the mountain alone.
482
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,160
That on purpose he gives her a push but then he loses a balance.
483
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,360
Well I do call it misadventure.
484
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:01,720
And Nora obliviously heads down the hill alone.
485
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,640
Chattering to ready the whole way.
486
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,360
Todd has reached the lodge and notices that
487
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,600
Pevni has fallen asleep on his feet at the desk.
488
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,520
So Todd finally places the blonde wig on Pevni's head.
489
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,000
Meanwhile Nora continues her descent down the hill and she flies over a ski jump.
490
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Well she sees Bobby judging by on his skis and then she realizes she's on the ski jump
491
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,560
and starts to panic before crashing.
492
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,640
At the lodge Pevni is now awake.
493
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080
He's writing down the details of the dream he just had.
494
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,680
It's a recurring dream whereas the mommy wished he was a girl instead of a boy.
495
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,680
He has yet to notice the blonde wig on his head.
496
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,680
A girl comes up to the counter to buy a couple of stamps and when she looks up and sees the
497
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,360
rug on Pevni's head she screams.
498
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,000
They're really unconvincing scream too.
499
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,120
And Pevni runs outside excited to tell anyone who will listen to his mother's dream it come true.
500
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,000
He's a girl now.
501
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,600
He runs in a crag who is still dressed as Nora.
502
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,360
Pevni why you he asks.
503
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,120
Pevni yells out it's contagious and runs away.
504
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,560
And then we see the polar bear again.
505
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,920
He yells his way out of a shed and delivers a mug of cocoa to Anita and wolf whistles at one of the other girls.
506
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
Everyone's on picnic benches in the snow having a little snack.
507
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Again Todd notices the polar bear but decides not to mention it.
508
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,600
He's quizzing Anita about life above the Arctic Circle.
509
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,800
And what they do when it's dark for eight months of the year.
510
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,360
Anita is strongly hinting that sweets do nothing but have sex for eight months of the year.
511
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,200
And Todd likes the sound of that.
512
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,720
At the next table, Linda and Barbara are rumbling about how Todd is pretended to be vice president of the
513
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520
ski club to get a story on Anita for the school paper.
514
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,680
That tells Anita he needs to get a picture of her.
515
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,920
Anita says she has one in her room and she offers to bring it to dinner but Todd says that's okay.
516
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,680
He hates looking at pictures while he's eating.
517
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,360
So she says she can give it to him after dinner in the lounge by the fire.
518
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Todd repeats this plan loud enough for Linda to hear.
519
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,400
He noticed that his act was working and he's really leaning into it.
520
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,800
So that evening in the lounge all the kids are there,
521
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,920
most are dancing.
522
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,920
They're all around a roaring fire.
523
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,360
She's in a large hearth.
524
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,880
When suddenly the doors blow open.
525
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,640
It's the ski patrol but not one you've ever seen before.
526
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,680
Led by James Brown they bring in the frozen pevney.
527
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,200
They also have three St. Bernard's and they each have one of the barrels around their neck.
528
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,920
And all of them have mixed drinks in them.
529
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,320
And the kids are kind of excited about this.
530
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,040
The kids identify pevney but the leader of the ski patrol thought it was the abominable snow girl.
531
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,920
Yeah, we still intact.
532
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,720
He doesn't introduce himself but Barbara recognizes him as James Brown
533
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,480
and the other three as the famous flames.
534
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,640
And the man that he'd do a song.
535
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000
He no sooner agrees than starts breaking into I feel good.
536
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,240
All the kids dance or otherwise clap along as the song plays out.
537
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,600
As the song ends James Brown slides off the door.
538
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,120
The famous flames had left earlier.
539
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,440
They leave their coats behind.
540
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,000
He just sort of like shuffles backwards out the door.
541
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,240
This has got to be the best musical cameo in any movie I've ever seen.
542
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Later all the kids are sitting around.
543
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Nobody's dancing anymore.
544
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,120
Had a need or playing cards.
545
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,240
Freddie is lamenting that Nora has lost somewhere out in the snow.
546
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,280
And Linda is sure Freddie that Nora will be fine.
547
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Are we sitting on the couch with Craig and feeling that she knows where Nora is?
548
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,920
She was seen going into Craig's room and she's probably there now.
549
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Frank says that he and Todd like European chicks and Barbara stomps off.
550
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,960
Freddie asks Craig why he's smiling.
551
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,760
You heard Barbara.
552
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,520
I'm having a big thing with myself.
553
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:22,840
What?
554
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,440
Nevermind says Craig.
555
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,360
Freddie goes over to Todd to taunt them about coming up to the ski lodge
556
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,680
and not ever skiing, not even once.
557
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,600
That says he was bang on going out tomorrow
558
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760
but Freddie reminds him that tomorrow was the big competition.
559
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,600
Okay the next day says Todd.
560
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,760
We're going home the next day says Freddie.
561
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Freddie calls Todd a chicken.
562
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,440
And Nita asks is it true? Are you afraid to jump?
563
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Not Todd's caught in a bind.
564
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,840
Nita suggests Todd could enter the competition.
565
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,720
She likes winners.
566
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,880
She thinks that he could win.
567
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,360
And if he does, she says she'll reward him with a game of spin the bottle back at her place.
568
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:57,800
It's her favorite American game.
569
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,880
And that's enough for Todd to agree to risk life and limb.
570
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,320
Linda's been watching and she finds this very hurtful.
571
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,360
Linda tells Todd that she hates him and she hopes he wins.
572
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,640
And then Freddie says we who are about to watch you die salute you.
573
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,440
And he does a salute now that they're alone.
574
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,400
Todd asks Craig what choice did he have?
575
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,200
He's got to do this.
576
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Later we see that Craig is sneaking a container of helium to his room.
577
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,600
He never from a weather balloon that was going to be sent up apparently.
578
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,640
They send one up every day.
579
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,120
In their room Todd is in a wetsuit and Craig straps the helium tank on
580
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,600
to Todd saying that he hopes it will work.
581
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Why not says Todd it works in movies.
582
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,880
And now we're down at the bottom of the ski jump
583
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,920
where everyone's supposed to land and Pavanese running the show.
584
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,600
All the kids are in the audience watching the action.
585
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Pavanese through an intercom of some kind tells Freddie that he's up next.
586
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Pavanese fires a gun into the air to signal if ready to start
587
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,520
and Freddie comes down the hill and jumps 236 feet in the standsland and Barbara plot.
588
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240
Nita is there too sitting with Craig.
589
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720
Gina's up next and he jumps 234 feet.
590
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440
And now it's Todd Armstrong's turn.
591
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,400
If up at the top alone he preps his helium tank and then he heads down.
592
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Just as he makes the jump he deploys the helium tank.
593
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,120
It blows up his coat and he goes up really really high like a balloon.
594
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,960
He wonders if President Johnson will want to talk to him when he comes down.
595
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,880
Nita asks why it looks so fat up there and Craig says
596
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280
because he likes to have a big breakfast before ski jumps.
597
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,120
Nita yells out for Todd to pull the string.
598
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,040
But Todd can't find it.
599
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,240
Craig asks Pavanese what to do and Pavanese predicts it.
600
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,920
Well once he floats out to the coast radar will pick him up and some jets can shoot him down.
601
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920
This inspires Craig.
602
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,600
So Craig grabs Pavanese stutter pistol to try to shoot Pad down himself.
603
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,680
The first shot misses but the second one is successful and it's hitting its target.
604
00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:00,760
He pops and starts spiraling downward and crashes bearing himself in the ground.
605
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,960
A small crowd of kids runs up to him including Linda Barbara and Craig.
606
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,800
I think it's broken says Todd.
607
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Craig looks at his ski.
608
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,040
Yes it's broken.
609
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,720
Not that my leg.
610
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,440
Ow!
611
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Craig agrees that his leg is broken as well.
612
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,880
I'm surprised they're not both broken and a lot more besides.
613
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,480
How many hundreds of feet do you think he fell?
614
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Like he jumped out of a crop duster.
615
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,080
So now we see Linda Barbara and Craig waiting outside the infirmary
616
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,880
where Todd is owing in pain from the other side of the door.
617
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160
And he's afraid that this is going to mess up his date with Nita tonight.
618
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,880
In their room to Craig's surprise,
619
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Todd is determined to hobble over to Nita.
620
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,960
She even left him a map to her place.
621
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,880
He's got his leg in a full cast now.
622
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Yeah.
623
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,000
He reminds Craig that he used to call Linda to make sure that she knows that he is going over there
624
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,120
and then he limps away.
625
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,800
He's supposed to wait 10 minutes but as soon as Todd's out the door, Craig makes the call.
626
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Linda answers and Craig subtly tells her that Todd took his bottle and left.
627
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,640
He didn't ask to speak to Barbara but Barbara doesn't want to talk to Craig.
628
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,440
He's going to reject it.
629
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Craig walks across the room and notices his Nora wig.
630
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,080
He puts it on and goes to the phone. He asks for room 206.
631
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,680
Then he raises the pitch of his voice.
632
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,360
Hello, Freddie. Is that you?
633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,960
I bet I can't do false idols anymore.
634
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,200
I don't think I could even do that, Jeff.
635
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:16,520
And now we're with Todd and his broken leg as they make the miles long trek to Nita's in the snow.
636
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,280
It's actually blizzling right now.
637
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,480
It's quite the journey.
638
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,960
Once he gets there, he spots a polar bear who is uncharacteristically angry.
639
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,200
The polar bear roars but Todd is too exhausted from his journey to deal with this right now.
640
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Get out, he says.
641
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,960
And then he goes inside Nita's cabin, which to me it looks like the interior of Gini's bottle
642
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,800
from the TV show I Dream of Gini.
643
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Todd's ready to spin the bottle but Nita's had a change of heart.
644
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,440
She wants him to talk to her like he does the American girls.
645
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
She says she's been watching and it looks like fun.
646
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,840
First they'll talk then more talk.
647
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,560
Then he'll ask for a kiss on the cheek and then maybe.
648
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,560
But she doesn't know what comes after that.
649
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Neither does Todd.
650
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,600
That's as far as he's ever gotten.
651
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
And apparently he doesn't even get that far because the next time we see him,
652
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,760
he's back in his room.
653
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840
He's packing his case.
654
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,960
And I think Craig's as well.
655
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,000
Craig is Nora enters, starry eyed.
656
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Todd demands to know why he's dressed like that.
657
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,480
We're pinned Craig smiles.
658
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Congratulations, his Todd.
659
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,280
You and Barbara, not Barbara.
660
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Craig cuts them off.
661
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Ready?
662
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,200
Brett, but he can't do that.
663
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,640
He's a boy and so are you.
664
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320
We'll work it out, says Craig.
665
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Todd thinks that Craig has lost it and follows to get him out of there tonight.
666
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,280
He grabs their suitcases.
667
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,320
I guess he did pack both.
668
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,360
And they start to leave by going out the door,
669
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,720
but Freddy's out there.
670
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,920
Todd asks who's there.
671
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,760
And then Freddy goes berserk.
672
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,560
Todd's in the room with his Nora.
673
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,920
He's so jealous, says Craig.
674
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Had the size they should go on through the window.
675
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,600
As their exiting Craig says,
676
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,120
Freddy wants him to get a nose job in the spring and Todd offers to give him one tonight.
677
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,560
He's gushing about Freddy because no one has ever treated him so well or per.
678
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,720
They go out the window onto the ledge and the whole time Craig is talking about how wonderful Freddy is.
679
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,480
It's from a good family.
680
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Then they go through another window back inside.
681
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Just as Freddy breaks the door down into their room,
682
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,920
finding his Nora gone, Freddy chases after her.
683
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Todd and Craig hail a cab.
684
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,080
And Freddy Waley is Peppney who's riding by on a scooter to give chase.
685
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,680
He commands him to follow that cab and Peppney reluctantly agrees.
686
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,840
There's a small crowd of the kids outside who witnessed this escape.
687
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,640
And one of the guys tells the others to make sure everyone's awake,
688
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,280
including the driver because they're going to have to head back.
689
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,920
I'm not sure why they're in such a hurry.
690
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,120
No.
691
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520
And he tells India to gather the skis and poles.
692
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,280
They're packing and they're all leaving.
693
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,080
If you expect things to start making sense in this movie right now,
694
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,640
well, I don't think we're watching the same movie.
695
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960
It's 894 miles to Los Angeles.
696
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680
In the cab, Craig takes off his wig and tells Todd,
697
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,720
he was just kidding.
698
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,120
He's not really into Freddy and can they just go back now?
699
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Todd's relieved, but seeing Freddy chasing them,
700
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240
tells the cabbie who's dick Miller,
701
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,760
you keep going.
702
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Craig may be kidding, but Freddy certainly isn't.
703
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Now all the kids are on the bus and headed back to Los Angeles.
704
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Knowing that Todd and Nora apparently left together,
705
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Linda is sorry that she's driven Todd into another woman's arms.
706
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
She blames herself and her hard to get tactics.
707
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,400
Barbara looks at her a gas.
708
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,840
She can't believe her ears.
709
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,240
We're back in the cab and Craig is driving now.
710
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:15,560
While the cabbie is taking a nap in the back,
711
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,880
at this point the fare is over $400.
712
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Uh-oh.
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That's 1965 money.
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And now we're back with Freddy and Mr. Peppney.
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I guess the scooter is finally run out of gas.
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So they stop at a station.
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It's early 630 AM and the place doesn't open till 7.
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Though Peppney figures that no one's there,
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but Freddy pounds loudly on the station door,
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demanding that the provider wake up and gas them up.
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Freddy walks from the other side of the building
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to see if he could find anyone.
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When the attendant comes out in a bathroom and carrying a crowbar.
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I guess he lives there.
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Peppney says they need some gas and tells him it only takes about
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18 cents worth of regular.
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Peppney gets clovered for Freddy's sins,
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but when Freddy returns, the scooter is I guess gasped up.
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Even though Peppney is kind of passed out on top of it.
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He picks them both up and then they drive off.
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"Hurry up, we don't want them to get away," says Freddy.
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"Yes, we do," says Peppney.
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"The next time we see says it's only 49 miles to Los Angeles.
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Back on the bus, everyone is asleep except for Barbara and Linda."
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Linda wonders why the guys ran off.
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She and Barbara realize that they really do love those nuts.
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Linda wonders what Barbara did wrong with Craig.
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Gilt by association, Reckon's Barbara.
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Barbara gives Linda an apple and says she'll feel better if she eats some fruit.
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Back in the cab, the cabbie is driving again.
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He points out the Pacific Ocean.
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He seems really excited to see it.
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He's probably never seen it before.
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Being from Idaho, half asleep, Craig asked Todd if there's anyone at the beach house.
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Also half asleep, Todd replies, "No."
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They had to come away for the weekend.
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They'll have the whole weekend to soak up the sun and privacy.
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Craig says if he sees no again before he's 60, it'll be too soon.
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As they pull up to the beach house, they tell the cabbie to wait in the driveway.
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Craig asked Todd what he should do with his nori get up.
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Todd tells him not to waste a match.
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Just leave him out of the beach when the tide comes in.
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Wush.
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And Todd tells Craig they take any better upstairs.
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But Craig asked for a blanket.
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He'd rather sleep on the beach.
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And then Dick Miller, the cabbie asked if he can have a blanket too.
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He's been driving a long time and he really needs to sleep.
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Todd agrees to go get him one and then remembers that somehow he's going to have to pay that $560 cab fare.
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Yeah, growls, Dick Miller.
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Meanwhile, the bus pulls over to the beach house.
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The kids all run out and are excited to see the Handels performing on the beach.
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Wow, what luck.
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And a beach party with chicks and bikinis and guys in shorts commences immediately.
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The Handels finish performing ski party and then go into the gasser.
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Barbara and Linda split up and go find their fellas.
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And we forget to mention that Paul Gleason is shimming in the background as the
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Handels play the gasser.
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Anyway, we're almost done.
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Linda goes into the beach house and finds Todd.
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Todd asks what she's doing there.
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She says she followed him all the way from Idaho.
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And Todd confesses everything for some dumb reason.
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Well, Linda wants to know if Nora's gone and Todd says that she never existed.
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Linda's about to take all the blame when Todd reveals that he was Jane and Nora was Craig.
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And instead of being pissed, Linda's impressed that he went through all that trouble.
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He even shows off his big accent.
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She does not smack him strangely and she also doesn't curse herself being so unabsorbed to not
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notice that her boyfriend was wearing a wig.
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Todd explains the whole setup and Linda is really flattered that he wanted her that bad and would go
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to all that trouble for her.
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Todd confesses that, you know, I'm a wipe out for redheads.
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And well, let's not tell a net about that.
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Outside Freddie pulls up on that scooter.
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Kevin is running behind him because he didn't get to ride all the way.
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Freddie is desperately asking everyone where Nora is.
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He goes to Craig who points out the clothes laying on the beach and says that
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when Nora heard that Freddie was coming, she just started swimming.
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He figured she's somewhere between here and Japan.
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Freddie goes out into the water chasing after her yelling, "Nora!"
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He vows to find her.
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Craig breaks the fourth wall to tell us not to worry about Freddie.
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They'll tell him tomorrow if he doesn't drown.
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And now we're with Pemney who I guess we should point out he's been wearing one of those
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raccoon coats this entire time and he's still wearing it.
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He's sitting on the beach dictating a letter to his therapist.
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He says he's feeling better by looking at the surfboards.
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He says he's noticed that the skis have gotten much better.
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And then the credits mercifully roll and we are told to remember the moral of the story.
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And I guess it's Frankie Avlon because that's the next thing that comes up on screen.
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We're also told to remember not to forget to turn off our TVs when it's time to come back and watch
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a cruise party.
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And that never happens.
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Maybe that was supposed to be a TV show if we're not turning off our TVs.
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But either way, it doesn't exist.
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And then we see a little more of that night skiing footage and that's the end.
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[Music]
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Welcome back to the American International Podcast where we're talking about
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ski party from 1965.
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Skie party is the sixth film in the Beach Party series.
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Filming for Skie party was set to begin shortly after Beach Blanket Vingo wrap.
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On November 2, 1964, Ailey Variety reported that ski party was set to begin filming in Hollywood
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in February of 1965 for AIP. It would star John Ashley, Deborah Wally and Susan Hart.
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But Ashley and Hart did not remain with the project.
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Variety listed ski party is one of AIP's Golden Dozen releases for 1965
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with an expected theatrical release in September of 1965.
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However, by late February 1965, Variety revised that to a June 65 release.
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In two separate articles published in October of 1964,
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Ailey Variety reported that singer Bobby Vitten had partnered with producer Alan Klein
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to form an independent film production company called
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Bobby Vitten Productions and had hired Ed Lasco to buy the screenplay and title Skie party
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in which Vitten would star.
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Production was expected to occur in Switzerland in February 1965 and a $1 million budget was announced.
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Although the title and the production starting date were the same,
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Vitten's film does not appear to have any relation to the AIP feature
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and a skiing picture starring the singer was never produced.
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Daily Variety announced in December of 1964 that Frankie Avallon had been cast in the lead role
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and filming was scheduled to begin in March on location in Sun Valley Idaho.
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The shoot was planned to be entirely on location and centered around the
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Haramon Cup races held annually at the Idaho Resort.
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Alan Raffkin was announced as the director of that February,
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marking the television director's feature film, "Tabue."
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The rehearsals were scheduled to begin in late February 1965.
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In March of '65, Earl Wilson's column said that Robert Cue Lewis,
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quote, "gets his break in an AIP picture, Skie party."
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He gets to break his leg.
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A blurb by a syndicated columnist reported that Lewis had a commute between Idaho and New York,
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where Lewis was serving as the substitute host for "To Tell the Truth."
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In April of 1965, Wilson reported that Patty Chandler, who played Janet,
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broke a toe doing the wattoucci for the Skie party film.
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The Willa Parsons column released in April 1965 reported, doing Hickman knows where his
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next 14 movies are coming from. James H. Nicholson and Samuel Arcoff have just about secured dibs on
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Dwayne by signing him for two films a year for the next seven years. Says Boss Arcoff,
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"Wayne is our star of the future and we're putting our money where our judgment is.
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We decided on the long-term arrest thing as Russia's the Skie party. We think is best so far."
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Ernest Scott interviewed Frankie Avalon for his column, published in April of '65,
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and wrote, "Mr. Avalon, age 24, has put his sandy foot down and refused to play a male beach beauty
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again. I was getting typed," Avalon said with Admiral Boerry Strait. People are beginning to think
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of me as the beach party kid." According to Hollywood Sturff in Beach Movies Part 1 by Thomas
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Lassani, AIP wanted to contract player John Ashley to play Freddie, and even man adds in the trade,
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saying Ashley would appear in Skie party. But producer Gene Corman thought Ashley wasn't tall enough
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and looked too similar to Frankie Avalon. Corman had to fight AIP until they finally relented and
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allowed him to come to appear. I guess that's why John Ashley was mentioned in that
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Golden Doesn't Report. AIP signed Aaron King Cade to a seven-year contract and planned to cast him
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in a proposed musical remake of the Adventures of Robin Hood, with Frankie and Annette as Robin
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and Marion. Can you imagine? That project was shelved and King Cade won a role in the ghost and
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the invisible bikini instead. King Cade lied to producers when they asked if he could ski. He then
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called his cousin a ski instructor at Big Bear Lake and asked for ski lessons and did he had two days
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to do it? In case Cade's cousin told me you're not going to be able to walk in two days. Dwayne Hickman
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said in an interview that he had no interest in appearing in Skie party until he read the script.
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He wrote in his autobiography Forever Dobey. In Skie party, I was set to play Craig Gamble,
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and the role of my buddy Todd Armstrong would be played by Frankie Avalon. When Frankie and I met at
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the wardrobe fitting, we hit it off immediately. We talked about the script and decided that we should
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play the characters like Hope and Crosby. Frankie would be the Crosby type character, smart,
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in charge and slick. While I would play the Hope role and be the Bumpler, we had a lot of funny
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physical business which helped and not very imaginative script. Hickman also wrote that he and Avalon
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wrote three different ski lifts to the top of the mountain for a shoot only to find that the
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camera was frozen and the shoot would be delayed. Neither Avalon nor Hickman could ski. So they had
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to take the lifts back down the mountain. I have never been colder in my whole life, he wrote.
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In her autobiography, Ivonne Craig wrote about how she was excited to appear in Skie party.
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I told my agent that if Dwayne was in it and Bob had written it, I didn't even need to read it.
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I was sure it was wonderful. Only too late did I realize that Bob was in the
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throws of a writer's block and that Skie party was the derivative result. According to Harrison
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Carroll's column, published in April, Deborah Wally had 24 hours notice before her on-screen singing
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debut in Skie party where she sang, "We'll Never Change Them." The song was originally written as,
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"I'll Never Change Him" and sung by Annette Funicella when it's seen cut from Beach Blanket
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Bingo. Leslie Gore was originally supposed to sing in Skie party, but she backed out.
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Though a classically trained ballerina, Ivonne Craig never got the hang of social dancing.
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And after seeing her try to do the twist during the James Brown number, director Rafkin suggested
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that Craig take a seat by the heart and try clapping to the beat. But when that proved too difficult
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for her, the instructor just sit there and sway. This is the only AIP Beach party film not scored
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by Les Baxter. Edwin Norton is credited as the film's music editor and Gary Usher is credited with
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the film's score. A Greenberg wrote in a April 65 column for the LA Citizen News that Skie party
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director Alan Rafkin was enjoying switching from directing to television to motion pictures.
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"Man, it's beautiful," he said. "Feature films give you so much more time to get what you want on
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the screen. We shoot about four pages of script a day for a movie, as opposed to cracking about
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12 pages a day for television plays. While there's greater spontaneity in television,
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there's greater excitement in making movies." Despite every precaution taken by AIP,
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there were some injuries during the filming of Skie party. When Hickman heard his back and
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Debra Wally suffered strained ligaments, and Hickman standing quirky followed broke his leg.
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"Karaman John Stevens fractured two ribs when the snow rickie was riding hit a rock."
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"Filming in Sun Valley was completed by Mid-March, followed by post-production, which happened at
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producer studios Inc. and Hollywood California." Skie party opened in Los Angeles on August 11, 1965,
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in October of 1965, Skie party was playing in New York City on a double bill with another AIP
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release, also starring Frankie Avallon, Sergeant Deadhead. "Wow, what a pairing."
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Del Comics published a 12 cent comic book version of Skie party in conjunction with the movie's
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release. Fox office recommended Peter Owners play up the musical angle, arranging for music stores
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to display Avallon's many record albums, as well as those of Leslie Gore.
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"Taglines for Skie party include here Frankie Avallon, Leslie Gore and James Brown,
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singing and swinging their newest hits." "The coolest way to keep warm at 20 degrees below."
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"It's where the hies meet the she's on skis and there's only a one way to get warm."
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"When the ski next meet the ski chicks it's called Snow a Go-Go."
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"I think their tagline writer needs to calm down." Samuel Arkov stated in a New York Times
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interview that Skie party was a commercial disappointment. A follow-up film announced in the credits
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"Cruise Party" was never made. Arkov said, quote, "The Bikini Beach Style has had it. We've had
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some real bombs lately." But then Arkov cited favorable publicity touting the success of the
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beach films. Heard that because actors and writers have, quote, "read so much about how much money
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American international was making that they've started asking for higher salaries."
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James H. Nicholson said, "The success of our whole operation depends on our ability to bring in
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pictures on modest budgets. That's become almost impossible now." Both Columbia Pictures and Universal
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Studios produced their versions of Snow a Bound Beach Party films. Columbia's Winter a Go-Go
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was released four months later in October 1965. And Universal's Wild Wild Winner was released in
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January 1966. So the trend can't be that unprofitable? Box office wrote in their review,
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"This should do smash business wherever young folk predominate." As directed by Alan Raffkin,
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from a typically daffy screenplay by Robert Kaufman, the picture moves fast,
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gets many howls during a sum-like at-hut situation, and Avalon and Hickman masquerade as girls.
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Avalon and Hickman are funny and believable throughout. The Pan-Avision Technicolor photography
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is an asset. The Lost Side Nellies Times wrote the dialogue seems awfully childish, even for teenagers,
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but like the musical acts. The Boston Globe reviewer wrote, "As usual, the picture is designed for
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immature escapists. This being true, how do account for the many fat and informally clad adults in
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the audience? There must be a reason beyond the comprehension of this reviewer."
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Sam Hoffman of the Springfield, Massachusetts Daily News called "Ski Party No World Leader,"
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but it is better than the usual run-of-the-mill party films, which should make every youngster
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around quite happy. Hoffman continued, "The acting is uniformly acceptable, neither Frankie,
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Dwayne, Deborah, or Yvonne need worry about an Oscar nomination. Some fun is provided by Robert
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Coolewis as the befilled desk clerk at the ski resort." Ken Bernard in the Detroit Free Press did
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not spare the criticism in his review. Aimed frankly at the teen trade, this fluff casserole runs
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much too long for the little it has to offer. What it really amounts to is a bush-league version of
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some like it hot. In audiences may be content to listen to the musical efforts of Leslie Goren
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James Brown while watching the writhing that accompanies the music at Pulseide. Skying will probably
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continue as a sport despite this view of it. "Writey called it, and entertaining teenage comedy romance
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in snow country settings, with excellent direction of good satirical script and fine performances by young
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thesps. Jean Cormor production values are standout and seven tunes in live and pace." The New York Times
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Review did not have much more to say than the scenery of the Sawtooth National Forest is gorgeous,
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and a busload of girls who agitate their bikinis and ski pants at the camera are willowy.
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But in a 2014 review of the James Brown biopic Get On Up, Nelson George recalled the
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singer's appearance in the film. He wrote, "In the 1965 Frankie Avalon Vehicle ski party,
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James Brown is backing vocal group the famous flames, enter a ski lodge after rescuing a frozen
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reveler. Resplendent in white and red sweater, tight black slacks, black pointy shoes and a
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regal pumpador, brown performs, I got you, I feel good." Giving the lily white crowd of clapping
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skiers a taste of the showmanship that it made him a star on the so-called "Chitlin Circuit" among
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blacks. Even in a movie as disposable as ski party, Brown turned a corny scene into genuine entertainment.
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Skie party was released to DVD by MGM Home Video in April 15th, 2003, paired with Muscle Beach Party as
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part of the Midnight Movies Collection with Skie party on side two of the disc and released again on
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July 10th, 2007 as part of the box set of Frankie and Inek Collection with Skie party on the fourth disc.
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All right, Jeff, we've had a lot to say about Skie party, but we really haven't given a lot of
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our own opinions, so why don't you start and what's the first thing that comes to mind when you want
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to give your evaluation of Skie party? Well, I know that you haven't seen many of the Beach Party movies,
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I've seen most of them, and they tend to get more and more surreal as they go along. Really,
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the only surreal thing in this, I think, is the polar bear. Yeah, and it's my favorite part,
951
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but I really go for things that are surreal and absurd in movies. But the way this movie plays,
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plays differently, and I think that's because we have a different director. We had Alan Raffkin
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directing this one, and up to this time, it's always been a William Asher direction. It did feel different
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from the ones that I have seen Beach Party and Muscle Beach Party, and to me, it was kind of a positive
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change. It definitely plays a faster pace. And I thought, while this movie does have some very corny
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elements, I thought that they also introduced a little something more than the typical Cornball humor
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that we get from a Beach Party movie, especially a Muscle Beach Party, which I thought was one of the most
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egregious movies I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, I haven't seen anything yet. It's corny.
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But there's also a lot of meaningless dialogue here. Yeah, I tried not to write it down,
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and we were taking notes. And I think that's because it was corny, and I'm not really interested in that.
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Another corny thing is Operation Screwball. I don't understand
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why that was so important for Todd Armstrong to want to mess this guy up. I mean, keep your eye
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on the prize. Why are you here? Yeah, the only thing that would make sense is if they were trying to
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get rid of supervision, they didn't want to be supervised as they tried to zero in on their women,
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but their whole plan made it unnecessary. Whether they were supervised or not, they were playing women,
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so they could go anywhere. So yeah, it just seemed like they were being cruel for no good reason.
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Well, I think the reason was just to give Robert Culu something to do.
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Yeah, but I think that with all the other antics that we're going on, maybe he could have been the
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only one that notices that Todd and Craig or Jane and Nora and nobody believes him because
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for some reason they pass so well as other people. That could have been funny, but it just seemed like
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you know, looking at it from 2025 when mental health is a serious issue and
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them playing with a guy who's unstable in some way just seems really mean.
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It's not really in the spirit of fun that you would expect in a movie like this,
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but obviously different time and they were playing it for laughs. I just seem kind of cruel.
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And if he's in this position where he's going to have a breakdown that easily, he probably shouldn't
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be in charge of a whole ski lodge. Yeah, there's no other staff at all. You don't see anybody.
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It's just him and all these kids. So no one's starting to crack a little who wouldn't. But yeah,
978
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there's a lot of other themes in this movie that they could be exploring more fully. And
979
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there's kind of a gender identity sexuality thing going on here where I think in a more modern movie,
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I think we'd see Craig discovering that maybe he's not straight, at least not 100%.
981
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No, but you're also account for his animosity toward Freddie in the beginning of the movie. He just
982
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wants to collaborate. Right. So he's in denial of something that maybe he's not even really aware of
983
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yet. But like he said, Freddie is the only one who's treated him well and that's kind of a revelation
984
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for him. What it's like to be pursued and what it's like to be wanted. And he's never had that.
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And he's realizing that even though it's coming from a man, it's still a welcome. And what does that
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mean? But then we have to sort of negate all that because Todd doesn't approve. Yeah, we mentioned
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the Del Comics adaptation and really do brush over all that stuff. So obviously it touched a
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nerve. They played for laughs here, but feels like there's something more going on. And maybe
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there's something more going on with Freddie too because he's got all these beautiful women just
990
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clawing at him and well, nobody likes to be potted all the time. But he's not into them. The first
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person he's into is a man and drag and one who's aloof with him. So I think that that's the real
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story here in a modern remake. That's what we'd be exploring. It wouldn't be a goof. It'd be for real.
993
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This is also a kind of a change for an AIP film in that they brought in Gene Corman as producer and
994
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he had some of his own ideas. This is Roger Corman's brother of course. Yeah, he'd already done a couple
995
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of beach movies by now, which I haven't seen. So I can't really say how they might be different from
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the AIP versions. And he had brought in some of his own casting ideas that kind of infiltrated the
997
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AIP regulars. John Ashley was out. Aaron Kincaid was in. And he brought Dick Miller in. Oh yeah. And I
998
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think swapping John Ashley for Aaron Kincaid was probably the best thing he could have done for
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this movie. John Ashley would have been a disaster in this role. They needed someone who was different
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than our two Schlubby lead characters. And John Ashley could really blend in with them. He does
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on the other beach movies. He's one of the gang. Yeah, they're all brunettes. And Aaron Kincaid is a
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tall, Nordic looking blonde. I kind of expected him to have an accent when the movie first started
1003
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to add to as a lure with all the women. But now he's just a all-American guy. With a very nasal
1004
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voice. Yeah, he's no prize in the voice department. But then neither is John Ashley.
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But yeah, that's kind of the parts of the movie that I like. Is the gender swapping the gender roles,
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the way that romance is treated, how women view it, how men view it, how it's different.
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And I thought I'd that been explored a little more thoroughly. It could still be funny.
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But instead they sort of leaned into the corn ball.
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And I mentioned this during the synopsis. But when Hickman and Frank Avalon don't go out of the
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way to really look like women. They're just wearing wigs. Yeah. And the blonde wig that
1011
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Frankie Avalon wears, he allegedly puts on Pemney. But that's going to be a different wig,
1012
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because that's more like a Dutch boy look. They're both short wigs. They're not
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rocking long ponytails or blowing locks. They sort of look like moms. Like they're in their 40s.
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They're tired of trying to look good for their husbands and they've just given up.
1015
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And that's the result. That's what they look like. But that's not what they're supposed to be posing as.
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No, they're supposed to look like the other girls. And all the other girls are willowy and
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wearing tight clothes and they have long hair. Well, actually Linda and Barbara don't have long hair.
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But basically they look very stereotypically female. And Todd and Craig look like boys wearing
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their mother's clothing in a wig. And they dab it a little bit in her makeup kit.
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They should have had Linda and Barbara teach them how to do their makeup and stuff.
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And their falsetto voices are only slightly more convincing than mine.
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Hello. That's too bad. This is pre-mony python because they could have learned a lot from Michael
1023
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Palin and Eric Guidal, who were very good at playing British women. How do you feel about
1024
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after all this? They just end up back on the beach. It kind of feels inevitable. Even though I
1025
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thought it was an extremely dumb development. But they're trying to reinforce that, yeah, this is
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the beach party gang. And we're going to at least end up with one beach scene. It feels strange
1027
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because they don't stare on the beach. They're in college. Right. They're on a campus. So it's
1028
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kind of weird that that's where they wind up. No, but I guess that's where the handels were and
1029
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what choice did they have? I mean, you want to get a look at the Pacific Ocean, right? And they had
1030
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a dispose of Nora and Freddie, I guess, last seen somewhere around Guam. I don't know. There's so
1031
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many dumb developments in this movie that I'm not a screenwriter, but I would object to if I was in
1032
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some sort of script conference. You know, can't we do this differently? Can't we make it make sense
1033
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a little bit more? Can't we make it a little more fun for the audience? But I don't know. They
1034
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really aiming this at 15-year-olds. Was that really the audience that they were going for?
1035
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Does this feel like a middle-aged person movie to me? I don't think a middle-aged person would be
1036
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caught dead in a beach party movie. No, but it's so tame. And that's part of, you know, we're in 1965.
1037
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Maybe the sexual revolution hasn't quite kicked in yet, but these girls are fighting over getting
1038
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kissed on the cheek. And they're on dates with boys. And I'm not saying that they need to put out
1039
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or anything, but they're so standoff-ish. Craig kisses Barbara and she says, "Now you have to marry me."
1040
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I mean, I'm pretty sure that people kissed in the 50s even, if not earlier, and now we're in the mid-60s,
1041
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and a peck on the cheek is third-base. It just seems a little weird that they're so sexually
1042
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tame here. So pure tanical. It just feels out of time and place.
1043
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Well, there was the Boston Globe Review that said that there were adults in the audience,
1044
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which should be fuddled in the reviewer. They're fat too. And not dressed up at all. I don't know
1045
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what the reviewer was expecting. Teenagers and formal clothing, I guess. Yeah, it just seems that the
1046
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audience for this movie is someone who doesn't exist. Young people who are very pure tanical. I just
1047
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don't know who would be interested in this. And it did flop. So there you go. I think the movie
1048
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starts out a lot more promising than it ends up. We get the characters where they're going. They're on
1049
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the bus. Leslie Gore is there. And then she vanishes. It's kind of downhill from there. It picks up
1050
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a little and James Brown shows up. But that's it. And the musical numbers, I think, kind of are the
1051
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highlight of this movie. And I think they're good. I think they're better than definitely muscle
1052
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beach party. I do miss stick Dale and the deltons. But I thought the caliber of the songs was better
1053
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here. Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's just the James Brown and Leslie Gore of it all.
1054
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It's too bad. Leslie Gore didn't sing that other song. Yeah, but then she would have to be one of the
1055
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girls. And she would have to have a reason to be there. I would be okay with her being there.
1056
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But then she would have to be like bullseye and she'd have to be the ski lesson. Like why would she
1057
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be with all the other girls if she's not their friend? But then again, why would she just be on the bus?
1058
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And then where does she go after that? The bus doesn't go back. Where does she go? She rode all the way
1059
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from Los Angeles to Idaho. And then she vanishes. So that doesn't make sense. She can just come out when
1060
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needed. When we did Sergeant Deadhead Bobby Shaw's in that and she sings a song out of nowhere. She played
1061
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Anita Elksburg and ski party. But she appears in Sergeant Deadhead out of nowhere sings a song.
1062
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And we never see her again. A lot of the background characters who have been around the beach party
1063
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movies for a while do get names and lines here where they normally wouldn't. So that was kind of
1064
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good to see. Yeah, but it is weird. We couldn't not figure out who the guy on the ski lift who commented on
1065
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Reagan's has unusual closeness. And then I think that was the same guy who at the end tells everyone to
1066
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you know, get into gear or get out of here. We don't know his name. Got a very distinctive face.
1067
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But I don't know who it is. We narrated down to probably Gene or John or Arthur.
1068
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But definitely not Mickey. Larry Holmes plays Larry. That's James Nicholson's daughter.
1069
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Mickey Jameson is another one who's bought over by Gene Corman.
1070
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plays Mickey. One of the Mickey's. Girl Mickey. And Mickey Dora also plays Mickey. Boy Mickey.
1071
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He was the professional surfer in the group. Was anybody surfing?
1072
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No, but he's been in the beach party movies prior. Right. But why was he here? Did he also ski?
1073
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A lot of unanswered questions with the casting. And that Gennacella had sort of an odd cameo
1074
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thing against her regular character. But I think that was just for shock value. I don't know.
1075
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You really needed to be here. No, I agree. It was for shock value. It was the same thing with her cameo
1076
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and Dr. Cole from the bikini machine. She appears briefly in the stacks in the dungeon.
1077
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And that's just them being silly. And we're not supposed to take this movie seriously. I realize that.
1078
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But I think that silly can just go too far sometimes. They're trying to tell a story here. And they let
1079
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this other stuff take you out of the movie too much. And yet you're a link polar bear with your favorite
1080
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character because it only happens four or five times. It's very brief. And it's really funny.
1081
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And they don't explain it. They don't take a lot of time to point it out. It's just something that
1082
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happens and then goes away. Except for the part where the polar bear brings coffee to Nida,
1083
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it's almost as if Tad Armstrong is the only one who ever sees it. And we see it. So it's our shared
1084
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delusion. And there's no reason for that to be there. It's just something that I personally find
1085
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delightful. Had it not been there, I wouldn't have missed it. The way you see the beach party movie with
1086
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the talking pelican. Oh, well, can't wait. You're that's corny. Did you have a favorite song amongst the
1087
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numbers that weren't performed by guest stars? That weren't performed by guest stars. Is there only the two of
1088
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them? Yeah, I think so. You can say the Hundels. I think the theme song ski party is probably the best.
1089
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The gas are didn't really stand out to me. I think I like the will never change them song. It's really
1090
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bouncy and upbeat. And kind of a good message that they just need to accept their men as they are
1091
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or break up with them. I did think I was better than the Frankie's song. Yeah, but it's kind of a
1092
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bobb. The painting the town when they're in the sleigh. Well, I bet about that one. Yeah, that was cute.
1093
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It was funny that they're painting the town and they're on an afternoon sleigh ride. And you think
1094
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well, they're going to town and they're going to poop it up there of it. No, they're having a charming
1095
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little sleigh ride through the snow. And it's it's a cute scene. They look cute. It's very picture-esque.
1096
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But then it gets into that meaningless dialogue between Greg and Barbara where they're trying to
1097
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out to each other in the cute department. The funny department. And I think Barbara wins. Greg is not
1098
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that funny. It's really hard to see the appeal of either of the lead characters. They're neurotic,
1099
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they're handsy, they're entitled. They're not that interesting. They like to break the fourth wall.
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Yeah, but Twain Hickman has always done that. It's weird to think of him not breaking the fourth
1101
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wall. It's a doby thing. Right. And it's an AIP thing. These beach party movies. And it's a
1102
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Frankie Avalon thing too because we've seen him do that before. And it irritates me every single time.
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Even in the million eyes of Sumeru. Yeah. So it's supposed to be a spy thriller, I guess.
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And yeah, he does a little take to the audience. Yeah, it annoys me. And no less so here. That's just
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another corny thing that I could do without. Yeah, Todd and Craig need to work on themselves. They
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demand that the girls like them, but they're not likeable. You want to be like to be likeable. It's
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pretty easy. Instead, they just whine about how they can't get none. But in the 60s, I guess,
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you get issued your girlfriend in college and then you get married. And well, if that doesn't
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happen, it's not your fault. It's the system. I know it's a movie, but the plan to go out and drag
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works a lot better for them than it should. Even getting the outfits together because that's
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something planned on before they got there. They rated the lost and found. They were lucky to find
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two wigs. Most places wouldn't even have one. Exactly. I can't believe a woman would leave those
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behind. Those are expensive. They'll just leave them in the nightstand. Well, in her defense,
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they really weren't attractive wigs. No, but she called back wanting them. So they meant something to her.
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Have any had to assure her that they weren't going to be died and sold on the black market or something.
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That's right. All right, I think we've picked apart this movie as much as we can pick.
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Let's give it a rating using our AIP. Scalware is awesome. I's intermediate and P is pathetic. You first.
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Well, when I was researching this film, what I discovered was that behind the scenes of this movie
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are so much more fun than the movie itself. We only touched on this, but there's a situation with
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Yvonne Craig where she wasn't allowed to participate in the dance numbers because apparently she has
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no sense of rhythm whatsoever. She's a ballerina. But when it comes to rock and roll, I guess she can't dance.
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Was it she in an Elvis movie? She wasn't too well with movies. Oh, wow.
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But apparently they had her dancing during the James Brown sequence and had to have her go off screen
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because she looked too awkward. So they tried to have her clap and she couldn't keep the beat.
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I wish we could see some of the outtakes. And then there's another story that's not really surprising,
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but Aaron Kinkay spoke of how he really wasn't accepted into the click. And then apparently there
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were three different clicks on the set of this. The leads were in one. The regular beach party kids
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were in the other and then there were the outsiders who were in a third click and weren't even allowed
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to be part of that. So they were all social, but they weren't hanging out together. And they were
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accepted as part of the other groups. And Kinkay didn't belong in any of those groups. He was the
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true outsider. And that's for Ski Party. Despite the interesting background,
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movie just is not great. It's amusing. I too like the polar bear. But this one has just kind of a
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weird feel to it. And a lot of that is because of the way it's edited. Dialogue will continue into
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the next scene as kind of a transition. And while that's not an usual in film, it is unusual in the
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beach party series. So it does feel weird. And then there was the bits like Operation Screwball.
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Again, what's the point? And the fact that Linda's agreeable to taking Todd back after finding out
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that he did all this stuff that any sane woman would be like goodbye and never speak to him again.
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Yeah. Any sane woman would have figured it out on day one. But this is a fantasy world and
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we're all watching it. I'm going to give it an eye. It's an okay watch. The songs are good.
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Musical guests are great. Yeah. If nothing else, watch the James Brown scene.
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And it's worth a watch at least once. Intermediate eye for me. What do you think?
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I'm going to agree because there are parts of it that I did like. But I'm kind of extrapolating them
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into a different, better movie. The way that Craig started having feelings for Freddie, I think that
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in a modern movie, we could really explore that. You could have fun with it. We could make it serious.
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Here they weren't brave enough to go with that. They had to make it all a goof. And so that takes
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away from it. I like the polar bear. I like the music. I like some of the interplay between Barbara and
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Linda. But yeah, they could do better. These guys aren't all that. And they're totally deciding and
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talking themselves into settling on the way back to Los Angeles. And it was jaw dropping. That
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Deborah Wally didn't at least smack Frankie Avalon for what he did to her. It's so stupid and so
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pointless. She's touched that he went through all the trouble. Yeah. But I would be questioning my own
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sanity and powers of discernment at that point. I'd be writing Dr. Pemney. Yeah. What is wrong with me?
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I stood this close to my own date. He was just wearing a wig and some falsies. And I thought he
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was a completely different person. And you know, they actually break character a few times in front
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of the girls. And of course, it's, you know, stage whisper, I guess. And they're not supposed to
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over here. But they're in the same room. Sometimes they're standing right next to each other. And they
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use their real voices. They're even talking to us. Well, yeah. And I can see they're not supposed to see
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that. But anyway, it's just the dumbness of this movie and the cheesiness of this movie. Wait,
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down to the point where I just can't like it as much as I want to. And I don't hate it. It is
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better than muscle peach party. Thinking back on that, you know, I would never want to see that again.
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This one I could probably suffer through it one more time. I'm going to give it an eye as well.
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See it for the good parts. Maybe you could just skim through the rest of it.
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It's kind of strange that the whole Craig and Freddie relationship is just played for laughs.
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And then kind of blown off. Yeah. He pinned her. She took his pin. They're going steady.
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And then at the end, they tell Freddie that she swam into the ocean to get away from him.
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That doesn't make sense. And here I am demanding that a beach party movie make sense. I know. But I mean,
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I had to watch it. I would like a little reward for my effort. And because Todd and Nora got into that
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cab together, everybody just assumes they're running off together, which appears that's what they
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are doing. So what? Why does everybody have to then leave their vacation a day early?
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Well, Freddie has to because he has to stop Nora from making a horrible mistake. Everybody else,
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I'm not sure. And why don't you just steal Pevney Scooter instead of dragging him along with
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who's running the ski lodge? There's nobody there. Maybe that's why the kids had to leave because there's
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no one to surf them dinner anymore. Hope they lock the door and they way out. So to find out more about
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