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Warning 30 screams or less may contain spoilers about movies that have recently been released.
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If you haven't seen the movie go watch it, come back and enjoy the show. Or if you don't want
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to waste your time watching the movie and rather have two random horror dudes watch it for you,
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we got you covered as well. Welcome everyone to 30 screams or less, a horror movie podcast where we
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review horror movies in 30 minutes or less. Today's movie we're going to be talking about
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is Bag Head. It's directed by Alberto Cordor, written by Christina Pamis and Bryce McGuire,
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starring Freya Allen as Iris Lark, Jeremy Irvin as Neil, Ruby Barker as Katie, and Anne Mueller
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as Bag Head. I think I pronounced that right, Corey. What do you think?
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Yeah, you're fine. It's fine. Okay. Everything's fine.
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All right. Everything's fine. Okay. The plot of this movie is a young woman inherits a rundown
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pub and discovers a dark secret within its basement. Bag Head, a shape-shifting creature
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that will let you speak to lost loved ones, but not without consequences. But before we get into
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With that said 30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Baghead? Dude,
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for a movie that got as much hype as this one did, it was so mediocre. I definitely have a lot of
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mixed feelings on this. I told you before that I gave it a higher rating than what I wrote down
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prior. And then I kind of thought about it a little bit and I'm like, no, I didn't really
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like this movie as much as I thought it did. Yeah. So there was a lot of hype on TikTok about it.
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Yeah, that's what once again, that's where I found it. You go down this weird like hole on TikTok,
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don't you? That of, you know, Helldivers 2 and fucking like obscure horror movies, huh? Dude,
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my whole timeline is kids getting hurt, cooking or horror movies. That's so fucking like ridiculous.
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I love watching kids get hurt. Kids getting hurt, cooking and horror. Okay. I love watching kids get hurt.
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So it makes sense because you have your dead kid meter, right? Everything's clicking now. I didn't
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even think of that. It all makes sense. Oh my God. Corey, I felt the same way when I was watching this.
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I was, uh, you know, supposed to do my job, supposed to take notes and, you know, have it ready for
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the podcast. I went and looked today and I'm like, I don't fucking remember anything about this movie.
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I have to go through my notes like verbatim at the moment, just to even like jog my memory on this
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because I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. It's just- That's a good way to put it. Yeah. It's
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just there. It's watchable. I think the idea of Baghead is pretty cool. Actually, I think this
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could have been a prequel to Talk To Me. What do you think about that? Um, it was very, very much
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like Talk To Me, but that is getting its own sequel. So- Do you think it was a sequel or a, uh,
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prequel? I'm really not sure what they're doing yet. We don't know many details other than Talk
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To Me 2 is happening, but you're right. The similarities here are pretty strong. Yeah. So-
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Also, also I love your very first note. Oh yeah, because not enough head fucking in the first 10
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minutes, zero out of five for Corey. Yeah. That was me fucking around with the notes because I'm like,
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I was just so checked out. I just- That's your first note. You were checked out in the beginning.
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I was already checked out. I don't know. I'm watching it and I'm just not sure what the hell
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is going on. And then I started being really fucking goofy in the notes and you're reading,
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you've read them, right? They're ridiculous. No, I try not to read all of your notes while we're
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recording because I want to be surprised when I hear what you say. Well, one of them was like,
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oh good, not in a non-English language because a lot of these Shudder movies, I feel like Shudder
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in the screen box, movies that we watch tend to be in a different language. And this was on Shudder.
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So it was actually in English. Well, legitimately English. I think it was made in England because
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everyone in it is English. So I mean, I can understand what they said for the most part,
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but sometimes they have that thick accent, which is not easy to understand. But the note is I'm
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going into this blind note trailer or anything. So I have zero clue what this is about. That is
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literally what my note says after the, oh good, it's not a non-English movie. So yeah, I just went
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into this blind. Usually I tend to watch the trailers. I think I didn't watch the trailer,
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even though you sent it to me because I just felt like ignoring you. Wow. I'm done. Bye. Bye. No.
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Now, dude, I like, I try to just like respond and sometimes I miss the trailers that are,
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I watch it real quick and I go, oh yeah, okay, we can do that. And then we fucking watch Headless.
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Man, people were texting me today. They listened to that episode and they were like,
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I can't believe you got Steve to agree to watch Serbian film. I'm like, yeah, he's in trouble.
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No, I don't think I'm in as much trouble as I was with Headless. I feel like Headless is going to
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be worse because like I said, it is worse. Yeah. Headless is completely absurd. It is absolutely
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like not like Sesame Street is like, I'm sorry. What? Headless is, is, is not comparable.
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Sesame Street is a what? No, my comparison was going to be
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Serbian film is like Sesame Street compared to Headless. Oh, oh, okay. Cool. So a bunch of big
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birds in there. Yeah. Yeah. So the movie starts off with the caretaker. He's hanging out to this
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old ass dilapidated bar looking something like it's straight out of it's always sunny in
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Philadelphia and he's downstairs and about to set the place ablaze. He's pouring gasoline everywhere
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and then he gets lit on fire and I think we see like Bag Lady briefly, but like I said,
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I was kind of checked out watching this. I tried my best, but I was just like,
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I don't remember anything about it. It's kind of forgettable in my opinion. Yeah, it's forgettable
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and like I kind of got the vibe of where this movie was going right after this part where
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he burns the bar down or he tries to and then they Iris has to go and identify the body. Yeah. And
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it turns out it's her dad that that but dude, this dude just covered got covered in gasoline and got
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burned to fucking death, right? Yeah. Isn't usually when something that like that happens,
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you can only identify the person by like their teeth or whatever. Exactly. So he sees this
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crispy body and she's like, Yep, that's my dad. One easy way to get a freaking bar scott free,
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not even have to worry. Be like, Oh yeah, that's my dad. Cool. Can I get that bar now? Yeah. But
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like, how can you identify someone if you like literally he's burned or crisp? He's like a crispy
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french fry. Yeah. Also, he should have stopped dropped and rolled. I tell you that all the time
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Cory when we're playing Helldivers. Yeah, we should get sponsored by Helldivers for as much
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as we talk about it on that. We talk about it way too much. It's showing people at work today clips
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of it like like me killing one of our friends the other night when we were playing when I quiz our
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cannon tam while he was using the terminal. It was nerd. Yeah, it was funny. I watched that today
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actually. Oh, okay. So that was all today. I was trying to figure out what the hell my day was
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like. Yeah, I went on Helldivers earlier for like five minutes and said, I don't think I want to
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commit to this right now. Yeah, I just like, you know, I don't want to get into something. It's
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not as fun unless you're playing with friends either. So I do it on my own. Like I just drop
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in and think I'm hot shit. And I'm like getting killed like crazy. That's me in a nutshell,
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thinking I'm hot shit and getting killed like crazy. Hot shit like Iris's dad. Yeah, he was
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literally hot shit burned to a crisp didn't stop drop and roll nothing. She wasn't even like upset
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when she saw that her dad got crispy cried. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's explained later on where she
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had like this bad relationship with her father, like he left the family and basically abandoned
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her and the mother and with good reason. So he actually turned out to be the caretaker of the
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bar. And with that is a special tenant that lives downstairs in the basement where they probably
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would be storing beer kegs. So so much wasted space having to deal with this frigging bag head lady
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just hanging out in the basement. I mean, I'm thinking to myself this whole time, why the hell
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didn't they just fill up the frigging hole later? It turns out some dinguses decide they're going
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to break down the wall and let her out and go, oh, okay. We see that you can actually talk to the
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dead or we can talk to the dead through you as a conduit. Let's use that. But I was thinking the
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whole time, like, just put her in the hole and fucking fill it up and you're good to go. Now
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you can turn it into a lively bar. Make her hibernate. Yeah, make her hibernate for eternity.
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Did they ever talk about the origins of bag head? Because I don't remember if they did.
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Like they did. They did. Okay. I said it was forgettable. I freaking called it from a mile away
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though, which she's a witch, or actually no correction. She had this like special ability,
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but they labeled her as a witch, ended up burning her to steak type deal. And she survived
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because I think she's like just some sort of fucking entity. So they just ended up leaving her here
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to protect her or hide her away type deal. And they locked, actually they locked her behind that
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wall. That's what they did. And that place was her prison. They just left it there. And then
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that's when someone decided to make a hole in the wall and then start using her for evil basically.
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So that's how that happened. But as soon as I saw her, and by the way, really fucking cool looking,
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you know, when you saw her walking out of the hole and there's this guy Neil, by the way,
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and you know what, we maybe should touch base with this here. So Iris's dad, he's the caretaker of
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this bar. And there's this guy Neil that keeps coming and he's trying to offer her dad money to
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go see bag head. So Iris takes over and then Neil shows up in like in the middle of the night,
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wanting to see bag head and ends up making a deal with Iris to like, I'll give you all this money
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just so I can speak with her. I need to speak with my wife. She's in the basement and she's like,
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there's no one in the basement. They go down to the basement and they see bag lady, bag head lady,
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whatever. Just, okay. Just back head. I keep wanting to say bag head lady, but it's really
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just back head. I don't know why I keep doing it. Yeah, just bag head. It's just bag head. So yeah,
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this is fucking guy Neil. And I was thinking the whole time that he's just this guy. He wants to
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speak with his wife and he wants to basically tell her that he loves her and like misses her and like
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figure out what happened or whatever. But actually I'd loved this part of the movie because I was
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like, Oh, I can see where this guy's this guy's a fucking animal, isn't he? So Corey, I don't know
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if you remember this part, because like I said, the movie's a little bit forgettable. Neil brought
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his wife back, but he's like, so the whole time I'm thinking, okay, he's just going to like say
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that he loved her and he wanted to say goodbye. And that's what he said to Iris is that he just
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wanted to say goodbye. But as soon as she came back, he's like, tell me who you were cheating on me
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with. Oh yeah, that was pretty wild. Yeah. I was like, fuck you bringing someone back from the dead.
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And that's the question you ask. Damn. Freaking ruthless. And she never even told them. She just
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denied it the whole time. Yeah. Just denied it, denied it, denied it. But I think the whole deal
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was she was trying to leave him, but she wasn't necessarily seeing anyone. Oh, and then later,
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later we find out how it happened. And you know what? I'll go into it. So we find out that actually,
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wait, no, I'm sorry. It's the same part. It's all the same part where this is happening. So we find
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out that Neil decided to drug his wife just to calm her down, right? Because they were getting
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into a big argument. He wanted her to sleep. Turns out that he drugged her. She went for a drive,
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got in a car accident and died. And now Neil's like, who are you going to see? Like who are you
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cheating on me with that type deal? So he was trying to like place the blame on her for like
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everything. But no, Neil's freaking gnarly, man. He's a bad dude. I didn't think he was a real person
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when he showed up the first time. Oh, did you think he was like some sort of ghost? Maybe like, yeah,
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like some sort of ghost, like haunting the bar or something wild, you know? Oh, that makes sense.
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I mean, it seems on brand. Yeah. Cause he was a little creepy as soon as he showed up. Cause he
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gives Iris a envelope of what do you say? $4,000. Yeah. Just to go and talk to his bag head. Yeah,
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I guess so. Back to what you were saying about how you didn't watch the trailer. I saw the trailer,
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but I didn't read the plot. So it took me a while to realize going into this movie, what bag head
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actually couldn't do. Oh, no, like bringing back love, like being someone's loved one for two. Oh
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yeah. That's another thing that was cool. They could only talk to them for two minutes. Yeah.
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Because shit started going downhill almost like talk to me with talk to me. They had 90 seconds.
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And you know what? Actually, I think they were doing 90 seconds in this as well. And then like,
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as soon as you started going past that is when it started getting a little fucking weird, right? So
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they did that in talk to me. So yeah, they didn't want you to exceed like two minutes. They wanted
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to say two minutes. So there's comparisons with talk to me now regarding the time limit aspect.
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Yeah. And the whole twist here is bag head does anything that Iris tells it to do because her name
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is on the deed of the bar. Yeah. That was a kind of a cool detail. Yeah. Which is cool, especially
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later on when Neil is trying to get ownership of the bar and he's thinking that he can just write
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his name on the deed and back heads like, Nope, can't do that. And fucking removes his name from
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the deed, you know, even though he wrote on it. So back heads got all sorts of powers. I think
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back head is a pretty cool character, promising character, but kind of a one trick pony, you know,
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yeah. All she can really do is just like get people to talk from the debt. Yeah. The concept
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of the character is really cool. Like you talked about this off air, how it is original, but I
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think the execution wasn't very good in this movie. Like they could have done so much more with it.
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I don't know if it was a big budget movie, but yeah, they could have done a lot more. Yeah. They
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could have done a lot more with this movie. Uh, as I kind of mentioned before, I don't remember a lot
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of the movie, even though I have notes here, just nothing really is sticking out. Like as we're
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talking, my mind is getting jogged with like the memories of watching this movie and certain scenes,
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things like that. So it's all coming back. It's just, you know, if we don't record for a few days
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and then I watch a movie that's like, eh, it's okay. Then I'm not going to remember it. Well,
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you have a worst problem. We went and saw our bad ass movie and you're like, shit, I'm not going
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to remember any of this like an hour later. Yeah. But that's just like me. I can't, I like writing
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things down as I'm watching it. Cause I started getting in the habit of doing that when we decided
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to start doing this podcast. Smart. Cause cause I like watching things and writing notes as they
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happen. Otherwise my memory is shit and I won't fucking remember. Dude, I don't blame you. My
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memory is fucking garbage. Yeah, it is. It's all fucked up. Yeah. So bad. Yeah. You've experienced
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it. It's perfect. No, it's I like it because I can troll you. It makes it so easy to troll you.
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Yeah. My memory is so bad. You go, I told you this and then like, I'm like, no, you didn't. Yeah,
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I did. Steve, are we recording today? What do you mean? I thought we were doing it tomorrow.
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No, it's today. Yeah. Just kidding. It is actually tomorrow. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. You get,
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you get had. I get had. Everyone just has me. Look at them. Doesn't make any sense. All right.
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I just get had by everyone. Yeah. My brain is like, you're only good in this aspect. Everything else.
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You're not going to fucking remember shit. Which okay. I'm a one trick pony and it works for me.
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So, okay. So Neil's a dick. We've established that and he just like, he keeps wanting to shovel money
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at Iris, which she's more than happy to take that money and just, I mean, she's just saving at this
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point. Like she's supposed to be living at this place part time or just for like a short period
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time until she gets back on her feet. That was the idea is that she was just going to live there
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for a little bit until they can go through the motions of selling the place and she can move out
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and have her own apartment and live that kind of life. But when you sign the deed, you are the
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caretaker and you can't be taken off of this deed without dying. And that's when Neil found
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himself a little loophole, didn't he? He tried. Yeah. He tried like hell. Well, actually he,
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he succeeded to an extent. Oh, you know what? That's towards the end. Why don't we just maybe
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talk about a few more things. So Iris had this friend, Katie. She's like always there for her
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helping her out, working through this whole shit. She got to see bag lady or bag head lady first
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time. She's freaking out about it. Iris is like, whatever, bro. I'm like, just pin me, pay me that
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type deal. So I was like, all right, bag lady, sit down, bag head lady. I don't know why I keep
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saying bag lady. Did it again. I fuck it. Bag lady. This is a grocery store. Yeah. She's the bag
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lady. She works at the grocery store during the day and at night she just throws bags on her head.
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That's how it works. Okay. Yeah. Something like that. In Steve's world. That's how it works.
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That's the, that's the world I live in. Okay. She's just like, you just go to the supermarket
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and she's eating all your shit, trying to show you lost loved ones. And I'm like, oh, I'm literally
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just trying to buy broccoli. Can you bag my groceries bag lady? Yeah. Just can you bag my
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stuff? I don't need to speak with dead loved ones right now. Like just trying to get home and make
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a BLT. Fuck. BLTs. Ah, that's so good. I make them pretty good. Yeah. They're so hard to make,
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Steve. So I know really hard. The amount of ingredients involved. It's fucking crazy.
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Oh yeah. There's definitely more than three ingredients on a BLT. Oh yeah. Four. Okay.
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Four. I forgot the mayo. Oh, five. Fuck. What's five. All right, Steve, tell me your perfect BLT.
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Bacon, lettuce, tomato, mayo and bread. All right. Okay. So I wasn't including bread in my list of
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ingredients. You got to have the bread. Otherwise it's a deconstructed BLT. Fuck that. That's not
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a BLT. No, no. I hate when chefs do that. Like they just fuck shit up, right? And they go,
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oh, it's deconstructed nuts. You fucked the shit up. It fell apart. And now you're like trying to
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get all bougie about it. Have this deconstructed pulled pork sandwich. Yeah. It's like,
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it's a fucking pile of meat with barbecue sauce on it. Yeah. And broken bread, whatever. I don't know.
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What should you get for having stale ass bread falls apart with a pulled pork? I don't know.
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Chefs are funny. Whatever. Let them do their thing. I'll fucking eat it anyways. Yeah. It's
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still going to taste the same. I don't care. Yeah. Who gives a shit. So Katie ends up dying
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because she thinks she's doing Iris a favor. She's like going to try to find the guy that is one of
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the older caretakers who knows more about what's happening with like why she's even there, all this
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stuff. So she was able to find an heirloom of his and feed it to bag lady, bag head. I don't know
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why I keep saying bag lady. It's so dumb. You're going to have a lot of editing you do Steve. No,
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no, I'm leaving it all in. Fuck it. I'm leaving bag head, bag lady, bag head lady, bag lady. I'm
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leaving it all in. I don't care. It's going to, it just fills up time. We're half hour podcast. If I
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cut all that shit, it's going to be a 10 minute podcast. Perfect. Yeah. We don't want to do that.
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I mean, well it is 30 screams or less. We could have a 15 minute podcast if we want it because
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it's on brand. Yeah. I wouldn't want to do that though. If you know, yeah, just fucking with
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people for 15 minutes. I think people will be like, well, this was a waste. Like I didn't,
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I'm not even at work yet. I don't know. Some people might listen to us in the car. I know people that
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listen to us in the car. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Cool. Everyone keep listening. We need those
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numbers. Yeah. We need the stats. Yeah. We're watching the stats. We see them going up,
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but we need them to skyrocket. And then we can go to like all these big conventions and be like,
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yeah, 30 screams is here. No big deal. Roll up the fucking red carpet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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We'll just have a banner behind us that says, yeah. With a picture of James Hetfield next to it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you remember back in the day when Metallica, I don't know,
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you might not even be this old, like old enough to remember this. There was a video made, it was a
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cartoon of Lars and James Hetfield. And they were talking about like Napster bad. And then Lars was
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just crawling all over James Hetfield. Like he's fucking just this annoying little child all over
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him. And James Hetfield is like a just, I gotta show you, if you haven't seen it, it doesn't sound
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like you know what the hell I'm even talking about. I have no clue. Yeah. It's I think it's
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Homestar Runner maybe. Okay. Yeah. I remember Lars's beef with Napster back in the day,
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but I don't remember seeing that cartoon. Oh, I'll send it to you. Okay. Okay. So we're at this
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point, Katie's trying to like get to the bottom of this. So the whole idea with Baghead Lady,
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Baghead, Baghead, Baghead. Okay. The whole idea with Baghead is that- Keep trying. Yeah. I keep
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trying, man. I keep trying. So the whole idea with Baghead is that you have to make sure she's
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strapped down to a chair. Otherwise you could be fucking killed, all that stuff. So that's what
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happens to Katie. So she decides to summon Baghead, gives her an heirloom to eat, to speak with the
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elder caretaker to get more information. And this is when we start finding out about the whole,
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the witch and all these things. And then she exceeds two minutes, Baghead kills her, but then
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pretends to be here later on, which is kind of creepy. And I saw it coming from a mile away
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though. So at this point Iris wakes up and I just realized, I think she got drugged earlier or
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something by Neil, something like that. I can't remember. I'm trying to figure out where everything
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was. Sounds about right. It's something like that. But Iris woke up and she was on the floor. So she
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gets up, she goes down to the basement and she's looking for her friend. She sees that something
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happened down there. So she hears Katie yelling for her. She goes into the hole and sees Katie.
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She's like, Oh my God, help me get out of here. And I was like, that's not Katie. I'm like, also
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this kind of reminds me of Barbarian. That whole scene kind of reminded me of Barbarian. The whole
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time I'm thinking like- Oh, in the basement? Yeah. I'm like, where's Justin Long when we need him?
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Yeah. Okay. Just Justin. That kind of reminded me of Barbarian, which if you're listening to this
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podcast and you haven't seen Barbarian, you got to get on that. That's a fucking great one. Yeah. You
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get two movies for the price of one. Yeah. That's exactly it. Two movies for the price of one. Watch
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the trailer and you're going to be fooled after like when you start watching the movie, you're
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going to think you're getting into something completely different. It's like two movies in one.
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We haven't reviewed that. Why haven't we reviewed that? No, I don't think so. I think it's on the
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list. I think you're right. I think that might be something we have to do. I've seen it like a whole
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bunch of times at this point, but- Yeah, same. Yeah, it is. It is on our list. It is on our list to do.
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Okay. All right. Well, maybe we'll have to make that happen after we do like the Jeepers Creepers
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Marathon. And Serbian film. And Serbian film. See, I was bringing it back to Justin Long again.
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So- I assure you Justin Long was not in Serbian film. No. Not that I'm aware of at least. Oh,
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so I was able to see that I think good old Plex. No, wait, no, not Plex. This is like other streaming
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service I had to download and it has a Serbian film on there, but it's the edited version.
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Yeah. No. Well, no shit, no. I'm like, I don't think that's going to work unless, right, you
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watch the unrated version and I reviewed the rated version and I'm like, what's the big deal? And
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you're like, what are you talking about? I can't imagine watching that movie censored. Yeah, I don't
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know. I don't know anything about it really. I know it has to do a lot about sex. Yeah, you will.
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You will know. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Pretty, pretty, pretty cool. Pretty,
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pretty, pretty cool. Okay. So I think I'm just going to skip to the end of it. So what happens-
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No, we got to at least talk. Oh, are you going to go to the building part where she gets yeeted?
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Yeah. Where she gets fucking- she gets Hans Grubered off of a building. That's exactly where I was
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going to go. All right, go for it. Okay. So is there anything else you wanted to talk about before
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that? Because that's where I'm going. No, no, no. No, I was just going to say like, oh, also, no,
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I did want to say something also. In the beginning of the movie when Owen was setting himself on fire,
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did you catch what he said? He said, he said, this ends with me. Oh yes, I did see that. Yeah.
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But did you see that Katie said- was it Katie? She said the same exact thing. Oh damn, good memory
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there. It was either Katie or Neil that said it, but one of them also said, this ends with me.
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I feel like that would be something that Katie would say. Yeah, because she got possessed or
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whatever. It's the fucking bag lady or whatever. Now I'm doing it. Baghead like briefly possessed
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her. Yes, but I thought this part was actually pretty cool because, okay, so what happened is,
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as we mentioned before, Neil wants full stake of the bar. He wants to own it so that way he has
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full access to Baghead. Why he wants all that access? I mean, I think one of the reasons is, obviously,
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his wife. We've established that he wants to figure that shit out, but the other reason I think is
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that he wants to make money off of it. Yeah, he can basically sell tickets. He can have people pay
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him to go in, because you can talk to whoever. You just have to give Baghead something that belonged
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to the deceased person and she can basically bring that person back for two minutes. Yep. And the way
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they, the way she does it, she eats it. So she eats everything. Yeah. Like she ate, was it the ring?
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She ate the ring because Neil gave her the ring initially. Yeah. It was a wedding ring. And it turns out the ring was his
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mother's. Yeah. And then we find out that his mother- Because the mother came back. Yeah, the mother came back and he's like,
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this is not right. But it turns out, you know, it's her property. She had it first. And I think Neil
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maybe had the ring to give to his wife. A lot of parents do that. Grandparents do that. Like they'll
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go, oh, I don't need this ring anymore. And they, you know, they hand it down and then someone uses it
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for an engagement ring, whatever. So I think that's probably what happened here. But so the origin was
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that the mother had it and then the wife had it. So he's thinking like, oh, okay, the wife had it. So I'll be
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able to talk to her. No, he ended up talking to his mom. His mom wanted nothing to do with them. Turns out
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she didn't even want to be a mother and all these things. And he found her dead. So obviously she
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unalived herself. And that's like the first instance where we see that, you know, exceeding two minutes,
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not a good idea and like the true power of back head. So jumping forward. So now we're at this part
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where Neil wants full reign of the bar. He wants to sell tickets, like it's a fucking carnival,
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whatever. And in order for him to do that, he needs to get on the deed. So in order for him to get on
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the deed, the person that is the current caretaker has to die. So he finds out that Iris needs to die
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in a frigging chase and soos. They go up to the roof, just like every horror movie, every person
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getting chased always goes up. Why? I don't know. Every movie, every single horror movie without fail,
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everyone goes up. It all ends the same way as you're about to tell. Yep. So what happens is Iris
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goes up to the roof and she's trying to cross it, all this stuff, and she slips. And Neil grabs her
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as she's like about to go down like this flight of stairs or go down a ladder, right? It was like a
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ladder. So he grabs her arms and he's like, I'm sorry, lets her go, yeets her off the roof and
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Iris is dead. So I'm like, well fuck. All right. Cause I didn't see that coming. I didn't see Iris
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dying like that. I didn't either, but I also thought this part was hilarious because you can
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hear all the bones breaking again. And I'm like, Steve's going to fucking, Steve's losing it right
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now. Yeah. All the bones, all the bones breaking and you can hear them all breaking. But it was
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like once, I mean, back later was a little cracky, but not like contortion is crackly, but Iris was
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definitely crackly. So Neil takes the phone of the deceased, which is Iris. He takes her phone,
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hands it to bag lady and what he decides to do. And it's kind of genius. He gave the phone to bag
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lady so that Iris could come back and he wanted Iris to sign over the deed. So that way he has
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access to the bar and she didn't do it. And instead, uh, because bag head and Iris merged,
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she was able to like just fucking leave the place, but not before fucking destroying Neil,
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of course. So all these people that were like involved with Neil came back. So the mother came
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back and I think it was like, there was someone else, right? But a bunch of people came back
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and ended up killing them. Iris gave the death blow of smashing them in the head with a chair
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and popped like a tomato, popped like a tomato. And then the final act was Iris and bag head as one
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walking up the stairs and out the bar. Meanwhile, the place is on fire, by the way. I forgot to
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mention that shit got set on fire and yeah, that's what happened. They both just left and seen fade
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to black. That's it. That's the movie. Interesting ending. Yeah. It was an interesting ending,
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but I think this kind of says, Hey, we're making another one. Yeah, I could see that.
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Iris bag head is out there now. I think we need a bag head versus a hand from talk to me.
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Kind of like Freddy versus Jason, but a hand. Okay. Yep. Just a hand. So I don't know how it
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makes sense, but think of it almost like the thing from Adam's family. It's fucking crawling
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around and they have a fight. They have a big battle bag head is trying to swallow it. Trying
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to like, I don't know. This could be a summer blockbuster. It's a summer blockbuster for sure.
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And transformers. Yeah. I'm not putting that out there in the universe. I don't want to see that
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movie. You already did though, unless you edit it out. I'm going to have to edit it out. I think
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I'm not, you got to, you manifested another one. If I manifest that, I don't, I don't know what I'm
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going to do, man. I just be like that. That's one that did not need to be manifested. That was a
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pure joke. Well, it is what it is. Now it's out there. You said it. It's going to happen.
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It's in the universe. We'll see what happens. Bag head versus the hand. Hey, at least you weren't
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like super depressed recording this episode. Like the last one. No, no. Like the last one was
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miserable. I had a hard time doing it because we're talking about all sorts of sex stuff that had to
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do with banging heads and drinking piss and drinking like all these bad things that I just
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did not want to talk about. I was like, I don't, I don't feel comfortable talking about this, but
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I soldier on because we watch these movies. We review them and give it to you in 30 minutes,
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sometimes a little longer at this point, but we just want to save you some time. That's the whole
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idea of this podcast. This fucking save you time from watching these movies. You know what? I think
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we can get into it. Corey, what do you give bag head? So I'm going to give this one three out of
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five dead kids. Um, it was fine. Pretty forgettable. Nothing I'll ever watch again for the hype. It was
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getting, it's definitely didn't really live up to it for me. Um, I thought the concept was certainly
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original. We talked about that. Like it, we could have done so much more with it. He did a good job
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building dread, but I felt like it didn't really go anywhere. And the CGI was awful at times. Yeah.
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Like the fire looked awful. Um, I thought the score was great. The lighting and all the people
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involved in the movie acting wise did a great job. It was just not nearly as disturbing as all the
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reviewers have said so far. And, uh, yeah, I'm done with this movie after this. Yeah. Uh, I feel the
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same way. It was good. Not great story was unique and I felt like it drew a lot of influence from
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different movies, but ultimately I was checked out a bit. Didn't really keep my attention. I
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found myself wanting to do other things while watching it, which if I'm wanting to distract
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myself by finding things to do while I'm watching a movie, that's not good. That means I'm just,
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I'm not into it. Like I said, I didn't hate it. I just didn't love it. I, it was just, it was there.
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It was okay. But the actors and actresses all great. They did a great job. The quality of the
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film, like high quality. I thought everything looked great. The CGI little, uh, you know,
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okay. There were certain parts where it was like, I don't know about that. Practical effects look
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pretty good though. Like all the makeup, everything like that I thought looked great, but it just could
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not hold my attention. And I remember writing notes and stopping at some point and go, oh yeah,
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I'm watching this so I can take notes. Yeah, that's, that's not good. Yeah. And I think I was
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missing some parts too, because I think I looked down on my phone and I go, oh shit, that's right.
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Like I said, I was tuned out for some reason. Maybe I wasn't in the mood to watch it. Maybe,
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or maybe you feel the same as I do is that it was just okay. And not something that really
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deserved a lot of my attention. No, no, uh, I'm done. Like I said before, I'm done with this one.
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Like I have no ambition to ever watch it again. I didn't want to completely shit on it because
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there was a lot of good things to it, but yeah, there were some redeeming qualities. I'm not saying
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it was like shit. I mean, it's no anchor. That's for sure, but it just was, yeah, no, nothing's the
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anchor. You getting, uh, chills, you getting a flashbacks of watching that. Yeah. I don't want
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to talk about it anymore. Yeah. We don't talk about it. One and done on that one. Yeah. We're done on
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that one too. So I don't see myself watching this again. Uh, if for some weird reason it's just on
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and I'm like doing shit, I'll probably leave it on cause I didn't hate it, but I'm not going to go
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out of my way to see it again. There's movies I'll go out of my way to see over and over. This is just
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not one of them. Nope. We're done. Wrap it up. Fade the black and scene 30 screams done. Dunskey
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review horror movies in 30 minutes or less. Today's movie we're going to be talking about
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is Bag Head. It's directed by Alberto Cordor, written by Christina Pamis and Bryce McGuire,
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starring Freya Allen as Iris Lark, Jeremy Irvin as Neil, Ruby Barker as Katie, and Anne Mueller
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as Bag Head. I think I pronounced that right, Corey. What do you think?
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Yeah, you're fine. It's fine. Okay. Everything's fine.
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All right. Everything's fine. Okay. The plot of this movie is a young woman inherits a rundown
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pub and discovers a dark secret within its basement. Bag Head, a shape-shifting creature
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With that said 30 Screams or Less starts now. Corey, what did you think of Baghead? Dude,
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for a movie that got as much hype as this one did, it was so mediocre. I definitely have a lot of
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mixed feelings on this. I told you before that I gave it a higher rating than what I wrote down
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prior. And then I kind of thought about it a little bit and I'm like, no, I didn't really
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like this movie as much as I thought it did. Yeah. So there was a lot of hype on TikTok about it.
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Yeah, that's what once again, that's where I found it. You go down this weird like hole on TikTok,
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don't you? That of, you know, Helldivers 2 and fucking like obscure horror movies, huh? Dude,
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my whole timeline is kids getting hurt, cooking or horror movies. That's so fucking like ridiculous.
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I love watching kids get hurt. Kids getting hurt, cooking and horror. Okay. I love watching kids get hurt.
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So it makes sense because you have your dead kid meter, right? Everything's clicking now. I didn't
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even think of that. It all makes sense. Oh my God. Corey, I felt the same way when I was watching this.
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I was, uh, you know, supposed to do my job, supposed to take notes and, you know, have it ready for
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the podcast. I went and looked today and I'm like, I don't fucking remember anything about this movie.
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I have to go through my notes like verbatim at the moment, just to even like jog my memory on this
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because I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it. It's just- That's a good way to put it. Yeah. It's
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just there. It's watchable. I think the idea of Baghead is pretty cool. Actually, I think this
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could have been a prequel to Talk To Me. What do you think about that? Um, it was very, very much
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like Talk To Me, but that is getting its own sequel. So- Do you think it was a sequel or a, uh,
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prequel? I'm really not sure what they're doing yet. We don't know many details other than Talk
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To Me 2 is happening, but you're right. The similarities here are pretty strong. Yeah. So-
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Also, also I love your very first note. Oh yeah, because not enough head fucking in the first 10
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minutes, zero out of five for Corey. Yeah. That was me fucking around with the notes because I'm like,
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I was just so checked out. I just- That's your first note. You were checked out in the beginning.
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I was already checked out. I don't know. I'm watching it and I'm just not sure what the hell
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is going on. And then I started being really fucking goofy in the notes and you're reading,
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you've read them, right? They're ridiculous. No, I try not to read all of your notes while we're
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recording because I want to be surprised when I hear what you say. Well, one of them was like,
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oh good, not in a non-English language because a lot of these Shudder movies, I feel like Shudder
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in the screen box, movies that we watch tend to be in a different language. And this was on Shudder.
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So it was actually in English. Well, legitimately English. I think it was made in England because
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everyone in it is English. So I mean, I can understand what they said for the most part,
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but sometimes they have that thick accent, which is not easy to understand. But the note is I'm
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going into this blind note trailer or anything. So I have zero clue what this is about. That is
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literally what my note says after the, oh good, it's not a non-English movie. So yeah, I just went
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into this blind. Usually I tend to watch the trailers. I think I didn't watch the trailer,
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even though you sent it to me because I just felt like ignoring you. Wow. I'm done. Bye. Bye. No.
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Now, dude, I like, I try to just like respond and sometimes I miss the trailers that are,
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I watch it real quick and I go, oh yeah, okay, we can do that. And then we fucking watch Headless.
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Man, people were texting me today. They listened to that episode and they were like,
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I can't believe you got Steve to agree to watch Serbian film. I'm like, yeah, he's in trouble.
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No, I don't think I'm in as much trouble as I was with Headless. I feel like Headless is going to
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be worse because like I said, it is worse. Yeah. Headless is completely absurd. It is absolutely
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like not like Sesame Street is like, I'm sorry. What? Headless is, is, is not comparable.
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Sesame Street is a what? No, my comparison was going to be
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Serbian film is like Sesame Street compared to Headless. Oh, oh, okay. Cool. So a bunch of big
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birds in there. Yeah. Yeah. So the movie starts off with the caretaker. He's hanging out to this
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old ass dilapidated bar looking something like it's straight out of it's always sunny in
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Philadelphia and he's downstairs and about to set the place ablaze. He's pouring gasoline everywhere
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and then he gets lit on fire and I think we see like Bag Lady briefly, but like I said,
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I was kind of checked out watching this. I tried my best, but I was just like,
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I don't remember anything about it. It's kind of forgettable in my opinion. Yeah, it's forgettable
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and like I kind of got the vibe of where this movie was going right after this part where
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he burns the bar down or he tries to and then they Iris has to go and identify the body. Yeah. And
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it turns out it's her dad that that but dude, this dude just covered got covered in gasoline and got
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burned to fucking death, right? Yeah. Isn't usually when something that like that happens,
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you can only identify the person by like their teeth or whatever. Exactly. So he sees this
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crispy body and she's like, Yep, that's my dad. One easy way to get a freaking bar scott free,
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not even have to worry. Be like, Oh yeah, that's my dad. Cool. Can I get that bar now? Yeah. But
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like, how can you identify someone if you like literally he's burned or crisp? He's like a crispy
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french fry. Yeah. Also, he should have stopped dropped and rolled. I tell you that all the time
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Cory when we're playing Helldivers. Yeah, we should get sponsored by Helldivers for as much
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as we talk about it on that. We talk about it way too much. It's showing people at work today clips
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of it like like me killing one of our friends the other night when we were playing when I quiz our
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cannon tam while he was using the terminal. It was nerd. Yeah, it was funny. I watched that today
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actually. Oh, okay. So that was all today. I was trying to figure out what the hell my day was
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like. Yeah, I went on Helldivers earlier for like five minutes and said, I don't think I want to
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commit to this right now. Yeah, I just like, you know, I don't want to get into something. It's
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not as fun unless you're playing with friends either. So I do it on my own. Like I just drop
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in and think I'm hot shit. And I'm like getting killed like crazy. That's me in a nutshell,
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thinking I'm hot shit and getting killed like crazy. Hot shit like Iris's dad. Yeah, he was
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literally hot shit burned to a crisp didn't stop drop and roll nothing. She wasn't even like upset
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when she saw that her dad got crispy cried. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's explained later on where she
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had like this bad relationship with her father, like he left the family and basically abandoned
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her and the mother and with good reason. So he actually turned out to be the caretaker of the
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bar. And with that is a special tenant that lives downstairs in the basement where they probably
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would be storing beer kegs. So so much wasted space having to deal with this frigging bag head lady
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just hanging out in the basement. I mean, I'm thinking to myself this whole time, why the hell
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didn't they just fill up the frigging hole later? It turns out some dinguses decide they're going
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to break down the wall and let her out and go, oh, okay. We see that you can actually talk to the
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dead or we can talk to the dead through you as a conduit. Let's use that. But I was thinking the
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whole time, like, just put her in the hole and fucking fill it up and you're good to go. Now
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you can turn it into a lively bar. Make her hibernate. Yeah, make her hibernate for eternity.
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Did they ever talk about the origins of bag head? Because I don't remember if they did.
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Like they did. They did. Okay. I said it was forgettable. I freaking called it from a mile away
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though, which she's a witch, or actually no correction. She had this like special ability,
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but they labeled her as a witch, ended up burning her to steak type deal. And she survived
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because I think she's like just some sort of fucking entity. So they just ended up leaving her here
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to protect her or hide her away type deal. And they locked, actually they locked her behind that
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wall. That's what they did. And that place was her prison. They just left it there. And then
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that's when someone decided to make a hole in the wall and then start using her for evil basically.
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So that's how that happened. But as soon as I saw her, and by the way, really fucking cool looking,
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you know, when you saw her walking out of the hole and there's this guy Neil, by the way,
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and you know what, we maybe should touch base with this here. So Iris's dad, he's the caretaker of
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this bar. And there's this guy Neil that keeps coming and he's trying to offer her dad money to
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go see bag head. So Iris takes over and then Neil shows up in like in the middle of the night,
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wanting to see bag head and ends up making a deal with Iris to like, I'll give you all this money
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just so I can speak with her. I need to speak with my wife. She's in the basement and she's like,
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there's no one in the basement. They go down to the basement and they see bag lady, bag head lady,
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whatever. Just, okay. Just back head. I keep wanting to say bag head lady, but it's really
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just back head. I don't know why I keep doing it. Yeah, just bag head. It's just bag head. So yeah,
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this is fucking guy Neil. And I was thinking the whole time that he's just this guy. He wants to
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speak with his wife and he wants to basically tell her that he loves her and like misses her and like
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figure out what happened or whatever. But actually I'd loved this part of the movie because I was
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like, Oh, I can see where this guy's this guy's a fucking animal, isn't he? So Corey, I don't know
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if you remember this part, because like I said, the movie's a little bit forgettable. Neil brought
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his wife back, but he's like, so the whole time I'm thinking, okay, he's just going to like say
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that he loved her and he wanted to say goodbye. And that's what he said to Iris is that he just
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wanted to say goodbye. But as soon as she came back, he's like, tell me who you were cheating on me
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with. Oh yeah, that was pretty wild. Yeah. I was like, fuck you bringing someone back from the dead.
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And that's the question you ask. Damn. Freaking ruthless. And she never even told them. She just
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denied it the whole time. Yeah. Just denied it, denied it, denied it. But I think the whole deal
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was she was trying to leave him, but she wasn't necessarily seeing anyone. Oh, and then later,
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later we find out how it happened. And you know what? I'll go into it. So we find out that actually,
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wait, no, I'm sorry. It's the same part. It's all the same part where this is happening. So we find
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out that Neil decided to drug his wife just to calm her down, right? Because they were getting
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into a big argument. He wanted her to sleep. Turns out that he drugged her. She went for a drive,
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got in a car accident and died. And now Neil's like, who are you going to see? Like who are you
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cheating on me with that type deal? So he was trying to like place the blame on her for like
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everything. But no, Neil's freaking gnarly, man. He's a bad dude. I didn't think he was a real person
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when he showed up the first time. Oh, did you think he was like some sort of ghost? Maybe like, yeah,
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like some sort of ghost, like haunting the bar or something wild, you know? Oh, that makes sense.
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I mean, it seems on brand. Yeah. Cause he was a little creepy as soon as he showed up. Cause he
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gives Iris a envelope of what do you say? $4,000. Yeah. Just to go and talk to his bag head. Yeah,
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I guess so. Back to what you were saying about how you didn't watch the trailer. I saw the trailer,
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but I didn't read the plot. So it took me a while to realize going into this movie, what bag head
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actually couldn't do. Oh, no, like bringing back love, like being someone's loved one for two. Oh
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yeah. That's another thing that was cool. They could only talk to them for two minutes. Yeah.
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Because shit started going downhill almost like talk to me with talk to me. They had 90 seconds.
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And you know what? Actually, I think they were doing 90 seconds in this as well. And then like,
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as soon as you started going past that is when it started getting a little fucking weird, right? So
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they did that in talk to me. So yeah, they didn't want you to exceed like two minutes. They wanted
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to say two minutes. So there's comparisons with talk to me now regarding the time limit aspect.
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Yeah. And the whole twist here is bag head does anything that Iris tells it to do because her name
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is on the deed of the bar. Yeah. That was a kind of a cool detail. Yeah. Which is cool, especially
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later on when Neil is trying to get ownership of the bar and he's thinking that he can just write
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his name on the deed and back heads like, Nope, can't do that. And fucking removes his name from
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the deed, you know, even though he wrote on it. So back heads got all sorts of powers. I think
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back head is a pretty cool character, promising character, but kind of a one trick pony, you know,
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yeah. All she can really do is just like get people to talk from the debt. Yeah. The concept
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of the character is really cool. Like you talked about this off air, how it is original, but I
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think the execution wasn't very good in this movie. Like they could have done so much more with it.
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I don't know if it was a big budget movie, but yeah, they could have done a lot more. Yeah. They
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could have done a lot more with this movie. Uh, as I kind of mentioned before, I don't remember a lot
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of the movie, even though I have notes here, just nothing really is sticking out. Like as we're
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talking, my mind is getting jogged with like the memories of watching this movie and certain scenes,
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things like that. So it's all coming back. It's just, you know, if we don't record for a few days
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and then I watch a movie that's like, eh, it's okay. Then I'm not going to remember it. Well,
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you have a worst problem. We went and saw our bad ass movie and you're like, shit, I'm not going
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to remember any of this like an hour later. Yeah. But that's just like me. I can't, I like writing
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things down as I'm watching it. Cause I started getting in the habit of doing that when we decided
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to start doing this podcast. Smart. Cause cause I like watching things and writing notes as they
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happen. Otherwise my memory is shit and I won't fucking remember. Dude, I don't blame you. My
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memory is fucking garbage. Yeah, it is. It's all fucked up. Yeah. So bad. Yeah. You've experienced
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it. It's perfect. No, it's I like it because I can troll you. It makes it so easy to troll you.
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Yeah. My memory is so bad. You go, I told you this and then like, I'm like, no, you didn't. Yeah,
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I did. Steve, are we recording today? What do you mean? I thought we were doing it tomorrow.
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No, it's today. Yeah. Just kidding. It is actually tomorrow. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. You get,
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you get had. I get had. Everyone just has me. Look at them. Doesn't make any sense. All right.
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I just get had by everyone. Yeah. My brain is like, you're only good in this aspect. Everything else.
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You're not going to fucking remember shit. Which okay. I'm a one trick pony and it works for me.
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So, okay. So Neil's a dick. We've established that and he just like, he keeps wanting to shovel money
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at Iris, which she's more than happy to take that money and just, I mean, she's just saving at this
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point. Like she's supposed to be living at this place part time or just for like a short period
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time until she gets back on her feet. That was the idea is that she was just going to live there
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for a little bit until they can go through the motions of selling the place and she can move out
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and have her own apartment and live that kind of life. But when you sign the deed, you are the
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caretaker and you can't be taken off of this deed without dying. And that's when Neil found
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himself a little loophole, didn't he? He tried. Yeah. He tried like hell. Well, actually he,
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he succeeded to an extent. Oh, you know what? That's towards the end. Why don't we just maybe
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talk about a few more things. So Iris had this friend, Katie. She's like always there for her
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helping her out, working through this whole shit. She got to see bag lady or bag head lady first
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time. She's freaking out about it. Iris is like, whatever, bro. I'm like, just pin me, pay me that
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type deal. So I was like, all right, bag lady, sit down, bag head lady. I don't know why I keep
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saying bag lady. Did it again. I fuck it. Bag lady. This is a grocery store. Yeah. She's the bag
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lady. She works at the grocery store during the day and at night she just throws bags on her head.
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That's how it works. Okay. Yeah. Something like that. In Steve's world. That's how it works.
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That's the, that's the world I live in. Okay. She's just like, you just go to the supermarket
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and she's eating all your shit, trying to show you lost loved ones. And I'm like, oh, I'm literally
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just trying to buy broccoli. Can you bag my groceries bag lady? Yeah. Just can you bag my
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stuff? I don't need to speak with dead loved ones right now. Like just trying to get home and make
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a BLT. Fuck. BLTs. Ah, that's so good. I make them pretty good. Yeah. They're so hard to make,
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Steve. So I know really hard. The amount of ingredients involved. It's fucking crazy.
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Oh yeah. There's definitely more than three ingredients on a BLT. Oh yeah. Four. Okay.
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Four. I forgot the mayo. Oh, five. Fuck. What's five. All right, Steve, tell me your perfect BLT.
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Bacon, lettuce, tomato, mayo and bread. All right. Okay. So I wasn't including bread in my list of
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ingredients. You got to have the bread. Otherwise it's a deconstructed BLT. Fuck that. That's not
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a BLT. No, no. I hate when chefs do that. Like they just fuck shit up, right? And they go,
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oh, it's deconstructed nuts. You fucked the shit up. It fell apart. And now you're like trying to
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get all bougie about it. Have this deconstructed pulled pork sandwich. Yeah. It's like,
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it's a fucking pile of meat with barbecue sauce on it. Yeah. And broken bread, whatever. I don't know.
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What should you get for having stale ass bread falls apart with a pulled pork? I don't know.
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Chefs are funny. Whatever. Let them do their thing. I'll fucking eat it anyways. Yeah. It's
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still going to taste the same. I don't care. Yeah. Who gives a shit. So Katie ends up dying
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because she thinks she's doing Iris a favor. She's like going to try to find the guy that is one of
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the older caretakers who knows more about what's happening with like why she's even there, all this
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stuff. So she was able to find an heirloom of his and feed it to bag lady, bag head. I don't know
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why I keep saying bag lady. It's so dumb. You're going to have a lot of editing you do Steve. No,
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no, I'm leaving it all in. Fuck it. I'm leaving bag head, bag lady, bag head lady, bag lady. I'm
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leaving it all in. I don't care. It's going to, it just fills up time. We're half hour podcast. If I
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cut all that shit, it's going to be a 10 minute podcast. Perfect. Yeah. We don't want to do that.
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I mean, well it is 30 screams or less. We could have a 15 minute podcast if we want it because
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it's on brand. Yeah. I wouldn't want to do that though. If you know, yeah, just fucking with
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people for 15 minutes. I think people will be like, well, this was a waste. Like I didn't,
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I'm not even at work yet. I don't know. Some people might listen to us in the car. I know people that
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listen to us in the car. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Cool. Everyone keep listening. We need those
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numbers. Yeah. We need the stats. Yeah. We're watching the stats. We see them going up,
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but we need them to skyrocket. And then we can go to like all these big conventions and be like,
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yeah, 30 screams is here. No big deal. Roll up the fucking red carpet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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We'll just have a banner behind us that says, yeah. With a picture of James Hetfield next to it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you remember back in the day when Metallica, I don't know,
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you might not even be this old, like old enough to remember this. There was a video made, it was a
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cartoon of Lars and James Hetfield. And they were talking about like Napster bad. And then Lars was
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just crawling all over James Hetfield. Like he's fucking just this annoying little child all over
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him. And James Hetfield is like a just, I gotta show you, if you haven't seen it, it doesn't sound
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like you know what the hell I'm even talking about. I have no clue. Yeah. It's I think it's
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Homestar Runner maybe. Okay. Yeah. I remember Lars's beef with Napster back in the day,
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but I don't remember seeing that cartoon. Oh, I'll send it to you. Okay. Okay. So we're at this
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point, Katie's trying to like get to the bottom of this. So the whole idea with Baghead Lady,
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Baghead, Baghead, Baghead. Okay. The whole idea with Baghead is that- Keep trying. Yeah. I keep
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trying, man. I keep trying. So the whole idea with Baghead is that you have to make sure she's
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strapped down to a chair. Otherwise you could be fucking killed, all that stuff. So that's what
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happens to Katie. So she decides to summon Baghead, gives her an heirloom to eat, to speak with the
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elder caretaker to get more information. And this is when we start finding out about the whole,
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the witch and all these things. And then she exceeds two minutes, Baghead kills her, but then
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pretends to be here later on, which is kind of creepy. And I saw it coming from a mile away
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though. So at this point Iris wakes up and I just realized, I think she got drugged earlier or
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something by Neil, something like that. I can't remember. I'm trying to figure out where everything
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was. Sounds about right. It's something like that. But Iris woke up and she was on the floor. So she
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gets up, she goes down to the basement and she's looking for her friend. She sees that something
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happened down there. So she hears Katie yelling for her. She goes into the hole and sees Katie.
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She's like, Oh my God, help me get out of here. And I was like, that's not Katie. I'm like, also
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this kind of reminds me of Barbarian. That whole scene kind of reminded me of Barbarian. The whole
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time I'm thinking like- Oh, in the basement? Yeah. I'm like, where's Justin Long when we need him?
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Yeah. Okay. Just Justin. That kind of reminded me of Barbarian, which if you're listening to this
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podcast and you haven't seen Barbarian, you got to get on that. That's a fucking great one. Yeah. You
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get two movies for the price of one. Yeah. That's exactly it. Two movies for the price of one. Watch
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the trailer and you're going to be fooled after like when you start watching the movie, you're
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going to think you're getting into something completely different. It's like two movies in one.
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We haven't reviewed that. Why haven't we reviewed that? No, I don't think so. I think it's on the
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list. I think you're right. I think that might be something we have to do. I've seen it like a whole
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bunch of times at this point, but- Yeah, same. Yeah, it is. It is on our list. It is on our list to do.
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Okay. All right. Well, maybe we'll have to make that happen after we do like the Jeepers Creepers
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Marathon. And Serbian film. And Serbian film. See, I was bringing it back to Justin Long again.
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So- I assure you Justin Long was not in Serbian film. No. Not that I'm aware of at least. Oh,
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so I was able to see that I think good old Plex. No, wait, no, not Plex. This is like other streaming
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service I had to download and it has a Serbian film on there, but it's the edited version.
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Yeah. No. Well, no shit, no. I'm like, I don't think that's going to work unless, right, you
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watch the unrated version and I reviewed the rated version and I'm like, what's the big deal? And
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you're like, what are you talking about? I can't imagine watching that movie censored. Yeah, I don't
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know. I don't know anything about it really. I know it has to do a lot about sex. Yeah, you will.
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You will know. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Pretty, pretty, pretty cool. Pretty,
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pretty, pretty cool. Okay. So I think I'm just going to skip to the end of it. So what happens-
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No, we got to at least talk. Oh, are you going to go to the building part where she gets yeeted?
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Yeah. Where she gets fucking- she gets Hans Grubered off of a building. That's exactly where I was
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going to go. All right, go for it. Okay. So is there anything else you wanted to talk about before
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that? Because that's where I'm going. No, no, no. No, I was just going to say like, oh, also, no,
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I did want to say something also. In the beginning of the movie when Owen was setting himself on fire,
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did you catch what he said? He said, he said, this ends with me. Oh yes, I did see that. Yeah.
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But did you see that Katie said- was it Katie? She said the same exact thing. Oh damn, good memory
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there. It was either Katie or Neil that said it, but one of them also said, this ends with me.
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I feel like that would be something that Katie would say. Yeah, because she got possessed or
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whatever. It's the fucking bag lady or whatever. Now I'm doing it. Baghead like briefly possessed
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her. Yes, but I thought this part was actually pretty cool because, okay, so what happened is,
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as we mentioned before, Neil wants full stake of the bar. He wants to own it so that way he has
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full access to Baghead. Why he wants all that access? I mean, I think one of the reasons is, obviously,
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his wife. We've established that he wants to figure that shit out, but the other reason I think is
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that he wants to make money off of it. Yeah, he can basically sell tickets. He can have people pay
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him to go in, because you can talk to whoever. You just have to give Baghead something that belonged
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to the deceased person and she can basically bring that person back for two minutes. Yep. And the way
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they, the way she does it, she eats it. So she eats everything. Yeah. Like she ate, was it the ring?
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She ate the ring because Neil gave her the ring initially. Yeah. It was a wedding ring. And it turns out the ring was his
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mother's. Yeah. And then we find out that his mother- Because the mother came back. Yeah, the mother came back and he's like,
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this is not right. But it turns out, you know, it's her property. She had it first. And I think Neil
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maybe had the ring to give to his wife. A lot of parents do that. Grandparents do that. Like they'll
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go, oh, I don't need this ring anymore. And they, you know, they hand it down and then someone uses it
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for an engagement ring, whatever. So I think that's probably what happened here. But so the origin was
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that the mother had it and then the wife had it. So he's thinking like, oh, okay, the wife had it. So I'll be
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able to talk to her. No, he ended up talking to his mom. His mom wanted nothing to do with them. Turns out
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she didn't even want to be a mother and all these things. And he found her dead. So obviously she
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unalived herself. And that's like the first instance where we see that, you know, exceeding two minutes,
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not a good idea and like the true power of back head. So jumping forward. So now we're at this part
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where Neil wants full reign of the bar. He wants to sell tickets, like it's a fucking carnival,
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whatever. And in order for him to do that, he needs to get on the deed. So in order for him to get on
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the deed, the person that is the current caretaker has to die. So he finds out that Iris needs to die
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in a frigging chase and soos. They go up to the roof, just like every horror movie, every person
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getting chased always goes up. Why? I don't know. Every movie, every single horror movie without fail,
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everyone goes up. It all ends the same way as you're about to tell. Yep. So what happens is Iris
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goes up to the roof and she's trying to cross it, all this stuff, and she slips. And Neil grabs her
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as she's like about to go down like this flight of stairs or go down a ladder, right? It was like a
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ladder. So he grabs her arms and he's like, I'm sorry, lets her go, yeets her off the roof and
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Iris is dead. So I'm like, well fuck. All right. Cause I didn't see that coming. I didn't see Iris
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dying like that. I didn't either, but I also thought this part was hilarious because you can
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hear all the bones breaking again. And I'm like, Steve's going to fucking, Steve's losing it right
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now. Yeah. All the bones, all the bones breaking and you can hear them all breaking. But it was
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like once, I mean, back later was a little cracky, but not like contortion is crackly, but Iris was
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definitely crackly. So Neil takes the phone of the deceased, which is Iris. He takes her phone,
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hands it to bag lady and what he decides to do. And it's kind of genius. He gave the phone to bag
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lady so that Iris could come back and he wanted Iris to sign over the deed. So that way he has
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access to the bar and she didn't do it. And instead, uh, because bag head and Iris merged,
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she was able to like just fucking leave the place, but not before fucking destroying Neil,
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of course. So all these people that were like involved with Neil came back. So the mother came
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back and I think it was like, there was someone else, right? But a bunch of people came back
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and ended up killing them. Iris gave the death blow of smashing them in the head with a chair
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and popped like a tomato, popped like a tomato. And then the final act was Iris and bag head as one
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walking up the stairs and out the bar. Meanwhile, the place is on fire, by the way. I forgot to
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mention that shit got set on fire and yeah, that's what happened. They both just left and seen fade
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to black. That's it. That's the movie. Interesting ending. Yeah. It was an interesting ending,
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but I think this kind of says, Hey, we're making another one. Yeah, I could see that.
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Iris bag head is out there now. I think we need a bag head versus a hand from talk to me.
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Kind of like Freddy versus Jason, but a hand. Okay. Yep. Just a hand. So I don't know how it
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makes sense, but think of it almost like the thing from Adam's family. It's fucking crawling
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around and they have a fight. They have a big battle bag head is trying to swallow it. Trying
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to like, I don't know. This could be a summer blockbuster. It's a summer blockbuster for sure.
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And transformers. Yeah. I'm not putting that out there in the universe. I don't want to see that
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movie. You already did though, unless you edit it out. I'm going to have to edit it out. I think
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I'm not, you got to, you manifested another one. If I manifest that, I don't, I don't know what I'm
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going to do, man. I just be like that. That's one that did not need to be manifested. That was a
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pure joke. Well, it is what it is. Now it's out there. You said it. It's going to happen.
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It's in the universe. We'll see what happens. Bag head versus the hand. Hey, at least you weren't
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like super depressed recording this episode. Like the last one. No, no. Like the last one was
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miserable. I had a hard time doing it because we're talking about all sorts of sex stuff that had to
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do with banging heads and drinking piss and drinking like all these bad things that I just
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did not want to talk about. I was like, I don't, I don't feel comfortable talking about this, but
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I soldier on because we watch these movies. We review them and give it to you in 30 minutes,
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sometimes a little longer at this point, but we just want to save you some time. That's the whole
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idea of this podcast. This fucking save you time from watching these movies. You know what? I think
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we can get into it. Corey, what do you give bag head? So I'm going to give this one three out of
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five dead kids. Um, it was fine. Pretty forgettable. Nothing I'll ever watch again for the hype. It was
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getting, it's definitely didn't really live up to it for me. Um, I thought the concept was certainly
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original. We talked about that. Like it, we could have done so much more with it. He did a good job
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building dread, but I felt like it didn't really go anywhere. And the CGI was awful at times. Yeah.
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Like the fire looked awful. Um, I thought the score was great. The lighting and all the people
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involved in the movie acting wise did a great job. It was just not nearly as disturbing as all the
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reviewers have said so far. And, uh, yeah, I'm done with this movie after this. Yeah. Uh, I feel the
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same way. It was good. Not great story was unique and I felt like it drew a lot of influence from
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different movies, but ultimately I was checked out a bit. Didn't really keep my attention. I
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found myself wanting to do other things while watching it, which if I'm wanting to distract
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myself by finding things to do while I'm watching a movie, that's not good. That means I'm just,
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I'm not into it. Like I said, I didn't hate it. I just didn't love it. I, it was just, it was there.
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It was okay. But the actors and actresses all great. They did a great job. The quality of the
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film, like high quality. I thought everything looked great. The CGI little, uh, you know,
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okay. There were certain parts where it was like, I don't know about that. Practical effects look
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pretty good though. Like all the makeup, everything like that I thought looked great, but it just could
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not hold my attention. And I remember writing notes and stopping at some point and go, oh yeah,
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I'm watching this so I can take notes. Yeah, that's, that's not good. Yeah. And I think I was
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missing some parts too, because I think I looked down on my phone and I go, oh shit, that's right.
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Like I said, I was tuned out for some reason. Maybe I wasn't in the mood to watch it. Maybe,
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or maybe you feel the same as I do is that it was just okay. And not something that really
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deserved a lot of my attention. No, no, uh, I'm done. Like I said before, I'm done with this one.
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Like I have no ambition to ever watch it again. I didn't want to completely shit on it because
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there was a lot of good things to it, but yeah, there were some redeeming qualities. I'm not saying
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it was like shit. I mean, it's no anchor. That's for sure, but it just was, yeah, no, nothing's the
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anchor. You getting, uh, chills, you getting a flashbacks of watching that. Yeah. I don't want
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to talk about it anymore. Yeah. We don't talk about it. One and done on that one. Yeah. We're done on
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that one too. So I don't see myself watching this again. Uh, if for some weird reason it's just on
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and I'm like doing shit, I'll probably leave it on cause I didn't hate it, but I'm not going to go
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out of my way to see it again. There's movies I'll go out of my way to see over and over. This is just
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not one of them. Nope. We're done. Wrap it up. Fade the black and scene 30 screams done. Dunskey
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