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Weird way.
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Welcome back Midnight viewers to what ordinarily would be a
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Father Malone's weekly round up. Instead, well, I'm still Father Malone,
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but this week on the show, we're switching it up
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a little and crossing over. That's right. I was lucky
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enough to be a guest on Paul Waller's incredible horror podcast,
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A Year in Horror. There's going to be a link
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in the notes. Go over there and experience the pure
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joy of horror fandom that is personified in Paul Waller.
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He has been on Midnight Viewing a few times in
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the past. I'll put links to that as well. He
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guested on our creep Show episode and again on our
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Trick or Treat episode. That's the heavy metal eighties horror
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movie trick or Treat, not the misguided anthology trick er Treat.
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As his podcast name suggests, Paul covers a particular year
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in horror. He is currently covering the year nineteen ninety four,
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and I dropped in to discuss Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, the
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tale of an unhinged madman and his revolting creation. But
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enough about Kenneth Branna anyway. What follows is our conversation
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about Victor Frankenstein and his creation, which is timely given
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that we're getting a full bells and Whistles reimagining next
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month with Giermel del Toro's version of Frankenstein. By the way,
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knowing what a fan of Bernie writes in that del
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Toro is, I am positive that our creature is going
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to be That writes an interpretation from his illustrated Frankenstein,
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you know, the one back from nineteen eighty three. Anyway,
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I cannot link that below, but you should look it up.
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It's all etching and it's all gorgeous. Before I hand
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you off to Paul, I wanted to mention a couple
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of things during our conversation. I bring up the show
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Penny Dreadful and its portrayal of Frankenstein's monster. The name
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that I fumble around for is Rory Kanear. He's the
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talented actor playing the monster. Most might know mister Kanear
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from the recent Double seven films. He's m I six
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agent Bill Tanner, and fans of Black Mirror will remember
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him from the National Anthem episode you know, the Prime
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Minister and the Pig. He was the Prime Minister. Also,
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I mentioned while fumbling around for his name, that he's
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the son of another actor. That's his dad, Roy Kannar,
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who was a very funny and those sal Kinds produced
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three Musketeer movies from the nineteen seventies, but just about
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everyone on earth him as Henry Salt, father to Varuk
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assault in Willy Wonka and the Chompet Factory. Another self correction.
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We talk about the movie May and I mistakenly refer
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to its lead actress as Angela Mattis. It's Angela Bettis
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that popped into my head five minutes after we finished recording.
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So I'm glad I can bring it up here. Lastly,
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October fourth and fifth, those dates are fast approaching, and
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with it the Nightmare in Vegas Horror Convention, in car Show,
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midnight viewing will have a presence there. I'll be on
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display in my priest collar. What the fuck? Why not? Right?
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The real question now is mustache or not? We'll see.
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Joining me will be HP, host of Noise Junkies and
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Night Mister Walter's podcast, as well as the Culture Cast
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Chris Stashue and other guests and surprises and giveaways and
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handouts and free hot dogs. That part is not true
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get your own food. There will be sass on tap though.
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That's sassy attitude. That'll be flowing free freedom public. That's
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a service we provide. Tune in Friday Asbichfest continues. We've
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got Aliens Versus Predator w Requiem, the first direct sequel
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to any of the Predator adjacent films. HP joins me
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as usual for all of our fests. Morana's Fest is
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on the horizon. Everybody looking at all the filmed entertainment
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released theatrically, I'm not watching nine hundred hours of SCTV
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of mister Rick moranis that is in anticipation of his
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return in space Balls two also this October. Wait, I
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guess HP isn't on
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every fest. We are starting up
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the Books of Blood Fest here at Midnight Viewing, examining
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all the filmed adaptations based on Clive Barker's seminal horror anthologies,
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The Books of Blood. We've got a rotating group of
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horror heavy hitters joining me for that series, including mister
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Paul Waller, Tell the people what you do?
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Paul.
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My nine is Paul Waller, not Weller. I'm a horror
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movie addict. Due twenty twenty, the workload for my music
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industry job explode right down, and the sign to I
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discovered the movie social networking platform called Letterbox, so I
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decided to fill in the gaps of my horror film knowledge.
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I'm still averaging two a day, and this podcast is
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a result of that horror compulsion. This is a year
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in horror.
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But you know what the most facts in your world is,
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It's fair every year.
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Fine, okay, nineteen ninety four, On the very release date
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of this episode, I can take you back.
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Twenty nine years to that very year, ninety ninety four.
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So yeah, welcome back, horror list lovers. We've returned. Last
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month we covered the complete Wes Craven filmography pawn an
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All and the top three horror films according to me
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that he's directed were in reverse order. At number three,
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Scream that is, of course, the one with the most
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iconic opening scene of it ever film ever, I reckon
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in my time that I've been alive. Number two was
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an oldie, but a filthy goldie called The Last House
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on the Left, and a number one hot shot was,
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of course, Vampire in Brook, A Nightmare on Elm Street,
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an incredible work of terror the birth of an eighties
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icon and a staple of my screens.
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For many, many a year.
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So that was last month, done, dusted, devoured. And now
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this month, well it's different because we are back at
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looking at individual years and the horror movies that were
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released therein And last month I pulled out the hat
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nine teen ninety four, the year that Kurt Cobain died.
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Now I think it's not really even in the general
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conversation anymore, but the nineties has always had this bad
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rap for being a stinker of a decade for horror,
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but a really interesting one for music. And these days
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it's pretty much deemed to be as good as any other.
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But there was that long stretch where just people would
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always give the nineties crap. No need because look, I'm
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going to be the judge of this. It's my shows
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what I'm here for. And when we get to the
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end of all these years, I'll tally up these podcast
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stats and I'll tell you. I'll tell you what was
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the worst decade, And if it's the nineties, well then
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I'll eate my foot. Now for this one, I watched
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twenty four horror films altogether. Now that's hardly anything compared
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to a normal yearly run.
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But it is what it is.
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As for the world wide box office bums on seats,
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well just check out this top three. At number three
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was True Lies with Jamie Lee, Kurtis.
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And mister Swatsneggar.
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And then following that we have number two Tom Hanks
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in Forrest Gump. Now that film is a marmite for everyone.
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Some people think it's one of the best films ever made.
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A lot of people think it's total trash. All I'll
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tell you is whenever I see it, I cry my
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eyes out from beginning to end.
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But the number one movie.
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At the box office, would you believe it, narrowly beating
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Forest Forest Gump, It was Disney's The Lion King. Was
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there any horror in that top twenty though, Well there
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were two things. Jack Nicholson was in The Wolf, of course,
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of course he was. And then we have Tom Cruise
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and Brad Pitt and Christian Slater making all the way
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to the number ten position with Interview with the Vampire. Regardless,
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I've been juggling my list
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you my top eight is a very tight believe that,
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But I mean, come on, it's pretty awful. Only eight
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films that I could say hand on are essential. It
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is a pretty slight year ninety four. But what else
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was going on in ninety four? Well, musically, nineteen ninety four,
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as I've already said, was awesome. The very first couple
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of pages of rat Your Music for what It's Worth
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give you a very, very awesome overview of what is
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out there. The ones I recommend and picked from it
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were Portershaad, Dummy, weez Are, the Blue Album, Pavement, Crooked Rain,
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Crooked Rain An albums so good they named it twice,
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Sunny Day, Real Estate's Diary, The Beastly Boys, Ill Communication,
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Built to Spill, There's nothing wrong with love Holes, live
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through This, and of course shell Ac Action Park. But
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what was the actual news. Well, here's three things that
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AI told me happened in South Africa. Nelson Mandela became
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the nation's very first black president after the end of apartheid.
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Close to the home, the Channel Tunnel was finished and launched.
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And I'm going to dump both of these final things together.
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Is that both pretty tragic? The very first episode of
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Friends aired and the Rwandan genocide began, so pretty bad.
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Christ that was the times important and often shocking current events, sure,
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but not nineteen seventy horror movie podcasting times, right, So
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how do things work on the show. Well, for those
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new to the show, here is a sick quick guide
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to what a Year in Horror is all about. This
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is a podcast where I choose a year at random
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every month, and then I run down my very personal
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favorite films of that year. It's that easy. That is
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the podcast in a nutshell. Also, with each episode, I
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am joined by some outrageously handsome human guests. They help
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me sift my way through the most interesting films of
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the bunch. And for this the nineteen ninety four Big
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Hitter episode, where we've got a new special guest in
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the guise of filmmaker Rick Rawlins. Plus, we've got three
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regular friends that are podcasts who've come back into the fold.
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We've got Stephen Hill of the Stupendous True Cult Pop podcast,
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a staff writer at Metal Hammer magazine as well. We've
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got fatherm Alone from the Midnight Viewing podcast. Also, we've
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got author Paul Terry. He's returned after we chatted a
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load about Cold Check a few months back. And you
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know what that is going to be a welcome return
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for all three of those people. So yeah, there we go.
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I've also just noticed no women. I need to sort
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that out. But you know that is a pretty cool
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collection of well adjusted guys, right, So here we go.
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We're almost there.
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My definition of horror is sometimes considered wrong, just plain
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wrong by those self appointed gatekeepers with a more defined
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opinion of what makes a horror and actual horror. And
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sometimes my rather witty and astute and precise takes of
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what is a horror, well, they make it to the
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very high reaches of the chart. So if you are
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one of those easily triggered folks, then just be prepared
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to get rammed up the wrong side by a Ramakin,
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probably gripped by the mighty Lono from We Belong Dead. Yeah,
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that might happen. I've just thought, as I'm saying that
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Lono also isn't on this show. I need to sort
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this out more, Lono, I say, I'm going to sort
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that out asap. Where was I in my little script?
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I've lost the point nineteen ninety four. There we go,
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that's where we are. It was a difficult number one
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to choose for me. The top four were being shuffled
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around quite a lot, so be aware when we get
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there that my number one could be your number four, etc.
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Etc.
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And when we make it to the very end of
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this episode, going to be picking out of a bag
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at random the very next year that am going to
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tackle the next month's edition of the show. And you
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might well be thinking, hang on, Paul, scroll back a
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bit twenty four films. You can't call that enough to
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judge a whole year in horror. You might be right,
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But here's the reason. I've got to have some rules
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to follow to create this show, and the movie needs
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to score at least three out of five on Letterbox
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for me to watch it. And sometimes there's gonna be
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exceptions to the rule. And nineteen ninety four it saw
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the release of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and Kenneth Branner Atrocity.
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Right, Well maybe not, but maybe it's always.
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Been seemingly looked down upon by the horror community and
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I'd never seen it. So with Arrow just putting out
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a four K, me being a newbie to it, well,
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how can I say no? Even though it only scored
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two point nine on letterbox. Finally, I'm only a fan.
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I'm an enthusiast. I am not a scholar of horror.
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I am a dabbler in this darkness. So for the
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most part, I don't watch these things academically. It's an obsession,
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much like I imagine you have that same obsession. I get
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excited about this stuff still all the time, month after month.
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I can't wait to dig into the next batch. So
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remember it's all my opinions. It's a list show. If
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I miss something out that you love, let me know.
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I really do want to discover the new stuff. Also,
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if you pick up a great tip from me, why
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not email us here at the podcast. I'm at A
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Why not? I don't know what that does anymore? Does
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it do anything? I don't know?
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Are you ready? It's nineteen
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Robert de Niro as the Creation. I mean, it's the Monster, right,
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A reanimated corpse who is rejected by humanity and swears revenge.
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On the world as a result. Yes, fucking please.
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so many years for a multitude of reasons. But it
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only took one suggestion from Father Malone to say, yeah,
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I'm going to put aside my negativity by the arrow
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four K and holy poopy poop pants, it was proper
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worth at Sunshines. Yes, indeed it was. Here is the
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letterbox synopsis for Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Victor Frankenstein is a
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promising young doctor who, devastated by the death of his
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mother during childbirth, becomes obsessed with bringing back the dead
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from death to life. His experiments lead to the creation
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of a monster, which Frankenstein has put together with the
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remains of corpses. It's not long before Frankenstein regrets his actions.
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They're a passion. You're no limits, but he's obsession.
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No one need ever die.
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You're not boundaries. Francis Ford Corpola presents a classic story
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of true love. Let Me help You, Terror, Robert de Niro,
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kerev Brna, Calina Bottom, Carter, Mary Shelley's Franklin Stone read.
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And starts Friday, November four, then.
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A theater near you.
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Yes, it's time for the chat ah. Oh yeah, it's myself.
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Patreon channel. That is right, it's patreon dot com forward
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podcast searching device, podcast midnight viewing. That's where you're gonna
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find him. You must prepare to be flawed with the
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good old fashioned movie tainment, because that's what that man delivers.
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Here.
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We are just
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out two and a half months ago talking all about
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Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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Father alone. Hello, good afternoon, evening whatever. I don't know someone, Yeah,
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not that early though.
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Well, this oddly will come. I think this comes out
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before the one we've already recorded for Wes Craven. So
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that's interesting. But this film I had dedicated previously in
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my life zero time too, never seen it before, never
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cared and there are a few reasons behind it.
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So you've gone for Mary Shelley's.
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Frankenstein from ninety four. I'm going to before we get
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to this film in particular, I would love to know
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like your history with Frankenstein, Frankenstein's self, like with regards
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to maybe the books, maybe other films, like are you
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a fan of Frankenstein.
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universal Monsters, and naturally frank is front and center there.
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Earliest memories of Frankenstein. My family had an eight millimeter
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projectory silent projector, and you could buy eight millimeter Little
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Leader's Digest sort of condensed versions of films, so you
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would have a fifteen minute version of a three Stooges film,
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although those were only fifteen minutes anyway, but you get
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my point. So we had a copy of Frankenstein Versus
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the Wolfman, which I got to use to watch like
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on a wall or a sheet all the time. So
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that's my earliest memory of him, and that is that's
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more of a wrestling movie than it is a horror movie,
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so he wasn't really scary to me. And then at
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the same time, because I grew up in the seventies,
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so I was watching reruns of The Monsters, which is
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primarily my main image of Frankenstein is probably Fred Gwynn.
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There is mad Monster Party. It was not a good
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time to be frightened of frankenstat. I get that. Franken
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Berry cereal was on every tay, every kitchen table, you
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know what I mean. He was pretty widered down as
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a boogieyman by then. I'll goly give you my top
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five Frankenstein movies. So at number five from nineteen ninety
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I've put Franken Hooker Patty Mullen. I love that film, love.
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That film, but it's a weird choice because it's not
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Frankenstein's Franken Hooker. But I still had to put it
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there at number five. Number four, Frankenstein Meets the wolf Man.
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I can't believe that was your first foray into that.
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I watched that a few months ago. I loved it.
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I absolutely loved it. I couldn't believe that I'd never
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seen it before and was like, oh, this is my
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first one.
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Was amazing. The fucking ice cave stuff, man, that's good stuff.
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He disappeared to a k oh, look there's a cave.
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He disappeared to this ton. Okay, sure for those of
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you who need continuity.
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It's so rubbish, but it's so amazing and I love
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it for it. So next one Hammer now sixty seven
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Frankenstein Created Women.
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Yes, good, excellent flick. Excellent flick.
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Number two Mary Shelley's Frankenstein unbelievable. We'll get into it
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in a minute. My number one from thirty one Frankenstein
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I would add a few to that list.
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I'm interested in that, so I don't know. I mean
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at the end, I'm going to ask you to put
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a flick with it for a double bill, but without
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spoiling that, Like where would you send people for like
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some cool Frankenstein stuff.
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I would tell them to check out for performances as Frankenstein.
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For the character of Frankenstein. I would tell them to
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check out The Bride. That was the film What's Starring
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unfortunately sting, but it features a performance by Tom Noonan.
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I talking about? Tom Nonan plays the monster in the
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Monster Squad, but Clancy Brown, the Kurgan from Highlander, plays Victor,
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the Monster and the Bride. He's fucking fantastic in it,
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rocky horror picture show. That's a pretty that's a pretty
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good Frankenstein movie. I would encourage everyone to go there
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and along those lines. My favorite fan of the Paradise
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there is a there is a Frankenstein sequence in there.
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It's brief, it doesn't really qualify, but my god, it's
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a phantasma oracle version of the Frankenstein myth and with
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a great song going absolutely counts.
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Like yeah, if we're including like Frankenstein makes the Wolfman,
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hey see counts?
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Okay? Cool? All right?
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So which brings us to this film? I've already said that,
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like where I rank this one? Like it's so high
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for me, And I thought a lot of this film
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was pretty bad as well, but when it shines, it
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really shines for me. What about you, like in general
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with Mary Shirley s Frankenstein, is it something that you.
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Are into? Like were you ever into this film? I
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saw this movie opening day in Century City, California, of course,
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and that's this is on the heels. We should say
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that this is about a year after Bram Stoker's Dracula
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comes out. Francis Ford Coppola's version, which is the superior
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version of that book as far as I'm concerned, as
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far as adaptations. So expectations were high because Francis Ford
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Coppola and This and James Heart, the screenwriter of Bromstarkers
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Regular are the executive producers and effectively producers of this film.
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a whole new era of the universal monsters, you know,
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and but a literary bent on it. Very excited, very excited.
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to a young Boston Irish kid, was a fucking hero
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to me after Henry the Fifth. My god, yes, I'll
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stand with him. And he's basically following the orson Wells path,
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so he's starring and writing and directing and just running catering.
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I was in love with that fool. So the prospect
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of this movie was very My expectations were very high.
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very low. I do not like this movie. I there
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are moments in this film that I think are great,
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there are performances that are great, there's some production stuff,
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but I remember thinking at the time and then this
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was wholly confirmed on the rewatch. Maybe he's just an egomaniac.
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the movies he was making and starring it, I never
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think he's not talented enough to pull this off. And
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I think that several times while watching Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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maybe he hired the wrong director. One or the other
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is out of balance here.
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He is the reason why I never went to it
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like I. You can't imagine how much I hated much
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ado about nothing. You can't imagine this was totally not me.
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I don't want costume, dramay stuff, ruffles, mohusive, tight bodices
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that sort of height it.
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Can I tell you that I was a projectionist when
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that movie came out, and I had a trailer for it,
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and when we would have parties at the theater after hours,
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and I made a loop. There's a moment in the film,
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and it's in the trailer where it's a close up
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of a masked figure and the mask pulls off and
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it's Keanu Reeves looking trying to look really defiant, and
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it was really funny but I had a couple of
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different trailers, so I was able to splice that moment
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and turn it into a loop, so we would have
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a party in the theater while Keanu Reeves took his
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mask off over and over again for hours on end.
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I imagine that was much better than the film. Oh
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much better. Certainly.
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I hate that stuff, and
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is in it all at that time, and like, knowing
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she was in there, I do you know what this
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is going to be? So and then I saw the
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running time and stuff, you know, like when you're pulling out,
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like do I want to rent this?
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And it's like, yeah, oh, certainly scan down to the runtime. Yeah,
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if it's ninety minutes, I'll fucking go for it. But
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like ninety seven, one hour fifty four not having it?
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which is fair enough, my personal baggage that I put
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to this film. And I've always been reluctant until you
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picked it, and I was like, right, I'm going to
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get that nice four karrow thing. It's just come out
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so I can watch it as good as I possibly can.
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And as I mentioned there that I loved a lot
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of it, but I really hated a lot of it.
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And I'm still so unsure of what I feel about
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this film and what got me all the time. All
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the time I was thinking, is this just because it's
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a different time night before? But was incest like a
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cool thing in the nineties?
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Was it a common thing? Was it not looked down upon?
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I certainly felt by then we had begun looking down
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on incestin in no small fashion. Okay, because I'm confused.
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Well now, now, to be fair, a part that's his
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adopted sister. It doesn't alleviate anything. It doesn't. We're in
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the land of Edgar Allen Poe marrying a fourteen year
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old cousin. This is the time frame we're talking about.
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I'm not condoning any of it, but no, it adds
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a weird layer to it. And what's startling to me
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is Bromstoker's Dracula. They called it Bromstker's Dracula in an
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announcement that this is the first time you're actually going
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to see that novel put on screen. So the promise
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was that's what they're doing here as well. Which is
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in no way what they've done. They've made up whole
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sections of plot in character, they've borrowed from other films
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in some cases just it. You guys can do what
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That I remember reading a book like when I was
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very young, in fact, I think I was not nine
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or ten, but I do remember that it like those bookends,
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and they're in here, So I do remember that. And
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like something that never ever appeared was when they they
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he helps like another family or something in secret, and
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that was in here, but it was so vague from me.
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I couldn't remember.
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bigin to Ivanhoe and things like that as well at
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the time, Like it could have been something in that
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I don't know, but no, it turns out it was here,
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and I'm glad for that. But like, I haven't gone
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through my extras yet. So there's a documentary on that thing,
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which is like the differences between the book and and
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I think that'll be interesting to go in.
474
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.759
So like where did they stray like terribly?
475
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:23.039
Here?
476
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.119
The thing is they're not necessarily straying all the time
477
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.440
so much as extrapolating, which is what you do when
478
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.880
you adapt a book into a screenplay, right, you take
479
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.359
what you think is the most important section. So what
480
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.599
they've chosen to do here is to focus on the
481
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:43.039
romance portion of the Frankenstein book, which is the love
482
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.880
between him and Elizabeth, which is mentioned in the book,
483
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.799
and she's more of a prop than anything in the book,
484
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.079
and then consequently in the film, although they've tried to
485
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.000
pump up her character and their romance, the problem is
486
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.759
it is the flattest romance. I do not care. The
487
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.960
characters don't care for each other. It's so melodramatically produced.
488
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:11.480
It's all stirring music and unearned. There's not even any passion.
489
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.440
These two were fucking at the time, and there's just
490
00:29:13.559
--> 00:29:18.839
nothing on screen that turns yeah, man, yeah man. Helena
491
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.359
Bonham Carter professional home wrecker. So yeah. At the time,
492
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.279
Brian is married to Emma Thompson cast Helena bonm Carter
493
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.400
in this and they hook up while they're making this movie.
494
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.880
Helen Bonham Carter moves on. Remember Lisa Marie, Remember the
495
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:35.000
Martian and the Martian woman in Mars Attacks. Okay, so
496
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.319
they do. Tim Burton does Planet of the Apes. Lisa
497
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:40.119
Marie is in Planet of the apes as one of
498
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.759
the chimpanzee ladies, but the main chimpanzee is Helena Bonham
499
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.359
Carter who breaks them up and takes and now, yeah,
500
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.200
that's called zero chemistry on the screen. That is insane.
501
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:56.480
Zero chemistry, man like negative, Like they've chosen to focus
502
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.680
on an aspect of the book that is barely there
503
00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.680
and unnecessary to the plot of this fucking movie. And
504
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.519
these two people who are actually in an affair are
505
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.200
just like, Oh, you can tell why it didn't last.
506
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.119
You have blown my mind with that. I can't believe that.
507
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.839
It's like they hate each other, like in real life,
508
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.519
that's what it feels like. And it's like we've contracted
509
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.160
in to do this now and that's the total opposite.
510
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.000
I'm stunned. Wow. They Yeah, you know what's funny is
511
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.599
the way they interact and just went the way they kiss,
512
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.400
it makes it reinforces the brother and sister of it.
513
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.160
Oh, there is a holy shit moment in this film
514
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.640
for me, and it is when the romance hopefully is
515
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.759
finished at some point.
516
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.240
And then we it never finishes, God damn it.
517
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.599
We get a sort of fade a black and then
518
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.759
we open up and we're in a sort of grotty
519
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.119
alley way, and there is a de Niro as the
520
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:01.759
monster just you know, cowder like you know, and I
521
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.000
was just like, oh, hang on, that's good.
522
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.720
I like that, and.
523
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.519
Every single step of the way for a good chunk
524
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.799
of this film. At this point, I was like, this
525
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.640
is the best Frankenstein stuff I've ever seen.
I was
526
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.720
so I was loving everything within that moment. But I
527
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.319
don't know how a film can fire so flatly, like
528
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.720
almost flatlining, Like I didn't know how we were going
529
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.440
to talk about this film at all.
530
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:30.839
How are we going to do it?
531
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.640
And then that kicks in, and then we get to
532
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.359
that family, as I mentioned, and I'm like, what's going
533
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:40.160
to happen here? I'm really invested. Is it impressive to you? Like,
534
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.920
as I say, I loved it, It's fine if you think,
535
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.240
oh man, that was pretty rubbish as well, but like,
536
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.559
where would you go with like that moment, my holy
537
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:48.039
shit moment?
538
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.039
Where would you rate that? That's when the movie comes alive. Actually,
539
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.119
what I remember that I liked about the film initially
540
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.480
was the stuff with the monster, And then watching it
541
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.039
again last night, I really love the stuff with the monster.
542
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.920
And now I'm convinced we were robbed of a much
543
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.920
better film that focused on the monster and his dealing
544
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.119
with the world, because he's always been a pitiful figure
545
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.759
as a character. He did not ask to be this
546
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.960
thing and does not understand his place or anything and
547
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.000
has to find his way. And this is now what
548
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:28.000
I did like about what we were saying, Like, this
549
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:33.200
sort of sequence of the monster learning is very rarely,
550
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.039
if ever shown, where we get to see how he
551
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.720
came to speak and how he got up vocabulary. In fact,
552
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.599
it should have been longer that he should have spent
553
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.440
more time with this family. They added the blind Man.
554
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.359
Now the blind Man is a character from Brian or Frankenstein,
555
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.480
and now he keeps showing up in all these verses
556
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.079
of Frankenstein. But let's not kid ourselves. He's not in
557
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.160
the novel. But if we're going to include him, why
558
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.240
aren't they friends for a good portion of this film
559
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.480
before the other family find out that the dad's new
560
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.119
friend is a fucking monster and beat him up. No,
561
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.599
I don't beat him off, but you know what I mean, I'll.
562
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.319
Take it like that is key and I in all
563
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.599
it was getting chills at various moments where like because
564
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.759
I hadn't seen it before on film, like where he's
565
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.160
peeking through and he's learning about love because of the
566
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.279
relationship between the mum and the dad in the family,
567
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.039
and like about how they treat their children, and like
568
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.559
this is an alien concept to him, and it felt
569
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:31.920
so good.
570
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.279
And when he's trying to mouth.
571
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.200
Words together, and I was just like, I was so
572
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.599
impressed with what I was watching, and I did a
573
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.720
foolish thing halfway through is I read a few reviews
574
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.920
and it said that a common quite a common trait
575
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.720
within them was that de Niro was miscast. Now, you
576
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.319
mentioned something about being missed. A couple of people miscast earlier.
577
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.319
Only one, only one, No, only Kenneth Brown has miscast
578
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.920
in this movie. I think de Niro was. Everyone was
579
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.240
all a buzz when he was cast in the movie, like,
580
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.039
oh my god, what's he going to do with it? Yeah,
581
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.719
he's not miscast in the movie. He's unfortunately got a
582
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.840
bad movie framed around him. And we're not given enough
583
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.880
of this guy that we're not given enough of this
584
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:26.159
the creature who finds joy in doing good for this family,
585
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.280
for helping them. We don't get enough of this monster
586
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.039
who for the I think for the first time cinematically,
587
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.960
whenever they've gone to include the character of a bride
588
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.519
character he does demand it in the novel, but this
589
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.559
is the only time it isn't completely creepy from the
590
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.000
get go. It always comes off as I want to mate,
591
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.039
give me a girl, whereas this is the monster recognizing
592
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:58.480
that in a family there is satisfaction in peace and acceptance,
593
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.639
and that's what he needs. So that's what he's asking for.
594
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.599
Not give me a mate, but give me a companion please,
595
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.679
And that sings in this movie. And Danira pulls all
596
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.119
that off. Man when they
finally run him off, and
597
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.920
he's just bawling like a child, Like, who can't feel
598
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.800
bad for him? Man, tell me that's a bad performance.
599
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:19.920
What are you out of your minds?
600
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.800
Yeah, I think I think it's Stella, Like I couldn't believe.
601
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.960
There was a moment where he pulled like from the
602
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.320
frozen ground, like it was pulling turnips out for the family,
603
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.639
And as I said, I was getting tills and like,
604
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.920
it's so rare that you are in love with a
605
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.599
film at that moment, And that was one of them
606
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.199
that the music swelling and stuff and like I think
607
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.480
it's because he didn't expect anything back. He just wanted
608
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.920
to help them because they're helping him and they don't
609
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.400
even realize they're helping him.
610
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:47.760
It's just such a.
611
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.960
Great moment, and it's like it makes me like love
612
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.800
discovering things that I've poo pooed in the past.
613
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:55.519
So yeah, I don't know.
614
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.320
I just felt so good watching that, and then I
615
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.800
just thought to myself, right, what is this.
616
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:00.960
Film got to offer now?
617
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.599
So we've got the I would say that the ship
618
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:05.760
met out the way, but we've got all the romance
619
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.679
stuff that that's not going to come back.
620
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.039
I wouldn't do that because we heaven for a fen
621
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.599
that they bring that back over and over it and
622
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.599
refocus the entire movie for a portion. But I was
623
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.480
sad John Claese is gone. Don't you wish that that
624
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.079
had been like his Igor character, like that has been
625
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.519
his assistant. Instead, what they've done is, see here's a
626
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.960
book changed from the book. The Henry Clairval character, the
627
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.519
Tom Holt's character. He's a good performance in it too.
628
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.719
Is he's trying to provide the comic relief, straining mightily
629
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.719
against this script to provide the comic relief. But he's
630
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.559
Victor's childhood friend. He never leaves Geneva and then eventually
631
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:48.400
the monster kills him when in the book, So I
632
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.039
know they added it added him to the the ingelestatt
633
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.079
section of the movie, but just so Branna has somebody
634
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.239
to talk to, but they had the perfect guy to
635
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.000
talk to. Let's continue talk about junklies, but I want
636
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.639
to talk about the main problem with the Victor Frankenstein
637
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.039
character and as he's characterized here.
638
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.920
After all I wanted to say about the John Clee
639
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.159
thing is that he was the ray of light in
640
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.800
the whole romance bit where we kept going to him
641
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.400
and he it was like, oh, okay, so he's going
642
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.440
to be the guy that takes him under his wing
643
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.519
and we're going to get to learn from him. There's
644
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.320
going to be some monologues going on. It just feels
645
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.679
cut off before. And I've just come from watching the
646
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:34.559
Life of Brian as well, so instantly, you know, it's
647
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.599
fresh in my mind. I know it is capable of
648
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.800
got all those great memories from him, and here he's
649
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.360
not playing to type at all. And I was just
650
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.039
really enjoying it and like to get as I say,
651
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.679
like an anti VAXXA just doing away with him fair enough,
652
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.880
like with today's knowledge, Like that's an interesting way to go.
653
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:55.360
But I could have done with him and the rest
654
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.039
of the film for sure. Yeah. I First of all,
655
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.960
he looks remarkably like Billy Connolly in this film for
656
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.599
some reason, with that wig. I'll try. I kept thinking
657
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.840
it was Billy Connolly on occasion. But Coleice Alalys seemed
658
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.719
like the darkest member of the Pythons, if that's possible.
659
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.440
Some others might have shown it more. But there's just
660
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.920
something deeply disturbed about him, and so having to having
661
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.199
that come out a bit is really enjoyable. In fact,
662
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:26.639
like when he gets to the end, like there's a
663
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.800
moment right before a transition where he lowers his voice
664
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.280
and they were abomin nations and it's like, oh boy,
665
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.679
I can't wait for more of this guy. Oh no, no, no,
666
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.920
we're just gonna shuffle him out here. We're gonna shuffle
667
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.519
him out of here because of the main problem with
668
00:38:39.559
--> 00:38:43.079
the movie is Kenneth Brana is a fucking megalomaniac. Let's
669
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:43.960
talk about it then.
670
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:48.440
So the other thing in the reviews, okay, was Kenneth
671
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.679
Branna shouting like instead of like acting his way through it.
672
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.079
He decided to shout his way through several scenes. Now
673
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.599
that was the worst I could pick. I could think
674
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.159
of a few other things to say about him. The
675
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:00.719
issue with he.
676
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.880
Made you think, I think, Okay, I think in each
677
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:10.679
of his movies he cultivated and then bristled against the
678
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.840
sort of Orson Wells comparison, like the sort of boy
679
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.639
genius does it all kind of thing. So when it
680
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.159
came to this movie, he has to look back at
681
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.760
all the different performances of Victor Frankenstein up until then,
682
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.159
and he has to find a lane that hasn't been
683
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.199
done and he has to commit to it. And meanwhile,
684
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:35.000
newly fit Kenneth Branna because he's Hollywood eyes. Now he's
685
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.280
done dead again by now? And did he do much
686
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.639
to do about nothing but it probably yeah, yeah, So
687
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.760
he decided to make this an ode to his physique
688
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.320
and make this a muscular Victor Frankenstein instead of the shivering,
689
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:56.400
barely sunlit lab dweller or the jibbering maniac. He was
690
00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:01.960
going to make him a football start. I mean, the
691
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.280
let me okay, we'll get more of this, but I
692
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.000
do want to say that my main problem with the
693
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.440
characterization of Victor Frankensteinire is he wants him to be
694
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.800
the completely obsessed maniac, the character who needs to conquer
695
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.639
death or create life more to the point, but he
696
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.679
also wants it to be happy and romantic. So we
697
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.320
get the death of his mother, which is the kickoff
698
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.119
point in the novel and points to why he's doing
699
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.000
this to begin with. I think he doesn't want anyone
700
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.159
to die. But that shift in character means that he
701
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:38.480
is now deeply wounded and flawed and obsessed with one
702
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.440
thing and one thing only, and he becomes dissociated from
703
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.000
his town. Like in the
book that he leaves and
704
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.559
they don't hear from him anymore, and he's just fucking
705
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.039
focused on his business. But here they want to cultivate
706
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.280
the romance, so he's still I mean, we find out
707
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.840
he's not writing letters, but we're made to think he is,
708
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:00.800
and it distracts from everything, and it makes his character like,
709
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.719
you can't be fucking bouncy and tortured. It just doesn't work.
710
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.119
It's such a shame. There is too much naked Kenneth,
711
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.280
you know. I feel like it's a you know, when
712
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.559
dads discover Instagram and then then get all buff.
713
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:17.719
It's like that.
714
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:23.079
It's like it's like, yeah, I might be divorced, but
715
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.079
look what I can do. It's got that sort of
716
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:30.239
vibe to it. But it's so melodramatic. It's so every
717
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.559
single thing that he does isn't just done as it
718
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:40.039
would be. Everything has to be important, and yeah, if
719
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.199
you were focused on this one thing, like that's what
720
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.119
you would be focused on, you'd become a nerd within yourself,
721
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:46.760
you know you would.
722
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:48.440
You would be like, right, I'm going to do this.
723
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.960
I'm going to do this properly. And I don't. I
724
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:56.039
don't ever feel that. I just don't. It's so wild wild. Yeah,
725
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.960
let's face it that he's decided that the birth sequence
726
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.639
is going to be him fucking the monster into life.
727
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:08.920
It's him disrobed and running and grunting and pulling chains
728
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.480
that make logs slam into other things and bodies swinging
729
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:17.000
around and then dumped into a vat of amnionic fluid.
730
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.400
Now they make a point to show us in some
731
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.639
sort of workhouse medico situation, a woman giving birth and
732
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.880
a spittoon of some sort catching all the amniotic fluid
733
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.960
so later when we see that tank and it's filled
734
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.440
to the brim, and you know that Paul, you, me
735
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.920
and everyone could get into that fucking tank. How long
736
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.719
was he collecting that? Did he have people on staff?
737
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.480
Where's his money coming from? What's going on here? It's
738
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.639
really weird anyway, Yeah, it's so weird. So he makes
739
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:55.639
it like this thing where Frankenstein golden locked Frankenstein. Let's
740
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.599
not forget that. We're talking a lot about the physique,
741
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.519
but he really frames it all with this giant mane
742
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.519
of a lion hair. You know, he learned from his
743
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.119
actual hero, Laurence Olivier. If you're gonna make the black
744
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.039
and white movie, make sure you're blonde. You want to
745
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.199
you want all the focus on you. I don't know.
746
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.480
It just ends up being ridiculous him to your point,
747
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.800
shouting instead of it's alive and the joy of it,
748
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.400
he's screaming it into life. He's making it live because
749
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.320
he's so virile.
750
00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:30.880
I think that scene is uh, super gay. I super
751
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.039
enjoyed it. I didn't expect anything like that, you know,
752
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:39.480
I was expecting like a you know, when there's a homage.
753
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.280
A homage is very good word for it. I was
754
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.039
expecting that and that's not what we got. It's not
755
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.519
at all. It was so gay, and I was like,
756
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.719
I don't know where this is gonna go.
757
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.119
This is electric eels. Let me talk, let's speak to
758
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.280
the phallicness of it all. There's no lightning here. There's
759
00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.360
a vat of electric eels that is in a bladder
760
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.400
that is pulsating, and then he hooks up a tube
761
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:06.000
and sends in the eels.
762
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.320
Yeah, it's a fantastic birthing scene of the monster, but
763
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.559
also absolutely ridiculous. And here's the thing, right that was
764
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.159
still in a bit where I'm still uming and a
765
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.280
ring about this whole film, as I say, And it
766
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.280
wasn't enough to get me on board, but it was bizarre.
767
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:24.559
It was just bizarre.
768
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.440
It took like that de Niro sequence to sort of
769
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.199
get me into this thing, and it really did get
770
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.199
me into it, but it didn't last well.
771
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.480
Can I just say that the end of that scene,
772
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.280
when we finally get the monster with the vat of
773
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.719
viscous fluid that dumps out onto the floor and Frankenstein
774
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:48.000
comes and just tries to help him stand that scene,
775
00:44:49.559 -->
00:44:52.639
I'm making fun of Branna a lot for his performance here,
776
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.239
but his instinct as a filmmaker there to let that
777
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.119
play because it goes on forever. I think back. I
778
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.360
only saw that Movi be in the theater thirty years ago,
779
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.480
thirty three years ago something, and that's the image that
780
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.199
comes to mind him those two sort of slickly trying
781
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.079
to get up this do this amnionic slide, this naked
782
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.519
oil wrestling moment, the diddy dip, if you will. It's
783
00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:22.480
shocking and disturbing and horrifying and sweet at the same
784
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.559
time because he really is trying to help his creation
785
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.360
here and he hasn't yet rebuked him. I don't know.
786
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.400
Something about that whole image is what makes the whole movie.
787
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.199
If the movie works at all, it's working right here.
788
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.000
In an interview that I watched somewhere on YouTube after
789
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.039
I watch this, he called this film a gothic romance.
790
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:47.920
He didn't mention horror, no shit, Jesus, But in that
791
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.920
moment it's so gross, like if you were going to
792
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:56.280
say a pinpoint of horror moment, it's so like cinema,
793
00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.440
you know, you'd be like, oh, watching this thing, it
794
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.599
fit that at that moment, it really does feel like
795
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.880
a horror, and it's not your traditional scares or anything
796
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:06.039
like that.
797
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.800
It's just something that's so sick, and it's revulsion, which
798
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:12.320
you rarely get in a movie without it just being
799
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:16.079
gross out. There's something, there's a creeping factor to it
800
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.400
that that gets under your skin, and it's almost by accident.
801
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.000
So maybe that's why it's featured so well, because there's
802
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.960
nothing in the rest of the movie that does a
803
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.719
horror movie. It's all action from there on out. You
804
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.639
can't even have the character sneak up on another character.
805
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.079
There are so many moments where you could have easily
806
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.599
crafted a scare in this film, and he's just like, no,
807
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.760
I'll have him jump off a cliff like a fucking
808
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.199
wrestler for some reason. Here, what are you doing? What about?
809
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.880
Like when the monster stitches up the maid, I think
810
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.559
it is for killing the girl, and then a group
811
00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.400
a mob finder and then they hang.
812
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:54.159
Her so they throw off.
813
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.119
Its a really tall building and like the neck crack
814
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.719
and everything. The way that's filmed is so mattterrift rather
815
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.559
than like dumb for a horror scare. So I still
816
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.039
of get where he's going, Like his nose, it's a
817
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.320
gothic romance rather than that, well.
818
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.719
You don't want to live in Geneva, man, that the
819
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.440
townsfolk there are just ready to rite at every fucking moment.
820
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.000
But yeah, you know what's funny is I appreciated that
821
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.559
they accelerated the sequence from the book here where the
822
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:28.440
maid gets framed for Williams murder. But the thing is
823
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:34.400
in the book they try her, there's a trial, and
824
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.400
she's sentenced, and then she's hung publicly and Victor does nothing.
825
00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.079
He just stands because he doesn't want people to know
826
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.840
that it was his creation that actually did this. And
827
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.000
then that guilt is part of the part of the
828
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.119
escalating guilt that he feels, and it just gets getting
829
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.760
worse because it just keeps coming and coming and coming
830
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.880
for him. But he's not interested in that. He's interested
831
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.239
in the romance part of it. And this annoyance of
832
00:47:59.280 --> 00:47:59.880
a character.
833
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:02.760
You mentioned this the sort of like the way they
834
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.880
fastly go through the book, and it feels like to
835
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.719
me and I can't remember the book very well, but
836
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.920
there's certain things that we know when you close your eyes,
837
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.840
like oh, I think there was like a snowy mountains
838
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.599
and stuff, and there they are, but like it goes
839
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.880
so fast through all these things, like it becomes an
840
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.639
epic adventure where he then goes off to find the
841
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.960
monster and you know, we're in like snow snowcap mountains
842
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.199
and things, and then the next scene that they're talking
843
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.199
in a cave and then the next scene is it
844
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:37.679
all happens so fast it's crazy for me that like,
845
00:48:37.800 -->
00:48:38.960
what's happened.
846
00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.880
To this film? Yeah, you know what's funny? Okay, So
847
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.639
I don't know the work of Steph Lady all that much,
848
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.039
but I do know Frank Darebyn's work, and he should
849
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.320
have motherfucking known better because structurally this movie is so
850
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:55.360
concerned with and I think this is owing to the
851
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.599
bram Stokers Dracula of but all, it's so concerned with
852
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.159
telling the aspects of the book that hadn't been told
853
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.440
before as a novelty that it ends up overstuffed, so
854
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.079
we end up skimping on things that we need, which
855
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.960
it's so busy jumping scene to scene to plot point
856
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.840
to plot point that you know, Yeah, in the book,
857
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.400
Victor is searching in the mountains for the monster and
858
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.119
then they end up in his cave and then they
859
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.960
have a conversation. But like we we don't look when
860
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.639
the monster showed up at the manor and said, I'll
861
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.000
meet you on the frozen sea, and then okay, so
862
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.599
then we've got a scene of him fucking mountain climbing,
863
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.159
and then we've bet in the tax scene, and then
864
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.400
he's got to wake up and slowly come to and
865
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.480
now we're in the cave. He's standing there. Right then, Victor,
866
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.440
I need a mate. I'm going to keep killing people
867
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.360
until you give me a mate to have the conversation
868
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.280
right that. Why did we need that sequence other than
869
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.599
here's what happened to the book, y'all, and nobody's done this,
870
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:57.400
and I'm going to do.
871
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.519
It, and I did mention I'm at the beginning of it,
872
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.480
and I don't want a really long film. I just
873
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.559
don't like it until I'm in a film that I'm
874
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.559
really enjoying. Then I just wanted to go on forever.
875
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:13.360
But it felt like a cheat to just like skip
876
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.400
so quickly, like that whole sequence, which should have been
877
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.679
like twenty minutes or something like maybe five. Maybe, you know,
878
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.719
It's just I thought it was crazy the way we
879
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:24.719
just did that.
880
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.800
The entire lead up to them in the cave, and
881
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.679
conversation should have been spent in conversation, because when de
882
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.840
Niro is telling him his woes, I'm very locked in.
883
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.239
People who said he's miscast, by the way, I want
884
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.480
to reiterate, are idiots. He's great here.
885
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.519
I only ever hear de Niro's voice one time, one time,
886
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.920
and it's weird when it slipped through, and it is
887
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.119
in that is in that monologue. It just slips once.
888
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.119
But how I mean, with that voice, how can you
889
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.599
help it right? But I just say, it's so convincing.
890
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.320
I'm so convinced he is the monster. Although and I
891
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.880
want to get to something about it. The makeup design
892
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.440
doesn't make sense. Nope, it's not very good.
893
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.199
It's once again, just as Broano was, I'm going to
894
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.559
do muscular, athletic Victor Frankenstein. We have to not in
895
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:23.880
any way do what they've done before with this monster,
896
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.000
which is very limiting. It's been done. The character has
897
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:32.400
been drawn and sculpted and makeuped over sixty years by now,
898
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.119
seventy eighty years by now. So yeah, you got to
899
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.559
do something different, but maybe just make it scary because
900
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.639
he needs to be scary. As it is, it looks
901
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:45.079
like a man who was involved in an accident. Yeah,
902
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.079
the townspeople's reactions to him are Yeah, little children would
903
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:53.679
point and cry, certainly, and people would have some yeah,
904
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.400
of course, and people would have some rude things to say.
905
00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.280
But it wouldn't be like, oh my god, it's a monster.
906
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.840
If you saw born Karlov coming down the street, yeah,
907
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:10.559
you're gonna run, Christopher leaven and I wouldn't also, you know,
908
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.039
we'd be like, come on, dude, let's go.
909
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.960
I'm just going out on the time with you. But
910
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:19.639
at the same time, and they do it again with
911
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.320
Boncar spoilers at the end.
912
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:23.400
They do it with.
913
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.519
Her at the end where there was no reason for
914
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.400
the cuts on the face to be stitched up. Because
915
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.559
there's no reason for the cuts to be on the face.
916
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.360
It's no. They tried to do this thing
where they
917
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.239
light her head on fire and then we want those burns,
918
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:42.239
but we don't because we want her to be monstrous,
919
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.840
and the only way to be monstrous is stitching. But
920
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.000
they light they lit her head on fire, they've melted
921
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.639
her face. She's not looking great. I think that'll do
922
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.960
it right, Yeah, but oh no, let's stitch up an eye.
923
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.079
We haven't seen that before, Like, how about make her sexier?
924
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.079
How about that go on all the way? It makes
925
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.360
it seem like something we haven't seen dead after fucking Bardess.
926
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.119
Very very annoying because I mean, you said it. There
927
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.400
are so many things in this film that could be
928
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:18.519
the best ever Frankenstein film for me, and it just
929
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.800
fails at certain moments that are like, Wow, why did
930
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.119
you do that? I don't understand why you did. It
931
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.519
was unnecessary to do it, but they did.
932
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:26.920
Well.
933
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.400
I want to look at this bit of my note
934
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.440
because I don't know why I've said it. Oh I do.
935
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.800
It's the mountains. I got extremely angry in my notes
936
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:36.920
when he was in the mountains. It's like, why are
937
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.880
we here? Two minutes ago he was at home, Like this.
938
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:44.400
Is too quick. Now we'll go to the Alps for
939
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:49.159
some reason? What walk we can? I tell you the
940
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.960
scariest part of this movie, please, The fucking staircase in
941
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:59.800
Frankenstein manor that railingless giant staircase in the house, terrifying.
942
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.199
Imagine walking in night and go I gotta go down
943
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:09.840
and get a sandwich and waa another one. When are
944
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.159
we getting a railing Papa?
945
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.960
That I've made a note of it because I was
946
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.400
it was the best thing about the first forty minutes
947
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.760
I thought was that staircase agreed. There was a moment
948
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where they have a row and Bonco runs up it
949
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.320
and like she's like, wow, this could be a long
950
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.760
scene and it fights out.
951
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:33.239
It fights out on her. They had to. I think overall,
952
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.559
the production design in this movie is beautiful. I thought
953
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.760
they did a great job. The costumes are fucking fantastic.
954
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:41.599
They're a little too cost to me, a little two
955
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.760
sometimes it looks like they were just made. But I
956
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.679
will say, of if there's a problem with Frankenstein's makeup,
957
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.880
there's no problem with that great cloak that they put
958
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:55.280
him in. That's fantastic looking and menacing as hell. Costumes
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00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.239
overall really great. My problem with it is that Branna
960
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.360
is going for He wants it to be grubby and
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gross because the times were grubby and gross. But he's
962
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.960
so hung up on melodramatic epic that he can't get
963
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.159
out of his own way. He shoots this movie like
964
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.679
he would eventually shoot his version of Hamlet. It's very
965
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:24.159
softly focused in lit in places, so even when they're
966
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.920
like rolling around in the dirt in the alleyways. It
967
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.199
doesn't look all that, it doesn't look unsanitary. It looks
968
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.679
like they're gonna wash that off because they're actors in
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00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:34.159
a movie.
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00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.320
Yeah, even when he is in the shed next to
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the pig sty, like he's literally living in a pig sty,
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00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.559
it seems all right. It seems like, well, that's the
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00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.840
best time that you know, he's ever going to have
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00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:53.000
in fact, in his sorry life. So yeah, I don't know,
975
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.519
And we've got it. Before we finish this, we need
976
00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:00.199
to mention the ending. This film's bookended, much like the
977
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.119
book is book nded. Yes, so with regards to it,
978
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.559
we've got different set of characters. We're on an expedition
979
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:10.840
to find I think it was a north Pole. I
980
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.840
think that's where we're going, and they come across Frankenstein
981
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.679
and the monster. Now I know how cynical it was
982
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.800
to put it all in there, like because he wanted
983
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.280
to do things that hadn't been seen before.
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00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.360
But I really liked it.
985
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.800
I liked the whole idea of that, and I've got
986
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.960
nothing against it, no problem with it at all. In fact,
987
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:36.119
rather enjoyed the way that was done. So I'm okay
988
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.440
with it again.
With the reviews, a few people were
989
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.880
saying it's unnecessary and I wouldn't mention it unless it
990
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.559
was if it was one, But there was a few
991
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.960
people saying it was a bit like just added on
992
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.599
to pad out the running time.
993
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.199
And I don't see that. I'm sort of I don't
994
00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.360
feel one way or another about it. Like I did
995
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:58.159
appreciate seeing it portrayed. I just think it fumbles the
996
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:02.360
ball in the scared department because being trapped on this
997
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:06.280
ship in the ice and this madman climbs aboard and
998
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.239
now there's a monster out there that wants him. What
999
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.559
a potent setup for the rest of this movie while
1000
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.239
he's telling the tale, Yes, as the monster is getting
1001
00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.360
more and more crew members just because it wants this guy.
1002
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.480
Like it could have been fucking great. But what we
1003
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.360
get is him just it is a book end. It's
1004
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.039
here's my story and then at the end, don't do
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00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:28.639
what I did.
1006
00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:35.199
Okay, we do get an iconic sort of it's almost
1007
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.760
like a painting of the monster's death, and like, I
1008
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.199
really did enjoy that, and I wrote, Okay, that looks iconic.
1009
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.960
I like that we're talking about the bonfire yeah. Yeah,
1010
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.079
we're talking about like what they call it, like a
1011
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.920
pire a funeral. Yeah, so I like that, and like
1012
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.000
the whole way like that that's his like father and burning,
1013
00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.719
and then he's burning within it as well, and just like,
1014
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.719
oh man, that looks good, okay, and then it's sort
1015
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.960
of as it finished. It just left me so conflicted
1016
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.400
about what i'd seen because those moments that I enjoyed,
1017
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.960
I didn't just enjoy. I enjoyed it like it's my
1018
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.440
favorite ever film enjoyment. I loved certain moments, But I've
1019
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.639
never had that experience with a film that just pissed
1020
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.840
me off so many times.
1021
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.679
It's the weirdest experience. It's a complicated film in that
1022
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.320
regard because it is so clumsy for so long, but
1023
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.199
then when it shines, it really shines. The moments that
1024
00:58:34.239
--> 00:58:37.360
I've mentioned that I really enjoyed I were magnified a
1025
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.440
thousand times on the rewatch. So I understand what you're saying.
1026
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.599
It's a bad movie, though, Paul, don't kid yourself. It's
1027
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.920
number two next to the original the OG. No, Well,
1028
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:50.000
you are so wrong. I hear you popping off about
1029
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:51.639
stuff all the time. We're not even going to bring
1030
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.960
up Young Frankenstein right now. But now you've just gone
1031
00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.559
too far by even putting this in your top five.
1032
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.119
Frank and Stein should be on your list before this movie.
1033
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:10.599
Ow day, Okay, I will try Young Frankenstein again, though,
1034
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.000
because I think it's my most common email that I
1035
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.599
get is people just tell me I'm wrong.
1036
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.760
So because you are. This is just two ways about it.
1037
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.880
I mean, but Father Malone, where are you gonna take
1038
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:26.519
us for a double bill?
1039
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.599
Where's it going for? You stole Franken Hooker from me,
1040
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.480
so I'm not gonna go there. Although that's a natural
1041
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:35.599
that movie has a problem just because it has that
1042
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.719
goomba character, that fucking guy who showed up in a
1043
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.840
bunch of trauma movies for two seconds, that which which
1044
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.679
admittedly is a character you've never seen in a horror
1045
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:49.000
movie before the what is this ship? What's doing over there? Monster?
1046
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.079
Or what? We haven't really seen that guy. I guess
1047
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.599
we did back in the Dead End Kids days of
1048
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.880
the anyway, So not Franken Hooker. But I based on
1049
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:04.199
the characterization of the monster how he's presented dramatically here,
1050
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.119
which I think is the best part of the movie,
1051
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.119
I would recommend not a movie, but a television series
1052
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:14.480
that would be Penny Dreadful, where it's basically a monster
1053
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.679
mash team up thing where that we've were mixing and
1054
01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:22.079
matching all of the Victorian horror characters. There is a
1055
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.679
Mina Harker character, and a there's a Wolfman and a
1056
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.519
Dracula and Frankenstein. There's a Victor Frankenstein who is the
1057
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.400
more sort of drug addicted ready portrayal of what he
1058
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:36.960
would probably actually be like. And the monster, on the
1059
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:41.159
other hand, is fucking fantastic and just as soulful and
1060
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:46.079
as vicious and unpredictable as he would actually be. I think,
1061
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.079
if you want the true Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, take a
1062
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.519
step outside that book entirely and check out what they
1063
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.639
were doing on Penny Dreadful for two seasons. It's fucking phenomenal.
1064
01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:57.840
So I found that.
1065
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.400
In a in this country it's called pound Land for
1066
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.880
both seasons. I got it for a pound So yeah,
1067
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.159
I love that. And it was because I watched episode
1068
01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.760
three I think it was, and I found it like,
1069
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.719
oh hello, like what's this and then I've never watched it.
1070
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.639
It's just sitting there gathering dust.
1071
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.119
Oh my no continue continue. In fact, when what they'll
1072
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.800
eventually get to it spoilers everybody. But this is only
1073
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.400
sort of sauce for the Goose. I think we get
1074
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.079
to meet the monster before we go flashbacks to his
1075
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:38.000
life prior to dying and becoming the monster, and interactions
1076
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.559
with other characters on the show that we did not
1077
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:44.079
know they had any interaction at all. It's really fascinating.
1078
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.320
It's really good. And I cannot remember the actor's name
1079
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.400
right now, but I know he's the son of a
1080
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.079
famous other actor and ah, it's killing me.
1081
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.920
Nevertheless, he's really good. The final thing with it, how
1082
01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:00.400
long is this two seasons? Is it like like a
1083
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:02.599
twenty two like an X Files thing or is it? No?
1084
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.079
Thank god they were following the British model by then,
1085
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.880
this was a showtime series, so I think there are ten,
1086
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.519
maybe twelve episodes per season. Okay, but you know what,
1087
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:14.840
you know what, every hour you devote to the show
1088
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.360
is going to be worth your time. Okay, I'll come mind,
1089
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.840
young Frankenstein, give it a chance. Well, for my double bill,
1090
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.440
I went for may Oh, just excellent flick. I love
1091
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.599
that movie. She's She's creepy as hell. Angela madness. I
1092
01:02:33.599 -->
01:02:36.920
believe you know it. Yeah, I don't know why she
1093
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.800
wasn't more popular. If she had made the scene right now,
1094
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.880
she'd be a huge fucking star. She'd be a goth superstar.
1095
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.039
She was right on the cusp there before goth culture
1096
01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:53.679
really exploded. Yeah, she scares me. Actually, she's more just her.
1097
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.719
The way about her in May is more scary than
1098
01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.719
the whole of this film that we've been talking about.
1099
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.559
Just her in any given scene. I agree.
1100
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.880
Hey, father mellow, thank you very much for chatting with
1101
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.239
me about missus Mary Shelley and her Frankenstein.
1102
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:10.719
Always a pleasure.
1103
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.679
Okay, I've only just discovered this thing. I found it
1104
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.239
on YouTube, so I can't really say if I like.
1105
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.599
It or not yet.
1106
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:26.719
Whilst I was watching a film, it was way too much.
1107
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:31.079
It was way overbearing. But I've listened to it once
1108
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.280
already and I think it's okay separated from the film
1109
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.519
so far, but it needs a few more spins now.
1110
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.239
This is only one of four horror movie scores that
1111
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:44.599
Patrick Doyle has actually bothered scoring. Not a very huge
1112
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.639
horror fan this one. But the other one that he's
1113
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.360
done is a two thousand and six take on Jekyll
1114
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:54.800
and Hyde, a scary kids film called Igor and Stephen
1115
01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:00.000
King also ran adaptation called Needful Things, so there's his reports.
1116
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.360
Whilst I already know Needful Things, I don't really rate
1117
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.039
that score. This one's already a lot better and I've
1118
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:07.599
only listened to it once. But as I say, I
1119
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.360
can't be a judge. It's not fair. Perhaps you can, though,
1120
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.719
As I say, I found it on YouTube. So where
1121
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.920
can you find this film to watch?
1122
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:14.119
Though?
1123
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.480
Well, a few months ago you're able to watch this
1124
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.239
for free on Pluto, but it's now left that streaming service,
1125
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.280
so I don't know. I don't know how you're going
1126
01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.519
to watch yours for free right now. I guess we've
1127
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.320
just got to suck it up and spend some cash.
1128
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:33.199
As for podcasts, well, in twenty eighteen August Rewind podcast
1129
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:37.119
they focused almost two hours on this beauty and it's
1130
01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.079
a really good podcast. I would recommend that as well
1131
01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:42.559
as well as maybe if you're in the mood, just
1132
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.719
listen to this one again, because myself and father alone
1133
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.360
we smashed it, if I say so myself. That is
1134
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.000
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein