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What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In today's episode, we're going to take a swim across
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the pond and we're going to check in on the
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Joe Exotic of the Windsor family and see what Prince
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Andrew's bitch ass is getting up to now. And according
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to new reports, Prince Andrew and the royal family, well,
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they're facing the prospect of another movie coming out that
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is absolutely bashing Prince Andrew and and his relationship with
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Jeffrey Epstein, and of course for the royal family, that's
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not good news. They already are facing a slew of
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allegations when it comes to Prince Andrew. They already have
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multiple projects that they're dealing with that have been made
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or that are being made. And the last thing they
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want is another project coming out that puts Prince Andrew
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and the royal family in a bad light. And that's
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exactly what this is going to do. So, with that said,
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why don't we dive into this article from the Daily
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Mail and let's see what they have for us as
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far as Prince Andrew and this new project that's allegedly
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about to be in production. And the headline. Prince Andrew
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faces a third downfall film as firm working closely with
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Netflix explores Duke of York's character arc from Queen's favorite
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son to his scandalous friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. This
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article was authored by Natasha Livingston. Prince Andrew's fall from
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grace is to be turned into a major documentary by
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a film company working closely with Netflix. The Mail on
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Sunday understands the film will explore the Duke of York's
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character arc from a war hero and the Queen's favorite
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to the scandal over his close friendship with pedophile sex
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trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, which led to his departure from royal
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duties in 2019. Well, not just his friendship. Let's not
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forget the allegations. Very serious allegations were made against Prince Andrew.
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And while the actual act of him having sex with
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Virginia was not witnessed by anybody that has come forward,
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we have corroboration that they were seen together. Not only
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do we have the picture, we heard from Joanna Schoberg.
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We have heard from Mr. Scully. And we have heard
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from other people that Virginia and Prince Andrew were together.
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And then on the flip side of that, what have
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we heard from Prince Andrew? Well, a bunch of BS, right?
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The picture is not real. That's not me. My fingers
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are too fat. And a whole litany of other excuses
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that even fail a basic sniff test. I mean, does
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anybody believe that the Prince of England was at the
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pizza place in Woking? Give me a break already. That
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never happened. I have a hard time believing Captain Royal
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Douche over here has ever been into a pizza shop
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ever in his life. Now, he might have ordered pizza
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or sent somebody else to go get it for him,
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but did he go to the pizza shop himself, sit down,
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get himself a slice, nice Coca-Cola? I highly doubt it.
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The program is being made by the award-winning production company,
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Sandpaper Films, which is known for working with top streaming services, Netflix, Apple,
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and Amazon. And while I understand why they'd want to,
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you know, have another documentary out there about Prince Andrew,
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I don't think that they're going to be able to
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cover any road that hasn't already been traveled. So I
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doubt it'll be anything new. But it's always nice when
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there's fresh embarrassment for the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, right?
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Anytime that this guy can be embarrassed, anytime that he
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can be outed once again as the dirtbag coward that
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he is, I think it's a good idea. because people
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need to be aware of scumbags like Prince Andrew and
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that their BS narratives are just that, BS narratives. Sandpaper
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has already made several films about the royal family, including
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the 2017 film Diana, Seven Days, which analyzed her final
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days and featured interviews with Prince William and Prince Harry.
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So I'm not really hip on any of these royal movies.
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As you all know, I really don't care about the
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royal family one way or the other, And if it
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wasn't for this whole entire Epstein controversy, I wouldn't talk
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about the royal family at all. The days of me
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caring about the king and the queen, that shit ended
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in 1776. I have no desire to care or even
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think about what these scumbag royals have to say or
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what they think. And I find it beyond bizarre that
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anybody cares what these people think at this point. We're
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in the year 2024, and we're still worried about what
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some weird-ass royal has to say? Other productions tackled the
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war crimes trial of genocidal Bosnian Serb military leader Ratko
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Miletic and the 2012 Rochdale sex trafficking ring. So this
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company is not strangers to making documentaries like this, and
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now they have their sights set on the Joe Exotic
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of the Windsor family. So I'm interested to see what
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they come up with. I don't think it's going to
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be anything groundbreaking, obviously, but it's always fun to watch
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Prince Andrew squirm. And I'd be lying to you all
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if I said I didn't get a kick out of it.
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Anytime you have somebody like this who has had the
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whole entire world given to them and they've squandered it,
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you can expect a shock and awe campaign of mockery
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coming from me. You know how hard the rest of
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us have to work? Just to pay our bills? To
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put food on the table? To make sure that our
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families are doing okay? And this guy's out here hanging
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out with Epstein, hanging out with arms dealers, hanging out
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with Gaddafi, and nobody gives a shit. Ah, you know,
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that's just Prince Andrew. Good old Prince Andrew. Kind of
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like the old days when you had a touchy uncle, huh? Ah,
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that's just Uncle So-and-So. He's kind of weird. He likes
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to touch you. Wait, what? What does that even
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Shouldn't Uncle Touchy not be invited to any more of
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the family functions? I mean, in the real world, that's
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what happens. But when you're a royal and you're a
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Prince Andrew, you have a different set of rules that
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you live by. Producers are said to be keen to
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approach Andrew's former private secretary, Alistair Watson, who worked for
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the Duke between 2003 to 2012. If he cooperated, insiders say,
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this could be bad news for the Duke, as Mr.
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Watson knows where the bodies are buried. Well, yeah, he
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would know. He was the head of security. We've had
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several people come out now and talk about Prince Andrew's
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behavior while he was in their charge, whether it was
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a maid, whether it was a housekeeper, whether it was security.
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We've heard from so many people about this man's character,
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or should I say lack thereof. So why should anybody
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be surprised about these allegations? When you go through your
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whole entire life and nobody ever tells you no, and
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you're able to do whatever you want whenever you want
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to do it, do you really think that you're going
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to stop? At a point such as this, when we're
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talking about a girl that looks young, and Prince Andrew's dumbass, well,
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he'll just say, Jeffrey told me that she was overage. Oh, okay, because,
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you know, we should be believing Jeffrey Epstein. So the
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whole entire BS story that Prince Andrew packaged to us
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is exactly that, BS. and his only hope would have
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been to say that he was blackmailed from the very beginning.
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But since he didn't do that, since he never came
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out and said that, well, I wouldn't believe him now
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if he even tried to change it up. Mr. Watson
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was hired to support the Duke in his position as
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UK Trade Envoy, where he represented the government around the
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world after leaving the Royal Navy in 2001. The Duke
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faced a series of controversies in the role, including claims
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he went on holiday with a Libyan gun smuggler. Andrew
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quit the role in 2011 after stories broke about him
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visiting convicted pedophile Epstein at his home in New York
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after he was released from jail. And that's another thing
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we have to remember. Prince Andrew wasn't hanging out with
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Epstein just before he went to jail. It was after.
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So the whole entire I had no idea what he
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was up to, who he was. I don't buy that. Now,
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if other people want to buy it, that's fine. I've
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said it a million times. I'm not here to convince
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anybody of shit. I'm here to tell you how I
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see it and the way that I see this whole
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entire ordeal breaking. And the way it's breaking is the
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way it's broke from the very beginning, and that's bad.
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Respected author Andrew Lowney, who has written best-selling biographies of
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Lord Mountbatten and the Duke of Windsor, is understood to
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be acting as a consultant for the documentary. He is
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also writing a biography of Prince Andrew and his former wife,
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Sarah Ferguson, that will look closely at the Duke of
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York's time as trade envoy. I mean, the guy has
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nothing else to rest his laurels on, right? Trade envoy,
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had a little bit of time fighting over in the Falklands,
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and all of a sudden he's some big war hero,
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you know, the whole thing. But besides that, what does
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he really have to rest his hat on? I'm sure
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most of you out there have some achievements. You've done
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things in your life that you're proud of, things that
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your parents are proud of. Well, Prince Andrew, what exactly
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has he accomplished? besides being born a royal. And Lord Mountbatten,
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wasn't he a diddler too? Wasn't he out here doing
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the same ass shit? Oh, gross ass son of a bitch.
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Last night, Mr. Lowney told MOS he believes this period
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is still murky due to government documents being kept secret
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until 2065. I think there are a lot of unanswered questions,
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he said. It is understood that the new documentary... will
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not be sensationalist nor focus solely on the Duke's disastrous
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Newsnight interview in 2019. Well, that's good. We've had plenty
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to focus on that. Let's get some of the other story, right?
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Let's get some of the background story. Let's hear from
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some of the people that were around this son of
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a bitch, and let's hear what they have to say. Nevertheless,
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news of the film will further diminish hopes within the
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palace that the furor around Prince Andrew, who has always
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denied any wrongdoing, might fade from public imagination. Zero chance
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that's ever going to happen. Until he steps up, speaks
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to the FBI, and does the right honorable thing like
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he said he would do, then you can expect a
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full-on shock and awe campaign, at least on this podcast.
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The Palace is already braced for two forthcoming television dramas
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that will recreate the Newsnight interview. Netflix filmed Scoop, finished
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filming last year, and Amazon Prime's A Very Royal Scandal
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is understood to be just a few months behind. It
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follows a difficult start to the year for The Duke
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after newly released court documents released in the U.S. allege
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that Andrew had an orgy with underage girls and touched
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a woman's breast while posing with a puppet. of himself.
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The controversy heaped pressure on King Charles to evict his
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brother from Royal Lodge in Windsor, the 30-room property where
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he lives with his ex-wife Sarah, who last week revealed
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she has skin cancer. Sandpaper Films did not respond to
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a request for comment. So I'm not shocked at all
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to hear this. And my guess is we're going to
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see more movies and shows and the rest of it
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about this whole ordeal as time marches on. Because the
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interest is still there. You know what's unfortunate, though? That
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the interest from the DOJ is no longer there. Because
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if it was, well, all of these people that were
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working with him, all of his co-conspirators, starting with Sarah
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Kellen Vickers, would be arrested. And until that happens, me,
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my big mouth, and my beard will be banging on
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about it from every single mountaintop that I can get
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my feet on. Alright folks, that's going to do it
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for this one. All of the information that goes with
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this episode can be found in the description box. What's
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up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. I'm
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sure that most of you are aware that there is
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a TV show on Netflix called The Crown. And that
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TV show is a portrayal of the royal family of England. Well, conveniently,
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in this final season, this fifth season, the producers of
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this show have decided that they're just going to leave
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out the whole entire episode between Prince Andrew and Jeffrey
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Epstein and what Prince Andrew was accused of. Because, you know,
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that's not relevant or anything, especially when you're trying to
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throw a shine job on the monarchy itself. And like
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I've said many times before, the whole entire monarchy is gross.
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Every last one of them. I know that offends people
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over in the UK, at least some people, but for me,
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I have no use for any of these folks. I
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look at them like the feckless-ass politicians that have been
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elected to supposedly represent me. They don't represent me, just
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like the Royals don't represent a lot of people from
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the UK. And when you're going to whitewash shit and
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leave out a big story, like, you know, Epstein and
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Prince Andrew, how's anyone supposed to take your dumbass show seriously?
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Today's article is from Newsweek, and the author of this
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article is Jack Royston. The final season of The Crown
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will not cover Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, despite
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the major impact it would go on to have on
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the monarchy. So ask yourselves, why not? Why wouldn't they
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do that? And of course, they're going to
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all kinds of BS reasons, but the real reason is
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they don't want to bring more shame on the king
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and on the crown. But the truth is the truth,
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and Prince Andrew is what he is. and no amount
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of whitewashing is ever going to change that, because future
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generations are going to know that Prince Andrew, aka the
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Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, was a goddamn disgrace,
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no matter how much they try to protect him. Peter Morgan,
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the show's creator, has indicated that he will not touch
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one of the biggest scandals To hit the British royal family.
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In modern times. Well that's because he doesn't care. Okay
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he doesn't care. This show is about whitewashing. And gobbling
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the knob. Of the royals as a whole. And you
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know that the royal bootlickers. That are in the media.
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Are going to do whatever they can. To help safeguard.
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Their friends in the royal family. Look at what ABC
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News did with Amy Robach and with the tapes that
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she had from her interview with Virginia Roberts. Oh yeah,
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they quashed them, right? And what was the reasoning? They
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didn't want to lose access to the Royals. Can you imagine?
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ABC News would prefer to have access to the Royals
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than tell you about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. Keep that in mind.
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Because remember, lies of omission are still lies. And if
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they lie to you about this, what else are they
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lying to you about? The sixth season covers the years
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1997 to 2005, including the key period in which Virginia
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Roberts says she was forced to have sex with Andrew
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in London, New York, and the British Virgin Islands in 2001. No,
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the U.S. Virgin Islands, not the British Virgin Islands. The
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Princeton eyes the allegations, but settled out of court for
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an undisclosed sum without admitting liability. Yeah, because that's what
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innocent people do, right? I'm not liable for this. I
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didn't do this. But you know what? Here's a cool
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17 million. Let's just call it a day. Now, if
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you're Leon Black, that's acceptable, right? Because you have a
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bunch of dough. Prince Andrew is not that guy. All
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of his money comes from other people. He doesn't get
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up every morning. He doesn't go to work. He don't
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strap on no work boots. He don't do nothing of
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the sort. You know what this man does? He grifts.
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That's what he's done his whole entire life. His claim
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to fame is that he's brought absolute embarrassment on the
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royal family. That's his claim to fame. Asked about Andrew,
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Morgan told Variety simply, haven't gone anywhere near him. Well,
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why not, Mr. Morgan? Don't you think people need to
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know what happened? Don't you want to tell the actual
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history and let the truth reflect that? One explanation may
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be the challenge of depicting events in a context where
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Andrew has denied so much of Robert's account, stating that
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he never met her and indicating through lawyers that he
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believes it is at least possible a famous picture of
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him with an arm around her is a fake. Yeah,
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you know, It's possible that I have a rich uncle
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who is also the Sultan of Brunei. Is it likely? No.
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Just like it's not likely here that that picture was fake.
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We've been through this a million times now, and I'm
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not going to cover that ground again. But all of
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the people who have looked at the picture, who have
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been in the know, who know what they're talking about,
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have all said that the picture was real, it was legit,
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and that picture was taken. He told the BBC's Newsnight
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in 2019 when asked if he had had sex with Roberts, no,
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and without putting too fine a point on it, if
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you're a man, it is a positive act to have
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sex with somebody. You have to have to take some
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sort of positive action, and so therefore, if you try
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to forget, it's very difficult to try and forget a
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positive action,
and I do not remember anything. Talk about
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the world's worst denial and the fact that anybody would
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give that credence is crazy. Anyone who thinks that Prince
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Andrew's telling the truth after listening to that Newsnight interview
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should really go and have their head examined by the
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best mental health doctor on the planet, whoever that might be.
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Because unless you're suffering from CTE like Antonio Brown, I
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don't know how you could listen to Prince Andrew and
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not just be straight up disgusted. I can't. I've racked
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my brain and thinking, oh, when the first allegations, when
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the first allegations came out originally, I went, well, that's
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a bit strange. I don't remember this. And I've been
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through it and through it and through it over and
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over and over again. And no, nothing. It just never happened.
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Imagine this scumbag actually thinking people are going to believe
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this BS. Nobody believes you, Prince Andrew. They don't believe
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you in Mali. They don't believe you in Pakistan. They
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don't believe you in India. They don't believe you in America.
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They don't believe you anywhere. Hell, even the bears in
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the Arctic don't believe you. However, the existence of his
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friendship with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, sentenced to 20 years
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in prison for sex trafficking offenses in June 2022, is
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beyond a doubt. Yeah, no shit, all of it's beyond
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a doubt. And it's pretty absurd that they'd leave this
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whole entire chapter out of this show. Now, like I
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said before, I don't watch this show personally. I've never
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watched one episode even. But I would think that they're
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trying to tell, with historical accuracy... the story of the
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Windsor family, right? Isn't that the whole purpose? But you're
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going to leave this gigantic part out? Why would you
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do that? What's the point in doing that? What are
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you trying to accomplish by doing that? Are you trying
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to demean what Virginia had to say? Are you trying
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to demean the suffering that the survivors went through? We're
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going to need some answers from the creators of this show,
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and I don't want to hear any nonsense about, oh, well,
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it was a sensitive topic. Andrew was also photographed on
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a yacht surrounded by topless women while holidaying in Phuket,
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Thailand with Epstein and Maxwell in January of 2001. Now
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we all know what goes on in Thailand. Why is
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a grown-ass man going to Thailand for quote-unquote party time?
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Especially when you're this rich. They could go anywhere they want.
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But we all know that Epstein had his proclivities, right?
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So what exactly was Epstein up to in Thailand? and
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what was Prince Andrew up to while he was hanging
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out with him. And during that holiday, he went... to
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a red light district bar called Patong's Hottest Girls, number
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one for adult entertainment, according to biography Prince Andrew, Epstein, Maxwell,
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and the Palace by Nigel Cawthorn. So what were they
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doing there? Why would Prince Andrew be in Thailand? You
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have nowhere else to be, nothing better to do as
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the Prince of the Blood. And furthermore, why are you
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there with somebody who is like Jeffrey Epstein? We all
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knew what he was even back then. People might act
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like they didn't know what he was, but they knew.
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They definitely knew. There was a lot of rumors at
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the time. There were allegations at the time. And there
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were even women who have come forward at the time.
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And guess what? Those women, well, they were ignored. Meanwhile,
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Prince Andrew is benefiting from this relationship, getting rich from
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this relationship, and building all kinds of contacts on the
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back of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. But nah, let's
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not talk about it in this dumbass show. Andrew is
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not the only controversial subject Morgan has swerved, with the
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showrunner appearing to indicate that he will focus more on
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the heir, Prince William.
rather than on the spare Prince Harry,
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since the show's narrative has always been centered around the
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direct line of succession, Elizabeth, Charles, and William. I do
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little bits of dramatization of Harry, but mainly only in
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relationship to William, Morgan told Variety, so any minuscule chance
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that I might have had to ever watch this show
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has now totally been thrown right out the window. I
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have no desire to watch a show that's going to
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whitewash what Prince Andrew was up to. Now, you don't
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have to do it to a point where you're accusing
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him of being guilty, but you should talk about the
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controversy at the very least and then let people come
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to their own conclusions. But when you start whitewashing things,
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you start leaving things out and you start protecting people
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like Prince Andrew and the royal family. Well, you're going
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to leave yourself open to criticism from people who are
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following along. And in my opinion, that sort of criticism
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is certainly justified considering just how heavy this topic is
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and how many people were hurt directly and indirectly because
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of Prince Andrew's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. I would think
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that that would warrant some screen time. But I guess
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the director here and the creators, well, they have better
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things to do. All of the information that goes with
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this episode, including my contact information, can be found in
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the description box. So the article is from the Daily
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Mail and the headline is, Woman admits she was a
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schoolgirl pimp who procured 24 friends as young as 14
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for pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and was paid $ 200 for
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each victim. Well, it's nice to see that they called
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him a pedophile in the headline at least, right? You know,
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a snake is a snake, a goat is a goat,
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and Jeffrey Epstein's a pedophile. This article was authored by
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Caroline Graham. A woman has admitted procuring two dozen schoolgirl friends,
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some as young as 14, for pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein
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and being paid $ 200 for each of the victims. Now,
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the person we're talking about in this article is Haley Robson.
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And we have to remember that she was only 16
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when she was first recruited as well, right? So as
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much as I'd like to go scorched earth on her,
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I think we have to keep that in mind and
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understand the psychology behind all of this. Again, I'm certainly
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not a psychologist and I'm not qualified to even begin
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to try and look at it from that perspective clinically.
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But there is zero doubt that she was groomed and
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that Jeffrey Epstein used his narcissistic charm to get her
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to do what he wanted her to do. In a
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harrowing interview for a new Netflix documentary series, Jeffrey Epstein,
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Filthy Rich, which premieres on Wednesday, tearful Haley Robson is
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the first of Epstein's so-called recruiters to admit introducing children
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into his twisted sexual pyramid scheme for money. Now, for
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those of us who have been following the case for
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quite some time, this does not come as a shock
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to us. We know who Haley Robson is. We know
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what her role has been, and we've had time to
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digest it, right? But people who are going to watch
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this documentary for the first time on Wednesday, and I
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know several of them, it's going to come as a
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shock to them to see some of these things that
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were going on in the Jeffrey Epstein case, especially the
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first time around. And it's going to be a shock
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for them to see that people actually knew that this
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was occurring and it was still able to happen. Now,
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hopefully what this documentary does is it spurs people to
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be more interested in the case and to search out
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the deeper facts. And that is what I hope, the
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only thing that I'm hoping for, for this documentary. I,
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you know, I go into these kinds of things and
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I'm very
skeptical until I watch them because a lot
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of times they turn into hit pieces or they turn into, uh, uh, um,
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documentaries that veer off into la-la land, etc., etc. So
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obviously I have not seen this documentary yet. I don't
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know if that's what's going to occur here, but I'm
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very interested to see how they present things for the unsullied.
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And the unsullied, if you're not aware, for me, that's
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what I call people who are not locked into this case.
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I call them the unsullied because they don't know All
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of the nuances and all of the deep, deep rabbit
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hole type situations we've been dealing with in this case.
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So I'm sure a lot of them, the Unsullied, are
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going to watch this Netflix documentary and their interest is
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going to be sparked. And they're going to search out
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other content and they're going to search out more information.
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And hopefully... they find themselves here at the Jeffrey Epstein podcast,
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the Jeffrey Epstein show. That way that they can go
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a little bit deeper than just the surface, right? But
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when people hear from Haley Robson for this first time around,
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And they see her on screen and they realize that
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she was, you know, bringing girls 14 years old to
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Jeffrey Epstein. What it's going to do is bug their
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eyes right out of their head. Because a lot of
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people don't even understand that this is going on. And
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when I say a lot of people, folks, that was
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even me until I started researching this case. I had
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no idea how big of a problem all of this was. So...
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That's my hope for the Netflix documentary. My hope is
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that it spurs interest, and due to that interest, there
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is even more public outcry for tangible action to be taken. Ms. Robson,
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who was 16 when she began working for Epstein, says
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she was wracked with guilt for years until she realized
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that she was also a victim. look, this is the
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thing with her, right? It's, it's just like with Nadia Marcinkova.
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It's one of those slippery slopes. You want her to
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face justice for what she did, but if she was
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a child herself and she was being abused, well, I
471
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am certainly not qualified to go down that road and
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go into all of the nuances of what would make her, uh,
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completely culpable in a situation like that. So all I
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have to work on is my opinion and what my
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gut tells me. And what my gut tells me with
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somebody like Haley Robson is that when she was committing
477
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these crimes of procuring these young girls, she was only
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16 herself. So how do you punish somebody like that?
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What is the proper punishment for somebody like that? Again,
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I don't feel like I'm qualified to even begin to
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try and find a proper resolution for a situation like that.
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I don't have the answers there, folks. I'm sorry. I mean,
483
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my opinion is that anybody who was involved to any
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degree has to face some sort of justice unless they
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come forward and they tell everything that they know about
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the case. Then if you're a cooperating witness, then that's
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the only way I think you should get any leniency.
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00:28:33.029 --> 00:28:35.730
But when it comes to people like Haley Robson, who
489
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was 16 when this started and it occurred, and Marcinkova,
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I'm on the fence there, folks. I've went into detail
491
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about Marcinkova previously on the podcast, how I feel about that,
492
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.519
and how I feel she still needs to be punished,
493
00:28:50.920 --> 00:28:57.000
but half of the punishment that Kellen Vickers and Groff, etc. get.
494
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Because remember, Marcinkova, if the stories are to be believed,
495
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.200
was sold to Jeffrey Epstein. So she was just a
496
00:29:04.220 --> 00:29:07.349
little kid when she came over here, and Stockholm Syndrome's
497
00:29:07.390 --> 00:29:10.819
a real thing, and when you're put in a situation
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00:29:10.859 --> 00:29:14.519
with a narcissist like Jeffrey Epstein, and you're being gaslit
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00:29:14.579 --> 00:29:18.000
on a regular basis, well, upside is gonna be down,
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and down is gonna be up. It's gonna, you know,
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00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.220
your life is gonna be chaotic. So I
can't hold
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Marcinkova to the same level of responsibility that I hold
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Kellen Vickers to. Although, if Marcinkova does not cooperate then
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my opinion might change then my opinion might be that
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she deserves the full full weight of whatever the sentence
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is because she's had a chance here to redeem herself.
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She's had a chance to come forward and offer some
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help to the prosecutors, and she has not done that.
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Whereas Haley Robson here has been... Been very open about
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her role within the organization. So I think that goes
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is a notch in her favor. Right. You have to
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give her a checkmark in her favor for coming forward
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and speaking on this, because we know that there are
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a lot of people that will not even do that.
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She was introduced to Epstein in 2003 by a friend
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at Royal Palm Beach High School in Florida who said
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she can make money giving an old guy massages. But
518
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when she went to Epstein's $ 25 million mansion in Palm Beach,
519
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.900
he tried to molest her in one of the bedrooms. Ms. Robson, 33, says,
520
00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:54.589
So we see here that Jeffrey Epstein attempts to molest
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Haley Robson and she's not about it, right? She's not
522
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down with that part of the scam, with that part
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00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:04.670
of the scheme. And she tells Jeffrey Epstein that it's
524
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not going to happen. Do not, you know, try that again.
525
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:14.240
Don't touch me. But As you'll see, Jeffrey Epstein decided
526
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that even though she wouldn't be somebody that he per
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se was molesting, he could use her to bring other
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girls within his atmosphere. And he was such a predator
529
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that he recognized that right away. At that moment, he
530
00:31:31.029 --> 00:31:34.230
was like, okay, well, this isn't going to happen. So
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if you have any friends and you bring them to me,
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I will give you $ 200. Imagine that's the price Jeffrey
533
00:31:40.309 --> 00:31:45.759
Epstein put on these little girls' innocence, folks. 200 measly dollars. Now,
534
00:31:45.779 --> 00:31:49.400
to you and me, 200 bucks, it's a joke almost, right?
535
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.720
But when you're a poor kid and you're coming from
536
00:31:52.819 --> 00:31:55.890
an impoverished family and you might be coming from a
537
00:31:55.950 --> 00:31:59.109
broken home, your parents aren't around, your mom has to
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00:31:59.170 --> 00:32:03.779
work two jobs to support you and your brothers and sisters, etc., etc.,
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00:32:03.970 --> 00:32:06.859
someone offers you 200 bucks to give them a massage,
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That's like the lottery. That's like you hit the lottery.
541
00:32:10.869 --> 00:32:17.059
Because $ 200 is life-changing to somebody who's broke. And that
542
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.720
is the amount that this sick, disgusting, twisted bastard put
543
00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:28.829
on these young girls' innocence. $ 200 measly dollars, folks. I
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00:32:28.849 --> 00:32:32.230
would recruit girls who were friends. I would casually bring
545
00:32:32.269 --> 00:32:35.230
it up and we would drive together to his house.
546
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I would take them to his room and then I'd
547
00:32:37.210 --> 00:32:40.910
walk out. Sometimes I would wait by the pool. And,
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you know, reading this, it really sickens me, right? Robson,
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00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:47.839
if she was an adult when this was happening and
550
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.779
she wasn't a victim herself, I'd want her thrown into
551
00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:54.960
a volcano, a live volcano as punishment. But I have
552
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.119
to try and temper that anger and I have to
553
00:32:57.180 --> 00:32:59.579
look at all of the facts, like always here on
554
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:03.650
the Jeffrey Epstein Show, and look at everything in context
555
00:33:03.950 --> 00:33:09.569
and not let my anger overrun my good sense. Because
556
00:33:09.650 --> 00:33:13.809
if we did that, then we'd be maniacs when it
557
00:33:13.849 --> 00:33:16.819
came to this case, right? We have to keep everything
558
00:33:16.859 --> 00:33:20.440
into perspective and we have to understand that Robson, while
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what she did was abhorrent and gross... and unforgivable, we
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have to understand that she was a minor who has
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00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:31.670
abused herself, right? And the true anger in our ire
562
00:33:31.730 --> 00:33:36.549
should be directed at Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, the core four,
563
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the legacy media, and anybody within the federal government or
564
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.259
intelligence agencies that protected these people. That's where our anger
565
00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:49.660
should be directed. And it should be the anger that
566
00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:55.589
is hotter than a thousand burning suns. When the girls
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would leave, Jeffrey would come out and pay me. I
568
00:33:58.269 --> 00:34:02.630
probably recruited 24 girls. Those girls
brought other girls too.
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They were all underage. She says the youngest was 14.
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In Florida, the legal age of consent is 18. So
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think about that for a minute. She recruited 24 girls
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and then those girls brought other girls too. So it
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was definitely... a made-off kind of pyramid scheme he was running.
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We've talked about that several times here on the podcast.
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And it was almost a cult-like with Jeffrey Epstein. He
576
00:34:31.300 --> 00:34:35.860
would have all of these girls, right? Robson was responsible
577
00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:40.380
for 24 girls herself. Now, how many of those 24 girls,
578
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how many girls did they recruit each? Talk about exponential
579
00:34:44.699 --> 00:34:47.079
growth rates, right? These are the kind of numbers that
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would make Dr. Fauci blush. Ms. Robson says she was
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destroyed by guilt every day for years until she realized
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she was also a victim. I was 16. He was
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the adult. He shouldn't have asked me to do those things.
584
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.909
She's 100% right about that. 16 years old, I get it.
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00:35:05.940 --> 00:35:08.059
You know, you're a little bit older. You know, you're
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00:35:08.099 --> 00:35:11.179
learning some things in life, but you're certainly not capable
587
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:15.119
of dealing with a narcissist like Jeffrey Epstein and avoiding
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the web that he weaves. We're asking a lot from
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00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.420
this young girl. We're asking a whole lot from this
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00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.480
young girl, folks, all right? And again, I'm not absolving
591
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.860
her of her responsibility for what she did. You know
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I'm not in that business. I'm not a priest. I'm
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00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.320
not here to absolve anybody of anything. But what I
594
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:36.239
am here to do is to read in between the lines,
595
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:44.409
like usual. And my anger is squarely focused on Jeffrey Epstein,
596
00:35:44.469 --> 00:35:48.869
Ghislaine Maxwell, and the rest of Robson is somebody who
597
00:35:48.969 --> 00:35:52.349
probably I mean obviously I don't know her I've never
598
00:35:52.389 --> 00:35:54.679
met her talk to her or anything like that but
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00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.460
she's probably somebody who's dealing with her own issues because
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00:35:58.500 --> 00:36:01.739
of this whole entire situation and I would hope that
601
00:36:01.820 --> 00:36:05.760
she would reach out to the authorities come forward sit
602
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.199
down with them go under oath and let them know
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00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.340
everything that she knows and Even if she's talked to
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the authorities before, like in Palm Beach, I'm talking about
605
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.360
sitting down with the federal prosecutors, going through it all again.
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And if she needs to be helped, if she needs
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00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:25.500
to get some sort of trauma help or PTSD help,
608
00:36:25.860 --> 00:36:28.340
I believe that that should be provided to her. You know,
609
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.440
she was a kid when she was abused. And, you know,
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00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.550
as a as human beings, I think that we have
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to do our best to be compassionate in situations like this. Right. Again,
612
00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:45.480
it's a very slippery slope. The gripping four-part Netflix series
613
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.199
tells how Epstein, who killed himself in jail last summer
614
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after being arrested on child sex charges, set up a
615
00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:55.320
sophisticated web of recruiters using girls to lure their friends
616
00:36:55.380 --> 00:36:58.460
from at least four high schools near his home. Epstein
617
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:03.530
preyed on girls from difficult backgrounds. And again... I've pointed
618
00:37:03.550 --> 00:37:07.619
this out several times and it's been a dead end
619
00:37:07.659 --> 00:37:10.360
for me. I haven't been able to chase any leads
620
00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:15.840
down that have been concrete that have been something that
621
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:20.929
has been worthwhile even. And that angle is, if Jeffrey
622
00:37:20.989 --> 00:37:23.050
Epstein was doing this in New York and he was
623
00:37:23.090 --> 00:37:26.630
doing it in Palm Beach, chances are he was doing
624
00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:31.099
it in New Mexico as well. And New Mexico has
625
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.260
a very big problem with indigenous girls going missing. And
626
00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:40.090
Albuquerque in general has a lot of really poor areas.
627
00:37:40.570 --> 00:37:43.670
So I think it would be a fertile hunting ground
628
00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:48.510
for Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. Although I cannot find
629
00:37:48.590 --> 00:37:51.710
anything saying that that occurred in Santa Fe, I mean
630
00:37:51.789 --> 00:37:56.199
in Albuquerque as well. But my gut tells me it did. Obviously,
631
00:37:56.219 --> 00:37:59.639
I have no evidence to prove that, but it's the
632
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:03.670
same blueprint he's used elsewhere. What would make us think
633
00:38:03.730 --> 00:38:06.190
that he is not going to use the same blueprint
634
00:38:06.449 --> 00:38:11.679
within the borders of New Mexico, especially how politically juiced
635
00:38:11.719 --> 00:38:19.909
he was there? Psychologist Catherine Stamilis
described Epstein's recruitment system
636
00:38:19.969 --> 00:38:23.230
as a sexual pyramid scheme saying he was a brilliant
637
00:38:23.309 --> 00:38:27.300
narcissistic billionaire. I don't believe he was not brilliant. Sorry.
638
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.780
He was narcissistic, no doubt about it, but he was
639
00:38:29.820 --> 00:38:33.619
not brilliant. Adolescents could not cope with that. No, the
640
00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:36.739
narcissism they cannot cope with. And I wouldn't say brilliant
641
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.940
because he's not brilliant. He was devious and he was manipulative,
642
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:44.050
but he was not brilliant. All right. Not in the least.
643
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.179
The show's director, Lisa Bryant, who spent 20 months making
644
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:52.619
Filthy Rich, used a secret computer server and kept all
645
00:38:52.699 --> 00:38:55.619
footage under lock and key for fear of retribution from
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00:38:55.659 --> 00:39:00.210
the billionaire pedophile. The program claims he kept surveillance tapes
647
00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:03.969
from all his homes to blackmail the rich and powerful. Well,
648
00:39:04.050 --> 00:39:06.909
we've known that from the beginning, folks, right? We've known
649
00:39:06.949 --> 00:39:09.789
that and we know that it's a fact. We know
650
00:39:09.829 --> 00:39:13.250
it's not speculation at this point. But again, what the
651
00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:17.980
documentary is going to do is it's going to show
652
00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:21.300
that to people who might not have known, people who
653
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.590
might not have searched out the content previously. And again,
654
00:39:24.610 --> 00:39:27.969
the more outrage that we can get in this case,
655
00:39:28.010 --> 00:39:32.940
the better, because without the outrage, there's going to be
656
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:37.699
no movement. And we all know that people like Berman
657
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:42.239
and the attorney generals and district attorneys, their public image
658
00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:45.400
is very important to them. So as long as we
659
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.079
keep getting the outcry to get to these levels where
660
00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:51.159
we see it at right now from the public who
661
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.400
has had enough of seeing these young ladies get screwed
662
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.199
over by not only Jeffrey Epstein, but by the government, well,
663
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the better chance we have for justice taking place in
664
00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:06.400
this case. Ms. Bryant said, we started working on this
665
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before Epstein was arrested. He proved time and again that
666
00:40:10.420 --> 00:40:14.159
power and money helped him evade justice. We knew we
667
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:18.219
couldn't be too careful. She's right about that. Jeffrey Epstein,
668
00:40:18.340 --> 00:40:20.340
he was that kind of guy and his associates are
669
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.900
those kind of people. You do not know who you're
670
00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:26.260
dealing with until you're dealing with them. And for some people,
671
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.550
that's a very scary situation, right? There are some people
672
00:40:29.610 --> 00:40:32.130
that will not talk about things like this because they
673
00:40:32.170 --> 00:40:36.210
are very scared of retribution. There are people that don't
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want to take the chance of having to deal with
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00:40:39.010 --> 00:40:42.099
the blowback. And I get it, not everybody's willing to
676
00:40:42.139 --> 00:40:44.980
be on the front line. Me personally, I don't care
677
00:40:45.019 --> 00:40:47.389
about blowback. I don't care about any of these people.
678
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.349
There is not one single person that is ever associated
679
00:40:51.389 --> 00:40:54.469
with Jeffrey Epstein that pumps one bit of fear into
680
00:40:54.530 --> 00:41:01.090
my heart. Zero fear. These people, to me, are the
681
00:41:01.150 --> 00:41:04.949
biggest lame asses in the history of the world. These
682
00:41:04.989 --> 00:41:08.090
are the sort of people that need to be crushed
683
00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:13.610
under heel. The days of them making others fear them,
684
00:41:14.190 --> 00:41:17.880
those days are over, folks, because the year 2020, that
685
00:41:17.940 --> 00:41:23.300
is the year the predator turns into the prey. Virginia Roberts,
686
00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:25.719
the woman who claims Epstein forced her to have sex
687
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.119
with Prince Andrew three times, the first when she was
688
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:33.050
just 17 in 2001, also speaks out in the documentary.
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Prince Andrew has denied and claims that no wrongdoing has
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ever occurred During his infamous car crash interview on BBC's
691
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Newsnight last November, he denied ever knowing Miss Roberts. Yeah,
692
00:41:47.329 --> 00:41:49.510
you know, that picture was fake, all that stuff. It's
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just all made up. Virginia's story is just all made up,
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and we should believe this. We should believe the Joe
695
00:41:54.630 --> 00:41:57.500
Exotic of the royal family because he is a very
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00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.460
honorable man. You know, he told us that. And he
697
00:42:00.500 --> 00:42:02.679
wears the honorable kit when he wants us to think
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00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:11.150
he's honorable. Frickin' clown. She was interviewed by Netflix two
699
00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:14.369
days after the Newsnight program aired and says, I'm watching
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it on my tablet. I wanted to throw my tablet
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in the pool. As a victim, the one thing you
702
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:23.320
ask for is some acknowledgement, some remorse. This guy, Prince Andrew,
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00:42:23.619 --> 00:42:28.039
didn't have any remorse at all. And that statement right
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there is why I have zero remorse for any of
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these people. No quarter asked, no quarter given. Game on.
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Because these people play for keeps, folks. They're not out here.
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They're not playing around with the survivors. They're not, you know,
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they weren't messing around while they were out here conducting
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their affairs. So they must be met with the same
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sort of aggression. They must be met with the same
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sort of fire. The best defense is offense. And in
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this case, that is certainly proven to be true. If
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you'd like to contact me, you can do that at
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BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. You can also
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find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I.