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speaker-1: Hi there, I'm Toot Whitley, and this is Conversion Therapy, a podcast where I help lost lambs back to the heterosexual pasture. As you may know, I myself am a reformed homosexual. In fact, I was once the doorman for a group sex party in a hair salon called A Few Inches Off the Top. Where jocks of all hair textures made love across the shampoo bowls and diestation. Now the only strong man with great hair I'm concerned with is Samson. So if I can get straight, so can you. And so can our guest. Please open your hearts to bisexual James Jellen. James. Hi. So nice to have you on here today. I know that it's been a long road for you to get here, hasn't it? It's been a really, really long road. So it's ⁓ ba so do you know about what bisexual is? Yes, so I I had some experience with bisexuals in the community, ⁓ you know, when I was a homosexual. Right. But why don't you tell me a little bit about your experience? So we're kind of like the biracial people of the queer community, you know, always existing in between two worlds. Always existing not quite one thing, not quite the other, you know? Sort of like biracial people, but for the queer community. Yeah, you know, this makes a lot of sense to me that you you know, being white would experience something similar to a person of color ⁓ because of your sexuality. That's exactly what that that is a one to one equivalent. That ratio makes complete sense to me. Yeah, well you know I used to go to these slam poes and people would do these slam poems about being biracial and was like, Why is this resonating? You know what I mean? So we're like, wait, but why does that sound like me? And then you know, and then a man would would give a poem like that, I'd be like, This is great. And then a woman would give a poem like that and be like, this is great. And I was like, wait, why do I like both? Yeah, if you're enjoying both poems, that's usually a sign, you know, you're on you're on the ⁓ highway to hell, as it were. And it, you know, it just got worse from there. You know, I started wearing vertical striped shirts and I started getting hexagonal glasses. A lot of ⁓ lines and shapes in the bisexual community. ⁓ my god. When I'm at H and Mm and I see a shirt with triangles, squares, circle it's like I go crazy. I need it, I need it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, one thing about bisexuals is they can't choose just one shape. And that does feel, you know, like it ultimately is an extension of the sexuality that it's not just circles, it's not just triangles, it's circles and triangles and squares for that matter. Squares and squares for that matter. Yeah. But just to be clear as a bisexual person. Only men and women. Only men and women. Okay. Nothing mixing it in between. Okay, you're not doing any of the sort of ⁓ you're not looking along a spectrum of gender as I've heard it referred to. You're looking at the two poles on either end. And that's how you believe it should be, is the energy I'm getting. Absolutely. I I believe I'm attracted to Women who are so tiny and weak. So tiny and weak. Frail like a brail boot. Barely able center of gravity completely thrown off by those proportions, by the way. Massive honkers, tiny, tiny little ankles. Tiny wrists like a bob like a golf tee. Tip it all over like one of those toys that ⁓ Weebles always wobble with the And then ⁓ and then men, I want a big hairy. Mean mean angry. Yeah, angry. Wow. Yeah, and so anything in between not for me. But it just got you know, it just got really bad. I started wearing I know, you know, that's the first time. I started playing D D. You that I that and bisexuals do feel drawn to that too. Absolutely. I started doing stage managing. You know, it's just I was just going down this really dark path. That's you know, it's true. I feel like bisexual men, you know, take on the qualities of butch lesbians, stage managing. And really ⁓ sort of ⁓ musical theatery gays, yeah, DD. know. Sort of combo those two qualities. And you know, it got to the point where I couldn't even sit in a chair right. I mean the fact that I'm even sitting like I am in a channel. I mean, you're little your ankles are sort of twirled around each other twice down here for the audience at home. It is true. My ankles are twirled into an absolute knot down below the camera. Top line hitch, waist down. Really bad. You know, but you're here and that's what matters. We're gonna go on this journey together. And you know, the fact that you've taken the step to you know Change today, that that's really what we're looking for you to do. So 'cause my friends all say I'm really annoying, so I think I to change. That's the you know, I a lot of bisexuals come through my doors and that's true. Yeah. And the main thing they say is, How do I stop being so annoying? Yeah. And they go, How do I stop doing that? Yeah. And I say, you know, listen, the Lord made you right and somewhere along the path you lost your way. Yeah. And we're gonna get you right back on the path. Cause here's the thing straight people are never annoying. Straight people are never annoying. They're always fun to be around. They have all correct opinions. Absolutely. And they never ⁓ think weird things. Yeah. They only think things that are good and that God likes. You know, and it's interesting because you're talking about, you know, when you start going down the wrong path. And for me it's like, well, can I go down both paths? And see that's an issue of bisexuality. Yeah, and that's it's like and sort like one path is like one race and the other's like the other. Like if I was like biracial, but instead I'm Really, really linked to that metaphor. ⁓ and and I do think that it's beautiful you found a way to express yourself. I am curious, yeah, on a scale of the shining to Megan, how gay would you say you are? You know, shining being straight, of course, Megan being absolute gay into the spectrum. I'm kind of like Captain America, but the scene where
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he's shirtless. Okay, so we're going with contextually straight. Thematically gay. Exactly. Okay. You know, I can respect that. It's good that you lets us know, you know, w we have to know where we are to know where we're going, you know? So that's that helps me understand where you're where you're setting. That is so smart. Mm. Thank you. You know, I've been doing this for a long time. Hundred percent success rate, by the way. And so it's really important to me, you know, that I'm connected to the people who are in the chair across from me because I love them, I care for them. And when you love someone, you want them to only believe what you believe. That's what love is all about. Is changing people and making them more like you. Exactly. So I am curious, you know, it says here you do you you have done drag in the past under the name Laya Bea. That's right. So do you think that has contributed to your bisexuality? ⁓ Leia Bea. Labia. Yeah. Okay, I understand. Alright, well that's not so bad. That's funny. That's good. Why are you not good? ⁓ well, you know that you have an interest in ⁓ vulva vagina. That's good. It's a good indicator to me. Yeah, I'm definitely interested in vulva Okay. Good, that's good. I'm definitely interested in my water vulva. I'm interested in vagina. Labia, menora, majora. Wow. I am Jewish. Three things. Three things that are similar to each other. ⁓ my god. And that's interesting, you know. As a Jewish man, I love the labia menorah. I hear you could spend about eight days down there. No problem. That's right. I could spend eight days down there easily. And at first I think I'm gonna run out of air. And you don't. Eight days later I'm still there. Our Lord Jewish miracle. And you know, it's interesting to me because I, of course, am a Catholic. I'm of a Christian faith and ⁓ you chose your conversion therapy. Come here with ⁓ kinda, you know, process that through Catholicism. So we we will be focusing on that a little bit today. But I I am very grateful that, you know, you are I would even say perhaps sort of there's transference going on that you're gonna get rid of the bisexuality, but you're gonna sort of take on a bi-religionality. ⁓ being sort of Jewish and Catholic. Yeah. Interesting. ⁓ Sort of existing in between worlds. Sort of like if I was like half Mexican and half white. Sort of just existing. Kind of interesting. Really keep bringing. Back to that. That's okay. Okay, so I am curious. I am Jewish. I am curious, Leia Bea has that exper has that experience playing her, being her as a drag queen, confronting for your bisexuality. That was a dark time in my life because I was really sort of embracing the gay when I was doing that. And that was really bad. ⁓ because you know I'd be being really funny and I'd be Knowing pop culture. And you'd be sort of looking beautiful. And looking beautiful and I just think, you know, I was getting a lot of attention and that was helpful. But I just think it was yeah, I mean, I
think honestly, ⁓ it was a little bit too much of mixing. I think I think I again You need your rigid poles. I need to either be w ⁓ yeah, everybody should be one hundred percent big strong man or one hundred percent teen tiny boomer boobs falling over. Giant boobs, otherwise plastic bag floating in the wind. Absolutely. Okay. Unable to stand. Mm-hmm. Okay, well, you know, I'm glad that you've reached that point because we would have had to, you know, eliminated that element of your life anyway. So I'm glad that you've moved past Ray. Yes, I'm done with that. I'm very curious. You know, it's important on the journey. It's not even funny. It's actually not even funny. Speak more on that. It's just like it's just like not really funny. It's like, ⁓ you're gonna like make fun of women. Mm-hmm. That's what drag is all about. Yeah. ⁓ and as we know, drag too misogynistic. Mm-hmm. Drag is an art form that's based in ⁓ making women feel bad and weird. That's right. and actually it's crazy because I have heard that drag, you know, is not about thinking about what a woman could be. Yeah. And ⁓ you know Queer trans people thinking, you know, what how do I present the performance of femininity ⁓ in a way to construct and expand to not what it is? No, and what it is instead is mango wig, mango ha ha lady. And when mango ha ha lady, I think that ain't right. That's not right. As when a man puts on a wig, it is exactly the same as him saying Yeah. It's the same as when a man puts on a wig, he's going I'm a little woman. I'm a little woman. Girl's dumb. Girl's dumb. That's the exact same thing. It's one to one. That's what drag is. So it's yeah, I mean it's just not funny. Well, okay, so I'm glad we're on the same page about that. I will say, you're about to go on a very difficult journey, you know. Becoming straight, that's a hard thing. I know. You gotta have a goal at the end of the tunnel. I gotta know. What are you most looking forward to about being straight? I'm just really looking forward to ⁓ having like more strength and agility in my fingers because I won't have to be wearing all those rings. Yeah, you know, those wings really weigh you down. I've seen photos of you where you're wearing thirty to forty rings. Absolutely. And you have nice hand you have a s you have a sizable hand, you know? Thank you. But at the same time, you know, heavy is the hand that wears the ring, as they say. Heavy is the hand that wears the forty five rings and sort of You know, so heavy in the hands that often my hands have to be on the ground and having to do handstands and I'm just walking around doing the handstands and I'm just thinking to myself, I gotta stop being bi. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, one thing about bisexual people is they're always doing handstands. Absolutely. And their hands are so heavy. And when you get in the airport, nobody wants to be behind in the line of security 'cause you're huffing and puffing, ripping all those rings off, you know. And you're mixing metals, all sorts of things. It ain't good. Gold, silver. Bronze. You got all the Olympic medals in there. Ten ten for sure. Well, I mean, I've known a bisexual to wear like ⁓ the handle of a spoon that's been bent around into a handle. The handle of a spoon that's been bent around. Mm-hmm. That's one of the core medals. I think that's on the table of elements, if I'm not mistaken. Okay, and I'm also curious, this isn't gonna be an easy journey, as we've said. What do you think might be the toughest obstacle for you on your journey to straightness? Yeah, I think just like not being able to talk about like being bi all the time. It's gonna be like, so what is my personality? You know what I mean? Like, do I like movies or Did I just like talking about challengers? Like, do I like music or do I just like Jason Moraz? You know what I mean? It's like, what does you know, what does going out look like if I'm not wearing a fedora? Like it's just gonna be like I'm gonna have to like I would say ninety percent of the things that I like and who I am and what I talk about is buy stuff, and it's just like I'm gonna have to figure out like all new stuff. I know it's gonna be crazy when you're not jangling around Los Angeles with all your Rigs and your hat tilted over your eyes. Talking about Zende and those two little pale boys we are walking around on my Fedora on my feet, hands on the ground with all my rings. Scraping along the pavement. Scraping along the pavement, screaming, Josh, Josh, ⁓ God, are you so hot? You know? It's gonna be wild to see who you become without the. Why didn't I fuck in it? Kissing only, but it was still so good. I mean, it's like, what am I gonna be? Yeah, I mean, you know, I've I've have seen your letter box. That's Jason Raz and I'm your me with my rings on the sidewalks to sound like scrap bumbi bat bombe. You know, it's just I'm gonna have to be a whole new person, Fedora on the feet. That's really tough. So I want to get an idea of how far you've strayed from God's line. So we're gonna do a couple exercises. This is name that word or phrase. So I'm gonna say the first and last letter of a word or phrase. And you tell me the first word or phrase that comes to mind. Okay. It that begins and ends with those letters. So for example, if I say a word starting with G and ending in D, you might say God. ⁓ okay. Or go with God. Okay. So whatever comes to mind first is right. Okay. It doesn't have to be ⁓ we're we're trying to test your instincts here, see how gay your instincts are so we know how far we gotta go to keep it straight. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna close my eyes. Okay. So a word or phrase that starts with C and ends with. Okay, I mean it I mean it's supposed to end with K. It starts with C, ends with K. Pictures of boys and girls. Okay, so we got the C, we got the C. Craig. Craig has You know, your first answer though is very blunt and wrong given the context of the game. Was maybe more what I was looking for than the
second one, but that's fine. You know, I was thinking maybe you could say Christian Rock. But that's you know, it's not the there's no wrong answer. That's just sort of what in the mind for me. Okay, here's the next one. Next one. We can get him on the next one. Phrase that starts with A and ends with S. So there was a point there where you could have stopped and you would have started with it. What I said ass? Yeah, I mean yeah, and then you you sort of course crack. Sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay. You're really bisexual though. You're having trouble. I You could have said amen. He died for our sins. It's sort of what kind of mining. That's okay. That's okay. We got you're just you're you're answering with your heart. That's what we're trying to get you to do. Okay, so next one here. A word or phrase that starts with H and ends in E. Hope. I see some pictures of boys and girls that I can crank it to their asses. Okay. Okay, I kinda see where we're going here. I was thinking he is wise. That's sort of a cutting of mine for me. I mean, hope was beautiful and you know I was sort of ⁓ that was nice. And then Okay, that's fine. We gotta we gotta buy that I realized. ⁓ that's all right. You know, we're here to recognize our faults and to change them together. So I don't want you to get down on yourselves. ⁓ one would argue a very bisexual book. Yeah. And movie? I'm thinking perks of being a waltflower. What's the fault in our stars? That's Shailen Woodley. Yeah, terminal cancer. ⁓ yeah. Very bisexual to have terminal cancer. I didn't know what you meant, but I just said yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I and in conversion therapy, that's what I'm expecting. Yeah. You don't have to understand, in fact, you probably won't. But I do want you to say yes. I love that. Alright, we got two more. Okay. Starts with G, ends in Y. Gord. Yeah, Gordia. Gord yeah? You said it ends in a why. Why? Yeah. Gordia. Why not just gourdy? What do you it's not a word anyway? ⁓ okay, sorry. That's okay. I think I'm just really biased. Yeah, and also, you know, I'm really I I'm realizing I'm really jumping down your throat. I should just let you answer. ⁓ you look like you enjoyed that a little too much. No, no, no. I guess what I mean. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I was just thinking about Yeah. They both got ⁓ Yeah, you know boys and girls. They both got ⁓ that is for sure. That was good. You know, it gave me a sense of where we need to go. I think you did a great job with that. We're gonna do one more exercise here. It's called Finish This Sentence. Okay. So I'm gonna give you the first half of a sentence and you complete it. In any way that feels natural to you. Okay, the last time I prayed was never. Okay, honest. I can respect that very good. My relationship to sin is I'm doing, I'm doing it. Okay, straightforward and correct. With the Bible, I could stop being equally into men and women. Wow, you are doing a great job with this. That's exactly right. Okay. I know Satan is tempting me, Wan. I see his muscular buttons. Like an apple. And I wanna take a bite out of it and then and then it inside the bite, girl Satan. I know Satan has tempted me when I see his butt red like an apple, then I take a bite and inside of a girl's eight. And that's tempting too. ⁓ all right, that's your experience. And that does sound that does sound very temptatious. Yeah. Okay. I feel most holy when I whole. Okay, so I lost you when I said a word that had hole in it. Alright, we'll move to the last. That's okay. That's okay. Holes. Okay, yeah. Maybe a menorah. Sort of the throat of the crotch. My Zelda to that. I do know that one. Yeah. I have heard that one. Okay. If God were to describe me, he'd say. Biracial. Okay, I think we have our work cut out for us, that's for sure. But luckily, I have invited a friend and heterosexuality expert, Skid Beef, to join us after this short break. Thank you. Hey man, sorry I'm late. I was watching TikTok compilations of muscular dogs set to trap music. Nice to be here though, you know? Sorry, you're just really masculine. Yep. That's kinda my whole thing, is I'm really masculine. That's hard, you know, just 'cause like You're hard? Yeah. Okay. And that's what I want to change, obviously. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, that's the thing is when I I'm a masculinity coach, so I work with a lot of people who who are growing on this journey, you know. Growing. Gro ⁓ well, yeah. I mean, some of them, certainly. and ⁓ b ⁓ i though, you know, homosexuality in any degree is completely repulsive to me, I can understand why that's happening. We're gonna make sure that that doesn't happen. ⁓ and if it persists, I do have a hammer in my knife so I can do sort of carry that around and just sort of bang on it like whackemole. Yeah, you know, and and you were saying degree, I need degree. It's sort of like for me, I went to like a liberal arts college where I s got a degree in both men and women. You did a double major, so I've heard. Double major. All right. So we're working on your bisexuality today. I mean, ⁓ I think that ⁓ Toot already said this, but I'm Skip Beef, I'm a masculinity coach. And through connecting to your raw masculine, we're gonna get you right with Jesus, okay? That'd be great. So you're gonna walk out of here right with Jesus. I heard that you were ⁓ you know, sh ⁓ struggling with the idea of having to let go of, you know, Jason Moraz. Yeah. Myrna Fedora. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ Phoebe Bridgers ⁓ Marlon Brando. I mean the good thing Marlon Brando. Yeah, he was fucking guys on the low. I don't know about that. There's a girl father in it. Yeah. He was fucking James Dean. James Dean! He ride a ⁓ motorcycle, didn't he? Yeah. The other guy weren't sucking in fucking no no penis and balls, I don't think. They were fucking each other. Maybe like as friends. Yeah. That's disturbing to me. The thing is, I I do wanna say to you, you know, you're gonna miss out on a lot of pop culture you've been excited about these past,
you know, however many years, but I will say Can am I not gonna be able to see Hamnet? You're not allowed to see Hamnet now. Yeah, even though that's a straight relationship, ultimately the entire experience of sort of ⁓ the loss of a child and writing a play about it is very bisexual, very gay. ⁓ I will say there's a lot of good straight media, you know. you can enjoy ⁓ the musical stylings of Gwen Stefani. She's really into God and Jesus now. Really? Yeah. Eve you know sh she and ⁓ I heard you're interested in ⁓ being biracial. I know she's sort of dabbled in that quite a bit. So there's that. ⁓ existing in between worlds. Mm-hmm right, right. ⁓ yeah exactly. Yeah ⁓ and there are really good movies, you know, like Cars Two Is that the one where meter is a spy or is that Cars Three? Wow. So you already know. You already tapped into Strike Culture. ⁓ I'm a cars man. You're gonna have no problem getting him. Don't get me started on cars. Right. Well, sounds a little bit gay the way that you like cars so much, I'm gonna be honest with you. Liking cars? Well, the movie that much. The problem with masculinity is you can't ever like anything that much. ⁓ okay. You have to be sort of apathetic. ⁓ okay. And like you shouldn't even be liking like your wife, your kids. Okay. ⁓ you should like I mean ironically, you should like your car. Okay. But you should not like cars to that extent. Got it. Okay. But I will say, we're gonna work on that today. ⁓ I wanna talk about I'm gonna talk about the mate you want to attract, okay? Yeah. We're gonna work on that. So what are some of the the qualities of your idea? For me, it's like blonde, bush, busty, but twenty-one. Okay. You know? Definitely like an isosceles triangle. Right, right. ⁓ yeah, you were saying really weak, frail, frail light, big old, big old honkers. Mm-hmm. And I'm not an ass guy at Wow, so no ass. No ass, no legs, no feet, no tummy, no head. So you're my you're mostly looking for a set of breasts. I'm looking for a set of breasts. I'm looking for a set of set of breasts. Mm-hmm. So you want that's actually incredible to me because I'll tell you that that's a straight one right there. Yeah. We could definitely work for work with that. That kind of a shape. Yeah, sort of a upside down triangle. With another sort of triangle on top. Mm-hmm with another triangle on top. And what's the triangle on top? Her head. ⁓ her head. Okay, I understood. So she wants to a little tiny tiny head. Yeah. Big big Bazongoose. Also sort of broad shoulders. No. Those are the zongs. Those are the zongs. So in your diagram, those are the zongs. I'm hitting the zong. You're hitting the zong. Okay, so you're then shoulders are narrow, they're kind of narrow, like the head size. Big big zongs. Yeah. Zingin' zongin'. And then taper, taper down, taper down to two tiny little points of feet. Sort of like Bambi. Yeah. Which if Bambi had when she's a baby. And she's Your ideal woman is struggling to walk and stand. Yeah. And that's because she's so frail. That's an integral part of that for you. I mean I get it. Nobody wants to hang up with the boss. Hey man, you're all right. So you see where we do the left turn there? That happened to you a lot. Yeah. Okay. We're gonna work on getting away from the moaning. Yeah. ⁓ how about this? ⁓ this lady that you're talking about, this big zong's tiny thongs in brackets, like flip flops, because her feet are so small. What's got flip flops? Mm-hmm. What what kind of date would you wanna take this lady on? When you picture kinda like a nice ideal date to take this big zongin lady? Yeah, ⁓ I mean maybe we'd go see like The Merrily We roll along ⁓ pro shot with Jonathan Groff, Daniel Radclip, and Lindsay Mendez. I mean, they never actually got the production right. It flopped when it first came out, and it's like 40 years later they finally nailed it. Okay, so I can respect that you know a lot about the theater because there are straight men in theater. Aaron Tevate, I think. Maybe. Okay. Spider Man the Musical was cool, heard a bunch of people got their shit rocked putting that on. That was awesome. Yeah. I one thing for me is I think they should make a musical about like big cool guys with guns. Big cool guy with guns, the musical. Musical for men and boys. That's a good idea. And then the audience is all men and boys on stage there's just somebody firing live rounds into the audience. Yeah. And then everybody in the audience has to sort of react like they would in an active shooting scenario. Yeah, that's a great idea for a musical where the actor shoots real guns and then everybody flees. Mm-hmm. I think it could be a hit. Yeah. But this thing you're talking about, I'm not gonna lie, it sounds pretty gay. Merrily we roll along, you can't be bringing a lady in there. ⁓ my god. Because you're gonna be merrily you roll along straight to hell. That's so true. You gotta do something more masculine on the day. Not straight that way. Absolutely. I mean, unless you're bringing this girl to a musical where there's an active shooter sort of element, you should instead be bringing her to I don't know, like the War Museum. or to a movie where One of the f in the Fra Fast and Furious franchise, I think could be good. Yeah. That can be a little triggering for me though, because you know, big big strong rock, big strong Vin, big strong ⁓ Momoa, Pretty Girls 2. I'm sort of like, huh, ⁓ that's sort of kid. Yeah, your tongue's rolling out like a red carpet. Mm-hmm. ⁓ googly moogly. So I feel like I might have to avoid triggers like that. 'Cause it's like I know I'm gonna turn completely straight, but it's like I still feel like I maybe should avoid triggers. Kinda like how porn addicts, their wives have to make sure they their husbands didn't watch Florence Pugh and Cillian Murphy naked in Oppenheimer. Yeah. I haven't heard about this story specifically, but that's resonating. Yeah. Because I'll say if I'm in the movie theater and there's even
a shot of a woman that includes her breasts, like shirt on. Yeah. I'm talking about anything other than a super close up. Yeah. Boner Boner Rock hard. Right. Coming already. Really? Yeah. Immediately coming. Still? Yeah. But that's fine, 'cause it's only for women for me. I mean for you. Are you single? I'm married and I have like six girlfriends. ⁓ really? They let you do that? Yeah, of course. Yeah. 'Cause man, here's the thing about Catholicism. Yes, they run around drinking yes, they don't want to run around. And at the same time, men can do whatever they want. That sounds kinda cool. Exactly. Like this journey is a good one for you. You're gonna be gained in so much. You can do whatever you want. You can go out and, you know, do donuts in the parking lot with your boys. You know, and then you can go home and your wife's already cooked something for you, you eat it, you even have a look her in the eyes. That sounds awesome. Yeah, it's really cool. You can go you go in a cold plunge a bunch. Really? Yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓ my god, I love getting in cold water. Mm mm. So there's lots of stuff waiting for you on the other side, if I'm honest. Wow. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. I'm excited. Alright, so we're gonna do some role play then. Okay. This is to prepare you for walking down and mate. All right. So you're you. Okay. And I'm gonna play a twenty four year old named Amanda. Okay. Working at the returns counter at the supplement store. Okay. So you're making a return to the supplement store. You're gonna try and get me to sleep with you. Okay. Okay. Welcome to the supplement store. Hi, the hemorrhoid cream wasn't strong enough. I need stronger Okay, ⁓ we sell vitamins and sort of like protein powder here. So ⁓ I'm at the wrong store. Where did I buy this then? ⁓ wait, you're right next to the CBS. That's right, we are. I mean, don't I wouldn't be embarrassed though. I've been going over there for my medications too. Really? Mm-hmm. Thanks. Hey, what's your name? Amanda. I've been working here for three months. Really? I love working in the supplement store. I get to talk to so many handsome men. ⁓ my gosh. ⁓ my god, really? Mm-hmm. What kind of supplements would you recommend for me? Mm-hmm. I would probably say, you know Yeah, I mean from the shape of your glasses, I'm guessing you don't eat much meat. Yeah. So I'm gonna say probably like B12. Some B12 supplements. Vitamin D is also good if you're spending too much time in stuff. I still like you even if you were only B12 years old. You'd still like me if I only B 12 years old. Yeah, that's how cute you are. Amanda was it? Yeah, I am. A man. Duh! I still like you even if you're just twelve of a man. No a man died. My heroes. Ow! Why? ⁓ Okay, I'm gonna stop you there. Sorry. That's okay. I got really, and that's alright. I mean, the most important thing is you were taking it serious. Yeah. Which I can really tell. You want to go on this journey, you want to get bitter. Sorry, I got a little too into the role play. That's okay. I will say, you know, ⁓ in my humble opinion, as a ⁓ you know, straight Catholic man, you can like girls who look 12 and R twelve. Yes. Yes. That part was totally fine. Don't ever say that out loud at a store because they'll call cops on you and stuff like that. I was wondering how you guys do it. Yeah, so I just make sure I don't ever nobody even hears about it. Yeah, okay. ⁓ and then I sort of let it manifest into things like being very obsessed with my wife's body hair and like being like really into when she wears like a schoolgirl uniform. Yeah, yeah. And I go, Well, she's of age. Yeah. Well she's a very whenever I hear like a 17 year old or eighteen year old, I'm like, well it's legal. Yeah, so that's kinda hard. That's really helpful. Okay. Alright, ⁓ do you want to try that roleplay again? Yeah. Let's try it and we'll just try everything completely different. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. ⁓ welcome to the supplement store. Are there's the returns counters or something you weren't happy with? Yeah, the hemorrhoid cream wasn't strong enough. Weren't you in here yesterday? ⁓ wait a minute, am I in the wrong place to see? Yeah, the CVS is next door. I would never forget a handsome face like yours though. Thank you. Your Yeah. I gotta go. Sorry. What? No, I mean actually Hey, ⁓ You look like you were gonna walk out, but you're walking back. ⁓ you're wearing some clanky heels? Hey, I'd like to show you something that I think is gonna make you really attracted to me. Well, okay, I'll try anything once. What is it? Yeah. ⁓ you're actually pretty good. It's almost like ⁓ OWH! My Ana Prize! I doubted too hard and one burst Okay, so I'm gonna call that there. ⁓ I do really it's okay. Hey, it's okay. It's okay, it's okay. Honestly, you there are a lot of masculine men who tap dance like, you know, Gene Kelly. Yeah. You know, so that's fine. I mean, it's a little like gay a bit, but it's not actually that gay. So here's what I'm sensing from you. You want this bad. I want it really bad. You want this to work. I want it to work. You're trying your hardest. I'm trying my hardest. That's okay. Where where do you think you keep what what do you think is your stumbling block mainly here? I think to straightness. ⁓ I think that First of all, I really have bad hemorrhoids. Yeah, that would that might be an obstacle, ⁓ it appears. And second of all, it's like I just get scared, you know? It's like I think about chatting up this girl in such a straight way, and then I just again it's like, who am I if I'm not by it? And it's just that I feel like I'm falling. Free falling. Absolutely. And I'm free! Free fall! Okay. you know, I can respect that being bisexual means you're very musical guy. And it does seem like, you know, dancing and singing ⁓ is the way that you feel you'll get to a girl's heart. So how about this? How about we change up the scenario in the roleplay? How about we're at a we're at a coffee house. Okay. And you're you have just
played a song on the acoustic guitar. And there's a girl in the audience who you saw clapping for you. Okay. She's joining a tube, her name's Amanda. We got big zongs. ⁓ Okay. And and you have an opportunity to chat at the bar. Okay? Mm-hmm. Okay. ⁓ you were pretty good up there. ⁓ I didn't even notice you. ⁓ really? I was in the front row. I clapped really loud. Really? Whatever. It's like hundreds of girls here. Yeah, it's a pretty popular coffee house. There's gotta be four hundred women. It's like four hundred women here. Sorry, I didn't notice you. That's okay. I mean there. Yeah, you really were. You you look like you were like really letting go and just letting yourself be who you are. Yeah. What's your deal? ⁓ I just like to come and watch the coffee house. I don't think I'm brave and I'm very weak and frail. Yeah. And that makes me sort of Not brave enough to do like creative endeavors. ⁓ yeah, I totally get that. That makes sense. That's not like that for me. For me it's easy. You're like a six out of ten. Just in terms of loss. Wow, that's honestly really blunt. There's all these girls looking at me way harder than Okay. Yeah, there are like anywhere between one hundred and four hundred girls on the golden house. Looking at looking at you. Two hundred and forty girls or something else staring at me right now. I don't even know why I'm talking you. Well, I mean I kinda love this strength and bravery you have. It's like you wouldn't care if I lived or died. I don't c I don't give a hoot. Can I give you my number? Mm. Yeah, whatever, okay. Here it is. ⁓ maybe you could take me out sometime? Six six six The beginning of your phone number is six six six. Yeah, I know, it's so crazy. That's odd. Yeah, you know, I haven't you know, I don't really ⁓ believe in fate or anything like that, but I think maybe that I got six six six in my phone number as a way to start a conversation with you. No, maybe I don't know, whatever. Okay, ⁓ man. What was that last part? I'm getting texted by all all of my Tinder matches are texting me. ⁓ you've moved off app. You're very popular. Yeah. Six thousand we met messaging you right now. So you're handling about sixty one hundred to sixty four hundred sort of potential. Yeah, I don't even know why I would hang out with you. Well, I mean I don't say this to be crass, but I am pretty good. I'm gonna stop you right there. That was brilliant, right? That was really good. It turns out we just had to take you away from the CBS where you buy your emerald greens. Really good. That's all I have to do. Exactly that. That was incredible. Amazing. That was one of the You should. I mean, that was like I've never seen somebody ⁓ undergo that sort of transformation. There was no break. Every answer was good. You were talented. You were showing her you I was making her feel about herself because then she had to try and earn my approval. Yeah, and she did and they Wheel, you know, the one thing that women love is when men treat
⁓ really, really bad. Yeah, yeah. And so that is our job as men. Wow. You did an excellent job. You know, we're gonna move on to some value chance. Okay. Which are basically affirmations for men. Okay, yeah. Because affirmations are Yeah, affirmations are dumb and gay for girls, as I always say. And so we're gonna do value chance. But I feel like, you know, you're pretty aligned with this already. I'm excited to see. I feel like something's already ch something is changed within me. Okay. We still have some fixed stuff to work on. Fixed. Okay. So repeat after me. Okay. Repeat after me. Just kidding. Mm-hmm. That's alright. That's clever. That was just a joke. You're just having fun. That's all right. I do not want to have simulated sex with the men on my improv team during a show. I do not want to have simulated sex anymore with the men on my improv team during every show. Like Okay. I mean Chad more recently sometimes specific. And I imagine Artoon if he was in town. And definitely if Artoon was in town him too. Okay, so we're not gonna do that anymore. I'm done with that. I want to ragefully tailgate any woman who passes me. I want to ragefully tailgate any woman who passes me. Perfect. I do not want to dress as Jessica Rabbit for Halloween. I do not I want to dress as Jessica Rabbit for Halloween. Great job. I want I want to make flirting feel like a hostage situation. Okay. Yeah. I do not want to have I have a clean hair root team. Now I'm gonna cut my hair off. Okay. I feel like you're really Fuss cut. Bald. I'm bald now. I'm gonna be bald. I'm not bi anymore. I'm straight and bald. Bald. I'm gonna be bald and I'm gonna wear stinky t-shirt. No more stripes, no more shapes, stinky red t-shirt only. Big jeans, stinky t-shirt, Walmart sneakers, bald. I'm straight. Whoa. Whoa. That was really it's working. It's working really well. Yeah. Okay, I mean my last one was gonna say I wanna wear a shirt that says ten percent luck, twenty percent skill, fifty percent concentrated, power of will, five percent pleasure, fifty percent pain, a hundred percent reason to remember the name. But it's like you already know it. Yeah, wow. I was gonna ask if you had any of your own, any of your own value chance you wanted to say, but I feel like I I wanna be bald, stinky red t-shirt, big jeans. I mean we're gonna get. Great, yeah. ⁓ You know, I'm really excited for your journey. I'm gonna have a toot chicken with you in six months. Okay. We're gonna see how straight you can get. Okay. Honestly, I'm feeling very excited about this. I I'm sorry, I do have to go. I'm leading a talk for the young gentleman's red pill society on the benefits of gooning. So I gotta go. But in six months meet back here and two we'll assess your journey, all right? Hey, it was great working with you. Great working with you.
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speaker-1: Welcome back. It's been six long months and I'm proud to say I see a lot of improvement over here with you, James. Is it still James? No. What are you going by now? Jim. Wow, that is a big change, if I do say so myself. Well Jim Jim's sorta doing a eye lids half shut, eyes rolling back in the head, grunting. ⁓ Drooling a little bit for the viewer at home. Yeah. ⁓ well Jim, you are, you know, leagues and a day away from the chains that I met six months ago. Looks like things have changed. Why don't you tell me a bit about it? How's life as a straight man? ⁓ it's good. I'm now an anti-bi activist. Bye people do not exist. Never did. It's a lie made up by certain People in Hollywood. Mm-hmm. So you're taking a real left turn. Certain people in Hollywood. Mm-hmm. I'm getting a sense of who you might mean. Made up by sexuality. Mm-hmm. And it's bullshit and it's not real. Mm-hmm. Well, I'm glad that you found that conclusion yourself. I mean, listen, we we start our process believing any kind of sexuality is possible because that helps us, you know. Wow, the the work has really worked, I guess is what I'm understanding. Bisexuality. Burp was really loud. Farp was kind of gentle. It's just small one, huh? Yeah. Have you changed your diet since ⁓ what are you eating these days? Meat, berries, butter, avocado. Mm-hmm. Sort of a bear diet. Bear diet. That's it's called, it's the bear diet. Mm-hmm. And that's what I eat now. Butter, honey. Mm-hmm. To really connect it with nature. Mm-hmm. And berries. I mean you could tell since you came ⁓ back, you know, you're y y you're huge now. You're y your muscles are really big. And so you've been working at the gym a lot? Yeah. Working at the gym. Mm-hmm. ⁓ once One sec, I'm getting a call. Yeah, you can suck my dick later but I'm busy right now. Actually no, I don't want you to suck my dick because boys can do that. Only vaginal sex. Bye. Wow, okay, so you have a strict only vaginal sex rule now. That's very that's very useful. Absolutely. I mean some boys have nose. Mm-hmm. Unfortunately they do. Yeah, I think it's really sort of imagining something. And it can be wet and mal as some boys even with facial. Okay, so you said Okay, yeah, you've locked back in, you're back here. Okay, so have what have you been doing sort of career wise? I r I I imagine you've sort of switched into a more masculine field of work. I'm curious what kind of work you've been doing. I'm I've become an anti bi activist. ⁓ that's your job? Okay. I thought that that was a hobby. ⁓ Okay, so you're an anti bi activist by trade. So what does that mean? Cops, slurping pussy, and eating also Pussy? Okay. Well, that's good. So you your form your form of Lake AK forty seven. Wow, you know, those are the effects of ⁓ skid beef in there, I'd say. Skid's a real really big in his guns. Okay, so you as your career are having sex with women. Are you sort of going around to my hobby? Okay. Is having sex with women and your work is being antibiotics. That's right. You falling asleep? Sorry. ⁓ you're really finding your physical form. Sorry. Ever since I became straight, I fort of falling
asleep all the time and really unhappy and angry. ⁓ and but it's good. Honestly, ⁓ the main thing about being a man is being unhappy and being angry. That's right. And so yeah, I'm going around and actually even a lot of ⁓ gay con people are having me speak there too because they also hate and don't believe in bi people. ⁓ So you're sort of touching on both communities, straight people and ⁓ gay people who exclude bisexuals from their community. 'Cause I figure even if I have to, you know, be in anime territory a little bit in order to be at those things, like if I can, you know, get rid of one letter, it's you know, one letter. Closer to getting rid of them all. Absolutely, that's true, you know, and they they keep adding letters to supporting that we keep going in and taking them out. L G R P Q. Huh? I'm saying this constantly. I'm going, L G B T R Q, huh? ⁓ let's get Z in there now. Mm-hmm. Are you experiencing that when you go to your talks and you're seeing seeing many Zs in the audience? Yeah. Mm-hmm. What is Z sort of encompass for you on the sexual spectrum when you see them? For sure. Blue hairs are sort of a general Z. Yeah, general Z. Mm-hmm. Too many damn letters. Too many too many letters in that alphabet. But it sounds like you're doing a good job of trying to get one out. I mean, that's really important work that you're doing. Absolutely. I know I know you kinda took a phone call there, ⁓ where you were talking to somebody who was who you were maybe gonna have relations with later. Is that ⁓ a girlfriend, a wife? You have someone special in your life? No. ⁓ that's just one of the you know Obsessed with me and this is trying to, you know, get get with me. Mm-hmm. What kind of woman do you find normally chases after you like that? What do you find, you know, is the type of lady who's really looking to pursue you, Jim? S definitely in pain. yeah, sad. Okay. hurt. Uh-huh. Usually injured. Right, so sort of very weak woman who's also depressed, sort of. Yeah, usually after like an accident or something. God. Okay, so you're fine and where are you meeting most of these women? Where do you find you know, it's I know I understand that you're on the apps, but you know, are there any women that you're meeting in in person? You're going to the hospital to meet these ladies. Hospital. ⁓ I got a police scanner and so sometimes sometimes I'll get to the crime scene before. The ER and I'll sort of chat up the word. Right. So it's somebody who like, you know, had someone break into her house and there was a bit of a struggle and then you listen to the police again and you show up and you go, Hey, yeah. What do you do Friday night? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of someone who just got in car accident or sort of get there before the ER. And some people, you know, would call this predatory behavior, but what it actually is is sort of a hunter mentality. So it's seeing something that needs fixing and fixing it. You know, people say, ⁓ that's predatory. And I
say, that's a great movie. You love predatory. I love predator Alien vs. Predatory. Alien vs Predatory. Mm-hmm. Predatory Badlands. Predatory prey. Mm-hmm. ⁓ amen. So is that you must have been very confused when you saw that movie. Yeah, I was very confused. I mean, one of the things that I that I've been confused about even in our session here is it seems as if, you know, you've sort of Converted to Catholicism and Christianity. That seems to be a big part of your life, you know? What what has that journey been like giving up Judaism? Yeah, I mean got rid of Judaism, replaced it with Judy. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. You mean an ice lady named Judy? That's good. And you met her where? Also at the hospital? I met her at the at the broken legs clinic. Yeah, I'm missing at the broken legs clinic. She was really vulnerable. Yeah. So you sort of what you sort of spent time hanging around the broken legs clinic to see if there's any ladies who might have broken. ⁓ Weak ankles. Weak ankles. 'Cause that's important for you, I imagine, when you spread your seed to make sure that any sort of life could bring it into this world. If it's a girl, those ankles better be weak. Absolutely, yeah. ⁓ but yeah, I don't know, I'm done with the Jewish stuff. I don't really do I'm all about majora now. I'm all about the big one the bigger flip The big one. I'm all about the bigger flap. I would say I'm pretty consistently referring to Catholicism as the bigger flap. So I mean I was saying about the Levia Menorah. Menorah early yeah. This is the absolutely no, I'm in line with you and what I'm saying is you're right. Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask? ⁓ I I I've heard of it, yes. I'm playing that. playing Legend of Zelda Majora's mask with your tongue. I'm N sixty four. Mm-hmm. Nancy sixty four. She's six years old. Wow, she's sixty four, huh? Yeah, something with a sixty four years. I mean, I guess if you're mostly interested in women with brittle bones, you're gonna have to go above a certain age. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Wow, that's really beautiful and powerful. I mean, it sounds like you've been going on quite a journey with your straightness and I'm kinda curious You really have made so much so you really have made so many changes in six months. What do you think your biggest lesson has been in leaving homosexuality behind? I'd say my biggest lesson is that bi people aren't real. It's not real. If you're dating a woman, you're straight. If you're dating a man, you're gay, which is also bad. Being bi is fake. You can't be attracted to both. It's a fleeting little fancy that some people get. Mm-hmm. And it's dumb and wrong. Mm-hmm. And if you are a man dating a woman and you want you're not allowed to pride. If you're a woman dating man, you're not allowed pride. and what else did I have to say about bite? Well, I'm curious, you know, it sounds like you're speaking to a lot of people about ⁓ bisexuality and how fake it is. If you had a bite person in front of you right now who was saying, you know, sure, I'm a man and I'm dating a woman, but in my mind I I'm still attracted to man, what might you say to that person? What might you say to that man? You would shoot them in the hands. Okay. You're getting rid of that bee one way or another. Shotgun. Two guns. Two grenades. Mm-hmm. Knife. Mm-hmm. Cutting the throat. Big inhale. Okay, well, you know, I feel like that's a pretty firm position, isn't it? You're bad! And I'm not like you anymore. And what you were was bad. Bad so- And now I'm not like that anymore. Now I'm different because I have rage against you and I kill you. And that proves that I'm not like that. Okay, so it seems like you've you're I I have to be honest, seems like, you know, one of the main ⁓ emotions that you're feeling throughout this journey of of finding your straightness is, you know, anger and rage. It feels like that's a lot of what feels you. Yeah, I used to not feel any anger or rage, which I think was why I was such a prissy. But now I'm feel angry all the time, which is good because that's being a man, exactly. ⁓ you know, angry man and and when you don't have anger, then it's sort of like you're not really paying attention. Yeah. That's really beautiful if you find your anger. I think that's a really important thing. ⁓ I I'm curious, you know, one of the things I'll make sure to talk about on this show is, you know, we've gone through a very long, extensive six month journey together, but Some people don't have the ability to attend conversion therapy, which hundred percent success rate, by the way. Sorry. ⁓ well, we just got shot. how mu how much longer is this? You know what? We can wrap it up. We can wrap it up. We can wrap it up. No, no, no, it's fine. Someone else will get someone else will get shot. So one thing I do ask my guests is are there any social media handles that we should definitely avoid? That we should make sure that we're not going to look at lest there be sin, arrest upon our eyes. Yeah. One of my least favorite bisexuals runs this account, James underscore Jellin, J E L I N. You can ⁓ so stay away from that account on in Instagram and TikTok and don't venmo him. It's that's also what his venmo is. Okay. All right. Well, yeah, we've been on a beautiful journey here today and Jim, I'm I'm really pleased with the work that we've done. ⁓ is there any final sentiment you wanna leave or? Or viewers at home who might be experiencing a similar journey from bisexuality to straightness. Any sort of message you'd like them to hear? If there are any bi people out there. Grow up. Just pick. Pick! Grow up, baby. Loser. ⁓ I like both. ⁓ I love both. Huh? That's dumb. Pick. Jeez, what are you, six? I want all the candy in the candy shop! You can't have it. Just pick one, idiot. Grow up. You're fake. Thank you so much and God save us all.