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Sal is a member of 59 00:03:28.069 --> 00:03:31.500 the comedy trope known as the Tenderloins, who are the creators, 60 00:03:31.699 --> 00:03:36.099 executive producers, writers, and stars of the hit TV show 61 00:03:36.219 --> 00:03:41.300 Impractical Jokers, found on TruTV. They have over 100 episodes 62 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.710 and are currently in their fifth season. They also take 63 00:03:44.830 --> 00:03:47.830 their show on the road and they tour doing live 64 00:03:47.870 --> 00:03:52.750 shows worldwide. I love this conversation once again with Sal. 65 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.360 I came away being inspired by the fact that it's 66 00:03:57.580 --> 00:04:01.159 so evident that he absolutely loves what he does on 67 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:07.150 a with comedy he fully understands the history the people 68 00:04:07.189 --> 00:04:09.449 that have come before him the others that he respects 69 00:04:09.530 --> 00:04:12.830 and that that type

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of behavior and that attitude is 70 00:04:12.889 --> 00:04:15.889 inspiring to me a couple other things we got into 71 00:04:16.129 --> 00:04:18.689 idea generation how they come up with ideas for their 72 00:04:18.750 --> 00:04:21.889 sketches for the bits as well as their writing process 73 00:04:22.269 --> 00:04:24.089 what does it look like i wanted sal to take 74 00:04:24.129 --> 00:04:28.529 me inside The planning, the process, who's writing, who does 75 00:04:28.569 --> 00:04:30.389 the bulk of it. Do they have a bigger team? 76 00:04:30.649 --> 00:04:33.180 Everything that went there and Sal literally laid it all 77 00:04:33.259 --> 00:04:35.519 out for me. And then the growth of the show 78 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.540 over the course of five seasons, they had a much 79 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.689 leaner startup initially when they started this. program years ago 80 00:04:45.050 --> 00:04:47.610 to where they are today and how much it's grown 81 00:04:47.649 --> 00:04:51.009 and everyone that's currently involved. I was blown away by 82 00:04:51.050 --> 00:04:53.899 this part of our conversation. There's so much here in 83 00:04:53.939 --> 00:04:57.120 this episode. We went pretty long on this one. That's 84 00:04:57.180 --> 00:04:59.660 only because it was so good. I know you guys 85 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:12.480 are going to love it. It's Sal Volcano. Sal, so 86 00:05:12.540 --> 00:05:14.189 excited to have you here, man. I've been wanting to 87 00:05:14.230 --> 00:05:16.170 do this one for quite some time. So it's really 88 00:05:16.209 --> 00:05:18.129 cool for us to be able to reconnect. But I 89 00:05:18.170 --> 00:05:20.709 got a quick question to get us rolling. And that's 90 00:05:20.750 --> 00:05:24.850 around people who have sustained excellence and specifically in your 91 00:05:24.910 --> 00:05:29.040 line of work, comedians. And I'm curious from your point 92 00:05:29.069 --> 00:05:31.819 of view and just your opinion. You've spent time around 93 00:05:31.860 --> 00:05:35.139 other comedians. You're obviously a very successful one yourself and 94 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:38.230 you talk to others. What are some of the common 95 00:05:38.269 --> 00:05:44.430 characteristics you would find in world-class or extremely successful comedians? 96 00:05:45.990 --> 00:05:51.459 Well, first, I would say a world-class and extremely successful 97 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:57.160 comedian is– I don't necessarily identify– I mean I'm a comedian. 98 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:03.529 But when you say that, I feel like super famous 99 00:06:03.629 --> 00:06:05.569 comedians that have stood the test of time and all 100 00:06:05.610 --> 00:06:09.350 that stuff. I appreciate you asking me in that way. 101 00:06:09.470 --> 00:06:13.269 But I can identify with what I think it took 102 00:06:13.449 --> 00:06:14.680 for me to get to where I am. 103 00:06:14.699 --> 00:06:14.759 OK. 104 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:20.720 Probably like other comedians. I mean I

know that first 105 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:22.779 and foremost there's got to be a passion for it. 106 00:06:23.620 --> 00:06:27.889 Almost like you want to be a student of it. 107 00:06:28.310 --> 00:06:30.750 And since I'm a little kid and I really– I 108 00:06:30.790 --> 00:06:34.750 mean I can really recall like since I'm like probably 109 00:06:34.769 --> 00:06:39.300 like six– seven. I loved comedy. I love to make 110 00:06:39.339 --> 00:06:41.800 people laugh. I would put on shows for my families 111 00:06:41.939 --> 00:06:44.920 on the holidays. I would do characters, I would do bits, 112 00:06:45.339 --> 00:06:48.120 and I would love to listen to comedy. I just, 113 00:06:48.339 --> 00:06:51.259 it's just something that clicked with me right away. And, 114 00:06:51.699 --> 00:06:53.860 you know, as you get older, you start to understand 115 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.879 more of why you appreciate it. And I approach comedy 116 00:06:59.779 --> 00:07:03.000 in a way like almost like And that doesn't sound 117 00:07:03.019 --> 00:07:06.420 like fun, but it is to me. I'm completely obsessed 118 00:07:06.459 --> 00:07:11.410 with it. And I could listen or watch stand-up comedy. 119 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.720 I mean literally nonstop. You know how people are like, oh, 120 00:07:15.740 --> 00:07:18.019 if I'm on a deserted island, I could– and you 121 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.279 have to bring one food. It's pizza or whatever it is. 122 00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:23.620 Like I can listen without getting tired. I can listen 123 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:29.329 to stand-up comedy 24-7, 365, every single day. Good and bad, 124 00:07:29.449 --> 00:07:31.029 I can learn from both of it. And I always 125 00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:34.430 am fascinated with why something is funny and what can 126 00:07:34.449 --> 00:07:35.189 make it funnier. 127 00:07:35.209 --> 00:07:35.529 Yeah. 128 00:07:36.569 --> 00:07:39.069 That's another thing when you start performing and you start 129 00:07:39.110 --> 00:07:41.829 to grow as a comedian, you're learning how to edit 130 00:07:41.889 --> 00:07:45.350 your jokes down and whittle them down to the funniest moments, 131 00:07:45.389 --> 00:07:48.069 funniest parts and trim all the fat. And you start 132 00:07:48.110 --> 00:07:54.420 to understand why something works and how and you can 133 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.759 deconstruct it. And like some– not everyone's approach is the same. 134 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.800 Like that's mine. I mean I hope I'm also naturally funny. 135 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.319 Like there's things that you can't teach naturally. But you 136 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.439 can't teach someone to be naturally funny. You can't teach 137 00:08:05.459 --> 00:08:07.180 them to have a passion or an interest in that 138 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:10.139 respect for it. And, you know, if you commit to 139 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:13.019 something that you feel that way about for a long 140 00:08:13.060 -->

00:08:16.269 enough time, you know, things happen, things change, you know, 141 00:08:16.689 --> 00:08:21.089 your understanding and your ability changes. And if you're practicing 142 00:08:21.129 --> 00:08:23.649 it as well, you know, you're just getting better and 143 00:08:23.670 --> 00:08:24.870 better and creating opportunity. 144 00:08:24.910 --> 00:08:26.490 You have to immerse yourself in it. 145 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.319 And I think just like anything else, if you're going 146 00:08:29.339 --> 00:08:33.299 to be completely successful or that's your goal, to be 147 00:08:33.340 --> 00:08:36.480 completely successful in a certain area or field, you have 148 00:08:36.500 --> 00:08:38.919 to completely immerse yourself in it. You have to live 149 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:42.769 it and breathe it. And it's not a job. I 150 00:08:43.110 --> 00:08:44.250 mean a lot of these things are a little bit 151 00:08:44.259 --> 00:08:47.669 cliche but that's just because they're true. It's not a 152 00:08:47.710 --> 00:08:50.090 job to me at all. It's like what I want 153 00:08:50.129 --> 00:08:51.970 to do. Like I did it for like 20 years 154 00:08:52.009 --> 00:08:52.710 before I earned $ 1. 155 00:08:52.649 --> 00:08:56.769 Yeah. I would say that's really important. 156 00:08:56.789 --> 00:09:00.649 And then to just have discipline is another thing because 157 00:09:01.889 --> 00:09:07.600 there are probably tens of thousands of comedians and we 158 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.740 probably only know, the public probably. 159 00:09:11.500 --> 00:09:13.779 Only knows of a couple of hundred. You know what 160 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:14.000 I mean? 161 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:18.340 It's just like, And there's no difference necessarily between someone 162 00:09:18.379 --> 00:09:21.379 you do and don't know. There's probably amazing comedians out 163 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.429 there that you and I haven't heard of. And they're 164 00:09:24.470 --> 00:09:27.669 doing their thing and they're getting themselves right. And when 165 00:09:27.690 --> 00:09:31.870 their opportunity comes, we'll be introduced to them. But for me, 166 00:09:31.929 --> 00:09:36.559 also success in comedy, yes, it's defined as are you 167 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.080 making your living from it? That's how you define something 168 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:44.429 as a professional comedian. But For me, success in comedy 169 00:09:44.669 --> 00:09:45.990 is are you enjoying yourself? 170 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:48.649 Are you getting better? Are you making people laugh? You 171 00:09:48.669 --> 00:09:49.029 know what I mean? 172 00:09:49.509 --> 00:09:51.669 And if you're achieving those things, you're a comedian. I 173 00:09:51.690 --> 00:09:53.309 don't care if you're getting a check for it or not. 174 00:09:53.330 --> 00:09:56.029 I give credit to anyone who is getting up on 175 00:09:56.129 --> 00:09:59.629 stage all the time or writing and performing and achieving 176 00:09:59.649 --> 00:09:59.950 those things. 177 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.899 Like if you can achieve all of those things and 178 00:10:02.940 --> 00:10:05.639 not money I still think there's success there because if 179 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.179 the money went away for me and the the actual 180 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:11.519 monetary opportunities went away I'd still do it and still 181 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.279 be fulfilled from it because I'm not doing it for 182 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:18.399 the money um Just happened to be so very fortunate 183 00:10:18.419 --> 00:10:21.259 that after a long enough time, something clicked for me 184 00:10:21.330 --> 00:10:23.929 and I was able to seize an opportunity and basically 185 00:10:23.970 --> 00:10:26.090 just got lucky and now I can make a living 186 00:10:26.149 --> 00:10:29.009 off of it. But I always feel like if you 187 00:10:29.049 --> 00:10:31.889 don't use it, you lose it too. So like– and 188 00:10:31.950 --> 00:10:34.950 I mean being maybe– I don't know if you want 189 00:10:34.970 --> 00:10:37.769 to call it neurotic or obsessive or just disciplined. But 190 00:10:37.809 --> 00:10:41.629 like to know that there are just tons of men 191 00:10:41.669 --> 00:10:45.350 and women behind me that didn't get their opportunity yet– 192 00:10:45.590 --> 00:10:48.990 or would kill to have my opportunity, and they are hungry, 193 00:10:49.009 --> 00:10:54.370 I can't not, that fuels me. I can't not be hungry. 194 00:10:54.389 --> 00:10:59.549 And I can't not be, I can never lose what 195 00:10:59.590 --> 00:11:02.120 it was that helped me get to this point and 196 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.600 is still helping me succeed. And if you rest on 197 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.980 those things, there's someone waiting to take your place. And 198 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.600 I just think that– I don't normally say these things 199 00:11:11.659 --> 00:11:14.399 out loud. But if you– a little bit of retrospection, 200 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:17.340 you kind of– it just– I think that's common now 201 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.159 that I'm saying it. Probably in any single field, in 202 00:11:20.659 --> 00:11:24.029 any job or any hobby or– I mean not hobby 203 00:11:24.049 --> 00:11:26.649 but passion. And I guess that's what got us here. 204 00:11:26.690 --> 00:11:28.549 For us, it's a little bit even tougher because we 205 00:11:28.590 --> 00:11:32.090 were doing it by committee I think. And everyone has 206 00:11:32.110 --> 00:11:38.720 their own lives and your priorities change and your discipline wanes. 207 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:40.740 There's four people, so you can't always all be on 208 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.080 the same page at the same time. I do– we 209 00:11:43.139 --> 00:11:47.129 all do our own solo stuff too. But it's– for me, 210 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:50.750 I honestly– I give– I do give– I will say 211 00:11:50.789 --> 00:11:53.470 I will give us credit too because– you know, it's 212

00:11:53.549 --> 00:11:56.409 four minds coming together. A lot of times it's comedy 213 00:11:56.470 --> 00:11:58.509 by democracy or committee or. 214 00:11:58.509 --> 00:11:58.970 Whatever it is. 215 00:11:58.990 --> 00:12:02.279 There's a lot of, you have to sometimes fight for 216 00:12:02.299 --> 00:12:05.659 a joke or explain to someone why all of our 217 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.120 contributed efforts should go towards something. And then, you know, 218 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.500 you've got to, If I have a fight with Murr 219 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:17.539 or someone has an attitude because he's got things on 220 00:12:17.580 --> 00:12:20.840 his mind from his own home life or family, you're 221 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:24.679 not just dealing with yourself. So to take that road 222 00:12:24.730 --> 00:12:28.429 with these guys through all of that too was another challenge. 223 00:12:28.710 --> 00:12:30.509 And I think that we've done okay with it. We 224 00:12:30.549 --> 00:12:33.950 were always learning and trying. But yeah, I'm kind of 225 00:12:34.009 --> 00:12:34.509 rambling now. 226 00:12:34.529 --> 00:12:37.610 It's all good, man. I hope that kind of like– Well, 227 00:12:37.649 --> 00:12:40.549 I love it because it– You mentioned it a little 228 00:12:40.580 --> 00:12:43.419 bit ago, but it has so much applicability to a 229 00:12:44.460 --> 00:12:48.049 lot of other really impressive leaders that I've spoken to 230 00:12:48.070 --> 00:12:51.980 on this podcast over almost 100 of them now. And 231 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:55.559 the talk of being passionate about what you do. And you, 232 00:12:55.740 --> 00:12:58.960 I can tell, have a borderline or you maybe are 233 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.240 just obsessed with it. And you want to be great 234 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.399 at it. And I love that aspect of you. And 235 00:13:03.450 --> 00:13:05.450 it shows in the work that you put into it. 236 00:13:05.450 --> 00:13:08.289 Because a lot of people say, oh, there's these overnight successes. 237 00:13:08.350 --> 00:13:11.210 And usually an overnight success, it's been in the works 238 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.549 for 15, 20 years, like it is in your case. 239 00:13:13.970 --> 00:13:15.570 And I wanted to tell a quick story, Sal, about 240 00:13:15.610 --> 00:13:17.970 how we met in person. So, I don't know, it 241 00:13:17.990 --> 00:13:19.990 was about a year ago or maybe, yeah, around a 242 00:13:20.009 --> 00:13:24.909 year ago. And sometimes I am fortunate enough to need 243 00:13:24.929 --> 00:13:29.919 to play the sidekick role, wingman, to my brother, AJ, 244 00:13:29.980 --> 00:13:32.080 if he gets to go to these cool events. And 245 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.460 we happened to get invited, or he got invited to 246 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:39.470 this golf event in Las Vegas. Very fun event, really nice. 247 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.850 And the last day of this golf tournament, this charity 248 00:13:42.889 --> 00:13:48.100 golf tournament, the organizers of it say, hey, your group 249 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.970 is going to be Sal and Joe from Impractical Jokers 250 00:13:52.450 --> 00:13:58.909 and Norm MacDonald. And AJ's like, wow, what a group. 251 00:13:59.129 --> 00:14:02.379 And so we show up to the first tee, and 252 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:07.620 for some probably not that surprising– For people to hear, 253 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.679 Norm does not show up. So Norm's clubs are on 254 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.289 the cart. And I ended up taking his place and 255 00:14:13.330 --> 00:14:15.889 playing with you, Sal, and Joe, and AJ. And it 256 00:14:15.929 --> 00:14:19.049 was one of the most enjoyable, funniest rounds of golf 257 00:14:19.669 --> 00:14:22.090 of my life. And so throughout that time, you know, 258 00:14:22.230 --> 00:14:23.789 I had, you know, and I think I mentioned this 259 00:14:23.809 --> 00:14:25.789 to you when we were in person. I had not 260 00:14:25.909 --> 00:14:29.120 been a guy who watched every single episode. I had 261 00:14:29.259 --> 00:14:30.720 seen it. I had heard of it. But I didn't 262 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.139 know a ton about you guys. But it was so 263 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:35.320 cool to be able to see and meet you guys 264 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.279 and hear about, I could just tell, and AJ and 265 00:14:37.299 --> 00:14:38.980 I talked about this on the flight home, I remember, 266 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.730 just how grateful you guys were for the opportunity that 267 00:14:43.750 --> 00:14:46.389 you had, that you got to do what you love 268 00:14:46.809 --> 00:14:49.169 and get paid for it. And almost you have like this, 269 00:14:51.450 --> 00:14:54.299 you're truly humble in the fact that you say, you're 270 00:14:54.340 --> 00:14:57.259 surprised almost that people love it so much. And that 271 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.730 shows like what it really means to be humble. And like, 272 00:14:59.750 --> 00:15:02.870 you're so appreciative of the fact that people love what 273 00:15:02.929 --> 00:15:06.970 you guys do. And I love that fact when that 274 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:10.429 quality in somebody, when they've achieved levels of fame and success, 275 00:15:10.490 --> 00:15:14.669 because unfortunately it's rare at times to find that from 276 00:15:14.710 --> 00:15:17.129 people where they've achieved these big levels, but they still, 277 00:15:17.190 --> 00:15:19.549 when you meet them, they're so down to earth. so 278 00:15:19.649 --> 00:15:22.009 grateful for the fans. And I, I found that it 279 00:15:22.049 --> 00:15:24.409 was just striking in both of you guys throughout that 280 00:15:24.490 --> 00:15:27.129 whole round of golf that we were fortunate enough to 281 00:15:27.169 --> 00:15:27.669 play together. 282 00:15:29.070 --> 00:15:31.450 Thank you. Yeah. I mean, you, you, you know, I 283 00:15:31.690 --> 00:15:33.809 still feel that way. You know, we still feel that way.

284 00:15:33.830 --> 00:15:36.450 Uh, I always just say, I'm just happy to be here. 285 00:15:36.470 --> 00:15:40.330 I can't, I can't even believe the way people respond. 286 00:15:40.350 --> 00:15:44.340 You can never anticipate anything like that. And it has been, 287 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:47.620 I guess an experience that is, is even hard to 288 00:15:47.659 --> 00:15:51.710 describe in words for us, But the golf tournament– just go. 289 00:15:51.750 --> 00:15:54.269 I'll go back to that. Like we got invited to 290 00:15:54.309 --> 00:15:57.870 that and we like couldn't believe it. Like see, we 291 00:15:57.909 --> 00:16:00.190 work– it was like a charity golf event and they 292 00:16:00.269 --> 00:16:02.190 asked us to come and they said it was like 293 00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:04.850 a celebrity charity golf event. And what it was was 294 00:16:04.889 --> 00:16:08.210 like people would be paired up with athletes and celebrities 295 00:16:08.230 --> 00:16:10.669 and this and that to golf and stuff. And like 296 00:16:10.950 --> 00:16:14.009 they kind of were asking us to go and I 297 00:16:14.450 --> 00:16:17.470 guess be celebrities that people golfed with. 298 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.000 But we don't really golf. 299 00:16:19.820 --> 00:16:21.769 And I mean I have in my life maybe a 300 00:16:21.830 --> 00:16:25.049 dozen times in my life but not to be– not 301 00:16:25.330 --> 00:16:27.129 to feel comfortable going to this thing. 302 00:16:28.590 --> 00:16:30.649 So they said, oh, don't worry. Just come and hang out. 303 00:16:30.669 --> 00:16:31.549 You don't even have to golf. 304 00:16:31.990 --> 00:16:33.769 And then when we got there, they were like, oh, 305 00:16:33.789 --> 00:16:36.389 you guys are golfing with blah, blah, blah, blah. 306 00:16:36.470 --> 00:16:39.669 And we were like, what? And then– but they teamed 307 00:16:39.750 --> 00:16:43.179 us up with like– High Rollers, the first couple of days, right? 308 00:16:43.500 --> 00:16:46.750 Yeah, they teamed us up with athletes and celebrities. And 309 00:16:46.769 --> 00:16:51.990 we're like, holy crap, this is great. We're not the celebrities. 310 00:16:52.370 --> 00:16:54.789 Oh, the first couple of days? I don't remember that. Really? 311 00:16:55.309 --> 00:16:58.789 Yeah, we got teamed up with Marcus Allen. Oh, okay. 312 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:00.759 And then we were supposed to be teamed up, like 313 00:17:00.820 --> 00:17:03.740 I said, with Norm MacDonald and then your bro and stuff. 314 00:17:04.019 --> 00:17:06.660 And we were like, this is so amazing. Because they 315 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.839 just threw us on. So we got to feel like 316 00:17:08.900 --> 00:17:13.630 we were... Like we weren't the people that anyone cared about, 317 00:17:13.650 --> 00:17:15.970 which is great. Like we got to experience it the 318 00:17:16.009 --> 00:17:19.789 way that like, you know, I got to meet your 319 00:17:19.809 --> 00:17:22.029 brother and hang. 320 00:17:21.910 -->

00:17:24.039 Out with you guys. It was like just so, so much, 321 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:24.839 so much fun. 322 00:17:25.059 --> 00:17:25.460 Yeah. 323 00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.420 We couldn't believe we get invited to stuff like that. 324 00:17:27.460 --> 00:17:28.019 You know what I mean? 325 00:17:28.059 --> 00:17:28.220 Like. 326 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.900 The other opportunities that the show has afforded us have 327 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:35.500 been so cool. Like, you know, like you, like you mentioned, we, 328 00:17:35.579 --> 00:17:37.859 it was such a fun day. I still talk to 329 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:38.319 your brother. 330 00:17:38.339 --> 00:17:42.279 Um, like, like, you know, it was just really, really neat, man. 331 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:44.799 It was like, and you know, it's again in April 332 00:17:44.819 --> 00:17:47.480 where we're trying to get there again. Hope you guys 333 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:47.980 can make it. 334 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.420 Uh, yeah, we just talked about it. I saw the invite. 335 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:52.509 He's like, what do you think? I was like, I, 336 00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:56.029 you know, the scheduling might be a little tougher this year, 337 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:57.710 but it would be a fun thing to be able 338 00:17:57.730 --> 00:17:59.819 to go to and see you guys again. But I 339 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.039 want to get back now to, to your story, Sal, 340 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:04.819 and how you guys got going. So for the, I 341 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:06.559 haven't mentioned it yet. It's, it's, you know, 13, 14 342 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.480 minutes in to say for the people who maybe haven't 343 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:13.779 seen your show called impractical jokers on true TV, you know, 344 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.640 millions of people watch it. You guys have well over 345 00:18:16.660 --> 00:18:18.180 a hundred episodes now. How, where do you, what are 346 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:19.529 you guys at now? As far as the show? 347 00:18:20.140 --> 00:18:23.250 Yeah, well, the new season, which is season five, starts 348 00:18:23.369 --> 00:18:26.950 in about two weeks. It starts on February 11th. And 349 00:18:27.049 --> 00:18:31.430 I think right now we probably have somewhere around 106. 350 00:18:31.390 --> 00:18:34.559 Or 107 episodes in the can. Wow. 351 00:18:34.710 --> 00:18:37.380 And now this season we'll be doing, including specials, we'll 352 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:39.900 be doing at least another 30, I think, episodes. 353 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:40.140 Wow. 354 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.180 It's just incredible, the success and the longevity of it. 355 00:18:44.259 --> 00:18:46.829 And I know the 100 is a magic number for 356 00:18:46.849 --> 00:18:49.509 you guys, too, that could lead to other lucrative things. 357 00:18:49.569 --> 00:18:51.269 But I want to hear about, first of all, how 358 00:18:51.349 --> 00:18:54.329 you guys– like I said, for the ones who haven't, 359 00:18:54.349 --> 00:18:58.269 can you describe what the show is to you guys? 360 00:18:58.509 --> 00:19:00.619 If you were going to define what Impractical Jokers is, 361 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:01.759 how would you do that? 362 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:02.839 Okay. 363 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:03.500 So, yeah. 364 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.779 So I guess in the broadest sense of the word, 365 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:11.390 it's a hidden camera show. Mm-hmm. And the way– it's 366 00:19:11.450 --> 00:19:14.809 basically our take on a hidden camera show. It's me 367 00:19:14.869 --> 00:19:17.589 and three of my friends who I've– we met as 368 00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:20.670 freshmen in high school, which for us is 1990. So 369 00:19:20.690 --> 00:19:23.519 we've been friends 26 years now. Wow. 370 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.599 And we've been performing together like since high school and 371 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.019 then like official, official since right after college. So like 372 00:19:30.019 --> 00:19:32.900 16 years on the stage. And what we did was 373 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.609 we took a hidden camera show and we each compete 374 00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:38.190 against each other in awkward social situations. 375 00:19:38.210 --> 00:19:38.430 Wow. 376 00:19:38.869 --> 00:19:41.000 Tough situations. We try to like embarrass each other and 377 00:19:41.019 --> 00:19:43.660 throw each other under the bus and stuff in varying 378 00:19:43.700 --> 00:19:48.009 degrees of social situations. And we see who does the 379 00:19:48.069 --> 00:19:50.480 best and the worst and whoever does the worst, at 380 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:52.480 the end of the episode, they get punished. 381 00:19:52.900 --> 00:19:53.900 And that fate is. 382 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.450 Even worse than you can imagine. So for me, it's 383 00:19:57.470 --> 00:20:01.549 basically a comedy show about friends at its core. But 384 00:20:01.589 --> 00:20:04.210 I guess it's a hidden camera show. And I mean, 385 00:20:04.490 --> 00:20:08.660 we get lumped into reality and the prank word a 386 00:20:09.019 --> 00:20:13.519 But really like we're not really pranking per se people 387 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:16.039 in a traditional sense of a prank show. It's kind 388 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:18.460 of like really going out and competing with each other. 389 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:21.180 And like the public that are in the show that 390 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.029 don't know they're on the show, they're like there to react. 391 00:20:24.069 --> 00:20:27.670 And it's like collateral, like collateral embarrassment. So it's a 392 00:20:27.710 --> 00:20:30.430 little bit of a tweak or a twist on a 393 00:20:30.470 --> 00:20:31.789 traditional show like that. 394 00:20:32.470 --> 00:20:35.410 And I think really though the secret. 395 00:20:35.660 --> 00:20:38.670 Sauce to the show is our friendship because we're Like 396 00:20:38.710 --> 00:20:41.470 I said, we've known each

other 26 years. So from 397 00:20:41.509 --> 00:20:43.809 what I gather, and that was our intention, it really 398 00:20:43.849 --> 00:20:48.390 comes across like we know each other's entire lives and families. 399 00:20:48.470 --> 00:20:52.339 And you can't fake a knowledge of people like that. 400 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.740 So I think people identify with us because everybody has 401 00:20:56.779 --> 00:20:58.240 their tight-knit group of friends. 402 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:01.140 That they've been with since high school or college that 403 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:02.829 they really know well and they know how to push 404 00:21:02.869 --> 00:21:06.750 each other's buttons and they enjoy each other's company. And 405 00:21:06.769 --> 00:21:08.109 we also keep it relatable. 406 00:21:08.390 --> 00:21:10.410 So a lot of times we get compared to like 407 00:21:10.900 --> 00:21:14.640 Jackass because those guys are really friends too. But I 408 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.720 think that's where that similarity ends because I think those 409 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.920 guys are, in the best possible way, crazy. And they 410 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.460 do crazy stunts. But we try to keep our show 411 00:21:24.579 --> 00:21:28.920 more relatable and just make it about little moments with people. 412 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:31.609 And so what we wanted was for people to be 413 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:33.450 able to be like, oh, I did that with my friends, 414 00:21:33.509 --> 00:21:36.970 or let's try that, or we'll do this with our family. 415 00:21:37.009 --> 00:21:39.269 And that's what happened. We can't believe it, but that 416 00:21:39.329 --> 00:21:39.890 is what happened. 417 00:21:39.910 --> 00:21:41.970 So a lot of times the feedback we'll get is, 418 00:21:42.789 --> 00:21:45.829 We identify with you specifically or we identify with your 419 00:21:45.869 --> 00:21:49.099 friendship or we identify with the time that you ate 420 00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:49.819 off someone's plate. 421 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:52.819 You know what I mean? But yeah, I think that's 422 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:54.579 why it kind of struck a chord with people because 423 00:21:54.619 --> 00:21:56.480 it's kind of real and honest and stuff. 424 00:21:57.299 --> 00:22:01.029 How many groups of friends though do something to where 425 00:22:01.089 --> 00:22:04.470 there's a potential to get? A picture of Jaden Smith 426 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:05.380 tattooed on their leg. 427 00:22:07.579 --> 00:22:09.000 I hope a lot, but I don't know. 428 00:22:09.339 --> 00:22:12.380 So when we were in Vegas, I had not seen 429 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.920 that episode. And I know– but we were– I forget. 430 00:22:14.940 --> 00:22:16.660 We went up to one of those holes, and they're 431 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:20.150 all sponsored by some type of liquor or whatever. And 432 00:22:21.210 --> 00:22:23.130 one of the girls says, is that real? Did you 433 00:22:23.170 --> 00:22:26.069 really do that? And you're like, yeah. You pull up 434 00:22:26.089 --> 00:22:29.799 your pant leg, I remember, and show. And I'm like– wait, 435 00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:32.200 are you kidding me? And that led to a whole 436 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.359 other conversation. So talk to me about why you got 437 00:22:37.900 --> 00:22:40.720 Jaden Smith's face tattooed on your leg. 438 00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:50.400 Um, yeah, I didn't want it, you know, on the show, 439 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.059 like I said, we compete. And then if you lose you, um, so, 440 00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:55.029 so during the show. 441 00:22:55.089 --> 00:22:57.250 If there's something that like the guys want to make 442 00:22:57.289 --> 00:22:59.369 you do that, you don't feel comfortable enough doing, or 443 00:22:59.390 --> 00:23:01.069 you don't think you can pull off, you would say, 444 00:23:01.089 --> 00:23:04.170 I'm not doing that. And we find humor in that too, 445 00:23:04.250 --> 00:23:06.809 because it's funny when someone can't bring themselves to do something. 446 00:23:07.250 --> 00:23:09.250 The only bad part about that is if you do 447 00:23:09.289 --> 00:23:12.069 that enough times in the show, if you do it 448 00:23:12.109 --> 00:23:14.210 the most, you're the one getting punished. Now the rule 449 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.119 is that for the punishment, you don't know what the 450 00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:21.119 punishment is going to be and you cannot back out 451 00:23:21.140 --> 00:23:21.900 of it no matter what. 452 00:23:22.619 --> 00:23:24.799 So that gives us a little motivation during the show 453 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.910 to try and go as much as we can with it. 454 00:23:28.339 --> 00:23:32.740 But in this particular instance– There's four of us, Joe, 455 00:23:33.220 --> 00:23:37.519 James and Brian and myself. And in this episode, James, 456 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:39.720 who goes by Murr and Brian, who goes by Q, 457 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:43.759 Murr and Q and I all lost. Actually, we all 458 00:23:43.819 --> 00:23:46.710 said no the same amount of times. And Joe was 459 00:23:46.730 --> 00:23:47.430 the only winner. 460 00:23:47.930 --> 00:23:50.509 And he, he decided for this episode's punishment, he was 461 00:23:50.529 --> 00:23:52.849 going to take us to a tattoo parlor and he 462 00:23:52.890 --> 00:23:55.609 was going to get to pick what was tattooed on us. 463 00:23:55.890 --> 00:23:59.019 And we weren't allowed to look at the tattoo until 464 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:04.299 it was done. And, uh, Q loves cats. He has 465 00:24:04.380 --> 00:24:06.920 three of them. And so Joe gave him a tattoo 466 00:24:06.940 --> 00:24:08.680 of a cat and around it it said, I'm 38, 467 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.680 I live alone, and I have three cats. 468 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:12.740 He was like going to turn 39 in a couple 469 00:24:12.779 --> 00:24:14.880 months later. Yeah. 470 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.640 You know what's funny is like all

three of those 471 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.019 things will eventually be incorrect. 472 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:19.759 Right, right. 473 00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:23.809 But Q loves it because he loves cats. He kind 474 00:24:23.869 --> 00:24:26.890 of celebrates it a little even though it's kind of tacky. Murray, 475 00:24:28.190 --> 00:24:29.269 he looks like a ferret. 476 00:24:30.690 --> 00:24:33.329 He does look like a ferret. And in one of 477 00:24:33.349 --> 00:24:35.210 the episodes when he got punished, we threw him out 478 00:24:35.230 --> 00:24:37.369 of a plane and he cried the whole way. He 479 00:24:37.450 --> 00:24:40.750 screamed and cried the whole way down, which is terrifying, 480 00:24:40.789 --> 00:24:43.809 but it was funny. And so Joe, on him, put 481 00:24:43.910 --> 00:24:49.069 a ferret skydiving and crying, which I guess is bad 482 00:24:49.089 --> 00:24:51.769 for But at least it has something to do with Murray. 483 00:24:51.849 --> 00:24:54.650 He looks like a ferret. It's the exact same picture 484 00:24:54.690 --> 00:24:56.769 from the show, a freeze frame of him skydiving. So 485 00:24:56.809 --> 00:24:57.950 it is contextual. 486 00:24:58.019 --> 00:24:58.930 Yeah, there's a story there. 487 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:00.140 Yeah. 488 00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:01.779 Well, I guess there's a story for you too, but 489 00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:02.799 it's a little bit different. 490 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.920 Well, the story for me is absolutely nothing. I was 491 00:25:06.059 --> 00:25:08.900 in the chair the longest because mine had the most detail. 492 00:25:08.980 --> 00:25:10.220 And I was in that chair for three and a 493 00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:12.869 half hours. I have other tattoos. None of them hurt 494 00:25:12.940 --> 00:25:16.670 this bad. Once you pass a certain amount of time– 495 00:25:17.170 --> 00:25:19.990 the nerves in your body really start to tense up. 496 00:25:20.069 --> 00:25:22.799 It was very painful. I was sweating. My back was 497 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:23.470 tightened up. 498 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.140 Three and a half hours, the whole time I'm wondering 499 00:25:27.500 --> 00:25:29.299 what is going to be on my leg because I 500 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:34.140 watched the other guys finish. I had a lot of 501 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.289 ideas of what it could be, but none of them 502 00:25:36.380 --> 00:25:40.930 were what it was, which was a very real, accurate 503 00:25:41.430 --> 00:25:46.160 portrait of Will Smith's son, Jaden Smith. on my thigh 504 00:25:46.339 --> 00:25:48.960 about like, like the size of my frigging hand. 505 00:25:49.059 --> 00:25:49.279 Yeah. 506 00:25:50.460 --> 00:25:51.960 It has nothing to do with me at all. It 507 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.289 has absolutely no connection to me at all. Like I 508 00:25:56.329 --> 00:25:58.670 tell this joke on stage, but I had never even 509 00:25:58.769 --> 00:26:01.210 said the words Jaden Smith out of my mouth in 510 00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:03.670 39 years before I looked down, look back up and said, 511 00:26:03.730 --> 00:26:07.980 is that Jaden Smith? And I guess that was the 512 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.640 genius of it or the, you know, what was funny 513 00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:13.029 about it. Uh, other than the fact that I'm a 514 00:26:13.049 --> 00:26:17.569 39-year-old man with a 15-year-old boy tattooed on my leg. 515 00:26:18.470 --> 00:26:20.750 And, you know, some people think he went too far. 516 00:26:20.769 --> 00:26:21.369 I do. 517 00:26:21.609 --> 00:26:26.450 I'm one of them. But I understand, you know, we're also.... 518 00:26:27.490 --> 00:26:29.349 We also deal in comedy, and we're trying to make 519 00:26:29.390 --> 00:26:32.779 the funniest show possible, and we sacrifice for the show. 520 00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:35.279 And so when I, on camera, when it was revealed 521 00:26:35.339 --> 00:26:38.880 to me, I had, like, an overwhelming mix of emotions. 522 00:26:39.940 --> 00:26:40.660 One being. 523 00:26:41.710 --> 00:26:45.269 I was super angry because it was so– I thought 524 00:26:45.289 --> 00:26:47.549 it was so messed up because he– that's another– I 525 00:26:47.569 --> 00:26:49.109 guess that's one of the reasons why it was funny 526 00:26:49.150 --> 00:26:50.930 too is like he didn't go that hard on the 527 00:26:50.950 --> 00:26:51.609 other guys. 528 00:26:52.309 --> 00:26:53.859 And there was no reason for me to get the 529 00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:54.460 worst of it. 530 00:26:54.490 --> 00:26:55.380 We all lost. 531 00:26:55.950 --> 00:26:58.200 But so I was angry because of that and then 532 00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:00.160 I was also angry because for the rest of my life, 533 00:27:00.380 --> 00:27:03.440 I'll have this on me. But I was also like– 534 00:27:03.769 --> 00:27:05.950 I had to tip my cap because it was like 535 00:27:06.630 --> 00:27:08.170 so genius that he did that to me. 536 00:27:08.190 --> 00:27:10.849 You know what I mean? So, you know, I get it. 537 00:27:11.029 --> 00:27:11.410 I get it. 538 00:27:11.450 --> 00:27:13.109 Have you talked to Jaden or Will Smith? 539 00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:16.509 I actually, we do a whole bit on stage about this. 540 00:27:16.630 --> 00:27:21.079 I actually, two weeks after we got the tattoos, and 541 00:27:21.099 --> 00:27:23.900 I even tell people mine was not even fully healed yet. 542 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.900 I still have the scab over it. We were performing 543 00:27:27.019 --> 00:27:30.569 at the San Diego Comic Book Convention yesterday. And I 544 00:27:30.769 --> 00:27:34.660 ran into Jaden Smith by chance. Really? Just two weeks 545 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.920 after I got this thing. And I showed it to him. 546 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.470 And he freaked out. It was risky to show it 547 00:27:41.490 --> 00:27:41.730 to him. 548 00:27:41.789 --> 00:27:44.089 The reason was that the episode didn't air yet. And 549 00:27:44.150 --> 00:27:46.470 if he had

some type of adverse reaction to it 550 00:27:46.509 --> 00:27:48.509 being on my leg and was like, that's not funny, blah, blah, blah, 551 00:27:48.950 --> 00:27:51.809 he might have been like, if you put that on TV, 552 00:27:51.869 --> 00:27:52.809 I'll sue you or something. 553 00:27:52.829 --> 00:27:53.190 I don't know. 554 00:27:53.549 --> 00:27:56.450 I really don't know how it works. Maybe he couldn't 555 00:27:56.470 --> 00:27:59.190 because he's a public figure. I don't know. But we 556 00:27:59.230 --> 00:28:01.410 took a risk showing him because if he didn't like 557 00:28:01.509 --> 00:28:04.930 it and then for some reason True got scared and 558 00:28:04.970 --> 00:28:07.430 didn't air it, then I got a tattoo. 559 00:28:07.029 --> 00:28:08.460 Of Jaden Smith for no reason at all. 560 00:28:08.690 --> 00:28:09.339 Or even worse. 561 00:28:10.029 --> 00:28:12.670 But he was really cool about it, actually. He laughed 562 00:28:12.710 --> 00:28:14.730 and liked it and took pictures with it and stuff. 563 00:28:15.630 --> 00:28:16.490 Is he a fan of the show? 564 00:28:17.109 --> 00:28:20.279 He had no idea what the show was. Okay. Wow. 565 00:28:20.299 --> 00:28:23.359 So he just saw a middle-aged man come up to 566 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.339 him and just be like, I have a tattoo. 567 00:28:25.900 --> 00:28:28.279 I mean, there's more to the story. I tell it 568 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:32.599 on stage. But it was surreal. I have pictures of 569 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.940 him with his face up to it, giving the thumbs up. 570 00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:39.240 But you know like– so the dust settles from that, right? 571 00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:42.359 Like everything goes away. But then now like for instance, 572 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:44.420 I'm home in my house right now and I'm sitting 573 00:28:44.460 --> 00:28:45.000 here and I have a. 574 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:47.000 Jaden Smith tattoo. 575 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.799 Like this state– I forget every day and then like 576 00:28:49.819 --> 00:28:51.109 I go to get in the shower and I like 577 00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:51.740 see it in the mirror. 578 00:28:51.769 --> 00:28:55.049 I'm like, oh my god. You know what I mean? 579 00:28:55.269 --> 00:28:57.970 I have to like– my future wife doesn't know I 580 00:28:58.009 --> 00:28:58.990 have this. You know what I mean? 581 00:28:59.009 --> 00:29:01.150 Like I have to like– I also have to choose 582 00:29:01.190 --> 00:29:02.569 like there's going to be a time where I have 583 00:29:02.589 --> 00:29:03.470 to tell someone. 584 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:06.599 I hope you don't mind, but I have a tattoo 585 00:29:06.619 --> 00:29:08.240 of Will Smith's son on my body that's going to 586 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:08.859 be there for life. 587 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:14.440 I love it. I love the dedication to doing a 588 00:29:14.460 --> 00:29:16.359 great show and the fact that you guys will permanently 589 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.319 ink something

that one of your buddies is allowed to 590 00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.069 pick and to try to make it as embarrassing as 591 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:23.450 possible and it's there for life. 592 00:29:23.630 --> 00:29:26.569 People would say, do you still have it? Was it real? 593 00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:29.470 Are you getting it covered up now? And I tell them, no, 594 00:29:29.670 --> 00:29:32.289 I'm going to keep it. That was the deal. So 595 00:29:32.309 --> 00:29:35.130 I'm not getting it covered up. So it is what 596 00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:35.509 it is. 597 00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:38.380 You mentioned that you, you, you tell some of these, um, 598 00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:41.519 on stage. So in addition to doing the TV show, 599 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.480 you guys do comedy as I think both a group 600 00:29:44.619 --> 00:29:46.430 and on your own, correct? You go, you tour on the, 601 00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.359 I was looking at your tour dates and, and you 602 00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:51.309 go all over the world really from what I've seen, 603 00:29:51.380 --> 00:29:54.730 at least overseas to talk to me about the difference 604 00:29:54.829 --> 00:29:58.670 between what you do on stage versus what you guys 605 00:29:58.730 --> 00:29:59.630 do on TV. 606 00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:04.720 Yeah, I mean, there's some connective tissue, but for the 607 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.339 most part, the live performance is a totally different beast 608 00:30:07.420 --> 00:30:11.299 than taping the show. It's different prep work. It's different execution. 609 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.589 Like I mentioned, the guys and I, we met in 610 00:30:14.630 --> 00:30:16.930 high school, and we did improv together in high school. 611 00:30:17.069 --> 00:30:18.750 And then when we all got back from college, we 612 00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:22.089 formed an improv troupe called The Tenderloins. The Tenderloins is 613 00:30:22.109 --> 00:30:24.509 the name of the four of us basically outside of 614 00:30:24.549 --> 00:30:25.210 Impractical Jokers. 615 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.509 It's been our identity for 16. 616 00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.579 Years and people know us as the Jokers but our 617 00:30:30.619 --> 00:30:51.549 identity otherwise is the Tenderloins. we're not going to stop 618 00:30:51.569 --> 00:30:53.609 being comedians and we're not going to stop being the Tenderloins. 619 00:30:53.650 --> 00:30:56.490 So we do try and integrate that and we do 620 00:30:56.509 --> 00:30:59.230 a lot of work to brand ourselves in that way. 621 00:30:59.430 --> 00:31:02.329 So we can be an entity above the show. 622 00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:04.450 And one of those things that we do is we 623 00:31:04.490 --> 00:31:08.150 tour and we tour live and we do basically our 624 00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:11.190 version of stand-up comedy, I guess you'd call it. And 625 00:31:11.339 --> 00:31:13.299 that's what we were doing for 16 years before that. 626 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.539 We started off doing improv comedy, then we moved to 627 00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:18.880 sketch comedy, which I guess I can liken to– saturday 628 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.160 night live if people don't know what that is uh 629 00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:23.960 sketch so yeah so it's it's like our version of 630 00:31:24.059 --> 00:31:26.099 stand-up comedy the four of us are on stage at 631 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:31.670 the same time with mics and we tell stories and 632 00:31:31.789 --> 00:31:34.990 jokes and do stuff with the audience we show videos 633 00:31:35.089 --> 00:31:38.250 and it's like a mixed multimedia like. 634 00:31:38.190 --> 00:31:41.170 Experience and you know we we there's something in it 635 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:44.269 for everyone so basically the idea there is like the 636 00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:46.269 people who are fans of jokers come to see us 637 00:31:46.990 --> 00:31:48.380 um We. 638 00:31:48.259 --> 00:31:50.779 Give them– we know what they want to see and hear. 639 00:31:51.099 --> 00:31:54.119 We give them that and then we also give them 640 00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:56.980 the Tenderloin stuff. So they come in as Joker's fans 641 00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.869 and then they leave as fans of the Tenderloin. 642 00:31:59.890 --> 00:32:02.390 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it's fun. 643 00:32:02.410 --> 00:32:07.170 I mean the show is– we'll do like 60 to 644 00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:09.869 90 minutes basically and we tour that all over the 645 00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:13.119 country to every market that we can. And that's kind 646 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:14.839 of how comedy works. When that's kind of run its 647 00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:16.200 course and you've done it for about a year and 648 00:32:16.220 --> 00:32:19.559 a half or so, I mean, if you can, if 649 00:32:19.779 --> 00:32:21.640 you have the means, you'll record an album and you'll 650 00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:26.500 put that hour, hour and a half on an album, 651 00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:29.089 and then that'll live as that material. And then you 652 00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:31.450 write a new 60 to 90 minutes and you tour that. 653 00:32:32.029 --> 00:32:35.349 And we're at the point now, we're about 30. Three 654 00:32:35.410 --> 00:32:38.490 to four years into touring. We're coming to the end 655 00:32:38.529 --> 00:32:40.670 of our second show. We're going to be taping that 656 00:32:40.690 --> 00:32:44.539 in the next couple of months. Actually, this weekend, which 657 00:32:44.619 --> 00:32:47.680 is January. I don't know when this will go up, but... 658 00:32:48.210 --> 00:32:51.079 This weekend, coming out January 29th to the 31st, we're 659 00:32:51.099 --> 00:32:54.140 playing three nights at Radio City Music Hall in New 660 00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:57.160 York City. If people are listening that don't necessarily know 661 00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:00.880 what that is, it's one of the most storied and 662 00:33:01.349 --> 00:33:05.950 respected and oldest venues

in New York City. And it's 663 00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:09.529 basically where the Rockettes do the Christmas show and whatnot. 664 00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:15.430 And it's an absolute, absolute dream come true, like lottery 665 00:33:15.509 --> 00:33:18.430 type of situation where you get to play something like this. 666 00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:21.599 So it will be the biggest shows of our entire career. 667 00:33:21.940 --> 00:33:27.279 And so we're basically running out this second iteration of 668 00:33:27.339 --> 00:33:30.440 our live show. And starting, I think, in two weeks, 669 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.420 we start writing what will be next year's show. 670 00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:36.779 And so, yeah, so that's kind of how that works. 671 00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.380 So we work on the live stuff nearly as much 672 00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:41.089 as we work on the show. 673 00:33:41.509 --> 00:33:43.589 What is your process like? So I think a lot 674 00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:45.509 of people listening are probably fans of the TV show 675 00:33:45.549 --> 00:33:49.470 or they've seen that rather than seeing you in person. 676 00:33:50.509 --> 00:33:55.240 And I'm curious because– People, I think, ask the question 677 00:33:55.289 --> 00:33:57.089 a lot, like, how do they come up with this stuff? 678 00:33:57.140 --> 00:33:59.829 Or how do they think up of all these ideas 679 00:33:59.950 --> 00:34:02.329 that become so funny when you see them on the show? 680 00:34:02.690 --> 00:34:05.509 So I love digging into the process of how things 681 00:34:05.569 --> 00:34:08.130 get created. So do you guys, the four of you 682 00:34:08.150 --> 00:34:10.289 sit in a room together? Are there more people involved 683 00:34:10.349 --> 00:34:13.449 now that it's a bigger show and probably... I'm guessing 684 00:34:13.489 --> 00:34:16.030 when you started it was more of a leaner type 685 00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:18.429 of a startup and now it's probably grown a little 686 00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:21.880 bit in size as far as production and people involved. 687 00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:23.840 How does that work? I'd love to hear about that. 688 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.940 Yeah, what you said was spot on. As the show grew, 689 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.210 so did our staff and the people who help us 690 00:34:30.250 --> 00:34:34.969 make the show and people's responsibilities and everything. And where 691 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.889 we are now is completely different from when we started. 692 00:34:39.300 --> 00:34:41.480 you know, we, we didn't know the show got picked 693 00:34:41.539 --> 00:34:42.639 up for eight episodes. 694 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:46.500 And then after they, before they ever even aired, after 695 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.800 they were done watching the rough cut of the first 696 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.300 four episodes, they ordered another eight. 697 00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:51.989 So we knew they liked it. 698 00:34:52.550 --> 00:34:56.429 Um, in the beginning though, our entire staff was maybe 699 00:34:56.429 --> 00:35:00.949 15 people, which is, um, we've learned now is completely understaffed. 700 00:35:01.469 --> 00:35:04.409 But when we started, we were learning and we didn't 701 00:35:04.489 --> 00:35:04.880 know that. 702 00:35:05.110 --> 00:35:09.800 And, um, we had, um, like a director, um, And 703 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.599 we had like a couple of PAs and we had 704 00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.119 a couple of editors. 705 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.139 And just us. And literally that was it. And so 706 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.760 the four of us wrote the entire first season alone. 707 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.400 Like every single idea, joke, we would even like get 708 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.519 on the phone and try to get locations. We were 709 00:35:28.539 --> 00:35:31.840 doing like things that we didn't realize we weren't supposed 710 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.039 to do. Well, I mean, we're executive producers as well. 711 00:35:34.059 --> 00:35:35.619 So we oversee the show as a whole. 712 00:35:35.929 --> 00:35:38.239 So I would say like, For me, I would say 713 00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:40.510 really no matter what I have to do for the show, 714 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.809 I feel that's my responsibility. 715 00:35:43.849 --> 00:35:46.090 But if we're just drilling down, like, you know, we 716 00:35:46.130 --> 00:35:48.510 were definitely understaffed. But it was cool. I mean, it 717 00:35:48.550 --> 00:35:51.550 was like, you know, trial by fire. It went well, 718 00:35:51.590 --> 00:35:53.349 knock on wood. You know, we were learning. 719 00:35:54.650 --> 00:35:57.489 You know, like, it's weird because we get put in 720 00:35:57.530 --> 00:36:00.280 a situation where we've not only never been in before, 721 00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:06.440 but we're the writers, we're the producers, you know, within the. 722 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.820 Compartmentalize within within the show itself we're the bosses of 723 00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:15.719 it we have bosses you know at the network and 724 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.619 and you know we work you know in in line 725 00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:21.300 with the people that own the production company but it's 726 00:36:21.340 --> 00:36:23.539 just as far as like you know if we're drilling 727 00:36:23.579 --> 00:36:26.489 down like we control the show so we're just thrust 728 00:36:26.550 --> 00:36:28.849 into this thing and you know there's a lot of 729 00:36:28.889 --> 00:36:30.110 money at stake it costs. 730 00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:31.409 A lot of money to make a show like that 731 00:36:31.449 --> 00:36:34.840 and So we just were like, all right, let's just 732 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.320 do it the only way we know how. And we 733 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.239 didn't know if we were doing it right or not. 734 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.199 We didn't even have an office. 735 00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.639 We just would

sit on a couch in a room, 736 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.099 in this big room, and it was like the worst 737 00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:49.619 setup in the world. I literally didn't have a desk 738 00:36:50.070 --> 00:36:52.949 and I didn't have– I just had my laptop on 739 00:36:52.989 --> 00:36:55.269 my knees and we would just sit around in a 740 00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:56.869 circle and talk and write stuff. 741 00:36:57.010 --> 00:37:00.650 It was so crazy compared to what it is now. Yeah. 742 00:37:01.750 --> 00:37:04.949 The following year, we expanded by, you know, I don't 743 00:37:04.969 --> 00:37:06.510 even know, maybe 10 or so people. 744 00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:09.010 We added two writers to write in tandem with us. 745 00:37:09.570 --> 00:37:12.389 The following year, we added another two writers and even 746 00:37:12.449 --> 00:37:16.090 more people. And then by last year, we actually moved 747 00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:19.789 into all new offices. And everyone has their own office. 748 00:37:19.809 --> 00:37:22.920 There's a writer's room. Now there's editors have their own room. 749 00:37:22.940 --> 00:37:24.760 All the teams have their own room. We have our 750 00:37:24.860 --> 00:37:28.019 office and we have dedicated time and space. And now 751 00:37:28.059 --> 00:37:31.639 our writing staff is like five other people besides us. And, 752 00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:35.429 and now the overall staff is probably like, geez, if 753 00:37:35.469 --> 00:37:38.130 I'm just guessing, I want to say like 40 plus 754 00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:38.869 people or more. 755 00:37:38.889 --> 00:37:42.150 Um, and it's like, you. 756 00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:44.710 Know, Two or three people in the art department, two 757 00:37:44.750 --> 00:37:47.610 or three sound people, four or five locations people, a 758 00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:52.840 bunch of executive producers, line producers. I had to learn 759 00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:55.960 what these jobs were, what they're responsible for, who these 760 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.019 people are. We would start a new season and be like, oh, hey, 761 00:37:59.099 --> 00:38:00.980 who are you? And they'd be like, I'm so-and-so. I'm like, 762 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:02.030 what are you doing? 763 00:38:02.050 --> 00:38:02.429 I do this. 764 00:38:02.469 --> 00:38:03.309 I'm like, what does that mean? 765 00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:06.150 I was going to say, some of the things you're saying, 766 00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:07.110 I don't know what that means. 767 00:38:07.409 --> 00:38:09.670 Yeah. Now we're at a point where. 768 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.349 Every year you get to meet new people and the 769 00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:15.869 ones that really click and are really wonderful at their 770 00:38:15.889 --> 00:38:20.190 job and good people, they stay. Also, TV is a 771 00:38:20.230 --> 00:38:24.949 very cyclical business where people are jumping from job to 772 00:38:24.989 --> 00:38:26.659 job and they want to move up and they want 773 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:31.719 to move on. In the TV world, you don't necessarily 774 00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:34.059 always have the same core group. 775 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.550 And we felt that. Sometimes it's for the better. 776 00:38:36.590 --> 00:38:39.230 Sometimes it's a growing pain because you get– you really 777 00:38:39.309 --> 00:38:42.489 lose a good person. But I think now heading into 778 00:38:42.530 --> 00:38:46.489 season five, we've called every year– we've called just the 779 00:38:46.550 --> 00:38:50.150 best of the best at their job. And we have 780 00:38:50.210 --> 00:38:55.030 such a tight-knit, good group. that everyone like loves. 781 00:38:54.829 --> 00:38:58.500 Each other loves the show loves what they do respects each. 782 00:38:58.389 --> 00:39:02.300 Other everyone helps each other it is such an insanely 783 00:39:02.980 --> 00:39:05.719 satisfying and wonderful experience to go to work which i 784 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.960 know is a blessing that in the beginning it was 785 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.519 like also we were new and so like We didn't 786 00:39:10.539 --> 00:39:13.559 have as much creative freedoms because the network is taking 787 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:15.610 a chance on us and they're putting money on us. 788 00:39:15.619 --> 00:39:18.019 So they want to make sure they mold the show 789 00:39:18.139 --> 00:39:20.510 in a way that they can help chart its course. 790 00:39:20.929 --> 00:39:24.190 But, of course, in success comes a little more freedom. 791 00:39:24.710 --> 00:39:27.570 And so now, you know, like we mentioned, 100 episodes 792 00:39:27.650 --> 00:39:29.889 in and heading into season five, we're more of a well. 793 00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:34.260 machine we have you know we've turned over all. 794 00:39:34.179 --> 00:39:36.280 The stones so to speak so we kind of know 795 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.159 how this thing works and we're kind of piloting we're 796 00:39:39.179 --> 00:39:41.460 a little bit more autonomous in the fact that we 797 00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:43.829 They know that we know how to make the show 798 00:39:43.849 --> 00:39:44.659 and they let us do it. 799 00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:47.469 And that comes through creatively. It comes through in the 800 00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:51.510 way our job functions are. So right now, in the beginning, 801 00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:54.659 it was very exciting and very stripped down. Now it's 802 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.679 much more elaborate. There's a way bigger production behind it. 803 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:02.059 But I wouldn't have it any other way. It takes 804 00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:04.579 so many people to make our show. That's another thing that... 805 00:40:05.420 --> 00:40:08.139 People may not realize. You watch the show and it's 806 00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:12.300 very– the show itself by nature is stripped down. There's 807 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.550 all these hidden cameras and us and we're on the 808

00:40:15.590 --> 00:40:18.130 sidewalk or we're just walking around, whatever it is. And 809 00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:20.730 it doesn't necessarily– if you don't have a knowledge of 810 00:40:20.750 --> 00:40:23.829 how TV works, you would think the show is much 811 00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:25.309 more simple than it is to make. 812 00:40:25.750 --> 00:40:29.739 But we have so many people working at any given moment. And, 813 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.099 you know, the way that an episode works is we 814 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:34.670 have to think of an idea. And, you know, usually 815 00:40:34.730 --> 00:40:36.889 now our writing team will go to work. 816 00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:38.849 They'll lock themselves in a room and we'll pop in 817 00:40:38.909 --> 00:40:41.469 every couple of days or whatever it is. And we'll 818 00:40:41.630 --> 00:40:43.269 mix it up with them and try to put them 819 00:40:43.309 --> 00:40:45.230 on the right course. And then they'll pitch us ideas 820 00:40:45.269 --> 00:40:47.090 and we'll work with them on ideas. And if we 821 00:40:47.150 --> 00:40:51.000 like it, then we tell True about it. And then 822 00:40:51.139 --> 00:40:54.059 True has to like it. Or if they don't, we 823 00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.840 have to convince them to like it. And then after that, 824 00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.889 they say it's okay to go. And then we have 825 00:40:59.909 --> 00:41:01.710 to find the right location for it and the right 826 00:41:01.789 --> 00:41:04.250 space for it and the right people for it. And 827 00:41:04.269 --> 00:41:05.769 then we have a team of people go and do that. 828 00:41:06.170 --> 00:41:08.090 And then when they find the right location, we send 829 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.059 a bunch of people to that location. They have to 830 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.940 check it out technically and see if we can film there. 831 00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:16.199 Is there enough foot traffic? Is there places to hide everything? 832 00:41:16.539 --> 00:41:19.219 And then when they see that that's okay, they. 833 00:41:19.099 --> 00:41:21.280 Sign off on it. We actually put it in the books. 834 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.880 Once it's put in the books– We all write jokes 835 00:41:23.940 --> 00:41:26.179 for it and get ideas for it and start trading 836 00:41:26.300 --> 00:41:28.349 secrets on what we'll do to the guys. And that's 837 00:41:28.369 --> 00:41:31.230 just for that one thing. And then that day, our 838 00:41:31.309 --> 00:41:33.690 crew gets there maybe four or five hours before us. 839 00:41:34.210 --> 00:41:37.050 They literally like sometimes open up walls and put in 840 00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:40.369 cameras and set everything up and hide everything. And then 841 00:41:40.409 --> 00:41:42.780 we get there and we do a run through of 842 00:41:42.820 --> 00:41:44.880 the space to see what it's like. And then we 843 00:41:44.940 --> 00:41:48.139 film for four or five, six hours. And then we 844 00:41:48.179 -->

00:41:50.940 leave and they take the same amount of time, two, three, 845 00:41:50.980 --> 00:41:52.280 four hours to break everything down. 846 00:41:53.219 --> 00:41:57.280 And then that gets sent to our editors who do 847 00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.400 a cut of it. And then they send it to us. 848 00:41:59.460 --> 00:42:01.380 And then we watch the whole thing and give notes 849 00:42:01.900 --> 00:42:03.800 on how we want to change and on the beats 850 00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:04.780 and how we want to look. 851 00:42:05.179 --> 00:42:06.599 And we send it back to them and they do 852 00:42:06.619 --> 00:42:08.139 it again. They send it back to us again. And 853 00:42:08.179 --> 00:42:10.500 we do like three or four passes of that. And 854 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:12.420 then we send it to True. And then they give 855 00:42:12.500 --> 00:42:15.579 their notes. And then that one bit is done. That's 856 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:18.440 one bit. And we have to do that for every 857 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.820 single bit. So an episode is probably about four bits. 858 00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:24.699 And a season is probably about 30 episodes. So we 859 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:29.400 do that process for 120 bits basically in like nine months. 860 00:42:30.500 --> 00:42:33.699 And yeah, and that's kind of like how the show 861 00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.000 gets pieced together. It's a lot of people working and 862 00:42:36.019 --> 00:42:36.800 doing a lot of stuff. 863 00:42:37.699 --> 00:42:41.340 That– what you just laid out just blows me away. 864 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.380 It really does. 865 00:42:42.420 --> 00:42:46.679 And I was thinking though as things get more popular 866 00:42:46.739 --> 00:42:50.940 and the show expands and more people get involved– Do 867 00:42:50.980 --> 00:42:54.500 you ever worry about the potential for it to lose 868 00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:57.400 what it potentially is at its core and its essence 869 00:42:57.420 --> 00:43:00.139 when there was 15 people and you and your buddies 870 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.199 are basically doing everything and now everyone kind of has 871 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.840 boundaries in doing their own thing. You're in your own offices. 872 00:43:07.219 --> 00:43:09.710 You've got a writer's room. You have professional writers that 873 00:43:09.989 --> 00:43:12.190 throw ideas. Do you ever have that concern that it 874 00:43:12.230 --> 00:43:13.150 could lose some of that? 875 00:43:13.909 --> 00:43:16.409 Well, the concern is a valid one, but I don't 876 00:43:16.449 --> 00:43:20.610 have it because– It's the way that we chose to 877 00:43:21.269 --> 00:43:23.590 basically set up. I mean, yeah, we have our own offices, 878 00:43:23.630 --> 00:43:29.230 but that's kind of misleading. Because everyone, we're very collaborative. 879 00:43:29.809 --> 00:43:37.809 And even though the staff has grown, we set. 880 00:43:37.650 --> 00:43:40.409 A tone in a way that we are a very 881 00:43:40.570

--> 00:43:45.989 tight-knit group. concentrating on the same goals and you know 882 00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:48.840 everybody collaborates with everyone else like people need to help 883 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.480 each other so like location might get a lead on 884 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:53.579 a place and run into the guys in the writer 885 00:43:53.619 --> 00:43:54.940 and be like oh my god i got this place 886 00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:56.659 can you guys do something with that and then like 887 00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.010 so everyone's kind of working together and. 888 00:43:59.070 --> 00:44:03.030 At its core also every last decision for the most 889 00:44:03.070 --> 00:44:04.510 part has to pass through the four. 890 00:44:04.349 --> 00:44:08.059 Of us So everything gets streamlined down and it passes 891 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.440 through our filter and we're still controlling almost every single 892 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.460 aspect of the show. 893 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.679 Like from do you like this costume to do you 894 00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:20.510 like this location? Do you like this joke? And so 895 00:44:21.710 --> 00:44:23.809 the fact that we still get the say over every 896 00:44:23.829 --> 00:44:26.780 little thing on top of the fact that everyone is 897 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.300 like just works together and we we know the goal, 898 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.119 everyone is focused on the same goal. It still keeps 899 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.469 it very much like a tight knit process. 900 00:44:36.530 --> 00:44:42.230 I gotcha. Do you have a specific process for idea generation? 901 00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:44.860 I think this can apply to potentially any field of work, 902 00:44:44.900 --> 00:44:47.159 and that's why I asked that question. I mean, what 903 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.699 does it look like? Are you on your own? Are 904 00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:53.239 you with others? What time of day is it? What 905 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.019 type of computer do you use? All those things, I think, are, 906 00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:58.800 for me at least, are interesting to know what you, Sal, 907 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.590 are thinking about and how, as far as processing ideas 908 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:03.809 and thinking of new things. 909 00:45:04.550 --> 00:45:05.510 Yeah. So. 910 00:45:06.550 --> 00:45:10.110 As for this, and I guess any really show where 911 00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.940 you're writing, you'll see shows like if you watch any 912 00:45:12.980 --> 00:45:15.980 television show, take Seinfeld for example. If you went back 913 00:45:16.019 --> 00:45:19.539 and watched it now, you see the show kind of 914 00:45:19.579 --> 00:45:21.469 get more cohesive as it goes along. 915 00:45:21.610 --> 00:45:23.349 And you see it hit its stride and kind of 916 00:45:23.449 --> 00:45:24.789 peak and maybe even fall off. 917 00:45:25.289 --> 00:45:27.630 If you watch the first few episodes of Seinfeld and 918 00:45:27.650 --> 00:45:30.269 then you watch a few episodes in season four. And 919 00:45:30.289 --> 00:45:32.010 then you watch a few episodes in the last season. 920 00:45:32.110 --> 00:45:34.929 You'll see differences there. And that is all indicative of 921 00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:38.469 what's going on behind the scenes. Like you begin to 922 00:45:38.530 --> 00:45:40.420 learn the show and learn what works and then you 923 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.679 get really good at that. And then you get to 924 00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.039 a point where you're like banging on all cylinders and 925 00:45:46.059 --> 00:45:49.559 the creativity is just kind of like seamless and really flowing. 926 00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:53.829 And then you hit a point where. You've exhausted the 927 00:45:53.909 --> 00:45:56.090 initial thousand ideas. 928 00:45:56.349 --> 00:45:58.230 And now it's time to dig and push and try 929 00:45:58.250 --> 00:46:00.650 to uncover new ideas. And I think that's true with 930 00:46:00.710 --> 00:46:03.829 any show as it runs its course. And the same 931 00:46:03.869 --> 00:46:07.150 with us. In the beginning, it was like, all right. 932 00:46:07.170 --> 00:46:10.710 The show was originally called Mission Uncomfortable. And it got 933 00:46:10.730 --> 00:46:14.440 changed to Impractical Jokers. But that... that name kind of 934 00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:17.099 can give you insight as to what like the goal was. 935 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.480 He wants to put ourselves in uncomfortable, social, relatable situations 936 00:46:20.539 --> 00:46:23.880 and see how we fared. And in our succeeding or 937 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.440 failing at it, we wanted it to be funny. So 938 00:46:26.460 --> 00:46:28.219 there's basically like two. 939 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:32.119 Rules, you know, like, well, really there's one major, major 940 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:33.599 rule is, is it funny? 941 00:46:33.820 --> 00:46:34.519 Is it funny to me? 942 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:39.329 And then beyond that, does it fit the tone of 943 00:46:39.369 --> 00:46:41.559 the show? And so you can imagine when. 944 00:46:41.489 --> 00:46:43.860 We sat down, you could think of a billion things. 945 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.059 Oh my God, say this to that person, do this 946 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:49.099 to that person, you know, walk away with someone's shopping cart, 947 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.900 fall asleep on this person, read over their shoulder. Like 948 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.820 all of them, they just come fast and furious. And, 949 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:56.639 you know, and then it's like, all right, how do 950 00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.119 we mold that into a game or how can we compete? 951 00:46:59.179 --> 00:47:00.940 And like, you know, you kind of crack these codes 952 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:04.000 on what will be the actual, cause we're really creating 953 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.179 all these little mini games against each other. Then you

954 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.699 bring on writers and, Some of them know the show, 955 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:11.699 some of them don't at first, and you have to 956 00:47:11.820 --> 00:47:14.150 teach them the tone and make sure they get it, 957 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.980 you know, and then blah, blah, blah. And I will 958 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.550 say this, another thing that just to go back to 959 00:47:19.570 --> 00:47:23.010 what you asked me before is now that it's getting bigger, 960 00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:24.349 do I worry. 961 00:47:24.570 --> 00:47:26.969 The show is losing its essence of what it was, 962 00:47:27.010 --> 00:47:29.929 which was a small little thing. A lot of people 963 00:47:30.469 --> 00:47:31.590 know this, but a lot don't. 964 00:47:32.469 --> 00:47:35.260 Many people on our staff, on our show are our 965 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:39.179 other friends, right? like we have a lot of you 966 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.599 said professional writers we have a lot of writers. 967 00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.199 That have never written before they're just our friends. 968 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:48.510 We have professional writers too but we like a lot 969 00:47:48.530 --> 00:47:50.329 of people like it's a dream job these are four 970 00:47:50.369 --> 00:47:54.530 best friends what they don't know is there's actually like 971 00:47:54.590 --> 00:47:57.940 another ten or more people on our staff everyone from 972 00:47:58.829 --> 00:48:00.750 a couple of our cameramen to three or four of 973 00:48:00.809 --> 00:48:05.059 our writers to our locations, people that are my friends 974 00:48:05.139 --> 00:48:08.800 from home that I knew are just funny and great 975 00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:09.840 and could do a good job. 976 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:10.980 And they've succeeded. 977 00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:14.099 And so like behind the scenes, I I'm working with 978 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:17.000 people I've known for 10 to 20 years that weren't 979 00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:19.690 even comedians or, you know what I mean? So it's 980 00:48:19.769 --> 00:48:25.039 pretty amazing that that also helps because they, it, there's 981 00:48:25.139 --> 00:48:27.360 two different skill sets, you know, like someone could be 982 00:48:27.699 --> 00:48:32.309 an amazingly natural, funny, professional writer, but then he works 983 00:48:32.469 --> 00:48:36.349 in tandem with the guy that's known me for 15 years. 984 00:48:36.570 --> 00:48:38.860 And the result of the two of them working together 985 00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:41.699 is something that neither of them could achieve on their own. Um, 986 00:48:42.710 --> 00:48:47.250 And that's what happens now. Basically, we lock ourselves in 987 00:48:47.289 --> 00:48:47.590 a room. 988 00:48:48.769 --> 00:48:53.650 Really, for writing, it's actually anything goes. So for me 989 00:48:53.690 --> 00:48:56.260 and the guys, if an idea strikes you, same as 990 00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:01.460 a comedian, you're constantly just observing. You're observing and you're 991 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.500 trying to see how you can make your observations funny. 992 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:06.460 That's really all it is. 993 00:49:06.539 --> 00:49:09.059 And for the show, if something happens to me in 994 00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:10.860 the moment, I'm like, oh my god, that should be 995 00:49:10.889 --> 00:49:13.449 on the show. If something clicks while I'm riding the subway, 996 00:49:13.489 --> 00:49:15.190 I'm like, that should be on the show. Or even 997 00:49:15.230 --> 00:49:17.670 if it's just a premise or the seed of an idea, 998 00:49:17.710 --> 00:49:19.409 I'll walk into the writer's room or I'll text the 999 00:49:19.429 --> 00:49:21.719 guys and say, what do you guys think about this? 1000 00:49:21.739 --> 00:49:24.780 Talk it out. You know what I mean? And then 1001 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.960 the other thing– so basically inspiration strikes at any given moment. 1002 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.570 A lot of my inspiration strikes– when I am laying 1003 00:49:32.610 --> 00:49:35.090 down to sleep, like all night long, I write, like 1004 00:49:35.230 --> 00:49:37.230 I wake up and write ideas down as I'm sleeping. 1005 00:49:37.289 --> 00:49:40.190 But in a more formal way, our writers before the 1006 00:49:40.210 --> 00:49:43.409 season even starts for about six weeks, they lock themselves 1007 00:49:43.449 --> 00:49:46.269 in that room. And they come up with, you know, 1008 00:49:46.389 --> 00:49:47.369 a few hundred ideas. 1009 00:49:47.750 --> 00:49:47.989 Yeah. 1010 00:49:48.690 --> 00:49:51.809 Now that you guys are, you know, each, and I mean, 1011 00:49:51.849 --> 00:49:54.869 I guess almost every day, you become more and more 1012 00:49:55.309 --> 00:50:00.159 well known, famous, recognizable. You, you know, based on the 1013 00:50:00.789 --> 00:50:05.230 your show, it's helpful or almost mandatory, I would say, 1014 00:50:05.309 --> 00:50:08.389 for people not to recognize you. So as you get 1015 00:50:08.469 --> 00:50:12.110 more and more recognized, how has that affected you guys filming, 1016 00:50:12.690 --> 00:50:16.010 whether you're in New York or anywhere really, by trying 1017 00:50:16.030 --> 00:50:18.070 to do a show with hidden cameras and you're trying 1018 00:50:18.090 --> 00:50:21.199 to be just regular guys, but people are going to 1019 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:22.800 recognize the show. How does that affect the show? 1020 00:50:24.579 --> 00:50:26.840 Well, we didn't have that issue the first season. The 1021 00:50:27.179 --> 00:50:30.869 show didn't air yet. And then we were well aware of. 1022 00:50:31.710 --> 00:50:35.739 With success, that potentially being something that could be to 1023 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:39.510 the detriment of the show. But what we learned, thankfully, 1024 00:50:39.590 --> 00:50:45.619 is that filming in New York, while nowadays our shoot 1025 00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:47.539 days can be a

little longer because we do get 1026 00:50:47.579 --> 00:50:51.079 a little bit prohibited by people who recognize us and 1027 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:52.920 we have to kind of move them out of the 1028 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.619 way or make sure they don't blow our cover, that happens. 1029 00:50:55.820 --> 00:50:55.940 But. 1030 00:50:58.090 --> 00:51:00.510 New York is so densely populated with so many different 1031 00:51:00.530 --> 00:51:03.219 types of people that it's really the ideal place to 1032 00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.659 shoot the show because if someone recognizes me, I guarantee 1033 00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:07.760 you the next 10 people won't. 1034 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.760 So it impedes the show a little bit. 1035 00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.019 And sometimes it stinks because we'll be in the middle 1036 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.360 of something great and someone will recognize us and that 1037 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:16.699 kind of. 1038 00:51:16.699 --> 00:51:21.460 Has to all get thrown away. But it's pretty clear, 1039 00:51:21.500 --> 00:51:24.960 I think, knock on wood, hopefully, that it will not 1040 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.280 stop the show as a whole and the way it 1041 00:51:28.300 --> 00:51:33.079 gets made. We run the risk of, um, maybe losing 1042 00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:35.960 a day to, to, to being recognized. If we go 1043 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.909 to a place that's a little more remote with not 1044 00:51:38.949 --> 00:51:41.429 a lot of people there and, and, you know, and 1045 00:51:41.469 --> 00:51:44.489 not a lot of opportunity, but that's one of the 1046 00:51:44.750 --> 00:51:48.170 things we look for when we're booking our location is, 1047 00:51:48.250 --> 00:51:50.739 is there a lot of turnover in people? We have 1048 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:53.219 a lot of little tricks too. Sometimes we'll give presentations 1049 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.219 on the show. It's not just outdoors or in public 1050 00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:56.559 spaces or supermarkets. 1051 00:51:56.579 --> 00:51:59.960 Like a lot of times we're, um, In office buildings 1052 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.019 or at conferences and stuff like that. And we have 1053 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.710 to have– we stand on a stage and give lectures 1054 00:52:06.789 --> 00:52:10.110 or presentations to people pretending that we know what we're 1055 00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:13.170 doing but we don't. And sometimes there's three people. We'll 1056 00:52:13.190 --> 00:52:15.300 do like a focus group or a taste test. And 1057 00:52:15.340 --> 00:52:17.940 sometimes there's 30 people where I'm giving a business lecture. 1058 00:52:18.579 --> 00:52:20.679 And we have to make sure like if we're doing 1059 00:52:21.139 --> 00:52:23.639 a group with like 15, 20 people, if one of 1060 00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:25.400 those people in that room knows us and goes, oh, 1061 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.989 I know you guys. This is that show. Then that 1062 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.309 whole thing is ruined. 1063 00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:31.869 Yeah, I was going to say. I wonder about that. 1064 00:52:32.090 --> 00:52:35.429 Yeah, we have little tricks in place where like if 1065 00:52:35.469 --> 00:52:37.889 they're in a waiting room, a holding area, one of 1066 00:52:37.969 --> 00:52:41.190 us will go wait in that room. And we'll see, 1067 00:52:41.250 --> 00:52:43.309 we'll have other plants in there that work with us 1068 00:52:43.409 --> 00:52:45.969 and we'll see if someone recognizes us. 1069 00:52:46.369 --> 00:52:48.889 Usually before they yell something out, you see it in 1070 00:52:48.929 --> 00:52:52.219 their eyes or they'll say, excuse me, like that. And 1071 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.280 then we'll, we'll, we'll get that person and we'll quarantine 1072 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.079 them and take them out of the room. You know 1073 00:52:57.099 --> 00:52:57.400 what I mean? 1074 00:52:57.500 --> 00:52:58.320 Yeah, exactly. 1075 00:52:58.420 --> 00:53:00.239 We have all these little like kind of tricks in 1076 00:53:00.300 --> 00:53:02.500 place to make sure that that doesn't happen. It still 1077 00:53:02.539 --> 00:53:05.929 does slip through the cracks sometimes, but we're pretty, pretty 1078 00:53:05.989 --> 00:53:06.789 efficient that way. 1079 00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.179 You know, one of the things that I guess the 1080 00:53:09.219 --> 00:53:15.170 word could be endearing and enjoyable as a viewer about you, 1081 00:53:15.650 --> 00:53:18.659 specifically Sal, I guess all the guys too, but I 1082 00:53:18.860 --> 00:53:22.980 was watching a few episodes last night. And there's just 1083 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.860 this genuine feeling, to me at least as a viewer, 1084 00:53:27.110 --> 00:53:30.920 of your passion. nervousness or how freaked out you get 1085 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.400 during some of these things that there's no possible way 1086 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.789 that it's not your real emotion. And I think that 1087 00:53:37.889 --> 00:53:40.309 seems to be the essence of why the show works for, 1088 00:53:40.449 --> 00:53:43.289 for so many people. It's almost, it's hard to turn 1089 00:53:43.329 --> 00:53:45.650 it off. It gets addictive. And before you know it, 1090 00:53:45.670 --> 00:53:48.070 you've watched like four episodes back to back to back. 1091 00:53:48.409 --> 00:53:50.219 And you just, for some reason, you just, you're just 1092 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.739 drawn to it. And even people like my wife was 1093 00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:56.530 walking through the family room last night and just stopped. 1094 00:53:56.570 --> 00:53:58.730 And she's not a big TV watcher and just stopped 1095 00:53:59.050 --> 00:54:02.230 like dead in her tracks, standing up watching for a 1096 00:54:02.269 --> 00:54:04.349 whole bit or two or three or even, and then 1097 00:54:04.510 --> 00:54:06.570 extended onto the next episode. And I think that's part 1098

00:54:06.590 --> 00:54:09.280 of it is seeing you and how genuine, like you 1099 00:54:09.300 --> 00:54:12.000 get kind of just, you can just feel it as 1100 00:54:12.059 --> 00:54:14.599 the viewer to say, this is legit. This is real. 1101 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.860 And especially in the day and age when people see 1102 00:54:17.539 --> 00:54:20.000 certain reality shows, I know you're, you don't want to 1103 00:54:20.179 --> 00:54:22.579 be classified as that, but certain reality shows where it's 1104 00:54:22.780 --> 00:54:26.750 obviously like, Not exactly. It's scripted. It's not real. And 1105 00:54:26.769 --> 00:54:30.789 yours just seems legitimately like, oh, my gosh. You mentioned 1106 00:54:30.809 --> 00:54:33.469 the Jaden Smith tattoo. I mean, I watched that video 1107 00:54:33.489 --> 00:54:36.130 this morning as well. It was like this is as 1108 00:54:36.230 --> 00:54:37.969 real as it gets, and it's crazy. 1109 00:54:38.389 --> 00:54:38.670 Yeah. 1110 00:54:38.769 --> 00:54:42.429 Well, thank you. That's such a nice compliment. I mean, yeah, 1111 00:54:42.469 --> 00:54:45.269 I mean, that's something that we thought early on. Like, 1112 00:54:45.289 --> 00:54:49.150 you know, when we started on TruTV, their other programming. 1113 00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:52.010 That surrounded us was very different than ours. it's not 1114 00:54:52.070 --> 00:54:55.269 my favorite type of television, their old programming. And it 1115 00:54:55.409 --> 00:54:58.050 was skewing toward what you just said. It was called 1116 00:54:58.110 --> 00:55:02.030 reality TV, but then lately reality TV is all scripted anyway. 1117 00:55:02.210 --> 00:55:03.889 And it's, uh, you know, you could see that coming 1118 00:55:03.909 --> 00:55:05.960 from a mile away. It just, it's just phony TV. 1119 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.119 You know, it's kind of like a little bit mindless 1120 00:55:08.179 --> 00:55:10.320 and sometimes that's what people like and what you want 1121 00:55:10.340 --> 00:55:14.539 to watch, but it's all manufactured. And, you know, as a, as, as, 1122 00:55:14.619 --> 00:55:17.679 as comedian, the most important thing, the funniest thing really 1123 00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:21.019 is are things that are true. So, um, we come 1124 00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:23.179 from that school, you know, that's what, how we, we 1125 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.449 learned and everything. And, and so we made it abundantly clear, 1126 00:55:27.789 --> 00:55:30.849 you know, to them that, you know, our show will 1127 00:55:30.869 --> 00:55:33.150 be a hundred percent real, you know, with real people 1128 00:55:33.230 --> 00:55:35.510 and real moments, and we don't ever want to predict them. 1129 00:55:35.590 --> 00:55:38.630 And that is going to be what makes the show work. And, 1130 00:55:38.730 --> 00:55:40.849 you know, they got that and that's how we made it. 1131 00:55:40.949 --> 00:55:43.909 And even, you know, well, nowadays too, like we film 1132 00:55:43.929 --> 00:55:47.239 now and obviously I have a I'd like to think 1133 00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:49.119 I have somewhat of a tougher skin than when I 1134 00:55:49.179 --> 00:55:51.659 first started the show. When we first started, everything was 1135 00:55:51.730 --> 00:55:54.969 mortifying because you're never really. 1136 00:55:55.250 --> 00:55:58.150 In those types of social situations. You're just not. And 1137 00:55:58.210 --> 00:56:00.690 so even the littlest thing is like, oh, my God, 1138 00:56:00.769 --> 00:56:02.550 I really don't want to do this. 1139 00:56:02.610 --> 00:56:04.630 But I know that me not wanting to do it 1140 00:56:04.650 --> 00:56:07.460 is funny, but I still don't want to do it. Nowadays, 1141 00:56:07.500 --> 00:56:09.539 I've done it so much. I can read people a 1142 00:56:09.539 --> 00:56:12.300 little bit more. I've been in the trenches a little more. 1143 00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:17.019 So– I think nowadays, you know, we've evolved on how 1144 00:56:17.059 --> 00:56:20.039 we handle stuff. And it's a little bit harder and 1145 00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.739 more challenging in a good way to find something that 1146 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.400 will freak us out like it did in the beginning. 1147 00:56:24.940 --> 00:56:28.239 But we still receive and interpret those moments the same 1148 00:56:28.510 --> 00:56:31.349 at their core, which is if these cameras weren't on 1149 00:56:31.389 --> 00:56:33.489 us right now, you know, we wouldn't really want to 1150 00:56:33.510 --> 00:56:35.349 do this. And how would we react? 1151 00:56:35.389 --> 00:56:37.309 You know what I mean? And before we go out, 1152 00:56:37.369 --> 00:56:40.050 we just make sure that we just, like, play it 1153 00:56:40.090 --> 00:56:44.000 as real as possible. And... You're right. That is what 1154 00:56:44.019 --> 00:56:45.340 people have responded to. 1155 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:50.670 What about when people, you've done just a phenomenal bit 1156 00:56:51.250 --> 00:56:54.309 and the response is perfect from the people around you 1157 00:56:55.190 --> 00:56:58.269 and then the person says they will not agree to 1158 00:56:58.309 --> 00:57:00.789 being on the show and in order for the bit 1159 00:57:00.829 --> 00:57:02.429 to work, you've got to be able to see the 1160 00:57:02.489 --> 00:57:06.530 facial expressions so you can't just blur them out. What 1161 00:57:06.590 --> 00:57:08.289 happens at that moment? Because I know you can blur 1162 00:57:08.309 --> 00:57:10.130 people out if they don't sign the release form, but 1163 00:57:10.449 --> 00:57:13.090 Let's say it's necessary to see the person's face and 1164 00:57:13.110 --> 00:57:15.550 the way they react. How do you handle those situations? 1165 00:57:15.590 --> 00:57:18.789 Do you ever have to compensate them or what happens? Yeah. 1166 00:57:18.869 --> 00:57:21.099 So, yeah, I mean, like a lot of the comedy 1167 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:25.039 is driven from reaction. And so there are

certain instances 1168 00:57:25.099 --> 00:57:28.639 where the person didn't even react well, but what was 1169 00:57:28.659 --> 00:57:30.659 going on around them was funny and we'll use a blur. 1170 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.530 But I'd say for the lion's share of that, you 1171 00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:38.570 want no blurs. And, you know, every once in a while, like, 1172 00:57:38.730 --> 00:57:39.869 you know, every. 1173 00:57:39.510 --> 00:57:43.880 Maybe– couple, like two out of 10 people, they don't 1174 00:57:43.900 --> 00:57:47.199 want to sign for any number of reasons. They, they, 1175 00:57:47.659 --> 00:57:49.300 they appreciate it, but they just don't want to be 1176 00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:51.969 on TV. What have you from the most normal reasons 1177 00:57:52.010 --> 00:57:55.329 to sometimes the most salacious reasons where it's like, this 1178 00:57:55.409 --> 00:58:01.030 is not my wife. Like we've seen everything, you know, 1179 00:58:01.070 --> 00:58:03.829 like sometimes people are just like, Oh, if you guys, 1180 00:58:03.869 --> 00:58:05.110 I don't know, you know what I mean? But not 1181 00:58:05.130 --> 00:58:08.659 a lot, but If we need it, we'll first go 1182 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.769 out and we will appeal to them and their kindness 1183 00:58:11.829 --> 00:58:14.719 and explain how the show works and why we need it. 1184 00:58:15.489 --> 00:58:18.210 If they still say no, we'll offer to bring them. 1185 00:58:18.139 --> 00:58:20.920 In the back and show them what we recorded of 1186 00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:22.840 them and how it looks and what it's going to 1187 00:58:22.860 --> 00:58:25.659 look like. If they still say no, we offer to 1188 00:58:26.070 --> 00:58:29.389 take their information and send them the final product that 1189 00:58:29.409 --> 00:58:31.969 would air so they know exactly what's going to happen 1190 00:58:32.030 --> 00:58:34.030 and then they can sign off on that. If they 1191 00:58:34.070 --> 00:58:37.300 still say no, then we'll like even offer them money. 1192 00:58:37.340 --> 00:58:39.559 We don't have tons of money for that type of budget. 1193 00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:42.599 but you know sometimes a little goes a long way 1194 00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.019 just a gesture of where like a supermarket will say 1195 00:58:45.059 --> 00:58:46.900 like we'll buy all your groceries you know something like 1196 00:58:46.940 --> 00:58:50.210 that and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't and 1197 00:58:50.769 --> 00:58:53.409 when it doesn't work and they don't sign and it 1198 00:58:53.469 --> 00:58:58.789 was something that was like tear inducing hysterical it is 1199 00:58:58.829 --> 00:59:03.090 the most crushing defeated because you are like oh my 1200 00:59:03.130 --> 00:59:07.329 god that would have been like that would have sometimes 1201 00:59:07.369 --> 00:59:10.880 you know in a moment we know that when this airs, 1202 00:59:11.260 --> 00:59:14.639 people are going to literally attach onto it. And this 1203 00:59:14.699 --> 00:59:16.940 is going to become a catchphrase or this is going 1204 00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:18.760 to become a game everyone plays or this or that. 1205 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:21.900 And you just kind of know. And there are times 1206 00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:23.820 when we have those moments and then the people don't 1207 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.070 sign and you know that no one will ever see it. 1208 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:27.860 And you don't know when you're going to get a 1209 00:59:27.940 --> 00:59:29.340 magical moment like that again. 1210 00:59:30.130 --> 00:59:32.199 And it is rough. Like we all take a deep 1211 00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:33.800 breath and shake it off and you got to just 1212 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:36.719 continue with the day. But it's like it's rough because 1213 00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:37.840 if I get that moment. 1214 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:41.710 Let's say, for example, and you are on cloud nine, 1215 00:59:41.829 --> 00:59:44.869 because really the variable in our show is the public. 1216 00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:50.550 And you never know what type of person, physical, mental, 1217 00:59:51.409 --> 00:59:52.949 you know, personality-wise you're. 1218 00:59:52.829 --> 00:59:54.449 Going to get and how they're going to react. 1219 00:59:54.510 --> 00:59:58.130 And the way they react can elevate something a hundred 1220 00:59:58.170 --> 00:59:59.309 times funnier than what it was. 1221 01:00:00.110 --> 01:00:02.710 And it's really just a lottery. It's a jackpot of 1222 01:00:02.750 --> 01:00:03.239 who you get. 1223 01:00:03.260 --> 01:00:06.860 And so sometimes you hit on that person that magic 1224 01:00:06.900 --> 01:00:09.800 happens and we're all crying. And they say no and 1225 01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:12.239 you exhaust all your options and they walk away forever. 1226 01:00:13.179 --> 01:00:15.800 Like, oh, my God. And then you literally have to 1227 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.880 go again right after that and you get someone that 1228 01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:23.380 is like, it just sucks after that. It's tough. You 1229 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:25.900 have to stay funny. You have to stay in it. 1230 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:29.239 So it is rough. 1231 01:00:29.260 --> 01:00:31.389 I can imagine that that could be some of the 1232 01:00:31.409 --> 01:00:34.630 tough moments. I got one more question, Sal. I know 1233 01:00:34.690 --> 01:00:37.530 we're up against it, but I'm curious. We mentioned earlier 1234 01:00:37.550 --> 01:00:42.920 in our conversation at the beginning about common characteristics of 1235 01:00:43.059 --> 01:00:46.260 great comics, of what you've been able to do, of 1236 01:00:46.340 --> 01:00:50.909 being passionate, of almost being obsessive about what your craft 1237 01:00:50.949 --> 01:00:53.130 and what you do and studying it and being immersed 1238 01:00:53.170 --> 01:00:57.170 in it. Who are some of the comedians currently or 1239 01:00:57.230 -->

01:00:59.590 maybe in the past that you look up to that 1240 01:00:59.610 --> 01:01:00.710 you admire the most? 1241 01:01:02.130 --> 01:01:02.650 Oh, man. 1242 01:01:03.250 --> 01:01:06.900 Whenever I get asked that one, it's so much deeper 1243 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:07.340 for me. 1244 01:01:08.219 --> 01:01:13.980 But I would say... I mean, growing up, uh, Steve Martin, 1245 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:21.519 John Candy, Andy Kaufman, Eddie Murphy. I mean, notwithstanding the 1246 01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:22.440 horrible shit now. 1247 01:01:22.530 --> 01:01:26.349 Bill Cosby, uh, you know, uh, Leslie Nielsen and the 1248 01:01:26.389 --> 01:01:27.789 Zucker brothers, the guys who. 1249 01:01:27.690 --> 01:01:29.150 Made like airplane and naked gun. 1250 01:01:29.170 --> 01:01:29.610 Yeah. 1251 01:01:30.030 --> 01:01:33.510 Uh, Letterman, Bill Murray, Don Rickles. They listened to Howard 1252 01:01:33.530 --> 01:01:38.119 Stern growing up. Um, I don't know, Martin Short. 1253 01:01:38.539 --> 01:01:41.360 These are guys I watched their movies over and over 1254 01:01:41.409 --> 01:01:43.170 and over and I watched their stand-up over and over 1255 01:01:43.269 --> 01:01:47.269 and I memorized it. One of my biggest comedic influences 1256 01:01:47.349 --> 01:01:51.250 was that people are usually surprised to hear is Sherman Hemsley. 1257 01:01:51.289 --> 01:01:55.579 He played George Jefferson. Oh. From the Jeffersons. 1258 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:58.619 I don't know if you know that sitcom. It's a 1259 01:01:58.699 --> 01:02:02.699 black sitcom from the 70s. And I grew up watching it. 1260 01:02:03.070 --> 01:02:05.110 And I thought that he was the funniest thing in 1261 01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:08.000 the world. So I used to memorize... Like I. 1262 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.940 Used to watch TV– this is before DVR and even 1263 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.780 before VCR. I used to watch TV and I used. 1264 01:02:13.699 --> 01:02:17.210 To write down his lines and then I used to– 1265 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:19.539 I had an impression of him and then I would 1266 01:02:19.579 --> 01:02:22.510 like recite his lines for like my family and in 1267 01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:23.750 class and stuff like that. 1268 01:02:23.769 --> 01:02:26.510 He was a huge influence. Jefferson is like my favorite 1269 01:02:26.530 --> 01:02:27.730 show of all time. Wow. 1270 01:02:28.849 --> 01:02:30.900 You know, and then, and so I just, you know, I, 1271 01:02:31.190 --> 01:02:33.510 you build off those guys and they're, they're in a 1272 01:02:33.550 --> 01:02:36.289 different people. I named like Seinfeld too. They were just 1273 01:02:36.329 --> 01:02:39.420 in a different class. They're just like old world funny 1274 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:39.679 to me. 1275 01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:41.760 Like, you know what I mean? They just, and that's 1276 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:42.860 kind of like where it came from. 1277 01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:47.519 And then like nowadays you have, you

know, everyone from 1278 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.449 like a Sasha Baron Cohen is, is, and of course 1279 01:02:50.510 --> 01:02:54.289 he was probably influenced by Andy Kaufman himself, you know, but, um, 1280 01:02:54.789 --> 01:02:59.539 this comedian is working today that like, Everyone from stand-up 1281 01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.420 to not. Like, Sunny in Philadelphia is, like, one of 1282 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:02.320 my favorite shows. 1283 01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:05.860 Nathan For You is a show on Comedy Central that 1284 01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:10.130 is probably the most brilliant show I've ever seen. And then, like, 1285 01:03:10.150 --> 01:03:15.510 there's comedians today I love. Gary Goldman. I mean, I 1286 01:03:15.530 --> 01:03:20.070 could just name names, but Tom Segura, Gary Goldman, Sebastian Maniscalco, 1287 01:03:20.090 --> 01:03:24.320 Bill Burr, of course. I like John Mulaney, Tommy Johnigan. 1288 01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.480 On Joe Rogan's podcast, Doug Stanhope was talking about you 1289 01:03:27.500 --> 01:03:29.280 guys recently. Yes. 1290 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:32.559 So the guys I named just now are not like 1291 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:35.519 my dear friends. So I try to keep a separation 1292 01:03:35.539 --> 01:03:38.360 because really like my dear friends in comedy, I can 1293 01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:39.199 name them all. 1294 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.760 And it would seem like I'm naming them because they're 1295 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:49.300 my friends. But Doug Stanhope, Big Jay Oakerson, Dom Herrera, 1296 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:54.059 Steve Byrne, Owen Benjamin, Roy Wood. These guys are like 1297 01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.030 the frigging– Stanhope is in a class of his own too. 1298 01:03:57.650 --> 01:04:00.610 He just does it his way. His approach to comedy 1299 01:04:00.650 --> 01:04:01.429 is so different. 1300 01:04:01.449 --> 01:04:03.030 He doesn't really even play comedy clubs. 1301 01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:05.949 He just tours on his own, his own venues. He's 1302 01:04:06.010 --> 01:04:09.510 cultivated his own following. He has such a distinct voice. 1303 01:04:09.610 --> 01:04:13.860 It's so not like anyone else's. He's a genius. 1304 01:04:14.219 --> 01:04:19.380 Well, the thing about Stanhope is he's... He's just so 1305 01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.900 honest and so brutal, I think, for some people. But 1306 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.900 you mentioned it. I admire him because even though some 1307 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.539 of the things he's saying, people, just behind the scenes, 1308 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.900 he did AJ's podcast, and it was so rough that 1309 01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:39.480 AJ could not release it. AJ might not want me 1310 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.880 telling people that, but he will someday, but not while 1311 01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.320 he's a current NFL player. But Stan Hope was so, 1312 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:47.159 I listened to some of it, and I was like, oh, 1313 01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:51.199 my God. But that's him, right? And he's not going 1314 01:04:51.219 --> 01:04:53.340 to– he's going to do what he does. But I 1315 01:04:53.389 --> 01:04:58.010 think he is brilliantly smart, almost like you mentioned, genius 1316 01:04:58.050 --> 01:05:02.849 level intelligence, but so funny and just so– I think 1317 01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:05.429 we all can admire people who do it their way 1318 01:05:05.750 --> 01:05:09.159 and just– he's built up a massive tribe that loves him. 1319 01:05:10.119 --> 01:05:12.139 Dude, he's the real deal. Like the way I met 1320 01:05:12.179 --> 01:05:14.599 him was I saw he started following me on Twitter, 1321 01:05:15.139 --> 01:05:18.369 which I couldn't believe. And he tweeted that he just 1322 01:05:18.469 --> 01:05:21.590 loved the show. He said he normally hates it or 1323 01:05:21.610 --> 01:05:24.090 he loves it in camera, but it always sucks. And 1324 01:05:24.150 --> 01:05:26.590 this show he loves. And we were like, oh, my God. 1325 01:05:26.690 --> 01:05:28.869 And it was when we first started and we were 1326 01:05:28.909 --> 01:05:31.730 having– We were so new to stuff and we were 1327 01:05:31.750 --> 01:05:35.250 wondering how to approach some situations professionally with the network 1328 01:05:35.309 --> 01:05:36.889 and stuff. And I messaged him and I said, would 1329 01:05:36.909 --> 01:05:39.349 you mind if I called you for advice? And he 1330 01:05:39.389 --> 01:05:40.530 was like, no, of course not. 1331 01:05:41.030 --> 01:05:43.530 And I was nervous at first too because I know 1332 01:05:43.570 --> 01:05:46.860 of him, the persona that everyone knows. And I didn't 1333 01:05:46.889 --> 01:05:49.940 know like, you know, how. 1334 01:05:49.820 --> 01:05:50.360 To– I. 1335 01:05:52.059 --> 01:05:52.619 Didn't know him. 1336 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:56.579 So I just didn't know– how the conversation would go. 1337 01:05:57.059 --> 01:05:59.710 I quickly learned that he's like the sweetest, most genuine 1338 01:05:59.730 --> 01:06:02.369 dude in the world. And he just, Q and I 1339 01:06:02.389 --> 01:06:03.869 were in a car. We pulled over on the side 1340 01:06:03.889 --> 01:06:05.849 of the road and called him, talked to him like 1341 01:06:05.869 --> 01:06:07.840 an hour. Cause he used to be having the man 1342 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:10.980 show with Joe Rogan. He had experience dealing with the network. 1343 01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.840 He gave us advice and talked to us. And from 1344 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:17.760 there we established our friendship and relationship. And he has been, 1345 01:06:18.769 --> 01:06:21.010 And I agree. I don't agree with everything that he says, 1346 01:06:21.269 --> 01:06:24.320 and a lot of it I do. And I just 1347 01:06:24.340 --> 01:06:27.099 sit back and totally appreciate how. 1348 01:06:27.139 --> 01:06:32.340 Candid and just upfront he can be about anything he 1349 01:06:32.380 --> 01:06:34.059 believes in,

whether I agree with it or not. You 1350 01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.539 know what I mean? Yeah. And– He is so supportive 1351 01:06:38.579 --> 01:06:38.800 of us. 1352 01:06:38.820 --> 01:06:42.219 The dude has flown across the country just to come 1353 01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:44.760 hang out with us when we tour like three or 1354 01:06:44.820 --> 01:06:47.239 four times. He was there when we taped our first 1355 01:06:47.300 --> 01:06:49.679 hour special. He was on our cruise that we had 1356 01:06:49.739 --> 01:06:53.050 last week and he's the nicest, sweetest dude. I've stayed 1357 01:06:53.070 --> 01:06:56.329 at his home for a while and it just goes 1358 01:06:56.369 --> 01:06:59.650 to show you. You know what I mean? It's so true. 1359 01:06:59.849 --> 01:07:03.789 AJ had him on and he's so blunt and you 1360 01:07:03.809 --> 01:07:06.389 can appreciate that but AJ has to protect himself a little. 1361 01:07:07.340 --> 01:07:09.239 like that's like it like almost like the how it's 1362 01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.440 turned thing too it's like you know like people only 1363 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:16.389 know they don't they don't like perceive past the first 1364 01:07:16.630 --> 01:07:19.489 layer or they just or they're just not they're just 1365 01:07:19.510 --> 01:07:22.409 not well-rounded enough to know that you can disagree with 1366 01:07:22.449 --> 01:07:27.199 someone or basically you know just because someone's saying their 1367 01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:28.360 mind and being blunt. 1368 01:07:28.139 --> 01:07:30.199 Doesn't mean it has to offend you know what i mean. 1369 01:07:30.019 --> 01:07:35.010 Exactly no i'm exactly right yeah it's It's cool to 1370 01:07:35.030 --> 01:07:36.590 talk about. I could talk to you all day. So, 1371 01:07:36.690 --> 01:07:39.550 I mean, I'm really appreciative of your time, Sal, and 1372 01:07:39.869 --> 01:07:42.760 I love what you're doing, and I can't say it 1373 01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.510 enough that I admire it, I respect it. You are 1374 01:07:45.659 --> 01:07:48.500 absolutely a leader and certainly a learner in your own right, 1375 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:49.800 and that's why I think you're a great fit for 1376 01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:51.860 the show, even though you're in a different arena that 1377 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:53.579 I usually get to talk to, and that's why I 1378 01:07:53.619 --> 01:07:55.440 loved having the opportunity to do this one with you. 1379 01:07:55.460 --> 01:07:57.960 So thank you so much for being here. Is there 1380 01:07:58.019 --> 01:08:00.519 anywhere you'd want to send people to look more up 1381 01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:01.309 online about you? 1382 01:08:02.590 --> 01:08:05.590 Well I mean the tenderloins.com is our website that has 1383 01:08:05.610 --> 01:08:06.969 like all of our tour dates. 1384 01:08:07.429 --> 01:08:10.079 And stuff on there and. 1385 01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:11.920 I guess that's pretty much it I mean I'm constantly 1386 01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.840 touring the show starts again February 11th and my Twitter 1387 01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:18.119 is at Sal Volcano and that pretty much covers all 1388 01:08:18.140 --> 01:08:20.279 the bases but I am really thankful that you asked 1389 01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.060 me it was really really a great conversation I enjoyed 1390 01:08:23.090 --> 01:08:23.840 it so much man. 1391 01:08:23.939 --> 01:08:27.069 Thanks man we'll definitely continue this dialogue man I'm excited 1392 01:08:27.109 --> 01:08:29.569 to see what you guys as you continue to progress 1393 01:08:29.630 --> 01:08:31.510 and we'll be talking man Great. 1394 01:08:31.569 --> 01:08:32.789 Thank you so much, Ryan. Thanks, man. 1395 01:08:32.949 --> 01:08:33.409 Bye. 1396 01:08:35.069 --> 01:08:37.560 This episode of The Learning Leader Show is over, but 1397 01:08:37.569 --> 01:08:39.739 we have plenty more to keep you locked in until 1398 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:44.300 next time. Head over to learningleadershow.com for more information and 1399 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:48.930 to request your favorite entrepreneur, CEO, world-class athlete, or anyone 1400 01:08:48.970 --> 01:08:51.609 else that inspires you. You can also talk to Ryan 1401 01:08:51.630 --> 01:08:54.949 directly by reaching out to him on Twitter at RyanHawk12. 1402 01:08:55.489 --> 01:08:57.550 Thanks again, and we'll see you next time on The 1403 01:08:57.590 --> 01:08:58.449 Learning Leader Show.

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