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WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:08.150 Hello and welcome to the dagger, the PODCAST, where we cover all things 2 00:00:08.189 --> 00:00:11.630 and bea and the top news and all the basketball. I'm your host, 3 00:00:11.710 --> 00:00:15.949 Taylor call and I've joined, as always, by the boys, Dean Franklin, 4 00:00:16.190 --> 00:00:20.269 Dj Johnson. How we doing, fellows? Great, got your rights 5 00:00:20.510 --> 00:00:25.899 left to talk about today. Quick Reminder to follow us on Instagram at the 6 00:00:26.179 --> 00:00:30.579 DOT dagger podcast to interact with the show and keep up today. So last 7 00:00:30.660 --> 00:00:34.899 week talked about the mock draft and now, finally, I say finally, 8 00:00:34.939 --> 00:00:38.969 it's only been a week, but we need to talk about four. This 9 00:00:39.170 --> 00:00:42.890 is kind of the bread and butter of every NBA conspiracy, theorist right. 10 00:00:43.090 --> 00:00:47.649 Who's going where? WHO's getting moved, who's staying pat we live for all 11 00:00:47.729 --> 00:00:51.679 of that. But I think the top story in all of basketball right now 12 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:57.560 has to be the Houston Rockets. Oh Yeah, Houston, we have a 13 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:04.430 problem. WHAT IS GOING ON AT HOUSTON? They going crazy on there. 14 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:08.629 I don't know what they doing under in Texas. I mean we sat here 15 00:01:10.030 --> 00:01:15.590 not two weeks ago on our very first episode, perplexed at the Houston coaching 16 00:01:15.670 --> 00:01:19.939 hire and we're like that felt like kind of a weird and move, and 17 00:01:19.060 --> 00:01:23.819 here we are not two weeks later and their stars want out. Apparently they 18 00:01:23.859 --> 00:01:30.739 agree with us. Went on. So West Brook a few days ago visually 19 00:01:30.819 --> 00:01:36.170 wants out of Houston. Hardened today said he wants out of Houston. Officially. 20 00:01:36.329 --> 00:01:42.609 He is shopping himself, basically. And so let's take the point of 21 00:01:42.650 --> 00:01:45.090 the rockets right now. What are the rocket? What did they do? 22 00:01:46.170 --> 00:01:49.719 So they have two superstars. They're disgruntled rookie head coach. What do they 23 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.040 do? To be honest, I have no idea what they're going to do 24 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.079 because they give away like so many of their pics, I think last year 25 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.109 for a cpthree to your stars, one up, two years ago. Yeah, 26 00:02:01.629 --> 00:02:06.430 they're stars, one out you coaches. They don't have a center, 27 00:02:06.989 --> 00:02:09.710 they don't have any like good picks in this draft. I have no idea 28 00:02:09.750 --> 00:02:14.349 what it's going to gonna happen. To be honest, I'm really excited to 29 00:02:14.389 --> 00:02:17.500 see, but I'm perplexed. I don't know what the GM is thinking. 30 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:22.419 I don't think they have any plans either. Yeah, see, I used 31 00:02:22.419 --> 00:02:24.860 to think the bachelor was the most dramatic thing I could see on TV, 32 00:02:25.939 --> 00:02:31.810 and then here'Ston kind of took that over. I think like three or four 33 00:02:31.969 --> 00:02:38.930 new stories about them drop a day and it's always somebody's unhappy, somebody wants 34 00:02:38.930 --> 00:02:45.080 a new contract. Austin rivers was talking to James while shot of free, 35 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:47.800 though, so he missed it. It's like that's like you need probably you 36 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:52.840 need popcorn, you really do, because each and every time there's some mo 37 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.199 going on. I think, for my point of view, I think you 38 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:59.990 have to wonder if the rockets for kind of planning on this, because we 39 00:03:00.069 --> 00:03:02.789 all kind of scratched our head when they let Dantoni go. Whatever you think 40 00:03:02.789 --> 00:03:07.189 of Dantoni as a coach, obviously hardened and I think westbrook to. I 41 00:03:07.270 --> 00:03:12.030 think they bought into Dantoni. I think they like this system. They liked 42 00:03:12.189 --> 00:03:15.500 being able to shoot, they like running, they liked at not having to 43 00:03:15.500 --> 00:03:20.379 play defense, and they let d'antoni go. They move on from more's GM. 44 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:23.580 You know, they're starting from the top down, and so what did 45 00:03:23.659 --> 00:03:27.650 you think was going to happen? You? Did you really think that, 46 00:03:27.849 --> 00:03:30.490 harden and Westbrook, we're going to buy into Steven Silas as your head coach? 47 00:03:31.129 --> 00:03:34.610 Like you chose not to make a splash. You know, there were 48 00:03:35.210 --> 00:03:40.370 some much more established coaches out there that were available and you chose Steven Silas. 49 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.759 Not that I'm not going Steven Silas like. He could be a good 50 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.159 coach. We don't know. But the point is clearly hardened and Westbrook did 51 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:51.719 not buy in, or else they would be staying. They clearly think they're 52 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.039 moving the wrong direction, and so I don't know if, like, this 53 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.030 is all part of Houston's plan, if they're cool with it, or if 54 00:03:58.069 --> 00:04:01.469 they are secretly like panicking, like, Oh crap, what do we do 55 00:04:01.590 --> 00:04:06.030 now? I feel like they're panicking, like they have none. You gotta 56 00:04:06.069 --> 00:04:10.340 BE PA gotta be talking. You have nothing and you're about to lose your 57 00:04:10.460 --> 00:04:15.900 two superstars. I mean that leaves you with an insane amount of cast face 58 00:04:15.420 --> 00:04:20.019 and I don't know. Who want to go there after two huge names like 59 00:04:20.100 --> 00:04:25.089 those late? You go there and there's nothing.
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There's absolutely nothing. There's 60 00:04:25.329 --> 00:04:29.089 no type of game play. Yeah, I mean, do we think? 61 00:04:29.689 --> 00:04:32.129 Do we think the rocket should just blow it up? Should they move hardened 62 00:04:32.250 --> 00:04:36.889 and Westbrook and maybe Gordon, like they already traded Cappello last year. Like, 63 00:04:38.009 --> 00:04:40.720 do you think this is all part of the plan? I think they 64 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:46.160 I think they shouldn't move harden and Westbrook at this point because they clearly stay 65 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:51.949 there disapproval of Management and the coaching. So what I've been thinking for my 66 00:04:53.149 --> 00:04:58.829 perspective is trade them all and get picks, as many picks as you can. 67 00:04:59.790 --> 00:05:02.870 I started this point. You got to blow it up. I think 68 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:05.389 they got to be strategic, though, and how to blow it up. 69 00:05:05.509 --> 00:05:11.699 Like I would say trade, say James First and see what kind of you 70 00:05:11.899 --> 00:05:15.899 can get, like the capital for Jimes. You could probably get a bowload 71 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:20.220 of picks, probably a couple nice pieces. See what that looks around like 72 00:05:20.420 --> 00:05:25.889 what that looks like around Westbrook, and then you can try to move West 73 00:05:26.089 --> 00:05:28.449 would you got to be strate, teaching, how you reveal, but you 74 00:05:28.529 --> 00:05:30.449 still got to blow it all up at this point. I think so. 75 00:05:31.050 --> 00:05:35.759 Yeah, in those restarted that's a thirty eight million a piece. Yeah, 76 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:41.000 I think hire's I think there's going to be a really strong market for harden. 77 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.680 I mean he's only two years from it, from an MVP. You 78 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:46.800 know, from what I've been hearing, it sounds like the market for him 79 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:50.990 is very healthy. Of A lot of teams could be potentially interested in hardened. 80 00:05:51.629 --> 00:05:55.629 Westbrook, I think is a little bit more interesting, especially with the 81 00:05:55.670 --> 00:05:58.670 Suns, which we'll talk about in a minute already making a move for Chris 82 00:05:58.750 --> 00:06:00.550 Paul. Okay, they were in there were the market for a point guard 83 00:06:01.269 --> 00:06:03.899 closed. They had their eyes on Chris Paul and even though it's not I 84 00:06:03.939 --> 00:06:06.939 don't think it's officially yet, but they went on rather guy. Yeah, 85 00:06:09.139 --> 00:06:12.579 yeah, and so they went out and got Chris Paul. That's one more 86 00:06:12.699 --> 00:06:16.980 team that had assets that no longer needs a point guard. So I think 87 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:21.490 the market for Westbrook might be smaller than we think. I hear the jazz 88 00:06:21.529 --> 00:06:29.569 are shopping but, as has been well chronicled, brody and the chat not 89 00:06:29.730 --> 00:06:32.480 gonna there's not a recipe, and I know this because I was living in 90 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:40.920 Utah at the time. Multiple incidents, plural huscle WESTBROOK getting into it with 91 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:46.120 Utah Fans. MMM, WESTBROOK BASHING THE FANS IN UTAH, the People in 92 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.990 Utah saying that. You know, I think there was an element of race 93 00:06:50.149 --> 00:06:55.310 in there, which is never a good look. And so brody in the 94 00:06:55.310 --> 00:06:59.230 jazz do not get along. I would be shocked if he's the point guard 95 00:06:59.790 --> 00:07:02.060 of his own free will and choice of the Utah. Yeah, I think 96 00:07:02.139 --> 00:07:08.060 you're traded there. He'll probably just refuse to play kind of calling with Dolla, 97 00:07:08.899 --> 00:07:12.420 but then the other option is the knicks. It is that have really 98 00:07:12.620 --> 00:07:15.689 better? Do you want to be the point guard my New York Dick's at 99 00:07:15.730 --> 00:07:21.490 your set this stage in your career? So, I mean, is Houston 100 00:07:21.689 --> 00:07:26.649 really that bad compared to New York and Utah? For Brodie, I don't 101 00:07:26.689 --> 00:07:30.720 know. I don't know what the markets like for him. You might not 102 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.439 have a lot of strong options. I don't know. HMM, okay, 103 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.360 I think we gotta give Nicks fans some kind of hope, you know, 104 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.360 like it's the holidays. Can we at least say like maybe you get Westbrook, 105 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.350 you get you did some ticket sales other than something. Come on, 106 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:48.670 come on, because we're trying to run a show here. We're not in 107 00:07:48.750 --> 00:07:55.069 the business of hope, business of accurate takes. It's that it was a 108 00:07:55.110 --> 00:07:57.870 holidays. I was trying to be nice, but you really I don't know 109 00:07:57.870 --> 00:08:00.620 if the NAKE I don't know if it matters. I don't know if it 110 00:08:00.699 --> 00:08:03.779 matters to go. I mean this point, Heybe I have him going there 111 00:08:05.139 --> 00:08:11.019 like either there are Lando. I think New York really really need skimming of 112 00:08:11.259 --> 00:08:18.810 some players because their contracts are horrible and they can get a lot to Houston 113 00:08:18.290 --> 00:08:22.649 and I think rust could actually work there because you know they have a young 114 00:08:22.769 --> 00:08:28.800 corps with our J and Kevin Knox, and usually young guys like to run. 115 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:35.000 So I think it would mess his supposiveness. And I don't know why, 116 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.399 other than trying to get some butts and some seats, why they would 117 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.590 even want Westbrook to begin with. Like West Brooks already a little bit past 118 00:08:41.669 -->
00:08:46.389 his prime. Still very effective, still very effective, still a good player, 119 00:08:46.509 --> 00:08:48.950 probably a lot of basketball left, but his best days are probably behind 120 00:08:48.950 --> 00:08:54.750 him. He's no longer an MVP form. I don't think it is probably 121 00:08:54.789 --> 00:08:58.980 least a little bit downhill from here and the Nicks aren't in any position to 122 00:08:58.059 --> 00:09:01.740 contend anytime stone. So what would that really do? Why would you give 123 00:09:01.740 --> 00:09:07.340 up assets? But what contender would say Russell Westbrook right now, right? 124 00:09:07.460 --> 00:09:09.690 That's what I'm saying. Is The market for him? It's probably not as 125 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:13.409 strong as we might think. Who knows, maybe a third team comes out 126 00:09:13.409 --> 00:09:16.490 of left field and you know, the price might be right. But I 127 00:09:16.529 --> 00:09:20.929 don't know. What I'm saying, though, is I think the nets are, 128 00:09:20.649 --> 00:09:24.129 you know, the team rumor for James Hard and I think they can 129 00:09:24.169 --> 00:09:26.840 make a pretty healthy offer for James Harley? Yeah, yeah, but I 130 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.159 don't know what team out there is willing to sell the farm for Russell Westbrook. 131 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.080 If I was at GM, I don't think I'd be willing to sell 132 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.080 the farm for him at this point. I think I think the Hornets might 133 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.830 do it. I could see that one team to just being crazy enough to 134 00:09:39.909 --> 00:09:45.029 kind of pull the trigger. I think Michael George is pretty fond of Westbrook. 135 00:09:45.230 --> 00:09:48.590 I think that competitive nature that they both on the share our common might 136 00:09:48.669 --> 00:09:50.990 help. But has been which I listen for a while. Exactly. I 137 00:09:52.070 --> 00:09:54.700 can see that as maybe a comic connection, but as far as a contender 138 00:09:56.059 --> 00:09:58.460 and like having a chance to win, I don't see it. But him 139 00:09:58.500 --> 00:10:01.100 running his own show. I think that's his best bet at this point. 140 00:10:01.139 --> 00:10:05.500 And also I also see the same thing for the Hornets, though. What 141 00:10:05.580 --> 00:10:09.929 would they really stand to gain? It's not like getting westbrook suddenly puts them 142 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:13.529 in the playoffs either. But if I think they need, as saids to 143 00:10:13.090 --> 00:10:16.850 what's you call them? They can couple them up with their number three big 144 00:10:18.529 --> 00:10:22.840 maybe the mellow or James Wisn't let me if you it. If you get 145 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.120 Westbrook, you can't pick a mellow to that is actually I mean if you 146 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.000 get stifies me, but I don't think that team is necessarily win in a 147 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.320 lot
of games. Them or the Knicks. Even with Westbrooks, I don't 148 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.710 really see the point. Even in the east. I don't know, maybe 149 00:10:39.789 --> 00:10:41.710 just hungry for a superstar, trying to sell some tickets, but I mean 150 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:45.669 we're still in covid so that doesn't really make sense either. Yeah, no 151 00:10:45.750 --> 00:10:50.220 idea. I think if I'm GM at either of those things, that teams, 152 00:10:50.259 --> 00:10:52.139 I think I'm hanging on to what I got. I don't know. 153 00:10:52.940 --> 00:10:56.779 That's just my thoughts. Okay, so then let's talk about what I hint 154 00:10:56.860 --> 00:11:01.220 to that talked about Westbrook what about hardened to the nets potentially? What do 155 00:11:01.259 --> 00:11:03.490 you guys think of that? That's been the number one ever since harden opted 156 00:11:03.490 --> 00:11:07.529 out this morning. That's all I've been seeing. It's hard wants to be 157 00:11:07.570 --> 00:11:11.450 back with Duran and like Skyrie and wants to go to the nets. I 158 00:11:11.610 --> 00:11:15.450 think I just want to get in touch. I want to get in touch 159 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:20.000 with his financial advisor, because any man that is in a position to turn 160 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.039 down fifty million dollars per year, I need to kind of take advice from, 161 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.679 because it obviously seems like, no matter what, that Houston is just 162 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:35.789 not the place where he sees his championship window and I think he really the 163 00:11:35.950 --> 00:11:41.029 idea of reunited with KD and being in that kind of system, possibly under 164 00:11:41.029 --> 00:11:46.070 Dantoni again. I guess I just seems a pilling tell harden and then you 165 00:11:46.179 --> 00:11:50.419 could possibly have a three headed monster. Would hardness her primary for so tighter 166 00:11:52.019 --> 00:11:56.500 and obviously with Steve Nash Coach, and that often is, might be highly 167 00:11:56.620 --> 00:12:00.740 potent and I just don't see how, you know, the nets would really 168 00:12:00.779 --> 00:12:03.169 pass that up. I mean, of for they probably got have to give 169 00:12:03.210 --> 00:12:07.610 up, obviously Dan Witty, levert, jared island, I'm probably a couple 170 00:12:07.769 --> 00:12:13.210 pis they have. But I guess in this in today's league, like if 171 00:12:13.289 --> 00:12:16.720 you can go for and you got a chance, why not, especially when 172 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.679 you got a superstar who's clearly making his priority to leave, which James is 173 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.519 obviously like trying to do at this point? Yeah, I agree, but 174 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:35.070 only problem I see in Brooklyn is how would Katie he react with to ball 175 00:12:35.110 --> 00:12:39.710 dribblers, Kate Make Kyrie and harden, you know, because dribbling the ball 176 00:12:39.830 -->
00:12:41.950 ten seconds outside the three point line and then check it out shots. How 177 00:12:43.029 --> 00:12:46.460 can that work together? Maybe sevens has something that you can pull up his 178 00:12:46.580 --> 00:12:52.220 sleeve. I just don't think that the nets was suit his playing style. 179 00:12:52.580 --> 00:12:56.019 I will see them him better in Philadelphia, but right now they saying that 180 00:12:56.340 --> 00:13:03.529 Philly and Brooklyn are his to top list nations. You know what, I 181 00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:07.610 love James Harden to the nets. I love it. You do all they're 182 00:13:07.610 --> 00:13:11.250 at it. They should go out and sign Carmelo Anthony. They should bring 183 00:13:11.289 --> 00:13:16.720 Allen Iverson at a retirement let's just nothing. But I sewball on the entire 184 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.039 don't worry, there's totally two hundred and five ty shots up for grabs every 185 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:26.600 game. No worries. That's singing like what you could have bring in another 186 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.350 dude who admitted pretty pick James Harden on offense fan, but another guy who 187 00:13:31.350 --> 00:13:37.549 doesn't play defense, another guy who wants to hold the ball and dribble thirteen 188 00:13:37.669 --> 00:13:41.299 times these possessions. That was a good work. But they have that, 189 00:13:41.500 --> 00:13:45.820 you know, points, but they're cooking up some special in Brooklyn. Remember, 190 00:13:45.860 --> 00:13:48.580 they don't have a head coach. You know, it's a collectors today 191 00:13:48.740 --> 00:13:52.340 it's a limos. You know they don't just get together, hold hands it, 192 00:13:52.460 --> 00:13:56.730 just make decisions as a group. It's going to be great. Nope, 193 00:13:56.529 --> 00:14:00.570 just bringing figure girl Allen Iverson while you're at it. It'll be great. 194 00:14:00.570 --> 00:14:05.809 Yeah, I just I'm obviously being sarcastic. I don't think it makes 195 00:14:05.850 --> 00:14:09.409 a lot of sense. You know, when you're talking about bringing in stars 196 00:14:09.490 --> 00:14:11.600 to Brooklyn, I don't think James Hardness what they need. There's a lot 197 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.840 of teams that could use you know, a veteran guy who can get a 198 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:18.759 lot of buckets, but I think Brooklyn already has two of those. So 199 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.279 it doesn't really make sense. I think the synergy is already a little off. 200 00:14:24.509 --> 00:14:28.350 But Oh yeah, doesn't make any sense. And who knows what they'll 201 00:14:28.389 --> 00:14:31.470 have to give up to get him too. That's done have a great track 202 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:35.350 record and trading for stars. So I'm dubious, to say the least. 203 00:14:35.350 --> 00:14:41.259 You have to like Max contracts already, and then you have all these like 204 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:46.220 role players that are ten million
of Pop. Like, what what are they 205 00:14:46.259 --> 00:14:50.860 going to do? Like James Harden's contract is forty to fifty million. Is 206 00:14:50.940 --> 00:14:54.929 You going to take a bakup? Well, I don't see that happening. 207 00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:58.690 I think you'd have to you would have to do in there. He's probably 208 00:14:58.809 --> 00:15:03.049 be interested in that, SOMM exactly. So I mean everyone's everyone sat here 209 00:15:03.090 --> 00:15:05.929 last year and said, is Westbrook and harden going to work for the same 210 00:15:07.049 --> 00:15:13.279 concerns? And like, I mean to answer that question kind of like I 211 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.519 know I was only two worked. It was only two of them, true, 212 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.279 and then you hays like three, he had a third. Like that's 213 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.549 like just like Kevin Durant can kind of playoff ball, but it is Kevin 214 00:15:22.590 --> 00:15:26.110 Durant really going to be okay with nine shots of game? No chance, 215 00:15:28.110 --> 00:15:31.230 after you're and not whooping to like this man. Want to kind of sit 216 00:15:31.350 --> 00:15:35.700 there and just let two guys trouble and maybe that spot up shooter. Yeah, 217 00:15:35.740 --> 00:15:39.299 not to mention the potentially fragilely e goes of all three of these guys. 218 00:15:39.419 --> 00:15:43.899 These guys are not known for being team first guys, and so mixing 219 00:15:43.980 --> 00:15:48.779 all three of them together is dangerous. I mean, I think at this 220 00:15:48.860 --> 00:15:52.289 point we got to talk about like superstars. Have not enjoyed playing with James 221 00:15:52.330 --> 00:15:56.769 Harden. He had Dwight Howard. Seems like a match made in heaven, 222 00:15:56.809 --> 00:16:00.570 right. White Howard wanted out, Chris Paul got to handle the ball for 223 00:16:00.690 --> 00:16:04.799 him. He wanted that out and then not three days ago, his good 224 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:11.399 friend Russell Westbrook, he wants out, and so I think, I mean 225 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.559 I don't know the specifics, but it's hard to not think that James Harden's 226 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.149 the problem and that other players just don't enjoy playing with them. So to 227 00:16:19.230 --> 00:16:22.070 me it feels like James Harden to the nets as a match made in Hell 228 00:16:22.230 --> 00:16:26.509 and should not happen. I mean, they'll probably get some regular season dubs, 229 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.990 but I don't really see him going anywhere. HMM. I mean, 230 00:16:32.070 --> 00:16:34.659 it's exciting like they could, you know, score a hundred and forty on 231 00:16:34.740 --> 00:16:38.460 average and give up hundred and thirty on average. I'd watch that, let's 232 00:16:38.500 --> 00:16:42.220 get TV, but I kind of don't think it's going anywhere. Yeah, 233 00:16:44.059 --> 00:16:45.899 it might be great for the regular season, but I don't know, wouldn't 234 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:48.889 come play at times when the going gets rough. I don't know if they 235 00:16:48.889 --> 00:16:53.690 can put together specially, especially what a rookie coach. You know I'm saying. 236 00:16:55.250 --> 00:16:57.730 It's not a coach Deon, it's a collaborators are going to get together 237 00:16:57.769 --> 00:17:00.440 and it's just going to be all good, no worries, they're not going 238 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.920 to hit any speed bumps, so they won't need any studying. What about 239 00:17:03.920 --> 00:17:08.039 it is fit in the Philly what do you guys think? I think that's 240 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:12.359 the best place to go. To me, I just I think hard to 241 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:18.589 look there, if anywhere. I think that's Billy's big as weekness is probably 242 00:17:18.670 --> 00:17:21.869 a guy who can create from all three levels. And then when you have 243 00:17:22.029 --> 00:17:26.509 been simmons, who can't really shoot an outside shot, why wouldn't you want 244 00:17:26.549 --> 00:17:30.259 a guy who can create for self and feed and be? I think it 245 00:17:30.259 --> 00:17:33.740 would give him be a little bit more spacing and they I think. I 246 00:17:33.859 --> 00:17:37.619 think doc groupers would live with hard and just kind of dribbling the ball, 247 00:17:37.660 --> 00:17:41.299 running the offense. I don't think that would bother dock too much just because 248 00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:45.690 he came from La with two superstars, just well, one superstar and a 249 00:17:45.730 --> 00:17:48.410 playoff pe last year. So I think I think you go, we work. 250 00:17:48.529 --> 00:17:55.569 I think I should be James Hard number one destination. Honestly, yeah, 251 00:17:56.089 --> 00:18:00.160 I agree. The only problem I see there is what does Ben What 252 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.960 has been? So what is he going to do if James Hardington's and because 253 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.680 not going to be ending the ball? He clearly can't shoot. So where 254 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.599 is he going to stand? You know, yeah, the problem for Philly 255 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:17.589 is they already have to bias Harris and Al Horford on herrendous contracts, and 256 00:18:17.789 --> 00:18:19.589 so to get hard and I'm pretty sure they would have to move both of 257 00:18:19.630 --> 00:18:22.589 them. I don't think right one, one hundred percent, because they both 258 00:18:22.869 --> 00:18:26.430 like thirty million, I think. And so that, hope, feels like 259 00:18:26.589 --> 00:18:30.500 a pretty substantial hurdle to, you know, convince somebody to take out Horford 260 00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:33.700 off their hands. But if you send rebuilding, maybe they do and, 261 00:18:34.059 --> 00:18:37.940 you know, get a flirty of picks. But to me that feels like 262 00:18:37.940 --> 00:18:41.049 a much better fit. You know, Joel and bead and Ben
Simmons both 263 00:18:41.089 --> 00:18:45.170 played defense. There are shots up for grab in Philly. They need an 264 00:18:45.210 --> 00:18:51.210 outside shooter, you know, they need somebody who can kind of dribble around 265 00:18:51.250 --> 00:18:55.049 and create on his own and create his own shot, and so it to 266 00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:57.359 me that makes much more sense than the nets. I don't know if James 267 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:02.200 Harden is interested in sense. I think he's just good friends with Kevin Durant 268 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.839 wants to go play with him. But from a basketball fit, philly feels 269 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:11.069 much more natural that we yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And they 270 00:19:11.150 --> 00:19:18.150 were ultimately have to get rid of Tobias Harris and Harvard, because I'm looking 271 00:19:18.150 --> 00:19:22.549 at their contracts right now. Tobias Harris is thirty two point seven million. 272 00:19:22.630 --> 00:19:26.900 I don't know why. A Hart for his twenty eight and he's thirty four 273 00:19:26.940 --> 00:19:30.980 years old. So I don't know what what they're trying to do. But 274 00:19:30.299 --> 00:19:34.619 if they want to bring in harden this at least one of the two has 275 00:19:34.660 --> 00:19:38.170 to go. Yeah, do you have to move Simmons to good hardened? 276 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:41.130 Do we think? No, we think they're heart you know, they don't 277 00:19:41.130 --> 00:19:45.569 have to include being no, because he's still on his rookie contract. You 278 00:19:45.609 --> 00:19:49.250 know, he didn't sign an extension yet. This is this is his third 279 00:19:49.289 --> 00:19:55.559 year right, I believe, still on the a million dollars contract. So 280 00:19:55.880 --> 00:20:00.240 I think he read, basically read started one year. So that's this is 281 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.680 technically is fourth season, but you still technically in play a game until the 282 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:11.109 second year. So what do you remember the whole controversy? Yeah, Mitchell, 283 00:20:11.829 --> 00:20:15.230 so, yeah, I guess technically this is a star like full season 284 00:20:15.309 --> 00:20:18.230 moon. HMM. Yeah, would have been a star pull season. Yeah, 285 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:21.579 and they can also resolve that issue. They if they want to keep, 286 00:20:21.660 --> 00:20:22.819 of course they want to do then Simmons, but they can like just 287 00:20:22.940 --> 00:20:27.380 give rid of both over them. So the Simmons has signed an extension. 288 00:20:27.900 --> 00:20:33.660 He didn't. So he has, okay, eight point one million next year. 289 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:36.970 So that's not bad. Okay, that's what I Hang O. that's 290 00:20:37.049 --> 00:20:40.250 move. That's movable to I think, all the sure. So he signed 291 00:20:40.250 --> 00:20:41.930 it for next year. Has To be backloaded. There's no way he's only 292 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:47.809 making eight million. No, it was contract loaded, but there's only the 293 00:20:47.890 --> 00:20:51.279 six years left on his rookie contract. No, you probably signed an extension 294 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:53.720 for next summer. Let makes decided, I think, for after his walkie 295 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.400 contract is done. Yeah, the extension two years ago, I think. 296 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:03.279 So we won't kick in into that rookie needle is then it'll be like his 297 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.309 payo'll go from yeah, that makes sense. You know. Yeah, yeah, 298 00:21:06.789 --> 00:21:07.990 I mean that's a good question, though, like with the rockets, 299 00:21:08.029 --> 00:21:12.349 even be interested in a package without Simmons or in bead in it? To 300 00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:17.470 these are have enough other stuff like Matisse thyble would have to be in it. 301 00:21:18.230 --> 00:21:21.940 Yeah, exactly. You lit a lot of defense. They're they'd probably 302 00:21:21.940 --> 00:21:25.059 have to sell the farm in terms of pics, but it's hardened. Might 303 00:21:25.099 --> 00:21:27.299 be worth it for them. They could be really interesting if they land dame's 304 00:21:27.339 --> 00:21:30.779 harden. Yeah, I don't. I don't think the rockets have a lot 305 00:21:30.940 --> 00:21:33.970 to work, like leverage. Then I'm yeah, I don't have a lot. 306 00:21:33.049 --> 00:21:37.569 The burging with exactly there. The stars already want out and they don't 307 00:21:37.609 --> 00:21:40.529 have anything else. I mean he's still a top five player in the LEA. 308 00:21:40.609 --> 00:21:42.730 Yeah, they don't have to trade him. So I matic for that 309 00:21:44.250 --> 00:21:47.480 it's better. Like do you do you really want a super disappointed star? 310 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.359 And your team? They obviously yeah, who were one of B they're like 311 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:53.920 after that, you know. But from the sixers perspective, if you want 312 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.839 him, you're going to have to offer a lot more than Britlyn. Yeah, 313 00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:59.920 you know, because, like I said, I don't know about the 314 00:21:59.960 --> 00:22:03.230 market for Westbrook, but the market for James Harden feels pretty healthy. Yeah, 315 00:22:03.829 --> 00:22:07.109 you know, that is definitely up. Yeah, I mean, if 316 00:22:07.109 --> 00:22:10.710 you need a bucket, there's nobody better on the market right now than that. 317 00:22:10.829 --> 00:22:14.269 I mean assuming, you know, it's sounds like Anthony Davis is not 318 00:22:14.390 --> 00:22:18.779 going anywhere. So, yeah, he's a sign with him resigned with the 319 00:22:18.819 --> 00:22:22.140 Lakers, I mean that it's the number one bucket getter. So I mean 320 00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:26.019 that could put the sixers instantly into win down mode. I don't know. 321 00:22:27.460 --> 00:22:33.690 That's interesting, but can we
talk for just one second about when Russell Westbrook 322 00:22:33.769 --> 00:22:37.809 opted out? There was a statement made, and help me not to miss 323 00:22:37.809 --> 00:22:42.529 quote this, about how he didn't know that James Harden had the ball so 324 00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:51.759 much. It's pretty much it like how would you not know this man takes 325 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:56.559 the thousand ribles every game? I think all of us read that it just 326 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:02.390 laughed out loud. You're literally on the same team for for all of your 327 00:23:02.430 --> 00:23:06.069 rookie contracts, you were on the same team as James Harden. You do 328 00:23:06.230 --> 00:23:10.309 have eyeballs right. This is a known commodity in Houston before you ever got 329 00:23:10.390 --> 00:23:14.420 there, and you didn't know that James Harden likes to have the ball. 330 00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:19.579 We're you're not watching the past five years of the NBA like you miss him 331 00:23:19.660 --> 00:23:26.059 do this. Yeah, that's not going on the show hot ones and then 332 00:23:26.140 --> 00:23:29.529 expecting the wings to not be hot like you just do. What am I 333 00:23:29.569 --> 00:23:33.170 even doing at this point? It seems like he thought like, yeah, 334 00:23:33.289 --> 00:23:37.809 I'M gonna go to Houston, I'm probably gonna put up triple dub I'm my 335 00:23:37.849 --> 00:23:41.640 average trouble double for like the for stray season, like Jane gonna be okay, 336 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.079 Ay, will be driving the ball and doing my own thing, even 337 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.480 though I can't shoot. Don't worry about that. I can't shoo free like 338 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.079 I'm gonna have the ball in my hand. But then you come playoff time 339 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.359 when James is going I so he's like wait, I didn't know he's going 340 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.470 to dribble that much. It's like okay, well, have you been watching 341 00:23:57.509 --> 00:24:03.230 the NBA for the last eight years since he got right? Yeah, like, 342 00:24:03.349 --> 00:24:07.990 did you also think he was a lockdown defender? Oh yeah, like, 343 00:24:08.069 --> 00:24:11.619 what do you got? James Best to way player in the game? 344 00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:17.460 Hoping he was somehow misquoted, I really hope saw. He asked me. 345 00:24:17.700 --> 00:24:22.940 Really, that's right. Like how what? You've played against him at least 346 00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:26.089 what like twelve times in that span, probably more, way more. You 347 00:24:26.250 --> 00:24:30.329 Guard him? Yeah, one of the one top of the key, and 348 00:24:30.369 --> 00:24:33.569 it didn't surprise you that that ball went up and down a whole lot before 349 00:24:33.569 --> 00:24:41.359 he did anything. What I mean you watch film only to play on the 350 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.160 people you play against, and I'm pretty sure they showed a lot of James 351 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:48.440 Harden film on that, because he's basically the whole office I mean they're not. 352 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.950 This has to be the funniest thing that's come out of rain so far. 353 00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:59.430 My far breaking news. While West Brook didn't know that James Harden dribbles 354 00:24:59.509 --> 00:25:03.789 a lot. That has to be the funniest thing coming out of that. 355 00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:07.539 That is mind boggling. All right, so enough about Houston. HOUSTON'S A 356 00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:11.339 hot mess. It's just see what it comes out of that dumpster fire. 357 00:25:11.539 --> 00:25:15.220 If their starts get moved, when they get moved into who be really interesting 358 00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:22.089 to see. But well, I'm kind of want to know what you guys 359 00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:25.289 just take is on free agency over all of j what have you thought about 360 00:25:25.289 --> 00:25:30.250 free agency thus far? Just in general, I think it comes down to 361 00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:37.240 a point that you kind of made last week about superstars being entitled, and 362 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.440 what I've been saying is that NBA players have been devas kind of lately. 363 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:49.029 You see guys get unhappy with their situations and they request to trade or they 364 00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:52.670 sign the Max do to take the money, and then when it doesn't work 365 00:25:52.710 --> 00:25:56.750 out and they don't win, they want to leave and it's like, well, 366 00:25:57.150 --> 00:26:02.109 these owners are coming out their pockets and trying to capitulate to all these 367 00:26:02.230 --> 00:26:07.099 domains, but then when superstars don't deliver, they're like okay, like I 368 00:26:07.259 --> 00:26:10.940 want to go or I want to team up with my buddies. And over 369 00:26:11.059 --> 00:26:15.380 the years, like I'm remember in Carmelo signed a crazy do in New York 370 00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:21.849 and he actually could have been part of Miami's Big Three. He was supposed 371 00:26:21.849 --> 00:26:23.049 to be part of my Ami's big three, but he took the money, 372 00:26:23.609 --> 00:26:26.930 so they had to take Chris boss instead. But then New York didn't work 373 00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:30.329 out, so it was like melow kind of set himself up for failure. 374 00:26:30.450 --> 00:26:34.400 He could have chose a winning situation. And then with Westbrook right now, 375 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.759 every since he's not happy plan with his best friend, quote on quote, 376 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.440 that they grow up together, and now he wants to leave. So it's 377 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:47.670 like at what point do we just tell these in very players like, if 378 00:26:47.710 --> 00:26:51.630 you're making these choices throughout your career, you can't be upset when you can't 379 00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:53.150 deliver on
the court. And I just think that's what it's coming down to. 380 00:26:53.869 --> 00:26:59.390 And it just seems that right now they're getting passions for a lot of 381 00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:03.299 this, like if you can't get it done, you can't win, then 382 00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:07.220 okay, we'll trade you. You didn't but we paid you nearly, you 383 00:27:07.299 --> 00:27:10.420 know, seventy, six, eighty million dollars, but you didn't bring us 384 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.700 a championship. That's okay, like if you want to leave, I guess 385 00:27:12.740 --> 00:27:15.529 that's okay, like you're saying it now with James Harden, like he was 386 00:27:15.609 --> 00:27:21.049 giving pretty much everything he wanted, like he got a full ten piece wing 387 00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:26.569 Combo with a large sweet tea and he still wasn't happy. He got extra 388 00:27:26.650 --> 00:27:30.400 sauce, extra wet mile and he couldn't get it done. But he's like, 389 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.480 okay, I guess you know, I didn't get extra, I didn't 390 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.160 get eleven, like extra nugget in my tenpiece. I'm just head up out 391 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.680 the here. I think that's what we're saying, like entitlement and diva's right 392 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.160 now in free agency. You did making me hungry with all that talk. 393 00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:48.269 Yeah, man, need some ranch now. I am surprised with with Westbrook, 394 00:27:48.390 --> 00:27:52.230 the speed of it. It has barely been a year, one season, 395 00:27:52.309 --> 00:27:57.269 and you're right, he already wants out. He gave it one season 396 00:27:57.390 --> 00:28:03.500 and he's done. I do think that's a little bit interesting. Yeah, 397 00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:08.460 yeah, most definitely, like John Wall said, like everybody's going to be 398 00:28:08.539 --> 00:28:12.970 buddy buddy, and I don't. I don't get why all of a sudden 399 00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:18.009 like this happened, because I feel like it kind of takes away a little 400 00:28:18.009 --> 00:28:22.730 bit from the competitiveness of it all, you know, if everybody teams on 401 00:28:22.849 --> 00:28:27.720 with her friends, stuff like that. But regardless, I do understand why 402 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:33.119 some some players would want the trade. Like if I was Bradley Bill, 403 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.799 I would leave to you know, he repressive a trade about two weeks ago. 404 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:42.710 His his co star has been played a single minute in three years. 405 00:28:42.910 --> 00:28:49.589 So I mean some cases I get it, but it does come off a 406 00:28:49.670 --> 00:28:53.589 little bit entitled, that's for sure. It's surprising to me too, that 407 00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:59.900 it's Westbrook, because Westbrook was the one who gave Katie all the heat and 408 00:29:00.099 --> 00:29:03.380 when he went to the warriors, and deservably so. I hated that move 409 00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:07.420 more than any other move in NBA history. I hated to ran to the 410 00:29:07.500 --> 00:29:11.289 warriors. It's I think, you know, as Westbrook was the one holding 411 00:29:11.369 --> 00:29:15.250 the bag, he's allowed to be upset about that. This interesting to see 412 00:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.089 just a little bit down the road that Westbrook is doing. You know, 413 00:29:18.289 --> 00:29:21.690 is also disgruntled and he is on the move, you know, from one 414 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:23.720 season to the next, and he's trying to find his soft landing on a 415 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:27.359 winner. So I do think it's a little bit interesting that it is Westbrook 416 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.079 of all people, you know, who a few years ago was the pinnacle 417 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.480 of Loyalty. But I think I got to disagree with you, VJ, 418 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.670 and here's why. I think NBA players are in a different situation than any 419 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:47.869 other sport. In football it's the system, it's the coach right, that's 420 00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:49.630 the most important thing. Got Have Your quarterback. You got to have your 421 00:29:49.670 --> 00:29:56.779 quarterback. But I think no, even the quarterback, I don't think even 422 00:29:56.940 --> 00:30:00.220 one player is bigger than that the team. We've seen some bad quarterbacks. 423 00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:03.019 When the Super Bowl, you know behind some good role players and a good 424 00:30:03.019 --> 00:30:08.210 defense. The basketball is different. Basketball it's just the players that hold the 425 00:30:08.289 --> 00:30:14.769 power, and I think you know behind. I think Lebron was really the 426 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:17.329 first one to kind of wake up to this and be like, wait, 427 00:30:17.809 --> 00:30:21.839 I hold all the cards. The calvs can't do anything if I just walk 428 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.079 away, like the fans might be a little unhappy and that might burn my 429 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:26.839 jersey, but I hold all the power and I'm going to wield it. 430 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:32.920 And now you see all these other superstars kind of wake up to that and 431 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.990 it's not like ownership is stupor loyal to them. You know, they'll be 432 00:30:37.109 --> 00:30:41.029 traded at the drop of a hat if they struggle a little bit. You 433 00:30:41.109 --> 00:30:44.349 know, if they get her they can get moved or cut if you're not 434 00:30:44.470 --> 00:30:48.109 that great. You know, it's not like the NBA is this super, 435 00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:52.059 you know, buddy buddy warm relationship between the owners and the players, and 436 00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:56.660 these stars are just ruining it. The stars are just the first ones to 437 00:30:56.700 --> 00:30:59.900 figure out that. You know, there's a few of us who really wield 438
00:30:59.980 --> 00:31:03.420 the power here and we should use it to get the things that we want. 439 00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:06.369 I don't think it's unreasonable to want contracts, to want to make some 440 00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:08.089 money, to want to play with guys you want to play with. I 441 00:31:08.289 --> 00:31:11.049 don't know, like I think if they have the power and they wield it, 442 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:15.289 that doesn't necessarily make them be this. I get that argument, but 443 00:31:17.049 --> 00:31:22.319 it's like if you're going to work and you signed a contract, yet let's 444 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:27.400 say is one day you you just don't want to come in. There's one 445 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.440 day you're like, all right, you know what, I went to the 446 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.069 bar last night. It was thirty Thursday. I was at red white blue 447 00:31:33.150 --> 00:31:37.470 and I had a discount I'm hungover, I'm not going any here and you 448 00:31:37.549 --> 00:31:40.470 get reprimanded. We were like wait, what that white? Why should that 449 00:31:40.589 --> 00:31:44.589 happen to me? Like you know, I'm the work or like doesn't all 450 00:31:44.829 --> 00:31:48.740 do I have any saying this? It's kind of like superstars feel like they 451 00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:53.299 can kind of mess up a little bit and then it doesn't matter. Because 452 00:31:53.299 --> 00:31:59.220 if you look at Westbrook, I don't think he's been to the conference finals 453 00:31:59.819 --> 00:32:02.690 since Katie left. And if you look at performer like you look at any 454 00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:07.970 other job, performancy, valuation, like I think results kind of matter. 455 00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:10.529 And if you're a Westbrook, I could see if the rocks are just come 456 00:32:10.609 --> 00:32:15.799 off a long playoff run and it just didn't work out. This is losing 457 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.000 five games to the Lakers. Not Get the Lakers were a champion, but 458 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:24.640 I think you have to have a little bit of results to drive your request. 459 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:28.240 Like if you come to the owner and so, okay, I'm not 460 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.710 happy here after one season in the middle of a pandemic, to like are 461 00:32:31.750 --> 00:32:37.150 you sure that that in factor in rush at coronavirus himself and he was unhealthy? 462 00:32:37.349 --> 00:32:38.990 To so it's like, are you sure you want to leave after just 463 00:32:39.150 --> 00:32:44.230 one season? That had a lot of independent variables and the owners like well, 464 00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:46.740 you know, and the owner telling for to to he really was the 465 00:32:46.779 --> 00:32:52.059 one that pushed for the Westbrook trade. DRYL Morian even really want Westbrook just 466 00:32:52.099 --> 00:32:55.859 because analytics and numbers. But rockets owner said Yeah, like if James Likes 467 00:32:55.940 --> 00:33:00.369 them, and this guy's like in the middle of his prime, I'll take 468 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:02.569 all that contract and Russe is like yeah, no, that's not going to 469 00:33:02.650 --> 00:33:07.490 work for me. I just think that comes off as a little bit of 470 00:33:07.049 --> 00:33:12.210 the EVA move. It's okay, that one demand you didn't meet. I'm 471 00:33:12.250 --> 00:33:15.400 high telling it, and it would be if this was free agency, I 472 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.880 would have no problem with that. If it was really, there's already. 473 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.200 Yeah, if it was free agency, I have no problem. I think 474 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.960 really the difference between requests and Trades and free agency, because it free agency, 475 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.390 you have an optionally requested to trade, I agree to give it. 476 00:33:30.269 --> 00:33:32.190 I agree with that, to be honest, because you said you signed the 477 00:33:32.230 --> 00:33:36.869 contract. You know you were going into like yeah, not, hopefully, 478 00:33:36.869 --> 00:33:38.309 because you're unhappy. Now you're going to be like a good and I'm gonna 479 00:33:38.349 --> 00:33:43.099 leave, like okay, yeah, the excitement. It was an obligation, 480 00:33:43.220 --> 00:33:46.299 you know, I'm saying, but I mean this, that Peo won't honor 481 00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:52.140 that obligation. If you're struggling, they'll chip you off for like cash considerations. 482 00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:54.700 You know, it's not like the you know, if you're not one 483 00:33:54.730 --> 00:33:58.369 of the very best, the team has no loyalty to you. They're going 484 00:33:58.410 --> 00:34:01.170 to do whatever increases wins. But they're paying you like the very best, 485 00:34:01.250 --> 00:34:06.569 though. These are two guys their pain like they're the sure that one like 486 00:34:07.009 --> 00:34:09.320 the what you call when they stop performing. You know. But but let 487 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:13.800 me use your team, dion, as an example. Let's say in three 488 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.000 years, Luke at once out of Dallas. Yeah, okay, which is 489 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.719 going to happen. You're going to be really sad. He's low. Let's 490 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.119 but let's say look at once out of Dallas. Would you rather have him 491 00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:28.630 wait until free agency and just be like, you know, I thought about 492 00:34:28.630 --> 00:34:30.789 it, but I'm out. I'm going to the Lakers. It's what everybody 493 00:34:30.829 --> 00:34:36.070 does, right or the year before that? Would you rather have him say 494 00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:38.380 look, so the team can get something back, I want to trade. 495 00:34:38.980 --> 00:34:43.219 I'M gonna need to say it is the same. It's not the same, 496 00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:47.699 because it is. Would you rather get that? We found onto
the mavericks 497 00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:52.059 for him demanding a trade, or would you rather just have them leaving free 498 00:34:52.059 --> 00:34:54.050 agency? No, but if it's like I'm mutual agreement is fine, but 499 00:34:54.170 --> 00:34:58.929 like these players, like harden and Russell West, they're just like is like, 500 00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:01.130 oh, I don't like to hear so now, yeah, the argument. 501 00:35:01.329 --> 00:35:05.449 Now that benefits the team instead of a player. I would say, 502 00:35:06.769 --> 00:35:08.679 okay, I thought you said it was all about the player, but now 503 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.679 you're saying that the player should the players will be that power. But I 504 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.119 think it's demanding a trade is so much more civil than just politely leaving in 505 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.480 Free Agency. Like look at open one saw a relieve it. They were 506 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.869 left. Katie left them holding the bag when he just left him free agency. 507 00:35:24.110 --> 00:35:28.630 They're hoping to resign him. Katie walked. They had nothing to show 508 00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:35.469 for it. Off when to rent, when Westbrook wanted out, they got 509 00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:40.139 a bunch of picks from the rockets and they got some at sets. They're 510 00:35:40.219 --> 00:35:45.780 still water opportunity westbrook wanting to trade than Katie walking. I requesting the trade 511 00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:52.010 is a bad thing. I'm just seeing that the circumstances matter and Hustlell Westbrook 512 00:35:52.010 --> 00:35:55.849 has no reason to leave. Had like he has no reason to leave right 513 00:35:55.849 --> 00:35:59.570 now. That James Wants to lead to I don't know, like well, 514 00:35:59.650 --> 00:36:02.730 Westbrook wanted and why does Jay Wonk? Why does James Won't leave? Well, 515 00:36:02.889 --> 00:36:06.519 James Harden wants to leave kids. Westbrook wants to leave now and there's 516 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.159 nobody else there. And so I don't have a problem with Westbrook. After 517 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:15.960 the Steven Silas Higher Mike Dantoni's gone him reading the tea leaves and say this 518 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.030 is going the wrong direction. I'm in the twilight of my career. I 519 00:36:19.309 --> 00:36:23.269 want out now. Who knows where he actually lands, but so I don't 520 00:36:23.269 --> 00:36:27.789 have a problem with it. It's like he's expecting ownership, though it's a 521 00:36:27.869 --> 00:36:30.110 wave of a magic wand could because, like you said, it's not like 522 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:34.019 the market is that great for him. So it's like are they supposed to 523 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:37.619 pull a rabbit out of a hat and counter find a great destin nations for 524 00:36:37.739 --> 00:36:40.659 Westbury, even if he's like not really his prime all that much and he's 525 00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:45.659 not really the same player he was, like okay, well, we can't 526 00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:49.409 send you to a contender to take on thirty eight plus million a year. 527 00:36:49.530 --> 00:36:52.650 Would like forty three million in two years. Like I if he made the 528 00:36:52.769 --> 00:36:58.250 tray request under I guess, better circumstances it would be I would say, 529 00:36:58.250 --> 00:37:00.880 okay, that's fine, but you're asking them what this with the season starting 530 00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:06.239 the twenty two and then everything kind of will trying to capture the first it's 531 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.440 like, okay, I guess we have two and a half weeks to find 532 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.960 Westbrook a team and get fair value back. Well, how is it? 533 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.550 It's not like it was the middle of this season. It was like four 534 00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:21.469 days before trades could even be official. Like, how much more notice do 535 00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:24.150 you really need? It's like we're they supposed to go or they played the 536 00:37:24.190 --> 00:37:29.469 leg. I mean I'm with getting another the notice looks like the offseason is 537 00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:32.460 like two weeks, basically, like a month after and any air. You 538 00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:36.900 should give them a little bit of time, you know, not like the 539 00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:40.219 analogy I would use is with dating. Would you rather have a girl leave 540 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.900 you on, make you think you really have a shot and then boom, 541 00:37:43.940 --> 00:37:45.650 out of the blue, cut you loose, or would you rather just have 542 00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:49.329 her be straight up from the start of what her intentions are, even if 543 00:37:49.369 --> 00:37:52.849 it hurts a little bit, and then just tell you I don't think this 544 00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:54.730 is going anywhere? Versus being let on that. That, to me, 545 00:37:54.889 --> 00:37:59.679 is the difference between leaving in Free Agency and requesting a trade. But how 546 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.320 is urt when your star requests a trade but it's a blessing disguise because you 547 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.679 get assets for it, versus being led on that you have a chance to 548 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.519 resign them and then they go somewhere else and you get nothing. I don't 549 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:15.389 think it's leading on, though, because what you know you expect when the 550 00:38:15.429 --> 00:38:19.349 contract ends. Like you can be prepared for that and as a team you 551 00:38:19.469 --> 00:38:22.349 can decide if you want to trade them first or not. Well, also 552 00:38:22.389 --> 00:38:24.150 don't think this is limited to the NBA. I think if you have the 553 00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:30.340 top lawyers, the top bankers, the top what entrepreneur or wherever, they 554 00:38:30.420 --> 00:38:34.699
have their choice of where they can go. They're constantly being headhunted all the 555 00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:37.500 time by different companies. You know they don't have to stay where they don't 556 00:38:37.539 --> 00:38:40.730 want to be. You know, I don't think this is limited to the 557 00:38:40.809 --> 00:38:45.090 NBA. I think that's kind of how it is in life. But I 558 00:38:45.170 --> 00:38:49.170 think athletes are just held to a different standard and a different level of loyalty 559 00:38:49.289 --> 00:38:52.130 is expected when, in reality, if you just signed a contract with a 560 00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:55.920 company but a company, a different company comes in off pursue a better contract. 561 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.559 You would take that in heartbeat, but I think we as a society 562 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:06.199 expect a higher level of loyalty from athletes for some reason. Well, to 563 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.639 that point I would say there, I think, tons of people applying to 564 00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:14.590 different jobs every day. But I don't know if you got six three guards 565 00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:17.309 with forty five in verticals and you know, averageuble. Those were saying, 566 00:39:17.349 --> 00:39:20.710 all right, if he leaves, you know, can I get the interview 567 00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:23.820 next, like I really how's he does make sense, but I'm like, 568 00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:28.820 if you compared it, okay, you have the regular joe coming in for 569 00:39:28.980 --> 00:39:31.940 interview, suitent ties, like okay, can I find another Westbrook walking around 570 00:39:31.940 --> 00:39:36.420 here? I'll see these guys instagram with the videos where they put all the 571 00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:38.010 highlights. They don't miss a shot because it's edited. Will those okay, 572 00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:42.570 where can I really find the next big thing? I don't think you're going 573 00:39:42.570 --> 00:39:45.769 to find a Westberg just walking in the door every time. So it's kind 574 00:39:45.809 --> 00:39:51.449 of different when you like request the trade with that level of star versus somebody 575 00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:53.920 trying to join like a new company or get like a new contract in a 576 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.079 business setting. Enough, but but I also think that's, you know, 577 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.079 just the top one percent of the NBA. You know, the vast majority 578 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.599 of players are just trying to make a roster, trying to you know, 579 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.869 you free agencies musical cherish for them and they just hope their bone rings. 580 00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:13.110 You know, they're just hoping to get a contract anywhere. They're praying for 581 00:40:13.150 --> 00:40:15.309 a one year deal, at two year deal. You know, they're just 582 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:20.230 trying to land somewhere. And so I think the one
percent of just, 583 00:40:20.429 --> 00:40:22.539 you know, the top one percent of almost any industry can, you know, 584 00:40:22.659 --> 00:40:27.940 has their pick and can do what they want and everybody wants them versus 585 00:40:28.300 --> 00:40:31.260 the rest. And so harden and Westbrook are part of that one percent and 586 00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:36.170 you know, I don't necessarily have a problem with them wilding their power. 587 00:40:36.250 --> 00:40:39.409 I don't think it's overly disrespectful. I think in a way Houston and them 588 00:40:39.409 --> 00:40:44.690 are on the same page. They hired a brand new rookie coach, they 589 00:40:44.769 --> 00:40:49.690 fired the popular wind now coach, and so I think they're in rebuilding mode 590 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.920 and I think hard and Westbrook are reading the reading the tea leaves, and 591 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.960 I don't have a problem with them one and out. But all right, 592 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.760 let's move on because we actually have some free and some other free agency move. 593 00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.750 Somehow it always comes back to Houston. Houston is way too spicy. 594 00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:09.429 But we got to talk about cpthree to the sun's. So cpthree moved to 595 00:41:09.469 --> 00:41:15.949 the sun's in exchange for Rubio, Kelly UBREY and first round pick correct or 596 00:41:16.070 --> 00:41:21.179 from big ties Rome and doing the key, the key. I don't know 597 00:41:21.219 --> 00:41:28.219 how his pressingly but I hadn't heard of the yeah, great. Think the 598 00:41:28.219 --> 00:41:32.010 question now is are the sons are contender now with cpthree? Can he do 599 00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:36.289 the same thing and that he didn't know KC and turn them into an instant 600 00:41:36.329 --> 00:41:40.010 contender? I don't know about instinct. They contender, contender. I see 601 00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:47.840 them definitely the playoffs between the four and the third spot because if you look 602 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.719 at the team as a whole, two sons could be the third seed in 603 00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.960 the West. They have CPTHREE, they have devin booker and everybody forgets about 604 00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:02.150 this man because he's so quiet, but deandre Heyton is a walking double bubble 605 00:42:02.429 --> 00:42:07.429 and pair OFM UB with cbthree devastating. But you think they could be third 606 00:42:07.550 --> 00:42:10.630 in the West, sir, see third or four? Wow, who you 607 00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:16.340 taken out at a top four? I got Lakers, Denver Clippers and the 608 00:42:16.420 --> 00:42:20.059 start. He said sounds could be the third seat. I said third or 609 00:42:20.099 --> 00:42:22.139 four. It is. It's so. If there's the third seed, who 610 00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:28.739 they better than? They would beat dever? Okay, I don't know about 611 00:42:28.739 --> 00:42:30.610 the third seed. I
think I am buying them as a contender, though. 612 00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:35.929 I think cpthree is exactly what the doctor ordered, of some old school 613 00:42:36.010 --> 00:42:40.210 kind of edginess that a young team needs. Devin booker is more enabled now 614 00:42:40.329 --> 00:42:43.929 than ever that he doesn't have to create his own shot and you know, 615 00:42:44.090 --> 00:42:45.920 aiden can actually get the ball where he wants it. Yeah, I think 616 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.519 that's exactly what they need. I don't know, they're still pretty young. 617 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.239 There's a true, very young team. This true, but so was. 618 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:58.630 Okay, see last year and cpthree work miracles with those guys. They were 619 00:42:58.789 --> 00:43:04.869 even worse than this. I don't about third seed, but they I am 620 00:43:04.949 --> 00:43:07.190 buying them as a contender. Hm, I mean that's a third and fourth 621 00:43:07.510 --> 00:43:10.510 could be fifth, because that is if that was make the right move this 622 00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:15.460 offseason. They can be very dangerous. J behind the suns or now. 623 00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:21.539 I kind of am not. ADONDA's kind of talking me into buying some stock 624 00:43:21.619 --> 00:43:27.099 right now, because CPTHREE. He did. He was with money Williams way 625 00:43:27.250 --> 00:43:30.050 back in New Orleans days, like when he was younger, and I think 626 00:43:30.170 --> 00:43:34.130 that that worked out a little bit. I'm not sure the relationship they have 627 00:43:34.889 --> 00:43:38.730 as a player coach, but I can easily see devin booker leading the League 628 00:43:38.769 --> 00:43:43.039 and scoring next year, just because I think cbthree year is going to open 629 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.599 up so many doors for him and he does play really well as a catching 630 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.800 shoe player to we can also create. So I think cpthree my unlock a 631 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.550 little bit for him. And if I'm not mistaken, I want to say 632 00:43:55.829 --> 00:44:02.110 Houston finished as the fourth seed, so phoenix potentially could. That might be 633 00:44:02.230 --> 00:44:06.909 the team they bump out. Is the Euston rockets and I could see him 634 00:44:06.909 --> 00:44:09.619 taking that next step. I think the biggest piece of that trade was Kelly 635 00:44:09.699 --> 00:44:15.260 Oubrey. I think if he wasn't involved, I don't think okay see was 636 00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:17.940 making the deal. They weren't getting Kelly Oubrey, who is a very underrated 637 00:44:17.980 --> 00:44:22.139 player. But I think the suns is especially they're trending in the right direction 638 00:44:22.820 --> 00:44:27.050 and, like Dean said, deandre a like as a big man. I 639 00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:31.849 feel like cpthree could also really take his game to the next level to and 640 00:44:31.929 --> 00:44:36.530 I just think they they're putting it, they're putting all together around Devin booker 641 00:44:36.610 --> 00:44:39.440 finally, and then they're training in the right direction. So I could easily 642 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:45.079 see them making that next big jump. I think between them and between them 643 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.239 and New Orleans. I want to see who can really make noise in the 644 00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.070 West first. Like I think it'll be between those those young teams, and 645 00:44:53.190 --> 00:44:58.590 Dallas for that matter. Yeah, yeah, I the price is steep. 646 00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:02.550 Giving up Kelly, you bray and a first rounder is is yeah, yeah, 647 00:45:02.630 --> 00:45:07.110 but yeah, I think if they don't do that, we're talking about 648 00:45:07.179 --> 00:45:09.579 Demon Booker next year. One the trade like they got to do something to 649 00:45:09.619 --> 00:45:14.179 try and contend and cpthree it feels like a really good fit. So I 650 00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:16.260 think they got to do something or else de haven't bookers going to be the 651 00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:20.619 next free agent? We're talking about it once out and totally. They can 652 00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:22.769 afford to loose him, or else they're back at square one. Square one. 653 00:45:23.210 --> 00:45:27.809 I think they got the longest playoff drought in history. Are Not history, 654 00:45:27.929 --> 00:45:31.130 but in the last decade, like they haven't made it since two thousand 655 00:45:31.170 --> 00:45:35.570 and two. So, but besides Sacramento, they got the longest drought I 656 00:45:35.690 --> 00:45:37.679 think. Yeah, I mean I'm really excited. Is Like you look at 657 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:44.840 the started five with Chris Paul, Devin Booker, probably Michael Bridges. Then 658 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:49.679 you have Dargo Saris and Deandre Hayton. That's solid. That's a solid line 659 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.070 of in my going. You know, and that you get some shooters around 660 00:45:53.110 --> 00:45:58.670 this and proffered still there, Jamal? Yeah, he's not. I think 661 00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:04.030 he's a would be zone Brooklyn's man. Yeah, I can't. Okay, 662 00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:07.659 but right. So I I think I'm buying the sun's but I don't think 663 00:46:07.699 --> 00:46:10.619 they'll have home court advantage. I think they will make the playoffs, though 664 00:46:10.659 --> 00:46:15.780 I don't think they're haven't home court advantage anytime soon. All right. Second 665 00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:19.889 deal, it's been official so far, is Schroeder to the Lakers. Well, 666 00:46:19.969 --> 00:46:22.130 that's official. I don't even know. Yeah, I pretty sure. 667 00:46:22.769 --> 00:46:25.769 I don't know if it's official official, but it's been. It sounds like 668 00:46:25.849 --> 00:46:28.849 a done deal. It's hut. It's a hot deal. Right. So, 669 00:46:29.010 --> 00:46:32.480
shrodder to the Lakers for Danny Green. Yea. And what else did 670 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.599 they give them? First Round Pick? They're twenty eight pick only this Wednesday. 671 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.400 Yeah, they got the twenty pick. Okay, so what do we 672 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.909 think of Schroeder to the Lakers, I think is the perfect deal for both 673 00:46:46.989 --> 00:46:54.349 teams. And okay, see, already has a whole Lethera of picks and 674 00:46:54.469 --> 00:47:00.789 they add another one, which will go perfect for the rebuilding. And strader 675 00:47:00.309 --> 00:47:05.539 is the ball handler and can cuyo you his own shot, which is perfect 676 00:47:05.940 --> 00:47:08.619 for the La Lakers. That are going to lose Danny Green, they're going 677 00:47:08.659 --> 00:47:14.579 to lose probably Rondo and that are going to lose every Bradley, so that's 678 00:47:14.780 --> 00:47:17.809 three guards that they're going to miss. So this is the firstest first piece 679 00:47:19.369 --> 00:47:23.449 to start complimenting Lebron in a D I I'm kind of underwhelmed, to be 680 00:47:23.449 --> 00:47:29.409 honest. Like at Schroder's not a bad player, but I think Danny Green's 681 00:47:29.409 --> 00:47:30.960 also a pretty good player. So I'd put them a pretty much on the 682 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.559 same level. So they did have a swap. Yeah, okay, Danny 683 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.199 Greens, but I was sure as a better defender. But I think I'd 684 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:44.949 put them pretty close to the same level. I mean straiter was like kind 685 00:47:44.949 --> 00:47:46.710 of putting the back burning. Okay, see, but if you remember his 686 00:47:46.789 --> 00:47:50.829 days in Atlanta, he was pretty solid. You know. Oh, I 687 00:47:50.909 --> 00:47:53.630 supposed to be blown away from Danish Schroder putting up some points on a horse. 688 00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:59.420 I'm just saying he's better than Danny Green right now. Danny literally only 689 00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:02.179 shoots, and he does that maybe slight edged the Roder, but I don't 690 00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:07.139 use that much better. I think he's way better than Danny Green. Danny 691 00:48:07.219 --> 00:48:10.860 Green barely even shot the ball well in the playoffs. So I mean Danny 692 00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:15.170 Green ready played break agent. I don't think it's bad move for the leg 693 00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:19.769 years to sure, sure up that front backward. I mean so, I 694 00:48:19.889 --> 00:48:22.289 mean I think there's some scorn. Yeah, I think it's a great like. 695 00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:27.159 Yeah, not not a bad move. All right, let's play GM 696 00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.599 for a SEC. Let's let's talk about some trades that we would make if 697 00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:36.880 we're an NBA franchise. Okay, I'll go ahead and start because I got 698 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.559 something I got to get off my chest as a celtics fan. This is 699 00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.590 the time, Danny Age. We have got to make a move. Okay, 700 00:48:44.349 --> 00:48:47.070 we got to do something. I'm sick and tired of every midseason the 701 00:48:47.150 --> 00:48:51.510 Celtics being the rumored oh they're going to make a deal. They've been rumored 702 00:48:51.550 --> 00:48:54.780 for every superstar that's been available for four years and haven't pulled the trigger on 703 00:48:54.940 --> 00:49:00.059 anybody. We gotta make a move if we're going to be competitive. Right. 704 00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:02.860 We have four different wings. We gotta get it big, and so 705 00:49:04.099 --> 00:49:07.820 my dream trade that I don't think is that outlandish. Okay, here's what 706 00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:14.449 I'm here's what I'm cooking up. I'm trading Heyward Gordon Hayward. You can't, 707 00:49:14.769 --> 00:49:20.170 you can. He's a Sumi. Okay, assume he exercises his player 708 00:49:20.289 --> 00:49:23.840 option, which I'm pretty sure he's going to, because he's making banks, 709 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:29.800 right and so, and that's good for the team to for trying to move 710 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.559 them. So I think there's a lot of incentive for him to take his 711 00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.440 player option. So, so many takes the player option. I am doing 712 00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.710 a sign in trade with the calves. Given them Hayward in the fourteen pick 713 00:49:42.190 --> 00:49:45.630 for Andre Drummond on a sign and trade. Oh Shit, that's what I'm 714 00:49:45.630 --> 00:49:51.949 doing. Okay, Andre around like the exactly what the Celtics need. He's 715 00:49:52.110 --> 00:49:57.699 big, he rebounds, he guards the Rim, he finishes. And now, 716 00:49:57.900 --> 00:50:00.860 I don't know if the calves would be super interested in that, but 717 00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:04.139 they should be interest in the fourteen pick and drum is going to be a 718 00:50:04.219 --> 00:50:07.489 free agent. Anyway. So to me it makes total sense. I can 719 00:50:07.690 --> 00:50:14.210 see that. But I would think that Cleveland will give up either Kevin love 720 00:50:14.289 --> 00:50:17.530 or Christan Thompson before they give up under drum. I will think they would 721 00:50:17.570 --> 00:50:22.599 resign them, even though he has the playoffs. But I like that trade. 722 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:28.239 If it actually goes like, if it goes down like Boston is looking 723 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.519 pretty dangerous and I hate seeing it because I don't really like Boston. But 724 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:38.550 that's okay. Well, you think we I also agree at the Celtics need 725 00:50:38.670 --> 00:50:44.110 a trade for big man. I had two different names in mine. I 726 00:50:44.309 --> 00:50:50.699 had a possible tray for Nicola Vosovitch. I think Boston. He would fit 727 00:50:50.820 --> 00:50:53.820 there just because he could stretch the
for as a big and he can kind 728 00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:58.019 of go inside and play with his back to the basket. And for Boston 729 00:50:58.059 --> 00:51:00.739 I think a big who can step inside and that would kind of keeping a 730 00:51:00.820 --> 00:51:05.210 line with their system, which just had a lot of spacing on the court. 731 00:51:05.809 --> 00:51:08.969 And then I thought also to if it didn't work out with Russovitch, 732 00:51:09.090 --> 00:51:14.650 why not Miles Turner? He's a shot blocker and he also spaces the floor, 733 00:51:14.730 --> 00:51:16.570 and for me I think the team was like big man space the floor 734 00:51:17.050 --> 00:51:21.360 for boss. They could just do like a lot for them and luck again, 735 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.519 he's a defender, so he will kind of help them on both sides. 736 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.360 I could see the drumming though. That would do wonders for them, 737 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.559 just because, you know, pick and roll with tatum or pick and roll 738 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:37.349 with Kimba and drumming with either of them, I feel like one they could 739 00:51:37.349 --> 00:51:39.670 either, you know, go around at the mid range, step back into 740 00:51:39.789 --> 00:51:44.190 three, or just a lot at the grumming and nine times out of team, 741 00:51:44.349 --> 00:51:47.019 like he's gonna Finish at the rim. But I think it would be 742 00:51:47.659 --> 00:51:54.380 if only you right. If addressing apple second of Boston. They need that 743 00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:58.539 for sure. If they can make that happen, though, and you can 744 00:51:58.579 --> 00:52:01.570 unload hayward for a Drummond, I think, I want to say Drummond, 745 00:52:01.650 --> 00:52:07.769 maybe younger or about the same age, but he doesn't have the injury history 746 00:52:07.969 --> 00:52:12.809 that Gordon has, so you would be in a win win, I guess, 747 00:52:13.250 --> 00:52:15.719 for Boston, because you're getting younger then you're getting a shot blocker to 748 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.239 well, I mean we got to give up fourteen and my mind, but 749 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.039 I think if leads he's probably going to lose drummond anyway. I can get 750 00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:28.920 fourteen and like hey, whar, it's not bad. You know's and you 751 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:30.309 know, with a change of scenery he could be really good. And so 752 00:52:30.469 --> 00:52:34.989 to me I'd feel like Cleveland's could go for that. That's I mean, 753 00:52:35.030 --> 00:52:37.469 that's that's my dream train. Maybe unrealistic, but let me dream for a 754 00:52:37.550 --> 00:52:43.590 moment. But I'll tell you my dream trade real quick, and it involves 755 00:52:43.630 --> 00:52:49.260 a certain guy by the name of victor all the boat and his move to 756 00:52:49.900 --> 00:52:55.139 Dallas m because Tim Hardaway can go f off, because I hate them. 757 00:52:57.019 --> 00:53:00.210 Well,
tell us that you really feel it. You know, they have 758 00:53:00.329 --> 00:53:05.570 similar contracts. I think a straight up trade ALADIPO for Hardaway, you know, 759 00:53:05.969 --> 00:53:09.010 would work. And all DEEPO is the scored the secondary scoring option for 760 00:53:09.369 --> 00:53:15.159 would be the second secondary scoring option for Dallas and I don't see why he 761 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.280 wouldn't want to go there. Plus he's looking to leave Indiana or ready so. 762 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.599 But after they trade it for portzling gus the do the mavericks have the 763 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:28.949 assets to pull that off? I mean they only they get what you call 764 00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:32.269 it. Their context is just straight up. So financially they would be fine. 765 00:53:32.829 --> 00:53:37.389 I think they can do it, you know, because christaps has been 766 00:53:37.469 --> 00:53:42.380 very inconsistent. So from the point of view of the game it would fit 767 00:53:42.739 --> 00:53:46.420 perfectly and financially too. So I don't I don't see why not. That's 768 00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:52.260 my trade. My dream trader is kind of out there, but I'm just 769 00:53:52.300 --> 00:53:59.010 gonna go with it. Um. I think that the warriors should really look 770 00:53:59.010 --> 00:54:05.889 at this, trading wiggins and the number to pick for Ben Simmons. I 771 00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:10.800 think Ben Simmons to the warriors would be like video game. It's like when 772 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:15.480 you do play my team on to k you get that painting diamond. Steph 773 00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.679 curry like just automatic. I think that that really would take his game to 774 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:23.869 a new level because you're talking about a six nine ball handler and a perfect 775 00:54:23.909 --> 00:54:29.429 small ball player too, because he's an elite wing defender and he's about six 776 00:54:29.630 --> 00:54:34.150 nine, sixteen like he would help him eventually. And then you give wiggins 777 00:54:34.190 --> 00:54:37.469 in the second pick to Philly and you get Simmons. You talking about him 778 00:54:37.469 --> 00:54:39.980 bringing a ball up to because he can dribble. You're talking about taking pressure 779 00:54:39.980 --> 00:54:45.179 off curry, putting clay at the three and then having two elite wing defenders 780 00:54:45.219 --> 00:54:49.659 and clay and been Simmons. I think it. That would be a win 781 00:54:49.780 --> 00:54:54.010 win for both teams just because then Philly could also flip that second pick if 782 00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:57.530 they don't, if they don't like it, they also flip it. But 783 00:54:57.570 --> 00:55:01.289 I think dream scenario, Ben Simmons would golden state will work. And then, 784 00:55:01.409 --> 00:55:06.010 lastly, to top that off, as you can, try to sign 785 00:55:06.530 --> 00:55:13.119 Ebacha to the warriors. I think that that would be that would there you 786 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.199 go. Okay, you have me now, because I think Golden State has 787 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.320 to get a big. I think they got to get a big. But 788 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.230 yeah, I think, well there, this is the free agency for big. 789 00:55:22.309 --> 00:55:25.829 So, if not Ibaka, also have Christan Tompson and the back burner. 790 00:55:27.269 --> 00:55:30.630 Like I think Golden State literally has aces up their sleeves and that they're 791 00:55:30.710 --> 00:55:35.940 really playing coy. I think they're really playing coy. But then Ben Simmons 792 00:55:36.059 --> 00:55:39.980 to Golden State, Oh my goodness be visions are like, I don't be. 793 00:55:40.139 --> 00:55:45.380 That is the don't even think of that. Like this make case thinking 794 00:55:45.420 --> 00:55:49.539 getting his life. That would be her, because he now he doesn't have 795 00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:52.849 to shoot. We rightly shoot. Not as long as they can get a 796 00:55:52.929 --> 00:55:55.929 big. I'm totally with it, you think. Let me put it this 797 00:55:57.090 --> 00:55:59.730 way, though. I don't think Golden State, same as Boston, can 798 00:55:59.809 --> 00:56:02.809 emerge from free agency without a big but if they can do both, I 799 00:56:02.969 --> 00:56:09.440 love it. Home. God, even that's getting small, I swear. 800 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:13.199 How do you? You said that. I was like, oh my goodness, 801 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.239 that makes perfects like it, but they definitely do need a big too. 802 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:21.510 That's a spicy trade, VJ. Spicy. I like it. Okay. 803 00:56:21.949 --> 00:56:25.269 How's this for Spicy Trade? I'm if I'm if I'm the GM of 804 00:56:25.309 --> 00:56:30.750 the timberwolves, I'm trying to get hardened. How about this for a train? 805 00:56:31.309 --> 00:56:37.860 The number one pick, me and Jarrek culver for hardened. Oh so 806 00:56:38.059 --> 00:56:43.420 what you got in Minnesota is you got the Angelo Russell, James Harden and 807 00:56:43.460 --> 00:56:47.090 Karl Anthony towns. Tell me that team can't make the playoffs. They don't 808 00:56:47.289 --> 00:56:52.889 need the number one pick necessarily them in shopping for it. Jared over, 809 00:56:52.090 --> 00:56:57.250 decent young player, but not a win now kind of player, and then 810 00:56:57.329 --> 00:57:00.889 you probably throw in a protected first round pick or something like that. You 811 00:57:00.969 --> 00:57:05.679 get James Harden and that turns them into an instant contender. Imagine James Harden, 812 00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:08.840 dribble penetration, throwing it up to Karl Anthony Towns Thirty Times a game. 813 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:14.199 Oh my goodness, I can see that. Oh my goodness, especially 814 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.110 because now you see is going to rebuilding and they get the normal pick this 815 00:57:17.269 --> 00:57:28.230 year. Boy,
very obviously the biggest hurdle is getting James hardened by it. 816 00:57:28.349 --> 00:57:31.860 Is that and up to the trade. We're playing fantasy gun. So 817 00:57:32.019 --> 00:57:35.699 that's fine. We don't bobby. I feel like he should sign off on 818 00:57:35.820 --> 00:57:38.019 that. I mean, if your first choice, you know, if the 819 00:57:38.260 --> 00:57:43.380 if the rockets aren't gonna do it. T wolves feel like a pretty good 820 00:57:43.420 --> 00:57:46.530 fit. Same as Philly. I've still look at that. Really got to 821 00:57:46.570 --> 00:57:50.809 be nice. Yeah, I like that better than Philly actually. Yeah, 822 00:57:50.889 --> 00:57:54.530 t holds that Colearison cap space, but you know, that shouldn't be too 823 00:57:54.610 --> 00:58:00.119 hard. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like nobody's talking about that 824 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:01.840 and I feel like they should be. That feels like a good trade to 825 00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:07.360 me. Don't be a good fit? Yeah, and I feel like Minnesota 826 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.519 probably has more to offer than probably anybody. Yeah, they have a lot 827 00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:14.670 of assets to make that happen, and that's what I'm trying to say. 828 00:58:15.510 --> 00:58:19.829 That's what I'm doing. I like that car. How about this D if 829 00:58:19.909 --> 00:58:22.429 you if Minnesota's not on, you know, burning up the line, that 830 00:58:22.510 --> 00:58:27.780 Houston they should be. HMM. I have. How about this one? 831 00:58:28.099 --> 00:58:36.539 I have always, my whole time in Milwaukee, hated Chris Milton, so 832 00:58:36.860 --> 00:58:40.730 I want them out of there. And how about this trade? Chris Middleton 833 00:58:42.250 --> 00:58:47.170 for Bradley Bill and Mobile Mare? Mobis just like just to even definitive financials. 834 00:58:47.409 --> 00:58:52.530 But Bradley Bellefore Chris Milton. What do you mean? I don't hate 835 00:58:52.570 --> 00:58:59.320 it. I feel like they're very similar players. Really. Bill is way 836 00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:06.079 more consistent than Chris. Chris Middleton is the most overrated player in this league. 837 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:08.960 Getting you're very angry today. You have a lot of hair, I 838 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:13.230 have a lot of hate. Is just fine, because this man has been 839 00:59:13.309 --> 00:59:21.309 paid a hundred and fifty million dollars for five years and yeah, goes can 840 00:59:21.349 --> 00:59:23.860 go games with scoring five points. Well, it's another problem, though, 841 00:59:23.980 --> 00:59:28.619 is that contract is not great. That's what I'm saying. But you trade 842 00:59:28.699 --> 00:59:34.780 this man, he is terrible, and get an actual bolt and Bradley Bill. 843 00:59:35.179 --> 00:59:37.650 I mean, I if Milwaukee could do that, I would do it 844 00:59:37.889 --> 00:59:43.050 right. I feel like Washington wouldn't really be interested in that. We're just 845 00:59:43.130 --> 00:59:45.969 playing fantasies again. I'm just saying. Well, I mean we're also like 846 00:59:46.530 --> 00:59:52.050 trys makes meet somewhat realistic here. Not even get he said. I mean 847 00:59:52.130 --> 00:59:54.480 your guys in there. You know why watch anyone do it? You know 848 00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:59.360 it's not a to go to rebuilding because John Wall is not going to play 849 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.239 anymore. I don't know what any strong about. I don't do like if 850 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.920 you. I feel like if you put that trade into K it would be 851 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:07.789 in. It would be rejected. I'll be so successful. I have it 852 01:00:07.869 --> 01:00:15.150 on my swing right now. Hold on, do you have that GM perk, 853 01:00:15.349 --> 01:00:19.269 the master trade negotiator, or whatever you know it? Then it doesn't 854 01:00:19.309 --> 01:00:24.420 count at that. Sam presty got there. I don't actually did actually get 855 01:00:24.460 --> 01:00:28.900 it on the ESPN trade machine. But, like Breley, bill was out. 856 01:00:28.940 --> 01:00:31.099 He requested the trade. So they need to find something to give for 857 01:00:31.139 --> 01:00:35.340 him. So I agree with Milwaukee. Could do that. They should do 858 01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:37.889 that. So I don't want things watching. Ti would be interested in that 859 01:00:37.090 --> 01:00:42.130 without a pick or something fair. But yeah, just throwing like two or 860 01:00:42.170 --> 01:00:46.289 three pace. I don't need them, just so casualty to it. Whatever. 861 01:00:46.969 --> 01:00:52.440 We don't care. The other one will get terrible dofd on, just 862 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.199 as throw all our picks out of the stir of you. I beg perfect. 863 01:00:55.199 --> 01:01:00.400 DM. I would be out Tim walking into instant contended, even though 864 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.199 they already are. But they came to make it past the sund like that 865 01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:09.230 GM that's sold the future of the nets to the Celtics for kg like throw 866 01:01:09.349 --> 01:01:13.309 prey first rounders Adam. So we're shoe of the worst trays all time. 867 01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:20.460 It's pretty bad. All right. What do you got? Beja or okay's 868 01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:23.820 I fired up. So I'm excited. I hope this one. Hope this 869 01:01:23.900 --> 01:01:29.340 one delivers the same kind of punch. I got to make the financials work 870 01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:34.170 a little bit and I'm sure it's pretty doable. But if there's anyway in, 871 01:01:34.250 --> 01:01:37.409 this is keeping with the theme of the Houston Rockets, if there is 872 01:01:37.530 --> 01:01:43.610 any way that the Lakers could somehow get Eric Gordon, I'll be all in 873 01:01:43.849 --> 01:01:47.440 for that. I don't know how the financials might work, but I think 874 01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:53.280 with the addition of Dinner Schroder are
Gordon, if KCP is to walk in 875 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:58.559 Free Agency, I think that's the perfect that's the perfect destination, because he 876 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.670 said he's unhappy with his role in Houston. You talked about getting probably a 877 01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:07.550 thousand more open shots with Lebrin. You they need three point shooting and he 878 01:02:07.670 --> 01:02:12.989 can score pretty much when he wants to. I think obviously s Kuzman would 879 01:02:13.030 --> 01:02:16.820 happen to be involved in the deal and probably a little bit more capital to 880 01:02:16.900 --> 01:02:21.699 get too. I think Eric Gordon's fourteen million dollars a year, but I 881 01:02:21.820 --> 01:02:27.739 think Eric Gordon to La is probably that would make them even better than they 882 01:02:27.780 --> 01:02:30.329 were last year. Like to be honest, this is amazing. Okay, 883 01:02:30.369 --> 01:02:32.769 I'm looking at the finance. I'm trying to make it work, you know, 884 01:02:34.610 --> 01:02:38.050 and I don't see any big contracts. Number. KUZMA's only two million. 885 01:02:38.090 --> 01:02:39.929 You know, I'm saying. So, yeah, they got to get 886 01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:44.840 to fourteen, I think. Yeah, so are going fourteen? Yeah, 887 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.440 I mean if I could use by signing trade, if I could get it, 888 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.280 give up keys. That's what I was here in case. Yeah, 889 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:59.710 KCP, Sign Trade for Eric Gordon not you play every Bradley because he wants 890 01:02:59.710 --> 01:03:02.590 to leave. So you put it any belly and KCP you have Eric Gordon. 891 01:03:04.909 --> 01:03:07.030 I don't really think that a push roder. The Schroder play more the 892 01:03:07.110 --> 01:03:09.989 one or the two. He's a one, you know, he's always played 893 01:03:10.110 --> 01:03:15.019 one, but he moved to to. Okay, I don't know if Eric 894 01:03:15.059 --> 01:03:17.980 Gordman necessarily buying the coming off the bench. I don't know. I mean 895 01:03:19.019 --> 01:03:21.780 he's a little bit older like me. Who would you put that shooting guard? 896 01:03:21.900 --> 01:03:23.820 They don't have anyways starting more. What's I'm saying? Starters? Not 897 01:03:23.940 --> 01:03:28.489 playing the to? Then Eric Gordon, because like that's sure. We're going 898 01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:31.010 one. Yeah, and he's used to playing six man too, if you 899 01:03:31.050 --> 01:03:35.889 need to come off the bench. But I could easily see Eric Gordon slide 900 01:03:35.929 --> 01:03:38.690 in that the to. And who's to say Lebron doesn't stay at the point 901 01:03:38.769 --> 01:03:44.280 guard, because you know he's like kind of a point forward anyway. But 902 01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:46.119 you know, if anybody can make it work, I think you know, 903 01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:52.039 Lebron could probably strategically, if he needs to play more three or one, 904 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:57.190 can kind of accommodate these guys. I mean, I hate that deal because 905 01:03:57.469 --> 01:04:00.590 I think it's great for the Lakers and I hate the Lakers. I would 906 01:04:00.590 --> 01:04:05.469 rather watch quall throw up a lot of bad shots then them have a top 907 01:04:05.550 --> 01:04:09.710 with that bad juju. We don't need that. We don't even that. 908 01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:14.579 One of these days I'm going to unload on Kyle Kuzba. You just wait, 909 01:04:15.019 --> 01:04:16.940 I got some he's your boy. You know. Some of you talk 910 01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:24.570 what your mean that you know shot. Anyway, if you're listening to this, 911 01:04:24.969 --> 01:04:28.610 thanks for joining us. We sincerely appreciate it. Remember to follow the 912 01:04:28.690 --> 01:04:32.050 podcast on Instagram at the DOT. That or podcast, and next week we're 913 01:04:32.050 --> 01:04:35.690 going to be reacting to the draft. Will actually have some realities to talk 914 01:04:35.730 --> 01:04:40.920 about by that time. Free Agency could be mostly over. We'll have a 915 01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:44.000 bunch of trades, hopefully the talk about. I think the lines are going 916 01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:45.920 to be burning up. I think there could be a lot of moves that 917 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.800 happen and we'll have the draft react. So do not miss next week's episode. 918 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.909 We got a lot to talk about. Once again, thanks for listening. 919 01:04:51.909 --> 01:04:56.550 We appreciate it. Thank you and share what you're friends
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