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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome to the Baseball Insiders Frostbanks Show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Adam Wanderb joined by a fan title to help you Frostbanks guru Eric Cole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There he is on your screen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are coming at you every couple of weeks during this weird portion of the offseason where Major League Baseball teams are still active.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be out there watching the NLCS and ALCS.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have yourself a grand old time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a fan of the teams that are leading those series, if you are not, it is the worst week of your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, if you're a prospect fan, if you're a baseball fan, you're probably a prospect fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Eric and I will be here to keep you appraised of what's going on below the service.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, in October, that means Arizona
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last time we spoke we didn't really have data to go off of now we have some really standouts both tools wise and performance wise We want to break down who is capturing attention who maybe could be doing a little bit more who is not getting enough shine We're here to give it to him plus talking to LCS
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[SPEAKER_00]: fall a swap that seems almost inevitable at this point, but we at Taco's Way to Paula because that is the name on everybody's left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're watching the Dodgers flail around throughout the first two games, you're probably going to be watching this dude for a reason in game three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Eric Cole, welcome to the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Adam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to be here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked about some prospects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took a little while to start getting fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of those early opening rounds were the most intriguing of series in the lot of cases.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now we're kind of starting to see the brewers, the Dodgers series like both games have been very entertaining.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, obviously earlier, some of the early rounds in the DS were a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we're seeing some new blood at the top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, you know, this is kind of a time of year where I start trying to keep my on the air zone folly, I will say, I have a somewhat troubled relationship with with your zone folly just because we can get a lot of how I put it, there's a lot of data that comes out of it, some of it is helpful, I don't think all of it is helpful and that creates some very strange conversations about certain names, particularly the pitching side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, sometimes it's the raw data.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's the performance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know how to conflate the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, these are in the spring training complexes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are in the harsh Arizona desert weather, uh, extremely dry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes the ball flies who knows, uh, we're here to break down what we do know for now, though, or at least what we think we know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's talk fall ball before we get into the prospect that it emerged in the postseason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we know with the caveat that it is difficult to decide who is showing real promise and who's weak long sample size in a prospect showcase matters more than others.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But which prospect so far in the early going in the AFL have shown you the most early promise?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to flag Aiden Miller here because that's a dude who had a lost year for the Philadelphia failures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: borderline absent from the entire season with back issues and needed the AFL assignment to I mean get back on track is maybe the pie in the sky goal, but just got to put rep to got to participate and he
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has done that and he has shine so far so he's the one that I think maybe the biggest name with the most to prove that's doing the most, but who are the prospects who are standing out for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been here at the top, missing that much time with the back injury, you always worry about, you know, a guy's timing his eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And on the hitting side, I trust, I trust what I see in the end of the following, I don't necessarily trust the data a lot of times because things can get a little weird with the defense and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aden's passing all the tests right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hitting like what 500, he has some crazy like 1500 OPS through his first few games or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing that stands out to me honestly is the number of walks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just getting on base at this ridiculous clip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're been off when you're been out for that long,
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[SPEAKER_01]: still having the patience and the ability to like utilize that patience effectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of guys can sit there with the bed on the shoulders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not always your out the doom, but a lot of the guys who can like really make the most of it are the ones that can, how do I put it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: are the ones that can just immediately react to what they're seeing and like they did not lose that at all for a long period of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that that's kind of what stands out with me with Miller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your boy Dax, Killby, looking pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was worried, he missed a lot of time with that hamstring injury and he only looked okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the bad of all stuff was fine and you know, there wasn't anything that was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: overly concerning, but he didn't, he wasn't the dominant force that he wasn't the first got the pro ball and everyone had these giant, giant-ormous expectations of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But looking pretty good so far, five hits to his first four games, including a homer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, for a guy that just needs work, that just needs played appearances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you want to see, this guy who's consistently performing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it all, again, it's not the thing some morage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some kids like a bunch of dribblers down to their baseline that someone who's never played third base before, just could feel their whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hitting the ball of the 40s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd love to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rounding up the third hitter on my list, which will probably tell you how I feel about pictures and that there's on a folly is higher hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy that is now, it was a new organization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how he plays in the years on Wally, he's going to determine how quickly the Tigers decide to move him, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, then he just needs to be consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to tip 10 bombs or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just needs to consistently deform.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is just what he's done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But six head through six games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You love to see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just
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[SPEAKER_01]: getting lots of playing time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just playing a bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's playing a bunch, it's because the Tigers ask that he play a bunch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's the case, maybe we start seeing some real buzz around him, certain 2020, because if he's playing well, and he's close to ready, and he can hit, the choice might be a place where he actually finds a play time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those some raising the questions that would lose out in that arrangement, but I think that he is playing particularly well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and are watching hope and also are among maybe the most vocal contingent of people just hoping the Dodgers get eliminated in the next couple of days because we all know tarick scoobles going to the Dodgers long term we knew that before the trade we know that now as we await the offseason worst kept secret in the world so the least that they can hope for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is a tough year one year half, whatever you call the backup of the season that ends with the Dodgers not winning the world series, not taking full advantage of school will plus hope having a great fall league season leading to more momentum heading in next year for the Tigers end of the package.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The school was game one of the NLCS.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Looked a lot like a Carlos Redon start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I flagged earlier with just like the first couple innings you're like, man, this guy is un-touchable and juiced up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one is getting to him today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then
all of a sudden he's out before the end of the six, the couple runs of score.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lion score is fine, but not the dominance that you were hoping to get or that you paid for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's in Congress, but the guy you saw for the first couple innings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if this series ends quickly, maybe school won't even get another start, Tigers fans will be watching hope closely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm breaking new ground here by saying I think the Dodgers push this to at least five probably six, but we'll see if it doesn't get to five we get no more Scooble, but hope is going to be a flashpoint, if it will go point either way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, your all offense assessment, is there anyone that has not taken advantage of the showcases, much as you are hoping they would again, it's all early, it's all a small sample, but people you had high hopes for, you're just like, man, not popping off the page so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is deeply funny that I immediately should talk to you about the picture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, uh, not of the Braves guys are doing particularly well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't played a whole lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know the right on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe some guys are just kind of slowly using back from giving them in because we'll see these guys have been injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the things who has been playing with Braves McKenzie and the stuff has looked good, but his command has looked terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now McKenzie's a guy who got my multiple promotions early on this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was quickly becoming one of those pitching prospects that was going to kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: National sensation he was starting to get that sort of attention and then he had a couple bad starts and he got hurt and then he was just gone, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the hope was as in in the years on a fall week in the shorter stance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where you don't really learn, if a guy can start or not, which is why I don't necessarily like Arizona of all league stats, because every, every pitch is a really herb, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can just throw his harness, they want to, for three innings, and then they don't have to worry about keeping themselves getting in self-gast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in McKenzie's case, the stuff is looking good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff is just a very wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as a result, he said to take some stuff off, when
he's been walking too many guys early, then he loves some of the balls over the plate, and it's not being throw very hard, and he just fits it really hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been particularly good at the start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, another name is Arun Eskabar, Eskabar is a weird one, and it's not surprising to me that he is struggling because he looked really good when he got men's pro debut, just like those early rookie ball just looked like he was going to be something special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, he was okay, you know, like he was fine, you know, sure he's young, so maybe he just shot that up the big young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has two hips through his first 13 boy appearances, and there's some of those play appearances have been embarrassing to look at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just hasn't looked good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that maybe the talent is still there, and he's still a very like physical talent to die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that maybe any help that he was going to move quickly is pretty much out the window now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just kind of had to put the brakes on and get you up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last one's the Red Sox, but make some white, make some white's another weird one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And another guy that I wasn't sure, it was like truly a true 50-50, either the dry air out there was going to let him hit a bunch of bombs, or
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[SPEAKER_01]: His questionable hit tool wasn't going to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's right now, it's towards the latter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had kind of a, had a couple of okay years to start his pro career, but this year, hit a close 20 home runs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people, boy, start thinking maybe you could be something special, but something that I was watching for is he was hitting tooth in the 250s.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of would think he would have just been a little better than that if he was hitting ball with authority frequently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he gets down to there, it's on a follow-up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, three hits and five games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's like a homework.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there's some more to come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, like Mason White's is one of those guys where he feels very much like organizational depth, but interesting organizational depth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he ends up making the triple egg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he gets a couple of call ups later on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is career where he's just like filling in for a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he just doesn't do much for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first player of the week, Antonio Anderson is a guy who, like, I was not paying attention to hitting it in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's number one on the hot sheet, and that is because he flipped a game with a 115.2 mile an hour current slam.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, that's the dry air at play, but that is also raw skills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Naturally, it's hard to deny a guy like that number one on B.A.'
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[SPEAKER_00]: 's hot cheap, but not somebody I was paying much attention to heading into these proceedings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this sort of just like a flashpoint moment, or do you think this is a guy who could make more of this moment?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't really Eric is that 115th of the bat, so that at least makes it interesting, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a few things here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, I'm interested, but I'm not enamored.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't particularly
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you have to be a little bit skeptical of all of the sudden it's being good all of us just one year, but the last two years he has improved, do you have seen actual demands for a measurable appearance performance out of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can obviously hit the ball hard and if he does that a lot, then that'll be very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not sure if he's a third baseman, in which case, if he's a first baseman, it's not like the red socks of a shortage of guys where they probably should be playing first base over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just question why not the hit tools going to end up being enough to justify, well, what is ultimately a lack of defensive ability?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he figures out how to be an average third baseman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I highly doubt it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's case, he's a first baseman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with a questionable hit tool that does hit the ball hard, but maybe now it's off in the sweet one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, he hits a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of a tweeter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of ends up being kind of a first-based gauge type that might not hit enough to be a first-page to the edge type.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for right now, it's a fun story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he goes off in the Arizona fall, he can change my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a guy that if he has a good fall league, he's like a lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on exit velocities, he's handling, you know, breaking stuff really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then going into next year, the conversation is very different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: guy sitting on a college campus meme with the change my mind banner when it comes to Antonio Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now is the time now is the month October is the month go ahead and do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes the Arizona falling is about redemption too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about missed opportunities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about people trying to recreate lost chances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's a bastion wall card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We only got one game in the AFL last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Injured returned with a vengeance this season hitting
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on, I mean, the resurgence, but also just thoughts on what a strong 227 looks like for Walcott, how high he can climb, and whether this is a part of it or not, just getting back to the new normal for a due, we expect to be a due in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny that you mentioned as my mirror, and we talked about walkout on this podcast before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, he for a while, he was in the same group as early on Leo de Vries, whereas people were betting on the potential they weren't betting on what was actually happening on the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what walkout works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was young for every level he's ever played at, and he played pretty well, but everyone's like a guy playing pretty well at these levels at his age is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true, that is objectively true, but that doesn't mean that like, you have to get, there has to be a payoff at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're just always like, better than people, better than you should be for a zage, but then like, doesn't end up actually being good, that doesn't only do anyone a good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he gets hurt, and for me out, those are obvious worrisome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays a position where you necessarily want to be able to throw, and his arm is one of his most important tools, but he has a lot of, and a lot of the things that he does as a lab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was concerned coming into the season, and all he did was just be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just great, objectively much better than
he was before the injury, and a little bit older, a little bit wiser, seems like this approach at the place a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like walk out a lot and that makes the Rangers very interesting this off season because there's a certain short stop over there, they probably don't want to pay very much anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think walk out's very close to ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying Texas thinks that, but if they're sending into the Arizona following after what he just did, I'm wondering, because usually you'd like, okay, after a major injury like death,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pick a regular offseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, no, go to Arizona.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need you to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, another 20 games or whatever ends up being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a real chance that they go with him next year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can move, see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the Zekelderan is just the guy that just get rid of and they just let play third base and have both of those guys that be fun as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the kind of the trade that makes me think that would make sense is the what they're doing with Walcott, but I think he's been great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's looked good at the years on the fall, and he looked good all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately I'm glad to see him doing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very fun to watch his big big town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our weekend says, uh, Walcott don't you know that it's insane, it is insane and he should be, it should work out for the Texas Rangers moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, on the pitching side, you know, not to not to put too fine and point on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we don't even want it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to touch on pictures here, but uh, the best time performance of the week might be to Colorado be right when he and the Carlos fans needed to spark the most obviously Harlan Susana who we have talked about a plenty on this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: through flames last week got got a whole bunch of love but there's not that much more to say about him other than like the last time he spoke like it was like a high-end reliever and there he goes doing high-end reliever stuff but uh thoughts on robie thoughts on maybe the guy who needed this showcase the most in robie and Susanna again they're doing what we thought there would be instead it's like if i was seeing Susanna and robie going five six innings and doing what they were doing
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not, they're just, it's this kind of the all-star game mindset, but for the entirety of the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just don't get to see that, and that's really what matters for me with those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: However, one name that did catch my attention was Demetro Krasantis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris something's interesting because this guy is not on the national radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be he can flat out yet now playing for the dynamics unless you're like a hydrapic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't we'll get a lot of attention until you're like very obviously one of the better players of double air AAA right and Chris something's not there yet but they were really aggressive and promoting him and he saw time at double air AAA this year
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[SPEAKER_01]: for kettle martens accent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if if they hadn't gotten rid of the guy yet, I'm a little bit skeptical that they ever will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's just given them every opportunity to be like, okay, we got you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just too much of a headache.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're very talented, but we can't deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they keep, they extended him, they keep making excuses for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if maybe this is the offseason where they like was a little more
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a little bit more forceful and inexpore in the option of moving him on because again, this is the off season to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get done in this, but months before the off, we'll walk out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone will pay you a king's ransom because this free aging class is terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For some, they saw times at, at, at, at, at, at second base, saw time at AAA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's not super far off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they're giving him time at the years on a following, maybe that's the what they ultimately are deciding to do is to give him that extra point time and see what they have in him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to decide to do something different from Marta.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he can hit and I would not be shocked if he starts getting double under consideration pretty quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what the plan is from our tire who is interested in pursuing him at whatever the price is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the price got to be dropping, but it also, you know, you look bad if it drops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So who knows, I don't feel great if I'm acquiring or
if I'm trying to deal that with makes having a fallback plan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nice and speaking of the MLB level,
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[SPEAKER_00]: our playoff takes around it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you are watching the Dodgers and brewers, you might have a similar take to Joey Vato, which is to Paula about to be in that upper tier quick quick and to Paula for Ellie, they'll accrues, who says no, or you might not have that take, because he's received one ad bat in the NLCS and it was with two outs in the ninth inning of game one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was so-to-shuffling and laughing at balls and spitting on things and going, no, no, no, and taking his base, and he looked poised and he looked beyond his years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he may get a big chance in game three to be a huge difference maker in this series that, yeah, open it with this is a three-peed opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boogie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Joey Otani, Kyle Tucker, or the biggest stars in baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them look tired in year three of a lengthy postseason run, shout out again to the rest of the league deciding that the Dodgers could have Tucker and Terri Scouble as a treat to help keep them energized during their pursuit of a third straight world series, but nobody looks worse and more worse for where than showhio, Tani, who
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Roberts is gonna sit down and have a conversation about taking them out of game three, and they're gonna be people who are gonna say, you can't do that to your superstar, the threat of him is more important than what he's actually able to provide, all through the challenge flag on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause right now there's no threat of him, there's no lower half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: there's no body in the swings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He lost control of the bat yesterday on strike three against your rebate and it wasn't just an outlier it was he has not had a lower half in this series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He put his full throttled swing behind one late in yesterday's game and it was a medium depth fly ball to left field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he's either not making contact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is taking chopper, grounder swings, trying to put, he's been patient, you know, he's provided patients from time to time, but the Paula can provide that, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you're doing yourself a disservice if you start showing a Tonya game three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody gets uncompromised from what he's been in games one and two with one day of rest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless Joheritani is even more of a miracle worker than I thought, which can't be ruled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cannot be ruled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was even scared tweeting about this in the middle of yesterday's game, because I thought his eighth inning AB might have looked spectacular and it did not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he looks like someone who should not be actively playing Major League Baseball right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're at the Paula Believer, and if you're, if you're getting tweets like that after one walk in the ninth inning of a one run game,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The discourse is about to get dangerous if he gets a game three start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what are your thoughts on the impression that he's left?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the possibility that he slides in there for showy Otsani, the Dodgers aren't in last resort mode quite yet, but snow class now are not Yamamoto and Scooble, and that's who's left to save their season after the Brewers held serve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The underdog Brewers who also happen to be a team of the better record than the Dodgers this year,
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[SPEAKER_00]: health survey, haven't taken a road game or the series is not over, but you are in danger and the Dodgers are potentially considering a pretty drastic experiment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and look, I don't think the Paul is the issue here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the issue is the optics of what happens if he's dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's truly, I think it's an optics thing because anyone who's watched what's been happening with Otonny,
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[SPEAKER_01]: scared to pitch to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't exactly what they're going to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to throw on the outer third or sliders away and he's going to swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you might contact a lot of times he won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just that's just the truth of what happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been able to draw some walks here and there because there have been some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand that the psychology of it is that do I really want to be the guy who finds out that Shovey Otani is back when I put when I hang
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he, you're right, there's no lower half of this swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he looks lost, his timings off, he can clearly tell that his swing just looks like he, everything hurts, probably because everything hurts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, the Paula will get some run, but against the team with the Brewers that scouts other players really well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, I would view that this course is a
little bit insane to me because I think that just way developed good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's like, you know, the next MVP to come out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I'm not even sure how much beyond this postseason, he's going to play for the Dodgers because that's a thing that likes to use their prospect pieces and send them way for veteran pieces that they like better or at least are more proven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what's the, what happens first times the poll, if the poll is, it's a man to play in the field, for example, what happens if he makes an error, you know, in a high spot and for What happens if he strikes out with two on and two out, you know what I mean, like these are all things all the sudden everyone's like, where they do it, and they should have played a tonning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it goes both ways right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why everyone was so excited about him drawing walk, but again, he showed some patience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are, we saw good things, but again, I don't know what time he can do, or Tony can do that, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one thing you're not missing with a tonning right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, there's other questions like when on base, what can no tiny do versus what the politics?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No tiny certainly factors of the policy is, but I also think that O-tony's might be at 40% right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, I understand it's a tough call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would, if he's that's hard to say, think he is, I would have sat him already, but at the same time, I understand it's a tough call, but I really wish people would pump the breaks because I like to qualify, but if we're thinking it's going to be like another like Andrew Jones type run in the postseason that people want my one of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile on the AL side just before we sign off a quick shout out to Chase DeLater, who who knows how many, you know, the universe has to combine it a perfect moment in time to shine on us to have DeLater healthy for a playoff run, but three for four and a dinner and a double seven total bases in the Guardians last minute rally to sort of secure a game one win at the
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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of heroes in this one, Patrick Bailey, Nathaniel Loe, but you got a pinpoint to otter is just the difference maker behind Jose Ramirez, Joe Adele too, but DeLater is a guy who all the talent in the world as a prospect, a guy who we just could not evaluate without giving him the big red fantasy football flag,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you still can't, because it's injury after injury.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nonsense after nonsense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, the universe has smiled upon us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Delauder is healthy right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Delauder is looking effortlessly powerful in the box for a guardian steam that is putting the pressure on the one seated raise on the other side of the bracket.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This postseason is down to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: three teams that haven't won a world series, either ever or in 78 years, and the team trying to 3P.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So America's rooting interest is quite clear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: De Lauder could be a big part of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So could De Paula, Eric and I will see you in two weeks time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out the baseball insider's Monday Wednesday Friday for up to the minute, play off coverage for air, call I'm Adam Wander, take care everybody.