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00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.560 All right, no one is prepared for the consequences. 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.120 Open AI's chief scientist calls for an AI slowdown. 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:37.360 Good afternoon, Tech Time listeners. 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.960 Our lead story today comes straight from the heart of the AI world. 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.879 And a warning that's already sending shock waves across the industry. 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:58.800 OpenAI's chief scientist, Jacob Pochoki, says the global race to build smarter and more autonomous AI systems has gone too far, too fast, and no one is prepared for the consequences. 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:00.960 That's right. 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:08.719 Well, he he kinda, you know, when OpenAI's chief scientist comes on out, it gets a little scary. 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.960 But let's now go more for Jennifer Merrick on this story. 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:15.840 Thanks, guys. 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:28.400 OpenAI's chief scientist, Jacob Pachoki, says the global race to build smarter and more autonomous AI systems has gone too far too fast, and that no one is prepared for the consequences. 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:38.080 Just days after OpenAI rolled out its new enterprise model GPT, Six Astra, Pachoki published a striking message on the company's website. 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:49.360 In it, he argues that AI development should slow down across the entire industry, not just at OpenAI, because machine intelligence is beginning to outpace human understanding. 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:59.120 Pachoki says today's AI systems present clear new dangers to computer security, especially as open AI experiments with recursive self-improvement. 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.639 That's where an AI helps design the next version of itself. 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:09.840 He says, without human oversight, we are in trouble, and a race between open AI and anthropic will cause a problem. 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:11.680 Now back to the studio. 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.399 That could never happen. 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.000 Well, according to Pachoki, the world has two real options. 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:30.319 One, strengthen alignment and keep humans tightly in the loop, or coordinate globally to slow development until safety measures catch up. 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:31.040 Yeah, yeah. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:31.279 Okay. 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:31.519 Yeah. 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:32.480 You know what? 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:34.160 You know what we do with warnings? 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:34.879 What is that? 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:35.680 Ignore them. 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:36.000 We do. 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:36.959 Every time. 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:38.720 You know, you see a warning on something. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:39.360 Don't do this. 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:40.160 And you know what? 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.000 The first thing that triggers that human emotion is, what if I did do that, right? 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:45.680 I mean, that's kind of a I don't know. 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.000 He's not the only one that's freaked out this week. 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.439 No, there's there's a bunch of other people. 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:54.800 There's a bunch of them that are saying that you know AI is going to exterminate us. 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:56.319 Yeah, it's interesting. 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:57.439 And here's the problem. 00:04:57.600 --> 00:04:59.040 You have two companies, right? 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:00.800 You have anthropic and open AI. 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:05.839 And then Google tries to pretend like they're in this space, and so does uh grok, but they're really not. 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:10.639 So you really have anthropic and open AI racing against each other, and they both want to be the best. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:18.959 So what they do is they keep on releasing better and better and better models, and where they're not putting safeguards because they don't want to be the one that's behind, right? 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:25.439 The new GPT Astra is better than any of the Claude stuff that I've used. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:34.800 It is it is just amazing, and it understands when you type in sentences, it actually has the logic and reasoning that it comes up with. 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:40.160 And it can actually think about okay, well, if you're gonna ask for this, you're probably gonna ask for these 18 other things. 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.399 And instead of asking you, hey, do you want to do this? 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:43.120 Do you want to do this? 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:47.600 It just automatically does it and says, These are the 18 things that I've done. 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.319 Is there anything here that you would like to change or not change? 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.600 And some of the stuff that they come up with is just like amazing, and you're like, Oh, that I didn't think about that, I didn't think about that. 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:03.839 So the conclusion this is the dangerous version of Alexa continuing to ask me questions after I just asked for something. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.120 Yeah, yeah, right? 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:12.160 Because you ask Alexa something or or your AI something, you say, Hey, where's what what time is this store open? 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:22.560 And it'll tell you the operating hours, and then they always, every single time, do you want to know more about this location or where what you can find here? 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:27.199 Yeah, so they keep on asking, and then if you say yes, then it'll tell you a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit. 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:32.639 I have yelled and screamed and hollered and tried to get them to stop that, but they won't do it. 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:33.759 They probably not. 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.720 His conclusion is that we need both. 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:44.800 We need to have them immediately,

otherwise, so he put this out on the company's internal webpage that that we're in danger. 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:46.800 I don't know how he still has a job, but whatever. 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.199 Okay, I guess he's I guess he's still employed there. 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.319 So he decided to warn everybody at the company. 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.120 Um Are they really gonna fire this guy? 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.120 Hey guys, Skynet's coming along. 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:58.319 Just want to let you all know. 00:06:58.399 --> 00:06:59.199 Just be ready for that. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:06:59.600 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:01.360 Yeah, he's like, oh, you're fired. 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.600 Okay, I'll just go over to Anthropic. 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:04.720 I'm sure they'll hire me. 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:06.720 And then the Anthropic will hire the other people. 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:07.519 It's interesting. 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:17.519 This is all the fallout from the hugging face breach that we talked about three weeks ago on the show, uh, where AI systems were kind of breaching other AI systems. 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:24.959 But the big question now is whether the rest of the industry will listen with companies racing toward the agents and self-improving systems. 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:34.319 Is the coordinated slowdown gonna happen or are they gonna continue to have their fast paced process so that they can be the leader and dominant? 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:36.639 I'm suddenly getting a prophecy here. 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:38.399 Nothing's gonna change, they're gonna continue. 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:40.160 You know why? 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:45.120 Because IPOs are coming on out and they need to be worth money and they don't want to be out of business. 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:46.240 People are stupid. 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:48.639 That's why people are stupid. 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:48.959 Yep. 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.360 Yeah, I think you're gonna say that more than once in today's show. 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:53.120 I say it all the time. 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.000 I I got a funny feeling that maybe people are stupid. 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.399 But now hang on, but you're listening to us people, so you are not stupid people. 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.120 It's everybody else are stupid people, right? 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:05.360 The AI industry people. 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:07.040 I think that's what Mike's saying. 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:07.759 All right. 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:12.639 Well, we're we're we hey, yeah, we all make dumb mistakes every day. 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:13.199 We do. 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:14.079 All of us do. 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:14.879 We do. 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.040 And when money is the goal, it just makes it. 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:20.480 You're gonna make a whole lot of money. 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:22.000 All right. 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:22.560 Well, you know what? 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.000 Let's go to story number two. 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.160 Well, I have something that has nothing to do with AI. 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.319 That's you must be excited, isn't it? 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:31.040 That's amazing. 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:32.559 Okay, well, what do you have? 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:36.399 Scientists discover a new form of ice. 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:36.799 What? 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.360 Okay, which is hotter than lava. 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:40.000 All right. 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:41.440 Have you ever heard have you ever heard of that? 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:42.399 No, I've never heard of this. 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.159 All right, so I you know, we go to the ice box. 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:46.559 Yeah. 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:51.360 What we used to call the ice box, the refrigerator, the the freezer. 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.080 Most of us think that ice is something cold. 00:08:54.159 --> 00:09:02.960 The scientists have now created a new form of ice at temperatures above 2300 degrees Celsius, which is hotter than lava. 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:04.879 Okay, so hotter than lava. 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:13.039 So uh I I thought there was only like three states of in in in my biology classes, and there's solids, liquids, that's some that's some old stuff there, buddy. 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:15.759 That's just in basic science. 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.960 Okay, so you just answered your own question. 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:19.759 All right, okay. 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:20.639 What do we got going on here? 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:22.080 Because I'm wrong. 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:24.480 P O S. 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:25.360 People are stupid. 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:26.000 P-A-S. 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:27.039 People are stupid. 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.159 The secret uh behind this is pressure. 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:40.000 So reacher researchers squeezed tiny water samples between diamonds at pressures more than two million times the Earth's atmosphere and heated them with lasers. 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:41.840 Instead of turning into gas. 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:42.399 All right. 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:42.799 What? 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.639 So they had lasers shooting into this thing. 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:47.200 Yeah. 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:52.799 What? 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:53.600 Who thinks of that? 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:54.480 Okay, continuing on. 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:56.000 Okay, hey, let me get the lasers. 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:57.039 Let's aim it at that today. 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:58.159 Okay, that sounds great. 00:09:58.240 --> 00:09:58.559 Okay. 00:09:58.799 --> 00:09:59.519 What happens? 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:01.519 No tactical pandas there. 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:08.080 Instead of uh turning into gas, the water forms an exotic material called superionic ice. 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.360 This strange state is part

solid and part liquid. 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:17.919 The oxygen atoms stay locked in place like a crystal while the hydrogen atoms move freely through the structure. 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:28.480 In the new study, scientists have discovered a previously unconfirmed version of superionic ice called hexagonal close packed or HCP ice. 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.200 As pressure and temperature increases, this new structure becomes a dominant form. 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:42.960 Now this matters because scientists believe that superionic ice may exist deep inside Uranus. 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:45.279 And Neptune. 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:46.240 Oh, okay, the planets. 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:56.879 Understanding this new version of ice could help explain the unusual magnetic fields that people that are recorded from those distant planets. 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:08.799 Now, why this while this sounds impossible, researchers have shown that under extreme conditions, water can become a form of ice that's hotter than love and may hold clues to the mysteries of our solar system. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.720 Okay, maybe that's what happened with on Mars, huh? 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:19.279 Deep underneath there, maybe there's some that that's at the core of okay. 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:19.840 I don't know. 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.960 There's plenty of movies out there that can tell you what happened on Mars here. 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:25.519 What was that? 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:27.440 Does he play a sound effect? 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:28.399 Uh no, no, nothing. 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:29.200 Anyway, moving on. 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:30.399 Okay, I don't care. 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:31.039 All right. 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:32.320 Story number three. 00:11:32.639 --> 00:11:36.559 NVIDIA's 10 billion AI bet signals where the industry is headed. 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:37.120 Here we go. 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:46.320 How big is the AI race getting while NVIDIA may be about to write a check that's larger than Europe's biggest tech funding round ever. 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:56.480 According to reports that we've received, NVIDIA is in talks to invest up to 10 billion in the AI company Anthropics upcoming IPO. 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:10.320 If the deal happens, it would help support a public offering aimed at raising as much as a hundred billion at a nearly two trillion of evaluation, potentially making this the largest IPO in history. 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:12.799 What's especially interesting is the timing. 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:22.480 Just days earlier, NVIDIA participated in Mistrolls, AI's record-setting$3 billion funding round, the largest ever raised by a European technology company. 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:27.679 Yet the amount NVIDIA is considering phantropic alone could exceed that entire round itself. 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:32.240 The move highlights NVIDIA's growing influence across the AI ecosystem. 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:34.960 The company just doesn't supply chips anymore. 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.399 It reinvests back into the companies that are buying those chips. 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.240 So this is such an interesting deal. 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:45.120 NVIDIA sells the chips for AI and then they reinvest into the AI company. 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.519 They sell the chips and reinvest the AI company. 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.360 So it's it's like a circular promotion of profit. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:59.279 Yeah, look, so NVIDIA is going to end up creating you know they're gonna be an exterminating us. 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:08.639 See how money works? 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:14.799 So NVIDIA is gonna For the love of money, open AI has not been invested by NVIDIA yet. 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:25.279 As soon as NVIDIA decides to invest into OpenAI, then that we'll have the three largest AI companies that buy processors from them reinvesting into the companies itself. 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:32.559 So every single time they go out to NVIDIA and buy another processor, NVIDIA then just reinvests into that AI company and owns more and more. 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:42.639 Soon NVIDIA making the chips for the company with this process could be the global dominant owner of all three AI companies. 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.159 Okay, they can sell them the chips, they can stuff it. 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:47.840 So they invest it, right? 00:13:47.919 --> 00:14:00.080 So they sell them the chips, they invest into these companies, they then control the market because they put their chips in these companies, these companies have to buy it from them, and they continue to reinvest. 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.360 It looks like an AR AI arms race acceleration. 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:04.879 Nvidia is just there. 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:10.960 Picking up the shovel and taking stakes to the miners gold that's available. 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:20.879 I I sincerely want to thank NVIDIA for all that it's doing because I went I went online to check out prices for new laptops. 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:21.200 Yeah. 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:23.279 Double the price of what they used to be. 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:24.080 Yes, they are. 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:25.519 They are it's you thank you, NVIDIA. 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:35.360 If you buy a PlayStation 5 or if you buy an Xbox Series X, now they're$700 to$900. 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:37.200 I bought mine for$4.99. 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.039 Same hardware inside of there. 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.200 It's just the inflation of the chips. 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:41.759 Yep. 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:48.399 Pretty soon, pretty soon I'm just gonna go offline and then I'm not going to have any truck with AI at all. 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.759 I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go out and live in the woods and all the stuff. 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:52.960 You're not gonna do that though. 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.240 You're you're Alexa a girlfriend who would wouldn't handle that.

00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:57.600 You you need to have her to talk to you. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:14:59.279 Yeah, I hate Alexa. 00:14:59.440 --> 00:14:59.919 I hate it. 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:01.120 I hate it. 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:02.960 But you talk to her all the time. 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:08.240 I I have it on so that I can get things, but I hate I hate it. 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:13.360 I just have yeah, this is and this is the masochism of living in the modern age. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:15.679 It sounds like a great relationship. 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:16.080 Yeah. 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:16.879 I have to have it. 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:17.360 I hate it. 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:19.279 I have to have it, I hate it, I have to have it. 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:19.679 All right. 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:21.519 Well that and you're the second one. 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:22.080 I yell at it. 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:23.200 I yell at it more times. 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.120 I think that's maybe that makes me feel good about being a person that lives alone. 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:27.840 You know, okay. 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:30.000 I have I have somebody to yell at. 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:30.639 Yes. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:31.360 Okay. 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.159 Well, uh, you can always get married again. 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.639 Uh that ends our top technology stories of the week. 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:42.559 Next, we're gonna dive into our letter segment featuring scams submitted by listeners and some studio selected emails. 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.759 Be sure to listen and share this segment with a friend. 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.679 Well, now we're about to hit 88 miles per hour on our way to our next segment. 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.480 We'll catch you after this commercial break. 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.720 Looking for custom glass solutions for your next commercial project? 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:02.320 Heartongue Glass Industries is your trusted partner in custom glass fabrication. 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:12.000 For over 100 years, Heartongue has delivered proven manufacturing expertise, comprehensive product offerings, and dependable service and quality. 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:20.240 From energy-efficient facades to custom shower doors, we create glass solutions tailored to your project needs. 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.720 With eight facilities across the U.S. 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:29.840 and Canada, we combine national expertise with a local touch-insuring faster service and unparalleled customer care. 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.159 Hardton Glass Industries, where quality meets innovation. 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.679 Visit Hartongueglass.com to learn more. 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.519 All right, welcome back to Tech Time with Nathan Mum. 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.960 Our weekly show covers the top technology subjects without any political agenda. 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:58.639 We verify the facts and we do with a sense of humor

in less than 60 minutes. 00:16:58.720 --> 00:16:59.919 Of course, a little whiskey on the side. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.519 Today, Mark Gregoire, a whiskey connoisseur, is not in the studio. 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.400 Uh he's not in the studio. 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:11.440 When we get him in the studio, that will be like a uh like uh unique experience. 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:12.880 He is somewhere else now. 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.240 Last time we checked with him, uh he was in California. 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.400 Now where's Waldo situation? 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:18.799 Yeah, I know. 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:20.480 Where's where's Mark today? 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:24.640 I'm in uh like central eastern Washington, Lake Shillan. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:25.519 Okay, all right. 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.680 Well, welcome to that where you were last week. 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.279 No, he was in California last week. 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:30.960 Oh, in Southern California last week. 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:31.440 That's right. 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:32.880 It was right next to weed last week. 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:33.279 That's right. 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:33.839 Remember that? 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:34.559 Remember that weed? 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:35.279 That's right. 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:36.400 It wasn't near weed. 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.000 Weed's in northern California. 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:40.160 I just mentioned right next to the mountain. 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.319 You can tell where Peyton's mind went. 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:44.240 I'll remember last week. 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:45.759 Something you want to tell us there? 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:46.400 No. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.079 I think Peyton has been sipping a little bit too much of the whiskey today. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.119 Uh I don't think sipping is what he's been doing. 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.759 All right, Mark, what have you chosen for us today? 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.920 Today you guys are drinking Penelope Project X. 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:11.440 Now, from Penelope Bourbon's website, Project X is their experimental barrel pick program described as a chance to experience the future of bourbon. 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:22.160 This particular selection takes straight bourbon and finishes it in an authentic vintage 1964 cognac barrel from a region in France. 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:34.240 Penelope does not publish tasty notes for this specific barrel, but descriptions of it highlight states, ripe plum, black cherry, and warming baking spices. 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:41.119 This is from uh Penelope Penelope, which is owned by MGP Ingredients. 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:44.640 It's a Ross and Squibb distillery in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:52.160 Straight bourbon finish and cognac barrel, non-age stated, 111 proof, mashville's undisclosed, and it is$65. 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:55.599 I actually really, really like it. 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.559 I I I I I like it a lot. 00:18:58.799 --> 00:18:59.119 What? 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:00.880 What's the flavor supposed to be? 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.279 I say I I taste the black cherry or the cherry. 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.200 I don't know if it's a black cherry, but I taste a cherry pretty predominant in there. 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:10.400 You don't you like this, but you don't like wine bourbon. 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:11.680 I do not like wine bourbon. 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:13.359 So but this is cognac. 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:15.599 So cognac is a little different, right? 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:17.200 It's a little fancier. 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:17.680 Yeah. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:19.519 Put that pinky out. 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:22.079 Is that how you're should I be drinking it like this? 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:23.440 Is that what I should be doing? 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:23.839 Oh. 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:25.119 And then this. 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.759 Oh, that's a little that's a little super spy. 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:32.160 A million dollars. 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:34.000 Well, I'm glad you're enjoying it. 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:37.359 All right. 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:39.519 Do you like this type of whiskey, Mark? 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:41.599 Um I like this one. 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:42.079 You do? 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:42.720 Oh, okay. 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:43.039 There you go. 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:43.839 Yeah, I kind of like it. 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:45.359 I do too. 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:46.160 All right. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:47.359 Okay, well, you know what? 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:53.440 We gotta Yeah, you you almost I'll give a little hint about what I'm gonna talk about in the mumbles, but you almost didn't get any of the bottle. 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:55.680 I almost didn't get any of the bottle. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.200 Oh, you're gonna drink all of it? 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:58.079 Is that what you were saying? 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.200 I was just drinking it, and then I was like, oh no. 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.079 And I looked at the bottle, I was like, I think I got enough left for Nathan. 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:05.039 You had you had enough. 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:10.720 There was was this at a special uh uh celebratory event you attended, or is this somewhere else you can use? 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.960 Okay, I'll attend to it. 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:18.000 And listen, stay tuned, viewers, but while you're staying tuned, don't forget to like and subscribe. 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:20.880 And always payton, drink responsibly. 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:21.759 Heaven can wait. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:22.240 All right. 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:24.400 Stop smoking the wacky weed. 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:28.960 With our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:33.599 Today we bring back the funny yet informative reading of emails that I've

received during the last couple weeks. 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:41.920 This includes scam fishing emails, texting scams, and all-out missed truths disguised as legitimate emails in a segment we call letters. 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:57.279 All right. 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.759 Well, first up always starts with our board. 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:05.359 All right, these are letters that we received, and we've highlighted certain aspects of this, and we we kind of go through. 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:06.799 Mike's got his hat on. 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.279 Don't click on what it what do you tell everybody? 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:10.400 Stuff. 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:11.759 Don't click on stuff. 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:12.400 That's right. 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:14.000 Okay, what do we have here? 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.960 I have a letter from something gifts to Nathan. 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:21.119 It says, Subject, complete your order. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.759 Hello, uh, a short update from us. 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:29.440 We reduce the price on top brand gift cards for the current promotional period. 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.039 Three are available$25,$50, and$100. 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:38.000 And each one is sent to your inbox as soon as the order goes through. 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:39.599 There's no exceptions. 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.319 So they can be kept for later. 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.039 You can see the current pricing here. 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:46.880 Something, something gift cards. 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:50.799 The closing date of the promotional is listed on the page. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:56.079 If anything is unclear, reply to this message reaches me directly. 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:56.720 Thanks. 00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:57.519 Okay, hang on. 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:58.480 Highlight that. 00:21:58.559 --> 00:21:59.759 Okay, so they had they had AI. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.680 Idea and the and I hate when they they still miss a couple of letters there. 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:04.240 What does it say? 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.759 The closing date of the promotional is listed on the page. 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:17.119 If anything is unclear, replying to this message reaches me directly. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:18.079 Okay. 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:19.039 Promotion. 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:19.759 Awesome. 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:20.400 Alright. 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:20.880 Okay. 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.839 So guess what happens when you click on that email? 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.480 What possibly happened? 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:31.839 Okay, so it c so it comes on up with this big flashing uh boom, boom, boom, like webpage. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:34.319 You can get your free gift cards here. 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:34.880 Right? 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:40.079 So it so the first thing is is it lets me choose the amount of gift card I want. 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:46.559 And I've never heard about an offer where I could either choose from$25.50 to$100 gift card option. 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:52.880 If it comes on out and it allows you to choose the gift card you're gonna send to yourself, what would you what would you think of that, Mike? 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.559 Is it is that something that normally happens? 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:55.440 You go down to the store. 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:01.599 If I were gonna if I were gonna buy a card for$10 and they were gonna give me$100 back, yeah. 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:02.079 Yeah. 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:03.279 So have you ever gone down to the card? 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.839 I'm not sure that happens in real life, but I don't think so. 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:12.799 I've never gone to a supermarket, try to buy a gift card, and say, you know what, I want to buy the$25 one, but we put$50 on this one. 00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:16.319 But we're gonna put$50 on, and I'm only still gonna pay that the price. 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.559 So it comes up to lets you choose the price itself. 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:19.519 It's like gambling. 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:22.000 You can just I'll put$50 on that gift card. 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:23.039 Well maybe I'll get it. 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.319 So then you start clicking. 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:28.640 So so I I type in$100 because I'm gonna go for the the the maximum amount. 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:31.680 And then I click next, and the page doesn't go anywhere. 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:32.000 No. 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.400 And then I click next, and the page doesn't go anywhere. 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:34.559 No. 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:38.559 So now so so now this is almost kind of a dumb criminal type of deal. 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.880 So first of all, you shouldn't be clicking on any of these things, right? 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:42.160 Yeah, don't click on anything. 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:42.640 Stop it. 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:43.039 Stop it. 00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:43.839 Don't okay. 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:54.319 So when you do that, but then if you really want to get somebody, you put them in this infinite loop where I didn't know what was happening, and I didn't know if I was gonna get the card or not get the card. 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:55.039 Oh no. 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:56.799 And then it had at the very bottom. 00:23:57.839 --> 00:23:58.480 Do you feel my pain? 00:23:58.720 --> 00:23:59.359 I feel your pain. 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.000 Okay, so then at the very bottom, they had a contact us. 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:07.680 Now you'd figure that they with this type of system, they'd have a contact us with like an email account or something like that. 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.559 I click on the contact us and it goes nowhere either. 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.240 It's just I'm in this loop. 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.119 I I have a hundred dollar gift card, a fifty dollar gift card. 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:15.599 There's a lot of things. 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.799

You know what would be rich, just really funny and rich about this? 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:19.359 What's that? 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:25.119 If this was an actual deal, and because they set up the website so badly, there's nobody calling them. 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:26.400 They're like, I don't understand. 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:29.039 We're trying to give away money and people aren't going for it. 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.279 So I I literally was stuck in a loop. 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:32.559 I got frustrated. 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:40.559 I responded to the email and I said, Hey, I can't get my free gift from an email account that's not a primary email account, and nothing happened. 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.640 So it's just kind of went into the ether. 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:51.119 So probably it was a phishing site where they asked you for something, and somebody got to it sooner before I clicked on it and probably disabled all the functions that it had. 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:52.720 So it was not able to do anything. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:58.000 It's good to know that anthropic's out there fighting for your right to not get scammed. 00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:58.640 Is that what it is? 00:24:58.720 --> 00:24:58.880 Okay. 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:01.039 You think AI made that website? 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:02.400 No, AI didn't make it. 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.000 It was a it was a dumb criminal. 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.200 It was a dumb criminal that that just didn't do it very well. 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:07.759 All right. 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:08.960 Yeah, people are stupid. 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:09.519 Okay. 00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.200 That's the second time he said it. 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:12.880 You need to get a little ding. 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.559 That that is that is that is my that is my uh motto. 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:17.599 For today? 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:18.640 For all days. 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:19.440 For all days. 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:21.680 I'll get a little ding so every time he says it, I'll can mark it. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:23.119 Okay, yeah. 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.039 Yeah, we'll do a drink meter. 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:29.039 Uh every time Mike says people are stupid, everybody has to take a drink. 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:30.000 Take a sip. 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:31.200 We do not have that much alcohol. 00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:32.160 By the end of it. 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:32.559 All right. 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:33.680 What what do you have, Mikey? 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:41.839 I'm sure this is this is probably Yeah, this is a real scary email to get because you know you pay for these things that protect your your computer, right? 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:42.400 Yep. 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.960 Your security protection has expired. 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:46.400 Your user. 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:47.039 Uh-oh. 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:52.319 Your Norton total protection subscription ended on 811. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:53.279 Uh-oh. 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.000 Oh, I see you got this on 811. 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.799 Your devices no longer have active protection. 00:25:58.960 --> 00:25:59.279 Uh-oh. 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:08.880 Without your renewal, your system becomes vulnerable to malware and ransomware attacks, identity theft and phishing threats, unsafe network activity and device performance risks. 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:09.440 Uh-oh. 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:10.720 Guess who sent it? 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.920 Ah, well, who sent it? 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.119 It's gotta be coming from Norton. 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:22.799 But it comes from Desmond.ag E C at siblingfostercarefamilyagency.org. 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:23.279 What? 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:34.319 Oh on behalf of Desmond.ag E C at Echoruntly.com. 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:34.960 All right. 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:38.559 So so you're telling me EchoCarRuntly. 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.680 Ecarruntly. 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:40.000 Yeah. 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.720 E-C-C-A-R-R-U-N-T-L-Y. 00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:45.440 Desmond knows all about at the at the organs. 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.559 Where are you going, Desmond? 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:49.119 At the Siblings Family Agency. 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.279 Sibling Care Foster Family Agency. 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.160 Okay, so they care about my security protection. 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:56.000 Yeah, they're they're really out there looking out for you. 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:56.640 All right. 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.400 Well, they had a link at the you know what? 00:26:58.480 --> 00:26:59.920 They gave me a discount code. 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:00.400 Guess what? 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:01.039 Did they? 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:02.640 Yeah, everybody likes a discount code. 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:04.480 Look at the very bottom of that page. 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:05.359 What does it say there? 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:06.640 Renew now to ensure. 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:07.200 Oh, wait. 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.559 Offer valid until Well, hang on the very bottom here. 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:11.359 What's it say right there? 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:12.559 At the very, very, very bottom. 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:14.400 At the very bottom of the other page. 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:19.440 Keeper protection active and receive a 50% renewal discount. 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:20.640 50% renewal discount. 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:22.880 50% half off. 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:24.799 From a family charity organization. 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:35.839 From a charity organization taking care of my Norton security protocol that I've never used because Norton is the biggest scam of any of these life lock things and any of those items. 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.680 Alright, well, let's go to our final letter here. 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:38.960 Why don't you do it, Mike? 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:40.079 You got another one here that's pretty

good. 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:42.079 Oh, this one's from Robinhood. 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:43.039 Oh, Robinhood. 00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:44.160 Oh, the Robin Hood. 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.960 Yeah, that's that would be that financial app, I guess. 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.319 The contact details change has been approved and activated. 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.599 So I guess they request details. 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:56.000 Okay. 00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:58.480 And approved a new number. 00:27:58.720 --> 00:27:58.960 All right. 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.000 Contact information is now in use on your account. 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:07.119 Didn't make this change, please contact our support team immediately with a number. 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.319 And it's from Fez. 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.160 Well, it has to be from Robinhood, right? 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.039 It came from Robinhood. 00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.319 No, because we got all these watchdogs that are helping us out. 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:16.559 Okay. 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.200 It comes from Fez at hdsservices.com.mx. 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.400 Oh, dot MX. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:22.640 Yes. 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:23.039 Fez. 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:23.920 Fez. 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:25.599 Fez Fez is my buddy. 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:26.799 Fez. 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:27.599 Wasn't he? 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:28.160 What was that? 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:29.599 The 70s show? 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.559 Was that that 70s show that had Fez? 00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:33.119 I don't know. 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:33.759 I don't know. 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:35.519 You guys are so bad. 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:35.920 I know. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.279 I didn't watch that 70s show. 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.000 Uh what? 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.000 Oh, well, you weren't born in the 70s, so I guess I guess that makes sense. 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:43.200 I was born in 73. 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:43.599 Come on. 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:44.559 All right, all right. 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:45.039 I live. 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:45.920 I didn't watch that show. 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.240 Okay. 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:46.559 All right. 00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:46.720 Okay. 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:50.480 At any rate, uh, yeah, Fez, Fez is looking out for you, buddy. 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:51.039 He is. 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:51.279 Okay. 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:52.799 So what happens if I reply to it? 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:53.839 Where does it go to? 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:56.160 Well, I don't know because I don't click on it. 00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:01.599 It goes to customer-90643 at app.robin. 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:03.039 Oh, is that spelled right? 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:05.119 Robinhood.com. 00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:06.880 Yeah, it doesn't go to that site either. 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.160 So that is a scam site. 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.640 Anytime I don't even have a Robinhood account. 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:16.240 So if you're sending me stuff, I mean you're just spitting in the in the dark trying to see people. 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:24.319 But what happens is when you actually have those accounts and you get these emails, you get a whole lot more excited and you go, oh my gosh, I need to take care of this. 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.480 Never ever respond to an email. 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:28.160 Log into your account. 00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:31.680 If you have an account with Robinhood, don't respond to the email. 00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:36.400 Just log into your standard Robinhood account and then see if there's anything that's pending. 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:42.720 If there's nothing that's pending in there, you can contact their customer service line from their site, but that's what you need to do. 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.200 Yeah. 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:43.599 Yeah. 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:45.359 You know why you keep getting these? 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.039 Uh, because I sign up for them. 00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:48.480 So because they work. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:49.119 Yeah, they do work. 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:50.160 You know why they work? 00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:51.839 Because people fill those out. 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:54.400 People are we're gonna talk about this in the Nathan Nugget. 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.319 So we we gotta make sure we get to the Nathan Nugget today. 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:56.720 Okay. 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:58.000 All right, so we're gonna talk all about it. 00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.200 Well, you got anything else there? 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.240 What were you saying, Peyton? 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.680 Sorry, I'm just rereading this. 00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:03.119 Uh, it's top brins. 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:04.160 What's that? 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.279 Not brands, brins. 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:06.640 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.799 Sorry, I just had to re-coup on that. 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.559 Yeah, so when you were reading your thing, you actually corrected it, you auto-corrected it. 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:13.599 I am the AI. 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:14.079 Yes. 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:16.640 Well, yeah, that's that's something that you do. 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.279 That's right. 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:22.960 There's a lot of lot of different ways that your brain translates words as you're reading them. 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:23.279 Yeah. 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:23.680 All right. 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:31.599 In fact, you can take all did you know that you can take all the vowels out and still be able to read something? 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:33.920 Yeah, yeah, you can do that. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.160 All right. 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:35.119 Oh, well, that was our letter. 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:37.039 That was our letter segment. 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.359 Now, let's move on to Mike, the AI guy. 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:46.480 We have

the grumpiest guy in the world coming up! 00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:06.640 All right. 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.839 Well, you know, I feel I felt like I should have been talking about the Daleks here. 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:13.359 You know where the Daleks are. 00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:14.000 Okay. 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:14.799 Doctor Who. 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:15.839 Doctor Who. 00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:16.400 Right? 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:18.160 Exterminate and exterminate. 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:18.640 Okay. 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.400 I I feel bad for you right now. 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.000 You just don't know what I'm talking about. 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.000 I reference things and you have no idea what you're doing. 00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:24.480 I do not. 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:24.880 I do not. 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:25.279 You know what? 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:25.920 You're referenced. 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:27.039 It's not Star Trek. 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:27.519 Yeah, that's right. 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:28.799 Star Trek. 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:31.039 I did. 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:32.160 I said Star Trek. 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:32.559 Okay. 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.279 What do we got? 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.000 All right. 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:41.279 So, you know, today's episode about things I definitely aren't making me more comfortable about AI. 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:41.759 Okay. 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:57.200 Uh so this week, Anthropic released a report showing that his AI assistant Claude has been used by Russian intelligence group, ransomware gangs, disinformation campaigns, and even people exploring biological threat research. 00:31:58.400 --> 00:31:58.799 What? 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.960 Now, before you panic, Anthropic apparently stopped them. 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.480 Oh, is that what they said? 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:05.920 And that's great, apparently. 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.039 Oh, they said that, huh? 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.680 Because there's nothing more reassuring than a company saying, good news we caught some of the bad guys using our technology. 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.640 Oh boy. 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:14.880 Okay. 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:15.599 Some. 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.160 My favorite word in cyber cybersecurity is some. 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:19.599 Yeah, we got some of them. 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:20.400 We got some of them. 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:21.200 We got some of them. 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:22.559 Not all of them, but we stopped them. 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:23.920 We stopped some of them. 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:24.240 Okay. 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:34.240 According to the report, one Russian state sponsored hacking group allegedly used AI to help with reconnaissance and target research, which means we're now living in a world where spies have interns. 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:34.559 Okay. 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:36.960 And really good customer service. 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:37.599

That's right. 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.319 Uh, not human interns, infinite interns. 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.680 Interns that don't sleep and they don't complain, and they never ask if there's free pizza in the break room. 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:47.279 So they're probably going to be. 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.680 Isn't that like a Silicon Valley dream right there that your workers don't complain? 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:54.640 Everybody's dream. 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:55.519 Okay. 00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:01.920 We all think we all have this idea that people that are building businesses do it to help people get jobs. 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:02.559 That's not true. 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.200 Because if they could do the work without people, they would do that. 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:05.599 Okay. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:06.720 So we see that every day. 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:11.519 So now the gangs and cyber criminals are are doing the same thing, so yeah, well, yeah. 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.920 That's kind of that's kind of a non-starter, right? 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.240 We already know who's gonna use this. 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.000 Cyber criminal gangs are using this stuff for research, planning, writing, and analysis. 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.839 At this point, AI has become the most overclaw overqualified employee in organized crime. 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:35.599 The AI companies keep telling us, yeah, yeah, yeah, AI is just a tool that's gonna come and exterminate us one day, but hey. 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.599 And I agree. 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:40.559 I do use it. 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.599 I'm not gonna sit here and say that I don't use AI. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:44.000 Okay. 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.880 But let's not pretend this is a hammer. 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:47.279 Okay? 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:50.319 This is more like a Swiss Army knife with a PhD. 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.720 Access to the entire internet and a healthy desire to be helpful. 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.559 The funniest part is everyone keeps talking about artificial intelligence. 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.279 The real risk might be artificial competence. 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:09.360 For centuries being a criminal required effort, now apparently all you need is a Wi-Fi signal and and some confidence in your typing ability. 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:09.760 Okay? 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.719 Every IA company is the same message. 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.559 We've built guardrails. 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.480 Fantastic. 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.639 Because history shows that humans absolutely love respecting guardrails. 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.199 Nobody has ever ignored a warning label. 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:27.920 Oh no. 00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:29.039 Never. 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.119 Yep. 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.159 That's why your hair dryer has a label on it that says, Don't use this in a shower. 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.360 Or or a bathtub. 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:37.519 Right. 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:38.159 Or a bathtub. 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:39.760 Because people have done it. 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:40.159 Yeah. 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.199 Nobody has ever bypassed a security controller. 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:48.000 Nobody has ever looked at a restriction and thought, hmm, challenge accepted. 00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:53.760 What makes this story interesting isn't that AI is becoming evil, because it is. 00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:01.519 It's that AI is becoming available to everyone, which includes the good guys, the bad guys, and the weird guys. 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:02.719 Let's be honest. 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:09.280 The internet has never exactly struggled to produce weird guys, and cyber criminals are as bad as it gets. 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.679 So the takeaway is I'm not worried that AI will become self-aware. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:16.800 I'm not? 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:18.000 I guess not. 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:18.320 Okay. 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.320 I'm just reading the script, buddy. 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.599 I'm worried that it keeps making humans more efficient. 00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:24.639 No, no. 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.559 I I I uh I don't know if I agree with those statements. 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:34.800 Because if you spend enough time in cybersecurity, you know the scariest thing in technology has never been the machines. 00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:36.480 It's the people using them. 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:37.840 Yeah, I say this all the time, right? 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:38.400 Yep. 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.559 Said before, people are stupid. 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:41.440 Hey, there it is. 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:42.719 There's my call line. 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:43.760 That's it, the third time? 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:44.320 Yep. 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.360 And now those people have a really, really smart assistance. 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.639 Sleep well, everybody. 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.119 Sleep well, everybody. 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.239 Is that how you're is that is that a mic drop? 00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:57.280 Hold on. 00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:58.719 Do they call it a gang? 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.079 It's a cyber gang. 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:01.599 Yeah, but they call it different things. 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.280 Who's calling it a cyber gang? 00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:04.719 Oh, they do it all the time online. 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.920 Like a gang is like people getting together in real life. 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.320 Well, sometimes they do have that and they give themselves names. 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.480 Have you ever watched the movie The Beekeeper? 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:15.360 I have not. 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:16.079 Oh my word. 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.000 But when I say who are you people? 00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.559 When I when you say gang, I think it's a side story. 00:36:22.880 -->

00:36:24.079 Yeah, this is what happens. 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:24.719 Yeah, it's not a good thing. 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:26.800 All these AI guys get together. 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:34.559 All these guys get together with their AI and dance and and and do uh do songs together. 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:36.960 The Jets and the Sharks or whatever that is. 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.159 Oh right, okay. 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.079 Well, you know what, Mike You got that one. 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:40.960 I did get that one. 00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:41.920 How'd that one happen? 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.000 Well, you know, I I'm kind of into the uh uh musicals. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.920 So if you want to ask us musicals, there is something there that just sounds wrong. 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.239 Musicals are acceptable for everyone. 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.079 All right, well, guess what? 00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.199 Now we need to move on to our secret sound. 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.079 Let's see what we got coming up this time. 00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.599 And now for our secret sound, brought to us by Elite Executive Services. 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:13.039 Visit TechTimeradio.com and click on the contact page to submit your answer. 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.119 Odie, play that sound. 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:24.320 All right, do you know what that secret sound is? 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.159 The pot is back at now$55. 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:27.039 I don't know. 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:28.400 Can anybody hear that secret sound? 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:29.920 I think I can hear that secret sound. 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.360 Well, yeah, but I got earphones on. 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:33.760 I can hear it because I got headphones. 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:34.559 But guess what? 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:41.840 The best thing about us being on YouTube and being on a podcast, you can go back and listen to it again and again and again and again. 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:42.480 Live reading. 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.119 I wonder if you can ask AI what the what the secret sound is. 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:46.559 Um you know what you can try. 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:47.920 Maybe jump in there. 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.360 So if you do know what it is, call us at 206-649-6098. 00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:54.800 Talk to us at the studio. 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:56.960 If you want to talk to Mike and I, you can give us a call there. 00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:58.880 We'll we'll glad to have a conversation with you. 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.840 Say Alexa, Shazam the Secret Sound. 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:03.679 There you go. 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.119 Or you can always go online at our new redesigned website. 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.800 I don't know how many more times I can say that. 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.119 Redesigned website at techtimeradio.com. 00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.000 Say it once more. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.280 Well, you can visit us at our new

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00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:57.840 Did you back rub that recently? 00:41:58.880 --> 00:41:59.599 You got it. 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.159 Did you do the same story?com day. 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:03.920 Did you do the same story? 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:04.480 Yeah. 00:42:04.960 -->

00:42:05.760 Okay, perfect. 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.559 Okay, perfect. 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:07.199 Okay, there you go. 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.599 There you go. 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.159 So that's what September 15th is all about, huh? 00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:11.039 Yeah, it's about Google. 00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:12.239 I got back rubbed. 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:13.280 You got back rubbed. 00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:14.000 Just think of that. 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:15.199 Go back rub it. 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:16.239 Put that on a shirt. 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:16.480 Yeah. 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:16.880 Yeah. 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:22.880 So today marks the registration of Google.com back in 1997. 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:23.760 Yes. 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:28.559 And as you guys mentioned before that, they were called Backrub, which thankfully did not stick. 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:35.440 So Google itself came from a misspelling of Google, the number one, followed by 100 zeros. 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:36.320 There you go. 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.679 Proving that occasionally a typo can work out pretty well. 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.760 Although I would not recommend Nathan using that as an excuse on the radio show. 00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.719 Yeah, Nathan doesn't need those excuses. 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.239 He just vomits the I I don't think Google it's going to be around for 10 years. 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.880 I mean, right now that was kind of the saying, hey, just go Google it. 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.440 I actually can I it'll be go chat GPT. 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.000 It's part of the national zeit ice, it's not going away. 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:00.559 I don't know. 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:01.360 Zero X. 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.519 Have you seen the new ChatGPT commercials? 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:07.679 They're all over online with the old lady talking to the to the deal as a friend. 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:09.440 She's like, Oh, hi, what can I call you? 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:10.960 Call me Chat GPT. 00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:17.519 And she asks about yarning questions and a bunch of turns to the camera and goes, We're coming to get you. 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.039 It's gonna be all right. 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:20.880 Continue on, Mark. 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:30.239 All right, so and since Google later created Google X to experiment with moonshot ideas, it's only fitting we move to Penelope Project X. 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:30.960 Oh, I see that. 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:36.480 Where the experiments involve old French cognac barrels instead of a self-driving cars. 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.599 And old is definitely the right word here. 00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.000 This bourbon was finished in an authentic 1964 cognac barrel. 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:48.639 Meaning the barrel predates Google.com by thirty three years. 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:54.800 So at sixty two years sixty two years old, this barrel is technically old enough to rethink about retirement. 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.360 Yeah, this is older than older than me. 00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:59.679 Yes, older than all of us. 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:00.639 I will say. 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:02.079 Let me just throw that out. 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:02.639 Okay. 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.320 Well, we'll just get on the same page. 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:20.159 Now, cognac is a grape-based brandy from the cognac region of France, and finishing bourbon in one of its barrels can add richer fruit, floral sweetness, dried grape, and spice notes to the traditional caramel and oak of standard bourbon. 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.599 Now, for me, I enjoy this one quite a bit. 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.639 Which stands which stands out differently is how what the cognac barrel makes it. 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:34.480 There's a rich fruitiness, the sweetness layered over the bourbon, makes the pour interesting from beginning to end. 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:41.760 It is a little unusual, and I can absolutely see it not being for everyone, especially if you want that traditional bourbon taste. 00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:43.760 I've tasted it out to lots of people. 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:46.320 Some have loved it, some haven't. 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:55.199 When I first tasted it, I was so so on it, and then I kept kind of drinking it, and then it became my nightly pour, and I almost finished that bottle in a week. 00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.119 It was just crappy. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:57.840 That's good. 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:03.280 Now for$65, I appreciate that Penelope took that chance and gave us something different. 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:08.480 Project X feels like the right name, experimental, and for me, this one worked, as we mentioned. 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.559 If you want a bottle and you're in the Seattle area, go visit Lee at QFC Renton. 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.440 He is the one that picked it out, and it's only at his store. 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.639 Wasn't Project X a Wolverine thing? 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:21.440 Uh I don't know. 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:26.159 You know, speaking of Wolverine, they just had the new like rated R version of Wolverine hit the PlayStation. 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.639 So I yeah, maybe we're all coming back together. 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.840 You know, sometimes I marvel at the way you connect things in your brain. 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:32.400 Do you see that? 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:33.840 Yeah, it's a little scary sometimes. 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:35.679 You don't actually answer. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.000 You're like a politician, but answer wrong. 00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:39.280 What's that? 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:43.840 We're just gonna start naming everything America in New Mexico, New America. 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:45.119 I'm sorry. 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.880 Can I get that one more time, Mike? 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:47.840 He's like a what? 00:45:47.920 -->

00:45:51.440 I said he's like a politician, but his answers are always wrong. 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:56.159 Have you seen the new South Park uh commercial about renaming South Park? 00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.719 No, I you know, no, you gotta watch it. 00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.360 It's pretty funny. 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.320 We live, we we live in a world of delusion anyway. 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:03.679 All right, okay. 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:07.599 Well I'm going to I'm going to pack up and move to Nathan Land. 00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:08.320 All right. 00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:10.239 Back to you, Nathan America. 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:10.719 All right. 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:12.159 Well, Nathan America. 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:12.960 Well, you know what? 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:15.199 Mark, whiskey and technology are such a great pairing. 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.199 The NFL season kickoff weekend this last weekend and gambling ads on every commercial break. 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:35.199 Now, I can I don't know who else advertises between BetMGM, FanDuel, DraftKings, Caesar Sportsbook, Polymarket, there is no other commercial every once in a while that gets bumped with a beer commercial. 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:36.719 Everything is gambling. 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:37.360 I don't know. 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:42.239 And then at the very bottom, they say, if you have a gambling addiction, please contact us. 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:48.480 Clearly, all of America has a gambling addiction if every one of these things can exist. 00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:52.800 I actually feel left out because are you doing a PSA right now? 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:53.360 Are you drinking? 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:56.239 What's going on? 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:58.239 I only do the fantasy football stuff. 00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.599 So this is good. 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.679 Wow, Nathan coming from Nathan. 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:02.079 Wow. 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.480 Yeah, he does this weird matchup and then he goes into a PSA about not gambling. 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:07.599 That's how his brain works, right? 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.920 Circle September 15th for Nathan. 00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:10.320 Again. 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:11.119 There we go. 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:11.760 Okay. 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:12.719 Well, yeah, there you go. 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.119 All right. 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.280 Well, now let's prepare for our technology fail of the week. 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.239 You guys are gonna love this. 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.639 Brought to you by Elite Executive Services. 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:22.320 Congratulations. 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:23.840 You're a failure. 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:25.679 Oh, I failed. 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:26.239 Did I? 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:26.960 Yes. 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:27.920 Did I? 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:28.639 Yes. 00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:29.280 All right. 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.719 Well, for this week's technology fail, we're heading to the beautiful state of Florida. 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:41.679 All right, the Florida DMV, not just because they got hacked, but because they got hacked the old-fashioned way. 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:58.719 According to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, attackers accessed the state's David, a D A V I D driver database, using credentials from the police department account that had been improperly stored on an employee's personal computer device. 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.360 The breach is leaked to claims by Shiny Hunters, a cyber uh crime group. 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:04.880 See, there's a gang name for you. 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:09.599 Yeah, which has stole more than 200,000 driver records. 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:17.119 These records included your tickets, your driving history, how you passed your test, where to send the registrations to. 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:25.840 But when you think about it, we spend billions of dollars on cybersecurity, AI threat detection, zero trust, advanced monitoring, quantum resistant encryption. 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:28.880 And then somebody leaves the keys on a personal device. 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.800 It's like installing a bank vault door and then hiding the combination under the welcome mat at the entrance of the bank. 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.760 The lesson sometimes the biggest cybersecurity vulnerability isn't a nation state hacker. 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.000 This is how most hacking is done, though. 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:43.760 It's Derek, the human. 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:44.559 It's Derek. 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:45.760 And what do we think about this? 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:46.639 Derek. 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:47.119 Oh no. 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:48.079 What is Derek? 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.760 Derek is Derek, you have to go to HR to talk about the back ropes. 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:52.480 All right. 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:59.920 Putting information on his personal tablet and then clicking on a fishing link and exposing it to the cyber criminals online. 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.400 Derek obviously does not listen to our letter. 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:03.199 He does not. 00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:04.079 Bad Derek. 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:05.679 Don't click on stuff, Derek. 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:06.480 There you go. 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:07.360 You know what? 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.960 Now we we got to continue the the triad going on here with cyber criminals. 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.280 Let's now move to the Nathan Nugget of the Week. 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.000 This is your nugget of the week. 00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.400 Well, today we're talking about cyber criminals. 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.639 No, criminals steal something much more valuable. 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.800 They steal your trust than friendship or partnership. 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:29.760 Are you serious? 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:30.400 The U.S.

00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:31.679 just distributed. 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:32.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:33.679 So yep, here we go. 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:34.079 The U.S. 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:46.559 just distributed Shenbi Guarantee, a massive criminal marketplace tied to more than$30 billion in transactions and countless pig butchering scams. 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:48.960 Now, have you heard of a pig butchering scam? 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:49.679 No, I don't know. 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:50.159 All right. 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.920 So if you've never heard of the term pige or pig or pidge. 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.599 Pig butchering, it's exactly as awful as it sounds. 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:01.519 The scammer spends weeks, sometimes months building a relationship with someone. 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:03.199 They text with them every day. 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:07.599 They ask about their family, they become a friend, a mentor, and sometimes even a romantic interest. 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.360 Then one day they introduce an amazing investment opportunity. 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:17.519 The victim invests a little, sees fake profits, invests more, and eventually loses everything. 00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:20.159 That's why this story hits differently. 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.320 This isn't a cyber attack against a company. 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:31.199 It's a story about lonely people, retirees, widows, and everyday folks who f thought that they had found someone online that really cared about them. 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.480 Instead, they found a scammer with a script. 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:45.760 And according to investigators, marketplaces like Should Be Guarantee helped make these scams easier by selling everything criminals needed from fake investment sites to money laundering services. 00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.559 Turns out criminals figures how to weaponize all of it. 00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:51.920 All of this was on Telegram. 00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:52.800 Just copy that. 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:58.960 You can literally go into Shouldn't be Guarantee's Telegram page and ask for these services, and they would provide you these services. 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:02.159 Come on down to Should be where prices are insane. 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:03.679 Well, here's the nugget. 00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.480 Be careful of the people online who seem too perfect. 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.480 Real relationships take time. 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:16.239 Real investments don't require urgency, and your soulmate probably isn't teaching you crypto trading three days after saying hello. 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:22.239 Sometimes the biggest cybersecurity threat isn't a hacker, it's someone who knows exactly what you want to hear. 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.800 I got some tips about dealing with folks like this. 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:29.679 When I was computer dating, I got these all the time. 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:30.320 Okay. 00:51:30.880 -->

00:51:35.840 And the best way, the best way of doing it is just know that they're not real. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:36.320 Okay. 00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:41.280 And then say stuff that they have to agree with. 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:46.960 And then keep them on until they just get so frustrated that they stop emailing you. 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:47.519 Okay. 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:48.960 So that's indeed the way to do it. 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:50.000 It's really fun. 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:50.880 It's really fun. 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:57.599 I kept a scammer going for three days about the the card scam. 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.599 It was a card scam where they they uh ask you for a Walmart card. 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:02.880 Okay, you're like a card. 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:05.039 Okay. 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.440 And I was like, hey, I've got ten thousand dollars. 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:08.800 I can just send you a card right now. 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.360 Because they give you this this little sob story about it. 00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:20.239 Oh, I I I'm an American, I'm a nurse, I was I was sent to Afghanistan, and now I'm stranded here in Afghanistan. 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.760 I I need I need money to get back to the States and I love you, and all this other they do this whole big shtick. 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.400 Yeah. 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:34.480 And I kept this one going for three days by saying, Oh, I can s I can send you a ten thousand dollars Walmart card. 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:40.159 And they're like, No, no, I don't want a ten, I just need I just need ten dollars for a hundred bucks or something. 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:40.719 Right? 00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:41.519 Yeah. 00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:46.320 And they kept up with me for three days, and then I got a F you. 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.320 Oh no, then they then they swear at you. 00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:49.280 I always find it interesting. 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:51.679 Yeah, they get all mad at you. 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.679 They get mad because you're wasting their time. 00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:54.639 Yeah, well, you know what? 00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.440 Now we need to move, which is not wasting our time. 00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.760 Our pick of the day, whiskey tastings. 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.360 And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.719 Let's see what bubbles to the top. 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.039 All right, what do we have here, Mark? 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:18.480 We are drinking the Penelope Project X, finished in a 1964 cognac barrel finish from MGP. 00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:24.400 Um, non-age stated, 111 proof, undisclosed mash bill,$65. 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.480 Yeah, I'm gonna I mean I 65. 00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:28.239 Actually, I'd probably pay more for this. 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:29.840 I'm absolutely a thumbs up. 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.440 I really would not pay this. 00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:33.519 That statement is not a Nathan statement. 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:35.119 $40 is like where he caps off. 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:36.079 He's like$40 is it. 00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.239 Oh, this is you are an AI scam. 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.400 What do you mean I'm not the real Nathan? 00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.559 You are not the no that never never did that come out of Nathan Mike. 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:45.280 I love you. 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.760 I will pay more dollars, please. 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:48.400 Okay. 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:49.840 I will pay more for this. 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:50.400 No way. 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:51.119 A thumbs up. 00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:52.000 I'm giving a thumbs up. 00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.280 What do you what are you giving here, Mike? 00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:55.440 Uh yeah, I'm gonna give it a thumbs up too. 00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:00.320 It it had a really kind of weird uh finish, but I liked it. 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.039 You liked it. 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:08.000 All right, Mark, this is I would say I would say it's a different finish, and at first it caught me off guard, but then after a while, I love it. 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.280 It's so different, it's delicious and so different than anything else out there. 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:17.039 Yeah, I wasn't expecting it when it when I first tasted it, so it took me a few sips to get over it. 00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:23.199 Yeah, and I say, Nathan, next time you go down to IKEA, it's not that far to pop over to grab a bottle of this. 00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:24.719 Yes, he knows they shop out of the way. 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.920 Go get some meatballs and then go and get some new fruit. 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.000 That's where Mark and I, hey, Mark and I met up at IKEA. 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:32.719 So let me just tell you. 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:35.920 We found each other at IKEA. 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:39.360 We knew each other already, wasn't it? 00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:40.239 We just happened to be there. 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:41.199 No, no, no, no, no. 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:42.000 We knew each other already. 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.199 This is the title, this is the title of his new romance comedy. 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.239 Is it IKEA? 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:47.440 Yeah, Ike the Ikea. 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:48.639 I met you at IKEA. 00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:49.840 I found you in IKEA. 00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.000 I found you, I found you in the meatballs. 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:53.119 The meatballs. 00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:53.519 All right. 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.559 It's hard to find anything at IKEA within that store. 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:57.199 It is. 00:54:57.360 --> 00:54:59.360 And then you have to go pick it out yourself. 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:00.400 Let alone store. 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:01.679 Let alone a good friend. 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:03.280 It's a whole thing, you know. 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:09.119 You you go there, you get confused while you're there, you buy something, and then you come home and get confused while you're trying to build it. 00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:10.480 It's a confusing stuff. 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:11.920 And you got the whiskey to help on the side. 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:16.159 And they and they give you meatballs to make you think that everything's cool. 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.000 And they don't write They're hackers. 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:20.079 They don't write any instructions. 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.559 All right, Mike and Mark, we're about out of time. 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.519 From all of us at Tech Time Radio. 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:26.079 Remember. 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.079 You can find us on backgrub. 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:30.480 Back rub us. 00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.320 Oh, you can back rub us at any time. 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:36.000 Remember, the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:37.119 See you next week. 00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:38.000 Later. 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:39.199 Bye-bye. 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.800 Thanks for joining us on Tech Time Radio. 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:48.400 We hope that you had a chance to have that hmm moment today in technology. 00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:49.920 The fun doesn't stop there. 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:59.280 We recommend that you go to techtimeradio.com and join our fan list for the most important aspect of staying connected and winning some really great monthly prizes. 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:07.679 We also have a few other ways to stay connected, including subscribing to our podcast on any podcast service, from Apple to Google and everything in between. 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:09.039 We're also on YouTube. 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:15.039 So check us out on youtube.comslash techtime radio, all one word. 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:18.079 We hope you enjoyed the show as much as we did making it for you. 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:21.679 From all of us at Tech Time Radio, remember Mum's the Word. 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:23.360 Have a safe and fantastic week.