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Yeah. 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:03.280 The catastrophes, catastrophes. 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:04.719 Ooh, catastrophes? 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:06.079 Catastrophes hit all of us. 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:06.879 You have a stroke. 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:11.039 We were in the catastrophe. 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:20.159 I I was still on vacation having a good time, and y'all got back from vacations and just the whole world fell apart. 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:36.639 Yeah, I had um I had a our house was hit by lightning um about almost two weeks ago, and um it's been uh very hectic trying to get all the contractors set up, trying to get everybody out, and um really getting things situated and uh and done. 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.240 But it's it's kind of rough for us. 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.560 We've had a crazy uh few weeks. 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:43.599 Um, like lighting in our house was melting. 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.919 It was just it was really nutty, nutty time. 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:51.280 Yeah, that right there just proves that my parents were right when I was a kid about don't be in the shower and a thunderstorm. 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:53.520 I still don't do that. 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.360 I I'm I'm paranoid now. 00:02:56.080 --> 00:03:02.080 My grandmother would make my parents go to bed or make my dad go to bed, him and his siblings, whatever it was thunderstorming outside. 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.840 It's thunder and y'all better go to bed. 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:06.639 2 p.m. 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:08.080 That's a good excuse. 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:09.439 I'm gonna start using that. 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:11.039 Oh, and it's Florida. 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.479 It's a hurricane sleep the whole week. 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:14.879 Oh, yeah. 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:16.960 Tell my wife she's gotta go to bed. 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.599 Um lightning struck your house. 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:22.000 Yeah. 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.000 How did you see the Lord work through that? 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.199 Because that's well, so honestly, it was very difficult. 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:34.800 Um, I I kind of you know had a little breakdown um with it with it happening, just all of everything at once, you know. 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.360 You know, we we have a lot on our plate. 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:45.599 I think all of us as um as parents and uh people who go to work full-time, you know, we have a lot going on, a lot of stuff uh mentally that you're dealing with. 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.199 And I literally broke down. 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.280 Um luckily I had my wife there, and um, she was a god sent. 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:58.400 Uh she uh kind of helped me through it and was like, hey, look at the bright side, we're safe, you know, nobody's injured, everybody's good. 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:00.080 We still have a home over our head. 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.879 And uh so like that's the positives to look at it. 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:10.400 And then um how I saw God working through this is that the insurance company has actually been very well to work with. 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:20.480 They've been kind of on point on who do I need to call, who do I need to talk to, on sending people out as well, kind of getting everything treated and uh figured out what the damages were. 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:23.279 It it went really uh actually well. 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:24.079 So awesome. 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.560 So who do you say was here first, Jesus or State Farm? 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.839 Oh, definitely Jesus. 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:28.639 Okay, that's good. 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:29.519 State Farm or South Farm. 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:30.639 Close second. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:31.680 State farm. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:32.959 What about you at Mim? 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.120 I had uh yeah, as soon as we came back. 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.240 Well, it's been going on before the cruise uh that I went on. 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:49.439 Um, but when as soon as I got back, the day we got back, we were gonna take our dog who's just been we thought he was struggling with a back injury, and we got him treated, and it was not getting any better. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:05:00.800 So we ended up taking him to the like a veterinary hospital, and he ended up having a autoimmune disorder that was causing brain swelling down to the brain stem. 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:15.759 And it was uh crazy deal because it was it went from we just got a he's got like a pinched nerve, he just hurt his back somehow to they told us one day after we dropped him off, they called us and said it's not looking really good. 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:30.319 And to the point where and this is it's it's been a huge deal for us, but he uh the doctor said he came out of the MRI, but he's paralyzed from the neck down, he has no motor function, and this is normally when you have to put dogs down. 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.720 And they think this is from a bacterial infection? 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:34.319 No, so that just came back clear. 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:42.399 They think it's just a random autoimmune thing that just they don't really fully understand the inner workings of it, but it's just kind of something you can't prevent. 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.120 I'd say that sounded like a dog meningitis or something like that. 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:45.839 That is weird. 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:46.560 Yeah. 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:55.519 But he ended up that this it was a crazy deal because we uh we mentally had said this is he's not gonna make it. 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.519 Obviously, he's uh what they just told us, he's like he's probably not gonna make it. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.199 He is alive, but he's paralyzed. 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.040 He has he has no gag reflex, so he can't eat or drink on his own right now. 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:11.600 And we were literally, I was texting

everybody, I was like, Y'all just pray because this is a it's it's not looking great. 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:16.480 And it was like 30 minutes later they called back and said, Murph just jumped off the bed. 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.240 We don't really know why, but he's he's peeing and drinking and eating right now. 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:21.839 Um all over the floor. 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:22.639 Yeah. 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.120 No, but that was a turn of events. 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:26.160 Yeah, it was a crazy deal. 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.079 So that was it was good for us to see you know, it was good to see the Lord do that. 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.800 Where y'all took him is a pretty liberal area. 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:44.800 Um so a lot of a lot of beliefs typically, you know, not Christian, not believing in God, not any of that, especially medical field. 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:49.600 It's hard to find people really who are um gonna trust that the Lord has performed a miracle. 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.519 They're just gonna say, Oh, we just don't know what happened. 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:53.120 So, what did they say in that regard? 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:53.439 Yeah. 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:54.560 Do they have an explanation? 00:06:54.800 --> 00:07:08.160 No, so the neurologist said she told us multiple times at when it happened, and then when we came back in to actually get Murph, our dog, she was like, I we don't really I wasn't expecting him to get up and we don't know why he did. 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.160 And what what did your wife say? 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:24.480 Well, so they uh they were texting us uh updates and the nursing staff texted and said or no, she was calling and they were giving uh an update, and the nursing staff said, Yeah, it kind of it kind of felt like a miracle back there. 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.519 And sh my my wife said it definitely was a miracle. 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.199 We were all praying the moment it happened, and they didn't respond back. 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:40.879 And uh, but it was like like I said, that for us we we know and we know that on their side of it, they're like uh it seems like it was a miracle, but obviously not. 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.279 But they don't happen, yes, yeah. 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:47.279 It was a crazy. 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:49.279 That was a uh what did I say it was? 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:56.160 Uh a catastrophic it wasn't a catastrophe, he didn't die, it's just catastrophe. 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.160 Yes, right up to the end of the word. 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:07.920 I I was on vacation still when it was going on for y'all, and so here I am praying for y'all, then I was wondering praying for Sean. 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:15.279 Um and I've made it a habit when somebody's asking, especially somebody I know and love, right? 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:21.600 But anyway, if they've asked me specifically, like, hey, please pray, I don't want to give

it that blanket, like, yes, of course. 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:23.120 And then I don't, yeah. 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.319 So I in that moment, second I think about it, like I'm praying. 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.279 And I a couple times, random family like, is Blake asleep sitting up? 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.519 And I'm like, no, I'm praying, leave me alone. 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:42.480 Like, yeah, um, so it just it's it's not that Murph was healed just because I was praying, but it could have been. 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.279 Yeah, there's uh there's a world where that is what happened. 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:48.559 I fasted while I prayed, and then I went and ate something else. 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.039 So I was not eating and praying at the same time. 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:51.519 There you go. 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:52.240 Perfect. 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:55.919 I um I thank goodness the Lord's been good. 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.200 We haven't had anything go on. 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.200 I will say I do have a funny story for y'all. 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.519 Coming, it's like nothing happened on vacation. 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.840 I was like, oh man, I have nothing cool and funny to say whenever we come back for our next podcast sesh. 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:14.960 However, on the way back from we went, we stayed at a hotel on the way up, got young kids, cannot travel to like West Virginia back in the day. 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:16.000 There's no way. 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:22.399 So luckily to my with my job, I have hotel points out you know, out the door. 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:28.159 So I uh book it with points, book the hotel, it's not not an issue. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.279 It's like 28,000 on the way up, which is still kind of high. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.440 That's like downtown, big city, Atlanta, wherever I could stay with those points. 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.519 So it kind of caught me off guard, middle of nowhere. 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:42.399 On the way back, however, it was 58,000 points for one night. 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:44.480 And so I'm like, good lord, what the heck? 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:45.440 They said they have one room left. 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:46.720 So I went ahead and booked it. 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.759 My grandmother and great aunt were staying with us as well. 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.559 So I get the desk and we get there like 11 o'clock at night. 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:53.440 Purple butt's full. 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:56.480 And so I asked Lady of his desk, I was like, hey, what's going on? 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:01.279 Why is it so like, why is it packed and why is it so expensive to be here middle of nowhere? 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.200 She tells me, Oh, we're having a Jehovah's Witness convention in town. 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.200 I said, They have conventions? 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.320 And she said, Yes. 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:10.720 I said, We're a point goucher. 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.039 Yeah, and I said, and they're staying here. 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:14.159 And she goes, Yeah. 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.480 I said, I didn't see any bikes outside. 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.639 She said, What do you mean? 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.000 I said, Bikes. 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:21.200 I didn't see any bikes outside. 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:22.000 She started laughing. 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:23.759 She's like, Oh no, they all drove in cars. 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.120 I said, Oh, so they're cheating. 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:26.159 That's not real. 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:27.279 They're not serious. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:29.759 Yeah, I said, I expect to see four-seater bikes outside. 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:30.720 The whole family came. 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.919 Wait till the world finds out how they mean. 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.240 Yeah, let her know they're cheating. 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:39.200 Um, they ride their bike and a car picks them up around the corner. 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.200 Yeah, they pedal for the Lord. 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:47.519 So we uh we're sitting here talking, and I told her I said, Well, thank you so much. 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.320 She said, Yeah, they've been trying to convert me all day. 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:52.559 And I said, Well, thanks for letting me know. 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.600 I'll make sure to double check through my peep pulp, so my knocks on my door for my hotel. 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.559 But um that was crazy. 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.720 And I was just talking about my job and y'all grinned. 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:06.159 I've had like we just said people kind of make fun of me for not being able to talk about my job. 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:07.120 It's really not interesting. 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.879 I've told y'all it's in construction. 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:16.000 Um, but for big companies that don't want me to talk about technically who I work for doesn't exist. 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.480 So it's it's just legal stuff, really. 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:27.840 But I think someone who's probably really generally confused by what I do is our neighbor because he knows that I travel out of town for long periods of time. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.600 Like here I am gone, weird, weird hours, weird times. 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:32.960 Are you actually an assassin? 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:34.799 Well, that's that's what I'm wondering. 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:44.559 So, like where we live in the South, I'm a I don't know, I don't think it's a big deal if somebody walks outside with a firearm, right? 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:47.120 If they're on their property, it's not a really big deal. 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.200 I carry firearms with me wherever I go just to be safe. 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:56.799 So I have to change them depending on where I'm traveling to, because what states allow and all that kind of stuff. 00:11:57.120 -->

00:12:02.240 Where I was traveling this time, I was bringing my short-barreled long rifle. 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:09.360 I'm not gonna say the specific name, I don't want to get canceled, but that's what I that's what I'm carrying with me along with my concealed carry, just in case things get hot and heavy. 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.840 Well, I keep it in a get home bag. 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.080 That bag was in my wife's car at the my parents' house next one over. 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:17.279 I'm gonna go say bye to them. 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:22.320 So I'm carrying out my rifle from the house to put in the truck to go put in the bag. 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.960 As I'm doing so, I've got my concealed carry sticking out of my pants. 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:32.639 I've got my SBR that's just out with a sling and all that stuff. 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:34.320 And my neighbor pulls up in the driveway. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:37.120 Hey, uh, Blake, any trash you need off? 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.559 Because you know, good old neighbors. 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.879 And I said, Oh, yes, sir, yeah, I'll give you some. 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.879 He's like, uh, I'm oblivious to the fact that I've got firearms in my hand. 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.840 And he's like, What you uh what you doing? 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.480 And I said, I'm just loading up, getting ready to go to work. 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:53.360 And he said, Oh yeah, again. 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.840 I said, Yeah, I'm gonna be gone for a week. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.879 I was like, My neighbor is a contract killer. 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:00.320 I wasn't even thinking. 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:02.879 He asked no more questions. 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:04.320 He got the trash and left. 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.480 And I didn't think about it until I was riding to where I was going, and I was like, I can't believe I said that. 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:09.759 I've got all my firearms in my hand. 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.200 He doesn't want to be your friend anymore. 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.360 Yeah, I mean, he's afraid not to be your friend. 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:17.759 He can walk out the yard and his underwear all he wants. 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:18.799 Don't say anything. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:21.840 So yeah, no, that was fine. 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.720 I thought about that and I was like, that is way too silly. 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.720 He probably thinks I'm you can look at me. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:28.080 Look, I kill a sweet. 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.399 Yeah, we um for our vacation, we went down to uh St. 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:33.360 Pete area. 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.919 We were on the uh on the Gulf, I guess Gulf of America is what it's called now. 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:38.399 America. 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:39.200 America. 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:41.279 And uh we were there for 4th of July. 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:42.080 We had a great time. 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.159 The water was crystal clear, we saw dolphins and some type of a whale. 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:46.879 Porpoises. 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.080 It was a porpoise fish. 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:50.799 And uh it was really cool. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:51.600 We had a good time. 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.559 Uh kids got super tan, I got burnt. 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:55.759 It was all good. 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:56.639 Yeah. 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:57.039 Yep. 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.960 MM went down to Mexico. 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:03.440 Yes, watched uh Luchalore fight with the it was great. 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.679 Did you wear like a Nacho Libre mask? 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.679 We got I bought one and they gave me one. 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:10.639 So the next podcast, you won't be able to see it, but I'll be wearing it. 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:13.440 Yeah, it was fun. 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.200 Well, today we want to talk about discipleship. 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:22.159 Um we kind of went back and forth on what the third episode should be. 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:27.600 Um, I understand that somebody who is not a Christian supplies not going to church like, oh, discipleship want to turn off the podcast. 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:29.120 I encourage you not to. 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:41.600 Um, in the event that you do find yourself wanting to go to a church, or um, maybe you went to a church, maybe you went there for a couple weeks or this or that, and decided, like, oh, I didn't really feel anybody connected, nobody reached out to me. 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:42.799 Then you need to hear this. 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:46.559 You need to know what the church is supposed to be doing. 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:54.480 Um, I think we found where a lot of churches now and the church as a whole is kind of getting away from discipleship, which is a core of what a church should be doing. 00:14:54.799 --> 00:15:03.120 And all they're focused on is having a mass amount of people say, I'm a Christian, I accept Jesus, and then they leave them and they don't further that faith. 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:10.080 Um, and so yeah, of course it makes sense if you went to church and they didn't try and disciple you that you felt what's next. 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:13.679 Yeah, church church attendance alone doesn't produce maturity, right? 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.519 It it's uh all about your daily abiding in Christ. 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:22.480 Like what is that, what does that look like in your life and uh and and also in your church? 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:28.240 Church attendance does not re it's not reciprocated how you say that reciprocating? 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.120 No, uh reciprocated uh receptacle. 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:32.000 Receptacle. 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.240 Uh that it's not the same, right? 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:39.120 Today words are not uh are they the Olympians can't speak? 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:42.159

We're not the smartest people in the world. 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:45.600 Oh no. 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:57.360 No, and and what what we see a lot is uh is Christians want that fruit, but they don't want to have the deep roots first to produce the fruit. 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:58.960 And that's where we need to start. 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.120 We need to start where how are we rooted? 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:12.639 Um the church I used to go to when I was in high school, uh, they had a college ministry, like there it was called Rooted, and uh they went over this and with their young their young people. 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:14.639 That was probably 10 plus years ago. 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.480 Um, and that that was like something that's always stuck with me as a Christian now. 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:21.519 It's like, what are you like what are you rooted in? 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:27.039 If you come to church, you listen to the message, it's great. 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:31.600 I hope you're taking notes and I hope it you know soaks in. 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:37.600 But at the same time, Jesus preached a good amount of sermons in his couple years of ministry. 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:40.399 A lot of them, but most of them famous, right? 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.240 Large crowd, large crowds, thousands and thousands of people. 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:51.519 You can talk, nobody talks about the miracle of how thousands of people could hear him just fine without you know, micro equipment or nothing like that, right? 00:16:51.759 --> 00:17:12.160 So um he chose 12 people to disciple, 12 people to pour into, 12 people to say, Hey, I am like you're not only here for Sundays, you're not only here for my messages, I'm going to teach you how to apply this to your life at a daily, livable level, which is great. 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:18.160 I mean, I'm sure my relationship with the Lord would be way better if I lived with my pastor every day. 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:18.640 Right? 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:22.559 If my pastor was there with me every day to be like, hey, have you read your Bible today? 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:22.880 Yeah. 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:24.880 Hey, how's your prayer doing right now? 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.359 Like, hey, what's going on in your life? 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.759 And how have you brought that before the Lord? 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:30.319 Right. 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:42.400 So discipleship is a personal day-to-day walk that you should be having with someone who is older and more mature in the faith, um, that they are able to help you live out your life and bring you closer to the Lord. 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:44.160 Because your pastor's not gonna be able to be there every day. 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:44.480 Yeah. 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:56.880 And to and to be fair, if you're what if you're starting discipleship, which I guess I'm getting ahead of myself, if you're gonna start discipleship with somebody, it needs to

start with a pastor discipling some men, and not a very big group. 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.599 I would say probably not getting over 10. 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:00.160 You know what I mean? 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:06.400 Six or seven seem seemed to be the best uh the best group for us for our setting. 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:07.759 How dare you use those numbers? 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:16.000 Uh you know, as soon as I said that, I looked to my left and saw Elijah doing the uh the hand signals over there. 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.839 Um no, so like we that's kind of how it was for us. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:30.319 Um when I first got into this the student ministry, um, the youth pastor that we have, um, he at our church or our local church here, and uh he he started that, right? 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:38.559 We have we had like seven people, seven guys who want to get invested and who want to dive deeper into their faith. 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:47.359 And um that we we walked through uh a book series um through um I forget what it's called, but it it's blanking me now. 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.799 But Robert uh Gallady is the author on the growing up series, yeah. 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:51.920 It's the growing up series. 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.119 So it's you have growing up firmly planted and bearing fruit. 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:57.519 Yeah. 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:02.079 And that was uh very, very um interesting to actually read. 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:19.440 Obviously, I was saved when I came over here to our church, and it was uh kind of breathtaking to see what it truly looked like because I never saw what it what true discipleship is or was until I came here to our church that we're currently at. 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:23.519 Discipleship plays a big role um in people's lives. 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:33.519 And if it if you haven't been discipled, um obviously you need to be talking to church staff and and and people about entering into that relationship. 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:43.519 Um I uh so I found in in Proverbs 20, verse 6, many a person proclaims his own loyalty, but who can find a trustworthy person? 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:48.880 I find that funny because uh I was reading a book, I picked it up, it was it was better as an audiobook. 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:49.839 I have a hard time reading. 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:51.920 I count audiobooks as red books. 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:52.960 Yep, you read it. 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:54.720 I I did, I consider that. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.119 Um if I can read and do the dishes at the same time, yeah, right? 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:02.720 Um for me, it's all these long drives that I get to listen to them. 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.000 But read them. 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.680 I read Dietrich von Hoeffer's The Cost of Discipleship. 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:12.400 Um, I read into before I read this book, like who he was and what he did. 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.839 I'm not as well read as other people I know. 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:18.079 Um amazing story. 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:19.759 So I was like, I've got to read this guy's book. 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:23.039 So I read his book and he has so much cool stuff. 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:32.480 Um, one of the things he talked about was could the church bring spiritual oppression or tyranny to many by telling them what must be believed or performed in order to be saved? 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:33.920 That is a big outlook. 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:43.839 A lot of people do look at churches and say, are these people really just a group, a cult going through and saying, you know, you're going to hell, turn or burn, and they're just trying to control my life. 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:50.319 I can easily see that being a perspective, looking from the outside in, saying, I think they're just trying to control me. 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:52.319 They're just trying to tell me what I can and can't do. 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:53.759 They're trying to be my parents, right? 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:54.799 And I'm a grown adult. 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:58.960 I think that's a big stigma that we get is the uh, oh, you're you're just about rules. 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:00.880 Well, it is also how people act. 00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:01.279 Yeah. 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.200 So there are people who do that. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.559 Um the Bible speaks for a call of discipleship, right? 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.799 It provides a freedom from all man-made foundational beliefs and anxieties. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:17.599 Uh it is a relief from man's heavy yoke and a relief with Christ's light yoke. 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:31.039 If people come to the church, they find the gospel, but then they should be encouraged through discipleship to understand truly what Christ has to offer and what a relationship with him means. 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:40.160 Because just simply coming to church, you're you're not gonna understand, like you're gonna say, I don't know, heaven forbid it's a it's one about rules, right? 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:41.440 Go through judges. 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.000 Okay, you heard a lot of rules, but now you need to learn why. 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.640 Yeah, that's that's very important to understand too. 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:56.559 Um, in first Peter chapter two, verse two like newborn infants long for this pure spiritual milk that by it you may grow up into salvation. 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.279 If indeed you have tasted that, the Lord is good. 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.000 So Like we it speaks to that, right? 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.519 As that newborn faith. 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.839 You're gonna you're you're not gonna know everything. 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:07.039 You're gonna go through faults. 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.519 You're gonna have this trials that you're gonna have to deal with. 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:18.799 And if you think, oh, I'm a Christian now and now

I'm I'm good, I'm not gonna have anything like you know hard coming into my life where I can't overcome, you're wrong. 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:23.920 You're gonna need something which is Christ to lean on. 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:27.359 If you don't have that, it's gonna go downhill. 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:27.920 Yeah. 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:30.079 Yeah, we say it all the time. 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:38.000 Having somebody right there beside you to help you fight that fight and lead you back, it's a big deal because you're gonna stumble and lose your way more than once. 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:44.880 Um teacher Bonhoeffer also wrote in his book talking about grace, and through discipleship, you get to learn about that grace. 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:50.960 Um his amazing points was he he referred to cheap grace and costly grace. 00:22:51.519 --> 00:23:00.000 He called cheap grace an inexhaustible treasury, which is showered upon all without limits, but most importantly without remembering the price or cost of grace. 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:06.079 He said cheap grace brings justification of sin, but not the justification of the sinner, which was huge. 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:07.599 I mean, it's like a smack in the face. 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:08.799 I was listening to this. 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:10.640 At one point I was listening to this book at like 2 a.m. 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:12.079 because I just couldn't sleep on vacation. 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:12.880 I don't know why. 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:17.279 And I'm listening to this book, and I was like, oh my gosh, he's right. 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:24.000 Because a lot of times here in the church, we're guilty for those who are here of being like, oh, don't sweat it. 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:26.400 The grace has covered you, you're good. 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:32.240 Instead of looking at the heart behind the sin of do you want to be different? 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:35.519 Are you are you do you feel bad about it, but you're doing it again tomorrow? 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.079 Right? 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.359 There's no judgment there. 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.279 There shouldn't be judgment, right? 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:41.200 But at the same time, we need to analyze. 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:42.960 Like, I can't sit here myself. 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:47.440 Let's say I'm gonna use an analogy, which is super dangerous if you're ever talking to sticks to any crazy. 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.920 Oh my goodness, we've had some crazy analogies. 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:54.720 Me and Sean have learned that you can even if we've prefaced it, MM. 00:23:54.799 --> 00:24:01.519 We've pressed, we've prefaced, we've prefaced the analogy of saying this is an analogy. 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:03.519 Yeah, this is not real. 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:04.319 Yes. 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.359 Let's say Sean has a drinking problem. 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.160 John does and they go, John has a drinking problem. 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.920 And we're like, no, no, no, no, that they run and tell their parents that I have a drug problem or drinking problem. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:17.279 Like, we've had that happen. 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:18.480 We've had that happen. 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:21.759 Yeah, and yeah, it we it's always gone downhill for us. 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.319 We've really never uh never had a good um analogy happening. 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.319 The fake person is your analogy guy. 00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:30.880 They always take it the run away. 00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:32.640 So, but I am gonna use an analogy. 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:42.480 You sit here and have someone who is struggling with substance abuse sit here and say, I'm not going to do drugs, right? 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.480 Or I'm I'm leaving alcohol, right? 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:48.240 Because their life is going poorly, or they find that this is bad for them. 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.799 But yet tomorrow they do it again. 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:53.680 Right? 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.599 Granted, they're they're struggling. 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:05.279 It's not that they're not on the struggle bus, but at the same time, if somebody has told me that over and over, but they do it every day, am I really going to take them serious? 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:07.599 Is their heart really truly to stop? 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:12.319 Or do I take someone who says, That's it, I'm done. 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:18.559 They go and get help, they do this or that, and say they have a slip-up seven years down the road or something like that. 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:20.000 I take them serious. 00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:21.680 It's a hard thing to kick. 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.319 Addictions of any kind are a hard thing to kick. 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:30.960 So, but I I I could consider them serious when it's not a slip-up the next day, week, or month, right? 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:32.480 We're talking years down the road. 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:33.680 Yes, you faltered. 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:34.960 Yes, you fell back into it. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.400 Like we all will at some point. 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:37.599 We're not perfect. 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.039 But I took you serious. 00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:39.440 Yeah. 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:44.480 Um, and so that's the heart as a Christian is am I serious about my grace? 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.240 God died for me, right? 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:51.599 He sent his only son, died on the cross, paid that horrible price to cover me in grace. 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:52.559 That was the cost. 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.279 And yet I'm just sitting here, like, oh, um, Lord, I'm sorry. 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.480 You know, it is what it is. 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:13.279 So he says, costly grace is the gospel that must be sought again and again, a gift that must be asked for or a door that a man must knock upon, because gosly grace is

the cost that costs God the life and suffering of his son, Jesus Christ. 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:24.400 So just through discipleship, you get to learn why we live and why we do what we do in our daily life. 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.039 And um, I I loved his book. 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:27.519 I love that. 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.200 That was the last I had from his book. 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:42.240 Um Yeah, I mean, if our faith never leaves us and impacts somebody else, we're really kind of missing the point of of the uh the mission of Jesus, the mission of of going out and spreading the gospel. 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:46.720 If we're just so conceited where we don't want you like, oh no, I can't talk to them about it. 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.559 Like that is that is wrong. 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:54.480 And um our our faith starts with like ourselves and our personal relationship with Christ. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:27:00.640 And if we're not honing that, you know, it goes back and you know, iron sharpen, iron sharpens iron. 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:14.799 If we're not if we're not doing that, bouncing ideas off of like one another and and really going through life together and understanding what we're supposed to be doing, how can we ever become healthy disciples that make other disciples if we're if we're not living that way? 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:34.319 Well, I feel like even like what you're saying too is what we're describing is something that even like the outside outside of Christian Christianity worldview can look at and say, this is a good thing that we need is discipleship could have been on the last episode of things that just words that get kind of thrown around that we don't really people don't explain the meaning of to. 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:44.480 But like the same way, if you have a good father and he's raising you to hopefully one day be, if you're his son, to be a good father to your kid. 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.960 That's we're seeing discipleship in action. 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.400 And a lot of if he didn't have a good father, he had somebody that he looked to that he learned how to be a good father from. 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:54.240 And it's you look at it in the workplace. 00:27:54.319 --> 00:28:00.240 If you want to be a hardworking, good employee, you're probably gonna learn how to do that from someone who does the job well. 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.839 And one day you're gonna be asked to do it to somebody else and teach them how to be. 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:23.519 And it's that's the model, like what y'all are saying is how to live life well, especially as a Christian, how to live and walk with Christ daily takes walking with Christ daily, but having people pour into you and show you how and bear the burdens with you, and then just how the Lord works in us is he's gonna bring people to you. 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:25.279 That's his the model is the same. 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:35.839 And anybody that walks into

church is gonna say that same thing of like, whether they're a Christian and they need help, they're gonna say, Man, I wish I wish I had somebody that could just come beside me and do this with me. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:48.160 And even if you're a lost, a lot if you're just coming into the church with just saying, I'm gonna see what this is all about, you'd like to have somebody come beside you and say, Hey, I'm just gonna lovingly tell you what this is all about. 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:48.799 Yeah. 00:28:49.039 --> 00:29:03.759 You know, discipleship is not simply learning about Jesus, like not just learning about the information, it's following Jesus closely that his life uh is reproduced in us and that we will go through and reproduce it and help reproduce it in others. 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.359 And I see that a lot. 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:12.160 Um, you know, some things that that when we go through, like I know when I first got saved, I I didn't know what that discipleship looks like. 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:16.960 I didn't know nobody walked sat me down, hey, this is what we're gonna do. 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.640 We should look to do this. 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.160 It was just all right, great. 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:20.960 Yeah, cool. 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:22.640 What was and then I'm like, okay. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.000 So then um as a family members, it's a funny story actually. 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:32.880 So I had some family members uh uh start a a uh Bibleship group or a discipleship group, sorry. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:34.000 And discipleship. 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.200 Jesus Christian board game. 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:38.400 Bible ship. 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:50.960 And uh we we go through and uh we were we were doing that, and uh uh one of the one of the guys that was uh leading it, um we ended up uh we met every Tuesday night. 00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.359 It was looking good, we were having a good time with it. 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.039 Uh I was learning a lot. 00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:08.880 We were we started in uh Romans and and went through it, the whole book of Romans, but then we ended up stop uh stopping our discipleship group um because of uh one of the leaders that uh was kind of leading the whole thing. 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:13.759 He ended up going, like Blake was saying, how addiction is really, really, really hard. 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:33.519 He ended up re uh what's that word for relapsing relapsing and um and getting back um on substance abuse and then after that we would there was nobody you can tell there there's nobody really taking it all too seriously because after that we kind of fell off, disbanded. 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.559 Yeah, and because there wasn't you know, we were all kind of just like oh okay, this is this is a good thing. 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:48.240 Yeah, like let's just go do this, and it turned out like whoa, one person you know steps out of it and then all of

a sudden it all falls apart. 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:49.839 It really shouldn't look that way. 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.480 That is uh I I probably well I don't know. 00:30:54.640 --> 00:31:02.880 If you if you hear this episode and you have a crazy story like that, let us know because I don't think there's anyone else who's ever had a discipleship group fall apart because of that. 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:04.720 Um yeah, that's one of one. 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.240 Yeah, it's kind of wild. 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.960 Um that brings me to a good point, Sean. 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:20.799 If you are, I mean, gonna lead a discipleship discipleship group or really be involved anywhere and you make sure your your heart is right, people will falter, people will make mistakes. 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:28.000 Do not think that your previous mistakes, if you've brought that to the Lord, you've repented, are gonna get in the way of him using you. 00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:33.839 Don't think that you can be a part of a discipleship group or lead a discipleship group if that is what the Lord has laid on your heart. 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.680 Um, a good example of that is Peter, right? 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:42.319 Peter, we know, was the cornerstone of the church starting. 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:49.119 That guy in your discipleship group is the cornerstone of that group, which you found out because once he was out, it all fell apart. 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:50.720 Yeah, you didn't know that at the time. 00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.599 But Peter was the cornerstone of that discipleship group or of the church. 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:59.599 But before that, he was one of the most faithful disciples. 00:31:59.839 --> 00:32:02.960 He was he was right there competing with John, right? 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.279 They were fighting over who's the right hand man. 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.119 And the whole time Jesus knew what Peter was going to do at the end. 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:09.519 Yeah. 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:10.000 Right? 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:16.480 He called Peter to be a disciple, knowing what he did in the past and knowing his betrayal in the future. 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.359 And then after Peter did betray Jesus, right, three times denied. 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.480 I do not know that man. 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.960 I don't follow that man, I know nothing about him. 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.519 Straight up betrayed him as Jesus said he would. 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:29.519 Jesus comes back to him. 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.720 He comes back as like, be my disciple again. 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.599 And not only that, disciple others. 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.599 Lead my church, right? 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.160 So don't think your shortcomings are going to come in the way of what God can do. 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:42.799 All right. 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:47.759 If you have repented like Peter did, he came before Jesus three times, right? 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.240 Which was the same amount of times that he betrayed Jesus and said, I am sorry, I repent. 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:53.920 So don't let that get in the way. 00:32:54.559 --> 00:33:01.200 Christ's grace pursued Peter no matter where Peter was, and it pursued him until he died from martyrdom. 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.119 Until he died for Jesus, that grace pursued him. 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:20.319 So well, even like on what you're saying with Peter, too, is and how we can look at it and say, Don't be discouraged if whenever we when we fail and stumble in our walking and our striving to be good disciples and the the discipleship walk. 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:32.480 Um I feel like the Lord used Peter's rejection of the Lord those three times to mold him into God was strategically doing that in Peter's life, so Peter could be who he was supposed to be. 00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.480 Um you're right. 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:42.640 Um which is not that it's good to go out and do bad things and and mess up, right? 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.519 But that is the beauty of what God does. 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:51.440 It takes our failures and shortcomings and makes them good and useful and beautiful. 00:33:51.680 --> 00:34:14.800 I want to say I heard apparently there is a biblical theory or something's out there that again kind of get in a time space, whatever, but apparently Bible scholars and some theologians think that God, because he's all knowing, knew that man was going to sin. 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:20.559 Man was going to obviously fall short, and we were gonna live in what we do now, right? 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.599 Everything was gonna have to happen the way it was before he created anything. 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:36.480 So it would have been better for him to have removed, like everything would have been more perfect if he would have just removed that temptation, if he'd have just removed this or created things a little different. 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.159 He could have continued perfection without our shortcomings. 00:34:40.559 --> 00:35:06.320 However, God being God is able to knowingly knew that we were gonna mess up, creates us anyway, lets it all go down because he is so amazing and so good that he was like, that's fine, go ahead and mess up because I'm going to take your failure, I'm gonna take your imperfections and create something that's even more perfect and beautiful than perfect creation would have been. 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:06.880 Yeah. 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.519 And so he's like, uh, which is I don't know, mind mind blown, big deal, hard to talk about. 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:19.360 But and again, I'm just uh a uh southern guy, not that book smart. 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.800 Um, but that is crazy that the Lord's like, bring it. 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:24.559 Uh this is nothing to me. 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:24.880 Yeah. 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:46.719 Um, so no, yeah, it's like uh God's

design for us in this world was to be in relationship and fellowship with him, and even our darkest, most sinful thing that we could bring to table and Satan could bring against him is what God used to show the world that you can even you can be in even more so intimate relationship with me because the worst you can do, I died for it all on the cross. 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.880 Yeah, he used it. 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:50.639 Well, checkmate. 00:35:50.880 --> 00:36:04.159 Yeah, my uh what really what I was whenever we were talking about doing this, what I was pulled to, and the passage in the scripture that I kind of always connect to is the Great Commission. 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:13.119 And uh I'll read here Matthew 28, 18 through 20, the Great Commission says, And Jesus came and said to them, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:25.360 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you, and behold, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. 00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:38.159 And for me, hearing that growing up forever, that passage and the Great Commission and hearing just to live on mission, I always connected that passage, for at least for me, to missionaries. 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.519 That was the go go to many, go to the nations and tell people about me and baptize them. 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:51.119 I just um always and I heard that taught a lot, really strictly connected to go and tell mission work, go tell people. 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.920 But looking at like he's calling us to make disciples, and that's what we're talking about today. 00:36:56.000 --> 00:37:01.840 And he says, Go and go to go to the nations, let me read it again. 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:14.800 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, and what that looks like is baptizing them in the name of the Father's Son and Holy Spirit, and then right after that, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you, and behold, I'm with you always. 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:25.199 And the this is this is how it's like it's not just missionaries going out living on the or you have to go and tell somebody the gospel, and that's you living out the Great Commission. 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:35.760 If we're we need to be seeking, like we're saying, the Great Commission looks like us being taught by each other what it's like to live, and we're teaching others as we do it. 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:42.239 Um it's the day-to-day of life, yeah, not just the mission work that's over overseas. 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:42.880 Yeah. 00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:49.280 You know, uh Jesus didn't simply like command us to make con converts, he commanded us to make disciples. 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:55.039 Yeah, and I know a lot of people like talk about that, and um it kind of gets confusing, you know. 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.239 He also didn't say, Oh, go teach them the information. 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:00.400 Yeah, it did he didn't say that. 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.880 He's to me teach them what I commanded you. 00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:08.719 Yeah, what did I command you to to love others, love God, yeah, and and go forth and and do that. 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:10.159 Yeah, yeah. 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:28.320 I I a funny viewpoint of discipleship for me in this looking through the lens of scripture with Jesus and the disciples is we get the a lot of the high points of like the Jesus actually teaching them lessons and them sitting through sermons, and we get to see the human response of like, goodness, what is Jesus doing? 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:38.800 And Jesus having to almost I think a lot of times Jesus had to be like good grief, these 12 dudes are idiots, and they they need me to teach them more than anything. 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:58.719 But it really is uh the discipleship side of it that's funny to me, and just like a good application for us, like we're talking about, is like we already said, Jesus lived every day with these disciples, so they got to not only get those lessons taught by Jesus, but they just got to see Jesus live life and oh, this is how we do it. 00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.679 Yeah, man. 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:00.159 Yeah. 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:07.360 Well, I like what you said about when you thought about the Great Commission, you read that, you think about missionaries. 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:15.920 Um discipleship, teaching others and spreading that is not directed to missionaries and pastors alone, right? 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:23.840 You have a responsibility as a Christian to first be discipled and then to have disciples. 00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.000 They're not following you. 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.880 They're you should be pointing them to Christ, right? 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:45.760 This isn't about you, this isn't your plan that's whatever, but you especially if someone's listening to this and you are someone who's like, oh, I've been saved for a long time, you have all these life experiences, we're talking to an older person in the church, you should be finding some young men and pouring into them, right? 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.199 You should be pouring into them so that way they can pour into someone else. 00:39:49.360 --> 00:40:00.320 Um, and if listen, if supposed to listen to this and you don't have that older support in your church from an older member and you're a younger guy, 20, 30, don't think that you're a young guy who's can't do this. 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:01.280 You start it. 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.800 Start it with younger men than you, and then let that continue. 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.559 Show them the importance of it. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.199 The Robbie Galati, Robbie, I don't know how to do it. 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:10.159 Robbie uh Gallade. 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:16.400 Gallade,

the growing up series, those three-part series books are a perfect place to start. 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.079 Get them, go through it with somebody. 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.639 Again, you don't have to wait to find six or seven people. 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.320 Start it with two guys. 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:23.440 Just that way it's personal. 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.079 But it's this isn't your pastor's fault, right? 00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:29.280 Now, pastors should encourage it, but this is this is on you. 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:32.159 If you're listening, yeah, yeah, and you don't do it, this is your fault. 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:38.079 And really, yeah, people think that oh uh it should be a quick process. 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.159 It's not discipleship is slow. 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:47.360 If you look at Jesus, Jesus spent three years with his with those disciples, pouring into them, being with them day to day. 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:49.599 Putting up with them, putting up with them, right? 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:54.880 You know, even through like uh Blake mentioned that uh Peter denied denied Christ. 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:56.800 He he you know, he did that denial. 00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:58.480 Thomas doubted as well. 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:08.000 And um and one of the things uh with all of that that Jesus already knew that was gonna happen, but Jesus still stayed committed to those 12 guys, right? 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:12.320 Yeah, he knew Judas was gonna go and betray him for 30 pieces of silver. 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:28.960 He we he knew that, but yet he still stayed committed to him, still trying to pour into them as much as he could, you know, and um that downfall um with with you know just shows that even though you're you might have a discipleship group that you have seven, eight people in your group, yeah. 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:35.920 Well, then you're you might have that one person who just who's not there either for the right reasons or he's just not there like fully checked in. 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:36.800 That's gonna happen. 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:37.679 It's not your fault. 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:48.880 As long as you're doing what you know what Christ is calling you to do, and and showing these guys like what what it is looking like to be a Christ follower, yeah, then you know you've done your part and the rest is on them. 00:41:49.119 --> 00:42:09.360 Well, that's like the I think that's like the coolest part of discipleship and how God is the one that does it, and like the hardest to accept whenever you're trying to be willing to disciple others, is that it's awesome that it isn't your job to mature them until they like now you're ready to be, you're ready to disciple others. 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:16.320 It's if God's leading you to disciple someone, he's the one that's gonna be drawing them, he's gonna be the one using you. 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.760 So it takes the pressure off of man, if I if I fail them, then they're they're gone. 00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.360 It's they're in the Lord's hands and he's using you if you're a faithful servant like that. 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:34.159 But then, like you said, the hardest part is like if you we're human and we invest into somebody enough to pour into their life, it's so hard. 00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:41.840 If you truly like care about someone and love somebody enough to pour into their life, and you see them absolutely just say, I get it, I don't want it. 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:42.639 Yeah, man. 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:46.480 Then you got to say the same thing of like this, they're not in my hands, they're in the Lord's hands. 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:49.039 That's um, you know, we we see that a lot in the youth group. 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:57.840 We we see us uh, you know, a lot of us as youth leaders pour into these kids and uh are trying to make that difference in their lives and point them to Christ. 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:18.480 And um, you know, a few years ago we had a guy in our in our youth group uh love him to death, and uh we would I'll try to go take golfing, have that, you know, share that bond, you know, and and you know, invite him over for dinner, have that type of stuff, and like really ask him what is he doing, like you know, did day to day, what does it look like in your faith? 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:29.760 And um, you know, it looked like we you know, he was like, Okay, yeah, let's do this, let's do that, and we were you know growing closer in the Lord, and then um graduated and then totally fell off the the earth. 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.920 Like you nobody could talk to him. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.880 Like he stopped answering phone calls, stopped answering text messages. 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:42.639 Yeah, and it's it's so heartbreaking to see that because you want as you know, as somebody who's investing in that person to be like, hey, dude, snap out of it. 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:43.679 Like what are you doing? 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:44.000 Yeah. 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.800 But at the same time, like you know, you're an adult now. 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:48.880 This is where you know where we are. 00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:49.119 Yeah. 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.599 You know, I'm gonna keep I love you, I'm gonna keep praying for you, I'm gonna keep trying to reach out. 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.760 But if you don't, okay, I get it. 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.079 Yeah. 00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.639 But you know, it it is really heartbreaking seeing that. 00:43:58.800 --> 00:43:59.360 Oh, yeah. 00:43:59.519 --> 00:43:59.760 Yeah. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.000 Well, and that's that's what discipleship should be. 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.760 It should be that personal to where if something happens to you, something happens to them, they're there. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.440 Like what hurts you hurts them. 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:09.679 Yeah. 00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:10.880

But they love you, love. 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:12.239 That's that's what that should be. 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.360 Um Christ called us to disciple. 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:24.719 And if we're supposed to be Christ-like, one, he called us to do it, but also for imitating him, we should be looking to his disciples who then took on other disciples. 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:25.119 Yeah. 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:33.440 Paul took on Timothy, Titus, Silas, Peter took on uh Mark and Silas as well. 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:41.199 So like the second he left, the disciples, the apostles, started taking on disciples, and then it continued on. 00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:43.760 Um, and it's a shame that that's gotten lost. 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:50.320 I looked up some um like data on why discipleship's failing. 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:57.199 Um again, this isn't up to pastors alone, but pastors do tend to start this. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:03.199 I had no idea what discipleship was or that it was crucial for the church until our pastor got here. 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:07.679 And our our pastor was like, Hey, listen, this is something we need to be doing. 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.000 We need to be doing discipleship, and I'm like, what the heck is that? 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.599 He chose a couple guys, and then those guys chose guys, and that's how we got into it. 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:23.440 Yeah, and when when uh our pastor first came on, his two biggest points he was like, Hey, this is the two things that we need to focus on as a church. 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:26.239 Discipleship was one, and number two was missions. 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.000 I think that was turning his view of a call. 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:29.920 That was his his first his first service on. 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:30.320 Oh, okay. 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.159 That was our first week when we came in. 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:39.599 Okay, and we we think we were checking out uh different churches and stuff, and our first week was his first week, and that's at that's how he ended his message. 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:42.320 Like, discipleship and missions, those are top two things. 00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.840 I'm like, yeah, I I can get I I I I can get on that. 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.559 Well, it starts with pastors and then it then it goes into your hands. 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:58.079 Um but a 2026 study from Burner Group showed that one out of four pastors contemplate leaving the ministry. 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:12.320 They're burnt out, whether that's from lack of church support, or um, I know a lot of pastors try to start something, discipleship groups, try and start these things that are gonna help their church members grow. 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:13.280 The congregation. 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.079 The congregation, but the congregation rejects it. 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:21.519 Like, no, I just want to be here Sunday, Wednesday, ride the pew, and then go home. 00:46:21.599 -->

00:46:27.760 Yeah, I don't want to serve, I don't want to have any more of my time take up than the minimum, right? 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.599 Oh, I have sports, I'm so busy, you know, my kids are doing this, this, and this. 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:32.559 It's not a priority. 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.480 Yeah, church is not a priority to them. 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.519 Um, and so pastors leave. 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.039 If they're not getting the support, if people just turn away, then why be there? 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:42.960 Um, pastors as a whole don't get paid. 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:50.320 We were joking around ahead of time, uh, talking about um, you know, pastors don't make good money typically, right? 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.880 If they're somewhere where they are, that's fantastic. 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:59.199 Um, now if there's somebody like Joel Osteen or what's what's the one dude who looks like a like demonic piece of pastor? 00:46:59.280 --> 00:46:59.920 Oh, the older dude? 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:00.559 Older dude. 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:01.920 Kevin Copeland. 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.440 Yeah, that dude has a demon inside of him, most likely. 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.760 Um, I will put that out there on social media. 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:08.400 I don't care. 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:09.840 Um that's what he looks like. 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:10.719 Oh, yeah, dude. 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.199 Um when he was talking about uh during the COVID, he's like, I spew on them or whatever. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.079 Spit all of them, but the them jokers right there, right? 00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.719 Like they've got money. 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.320 That's bad money, right? 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.559 Them jokers are making you pay them. 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:29.360 Um that's what people look at us as one like big scam. 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:30.320 They're the scammers. 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.480 Yeah, those are the ones who are prosperity gossiping. 00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:38.639 Like, if if you know you give a hundred dollars to us, you have a good fortune or whatever. 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.440 Yeah, well, it's like if you want the Lord to give to you, then you need to give to him. 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:46.800 Yeah, so that is um so we just talked about that too. 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.079 Um don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:51.840 We just talk about tithing and stuff. 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.320 Yeah, that was last week's sermon. 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:54.880 Yeah. 00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.679 You I'm not even gonna tithe can be for another time. 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.159 That's a whole rabbit hole. 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.239 Um people look at us, we are just forgiven to the church and whatever. 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.679 Like especially at our work, my my workplace. 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:07.920 Yeah. 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:09.599 Yeah, I get I get a lot of weird. 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:12.480 For all those listeners who are at Sean's workplace, he's talking trash right now. 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.440 Um I don't agree with the belief out there that pastors should have a full-time job somewhere else. 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:25.039 Um, that pastors need to be like a mechanic, pastors need to be doing something, and then they come here on Sunday and preach. 00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:27.360 I would rather pay my tithe. 00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:42.480 I'd rather have a pastor who is full-time dedicated to ministry, whether that's going out and visiting people at the hospital, whether that's getting ready and preparing his heart and his message for Wednesday or Sunday um teachings. 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:50.880 I want him fully focused on being my shepherd, not working nine to five and getting me giving me what's left. 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.159 I don't want that. 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.280 Um, so and that can burn a pastor out right there. 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.800 If he's if he is at a church that's got to juggle a job and then this. 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.159 That's crazy. 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:09.519 Another study showed that 20 in 2025 from Burner Group as well, that pastors are now struggling to connect or build relationships. 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.599 They're part of this new generation, younger guys who then come into churches. 00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.159 Being a pastor is all about relationships. 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:17.840 That's how you start discipleship. 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:19.840 Being a Christian is all about. 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:20.800 Yeah, right. 00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.679 I mean, you think Jehovah's Witness is hard, knocking on doors. 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:24.559 Uh, no. 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:26.880 So they don't even ride bikes anymore. 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:27.920 Yeah, cheap. 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:37.119 Anyway, if a pastor can't build a relationship because they're a part of this new generation that was all social, it's all online and all that kind of stuff. 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:47.360 If they've never had to do that, how are you going to lean people into a personal relational group who's going to be like, I'm going through this, you know, or I'm going through that. 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.199 And here's how you should be addressing this or this, or whatever. 00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.920 Like, how how are we supposed to grow if the pastoral community can't get us there? 00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:00.159 Um, and so that was a scary study, and that's why discipleships are really declining. 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:03.280 Um, those two st uh statistics alone. 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:16.239 Well, that's what it's it's funny you say that too, because I think that's something that we should anybody that's listening to this that either feels like they don't have that discipleship need being met, or if you're on the outside looking

in. 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:26.800 You need to look for a place and let the Lord lead you to a church and a community that discipleship is a culture, it's not like a class or it's uh you know. 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:27.920 It's a livestock. 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:28.960 It is, it should. 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:38.480 I mean, you should uh we I think we've all probably can say we've been in churches especially that you can be there for like you can be there for one Sunday and say this is not a culture of discipleship. 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.320 This is almost like I am an outsider, or I like we said before, I sat in somebody's assigned seat. 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:44.639 Yeah. 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:54.480 But you should all of us if if we're doing it the right way, our church should you should feel that side of like, man, I'm there are people here who want to pour into me. 00:50:54.639 --> 00:51:16.880 And that's that's why what we're saying is discipleship isn't because it's mandatory as walking, as a Christian who wants to walk with the walk with the Lord daily, discipleship is not something that's optional, and it's not something that you have to mature to a point to step into okay, I'm gonna be discipled now, or I'm I'm be I've been working too hard my whole life as a Christian. 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.719 It's time to retire from discipleship. 00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:19.840 It's lifelong. 00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:21.840 So our churches should you should be able to do it. 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.119 You don't retire from it. 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.880 Yeah, yeah, it's a lifelong deal. 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:39.760 So you should be we need you should seek out places that have a culture of discipleship because you're living life together, and there's gonna be highs and lows, there's gonna be schedule conflicts, there's gonna be um, I mean, this podcast. 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:47.840 This right here, I mean, we have 500 views now on two of our posts that are that MM's doing over here. 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:48.639 We're famous now. 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.280 The Olympians don't know who MM is. 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:51.920 Yeah, Mm. 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:53.840 Oh, that's that is Elijah. 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:58.000 Um he was called uh his nickname is Glizzy. 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.760 All right, that's what the youth know him by, good old Glizzy. 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.840 Um, but me and Sean being there. 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.360 The reason why is it because uh they said we get this back, Story? 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.239 Is this is this so the reason why this they asked you what your favorite food was, right? 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.440 Didn't you say hot dog? 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:31.760 No, I this literally just it literally only came up from I was cooking hot dogs one day with my friends, and I asked them if they grew up boiling hot dogs ever, like I did, and immediately no one had done that, and then glizzy was

what I got called. 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.480 That's just there's no there's no good story. 00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.480 I just I got called glizzy. 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:38.000 Was that the way you preferred them? 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:44.000 No, I just like my family just threw them in a pot of water, boiled it, and I didn't think it was weird. 00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:47.039 I mean, mass-producing hot dogs, I suppose. 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.880 We always we always microwaved it or cut them open. 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.719 That's that's scary. 00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.639 We we cut them open and then like we pan-fried it. 00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:57.280 Oh wow. 00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:58.480 That was that was too much work. 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:06.239 That's my family breakfast is a like cut open hot dog pan seared with white rice and runny eggs. 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:07.840 Oh that is a family breakfast. 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.199 That's been going on for a long time. 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:10.480 It's a very strange breakfast. 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:12.400 So this is so very strange. 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:20.079 I know we're way off topic, but uh, my wife and her family they they like to get they get like for breakfast, right? 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:21.440 Or they even eat it for dinner. 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.039 They've never seen it before. 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.639 They get sausage, they cut it open. 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:27.360 Okay, that's it. 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:28.400 We're good, we're tracking it. 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:34.960 They pan fry it, but then they put it on white bread and then dip it into syrup. 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:36.239 I'd try it. 00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.199 Yeah, I'm like, well, it's not the worst thing. 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.119 It's not the worst thing, but it's super weird. 00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:42.800 Like I'm like, this is good? 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:44.000 Yeah, we eat it all the time. 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:45.199 It's like, okay, I'll try it. 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.039 I'm like, it's like crazy. 00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:53.440 Why don't they just take the sausage, cook it, dip it in pancake batter, and then cook it. 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:54.800 I mean, you I mean that's the same thing. 00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:55.440 Yeah, same thing. 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:56.079 Then dip it. 00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.400 I've just changed your your in-laws' life. 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:00.159 You need to go cook that for them. 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:01.679 Um, you're welcome. 00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:03.280 I'm sure I mean you know who they are. 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:03.840 I'm sure they would. 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.159 I served that at your first Bible study that broke down. 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.440 That's that was an appetizer. 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:18.400 Um, but I know this is kind of getting back on topic, and um, yeah, we're kind of running out of time. 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.599 Um, I do want to give out um not not a plug. 00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.000 I'm okay with there being 45 minutes to an hour, yeah. 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:25.039 As long as we're in that window. 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:25.599 Yeah. 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:34.719 Um just going back to the books that the series I was talking about by uh Robbie Gallity, just some high-level points of what each book kind of goes over. 00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:42.960 Uh Growing Up is the first book, and that's how you're gonna learn to walk with Jesus, develop spiritual habits, and build biblical foundations. 00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:53.760 And then after you read that book, you're gonna go into firmly planted, and that uh those are over uh so how do you put down roots in your faith? 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:59.039 How do you build that conviction, stand firm through trials, and know God's word? 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:10.960 Then after that, it'll end in bearing fruit, and that is gonna be um live a transformed life, display Christ-like character, invest in others, and multiply disciples. 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:17.039 And that's how that that's how that uh kind of flows through uh that little trilogy that he has going on. 00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:28.880 Uh these this book series has been a great help for um for me as um as a as a you know somebody who's trying to get discipled and disciple somebody else. 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.639 That's what uh really helped me uh start off with that. 00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:34.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.000 That was that was the tool and series that we went through. 00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:40.559 Um, I mean, me and Sean went through it together. 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:41.119 Yep. 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:46.880 Um it is it's fun to go through discipleship with others. 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.320 Um just guys going through life together. 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.000 At the same time, it's not easy. 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:56.480 Uh we were challenged by the guy leading it to memorize scripture. 00:55:56.719 --> 00:55:58.079 I'm horrible at that. 00:55:58.239 --> 00:55:58.800 It's really hard. 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:00.639 I'm horrible at that. 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.880 Um, I always have been. 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:07.679 I really feel like my brain is to push one thing in is to push one thing out. 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:10.639 I don't want it to be that way, but that's what it feels like. 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:14.960 Um, between that and my ADD, I don't know if you're telling you. 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:16.639 Your job as a contract killer. 00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:18.559 Yeah, yeah, your assassin job. 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:20.719 My ADD has been so bad lately. 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:25.599 I'll walk out to go do something, and I have done 10 other things before I get back to what I was originally doing. 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:25.920 Yep. 00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:27.440 And I'm so distracted. 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.679 Discipleship is a big topic. 00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:37.840 I understand if you're not in church, you're not plugged in, that might not mean that much to you, but it is something that I hope you did listen to because that's what church is supposed to be. 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:47.760 It's not supposed to be you come and sit in the pew and nobody talks to you, or you make a decision and you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:49.280 That's not the end. 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:50.639 It's the beginning. 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:54.000 Um, and that should that shouldn't just be you doing it alone. 00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:58.400 Um because you're definitely gonna wander off path if that's if it's just you. 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:13.519 Um that would be my only practical like advice, not only I guess, but but like the practical to do of discipleship is if you're a Christian listening, I think the best like first step is like start serving. 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.880 Like get up and start doing. 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:23.760 Don't just sit on the sideline and listen and go like start serving and do because you're gonna be serving alongside people and you're gonna be serving alongside people who will pour into you. 00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:26.719 And obviously, as you're serving in the church, you're gonna be pouring into others. 00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:27.039 Yeah. 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:40.320 So it's and then like I said, if you're on you have no clue what any of this is about, ask somebody because somebody's hopefully discipleship minded is gonna say, Oh, the Lord's brought somebody that he wants me to pour into. 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:47.360 So if you don't even, if you have no idea, just ask somebody because we got some discipleship-minded people should be ready to ready to go. 00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:48.559 Yeah, 100%. 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.000 Um we appreciate everybody who listened. 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.119 We really hope y'all enjoyed it. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.920 Hope that y'all are ready for the next one to come out in two weeks because this is it. 00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:59.280 You've got the first three. 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:00.880 I hope you're hooked, and we'll be back. 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:03.039 You won't want to miss our next episode. 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:04.880 It's gonna be a blast. 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:06.079 I can't wait. 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:08.159 Um see y'all in two weeks. 00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:09.119 See y'all later. 00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:10.320 Love y'all. 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.119 Thank you for listening to this week's episode of Reverendly Ridiculous. 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:23.199 Please leave us a like, comment, and review to tell us if you loved or hated this episode. 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:25.760 See you next time on Reverently Ridiculous.