Bản chép lời đầy đủ của Passing Time: Terrion Arnold ARRESTED! - Our BOLDEST Predictions! Are We Crazy??? - S2E53 - 6/24/26

00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.800 He's uh he's innocent until proven guilty. 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:22.879 Um no doubt about it. 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:26.479 Allegations are not convictions in these cases, you know. 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:35.039 Um, so uh Terry Arnold was arrested, and um there are allegations, but he has not been convicted of anything. 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:50.000 The reports indicate that prosecutors are investigating whether Arnold had any involvement in a retaliatory incident after an alleged uh theft um down in an Airbnb in Florida. 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:50.639 Yep. 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:57.360 Um key legal question isn't whether he was present, because I think that's already been delineated. 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:01.039 He's he's basically said he wasn't present. 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:13.680 Um the key legal thing for him is whether prosecutors can prove that he planned it, directed it, financed it, or encouraged it on the alleged crimes. 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:23.840 Um so um what the defense is gonna argue here, Brian, is um that he was a victim of theft. 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:32.000 He never uh approved, ordered, he wasn't there, um he didn't witness it. 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:39.680 Um text messages, phone records, and statements can be taken way out of context. 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:45.680 And you know, the what you saw there wasn't really the implied meaning of those messages. 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:46.479 For sure. 00:03:46.719 --> 00:04:01.120 And and even before we kind of roll into this, which which I I agree with, I I think we need to like dive into both sides and see where Terry Arnold lies and how does that impact you know our Detroit Lions in this process. 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:07.360 But ultimately, what like the the incident itself started off with what? 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:18.319 Like Terry and Arnold had$250,000 worth of merchandise and cash stolen out of a uh AR and B B that he had in Tampa, Florida. 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:18.720 Is that right? 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:19.439 That's right, yeah. 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:47.120 Okay, and then associates of Terry and Arnold held some of these or found out who stole this stuff, found out who they were, kidnapped them, held them to gunpoint, and then got the the the merchandise returned, is that or just held them held them as a kidnapping, um, threatening their lives, kinda. 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:56.720 Yeah, I mean threatening uh you know allegedly pistol whipping, beating, okay, um, and and and trying to get uh extract the the stuff back. 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:57.199 Right. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:05.839 So um and in this process, the allegations are saying that Terry and Arnold was a part of that, correct? 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.319 There was a messaging back and forth from these associates and Terry and Arnold. 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:23.839 Uh I mean to take it out of the legal terms, it's basically saying that Terry and Arnold's crew basically were like, hey, we'll get your stuff back, we're gonna take matters in our own hands. 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:34.079 Originally he called the cops, but then quickly uh his crew went in and kind of took upon themselves, you know, roughed them up and uh worked on getting the stuff back or making charges. 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:39.040 Retaliation, vigilante, yeah, like we'll take we'll we'll do our own work. 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.120 I mean, we can all relate to that, right? 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.759 Like that would be, you know, somebody steals Brian's bike. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:58.720 Um me and four other guys go and we we can't find the bike, but we we make sure that the guide won't steal Brian's bike again, you know, and um and that we all kind of think about that. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:03.680 Like, hey, I want that that you know the person to pay for what they did. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:11.519 You know, that that self-justice, like like take it upon yourself to to take the matters in your own hands, you know. 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:30.879 So um, you know, the the defense is gonna attempt to just basically all like and separate him from like what happened and basically say like, hey man, these are allegedly and then and what what messages you're looking at are way out of context, right? 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:50.160 Um but if the prosecutor prosecutors can prove that he directed this incident, um this is a this is much more serious, and Brian, like um the scale here of his his term in in jail or prison is pretty significant, right? 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:59.839 I mean we've read anything from like you can plead this down, you know, they might be able to to work on a deal, or it could be life in prison, right? 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.000 I mean that yeah, I mean that's extreme. 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.199 Extreme um anywhere from probation to life in prison. 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:05.759 Right. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.600 That's two um wildly different outcomes. 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:18.240 Um I I can you know tell you like it I doubtfully with with his representation is gonna be life in prison. 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:24.000 Um, but even when that you gotta scale that back a little bit, it could be life without the NFL. 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:24.879 Right, right. 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:29.920 And it it may very well be the life without the Detroit Lions, but at the very least. 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:44.240 Yeah, so um, you know, the prosecutors in the eyes of the law, if the prosecutors can prove that he planned a crime, that's nearly or as damaging as actually committing the crime. 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:50.800 So it um you know exposure could be measured in years, not months. 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:53.360 The statutory maximums are severe. 00:07:53.519 --> 00:08:03.759 Um plea deals often result in lower sentences, um, but they result in sentences, especially when it's when it's tough. 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:21.120 So um for

for TA and the defense and the prosecution, you know, what matters most here is the phone records, the text messages, are there venmos back and forth, are there financial transactions, um location data. 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.319 We're all pinging off uh everything. 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:28.079 There's uh you know, cameras now, the flock cameras everywhere, right? 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.920 Um, and then testimony from anybody cooperating. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:39.759 You know, he's got a group of best buds, but when those guys are getting the book thrown at him, they might not fall on the sword for TA. 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:40.080 Right. 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:50.000 And it and it sounds like right now the testimony from these guys um is what the the prosecution is relying on. 00:08:50.159 --> 00:09:05.440 Um and you know, what kind of deal have they have they offered though those uh the crew, if you will, and uh, you know, what is their motivation in order to either protect or not um to Terry and Arnold in this process. 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:06.240 Yeah. 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:22.960 So, you know, as Lions fans, um right now this is a this is a legal story, not a football story, though he's not gonna be at least for a period of time on the football front. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:34.799 And that makes you start to think um when it came comes to OTAs, and you see Terry and Arnold working on the second field with the second team defense versus the first field and the first team defense. 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.120 Um, does that is that telling? 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:42.559 Um, when they add questions to Dan Campbell and you ask him, hey, why is Terrian working over there? 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:44.720 He's got to earn his position. 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:57.039 He, you know, you see Ennis Regstrah, you see DJ Reed, you see Rocky Sin, you know, working on that that first team um defense, you know, getting first team reps at corner. 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:58.879 Um, is that telling? 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:04.399 Yeah, um I would say yes, that's that's very telling right now. 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:09.360 Um, but the lions in the NFL are typically a little bit slower to react. 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:09.759 Sure. 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:14.399 You look at the Rashi Rice, you know, deal, very different. 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:20.000 Um, but the NFL is still trying to wait to react on that. 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:29.919 I don't know, we're you know, 18 months from kind of when that incident, but the legal process is kind of playing out, and there's been some reaction, but not full reaction to that. 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:41.679 And and the Lions, you know, continue to hold themselves to a standard of character, um, football etiquette, and uh, you know, good people uh in their room. 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:52.399 So are they going to allow even this distraction to be a distraction, or are they going to cut ties regardless of the the legal outcomes of this of this issue? 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:58.879 Yeah, and you know, the lions went um, you know, the angle of culture, right? 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:00.559 They've been talking about culture. 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.519 Um, Campbell was hired to deliver culture. 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:08.639 Um, and that this could be something that severely interferes with that culture. 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:09.120 100%. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:17.440 And right now, the the statement the Lions have just given out, it says that there's no comment, they don't want to interfere with the legal process, which you know makes sense. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:22.559 They're gonna let the the prosecutors, they're gonna let the the the courts do their job. 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:28.080 Um, they're gonna let the NFL determine whether this is something that they need to intervene with um first. 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:41.279 And uh, you know, I'm I'm sure TA has told the lines of story, um, and they have to like either trust TA in his process and and his um and his word um or not. 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:42.080 So yeah. 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.320 Um, you know, we'll stick to the north. 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:56.879 Uh there's been Josh Jacobs, you know, has been like um basically not allegedly, I think they're they're basically saying like something happened. 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.879 Yeah, he was doing that, and the NFL hasn't reacted. 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.159 And this is now uh a month or so past, right? 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.080 So this is gonna be very slow moving. 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:21.200 Hopefully, TA's lawyers get him out of jail, um, which she probably will be out of jail very quickly and let this all play out in core, but man, um this is gonna be um significant news story for a while. 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:39.120 Yep, and uh you know, it it makes you think like you bolstered your defensive backs, you brought in some youth, you brought in some veterans, and uh maybe you're you're dependent on these guys because you knew a little bit more about this story going through. 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.120 So I mean that's speculation. 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.039 Very, very speculative. 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:49.600 Um, so we what we want you guys to take from from what was the the diatribe right there. 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.320 I think there's three major bullet points, Brian. 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:57.279 Until actual charges, evidence, court filings are fully vetted. 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.879 This is just kind of a wait and see situation. 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:02.720 Yeah, you get we don't know. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.000 I'm not a legal prosecutor, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know. 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:11.120 All I'm all I'm doing is reading on acts and determining what I I should believe or not believe. 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:16.879 So um the range of outcomes here is uh is giant, right? 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Yeah, I mean it's it's all the way from you know life in prison to and we talked about that, yeah. 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.480 Almost almost, yeah, almost nothing, right? 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:33.039 And um at this stage, no third bullet point, at this stage, nobody outside the investigation truly knows um which end of the spectrum we're on. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:46.960 You know, the the prosecution's gonna lead with uh the most serious charge to the you know the life in prison, and the defense is gonna say, like, hey, like uh we should get this dropped, it shouldn't even be in the courts, right? 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:53.840 And like so we're here at the the kind of the forefront of this, and and there's a whole range of outcomes that could happen. 00:13:54.320 --> 00:14:04.399 And you know, we could be a hot takey with this too, but the reality is we're just breaking the news to you that we've received that we know of, and uh take it for what it is. 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.600 So, yeah, so um stay tuned. 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:12.879 This will be a uh probably a weekly update on the podcast. 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:30.320 Yeah, um, we don't have a good lawyer friend, we have doctors, teachers, financiers, you know, pilots, and all the fun things, but um we gotta hey reach out to us if you're if you're a legal person and kind of help us uh run through this. 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:30.720 Yeah. 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.679 On a much more fun podcast side, yeah. 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:37.200 Take a deep breath. 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:44.879 Let's let's let's let's put that heaviness of uh aside because like as Lions fans, I feel like we've been there before. 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:51.519 We've been there in in our history where like the off-season takes on this kind of crap, right? 00:14:51.759 --> 00:15:10.480 And instead of like getting better, we gotta rely on or we gotta talk about the the JMOs getting in trouble for for gambling or the assaults and batteries, or if you go back in the day, the going through a drive-thru naked, you know, and so on, right? 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:22.399 You know, the the lions have their their stories, and uh you know, I I felt I feel pretty good about the the history, you know, the current history, um, not having that until now. 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:23.279 Yeah. 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:28.399 Um so let's lead into like um some more fun stuff. 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:34.720 So um Brian, um we both got kind of two and a half hot takes for the year, right? 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:41.519 And um I'm gonna let you drive here for your for your hot take and kind of introduce what we're doing, how we're doing it. 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:43.519 Okay, so we're gonna talk about a couple hot takes. 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:48.000 Some something for the 26-27 season. 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:49.519 What do you see happening? 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:57.120 What are some what are some takeaways that we can get from this season now, way too early. 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:03.440 Um predictions such as Brian's hot take number one. 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:09.039 Brian's hot take number one, Jameer Gibbs will lead the league in all-purpose yards. 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:24.960 Um he will then be in the market, if not winning, offensive player of the year, um 210, or I'm sorry, 2,100 all-purpose yards, scoring 18 to 20 touchdowns. 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:32.960 Um, if you look at this, no David Montgomery to share to share um runs with, there's to share snaps with. 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:37.519 Um, Isaiah Pacheco might take a little load off of him in short yardage. 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.559 Um, but Gibbs is gonna be the true workhorse here. 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:41.200 I like it. 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:41.759 I like it. 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:46.639 So, what does Vegas say about kind of your hot take? 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:47.919 Well, they agree. 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.120 So, so I I came up with this hot take. 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.600 I was like, oh, I'm pretty excited about this, and then um, so Vegas got it first. 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.200 So uh tell them what Vegas thinks. 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:08.559 All right, Vegas is is is giving you uh plus 750 on Jameer Gibbs as of now as the offensive player of the year for 2026. 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:10.799 Where does that rank amongst all offensive players? 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:24.720 He is the first uh most likely most likely to receive that bajan robinson at 800 plus 800, uh Jamar Chase at 850, and Puka Nakua at plus 1100. 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:30.559 So um we're gonna dip the pinky toe in the water there with the with the first hot take, but I like it. 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:32.559 Uh it's it's a good hot take. 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:40.000 I think you know Drew Petsing uh like is here to get the most out of Jameer Gibbs, right? 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:44.079 And like that's been talked about quite a bit where he's gonna utilize him quite a bit. 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.559 Um this is kind of a weird one because I was thinking about this. 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:50.160 Um, I made this. 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.920 We're sitting here, we're we're we've been doing our homework thinking about this. 00:17:54.160 --> 00:18:01.200 Um, but there's a name on this list that might end up being very prominent based on the breaking news tonight. 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:16.720 So um, my first thought take is the the rookie defensive trio of Derek Moore, Jimmy Rolder, and Keith Abney will be playing meaningful snaps in games that matter. 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:19.839 Um so let me just give you a breakdown of these guys. 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:27.359 Again, Derek Moore led Michigan in both sacks, tackles for a loss, despite playing under 40 snaps per game. 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.440 Michigan rotated guys. 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:34.160 They had first wave, they had second wave, they actually had third wave.

00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.559 They really believed in keeping guys fresh throughout the game. 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.519 Um posted a 17.5% pressure rate, one of the best in the Big Ten. 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:47.359 Um playing opposite of Hutchinson uh means offensive can't slide protection his way. 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.000 So in college, everything slid his way. 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:55.680 Um in Detroit, everything slides Aiden's way to an extreme level. 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.240 So he's gonna be out basically. 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:05.200 I mean, he has to win some of his one-on-ones, and um you know, Holmes traded up for him. 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:10.480 Um this is not a developmental edge that we're working with. 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:22.400 This is a guy that we saw, we took, he's an edge setter, he's a run stuffer, but he's also proven that he can get tackles for loss, sacks, and be a disruptor. 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:30.400 Um, so I think he finishes with you know somewhere in that seven, eight, nine, ten plus sacks on the year. 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:30.799 Okay. 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:37.440 Um, and and partially the credit should go to Aiden and you know the the middle of that defensive line as well. 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.559 Um, but he's gonna be the guy that they're like, you know what? 00:19:40.880 --> 00:19:44.640 Make this guy beat us, and I think he's gonna win that battle. 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:46.160 So that's guy number one. 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:46.880 Number one. 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:47.119 Okay. 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:48.400 Do you have a comment there? 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:49.599 I I like it. 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:58.559 Like uh Jimmy, uh sorry, Derek Moore is uh the guy that when we drafted him, I had some question marks and I had to go back and do some of my my homework. 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:13.279 Um, and I the more I'm more I'm watching this guy, and the more I I you know go back and watch those Michigan games, uh, outside of just being a fan, but but more of being like doing that research, um, you find that he he's a player. 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:13.680 Yeah. 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:16.000 So yeah, so excited about that. 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.400 Um, second is Jimmy Rolder. 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:20.720 Um, again, I'll give you a little background on him. 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:27.440 Um, led Michigan tackles last year, 73 tackles, um, had an interception, solid in coverage. 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.519 Coaches are already been praising him. 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:34.799 He's been name-dropped multiple times by coaches, players uh during spring practice. 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.039 Recorded a pick during mini camp. 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:37.519 Okay. 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.319 Um, classic Dan Campbell traits. 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:41.680 One of the reasons they drafted him. 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.119 You know, smart, physical, he has special teams value. 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:53.200 Um, I think he wins a role similar to when Malcolm Rodriguez was playing his most football with Detroit his rookie year. 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:53.759 Okay. 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:56.319 So meaningful snaps. 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.400 Um, and last, uh give me a chance to any any comment there. 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:01.279 No, not yet. 00:21:01.519 --> 00:21:01.680 Okay. 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:02.000 Go ahead. 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:03.920 Uh Keith Abney. 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:13.279 Uh this uh defensive back plays multiple positions, has played corner, has played nickel, has played safety. 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:21.279 Um last year, 21 pass breakups, five interceptions over his uh last, I guess, 25 stars. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:27.839 First team all Big 12, known for being physical, being versatile, ultra athletic. 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:32.000 Um Lions love DBs who can play multiple spots. 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:40.799 Just so happens that some guy might be boxed out by some steel bars, and there might be some more opportunity to play. 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:41.119 Right. 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:53.200 So I'm thinking, you know, I I was thinking by you know Thanksgiving, December, Abney's getting on the field and in some kind of regular third down package, nickel package. 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:57.680 That could be pressed a little bit forward with the news that we're talking about right now. 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:58.799 And that's fair. 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:01.920 And I I don't know yet. 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:13.680 I would have to see because I I love Roger McCreary and what he is bringing to that slot position right now and what he has to offer in his at least his experience. 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:17.039 He still has it. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.599 It sounds like he he can play. 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:25.920 And I would say that that slot position is going to be tough to overtake him right now. 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:32.960 And then you can also offer Brian Branch if he ever comes back and still has that opportunity to fill in that role too. 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.839 As a backup, you know, or as a as a as a last case scenario. 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.160 Outside, I would say it's going to deal with health, right? 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:46.400 You still have Rocky Sin, who I think fits very well into the scheme. 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.400 And Kelvin Shepard likes likes Rock, what he has to offer. 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:54.480 He's not the highest of high, but he's definitely not the lowest of low. 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.400 So he just is steady. 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:57.519 Solid as a rock. 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:01.440 So consistent. 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:11.279 And if you tap into an NSR who we have not seen yet, if that guy can stay healthy, you know, you you might have lightning in a bottle. 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.200 So it would be tough to crack those two spots, but maybe. 00:23:16.079 -->

00:23:16.400 Maybe. 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.160 And it's a hot take. 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:19.599 So I get it. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:22.799 And then rolling back a little bit to Jimmy Rolder. 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:25.039 I'm interested. 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:30.400 I I definitely heard the name pop up with coaches, and I like that about him. 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.359 I like the the praise that they're giving him. 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:47.759 I just also know that Kelvin Shepard, and we'll get into this in a second, is gonna be a little bit more apt to adjust and not play that three-backer scheme or that base scheme nearly as much. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:55.200 He's going to go to the nickel because I think that's who we have, the the the personnel who can support that. 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:59.440 And so that limiting the meaningful snaps. 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:03.759 So is he gonna overtake then Derek Barnes at that spot? 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:06.640 That would be that would be your question mark. 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:07.279 Surprising. 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:08.319 It's gonna be surprising. 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:09.599 Shepard loves Barnes, right? 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:10.000 Exactly. 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:10.880 He's on record, yeah. 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:13.759 Shepard says, like, he's my he's my little brother. 00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:16.000 You know, he's he's a guy that he looks after. 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.559 He he wants to give him every opportunity to be successful. 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.839 Um, so overtaking Derek Barnes is gonna be difficult. 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:24.079 Yeah. 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:29.599 Unless an injury happens or Derek Barnes just can't get the job done. 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:36.799 So I think you know, when we are recording this podcast later on, we'll be talking about uh Brad Holmes' masterclass draft. 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:40.480 You know, we haven't talked about the first rounder and what he's gonna do. 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.599 In this podcast, we've talked about a previous podcast, uh, Blake Miller. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.759 Um, but I think we're gonna get back to like, well, Brad Holmes, like at it. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:51.279 You hit this one out of the park. 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.119 So Brian's hot take number two. 00:24:53.440 --> 00:25:01.759 All right, so I'm looking at the defensive side of the ball, which is interesting to say because we developed these hot takes before the TA news. 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:08.799 But even with the TA news, I'm gonna say that the Detroit Lions are a top 10 defense in the NFL. 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:10.720 They are woo. 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:29.920 Can you imagine let's be honest though, last year, even with Dan Campbell calling plays, um, they fired John Morton or pushed him into the booth, they the yeah, they were still a top five offense. 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:30.880 Yeah. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:42.640 So now if you pair

uh uh an offensive like that, who I feel like got better, with a top ten defense, the sky's the limit. 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:50.160 A top ten defense, I mean, you're talking, you know, the you're hitting the button on a potential Super Bowl contender. 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:51.519 You and we'll get to there too. 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:51.839 Okay. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.200 Okay, we'll get to there too. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:58.000 But uh, I'm looking at, okay, a healthy Ali McNeil. 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.200 There is such a difference, and I've said it before, but I'll say it again. 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:13.119 There is such a difference between your off-season prep work when you're rehabbing an injury versus your off-season prep work when you are healthy and ready to prepare for the next season. 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.240 He's ready to prepare for the next season. 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.759 And he, if you ask him, you've seen it in his interviews as well. 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.559 Night and day difference right now. 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.119 Same with Aiden Hutchinson. 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.960 Like, he's not rehabbing anymore, he's getting better, you know. 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:38.799 DJ more our DJ Reed is is uh gone through his his rehabs, he's getting healthy, he's he's getting better, you know. 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:47.839 So we have these guys in spots that are now healthy that we were expecting to be top of their game when they came back, but they just weren't. 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:58.720 So before you hit that button online super bowl and you're buying into this hype, let me tell you why it's a hot take. 00:26:58.960 --> 00:26:59.279 Okay. 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.160 We just talked about Terry and Arnold. 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:02.559 Yeah. 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:03.119 Okay. 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.960 We talked about uh Enos Rakstraw. 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:11.759 Like I you gotta see something before you you can believe something, right? 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:12.799 Completely agree. 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.200 Um, we talked about Brian Branch. 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.640 Is he gonna be a contributor by December? 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:32.319 I think with the depth, depth, depth that we've created, we are have made it available for us to get to week five or six and bring Brian Branch and not force him back fast. 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.480 So five or six, that's yeah, that's early. 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:39.119 That's early in the in the in the timeline, right? 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:46.160 But I'm also hearing other stories about Brian Branch looking looking good, not not healthy, but but good in this process. 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.039 Was he chewing on bark with Aaron Rodgers getting that all? 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:50.240 He might have been, you know. 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.559 Aaron Rodgers came back quick too from an Achilles. 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.119 He can't run, but he he

came back quick. 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.799 So different style of athlete. 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.160 So also, also, Kirby Joseph. 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.920 Uh, he's not, I mean, he's testing it out. 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:09.039 Uh you know, we we're gone, a DJ like there's reader. 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.759 There's a there's a lot of question marks. 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:24.240 Uh, and and if what I'm saying is true, with we're gonna rely on a rookie edge, we're gonna talk about a rookie third linebacker, Keith Abney's gonna play some meaningful snaps. 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:29.359 Um, basically, what you're saying is like, you know, hey, we have depth. 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:36.799 You're basically saying our number twos are so good, they're better than two-thirds of the league's number ones. 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.880 I don't, I no, I can't say that. 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:46.400 I can't say that, but together as a unit, I believe that they can play to that level. 00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.759 Okay, I want to be the devil's advocate for your appreciate that. 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.359 So I do think that Kirby comes back and gives gives us something. 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.799 I don't know if he gives us a full season, but he gives us something. 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.920 Brian Branch, as the season goes on, will give us something as well. 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:09.279 Again, we talked just talked about Alien McNeil and and Aiden Hutchinson and you know DJ Reed coming off of injury and being healthy. 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:14.799 He is not gonna be the Brian Branch of the beginning of last season or or before. 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:20.160 He's gonna be coming off of injury and rehabbing and continuing to work back into form. 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:24.960 We're hoping that he can be the Brian Branch we know by playoffs. 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.359 Yeah, that um I like it. 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.720 That makes me excited. 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.160 I'd be very happy if that happens. 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:40.559 So um, my hot take, number two, okay, Sam Laporta finishes at a top three NFL tight end. 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:49.039 Oh, so I'm talking 90 plus catches, a thousand yards, and finishes in the top three at the position. 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:56.079 And there's some extremely intriguing tight ends out there that put up staggering numbers, right? 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:06.559 And so that let me ask you this like might not be on your list right now, but there's already been negotiations with San Laporta in contracts. 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.720 Do do we sign him now? 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:14.319 You better strike right now while you got the injury stink all over this guy, right? 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:19.039 Um, so Drew Petzing uh built Arizona's offense around tight ends. 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:27.839 Arizona ranked uh top 10 in 12 personnel usage and number one in 13 personnel usage uh last year. 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:37.279 Um Trey McBride led the league in tight end targets, tight end receptions, um, and receiving yards in 2025. 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.480 I'm Capboy David's advocate with this as well. 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:44.799 Yeah, you can let me get through a couple more bullet points and then and then well. 00:30:44.960 --> 00:31:01.599 But if you have something that you are right there hot and bothered on, like we talk about 10, 12, 13 personnel with Drew Pet Sing a ton, but we're we're talking about that because he's coming from Arizona who didn't have a wide receiver who could catch a ball, right? 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:10.960 So when we say Drew Pet Sing relied or developed 13 personnel, yeah, because the three tight ends were his best players. 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:26.480 And if we if he had an Aman Ras A Brown, uh Jameson Williams, and uh uh Isaac Tesla, in addition to Sam Laporta, I I'm guessing, I'm I'm only guessing, that he wouldn't run 13 personnel nearly as much. 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.440 So do you think the Lions are top 10 in the league in 13 personnel? 00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:32.079 No. 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:40.640 Okay, so like this guy is known to find some success with it, and we have a actually an upgraded tight end room. 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:46.240 I believe that Drew Petsang is known for finding what works for his team. 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:53.599 Okay, and so if that means he's going to f force what works that he's had in the past, then I don't want him anymore. 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:55.599 I want him to work with what he has. 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.839 And I I I like Tyler Conklin, I think he's okay, you know. 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:06.799 I like Brock Wright, I think he's okay, but he is not he's not Sam Laporta. 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:11.599 All right, so we uh you know he's definitely not Trey McBride, you know, those guys. 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:17.279 So what we have is a good tight end, number one, and we have some support for him. 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.319 Yeah, we also have some really good wide receivers, there's no doubt about it. 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:31.680 Okay, so um, and those wide receivers will take pressure off of the tight end, which he's really figured out good ways to locate those tight ends. 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:37.440 Um, I I do think the Lions are gonna have a good offense this year. 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:48.319 I think they're gonna struggle on defense, and I think what better way to help a defense out than grinding it out on offense and killing clock, right? 00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:52.000 So, again, that's targeting your tight ends, targeting your tight ends. 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:56.400 Keep your tight ends out there, letting Jameer Gibbs eat to your first hot take. 00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:03.440 Um, so Lions specifically noted when they hired Petsy and he prioritizes tight ends. 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.160 That was one of the bullet points that they

talked about, right? 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.640 So um Conklin, right, they're they're they're heavier, they're bigger. 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:15.359 They can go those big packages and they can feature Laporta in those packages. 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.200 They can be your blocking tight ends. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.640 Laporta, you know, he's at prime years of his career. 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.759 Um, Goff trusts him, he's already earned that trust. 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.480 You know, Goff's been around for 11 years. 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:36.880 He this is going into his 11th season, and he he understands you know where his bread is buttered, and and Laporta's a guy that he's come to trust. 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:42.799 Um, defenses, they gotta account for Gibbs, they gotta account for Amon Ross St. 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.359 Brown, yeah, they gotta account for J-mo. 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:46.000 I agree. 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.359 Tesla's gonna stick his big frame in there, they gotta account for him. 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.160 There's gonna be there's gonna be space on the field for a guy. 00:33:52.319 --> 00:34:03.839 So I think Petsing is going to take that familiarity with McBride, and and McBride didn't break out really until he's about Laporta's tenure in the NFL. 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.920 And he's gonna say, you know what, I got I gotta I got a McBride Jr. 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.719 And I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna feed him. 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:11.119 Okay. 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.880 And I'm not gonna disagree that Sam Laporta is gonna get his. 00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:22.000 I the only thing that I'm going to to disagree with is the the personnel that he'll use in order to feed him. 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:33.280 I think he's going to utilize Amin Ra and J Mo to take the top off and Gibbs to to spread the the defense in order to still feature Sam Laporta. 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:33.840 Okay. 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:34.400 All right. 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:39.119 Um, some data, you know, to if you want to take this to your betting app. 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:40.400 We don't condone betting. 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.480 We're not a betting advice. 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:43.599 Podcast. 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:50.480 Um, if you want to put a uh a one or two shackle as in a dollar bill or two dollar bills. 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.280 Um uh comeback player of the year. 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.679 Uh Sam Laporte is listed on the you know the top 20, 25 people. 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.000 He's coming in at plus five thousand. 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.639 So an outside shot right there, you know. 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.440 Uh put your dollar in now. 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:14.960 The big names ahead of him are Mahomes, Jaden Daniels, Kyler Murray, Malik Neighbors, Daniel Jones, Micah Parsons. 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.000 Um uh but there's some guys down there. 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:19.119 George Kittle. 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.440 There's some guys down there, Laura Bosa. 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.199 Yeah, so all right. 00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:31.760 So, anyways, you know, um I guess I'll go back to back here and I'll tie in my first take with another take. 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:32.880 This will be quick. 00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:41.119 Um this supports defense, so I don't want to talk about two sides of the mouth, but you can see it. 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.119 I smell what you're stepping in, Brian. 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:44.000 Thank you. 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:56.719 Um and I talked a little bit about Derek Moore at the beginning, and we haven't given enough, we haven't put enough respect on the interior of the Lions defensive line yet. 00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:08.239 Um, but because of that, I think the Lions lead the NFL and sacks and produce two double-digit sat guys this year. 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:08.800 Okay. 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.280 Um Hutchinson's healthy. 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.079 Is he your first double-digit sack guy? 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.079 Um Hutchinson is my first double-digit sack guy. 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.880 Matter of fact, he could get, you know, that the guy is good enough to go for 20, right? 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:23.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:30.639 But because he's so good, you got the guy on the other side that's just gonna get like a tremendous opportunity to make some plays. 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.480 Um you you got some guys in the middle that are just gonna collapse the pocket. 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:41.519 They're gonna have the quarterback scrambling out, and and and the lines are gonna clean up on the edge. 00:36:41.840 --> 00:37:05.519 Um, and hopefully we get a little bit better secondary play than last year, um, which buys those edges a little bit more time to and I'm a still a true believer that the more you pressure a quarterback, the less the less you need your DBs to hold their ground, to to be tight in those in those times. 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:12.639 Um before we were like we were not getting pressured in a timely manner, allowing our corners to have to cover for longer, right? 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:19.280 Hopefully, we can get a uh a little bit better of a pressure rate, a quicker pressure rate, and allow our corners to cover for less. 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.800 So we were we're famously wrong on the Davenport call, right? 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:23.679 We were way wrong. 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:24.800 We were way wrong. 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.280 Um and uh there's it's all on record, right? 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.559 There's nothing we can say about it. 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:35.440 Yeah, um, but I'm we're gonna be so right on this one, man. 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.320 Um so I I feel good about it. 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.960 Um I I I think you can you know you can press the button on uh on the the Lions. 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:55.119

Um I I think I don't know what the the data suggests, but Derek Moore could be a sneaky defensive rookie of the year type guy because he's probably getting pretty good odds. 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:59.840 But Brian, I don't want to take away you have a uh final bonus hot take. 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.599 Final bonus hot take. 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:10.320 The Detroit Lions, our Detroit Lions are gonna make it back to the NFC Championship game. 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:11.199 Yep. 00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:34.800 I think with a with a fourth place schedule going into this season, I think they come out of it with a 12-5 regular season record, they win the NFC North, and they are in a pretty good spot to meet the LA Rams in the NFC Championship game. 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.280 That would be dramatic, right? 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.920 That'd make for great cinema. 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:40.400 Yep. 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.519 They met in the playoffs before, you got the Stafford narrative, you got the golf narrative. 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.800 Um Woo! Yep. 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.559 Uh the podcast before and after, you won't want to miss that one. 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:54.320 I'm excited. 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.719 I don't I'm sweating bullets already thinking about it. 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:12.800 So yeah, so uh and the NFC winner by Vegas is Rams are plus 295, the probable first place kind of but the Lions are plus 930, and they're in the top five, uh coming in at fifth. 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:17.760 So um man, what a dichotomy of a podcast. 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.480 We we start off with real tough news on TA. 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.239 Um, and maybe if we could put a bow on it, is that man? 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.719 I think the Lions, um, you you you said it earlier, they they've got a lot more depth this year. 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.800 So um I don't think missing TA, and I we're we're a better team with him. 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.360 I don't think missing him is going to tank the season. 00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:42.960 I think there's a couple other guys that like would really, really hurt. 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:53.599 You know, if Gibbs goes down, if Goff goes down, um, if Penet goes down, if Hutch goes down, that's like, hey, we might as well play for next year. 00:39:53.840 --> 00:40:02.800 I think you know, TA goes down, it's like, well, we didn't see much of them last year, and um maybe we'll have less defensive holdings this year, right? 00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:07.840 Um yeah, I I can't I couldn't say it better myself. 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.400 Well, it's because you said that yourself, yeah. 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:17.519 So um in uh Brian, a couple other fun data points I was just kind of pulling off. 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:26.320 Um, Protector of the Year, Pinnae's uh best odds at plus 500 to be the best offensive lineman, hypothetically, this year. 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.400 Um, one thing I found interesting is Coach of the Year. 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.840 Um John Harbaugh is uh number one at plus six hundred. 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.360 Number two is Jesse Minter at plus nine hundred. 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:49.679 You gotta scroll way, way down at plus 2800, and you get a Dan Campbell down there, um, which is pretty fascinating. 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.320 I think he is in the scheme of things, he's on the lower half of that. 00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:00.800 So um with a fourth place schedule, that could be kind of a fun one to kind of play around with a little bit. 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.760 Um Pistons trade away beef stew today for three second rounders. 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:17.199 First, first overall or first round pick was first round pick, uh Aquare out of uh Stanford, they traded up for him. 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:18.559 17 overall. 00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:24.079 Yeah, draft coverage is terrible because there are so many trades going on. 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:31.119 Brian, you you were talking, I don't I don't need you to recite it perfectly, but like talk about the second round picks in the NFL quickly. 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:33.039 So they were talking about the second round picks. 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:45.199 I heard this on the radio, and uh they're talking about of the 30 second-round picks, only four of them stayed with the team that actually had them to start with. 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.559 So 26 of those picks had been traded. 00:41:48.880 --> 00:42:00.639 And of those 26 picks, they had been traded not just once, like 26 times, but they've been traded multiple times, upwards in the 70s of times. 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.159 There was uh we were talking, I was talking about it before this. 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:10.559 There was one particular pick that was traded back and forth between the same team upwards to eight times. 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:11.920 So that's wild. 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.239 That they treat their picks quite a bit differently. 00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.599 You know, we talk about Campbell being willy-nilly with his picks. 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.039 Yeah, yeah, the NBA with their second rounders, it's just wild. 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.440 Um, Tigers news, stick a fork in them. 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:25.440 They're done. 00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.719 Lost again today. 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:28.800 Lost they lost a scuble start. 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.320 They should trade Scoobyl. 00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.159 Um, put a fork in them. 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.320 Um Red Wings News. 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.400 Um Larkin. 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:37.760 Is he gonna get traded? 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.360 Are they gonna force him to stay? 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.039 Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:42.320 Interesting stuff. 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:49.920 Brian Gunn, uh, if you're an odds maker and I gave you even money on Larkin being a Red Wing next year, which side would you take? 00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.840 I'm leaning towards they're going to make Larkin a Red Wing next year. 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:54.480 Okay, yeah. 00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.639 I'm on the same side of that. 00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:57.199 Yeah. 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.159 Um anything else that you want to talk about? 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.800 Um, just again, we ask you to like the podcast. 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:05.760 Uh, subscribe. 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:07.519 How couldn't you like this podcast? 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.440 It's great, it's a fun podcast. 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:12.719 We're bringing you that fire, that that that heat. 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:21.039 Phil, you know, Phil, share this with your co-workers, your grandmothers, your all the people. 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.760 Um pass this podcast on. 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:24.960 We're gonna get Phil on the podcast. 00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:25.679 I like it. 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:26.159 I like it. 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:34.960 Um, so uh Lalone, you know, when you're up in the sky, can you fly a banner with passing time behind us? 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:45.360 You know, like Baki, can you hand out you know your medical results and then put on, you know, it would reduce your anxiety if you followed the podcast, you know? 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:52.800 T-Rob and all your traveling to Minnesota, maybe we can get popular over there with all of our love for JJ McCarthy. 00:43:53.119 --> 00:44:01.760 I know we haven't been featuring Bill the last few few pods, but Bill, hand it out to all the kids that are going to your PE class, you know? 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:02.960 Come on now, help us out. 00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.960 Bill, you're on the back of a milk card, man. 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:09.920 I don't know if we're gonna donate a whole segment to you next year, so you gotta show some love over here to the pod. 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:11.199 You gotta show up. 00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.840 You gotta just sit alongside us for one time. 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:14.719 One time. 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.679 I know it's the Mount Rushmore podcasters. 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.119 It's hard to sit next to us. 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.360 Alone, you can you can relate to that. 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.760 But hey, uh like, subscribe, follow, listen, have some fun with us. 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:30.800 Um, we're gonna try to bring the heat, um, both in the tough times and the good times. 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:33.039 We were here all last year. 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.639 Uh, we'll be here all this year. 00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:36.000 So um, cheers. 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:37.519 Thanks for passing time with us. 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.159 We are a Detroit Lions podcast. 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.000 Stay gritty, go lions. 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.440 See you next week.