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next five years, you feel me? 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:26.800 Maybe 10, you know what I mean? 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:29.680 But yeah, yeah, I wish you would say that. 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:36.399 I feel like the way you would move move in that kind of like with that guidance is like say everything you touch is like gold. 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:37.519 Yeah, obviously. 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:38.959 You would move different, yeah. 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.720 Like after having the gameplay, you're like, okay, no, yeah, I need that's it. 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.279 You wouldn't even worry about the next step, bro. 00:05:45.759 --> 00:06:03.680 Like, even if your car crashed, you're like, we already know what's coming, you mean like do you think there's like it's like kind of like the railing, but do you think there's people who kind of operate in maybe like not five years, but in a shorter sense, maybe even a week, a day, a few hours. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:12.800 Yeah, I think anybody that is willing to wait on the Lord for the day is always advantaged to know what the day holds, right? 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:22.160 Um, Jesus Christ knew the disciples that he should choose to become apostles because of the fact that he waited on the Lord all night, right? 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:28.560 So, um, even I believe it's uh Ephesians chapter five, verse seventeen. 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.279 Um it talks about you know, do not be ignorant, know the will of the Lord, right? 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:43.120 So knowing the mind of God and the plans of God for your life is not supposed to be it's not supposed to be, you know, arbitrary, right? 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:48.720 Like if you are willing to wait on the Lord, he is willing to speak to you about your day. 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:52.560 I've experienced it at least, so can speak that up. 00:06:53.360 --> 00:07:13.279 So how would you say like that's different than like is it kind of like that kind of same feeling where everything you touch is like gold compared to like other days, or is it like assuredness in how like maybe not everything may go perfect in like a human sense, but it's an assuredness that you know like everything's gonna be like alright? 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:24.079 Uh I think I'll preface it by saying that just because you know what's going to happen, it doesn't mean that it's the preferred thing for you or your preference per se, right? 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:39.680 Um, so you know, just because you know your you and your boss are gonna get in an argument, maybe God is just telling you, like, hey, um, just have patience in this moment and don't let it derail you from the purposes that I sent you to the business, right? 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:47.199 Because realistically speaking, you can crash out and you would be justified because maybe your boss is out of uh out of pocket, right? 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:53.360 But the Lord revealed it to you so you can be of the right heart posture for when you encounter it. 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.360 So in that moment, you don't feel like you're touching gold, right? 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:02.399 But you feel prepared for what's about to come, you know what I mean? 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.560 And that's interesting because something happened last year. 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:08.000 You guys know what I'm talking about. 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:18.000 I'll tell you how that can't get but but something happened, and so a prophetess in my church said, Someone is going to upset you this week. 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:18.959 Don't fall into it. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:29.040 It took it, and when I told you, I've never been that mad in my life where where it's like I'm somebody that's calm, but that would have been a moment that I crashed out. 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:36.559 Yeah, but because I I I've already been like ready for something to happen, I wasn't as mad as I should have been. 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.000 Right, right, right, right, right, right. 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.039 It prepares you. 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:40.559 That literally happened last year. 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:41.360 It's crazy. 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:42.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:51.039 Oh, I would um want a text to be um, this is your purpose, this is how you should go about getting to that purpose. 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:52.960 Yeah, yeah, fair. 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:55.039 That's a good one. 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.000 It's crazy because I even forgot my own question. 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.279 Uh, if God sent you one text right now, what do you hope it says? 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:06.000 I just wanted to say that don't worry, you're good. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.120 I think after that, I don't need to know more. 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.120 I just need to keep doing what I'm doing. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:14.720 Just know, okay, like you're good. 00:09:14.960 --> 00:09:16.799 Like how your moving is. 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:31.039 Yeah, because then if I get that text, I know, okay, I'm doing probably not everything right, but I'm doing I'm kind of doing what I'm supposed to do, and everything else I shouldn't even have to like worry as much. 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:36.000 Like all of the things that I'm worrying about in my heart, it's just okay, just relax, you're good. 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:43.440 Would you say that that's the same thing that the text scripture in in general says though? 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:48.559 I I agree, but hearing it like Yeah, no, I get it. 00:09:48.879 --> 00:10:03.039 Personally, yeah, is is even though yes, like this book is personal to us, but I think hearing it in that moment would mean not more to me, but the world to me, like in that specific moment. 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:04.000 I'll explain it. 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:04.720 That's beautiful. 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:05.440 No, I get it. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:06.320 But yeah, I get it. 00:10:06.559 -->

00:10:17.200 I've been kind of thinking about like what you had mentioned, like in terms of like, even if you know like what's ahead of you is not necessarily like great, like there's still like kind of like a piece you have. 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:17.600 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:26.399 I thought of like Paul when he said that I forgot what verse, but he was he was saying that I know like I'm going to face persecution where I'm going. 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.840 And it's like, how can like I feel like human mind, it's hard to wrap your head around that. 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:33.600 A human would just say, Don't go. 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:37.039 Yeah, but he knows that this is the will of God for me, I must go. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:44.320 Yeah, I mean, they literally told him, like, yo, like this is what's gonna you're gonna be like this, this is what's gonna happen to you. 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:48.720 He's like, yo, this the spirit expressly says, however, I must go. 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:55.759 Is it like a kind of nonchalance then in at that point, or is it like I already know the outcome? 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:05.440 So it's it's a disposition to truly fulfill the will of God past yourself, right? 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:08.320 Um, I was talking to someone about this earlier today. 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:16.159 Um, you know, if if anyone seeks to be my disciples, he must first deny himself, take up his cross and follow after me, right? 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:27.679 So even when you know there's trouble ahead for you on your outer man, because you know that the will of God is for you to be in that place, you deny yourself. 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.799 You pick up your cross and you follow after him. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:32.399 What is the after him? 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:35.519 The mind of God is that you be there, right? 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:51.919 So even though it will cost you something, it will cost you your freedom, as a matter of fact, while it's costing you your freedom, I have you in jail writing letters that will actually establish the Gentiles hundreds of years from now, right? 00:11:52.240 --> 00:12:02.000 Because if you're always ministering from town to town to town, when do you get to write letters to reflect and break down the revelation to which we all get to enjoy right now? 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:02.399 Right? 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:09.679 So, like that's I believe that that's the highest form of following God's plans for your life. 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:17.840 It might not necessarily always result in your comfort, but it always results in God's will being executed. 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:19.679 Yeah, yeah. 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.639 So kind of like Jesus on the cross. 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:23.200 Yep. 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:25.440 Yeah, perfect. 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.720 That point, I feel like that point is that's crazy. 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:35.919 Like it's like ultimately taking like do

not fear those who can destroy the body, like to its like utmost limit. 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:40.240 Like am I there yet? 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:48.799 I don't know, but it's it I I think all of us have the checkpoint to where we're not there yet. 00:12:48.960 --> 00:13:00.320 Like we all, like, maybe all of us will be willing to sacrifice our life, but we will we all be willing to sacrifice the life of someone that we feel protective over, right? 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.159 Let's just say for my wife, like I love my wife to death. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:11.519 I don't think that the ministry that God has placed on my life should be a consequence to her. 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:12.799 You get me? 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:28.000 So, like, if God asks me, okay, I want you to spend the next five days praying and fasting concerning this, don't you know entertain anything else. 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:29.840 Sometimes I feel bad. 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:30.320 Why? 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:37.600 Because my wife is sitting on the couch by herself watching TV when she's actually looking for a companion. 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:42.799 But realistically speaking, God said, Go lock in for five days, right? 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.360 So it's it's it's a harder thing. 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:56.960 Everybody has that one thing or those things where you know it's gonna really be expensive, and you have to cross that road of like, man, am I there yet? 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:58.000 You feel me? 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.519 Everybody has a am I there yet thing that they don't want to sacrifice? 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:15.200 I always thought, like, is that a representation of something that is not a God before God in a sense, but it's something that you hold dearly that you're willing to kind of not listen to God for? 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:17.600 Yeah, to an extent. 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:24.000 I mean, even Jesus Christ was in the Garden of Gethsemane, and he was like, Nah, you know, if this cup can pass, let it. 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:26.879 But nevertheless, not my will, but your will be done. 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:32.960 Okay, it's interesting because like I had like a small glimpse of something like that last year happened to me. 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.120 Again, these guys know about it. 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.879 But but people wronged me, right? 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:45.679 And God had me go go and go and apologize to the people that wronged me when I didn't do anything. 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:46.240 Right. 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:54.240 And mind you, I was in my room and I was physically like shaking because I was like, I was talking to the guy, I was like, no, I'm not like I'm not doing this. 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.840 I didn't, I know truthfully in my heart that I did nothing wrong. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.879 So why would you have me go and apologize that I did not wrong? 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:02.399 Yeah, but whatever. 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:04.960 Mind you, this took months for me to even do it. 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.399 Yeah, but I did it, yeah, and I was met with no response. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:14.799 I said to God, this is this is why why would you have me do this if this was gonna be the end end result? 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.799 But even with that, like going through that taught me a lot. 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:22.960 Yeah, that okay, like when God needs you to do something, just do it. 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:25.679 Like, I shouldn't have even waited three months to do it. 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:32.000 I should have just did it then and just cleaned my hands off of it and just moved on, and that's it. 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:36.799 Yeah, but I took a long time, but that was kind of the closest thing I've gotten to that, to something like that. 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:40.639 And those are the steps that kill you on the inside. 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:49.919 They kill your pride, they kill your ego, they kill yourself, the identity that you find outside of Christ, those are the things that will kill you. 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.240 Yeah, yeah, most definitely. 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:58.799 Oh, okay. 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.360 So now we're gonna do our dilemma portion of the podcast. 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:04.720 So I have one dilemma. 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.279 It's called the Missionary Son. 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.200 A missionary couple spends decades overseas serving God. 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:17.679 Their son grows up feeling neglected and eventually leaves the faith, believing ministry mattered more to his parents than he did. 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.120 Were the parents faithful or did they fail their son? 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:38.720 So the son feels that he's been neglected from his parents because they prioritized ministry over their relationship with him? 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:39.919 Yeah, is that what it is? 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.279 Were they faithful to God or were they did they fail their son? 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:56.399 I feel like I don't have an answer now, but kind of like a immediate question I had was like, is isn't being a son like a father also a ministry? 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.440 Or like I f yeah, I definitely would say so. 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:11.359 But like when you have a calling that, like when you have a calling like that, I think Richard, you also brought up the point it was like a few months ago about was it Benny no Billy Graham? 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:14.400 Tell the story and I'll be able to tell you. 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:26.799 It was about like how Billy Graham's ministry got like so big, and like I think after he passed, his wife or his family like spoke about how like he wasn't like as present in the household. 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:28.400 There was a cost to it, yeah, yeah. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:36.480 But you know, that's the power of you know raising a

family as a a unit, right? 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:41.680 Because like at the end of the day, there there has to be some trade-offs. 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:50.000 You can't forget your home ministry because of your external ministry, and you can't forget your external ministry because of your home ministry, right? 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:54.480 The real fact of the matter is being a husband is a ministry, right? 00:17:54.799 --> 00:18:01.759 But the purpose of that ministry is to fulfill God's mandate on you guys' life, right? 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:10.640 A wife is a help meet to the husband, so you guys can accomplish, you know, tending to the field to where God has placed you guys, right? 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.000 So discovering the ministry, understanding what the ministry is about. 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:27.359 Sometimes you discover it prior to your spouse coming, sometimes you find out while your spouse is there, but it's your job as a man to communicate this is the vision, this is how we achieve it, and this is how we'll carry the family through it. 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:34.079 Like, look at Noah, has an assignment from God, his wife is in it, and so are his children. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:50.000 So it's one of those things where like you when God places something on you, you have to be diligent to understand timing, you know, um systems, you have to understand the blueprint to how you achieve this. 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:56.400 Because I don't believe it's God's will for you to lose your son to win a bunch of souls, right? 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.640 So the question then becomes for me why wasn't your son with you? 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:01.759 Right? 00:19:02.079 --> 00:19:03.680 Like, why didn't you take your son with you? 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:10.880 Why didn't your wife stay home and you go and then you come home and sh and she goes, right? 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.519 There's a better strategy than just oh, we both have to go at the same time. 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:25.920 No, yeah, may perhaps sometimes, but again, who do you have at home that reinforces the parents' love to the child? 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:26.640 Yeah, right. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:28.400 You feel me? 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.559 Like where's grandma that will enforce it? 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:39.039 Where's sister, brother, cousin, whatever you want to call it, that will reinforce the love for the child, right? 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:46.559 Like, okay, hey, this thing I'm buying for you, your parents sent money for me to buy this thing for you, right? 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:50.799 And then we speak frequently, hey son, why don't you come up during the summer times? 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:51.920 You know what I mean? 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:53.519 Maybe it's dangerous, okay. 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:54.559 We gotta go home. 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:54.960 Why? 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.599 Because if somebody does not take care of his household, he's worse than an infidel, right? 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:02.240 That's what that's what scripture says, right? 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.680 So you have to be able to take care of your own, your household. 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:10.559 Yeah, it's it it is the first requirement of ministry. 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:23.279 Like any like when when Paul speaks to Timothy in Tim 1 Timothy chapter 2, it talks about if you want to be a deacon, if you want to be an elder, a bishop, or whatever you want to call it, you have to rule your house well. 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:34.000 So you're trying to attend to the bride of Christ, but the aspect of the bride of Christ that you are actually fully responsible for, you're not handling it. 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.359 Doesn't make sense. 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:46.160 So, how I would answer the question is they've been faithful to an aspect of their ministry, but they've neglected neglected another aspect of their ministry. 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:52.240 Do you think in that situation, God would give you the wisdom and how to navigate that situation and balance everything? 00:20:52.480 --> 00:21:07.599 Most definitely I was gonna say, like, the first like big mistake was that like the son doesn't understand their ministry, doesn't understand their ministry, and I would also say though, so so in terms of what he said, he said as a result of that the son left the faith, right? 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.960 So then who like who's to blame for the son leaving the faith? 00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:19.759 Is it the fact that he didn't have examples of what of love? 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:30.880 Because it seems as though they're kind of just saying, okay, this is more important than you, so you kind of have to just wait on the sideline for now, even though you're my son, this is more important than you. 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:46.960 But then I also think that maybe the parents didn't show him Christ in the family, but they're showing uh Christ to other people outside of the family, if that makes sense. 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.119 Yeah, I would even question if the son really was part of the faith in the first place. 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:59.759 Because realistically speaking, if you come to know Jesus and you say, Jesus, I am leaving you because of what. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:00.400 They did. 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:02.400 They have not come to know Jesus. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:05.200 Simple fact of the matter. 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:06.880 So maybe the son left the church. 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:07.200 Yeah. 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:07.599 Right? 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:07.920 Yeah. 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:20.400 But realistically speaking, to renounce the death, the burial, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and his lordship for the sake of the fact that my parents weren't diligent to loving me. 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.200 Nah, you haven't met Jesus yet. 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:24.160 You haven't met Jesus. 00:22:24.240 -->

00:22:25.759 So what it's like. 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:30.079 I was thinking like that would be on the parents then for not leaving the right structure. 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:37.279 In the end, the the the thing says he left the faith because of them, right? 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:46.240 At the end of the day, like even if his parents were not his primary disciplers, he came to the faith because he encountered the Lord Jesus. 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:50.240 He believed that Jesus is real, right? 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.599 That he is alive and well, even in this day. 00:22:54.720 --> 00:23:04.720 And in leaving the faith, he says, I know Jesus is real, alive and well, but I choose to turn my back on Jesus because of people. 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:17.839 No matter how much somebody fails, right, to properly foster you in the faith. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.880 Now I understand we have babes in the faith, right? 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.200 That haven't really seen Christ, right? 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.160 That's why Paul says, imitate me as I imitate Christ. 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:33.359 Babes need a physical example to then see who Christ is, right? 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:35.440 So they need a physical example. 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:40.480 That's why we have leaders of the church, that's why we have teachers of the word and all of that. 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:46.720 Babes need to be fed the milk, just like a natural baby needs to be fed milk. 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:47.680 Right. 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:58.720 So I'm not trying to dispute the fact that there wasn't um there wasn't any need for the presence of the parents in that in in in regard to building their faith. 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.759 And that's where I think what the that the failure is. 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:13.599 The parents should have introduced a presence in his life, maybe they did, that would take it upon themselves as a responsibility to build the child in their absence, right? 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:15.279 To build the child in their faith. 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:23.599 If mommy and daddy have an international global ministry and they're all all over the place, you must have find somebody that can pastor your children. 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:25.839 Simple fact of the matter. 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:34.480 But in the end, when he stands before God, he will not be able to say, I left you because of my parents. 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:34.960 Yeah. 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:44.720 Would you like equate that to those people that say that, oh, because I've been hurt by the church, I left Christianity because of that. 00:24:45.119 --> 00:25:00.480 Because then I feel like, yes, those elders and people that may have caused you to leave the faith, they are an authority and they represent are supposed to represent Christ to you. 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:10.480 But I also think that you leaving because maybe that day they just did something that was wrong or something that may have been hypocritical. 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.640 And then as a result, you'd say, Oh wow, I don't want to be a Christian anymore. 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:24.079 I don't want to undermine undermine anybody because realistically speaking, everybody's case is different. 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:29.119 My this response would be very different to somebody that was molested in the church. 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:29.920 Yeah, for sure. 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:30.559 You feel me? 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:31.279 Makes sense. 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:44.960 And it would be very different for somebody that had to witness maybe the church, profess love, but then act in hatred towards a family member, towards their family, or whatever the case may be. 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:52.720 So I completely understand people that step away from the church, but in the end, when all this dust settles, there's only one question to answer. 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.400 Do you believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior? 00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:58.240 Simple fact of the matter. 00:25:58.559 --> 00:25:59.839 Yes, you left the church. 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:01.279 Yes, you are hurt. 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:10.079 But even your emotions, even your emotions can speak to the carnality of the faith that you are practicing, right? 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:27.519 Paul in 1 Corinthians chapter 1, 2, and 3, he talks to those, um, the people in the in Corinth, and he says, I want to give you strong meat, but seeing that you are still backbiting, going back and forth, choosing sides and all of that, I can't give you strong meat. 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:28.640 You're still a babe. 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.359 You're still carnal in your ways, right? 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:38.720 So, realistically speaking, when your emotions get in the way of your practice in the faith, then that means two things. 00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.240 Number one, that you are a carnal Christian, right? 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:47.440 Like you can't seem to get over how they treated you, how they made you feel. 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.960 So therefore, you cannot express your faith well. 00:26:51.279 --> 00:27:01.039 But even worst of all, number two, there is a deity in your heart that far exceeds God's command in your life, which is even more dangerous. 00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:20.559 However, to the people that are have been church hurt and have gone through all these things, I always entreat people like you have to sit down with yourself, sit down with a therapist, sit down with a person in the faith that you trust, and we have to unpack everything that happened. 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:24.480 Because this is one through one side one psychological truth. 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:30.000 You may not remember what somebody did to you, but you always remember how you feel. 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:57.839 So until we unpack everything that happened, right, in the context of your mature self now, what ends up happening is you've been

walking around with this feeling your entire life, this anger your entire life, this betrayal your entire life, and we never really unpacked how to get that little girl, that little boy out of that trap, out of that room, and bring them to a healthy place where they can accept the faith and let go of the pain. 00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.119 Yeah. 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:00.480 So that's good. 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:01.359 Yeah. 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:08.720 It's like it's not even like fully related to the question, but it was related to what you were speaking. 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:16.960 Like, so is forgiveness always like I feel like when we speak about forgiveness, we it seems like it's a thing that happens like instantly. 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:25.200 Like as a Christian, like when people speak about or just forgive, it's something that people seem like to take that it should be instant. 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.920 No, not at all. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:29.039 No, no, not at all. 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:30.640 That's the expectation, yeah. 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.000 That's the desire. 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:41.440 Um, it's it's like everything else that we find in Christ, because sometimes when we introduce God, we we want to introduce God in the magical sense, right? 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:50.160 Like that Disney God that we we we were introduced to, like that b-be-di bobbity boo, yeah, I turn you into a princess over at night type thing. 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:54.720 And it's not it's it's very it's it's a raw faith. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.759 Yeah, like look at look at a let's look at the Bible. 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.240 We see Joseph in Genesis, he meets his brothers. 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:10.079 The moment he meets his brothers, and he had finally has a time to be vulnerable with them, he breaks down and he cries, and he's like, It's me, Joseph. 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.000 You sold me into slavery. 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:28.640 But then when their father dies, and his brothers are expecting that he's gonna turn on them, they're like, you know, they're coming all um benevolent towards him, and he says, Don't even worry about it, because I know what the enemy meant for evil, God has turned it for our good. 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:29.839 Right? 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:37.599 So, realistically speaking, the man is resolved in understanding, hey, not all of this was actually you. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:51.519 However, I can also acknowledge the fact that I'm still hurt enough over the fact that I can only recognize you based off of the fact that I we have similarity, we look the same. 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:57.680 There, there's common traits in us, but I don't know you past the fact that we look the same. 00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:01.839 And it's because you hated me so much that you will sell your own brother. 00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:10.240 What Joseph does what we can acknowledge past that point is that they wanted to kill him. 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.559 My life is the way that it is. 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.519 The pain that I went through is the way that it is because of the fact that you wanted to kill me. 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:21.920 Because my father liked me. 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.079 I didn't even choose. 00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.000 I didn't choose it. 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:28.240 Okay, I bet. 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.240 Let's look at David. 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:32.880 He's supposed to be king. 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:35.920 His father didn't even recognize him as a son. 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:41.359 I bet. 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:42.960 Let's look at Jacob. 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.599 Esau comes back to the father and he says, Didn't you have any blessing left for me? 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:57.200 And his father had to conjure up some type of um clause for the sake of his favorite son. 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:04.000 Because every intent of his father was to release every blessing over his firstborn son. 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:05.839 What happens to the second one? 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.599 We can go on and on and on. 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:29.920 Paul talks about the fact that he's been betrayed by a certain set of disciples later on in his faith, after they have seen all these miracles that he's done, after he has broken down all the mysteries in the gospel. 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:31.759 He still talks about betrayal. 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:36.000 You feel me? 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:47.519 We can keep going about the the nuanced aspect of betrayal and how we are still supposed to forgive from the perspective that we were forgiven. 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:49.200 It's not easy. 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:51.920 It's never simple, it's never tomorrow. 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:59.839 Even personally, I realize that one secret to forgiveness is to dedicate yourself to wanting the best for the one that hurts you. 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.480 It hurts. 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.759 And this is how you dedicate yourself to wanting the best for someone that hurts you. 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.160 You pray for them, you pray for their wellness. 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.519 You don't you don't just like cast the thought off. 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:14.400 No, no, no. 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:22.000 When the thought comes, you literally say, devil, I will continue to bless this person until this thing leaves my heart. 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.160 You are literally conditioning yourself to love the one that hated you. 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:29.039 It's not easy. 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:30.160 It's not easy. 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.920 Funnier enough actually brought that out because that was something that I was doing last week. 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:36.480 Right? 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:56.799 I was praying that I was like, okay, God, despite the fact that these people did hurt me truly, truly, and you know it, and you had me go and say and apologize to

people, I pray that they come to the faith, the same faith that I've come to, the same knowledge that I've come to, the same understanding about things that I've come to, I hope the same thing is released upon them. 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:04.960 And it's and and I never really uh expected myself to go and pray that kind of prayer for those people. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:14.079 But I think because now that I understand that, okay, like it literally says that if if you don't forgive, your heavenly father will not forgive you. 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:14.720 Forgive you. 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:27.039 So it's kind of like if it if I'm withholding my forgiveness from them, how much more is God going to do for me when I I I do things I'm not supposed to do every day? 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.400 Yet this one thing happens and I can't forgive. 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:31.920 So yeah. 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:42.480 And you know, when you know when when scripture talks about you know uh Matthew chapter 7, judge now lest you be judged, for in the same measure that you judge, you too shall be judged. 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.680 Now think about it. 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:52.880 If you're saying no, this isn't excusable, what they did isn't excusable, then does that mean that now God looks at what you did and makes it an excusable? 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:55.359 You feel me? 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:02.559 So forgiveness is almost impossible if you have nothing else to live for but yourself. 00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:07.039 If you can't live past yourself, you cannot forgive, bro. 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.119 If you don't have somebody on the other side of you that you answer to, you won't be able to forgive. 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:14.559 How can you forgive? 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:16.800 Can't. 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:18.400 Yeah. 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.679 It's like interesting. 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:28.000 I even thought of Isha's example with the forgiveness, how like oftentimes I've I've seen that it's it's not always for them too. 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:34.480 It's always it can be for you too, but in a sense, too, when you're forgiving, I feel like you kind of feel a sense of pity. 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:42.239 Because I was not, I'm not directly Isha that was wronged, but I still kind of felt like like wow, this is crazy. 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:50.559 But even some of the stuff that after even Isha apologized, some of the stuff that was done after, it showed me that I just felt pity for them. 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:58.639 Because it's like we're here, we've we're healing, we've been healed, but it seems like there's still a hurt on their side. 00:34:58.800 --> 00:34:59.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:00.559 Yeah, they still have to. 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.159 Even when you know that the person hasn't done anything to you. 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.880 But it's almost like a lie that you have to keep telling yourself to feel justified. 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:09.199 Yeah. 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:21.599 And I've seen it like so many times where we had we had like, I'm not gonna bring it up, but it was someone that I know that we had like a kind of like a round table talk about like the past. 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:37.360 Some of the stuff they were bringing up was stuff that it was, it was just so like out of like the ordinary that it was like they have a feeling, but they can't find anything to justify that feeling other than looking to find something that they can latch on to. 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:41.199 And it was like grasping at straws. 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:43.679 They still live there. 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.119 I mean, think about it. 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:56.960 A lot of people that can't like think about how you walk past a liquor store, and that 50-year-old guy is still talking about how he used to be the man back in high school. 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:58.559 He used to play basketball. 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.400 Yeah, and then he got in. 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:02.880 Frozen in time. 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:03.920 Frozen in time. 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.239 Why? 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.000 Because his soul is stuck there. 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:08.960 What is the soul? 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.079 And and you know, it's part of the conversation for today, but the soul is the place of the thoughts, right? 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.880 The place of the feelings, the emotions, and the place of the action, right? 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:26.880 So that place can literally be stuck on the last time it had an encounter of any sort. 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:36.559 Any type of euphoria, any type of fear, any type of experience that marked them, your soul can be stuck there for the rest of your life. 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.559 Still living the high school days, still living. 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.760 You are 70 years old, brother. 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.840 What else have you done with your life? 00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:50.159 Because if every free moment you're always referring back to something that happened 50 years ago, that means that you still live 50 years ago. 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.079 That's scary, that's scary. 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.000 Yeah, I'm just thinking that's so calm, it's common. 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.440 So common. 00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:58.320 It's crazy. 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:00.480 So scary. 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:02.400 Very scary. 00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:04.239 All right. 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.039 With that being said, we've already spent like an hour talking about. 00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:07.760 Oh, wow. 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.079 Lovely, lovely, lovely. 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:10.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.000 So I'm just gonna introduce uh the main topic for today. 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.440 So the main topic of today is pornography, right? 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:44.400 And it's not only

pornography use in the sense of Christians, but even outside of Christianity, like just everyday youth, um, adults, married men, married women, and one thing I realize as well, too, and I'm not sure why that is, but a lot of people attribute the use of pornography to only men, but it's things that women also deal with. 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:50.320 Like I've spoken to a lot of females as well, and they also deal with this as well, too. 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:54.719 And I was surprised because I'm like usually when I hear about that, I always hear about men. 00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:59.440 But um, I I had sent three anchor verses. 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:04.320 Um, the first one is First Corinthians six, eighteen to twenty. 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:13.119 It says, flee from sexual immorality, or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God. 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:18.639 You are not your own, for you are bought with a price, so glorify God in your body. 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:39.840 The second one I have is First Thessalonians four, three to five, for this is the will of God, your sanctification, that you abstain from sexual immorality, that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of Alust, like the Gentiles who do not know God. 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.480 And then Galatians 5, 16. 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:48.079 But I say, walk by the spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.079 So yeah, let's open up the topic. 00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:14.480 It's crazy because I even I was looking at numbers while like kind of like looking into the topic, also, and it was on a study from Barna and Pure Desire, and it it said that over three and five Christians tell Barna that they agree a person can regularly view pornography and live a sexually healthy life. 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.440 And I'll just like how did we kind of get here? 00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:25.920 Like, where like the world is so perverse that even Christians are kind of living in that, like, well, the world's reality. 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.119 Man, um, let's use scripture. 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:41.760 Let's go um let's start from 1 Thessalonians 4, verse 3 to 5. 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:48.000 And let's couple it with 1 Peter chapter 2, verse 2. 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:55.840 Um so 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, verse 3 to 5 says, For this is the will of God, your sanctification. 00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:04.159 So God wants you to be sanctified, He wants you to be washed, cleansed, um inside of your heart, right? 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:12.079 If we look at um uh Ezekiel chapter 11, verse 19, it talks about I will put a new heart in them and a new spirit in them, right? 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:23.199 So God's one of the purposes that God wanted to achieve in the heart of everybody that is in Christ is the sanctification

of their heart, right? 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.119 And it goes on to say that you should be abstain from sexual morality. 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:39.039 This is very specific why, because it was written to a very specific people, specific group of people, that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, right? 00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:45.199 So this speaks to the responsibility of every believer to keep themselves in sanctification, right? 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.280 Holding two things in view, sanctification, right? 00:40:51.599 --> 00:41:01.920 My heart separated from what is defiled and honor, my heart reverencing who I am in Christ, right? 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.320 To this effect, not in passion of lust, right? 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.320 Like the Gentiles who do not know God. 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:18.239 It is the absence of knowledge of God that allows the Gentiles to move in that capacity. 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:22.559 The Bible will say this awaken to righteousness and sin not. 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.519 It is your awareness of your righteousness that allows you to stay away from sin. 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:33.039 It is your awareness of who you have become in Christ that allows you to evade sin, right? 00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:37.840 If you had a white suit, the way that you will walk around would be very careful. 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:47.920 But it's our inability to see who we are in Christ as the primary way that we are that allows us to fall into certain things. 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:57.199 But I want to focus on one thing: the absence of knowledge of God, the understanding of who God is that allows the Gentiles to roam about wild and free. 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.000 It says in Romans chapter 1, chapter 2, and chapter 3. 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.519 Now, watch this. 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.000 1 Peter chapter 2, verse 2. 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.800 It talks about, and I can start from the first one. 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:18.719 It says, Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, envy, and evil speaking, as newborn babes desire the pure milk of the word that you may grow thereby. 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:25.360 It is the pure milk of the word that allows you to grow from infancy state, right? 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:31.920 To where you are not won over by your flesh, right? 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:35.039 But you are won over by your nature in Christ. 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.760 It is the word that changes you, right? 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.119 Again, what is the word? 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.199 It's the revelation of God. 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.400 It is the revelation of Christ, right? 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:46.639 I am the way, I am the truth, I am the life. 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.400 No one can get to the Father except through me. 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:56.719 So if a Gentile will know God, the Father, is because they have known the Word through Jesus Christ that allows them to know the Father. 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.480 Now let's go back to 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, verse 4. 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:15.199 That each of you should possess your own should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God. 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:27.119 So the absence of the knowledge of God will always lead you to walk around frivolous, like a Gentile who does not necessarily have any laws to keep them. 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.840 Anyone that is not in Christ does not feel bad about sinning. 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:34.320 And that's what I was gonna say as well. 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:45.760 Like when I started watching uh pornography, um I was in the church, but like you said, right? 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.360 You can be in the presence of God and not know God, right? 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.760 So I feel like that was me. 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:58.800 Like I didn't know God, grew up in the church, dad's a pastor, but yeah, I was still doing this thing that I wasn't supposed to be watching, right? 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:00.880 And I didn't feel bad. 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:01.840 I just thought it was normal. 00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:02.639 I just thought it was regular. 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:04.079 I just thought it was whatever. 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:12.079 Then when I got saved and actually started reading my Bible and and and and now I have access to the Holy Spirit. 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:20.159 Like when I try to watch it or like do anything that I'm supposed to do, now I'm like, oh, I feel like terrible. 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.559 Like I feel like, oh, like I just I just did the worst thing ever. 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:35.679 So with that, I I I think anyway that that's that's what happens when you you would now have the knowledge of God and you now have the knowledge of Jesus Christ. 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:41.760 Now you're like, okay, I can no longer live that certain way anymore because it just doesn't even feel right. 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.320 Completely. 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.000 And this is the thing. 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.159 This is the tricky thing, bro. 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:49.599 It's tricky, right? 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:57.599 Because like we we go from being called, being saved, and we jump straight into like purpose, purpose, purpose. 00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.679 When realistically speaking, there has to be a formation inside of you, right? 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:17.440 Like I think uh uh Pastor Ralph and Pastor Kofe um were sitting down and they talk about how people go from salvation to manifestation and they completely skip formation, right? 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:23.840 Salvation, yes, you have received Jesus Christ, but the formation is what we see in 4 verse 4, right? 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:29.440 That each of you should know how to possess his own vessel, bro.

00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.280 If IG is a trigger to you, now that you found yourself in the faith, don't go on IG. 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.480 That's that's what we've been talking about. 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.559 Like I've been off of uh Instagram, Twitter a lot for two years. 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.039 You gotta be dang, that's a long time, brother. 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:54.719 It was that I was just seeing the stuff that I'm not even following these things. 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.360 Yeah, so like why am I still seeing this? 00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:58.239 Yeah, you know what? 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.079 Let me just cut it off, cut everything off. 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:00.559 That's it. 00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.039 But you gained power over that struggle once you did. 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.880 That's why I asked, like, how do we even like get here? 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:15.760 Because I feel like the way the world is now, like, in especially in pornography, you'll get caught at a young age. 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.239 Yeah, but I remember getting like our first computer, it was like 10, 11. 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:24.159 And next thing you know, you're clicking, playing games, clicking around, playing games, pop-ups. 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:30.320 Um, I wasn't even the first time you see you're like, oh, this is gross. 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:31.199 Let me click out. 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:32.480 Next time it comes, oh wait. 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.119 Let's investigate. 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:40.400 Next thing you know, you're just sitting in the family room looking at watching how if parents are coming. 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:44.079 The only like conviction I had was the conviction of getting caught. 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:45.280 It wasn't anything else. 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:46.400 That's it, that's it. 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:47.119 That's it. 00:46:47.360 --> 00:47:02.400 And you know, I I think even before, like, because the interesting thing about the these three verses is verse 5, not not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God, right? 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:14.239 The interesting thing about the Gentiles who do not know God is the fact that realistically speaking, the the Gentiles were birthed out of Adam and Eve, right? 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:29.360 The reason why we have Israelites, the Jews, and and the you know, that practice is because God set a Gentile man aside, Abram, a moon worshiper, and says, Hey, go to a land that I will show you, I will make you a great nation. 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:38.239 God said, I need to start or I need to continue this, I need to bring this seed from my promise to my come to completion. 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:38.800 Right? 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:45.440 But realistically speaking, the state of the world at large, at large, was gentile state. 00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:45.920 Why? 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.840 When we go back to Adam and Eve, let's go there. 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:50.719 Let me show you something. 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.480 Genesis chapter 3, verse 7. 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:07.199 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked, and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.239 At the eight. 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:13.119 And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day. 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:18.880 And Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:19.920 Go all the way to ten. 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:25.519 Then the Lord God called to Adam and said uh to him, Where are you? 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:31.519 So he said, I heard your voice in the garden and I was afraid because I was naked and I hid myself. 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:32.480 Beautiful. 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.440 Now, when the Bible says that in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7, right? 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.880 That when God breathed into man, he became a living soul. 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:41.760 Right. 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:50.880 The state of Adam was such that the life of God had partnered with his soul to make him a living soul, right? 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:52.079 You understand me? 00:48:52.400 --> 00:49:07.360 That was the the life of God connected to the soul of man and made man able to operate in two places in the fellowship with God, and then because he had flesh, he was able to operate in the earth. 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:08.639 You understand me? 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:10.239 Now, what is the soul? 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.599 The soul is the place of the thoughts, the emotions, the action, right? 00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:21.039 Now, watch what happens to Adam when he falls, right? 00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:25.519 The first and foremost, the verse seven says this in Genesis chapter three. 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.800 It says, Then the eyes of both of them were open and they knew. 00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.440 Weird wording, right? 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:32.880 How's your eyes open? 00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:36.159 Number one, how were you eating the fruit with your eyes closed? 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.280 Like you feel me? 00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:43.440 Yeah, so we're we know we're speaking about a different set of eyes, the eyes of their understanding, right? 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.960 It was open and they knew that they were naked. 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.559 So their understanding brought them to a knowledge, a mental awareness, right? 00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:56.559 That wasn't supposed to be there, that was not supposed to be there, right? 00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:12.079 But if you jump down to what he says to God in the verse 10, it says, So I heard your voice in the garden, I was afraid, a feeling because I was naked, and I hid myself. 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.880 In there, you see the operation of a fallen soul.

00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:23.360 I knew that I was naked, I was afraid, I felt an emotion, and I hid myself, the action. 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:24.400 What is the soul? 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.480 The place of the thoughts, the place of the emotions, the place of the actions. 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:35.360 So the fallen soul knows nothing but to run away from God and to do what is contrary to the will of God. 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:50.960 So the state of the world, once Adam and Eve entered the unrighteous nature, once they entered that place of the fallen nature, essentially, where they had fallen from the place of glory that God had put them, right? 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:56.880 Was a natural nature to which would do everything contrary to the will of God, right? 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.079 So naturally, the soul is disposition to reject God's righteousness. 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:09.679 Anyone that is a gentile naturally rejects the righteousness of God, naturally, it's their nature. 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.039 That's why they're called children of rach uh of wrath. 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:22.559 Sorry, they're called children of wrath because naturally they reject everything that is God, so they must encounter wrath. 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.400 It's the reality of the matter. 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:36.159 So when it comes to like these children of wrath, and like what I noticed like in the chapter three, like I was reading it before, and what I noticed was that like up until now, God is like omnipresent. 00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:43.840 Well, he is omnipresent, but it's as if like the way it's written here, it's as if he appeared out of nowhere, like he snuck up on them. 00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:51.599 And is that like kind of like a testament to how closed their eyes were to the presence of God at that point? 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.079 Ask that in a different way. 00:51:54.320 --> 00:52:00.320 Like, were they so unaware of the presence of God now that it almost seemed like he snuck on them? 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.960 He snuck up on them after they had sinned. 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.280 What had changed about them is the perceptions to which they were using to relate with God. 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:11.199 You get me? 00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:15.199 Because the Bible says that their eyes were open and they knew, right? 00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:22.320 So now they started off with the perception in their soul fully on God, fully on God. 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:30.880 Now they their perceptions had changed from fully on God to an awareness that it was fully on their flesh. 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.280 I mean, look at the text. 00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.039 Sorry, let me just go back to it real quick. 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:35.840 Look at the text. 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:40.719 It says that then the eyes of both of them were open and they knew they were naked. 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:46.400 Their perception went from being aware, they never knew that they were naked before that point. 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:57.760 It's kind of like a TV interference, like where like now there's so much noise like between them and God, where it's like it's almost as if God isn't there in their mind. 00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:58.639 At all. 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:00.800 And this is this is the crazy thing. 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:16.159 This is our experiences every single time we were introduced to something else that was going to ruin our life, whether it's pornography, whether it's drugs, whether it's um bad toxic relationships, whatever the case may be. 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:31.440 Whenever we are introduced to a new element in our life, first we reject it, but next we investigate it at some point we identify with it. 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:35.920 It always happened that way. 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:43.119 So coming back to pornography, you have to understand that for Gentiles, it's no skin off their back. 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:43.519 Why? 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:48.079 Because their soul doesn't even align with the convictions of God. 00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:48.480 Why? 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:59.599 Their soul is separated from the life of God, so their soul naturally just does not like have an awareness of wrong. 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:05.280 Somebody that's not a believer, see, and this is the this is the sound downside. 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.440 We I think most of us grew up in the church. 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:11.119 So we always got a sense of light. 00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:12.639 We always got hit with light. 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:13.039 Yeah. 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:17.199 So we always had this sense of like true north. 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:21.599 But somebody that didn't grow up in the church, somebody that is unchurched, right? 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.480 There are a lot of things that were not problematic to them. 00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:30.880 That's why Peter can grab a sword and cut somebody's ear off. 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:38.880 That's why Peter can switch up because realistically he was introduced to a new faith to where he was never taught it. 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.480 Like he was never worked in it. 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:46.800 And when Jesus walked on this earth, he walked, Jesus walked in the pursuit of the Jews. 00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:47.840 Right? 00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.960 When he died, he made it available to the Gentiles. 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:52.079 You get me? 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:53.119 Yeah, I understand that. 00:54:53.360 --> 00:55:08.960 So nobody ever taught him how to walk the walk that is fully encompassing of every creed, every tribe, regardless of where you were found in the Jewish Israel, Gentile line, right? 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:22.239 But to get back to it, it's it's the complexity to which now coming into the faith, your spirit is renewed. 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:25.840 You're a believer, alright. 00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:32.559 But your soul

has been slave to your flesh for a very long time. 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:38.400 That's why the Bible, now you'll understand why the Bible says renew your mind. 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.400 So you can offer your body as a living sacrifice. 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:44.960 If you don't renew your mind, forget it. 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.119 You'll just be a carnal Christian. 00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:48.559 Oh, you'll be a carnal Christian. 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:49.920 Everything will bother you. 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:57.360 If you if you can't bring your mind to love him most, you'll never be able to deny yourself. 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:00.000 Never. 00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:01.760 Never. 00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:03.280 I don't think, at least. 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:14.800 I was kind of just thinking like you don't think like it's just the way like the world is now. 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:21.119 It's almost as if like even as a Christian, there's constantly like lust creeping at the door. 00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:26.960 Like you had mentioned to cut off like Instagram, so socials, everything. 00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:34.719 Then it's TV we consume, or then it's how people have been influenced to dress because of these things. 00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.400 So it's almost as if lust is creeping at the door everywhere you turn. 00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:39.519 Everywhere you turn. 00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:41.440 Yeah, definitely. 00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:46.880 And that's why Jesus would prescribe fasting. 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:54.639 Fasting is a practice to which you get in the space to where you silence the flesh. 00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:01.280 A lot of people will make fasting about like social media fast, but you're eating three square meals a day. 00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:08.320 Bro, the thing that is informing your mind, your heart, and your will is still full intact. 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.639 No, fast the flesh. 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:18.880 If if if one one times a one time a week is not doing it for your flesh, fast until it triggers the flesh to shut up. 00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:21.039 Why? 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:26.400 Because you're completely committed to possessing your body and honor and sanctification. 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.320 So you suffer small. 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:29.440 Suffer small. 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:30.000 Small. 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.280 And it's also interesting as well, too, because for me, when I was going through it, right? 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:43.199 It's is I was trying my best to not um watch it, right? 00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:51.599 But because I was more so focused on not trying to do it, I was still falling into doing it, right? 00:57:52.239 --> 00:58:14.320 But when I kind of took my eyes off of it and just said, okay, honestly, God just helped me be more into the world and stop those uh distractions, uh, whether it's music, whether it's this, whether it's that, and not really even like focus on walking on eggshells all the time. 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:19.039 I found it that it became easier to kind of cut that part out. 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:28.559 I did follow time and time again, but it was it was easier to not constantly think about not watching porn. 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:35.199 When I I I kind of focused my eyes toward toward toward God. 00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:37.519 Yeah, completely. 00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:39.119 That's the only way you get out. 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:39.840 Right. 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:55.199 I think the thing that annoys me is when we paint a picture of you came to Jesus, so therefore you have no room for mistakes, and there's no room for stumbling, or whatever the case may be. 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:58.559 Because it's not in line with what scripture says, right? 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:06.320 Bible says uh righteous man falls seven times and gets back up again, but uh wicked man falls and stays down, right? 00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:14.239 There is some level of conviction for you to want to get back up after you've fallen. 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:15.920 You feel me? 00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:22.079 A wicked person saying, like, I'm gonna stay down, like you really don't care about the reason why you should stand up. 00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:24.320 You get me? 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.880 You see Jesus Christ and his hard posture towards Peter, you're gonna deny me three times, brother. 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:32.719 But I pray for you. 00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:38.480 The Bible says that he's constantly making intercessions on our behalf, right? 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:48.480 There is this commitment to God to see you get it, to see you understand it. 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:57.679 I mean everything in scripture reflects the idea that we know the truth. 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.639 When we know the truth, the truth sets us free. 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:09.360 But the Spirit of God is sent to reveal this truth to us, to teach us the word. 01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.599 You get me? 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:40.079 So one thing that I I want to say to the audience and to our us that is that like regardless of what you're struggling with, you have to make sure that your heart posture is at a place where you see yourself, how God sees you, and you work diligently at living your life from that perspective, regardless of where you make a mistake. 01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:56.239 And living your life from that perspective means that you feed your soul with so much of what God thinks about you until you break out of that place of what you used to think about yourself. 01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:16.719 Like there was a time to where like masturbation, pornography, even like take a past pornography, womanizing, hitting up that that that side check, whatever the case may be, and just doing things was literally easy, like even as a believer, right? 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:23.360 I would always feel bad, but I would also know that like I can ask for

forgiveness. 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:29.760 But then at some point, the light went off in my in my heart, in my head. 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.559 It was like, no, someone really died for you. 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:40.480 Like he really died for us, bro. 01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:46.159 Like it's no joke, like he really died. 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:52.800 See, movies make Jesus like they put a little cloth on him. 01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:54.639 Nah, bro. 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:58.800 No cloth, unrecognizable. 01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.079 And even on that cross, he says, forgive them for they know not what they do. 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:09.360 The reason why they're doing that is because they don't know what they're doing. 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.280 If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't be doing it. 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.239 Somebody really died for us. 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.679 It's not a fairy tale, bro. 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.480 Our sin was going to ruin our marriages. 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.159 Our sin was gonna ruin our life. 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:32.000 My temper would have gotten me killed a long time ago. 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.639 But because he died for me, I can have his spirit in my heart. 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.639 And when I say help, he helps. 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:43.280 Why? 01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:48.559 Because he sits on the throne of mercy, he grants us grace. 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:51.760 It's a real thing. 01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:56.159 The more you meditate on these things, how could you not want to change? 01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.119 You may struggle, but just keep focusing on the reality that he died for you. 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:02.639 He's locked in. 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:04.880 It's gonna change. 01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:05.920 You get me? 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:06.960 So yeah. 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:15.840 I say that even aligns with like, because I was speaking to um, there's someone at my church right now who's like going through a battle with cancer, and he's very sick. 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:16.320 Wow. 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.719 But like, one thing about him, like, he always find a way to preach to you. 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:36.079 And like, I don't know why he was urged to say this, but I called to check on him about two, three weeks ago, and he was like, Michael, that battle that you're having, whether it's your weight or whatever it is, strengthen your spirit, man, and everything will work out. 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:36.960 Wow. 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:38.559 That's what he told me. 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:47.280 And it it literally brought me to what Isha was saying about the like um oh like counting the days of like, oh, I haven't done this, I haven't done that. 01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.360 And for me, it was like, oh, day one, oh, I've been eating healthy. 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.039 It's been 10 days I've ate healthy. 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.280 Oh, it's been a month, I haven't watched porn. 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:58.880 And it's like almost like you're focusing on the wrong thing. 01:03:59.039 --> 01:03:59.199 Yeah. 01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:04.800 So to the point where when you slip up, it's like a slippery slope from there. 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:09.679 It's like you've given all up, and then you become that wicked man who's down and just sitting there. 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.960 Sitting there to a point where oh, I was counting down the days that I'm now masturbating. 01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:18.159 Now you're masturbating every day, and now you're eating crazy every day. 01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:22.320 And it's because, like you said, your heart posture is on the wrong thing. 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:23.119 Yeah, yeah. 01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.639 Looking at the fact that he's actually walking on water. 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:33.679 He's looking at self. 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:35.760 But you can't save yourself, bro. 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:40.960 We're talking about salvation, the act of walking in the righteousness of God. 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:47.199 You don't know what that like none of us really know what that encapsulates. 01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:52.800 Like, we know the little things that scripture like talks about in Galatians chapter 5. 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:53.199 Yeah. 01:04:54.800 --> 01:05:00.639 But then Paul will end off that scripture and say, and anything of the sort. 01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:02.880 Like, think about it. 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:17.440 Like he he who like he talks about the fact that let's see if I can uh uh okay, let's start from the verse 16. 01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:29.440 It says, I say then walk in the spirit, and you you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh for the lust of the flesh against the um for the flesh lust against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh. 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:38.400 And these contr these are contrary contrary, wow, English, to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.599 But if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law. 01:05:41.760 --> 01:06:04.079 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are actual which are adultery, fornication, uncleanliness, lewdness, idolatry, uh sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wraths, selfish uh ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, Murders, drunkenness, revelies, and the like. 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:14.639 So he lists out a list of things, but then he says, and the like, meaning anything else that falls falls into this category. 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:20.079 No one no one outside of God can claim they they don't fall in this category. 01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:21.920 You feel me? 01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:28.480 So, like, realistically speaking, in order to walk this righteous life, you need the Spirit of God to help you. 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:32.559 Because the like, he doesn't say TikTok in here. 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:39.840

But if TikTok is where you're getting your porn, your soft porn, that's the like. 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:48.159 Literally, what one thing that I was gonna talk about is the fact that fornication is actually the Greek word for that is pornea. 01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:54.239 Literally, that's where where that's the word porn comes from. 01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:56.239 Pornia. 01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:02.239 Pornography is literally pornography. 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:08.159 Like the capturing of graph, like the writing down of porn or porno. 01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:10.000 Pornography. 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.239 So that word for fornication is pornea. 01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.159 Let's give it a further breakdown. 01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:24.639 Well, you know, once you got Isaiah saying, wow, you you're doing something right. 01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:36.800 So it's like so pornea in the Greek means harlotry, including adultery and incest, figuratively, idolatry, fornication. 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:40.639 Even pornea encapsulates idolatry. 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:41.280 Why? 01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:49.199 Because you're lauding a naked body, and you are literally serving yourself the satisfaction you need. 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.559 This this double idolatry. 01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:56.159 You're appreciating what you're seeing, you're satisfying yourself. 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:02.400 Yeah, that's all I wanted to share. 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:20.800 So I was just gonna say, so would you say like participating, like watching pornography is kind of like not the end go, but it's the like culmination of everything around us. 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:29.600 Like it's kind of all like it all push pushes you towards lust and it's acted out in one way or another. 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.199 Yeah, yeah, most definitely. 01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:34.479 Um what what does First John two fifteen say? 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.560 Um if we can go there. 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:40.560 Thank you, Jesus. 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:48.000 Uh John 2 15. 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.920 It says, Do not love the the world or the things in the world. 01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.239 If anyone loves the world, the love of the father is not in him. 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:11.600 16 says, for all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, what your flesh desires, the lust of the eyes, what your eyes feast their eyes on, and then the pride of life, right? 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.119 What you boast about in yourself, right? 01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.720 Is not of the father, but of the world. 01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:28.720 So every single time you were conditioned prior to Christ as a Gentile in your walk, in your life, you were conditioned by one of these three things. 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:43.279 See, I feel like even like especially like I remember before, like when I was like cooked, like I would be like, I would be like, oh, like, especially like tick, like you were talking about soft porn, like TikTok. 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:51.920 I don't know why in my mind I was like, oh, as long as I don't like act it out, as long as I don't watch porn and somebody like these things are fine. 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:57.039 Like, oh, you scroll, you see a girl, you like it, you like you like the post, I'll come back to that later. 01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:06.239 You keep you scrolling, your now your Instagram, now your socials are filled with these things, but it's like, oh, I'm not acting it out, so it's fine. 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:08.239 That's like what I used to think. 01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:09.359 Oh, yeah, most definitely. 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:19.920 I mean, action is there, but action is not only in like if you look at someone a certain type of way, it's an action. 01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:21.359 Right? 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:34.159 If and we've all done that at one point or another, like you look at a girl and you make eye contact, but what you're really can communicating is attraction, right? 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:42.079 Like you didn't do anything, but in your heart, you've done something, you know, you got the point across, right? 01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:45.760 And that's what one thing that I want to say about honor. 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:49.680 Honor isn't even outward sometimes, right? 01:10:49.920 --> 01:11:07.680 Like if I'm on IG and my wife is not home, and I'm over here going on a girl's page and enjoying what I'm seeing and lauding what I'm seeing and coveting what I'm seeing, I haven't left my house, I haven't even touched the girl, I haven't reached out to the girl, but I have dishonored my wife. 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:09.359 Why? 01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:14.399 Because honor is how you esteem someone in your heart. 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:16.399 So go ahead. 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:33.199 And like even with that, uh for for a long time I didn't understand that verse in Matthew when Jesus says that if you even look at a woman um in your heart, you've already uh committed adultery with her. 01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:40.159 And I'm just like how is that possible? 01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:40.560 Yeah, yeah. 01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.720 But I think with what we're talking about, that's that's exactly what it is. 01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:45.119 Yeah. 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:52.079 So yeah, yeah, the the the partnership can be on so many different levels, right? 01:11:52.399 --> 01:12:06.319 Like the agreement to sin can be on so many different levels, can be in your flash when you physically do it, it can be with your eyes, what you see, because those are the windows to your soul as well, right? 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:14.319 And then it can be in your in your in the pride, like pride is not external, you could be very proud and act very humble. 01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:16.399 You feel me? 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.880 But God sees the heart and he's like, nah. 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:31.279 You know, the interesting thing about God is

when he wanted to create a new people, he really the two things he attacked. 01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:33.279 I need to give him a new heart. 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.199 I need to give him a new spirit. 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:47.600 Meaning that God searching and looking at our heart is one of the deepest senses or the the quickest ways he judges where we are in our life. 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:49.920 Where's your heart at? 01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:52.479 That's it. 01:12:56.319 --> 01:13:04.800 So in terms of the heart posture, can like someone even be deceived of their own heart, like posture? 01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:10.560 Because I even think of those who come to Jesus talking about he prophesied in his name, they did this and this thing. 01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:22.159 Were these people who were truly deceived, who deceived themselves into thinking they were doing the right thing, but in the in their hearts, maybe not even known to themselves they were doing it for the wrong reason. 01:13:22.399 --> 01:13:24.319 It depends on how they were discipled. 01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:26.239 Like him. 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:56.239 The reason why I say that is because you know, you can um be in a certain faith system to where you come to believe because you know somebody's discipling you that perhaps like um you know, doing things like XYZ is actually a matter of like obeying God and not obeying yourself, right? 01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:01.520 Or obeying God, like not obeying people or serving people or whatever the case may be. 01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:06.800 But when you open up scripture, can you see what they've discipled you in in scripture? 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:07.359 Right? 01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:16.319 And sometimes people can be deceived because they pray the loudest in tongues, or they play, they they pray the longest, they they can pray for 12 hours. 01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:18.800 Shout out to my people that pray for 12 hours. 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:36.079 Um, they can they read this the Bible at least twice a year, or whatever the case may be, and they've developed a form of godliness in that, but realistically speaking, in their heart, they think they are justified because of their actions. 01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:43.920 But you're not justified because of your actions, you're justified because Christ came and died for you, right? 01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:48.159 So, you know, when Jesus Christ is saying, Depart from me, I never knew you. 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:55.439 I believe it's uh Matthew chapter 7, verse 21 for a reference for the people that are speaking or listening. 01:14:55.760 --> 01:15:08.800 He says, Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my father in heaven, he was speaking to a people that were unsaved, that would have the opportunity to be saved. 01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:14.800 And the first desire of the father is that they would receive him as a personal savior, right? 01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:16.239 That's the first thing. 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:25.199 So I I I believe that um many people would come to God saying, Hey, look at what we did as the conglomerate, right? 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:30.479 But the question would become, Well, did you do what I desired of you? 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.479 Yeah, right, which is number one salvation, and then what carries after. 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.680 But people could be very deceived, yeah, bro. 01:15:38.079 --> 01:15:45.039 Like, I used to think that becoming a pastor would mean that I'm going to have a first class ticket straight. 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:50.479 Just get there, and then I realize that some pastors cheat on their wives. 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:50.960 Yeah. 01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:51.920 You feel me? 01:15:52.079 --> 01:15:56.880 Like, not to say that this is the norm, it's not the norm in the kingdom, but some do. 01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:57.279 Yeah. 01:15:57.439 --> 01:15:57.680 Right? 01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:02.159 That some men of God and women of God are really sketchy in in their behavior. 01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:10.800 It's marrying it for like the money and for money, and can still do miracles, especially back home in Ghana. 01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:12.159 It's a job, it's a job. 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:14.239 It's a job, it's crazy. 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:16.000 Shout out to Ghana, yeah. 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.720 I believe in you guys. 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:32.079 But yeah, man, it's it's a it's a very it's it's a very tricky thing because sometimes people think that character is charisma. 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:37.840 But character is as a result of being exposed to another character, Jesus Christ. 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:43.279 Charisma is as a result of Jesus coming to give you something to use, the gift. 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:44.560 You feel me? 01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:45.920 Yeah. 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:54.640 And one thing that I have a lot of like beefs with with the church sometimes, right? 01:16:55.119 --> 01:17:14.319 And one of my primary ones is, for example, for a topic like this, why why is it that sometimes churches kind of shy away from from speaking to youth about going through pornography, uh uh sex and things like that? 01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:36.079 Like we feel as though, like, yes, it is filthy, I agree, but why why don't we speak to the youth that may be going through it, or or even the adults, the elders who are going through it, why do we feel the need to kind of shy away from it or or just kind of close our eyes and act like it's not happening? 01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:44.159 I was even gonna say, like, to your point, it creates like an or like kind of like an aura of like perfection amongst leaders. 01:17:45.199 --> 01:18:01.680 Like, I went to um one of Alan's youth camp camps last year, and like it was actually one of the first times that I've seen like leaders actually be like, oh, like one of the pastors was saying, Oh,

he used to like down fifths of honey and link with women link with women in the dorms room. 01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.279 Powerful I've no powerful men of God. 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:10.800 I've never heard I've never heard people like be so open like of their past before they came to Christ. 01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:12.880 They were all in like fraternities too. 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.279 Oh they went through all then they'll tell us about their story and all that. 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:16.880 I might visit your church, bro. 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:18.479 I need I need that transparency out here. 01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:24.000 And it made it so like almost I like even like with like our moms and our dads, right? 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:35.840 Like like some well my dad he's pretty open, but like a lot of like dads and moms that I hear, oh at your age I didn't smoke, at your age I didn't drink, at your age I didn't fornicate, I didn't do this. 01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:42.960 But you were pregnant at 16 and you you you did things. 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:46.399 I did the math. 01:18:48.079 --> 01:19:06.399 It's kind of like like like why why are we trying to put on this show as if we're perfect when I'm somebody that I would want to put out the things that I I went through so that I can help somebody else out that might be going through the same thing. 01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:17.199 But I feel like in the church that doesn't happen as often as it should that okay, at your age, here's what happened, stay away from that instead of acting as though, oh, it's just not happening. 01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:32.640 And then when somebody else falls in in the same trap that you fell in 25 years ago, it's it's frowned upon when you could have used your the fact that you were saved from that thing to kind of help that person out. 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:34.880 Like why why is that? 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:38.159 That's one of my beefs with the church heavy. 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:40.000 Uh shame. 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:49.520 I think I think to an extent there's some shame surrounding it because you almost have to acknowledge that you actually did that, right? 01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:52.960 Um, some some for some people it's fear. 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:57.199 Like if I reminisce long enough, will I become that person? 01:19:57.359 --> 01:19:58.479 Will I miss those things? 01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:02.640 Will I want to redo those things? 01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:16.079 But I think sometimes it's fear that talking about it is almost endorsement to the person that's listened to you to go do it. 01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:18.239 Um and that's what I've seen. 01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:25.279 I I come from uh church to where um shout out church pentecost, um, PLWC, what's there? 01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:57.039 Um, you know, sometimes the fear in um talking about it is really just simply like if I talk about it and they find out that this elder, this pastor that is in front of them right now turned out okay, even with a bad past like he had or she had or whatever the case may be, it would encourage the youth to you know tread the same line and then come to God. 01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:58.560 I got time to the same thing. 01:20:58.960 --> 01:20:59.600 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:00.800 I got time to lock in. 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:03.119 Yeah, I got time to lock in essentially. 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:07.680 And I I think sometimes naturally, right? 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:13.039 Uh I I'm I'm exposed a lot to African-centric church, Afrocentric churches, right? 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:27.439 Naturally, parents don't like to tread in places to where it almost gives their children authority to go and try the same thing that the parents did because oh, you did it too, right? 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:29.359 So, like, you know what I mean? 01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:39.359 If they did it, then they almost don't have the authority to tell them, tell their kids not to do it, which is cut quite like contrary. 01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:42.880 And I think that was something that we talked about this week, right? 01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:48.880 About how I was speaking to you guys, like obviously, like in my church, I I uh teach the kids, right? 01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:56.800 But there's certain things that I don't want to teach them because of the fact that I don't want their moms and dads to think that I'm saying it's okay, yeah. 01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.680 But however, these kids are learning these things in school. 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:00.720 School already. 01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:02.000 Yep, you might be able to do that. 01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:04.479 I think that your kid is innocent, but I'm sorry to tell you. 01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:05.680 Likely not. 01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.560 Yeah, but I do understand that thought part of that. 01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:13.359 Yeah, okay. 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:20.800 Like, and I don't want to be blamed for them hearing that I'm teaching their kids this thing that they already know. 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.199 Yeah, so yeah, that's that's a good point, too. 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:26.880 It's it's proper exposure, right? 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:30.399 Like, I I let's take an example from Jesus Christ. 01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:34.319 He told them, like, hey, from now on, carry this sword with you. 01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:37.680 Because you're probably gonna need it, right? 01:22:38.960 --> 01:23:00.319 There there's there's a sense of letting some like a proper orientation, like, hey, this is what the Bible says about this, this is how it stands on it, this is the probable impact of what's going to happen, but then you give them the practical. 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:06.399 I know when I ignored this scripture, what happened to my life? 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:12.319 And that's why I'm asking you guys to please listen to the scripture. 01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:21.439 What you have just done is you

have equipped them with the ability to decide when that temptation comes, because it will come. 01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:41.359 If you avoid telling them what they can choose to do and why they should do it based off of scripture and your personal experience, then you have robbed them of the tools they need in order to say no when that situation comes. 01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:48.319 And now we run the risk of the fact that they ate of the fruit and their eyes were open. 01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:50.000 It's so tough though, right? 01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.880 But I feel like people just don't listen, right? 01:23:55.680 --> 01:24:00.880 But because like I had an experience, like this was last year, right? 01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:09.279 So I was telling not kids, but because I'm probably like three years older than them, so I'm not like too much older than them, right? 01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:15.520 But I was telling them not to drink, not to smoke, not to fornicate, this, that, and the third. 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:21.199 And mind you, they know me before I like I am what I am now, right? 01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:27.199 So their response was, oh, so why are you trying to stop us from having the fun that you had? 01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:31.680 And I'm like, yo, valid point, valid point, eh? 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:45.760 This was like if I had the same knowledge that I have now when I was two, three, four, five, six years ago, I would have moved completely different. 01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:46.800 You know what I'm saying? 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:53.359 Now it's kind of like I'm playing like we all started in a race, right? 01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:56.720 And I'm still back here and I'm trying to catch up. 01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:03.439 When five years ago, I could have just locked in and avoided a lot of the game that I went through. 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:08.960 But they don't understand that because they're at that age and God bless them, right? 01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:13.840 But it it pains me because I'm like, yo, I don't want you guys to go through this. 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.439 Like, bro, like I actually just don't don't want you guys to go through this. 01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:20.960 But unfortunately, I feel like people have to learn sometimes, right? 01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:29.119 Like our Muhammad and our dads have taught us don't do this, don't do that, don't do this, and we've done it and we've saw the repercussions of doing it. 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:29.760 Yeah. 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.039 So I feel like I sometimes that needs to happen. 01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:37.920 It's like you can't like you can't afford to be like naive when like kind of leading people. 01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:43.920 Especially because like I feel like times are going getting to points where it's gonna be even harder. 01:25:44.159 --> 01:25:59.439 Like not to sound pessimistic, but like the way like technology would advance the way the world is already how it is, it may be

even harder to like um like lust may be even like every like it's like times 10 what it is now. 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.079 We're using VRs nowadays, bro. 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:08.000 Like it might be like in the meta glasses, it might be it's gonna get like I feel like it's gonna get even worse. 01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:12.319 So like they kind of have to be equipped even earlier now. 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:13.680 Yeah, most definitely. 01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:22.000 I think um so I I got a question for Ishay, and then I'll come back to what uh Mike was saying, but how how did you handle it though? 01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.800 Like how how did you respond to them when they said that? 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:34.880 I just kept pressed, I was like, oh, like I don't want you guys to to to struggle with certain things that I struggled with, and I will have to at that. 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.960 Because at that point, I could tell that they weren't trying to hear nothing, nothing else, yeah. 01:26:41.279 --> 01:26:44.159 But but but I just ended it with that and that was it. 01:26:44.399 --> 01:26:46.960 Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. 01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:56.800 I think what I'm starting to realize now is that the method of telling people what to do doesn't really work. 01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:58.960 I mean, look at God, he tried it. 01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:06.560 He gave like got God tried it, like he literally gave us the law or gave the Jews the law. 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:12.239 Gave him 600 and however many laws, 634 or 600. 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:14.880 Don't quote me on it, don't quote me on the internet. 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:18.000 Um, he gave them roughly 600, right? 01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:23.439 Like, and they ain't listened to not no not not even one, bro. 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:29.279 Like that they had to kill goat, cow, sheep, whatever, over and over. 01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:33.199 Then Jesus comes and he's like, I got a model for you, discipleship. 01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:46.000 See, we have made the church, I personally believe, that the system of the church is not the way God would have intended it. 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:56.880 Because we bought a building, we told people to show up for different services to come and receive the word from the set woman, a man of God, right? 01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.680 And to go home and to review their. 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.880 Notes and then you know come back for more teaching later on. 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:07.199 There's a place for that, right? 01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:13.520 But I think discipleship is where we do life together where you see me bleed. 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:24.079 Now, if they had seen you at that time and how you struggled with liquor, that statement would have been a lot more different. 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:32.720 Because the goal of Jesus Christ was not go and make churches, it says go make disciples. 01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:35.680 He showed us how he made disciples. 01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:40.720 Jesus ate at Peter's house. 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:44.560 He washed their feet. 01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.560 He walked with them like he was at home with them. 01:28:52.319 --> 01:28:54.560 He like he did life with them. 01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.760 To the point where Judas knew where to find Jesus when it was time to betray him. 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:10.239 To the point where the the disciples were shocked that Jesus was talking to a woman in John chapter 4. 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:11.199 Why? 01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:15.359 Because they knew his cadence, they knew his lifestyle. 01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:19.119 You feel me? 01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:19.439 Yeah. 01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:32.560 I I think nowadays and even in times past, we have been so used to just telling people the right thing, giving them scripture. 01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:36.000 But you don't even know what drives the person that you're speaking to. 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:36.640 True. 01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:38.079 Don't know anything. 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:39.520 We have no clue. 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:57.760 Like you, like to your point, like it's like in today's like day and age of church, it's like, especially like a lot of the youth that I've like spoken to, it's like a lot of times, the only time I'm speaking to like this uncle or auntie in church is like, oh, oh, my daughter, you're on the program this week, and that's it. 01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:02.079 Yeah, I haven't spoken to you or see how your day's doing, nothing. 01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:05.920 I don't know anything about you, and that's what you're speaking to me about. 01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:10.880 But peep scheme, that best friend is at their house all the time. 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:17.039 That best friend knows the fights that are going on in the house. 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:22.640 So, of course, if that best friend says, Let's go to a party, you're going. 01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:24.159 Yeah, for sure. 01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:25.680 You feel me? 01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:37.279 I think the idea of amassing so many followers has robbed us of accomplishing God's this desire, which is discipleship. 01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:57.680 It's so much easier for your voice to go far in somebody's life, even like from a prophetic point of view, you have more prophetic impact in somebody that actually values your word, the word that you spoke to them, than somebody that just heard you at a service. 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:12.239 The faith that they align with, or the faith that they they project to meet the word that was spoken, is what brings about the results. 01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:23.199 But if there's no respect, there is no honor, there is no relationship, that prophetic word might fall to the ground. 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.279 It's the same thing with like impact. 01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:32.560 Jesus was only able they only live for Jesus because they walked with him. 01:31:33.039 -->

01:31:34.479 Look at how Peter talks about it. 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:37.359 Look at how John talks about that which we saw. 01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.359 That's we that let's go there. 01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:40.239 First John. 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.039 Chapter one, verse one, two, and three. 01:31:56.720 --> 01:31:58.640 Chapter one, verse one, two, and three. 01:31:58.720 --> 01:31:58.880 Yep. 01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:00.239 Okay. 01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:11.359 Uh that which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands concerning the world of life. 01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:22.239 The life was made manifest and we have seen it, and testify to it to proclaim you eternal life, which was with the Father and was made manifest to us. 01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:22.960 Three. 01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:30.159 That which we have seen and heard, we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us. 01:32:30.399 --> 01:32:38.159 And indeed, our fellowship is with the Father, uh, and with this and with his son Jesus Christ. 01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:38.880 Beautiful. 01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:41.920 That word for fellowship, right, is Koinonia. 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:43.039 You guys have heard it before. 01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:44.239 Yeah, is partnership. 01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:55.920 That is literally participation or social intercourse or pecuniary benefaction to communicate or communication, commune, uh, distribution, fellowship. 01:32:56.079 --> 01:33:02.640 Now, this guy is saying that what we heard, we saw it with our own eyes. 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:06.560 We looked upon it, our hands literally handled. 01:33:07.840 --> 01:33:11.279 Thomas put his hand in that, in his hands. 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:15.359 That's who we are talking about. 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:21.199 We are talking about him from the perspective of what we encountered for ourselves. 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:28.880 And the reason why it happened like that is that when we write about him and you read about him, you can have the same fellowship that we had. 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:35.119 So when you're reading scripture and you feel him close, it's because somebody was close to him. 01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:45.600 When you're reading 1 Peter and is talking about you will do well to pay attention to this word as a shining light, a light that shines in the darkness, right? 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:57.840 And you are gaining faith within yourself, your faith is going from glory to glory, is because of somebody that literally sat down and ate with him and was able to write about him. 01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:08.159 And because they wrote about him based off of the fact that they walked with him, now you get to have a deeper sense of relationship and fellowship with the Lord Himself. 01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:18.319 So this thing called discipleship is the primary, most singular way of God being able to sustain his church on earth. 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.680 Peter, who do you who do they say that I am? 01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:28.640 Some say Elijah, some say Isaiah, some say the prophet, all these things. 01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:30.880 Oh, who do you say that I am? 01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:33.359 You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God. 01:34:33.680 --> 01:34:36.319 You can't make that type of statement from afar. 01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:39.119 Nah, I've been walking with you. 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.520 There's only one thing that you could possibly be. 01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:44.640 You're the Christ. 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:50.720 Blessed are you, Simon Barjonh, for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my father who are in heaven. 01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:57.119 You are so close to the Son of God that the Father can speak to you. 01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:02.399 Like it's personal. 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:03.199 Yeah. 01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:05.039 Oh. 01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:27.920 So I I think even in in looking to overcome things like pornography, uh, things like any type of addiction, if you find yourself struggling, I think one of the first things I know, not I think one of the first things we need is exposure to the hidden sin. 01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:30.000 You need communion. 01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:38.159 You need somebody to tell, you need somebody to pray with you, you need somebody to teach you the word to help them get out of it. 01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:44.800 We need that as men, we need that as a woman, we need that as or they need that as women. 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:49.600 I'm not a woman, but we need that as a community, especially in the faith. 01:35:49.840 --> 01:35:55.760 Pornography is sinful, it is affecting our soul. 01:35:56.399 --> 01:36:02.159 If we partake in it, it will affect our destiny, right? 01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:26.720 Because at the end of the day, if your conscience, Hebrews chapter 9, verse 14, the blood of Jesus is able to cleanse your conscience from dead works, that you may serve a living God, and you are created for good works, then that means that we need to confront the soul and extract whatever is in the soul, what whatever is wicked in the soul out of you. 01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:28.479 So it needs to be confronted. 01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:37.439 You need community for that, you need the word, you need prayer, you need fasting, all of that, but we need to address it, or else it's gonna ruin things. 01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:46.399 Imagine looking at your wife and just seeing a sex figure, and you can't, you can't look past that. 01:36:47.359 --> 01:37:02.960 You can't, you can't like you want to, but you can't stand her when it's not sex, yeah. 01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:05.359 Alan, you haven't spoken, bro. 01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:06.880 Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, say something. 01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:10.079 I'm just I'm just listening, I'm just I'm learning right now. 01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:11.920

Yeah, yeah, I'm learning a lot right now. 01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:13.920 But yeah. 01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:20.000 Alright, so with that being said, I know we're running out of time. 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:26.560 Yeah, we're probably gonna have a part two, honestly, because yeah, this it's been two hours and it's f and it literally flew by. 01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:42.800 I was even gonna ask, like, lastly, like so at what point do you know like you're being sanctified, you're like becoming closer with Christ when it comes to specifically like battling like lust. 01:37:42.960 --> 01:38:01.279 Is it just being able to cut off things that will like easily push lust towards you, or is it like not necessarily a point where like you don't feel lust, but like you're able to like recognize it and kind of like stop it at the source before yeah. 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:13.199 See the cutoff and even the resistance that you build against any sin um is uh uh honestly towards the end stages of your deliverance. 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:23.439 The preliminary stages have nothing to do with how you feel or what you think, it has everything to do with exposing your mind to what the word of God says. 01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:26.479 That's that's when the dissentification process begins. 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:40.479 I just want to give one scripture um Ephesians chapter 5, um Ephesians chapter 5, verse um 26. 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:48.479 Um, and for the sake of time, um, it says that he might let me start from the verse 25. 01:38:48.560 --> 01:39:01.920 It says, Husband, love your wives just as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for her, that he might sanctify her and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word. 01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:06.319 The moment you engage the word, the sanctification process has already started. 01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:13.199 Now, the end of the word is the manifestation of the word in your life. 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.960 That's when we can say, like, I bet I probably shouldn't do this. 01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:20.479 You might stumble, or I bet I'm not going to do this. 01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:21.119 Why? 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:24.720 Because now the word is finishing up the cleansing process. 01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:29.039 But the moment you engage the word, the sanctification process has already started. 01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:29.920 Yeah. 01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:31.600 Thank you for that. 01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:33.119 Yeah, always. 01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:34.960 Alright. 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:41.840 With that being said, um we're we're we're 100% gonna have a part two. 01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.279 We just have to see when he's free next to the busy man. 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:49.600 But yeah, I I don't think we even got through half of the things that I actually wanted us to talk about as well. 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:51.520 So we're we're gonna have a part two. 01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:58.880 So um, with that being said, uh where's your head at for the next two weeks? 01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:01.279 Start with Allen that we'll go wrong. 01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:02.319 Um mine. 01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.600 My birthday is coming up in two weeks. 01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:06.960 How old are you turning? 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:08.239 I don't want to say it. 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:10.239 No, because I'll be you don't want to say it. 01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:13.439 You don't want to say it. 01:40:13.680 --> 01:40:14.399 2025. 01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:15.760 So I'll be pushing 30. 01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:17.439 My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend. 01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:21.199 I'll finally be pushing 30. 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:24.159 I've been saying to these guys for the past few years, so that's up. 01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:33.439 And then I'm also having a program at my church that I'm actually the one planning kind of a youth um prayer and worship night for two days. 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:35.439 You gotta shout it out so they know what to come. 01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:41.680 Yeah, it's gonna be um at CPIC, Christ Pentecostal International Church, on June 19th and 20th. 01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:41.920 Wow. 01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:45.840 The first night would be prayer and deliverance, and the second night would be worship and praise. 01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:50.399 So if you can't make both days, at least come Saturday and just come worship with us. 01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:51.840 Yeah, cool. 01:40:54.159 --> 01:41:06.560 For me, um my head is just continuing to like improve every day, whether it's getting in my word, um, whether it comes to fitness, have a little more free time because school is over for now. 01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:12.479 So just taking the summer to taking advantage of the summer while I have some more time. 01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:13.439 Yeah, yeah. 01:41:13.680 --> 01:41:14.239 Right. 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:17.359 Um, I'm looking forward to hanging out with my wife. 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:24.159 I feel like she's been the sacrificial lamb for uh for the past month or so, you know, just engagement after engagement. 01:41:24.319 --> 01:41:33.600 So hanging out with her, and then also uh there's some projects that I'm starting, and I'm excited to see what you know the next two weeks develop into. 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:35.359 So yeah, I'm excited. 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:36.960 Thank you for having me, you guys, by the way. 01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:37.920 Thank you for coming, man. 01:41:38.159 --> 01:41:39.119 Thank you, and Igi, for coming. 01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:41.840 Always, always, always mummy e. 01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:43.199 Shout out, babe. 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:48.399 Uh I'd say for me, it's kind of more the same as Mike. 01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:51.359 Um, except I just started school again. 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:56.479 Yeah, so um, yeah, it is a lot less free time now. 01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:58.560 There's a lot of things I'm working on. 01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:03.760 But yeah, at the end of the day, just thank God that we even have the time to do the things that we need to do. 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.479 Um, so with that being said, my name is Isha. 01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:07.439 It's your boy Mike. 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:08.159 I'm Allen. 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:09.039 I'm Rich. 01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:10.319 And we'll see you guys. 01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:12.880 Thank you for tuning in and watching this episode. 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:16.479 Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, and share. 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:17.439 Bye.