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a jihadist, saying that he wanted 00:02:20.259 --> 00:02:23.659 Sharia law and said that Christmas would be banned 00:02:23.659 --> 00:02:26.879 if El-Sayed wins. I'm not really sure legally 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.659 how that would work. In foreign elections, we 00:02:30.659 --> 00:02:33.979 have some news out of Brazil. Lula came back 00:02:33.979 --> 00:02:37.560 80 years old, won a fourth term with nearly 52% 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.419 of the vote. But his opponent, Flavio Bolsonaro, 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:45.280 who's the son of the former president of Brazil, 00:02:45.539 --> 00:02:49.180 is very upset about it and refusing to concede. 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.150 And in Serbia, Aleksandar Vucic has conceded 00:02:53.150 --> 00:02:56.129 defeat. He's basically dominated Serbian politics 00:02:56.129 --> 00:03:00.810 since 1987. So this is really an earthquake in 00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:04.129 Serbian politics. And last, and probably kind 00:03:04.129 --> 00:03:06.849 of least, but worth talking about, is the Young 00:03:06.849 --> 00:03:11.289 Turks video claiming that three guys claim to 00:03:11.289 --> 00:03:14.569 have had sex for money with the late Senator 00:03:14.569 --> 00:03:17.169 Lindsey Graham. Good morning, Jeff. Thanks so 00:03:17.169 --> 00:03:19.229 much for filling in for Jamarl. Thanks for having 00:03:19.229 --> 00:03:21.590 me on. Again, I always love chatting with you. 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.819 So, what do you, and by 00:03:25.819 --> 00:03:27.780 the way, oh, and if you have questions, please 00:03:27.780 --> 00:03:30.520 go ahead and pipe those in and producer Robby 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:32.800 will go ahead and put them into the live chat 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.680 here if you are watching live between 9 and 11 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.439 on Monday. Okay, so, first of all, what 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:41.439 do you make of the polls? Do you agree that, 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:43.539 would you put money, if you're 00:03:43.539 --> 00:03:45.819 a betting man, would you put money on Democrats 00:03:45.819 --> 00:03:49.099 taking back the House and the Senate or just 00:03:49.099 --> 00:03:52.849 the House? Yeah, I would for 00:03:52.849 --> 00:03:54.810 sure, obviously, for sure would put money on 00:03:54.810 --> 00:03:57.349 the House. I'd probably hedge my bet a little 00:03:57.349 --> 00:04:00.110 bit on the Senate. But I think the 00:04:00.110 --> 00:04:02.729 weird and crazy thing about this election cycle, 00:04:02.770 --> 00:04:03.909 and I think you and I have talked about this 00:04:03.909 --> 00:04:07.250 before, is that it was like this thing 00:04:07.250 --> 00:04:08.969 is really going to come down 00:04:08.969 --> 00:04:11.189 to voter turnout, as it always does. But this 00:04:11.189 --> 00:04:14.530 time, it's really weird because I feel like, 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.480 especially going on in the Republican Party and 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.180 probably to a certain degree in the Democrats, 00:04:19.339 --> 00:04:21.379 I don't think as much. But in the Republican 00:04:21.379 --> 00:04:24.279 Party, there truly is a civil war going on. And 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:26.959 there's more and more Republicans that are talking 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.180 about sitting out, not voting, blackpilling 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:33.300 the whole deal. And so when we're looking at 00:04:33.300 --> 00:04:36.279 it, it's like, OK, it could go either 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.360 way. It just depends on how fired up Trump can 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:41.259 get his base. And can that offset the black 00:04:41.259 --> 00:04:43.519 pillers in the America First wing of the crowd, 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:45.439 they're like, well, enough's enough. 00:04:45.459 --> 00:04:48.319 War in Israel and all of these different things 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.660 that are going on. And so I think that this one 00:04:51.660 --> 00:04:54.600 is going to be hard to predict, especially on 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:57.639 a state-by-state basis. I think overall, I think 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.439 Democrats are going to take the House, 00:04:59.579 --> 00:05:01.920 possibly the Senate. But it's going to be interesting 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.240 to see which specific races either flip or change 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:08.160 or surprise us, because there is that wildcard 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.600 factor of the Republicans that normally 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.040 vote and have voted traditionally for 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.139 years and years and years. I'll be like, dude, 00:05:16.139 --> 00:05:19.279 enough's enough. I can't. Democrats 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.459 Republicans are two sides of the same coin, so 00:05:21.459 --> 00:05:25.050 what's the point? So this is obviously 00:05:25.050 --> 00:05:27.629 a conundrum that people, that all 00:05:27.629 --> 00:05:29.589 Americans who vote for one of the two major 00:05:29.589 --> 00:05:31.370 parties always go through. The two-party 00:05:31.370 --> 00:05:34.750 drop. As much as I hate my own side 00:05:34.750 --> 00:05:37.370 for not coming through for me, I need to send 00:05:37.370 --> 00:05:39.269 a message to the other side who I hate even more. 00:05:39.410 --> 00:05:41.509 And obviously right now, the biggest problem 00:05:41.509 --> 00:05:43.209 that Republicans have, people say it's 00:05:43.209 --> 00:05:44.850 Donald Trump. I think the biggest problem that 00:05:44.850 --> 00:05:46.589 they have is that they're incumbents, right? 00:05:46.709 --> 00:05:50.189 And people are really angry at the 00:05:50.189 --> 00:05:53.649 incumbency. By the way, just parenthetically, 00:05:53.810 --> 00:05:55.949 there's an ad that's been floating around Michigan 00:05:55.949 --> 00:05:58.129 and now it's gone national. I'm sure you've seen 00:05:58.129 --> 00:06:01.350 it where it's a couple shopping for groceries. 00:06:01.949 --> 00:06:05.790 And at one point, the woman says, oh, no, 00:06:05.810 -->

00:06:08.949 no, we can't buy eggs. Put those back. Because 00:06:08.949 --> 00:06:10.889 remember, we have to send money. We have to send 00:06:10.889 --> 00:06:13.129 money to kill Palestinians, is how she puts it, 00:06:13.149 --> 00:06:15.930 not to Israel. And then the husband says, 00:06:15.990 --> 00:06:17.689 wait a minute, don't we already send them $4 00:06:17.689 --> 00:06:19.930 billion a year? And she's like, well, no, actually, 00:06:20.050 --> 00:06:22.129 we have to just send them another $26 billion. 00:06:22.810 --> 00:06:26.490 That ad is being characterized by Zionists as 00:06:26.490 --> 00:06:28.949 anti-Semitic. This morning that's the talking 00:06:28.949 --> 00:06:30.649 point all over the internet. I'm sure you've seen 00:06:30.649 --> 00:06:33.990 it and I'm like, okay, let's just say you hate 00:06:33.990 --> 00:06:36.370 the ad and just let's just say that you stipulate 00:06:36.370 --> 00:06:38.769 that aid to Israel is important for 00:06:38.769 --> 00:06:41.829 whatever reason, but how is it anti-Semitic? It's 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:43.629 like that. It doesn't say we're 00:06:43.629 --> 00:06:46.149 sending money to Jews. It says we're sending money 00:06:46.149 --> 00:06:49.550 to the state of Israel. It would be no different 00:06:49.550 --> 00:06:51.649 than saying that if we're sending money 00:06:51.649 --> 00:06:55.250 to Somalia, like, oh, it's an anti-Black ad 00:06:55.250 --> 00:06:57.949 or it's like, no, it would just be 00:06:57.949 --> 00:07:01.110 maybe an anti-Somali ad that you could say. 00:07:01.110 --> 00:07:05.110 It just feels like that 00:07:05.110 --> 00:07:08.949 talking point has exhausted itself and that 00:07:08.949 --> 00:07:10.810 Zionists are out of arrows in their quiver 00:07:10.810 --> 00:07:13.899 at this point. Well, I think they are. I think 00:07:13.899 --> 00:07:16.120 the problem is that they are holding on with 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:18.220 everything they can to whatever power they can 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:20.540 hold on to for as long as they can. I think they 00:07:20.540 --> 00:07:26.019 also know that it's largely a generational thing 00:07:26.019 --> 00:07:30.230 as well. Polling numbers and I think the perfect example is that primary race of Thomas Massie versus Ed Gallrein 00:07:34.089 --> 00:07:36.569 where the older you were the more likely you 00:07:36.569 --> 00:07:38.790 were to vote for MAGA and the Zionists and the 00:07:38.790 --> 00:07:40.470 younger you were the more likely you were to 00:07:40.470 --> 00:07:43.449 vote for Massie and his wing of the Republican 00:07:43.449 --> 00:07:46.649 party and vote against Israel. And I think 00:07:46.649 --> 00:07:48.350 that what's happening is you have the older generation 00:07:48.350 --> 00:07:51.079 of the Republican Party that's holding on to 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.360 whatever the power they can for way too long, 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:55.980 and they think to a certain 00:07:55.980 --> 00:07:57.600 degree that as long as we can just discredit 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.959 these guys as a bunch of racist and anti-Semitic 00:07:59.959 --> 00:08:01.779 people, then this younger crowd 00:08:01.779 --> 00:08:03.060 they're never going to take over. It's like you 00:08:03.060 --> 00:08:05.399 do realize how life works. At a certain point 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.060 you die and then other people fill in the gap 00:08:09.060 --> 00:08:11.959 and they just, it's this revolving door kind 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.160 of a thing. And it's very 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.120 weird how the Zionist crowd doesn't understand 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.040 that. And again, I'm one of those guys 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.740 that I've been a lifelong Zionist myself. I've 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:24.860 recently kind of walked away from that. I don't 00:08:24.860 --> 00:08:27.759 go full on to the other side, which is 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:29.519 completely anti. To me, I'm just like, 00:08:29.579 --> 00:08:32.559 can we focus on America right now? That 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:33.879 would be nice. I mean, we've got 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:38.190 It shouldn't cost me $10 for a dozen eggs. 00:08:38.350 --> 00:08:41.929 I just filled up my car the other day. I think 00:08:41.929 --> 00:08:45.970 I paid $7.49 in gas out here in California. 00:08:46.250 --> 00:08:50.570 It's bonkers. I'm like, at a certain point, can 00:08:50.570 --> 00:08:52.710 we focus on these things, these things that you 00:08:52.710 --> 00:08:56.389 promised us in the 2024 election? Can we do that 00:08:56.389 --> 00:09:01.029 instead of fight this war on behalf of Israel 00:09:01.029 --> 00:09:03.250 and Benjamin Netanyahu and all that kind of stuff. 00:09:03.350 --> 00:09:05.490 And I think to bring it back to this ad, I think 00:09:05.490 --> 00:09:08.830 it's a phenomenal ad because it really hits home 00:09:08.830 --> 00:09:13.909 on the issue of, okay, who are we focused on? 00:09:14.169 --> 00:09:16.610 And the thing that I've been warning Republicans 00:09:16.610 --> 00:09:19.110 for a long time, and nobody listens to me because 00:09:19.110 --> 00:09:21.210 I'm just the crazy guy over here that, 00:09:21.210 --> 00:09:24.570 anti-Trump, whatever it is. But literally, 00:09:24.649 --> 00:09:26.809 you're just like... you go down the 00:09:26.809 --> 00:09:28.870 talking points. You look at the website of these 00:09:28.870 --> 00:09:32.190 Democrat candidates and what they're doing 00:09:32.190 --> 00:09:34.789 is they're hitting home on the pain points that 00:09:34.789 --> 00:09:37.429 Americans feel. Now me as a constitutional 00:09:37.429 --> 00:09:40.070 Christian conservative, I disagree with a lot 00:09:40.070 --> 00:09:42.090 of the conclusions and I disagree with the direction 00:09:42.090 --> 00:09:44.629 and the way that they want 00:09:44.629 --> 00:09:47.070 to fix it from these Democrats, but at the same 00:09:47.070 --> 00:09:50.169 time I don't think that the American

people, 00:09:50.169 --> 00:09:52.090 the everyday person that doesn't pay attention 00:09:52.090 --> 00:09:54.950 to day-to-day politics really is looking at 00:09:54.950 --> 00:09:57.049 okay, what is the solution that you're offering? 00:09:57.049 --> 00:09:59.570 What they're looking at is do you feel my pain? 00:09:59.570 --> 00:10:02.669 Do you understand what the problem is? Oh, you're 00:10:02.669 --> 00:10:04.389 putting forth a solution. Great. Well, what's going 00:10:04.389 --> 00:10:06.809 on right now clearly isn't working. Let's try 00:10:06.809 --> 00:10:09.350 this guy over here. I think that 00:10:09.350 --> 00:10:11.470 for the day-to-day people that aren't 00:10:11.470 --> 00:10:13.330 looking at day-to-day politics and 00:10:13.330 --> 00:10:14.389 all that but they're just trying to get through 00:10:14.389 --> 00:10:17.279 life, they're looking at who actually feels my 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.519 pain or who actually says that they feel my pain. 00:10:19.779 --> 00:10:21.740 And that's going to impact whether they turn 00:10:21.740 --> 00:10:23.820 out to vote or not and all that. And I think 00:10:23.820 --> 00:10:26.179 that's where this midterm is, I think, going 00:10:26.179 --> 00:10:28.840 to be a wild card. I mean, I'm really glad that 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.519 you brought that up. Bill Clinton, 00:10:31.700 --> 00:10:33.779 of course, popularized the I feel 00:10:33.779 --> 00:10:38.220 your pain. And it was effective, obviously. People 00:10:38.220 --> 00:10:41.159 believed it. I was on the floor of the convention 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.980 hall in 1992 when he gave that speech, and people 00:10:43.980 --> 00:10:47.120 all around me were crying. I mean, it was effective. 00:10:48.379 --> 00:10:52.080 I don't think that anyone feels that 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:57.740 Barack Obama felt much of anything. Maureen Dowd 00:10:57.740 --> 00:11:02.360 famously called him Spock. And in 2016, Trump 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.639 definitely gave you, and I've said this before 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.080 and I'll say it again, that Trump's gift and 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.220 the reason that he won with millions of dollars 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:11.299 running against a campaign with billions of dollars 00:11:11.299 --> 00:11:13.120 was because he was able to look out the window 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.720 of his car driving through my hometown of Dayton, 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.259 Ohio, where he, I think, went more than anywhere 00:11:18.259 --> 00:11:21.399 else in that cycle. And he was able to think, 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.769 look at those boarded houses and the 00:11:23.769 --> 00:11:27.409 closed down factories and the opioid crisis and 00:11:27.409 --> 00:11:30.409 think, man, it would suck to live here. I wouldn't 00:11:30.409 --> 00:11:32.429 want to live here. And then go to a rally and 00:11:32.429 --> 00:11:35.230 say, man, it sucks to live here, right? And then 00:11:35.230 --> 00:11:37.330 people are like, yeah. And it's the first time 00:11:37.330 --> 00:11:41.970 that people felt seen by a politician from any 00:11:41.970 --> 00:11:46.710 party for years. That was Trump's gift. And I 00:11:46.710 --> 00:11:50.120 mean, I don't want to ever say anything about 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.220 him as a bad politician. I think he's one of the 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:54.399 most gifted politicians of our time and he's 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.820 revolutionized campaigning in a way that 00:11:56.820 --> 00:11:59.120 people, analysts have not yet. They're 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.980 still using stump speeches. Like, no, Donald 00:12:01.980 --> 00:12:04.259 Trump killed the stump speech. That's done. 00:12:04.259 --> 00:12:09.779 And he's proven it. But now, is it the DC bubble? 00:12:09.779 --> 00:12:13.259 Is it the, I mean, in his second term he has 00:12:13.690 --> 00:12:15.610 I mean, he's basically telling people, I crap 00:12:15.610 --> 00:12:18.690 on your pain. Like, oh, a small price to pay, 00:12:18.830 --> 00:12:21.029 he said over the weekend. A little 00:12:21.029 --> 00:12:23.450 more in gas and groceries in order to make sure 00:12:23.450 --> 00:12:25.929 that Iran doesn't get nuclear weapons. You told 00:12:25.929 --> 00:12:28.149 us that you'd already made sure that Iran couldn't 00:12:28.149 --> 00:12:30.389 get nuclear weapons. You already told us that 00:12:30.389 --> 00:12:32.690 it was all nuclear dust, whatever that means. 00:12:32.909 --> 00:12:36.070 So, I mean, we don't really, the fearmongering 00:12:36.070 --> 00:12:39.009 doesn't work. We don't believe you. And so it's 00:12:39.009 --> 00:12:41.850 like, so you're basically telling us you don't 00:12:41.850 --> 00:12:45.860 care in terms of our 00:12:45.860 --> 00:12:50.059 pain, and there's literally nothing more politically 00:12:50.059 --> 00:12:53.480 suicidal than that, as Joe Biden learned too. He 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.320 didn't. He was like, well, I don't, the 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.320 economy is better than you idiots think. Like, 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.379 now we'll tell you how the economy is. Yeah, well, 00:13:01.379 --> 00:13:03.840 now the thing that I've been 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.600 told that I actually had Tom Rands, 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:10.919 who has. He's actually friends with Bobby 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.600 Kennedy and has a lot of connections with the 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:14.980 White House and all that kind of stuff. And he 00:13:14.980 --> 00:13:17.320 was on my show last week. And he said 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.059 that basically Susie Wiles and the Trump administration 00:13:20.059 --> 00:13:24.460 has taken away Trump's access to social media. 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.480 So he can't actually get on to X like 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.779 he used to in his first term to see what people 00:13:29.779 --> 00:13:31.580 are actually saying. So they've actually 00:13:31.580 --> 00:13:33.720 become his

gatekeepers. And I know this for a 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:36.279 fact, even going back to when Trump was 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.710 campaigning, I was trying to get Kennedy to 00:13:38.710 --> 00:13:41.950 team up with Trump, and I went through 00:13:41.950 --> 00:13:44.769 Steve Bannon to get to the White House, and even 00:13:44.769 --> 00:13:47.889 Steve Bannon, right, who was close with 00:13:47.889 --> 00:13:50.769 Trump and ran his campaign and all that, he couldn't 00:13:50.769 --> 00:13:52.889 even get direct access to Donald Trump, and he 00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:55.289 had to go through somebody else who then squashed 00:13:55.289 --> 00:13:57.529 it when I actually went, actually when 00:13:57.529 --> 00:13:59.909 I tried to make this connection, and then immediately 00:13:59.909 --> 00:14:02.190 came out and bashed RFK Jr. and said he's more 00:14:02.190 --> 00:14:04.250 progressive than even Joe Biden and the 00:14:04.250 --> 00:14:06.110 most progressive people out there. You're 00:14:06.110 --> 00:14:08.809 just like, okay, so this is. They clearly, he's got 00:14:08.809 --> 00:14:11.289 gatekeepers. They're keeping him insulated because 00:14:11.289 --> 00:14:14.230 they know that if they let him loose and 00:14:14.230 --> 00:14:16.570 actually connect with the people, then guess 00:14:16.570 --> 00:14:18.049 what's going to happen is he's going to realize, 00:14:18.190 --> 00:14:20.690 oh, crap, I'm screwing all these guys. And 00:14:20.690 --> 00:14:22.429 so I think to a certain degree, he's in his own 00:14:22.429 --> 00:14:25.549 little bubble. I think that he's only 00:14:25.549 --> 00:14:28.899 being given the approved messages from people, 00:14:28.899 --> 00:14:31.659 and so I think to a certain degree he 00:14:31.659 --> 00:14:34.340 he's alienated, and that's not an excuse on his 00:14:34.340 --> 00:14:36.779 behalf because he allowed it to happen. He didn't 00:14:36.779 --> 00:14:38.740 have to say, yeah, what, I should probably 00:14:38.740 --> 00:14:41.720 allow you to take X and Truth Social directly 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.179 off my phone. He could have said, yeah, what? 00:14:44.179 --> 00:14:47.240 No, I want to hear from the people. But instead, 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:50.870 he's allowing somebody, and I would say Susie 00:14:50.870 --> 00:14:53.370 Wiles if not a few other people, to actually control 00:14:53.370 --> 00:14:55.450 that message. I also thought it was fascinating. 00:14:55.450 --> 00:14:58.070 Did you see Trump's second endorsement of 00:14:58.070 --> 00:15:00.950 Benjamin Netanyahu on Truth Social? It was, I 00:15:00.950 --> 00:15:03.250 was reading through it, and number one, it was 00:15:03.250 --> 00:15:05.850 so flipping long that I was reading it the other 00:15:05.850 --> 00:15:07.789 night and my wife looks over my shoulder 00:15:07.789 --> 00:15:10.539 and she's like, what is that? The print is so small 00:15:10.539 --> 00:15:12.320 because it was like a screenshot, and I'm like, 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.299 she's like, that's a lot for one single post. 00:15:15.299 --> 00:15:17.639 But it was fat because he basically admitted 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:19.720 in there, and I don't even think he realized it, 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:23.100 but he admitted in there that they lied 00:15:23.100 --> 00:15:25.860 to us to get into the Iranian war. So in there, 00:15:25.860 --> 00:15:28.379 he literally said, we attacked Iran the first 00:15:28.379 --> 00:15:30.679 time, we obliterated their nuclear program, we 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:32.399 made it to where they can't achieve nuclear weapons, 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:34.700 and then now we're destroying their navy and 00:15:34.700 --> 00:15:36.580 their military and controlling all these things. 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:38.720 And I'm like, but you told us the whole reason 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.759 why we're at war right now is because they were 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.899 two weeks away again from nuclear weapons. So 00:15:43.899 --> 00:15:46.460 you just admitted that we're now stuck in this 00:15:46.460 --> 00:15:51.139 stupid Iranian war over a lie. And that's basically 00:15:51.139 --> 00:15:53.460 that was my takeaway from his Benjamin Netanyahu 00:15:53.460 --> 00:15:57.860 second endorsement there. Yeah, it also, I agree 00:15:57.860 --> 00:16:00.340 with that. And I also thought it was so long- 00:16:00.340 --> 00:16:02.799 winded that it almost reminded me of an ISIS 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.519 hostage video. Like, no, really, 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.679 really, truly, I'm being well-treated 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.080 by Benjamin Netanyahu. He's awesome. I love him 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:17.059 so much. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess 00:16:17.059 --> 00:16:19.960 the thing is, if things are exactly that way 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.179 and he's being gatekept by 00:16:23.179 --> 00:16:26.159 Susie Wiles or whoever else, that's on him. Right. 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.399 I mean, and as in terms of for us as voters, 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:32.539 we can't think. I mean, I remember reading 00:16:32.539 --> 00:16:35.799 histories of World War II where soldiers, German 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.700 soldiers serving on the Eastern Front with inadequate 00:16:38.700 --> 00:16:42.149 winter gear were saying, ah, if 00:16:42.149 --> 00:16:44.789 the Fuhrer knew about this, he'd be really pissed. 00:16:45.169 --> 00:16:47.230 And we can't get into that mode, 00:16:47.269 --> 00:16:49.409 of sort of thinking, well, if Trump really 00:16:49.409 --> 00:16:51.370 knew what was going on, then he would 00:16:51.370 --> 00:16:54.389 fix it. Maybe, but that's sort of, that's not 00:16:54.389 --> 00:16:56.309 going to put any, make eggs more affordable 00:16:56.309 --> 00:17:01.100 or make gas not $7 a gallon. So, I mean, so, 00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:02.919 all right, so let's get back to the midterms. 00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:05.480 I mean, it seems like this is an enthusiasm gap.

00:17:05.579 --> 00:17:09.970 It's like a flip side of 2016 in a way because 00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:13.150 in 2016 you had people like me who had 00:17:13.150 --> 00:17:15.549 supported Bernie Sanders in the primaries 00:17:15.549 --> 00:17:18.849 and then were very unhappy with not only the 00:17:18.849 --> 00:17:20.930 fact that Hillary Clinton was the nominee but 00:17:20.930 --> 00:17:23.589 also with the way that she had treated Bernie 00:17:23.589 --> 00:17:25.470 Sanders and the progressive wing of the party 00:17:25.470 --> 00:17:28.450 and basically we don't need you, go to hell, 00:17:28.450 --> 00:17:30.509 drop dead, and we're not going to listen to you 00:17:30.509 --> 00:17:33.210 at all, and then by the way they get really mad 00:17:33.210 --> 00:17:35.289 at us when we don't vote for her. But between 00:17:35.289 --> 00:17:38.660 three and five million by some counts Bernie 00:17:38.660 --> 00:17:40.799 voters did not show up in the general election 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.220 for the Democrats, and that was a key contributing 00:17:44.220 --> 00:17:48.500 factor to Trump's victory. I mean, are 00:17:48.500 --> 00:17:50.500 Republicans going to, I don't think Republicans 00:17:50.500 --> 00:17:52.619 are going to flip and vote Democratic, but are 00:17:52.619 --> 00:17:55.619 our Republican voters going to sit on their hands 00:17:55.619 --> 00:17:58.380 this week? Are they going to just 00:17:58.380 --> 00:18:00.980 sort of maybe think they have other things to 00:18:00.980 --> 00:18:03.420 do than vote just because they're just not 00:18:03.420 --> 00:18:06.480 that excited about either side? Yeah, well, the 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.380 more that I talk to people in kind of the America 00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:13.680 First wing, which I find myself more in alignment, 00:18:13.700 --> 00:18:16.420 obviously, than the MAGA wing of the Republican 00:18:16.420 --> 00:18:19.059 Party, even though I feel like I'm kind of in 00:18:19.059 --> 00:18:20.819 the middle of everybody where I don't agree with 00:18:20.819 --> 00:18:22.400 anybody and I agree with everybody simultaneously, 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:24.480 which is a very weird position to be in. But 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.660 the more that I'm talking to people, it seems 00:18:27.660 --> 00:18:30.039 as if what they're going to be doing is most 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.380 people that I've talked to are going to vote 00:18:32.829 --> 00:18:36.089 in the midterms, but they're not voting in the 00:18:36.089 --> 00:18:37.829 national election. They're going to vote on the 00:18:37.829 --> 00:18:39.630 state basis because that's where they actually 00:18:39.710 --> 00:18:40.990 care about. That's where they feel 00:18:40.990 --> 00:18:43.269 like that they can actually affect change. And 00:18:43.269 --> 00:18:45.970 so I think that we're going to see an increased 00:18:45.970 --> 00:18:49.490 number of Republicans specifically 00:18:49.490 --> 00:18:52.670 that are voting, but

they're just refusing to 00:18:52.670 --> 00:18:55.450 vote for the National Republican Party, and they're 00:18:55.450 --> 00:18:58.670 voting for their local elections. And then you're 00:18:58.670 --> 00:19:00.109 just going to have people that just, they're 00:19:00.109 --> 00:19:02.480 just not. They're not even motivated to take 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.380 the time off of work or the time to get down 00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:06.900 to the polling or to write it out and mail it 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:09.400 in. And it just because I think they 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:13.299 feel they feel betrayed because, and I think rightly 00:19:13.299 --> 00:19:15.900 so. And this is the thing that for 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:19.119 me as a lifelong Republican, I've been 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:22.160 trying to raise, and I get a lot of crap 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.579 from a lot of the Republican leaders because 00:19:24.579 --> 00:19:27.339 of this. But I'm like, you have 00:19:27.339 --> 00:19:30.480 to address these issues. And this is the problem. 00:19:30.660 --> 00:19:33.980 You promised us no regime change wars, no forever 00:19:33.980 --> 00:19:37.359 wars. We're going to get out of the foreign interventionism. 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:39.980 That was a huge part of the campaign that brought 00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:42.859 in the former Democrats like RFK Jr. and Tulsi 00:19:42.859 --> 00:19:45.359 Gabbard and all that kind of stuff and brought 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:49.319 in that part of the big tent GOP in 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.059 2024. That was the promise. And then what do 00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:55.160 you do? You go in and you basically do a regime 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.799 change overnight in Venezuela. And then you go 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:59.460 into Iran thinking you could do the same thing 00:19:59.460 --> 00:20:01.799 you did in Venezuela and Iran, which is the dumbest 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:03.460 thing you'll possibly think of. And then they 00:20:03.460 --> 00:20:05.299 were floating the idea of doing this in Cuba. 00:20:05.500 --> 00:20:06.779 And they're still talking about doing this in 00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:09.880 Cuba now. And you're just like, this is not what 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:11.740 you promised us. And then we were 00:20:11.740 --> 00:20:13.319 led to believe that Kennedy was going to get 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.039 in there and pull the mRNA 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:19.170 shots. That clearly hasn't happened. I'm told 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:22.349 that he was basically given a sandbox and you 00:20:22.349 --> 00:20:24.029 can do whatever you want in this little sandbox, 00:20:24.170 --> 00:20:25.990 but you can't touch our mRNA. You can't touch 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:27.710 this. You can't touch that. You can't touch that. 00:20:27.950 --> 00:20:30.549 And so he basically has Big Food is still running 00:20:30.549 --> 00:20:33.049 rampant. Exactly. Big Food, Big Ag. I mean, they're 00:20:33.049 --> 00:20:35.630 putting pesticides in the foods. They're approving 00:20:35.630 --> 00:20:38.490 all of these toxic things. And I'm like, Kennedy, 00:20:38.589 --> 00:20:41.109 come on, get with the program. And then you've 00:20:41.109 --> 00:20:44.230 got Kash Patel and Bongino and the 00:20:44.230 --> 00:20:47.119 FBI and the DOJ that they've clearly not drained 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:49.339 the swamp like Kash Patel promised me he would 00:20:49.339 --> 00:20:52.599 when he was on my show before he became FBI director. 00:20:53.019 --> 00:20:56.140 They gaslight us repeatedly on Epstein, 00:20:56.140 --> 00:21:00.700 on even the JFK files. And then now with this Brian Cole Jr. case that's going 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.059 on like that one makes me more livid than 00:21:06.059 --> 00:21:09.619 anything, seeing them arrest this autistic 00:21:09.619 --> 00:21:12.539 Black kid in order to cover up the 00:21:12.539 --> 00:21:14.660 Capitol Police officer who's the one who actually 00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:17.180 planted the bombs, who, oh yeah, it now works for 00:21:17.180 --> 00:21:19.500 the CIA. Shocker. And we're just sitting 00:21:19.500 --> 00:21:21.119 there and we're just like, 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:25.319 guys, if you would just stop gaslighting us and 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:27.559 acting as if you didn't make all these promises, 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.940 then I think people could be like, yeah, you 00:21:29.940 --> 00:21:31.339 want things have changed and whatever it is, but 00:21:31.339 --> 00:21:34.369 you can't do a 180 and then pretend 00:21:34.369 --> 00:21:36.549 like you never made the promise and then be shocked 00:21:36.549 --> 00:21:38.750 that people are like, dude, what's going on? 00:21:38.789 --> 00:21:41.509 You promised us this and now you're doing that. 00:21:41.650 --> 00:21:43.529 And I think that that's where the Republicans 00:21:43.529 --> 00:21:46.589 have gotten themselves in trouble and they got 00:21:46.589 --> 00:21:49.549 their hand caught in the cookie jar. Yeah, no, 00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:52.049 I mean, yeah, I was also wanted to get your take. 00:21:52.130 --> 00:21:54.710 This is maybe more on from my side of the aisle, 00:21:54.769 --> 00:21:56.809 but there's sort of a phenomenon that we don't 00:21:56.809 --> 00:21:59.269 talk about a lot in political analysis about 00:21:59.329 --> 00:22:02.299 sort of the consent of the loser. Right. 00:22:02.380 --> 00:22:07.359 So, for example, in 1988, George H.W. Bush wins. 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.400 I voted for Dukakis, but actually that's 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:13.039 a lie. I probably voted for Jesse Jackson that 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.799 year. But the point is that I wasn't 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:19.200 really sad because George H.W. Bush won because 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.519 I thought fundamentally he's not that bad. He's 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:24.039 not that. He's a pretty reasonable guy. I mean, 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.299 I don't think

he's a fucking maniac. And then 00:22:26.299 --> 00:22:29.720 so. And so I think. You bring 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:32.759 us back to 2024 when Trump was running again. 00:22:32.819 --> 00:22:35.019 I think a lot of Democrats, you'll note they 00:22:35.019 --> 00:22:37.779 didn't freak out. There was no giant anti-Trump 00:22:37.779 --> 00:22:40.720 protests when he was inaugurated the second time. 00:22:41.059 --> 00:22:42.960 And I don't think that was just exhaustion. I 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.279 think people were like, you know what? 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.200 He might end these wars. He might end the Gaza 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.309 genocide. That wouldn't be entirely bad. I had 00:22:52.309 --> 00:22:54.670 Democratic friends and liberal friends who said, 00:22:54.670 --> 00:22:56.990 I like the Tulsi Gabbard thing. I like 00:22:56.990 --> 00:23:01.990 the RFK Jr. thing. So those people also, I think, 00:23:01.990 --> 00:23:04.369 are feeling really betrayed. Right? So there's 00:23:04.369 --> 00:23:07.109 kind of like now there's a counter-coalition, 00:23:07.109 --> 00:23:10.369 an anti, I want to send a message. 00:23:10.369 --> 00:23:12.109 I mean, granted these people are all going to 00:23:12.109 --> 00:23:14.329 be terribly disappointed after the Democrats 00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:16.930 win and sell them out the way that both parties 00:23:16.930 --> 00:23:19.670 always sell us out. Right? That will just, that's 00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:22.170 just an endless cycle which we should talk about. 00:23:22.170 --> 00:23:28.009 But yeah, so I mean, I think that Trump's 00:23:28.009 --> 00:23:30.769 idea the first time around was let's make things 00:23:30.769 --> 00:23:33.390 so vague that we'll be able to say that it means 00:23:33.390 --> 00:23:35.529 anything, like Make America Great Again. Well, 00:23:35.529 --> 00:23:39.250 what period are we talking about? How, what 00:23:39.250 --> 00:23:42.910 what's the focus? America First somehow 00:23:42.910 --> 00:23:46.470 doesn't seem as vague as Make America Great Again. 00:23:46.470 --> 00:23:49.269 America First is like, I'm not sure what 00:23:49.269 --> 00:23:51.710 America First is, but I know it doesn't mean H- 00:23:51.710 --> 00:23:55.390 1B visas. I know that. And I know it doesn't mean 00:23:55.390 --> 00:23:58.170 no job retraining for Americans. And I know it 00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:01.690 doesn't mean sending money overseas when people 00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:04.769 are hurting here at home. I know that. Right. 00:24:04.890 --> 00:24:07.410 I think in a way he boxed himself in a little 00:24:07.410 --> 00:24:10.509 bit with a little with specificity, which was 00:24:10.509 --> 00:24:13.710 to be expected also being, it's also 00:24:13.710 --> 00:24:18.130 a different deal when I think, remember 00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:22.119 Anthony Weiner. The New York voters forgave Anthony 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.740 Weiner the first time he screwed up. And they 00:24:24.740 --> 00:24:27.140 were like, OK, we'll let it go. You can stay 00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:30.420 in office. It's fine. And then he did it again. 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.579 And New Yorkers were like, we gave you a pass. It's not happening twice. I feel 00:24:37.829 --> 00:24:40.869 like the bargain that the American 00:24:40.869 --> 00:24:43.849 electorate gave Donald Trump in 2024 was like, 00:24:43.930 --> 00:24:47.410 listen, we've forgiven January 6th. We are going 00:24:47.410 --> 00:24:50.450 to overlook all the litigation, some of which 00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:52.710 makes you look terrible. We're going to overlook 00:24:52.710 --> 00:24:55.750 some of the rhetoric. We're going to overlook 00:24:55.750 --> 00:24:59.089 everything. We know you. It's like your ex-wife 00:24:59.089 --> 00:25:02.089 taking you back after you've gone through the 00:25:02.089 --> 00:25:04.170 ugly divorce and you've both cheated on each 00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:06.269 other. It's okay. We're getting back together 00:25:06.269 --> 00:25:08.869 now. We're remarrying, right? It's like Liz Taylor 00:25:08.869 --> 00:25:11.890 and Richard Burton. We know each other. And it's 00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:14.309 like, okay, so now the American people, I think, 00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:16.230 are feeling double betrayed because it's like, 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.920 We took you back despite everything. And you 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.259 were highly problematic. We would have never 00:25:22.259 --> 00:25:24.660 taken anyone else back. And now look at what 00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:29.180 you did. Yeah. No, it's a very good point. And 00:25:29.180 --> 00:25:32.279 I think that Trump's interpretation 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:36.119 of it and probably also the people around 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.359 him and the die-hard MAGA people is 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.660 that America's MAGA now, right? The Republican 00:25:41.660 --> 00:25:44.380 Party is MAGA now, and he won because of 00:25:44.380 --> 00:25:46.119 the MAGA vote, and you're like, no, he won because 00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.160 he had all these different individual constituencies 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.480 that he catered to during the run, and 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:54.220 then he made all these different 00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:56.500 kinds of promises that he didn't keep. So basically 00:25:56.500 --> 00:25:59.559 it was kind of a fraudulent campaign when you 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:01.359 think about it because they campaign on things 00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.750 that within a year he was already doing a complete 00:26:03.750 --> 00:26:06.670 180 on. And I think that the difference too 00:26:06.750 --> 00:26:10.589 is that in Trump 1.0, there was, obviously, 00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:15.990 because we lost the midterms in that one, which, 00:26:16.029 --> 00:26:18.470 again, most of the time the incumbency, they 00:26:18.470 --> 00:26:20.569 lose the midterms. They lose at least one or 00:26:20.569 --> 00:26:22.950 both of

the chambers of Congress. And that's 00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:26.109 just, in my opinion, to be expected, right? But 00:26:26.109 --> 00:26:29.509 at that point, there was some discontention amongst 00:26:29.509 --> 00:26:31.849 the Republicans where it was like, he hasn't 00:26:31.849 --> 00:26:34.029 done this. He hasn't done that. But that was 00:26:34.029 --> 00:26:36.329 just something where he hasn't accomplished 00:26:36.430 --> 00:26:38.670 again those vague promises that he had made 00:26:38.670 --> 00:26:41.250 yet. This is different in that he's done a complete 00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:44.009 180. And I think that this is where 00:26:44.009 --> 00:26:46.009 a lot of people in, and you had 00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:48.130 mentioned earlier about some of the 00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:51.109 things he was saying about, if Democrats 00:26:51.109 --> 00:26:53.309 win, no more Christmas and no more of this. And 00:26:53.309 --> 00:26:54.750 he's, you know what? And I'm just sitting there 00:26:54.750 --> 00:26:56.829 and I'm like, OK, when you actually sit down 00:26:56.829 --> 00:26:58.309 and you think logically, and maybe correct me 00:26:58.309 --> 00:26:59.630 if I'm wrong because, Ted, you probably know 00:26:59.630 --> 00:27:02.200 this better than I do, right? But OK, so if the 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:05.200 Republicans lose, let's say they lose 00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.960 one or both chambers of Congress. Let's say for sure we lose the House of Representatives. 00:27:11.380 --> 00:27:13.359 Let's say hypothetically 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.779 Republicans hold on to the Senate. OK, Democrats 00:27:16.779 --> 00:27:20.559 win Congress. What actually happens? Because 00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:23.740 last I checked, you got to have legislation go 00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:25.720 through both chambers of Congress. You have to 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.819 have the president sign it into law. If he doesn't 00:27:27.819 --> 00:27:29.059 sign it into law, it goes back and then they 00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:30.660 have to override it with, I think it's like two- 00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:32.819 thirds vote and all. Like, when you actually sit 00:27:32.819 --> 00:27:34.960 down and think about it, nothing's gonna happen. 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.240 So now 2028 is an entirely different conversation. 00:27:39.619 --> 00:27:41.839 Like, that's a conversation about, okay, 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.259 now if you're gonna run with the rhetoric of 00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:45.680 like Democrats are gonna take away Christmas 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:50.240 and implement Sharia law, that would be the theoretical 00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.769 scenario where they would do that. Not in the 00:27:52.769 --> 00:27:54.849 midterm because you still hold on to the White 00:27:54.849 --> 00:27:56.549 House. Let's say that they impeach Trump, kick 00:27:56.549 --> 00:27:57.809 him out, whatever it is. Well, guess what? You 00:27:57.809 --> 00:28:00.289 get J.D. Vance next. You kick out J.D. Vance. 00:28:00.289 --> 00:28:01.609 What happens? You have another Republican that's 00:28:01.609 --> 00:28:03.630 going to fill the plate. Like, you're not going 00:28:03.630 --> 00:28:06.369 to have the Democrats run rampant on this country 00:28:06.369 --> 00:28:09.650 and be able to implement laws arbitrarily that 00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:12.250 are taking away your right to celebrate 00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:14.609 Christmas. Like, that's just not going 00:28:14.609 --> 00:28:16.769 to happen. So when you're thinking about it from 00:28:16.769 --> 00:28:21.059 that perspective. And I'm very tempted to not 00:28:21.059 --> 00:28:23.319 vote, although I don't know if I can bring myself 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:25.539 to do it. But when you actually sit there and 00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:28.720 think about it, like, let's say me not voting, 00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:33.069 Democrats taking one or both chambers of Congress, 00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:36.089 all it's going to mean is that Trump's not going 00:28:36.089 --> 00:28:38.309 to accomplish things that he's trying to accomplish. 00:28:38.430 --> 00:28:40.589 And guess what? I disagree with what he's trying 00:28:40.589 --> 00:28:44.049 to accomplish. So technically speaking, the best 00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:46.150 thing to do would be to make it to where Republicans 00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:49.509 don't control the House and the Senate because 00:28:49.509 --> 00:28:51.710 I don't want Trump fast-tracking artificial 00:28:51.710 --> 00:28:54.130 intelligence in the way that he is. I don't want 00:28:54.130 --> 00:28:57.349 him continuing this war in Iran. I don't want 00:28:57.349 --> 00:29:00.329 him basically doing his actual, not his state 00:29:00.329 --> 00:29:02.490 of platform, but the platform that he's actually 00:29:02.490 --> 00:29:05.390 implementing, or I don't like it. So wouldn't the 00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:07.509 most effective thing to do basically mean to 00:29:07.509 --> 00:29:10.009 where you can't really get anything done, vote 00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:13.250 for some gridlock, right? But there's no good luck. 00:29:13.250 --> 00:29:16.009 Trump is ruling by executive order. What is Congress 00:29:16.009 --> 00:29:20.440 actually doing? Nothing. It's all executive order. 00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.579 He's not going through the congressional system. 00:29:25.339 --> 00:29:29.059 There is something to that. I think there is 00:29:29.059 --> 00:29:32.059 something to that. I think the flip side is that 00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:35.140 because the Republicans are constantly running 00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:38.119 on the fact that the Democrats will just hold 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.140 up Trump and they're going to vote to impeach 00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:42.960 and just probably do impeachment after impeachment 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:45.690 after impeachment. That's fine. But again, that 00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:49.829 will control what's going on to a certain degree. 00:29:50.150

--> 00:29:52.490 But I agree with you, Robby, especially right 00:29:52.490 --> 00:29:56.490 now. He's running on executive order. But to 00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:57.970 a certain degree, there's only so much you can 00:29:57.970 --> 00:30:00.170 do on executive order. And on top of that, that 00:30:00.170 --> 00:30:02.490 can all be undone by the next president. And 00:30:02.490 --> 00:30:04.950 if he can't get legislation passed, then this 00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:06.970 is going to be just like a flash in the pan, 00:30:07.069 --> 00:30:12.029 in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, well, let's talk 00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:14.049 about the one real implication that will happen 00:30:14.049 --> 00:30:17.460 from the Democrats taking back the House. I'm 00:30:17.460 --> 00:30:20.000 going to buy into that and assume that can happen. 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.539 Obviously, the subpoenas are going to be flying 00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:25.440 fast and furious. There's going to be 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.859 the House Oversight Committee will no longer 00:30:27.859 --> 00:30:31.200 be under James Comer. There's going to be maybe 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.700 another, I would assume, another effort to impeach 00:30:33.700 --> 00:30:36.420 President Trump over something. Probably not 00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:38.079 emoluments, which is what it should have been 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.500 the first time and should be again. I mean, this 00:30:42.500 --> 00:30:45.730 is where Democrats kind of will. If they go that, 00:30:45.829 --> 00:30:49.009 they're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard 00:30:49.009 --> 00:30:52.529 place, right? I mean, if they don't, they kind 00:30:52.529 --> 00:30:56.049 of, the red meat of the base wants blood. They 00:30:56.049 --> 00:30:59.329 want these investigations. They want subpoenas. 00:30:59.450 --> 00:31:02.170 They want Trumpies dragged in front 00:31:02.170 --> 00:31:04.869 of the cameras and forced to testify 00:31:04.869 --> 00:31:08.130 over and over. But that's all a distraction from 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:10.809 the needs and wants of the American people. And 00:31:10.809 --> 00:31:14.109 while they're doing that, they're not even 00:31:14.109 --> 00:31:16.190 thinking about like if there's something they 00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:18.990 can do about the price of eggs. They're not focused 00:31:18.990 --> 00:31:21.630 on anything like that. I mean, and I don't really 00:31:21.630 --> 00:31:23.809 believe that the Democratic Party can do both 00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:26.890 at the same time. They won't. They'll just be like, we're going after the Trumpies. And 00:31:28.809 --> 00:31:31.430 that'll just seem like, here we go 00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:34.049 again, and the voters will be in an ornery mood 00:31:34.049 --> 00:31:39.660 of a different flavor in two years. 00:31:39.660 --> 00:31:43.000 I mean, am I wrong? No, I think you're right. 00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:45.819 But both parties play this game of 00:31:46.410 --> 00:31:49.109 just pointing out the most evil, crazy, whatever 00:31:49.109 --> 00:31:51.670 about the other side. I mean, it's why, again, 00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:55.230 it's another reason why a lot of former Trump 00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:57.789 supporters are not voting for him is that he 00:31:57.789 --> 00:32:01.250 didn't go after the Democrat Party with the DOJ 00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:03.690 and all of that. Again, the Republican Party 00:32:03.690 --> 00:32:07.029 was out for blood. And I think a lot of it was 00:32:07.029 --> 00:32:10.750 somewhat justifiable in the sense of a lot of 00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:15.980 us have been directly impacted by the censorship 00:32:15.980 --> 00:32:19.000 regime of Joe Biden, not to say that Trump's 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.160 not implementing his own censorship regime as 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.619 well, which is actually happening. 00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:26.559 But when you think about 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:28.819 it, there's a lot of people that dealt 00:32:28.819 --> 00:32:31.319 with very real world scenario problems. For 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.819 example, a buddy of mine, Brandon Straka, 00:32:33.819 --> 00:32:36.940 the founder of the WalkAway movement, 00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:40.059 he had his door, you know, broken 00:32:40.059 --> 00:32:43.700 down by the FBI and arrested for his involvement 00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:46.259 in J6, where he literally stood on the opposite 00:32:46.259 --> 00:32:50.920 side of the Capitol building and didn't enter 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.400 the building, nothing along those lines. And 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.660 they said that he was trespassing because he 00:32:56.660 --> 00:32:59.099 was beyond the point of where the barriers were 00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:01.259 supposed to be. Not that the barriers were there, 00:33:01.339 --> 00:33:03.319 but that where the barriers were supposed to 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.160 be. And they said because he was where 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.920 that theoretical line was supposed to be, because 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:08.880 somebody else had moved the barriers, that they 00:33:08.900 --> 00:33:10.539 arrested him. So literally I 00:33:10.539 --> 00:33:12.380 know, I personally know people that have been 00:33:12.380 --> 00:33:15.099 targeted by the FBI because of who they 00:33:15.099 --> 00:33:18.339 were, found on technicalities and all. So 00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:21.539 from that standpoint, it's like there is a justifiable 00:33:21.539 --> 00:33:24.690 seek of vengeance or a revenge or 00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:26.809 something along those lines because everyday 00:33:26.809 --> 00:33:29.029 people have been caught up in this kind of political 00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.009 feud and weaponization of the government. But 00:33:32.009 --> 00:33:33.970 the problem is that at 00:33:33.970 --> 00:33:37.150 a certain point you can only go 00:33:37.150 --> 00:33:39.150 after your enemies so much before people like, 00:33:39.150

--> 00:33:42.930 but what about me? I'm like, I look 00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:45.250 at my inflation. Look at my 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:49.480 real world issues that I'm dealing with. And then 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.579 guess what? Inflation's going crazy. But what's 00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.319 going to happen when AI is fully implemented 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:54.980 and everything's automated and I don't have a 00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:56.880 job anymore? Like, what's life going to be like 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.460 then? And nobody's talking about that because 00:33:58.460 --> 00:34:00.759 it's so much about the Democrats are evil 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.779 and we gotta, we're gonna lock them up, even though 00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:04.359 Trump said we're never gonna lock them up. And 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.239 you're just, it's such a weird fight because 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.960 nobody's actually focusing on the American people. 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.960 And the one thing I'll throw this 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.059 out there and then I'll throw it back to you, 00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:17.639 Ted, is that my thing is when I'm looking at President 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.619 Trump, I think that part of what's happening 00:34:20.619 --> 00:34:23.019 is the gatekeepers. Part of what's happening 00:34:23.019 --> 00:34:26.699 is, again, they took away his access 00:34:26.699 --> 00:34:28.619 to the American people from social and all that 00:34:28.619 --> 00:34:31.119 kind of stuff. But part of it is I think Trump's 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.760 true interpretation of America First is coming 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.800 through in the sense that he's looking at America 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.159 first as America the entity, America the country. 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.360 So how could be the world's biggest superpower? 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.219 How can we have the world's biggest economy and 00:34:45.219 --> 00:34:47.139 the biggest GDP and the biggest stock prices 00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:50.400 and this, that, and what he's doing is 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.000 he's making deals with other countries. He's making 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.179 deals with, he's making deals with big corporations. 00:34:56.179 --> 00:34:59.300 He's fast-tracking artificial intelligence because 00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:01.280 he wants to be the top dog in the AI race and 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:03.929 beat China and all that. But who's getting 00:35:03.929 --> 00:35:05.650 hurt? It's the American people. So he's putting 00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:08.909 America the entity first and not Americans first. 00:35:09.150 --> 00:35:11.570 And I think that that's the problem that the 00:35:11.570 --> 00:35:14.429 Republicans are facing right now is that I think 00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:18.070 the Trump base has an interpretation of America 00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:20.610 First, meaning he's putting the American people 00:35:20.610 --> 00:35:22.650 first because that's what he pitched us back 00:35:22.650 --> 00:35:26.269 in 2016. And Trump is running with putting America 00:35:26.269 --> 00:35:28.769 the country first and how do we beat everybody 00:35:28.769 --> 00:35:31.630 else in all of these stupid races? And it's like, 00:35:31.710 --> 00:35:35.130 OK, but at what cost? Like, OK, great. We win 00:35:35.130 --> 00:35:37.570 the race against China. OK, because 00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:39.710 we're going to fight against communism. But then 00:35:39.710 --> 00:35:42.170 it's literally going to usher in communism here. 00:35:42.329 --> 00:35:43.889 So really, what's the difference between us and 00:35:43.889 --> 00:35:46.389 China if we both are doing the exact same thing? 00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:49.309 Well, I mean, I'm glad you brought this up. And 00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:51.670 by the way, Robby, please tee up the ad that 00:35:51.670 --> 00:35:53.309 you brought up. Just keep it, get it ready, but 00:35:53.309 --> 00:35:57.519 don't play it yet. So. In my view, 00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.760 that used to be the big distinguishing definition 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.719 between people would ask, what's the difference 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.500 between left-wing and right-wing politics? And 00:36:03.500 --> 00:36:06.239 I would say, well, in America, the left-wing 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.519 vision of the country is sort of a European French 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.719 style. Like, we are, what 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.699 really matters is people's individual rights 00:36:15.699 --> 00:36:17.739 as an individual, their rights and their privileges. 00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:20.690 Whether that be social programs or 00:36:20.690 --> 00:36:23.750 free speech or whatever. And in right-wing politics 00:36:23.750 --> 00:36:26.349 writ large is more about the glory of the state 00:36:26.349 --> 00:36:29.190 and sublimating individual rights. That's breaking 00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:32.809 down. That's no longer. I mean, we're seeing authoritarianism 00:36:32.809 --> 00:36:35.809 on the left, not just cancel culture, 00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:39.539 but we're also seeing. It's just like 00:36:39.539 --> 00:36:42.840 the, well, for example, the Democrats have become 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.400 the war party more than the Republicans. So we're 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.219 in the middle of this massive realignment. And 00:36:47.219 --> 00:36:50.659 in fact, my column this week, which I just wrote 00:36:50.659 --> 00:36:53.739 the first draft of yesterday, is about whether 00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:55.960 there's common ground between the populist left 00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:59.960 and the populist right that can form actually 00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:03.079 a viable, not minor third party, but a 00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.940 new major party. Is there common ground 00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:08.760 there? And it's something I want to talk 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.059 to you about. But let's watch this ad,

Robby. 00:37:12.059 --> 00:37:14.619 This is sort of about, this sort of helps frame 00:37:14.619 --> 00:37:17.780 the issue. Robby, go ahead and play it. Why does 00:37:17.780 --> 00:37:20.960 Israel matter to America? Because we get practical 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.059 benefits. A strong Israel helps keep Americans 00:37:24.059 --> 00:37:27.159 safe. Israel shares intelligence that helps identify 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.400 threats before they reach us. It confronts dangers 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.059 on the front lines, so American troops are not 00:37:33.059 --> 00:37:35.780 drawn into a wider conflict. That cooperation 00:37:35.780 --> 00:37:38.920 helps keep war and terror threats far from our 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.280 shores. Fewer threats, less risk to Americans. 00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:48.389 A stronger Israel means a safer America. Wow. 00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:56.849 Okay. That's something. So it's like, yeah, I 00:37:56.849 --> 00:37:58.610 mean, it's like, but wait, right now we're in 00:37:58.610 --> 00:38:01.309 a war because of Israel. Osama bin 00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.630 Laden said that he attacked us on 9/11 in part 00:38:03.630 --> 00:38:06.550 because of Israel's occupation of the occupied 00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:10.050 territories. But it's amazing. Go ahead, 00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:12.050 Robby. Well, I have a question for both of y'all. I mean, y'all do politics for your living. 00:38:16.329 --> 00:38:19.010 Isn't that ad the very definition of foreign 00:38:19.010 --> 00:38:22.900 interference in American politics? I mean, isn't 00:38:22.900 --> 00:38:25.440 that exactly what that is? Isn't that a foreign 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.380 nation directly trying to influence how American 00:38:29.380 --> 00:38:32.719 voters vote? Sure. I mean, I think they're really 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.440 thinking about hacking voting machines and 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.260 what Russia supposedly did in 2016, but 00:38:38.260 --> 00:38:41.460 didn't. That's what people think. But 00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:44.119 you're right. It is absolutely foreign interference 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.739 in an American election. No question about it. 00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:51.159 But, I mean... So getting back to the populist 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.380 left, populist right, I mean, I was thinking 00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:57.380 about, what would it take for such an alliance 00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:00.760 to work? And very clearly, the populist left 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.400 would have to do something that would be kind 00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:07.239 of not too hard, which is to sort of shed away 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.780 a lot of the walk away or back burner 00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:14.940 a lot of woke stuff, right? Trans 00:39:14.940 --> 00:39:17.539 athletes in girls' sports and stuff like that. 00:39:18.730 --> 00:39:22.070 Left-wing populists, socialists and left libertarians 00:39:22.070 --> 00:39:24.429 and communists don't care

about that stuff much 00:39:24.429 --> 00:39:29.329 anyway. So that'd be a pretty easy gimme. I think 00:39:29.329 --> 00:39:32.070 where the challenge would be, and we'd all agree, 00:39:32.349 --> 00:39:35.409 okay, resources and attention should be focused 00:39:35.409 --> 00:39:38.989 on the American people first, control our borders. 00:39:39.469 --> 00:39:43.110 As I always say, if the unemployment rate is 00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:49.570 over zero, no H-1B visas. Then so that kind 00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:51.570 of thing we could all, I think, get on the same 00:39:51.570 --> 00:39:53.590 page there. I think where trouble would be like, 00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:55.570 okay, so we've now, we're no longer sending money 00:39:55.570 --> 00:39:58.510 to Ukraine or Israel or God knows where 00:39:58.510 --> 00:40:01.889 else, and we're now. So the question is, what happens 00:40:01.889 --> 00:40:05.070 to that money next? I think that's where a populist 00:40:05.070 --> 00:40:08.309 front has its challenges, right? Because the 00:40:08.309 --> 00:40:10.789 left would say, no, let's do some jobs retraining 00:40:10.789 --> 00:40:13.610 programs. Let's help poor people. Let's address 00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:17.329 the opioid crisis and help people get into rehab 00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:19.690 and stuff like that. And I think a lot of people 00:40:19.690 --> 00:40:23.469 on the right, please elucidate me, would probably 00:40:23.469 --> 00:40:26.010 say, well, we should pay down the deficit. We 00:40:26.010 --> 00:40:29.170 should become fiscal conservatives first. That's 00:40:29.170 --> 00:40:30.690 what we should be doing with the money instead. 00:40:30.969 --> 00:40:34.789 I mean, is that where the problem would be? Well, 00:40:34.829 --> 00:40:38.530 I think that number one, I 00:40:38.530 --> 00:40:42.710 think that kind of coalition, and I've often 00:40:42.710 --> 00:40:45.230 thought about this because there is, when 00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:46.750 you think about it, going back to Trump back 00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:49.389 in 2016, there was a lot of overlap between him 00:40:49.389 --> 00:40:50.849 and Bernie Sanders. They just came to different 00:40:50.849 --> 00:40:52.849 conclusions. They came to different applications 00:40:52.849 --> 00:40:54.550 of how do we fix the problem and all that kind 00:40:54.550 --> 00:40:59.000 of stuff. I think that there is a very plausible 00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:01.780 thing. And I've spoken with a few different people 00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:04.539 in and around Tucker and Marjorie 00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:05.840 Taylor Greene. And that's one of the 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:08.519 things that they're actually discussing is doing, 00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.699 getting a viable third party where they bring 00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:14.980 in the more the Bernie Sanders type Democrats 00:41:14.980 --> 00:41:17.980 that they can kind of coalesce 00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:21.369 around. I think that to me, I think 00:41:21.369

--> 00:41:23.949 that the scenario where it could potentially 00:41:23.949 --> 00:41:27.829 work, but I don't see it living long term, but 00:41:27.829 --> 00:41:29.590 for the short term I think it can actually be 00:41:29.590 --> 00:41:33.949 effective is that you have one party that agrees 00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:36.690 on the fundamental core issues, like 00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:39.309 okay, look, we all disagree on all these different 00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:41.429 things, but we agree we need to put America first. 00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:43.449 We need to secure our borders. We need to stop 00:41:43.449 --> 00:41:45.730 funding, not just Israel, but 00:41:45.730 --> 00:41:47.489 all these countries that we're sending billions 00:41:47.489 --> 00:41:49.969 and billions and billions of dollars to. No 00:41:49.969 --> 00:41:52.949 foreign interventionism. Actually 00:41:52.949 --> 00:41:55.489 put America first and put the American 00:41:55.489 --> 00:41:59.030 people first. I think if we focus on fixing 00:41:59.030 --> 00:42:01.909 the problems, I think that we could actually come 00:42:01.909 --> 00:42:04.789 together. The thing that I've thought 00:42:04.789 --> 00:42:08.679 about is that what if it was one party, but 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.780 two different wings. So for example, 00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:12.519 in the Republican Party, at one point you had 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.320 the Tea Party. Right. So it was a movement within 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.820 the Republican Party. What if you went into it 00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:18.880 with the understanding that almost like you're 00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:20.679 going to have two caucuses within here, with 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.739 it within the same whatever third party is, you're 00:42:22.739 --> 00:42:24.800 going to have the third party that trends left 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.980 and the third party that trends right. And that 00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:28.400 you guys are going to duke it out. We're going 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.139 to agree on these fundamental things. We're going 00:42:30.139 --> 00:42:31.739 to fix this. We're going to do this. We're going 00:42:31.739 --> 00:42:33.800 to do this. And then we'll duke it out here. 00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.320 And then maybe when it comes to actually voting 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.010 for legislation, one caucus will typically vote 00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:40.070 Republican, this caucus will typically vote Democrat, 00:42:40.070 --> 00:42:42.570 but when it comes to, we're going 00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:45.769 to agree on we're going to stop sending money 00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:47.170 to Israel, we're going to stop sending money to 00:42:47.170 --> 00:42:48.710 Ukraine, we're going to deal with this problem with China, we're going 00:42:50.550 --> 00:42:52.389 to deal with the borders, we're going to deal 00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:55.289 with AI and how it's going to take away everybody's 00:42:55.289 --> 00:42:57.469 jobs, we're going to deal with all that. I feel 00:42:57.469 --> 00:42:59.590 like there could be a very plausible, realistic 00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:02.510 scenario where if you commit to actually 00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:05.929 fixing those things, put aside all the rest of 00:43:05.929 --> 00:43:08.449 the differences, I think there could be a very 00:43:08.449 --> 00:43:10.409 real scenario where you could see a legitimate 00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:12.690 third party rise up. But I think you would have 00:43:12.690 --> 00:43:15.329 to go into it with the understanding that there 00:43:15.329 --> 00:43:18.289 are going to be two caucuses or two wings within 00:43:18.289 --> 00:43:22.170 that same party. And that's the pitch, is that 00:43:22.170 --> 00:43:24.929 we're not going to tell you you have to set aside 00:43:24.929 --> 00:43:27.769 everything permanently for this. Keep your identity. 00:43:27.889 --> 00:43:30.449 Keep your belief system. Keep all of that. We're 00:43:30.449 --> 00:43:33.130 just joining together to fix these things right 00:43:33.130 --> 00:43:36.260 here. We're just creating a new tent. We're just 00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:40.139 moving the parties into a new tent, right? Like, 00:43:40.139 --> 00:43:43.639 we're stealing MAGA from the Republicans and 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.079 we're stealing the Bernie bros from the Democrats, 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.000 and they come together under one tent. I mean, 00:43:49.019 --> 00:43:53.119 I'm being very, very facile and generalistic 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.920 here. But I mean, I think, I do see, 00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:58.920 I mean, this is kind of like the famous speech 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.619 that the leader of the Afghan resistance, Ahmed 00:44:01.619 --> 00:44:05.670 Shah Massoud, gave when he unified all the tribes 00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:08.409 of Afghanistan against the Soviets, and he toasted 00:44:08.409 --> 00:44:11.289 them all with apple tea, and he said, first we 00:44:11.289 --> 00:44:14.849 kill the Russians, then we kill each other. In 00:44:14.849 --> 00:44:17.590 other words, first things first, right? One thing 00:44:17.590 --> 00:44:19.210 that I think that you're missing 00:44:19.210 --> 00:44:22.349 about the populist right and populist left, they're 00:44:22.349 --> 00:44:24.250 not typical Republicans. Like, no, the Republicans 00:44:24.250 --> 00:44:26.030 always talk about paying out the deficit. 00:44:26.030 --> 00:44:29.110 The deficit always goes under them. What I'm 00:44:29.110 --> 00:44:32.250 about to say is probably represents maybe 90 00:44:32.250 --> 00:44:34.750 percent if not more of the America First right- 00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:37.989 wingers like me. They would actually side with 00:44:37.989 --> 00:44:41.449 the populist left on the priorities about what 00:44:41.449 --> 00:44:43.969 to do with the money from foreign aid. What could 00:44:43.969 --> 00:44:47.309 be a, you'd be hard-pressed to find a better 00:44:47.309 --> 00:44:50.070 way

to pay off the national debt. They get all 00:44:50.070 --> 00:44:52.150 these people who are addicted to opioids running 00:44:52.150 --> 00:44:54.530 around San Francisco like zombies. They get them 00:44:54.530 --> 00:44:58.500 clean, get them jobs, and paying taxes, actually 00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:00.760 get them to be productive. That's how you pay 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:02.460 down the deficits, but it's through productivity. 00:45:03.750 --> 00:45:08.809 So you drop the drug dealers out of airplanes, 00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:13.949 Afghan style. You clean up the junkie, get them 00:45:13.949 --> 00:45:17.230 into the workforce. The tax revenue comes in, 00:45:17.289 --> 00:45:19.789 the problem is solved. And you're killing two birds 00:45:19.789 --> 00:45:21.030 with one stone. You're getting rid of the social 00:45:21.030 --> 00:45:25.409 pathogen and the fiscal suicide. Little breaking 00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:28.110 news, by the way, about AI-related. Anthropic 00:45:28.110 --> 00:45:31.690 just released its IPO financials. They're admitting 00:45:31.690 --> 00:45:34.530 to something that we did not know prior, that 00:45:34.530 --> 00:45:37.230 they currently have an $80 billion loss on their 00:45:37.230 --> 00:45:40.630 books as they go into their IPO. That's wild. 00:45:41.210 --> 00:45:44.510 Yeah. I mean, well, the thing, and I've got some 00:45:44.510 --> 00:45:46.650 friends that are like, do a lot of 00:45:46.650 --> 00:45:48.530 investing and all that kind of stuff. 00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:52.280 And they've been telling me for a long time that, 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.599 and I think Elon even just confirmed this the 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:58.679 other day on Twitter, that there's going to be 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.480 basically an AI bubble because there's so much 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.420 money that's being thrown into this thing. Not 00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:06.360 to say that AI is going to go away because I 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.400 think that there's no way that they're going 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.260 to let it go away because this is how they dominate 00:46:11.260 --> 00:46:13.380 all of us and rule the world and centralize power 00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:15.559 and all that kind of stuff. But I think that 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.389 when you think about it, it's not just a couple 00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:20.090 of companies that are investing a lot of money. 00:46:20.130 --> 00:46:22.809 It's every single industry, every single vertical 00:46:22.809 --> 00:46:26.809 in our economy is investing money into artificial 00:46:26.809 --> 00:46:29.150 intelligence development and integration. There's 00:46:29.150 --> 00:46:31.590 so much. Companies are going into debt. 00:46:31.789 --> 00:46:34.650 Take Rumble, for example. Rumble has 00:46:34.650 --> 00:46:38.949 been losing on their stocks for years. They've 00:46:38.949 --> 00:46:42.289 been in the red. So what do they do to keep the 00:46:42.289 --> 00:46:45.760

shareholders happy is to get into the AI game 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.300 and AI development and computation and data centers 00:46:48.300 --> 00:46:49.880 and all that. So then that way they can say, 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.159 look, keep your stocks, keep your investments 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.500 in Rumble because you're investing for the future. 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:58.199 Right. So, but if the entire industry is going 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.960 into debt and investing quote unquote for the 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.489 future, that's a bubble that is going to burst 00:47:04.489 --> 00:47:06.369 because there's not enough money to go around 00:47:06.369 --> 00:47:08.469 unless we're just going to print ourselves. And 00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:11.829 there's no present. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's 00:47:11.829 --> 00:47:14.010 kind of like, I mean, and I 00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:15.789 do think that is kind of like the problem maybe 00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:18.949 with government is that I don't even 00:47:18.949 --> 00:47:21.070 understand, for example, we're 00:47:21.070 --> 00:47:23.349 talking about, we all know the disruption that 00:47:23.349 --> 00:47:27.190 AI is causing already in the jobs market. We 00:47:27.190 --> 00:47:30.070 know, for example, whether it's, obviously 00:47:30.070 --> 00:47:32.610 I think it's caused by humans. It doesn't matter. 00:47:32.670 --> 00:47:35.170 We know climate change is happening and we know 00:47:35.170 --> 00:47:37.239 we're going to have to deal with it. Why don't 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.079 we have blue ribbon commissions anymore of very, 00:47:40.139 --> 00:47:42.679 very smart academics and other people who get 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.460 together and advise the government and testify 00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:47.380 before Congress? Like, okay, so AI is coming 00:47:47.380 --> 00:47:49.460 and here's some of the possible solutions we 00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:54.199 could do if we wanted to. I mean, that's the 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.179 part that's so frustrating to me. We are supposed 00:47:57.179 --> 00:48:00.239 to be a smart country and we literally, we can 00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.679 see this train rolling towards us at one mile 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.719 an hour and we're just not getting out of the 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:08.179 way. Yeah. Well, but a lot of it is that, OK, 00:48:08.300 --> 00:48:09.920 who's going to pick these, quote unquote, experts in order to do 00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:13.219 the testifying? It's going to be the ones that 00:48:13.219 --> 00:48:15.760 fit in with whatever the narrative is, 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.619 of whoever's in power. And 00:48:18.619 --> 00:48:20.599 I think that that's one of the 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.420 interesting things too is that because Trump 00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:26.900 has been fast-tracking AI, you've got the Democrats 00:48:26.900 --> 00:48:29.239 that are quickly becoming the anti-AI 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.940 crowd. And but it's funny because it's like, 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:35.019 well, but they were the ones that were pro Silicon 00:48:35.019 --> 00:48:36.860 Valley and all the tech development and all that kind of stuff. And it's 00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:40.559 like, again, it comes back to it's kind of two 00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.340 sides of the same coin. And I think to a certain 00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:43.900 degree, it's probably controlled opposition of 00:48:43.900 --> 00:48:45.679 some kind because they just know it. This is 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:48.340 a good pitch to the people of like, we're fighting 00:48:48.340 --> 00:48:50.380 for you against the tyrannical Donald Trump that's 00:48:50.380 --> 00:48:51.900 centralizing all the power and taking away your 00:48:51.900 --> 00:48:55.039 power with AI and all that. All that to say is that it's like this. That's one of 00:48:58.099 --> 00:49:00.179 my biggest frustrations is exactly what you said 00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:03.679 is. Is like, AI is not going away. The question 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:07.239 that I've been posing is, what do we want America 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.519 to look like in the era of artificial intelligence? 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:11.820 And nobody wants to have that conversation. The 00:49:11.820 --> 00:49:14.320 only people having that conversation are Elon 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.619 Musk and Sam Altman and all that kind of stuff 00:49:16.619 --> 00:49:19.199 that like... Elon is pitching 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.760 his version of a communist utopia, which is basically 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.519 AI and robotics will do everything, will do nothing, 00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.079 will be completely reliant upon them, and that 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.800 we could just go about and live a hedonistic 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.559 lifestyle and do nothing and have no purpose 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:33.460 and all that. And that's just a byproduct of 00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:35.820 development. Who really cares? And you're just 00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:38.039 like, but... I've got a four-year- 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:39.820 old son. That's not the America I 00:49:39.820 --> 00:49:41.539 want my four-year-old son to grow up in and 00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:43.900 become an adult in and live in this 00:49:43.900 --> 00:49:45.940 world where he has no purpose. Is that really 00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:48.519 what we're all fighting for, is take away all 00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.679 of our purpose, take away all of our ability to 00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:53.300 earn and be self-sufficient and all that? And 00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:55.400 it's like these are conversations we should be 00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.300 having now before we get to the point of AI dominance. 00:50:00.030 --> 00:50:02.210 And not wait until we're there and like, oh, 00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:03.489 we should probably start having this conversation. 00:50:03.710 --> 00:50:06.150 Oh, our rights are

already taken away. Sorry, 00:50:06.269 --> 00:50:07.849 guys. There's no point to having the conversation 00:50:07.849 --> 00:50:11.030 now. Right. Well, yeah. I mean, of course, 00:50:11.030 --> 00:50:14.389 look, I hear you about the Elon Musk vision 00:50:14.389 --> 00:50:17.329 of things. What's he call it? Not a, it's not 00:50:17.329 --> 00:50:19.949 a universal basic income. It's a very, it's a 00:50:19.949 --> 00:50:23.710 high basic income. Which Trump is now endorsing 00:50:23.710 --> 00:50:25.789 as well. Trump backed it. Like Elon literally 00:50:25.789 --> 00:50:27.710 said in front of Trump and Trump's like, yep, 00:50:27.750 --> 00:50:30.440 that's where we're going. I mean, and look, I 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.360 can see the problems with that, just as you described. 00:50:32.659 --> 00:50:35.340 But I can, the problem of, 00:50:35.340 --> 00:50:37.360 I can imagine doing nothing is going to end up 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.099 like a dystopian wasteland where we're all eating 00:50:40.099 --> 00:50:43.179 out of garbage cans and killing. And 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.800 there's no, people are starving to death. It's 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.760 I mean, that's where we're headed because we 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:49.960 don't have much of a social safety net, not enough 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.130 to cover this. So, OK, so let's talk a little 00:50:55.130 --> 00:50:59.849 bit about this Lindsey Graham thing. I'm curious 00:50:59.849 --> 00:51:01.869 as a person of the right what you think 00:51:01.869 --> 00:51:04.829 about all this. I mean, I'm a little torn on 00:51:04.829 --> 00:51:07.969 the one hand. I mean, I do always like 00:51:07.969 --> 00:51:12.849 to see BS exposed, and the idea that Lindsey Graham 00:51:12.849 --> 00:51:15.510 wasn't gay, as Marjorie Taylor Greene said, was 00:51:15.510 --> 00:51:17.670 always laughable, right? I mean, it was kind of 00:51:17.670 --> 00:51:20.809 like an open secret in Washington. It was well 00:51:20.809 --> 00:51:24.010 known. He presented as gay. It's like, if that guy 00:51:24.010 --> 00:51:26.469 wasn't gay, then there are no gay people. Like, 00:51:26.469 --> 00:51:29.070 that's a gay guy. And I know a gay guy when I 00:51:29.070 --> 00:51:31.510 see a gay guy. And I think a lot of particularly 00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:34.329 gay people and their allies, they looked at it 00:51:34.329 --> 00:51:36.369 and they're like, it's annoying that 00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:40.010 you have a guy who votes against gay LGBTQ legislation 00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:44.210 and talks crap about us, but he's one of us, and 00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:46.690 that should be exposed. And I'm sympathetic 00:51:46.690 --> 00:51:50.349 to that. On the other hand, it's kind of not 00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:52.389 it's nobody's business. Right. And he didn't 00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:54.849 really want it. And he didn't want to 00:51:54.849 --> 00:51:57.449 share his truth, assuming that was his truth. 00:51:57.530 --> 00:52:01.630 Now we have this video from Young Turks that 00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:04.550 shows three dudes who claim that basically they 00:52:04.550 --> 00:52:07.730 were gay prostitutes who basically were. 00:52:08.309 --> 00:52:13.579 Their customer was Lady Lindsay. And 00:52:13.579 --> 00:52:16.559 then I'm thinking, OK, but does this matter 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.119 in any way, shape or form? I mean, the politics 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.070 of it just seemed tawdry. And so I can argue 00:52:25.070 --> 00:52:28.030 this either way. I mean, should we care? Why 00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:30.969 do we care? Does this have any? And this is obviously 00:52:30.969 --> 00:52:33.550 being released a week and a half, 00:52:33.590 --> 00:52:37.650 a week before a midterm election where Lindsey 00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.349 Graham's sister is running for his old seat after 00:52:41.349 --> 00:52:43.929 he died. That's, you can't miss the 00:52:43.929 --> 00:52:47.230 timing. What do you think about this? Yeah, 00:52:47.269 --> 00:52:50.670 it's interesting because I'm torn 00:52:50.670 --> 00:52:53.929 on it because I see arguments on both 00:52:53.929 --> 00:52:56.329 sides of it. Right. So for example, 00:52:56.369 --> 00:52:58.849 a good buddy of mine, Chad Caton, he's 00:52:58.849 --> 00:53:01.889 from South Carolina. He was one of Lindsey's 00:53:01.889 --> 00:53:03.809 grams, toughest critics. And he 00:53:03.809 --> 00:53:06.210 referred to him as Lady G. And he's like, 00:53:06.230 --> 00:53:09.030 it was known in and around South 00:53:09.030 --> 00:53:12.449 Carolina. Like, that's who he was and all of that. 00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:15.150 Now. I don't necessarily know if people knew 00:53:15.150 --> 00:53:20.849 that he was sleeping with underage boys and hookers 00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:23.550 and all that. That's, again, I think a revelation 00:53:23.550 --> 00:53:26.369 to a certain degree. But I think the thing that 00:53:26.369 --> 00:53:30.010 people forget is that that's also Washington, 00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:34.650 D.C. Again, I've known people a long time in 00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:36.889 and around D.C. I've known people in and around 00:53:36.889 --> 00:53:41.090 Hollywood, all that kind of stuff. It's a known 00:53:41.090 --> 00:53:43.690 fact that the vast majority of the people that 00:53:43.690 --> 00:53:48.090 you see and idolize and look up to that are famous, 00:53:48.269 --> 00:53:52.210 they've got some skeletons in their closet. The 00:53:52.210 --> 00:53:57.230 fact that we had a congressional fund to basically 00:53:57.230 --> 00:53:59.949 pay off sexual harassment claims should be evidence 00:53:59.949 --> 00:54:06.269 of that. When you think about it, why do we need 00:54:06.269 --> 00:54:11.519 that? It's weird. So I think what I think when 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.099 it comes to this, for me, I'm not the biggest 00:54:14.099 --> 00:54:19.159 fan of weaponizing this, because to me, anytime 00:54:19.159 -->

00:54:22.039 you weaponize this kind of a claim or an allegation 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.940 against the other, the quote unquote, the other 00:54:23.940 --> 00:54:26.940 party, the other guys, you're being hypocritical 00:54:26.940 --> 00:54:29.079 because your side is doing it too. Both sides 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.260 are doing the exact same thing that Lindsey is, 00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:33.519 that Lindsey Graham is doing, except maybe they're 00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:35.519 not covering up the fact that they're gay. Right. 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:38.320 But that's also happening a lot. I think it's 00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:40.079 also happening more than you think on the Republican 00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:41.960 Party side. It is. But also the shenanigans that go on, 00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:48.280 I've been told by people that are 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.340 in and around Washington, D.C., the shenanigans 00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:53.400 that go on inside the congressional offices are 00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.300 out of control and wild and crazy and 00:54:56.300 --> 00:54:59.099 sexual harassment all over the place and 00:54:59.099 --> 00:55:01.260 cover-ups and the whole deal. For me, 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.980 I say expose them all, but we shouldn't be 00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:06.739 doing it as just, okay, we're going to hold on 00:55:06.739 --> 00:55:09.460 to this until a week before the election and 00:55:09.460 --> 00:55:11.400 they're going to weaponize this against the other 00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:14.519 side because why aren't you weaponizing it against 00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:16.860 your side's doing it too? And I think 00:55:16.860 --> 00:55:18.820 that that's the problem with all of these 00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:20.940 hit pieces that we're seeing going flying all 00:55:20.940 --> 00:55:23.360 about is that you're trying to craft the narrative 00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.400 that the other side is evil, that the other side 00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.079 are hypocrites. It's both parties. Both parties 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.820 are doing this. Both parties are sleeping with. 00:55:29.820 --> 00:55:32.960 There's a reason why prostitution is running 00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.019 rampant in Washington, D.C. It's because it's Washington, 00:55:37.019 --> 00:55:39.960 D.C., and it's not just one party or the other. It's 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:42.519 all the parties. It's everybody in politics. I've 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:44.820 been around the political events. I've been around 00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:48.239 Republican leadership. When you get these guys away from the camera, 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.289 you go over to a bar, you have a drink or have 00:55:53.289 --> 00:55:55.289 dinner, whatever it is. A lot of these guys are 00:55:55.289 --> 00:55:56.750 some of the worst scum you can possibly imagine. 00:55:56.989 --> 00:56:00.250 They truly are. They are, and we've seen certain videos pop up of some 00:56:02.570 --> 00:56:04.550 of

your favorite influencers 00:56:04.550 --> 00:56:07.710 or commentators or whatever it is. They're 00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:10.269 all just awful people. They truly 00:56:10.269 --> 00:56:13.429 are. And I'm like, these are the people that 00:56:13.429 --> 00:56:15.829 we elect. These are the people that we send our 00:56:15.829 --> 00:56:17.630 money to. These are the people that we, quote 00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:19.889 unquote, support. They're some of the worst people 00:56:19.889 --> 00:56:22.190 you can possibly imagine. And it's not just one 00:56:22.190 --> 00:56:24.190 party, it's both parties. They're all just awful 00:56:24.190 --> 00:56:27.650 human beings. Well, I remember having this argument 00:56:27.650 --> 00:56:30.530 over with Scott Stantis, who co-hosts the DMZ 00:56:30.530 --> 00:56:33.550 show with me. He's a conservative. And he, about 00:56:33.550 --> 00:56:36.730 Larry Craig, the wide stance guy from the Senator 00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:40.869 from Idaho in the St. Paul airport. And 00:56:40.869 --> 00:56:42.750 he said, well, why are they picking on 00:56:42.750 --> 00:56:44.889 him? I said, well, because he's a values, a family 00:56:44.889 --> 00:56:48.409 values conservative, right? If you're Ted Kennedy 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:50.639 and you're sleeping with everything that moves, he's not 00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:55.519 telling, he's not pontificating about 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.260 morality or anything. He never claimed to be 00:56:58.260 --> 00:57:01.159 a moral, particularly moral person. His only 00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:03.340 promise is this is the way I'll vote, 00:57:03.340 --> 00:57:05.179 and one of the ways I'll vote 00:57:05.179 --> 00:57:09.059 is pro-gay rights. Larry Craig, there's a hypocrisy 00:57:09.059 --> 00:57:11.420 thing. I mean, there is. I mean, there's something 00:57:11.420 --> 00:57:14.639 to that, right? I mean, well, I think that 00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:16.860 there is something 00:57:16.860 --> 00:57:21.239 to that. I think that the other side is that the 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.500 position, for example, the Young Turks, 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.579 and there's been a lot of things I've been agreeing 00:57:26.579 --> 00:57:29.599 with with Cenk as of late in a lot 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.539 of his criticisms of Trump and 00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:33.980 all that kind of stuff. But the fact that he's 00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:37.519 doing, that he's making, putting out this documentary, 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:41.059 exposing Lindsey Graham or whatever it is, it's 00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:46.050 look at how bad he is. And again, you're 00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:48.409 not looking at your side. 00:57:48.489 --> 00:57:50.530 It's almost it. And I think that 00:57:50.530 --> 00:57:53.210 the problem with this is that Lindsey Graham, 00:57:53.329 --> 00:57:55.369 again, he's a traditional Republican. 00:57:55.530 --> 00:57:58.409 He's a neocon, whatever it is. He's not 00:57:58.409 --> 00:58:01.349 an evangelical leader and a super family 00:58:01.349 --> 00:58:04.550 values. He'll still say family value stuff because 00:58:04.550 --> 00:58:06.650 he's Republican, but he's not the champion 00:58:06.650 --> 00:58:08.909 of the super family 00:58:08.909 --> 00:58:10.670 organization where you gotta be super Christian 00:58:10.670 --> 00:58:12.789 all the time and all of that kind of stuff. And 00:58:12.789 --> 00:58:15.230 so from that standpoint, it's like you're painting 00:58:15.230 --> 00:58:17.389 the Republican Party as the party of family values. 00:58:17.389 --> 00:58:20.230 And thus anybody who's a Republican Party now 00:58:20.349 --> 00:58:22.869 is a champion for those values. And 00:58:22.869 --> 00:58:24.710 so we need to take them down 00:58:24.710 --> 00:58:27.750 a peg. The problem that we have is like, okay, 00:58:27.750 --> 00:58:30.900 but who's really better? When 00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:33.000 you think about it, Lindsey Graham or somebody 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:35.679 on the left doing the exact same thing. I think 00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.460 that that's the problem that I have. And this 00:58:37.460 --> 00:58:40.420 is where, for me, I'm like, politics is two sides 00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:42.659 of the same coin. Both parties are corrupt. Both 00:58:42.659 --> 00:58:46.719 parties are awful. And at a certain point, let's 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:48.539 just expose all the corruption. I want to expose 00:58:48.539 --> 00:58:50.400 it all. Let's take out the Republicans. 00:58:50.619 --> 00:58:52.699 Let's take out the Democrats. I'm sick of their 00:58:52.699 --> 00:58:55.059 corruption in the bureaucracies and the FBI and 00:58:55.059 --> 00:58:57.780 the DOJ. And I could just go down the laundry 00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:00.440 list of all the horrible things that are going 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.440 on out there. But I did find it interesting though 00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:06.119 that one, I forget, was 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.099 it Tyler or something or other from Turning Point 00:59:08.099 --> 00:59:11.900 USA? Somebody shared the 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.079 documentary and was like, Lindsey 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:15.820 Graham was sleeping with underage 00:59:15.820 --> 00:59:18.699 boys and this and that and hookers and whatever. 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.400 And he shared it from, and this is one 00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.300 of the, it's like the spokesperson of Turning 00:59:23.300 --> 00:59:26.059 Point USA. And they're like, oh, we 00:59:26.059 --> 00:59:27.639 all knew this. This isn't a big deal. And I'm 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.230 like, so you knew that he was sleeping with underage 00:59:30.230 --> 00:59:31.789 boys and hookers. And you're not going to be 00:59:31.789 --> 00:59:33.650 like, somebody should probably call the cops 00:59:33.650 --> 00:59:36.349 on this guy. Like, nobody was like, that's 00:59:36.349 --> 00:59:38.469 my thing is like, I think that's it. Yeah. That's 00:59:38.469 -->

00:59:41.650 very illegal and very wrong. Very. And so for 00:59:41.650 --> 00:59:44.070 me, I'm looking at this like, okay, we all had 00:59:44.070 --> 00:59:47.269 a hunch and we all knew that Lindsey Graham was 00:59:47.269 --> 00:59:50.650 secretly closeted. Like, that's couldn't prove 00:59:50.650 --> 00:59:53.769 anything. Right. Right. But don't share 00:59:53.769 --> 00:59:55.929 the video that's talking about hookers and 00:59:55.929 --> 00:59:58.960 underage boys and then be like, yeah, 00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:00.760 we all knew this kind of a thing was happening. 01:00:00.820 --> 01:00:02.960 This isn't a shocker. It's like this should be 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.800 a shocker or else why didn't you call the cops? 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:07.780 You know what I mean? Well, no, I mean, I do 01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:10.159 know what you mean. I feel like that is a huge 01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:12.539 thing. Right. Like, you talk about 01:00:12.539 --> 01:00:14.320 all the people going out in D.C. for drinks 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.599 and hitting the bar and behaving badly. And that 01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.019 is definitely a bipartisan thing. And 01:00:21.019 --> 01:00:23.360 I mean, I always kind of wonder, it's like in England whenever you find an MP 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.159 hanging from the ceiling of a dungeon with a 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:30.619 ball gag in his mouth, it's usually a Tory, 01:00:30.619 --> 01:00:33.400 not a Labor Party person. And it's like D.C.'s 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.820 a very buttoned-up place even for Democrats, right? 01:00:35.820 --> 01:00:38.400 They're uptight. They dress like 01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:40.619 it's the place where 01:00:40.619 --> 01:00:43.639 Laura Ashley never went away. It's 01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:46.219 just, it's seemingly, and people like 01:00:46.219 --> 01:00:49.320 that tend to be repressed. People tend to have 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.829 dirty secrets. Right. I think if Lindsey Graham 01:00:52.829 --> 01:00:55.190 had been a liberal Democrat, he could have lived 01:00:55.190 --> 01:00:57.150 as an out gay 01:00:57.150 --> 01:00:59.670 man and it would have been fine and nothing would 01:00:59.670 --> 01:01:02.650 have happened and whatever. We're at the end 01:01:02.650 --> 01:01:05.710 of the hour, so we got you for that 01:01:05.710 --> 01:01:08.170 hour and really appreciate it, and please come 01:01:08.170 --> 01:01:10.610 back soon. Oh yeah, definitely would love to. Again, 01:01:10.610 --> 01:01:12.610 I always enjoy chatting with you and talking 01:01:12.610 --> 01:01:14.630 and all that kind of stuff, and especially 01:01:14.630 --> 01:01:16.750 a lot of these conversations are just, it's 01:01:16.750 --> 01:01:19.610 fascinating because I feel like it's 01:01:19.610 --> 01:01:22.139 nice to actually have conversations that aren't 01:01:22.139 --> 01:01:25.599 just two-party politics all the time. It's just 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:26.940 like, what are the issues? Let's deal with them. 01:01:27.340 --> 01:01:30.360 Both parties do suck on that part. We're definitely 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:32.739 in full agreement about that. Thanks a lot, Jeff. 01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:34.679 Really appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:42.889 it. Okay. And that was Jeff Dornick, CEO of Pickaxe. 01:01:43.190 --> 01:01:45.849 Jeff, if you're just joining the show, Jamarl 01:01:45.849 --> 01:01:48.849 is out this week. I'm not really sure what day. 01:01:48.949 --> 01:01:50.630 Robby, what day is he coming back? Is he back 01:01:50.630 --> 01:01:55.380 Friday? I have no idea. His schedule is definitely 01:01:55.380 --> 01:01:59.099 open for interpretation. So it could be Friday. 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.440 It could be next Monday. It could be the, I have 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:06.070 no idea. All right. Well, and one thing that 01:02:06.070 --> 01:02:09.389 the chat over on Telegram, I don't know where, 01:02:09.409 --> 01:02:11.630 I don't know which chats is able to see, but 01:02:11.630 --> 01:02:14.230 much of them are just spinning. So a lot of the 01:02:14.230 --> 01:02:15.750 questions I've been submitting, I don't think 01:02:15.750 --> 01:02:17.610 you can actually see them. So whenever you're 01:02:17.610 --> 01:02:19.030 ready, let me know. And I'll start reading the 01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:21.519 questions off to you. Oh, okay. They're spinning. 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:23.920 What do you mean spinning? I'll just have the 01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.260 spit, the spinning wheel of death. Like, 01:02:27.260 --> 01:02:30.139 Telegram is trying to upload them and but they're 01:02:30.139 --> 01:02:33.219 just okay. Yeah, there's been the internet 01:02:33.219 --> 01:02:36.539 the internet's been acting squirrelly for a better part of a week due to this 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.000 PHP problem, which I know you're familiar with. 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.460 So yeah, the whole global internet has been 01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:49.070 acting very strange, and if you've been noticing 01:02:49.070 --> 01:02:53.730 AI working slow or whatever, that might be why. 01:02:54.110 --> 01:02:55.949 Look at what happened with us on the Bible study 01:02:55.949 --> 01:02:59.469 on Friday. The atheist had to keep the needle 01:02:59.469 --> 01:03:01.909 moving on a Bible study podcast for a solid six 01:03:01.909 --> 01:03:05.329 or seven minutes, which is amazing. Yeah, well, 01:03:05.469 --> 01:03:09.409 I did the least bad I was capable of doing. I 01:03:09.409 --> 01:03:12.050 hope I wasn't too terrible. All right, if you're 01:03:12.050 --> 01:03:13.989 just joining us, this is the second hour of the 01:03:13.989 --> 01:03:18.539 program. Jamarl is out, probably through Thursday. 01:03:18.679 --> 01:03:21.340 He had told us he wanted four days off, but when 01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:23.800 we get more guidance from Jamarl, we'll let you 01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:26.599 know when he's coming back. I'm assuming

Friday, 01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:29.659 but it could be earlier, it could be later. And 01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:33.519 we just had Jeff Dornick, CEO of Pickaxe, fill 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:37.000 in. Jeff might be back Wednesday to do the same 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.420 thing. So let us know about that, Robby. Robby 01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:44.000 is going to sit in the Jamarl seat for the second 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.820 hour. This is also the Q&A part of the show. 01:03:47.380 --> 01:03:50.840 So if you have a question, please like, follow, 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:53.099 and share, and please post that question in the 01:03:53.099 --> 01:03:55.820 live chat in the 10 o'clock hour Eastern time 01:03:55.820 --> 01:03:59.119 on this Monday, October 26th. If you're watching 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.119 later, watch live if you want to be 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:03.639 able to ask questions. You can also send us an 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:07.340 email to ask us questions or leave a voicemail 01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:10.199 even, and we can even play it at deprogrampodcast 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:17.289 at gmail.com. Okay. Enough of that. Okay, so 01:04:17.289 --> 01:04:19.570 do you have any thoughts about the Lindsey Graham 01:04:19.570 --> 01:04:22.630 thing before we move on? I think that the fact 01:04:22.630 --> 01:04:25.329 that he was a sword swallower is a non sequitur. 01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.969 The fact is that he was a disgusting, warmongering, 01:04:28.969 --> 01:04:32.610 bloodthirsty goblin who is roasting in hell right 01:04:32.610 --> 01:04:35.829 now is outstanding. And I think that's something 01:04:35.829 --> 01:04:37.590 that the people on the left and the right can 01:04:37.590 --> 01:04:40.969 agree. Hell was created for people just like 01:04:40.969 --> 01:04:45.289 hell. I really hope times like this 01:04:45.289 --> 01:04:48.829 I really hope hell exists. Okay, it's real. All 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.800 right, let's have some. Oh, I think I see 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.840 all the questions coming up. Start slowly. Okay, 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.059 here we go. Success. They came up. All right, let's 01:04:58.059 --> 01:05:01.199 see what questions we have. All right. 01:05:03.230 --> 01:05:05.349 It's like the first one will be the one from 01:05:05.349 --> 01:05:08.110 Philip Blair about blood libel. Did you see that 01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:12.329 one? All right. I got you. Okay. I didn't see 01:05:12.329 --> 01:05:14.349 the grocery store ad, but I found that AIPAC ad 01:05:14.349 --> 01:05:17.369 that we played. And it takes a lot to really 01:05:17.369 --> 01:05:19.969 honestly make. No, I get pissed off about things. 01:05:20.030 --> 01:05:22.769 But as far as making me mad, it takes a lot for 01:05:22.769 --> 01:05:25.010 political ad to make me mad. That AIPAC ad pissed 01:05:25.010 --> 01:05:28.800 me off. Well, what pissed you off about it? Just 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.239 the gall. Why Israel matters to America? Why? 01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.079 Why America needs this little pissant, racist, 01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:39.460 disgusting country on the eastern bank of the 01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:41.780 Mediterranean that contributes absolutely nothing. 01:05:42.019 --> 01:05:44.760 It's like it's a leech. It's hilarious. They 01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.960 claim that they provide vital 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:51.030 intelligence. It's like. Be serious. We have 01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:54.829 330 million people. They don't even have 10 million 01:05:54.829 --> 01:05:57.650 people. I mean, seriously, this would be like 01:05:57.650 --> 01:06:01.510 why Liechtenstein matters to America. Without 01:06:01.510 --> 01:06:07.329 Liechtenstein, America could die. If that's true, 01:06:07.510 --> 01:06:13.119 we deserve to die. We're too weak to live. Listen, 01:06:13.219 --> 01:06:15.420 in fairness, Liechtenstein is the world's largest 01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:18.989 producer of false teeth. You've got to have that. 01:06:19.030 --> 01:06:21.489 At least they produce something of value. What 01:06:21.489 --> 01:06:24.829 exactly of value does Israel produce? Well, they 01:06:24.829 --> 01:06:27.769 used to be known for their tech sector, right? 01:06:27.929 --> 01:06:31.090 Like Waze was an Israeli company before Google 01:06:31.090 --> 01:06:36.659 bought it. But I mean, that's because these corporations 01:06:36.659 --> 01:06:39.019 are all multinational. People keep saying, well, 01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:41.099 Google is an American company. No, it's not. 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:46.030 It's a multinational company. I don't even know 01:06:46.030 --> 01:06:48.409 what that even means anymore. So just because 01:06:48.409 --> 01:06:52.829 your corporate headquarters is in Seattle or 01:06:52.869 --> 01:06:54.750 in Tel Aviv doesn't mean that you're going to 01:06:54.750 --> 01:06:57.449 represent the interests of the place of which 01:06:57.449 --> 01:07:02.300 you're based in. Right, right. So let's catch 01:07:02.300 --> 01:07:05.739 up on the questions. Keep them coming. Philip 01:07:05.739 --> 01:07:09.000 Blair, average classroom size in Cuba is 8 to 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.239 10 students per one teacher. Average classroom 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.159 size in California is 24 to 27 students per one 01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.650 teacher. Cubans don't want our overcrowded, broken 01:07:17.650 --> 01:07:22.769 schools. Plurry Paul, maybe someone will have 01:07:22.769 --> 01:07:25.510 some balls in this next batch of House reps. 01:07:25.769 --> 01:07:28.050 Don't always agree with Massey, but props to 01:07:28.050 --> 01:07:35.300 him for finding ways. Wus Kaddafi, America First 01:07:35.300 --> 01:07:39.139 is like America struggling compared to the rest 01:07:39.139 --> 01:07:41.639 of the world. America First is probably why most 01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.960 of the world hates Americans. I don't think that's 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.940 true. I think if

Americans focused more inward, 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.280 the rest of the world would like us better, actually. 01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:53.559 Plurry Paul, no more Christmas would rock. Fuck 01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.079 those corporations who depend upon it for their 01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:01.070 revenue. I actually agree with that, by the way. 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.980 Christmas is too commercialized. Yeah, I would 01:08:04.980 --> 01:08:09.360 think you would agree with that. Cameron Bryan, 01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.780 I was deceived and betrayed by Trump. Now I'm 01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:15.420 100% MAGA dissident and reading Marx, Lenin, 01:08:15.460 --> 01:08:18.420 Ho Chi Minh, and Mao. Don't forget Ted Rall. 01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:22.319 Let's see. Okay, question for me from Philip. 01:08:22.539 --> 01:08:25.020 How is it that different from Strom Thurmond 01:08:25.020 --> 01:08:27.279 being a segregationist while the mother of his 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:29.380 child is a Black woman? I think it's exactly 01:08:29.380 --> 01:08:32.529 the same thing. I mean, he, that was 01:08:32.529 --> 01:08:36.170 the hypocrisy. It's like if Strom Thurmond had, 01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:38.670 he had a mixed-race child with a Black 01:08:38.670 --> 01:08:43.369 woman, and if he had been not a virulent 01:08:43.369 --> 01:08:47.489 racist and segregationist in his public 01:08:47.489 --> 01:08:50.909 politics as opposed to in his private life, there 01:08:50.909 --> 01:08:52.949 would have been nothing there to report. Again, 01:08:52.949 --> 01:08:55.529 as with Lindsey Graham, it was an open secret, 01:08:55.529 --> 01:08:57.989 and official Washington, everyone knew and everyone 01:08:57.989 --> 01:09:00.920 covered up for Strom Thurmond. But I think it's 01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:04.500 exactly the same. It's disgusting. 01:09:04.500 --> 01:09:10.109 Yeah, agreed. Juan Don, did you see Trump at a rally 01:09:10.109 --> 01:09:12.210 a few days ago boasting about the poverty rate 01:09:12.210 --> 01:09:14.449 for different groups of people? He said something 01:09:14.449 --> 01:09:16.850 like the numbers are the highest it's ever been. 01:09:16.850 --> 01:09:21.989 It's great. I did not see that, but that does not 01:09:21.989 --> 01:09:28.239 sound impossible. Okay, please, we need your 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.800 support, guys. We haven't seen a single dollar 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.300 in this entire show. And I don't know why people 01:09:34.300 --> 01:09:37.680 are just not donating. I know the economy is 01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:40.439 bad, but if you can afford to it to support the 01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.000 show and you like the show and you want the show 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.359 to keep going, don't be surprised if it goes 01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:46.960 away one day because we don't have any money. 01:09:48.229 --> 01:09:51.829 Please go ahead and consider subscribing. In 01:09:51.829 --> 01:09:53.970 fact, don't consider subscribing.

Just subscribe. 01:09:54.289 --> 01:09:57.609 $5 a month supports the show. $10 a month gets 01:09:57.609 --> 01:09:59.630 you a closing credit at the end of the show. 01:09:59.689 --> 01:10:02.850 And $20 gets you exclusive content. In fact, 01:10:02.850 --> 01:10:05.630 the exclusive content for this month, we're currently 01:10:05.630 --> 01:10:08.510 working on a workout with Trent. Probably got 01:10:08.510 --> 01:10:11.210 to wait for Jamarl to come back before we do that. 01:10:11.750 --> 01:10:16.170 But we know we owe you an exclusive show for 01:10:16.170 --> 01:10:19.310 the month of October. So that's going to be coming 01:10:19.310 --> 01:10:23.399 up either this week or next week. All right. Here. 01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:27.260 And PhD Nick Rivera says, Strom was a racist, 01:10:27.300 --> 01:10:30.979 but he was a good father. Yeah, that's true. 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.319 Apparently he reportedly was a good father. Very 01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:38.420 strange. It makes me wonder if he was 01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:42.340 even really, truly a racist in his real personal 01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:45.300 life. It was just a posture that he did for work. 01:10:45.899 --> 01:10:51.439 Well, I mean. Does it matter? What does the term 01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:56.199 even mean? I mean, it's the word race. It's kind 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.319 of like anti-Semite and racist. Those two words 01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.939 have been used so much that they've lost all 01:11:02.939 --> 01:11:05.600 meaning. It's kind of like whacking a pinata. 01:11:06.250 --> 01:11:11.210 It's overused. What the word racist means now 01:11:11.210 --> 01:11:12.670 probably didn't mean the same thing it meant 01:11:12.670 --> 01:11:15.170 when you were a kid, Ted. I mean, who the hell 01:11:15.170 --> 01:11:18.579 knows? Speaking of Ted, I've got some breaking 01:11:18.579 --> 01:11:21.180 news for y'all. In the Montana congressional 01:11:21.180 --> 01:11:26.420 race, there is a single vote that is being mailed 01:11:26.420 --> 01:11:29.720 out today. Ted Rall is now officially a candidate 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:38.050 for District 1 in Montana. In the extremely unlikely 01:11:38.050 --> 01:11:41.550 chance that I am to prevail and become a duly 01:11:41.550 --> 01:11:44.010 elected representative for the first district 01:11:44.010 --> 01:11:47.449 of the state of Montana. Would I be disqualified 01:11:47.449 --> 01:11:50.710 because of lack of residency? Probably, right? 01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:55.229 Who knows? I believe so. But that's okay because 01:11:55.229 --> 01:11:59.270 it seems unlikely. Although, hey, if 01:11:59.270 --> 01:12:04.550 the fix is in. Well, I mean, the odds are that 01:12:04.550 --> 01:12:08.409 You'll only get one vote. I would think so. What 01:12:08.409 --> 01:12:11.699 about Kizzy? I can get Kizzy to vote for you. 01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:16.029 Okay, there you go. Yeah, my votes 01:12:16.029 --> 01:12:18.670 just increased by 100 percent.

Yeah, it did. No, 01:12:18.670 --> 01:12:21.510 unfortunately Thomas doesn't turn 18 until next 01:12:21.510 --> 01:12:24.050 year so he can't legally. Well, he registers 01:12:24.050 --> 01:12:29.229 a Democrat then vote. I guess there he goes. Right, 01:12:29.229 --> 01:12:32.510 is he still angry at me for, well, 01:12:32.510 --> 01:12:34.729 I don't know if he was angry at me just for telling 01:12:34.729 --> 01:12:37.970 him not to join the Marines. He's angry at 01:12:37.970 --> 01:12:40.819 both of us about that, but he'll get over it. Okay, 01:12:40.819 --> 01:12:43.609 well I'll tell them it's from love though. That's 01:12:43.609 --> 01:12:45.449 what I told him. I said the only reason that we 01:12:45.449 --> 01:12:46.949 even brought that up is because we both love 01:12:46.949 --> 01:12:49.659 him and we care about him. Yeah, that's exactly 01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:51.640 it. We're not trying to humiliate him 01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:55.880 or anything. All right, so let's talk 01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.859 about the elections and we'll talk about whatever 01:12:58.859 --> 01:13:01.539 else everybody else wants to talk about. So if 01:13:01.539 --> 01:13:03.840 you have questions. Oh, I guess do you want to 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:05.920 throw in? Nobody takes us up on this so 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.260 the phone calls. Nobody ever calls. 01:13:08.260 --> 01:13:10.399 If people want to call, they can put in the chat 01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.760 that they want to call, then we will open. 100 01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.560 if somebody wants to call 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:17.939 in, I'll turn on. I'm just going to turn on. You 01:13:17.939 --> 01:13:20.539 said sit there for no reason at all. Yeah, there's 01:13:20.539 --> 01:13:24.159 no point. So be correct, be courageous. If 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.420 you want to come on and talk to 01:13:26.420 --> 01:13:30.020 Ted live, I'll click the button. What's 01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:33.000 this new thing? Do you see this on the upper right 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.100 hand corner of the Rumble screen? Run ad now. 01:13:36.100 --> 01:13:41.899 Yes. Do you remember when we were doing the ad 01:13:41.899 --> 01:13:45.439 reads? Yeah, it was still good. You can actually 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.640 just plug them in where they will run automatically 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:52.239 without you having to go in and read it yourself. 01:13:52.970 --> 01:13:56.949 That just went live yesterday. Let's see what 01:13:56.949 --> 01:14:00.229 happens if you do this. It's sort of the top 01:14:00.229 --> 01:14:03.909 of the hour. Let's see. At launch, mid-roll 01:14:03.909 --> 01:14:09.420 ads run for 30 seconds. Okay. I don't see any 01:14:09.420 --> 01:14:12.920 ads underneath it. You have to build it. You 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:16.420 have to actually build the ad. Oh, really? Okay. 01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:20.279 And there's an ad for Keat. What is that? No 01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:27.579 idea. Keat is, what is it? Oh, it's encryption 01:14:27.579 --> 01:14:33.380 technology. Huh. Okay. Yeah, they're not paying 01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:35.659 enough. Keat's not paying enough to read their 01:14:35.659 --> 01:14:41.060 ad. So sorry, guys. Okay. And there's 01:14:41.060 --> 01:14:43.619 Patriot Firearms. They don't pay enough either. 01:14:43.819 --> 01:14:48.279 Okay. So let's go back. All right. Let's talk 01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:52.300 about the Brazilian elections. So Lula, who's 01:14:52.300 --> 01:14:56.739 the leftist, he's 80 years old. He just was reelected 01:14:56.739 --> 01:15:00.300 to a fourth term. He won 51.8% of the vote. 01:15:00.539 --> 01:15:03.760 He was expected by many to lose. This was considered 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.739 a surprise. This is the first time that anyone 01:15:09.739 --> 01:15:13.720 to overcome a loss in the first round. This is 01:15:13.720 --> 01:15:17.439 a two-round system like France has, and it's 01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:20.039 the first time since 1989 that a presidential 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:25.199 candidate came in second in the first round and 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.880 then prevailed in the second round. His opponent, 01:15:29.020 --> 01:15:32.760 Flavio Bolsonaro, of course, son of the right 01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:36.560 -wing Bolsonaro, is disputing the results. 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:40.699 He says he's calling because the government, 01:15:40.699 --> 01:15:42.939 the Lula government, extended the voting hours 01:15:42.939 --> 01:15:46.100 by two additional hours supposedly due to 01:15:46.100 --> 01:15:48.880 terrible traffic, which look in Rio de Janeiro 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.779 they are famous for having. I've never been but 01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:54.340 the traffic is supposed to be absolutely horrendous. 01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:58.760 And but this is also his father 01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:03.439 used to constantly disagree and refuse to 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.760 accept that he had lost. So this is kind of like 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:09.340 the same old same old. But does this, well here 01:16:09.340 --> 01:16:13.399 well you're missing something here. So Lula 01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:18.500 appointed his personal attorney. Whatever, he appointed 01:16:18.500 --> 01:16:22.140 his personal attorney to handle 01:16:22.140 --> 01:16:25.640 this on the Supreme Court. That on its 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:31.659 face is. What do you mean handle it? Well, okay, 01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:35.140 so he appointed his personal attorney to the 01:16:35.140 --> 01:16:39.000 Brazilian Supreme Court. He then requested, he 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:41.560 being Lula, requested that his friend extend 01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:46.109 voting hours for two hours to his personal attorney, 01:16:46.250 --> 01:16:49.229 who now has a vested interest in his client winning 01:16:49.229 --> 01:16:54.670 the presidency. That is a conflict of 01:16:54.670 --> 01:16:57.109 interest of the highest order. That sounds

totally 01:16:57.109 --> 01:17:01.880 not corrupt at all. Of course not. But that's 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:04.760 the case though because are you on, is the case that Lula going to make is 01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:06.699 that only his voters were impacted by the bad 01:17:06.699 --> 01:17:08.840 traffic at Sao Paulo and Rio. Of course not. They 01:17:13.060 --> 01:17:16.060 were stuffing ballots. Everyone knows 01:17:16.060 --> 01:17:19.079 that traffic only affects members of one party 01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:22.470 at any given time. Of course, that's why there's 01:17:22.470 --> 01:17:24.289 those some. Every now and then you'll hear 01:17:24.289 --> 01:17:28.149 oh my God, the chick in Chicago. You know, on the 01:17:28.149 --> 01:17:30.550 Ryan Expressway, there was a serious Democrat 01:17:30.550 --> 01:17:33.569 backup. Sometimes you'll hear, outside JFK Airport, Republicans were backed 01:17:38.130 --> 01:17:41.279 up. That's a thing. Yeah, of course. 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:45.000 But it only ever affects your voters. So, of 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.600 course, what you're going to do. Ted, 01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.100 you've got to admit that this even makes Chicago 01:17:51.100 --> 01:17:54.869 politics look honest. Well, the idea that Brazil... 01:17:54.869 --> 01:17:58.029 It is bad. The idea that Brazil would 01:17:58.029 --> 01:18:01.270 have corruption does not surprise me. Let me 01:18:01.270 --> 01:18:04.270 tell you a personal story, as I do so often. 01:18:04.670 --> 01:18:08.270 So back in the 80s, as you know, I worked for 01:18:08.270 --> 01:18:10.909 a Japanese bank. One of our big customers was 01:18:10.909 --> 01:18:14.130 called Albras. That's the state aluminum company 01:18:14.130 --> 01:18:16.680 of Brazil. I don't know if it still exists. But 01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.579 basically, they controlled the entire aluminum 01:18:19.579 --> 01:18:26.279 mining and industry of Brazil, much of which 01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:30.819 was in the Amazon basin. Anyway, they were one 01:18:30.819 --> 01:18:35.039 of a few clients that we had where previous loan 01:18:35.039 --> 01:18:37.439 officers had sent them hundreds of millions of 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.100 dollars and never gotten a signed loan agreement. 01:18:40.380 --> 01:18:42.979 And every now and then, the Albras executives 01:18:42.979 --> 01:18:48.000 would fly into New York and basically go visit 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.340 prostitutes and go drinking on the taxpayer's 01:18:51.340 --> 01:18:54.560 dollar, or in this case, their taxpayer's cruzeros. 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:59.529 And they'd be partying like madmen. And they 01:18:59.529 --> 01:19:02.090 were supposedly there to negotiate the loan agreement 01:19:02.090 --> 01:19:04.069 after the money that they'd already received. 01:19:04.250 --> 01:19:07.590 It's very fucked up. And they were never around. 01:19:07.750 --> 01:19:10.930 And my boss was always, call up 01:19:10.930 --> 01:19:14.189 this bordello that Henry Kissinger goes to and 01:19:14.189 --> 01:19:16.310 see if they have any space for our friends and 01:19:16.310 --> 01:19:19.229 be good hosts. And I'd be like these guys, they're 01:19:19.229 --> 01:19:22.050 corrupt, who are leeching money out of 01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:25.069 the Brazilian economy. This was during the 01:19:25.069 --> 01:19:28.670 time, during the same exact time that countries 01:19:28.670 --> 01:19:31.609 including Brazil were demanding debt forgiveness 01:19:31.609 --> 01:19:34.189 because of developing world debt forgiveness. 01:19:34.189 --> 01:19:36.850 Oh, we can't afford to pay back our debts. 01:19:36.850 --> 01:19:38.689 Meanwhile, they're completely 01:19:38.689 --> 01:19:41.750 corrupt anyway. These guys, I remember one time 01:19:41.750 --> 01:19:44.489 I get called into a conference room by my boss 01:19:44.489 --> 01:19:47.050 where the Albras guys are there. They flew on 01:19:47.050 --> 01:19:49.590 diplomatic passports so they don't get searched 01:19:49.590 --> 01:19:51.829 at the airport. They show up and they're using 01:19:51.829 --> 01:19:56.090 X-Acto blades to rip open the linings of their 01:19:56.090 --> 01:19:58.489 suit jacket, their cheap suit jackets, which 01:19:58.489 --> 01:20:01.789 are packed with cash. And he's, 01:20:01.909 --> 01:20:04.569 oh, can you tell these guys where to exchange? 01:20:04.710 --> 01:20:06.510 I'm not going to get into too much detail beyond 01:20:06.510 --> 01:20:09.779 this. Suffice to say, can you tell 01:20:09.779 --> 01:20:12.899 them where they can turn these cruzeros into 01:20:12.899 --> 01:20:16.899 US dollars in a way that no government may know 01:20:16.899 --> 01:20:20.399 that it happened. And it was like this 01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:25.590 was a routine matter. They were crazy 01:20:25.590 --> 01:20:27.630 and I remember during the whole debt third world 01:20:27.630 --> 01:20:31.260 debt thing they were threatening to default on 01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:36.289 one of our big loans and I was like, no, we will 01:20:36.289 --> 01:20:39.430 fucking go in there. We will take over a public 01:20:39.430 --> 01:20:43.609 park in Rio. We will not tolerate it. It's 01:20:43.609 --> 01:20:47.649 zero tolerance for default. They were just, 01:20:47.710 --> 01:20:50.149 but we're third world. It's, you're corrupt. 01:20:50.529 --> 01:20:54.609 You're not poor. You're corrupt. Brazil is a 01:20:54.609 --> 01:20:58.590 rich country. It's a very rich country with lots 01:20:58.590 --> 01:21:01.850 of natural resources and a vibrant economy. It's 01:21:01.850 --> 01:21:04.329 you're just corrupt. No, of course. And 01:21:04.329 --> 01:21:06.270 I guess that's the point that I'm making. 01:21:06.310 --> 01:21:12.170 If you pretend that you are a democracy, let's 01:21:12.170 --> 01:21:14.390 just. And you lived in Brazil, right? I did. 01:21:14.590 --> 01:21:16.989 So let's just pretend. Did you witness any corruption 01:21:16.989 --> 01:21:19.430 while you

were there? Oh, all the time. People 01:21:19.430 --> 01:21:22.529 bribing cops and things. I once saw a military 01:21:22.529 --> 01:21:24.170 policeman shoot some dude right there on the 01:21:24.170 --> 01:21:25.930 beach. It blew his brains out right there on 01:21:25.930 --> 01:21:31.329 the beach. It was outstanding. It was just wild. 01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:37.720 Just how it was. The cost of living was outstanding. 01:21:39.399 --> 01:21:47.520 I loved it. Alas, I am here. Well, 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:53.119 it is what it is. Okay, so let's, okay, Kilroy, 01:21:53.140 --> 01:21:55.979 thanks very much for the $5 donation. We need 01:21:55.979 --> 01:21:59.000 more of you guys. More Kilroys, please. Be like 01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.479 Kilroy. Right-wing pundits, he says, are using 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:05.680 France's riots as a scare tactic to vote right. 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:09.199 That's true. Also saw a post saying France didn't 01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.560 honor Israel and is now paying for it. First 01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:16.239 of all, I would say France honored Israel a lot 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.680 more than it ought to have. It's certainly been 01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:21.720 in bed with the Israelis for a long time. But 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.220 we know that the Israelis were behind the African 01:22:25.220 --> 01:22:28.539 storming of their Spanish enclaves. And the Israelis 01:22:28.539 --> 01:22:32.039 considered it a punishment to Spain 01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:34.699 when they were, when the Moroccan government just 01:22:34.699 --> 01:22:39.130 opened up the gates and said, here you go. Here's 01:22:39.130 --> 01:22:43.880 your ticket to Spain. Dear Spain, to you from 01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:48.779 Israel with love. It would not surprise me. And 01:22:48.779 --> 01:22:51.079 Kilroy's follow up with a two dollar donation. 01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:53.979 Could riots in France be stirred up by Israel? 01:22:54.060 --> 01:22:56.479 I don't think that's what's happening. I think 01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:58.279 that the French don't need any 01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:01.159 help writing or protesting. They're good 01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:04.319 at it themselves and this is definitely 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:07.579 organic and authentic in every way. 01:23:07.579 --> 01:23:10.439 I don't have dark suspicions in that respect 01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.520 although certainly we know there are provocateurs 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.920 who are trying to make the protesters look worse 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:21.060 by turning peaceful protests into riots 01:23:21.060 --> 01:23:25.500 and so on. But I guess the question here is, 01:23:25.579 --> 01:23:28.479 yeah, I love the whole idea 01:23:28.479 --> 01:23:31.640 that I'm not really sure exactly. Maybe you can 01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.300 help me as the resident conservative here, Robby, 01:23:34.359 --> 01:23:38.020 to tell me how exactly what's the logic of if 01:23:38.020 --> 01:23:41.500 you vote Democratic, the United States 01:23:41.500 --> 01:23:44.159 will end up looking like France. Democrats 01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.180 have been in power pretty recently. Democrats 01:23:47.180 --> 01:23:50.720 were in power two years ago in the United 01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:53.439 States and we didn't have riots. They've been 01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:56.520 in, Democrats have been in power many times and 01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:59.920 we didn't have riots. How is that, how does 01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:02.300 that even make any sense? It doesn't. That's one 01:24:02.300 --> 01:24:04.020 of the reasons why Republicans are going to get 01:24:04.020 --> 01:24:06.079 destroyed next month and I'm looking forward 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.680 to it. Let's be honest, it was the 01:24:10.930 --> 01:24:14.750 hero, the messiah of the Republican Party, 01:24:14.750 --> 01:24:18.989 Ronald Reagan who granted the first mass amnesty. 01:24:20.010 --> 01:24:22.090 But they promised that the borders would be closed. 01:24:22.229 --> 01:24:24.569 They were never closed. And it's been under both 01:24:24.569 --> 01:24:28.050 Republican and Democrat administrations that 01:24:28.050 --> 01:24:30.170 the invasion of the United States has continued 01:24:30.170 --> 01:24:35.369 unabated my entire lifetime. No one's buying 01:24:35.369 --> 01:24:38.430 anymore. No one's buying the lie. And now what's 01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:40.949 happening is that because they've done too much 01:24:40.949 --> 01:24:44.590 of it. So between immigration and between inflation. 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.840 The cost of living is outpaced wages. And now 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.739 people just all across the political divide are 01:24:51.739 --> 01:24:53.960 able to look around and say, this is not what 01:24:53.960 --> 01:25:01.109 we voted for. This is wrong. Yeah. Yeah. It's 01:25:01.109 --> 01:25:05.350 Vivek, okay? So you have this dude who runs 01:25:05.350 --> 01:25:11.970 this horrible ad using his opponent's estranged 01:25:11.970 --> 01:25:15.409 mother who allowed her daughter to get raped. 01:25:16.539 --> 01:25:18.960 What was her name? Amy Acton. I could be saying 01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.220 her first name wrong. I know her last name is 01:25:20.220 --> 01:25:24.489 Acton. And then he runs this ad. And then you 01:25:24.489 --> 01:25:28.380 have the likes of Laura Loomer or Larry Loomer, 01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:30.220 depending on if you believe she's actually a 01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.340 woman or not. She could be rolling by crawling 01:25:32.340 --> 01:25:36.140 style. I don't know. Who goes out and tells Republicans, 01:25:36.279 --> 01:25:39.760 if you don't vote for Vivek, then you're a racist. 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:41.300 The reason why you're not voting for him is not 01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:43.739 because he sucks. It's because he's a brown Indian 01:25:43.739 --> 01:25:47.079 Hindu. In which case, I look and say all of the 01:25:47.079 -->

01:25:54.250 above is true. He deserves to lose. We are getting 01:25:54.250 --> 01:26:00.229 a request here from... God, let me... Sorry, 01:26:00.329 --> 01:26:03.970 I'm... No, you're fine. Sorry. Please... 01:26:03.970 --> 01:26:10.729 Okay, this is from James Duan. Please 01:26:10.729 --> 01:26:13.289 do a Patreon subscriber drive. We want you to 01:26:13.289 --> 01:26:15.810 survive in asking subscribers to pay monthly 01:26:15.810 --> 01:26:18.930 empowers us to actually move the needle to ensure 01:26:18.930 --> 01:26:23.029 something we care about survives. So we do have 01:26:23.029 --> 01:26:28.130 a Patreon page. I'm gonna pull that up and 01:26:28.130 --> 01:26:31.789 put that up there. But also can you, Robby, 01:26:31.789 --> 01:26:34.029 can you sort of break through how people, the 01:26:34.029 --> 01:26:37.350 different ways that people can subscribe to 01:26:37.350 --> 01:26:40.270 the show. Sure, yeah. There's 01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:42.670 several different ways. One way if you're watching 01:26:42.670 --> 01:26:46.130 on Rumble which we are still, at least as of 01:26:46.130 --> 01:26:47.850 now, still a member of the Creator Program over 01:26:47.850 --> 01:26:50.590 there. You can subscribe to Rumble during the 01:26:50.590 --> 01:26:55.489 live stream. How are we doing on the chats? Chats? 01:26:56.289 --> 01:26:59.210 It's going to be tight, but what also happens, 01:26:59.329 --> 01:27:00.850 I'll be putting together the premium episode 01:27:00.850 --> 01:27:03.109 and getting more shorts and stuff up today. We 01:27:03.109 --> 01:27:05.489 need unique chats, guys. So if you don't normally 01:27:05.489 --> 01:27:08.970 chat and you're watching on Rumble, please just 01:27:08.970 --> 01:27:10.850 say hi. You don't have to do anything else. But 01:27:10.850 --> 01:27:13.310 right now, we need anybody who has not chatted 01:27:13.310 --> 01:27:18.069 in recent days, months, years to just come in 01:27:18.069 --> 01:27:20.930 and say hi. Yeah, because basically, even though 01:27:20.930 --> 01:27:24.149 Rumble has nuked our pay by 98%, some pay is 01:27:24.149 --> 01:27:27.250 still better than none. So that helps. A poop 01:27:27.250 --> 01:27:30.250 emoji is perfectly fine. On Rumble, you become 01:27:30.250 --> 01:27:33.649 a paid channel subscriber for $5 a month during 01:27:33.649 --> 01:27:38.529 a live stream. On YouTube, you can become a channel 01:27:38.529 --> 01:27:43.550 member. It starts at $5 here on YouTube. And 01:27:43.550 --> 01:27:45.010 then there's different tiers that you're able 01:27:45.010 --> 01:27:50.689 to subscribe to. And then also the Patreon that 01:27:50.689 --> 01:27:52.909 Ted put up, you can go in and become a monthly 01:27:52.909 --> 01:27:59.510 subscriber that way. If you're listening instead 01:27:59.510 --> 01:28:05.069 of watching, it's patreon.com/CW. I don't 01:28:05.069 --> 01:28:08.649 know why. Slash deprogram podcast. That's patreon 01:28:08.649 --> 01:28:13.449 .com slash C

as in Charlie, W as in world, slash 01:28:13.449 --> 01:28:18.930 deprogram podcast. And one thing, 01:28:18.930 --> 01:28:21.270 after YouTube blew up the creator program, 01:28:21.449 --> 01:28:25.689 I want y'all to understand that. I'm putting 01:28:25.689 --> 01:28:28.829 my money where my mouth is literally. I'm doing 01:28:28.829 --> 01:28:33.579 this for free now because the finances are to 01:28:33.579 --> 01:28:39.300 a point that they can't pay me. So if y'all 01:28:39.300 --> 01:28:41.909 want the show to continue, those are 01:28:41.909 --> 01:28:43.750 the three ways that you're able to support. Support 01:28:43.750 --> 01:28:45.970 us on Patreon. You're able to do it directly 01:28:45.970 --> 01:28:48.529 on Rumble for five bucks a month. Or on YouTube, 01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:51.029 you have a tiered list that you're able to go 01:28:51.029 --> 01:28:53.670 through. You get different perks on YouTube based 01:28:54.430 --> 01:28:56.890 on the based on the tier it is that you that 01:28:56.890 --> 01:29:00.090 you do and if you want to support the work 01:29:00.090 --> 01:29:03.090 that I'm doing, hop over to West Glacier Gaming 01:29:03.090 --> 01:29:05.489 over there on YouTube and become a channel subscriber 01:29:05.489 --> 01:29:07.750 that helps me out. That might be able to pay my 01:29:07.750 --> 01:29:11.510 bills too. So that's the reality. It's 01:29:11.510 --> 01:29:17.220 the economics are such that the rulers that 01:29:17.220 --> 01:29:19.539 be are doing their absolute best to starve out 01:29:19.539 --> 01:29:22.569 small independent voices. True. That's what they're 01:29:22.569 --> 01:29:26.029 doing. That is the play. And so for the 01:29:26.029 --> 01:29:28.909 price, podcasting is still sort of wild and crazy. 01:29:29.189 --> 01:29:31.970 And I was just listening to Freakonomics yesterday 01:29:31.970 --> 01:29:34.770 over the weekend. And they're talking about how 01:29:34.770 --> 01:29:38.250 podcasting is gravitating. The next step 01:29:38.250 --> 01:29:40.090 is going to be that it's going to be corporatized 01:29:40.090 --> 01:29:43.810 and they're going to turn it all into, 01:29:43.810 --> 01:29:45.989 sort of perfect to try to professionalize it 01:29:45.989 --> 01:29:48.449 like television. That's what they want to do. 01:29:48.550 --> 01:29:51.489 So the only way individual shows like this can 01:29:51.489 --> 01:29:54.989 survive is if they have a pretty steady viewership 01:29:54.989 --> 01:29:57.850 with a lot of financial support so they don't 01:29:57.850 --> 01:30:01.289 so we can resist that kind of impulse 01:30:01.289 --> 01:30:04.590 to, assuming that we were asked to sell 01:30:04.590 --> 01:30:08.130 out, that we would even be in a position. 01:30:08.130 --> 01:30:11.130 The irony here is nobody, we all value 01:30:11.130 --> 01:30:13.829 our independence. We're too wild and crazy. 01:30:13.829 --> 01:30:16.409 I've been independent my entire life. I've never 01:30:16.409 --> 01:30:19.840 been on staff anywhere. Probably same for you. 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:23.840 And so this is definitely, it's a better 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:25.899 approach. I wouldn't want to do it any other way. 01:30:25.899 --> 01:30:30.779 Yeah. And one thing, no, Jeff Dornick 01:30:30.779 --> 01:30:33.680 the guy who's just on. We are partnering up with 01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:35.539 him on the Freedom First Network. We're 01:30:35.539 --> 01:30:37.760 doing a lot of things. Ted is going to start writing 01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.359 for him. No, professional Manila Chan is going 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:44.600 to be an editor. He's putting together an actual newsroom over there on Pickaxe. So 01:30:47.380 --> 01:30:49.420 there are things that are happening. 01:30:49.420 --> 01:30:51.619 It's just it's harder and harder to be independent 01:30:51.619 --> 01:30:54.880 now without getting in bed with corporate oligarchs. 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.619 And once you do that you lose your voice. They 01:30:57.619 --> 01:31:00.319 control you and that's why we're resisting it. 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.260 That's why we're relying on crowdfunding. And 01:31:03.260 --> 01:31:07.239 Philip asked me how do I pay my bills. I've 01:31:07.310 --> 01:31:10.090 worked for a few different shows producing 01:31:10.090 --> 01:31:13.149 so those so they pay me. But I'm, listen, I'm not 01:31:13.149 --> 01:31:16.789 gonna lie to you. No, losing the game with 01:31:16.789 --> 01:31:19.680 John Karyaku that hurt. Losing the paycheck from 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.699 this show hurts. YouTube blowing up the creator 01:31:23.699 --> 01:31:26.600 program, that hurt too. So the way that I'm able 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:29.859 to pay my bills, quite frankly, is because people 01:31:29.859 --> 01:31:32.100 like y'all are going over there, are going to 01:31:32.100 --> 01:31:34.039 West Glacier Gaming on YouTube and becoming channel 01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:39.159 members. That's how it's working. Honest to God. 01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:43.619 There's nothing fancy about it. If it 01:31:43.619 --> 01:31:45.800 comes to a point where I cannot pay my bills, 01:31:45.939 --> 01:31:49.399 I will have to tell Ted and JT, I'm sorry, I 01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:51.039 can't do this anymore. I have to get myself a 01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:53.779 real job. And after that, who the hell knows? 01:31:55.300 --> 01:31:58.500 I found, by the way, that ad that we were talking 01:31:58.500 --> 01:32:00.140 about with Jeff. Oh, good. I'll throw it up. 01:32:00.579 --> 01:32:03.199 Go ahead and please put it up. And by the way, 01:32:03.220 --> 01:32:05.819 it's hilarious. So this is the comment that this 01:32:05.819 --> 01:32:08.840 is from some Zionist. Unless Abdul El-Sayed 01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:11.020 immediately demands that this campaign ad be 01:32:11.020 --> 01:32:14.079 taken down and unequivocally condemns it and 01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:17.079 its creators, he will be exposed as a vile,

dangerous, 01:32:17.239 --> 01:32:20.760 and divisive anti-Semite. Any of my fellow Democrats 01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.899 who condemn the disgusting Ramaswamy ad in Ohio 01:32:23.899 --> 01:32:26.720 but do not condemn this deserve our unflinching 01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:29.350 condemn. We're seeing a lot of these 01:32:29.369 --> 01:32:35.689 Zyobot kind of posts here. And away we go. All 01:32:35.689 --> 01:32:38.449 right, let's go ahead and play it. All right, 01:32:38.529 --> 01:32:40.430 we're going to throw this puppy right on up here. 01:32:41.449 --> 01:32:44.630 By the way, when you watch it, just think, is 01:32:44.630 --> 01:32:49.210 it anti-Semitic? Think about that. How about 01:32:49.210 --> 01:32:52.090 this? Screw Israel. I'll be anti-Semitic for 01:32:52.090 --> 01:32:56.529 you. Yeah, I know. What about the bananas? Yeah, 01:32:56.550 --> 01:33:01.119 I got them too. Honey. What? You're going to 01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.140 have to put those eggs back. They don't like 01:33:03.140 --> 01:33:06.500 eggs anymore? No, they like eggs. But we have 01:33:06.500 --> 01:33:09.949 to set that $7 aside for killing Palestinians. 01:33:10.949 --> 01:33:13.390 What? Don't we give Israel $4 billion 01:33:13.390 --> 01:33:15.710 a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them 01:33:15.710 --> 01:33:19.850 another $26 billion. Do you know how much that 01:33:19.850 --> 01:33:23.590 is per American taxpayer? No. It's like $161 01:33:23.590 --> 01:33:26.590 per person. Apparently it's costing us a lot 01:33:26.590 --> 01:33:29.680 of money to drop bombs on Gaza. It's terrible. 01:33:31.890 --> 01:33:34.510 Don't they get universal health care, too? Yeah, 01:33:34.510 --> 01:33:38.250 they do. We're paying for that, too, probably. 01:33:38.430 --> 01:33:40.989 Might as well put the bananas back. Why the f*** 01:33:40.989 --> 01:33:45.119 do we have to pay for all this? Don't cuss at 01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:48.819 me. Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what 01:33:48.819 --> 01:33:51.600 Israelis want and so little about what you want? 01:33:51.819 --> 01:33:57.460 Mike Rogers is for they-them. Abdul El-Sayed 01:33:57.460 --> 01:34:07.050 is for you. Pretty good ad. Yeah, I liked it. 01:34:07.340 --> 01:34:09.380 There's nothing anti-Semitic about 01:34:09.380 --> 01:34:13.720 it. It's factual. It's facts. Well, the only fact, 01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.739 the only thing that's wrong is it's not $161 01:34:16.739 --> 01:34:19.399 per person. It's a lot more than that because 01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:23.060 we pay interest on anything we spend, right, because 01:34:23.060 --> 01:34:26.680 we don't. We have a massive national debt. So if 01:34:26.680 --> 01:34:30.020 the US government spends $161, it's $161 01:34:30.020 --> 01:34:33.640 plus compound interest in perpetuity, right? So 01:34:34.270 --> 01:34:36.989 it's really thousands of dollars per person. 01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:41.500 It's crazy because, Ted, me and you have talked 01:34:41.500 --> 01:34:43.300 about this before. Governments really have three 01:34:43.300 --> 01:34:46.560 ways to raise money. The most honest way is through 01:34:46.560 --> 01:34:50.720 taxation. You tax your citizens because governments 01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:55.159 don't produce anything. The second way is by 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.539 creating debt and then monetizing that debt with 01:34:58.539 --> 01:35:02.319 bonds with the promise of paying the borrower 01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.949 back with interest. That's not ideal, 01:35:06.130 --> 01:35:07.550 but it's more honest what we've got now. The 01:35:07.550 --> 01:35:10.210 third way is through just rampant inflation, 01:35:10.510 --> 01:35:12.930 which is what we've got right now, which is they 01:35:12.930 --> 01:35:15.270 just create more and more currency that just 01:35:15.270 --> 01:35:17.689 destroys the value of the money that's in circulation. 01:35:18.270 --> 01:35:20.149 And you're literally at that point borrowing 01:35:20.149 --> 01:35:24.029 from your future, from future generations. That's 01:35:24.029 --> 01:35:28.130 what we're doing. And so this money that we're 01:35:28.130 --> 01:35:32.510 giving to Israel, my grandkids aren't even conceived 01:35:32.510 --> 01:35:37.350 yet, are already in debt. Think about that. Think 01:35:37.350 --> 01:35:40.109 about what I just said for a second. The next 01:35:40.109 --> 01:35:42.250 generation of Americans that have not even been 01:35:42.250 --> 01:35:44.210 conceived, they're not a gleam in their daddy's 01:35:44.210 --> 01:35:49.069 eye, are already in debt. Yeah, that was horrible. 01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:52.079 And that's what's going on here. And there's 01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:54.779 nothing anti-Semitic to point that out. Why 01:35:54.779 --> 01:35:59.659 is it that Europe as a whole deserves a single 01:35:59.659 --> 01:36:03.079 penny of American taxpayer defense? They're a 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:06.890 sovereign nation, supposedly. True. They should 01:36:06.890 --> 01:36:09.949 be able to take care of themselves. Listen, if 01:36:09.949 --> 01:36:12.149 France wants to have a pension system, then it 01:36:12.149 --> 01:36:14.170 needs to decide, does it want a pension system 01:36:14.170 --> 01:36:16.699 or a military? Because you can't have both. Right 01:36:16.699 --> 01:36:18.659 now, the reason why it has both is because the 01:36:18.659 --> 01:36:21.579 American taxpayer is subsidizing the defense 01:36:21.579 --> 01:36:23.920 of Europe collectively. The French don't have 01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:25.239 to worry about the Germans getting uppity and 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:28.920 backhanding them like they want to do every 30 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:33.250 years. That is the reality. It's unpopular but 01:36:33.250 --> 01:36:35.390 that's true. And there's nothing racist or anti 01:36:35.390 --> 01:36:40.270 -Semitic about pointing that fact out. True, true, 01:36:40.689 --> 01:36:43.909 true. We got thanks for

the 01:36:43.909 --> 01:36:47.369 thanks for the donations that are coming in. 01:36:47.369 --> 01:36:50.710 Yeah, thank you Ray. Thanks for the ten dollars 01:36:50.710 --> 01:36:55.689 for the cause. Much appreciated. Still need 01:36:55.689 --> 01:36:58.850 more. We definitely need. To put this into 01:36:58.850 --> 01:37:02.979 perspective, we really should be getting $200 01:37:02.979 --> 01:37:07.159 or $300 per show to make this work. And we're 01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:10.579 definitely not there. Yeah. As people 01:37:10.579 --> 01:37:12.840 subscribe and stuff, listen, it's going to happen, 01:37:12.939 --> 01:37:16.640 I believe. And frankly, if it doesn't, then the 01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:19.500 show doesn't continue. Yeah, that's true. 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:24.300 Is the program worth the cost of a meal at Taco 01:37:24.300 --> 01:37:30.260 Bell? It's a lot safer. You won't get E. coli. 01:37:31.180 --> 01:37:35.579 But you get the colon cleanse at Taco Bell. And 01:37:35.579 --> 01:37:38.060 look, if you don't eat enough, I'll give you 01:37:38.060 --> 01:37:41.289 E. coli. Oh, one thing. I have no idea if this 01:37:41.289 --> 01:37:42.949 is going to happen or not, Ted, but we're just 01:37:42.949 --> 01:37:46.369 going to throw this out there. So we had a little 01:37:46.369 --> 01:37:50.630 bonfire event last night at my church. And my 01:37:50.630 --> 01:37:52.770 pastor started talking to me about whether or 01:37:52.770 --> 01:37:55.609 not, about my stance that Israel is not an exceptional 01:37:55.609 --> 01:37:58.770 nation and that it is somehow held different. 01:37:59.229 --> 01:38:00.850 I don't know if he's going to take me up on this, 01:38:00.909 --> 01:38:03.710 but I challenged him to a debate this Friday 01:38:03.710 --> 01:38:11.659 on my Bible podcast. Can I play too? You 01:38:11.659 --> 01:38:14.600 would be the moderator. Oh good, good, good. I cannot think 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.020 of a better person to be the moderator. So if 01:38:17.020 --> 01:38:21.060 nor can I. So if he accepts it will be yours truly 01:38:21.060 --> 01:38:26.359 versus the pastor. I'll make sure everyone stays 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:30.470 civilized and in line with God. All right. 01:38:30.470 --> 01:38:33.489 Never thought I'd have that. I never have to 01:38:33.489 --> 01:38:37.109 say that. Well hey, I'm still working on getting 01:38:37.109 --> 01:38:40.300 you saved. All right, well that's a heavy 01:38:40.300 --> 01:38:44.640 lift. All right, let's talk about. All right, 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.920 so I think so. Okay, big question I have for you 01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:50.779 about Brazil is the pundits are saying that 01:38:50.779 --> 01:38:53.399 this kind of breaks it. There had been 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:56.819 a right-wing wave in Latin America. Could 01:38:56.819 --> 01:39:01.210 this be the beginning of the end of that? Well, 01:39:01.250 --> 01:39:04.119 what has right-wing government got you? And 01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:07.920 a big shout to Evan Kopel over there on YouTube. 01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:09.680 Thank you for becoming a channel member. Thank 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:15.310 you. That's what we need more of. Memberships 01:39:15.310 --> 01:39:21.529 are really the, that's what makes it all work. 01:39:21.609 --> 01:39:24.569 But seriously, to answer your question, what 01:39:25.020 --> 01:39:28.180 has right-wing government or left-wing government 01:39:28.180 --> 01:39:32.970 got anyone anywhere? Europe is left-wing. 01:39:32.970 --> 01:39:35.149 You yourself point out that the French government 01:39:35.149 --> 01:39:38.989 is left-wing. Why are the French people burning 01:39:38.989 --> 01:39:41.289 this, burning the country down because the left 01:39:41.289 --> 01:39:43.050 -wing government doesn't deliver the same way 01:39:43.050 --> 01:39:45.189 that the right-wing government doesn't. Yeah, 01:39:45.409 --> 01:39:47.630 no, that well that's true and that's going to 01:39:47.630 --> 01:39:49.430 be an interesting thing. Right now 01:39:49.430 --> 01:39:52.569 all things being equal, hard to imagine Marine 01:39:52.569 --> 01:39:56.130 Le Pen not winning next year and becoming 01:39:56.130 --> 01:39:58.170 the new president of France. But it's going to 01:39:58.170 --> 01:40:00.750 be interesting to see if she can deliver for 01:40:00.750 --> 01:40:03.989 the French people. Obviously she would 01:40:03.989 --> 01:40:06.569 need coattails. She'd need to be able to control 01:40:06.569 --> 01:40:09.590 parliament by a significant extent. 01:40:09.590 --> 01:40:14.359 But if she does, there's going 01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.500 to be so much pressure on her to impose austerity 01:40:17.500 --> 01:40:20.659 and that's just going to cause more riots. Well, 01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:23.659 why do you have to impose austerity if you can just 01:40:23.659 --> 01:40:27.840 cut off Ukraine and Israel? You could. 01:40:27.859 --> 01:40:30.520 Listen, what I don't understand, and you're the 01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:32.300 French citizen here, so you explain it to me. 01:40:33.069 --> 01:40:37.529 Why is it, and I mean this sincerely, why is 01:40:37.529 --> 01:40:40.670 it that the French people tolerate staying in 01:40:40.670 --> 01:40:43.170 the European Union when the European Union does 01:40:43.170 --> 01:40:46.909 nothing at all for the French people except suck 01:40:46.909 --> 01:40:51.229 out the blood of the state? What's the point? 01:40:51.350 --> 01:40:53.960 What benefit does France get out of it? The only 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.899 thing that they get out of it is it's easy for 01:40:56.899 --> 01:41:00.159 a French citizen to live or work anywhere in 01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:04.060 Europe. They don't have any border controls if 01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:05.659 they want to drive to a neighboring country. 01:41:06.750 --> 01:41:10.649 Those are conveniences. It's convenient. It's 01:41:10.649 --> 01:41:13.409 suicide. Okay, so let me point

this out to you. 01:41:13.609 --> 01:41:16.149 Let's just say that you lived in France. You're 01:41:16.149 --> 01:41:18.930 a French citizen. Let's just assume that you 01:41:18.930 --> 01:41:22.739 were going to go work in Poland. Does Poland 01:41:22.739 --> 01:41:28.010 get your taxes or does France? That's a good 01:41:28.010 --> 01:41:30.869 question. It's the Polish government that does. 01:41:31.130 --> 01:41:33.390 Now, who is it that educated you? It was the 01:41:33.390 --> 01:41:36.369 French electorate that educated you. It was the 01:41:36.369 --> 01:41:38.369 French education system paid for by the French 01:41:38.369 --> 01:41:41.789 taxpayer who educated you. Then you go to some 01:41:41.789 --> 01:41:44.149 other country and you go work for them. You pay 01:41:44.149 --> 01:41:47.250 them taxes. What benefit are you at that point 01:41:47.250 --> 01:41:50.250 to your home country? You're a liability because 01:41:50.250 --> 01:41:53.109 you're still entitled to the pensions, but you're 01:41:53.109 --> 01:41:57.439 not paying into them. It is suicide. Oh, another 01:41:57.439 --> 01:41:59.500 thing is the legacy of World War II and World 01:41:59.500 --> 01:42:03.760 War I. A lot of Europeans, including Frenchmen, 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.920 believe that there's a stronger chance with the 01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:09.899 European integration, there's less chance of 01:42:09.899 --> 01:42:13.819 another war. That's stupid. Because you can't 01:42:13.819 --> 01:42:16.119 pay for it. What you're going to do is that whenever 01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:17.960 nations get desperate, they start doing irrational 01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:20.520 things like starting wars with their neighbors. 01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:30.489 So I'm looking at the, so let's see. Yeah, basically 01:42:30.489 --> 01:42:35.029 France has very mixed views toward the European 01:42:35.029 --> 01:42:42.930 Union. 47% of Frenchmen view the EU unfavorably 01:42:43.670 --> 01:42:48.050 and 52% view it favorably. So it's 50-50. On 01:42:48.050 --> 01:42:51.090 the opposite sides of that, only one other country 01:42:51.090 --> 01:42:54.630 views the EU more unfavorably, and that's Greece. 01:42:55.210 --> 01:42:57.109 Ironic, since they've gotten so much money from 01:42:57.109 --> 01:43:00.970 the EU. And Sweden views it the most unfavorably. 01:43:01.609 --> 01:43:05.970 Sorry, most favorably. 79% in Sweden like it, 01:43:06.050 --> 01:43:08.710 20% are against it. Well, of course it does because 01:43:08.710 --> 01:43:12.770 Sweden is just, they are the Ukraine of 01:43:12.770 --> 01:43:15.010 central Europe. They're sucking out the resources 01:43:15.010 --> 01:43:18.630 for the more productive states. Okay, what is Sweden 01:43:18.630 --> 01:43:23.310 famous for? No-go zones and Malmo and their 01:43:23.310 --> 01:43:28.649 welfare state. Who defends them? It's France, it's 01:43:28.649 --> 01:43:31.810 England, it's the United States. That's the point 01:43:31.810 --> 01:43:34.609 that I'm making. If you're able to outsource your 01:43:34.609 --> 01:43:37.609 collective defense to another group of 01:43:37.609 --> 01:43:41.659 people, then that allows you to have that. That 01:43:41.659 --> 01:43:44.079 allows you to have a big safety net. Chasing 01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:46.619 Blue Dragon claims to have called and thinks 01:43:46.619 --> 01:43:50.119 that he's waiting in the queue. Oh, he, okay, 01:43:50.279 --> 01:43:53.869 he is here. Okay, put him up. Yeah, for some 01:43:53.869 --> 01:43:55.750 reason, Rumble did not notify us that he was 01:43:55.750 --> 01:44:00.350 here. So we're going to pop him on in. Howdy. 01:44:01.130 --> 01:44:05.260 Hello? Hey, Jason. It's Ted Rall and Robby West 01:44:05.260 --> 01:44:08.520 here on DeProgram. You're live. Please say 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:11.229 what you got to say. Say it completely and 01:44:11.229 --> 01:44:14.609 concisely and turn off your sound in the background 01:44:14.609 --> 01:44:16.829 so that you don't have the delay because there 01:44:16.829 --> 01:44:19.489 might be a little bit of an echo. Go ahead. Oh, 01:44:19.489 --> 01:44:22.130 I was just calling and say hello and thank 01:44:22.130 --> 01:44:24.670 you guys for what you do. You guys 01:44:24.670 --> 01:44:27.029 are part of my daily routine and I'll be very 01:44:27.029 --> 01:44:31.300 sad if you guys go away. That's for sure. I've 01:44:31.300 --> 01:44:35.930 just been studying and trying to receive my 01:44:35.930 --> 01:44:38.729 degree in organic chemistry. It's been insane 01:44:38.729 --> 01:44:42.850 honestly. Oh wow. Yeah, where do you go to school? Right now I'm in Michigan 01:44:46.010 --> 01:44:51.539 at up north around Bay City. Yeah, I was 01:44:51.539 --> 01:44:54.039 gonna say organic chemistry at Columbia was notorious. 01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:56.920 It was a class that nobody wanted 01:44:56.920 --> 01:44:59.399 to take because it was so brutal. If you escaped 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:02.380 with a B minus you were happy. Oh, I know it's 01:45:02.380 --> 01:45:04.819 insane and dealing with the instructors or and 01:45:04.819 --> 01:45:09.130 everyone around is it can be very tasking, 01:45:09.130 --> 01:45:10.609 that's for sure, because you want to go about 01:45:10.609 --> 01:45:13.909 doing things one way or learning things a certain 01:45:13.909 --> 01:45:16.930 way. And since they've changed education so much, 01:45:17.050 --> 01:45:18.930 probably since you've been in school, 01:45:19.130 --> 01:45:24.130 there's no directive with your peers 01:45:24.130 --> 01:45:26.170 or anyone to talk to because everyone's always 01:45:26.170 --> 01:45:31.140 studying completely different things. That sucks. 01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:34.039 Well, hang in there. Good luck. Thanks for calling 01:45:34.039 --> 01:45:37.539 in. And thank you for supporting the show. Thank 01:45:37.539 --> 01:45:40.859 you so much. And sorry for making you wait. Rumble 01:45:40.859 --> 01:45:42.779 did

not notify me that you're in the queue. So 01:45:42.779 --> 01:45:45.300 I think you're calling in. No, you're good. Thank 01:45:45.300 --> 01:45:50.699 you, guys. Calls are standing by. Is it pinned, 01:45:50.859 --> 01:45:53.260 the link? It is. It's pinned. I will go and jump 01:45:53.260 --> 01:45:58.050 on there again, too. Okay. So there's Mr. Charles 01:45:58.050 --> 01:46:01.050 G is asking if I sell calendars. The answer is 01:46:01.050 --> 01:46:05.449 no. I used to. And no I don't. However, 01:46:05.449 --> 01:46:08.550 I should say there is some news to say. I think 01:46:08.550 --> 01:46:11.689 it's going to be about November 11th in about 01:46:11.689 --> 01:46:14.789 two weeks. My next book is coming out. It's a collection 01:46:14.789 --> 01:46:18.270 of my cartoons about imperialism, colonialism 01:46:18.270 --> 01:46:22.069 and foreign policy. And I just went through them. 01:46:22.069 --> 01:46:25.130 I'm like it's funny, it's good. And you can see 01:46:25.130 --> 01:46:27.909 going back basically to when I started drawing 01:46:27.909 --> 01:46:31.149 cartoons for syndication 30 plus years ago sort 01:46:31.149 --> 01:46:33.890 of how so many things haven't really changed 01:46:33.890 --> 01:46:37.090 and the absurdity. And I promise the cartoons 01:46:37.090 --> 01:46:39.069 are funny, even though they deal with some pretty 01:46:39.069 --> 01:46:42.489 bleak topics. So I'll be getting into that. The 01:46:42.489 --> 01:46:45.050 book is called No More Mr. Nice Guy, but I'll 01:46:45.050 --> 01:46:47.750 give you, you can't buy it yet. I'll give 01:46:47.750 --> 01:46:53.949 details about that when I have them. I will 01:46:53.949 --> 01:46:56.250 need to get that book from you. Oh yeah, no, 01:46:56.350 --> 01:46:59.970 that's a given, of course. And so if you want, 01:46:59.989 --> 01:47:01.829 yeah, if you want to call in, go ahead and we 01:47:01.829 --> 01:47:04.449 will take your call just like we just did 01:47:04.449 --> 01:47:07.729 just now. Philip Blair says Sweden is famous 01:47:07.729 --> 01:47:11.750 for nudity too. That's true. Affiliates FOB 01:47:11.750 --> 01:47:15.430 says apparently Brazil's vote was extended because 01:47:15.430 --> 01:47:18.449 of public transport failures which likely would 01:47:18.449 --> 01:47:22.810 affect Lula more and bad weather for which Bolsonaro 01:47:22.810 --> 01:47:28.439 requested extensions. I guess it's true 01:47:28.439 --> 01:47:32.079 mass transit would affect left 01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:33.880 -wing voters more than right-wing voters in 01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:39.079 Latin America. Yeah. I don't know. I 01:47:39.079 --> 01:47:42.680 just know that it's been a very long time since 01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:45.079 I was there. And so obviously the country has 01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.600 changed, but I enjoyed it. It was wild. Some 01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:51.180 of the best food I ever had was there. I got 01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:53.979 to teach Brazilians about the Confederacy when 01:47:53.979 --> 01:47:55.760 I punched this dude out and called him a Yankee. 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:58.239 But you're a Yankees. No, I promise you I am 01:47:58.239 --> 01:48:05.020 not. So that was fun. It was an experience. And 01:48:05.020 --> 01:48:07.779 I think that's one of the biggest weaknesses 01:48:07.779 --> 01:48:10.539 that Americans have is that we do not travel 01:48:10.539 --> 01:48:14.579 enough. Right. Right. No, I agree with that. 01:48:14.699 --> 01:48:17.579 I don't think it should be mandatory, but it's 01:48:17.579 --> 01:48:19.699 good to get out there for sure, just to see how 01:48:19.699 --> 01:48:21.920 other people do things better and differently. 01:48:22.220 --> 01:48:24.560 All right. So let's talk about Serbia a little 01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:30.159 bit, right? Alexander Vucic, who's been a centerpiece 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.640 of Serbian politics since the 1980s. Some people 01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.960 call him a strong man. Some people call him pro 01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:42.960 -Russian. He was very unpopular in Serbia. And 01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.819 there were people who even flew back from other 01:48:45.819 --> 01:48:50.140 countries specifically in order to vote against 01:48:50.140 --> 01:48:52.739 him because they hated him so much. Or they drove 01:48:52.739 --> 01:48:56.420 long distances to their consulate to vote at 01:48:56.420 --> 01:48:59.239 weird times because the consular elections for 01:48:59.239 --> 01:49:02.800 Serbia were held at Serbia's consulate at the 01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:05.819 same time without adjusting as the polls were 01:49:05.819 --> 01:49:08.420 open in Serbia. So they were open in New 01:49:08.420 --> 01:49:10.960 York City at 2 o'clock in the morning, and there 01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:14.520 was a line outside the consulate of Serbians 01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:17.720 waiting to vote, I guess for the most part, against 01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.640 Vucic. This was kind of seen. But on the other 01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:25.130 hand, the guy who won is not really 01:49:25.130 --> 01:49:28.069 anti-Russian either because Serbia has long 01:49:28.069 --> 01:49:30.909 historic ties to Russia. So I don't see that changing 01:49:30.909 --> 01:49:34.029 anytime soon. Yeah, if anything, a lot of 01:49:34.029 --> 01:49:38.239 Serbs feel betrayed because the Russians were 01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:40.659 too weak to help them back during the Serbian 01:49:40.659 --> 01:49:42.560 war when the US was just bombing the hell out 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:48.619 of them. But I think also a majority of the 01:49:48.619 --> 01:49:50.420 population understands that what you said is 01:49:50.420 --> 01:49:53.579 true is that Russia was too weak to help protect 01:49:53.579 --> 01:49:55.600 them and they understand that and that's no longer 01:49:55.600 --> 01:49:59.659 the case. But really just all comes 01:49:59.659 --> 01:50:02.859 down to what are your values. Do you want to

surrender your country's independence? 01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:06.659 You want to surrender your country's sovereignty 01:50:06.659 --> 01:50:10.020 to Brussels or do you think that your country 01:50:10.020 --> 01:50:12.819 should represent the values, the people who are 01:50:12.819 --> 01:50:17.050 there, your legacy population. And I don't 01:50:17.050 --> 01:50:19.329 see that going away. It's kind of like how you 01:50:19.329 --> 01:50:21.369 asked earlier about the difference between a 01:50:21.369 --> 01:50:23.710 right-wing and a left-wing government in Europe. 01:50:24.420 --> 01:50:26.939 I think that's the wrong question. I think the 01:50:26.939 --> 01:50:30.020 question is, this is a populist backlash. This 01:50:30.020 --> 01:50:34.020 transcends normal politics. This comes into what 01:50:34.020 --> 01:50:36.479 does it actually mean to be Serb or Croat or 01:50:36.479 --> 01:50:41.149 French or German or a Dane? What does that even 01:50:41.149 --> 01:50:42.770 mean? It doesn't mean anything at all anymore. 01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:46.300 And if it means something, then the state exists 01:50:46.300 --> 01:50:50.180 to serve you and your interests. And I think 01:50:50.180 --> 01:50:52.420 that's really what this is going into. I think 01:50:52.420 --> 01:50:55.840 that the European experiment is dying and it 01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:58.539 cannot die fast enough. And it's time for the 01:50:58.539 --> 01:51:01.539 independent nations of Europe to become independent 01:51:01.539 --> 01:51:04.239 again and start focusing on their own problems, 01:51:04.380 --> 01:51:07.800 their own people, their issues. And I also include 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:11.439 East Asia in that. The Japanese need to start 01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:15.060 taking care of Japan again and rediscover what 01:51:15.060 --> 01:51:17.479 it means to be Japanese or Korean. But ironically, 01:51:17.659 --> 01:51:20.819 Japan now has a new right-wing prime 01:51:20.819 --> 01:51:23.979 minister, and her attitude is completely the 01:51:23.979 --> 01:51:27.500 opposite. Her attitude is expansionistic, militaristic, 01:51:27.659 --> 01:51:31.079 projecting force out into the Pacific. 01:51:31.380 --> 01:51:34.579 Hey, what could go wrong with Japan projecting 01:51:34.579 --> 01:51:38.079 force out into the Pacific? And getting 01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:41.880 involved in needling China over Taiwan 01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:45.720 and so on and sending international peacekeepers 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.819 to various imperialist projects around the 01:51:48.819 --> 01:51:51.260 world. Japan's doing the very opposite of what 01:51:51.260 --> 01:51:54.000 you're counseling. I don't think so because here's 01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:59.159 the thing. Nationalism is a big check out on low 01:51:59.159 --> 01:52:02.460 birth rates. The Japanese are over the last few 01:52:02.460 --> 01:52:06.760 decades have not been making babies. So then what 01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:10.300 do you do to

make that happen? You tap into your 01:52:10.300 --> 01:52:12.520 history, you tap into your culture, you tap into 01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:14.899 the thing that made Japan what it is. They've 01:52:14.899 --> 01:52:16.899 had this problem, though, for a hundred years. 01:52:17.789 --> 01:52:20.010 Well, that was the end of World War II, and I 01:52:20.010 --> 01:52:21.510 think that what needs to happen, and this is 01:52:21.510 --> 01:52:23.069 the same thing I would tell the French and everybody 01:52:23.069 --> 01:52:27.170 else, you need to decide... I don't know 01:52:27.170 --> 01:52:30.789 how you can have a big family in a place where 01:52:30.789 --> 01:52:34.470 real estate is fundamentally unaffordable. People 01:52:34.470 --> 01:52:37.569 are living on top of each other in tiny, famously 01:52:37.569 --> 01:52:41.090 tiny homes and apartments. If people 01:52:41.090 --> 01:52:44.789 are living in totally close quarters, the last 01:52:44.789 --> 01:52:46.609 thing they want to do is introduce five more 01:52:46.609 --> 01:52:50.550 babies to the equation. That is 100% not true. 01:52:50.689 --> 01:52:52.390 Because what you're able to do is that you're 01:52:52.390 --> 01:52:54.289 able to go in, you can change the system. And 01:52:54.289 --> 01:52:57.909 if you need more land, then the one thing that 01:52:57.909 --> 01:53:01.489 humanity is famous for is looking around and 01:53:01.489 --> 01:53:03.390 saying, who has real estate that they're not 01:53:03.390 --> 01:53:06.470 using that I can take? You sound like a Zionist. 01:53:07.189 --> 01:53:13.279 Well, that's the human condition. Now, am I advocating 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:16.939 that? No, because Japan would lose. They would 01:53:16.939 --> 01:53:19.960 get curb stomped. That being said, though, there 01:53:19.960 --> 01:53:23.140 are things that they're able to do. The fundamental 01:53:23.140 --> 01:53:25.399 problem with Japan and South Korea is that they 01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:28.939 are slaves to a system that exploits them for 01:53:28.939 --> 01:53:31.039 money that they can't take with them when they 01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:35.920 die. That's the problem. That's the issue. So 01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:42.329 what do you do? You change the system. Well, 01:53:42.409 --> 01:53:45.050 changing the, changing the Japanese are 01:53:45.050 --> 01:53:48.229 not good at changing their systems. They 01:53:48.229 --> 01:53:52.489 have not had, well, have they ever, they've 01:53:52.489 --> 01:53:55.149 never really had a revolution, right? Of course 01:53:55.149 --> 01:53:58.939 they did. Oh, hold on. Chet, you're still in 01:53:58.939 --> 01:54:02.159 history. Okay, so the Tokugawa Shogunate ruled 01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:08.399 Japan for 300 years. The Meiji Restoration was 01:54:08.399 --> 01:54:10.760 a revolution in every way, shape, and form. You 01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:14.000 don't think that's more of a foreign imperialist 01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:17.180 project? Oh, hell no.

That was to prevent a foreign 01:54:17.180 --> 01:54:19.399 imperialist project. They saw the Europeans carving 01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:22.300 up the Chinese melon, and Meiji was like, okay, 01:54:22.420 --> 01:54:27.050 the samurai have... they are living in the 1300s. 01:54:27.050 --> 01:54:29.649 They've made Japan into a what. Am I going to 01:54:29.649 --> 01:54:32.170 do? I am going to completely rebuild 01:54:32.170 --> 01:54:35.560 society from the top down. To say that Japan has 01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:40.050 never had a revolution is insane. It 01:54:40.050 --> 01:54:42.170 hasn't had a revolution from in a Marxist sense 01:54:42.170 --> 01:54:45.149 and that was also what a hundred and that 01:54:45.149 --> 01:54:50.260 was almost 200 years ago. So well Marxism doesn't 01:54:50.260 --> 01:54:55.319 work. I'm talking about revolutions. Okay, so 01:54:55.319 --> 01:54:58.039 Robby, two questions, and we're getting toward 01:54:58.039 --> 01:54:59.800 the end of our two hours, so we definitely have 01:54:59.800 --> 01:55:03.199 to hit these. Kilroy for president. One, I'm 01:55:03.199 --> 01:55:05.319 considering going back to church. Any recommendations 01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:08.420 on handling Zionism in many Baptist churches? 01:55:08.899 --> 01:55:11.319 Also, any ideas for ministering to my partner? 01:55:11.659 --> 01:55:15.819 She's a non-practicing Catholic. The first question 01:55:15.819 --> 01:55:18.140 is going to be easier of the two to answer. Zionism 01:55:18.140 --> 01:55:20.539 is just going to be baked into any kind, especially 01:55:20.539 --> 01:55:23.880 of a Baptist church. The best advice I can give 01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:25.859 you is look for an independent church. That's 01:55:25.859 --> 01:55:30.460 not a part of any kind of a larger denomination, 01:55:30.539 --> 01:55:32.659 avoid the Southern Baptists. Find yourself 01:55:32.659 --> 01:55:36.159 a small, local, independent church. Most likely 01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:39.979 they're going to be Zionist, especially if they're 01:55:39.979 --> 01:55:42.800 raised in dispensationalism and Schofieldism. 01:55:43.539 --> 01:55:45.039 That's just to be part of it. It's just baked 01:55:45.039 --> 01:55:48.279 in. Accept it for what it is. But so long as 01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:51.659 they are faithful to the principles of the faith, 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:56.520 how you get saved, that's what matters. As far 01:55:56.520 --> 01:56:01.239 as your partner goes, sit down with her, read 01:56:01.239 --> 01:56:03.920 the Bible with her. Say, hey, I want to do these. 01:56:04.260 --> 01:56:06.659 I'd like to do a Bible study. I would recommend 01:56:06.659 --> 01:56:09.319 that you start in the book of John, the Gospel 01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:12.479 of John, and then move into Romans. Those are 01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:16.140 easy books to read. Also, they make what salvation 01:56:16.140 --> 01:56:21.020 is incredibly plain. It's putting your faith 01:56:21.020 --> 01:56:27.260

in Christ. Paul answers the question, what must 01:56:27.260 --> 01:56:29.380 I do to be saved? Believe the Lord Jesus Christ 01:56:29.380 --> 01:56:32.239 is God. Ask Him to forgive your sins. That's 01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:34.279 it. You don't need a pope. You don't need a dude 01:56:34.279 --> 01:56:37.119 in a dress. You don't have to go and pay 20 Hail 01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:41.909 Marys. Jesus paid the price. And John and Romans 01:56:41.909 --> 01:56:44.529 put together, made that hand and glove, and it's 01:56:44.529 --> 01:56:46.949 very easy to read. A moron like me can understand 01:56:46.949 --> 01:56:49.250 it. So your partner will have no problems at 01:56:49.250 --> 01:56:56.539 all. Okay. All right. So I guess we're wrapping 01:56:56.539 --> 01:56:58.880 it up. Let's take a look and see one last round. 01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:01.140 Take a look and see what other questions have 01:57:01.140 --> 01:57:04.800 come in. Anything else we should hit before we 01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:10.359 get out of here? Marie Laurel says, Le Pen represents 01:57:10.359 --> 01:57:14.500 Germany not France. I've heard that take. Oh 01:57:14.500 --> 01:57:17.159 yeah, Joe Consumer. Thank you very much for the 01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:21.239 ten dollars. Stick it, stick to it boys. We 01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:26.720 will try. We need more of that. Philip Blair 01:57:26.720 --> 01:57:29.619 Robby Marxism works so well in Cuba that the 01:57:29.619 --> 01:57:35.300 US is blockading them. Well, I guess it just depends 01:57:35.300 --> 01:57:37.880 right because Cuba is an interesting test case 01:57:37.880 --> 01:57:40.060 because it never had a chance to even try. But no, China was, and I use that word 01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:47.979 deliberately, it was a communist state. I argue 01:57:47.979 --> 01:57:50.300 now it's more, it's actually a fascist state where 01:57:50.300 --> 01:57:53.359 you have a free market but it's 01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:58.359 dominated by the ruling class. So China's 01:57:58.359 --> 01:58:01.340 not communist. China's markets are always dominated 01:58:01.340 --> 01:58:05.859 by the ruling class. But no, because the oligarchs, 01:58:05.859 --> 01:58:08.159 for example, here, Elon Musk and his ilk 01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:10.680 run the American government. Whereas in China, 01:58:10.720 --> 01:58:13.100 the government will put someone like him to death. 01:58:13.539 --> 01:58:15.699 That's the difference. In China, you can't change 01:58:15.699 --> 01:58:18.819 the party, but you can change the system. In 01:58:18.819 --> 01:58:21.840 the West, you can change the party, but you can't 01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:24.409 change the system. That's the fundamental difference 01:58:24.409 --> 01:58:28.449 between the two. Cuba, I just don't see how. 01:58:30.060 --> 01:58:33.739 I just don't see how, even if it wasn't strangled, 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:35.140 how it would work because it doesn't have the 01:58:35.140 --> 01:58:36.979 resources to be a communist state. Neither does 01:58:36.979 --> 01:58:39.640 Japan. You would have to be capitalistic to expand. 01:58:39.939 --> 01:58:42.380 You would have to exploit wealth somewhere else 01:58:42.380 --> 01:58:44.060 because you don't have any resources of your 01:58:44.060 --> 01:58:48.729 own. All right. And with that, I think we're 01:58:48.729 --> 01:58:51.729 going to call it a two hours. Thanks for tuning 01:58:51.729 --> 01:58:53.909 in. The program is here Monday through Friday 01:58:53.909 --> 01:58:56.970 at 9 a.m. Eastern Time. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 01:58:56.989 --> 01:59:00.170 it goes till 11. Tuesday, Thursday, it goes till 01:59:00.170 --> 01:59:03.340 10. That means tomorrow we go until 10 o'clock. 01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:07.420 Jamarl will probably be out tomorrow, I'm thinking, 01:59:07.520 --> 01:59:09.819 but we'll let you know when we hear from him. 01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:12.840 I hope it's a when. I'm sure it's a when. And 01:59:12.840 --> 01:59:16.579 TMI Show is back on the air tomorrow at 10 o 01:59:16.579 --> 01:59:20.000 'clock at its regular time, 10 to 11 a.m. Eastern 01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:23.819 Time. Please do subscribe to the show. Become 01:59:23.819 --> 01:59:27.739 a subscriber on YouTube. It is by far the easiest 01:59:27.739 --> 01:59:29.699 way you can support us. You don't have to think 01:59:29.699 --> 01:59:31.989 about it. They just charge your bank account 01:59:31.989 --> 01:59:34.630 and you forget all about it because one of those 01:59:34.630 --> 01:59:37.250 many little things. But hopefully 01:59:37.250 --> 01:59:39.090 it's something that brings some happiness and 01:59:39.090 --> 01:59:42.109 some utility into your life. We certainly enjoy 01:59:42.109 --> 01:59:44.050 doing this and would like to continue doing it. 01:59:45.149 --> 01:59:47.029 Robby, thanks very much for filling in for Jamarl. 01:59:47.289 --> 01:59:49.789 No, of course. And I'll try to get a host tomorrow. 01:59:50.170 --> 01:59:52.630 If I can't, you'll be stuck with me again. And 01:59:52.630 --> 01:59:55.329 for the record, personally, if I was, if I had 01:59:55.329 --> 01:59:57.029 to pick a government system, I think I would 01:59:57.029 --> 02:00:01.800 pick the Chinese model because the state controls 02:00:01.800 --> 02:00:05.600 the resources and they don't allow just the rampant 02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:10.979 the exploitation of the people. All right, Robby 02:00:10.979 --> 02:00:13.500 gets the last word. All right. See you tomorrow, 02:00:13.579 --> 02:00:15.659 Robby. All right, buddy. Bye-bye. Bye.