Bản chép lời đầy đủ của Heavyweight

WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:09.300 --> 00:00:12.777 Hello and welcome to Dailyish for Thursday, October 1st, 2026. 00:00:12.777 --> 00:00:14.657 Welcome to the month of Halloween. 00:00:14.835 --> 00:00:17.715 I'm recording an episode every day for this, my 50th year on the planet 00:00:18.131 --> 00:00:20.771 so today, the day after International Podcast Day, I wanna recommend a 00:00:20.771 --> 00:00:22.201 podcast that you should listen to. 00:00:22.201 --> 00:00:25.100 And, it's probably one of my favorite podcasts. 00:00:25.170 --> 00:00:28.840 Uh, it's not my most favorite one to listen to because it 00:00:29.080 --> 00:00:31.110 inevitably punches me in the gut. 00:00:31.110 --> 00:00:37.370 I'll be walking Neville and listening to a story and, like, fighting back tears 00:00:37.440 --> 00:00:41.730 as I try to hold it together on the path, and people are f- passing me and 00:00:41.730 --> 00:00:48.717 wondering why this, uh, man is emotionally drained just from walking his dog. 00:00:48.985 --> 00:00:53.155 But it's not in the manipulative way that sometimes storytelling can be done. 00:00:53.655 --> 00:00:58.845 I feel like Heavyweight manages to sort of thread the needle of telling a really 00:00:58.855 --> 00:01:04.835 human story while still maintaining, uh, the dignity of the storyteller, 00:01:05.095 --> 00:01:08.685 of the person or the people's stories they're telling, because they kind 00:01:08.685 --> 00:01:11.175 of like are brought along with them. 00:01:11.215 --> 00:01:15.806 And Jonathan Goldstein, the host, is really good at, I don't know how 00:01:15.806 --> 00:01:19.726 the, how he does it, but drawing out the stories from the people that he's 00:01:20.166 --> 00:01:25.336 been asked to tell their story with or for in a way that they get to be 00:01:25.346 --> 00:01:28.550 the narrators of their story, even though he's technically the narrator. 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:29.890 I don't know how to explain it exactly. 00:01:29.900 --> 00:01:31.350 That's not doing it justice. 00:01:31.350 --> 00:01:34.099 But It might help that Jonathan Goldstein, he was, uh, the host of 00:01:34.099 --> 00:01:38.264 a show in Canada here on CBC Radio called Wiretap for over a decade. 00:01:38.314 --> 00:01:41.324 And, and then he's done stuff with American, This American 00:01:41.324 --> 00:01:43.321 Life, and then is also a writer 00:01:43.646 --> 00:01:46.686 And the show has been running for, well, there's 10 seasons anyways, 00:01:46.756 --> 00:01:48.036 and I think maybe 10 years. 00:01:48.036 --> 00:01:49.196 I'm not sure if it's a yearly show. 00:01:49.436 --> 00:01:52.606 I know there was some, like, stoppage during, as they switched various 00:01:52.616 --> 00:01:56.192 hosting companies and, and production companies and stuff like that. 00:01:56.192 --> 00:01:57.965 But, So don't be intimidated. 00:01:57.995 --> 00:02:00.835 Sometimes when you look at a show and there's 10 seasons, this isn't s- a show 00:02:00.835 --> 00:02:04.045 where there's, you know, a narrative arc that flows between each episode. 00:02:04.085 --> 00:02:06.655 Sometimes they call back to previous episodes and stuff, but it's 00:02:06.655 --> 00:02:10.175 not in any way that you need to understand all the details and stuff. 00:02:10.175 --> 00:02:14.795 So season 10 just started in, uh, September here, and I just listened 00:02:14.795 --> 00:02:18.965 as I was walking Neville this morning to, uh, episode 67, Jenna. 00:02:19.025 --> 00:02:20.555 And I… 00:02:20.895 --> 00:02:24.855 It was a story that I l- I wasn't thinking I was gonna be even that interested in, to 00:02:24.855 --> 00:02:30.355 be honest, when I was first pressed play, and by the end of it, I was like, my view 00:02:30.355 --> 00:02:37.355 on parenting, children, life, friendship, family, all those things was severely, uh, 00:02:37.455 --> 00:02:40.135 impacted in, in a, the best possible way 00:02:40.531 --> 00:02:42.431 I don't wanna spoil it, but I'll just play a little clip here just so you 00:02:42.431 --> 00:02:44.711 get a sense of what the show sounds like, 'cause I know that can sometimes 00:02:44.711 --> 00:02:48.271 be, uh, either a helpful, helpful or a hindrance if you tune into a show and 00:02:48.331 --> 00:02:50.771 you don't like the sound of it for some reason, or you love the sound of it. 00:02:50.771 --> 00:02:54.511 So here's a little clip from, uh, season 10, episode 67, Jenna 00:03:00.059 --> 00:03:02.588 Jonathan: Jenna still doesn't understand how the Grizzles were able 00:03:02.589 --> 00:03:06.516 to give her up so easily, especially since she saw the lengths they 00:03:06.516 --> 00:03:08.733 went to for their eldest son, Cody. 00:03:09.116 --> 00:03:13.305 Jenna: For the sake of their son, they picked up and they moved, and as I got 00:03:13.317 --> 00:03:19.784 older, I began to s- to ask myself, "Why couldn't they have moved for me?" 00:03:20.610 --> 00:03:23.784 Jonathan: For Jenna, this resulted in her always feeling 00:03:23.795 --> 00:03:25.483 like she just wasn't good enough. 00:03:25.861 --> 00:03:32.031 Jenna: Not pretty enough, not smart enough, just not lovable enough. 00:03:33.382 --> 00:03:35.667 I, I didn't matter. 00:03:37.124 --> 00:03:38.663 I just didn't matter to them. 00:03:40.526 --> 00:03:41.302 There's got to be… 00:03:41.418 --> 00:03:47.655 I know there's more to it, but I carried those stories into my teenage years, 00:03:47.682 --> 00:03:53.441 into all of my dating relationships, into my marriage, into my divorce. 00:03:54.571 --> 00:03:59.943 I've been carrying this weight of not belonging and not being 00:04:00.187 --> 00:04:05.873 enough for nearly 30 years. 00:04:10.508 --> 00:04:12.698 So yeah, I don't know if that resonates with you or doesn't, 00:04:12.748 --> 00:04:14.058 but check it out if it does. 00:04:14.068 --> 00:04:15.928 Heavyweight Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. 00:04:15.968 --> 00:04:19.600 They're on Apple Podcasts, It's one of those shows that, uh, sometimes 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.600 when I tell people I edit and produce podcasts for clients, that's 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:23.800 the kind of show they picture. 00:04:23.830 --> 00:04:28.510 And while I would love to someday figure out how and a way to work on a show 00:04:28.510 --> 00:04:32.400 like that, 'cause it would be amazing, I think, just an experience to, to craft 00:04:32.410 --> 00:04:36.300 episodes in a, in a way that isn't like, "We need to get this out tomorrow," 00:04:36.320 --> 00:04:39.000 or, "We recorded this today and it's going out today," kind of feeling. 00:04:39.200 --> 00:04:44.170 But having time to, like, simmer and stew on a, on an episode and cut 00:04:44.190 --> 00:04:47.560 things and put things back in and move things around and go back for 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:49.170 more story and, and things like that. 00:04:49.230 --> 00:04:52.980 Um, the shows I work on for clients, which I, like I said, I've said before, 00:04:52.980 --> 00:04:57.130 I do enjoy working on, but are much more like, here's a thing we're talking about, 00:04:57.130 --> 00:05:00.880 two people talking about a topic or sharing their expertise on a thing, not 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:04.270 a narrative-driven, uh, story or podcast. 00:05:04.422 --> 00:05:05.442 And they both have their place. 00:05:05.472 --> 00:05:09.678 But, in some ways, I guess I'm, I'm blessed to be able to understand enough 00:05:09.678 --> 00:05:14.299 about the industry and how podcasts work to understand the effort and time and, 00:05:14.758 --> 00:05:19.119 um, experience that goes into a show like this, but not knowing exactly how the 00:05:19.119 --> 00:05:23.328 sausage is made, so to speak, so that I can still just sit back and enjoy, uh, in 00:05:23.329 --> 00:05:25.569 episodes like what Heavyweight puts out. 00:05:25.823 --> 00:05:26.643 So yeah, check it out. 00:05:26.883 --> 00:05:29.153 As always, you can feel free to reply to 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