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a routine that goes unchanged, 34 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.319 a door that closes just like it always has until 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.319 it doesn't. The Final Hours puts those moments under a microscope, 36 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.680 and we have the first episode for you right here. 37 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:00.480 In it, Sarah and Courtney examined the two two thousand 38 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:03.760 and six disappearance of Jennifer Kessei, who vanished on our 39 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:06.159 way to work, leaving behind a mystery that still haunts 40 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.759 investigators today. I mean, I personally have not been able 41 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:10.120 to stop thinking about this case since. 42 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:10.919 I first heard about it. 43 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:13.319 If you like what you hear, be sure to follow 44 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:16.599 the final hours on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or 45 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.520 wherever you listen. New episodes drop every Monday, and you 46 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.840 can find a link to the show in the episode description. 47 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.439 This is crime House. 48 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.120 You're squinting at a blurry, black and white surveillance video. 49 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:41.159 It stated January twenty fourth, two thousand and six. The 50 00:02:41.240 --> 00:02:44.319 time is twelve fifty nine pm. It's taken at the 51 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.879 Huntington on the Green condominium complex in Orlando, Florida, and 52 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.560 shot from a distance. In between the camera and the 53 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.240 parking lot are what appear to be two swimming pools. 54 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:56.439 A few seconds later, a car pulls into the fenced 55 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.439 in lot beyond those pools. It's a two thousand and 56 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:03.319 four Chevy Malibu. It stops and nothing happens for the 57 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:08.199 next thirty two seconds. Then the driver steps out on foot. 58 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:09.879 They head back in the direction they came. 59 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.520 Luckily, another camera gets a closer shot of the driver. 60 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.039 A minute later, that person is recorded walking past a gate. 61 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.360 They appear to be male, with short hair, not very tall, 62 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:23.599 about five three or five to five, and they're dressed 63 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.919 in a light colored outfit, may be a uniform of 64 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.919 some kind. But there's something frustrating about these videos. They glitch, 65 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.719 only catching every two or three seconds of the scene. 66 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.879 Because of that, the driver's face, the suspects face is 67 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.360 always blurred or blocked by the fence. 68 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:45.039 And because of this seemingly tiny issue, Jennifer Kessey's disappearance 69 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:54.639 is a total mystery even today. 70 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.039 Every year, over half a million people go missing, and 71 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.199 that's just in the United States alone. Most of those 72 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.000 stories barely get a headline. Some don't even get a 73 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.240 flyer or a tip line. And when cases do get 74 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.639 media attention, we usually only get the broad strokes. 75 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.000 But for those of us who have lived these true 76 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.240 crime cases, we know the devils in the details. It's 77 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.319 the tiniest moments that play over and over again in 78 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.040 the minds of the victim's family, friends, and investigators alike. 79 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:27.519 Why did they leave their dirty clothes on the floor 80 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:29.920 when they always put them away? Why did they add 81 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:33.480 an exclamation point when they never punctuate a text? Who 82 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:35.639 is that plus one they added to that dinner reservation? 83 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:36.920 They never showed up to. 84 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.839 This is The Final Hours, a Crime House original powered 85 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.759 by Paved Studios. I'm Sarah Turney. If you don't know me, 86 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.360 I've been an advocate for missing and murdered victims for 87 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:50.839 a long time. After my sister Melissa disappeared back in 88 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:53.639 two thousand and one, I dedicated my life to those 89 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:57.319 in similar circumstances by raising awareness and resources for other 90 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:58.360 unsolved cases. 91 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.800 And I'm courting a an investigative journalist who became fascinated 92 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:05.199 with true crime after a member of my own family 93 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.439 found themselves on the wrong side of the law. It 94 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:10.560 taught me there's always more to a story than what 95 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.319 you read in the news, and now I'm dedicated to 96 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:16.839 shining a different perspective on cases and amplifying stories that 97 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.720 haven't gotten enough attention. So every Monday, Sarah and I 98 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.000 will be looking at the tiniest details that might not 99 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.600 have gotten attention either. Each episode, Sarah will offer insight 100 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.439 on what those close to the victim might have been 101 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.079 going through, and I'll give more context into the crime scene, 102 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.759 the red flags, and the

investigation itself. 103 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.600 We'll be putting the final hours of these cases under 104 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.680 a microscope, from the timeline to the clues to the 105 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.040 last conversations. We'll be looking for anything that could be 106 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:47.639 hiding in plain sight, because when it comes to getting justice, 107 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:49.800 there's no such thing as over analyzing. 108 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:53.720 For our first episode, we're discussing the disappearance of Jennifer Kessi. 109 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:56.800 In January two thousand and six, twenty four year old 110 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.240 Jennifer had just gotten home from a vacation with her 111 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.839 boyfriend and was ready to get back to her routine. 112 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.160 On the morning of the twenty fourth, she took a 113 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.319 shower and did her hair and makeup and walked out 114 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.519 the door of her new condo, expecting another ordinary day, 115 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.480 and fortunately it was anything. 116 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:23.160 But It's two thousand and six. A new chapter is 117 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.480 just beginning for twenty four year old Jennifer Kessei. She 118 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.800 recently bought her first condo in Orlando, Florida, and while 119 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.199 she's had a boyfriend Rob for about a year now, 120 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:35.120 they aren't quite ready to move in together yet. The 121 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:39.319 relationship's long distance Robs three hours away in Fort Lauderdale. 122 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.839 Jennifer doesn't love it, but she's embracing it. They see 123 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:45.279 each other on the weekends and during the week she 124 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.759 seems to enjoy her independence She's got a job she loves, 125 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.439 a financial analyst at a timeshare business, which she's crushing. 126 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:55.040 By the way. She's gotten two promotions in her first 127 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:57.519 year at the company. That's how she can afford that 128 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.439 new luxury condo. And she's got a great group of 129 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.639 friends and family that really adores and supports her. Her 130 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.040 family is about two hours away in the Tampa Bay Area. 131 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.759 She and her younger brother, Logan are super close. She's 132 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.439 got a solid group of girlfriends from her sorority days 133 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:19.040 back at the University of Central Florida. She's popular, a leader, responsible, 134 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.759 and not afraid to be assertive or speak her mind. 135 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.439 Everything you'd expect from a young, hungry professional who's undoubtedly 136 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:30.279 going places. Most of all, she's got a really great 137 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:31.560 head on her shoulders. 138 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:34.000 Yeah, and the one thing that kept coming up about 139 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.839 Jennifer was she was super mindful of her own personal safety, 140 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.319 the kind of student who would carry pepper spray in 141 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.560 her purse while walking across campus, someone with a you 142 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.839 can never be too careful type of attitude. Maybe that's 143 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.560 because she heard this story growing up many years back 144 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.399 when they lived in New Jersey. Her parents, Drew and Joyce, 145 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.360 were held at gunpoint. I don't know too many details 146 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.600 about that, but when something like this happens to the 147 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.759 people you love, you take your own personal safety a 148 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.639 lot more seriously. And that's exactly what Jennifer did. She 149 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.199 saw it as a cautionary tale. Now living alone, not 150 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.600 super close to her boyfriend and family, Jennifer was extra 151 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:16.920 aware of her surroundings. Her new condo, the Mosaic at Millennia, 152 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.360 wasn't in the nicest part of Orlando. Sure, it was 153 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.279 a gated community with on site security, but it was 154 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.439 still in the process of being built when she moved in, 155 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:30.199 which meant a lot of strangers, particularly construction workers, coming 156 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.600 and going from the property at all hours of the day. 157 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.200 And Jennifer mentioned the uneasiness she felt to her family 158 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:40.120 and her boyfriend Rob on more than one occasion. You know, 159 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:42.360 I think Jennifer did the right thing by expressing her 160 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.240 concerns to family and friends. 161 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:44.600 Smart. 162 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:46.919 It's very smart. I still do that, you know, twenty 163 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.399 seven years old. But when a woman lives alone, she 164 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.159 becomes a target for predators. 165 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.240 Well, I think that's one of the scariest aspects is 166 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.080 that she did all the right things. 167 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.279 Yeah, she did everything right. You know, living alone, you 168 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.639 do become an easy target, especially you know in Jennifer's case, 169 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.480 where she's in a condo and it's being it's newly built, 170 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:08.000 so there's tons of

people kind of coming and going, 171 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.600 and you can kind of become an easy target. And 172 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:13.120 I feel like that goes for any woman, you know. 173 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.440 Yeah. Unfortunately, Well, at least Jennifer got a little break 174 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.840 from the stress of everyday life in January two thousand 175 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.399 and six. On the nineteenth, she and Rob took a 176 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.519 vacation to the Caribbean island of Saint Croix. The trip 177 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.799 was short, they were gone for less than four days, 178 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.200 but it seemed to be exactly what she needed. Meanwhile, 179 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:34.759 Jennifer's brother, Logan did a little house sitting. That weekend. 180 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:37.399 He and two of his friends, Travis and Matt went 181 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.480 to her condo to hang out, but Travis ended up 182 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:42.919 forgetting his work phone there. He planned to get it 183 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.200 from Jennifer when she returned. By the evening of January 184 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.519 twenty second, Jennifer and Rob were back in Florida. She 185 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.000 spent the night at his place in Fort Lauderdale and 186 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.039 then drove straight to work from there. On the Monday 187 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.440 morning of the twenty third. That night, after leaving her office, 188 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.919 Jennifer called her parents to tell them all about SAT. 189 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.480 Her mother, Joyce, said that Jennifer had an excellent time. 190 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.919 Joy said she quote was on a cloud. She also 191 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.799 spoke to Logan, who asked her to keep an eye 192 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.840 out for Travis's phone. Jennifer said she saw it and 193 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:14.879 would take it with her the following morning to work 194 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.240 so she could mail it back to him, since it 195 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.320 was easier than making the hour and a half drive 196 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.279 to pick it up. But things shifted when Jennifer called 197 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:23.960 Rob around ten pm that night. 198 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.840 Apparently they had a bit of a disagreement, which Rob 199 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.279 would later freely admit. Coming down from the high of 200 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:32.399 the trip, he said they got into a heated discussion 201 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:35.440 about being long distance. Rob claimed this was a big 202 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.000 point of contention in the relationship. The distance made Jennifer 203 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.440 feel a little insecure, almost like Rob didn't love her 204 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:42.120 enough to move. 205 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.279

I feel like these last moments are so hard. You 206 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.679 always imagine the last time you see somebody that you're 207 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.720 going to have these amazing words of affirmation, that you're 208 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.919 going to tell them how much you love them, and 209 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.600 that's just not reality. You know, sometimes we fight, sometimes 210 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:01.840 we have arguments, and you just never want to have 211 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.120 that be the last thing you say to someone. Yeah. 212 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:04.679 Yeah. 213 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.440 And I know from firsthand experience that you go back 214 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.679 and you think about those last moments and you overanalyze, 215 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.600 and you know, for me, you criticize yourself. You always 216 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:17.000 wish that you did more, you said more, and especially 217 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:17.799 love them more. 218 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:19.879 And the hardest part is you just never know in 219 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.440 that moment's going to happen. And so you know, those 220 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.240 last words are it's tough, yeah, and then what if? 221 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:26.039 Yeah? 222 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:28.320 Absolutely, Like you always think what if? What if I 223 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.919 did something different that could have changed the whole course 224 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.480 of this. And when you overanalyze, you go back and 225 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.519 you think, you know, were they hinting at something? You 226 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.159 try to like draw any information or any clues you 227 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:39.879 can out of those last statements. 228 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:40.399 You know. 229 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.639 Unfortunately that's the thing with these cases. Sometimes there's zero 230 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:48.600 indication anything is wrong, because nothing is. But other times 231 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:51.240 there are tiny little clues that maybe we didn't notice before, 232 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.519 which you know, which is why investigators always pay really 233 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.279 close attention to even the tiniest deviation from someone's routine 234 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:01.519 before their disappearance, did pack a bag, search for a 235 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.720 new location, text a new friend, Maybe they spoke about 236 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:08.159 a change in plans, a new encounter, an unexpected phone call, 237 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:10.840 something that might not seem like anything out of the 238 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.120 ordinary but can actually be the key to unlocking at all. 239 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.960 I feel like specifically morning routines. Yeah, I think morning 240 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:21.639 routines are obviously very important for many reasons, but it's 241 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.120 because it's what people typically stick to, you know, A 242 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:29.639 small little deviation that could. 243 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:32.080 Mean everything, absolutely. You know, if you know somebody that 244 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.080 deeply right, something like they didn't have coffee that morning 245 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.879 could make all the difference, you know, like what happened? 246 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:42.320 Why were they thrown off? It's those little tiny details absolutely. 247 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.159 Unfortunately, we don't know exactly how Jennifer's conversations went that night. 248 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.039 We don't know if anything deviated from the norm, and 249 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.200 we don't know how they ended either, But we do 250 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.919 know that that was the last time any of them 251 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.720 got to hear Jennifer's voice. 252 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.200 It's January twenty fourth, two thousand and six, sometime before 253 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:14.600 seven thirty am. Jennifer's tand lines are fading, Her bags 254 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.919 haven't even been unpacked, her suitcase sits on the floor 255 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.200 of her living room, waiting for that dreaded laundry day. 256 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:24.120 Jennifer lays out a few different outfits on her bed 257 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.320 and chooses one for work. Then she turns on the 258 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:30.799 shower and hops in, going through that same autopilot routine 259 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.559 we all do. Afterwards, she gets in front of the 260 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.799 mirror and does her hair and makeup, the same way 261 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:39.559 she does every single morning. She checks the clock. It's 262 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.320 getting close to seven thirty am. She needs to get 263 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.519 out the door soon. Her bathroom's a mess, but it 264 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.559 often is. She always leaves her makeup and curling iron 265 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.120 on the counter to clean up later. She tosses her 266 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.639 damp towel on the bed. She grabs her cell phone 267 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.240 and Travis' cell phone to mail back to him. She 268 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.840 takes her iPod, her keys to her Chevy Malibu, and 269 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.679 her purse and heads out the door, locking it behind her. 270 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.240 I think that these are the points in these stories 271 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.919 that always stick with me, these really normal moments putting 272 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.519 on your makeup, leaving your curling iron out, having no 273 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.799 idea that your whole life is about to change. 274 00:14:14.159 -->

00:14:17.279 And it's stories exactly like Jennifer's that really make us 275 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.399 realize that you're never guaranteed any moment in life, and 276 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.960 at any point in time it can be turned upside down. 277 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.720 Absolutely. I mean, and this is a woman with plans. 278 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.720 She had Travis's cell phone ready to mail back, which 279 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.159 is like not a fun thing to do. She was 280 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:35.080 ready to get things done that day. This is just 281 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:36.919 not somebody who disappeared willingly. 282 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.000 So I think, you know, as someone who's covered a 283 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:44.320 lot of true crime cases unsolved solved, I think the 284 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.759 moments that really stick out to me when it comes 285 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.320 to each and every case is the tiniest little details 286 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:53.039 of right before they disappeared or before tragedy struck. It's 287 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.519 very humanizing because we all go through the same motions 288 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.600 as human beings, and it just makes you realize that 289 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.000 it could be any one of us at any given time. 290 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.240 Yeah, there's something about the wet towel on the bed 291 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:05.960 for me. I don't know what it is, but it's 292 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.480 something about leaving a wet towel like you're gonna come 293 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.200 back for that, You're not gonna let it sit there 294 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.679 and mildew. It might be the weirdest thing to say, 295 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.159 but there's something about that that just sticks in my mind. 296 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.000 Yeah, sticks to me too. It's just also heartbreaking to 297 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:21.679 envision in your head. You know, she had a whole life, 298 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.360 she plan on coming back to continue her life, yet 299 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.960 you know something happened that prevented. 300 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.240 That from happening. Yeah, I mean that morning is critical. 301 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.480 You know. One thing though that kind of sticks with 302 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.279 me about this though, is even though there are so 303 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.120 many people outside getting ready to go to work and 304 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:39.759 start their days. You know, it's a place where you 305 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.159 think you would feel in the safest, but sometimes you know, 306 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.799 people can get so in their heads and so focused 307 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.000 on getting from point A to point B that they 308 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.679 don't take a second to look up in kind of 309 00:15:49.720

--> 00:15:52.639 case their surroundings. And so even though you could be 310 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.840 surrounded by a ton of people, everybody else is kind 311 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.759 of in their own heads and maybe not picking up 312 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.960 on something potentially bad happening right in front of them. 313 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.480 Yeah, it's scary. 314 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.919 Typically, every morning, while she's on her way into the office, 315 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.840 Jennifer calls Rob to say hello, But that morning eight 316 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.639 am comes and goes, and Rob hasn't heard a thing 317 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.840 from her. He waits and calls her again after he 318 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.080 gets out of his nine o'clock meeting. Now, his calls 319 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:23.720 are going straight to voicemail, which is not usual. At 320 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.240 the same time, Jennifer's coworkers are also getting worried. It's 321 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.559 not like her to not call or show up for work. 322 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.879 So around eleven AM, the company's CFO dials Jennifer's parents 323 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.600 to see if they've heard from her. Immediately, panic sets 324 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.919 in for Joyce and Drew. Within minutes that are hopping 325 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.759 in the car to make the drive from the Tampa 326 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:46.919 Bay area to Jennifer's condo in Orlando. Her brother Logan 327 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:48.960 and his friend Travis also meet them there. 328 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.600 When Joyce and Drew first arrive, the apartments logged. Luckily, 329 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:54.919 they do seem to have a spare key, but when 330 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.440 they get inside, they don't find Jennifer or anything out 331 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.159 in the ordinary for that matter. In fact, Joyce says 332 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.240 her condo looks how it always looks, a bit messy, 333 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.079 hair and makeup products all over the counter. The towel 334 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.400 is still wet, so she clearly took a shower that 335 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.240 morning and got ready for work. Her other outfits are 336 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:16.359 still laid out on the bed, her purse, keys, briefcase, iPod, 337 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:18.480 and both her cell phone and the one left by 338 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.640 Travis are all gone and her car isn't in the 339 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.519 parking lot, So now her parents are thinking, Okay, maybe 340 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.440 she got into an accident on her way to work. 341 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.559 They start calling hospitals and police stations in the area, 342 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.079 but none of them have gotten a report of a 343 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.880 woman matching Jennifer's description. At this point, they do what 344 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:39.759 I would encourage any family to do. They file a 345 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:41.799 missing person's report with local police. 346 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.839 Except the police fail to take Jennifer's case seriously at first, 347 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.440 especially after they speak with Rob, who says he and 348 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.599 Jennifer had a little spat the night before. The police 349 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.920 say it's likely she just stormed off somewhere to cool 350 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:56.279 down and she'll probably resurface soon. 351 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.519 This is something I could talk about for how police 352 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.519 departments sometimes don't take these cases seriously. And it's a 353 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.000 hard thing, right because most people who go missing do 354 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.960 come back, But how do you balance that with the 355 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.319 small percentage that don't. Like this is a family who 356 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:17.039 truly did everything they could to make, you know, to 357 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.759 try to find Jennifer right away, and they knew. 358 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.000 Immediately that something was wrong, and you know, that goes 359 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.559 to show how close they were with Jennifer and how 360 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:25.480 much they knew her. 361 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:26.960 Yeah, And I just want to say, like, if there's 362 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.559 any family out there that's listening, if somebody in your 363 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:32.359 life goes missing and the police refuse to take a report, 364 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.480 keep insisting, keep being annoying for your loved one. Yes, 365 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.000 there's a huge misconception around reporting a loved one missing 366 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.480 and that window of time that says you have to wait. 367 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.880 There's actually no legal requirement that says you have to 368 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.039 wait twenty four to forty eight hours to file a 369 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.599 missing person's report. You know, if you think something is wrong, 370 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.240 it probably is, and speak with police immediately, don't wait, Yeah, 371 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:58.960 because I mean, you know, those first few hours are 372 00:18:59.079 --> 00:18:59.960 so critical. 373 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.759 Yeah, you know, in disappearance cases, the first forty eight 374 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.640 hours are crucial. So when investigators aren't taking a case 375 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.839 seriously right away, it is precious time wasted. Witnesses disappear, 376 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:17.720 evidence degrades, and memories fade. In this situation, the family 377 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:20.559 takes

matters into their own hands, which we've seen time 378 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:24.519 and time again. They begin questioning other people at Jennifer's complex, 379 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.599 including the construction workers and day laborers who are on 380 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.880 site that day. Logan actually speaks to a few of them, 381 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:34.160 and he says none of them aren't very cooperative. Actually, 382 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:37.039 he sense they knew something they weren't sharing. For the 383 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.039 rest of the day, there's no word from Jennifer, and 384 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.799 while friends and family members are already handing out missing 385 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:46.720 person posters, the local police don't start investigating until later 386 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:49.759 that evening, which is so sad. One of the first 387 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.599 things they look for is security footage, which the building 388 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:55.920 doesn't have. Since the condo is still fairly new and 389 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.480 under construction, cameras haven't been installed yet. It's a strating 390 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:05.359 dead end, so they start questioning potential witnesses. There's not 391 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:07.279 a ton of neighbors though, and a lot of the 392 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.920 units are still vacant. Luckily, there is one person in 393 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.960 the building who says they saw something. 394 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.400 Yeah, At around seven forty in the morning of Jennifer's disappearance, 395 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:19.799 someone saw her Chevy Malibu leaving the parking lot. All 396 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:22.359 they really say is that it was driving erratically and 397 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.480 they found that to be unusual, But they apparently didn't 398 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.440 get a good look at who was inside the car, 399 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.319 and when police examined her apartment and realized there's no 400 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.880 sign of an altercation, a break in, or a robbery. 401 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:36.519 That's when they realize Jennifer must have been abducted in 402 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:41.079 her parking lot in broad daylight. The question was by 403 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.359 who and where did they take her? 404 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.599 Yeah, it's especially hard in cases like this. You know, 405 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.400 sometimes in these cases, all investigators can do is wait, 406 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:54.160 if you know the evidence is as eliminated as it is, 407 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.079 especially if they've already followed up on things like cell 408 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:00.759 phone records and previous communications and ruled that out as well. 409 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.000 I don't know, I guess, I guess. Logan did talk 410 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:05.519 about like having an instinct about the guys. 411 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.799 Well, two days after Jennifer's disappearance, please get their first 412 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:16.359 huge clue. On January twenty sixth, someone finds Jennifer's black 413 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:19.559 two thousand and four Chevy Malibu. It's sitting in a 414 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.920 parking lot at a different condo complex about a mile away, 415 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:27.359 parked in a visitor space. But this complex isn't someplace 416 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.880 Jennifer's been known to visit before. In fact, the complex 417 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.160 has a reputation for being a place where people ditch 418 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:37.279 stolen vehicles. Interestingly, one of the first things police do 419 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.200 when they find Jennifer's car is, they call Rob to 420 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.680 the scene. At this point, they've heard Rob's airtight alibi 421 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:46.839 he was over two hundred miles away when Jennifer disappeared, 422 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:49.720 but they want to see his reaction when they open 423 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:53.200 the trunk. Investigators lead him to the rear of the car, 424 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:56.640 and with his heart racing and stomach churning, they pop 425 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:01.559 it open. But Jennifer's not inside. Like the police were anticipating. 426 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.200 There's actually nothing unusual about the car at all. There's 427 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:09.200 no immediate sign of a struggle. Plus, at first glance, 428 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:12.039 it doesn't look like a robbery since a DVD player 429 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.720 and a few other things of Jennifer's are still inside, 430 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:17.880 like her phone charger and a couple pairs of shoes. 431 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.440 So afterwards, the cars taken to the station and their 432 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:24.920 detectives find a few other key pieces of evidence, like 433 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.119 a few strands of hair, other latent fingerprints, and a 434 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:32.319 partial palm print on the hood, which was actually pretty significant. 435 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:35.359 Police didn't share this detail publicly at the time, but 436 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:39.000 Jennifer's dad, Drew later said quote it looked like someone 437 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:41.519 was thrown down on the top of the hood, arms 438 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.079 spread out and then dragged back, almost like off the 439 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.400 hood to the point where you can almost see fingers 440 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:50.519 scribbling down the hood end quote. So there appears to 441 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.440 be signs of a struggle. After all. What they don't 442 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:58.279 find is Jennifer or Travis's cell, her keys, purse, iPod

443 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:01.880 or briefcase for work. And when they run those prints 444 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:06.000 through local and national databases, they can't find a match. 445 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.519 They also say the DNA is too degraded to get 446 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.240 a read on it. However, the discovery of the car 447 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.200 does lead to maybe the biggest piece of evidence this 448 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.680 case has yet to see, not security footage of the 449 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:18.440 parking lot. 450 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.319 Court's talking about the security footage we mentioned at the 451 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:24.279 beginning of the episode, the one showing a male between 452 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:27.279 five foot three and five foot five parking Jennifer's car, 453 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.839 getting out, and walking back along a fence in the 454 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.680 direction he came. Jennifer's nowhere to be found in that footage, 455 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.119 but it was captured at twelve fifty nine pm, the 456 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:39.519 day she disappeared. If Jennifer was taken from her complex 457 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:42.400 between seven thirty and eight am, what happened in that 458 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.960 five hour block of time. The big issue here is 459 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.559 the quality of the video. The footage of the man 460 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.599 in the parking lot is super far away and blurry. 461 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.319 The images of him walking along the fence are a 462 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:57.279 little bit better, but as we mentioned, his face is 463 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:00.240 blocked by the fence in every frame. That's why the 464 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:05.519 police turned to an unexpected resource, NASA. Yes, the NASA, 465 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:07.839 to see if they can use their advanced technologies to 466 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.480 improve the quality of the video. But as it turns out, 467 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.279 this is a problem even NASA can solve. They've improved 468 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:17.960 the resolution a bit, but it still wasn't clear enough 469 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.400 to make out the potential suspect. I'm sure that this 470 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:25.680 has stuck with Jennifer's family forever. It's things like this again, 471 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:27.680 where you think about the what ifs. What if we 472 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.960 just had that security footage, what if it was just 473 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.119 a little bit more clear. It feels like the answers 474 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:36.960 are right there, but they just can't physically see them 475 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.799 in that video. And I can't even imagine how that 476 00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:40.519 makes them feel. 477 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.920 It is kind of like a little sliver of hope 478 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.200 that you do have the potential suspect caught on camera, 479 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.079 you know, but it is just it's frustrating that they 480 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.960 you know, they can't narrow down the face and you know, 481 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:54.160 I want to point out that it's not unusual to 482 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:57.000 see a suspect abandon a victim's car so close to 483 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.279 the abduction point or crime scene. This actually been for 484 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.359 an easier getaway, or if they want to switch into 485 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.119 a new vehicle, maybe parked nearby. 486 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:06.880 I think it makes it even harder to understand if 487 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.440 this was meticulously planned out or just kind of done 488 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.359 last minute, if this was a crime of opportunity. You know, 489 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:16.599 his face was always perfectly blocked by something. And again 490 00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.400 I'm sure this is, you know, even today, a really 491 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:24.640 haunting thing to look at because it's the only real 492 00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:29.200 suspect that this case has yet you just can't figure 493 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:29.880 out who it is. 494 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:32.119 Well. 495 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.319 Regardless of what was going through the suspects head of 496 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.000 the time, one thing was certain. Police were now pulling 497 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.400 out all the stops to find Jennifer Kessey, and it 498 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:43.680 was only a matter of time before they began narrowing 499 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:47.519 down their suspect list, leading to a guy known only 500 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:48.680 as Chino. 501 00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.480 There was evidence in the house, and they would not 502 00:25:57.920 --> 00:25:58.640 listen to me. 503 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.640 This podcast is back with a new case and a 504 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.599 new season, and this time the stakes are higher than 505 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:06.240 ever before. 506 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:09.680 The letter the Doctor said, I asked twenty one or 507 00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:10.960 left to I'm. 508 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.480 Security either of us. Right now, A dying man is 509 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:16.519 serving a life sentence for a murder he says he 510 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:17.119 didn't commit. 511 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.680 Did you ever question if they got the right person? 512 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.000 I don't think I've believed it at the time. I 513 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:24.000 don't think I believe it now. 514 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.640 I'm scared to be sitting here in his damn chaired 515 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:27.599 talking about this shit. 516 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:30.680 How many other cold cases we're

going to come forward 517 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.279 and go, hey man, we need to look at money, 518 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:34.920 and because I didn't do it, how many more do 519 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:35.240 we have? 520 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.759 You can listen now to season three of Proof wherever 521 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.799 you get your podcasts, and follow along with us as 522 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:43.880 we reinvestigate the murder at the bike shop. 523 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.000 Everything I tell you is truly. I'm not bull shitting 524 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.160 one way or the other. I hope I don't bring 525 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:56.079 it Tony shit down on me. I really do. It's 526 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.839 January twenty sixth, two thousand and six, eight ten am. 527 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.279 Jennifer Kessey's car is found in the parking lot of 528 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.400 the Huntington on the Green condominium complex, less than a 529 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:09.000 mile from her home. A bloodhound named bo is dispatched 530 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.480 that day. He pulls the smell from the driver's seat 531 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.200 and follows a trail it leads police back to Jennifer's complex. 532 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.799 The trail actually bypassed the complex's main gated entrance and 533 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.119 led to a stretch of fence that separated the private 534 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.559 property from the public sidewalk. The dog followed that sent 535 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.559 through the fence onto the property and directly to the 536 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.480 rear staircase leading to Jennifer's condo. So police think the 537 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:35.119 assailant went back on foot after dropping off the vehicle 538 00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:38.279 to Jennifer's condo. What the dog can't tell them is 539 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.200 who the scent belongs to or why they go back 540 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.160 to the scene of the crime. 541 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.200 By February, police are canvassing the area with more dogs, horses, 542 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:50.200 and helicopters to see if they can find Jennifer Kessey. 543 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.240 They search nearby lakes, ponds, all wooded areas, but it 544 00:27:55.359 --> 00:28:00.039 leads nowhere. After about three to four polygraphs, twelve interviews, 545 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.680 and his full cooperation, they rule out Jennifer's boyfriend Rob 546 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.359 as a suspect. Instead, they focus on what that centrail 547 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:09.880 has been telling them and what Jennifer was telling her 548 00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.279 loved ones in the weeks before her disappearance, that they 549 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.960 might be looking for someone who works at the Mosaic, 550 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.079 particularly a construction worker, a day laborer, and it's

possible 551 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.119 more than one of them is involved. Many of these 552 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:27.519 day laborers disappeared before the police could speak with them. 553 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.640 Joyce Kessey told CBS that this may be because they 554 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.240 weren't US citizens and were afraid of being sent home. 555 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:36.680 Because after speaking with other residents at the building, many 556 00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.240 of whom are Jennifer's age, single young women living alone, 557 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.920 police hear a few more unsettling details, like the fact 558 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.759 that many of the workers slept in the unoccupied condos 559 00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.119 overnight after their shifts, and they would reportedly drink and 560 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.079 party there after hours. Two Some of the women said 561 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.519 they were harassed that the workers would can't call and 562 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:59.480 whistle at women, including Jennifer. At least one resident claimed 563 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.200 that twenty five percent of the time, the security guard 564 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.240 was missing from the gatehouse and they left it unattended. 565 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.599 Some residents complained to the leasing office manager about this, 566 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.000 but they said there was nothing they could do about it. 567 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.240 One woman even said she was pretty sure the workers 568 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.039 let themselves into her apartment when she wasn't home. She 569 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.920 said she noticed little things like her underwear drawer had 570 00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.640 been rummaged through, or that her shower was wet when 571 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.440 she hadn't used it. There was even a night when 572 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.640 she saw a man standing on her patio pleasuring himself. 573 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.599 So this gets investigators thinking, with no signs of a 574 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.480 body and potentially more than one suspect involved, could it 575 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.559 be possible that Jennifer was a victim of human trafficking. 576 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.000 It's such a hard situation. I mean, I think all 577 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.799 families want to have hope, right, but it's also horrific 578 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.559 to think about somebody going into human trafficking. It's it's 579 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.519 just impossible. 580 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.599 You know, a lot of people think it is, and 581 00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.759 a lot of people think it happens in these these 582 00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.680 far away places that aren't, you know, in everybody's every 583 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.720 day life. But you know, in reality, it can take 584 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.359 place anywhere. Oh yeah, I mean it can happen right 585 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:06.960 in front of you. I think that's you know, I 586 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:09.480 think we've all been to the airport and seen those signs, 587 00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.440 you know about human trafficking, like it happens right in 588 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.240 front of us, right under our noses. Years ago, I 589 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.839 used to work at the front desk of a hotel 590 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.519 in Seattle, And one of the big things that they 591 00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:22.960 honed in was that everybody working at the front desk 592 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.119 or basically interacting with with any guest at any given 593 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.240 point you would have to complete, you know, an online 594 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.759 course for recognizing human trafficking. It was that big of 595 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.000 a deal. And so it's really important to know the signs. 596 00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.720 That's amazing that they did that, though we need more 597 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.640 hotels to do that. Good on them, like do. 598 00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.200 They appear to be controlled by another person and can't 599 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.519 be left alone? Did they have poor hygiene or show 600 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.039 signs of neglect? And do they have any tattoos that 601 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:54.559 signify branding like names, barcodes or money simples, And can 602 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.880 they share with you where they are from and where 603 00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.599 they are going in a way that seems genuine. You know, 604 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.599 if you know the signs can be it can be 605 00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:03.960 easy to spot. And you know, I urge everyone to 606 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.079 pay close attention when you're out in public, and especially 607 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.799 workers in the public, like you know, front desk employees 608 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:11.799 at a hotel. 609 00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:14.039 And if you do suspect something, call the US National 610 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.519 Human Trafficking Hotline or nine one one. 611 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.839 And actually, you know, human trafficking is a shockingly underreported 612 00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:24.759 crime in the US, and the real number of victims 613 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.480 is a lot more than we actually think. The US 614 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.240 National Human Trafficking Hotline recorded ten thousand, three hundred and 615 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.839 fifty nine trafficking situations involving over sixteen thousand different victims 616 00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.680 in twenty twenty one alone, and they say this is 617 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.599 only a fraction of the real data. 618 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.920 Because disappearances in human trafficking

cases can be so hard 619 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.200 to investigate, Jennifer's case started to slow over the next 620 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.440 few years. During that time, there were a few suspicious 621 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.599 details that kept the family guessing, like in August two 622 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:58.200 thousand and seven, Jennifer's photo was found on several dating sites, 623 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.400 but authorities working vince the user had nothing to do 624 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:05.000 with her disappearance. That same month, the family also received 625 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.440 threatening phone calls from a twenty eight year old named 626 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:11.599 Tyler Green. These calls went on for years, saying Logan 627 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.920 was next, along with harassing messages on the web page 628 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.519 the family started for Jennifer. Later, Tyler would be charged 629 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:22.079 with aggravated stocking, among other things, but he was apparently 630 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:26.279 never considered a suspect in the case. However, around two 631 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:29.799 thousand and nine, three years after Jennifer disappeared, a promising 632 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.720 new lead did emerge. Detectives had gone back to the 633 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.640 complex to reinterview potential witnesses, and this time they found 634 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.599 a housekeeper who looked at the security footage and said 635 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.839 the guy in it looked a lot like someone named Chino. 636 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.079 Chino was a maintenance worker on the property who'd been 637 00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.440 staying in another building at the complex. In fact, he'd 638 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.480 gone into Jennifer's apartment to fix something the week before 639 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.799 she disappeared. So detectives run Chino through the system and 640 00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.559 learned that they actually received a tip about him during 641 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.880 the first week of the investigation, suggesting he was involved. 642 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.200 And it wasn't hard to track him down because by 643 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.599 March two thousand and nine, he was doing time in 644 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:11.680 a Florida prison for the statutory rape of a teenage girl, 645 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.440 which was committed two years after Jennifer's disappearance. Plus, there 646 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.799 were a few suspicious details about Chino, like the fact 647 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.519 that he'd supposedly had keys to every condo in the 648 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.759 complex and that he'd apparently approached other women in the 649 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:28.839 parking lot late at night, and just nine months after 650 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.200 Jennifer vanished, he did two, he moved out of the 651 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.240 complex and was never seen by anyone there again. However, 652 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.319 Chino was a bit taller than the suspect in the footage. 653 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.720 He was around five foot nine, and he was cooperative 654 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.440 with the police. He denied having anything to do with 655 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.079 Jennifer's disappearance and even agreed to do a polygraph, which 656 00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.519 he passed. Police were never able to find any direct 657 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.119 connection between him and Jennifer's case, so eventually they moved on. 658 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.599 By twenty eleven, there was only one to ten left 659 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.759 working Jennifer's case full time. Meanwhile, the Kesses asked the 660 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.840 police to make Jennifer's case cold, mainly because there's more 661 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:14.039 resources available for cold cases, like additional funding, specialized programs, 662 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.559 priority access to modern forensics methods, to name a few, 663 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:22.199 But for some reason, the Orlando Police Department refused. 664 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.039 Twenty sixteen marked ten years since Jennifer's disappearance. It was 665 00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.360 also the year she was officially declared dead by a 666 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.440 Florida court, but the search was far from over. In 667 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.840 twenty eighteen, the Kesses sued the Orlando Police Department for 668 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.960 a copy of the case file. In twenty nineteen, they 669 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.400 were successful. In fact, they were the first Americans to 670 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.039 ever successfully sue for an open case file. The city 671 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.840 charged the family more than eighteen thousand dollars for those files, 672 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:52.800 but at least they were able to go through them 673 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.480 all on their own now, and they hired their own 674 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.119 private team to help, which they probably needed because there's 675 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.599 more than sixteen pages of documents and sixty seven hours 676 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:06.119 of interviews and audio tapes. But those files also led 677 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.000 to a disturbing realization there'd been no investigative work done 678 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.800 on Jennifer's case since twenty twelve. Seven years had passed 679 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.719 of the family begging the case to run cold while 680 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.039 detectives just sat on it. Anyway, I think access to 681 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.599 case files in true crime cases is such an important topic, 682 00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.559 especially after so much time has passed.

Like, I get it, 683 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.000 if there's sensitive information that needs to be held back, 684 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.079 hold it back, but why not let the family look 685 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.639 at it. It's just another pair of eyes, I mean, 686 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:40.280 usually multiple pairs of eyes from someone who knew this 687 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:41.119 person best. 688 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.440 Right at that point, I mean, it can't really hurt, right, 689 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.920 when a case has, you know, long since gone cold, 690 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.440 It can't really hurt to have a pair of fresh 691 00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.599 eyes looking at it, and you know, I personally do 692 00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.320 agree that families should have more access to case files, 693 00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.599 and it's really really sad to think that a lot 694 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:01.039 of them, including Jennifer's family, had to pay to access them. 695 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.360 Yeah, I was stunned. I was stunned when we found 696 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.239 out that they were the first to sue for these 697 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.800 documents and win, Like so many families have tried to 698 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.920 get these documents and have been denied, and it's just 699 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.840 the worst. That's all I can really say about it. Right, 700 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.800 It's you want this information because you want to help, 701 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:20.760 and I think police departments might be a little scared 702 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.000 of you know, what's in there and the repercussions. And 703 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:26.519 I just think all families should get, you know, whatever 704 00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:28.880 they can from these police departments. 705 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.679 Especially in this case when there has been no work 706 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.079 done on the case since twenty twelve. I mean all 707 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.440 that time. It feels like it's almost wasted when the 708 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.320 family could be calmbing through the case files and all 709 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.199 the evidence themselves and seeing what they can do to 710 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.159 help as well. You know, I feel like it can be, 711 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.679 you know, a tough conversation, but personally, I do feel 712 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:48.840 like going through case files, whether it's you know, an 713 00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.400 unsolved case or a solved case. In my personal experience, 714 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.039 it can be very helpful. It can almost be even 715 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.719 if nothing comes from it, maybe a sense of closure 716 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.239 in a way. And I'm not sure with I don't 717 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:01.719 want to take too much away from this case, but 718 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:03.920 you know, in my own personal experience in the true 719 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.159 crime case, you know, somebody in my family that I 720 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.559 was very very close with committed a really brutal crime, 721 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:11.920 and you know, growing up, I wasn't told very much 722 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.400 information about it, and online there were literally like maybe 723 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.519 two news articles about it, so there really wasn't much 724 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.400 to come to grips with, so to speak. So years 725 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.800 later into adulthood, I decided to track down the case 726 00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:27.880 files myself, and once I got them, it was like 727 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.239 stix to seven bins full of information and it really 728 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.719 opened my eyes and kind of helped me process, you know, 729 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.400 the situation, and I feel like more families should have 730 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:38.360 that ability. 731 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.000 Yeah, well, and it helps the case too. Like when 732 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:42.960 I got my sister's case file for the first time, 733 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:46.000 you know, twenty years after she went missing. I remember 734 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.719 going through and reading it and it sparked new memories 735 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.239 and then I was able to go tell the detectives that. 736 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.760 And you know, it's hard to know if it moved 737 00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.719 the case forward, but we know how these things work, right. 738 00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.440 It's like the smallest piece of information leads to another 739 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.960 piece leads to another piece, and that can lead to 740 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:02.719 a big clue. 741 00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.480 Sometimes every little tiny thing it does help, whether you 742 00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:07.360 think it will or not. 743 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:08.039 Yeah. 744 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.599 In twenty nineteen, the family forced the police to follow 745 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.079 up on a lead from those original files. Apparently, ten 746 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:20.079 months after Jennifer's disappearance, police had received a tip someone 747 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.360 in a pickup truck had dumped a six to eight 748 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.960 foot piece of rolled up carpet into a lake not 749 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.440 far from Jennifer's complex. What really struck them was the 750 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.400 workers were laying carpet in a unit across from Jennifer's 751 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.000 around the time she vanished. 752 00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:34.199 I mean, that's huge. 753 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:37.760 It's also really scary to think about. So five years later, 754 00:38:37.920 -->

00:38:40.119 a sonar team was dispatched to the lake to search 755 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:44.199 for any anomalies. Then they sent divers down to examine them, 756 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.639 but the carpet in question was never discovered. 757 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.119 Finally, in twenty twenty two, the case was officially turned 758 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.039 over from the Orlando PD to the Florida Department of 759 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:57.679 Law Enforcements Cold Case Unit. In October twenty twenty five, 760 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.079 Jennifer's father, Drew posted on Facebook that they discovered DNA 761 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.480 in her file that had never been tested, which is 762 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.000 hopeful news, especially considering that the previous efforts to test 763 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:11.559 DNA didn't lead to any results. Still, the family does 764 00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.119 believe that the most likely scenario is that Jennifer was 765 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:18.519 abducted by one of the workers at her complex. I 766 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.199 feel like we see this in true crime all the time. 767 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.920 And again going back to why it's so important to 768 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.199 give these families these case files. It's a fresh set 769 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.320 of eyes and they found something like this is the 770 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.960 exact proof of why these families need these case files. Again, 771 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.239 they don't have to be you know, completely unredacted. Redact 772 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.480 what you need to release what you can and see 773 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:41.480 what you can come up with. 774 00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.440 And it's really unfortunate in this case that so many 775 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.880 years had passed that they could have followed up, that 776 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.320 the police could have followed up on these leads, yet 777 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.599 no one did. The evidence could have potentially been destroyed. 778 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.920 Yeah, the carpet in the lake, I mean, I don't 779 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.519 know exactly the science of what happens to a carpet 780 00:39:57.519 --> 00:39:59.280 in a lake. But I imagine that you know, the 781 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.159 more time that pas, the less opportunity you have to 782 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.960 collect things like DNA any forensic evidence. 783 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:08.840 The one thing that time can bring to an investigation 784 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:12.719 like this is new technology, including new ways to test 785 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:17.360 forensic evidence like DNA. Nowadays we have things like genetic genealogy, 786 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.039 which can link DNA profiles to potential relatives or suspects 787 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:25.840 through public databases. There's more cross collaboration between private labs 788 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.079 for matching data sets. There are also ways to test 789 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.599 smaller samples while gathering more information on a suspect. 790 00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:34.760 I think the part that keeps us all up at 791 00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.960 night wondering over and over again about these cases is 792 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:42.639 those last final moments. What changed? Where did things go wrong? 793 00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.880 Was their fear of pain? Did they fight back? We 794 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:50.400 know that Jennifer Kesse woke up on Tuesday, January twenty fourth, 795 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.559 two thousand and six, feeling hopeful for the future. She 796 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.400 got ready for work that day, did her hair and makeup, 797 00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.079 packed her brother's friend's phone in her bag to send 798 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:03.800 back to him. She was responsible, caring, generous. She was 799 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:07.440 also probably a little uncertain, she just had this beautiful 800 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.400 vacation with her boyfriend. But with the relationship last forever, 801 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.400 they were a long distance. It was tough on them. 802 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:16.840 But Jennifer didn't let that stand in the way of 803 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.159 her own success. She put on a brave face, grabbed 804 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.159 her purse, her phone, and her iPod. She closed the 805 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.760 door behind her that day, ready to get in her car. 806 00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.800 She probably even planned to call Rob like she always 807 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.039 did on her way to work, just to hash it out. 808 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.039 Or maybe she did just take some time for herself 809 00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.639 listen to her favorite song on repeat that day until 810 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.400 she pulled into the office parking lot, ready for what 811 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.440 she was sure would be just another day at work. Instead, 812 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.880 Jennifer Kessey lost everything that morning. No one heard her scream, 813 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.599 no one heard her cry out, and to this day, 814 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.239 no one has any idea what happened after she locked 815 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.960 her door behind her. But we do know that she 816 00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.480 was loved and there are a lot of people who 817 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.119 won't accepit. I don't know for an answer. 818 00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:07.679 This past January marked twenty years since Jennifer's disappearance. She'd 819 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.679 be forty four years old as of this recording. She 820 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.320 has sandy blonde hair is Caucasian and about five foot 821 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.199 eight or nine.

She has a tattoo of a shamrock 822 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.719 on the right side of her buttox, a cleft chin, 823 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.000 and a surgical scar on the left side of her 824 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.280 arm near the elbow. If you have any information about 825 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.440 Jennifer Kesse, you can visit the find Jennifer Kessey Facebook 826 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.079 page or contact your local FBI office. And if you 827 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:34.079 wish to support the Kessi family, you can go to 828 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.960 their gofund me or visit the link on our socials 829 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.159 and in our show notes. 830 00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.039 Thank you for listening to The Final Hours. If you 831 00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.519 have any more information on Jennifer Kessey, share it with 832 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.840 us on social media. We want to hear from you. 833 00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.199 Your thoughts, condolences, and feedback are what make this community 834 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:00.880 so special. 835 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.559 At crime House, we value your support. Share your thoughts 836 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.920 on social media, and remember to rate, review, and follow 837 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.760 The Final Hours. To help others discover the show. 838 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.119 And to enhance your listening experience, subscribe to crime House 839 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.119 Plus on Apple Podcasts. You'll get every episode of The 840 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:20.880 Final Hours add free, along with early access and exciting 841 00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:21.719 bonus content. 842 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.039 The Final Hours is hosted by Sarah Turney and me 843 00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:28.400 according Nicole and is a crime House original powered by 844 00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:31.480 Pave Studios. This episode is brought to life by the 845 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:37.400 Final Hours team, Max Cutler, Ron Shapiro, Alex Benadon, Lori Marinelli, 846 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.400 Natalie Pritsovski, Sarah Camp and Joanna Powell. 847 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.159 We'll be back next week. Thank you for listening. 848 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.400 Make sure you follow the Final Hours with Sarah Turney 849 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.840 and Courtney Nicole so you don't miss the next episode. 850 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.079 Just search the Final Hours wherever you get your podcasts. 851 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.519 There's also a link in the episode description. New episodes 852 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:58.159 drop every Monday, and we'll see you guys next week. 853 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.519 Some crime they're so shocking they don't just make headlines, 854 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.960 they forever change our society. I'm Kater Ring, host of 855 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.199 America's Most Infamous Crimes. Each week, I take on one 856 00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.719 of the most notorious criminal cases, whether it's unfolding now 857 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:16.920 or etched into American history. Serial killers who terrorize cities, 858 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.960 unsolved mysteries that kept detectives up at night, and investigations 859 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.000 that change the way we think about justice. Each case 860 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:28.239 unfolds across multiple episodes, release every Tuesday through Thursday, from 861 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.800 the first sign that something was wrong to the moment 862 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.840 the truth came out or didn't. Listen to and follow 863 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:38.239 America's most infamous crimes on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, 864 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:40.079 or wherever you listen to your podcasts.