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Welcome to the inaugural episode
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of BOMA’s Building Excellence, a CRE podcast.
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This episode is brought to you by Yardi.
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I'm your host, Alan Stein.
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Today we're joined by BOMA
International Chair and Chief Elected Officer,
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Luci Smith, RPA, FMA and BOMA Fellow.
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Luci is the Director, Property Management
for Link Logistics and a longtime member
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of BOMA Orlando, and someone I'm honored
to call a friend for over 20 years.
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Luci, it's great to have you here today.
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Thank you so much, Alan.
I really appreciate it.
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I've been really looking forward
to our discussion today.
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You know, as you know, BOMA’s members
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are managing and owning everything
from industrial, office,
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medical, retail, mixed use,
all of that good stuff, you name it.
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And I come from an industrial background.
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So while we'll talk about
my industrial world, I'll also try to tie
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it back into those other asset
classes as well.
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Awesome.
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And I'm going to touch a little-
talk a little bit today
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also about your time in
your leadership position as well.
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So looking forward to it.
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Well, before we dive in.
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Let's get into the big picture
conversation.
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Let's loosen things up a little bit
and get to know you beyond the title.
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Okay.
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So we'll kick things off
with quick game of rapid fire.
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Are you ready? I'm ready. Let's do it.
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Okay. Morning person or night owl?
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That's the easy one.
Morning person for sure.
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Much better in the morning.
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Favorite weekend activity?
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I like to do anything.
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RV-ing related
I like to camp all over the place.
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We’re in a bunch of different camping groups
and anything with the grandkids.
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Great. First job ever?
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My first real job was the US Army.
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I was a soldier in the US Army.
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I was a Communications Specialist
and that was a at a really critical
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time in my life,
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really taught me a lot
about accountability
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and showing up for my teams,
treating people well.
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So habits
that I've carried on throughout my career.
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There's something that I actually
never knew about you 20 years being friends.
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Thank you for your service.
You're very welcome.
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I got to hold some stuff back, Alan.
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Right.
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One word
your team would use to describe you.
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Steady.
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So I like.
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They might call it boring,
but I call it steady.
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I like to be really consistent
and clear and calm, especially in times
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where there's a lot of chaos going on.
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I like to be the the voice of calm
and reason.
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Great. Favorite food?
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Wine. Can it be wine?
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It can. Okay. Wine it is.
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All right.
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And the last I have to ask this question,
based in Orlando and home of that.
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That big eared mouse.
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Favorite Disney character?
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Well, I really only go to Disney
when I'm going with others.
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I don't go purposely, purposefully.
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So I'm kind of the same way with sports.
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I'm a bandwagoner.
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Whatever they're going to see
or whoever they're going to root for.
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I'm going along with them.
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So don't really have a favorite,
but whatever, whatever you like, I like.
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I actually love that strategy.
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Personally, I'm a Winnie the Pooh fan,
but I kind of like that strategy of,
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you know,
adjusting to the people that you're with
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and what their likes are all right.
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Now that we've got a quick snapshot
of who you are outside
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the office, let's zoom out and talk
a little bit about your career journey
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and specifically the industrial asset
class at large.
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You've had such a dynamic career.
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Can you walk us through your experience
and what ultimately led you to
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where you are today?
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So the majority of my career
has definitely been specializing in
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industrial, but I have managed pretty much
all asset classes at one point,
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maybe not for long periods,
but at some point I have.
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But it has always been grounded
in operations.
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I've always been on the
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on the management side,
assisting asset management sometimes,
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but always making sure that our buildings
are operating the way that they should.
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Our customers are being treated
as top tier customers in the buildings,
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and that my teammates and experiences
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as teammates with me is,
you know, exemplary.
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And they
they're engaged and they want to continue
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exceeding expectations with our customers
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as well as with the company
that we're working for.
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I've learned throughout my career
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that there are lots of ups
and downs in our business,
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and so a lot of adjustments
that need to be made along the way.
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So being really clear
and being really consistent with our teams
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and with our customers and within
the company is absolutely imperative.
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And that's the great thing about BOMA.
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You know, no matter what we're doing,
if it's the apocalypse,
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If it's the pandemic or whatever
it is, BOMA always gives us the tools
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to help operate
in whatever season we happen to be in.
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Yeah.
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I always find it interesting
how these different experiences help shape
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the perspective, especially in in a space
that's evolving as quickly as this one.
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You know, you mentioned it,
which could possibly be it,
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or it might be something else,
but any memory
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or specific time or instance
that most stands out during your career.
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So one that stands out a lot for me,
maybe not for maybe
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millennials and Gen Zs has got to be Y2K,
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the year that we ended up
having to stay overnight in our buildings.
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At that time, I was my office was in
one of our office buildings that we owned.
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Had to stay there
until 1:00, 1:30 in the morning
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just to make sure that the world
did not come to an end.
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I don't know
what I was supposed to do about it
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while I was sitting there in my office,
but I did stay.
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The world
did not come to an end, obviously,
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but it was just one of those things
you don't
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you don't know what you
don't know.
And you know,
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What if those double zeros
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did bring everything to a halt?
I would have been there.
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Yeah.
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I remember that.
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Well, I remember working
that evening as well and just looking,
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wondering what the computer
was going to do when we crossed over 1999.
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That's right, that's right.
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How would you describe the current state
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of industrial and logistics market
as we sit here in 2026?
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So for industrial, we're really
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very fundamentally strong as we-
as we have been for a long time.
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But we're a lot more disciplined,
not just as owners
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and managers, but also as our customers
in the buildings.
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The demand drivers are still there.
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Our customers are still in need of the
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high functioning buildings, easy
to access, easy to operate in,
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and easy to leave from
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so that their business operates
smoothly.
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But this kind of
we’re kind of slowing down a little bit.
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We're not making rapid decisions.
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We're kind of waiting to see
what's going on in the political climate
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with related to tariffs and policy changes
and things like that.
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Not saying no, but just saying, you know,
let's take a pause
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or let's make a smaller decision
or commitment.
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So rather than five,
seven, ten year leases,
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they might be a little bit
shorter term leasing decisions.
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Okay.
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One thing I
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I'm curious about is, you know, when we
we often talk about tenant experience
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in a traditional commercial real estate
building and how important that is.
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How is that customer experience
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showing up differently
in the industrial sector today?
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For industrial, our wow factor is that
the building functions. You can access it, it
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functions well, it serves them well,
it protects them well
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and allows them to continue their
their operations smoothly.
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You know, compare it to office
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where the amenities might be,
something like restaurants and amenities
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within the building or community
events, things like that.
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Ours is more consistent operations,
really good flow
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in and out of the building,
but you know, different expectations
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from the customers, but still the same
where we all want reliability and,
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you know, transparency, responsiveness.
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Everybody wants good response to service
calls and, you know,
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customer related issues.
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Yeah.
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It's interesting to hear
how that, you know, evolution is really,
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you know, redefining the space.
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And it's not just about the space anymore.
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It's about the service,
the efficiency. and the relationships.
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That’s right/
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So with that in mind,
how can industrial property
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managers better leverage
contracting and partnerships
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to stay competitive right now?
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Partner, vendor partnerships are critical
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for any asset class,
any property management team.
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But the best teams are out there
building vendor ecosystems.
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We're not doing Rolodexes.
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We're not just doing “Call Us.”.
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We're not, you know,
not the printout that sits in your
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in your binder
and you call them at 2 A.M..
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It's an entire ecosystem.
We help them. They help us.
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We know that we can rely on them
as a resource. Industrial specifically,
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it might be that we get a faster response
because we do have that relationship
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with our vendor partners.
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And at 3:00 in the morning
when we have a fire alarm,
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we know that we can consistently count
on that vendor partner to come out
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and help us respond to it,
or our emergency response vendor
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to come out
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and help us get a tenant space back up
and running before they open for business
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the following morning.
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In medical, you know, it's
a reliability and compliance.
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Office, it might be a, you know, service
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delivery and amenities, things like that.
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And you know but across all of it
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the competitive advantage is for sure
operational trust.
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It's all about operations.
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Yeah.
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And you know, when you think about it
in these partnerships,
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I've often said, you know, in the
in the commercial real estate space,
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the property/facility manager is so busy
wearing so many different hats
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that they have to rely on these experts,
these vendor strategic partnerships,
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to be the expert for them and bringing,
you know, new, evolving
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latest
and greatest information to the table.
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So what's really cool
about those stronger-
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I'm sorry to interrupt,
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but what's really cool about building
those really strong relationships too
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is that even though, you know, if
if I need something,
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but I don't know who might also
who might have the information,
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but I know Alan might know somebody.
So I can rely on that, that contact
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or that vendor partnership to point me in
the right direction. It might be something
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completely different than what,
you know, the person's business is.
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But I know that they interact
with that service
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somehow and might have
an additional contact.
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So again, it's an ecosystem.
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Yeah.
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And it really shows how the partnerships
continue to trend more towards
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less transactional, more strategic,
which really ties into some of the bigger
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forces really shaping the industry today.
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Absolutely.
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And it's across
all asset classes for sure.
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Asset types.
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Okay.
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Now let's talk about a topic
that's really top of mind for everyone
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right now, AI.
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AI and data centers
are driving massive demand right now.
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And how is that impacting
industrial real estate specifically
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when it comes to infrastructure
and the electrical grid?
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So, picture when you got your first home
or your first apartment
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and you walked in the door
and you just expected
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you flipped on the light switch
and the lights were you're going to move
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in all of your equipment
and all of your furniture.
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Everything's in there and you plug it
in. You expect everything to work.
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You've got the service that you need
in order to exist in the space.
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So it was just an assumed thing.
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So kind of like a background assumption,
if you will.
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And now it's way more front page
assumption.
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So it's discussions at the very beginning
with prospective customers what power is
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provided to the building.
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What is the backup plan
if that power happens to to go out?
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Do we have any redundancy
and supply to the building?
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What's the capacity for the building
if I want to grow my business?
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And if I want to expand in the building,
what are the
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what are the capabilities
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that you, building owner,
can provide to us? Or at least help us
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obtain from the local utilities
and have installed in the building.
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There's also a less obvious, but
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a very present demand driver
in that the companies that are building
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the data centers, some of the equipment
that they are needing for those,
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those facilities have a 100
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to 150 week
lead time, not days, but week lead time.
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So these companies
are buying things in bulk.
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So the overspill of that
comes to industrial,
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because they need a place to store
all of that bulk purchase.
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And then they come to our facilities
and draw from it to go
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and build their data facility.
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So it's not something
that's obvious at first,
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but when you think about it,
it has to happen.
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Otherwise, these data centers will take
years and years to get them built.
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And clearly we need
the data centers.
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And then we also need
the additional utility services
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out there to be able
to support the new data centers.
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Talk about
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an area that's going to be just constantly
evolving and changing, you know,
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and you know, something that everybody is
top of mind for everyone.
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And, you know, it's going to be so important,
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especially to watch how it plays out
in the commercial real estate space.
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Yeah, we're really excited
that BOMA international is focusing on
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permitting reform with our legislators
and really giving a good, strong voice
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from our point of view on Capitol Hill
and helping make things
smoother
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and a little bit more expedient when you
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It's not just building
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Speaking of BOMA International,
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let's now
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talk about that, that small volunteer
responsibility that you're coming to
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to the end of, as BOMA International Chair
and Chief Elected Officer.
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First, let me segue
by telling my favorite Luci
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learning moment for 2025-26.
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And it's taking care
of your flight attendants.
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So you know, I don't remember
exactly when I want to feel like
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it was in fall of last year.
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You know, your travel was really ramping
up, visiting all the locals.
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And any idea how many locals you visited?
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You know,
I haven't kept track of all of them.
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It's more than two hands.
Haven't kept track of all of them,
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but every single one has been an absolute
blast.
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Yeah. That's awesome.
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But anyway, so
so the post you made was talked
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about always taking care
of your flight attendants, and I loved it.
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I said,
oh my God, that that can go so far.
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And they do so much.
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And you know, I often
think about just how crazy these jobs are
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that they're that they are
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they're flying back and forth
from city to city on these planes.
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You know,
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it's hard enough
for us to fly from city to city,
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let alone they do this for living.
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And so, you know,
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as I started
getting the knocks on the door
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from the local Girl Scouts, I said,
this is a great opportunity.
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So every Girl Scout that came to the door.
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I bought ten boxes and I
now I'm probably down to about 30 boxes
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now, but at one point
I had 50 boxes sitting in my kitchen
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and when I go to the-
on the flight.
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I'm leaving again tomorrow.
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I'm taking three boxes with me
and going to be, you know,
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I usually give them a choice and
they always end up with all three anyway.
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But talk just,
you know, the smile on their face,
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just the feeling of appreciation.
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So thank you for that.
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That learning moment this year.
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Absolutely. And thanks for thinking ahead
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and doing it. Mine is usually much more
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spur of the
moment purchases and providing to them,
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but I'm sure that they appreciate
you thought of them ahead of time.
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That's great. Yeah.
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So you mentioned traveling
to more than more
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than two handfuls of locals,
and you've met with, I'm sure,
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dozens, hundreds,
maybe even of members in doing that.
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What would you say
is the one like thing
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that's constantly
top of mind for the membership right now?
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You know, every single local,
and it's not even just with BOMA,
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it’s with the Real Estate Roundtable,
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it’s all of the other
association meetings that we go to,
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probably in the top two:
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It's either AI or its workforce
development. Workforce capacity
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and capability,
finding the talent, keeping the talent,
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and transferring knowledge from people
who have held those roles for so long.
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Transferring the knowledge down
to the newer ones that are have joined
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the association or the company
or what have you, and transferring
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that knowledge down.
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We're dealing with recruitment
challenges.
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We're dealing with,
still dealing with back to office,
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working back in the office.
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And, you know, some people
preferring the hybrid or remote work only.
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Succession planning and upskilling.
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People who come into the industry
from completely outside the industry,
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they never planned
to be in property management.
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And so this is something completely new.
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All of the words are new,
all of the work is new.
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So but what I really like
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is that each and every place
that I've talked with and,
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and we've tried to work through this
with,
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they all had the same idea in mind
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and have a word, have very specific
requests.
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Rather, you know, they're
looking for ways to improve mentorship.
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They're looking for clearer career
pathways
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on the engineering side,
as well as the property management side,
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and ways to make the industry
more visible to younger professionals.
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So, you know, how much earlier do
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we need to get out there in front of them
to make them aware of this career path?
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So and this is for
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industrial, office, medical, all of the asset types.
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And again at property management
and engineering, both of those career
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paths are struggling
to get people to come in.
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A lot of Baby Boomers are retiring
and not as many Gen Xs
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Oh sorry, Gen Zs
or you know, soon to be coming into the
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the market workforce is Generation Alpha
and just not as many as are leaving so.
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Any words of wisdom you know
from your perspective on how organizations
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can better bridge that divide
and create stronger, more connected teams?
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It's one of my favorite things
to talk about when I
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when I go to the locals, the
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the generational divide or gap or whatever
you want to call it, revolution.
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There we go, Generational revolution.
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The again, bringing the information
from
someone who's been in a position
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for a really long time
and bringing it down to the newer, newer
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or even entry level team members
that are in there is absolutely critical,
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whether you do it digitally
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or if you do it,
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peer-to-peer mentorship or job shadowing,
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Whatever you want to call it,
however you need to get it done.
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It has to happen.
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There's no other way for this
new group coming in to be successful
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if they don't have the data
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and the information
that they need to make them successful.
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When companies
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focus on making sure that that data
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transfer does happen and does it
consistently, it's not just onboarding
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the first two weeks
that you come into your job
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or into your company, but it's
consistently throughout your career.
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They're going to be wildly successful
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and have a much better culture
within their company and much more
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loyalty from the team members
that they hire.
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And that knowledge, knowledge transfer
as I like to call it.
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is so critical.
So critical in that transition.
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You know, it is funny because everybody,
everybody, every company
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has that person that, you know,
you can go to and say, “You know what?
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I remember a few years ago we did this
and but I can't find it on my computer.
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Anybody have any idea where it is?”
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And that guy or that girl
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turn around and grab that three ring
binder off the bookcase behind them?
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Says, “Yep. Here it is. Right here.
It's on page 72, in the book.”
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But had that person not been there,
it would have been a little bit
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more difficult to find
or it would have to be recreated.
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So yeah.
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Very true, very true.
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So looking back,
let's reflect back on your time
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as it's coming to an end in the next,
next month or so.
00:22:00.919 --> 00:22:05.157
as Chair and CEO of BOMA international,
what are you most proud of?
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So you got a cue
the Party's Over song now, right?
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That's going to
be playing in the background.
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I'm really super proud of how
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we have gone out to all of our locals,
and we've really listened.
00:22:15.834 --> 00:22:21.139
We've given our locals
a voice from members, from the BAEs,
00:22:21.139 --> 00:22:25.911
from our vendor partners,
service partners, all that good stuff.
00:22:25.911 --> 00:22:29.881
Even the places where we hold our events,
getting a little bit more feedback
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from them on what's
going on at conferences and trade shows
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and what are the growing themes
that they’re seeing out there.
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Super helpful for all of us
at BOMA International and as members.
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And that's everywhere.
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It's a industrial, office, and medical,
but where we're-
00:22:49.701 --> 00:22:52.938
where everything has been
a little bit wonky.
00:22:52.938 --> 00:22:58.143
You know, the wave, the up and down
wave. The stability, I think is what
00:22:58.276 --> 00:23:02.381
BOMA International is really offering back
to our memberships across the board.
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We all have the same North Star.
00:23:03.882 --> 00:23:05.951
We all know the things
that we want to accomplish.
00:23:05.951 --> 00:23:09.154
We're all part of the strategic plan
and every local is doing it
00:23:09.154 --> 00:23:10.322
just a little bit different.
00:23:10.322 --> 00:23:11.556
But they're all getting to
00:23:11.556 --> 00:23:15.694
the same North Star and it's really,
really interesting and exciting to me
00:23:15.761 --> 00:23:21.133
to see how people are creative and
how they all get to get to that same spot.
00:23:22.234 --> 00:23:23.301
Yeah.
00:23:23.301 --> 00:23:23.935
That's great.
00:23:23.935 --> 00:23:24.336
That's great.
00:23:24.336 --> 00:23:27.172
You’ve really done
so much in such a short period of time,
00:23:27.172 --> 00:23:29.708
which is which is just so awesome,
so awesome.
00:23:29.708 --> 00:23:34.746
And helping to just continue
to evolve an organization
00:23:34.780 --> 00:23:37.783
that you and I
are both very passionate about.
00:23:37.783 --> 00:23:39.985
Yeah. Yeah. Highly recommend it.
00:23:39.985 --> 00:23:40.752
Yeah.
00:23:40.752 --> 00:23:44.923
So as you prepare for this transition,
what would be the one piece of advice
00:23:44.923 --> 00:23:47.959
that you would give to your incoming CEO,
Kjersten Jaeb?
00:23:48.260 --> 00:23:49.995
You know,
Kjersten’s going to do a great job.
00:23:49.995 --> 00:23:54.433
I'm really excited about seeing her
stepping in at the end of June.
00:23:54.433 --> 00:23:58.670
My advice would be to continue
to keep the members voice
00:23:58.670 --> 00:23:59.905
at the center of everything.
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Everything we do is to promote and advance
00:24:03.975 --> 00:24:07.078
our community, our profession.
00:24:07.078 --> 00:24:10.916
And we've got to listen to what it is
that the members are asking for
00:24:10.916 --> 00:24:11.616
and what the members
00:24:11.616 --> 00:24:15.387
are needing out in their communities
and helping provide that to them.
00:24:15.387 --> 00:24:19.391
Whether it's Deep Dives or white papers
or in-person visits,
00:24:19.424 --> 00:24:22.861
strategic planning, board processes,
whatever it is
00:24:22.861 --> 00:24:27.332
that they need to make their locals
and their members successful.
00:24:29.634 --> 00:24:30.135
That's great.
00:24:30.135 --> 00:24:31.636
She's going to do a great job as well.
00:24:31.636 --> 00:24:32.571
She is.
00:24:32.571 --> 00:24:34.906
It's going to be a lot of fun
watching her.
00:24:34.906 --> 00:24:35.674
All right.
00:24:35.674 --> 00:24:39.711
So to wrap things up,
if there's one thing you want listeners,
00:24:39.744 --> 00:24:43.715
to take away from this moment
in the industry, what would it be?
00:24:46.051 --> 00:24:49.421
This moment that we're in right
now is a moment of reinvention.
00:24:49.421 --> 00:24:55.560
This is a really great opportunity
for all of us to optimize what we do
00:24:55.594 --> 00:24:59.631
as a profession
and in our different asset types.
00:24:59.798 --> 00:25:02.334
It's a very positive thing.
00:25:02.334 --> 00:25:07.138
And again, it's an opportunity.
You know, industrial’s optimizing
00:25:07.138 --> 00:25:11.309
for reliability and scale
for all different types of users.
00:25:11.376 --> 00:25:15.080
Office is redefining value
and the customer experience.
00:25:15.580 --> 00:25:18.550
Retail is really sharpening
their revelance.
00:25:18.750 --> 00:25:20.652
I’d said “revelance.”
00:25:20.652 --> 00:25:21.453
It’s relevance.
00:25:22.654 --> 00:25:26.057
Sorry, I don't know why that word
is a tongue twister for me. It is.
00:25:26.291 --> 00:25:29.661
And medical is raising the bar
on resilience and trust.
00:25:29.661 --> 00:25:30.629
And you know,
00:25:30.629 --> 00:25:34.432
the common denominator is owners
and managers who run their buildings
00:25:34.432 --> 00:25:35.600
really, really well:
00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:38.970
They invest wisely
and they care for the people.
00:25:39.070 --> 00:25:42.741
Those are the ones
that are going to succeed and
00:25:42.741 --> 00:25:45.744
will lead going forward.
00:25:46.578 --> 00:25:48.480
That's wonderful. That's great.
00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.951
Luci thank you so much for your sharing,
your insights, your experience.
00:25:52.984 --> 00:25:55.520
You know, I’ve really
enjoyed our time together today.
00:25:55.520 --> 00:25:58.790
Really I've enjoyed every time
we've gotten together to break bread
00:25:58.790 --> 00:26:01.793
many times over the last 20 years or so.
00:26:01.893 --> 00:26:05.230
Well, I can't wait to see you in June
in Long Beach.
00:26:05.330 --> 00:26:07.032
Really looking forward to that.
00:26:07.032 --> 00:26:12.170
And then we'll be able to say bye to Luci
and hello to Kjersten.
00:26:13.004 --> 00:26:14.739
I'll still be around, I promise!
00:26:15.273 --> 00:26:17.475
Yeah, I have no doubt.
00:26:18.476 --> 00:26:21.379
A big thank you to our sponsor today, Yardi.
00:26:21.813 --> 00:26:27.319
And thank you to everyone for listening
to BOMA’s Building Excellence, a CRE podcast series.
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:29.754
Where the conversation doesn't stop
00:26:29.754 --> 00:26:31.523
and the industry keeps moving forward.
00:26:32.023 --> 00:26:33.058
Until next time,
00:26:33.291 --> 00:26:35.727
this is Alan Stein, signing off.