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WEBVTT 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:10.560 Welcome everyone to Bitches in Heat, a podcast where middle-aged hotties bitch about perimenopause, menopause, and the shit that surrounds it. 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:13.199 Also, hotties, there will be swearing. 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:18.960 So maybe wear headphones or go in a different room if you've got kiddos and sensitive ears. 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.480 But do grab a glass of your favorite beverage besties. 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:23.440 I'm Marni. 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:24.399 I'm Dom. 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:28.480 And today we are bitching about weight gain. 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:35.439 And just to be clear, we are not medical professionals, and our advice should not be construed as such. 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:45.439 So, if you have any medical questions, go see your OB/GYN or your menopause specialist and tell them we sent you. 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:46.479 Mm-hmm. 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:52.560 So, uh we we forgot to say who are we and what are we drinking today? 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:54.960 Who are we and what are we drinking? 00:00:54.490 --> 00:00:54.960 Yeah. 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:56.880 Well, I am Dom. 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:02.159 I am here in the Northeast where it's humid as fuck. 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.760 And I am drinking rose from the corner store down the street. 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:10.159 And I am Marni. 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:11.359 I'm in the DC area. 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:16.079 I have already been through menopause and I'm on the post-menopause side. 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:25.040 Um, so I am helping Dom get through her menopause journey with grace and lots of uh swearing. 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:29.680 And I am drinking Kim Crawford Sauvignon Blanc, as I like to do. 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:30.640 Delicious. 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:31.280 Yes. 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:47.040 Uh Marni is my perimenopause Yoda, and basically has been helping me for the last almost four years as I've been going through this journey and has been more help to me than any fucking doctor. 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:48.480 I'm honored. 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:50.159 Cheers to you. 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:50.879 Cheers to you. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:51.680 Cheers. 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:54.239 So, Marni. 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:55.200 Yes. 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.200 fucking weight gain. 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:58.319 Oh my god. 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:00.000 Can we just talk about this for a minute? 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.719 Yeah, we're gonna talk about for this for like a half an hour, actually. 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:04.079 Yeah, we're gonna talk about it. 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:08.800 So, menopausal weight gain fucking sucks. 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:10.960 Fucking sucks. 00:02:10.960 --> 00:03:05.680 And like it feels like your whole life you and in our patriarchal society, we have been taught that, like, oh, you're supposed to be like spelt and have a washboard stomach, and everything that you see in every um every magazine is about how you can lose weight, and it's a gigantic money suck to the entire population, and half of the world who is assigned female at birth is gonna go through this, and it is a completely natural transition, but we've been we've been fooled into thinking that we are not supposed to gain weight, and it doesn't feel good, it doesn't like we feel uh less than because everybody's like, oh you know, once you got to this point, you let yourself go. 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.080 No, it's not that at all. 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:28.080 And and let's start our bitch sesh here because um it is a completely natural transition for us to have a pooch in our lower belly because once we start losing estrogen, our body goes, Oh, um, the fat cells can make things that are like estrogen. 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:34.240 Why don't we just move to the center and we can we can take care of that extra estrogen drop for you? 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:39.120 And it is so frustrating for us. 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:46.000 Um, I went through my menopause transition and went through menopause during the pandemic. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:04:01.520 And it was uh so 2019 was my very last period, and 2020 in April of 2020 was when I hit my menopause, uh, my menopause day. 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:06.000 So menopause, as we've said before on this podcast, is one day. 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.080 It is menopause is just one day. 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:13.199 It is the year anniversary of the last of your last period. 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:29.600 Um, and so I, because it was the pandemic, was sitting on my couch scrolling through nightmare fuel and ending up like not moving my body. 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:38.800 Uh, my cortisol was through the roof, not just because of my menopause, but also because the world was ended, as far as we knew. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:48.720 You know, like we were all gonna be out, you know, taken out by this mysterious illness that was going around taking everybody out from the world. 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:52.639 Like a million people in the United States alone, just you know. 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.360 So I have a kiddo. 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.040 My husband is a frontline worker, he works in grocery stores. 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:06.240 So, like, he's not he's not healthcare, but he had to go to work every day during the during the pandemic. 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:27.279 So between the worry about him, the worry about the kid, the worry about the world, the worry about myself, yeah, because like you know, my husband was going to work every day and then bringing home God knows what, you know, they they had shirts made that said everybody stay six feet apart and thank you for, you know, taking care of us. 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:31.439 But people, workers, grocery store workers were dying. 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:36.000 And and it was it was an incredibly stressful time. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:44.560 Um, so so at this same time,

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I was hitting my menopause day, and I was like, fuck. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:57.839 Um, I remember growing up thinking, you know, like I would eat crackers and drink water from a Diet Coke can when I was in high school because I was obsessed with my weight. 00:05:57.839 --> 00:05:59.680 I was a cheerleader. 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.079 I was like, oh I'm an actor. 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:13.839 So like I was obsessed with trying to hit this um this unattainable beauty standard that we are fed from the time we are this big now, right? 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:27.600 Um so I was always told growing up that if you're five feet tall, you should be a hundred pounds, and for every inch over five feet, you should add five more pounds on after that. 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:32.000 And so I'm I've I'm short, I'm five foot two. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:37.600 I know you the so for those of you only listening, Dom's face is hysterical right now. 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:39.759 She's making this face like, what the fuck? 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:41.759 I have no, I have no words. 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:43.600 I have no, I have no words. 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.319 Maybe I wasn't meant for an audio only media. 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:51.600 Or maybe it's best that I'm an audio only medium. 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:53.680 Oh my gosh, no, it's it's hysterical. 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:58.319 It's like her eyes are just like, what are you saying? 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:04.160 Um, so that was what was told to us in all the magazines, Cosmo and 17 and whatever. 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:18.480 And I remember hearing this story about I'm I'm looking at this little cat rescue on the corner of my screen, which Dom can't see right now, but there's a Siamese cat looking at-- looking out like, "what. 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:25.040 the fuck." I'll see if I can post that on our Instagram or something. 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:36.879 Um, but I remember reading a story about a woman who was five foot two and 150 pounds, and I was like, oh my god, how did she get to be 150 pounds? 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.279 And like thinking, oh my god, my God. 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.720 Rebecca says, I'm hungrier for everything but especially carbs. 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:43.279 Yep. 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:47.199 Listening to her pizza for dinner because fuck it. 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:47.519 Yes. 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:55.040 If I money suck at mind fuck, fucking weight gain, Adrienne says, Yes, yes, fucking weight gain. 00:07:55.040 --> 00:08:00.800 So and for context, I am now the heaviest I've ever been. 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:04.240 I'm five foot two and 170 pounds. 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:14.639 But like when I look at myself, when I look at my face, I don't feel like I mean, like, if I look at pictures of myself, I'm like, holy cow. 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:20.560 But uh, but it's just because I don't uh look like what I think I look like. 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:28.800 And we've been brainwashed to

think that we're supposed to be this skinny little mini, and it's ridiculous. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.759 It's ridiculous, it's not supposed to be that way. 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:41.840 Um, and uh the old thing of calories in, calories out, you know, like just eat less and exercise more. 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.720 It does not work for a menopausal body. 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:45.440 Yeah. 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:52.159 Um, I just started this amazing thing, and I'll I'll have to put a link to it uh in the chat. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:09:09.120 It is um healthy eating and healthy exercise for menopausal bodies um that is because your body gets used to a certain amount of calories, and it's like, okay, so this is the new normal. 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:16.720 So it's it's still gonna do what it's gonna do and try to exist at that lower calorie rate. 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:28.639 And most people that I know are eating healthily and and menopausal bodies are still going, oh, let me add on some more pounds because you need this because you don't have any estrogen. 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.120 But it fucking sucks. 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:38.559 It fucking sucks from a mental standpoint, a mental standpoint, right? 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:45.600 Um, so you can uh eat fewer carbs and still gain weight, you can eat more protein and still gain weight. 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:59.759 You can it is not the same as studies that are done on healthy, young uh bodies who were born uh who were assigned male at birth, which is what most health studies are done on. 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:01.600 Yep, it's not the same. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.440 Okay, go for it, Dom. 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:04.960 Pitch pitch away. 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:13.039 So for me, I have been an athlete for most of most of my life. 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:13.919 Oh wow. 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:18.879 So I, you know, was we'll just start with college. 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:24.399 I was an ath-- athlete as a child and in high school as well, but I ran compet-- competitively in college. 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:30.720 I was in a dance company uh in my 20s and early 30s, I competed in martial arts. 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:40.720 Um and so I have always been considered myself strong and fit. 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:47.759 Um and because of the activities, and I was also a rock climber for over a decade. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:48.320 Wow. 00:10:48.559 --> 00:11:00.000 And so, like, because of these activities, like I also fueled myself well and um just naturally my like I was just very in tune with my body. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.080 I knew my vessel. 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:06.639 I knew my vessel for most of my adulthood. 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:10.240 And I knew what it needed, I could tell what it needed. 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:14.480 Um, I could tell when I needed protein, I could tell when I needed grains. 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:36.080 And my recovery time, if I was injured, or if I was wasn't

so bad unless it was a really serious injury, or if I took some time off and got a little what I at the time considered out of shape, I usually bounced back relatively quickly up until I was about 38 or 39 years old. 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:53.039 And then even with my physical activity not changing drastically, and my diet not changing drastically, I started to gain weight. 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:59.759 I was a runner still, I was still rock climbing, I was still physically, I was lifting weights. 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:04.720 Everybody talks about also lifting weights is really important for us, especially at this in this age group. 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:09.360 I was lifting weights and doing cardio, I was doing all of it. 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.679 And but my body started changing, and I'm like, what the fuck is happening? 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:25.840 And it was slow and it was kind of insidious because at first it was just like, oh, it's taking me a little bit longer to recover from this hard workout, and then it was, huh. 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.879 My pants aren't fitting the way they used to fit. 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:39.120 And then within the last couple of years, a mutual friend of ours called it, calls it the thickening. 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:49.120 Yes, and it's like the title of a horror book, and that's literally what it felt like over the last, I would say, two years. 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.559 I feel like I went through the thickening. 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:53.519 "The thickening." 00:12:54.000 --> 00:13:09.120 And I jumped I never really actually paid much attention to the scale for because for me was how my performing in my sport, but I started to pay attention and I jumped almost 30 pounds over the last two years. 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:14.960 And I was like, what the fuck is happening? 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:31.279 Now I will say too, because my sleep has been fucked, my energy level has been fucked, and because my recovery time with injuries has been taking longer, I haven't been able to be as active as I used to be even four or five years ago. 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:31.759 Yeah. 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.679 Because I keep hurting myself. 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.519 Yeah... Oh m-- 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.639 The simplest exercise, you're not even an exercise. 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.720 I threw my back out getting off the toilet at three in the morning from crying. 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.080 Oh my god, I hurt my back last night from just like turning around. 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:49.360 It was the worst. 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:57.840 I turned to get off the toilet at three in the morning last spring, and I legit threw my back out and had to go to the chiropractor for a-- 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.080 Oh my god, I'm so sorry. 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:04.480 Anyhow, so it's like it's like I go through, I'm going, I go through this thickening. 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.279 I feel like I'm still going through this thickening. 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.759 And, you know, and again, listen to the first episode. 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:13.759 You'll hear my doctor horror story. 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:22.559 But as I was telling the doctors, I keep I'm gaining weight, and I don't nothing in my lifestyle has changed, but I'm gaining weight. 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.960 And they just test my thyroid. 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.320 Oh my god. 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.399 And it came back normal. 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.600 Of course, because it has nothing to do with your thyroid. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.639 And then they're like, so like, they're like, so what are you eating? 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:36.080 Like, how much activity are you doing? 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:40.799 And I'm like, I can guarantee you, I'm probably more active than your average patient. 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:41.519 Yeah. 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.440 And I'm just like, it was just so, it was so frustrating. 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:51.039 And honestly, what was more frustrating was the doctors not actually helping me more than the weight gain. 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:59.919 But it is fucking expensive because then I start buying more clothes, new clothes, which also I mean dopamine hit, but at the same time, it's like, ugh, I know. 00:14:59.919 --> 00:15:08.399 But also like the weight gain has sucked, but what for me has sucked more is like not feeling very strong anymore physically. 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.360 Do you know what I mean? 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:21.039 I totally combination of not knowing my body, of looking in the mirror and being like, okay, this is the new normal. 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:23.279 We're gonna get used to this. 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:30.320 And buying new clothes and like that sort of like those jeans are never gonna fit again. 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:51.440 Um, but I have I have an amazing um fitness and nutrition coach that I have seen on and off for the last 10 years, and she and I are around the same age, and I hadn't been hadn't worked with her for a couple of years, and I reached out actually about a month ago, and my my legit message was I don't know my body anymore. 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:59.200 Yeah, and I don't like how it feels, and I don't like how it looks right now. 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:11.759 I'm not looking to get skinny, and I'm not looking to look like I looked at 25, but I would like to start feeling stronger again, and I'd like to feel comfortable in my skin. 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:12.799 Can you help me? 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:24.480 Yeah, I think that's the thing that that I hate the most is the the discomfort because we can talk all day long about the internalized misogyny of having a larger body. 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:26.879 Like that's just like that. 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:28.799 We have been brainwashed. 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:35.519 And actually, um uh Rebecca said earlier that Diet Culture did a number on Gen X and

Millennials. 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:39.039 Yes, yep, and um Adrienne said, Oh yeah, Gen X was fucked. 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.480 Can't leave the table until the plate is clean, but also be model thin. 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.240 Oh, let me add to that too. 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.559 I grew up, I'm half Asian and I'm half Italian. 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:48.639 I'm half Filipino and half Italian, okay? 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:53.200 So legit, like Dom, eat more, eat more. 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.639 Dom, you gained a couple pounds, huh? 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.679 My whole fucking life. 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:05.200 Quick story senior year of high school, graduation, my Filipino grandmother. 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:08.720 Oh, Dominic, you got the booby. 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:11.119 How much have you been eating? 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:18.000 Literally what she said at brunch at a restaurant with my high school boyfriend there. 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:18.960 Oh dear god. 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:25.680 I'm just gonna know in sweet 16 when the grandma goes and like feels up-- feels up Molly Ringwald. 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:27.920 Oh, yes! 16 candles, right? 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.839 16 candles, 16 candles, yeah. 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:32.720 Yeah, I that was my 16 candles moment. 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.960 Oh my god, I'm so sorry. 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:46.960 So yeah, so mis misogyny, patriarchy, but also culture influences our perceptions of our bodies and what is considered attractive and healthy. 00:17:46.960 --> 00:18:00.319 Um but it also, you know, it also goes for like even if you know, even if you don't gain a ton of weight, but your body's still changing, you're carrying weight in different places on your body. 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:00.720 Yes. 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.880 Or you're getting injured more. 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.640 Like, I feel like that's all it's all connected. 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:08.799 And it fucking sucks. 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.000 It fucking sucks. 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:19.440 Yeah, it is all connected, and it is also a normal part of aging, unfortunately, for those of us who have been raised to think that we shouldn't look this way. 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:32.640 Um, it's it, you know, your your fat cells go to your booty and your thighs in early life because that's uh your body getting ready to be fertile. 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:44.240 And then, you know, once you don't have the estrogen anymore, it's like all the fat cells move migrate to the apple body, and it's not not great for your internal organs either. 00:18:44.240 --> 00:19:04.160 But it's also there the things that we've been raised to think are the answer for that don't work, and so it's a mind fuck, and it's also it it is making us feel like we're doing the wrong thing and we're not. 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:08.640 Um, Adrienne says, so glad for newer role models like Alona Mar. 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:20.799 Uh, Rebecca says also

we have been told that weight gain is always due to personal choices, willpower, morality, and that our weight gain is a personal failure when in fact a lot of it is hormones, genetics, and stress. 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:22.160 Hundred percent. 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:22.480 Yeah. 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.839 So Patricia says, yeah to that pizza because you fucking deserve it, Rebecca. 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:26.640 Oh, yeah. 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.799 Um, or you're perpetually constipated, Patricia says. 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:31.920 That's the one that threw me off. 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:32.640 Yes. 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:46.799 Like you have to get, you have to have so much more, you have to have so much more water intake because the your the lack of estrogen is sucking all the the liquid, all the moisture out of your body. 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:50.240 And so, and that includes everywhere. 00:19:50.240 --> 00:20:07.759 It's your skin, it's your um your vaginal moisture, it's your um your eyes, your mouth, your uh your colon, like your your intestines, your colon, all of that is you don't have the moisture that you used to have because your estrogen is down. 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.039 Um so you have to-- 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:11.279 That's also going to be another episode. 00:20:10.970 --> 00:20:15.200 whole, a whole 'nother-- dryness, dryness everywhere is a whole 'nother episode. 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:34.880 But um, electrolytes and and a larger uptake in water um helps the uh and uh side note for buoy, which is the electrolytes that I like a lot because there's no extra um uh no extra sugars in it. 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.240 There's no sugars in it. 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.799 Um, so it's just the electrolytes. 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.319 They have one called digestive help or something. 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:48.079 It's uh look for Buoy.com and I'll-- I'll put a a link in the show notes. 00:20:48.079 --> 00:21:02.960 I think I have a an affiliate link or something, um, but it'll give you a discount on your first thing-- And if you have um, uh, like a ... [GUFFAWS] brain fog is real! 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:03.279 Brain fog! 00:21:02.980 --> 00:21:14.240 That's gonna be a whole 'nother thing. Brain fog moment! Um, if you have a uh like a what's the thing where you have an illness and it's all the time and like, uh... 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:15.599 chronic illness? 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:17.279 Thank you, chronic illness. 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:26.079 They have uh 35% off discount for life if you have a chronic illness and and anxiety counts, ADHD counts. 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.000 And it's been helping me so much. 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:42.240 They have a brain health one that is I'll say it again during our our brain fog episode, but um, it's got neurotropics in it, and then the one digestive health one has fennel in it. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.920 So, Patricia, you might really, really help this might really, really help you. 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:50.880 Um, it has fennel in it, which relaxes the uh your intestines. 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:55.119 Again, we're not doctors, but it's been helping me when I feel bound up. 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:56.799 This uh electrolytes from Buoy. 00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.759 Digestive health helps, yes. 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:00.640 Yes, yes. 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:01.920 I will put it in the show notes. 00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:06.480 And Patricia, since I know you all said, I'll send you the link individually. 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.920 But I-- I use that in every single beverage that I drink during the day. 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:17.680 I either use the hydration drops or I use if I'm having a particularly bad day because I also have celiac disease. 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:27.920 And if I have like and I have other um intestinal upset from digestive issues, um if I'm having a particularly bad day, I use the rescue drops. 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:34.480 And that's a higher concentration of electrolytes and it helps me absorb the water better. 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.240 Um, but yeah, yeah. 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:47.680 So there's all different uh electrolytes, but for your specifically for the moisture intake, for the the water intake, the electrolytes help a lot. 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:48.480 Yeah. 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:49.119 I mean, I use-- 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:50.160 Where did I *start* with that? 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:50.960 Anyway, go ahead. [LAUGHS] 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:58.319 So like I use-- I use um I use element for hydration for electrolytes. 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:01.680 Um it tastes pretty salty, but I'm like I'm pretty addicted to it. 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.599 However, I really love what you're talking about with buoy. 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:08.720 Um so I'm gonna buoy. 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:14.160 I want to check that out though, because that just sounds magnificent. 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.000 So I I feel like tasteless. 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Um oh and Patricia, you have an autoimmune disease, so this will be great. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.440 Oh my gosh, yeah. 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:31.039 Seriously, and also like all you know, again, bring it up with your doctors too, you know, if it's something that you're not sure you can have. 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.039 Um hashtag not doctors. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:35.680 We're not doctors, we're not doctors. 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:41.839 I feel like we've already gone past the "help me, Auntie M" and let's go on to Hotties -in-chief recommendations. 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:43.200 Yes. 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:48.720 Um, so one of the things, I'll go back to help me and for just a second because I just learned this. 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:58.319 Um, so uh the weight gain, there are like three different um segments that it comes from. 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:04.319 And uh I'm gonna pull this up on my my photos because I did take a uh photo of it.

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:20.799 Um it is like uh there are, there it is, um, inflammation, cortisol and sleep and gut health are the three things that contribute to um menopause symptoms overall. 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:23.039 Those are like three big buckets. 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:29.279 And so, like joint pain and hot flashes and vaginal dryness, uh, skin changes, night sweats, it all goes into inflammation. 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:36.319 Cortisol or sleep is like fatigue, broken sleep, muscle soreness, restless leg syndrome, which I know you have, Dom. 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:40.559 And then gut health, it brain fog actually comes from your gut health. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:48.160 Trouble focusing, bloating, uh, your bowel movements, lack of motivation, feeling like flat. 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.880 It all comes from your gut health. 00:24:50.880 --> 00:25:01.359 Um, and again, shout out to my my nutritionist, uh, Christine Marie uh Rogers from Nourish, and I'll put her in the chat again or in the uh show notes again. 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:11.440 Um she has taught me all of this about like a lot of the things that go on in your brain come start in your gut. 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:23.839 And if your gut health, if your gut flora is damaged or your gut health is damaged, then it can affect your brain, your mood, your um your brain fog, all of this, the sleep. 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:28.160 Um, so yeah, inflammation, cortisol, and gut health. 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:32.559 If you can address those, it can start to help your symptoms. 00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:38.000 No matter what the symptoms are, they generally fall into one of those buckets. 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:39.279 Amazing. 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:46.480 And there's somebody who uh has a a good course about this, and I'll see if I can remember who it is. 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.319 I'll put it that in the show notes too. 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:53.119 But there's a course about teaching you about those three different buckets and how you can help. 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:54.640 Oh, very cool. 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.079 And it speaks to the weight gain, so it's perfect for this particular episode. 00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:58.720 Oh, perfect. 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:13.279 And so I would imagine too, with each of those three buckets, I'm sure there are medicinal ways, but also nutritional ways and lifestyle, lifestyle things that we can perhaps do to help ourselves in each of those buckets. 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.000 I'm just imagining or slash-- 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.759 Not a doctor! 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.160 Hashtag, hashtag not a doctor. 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.440 But yes, a hundred percent yes. 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:29.359 Um, and as much as uh Adrienne says, Woohoo! I have all three categories covered. 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:34.400 Same friend, same, oh my gosh, it's so true. 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:38.799 But um, but yeah, that's this is uh the Hotties in Chief recommendations. 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.319 I will figure out who does that um that course. 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.279 She is an educator, and the course is like $19. 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:53.519 It is it's so cheap because she's like, I would rather have people know about this than make a lot of money from it. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.720 I love that. 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.640 No gatekeeping, no gatekeeping. 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.559 And she's a menopausal woman herself. 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.119 She's helped like 3,000 menopausal women. 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:08.720 Like, there are some people who are like, my mom was going through this, and so I did a lot of studying, and here's my 30, you know, my $300 course. 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:17.519 It's not that, it's like she is like, this is what helped me, this is what has helped my clients, and you know, I have to make a little bit of money. 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.759 So here, like, you can have it for 19 bucks. 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:21.359 And it's really great. 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:24.720 I'll put that in the show notes as well when I remember who she is. 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:30.480 Um, but buoy for electrolytes and lots and lots of water. 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:39.920 Um, and you're gonna hate me for this, but coffee and tea are diuretics, and they take even more moisture out of your system. 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:44.559 So yeah, I uh I can't have coffee anymore. 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:52.960 So I feel a little lucky about that because I'm sad, but I can have like coffee ice cream, but I can't have like coffee, coffee. 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.319 It hurts my stomach, like it really, really makes me sick. 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.599 Um, so recommendations for that. 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:08.160 Um moving your body no matter what is helpful because your joints are starting to freeze up at this point, too. 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.640 So, like having a little dance party while you wait for the microwave. 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:28.640 You know, like if you are scrolling through social media, have a couple of things that are heavy that you can do some um some curls or some overhead presses with, just moving your body helps at this stage of the game. 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:33.039 Because we'll get to frozen shoulder at the in another episode. 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:42.720 We'll get to joint pain in another episode, but just movement at this stage of the game is going to help you. 00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:54.640 Um we we didn't even touch on GLP ones, which I know a lot of people are into GLP one agonists, um, like you know, Wagovi and whatever. 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.200 Um uh I can't remember all of them. 00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.880 I feel like that could be its own episode. 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:11.440 Yeah, that would be its own episode, but but since we're touching on weight gain, um, I know I have good friends who are in our age group who have who have done

really well with GLP1 Agnes. 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.240 And that, you know, they come with their own issues. 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:21.920 But if if all else is failing you and you are a candidate, that's a that's a possibility. 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:22.799 No shame. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:23.440 No shame. 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.279 Do what you gotta do to feel better. 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:31.519 But just know that this is a total, totally normal stage of your life. 00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:36.640 And don't feel, don't starve yourself because that doesn't help. 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:42.240 Um, you know, eat more protein, obviously, because like everybody's like, eat more protein, eat more protein. 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.359 Yeah, but like, you know, find some fun recipes. 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:50.160 Ooh, there's this wonderful woman who's like Princess Pinky something. 00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:51.440 Did we talk about her? 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.119 I think in maybe you and I talked about her and we didn't talk about her. 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:56.960 Princess Pinky something. 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:05.759 And she does um she does recipes that are knockoffs of restaurants. 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:06.880 Oh, very cool. 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:14.559 So if you're like, hey, I want to eat more chicken or fish or steak or eggs or whatever, find some fun new recipes. 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.640 So you don't feel like you're you're completely bland. 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:33.839 Um, my nutritionist uh has uh like a matrix that she does about like to make sure that you're eating, like you're not just eating all carbs because you're not feeling well that day. 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:42.559 You're you're including some protein, you're including some vegetables, um, and you're including some healthy fats, because that's huge. 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:49.440 Um and around our age is when insulin uh resistance starts to happen too. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.279 Uh so if you eat more carbs, your body might not know how to deal with that. 00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.519 Um, again, hello, lack of estrogen. 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.440 I wish I could be on HRT. 00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:02.319 I cannot. 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.880 So Pinky Girl link above. 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:06.319 Yes, pinky girl link. 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:07.279 Thank you. 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:08.559 Thank you, Patricia. 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:12.079 She put, did you put the pinky girl link in the in the chat? 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:12.960 Thank you for that. 00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:14.880 Princess Pinky Girl. 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.319 Princess Pinky Girl. 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.759 Princess Pinky Girl, that's what it is. 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:18.160 Thank you. 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.200 So yeah, I would say to you, I mean, I'm in Peri. 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:29.279 So I'm in the like I'm presently continuing to gain weight and trying to figure out what the fuck's happening. 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:41.359 But I will say, if you have the budget for it, where and it's it is something that you are actively dealing with, hiring a nutritionist. 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:49.519 And also if they're all like what I have, the person I have is a licensed nutritionist and a fitness coach and a licensed fitness coach. 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.920 And so together, it's amazing. 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:58.400 Um, because she's able to to help me figure out sort of holistically everything. 00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:04.720 Um, but making sure that they also understand the phase of life that you're in right now. 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:05.279 Yes. 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.680 If somebody says, "well, just eat less," leave. 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:08.000 leave. 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:13.200 No, if all they say is calories and-- calories in and calories out, fuck them. 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:13.920 Bye-bye. 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.000 Um, also, it is true, like prioritizing protein also helps with recover muscle recovery. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.559 And as we are, we we are prone to injury more right now. 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.680 So this is something I do know as an athlete. 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.799 Like prioritizing protein is super important. 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.519 And like if you're someone like me where I enjoy cooking, but I don't really always have the time to cook. 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.880 And the idea of a new fancy recipe actually sometimes I get excited. 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:45.920 I'll go buy all the things at the grocery store and then it all goes bad in the fridge because I'm like, I'm just gonna order some fucking pizza. 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.359 Um, yes, nothing wrong with pizza, no shame in pizza. 00:32:49.359 --> 00:33:01.359 Also, there's no shame in like doing those like mail order meal things, or um, I will include this in the show notes, but I follow a couple of food blogs. 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:07.039 Um, I'm pescatarian and my husband's vegetarian, so it's also very specific, like what we can cook in our house. 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:11.119 But like a couple of cooks is an amazing. 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:12.400 Is that what it's called? 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:13.920 It's called a couple of cooks. 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:15.279 A couple of cooks, okay. 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:29.839 And um, it's a husband and wife, and the majority of their recipes um are either plant-based or pescatarian, but they have some with with other animal protein, but they're usually 30 minutes or less. 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:43.279 And they're I love and they're balanced and they're and the ingredients are things that most of us typically already have in our pantry, with the exception of maybe like one or two things, like that you need to go buy fresh. 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:48.640 Um, and so for me, it's like, how can I how can I have something that's tasty? 00:33:48.640 --> 00:34:03.920 Because again,

ADHD, I need the dopamine, yeah, but isn't going to have that roadblock in the kitchen for me where it's like, well, I was excited, but now that's too much fucking work and I'm having executive function issues right now. 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:12.000 Um and then also uh carbs, unless you're gluten-free, are not the enemy. 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:19.119 Our bodies actually we do need carbohydrates um for fuel, for energy. 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:20.639 It's just the balance of them. 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:30.320 And that's where working with a nutritionist is incredibly helpful because also something that's important to me is I am a foodie, so I still need to have joy when I eat. 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:30.880 Yes. 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:36.880 And so part of like what I love about the person I'm working with is I'm working with is she knows this. 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:42.000 Yeah, and she's like, fuck yeah, you're still going to enjoy eating the foods that you love. 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:42.639 Yeah. 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:47.199 Um, I also feel like a big part of this is self-talk. 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.480 Yeah, it's it's a big part of self-talk. 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:58.079 It's for me, it's I'm not looking to look the way I did when I was 25 years old. 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.239 Yeah, I'm not looking to fit into a certain size. 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:14.000 Fuck misogyny, fuck the patriarchy, fuck any cultural mindsets that made made us think that they're being over a certain size is bad. 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.039 Exactly. 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:16.000 Oh my god. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.400 Our focus should be on how are we feeling in our skin? 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:21.280 Yeah. 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.000 And do we feel strong? 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.559 Are we working in our agility? 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.719 Can we sit on the floor and get up off the floor? 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:31.599 Oh, that's huge. 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:32.480 You know what I mean? 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.000 Which has started to be a challenge for me because I have a bad knee. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:53.760 Um, and so like focus on those things and also like, yeah, go ahead and get put something in your budget if you can to buy something to wear that gives you joy, a fun color outfit for for this body that you gets to be your vessel now. 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:54.800 Yes. 00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:06.719 You like you will always look at pictures of you from the past, um, and and you'll say, Oh god, I wish I was that size. 00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.400 And five years from now, you're gonna think that about right now. 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.760 Um, do you know about eloquie? 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.360 That sounds really familiar. 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.239 Eloquie, it's e-l-o-q-u-i-i. 00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:23.519 Um, it is fashion for size 14 and up. 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:24.639 Amazing. 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:31.039 Everybody I know who lives in a larger body who dresses from eloquie, oh my god, they look amazing. 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.159 Amazing. 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:33.119 They look amazing. 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:39.840 Perimenoplas, plus diabetes is a whole extra barrel of monkeys, and I'm sure that's true for many folks who have been managing a chronic illness. 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.840 Every maintenance system needs a refresh. 00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:43.280 That's so true, Rebecca. 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:48.880 Yeah, that's a whole nother ball of wax that we can talk about uh, you know, on another episode. 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:55.840 But yeah, it's it's you get to the insulin resistance phase, and then diabetes type two becomes an issue. 00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:16.480 It runs in my family, and I'm certainly like something that I am uh I'm inherently aware of, but but one of the things that I've found very exciting is to Google, not Google, um, go on TikTok or Instagram and search my height and my weight. 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:31.920 So like I look for five foot two, 170 pounds, mid-size, and that like just look for those words, and all these people come up, and mostly, mostly in femme bodies. 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.519 Uh, all these people come up looking hot as shit, and they have my body. 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:45.519 Yes, that's the way I need to be dressing, not like a magazine, because the magazine stuff is never gonna look like that on me. 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.079 I want to look like that woman who has my body who looks hot and confident and fantastic. 00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:59.519 And and like just seeing other people in my body is has been amazing. 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:00.880 Rebecca says this has been awesome. 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.079 I'm gonna go eat my pizza, but I'm feeling motivated to drink more water with it. 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:05.280 Thank you both for this. 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.280 Rebecca, thank you so much for being here. 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.840 Rebecca, and we can talk about this for an hour. 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:10.239 Go ahead. 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.320 Coconut water as well. 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:14.320 Coconut water, that's awesome. 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.760 If you if you like it, I I drink harmless harvest. 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:31.119 It's a little bit more pricey, but it doesn't have it's like a gentler coconut water taste, and it's also it's just cooling and delicious, delicious. 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:39.679 And the the hydration you can get from coconut water, our bodies absorb uh quicker and are able to utilize it faster. 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:40.800 That's awesome. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.320 Yeah, unfortunately, I have a coconut insert sensitivity, which is bad. 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:48.239 But you know, what are you gonna call what are you gonna do? 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.360 Unless you're Marni. 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.719 Unless you're me. 00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:59.599

Like, but you know, the the fact that Dom was saying about a nutritionist and and nourish, I'll give another shout out to Nourish. 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.960 Again, we are not sponsored by Nourish, but maybe someday. 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.159 Um, uh, that is often covered by insurance. 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:29.760 So just just look into your insurance and a nutritionist, um, whether it is through like the list of doctors that is in your thing or nourish or like what what Dom said, somebody that you find that is that is a specialist in this that can help you feel good about what you're eating so that you can be strong and healthy. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.760 Yes. Yes! And also, we're all fucking gorgeous. 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.519 We're all fucking gorgeous! 00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:36.480 We're fucking gorgeous. 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.320 Alright, Look at look in the camera right now. 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.159 You are gorgeous. 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:41.599 You're gorgeous! 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:42.480 y ou are beautiful. 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:43.679 Wh ere's my finger? 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.920 You're gorgeous! you're beautiful! 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:52.559 you are so beautiful, and a washboard stomach was never meant to be the norm for women in midlife. 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.679 Like, look at Renaissance paintings, they're fucking gorgeous. 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.280 Yes! Look at Marilyn Monroe. 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.920 Marilyn Monroe, man, she was a size 14! 00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:01.199 Sophia Loren! 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:01.679 She was Beautiful. 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:04.639 Sophia Lauren, yeah, Kim Kardashian. 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.079 She's got a big booty. 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.599 J-Lo, come on. 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:11.360 Yes, dude! If I were to have a bum like that...! 00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.239 Patricia says, I've loved all of this and I adore you both. 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.280 Thanks for such a great time. 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.119 We should probably wrap it up. 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:18.320 Wrap it up. 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.199 Let's do it. 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.239 Special thanks to our editor, John Detty, 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:24.559 and to our hotties in the chat. 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.239 Thank you all for joining us. 00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.360 And until next time, talk to each other. 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.400 Because nobody else is going to. 00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:38.239 Bitches and Heat Podcast is a co-production of Marni Penning Narration, LLC and Dom Salvation. 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:43.119 Dom and Marni are not medical professionals, and their advice should not be considered as such. 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.920 They're just a couple of middle-aged hotties bitching about perimenopause and everything that surrounds it. 00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:54.880 If you'd like to join us for a live recording, you can become a supporter of the podcast at Bitchesinheatpodcast.com. 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:58.239 Make sure you add the word podcast or you won't reach us. 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.960 The other is a very different website. 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.880 Also make sure to check out our hotties merch at shop.bitchesinheatpodcast.com. 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:17.760 If you have a suggestion for a future podcast, write to us at bitchesinheatpodcast@ gmail.com or visit our website, bitchesinheatpodcast.com, to send us some fan mail. 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:25.599 Please note that no part of this audio may be used or reproduced in any manner for the purpose of training artificial intelligence technologies or systems. 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.199 Copyright 2026, all rights reserved.

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