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elected governor. And so except for the FBI sting operation in a hotel room in Columbus, P.G. Sittenfeld would be the governor. Can you smell what I'm cooking? 00:02:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always thought PG's greatest crime was not realizing the blazingly obvious fact that he was in the middle of an FBI sting operation. You know, I watched most of that trial covering it for another station. And, like, these guys weren't even good FBI agents, really. I mean, they were acting like they were on The Sopranos, like there really was a guy named Rocco from Rhode Island who never gave his last name. And it's like, I would, you know, at some point or another, I mean, look, I have a very different, I think he actually did cross the line legally. And actually with what he did there, I think was worse than a lot of folks know now. I know he's been pardoned and sort of Trump rehabilitated, but, but yeah, Trump did that. 00:03:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:03:34 Speaker 2: Cause I think Trump just hates these kinds of prosecutions altogether. And I get that, but, but this wasn't even a good sting. So we have, but for those guys, we could be talking about governor Sittenfeld, our first governor from Ohio since tapped. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: And if Tavistan would be only in the clerk of court's office. But anyway, that's the road not taken. Let's talk about the state of the city. And one of the remarkable phrases used by your good friend and mine, Aftab Pureval, who I've invited on the show regularly and declines, that we're going to be the situs of a huge influx of refugees because of the climate. That somehow the climate is changing so much and it is so bad. that climate refugees from Kentucky, Indiana, from Boone County, and Claremont County are going to make their way into the Republic of Aftabistan to have Aftab take care of us, because we have to get ready for the influx of refugees because of the climate. Now, can you respond to that? 00:04:27 Speaker 2: Well, he's been talking about this to the national media in places like the New York Times for close to a year, this idea that we're going to get ready for all these people, the idea is like the coasts are going to be overwhelmed, but the oceans and so forth, and that it is cost of living will be so high and everyone's going to come into the center of the city or of the country. And it's going to be an extra hundred thousand people here in Cincinnati. Um, so we're getting ready for that day. That may happen 20, 30 years from now. And it's absolutely, I mean, it's absurd. I mean, it's absolutely absurd. We don't know that we can't even, you know, meanwhile, you know, he glides past all the shootings, glide past the youth shootings, the, shootings in bars, the businesses that are closing downtown. And what I was saying to a friend of mine this morning was like, he should be worried about the climate change coming this weekend because they can't even clear the snow, the ice, they can't get the salt down properly. They

can't fix the roads. We got climate change coming like Friday if your meteorologist is correct. So maybe they should focus on the basic services and put the science fiction stuff somewhere else. And You can tell even his base wasn't buying it. I mean, I usually go to the state of the city. I couldn't bring myself to do it this year. I saw some of the photos, and there were literally tens of people there, I will say. Tens of people. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: Tens of people. I mean, you know what? 00:05:45 Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about a man and a politician and the size of his crowds, but tens of people, tens of people showed up to listen to this nonsense. And it's mind-boggling to me that with everything going on in the city, and all the public safety problems that we have, and the perception of it, which is probably even worse than the reality, that that's what he's talking about. I mean, I had a client come in from out of town last week who was staying at the Renaissance Hotel, afraid to leave her hotel to go to dinner. We were going to walk around the corner and go to dinner. She was afraid to leave it because of the news stories she had read. And she's from Pittsburgh, which isn't exactly, you know, paradise. 00:06:24 Speaker 1: Well, another issue. That's what's going on. I see that Jeff Ruby, uh, Brittany did a great job and they, about a year ago, they had to leave their corporate offices because of crime and homelessness right there in the, in the heart of the city, across the street from the, uh, near, near the, uh, uh, Aronoff center. And they had to get out. Now they're going to move out a little bit. And I know employees of large employers have got to have people walking there and especially their female employees to the cars late at night. We got that issue. Then we got the real estate tax increases. The school levy, of course, passed. Tony Bender thought it wouldn't pass. And I said, I think it's going to pass by 60 percent because there's a perception in the city. If you're a Democratic voter, that kind of we're entitled to better schools and more money and that those who actually pay the bills voted no. But those who don't pay the bills voted yes. Got that issue going on. Plus, the mayor talks about how crime is down. I think reporting of crime is down. Can you address yourself to the issue of the criminality? Perception can become reality. And there's a perception downtown is not safe, as your friend from Pittsburgh, your client, came in. I don't want to walk around the city. But the mayor tiptoed around that one, talking about the lack of murders in the city. What about otherwise shooting spots? Schotter has about 21,000 shots fired in the past year in the city of Cincinnati. That's a big number. You have car break-ins, which are ubiquitous. You have other minor crimes every weekend. It appears there's a street takeover not reported by the mainstream media. One one was reported on Halloween night. But there's been every weekend since then. There's been more in which the police are overwhelmed. But there's no TV to take the pictures and there's no one covering the events. So it didn't happen. You live in the city. Do you have a sense it is safe to walk downtown despite their protestations of the mayor? 00:08:08 Speaker 2: Look, I'm downtown almost every day. And no, parts of it are not safe. And it's certainly not late at night. And by late at night, I mean any time after dark. I mean, no, there's still some very bad things happening down there. Very, very bad. And yeah, I guess homicides are down somewhat. But we're coming off a near record year. I mean, being off, that's like saying, you know. Mussolini was a little less bad than Hitler. They're not better. They're just a little less bad. It's still really bad. These are unacceptable levels of violence. And the fact that you have these kids running around with the guns makes it even more random and more scary and more terrifying. But what Aftab's doing is particularly disgusting, I think, because they have these big, what he talked about a lot last night, is they have these big festival weekends, whether it be Oktoberfest or Blink or whatever. And yes, they force the overworked police department, the CPD, and they bring in some sheriff's deputies. They force them into extra, extra overtime and high visibility overtime. And they clean the city up on those weekends. And then, you know, and people do come down from the suburbs and can walk around relatively safely because they do move all the homeless out. They do clean up the bus stations and all that kind of stuff. But on Monday morning, the same old disorder and the same old dysfunction comes right back. Because they just don't have the police officers to do it on a day-to-day basis. 00:09:30 Speaker 1: And I would add— The. 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Octoberfest went well. 00:09:32 Speaker 1: It went very well. But let's face it. The city did not provide the organization for Oktoberfest or the Taste of Cincinnati or the Reds games or the Bengals games or what happens at the arenas downtown or FC because that's done privately. And the city's role is to have traffic control. and to make sure not too many people are getting the victims of crime. Those are not city operations. City operations are fixing the potholes. City operations are the Irish rollie gang. about monitoring the police. The city takes credit for events they did not supervise, did not create, do not control. But if it goes right, they take credit. If it goes wrong, they blame somebody else. Mainly it's Brendan Call and that group putting on these special events. And the city's role is simply to provide security. And people are on their best behavior. I think Blink was a great success, although I didn't go. People walk around looking at Blink and projections on buildings. I think that's great. If 2 million people showed up, that's great. But that, again, is not a city operation. The private companies,

individuals, organizations that do that ask the city just to provide security. And the city, that's not an operation. The core functions of the city of Cincinnati, Steve Gooden, are what? Give me two or three of the core operations for which they are responsible. It's one thing to have the responsibility. It's another thing. You have the power. And many times you don't have the power to change anything. Much like Vivek Ramaswamy took over his own campaign and the Republican Party was kind of responsible for what happened. But they didn't have the power because the Vivek organization would not do what the party wanted them to do and let him alone. So the Republican Party, Inc., had the responsibility to. for the outcome, but not the power to change it. You know what I'm saying? So what are the two or three things the city is responsible for? They don't do well. So don't take responsibility for things you don't have responsibility for, and you have no power and take credit for that. Because the Brendan Call organization do the special events. They have the volunteers, the people, they organize everything. And the city just sits by and watches it and provides security. Am I right or wrong on that point? 00:11:34 Speaker 4: That's one. 00:11:34 Speaker 1: And two, what are the two or three things the city should do that it's not doing properly? You know what I'm saying? 00:11:40 Speaker 2: No, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, look, you know, the chamber basically runs the big festivals now. And then you have the, you know, the three big families downtown with the FC and the Brown family with the Bengals and Dover and the Reds. I mean, they're responsible for a lot of the other big events, the big concerts, which are now held at those facilities constantly. It is all privately done. But, you know, the city does, I think, you know, they do put the police out there on the weekends and, you know, these big festival weekends, and they're doing a better job at that. But what the core function has to be is day-to-day public safety. Are there enough police officers to timely respond to calls? 00:12:19 Speaker 5: No. 00:12:19 Speaker 2: Are there police officers out there walking the beat, doing community policing and trying to get ahead of the shootings and gun possession and other problems in these neighborhoods where they know the problems are? Those are the core functions they're not doing. And then for the regular citizens, our roads continue to be a mess. And I can't reiterate that enough. It isn't just that they look bad or they're unpleasant to drive over. You have potholes and you have these speed bumps everywhere. It's just when people come into the city, whether they're coming in from another city or just driving into the city to work from a place like Westchester or Mason, our roads are present are terrible to drive on and that's something that absolutely is the city's responsibility not climate change not big festivals it's just like this

deeply unsexy day-to-day business of running the city do you have enough cops do you have enough garbage you know the garbage garbage collection's been off i don't know if you've been seeing that is actually been covered another newspaper yeah we don't have enough garbage people i mean to pick up the garbage and that's the city's responsibility there's some parts of high park that went two and three weeks without garbage pickup. They missed it in here in Clifton, where I live. So it's not exciting. It's not going to get you in the New York Times. It's not going to get you on national TV. But my God, that's what makes people want to live in the city, is that you feel safe and that the basic services are there. And that's where they fail just time and time again. They want the big ticket items. They want to be on TV. They want to say, look, we had blank and X number of people came down, etc., That's all well and good, but the day-to-day life in the city just isn't what it should be, and it's catching up to them. 00:13:58 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I had Ken Cobra the other day at the police union. He talked about 50 new cops coming on, which is great. It's good. Get on. I think they're going to start. They started on Sunday a couple days ago, and away you go. But he'll tell you every year, as you know, there's about 50 cops that retire or leave. And so they need 100 more cops immediately, if not sooner. And in the suburbs, you can't go to the suburbs, have cops come downtown, even at a salary of $ 90, 000 a year plus overtime. The typical cop in Cincinnati makes over $ 100, 000 a year because of all the overtime and the other benefits. But the problem is you're constantly under scrutiny. And God forbid you have to respond to somebody trying to kick you in the head like in Coryville, and you respond pulling out a weapon and shoot somebody, God help you at that point. I think if some scoundrel, some rascal, some gangbanger is kicking me in the head and punching my face, I have the right to pull out my gun and shoot him. Now, if that cop had done that, he's hesitant to do it and passive because of Iris Rowley and others that are paid a half million dollars a year to monitor the cops. That's another problem. The cops do not believe, when you talk to them, that they're free to go after the jackrabbits running around because it's politically incorrect. And passively, they're told not to enforce the law. In addition to all the other traffic violations, people ignore traffic in the city of Cincinnati because of the speed bumps. Traffic counts, by the way, as far as violations, are down 40% from seven years ago. Because the cops are not told to pull people over. Because if you do, you find out the driver doesn't have a license. He has wants and warrants, doesn't have insurance, car not registered. Now you got to arrest him. And it's bada bing, bada bang. You put them in, they come out immediately. In fact, the two kids who beat up those cops right now are out on ankle monitors. And we just confirmed that behavior by juvenile court because we reelected by 62%. Judge Bloom is back there and she thinks my policies are acceptable. There's a question in there. Can you answer it? 00:15:55 Speaker 3: Well, right. 00:15:56 Speaker 1: I mean, it's, well, I think so. 00:15:58 Speaker 2: And I think we all know what's going on, which is number one, the police department, I think Cobra understates it because he's also a union president. Not only are we barely keeping up with the retirements, the actual compliment number that it was, that has been set is low. I mean, they really need about, they've got about on a good day, 963, I think sworn officers. They really probably for a city, the size we have need about 13 to 1400. So, I mean, just keeping up with the nine 60, the feds say we need 1100 common sense tells us we need 13 to 1400. If we're really going to police the city properly, particularly on the weekends, we have all these visitors that come in and we have an extra couple hundred thousand people. per night coming in to go to the restaurants and attractions and ball games. It just doesn't make sense. And you're right. Like if, if, if somebody, if you're a young police officer and your choice is to go to, uh, say a green township or a Mason or one of these smaller departments where you're not going to have the citizens complaint authority or Iris Roley, or you're not going to be just, you know, uh, scrutinized to death and that, you know, you are allowed to use force. And if you arrest someone, they might actually stay in jail. and be processed and have the case taken seriously, why would you put yourself through it? The people that are signing up now, God bless them, they must really, really love the city. But it's a very, very hard time to be a police officer here. And you're right, the city has absolutely 100% from the highest levels instructed these officers, and I know this firsthand, to not enforce a lot of the traffic stops. Because really, that's where a lot of people used to pull the illegal guns. A traffic stop could lead to a search, which could lead to a felon with a gun or someone with a gun that was unlicensed. And they would take that gun off the street through this traffic, what they call traffic interdiction. That is all but gone now. It has been replaced by the speed hump. So they'll tell you that's the idea. It's like we're not doing traffic because you're supposed to slow down now because we have these speed bumps and everyone's fine. But the lack of traffic interdiction does play a role in the increased gun violence. It just does. 00:18:03 Speaker 1: We've got to run, but at least we're the site now for climate refugees to come to Cincinnati. And we have housing and other facilities for 100,000 Hondurans. So I say come on down. And once again, the state of the city is in flux. Steve Gooden, you're a great American, and good to get your perspective on this. You're kind of a normal

guy. And once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Continue to have a great afternoon. Steve, thank you. 00:18:28 Speaker 3: Anytime. 00:18:29 Speaker 2: God bless. Thank you. 00:18:29 Speaker 1: And God bless America. News next. It's your home of the Bengals, who were rather passive yesterday in the trade deadline. 700 WLW. Speaking of chaos, we have chaos everywhere. I live in the land of chaos. Coming up later will be Maya Cook, who's going to talk about what happened in the state of Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, how it relates to policy. Most of us, what, eight days later, have put aside the politics of the matter. Let the politicians worry about that stuff. I got to get on with my life. The great Rocky Boyman said on Wednesday afternoon last week, he said, look, I'm going to control what happens inside my home, inside the four walls. I'm going to love my wife. I'm going to respect and love my kids. I'm going to work hard. I'm going to travel to New Mexico for a college football game, taking three transfers to get back. I'm going to fly from here to to Northern Kentucky, to here, back to here. 00:19:24 Speaker 6: I'm going to work. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: He works six or seven days a week. I work six days a week. I can control the controllables, but I can't control the uncontrollables. By that, I mean that there's things in your life that you can control and things you can't control. When I was actively in the restaurant business selling millions and millions of chicken wings, we had we had uh ledgers of controllables and non-controllables some of the non-controllables were taxes premiums for health care utility expenses insurance expenses put the roar back on your insurance call alvin today there's all kinds of things you can't control it happens you might be able to influence it but very slightly but then you have controllables which is how much food you're going to order How are you going to stock the bar? What about your scheduling? What about the kitchen facilities, the things that make sure they work properly? Maybe advertising. Those are all controllables. And so when I look at the controllables in life and the uncontrollables in life, I put things in the hands of God Almighty. At the end of the day, America is God's representative on earth, especially today being Veterans Day. And I want to thank again all the men and women who serve or have served or will serve and the armed forces. Right now, recruitments are up. The missions are difficult. I also respect sheriffs and deputy sheriffs and U.S. marshals and FBI and police officers everywhere. They're an extension of keeping law and order here. And ICE, I have no problem with ICE. Do they make mistakes sometimes? Well, don't you? Absolutely. How about 1 million arrests in the first 18 months of the Trump administration? 1 million arrests. Count on one hand the ones that are controversial, like maybe the one in Butler County. By the way, Cindy Carpenter was just kicked out of office. It is a bald-faced lie to say that Sheriff Richard K. Jones is arresting brown people. He's arresting people that should not be here, brown, white, or otherwise, no difficulty, no problem. And so it's kind of a slam often used by the radical left to say, you know what, we're going to make this a racial issue. If they had a million illegal immigrants from Iceland, I'd say get them the hell out of the country. But nonetheless, controllables and uncontrollables. Another thing that may be kind of uncontrollable is what's happening on college campuses. Let me explain. There is an indication. In fact, I think I have proof about I'm going to give to you that universities and colleges, about 90 percent of them are turning students against America. Because most are not even born in 9-11. They read about it in the history books. When I speak about 9-11, it'd be like my parents talking about Pearl Harbor. It doesn't relate to them. They weren't around. They were born maybe in 2002, 2003, 2004. And so as a consequence, they don't have experiences with what the country went through in 9-11. And having been not taught, the history books don't talk about it. The professors ignore it. And so you have a generation of millions and millions of A marching Marxist coming out of the universities and colleges believing America is the problem and not the solution. Let me share with you a poll that this morning was in the New York Post that was conducted the day, two days before, the day before, the day of the election, the day after. They want to take a snapshot as to college students who are actually voting between the ages of 18 and 25 about what they thought about America. And this forms the basis of their vote for or against the country, for or against the military, for or against Iran or Puerto Rico or Cuba or Venezuela, United States. How about this? In this poll, 26% of college students, you would say bright, educated, informed, 26% say that America deserved 9-11. that about the 2,000 men and women that were murdered on 9-11, we have about a quarter of college kids saying, you know what, we deserved it. Much like the American soldiers and sailors in Pearl Harbor deserved to be killed by the Japanese naval fleet. So if you begin, if you vote, and you think like Hassan Piker, that about 26% say, what happened on 9-11, the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Shanksville, was something that our behavior brought about and we deserved it. It was a proper response to kill innocent men, women, and children. Is that a problem? I would think so. Dr. Abdul in Michigan, when speaking about the terrorist who drove his pickup truck through the glass doors of a synagogue to kill inside 175 children between the ages of two and seven, Dr. Abdul just got elected. He said, hurt people, hurt people. He justified the attempted murder of 175 children. Doesn't stop there. You know, I think we know what socialism is as great Americans. Would you agree? We know what socialism is. It's

the government power over individual decisions. And it distributes income out of your pocket to those many times who didn't earn it because you can get their vote. I know my friend Walter Williams often talked about that the black family survived after a civil war. They survived the lynchings and Jim Crow and counting how many jelly beans are in a jar to vote. They survived all that. The family, the black family stayed intact. In fact, in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s and 60s, about 86% of black boys grew up in a household with a black father in the house. Is that important? Generally, yes. Is it critical? Not necessarily. I grew up without a father in my home. That was functional. I think I did okay. But nonetheless... It's important to have a situation where you have intact families in a Western democratic type government. Well, 52% of college students, 52% say they prefer socialism as opposed to capitalism, 52%. And they vote that. So when socialists come out, the DSA talks about abandoning the Supreme Court, getting rid of the Senate, open borders, et cetera. They come with the orientation that they were told to by college professors and others. That is, America is the great Satan. It's our fault. We don't deserve to exist. And so they, you know, garbage in, garbage out. So that means we have a situation now and in the future that reflects 26% of college kids, 18 and 25 years old, say we deserve to be murdered on 9-11. And secondly, 52% want socialism. May I continue? That, uh, Students are not even born in 2001 to witness the devastating attacks, but they have the answer. It continues. Hostility toward Israel has grown markedly in the past one to two years. Two-thirds of college students believe the side of Hamas and Palestine over Israel. Two-thirds. So when Assange Piker shows up on a college campus, or when Dr. Abdul talks about eliminating financial aid to Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East, He is shouted down. He has a receptive audience, shall we say. That's a large number. How about this one? Nearly half of college students, 47% who voted, said they agreed with this statement. Quote, this is 47%. Quote, while socialist countries like Cuba and the Soviet Union have not been perfect, they offer a better economic model than capitalistic countries like the United States. Quote, unquote. And 47% said, yes, the old Soviet Union and Russia now and Cuba, that's pretty good. 00:27:24 Speaker 6: 47%. 00:27:27 Speaker 3: What? 00:27:28 Speaker 1: Garbage in, garbage out. Universities marching Marxist, turning students against our country. And only about 30% favored U.S. capitalism as a better model. So it's 47% say we want Cuba-style economic systems. And only about 32% say, I believe in capitalism. Unbelievable. How about this? Transgender issues. Two-thirds of college kids said transgender students should be able to compete in the gender they choose. And to make things a little bit worse, how about this one? 50% said America is linked organically and structurally to white supremacy and And in general, most minorities remain excluded from the American promise of equality. 50% were white supremacists. So if you go to vote and you have a capitalist, a pro-American Republican, whether it's going to be Marco Rubio or J.D. Vance or Donald Trump in office presently, you look at Donald Trump and say, number one, he's a white supremacist. Number two, he just had this big event at Arlington. Number two, America deserved 9-11. How would you look upon the Republican Party? 52% of the respondents said they would rather live under socialism than capitalism. And two-thirds side with, quote, Palestine. Two-thirds over Israel. From the river to the sea, whatever that means. I know what it means. You know what that means? From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean. You know what that means? That means kill all the Jews from the river to the sea. Well, two-thirds of college kids today, bright, educated, paying for their education largely through loans of their parents, two-thirds, say that they want Israel to be wiped off the face of the earth, much like Dr. Abdul. And 47% of students agreed, quote, while socialist countries like Cuba and the Soviet Union have not been perfect, they offer a better economic model than capitalist countries like the United States, quote, unquote. 00:29:42 Speaker 4: What? 00:29:44 Speaker 1: And so, my fellow Americans, I sound like a politician, we have an educational problem of historical proportions. Right now, about 75% of the American people, which is about 300 million Americans, live under the leadership of liberal Democrats and Democratic Socialists of America, 75% of the country. In fact, the only state in the top, well, including Florida, it'd be two. There'd be two states in the top 12, Ohio excluded. I assume the Ohio House and Senate will stay Republican. But as far as having Democratic governors, there's only one state, and the top 12 that has a Republican governor, that being Ron DeSantis. So the chickens have come home to roost. Graduates beginning about 20 years ago that are now in their late 30s and 40s dominate businesses, advertising, et cetera, and their view of this country is not good. In fact, Earth Day is much more popular than Veterans Day among the population. And when so-called red states like Ohio and Mississippi and Kansas and Iowa lose their way and put liberal Democrats completely in charge, we got a problem. Because those in charge came out of these colleges and universities, turning their back to America and believing that we deserve 9-11, that capitalism would be better than not as good as socialism. That America is irredeemably racist. That black Americans like the mayors and the doctors and the lawyers that I go to don't have a fair shot. That Christopher Smitherman's fail in life because he's black, which is a lie. And that more than one third believe that transgenders should participate in whatever sport they want to play in.

That's kind of a moral issue. But as far as the politics of this matter, do you see why? I've not yet reached the last stage of grief, that being acceptance. As an American, can you accept this going forward? And the next cycle is going to be worse than this one. As you may know, in this cycle, the red states went forward trying to elect U.S. senators, and they failed miserably, all of them. Alaska is going to go one direction, Mississippi. So we failed. It was 0-8. And the next cycle, in 28-30... All the Democratic states vote. What are the odds of Republicans winning a Senate seat in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, California, Colorado, Illinois, Washington, Oregon? The answer is zero. It will not happen. Many times in those states, you can't find a Republican with a search warrant. And Texas has fallen. And I don't know if it can get back up. I don't know. If the Democrats, the liberal Democrats win Texas, it's over. And they're talking about now winning Florida and Ohio. Then it's really over. Later on, either today or tomorrow, I'm going to have on a guest about Save Our States, about the interstate compact. Whoever wins the popular vote gets the votes of the states. Maybe unconstitutional, may not be. So my fellow Americans, hope you can see. I see difficult days ahead. I'm optimistic. That's why I can't get to the final stage of grief, which is acceptance. I cannot accept the fact that The brightest kids in America, the college students, go to MIT and Ohio State, who set their fellow students on fire and then laugh about it. And UC and Xavier and NKU, producing graduates who think America is irredeemably broken, that our economic system is terrible, that racist individuals are dominant. I can't conceive of Hamilton County. There's one Republican officeholder in Hamilton County That's the fine engineer Beck. Other than that, you can't find a Republican with a search warrant. Suddenly, the world is turned upside down. Universities have poisoned the mind of our kids and turned students against America. And I got the proof right here. Here's the proof. The polling coming out. Is that going to change in the next 24 months? Or will it get worse? If good times come, which is possible, probable, Democrats will take credit. If bad times take place, depending on Trump, run against Trump in 2028, which is a reason not to have J.D. Vance do it, kind of my guy is Governor Ron DeSantis. I think Governor DeSantis would be great. He's the only governor that survived in the top 12 states. We'll see where we go. We get the government we deserve. And I also want to say that I think we're in the hands of God to do what's right. And ultimately, we have to hit rock bottom before we recover. And to ignore the lessons of 9-11, To say we deserved it is despicable, especially on Veterans Day. Let's continue with more. After 1 o'clock today will be May at Cook and more after 2, plus Bengals at it again. Sunday night's bigger than Montana. It'll be a whiteout and more. Let's continue. We never stop. We simply continue. Do I want to have hope and faith? Absolutely. Do I have it? I'll let you know in about two years, assuming I'm with you in two years, which I intend to be. Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW. I'm Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, we continue to pick up the pieces of the election in the rearview mirror. But more importantly, would you agree the future is a lot more relevant than the past? We can learn from the past, live for today. But in the future, we have to have a different message for the conservative movement. I continue to believe that America is a center-right country, especially the state of Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. The heart that beats this entire country is Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. And the main part of that aorta would be, of course, Ohio. Because Ohio represents the nation as far as percentage of the population, as far as the Lake Erie in the north, Ohio River in the south, as far as being rural and farming, small businesses, large businesses, large cities, small cities, and farming communities. We represent the United States. And if Republicans cannot win Ohio, you can't win anywhere. In fact, I think in the last 100 or 200 years, there's only been one occasion when Ohio did not vote for the winner. who was the president. Quite unusual for Ohio to be different. We're the same. And for those who complain, like Tony Bender, about the art of politics being not practiced well in Ohio, we got the same results in Ohio as we got in Mississippi, the same results we got in Kansas, for God's sakes, the same results in Georgia, the same results in Alaska. I think that's going one direction. And so Ohio is not the outlier. Ohio is the lantern that's showing light in the darkness of American politics and more. joining you and i now is maya cook she's an attorney and a conservative activist all over the place and maya cook welcome again to the bill cunningham show you heard my brief diatribe where do you stand on what happened tell us where we were tell us where we are and tell us where we hope to be. 00:37:05 Speaker 6: Bill, thank you so much for having me. 00:37:06 Speaker 7: I think you have nailed what Ohio means for the country. I've always said, as Ohio goes, so goes the nation. And I think Republicans need to hear that warning loud and clear. If Tuesday wasn't a shell shock, then I hope we're picking up the pieces and figuring out how to regroup. And I have to be honest with you, I really thought we were going to do better. And I failed the same way Republicans across our country have failed because we did not listen. The one thing I pointed out over and over again, and you may disagree with this, but it's our younger generation. We have to give the generation a reason to believe that they can afford a home, build a family and get ahead of their American dream. We didn't have a path for that as a Republican Party. All I heard were senior officials and

individuals talking down to young Americans saying, man up, do better, save more burritos, $ 20 burritos, you can. 00:38:05 Speaker 6: Make your burritos at home. 00:38:06 Speaker 7: And I think even a burrito wrapped in foil was supposed to be in a message. to the American people, to office holders, that there is a cost of living problem. So I think that's the number one issue. We missed the mark on it. We got ahead of ourselves. And I think there's a point where we can work the next two years to have a competency revolution and continue to deliver rather than just lip service and part of that bill i hate to say it got to get rid of this merry-go-round of the same office holders that go for the same jobs and continue to fail the american people. 00:38:42 Speaker 1: The same old same old is not good enough anymore and i i suspect the next cycle i always like to think and i have all the stats and what happened in 1938 And what happened in 1966 and what happened in 1982, what happened in 1994, what happened in 2010. I got the stats. Everyone's telling me from the political class, guess what? It's all going to revert back in two years. And I would say to them, no, it is not. This is a problem in which the Democratic Party, the Socialistic Party is making promises that cannot be kept. And the fact that the so-called Trump coalition lost white working class Americans, the plumbers, the bakers, the candlestick makers. They lost the Hispanic vote. They lost, of course, the black vote, unfortunately, was a Republican for like 80 years. In the mid 1960s, it became Democratic in a state that. way permanently. And also young folks, the Turning Point USA crowd, which wasn't present And if the coalition cannot be rebuilt that Trump put together in 2024, moving forward, we got serious problems. I worry about 2028 and 2030. I shared things with your good friend of mine, Sean Hannity, when I was on his show recently. And I said this. I said, Sean. Don't tell me happy days are here again. They got the football. Lucy's got the football. She's going to fumble the football. No, no, no, no. Something fundamentally may have changed in which young folks think there's no future for them. They have no husbands. They have no wives, have no children, have no homes. That educated kids come out owing $ 200, 000 and work as a barista, can't afford to pay their bills. The Hispanics often believe that they were tending toward the Republican Party because of faith and family, very strong faith. But then Hispanics in Texas flushed down the toilet because of the so-called tactics of ICE. And on top of that, suburbanites. I live in, may I say, a somewhat upscale part of Cincinnati, Ohio. And it was four to one Amy Acton signs to Vivek Ramaswamy signs. Four to one, and shall I say, upscale communities. 500,000 million dollar houses. And there were Amy Acton signs in the yard. Explain that. There's a question in there somewhere. Can you answer it? 00:40:51 Speaker 7: Yes, Bill, listen, people aren't suddenly all for Democrats and all for socialism and all for. 00:40:57 Speaker 6: Amy Acton who shut down our state in Ohio and then bailed on us. 00:41:02 Speaker 7: So Amy Acton isn't the solution to the problem that we're facing as Americans. And I promise you one thing, our voters will come back if we have real solutions that they can feel at gas stations. As I sit with my family and balance the checkbook and I figure out what I can afford for my two little children. As I look at school choice, which we did not talk about this election. And let me tell you, it's going to be a fight like hell against these Democrats who want to put more money. 00:41:32 Speaker 6: And failing public education. 00:41:34 Speaker 7: That's how we're going to get the suburban moms like me and the rest of the country out in arms. Because there is a dangerous ideology that we will have to face in this next battle against Amy Acton and Democrats. 00:41:48 Speaker 6: Because they will not let up in what they want. 00:41:51 Speaker 7: And they want to ensure a socialist America, a socialist Ohio. And that couldn't be further from the truth. But the problem is, you can't just scream socialism is bad. You have to give people confidence. real solutions. We have a General Assembly today that is Republican. So I demand that they go to a zero income tax, show voters that they're working in their districts for them. George Lang, one of the greatest people in our Senate in Ohio has been beating this drum. So let's get things done. If legislatively we can put proposals out there and Amy Acton is vetoing them, we will show Ohioans who we are and what we stand for. We have to be on offense, Bill. This is our time. It's about competency. I'm so tired of the promises that people keep making. Our families and our mothers are going to be watching because we're sitting and watching gas prices right now, groceries, and our children. And if that doesn't change other Democrat leadership, they're going to want to change. So we have to get up and make it happen regardless. I mean, I'm not an elected office holder. I'm going to be at the legislature demanding changes, putting out proposals, and asking for. 00:43:05 Speaker 6: Them to pass it. 00:43:06 Speaker 7: And I dare Amy Acton to try and veto any legislation that makes healthcare more affordable, life more affordable, and school choice in America. 00:43:15 Speaker 1: Mayor Cook, here's the difficulty. Because there's no longer a veto proof, shall we say, majority in the House, there is in the Senate in the state of Ohio. And I want to talk about Governor Hinojosa of Texas here in a moment. that it appears likely that when Amy Acton involves herself in a line item veto in this 8,000 page bill coming up in about three or four months, she has promised the teachers unions that she will line item veto out the voucher system, which allows a parent or parents in a failing school district to which they pay confiscatory

taxes to opt out of going to a bad urban school and get into a Catholic school or some other magnet school, she's going to X that out, and there's not enough votes in the legislature to overturn it. So Amy Acton, with the stroke of her pen, can destroy the education of thousands and thousands of Ohio school students. Also, in Texas, a couple days ago, the new incoming governor, her name is Hanosa, maybe saying that incorrectly, Nobody heard of her. She beat Greg Abbott easily in Texas. She said she's going to issue an executive order on day one, freezing utility costs. You cannot raise the price of any utility. I like low bills. My Duke Energy bill is $ 600, $ 700 a month. I could use it to be a little bit less. But when you tell a utility company you can't pass on to the consumer the prices that they're feeling on the increase, you're going to have massive brownouts, which is the color of the shirt worn by Tony Bender as I speak. He's getting ready for brownouts because you can't tell utility providers you cannot raise the price that people passed on to the utility provider passing on to you. And secondly, in the state of Ohio, and by the way, Enosa says she may freeze food prices. That means we're going to have empty shelves. They don't understand capitalism versus socialism. Can you tell the American people how does the governor of Texas freeze utility expenses when they do not freeze the costs passed on to the utility provider? And in New York City, for example, they have rent freezes, which tells landlords they're going to go into receivership. They won't be able to pay their own bills for the increased property taxes. and also repair expenses. So there's going to be a government takeover of public housing. Then in Texas, my God, you're going to have massive brownouts again. You know what I'm saying? What would you say about capitalism and socialism? 00:45:38 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's going to play beautifully as you have governors trying to dictate to corporations, whether it's utility prices or grocery prices. 00:45:48 Speaker 6: We saw what. 00:45:49 Speaker 7: Mayor Zoran Mandani in New York did. He tried to dictate grocery prices and you saw empty shells. And I think as we talk about socialism, Bill, you know what it is, but. 00:46:00 Speaker 6: Most people don't. 00:46:01 Speaker 7: Let them live it, let them feel it, let them understand what the costs are and what we're up against. But the bigger picture is what you said earlier about Amy Acton. Let me just tell you, Amy Acton can veto and continue to stand with teachers unions. But we learned something as parents in 2020 during COVID. We learned the number one line of defense against our children is to make sure we pull them out of school to homeschool to look at alternative actions. 00:46:28 Speaker 6: And then to go out and vote against them. 00:46:31 Speaker 7: The biggest revolution I saw in America, you can talk about Maha, you can talk about all these other groups. It was the parents, the mothers that came out and said, we are not going to let you abuse our children. We're not going to let you use our tax dollars to continue to fund failing schools. They're going to ignite a movement if they continue. 00:46:52 Speaker 6: To dump our money into failing schools. Just mark my words on that. 00:46:57 Speaker 1: Let's go to 35,000 feet and look down at America, including Alaska and Hawaii. The cycle in 2026 was perceived as a pro-Republican cycle because of the Senate seats up in places like Ohio, Mississippi, and Georgia, and Kansas, and Alaska, and Texas. It was viewed, shall we say, as a cycle that was going to be pro-Republican, take 53 to 54 or 55, and or keep it at 51, 52. It washed out completely. In fact, the Democrats and Socialists are eight for eight. So in 2028 and 2030, I looked at the state U.S. seats up in the Senate, that they are including Washington State, Oregon, California, New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Delaware, Vermont, Illinois. Unless I live in some alternative universe, the odds of a Republican winning a U.S. Senate seat in New York or California is next to zero and zero left town. There's no chance of that happening. So we're going to be in the wilderness for the next four to six years at the earliest, maybe longer. And so the next, shall I say, eight weeks in the United States Senate is critical to that doing what should have been done the last two years and the Republicans didn't get it done. I'm told by Senator John Thune and others, guess what? We're going to have eight legislative sessions between now and the end of the year. What message would you send to the United States Senate about passing more of these items that have been, shall we say, put on the shelf, ignore the filibuster, which Democrats are telling us they're going to do anyway, and pass what is necessary, including all the federal judges that are waiting? 00:48:37 Speaker 6: I can't believe he agreed to eight. 00:48:39 Speaker 7: I mean, Senator Thune needs to cancel Thanksgiving break just like Bernie Moreno, our US Senator in Ohio has pledged to do. And work on overdrive weekends and everything else cuz these boys took off time and they didn't win. So they need to get it done now. The number one thing, we have to put a vote again on the Ratepayer Protection Act. 00:48:59 Speaker 6: It failed. 00:49:01 Speaker 7: But Senator John Husted is showing what affordability means so that no American should have to pay for utility rates of data centers. That is a number one affordability issue. Put them on record, put them on notice, put every Democrat on defense. We have to make sure our Senate nominations for every single judge that President Trump has out there to the other nominations that are pending get done. This has been a do nothing Senate and it's thanks to John soon. He can't close, he can't deliver the fact that we don't have anybody else running against him makes me want to rip my hair out. How are

we supposed to say we're fighting for the American people when we're only going to. 00:49:41 Speaker 6: Work eight days? I mean, you and I are working. It's November 10th. 00:49:44 Speaker 7: We're working every day and you're texting me on weekends. We need more action through these individuals or I want them to retire. This is why I said in the opening, I don't want a merry-go-round. Many of these people lost because they didn't deliver. And many of them should have won because they wanted to deliver. So now's the time to hit reset. If John Thune wants eight days, then I want him out. 00:50:07 Speaker 1: I want eight days a week to quote the Beatles and John Lennon, eight days a week. I work eight days a week. Lastly, about a minute remaining, Maya Cook, data centers should be a job creator and a net positive for utility expenses. And at this point, there's been data centers, especially Ohio and Kansas, a lot there. Oklahoma, yes. Texas, yes. And put a few guardrails around the data centers. But Governor Hinojosa to be, and also Governor Amy Acton, are going to issue a moratorium on all data centers, which is going to rise up utility expenses. And so give me about a minute of why data centers are important. 00:50:44 Speaker 7: Data centers are the future and how we're going to battle AI. But there have to be not just a couple restrictions, massive guardrails. I look at data centers the same way I looked when there was fracking in Ohio. If companies wanted to come in and drill on our land, than they were going to beautify. They were going to pay taxes. They don't need exemptions here. They need to pay their fair share, and I am 100% for that. 00:51:10 Speaker 6: And they need to continue to give back and make. 00:51:12 Speaker 7: Sure that our rates never go up higher. That same rubric can be used for data centers. Make sure they're paying electricity costs. Make sure they're paying for the communities surrounding them. But allow them. 00:51:23 Speaker 6: To do their jobs and to build and grow and thrive. 00:51:26 Speaker 7: And we can have those discussions in terms of what communities they should be in. But There's a transparency here that Amy Acton and Democrats are going to miss. Ohio will miss out on a workforce and a tremendous economic opportunity if we turn our backs to something like data centers. 00:51:44 Speaker 1: Mayor Cook, the fight of Ohio today is the fight of America tomorrow. And once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's do this every couple months. I love your energy. I love your intelligence. I love your knowledge. I love your vision. And maybe one day you'll jump in a political office yourself. Let's see what happens in the future. Maya Cook, once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Meg, you're a great American. Thank you. 00:52:06 Speaker 6: Thank you so much. 00:52:07 Speaker 1: God bless America. Data centers are important. I can only imagine the Democrat Party about 70 years

ago when Eisenhower said, I want to build an interstate highway system. Democrats would say, who needs that? We don't need all that stuff. It's not in my backyard. I-75, not in my backyard. Bill Cunningham, NewsRadio 700, WLW. 00:52:29 Speaker 8: They're depictions of the field goal uprights on the scoreboard. That is a foul for unsportsmanlike conduct against Miami. 00:52:38 Speaker 1: Not the distance to the goal. Wow. 00:52:42 Speaker 9: So on the video board, they had pictures of like four field goal posts. 00:52:51 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a look at that, but I don't know. You know, I've been doing this a long time. I don't know if I've ever seen this called ever. And check this out. Of course, I'm listening, watching the game. 00:53:14 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:53:22 Speaker 1: Yes, largely because of Rocky. I like Miami. I like OU. Tom Brennan. 00:53:26 Speaker 10: You turn it off and it was 17-0? 00:53:28 Speaker 4: We got to support our guy, Rocky Borman. 00:53:31 Speaker 1: Yes, it was over. We do? Was it over? 00:53:33 Speaker 11: Yes. 00:53:34 Speaker 10: Well, I guess in probably many people's mind, but then all of a sudden Miami comes up with 34 unanswered points and Tom Brennan was not happy. Because I played the Miami fight song this morning. 00:53:46 Speaker 1: Yeah, get it ready. I took it right to him. I listened to him. 00:53:49 Speaker 10: Because if it was OU winning, he would have buried me. So I let him have it. 00:53:53 Speaker 1: Tell me the ruling on the... And by the way, the field goal by OU. 00:53:57 Speaker 6: Yeah, what the heck? 00:53:59 Speaker 1: They put the. 00:54:01 Speaker 12: Field. 00:54:02 Speaker 1: What you call it is there. 00:54:04 Speaker 10: Goal post is up there. And then all of a sudden on the video board, they had like... three or four different angles of goalposts, and you couldn't. 00:54:12 Speaker 1: Tell where the regular goalposts. Yes, you could. Well, then they got a penalty. A 15-yard split. Yeah, but you know what? 00:54:20 Speaker 10: It didn't make any difference. Miami overcame 17-0. They lost their quarterback. A true freshman helps them lead the way to the victory last night. From Deer Park High School. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: Is that who it is? I don't know. 00:54:34 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 00:54:35 Speaker 12: You just love to plug Deer Park. 00:54:36 Speaker 1: I think he's from California. 00:54:37 Speaker 10: Deshante Jones, 115 yards and two touchdowns. Amorian Knightley returns an interception, 58 yards. And OU is now bowl eligible at 6-4 as they declaw the Bobcats and send them home all the way back to Athens. 00:54:56 Speaker 1: 34 unanswered points. 34 unanswered. It's 17-7 at halftime. And then that was it. Columbus, I'm sorry. Well, I don't know what to say. He didn't want to go to Ohio State. You mean to tell me that a field goal kicker will look not at the goal post, but 50 yards behind the goal post. 00:55:18 Speaker 10: I thought it was a pretty good idea for Miami to do that because it was kind of messing the guy up. 00:55:23 Speaker 12: You know they've been. 00:55:24 Speaker 4: Doing that goal post graphic for games now. 00:55:28 Speaker 12: This was not the first time. 00:55:29 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know what? 00:55:32 Speaker 10: Miami won. That's all the people worry about. Unless you're Tom Brenneman. Or Ken Brew. 00:55:37 Speaker 1: What about Ken Brew? Well, he's probably not too happy either. Oh, he used the number two party school in Ohio. How do you know? That's what I read somewhere. That's what Ken Brew told me. 00:55:48 Speaker 10: Willie, the Stooge Report is a proud service of your local Temstar heating and air conditioning dealers. Temstar, quality you can feel in beautiful southeastern Indiana. Call Joe Eckstein at Eckstein Heating and Cooling at 812-932-7000. 2026. What about Chris Wilson? You forgot about him. 00:56:06 Speaker 1: We'll get to him in a minute. Before we get to that. We want to thank Dorothy Lane Market. Talk about this. This is wonderful. 00:56:12 Speaker 10: We had an early Thanksgiving meal delivered to us today from Dorothy Lane Market. 00:56:17 Speaker 1: Dorothy Lane herself came in. 00:56:18 Speaker 5: Yes. 00:56:20 Speaker 1: Let's see. 00:56:20 Speaker 10: They had old-fashioned cornbread stuffing, mashed potatoes, turkey gravy, sweet potato casserole, that Cassie's still eating at her desk. 00:56:33 Speaker 12: Get my name right. I'm on this segment every day. 00:56:36 Speaker 1: Well, whatever. 00:56:37 Speaker 12: For like a month now. 00:56:39 Speaker 1: They had gelatin salad. Don't think about anything else. She's thinking about food. Leave them alone. Turkey, yeah. You're taking.... 00:56:47 Speaker 10: Grandma's Tobias pumpkin and pecan pies, Willie. 00:56:51 Speaker 1: See, young men are in a porn. He's into reading about food. 00:56:53 Speaker 5: Wait. 00:56:54 Speaker 10: Make sure that you get the reservation deadline for the fully cooked Thanksgiving meal at Dorothy Lane Market Friday, November 20th. 00:57:02 Speaker 1: When? 00:57:03 Speaker 10: You got to RSVP at DorothyLane.com slash RSVP. 00:57:08 Speaker 1: You got to ask Dorothy. She's there. She's there to help you with Thanksgiving. She'll pick up the phone. 00:57:14 Speaker 10: So if Cassie has some kind of problem that she can't cook with a you-know-what, ask Dorothy. 00:57:18 Speaker 12: Are you saying I can't cook, Zach? O-M-G. 00:57:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:57:23 Speaker 1: You know what O-M-G means? Let's see. 00:57:25 Speaker 3: Rude. 00:57:25 Speaker 10: And the third Thanksgiving menu favorites, Willie, are made right there. 00:57:29 Speaker 1: They're made. At Dorothy Lane Market. Handmade by Dorothy. Bingo. Get it done. Now, I'm glad you're here. 00:57:34 Speaker 6: Me too. 00:57:35 Speaker 1: I'm watching this episode. This is on what happened at Cornell. 00:57:38 Speaker 6: The Big Red. 00:57:39 Speaker 1: The Big Red. And things are still percolating there. I'm

watching a fraternity at Ohio State spray lighter fluid on two pledges, set them on fire. 00:57:49 Speaker 12: Wait, why did you think of me when you were watching this? 00:57:51 Speaker 1: I thought about you on fire. I bring you fire. I'm thinking about you. I figured you were just in college last weekend. What are you laughing about? Don't look at me. You just graduated. 00:58:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:58:00 Speaker 1: But here, these two college kids just show their... strut stuff that you get filled with lighter fluid and set on fire that's something like pat mcafee would do that's funny stupid so the kids are running around with third degree burns on fire and of course the frat brothers have their camera have their phones out recording it and laughing both of them are now in third and hospitals third degree burns can you explain that to me they get into the fraternity I think fraternities should be disbanded. Well, everybody was like laughing and clapping and stuff. Isn't that funny? And you just laughed too. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. Cassie, did he laugh? 00:58:38 Speaker 5: No. 00:58:39 Speaker 1: Thank you. 00:58:40 Speaker 12: Have you ever read Lord of the Flies? 00:58:42 Speaker 1: I've heard of it and I've read it. 00:58:43 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:58:44 Speaker 11: Read it. 00:58:45 Speaker 3: Or Audible. 00:58:46 Speaker 12: Or Audible. Books are now. You just have to listen to them. You don't even have to read them. 00:58:50 Speaker 1: Is that Huxley? She thinks we're illiterate? I couldn't spell them. Lord of the Flies. 00:58:57 Speaker 12: Okay, but it's a cult mentality. 00:58:58 Speaker 1: It's a baseball thing. Lord of the Flies. 00:59:01 Speaker 12: No, Lord of the Flies is about these boys. 00:59:04 Speaker 4: It's about these boys that end up living alone together on an island. 00:59:08 Speaker 1: The bros in Saudi Arabia. 00:59:10 Speaker 2: Other. 00:59:10 Speaker 10: Well, that's what's going to happen to me and you when Kamala Harris becomes president of the United States. We're going to go to Madagascar and train Komodo dragons for the circus. 00:59:19 Speaker 1: Speak for yourself, big boy. I thought you said you were going to go with me. I'll go with you. 00:59:23 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:59:23 Speaker 1: I like to breed Komodo dragons for a living. 00:59:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:59:25 Speaker 1: But tell me, you're like a college kid almost. 00:59:29 Speaker 4: No, but I would like to say I'm still young. But anyway, I think there's this mentality when you're pledging that they get lost in it, especially boys. They egg each other on and they manipulate each other and they, They sort of gaslight each other into thinking, you have to do this to become one of us. 00:59:50 Speaker 12: And I think people get lost in it. 00:59:51 Speaker 1: Be set on fire. Third degree burns. 00:59:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a weird mentality when you're pledging a fraternity or sorority. 00:59:57 Speaker 12: You become. 00:59:59 Speaker 4: So enamored in it. I don't even know how to explain it. 01:00:02 Speaker 12: It's a weird thing. It shouldn't happen. I don't agree with it. 01:00:05 Speaker 1: What did you do when you got into a fraternity? I never got in one. I wouldn't go to one. I wouldn't be in an organization that would welcome me as a member. You kidding me? I wouldn't be set on fire. Am I right? 01:00:15 Speaker 12: No, that's insane. I mean, I'm not condoning this at all. 01:00:18 Speaker 1: That's insane. Well, then they videotape it. It's like, well, nobody's going to find out. 01:00:23 Speaker 12: Yeah, the evidence is everywhere. 01:00:25 Speaker 1: Oh, you got third-degree burns. What happened? 01:00:27 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. 01:00:28 Speaker 1: I just light myself on fire. You send your kid to college, and you have to visit with a burns unit. 01:00:31 Speaker 12: There must be more to this story, though. 01:00:33 Speaker 10: I'd like to know more. Yeah, $ 25, 000 a year, and the kid's laying in a hospital with burns all over his legs. 01:00:38 Speaker 1: Just this song, I bring you fire, da-da-da. 01:00:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:00:41 Speaker 1: I don't get it. How about light my fire? 01:00:43 Speaker 4: I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt because this sounds so stupid that there had to have been something that went awry. 01:00:51 Speaker 1: You know what? 01:00:51 Speaker 10: They'll blame the football team for all this because they stink. And now all of a sudden they do this, and I guarantee you there's going to be a connection. 01:01:00 Speaker 1: When you squirt lighter fluid on somebody and put them a light, what do you think is going to happen? They should be criminally charged with with felonious assault and have to lock them up, disband the fraternity, take a bulldozer and knock down the building. Same thing should happen. Any fraternity that does that. There's several kids every year that die, women and men and fraternity pranks. And they, you know, pledge. 01:01:27 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:01:28 Speaker 1: Hell night. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: I agree. 01:01:29 Speaker 1: I'm not saying. Did you go to NYU? 01:01:31 Speaker 12: I was in a sorority at NYU. 01:01:34 Speaker 1: What did you have to do? 01:01:35 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:01:36 Speaker 1: Run around naked? What happened? 01:01:37 Speaker 4: I think the worst thing I ever had to do was get up on a bar and sing karaoke. And I was not good at karaoke. And I had to sing the Enrique Iglesias song, Will You Be My Hero? 01:01:48 Speaker 12: Or I Can Be Your Hero. And it was not good. 01:01:51 Speaker 1: Get that ready, Sheriff. 01:01:52 Speaker 10: I will never sing for you guys. You're going to relive it here in just a few minutes. 01:01:57 Speaker 1: How to go in the bar. Look it up. 01:02:00 Speaker 12: People seem to be. 01:02:01 Speaker 1: See, that's okay. That's kind of funny. 01:02:03 Speaker 4: They made me feel less embarrassed than I was. But no, I didn't physically get harmed in any way when

I was pledging. Or forced to drink copious amounts of alcohol. 01:02:14 Speaker 12: That was not my experience. 01:02:16 Speaker 1: The two kids in Ole Miss took Kratom as part of some fraternity prank, and they're dead. 01:02:22 Speaker 2: Overdose. 01:02:23 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, that's heartbreaking. 01:02:24 Speaker 4: No one should want friends or to be in an organization that bad that your life is. 01:02:29 Speaker 12: On the line. 01:02:29 Speaker 1: Zach, I need some sports. Wait, give me some sports. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. 01:02:33 Speaker 1: Oh, you guys. Can you get on the table, please? Hit it. Yeah, let's go. 01:02:36 Speaker 4: I'm not standing on this table or singing this song. 01:02:39 Speaker 1: You say it, we play it. 01:02:40 Speaker 10: Hit it. 01:02:42 Speaker 1: Guys, I can't. 01:02:43 Speaker 3: I can't. 01:02:44 Speaker 12: I'm turning right red. 01:02:45 Speaker 1: This is part of your initiation. 01:02:46 Speaker 12: I'm having PTSD. 01:02:48 Speaker 1: This is your initiation into this show. Shut up. Let's hear the music. 01:02:53 Speaker 12: I only know the chorus. 01:02:55 Speaker 1: What's the chorus? 01:02:55 Speaker 12: I don't even have the words to karaoke. 01:02:57 Speaker 1: But you know the chorus. 01:02:59 Speaker 12: I will be your hero, baby. 01:03:03 Speaker 1: Save that, Dave. Can I get some sports out of you? Let's see, Willie. Xavier defeats Detroit Mercy last night by 50. 01:03:12 Speaker 3: St. 01:03:13 Speaker 1: Louis downs NKU by... 70. 01:03:17 Speaker 2: Points. 01:03:18 Speaker 1: Oh, the NKU stinks. No, they just, St. Louis is good. You lose by 70 points? Kansas dump 125 to 63. By the way, UK stinks. Well, they lost by, here it is. 01:03:28 Speaker 12: No, you guys, stop. This is so mean. 01:03:32 Speaker 3: It's not? 01:03:33 Speaker 12: I can be your hero, baby. 01:03:36 Speaker 1: Another six. 01:03:41 Speaker 12: I can kiss away the pain. 01:03:46 Speaker 6: I will stand by you forever. 01:03:48 Speaker 1: Probably until tomorrow. Or tonight. 01:03:52 Speaker 4: Go to my breath away. 01:03:55 Speaker 1: Seg, you take her breath away. How about that? 01:03:57 Speaker 4: Seg, that was specifically for you, this whole song. 01:04:00 Speaker 1: You're my hero. Let's see, Willie. 01:04:02 Speaker 10: Closer, Emilio Pagan. Willie was declined by the Reds for $ 10 million. 01:04:06 Speaker 2: What happened? 01:04:07 Speaker 1: He signed with the Detroit Tigers for one year for $ 11 million. So he got a raise. He went out of Cincinnati for a million bucks. 01:04:13 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:04:14 Speaker 10: Pat Murphy's the National League manager a year, third year in a row. Bengals update brought to you by Midwestern Plumbing. My good friend Chris Wilson. 01:04:22 Speaker 1: Don't forget him. Who is there before even you hang up the phone, if you call him. Committed to guaranteed customer satisfaction. His daughter's got a scholarship soccer to Western Carolina. 01:04:32 Speaker 12: Oh, congrats. That's awesome. 01:04:35 Speaker 10: Bengals back at work today, getting ready for that Sunday night clash at Paycourse Stadium against those Steelers. 01:04:41 Speaker 1: Who day? Let's see. What else is going on here? You have no idea. Congrats to, let's see, Seton, Indian Hill, and Marymount for winning, and they're going to the state semifinals. What about St. Ursula? 01:04:53 Speaker 2: St. 01:04:53 Speaker 1: Ursula lost to Hudson. 01:04:55 Speaker 2: Oh, wow. 01:04:56 Speaker 1: Three to two. Not bad. 01:04:57 Speaker 10: And then tomorrow, we're going to welcome in the State Division I girls cross-country champs. 01:05:03 Speaker 1: From? Out of Milford. The home of the Eagles. And then Friday, Brossard will be honored. Bishop Brossard to you, segment. Yes. 01:05:11 Speaker 2: Yes, he is. 01:05:11 Speaker 1: Can you get us out of this segment a little bit of chorus? 01:05:14 Speaker 4: No, I've sung enough for you guys. That producer better not play that song again. 01:05:19 Speaker 1: We'll let you know in an hour if you're still on the show. 01:05:22 Speaker 12: I know, you probably lost a bunch of listeners. 01:05:26 Speaker 1: Here we go. 01:05:27 Speaker 12: You guys, I'm not singing this again. 01:05:30 Speaker 10: Oh, we're getting word there's a lot of wrecks all over the highways. 01:05:35 Speaker 1: People are listening. After you sing it. 01:05:37 Speaker 3: Would you dance? 01:05:38 Speaker 1: Would you dance? If I asked you to dance. 01:05:41 Speaker 3: Oh, yes. 01:05:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:05:43 Speaker 12: Would you run? 01:05:44 Speaker 1: Would you hump? 01:05:46 Speaker 6: No, it's run. 01:05:47 Speaker 4: Run? 01:05:48 Speaker 1: Say it, get me out of the Stooges report. 01:05:49 Speaker 3: Would you cry? 01:05:50 Speaker 10: Willie, in honor of Iglesias and Cassie, we leave you with the immortal words of the Stooges report. 01:05:59 Speaker 2: Tonight. 01:06:01 Speaker 1: At some point, the foolishness has got to stop. Governor Mike DeWine called. 01:06:05 Speaker 4: In and didn't like that, Cassie. 01:06:08 Speaker 1: He did not like my singing. 01:06:09 Speaker 6: On 700 WLW. Oh, please tell me this. 01:06:14 Speaker 12: Now won't you die? 01:06:22 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, today is Veterans Day. It was a much larger holiday. Many times schools were off. Banks were shut down. when veterans, shall we say, were more honored for their service. Not so much today. In fact, Earth Day is often more important than Veterans Day. It's sacrifices made really cannot ever be fully repaid. Some gave all and all gave some. Memorial Day is a special day we set aside for those who gave their life. But on Veterans Day, it should be a recognition of the sacrifices made. One of the great authors when it comes to the sacrifice of Americans' military service and freedom is Eric Blehm. Haunted by Heroes. He's written many books on the subject and more. And once again, on Veterans Day itself,

Eric Blem, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, what was the reason you felt inspired? You've written many books, New York Times bestsellers, Wall Street Journal kind of stuff. What inspired you to write this particular book about the veterans? 01:07:22 Speaker 5: Well, Honda by Heroes, Bill, first of all, thanks for having me, and thank you to all the veterans out there and the families who have served there, obviously a big part of our service as well. I wrote a book 15 years ago. I was writing a book about a Navy SEAL named Adam Brown in a book called Fearless, which I would venture to guess that a lot of your readers might have heard about. Adam was, if I can just give you a nutshell, he was a kid who everybody's parents loved. wanted their kids to play with. Just a great kid growing up, a lot of character. And he got addicted to drugs shortly after high school on one fateful night. 01:08:00 Speaker 3: And it's a redemption story. 01:08:02 Speaker 5: He ended up after having multiple felony accounts, went to, he was faced with prison, went to a drug treatment program. 01:08:11 Speaker 3: Turned his life around and with waivers was able to join the Navy. 01:08:14 Speaker 5: And he rose all the way to the top tier SEAL Team 6. even after he suffered some amazing, crazy injury that would end most careers. He had his right eye shot out in a training incident, and the fingers on his right hand, dominant right hand, crushed off. And he still qualified for SEAL Team 6, which was Jedi-like. And so his teammates really wanted to honor him after he was killed in combat. 01:08:42 Speaker 3: And there's a whole story behind that as well, but. 01:08:44 Speaker 5: I was fortunate enough to be picked by the family tell his story and then I met several of his teammates in the weeks following the Osama Bin Laden kill mission in Pakistan and they spoke to me to honor their brother and eight weeks after I spoke to these seven guys in particular, they were on extortion one seven, the, the helicopter that was shot down the biggest single day loss of life in the war. And, uh, so here I am 15 years later, having watched my own daughter, who was six months old at the time of my writing and research, grew up almost to a driver's license, 16 years old, and thinking of the guys who were in that group of men who spoke to me, whose daughters, some of them, they had babies at that time as well, and I just thought, it's time to tell their story. Fearless has been their silent legacy to honor their brother, and I wanted to honor them, and. 01:09:40 Speaker 3: That's what Haunted Heroes is all about in a nutshell, Bill. 01:09:44 Speaker 1: You know, earlier in the show, I talked about the viewpoint of American college students who voted. A poll was done. It's in the New York Post today that talks about the viewpoint of college kids. Really, they were born in like 01, 02, 03, 04. A shock survey reveals that about 21% of American college students say the U.S.

deserved 9-11. that the 9-11 attack, which killed nearly 3,000 people, that somehow we deserve that. And that Hassan Piker is one of the most popular speakers on college campuses. I often call it the miseducation of our country. These are shock polls that indicate that young folks, at least a chunk of them, don't have the same viewpoint about a country maybe you and I have. And 52% say they would rather live under socialism than capitalism. And another chunk of college kids prefer the system in Cuba and the Soviet Union, the old Soviet Union, to America. And so I know maybe you and I come of a different generation. But when these things are reported, I think about SEAL Team 6 Adam Brown and the sacrifices he made. I would ask you, do you think we're in trouble? Do you think that the sacrifices that Pat Tillman's, that Adam Brown's and others will not be visited upon again? 20 to 30 year olds today because they view the country differently. It's irredeemable and can't be saved. 01:11:18 Speaker 3: Wow. 01:11:19 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I recently was recruited to teach at a college campus, my old alma mater, SDSU, a writing class and a research class. And, you know, I'm both shocked and not surprised by what you just said. 01:11:34 Speaker 3: And it's horrible. There is a lot of. 01:11:37 Speaker 5: Let's just use that buzzword, misinformation, but like you said, miseducation out there. And I think that, man, we have to stay the course. 01:11:47 Speaker 3: I have to say that there's. 01:11:49 Speaker 5: A pretty good moderate side in the students that I teach, honestly, that I see. But there are plenty that think exactly like you do. Not that you do, like what you just described. And it's terrifying. Do I think we're maybe in a little bit of trouble? Uh, yeah, but I'm a, I am an optimist. 01:12:08 Speaker 3: I always think that, you know what we, I try and be. 01:12:11 Speaker 5: An optimist and depending where you live in the country, depending on, I guess who your parents are, what your, where you get your information. Uh, and honestly, like the, the books you read, the stories you hear and the ones that you pass on to people are the ones that will continue to do it. 01:12:28 Speaker 3: And that's why I'm doing it. 01:12:29 Speaker 5: I just, I want people to know, the true history, without any sort of political spin. What the ground truth is for these stories is enough to show anyone that there is a battle of good versus evil, and these guys are on the right side. 01:12:46 Speaker 1: Now, talk about Extortion 17. I recall SEAL Team 6 and others were in a helicopter. There was an RPG that hit them. Just tell the story of Extortion 17. 01:12:58 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was August 6, 2011, and they were in Wardak Province. There was a group of Army Rangers, an assault team, a platoon of Army Rangers that went after, let's just say to make it easy, a bad guy, an insurgent cell leader in the Tangy Valley. And when they went in to get him, they assaulted a compound. And during that period of time, some slipped away and were heading north up this valley. And they were not calling for assistance or like they weren't getting overrun or anything. 01:13:33 Speaker 3: They just called out saying, hey, we're. 01:13:36 Speaker 5: Not finding our guy among the dead or the people we've captured in this compound. But there was a group being seen overhead heading north up this valley. So they called in this immediate reaction force, which was Adam Brown's teammates. And they said, you know, let's find an LZ kind of ahead of this group. 01:13:57 Speaker 3: And let's cut them off. And it was all planned so quickly. 01:14:01 Speaker 5: A lot of there's a lot of conspiracy theories like, oh, they knew where we were coming and it was a trap and an ambush. 01:14:07 Speaker 3: Well, they always were ready in those valleys and in some of these areas. 01:14:12 Speaker 5: And there was an insurgent on a very unfortunate and a very lucky shot on a there's a couple of Michigan. 01:14:22 Speaker 3: No one really knows for sure, but either on a rooftop or on a ridgeline. 01:14:25 Speaker 5: That shot two RPGs and hit this CH-47 as it was coming into land. And that resulted in the single most horrible day of loss for American forces. Thirty Americans, eight Afghans, including an interpreter and a working dog, were all killed in an instant. And it was just absolutely horrible. The only day in naval special warfare history that would surpass that in loss would have been D-Day. 01:14:53 Speaker 3: Back in World War II. 01:14:56 Speaker 5: Other than that, that was the single most day lost in the war and in special operations history. And just by chance, I had sat down and interviewed seven of them extensively just before they deployed on that particular rotation to Afghanistan. And in fact, a couple of them actually said they spoke to me, they wanted to speak to me before they deployed because they understood the dangers of their job. And one in particular, Kevin Houston, nicknamed Juicy, said, you know, Eric, I could get killed on my next mission, but I want to do Adam right. 01:15:30 Speaker 3: So let's get this done. Let's let's. And that just is, as you can imagine, when I heard the news. Shocking. 01:15:38 Speaker 1: How many SEAL Team six were killed that day? How many? What's the number? 01:15:42 Speaker 5: There was a breakdown because there were the pilots of the conventional Army forces that were there as well as Air Force augmentees. 01:15:52 Speaker 3: 17, I believe, were the number of actual SEAL Team 6. 01:15:55 Speaker 5: But again, 30 Americans total, including the pilots, including the. 01:16:00 Speaker 3: Air Force PJs and CTTs. 01:16:03 Speaker 5: And the dog handler. Horrible loss. And a lot of people don't even understand the ripple effect of that. It's not just taking... people off the battlefield, warriors off the battlefield. 01:16:13 Speaker 3: It's also just the year. 01:16:14 Speaker 5:

These guys are trained at the uppermost levels, and they're going to be the ones who are mentoring and training future operators. And so it just took us a gash out of the overall community. It was called DEVGRU, Naval Special Warfare Development Group, which is the group that is otherwise known as, and now publicly known as, SEAL Team 6. At the time, You didn't even mention that word, but it's gotten out there, so I feel comfortable saying it here. 01:16:42 Speaker 1: Yes, August 6, 2011 is a day that will live in infamy. Haunted by Heroes is the book. And you have a chapter relative to the SEALs describe their personal sacrifices required particularly. And I think about what happened in Venezuela with Maduro's capture. I think SEAL team individuals were involved in that. Here we are in November of 2026. The political winds are going one direction, might go another direction in the future, who knows? But describe to the American people the ethic of SEAL Team 6 individuals and the sacrifices they make individually for their country and how they're not compensated. 01:17:26 Speaker 5: Well, the character is beyond reproach of each and every one of these men. And interestingly, as they were telling me the story, so I would understand Adam Brown's story. They talked about service, and they wanted me to understand, because, well, Adam Brown was killed in the line of duty, and one of his final requests was, if he was ever killed, let people know who I was before I became a SEAL. And, in other words, he was willing to let people know that he had once upon a time been a drug addict, and, you know, living in the gutter, stealing from his own family for his next fix. And that leads me to that word, selflessness. He was selfless in that, you know, intuitively he knew he would have been considered a hero killed in the line of duty, but he wanted people to know who he was before. And for one reason only, as his wife, his widow Kelly said, you know, I think Adam knew that this would help people. 01:18:26 Speaker 3: And we all have a lot of, you know, everybody has a skeleton in. 01:18:29 Speaker 5: Their closet, things they don't want some people to know, they don't want their kids to know. Adam was willing to let that all out there. In order to inspire people in the future. And these guys I spoke with wanted to honor Adam. It's such a redemption story. And each of them, in their own quiet way, they show how selfless they are. they were themselves. And I think, coming full circle to your original question, these guys are willing to die for any American, put themselves in harm's way. They're the guys who are called when there's a hostage situation. The book starts where I tell the story of a of a yacht that was taken over by Somali pirates. 01:19:11 Speaker 3: A lot of people haven't heard this story. In fact, I would venture to. 01:19:13 Speaker 5: Guess nobody out there in your show or very few have ever heard of the story of the sailing vessel quest. It happened about two years after the mayor of Alabama, which was captain Phillips. 01:19:25 Speaker 3: In this case, that didn't go so well, but these. 01:19:28 Speaker 5: Guys boarded a yacht underway with armed Somali pirates, holding captive Americans in broad daylight, And they literally had to just ram the yacht because it was an emergency assault. Their momentum launched them into close quarters combat, where it was all about elbows, fists, and knives. Literally, it was too close quarters for firearms. And they would do it in an instant for any of us. It's hard to imagine that mindset, but that is what they say. They say, you know, if we're killed, it's horrible for our families. But for us, it's the highest honor, and every one of them believed in their mission. 01:20:12 Speaker 1: Lastly, what responsibility do Americans have to remember not only the fallen Memorial Day, but also those who have served and are still with us? What responsibility? 01:20:23 Speaker 5: Well, I would say they say that a warrior dies twice the time that they're killed on the field of battle and the last time anyone says their name. And so for those fallen... Remember them, tell their stories. And for those still serving, just like these guys, they were serving still at the time of all they want to do is honor their brother. And I think our responsibility is to make sure the real history is told. 01:20:50 Speaker 3: You know, get people out there and see some of. 01:20:53 Speaker 5: The stories that show the evil that's out there and what we've done to stand up against it throughout history. And I think that that gives you, you know, stories are always the best way to teach. You can't tell somebody about character, but you can show them. And that's what Haunted by Heroes does at the end of the day. It honors these seven guys. And it's like a cross-section of all of SEAL Team 6. I think I couldn't, of course, write about everybody. 01:21:19 Speaker 3: These were the men who spoke to me, and I got to know intimately. 01:21:22 Speaker 5: But, boy, their character is indicative of the grander, larger force that's out there. 01:21:30 Speaker 3: Fighting for freedom around the world. 01:21:31 Speaker 1: May God bless each of them. Haunted by Heroes is the book written by Eric Blem. Be like a boy, L-E-H-M. And Eric Blem, keep doing what you're doing. The more I read about what's happening in our country, the more these kinds of books are necessary and needed. And may God bless the soul of Adam Brown. Once again, Eric Blem, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Eric, you're truly a great American. Thank you. 01:21:55 Speaker 3: Amen, Bill. Thanks for having me. 01:21:57 Speaker 1: On this veteran's day. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, News Radio 700, WLW. The previous play, there. 01:22:04 Speaker 8: Were depictions of the field goal uprights on the scoreboard. That is a foul for unsportslike conduct against Miami. 01:22:13 Speaker 1: Half the distance

to the goal. 01:22:16 Speaker 2: Wow. 01:22:17 Speaker 9: So on the video board, they had pictures of like four field goal posts. 01:22:25 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have a look at that, but I don't know. You know, I've been doing this a long time. I don't know if I've ever seen this called, ever. And check this out. 01:22:43 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:22:45 Speaker 1: I mean, look at that. You're saying that that's confusing for the kicker? 01:22:56 Speaker 3: Hello? 01:22:58 Speaker 4: Hello? 01:22:59 Speaker 3: Hello? Quiet, numbskulls. 01:23:00 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting. 01:23:01 Speaker 6: Go for it, you bonehead. 01:23:05 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. 01:23:05 Speaker 11: He set the stage last night. Still Jaeger Stadium, I imagine. Yes, Jaeger Stadium. So Ohio is fully in control of this game. They're up 14 to nothing. Drive down, they're going to get a field goal. Minimum. 01:23:19 Speaker 1: Before half, go up 17 to nothing. 01:23:21 Speaker 2: Game's over. 01:23:22 Speaker 11: Game's probably over. So they line up for the field goal. The kid misses it. He's the backup kicker. This is such a matching game. Both teams had backup kickers. Miami wound up going. 01:23:38 Speaker 1: With their fourth-string quarterback, which we'll get into in a second. 01:23:41 Speaker 11: But yeah, so this backup kicker lines up for an easy field goal, misses it, and then we're trying to wonder why the game stopped. What are the referees talking about? And they come on and say what you just heard. The video board, which I knew it was frowned upon. I didn't know it was an actual rule. To my knowledge, it's never been called in a game before. 15 yards, half the distance of the goal. I did a little research on this, so I guess you go back to... We need facts. 01:24:09 Speaker 1: What is it? For the first time. Yeah, we need facts. Let's see here. 01:24:12 Speaker 11: In a 2020 game, Oklahoma State v. 01:24:16 Speaker 1: Texas. 01:24:17 Speaker 11: Oklahoma State did something with vertical lines behind their. 01:24:22 Speaker 1: their field goal posts as well. 01:24:25 Speaker 11: So I guess after, you know, Tom Herman, who was a coach at the time, wound up kind of pitching a fit about it. 01:24:29 Speaker 1: Like, this is ridiculous. 01:24:30 Speaker 11: They talk about unsportsmanlike conduct. And so it gets passed, and it happened in the game. And we're trying to figure out exactly what happened. So then at halftime, we go and talk to the replay booth, and they're like, you know, this is a rule. They didn't say so. But I could tell by looking at them that they had been tipped off. They were ready for this. 01:24:53 Speaker 1: So Miami has done this before. Well, according to your guy, Mike McCall. Mike McCall, one of the flying tunas. Great guy. 01:25:00 Speaker 11: He was in the booth with us. He was our first and ten spotter last week and this week. He said that they had done it last week. I did not notice it because that's not anything I would be looking at. It's

not the students. It's the school itself put on a video board. I think they got hacked. 01:25:15 Speaker 1: They got hacked. 01:25:16 Speaker 11: Every camera you see during a broadcast is fake. In this case, an ESPN camera. But that was not an ESPN camera. That was something done with Miami. So did Miami know about it? Did some rogue staffer or admin guy do that? 01:25:33 Speaker 1: You could tell where it would be. Maybe Tom Brenneman. Yeah, maybe Ken Brew. Ken Brew. The two of them got together. Ken Brew and Brenneman. 01:25:39 Speaker 11: So then, to make it crazier, okay, so then Miami accepts the penalty. 01:25:44 Speaker 1: Ohio says, you know what? 01:25:45 Speaker 2: F it. 01:25:45 Speaker 1: We're going to go with a fake field goal, which. 01:25:49 Speaker 11: You know, they want to throw into a D lineman, and it's right in the bucket. He can't haul it in. The last second, a guy from Miami pulls out. So nothing happens, right? And then from that point, Miami goes on like a 34-0 run. 01:26:02 Speaker 1: How's that possible? It's not possible. It's action. It's action. Dominated completely. All of a sudden, flipola. 01:26:11 Speaker 11: Well, the turning point of the game was Caleb Heavner, Miami's quarterback, who's their third-string quarterback of the year. 01:26:18 Speaker 1: And, you know, God love him. He just couldn't get anything going. 01:26:22 Speaker 11: He gets hurt. So, Drew Bellisari comes in as a true freshman, right? Son of, what, Greg Bellisari. Uncle, you know, his uncle is Steve Bellisari, the quarterback at Ohio State. Greg Bellisari, a linebacker, right? So, the same lineage, right? The genes, everything. Good-looking quarterback, 6'3, 230. freshman, he goes in the game and just tears it up. You could tell instantly that that kid had it. 01:26:46 Speaker 1: Is he that good? He's that good. 01:26:48 Speaker 11: Turning point of the game was he scrambled, I believe it was a 37-yard run, and then they wound up scoring a play later, and from that point on, it was Miami's ballgame. 01:26:59 Speaker 1: So much fun. 01:27:00 Speaker 11: Here's the deal, though. Here's what's interesting. Now, Drew Bellisari has shown the world he can play. And he's going to start another three games here. Assuming he does well, guess what potentially could happen? 01:27:16 Speaker 1: He might go to UC. They might pay him off and come to UC. 01:27:19 Speaker 11: Some powerful school comes in, which I imagine is in the back of Chuck Martin's head, which is maybe why he didn't play him earlier. 01:27:25 Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure. Isn't that sad? He might go to Notre Dame. Maybe. How much money does the quarterback of Notre Dame make? 01:27:35 Speaker 2: A couple million. 01:27:36 Speaker 1: A couple million? 01:27:37 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:27:37 Speaker 1: What's he making in Miami? As a freshman, probably nothing, if not very much. Yeah, maybe something like that. If he's good, he leaves. If he's bad, the team loses. So that's a lose-lose for Miami. 01:27:51 Speaker 11: And it's the issue with all these G6 schools is, you know, you get a good player. You're not getting four- and five-star guys. You're getting largely three-star guys. But you see something in them, something you can develop, some traits that you can work with. And you coach them up, and they come on, and you develop them, and they play really well. And the thank you that they give you, they. 01:28:13 Speaker 3: Hit the road. 01:28:13 Speaker 2: Goodbye. 01:28:14 Speaker 1: See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya. And because it was a national game done by you, everyone around the country saw it. 01:28:20 Speaker 11: Well, now especially with people seeing how wild the game was and with the field goal thing and people going back and watching it. 01:28:27 Speaker 1: It was amazing. By the way. 01:28:30 Speaker 11: The GCL was well represented in that game. Jack Frege, he's a linebacker for Ohio, went to LaSalle High School, had an unbelievable game. Knocked two passes down with a club on his hand. Has a broken hand. He's been playing the last three weeks with a broken hand. Had a bunch of tackles, knocked down a couple balls. And Grant Lyons, formerly of St. X, defensive end for Miami, had a bunch of big plays as well. 01:28:51 Speaker 1: That's all good. I mean, I saw that call. It was a fun game. God, it was a fun game. 01:28:54 Speaker 3: Good crowd, huh? 01:28:56 Speaker 1: It was a decent crowd. 01:28:58 Speaker 11: Midweek Mac, about all you could hope for. Who had more fans, OU or Miami? 01:29:03 Speaker 1: Miami did. But OU was well-represented. Tom Brennahan was all upset. You played for him the fight song of Miami. And Ohio came into the game. They had won six straight. They were undefeated 5-0 in the Mac. They got to beat Miami. Should be 17-0. Then they get. 01:29:21 Speaker 1: Way late. You get walloped. Segment. It was... The week before, the same thing had happened. Miami was rolling. I believe they were up 14-0. 01:29:32 Speaker 11: 14-0. 01:29:33 Speaker 1: On Buffalo. Over Buffalo. 01:29:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:29:36 Speaker 1: It was down and out. 01:29:37 Speaker 11: And they just... Miami, same thing. Missed a field goal. They could have put them away. Didn't work. 01:29:43 Speaker 2: Boom. 01:29:44 Speaker 1: Here comes Buffalo back. Wins the game in overtime. A field goal, right? 01:29:48 Speaker 11: These boxing games are fun. Yeah, it's field goals. And the kid had made the field goal. Buffalo kicked the field goal, put it through in overtime. Miami kicks the field goal, makes it. Guys offside. They move it back five yards, and you know what happens. Doinks it off the upright. 01:30:02 Speaker 1: They lose. What about the 60-yard field goals a week or so with Indiana? Unbelievable. College football, I think, is so much better. Unless you have a good NFL game, college football is much better. 01:30:14 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, different people like different things, but it's, you know, there's

so much parity now in college football, which is both good and bad. It's maddening for these powerhouse teams because they're used to just, you know, having a great team and having depth and, okay, you have an injury, and now that's the biggest thing the portal has done is hurt the depth, especially of the top teams, of every team, but especially the top teams. Usually, Alabama could lose two of their starting offensive line, and guess what? They're pulling four or two more You know, four or five-star guys off the bench, they go in there, don't miss a beat. Well, now those guys are not sitting around. They're going somewhere else and making money. 01:30:51 Speaker 1: Why don't you get a hold of your coach, Freeman Notre Dame, and tell him about this quarterback of Miami. Why don't you become his agent and make 4%? I don't want to do that because I want Miami to be good. Well, say, give me you, Stooges. You can get us into the Stooges report. 01:31:03 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, the Stooges report is a proud service of our local Tempstar heating and air conditioning dealers. 01:31:09 Speaker 1: Tempstar, quality you can feel in beautiful Milford, the home of one main gallery. Call Baker Heating at 513-831-5124. We have Milford coming in tomorrow at 1.30. Is that correct, segment? Correct, Willie. The Division I girls state cross-country champs. I'm going to run around the table. 01:31:28 Speaker 11: The thing about cross-country, I always pondered this. You know, you watch them at practice, and they just run. It's like, all right, Coach, what are we going to do today? 01:31:37 Speaker 1: We're going to run. All right, what about tomorrow? What about a play? We're going to run. How about Thursday? 01:31:42 Speaker 3: No. 01:31:43 Speaker 1: We're going to run. We're going to run. Every day, that's what you do. 01:31:45 Speaker 2: You run. 01:31:46 Speaker 1: It's like playing golf. The greatest job in the world is a college golfer on a scholarship. What do you do every day? Play golf. Go in the sun and play golf. Better than wrestling. Would you agree? Yeah. 01:31:56 Speaker 3: Better. 01:31:57 Speaker 1: Yeah. In many ways, better than football, too. You're just smashing each other's faces for weeks and weeks and weeks. We're going to play golf. Golf. 01:32:05 Speaker 2: Right. 01:32:05 Speaker 3: What? 01:32:06 Speaker 1: What can go wrong? 01:32:07 Speaker 11: But at least in golf, okay, today we're going to work on putting. Tomorrow we're going to work on chipping. Cross country, what are we going to do today, coach? 01:32:14 Speaker 2: Run. 01:32:15 Speaker 1: You know, Mike McCall is a good putter. He's one of the two. And by the way, he filled me in on you as a golfer. Where do you win? Where do you win the match? Let him answer. He said, and this is a credit to you. Let him answer. He said, Willie's a good golfer, but he. 01:32:28 Speaker 11: His greatest attribute is he wins the game before the match even starts. 01:32:33 Speaker 1: Don't tell

him that. 01:32:33 Speaker 11: Because apparently, in true Willie fashion, he gets all these deals going and confuses you with all this math and all this stuff. 01:32:41 Speaker 1: Like the hot tuxes. Yeah, exactly. All this sort of stuff. 01:32:43 Speaker 11: So he basically, talk about unsportsmanlike conduct, fixes the game. 01:32:49 Speaker 1: Essentially before it even starts. I massage the truth. You manipulate. I massage the truth. Massage and manipulate are two different. 01:32:55 Speaker 11: All I can say is the tuners are pretty good. Mike's a great guy. He did a good job for us. 01:33:00 Speaker 1: I got to see where the handicaps fall on the match. And if they fall near the end, I adjust it to the beginning. And it's smart. Good for you. You're winning with your brain. 01:33:08 Speaker 11: Go double or nothing. Double or nothing, tuna. And the tunas always say, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they go right in the tank as a tuna. 01:33:14 Speaker 1: And all you do is win about $ 20. 01:33:15 Speaker 3: I know. 01:33:15 Speaker 1: We don't play for them. You think you won the Masters. I think you win more than $ 20. Not really. I mean, I've played and won $ 2, 000 or $ 3, 000 with guys, but now, the last 20 years, it's a 1-1-2. Yeah, because you're fixing, excuse me, massaging, excuse me, manipulating the matches. You mean the economy has hit your golf game? 01:33:35 Speaker 5: Yes. 01:33:36 Speaker 1: No $ 2, 000 or $ 3, 000? 01:33:36 Speaker 10: It's probably $ 5, 000 or $ 10, 000? 01:33:38 Speaker 1: If you want to lose $ 50, look them in the eye and take that $ 50 bill. Whose picture's on a $ 50 bill segment? Is it U.S. 01:33:45 Speaker 3: Grant? 01:33:46 Speaker 1: Good for you, say. I may ask that tomorrow to those Milford girls. I may ask them a few questions. See how they do. Ask them what they do at practice every day. 01:33:55 Speaker 5: Run. 01:33:56 Speaker 1: What do you do next day? What do you do? Run. What do you do during a meet? 01:34:00 Speaker 5: Run. Run. 01:34:01 Speaker 3: Well, what do you. 01:34:02 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all you can do. Not as good as golf. What are you going to do? You know, and it's like... It's hot a little bit. And today we're going to work on the, you know, short game. It's flat, short game. And hills. 01:34:10 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:34:10 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like a track. 01:34:13 Speaker 10: It's like you're running up and down hills and this and that. 01:34:15 Speaker 11: The best you can hope for in cross country is you get to run somewhere different. And not the same course. But largely it's the same course, depending on what facilities you have. 01:34:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 01:34:25 Speaker 11: Again, I give those folks that do that, those girls and those guys that do that. 01:34:28 Speaker 1: A lot of credit. That's a hard sport. You better hurry up and get me into the studio. You're not doing your job, Seg, man. Bengals Update, Willie, brought to you by Midwestern Plumbing. My

good friend Chris Wilson doing things right the first time. Bengals back at work today getting ready for those Steelers on Sunday night. Bengals! 01:34:44 Speaker 10: Duke Tobin did not speak to the media. He spoke through Zach Taylor today saying they tried their best to get some players from yesterday in. But nothing worked out after the debacle. You went after them this morning with Tom Brennan. You went after the Bengals, didn't you? 01:34:58 Speaker 1: I just want to point out. 01:34:59 Speaker 11: The fact that the other team, the other leaders in the AFC, the Jaguars... The Broncos, Chiefs, the Bills, they were able to make some additions to their team that bolsters their roster. And here's my thing. And I put this out on Twitter. I'll ask you guys this. Let's say, because the fear is, okay, the Bengals are like, okay, we make a move. We mortgage our future. We trade away some future first, second round picks. And it doesn't work out. The guy we bring in is a total bust. Would you or any fan be upset? Or would you say, you know what? I'll give the Bengals some damn credit. 01:35:33 Speaker 1: They went all in. 01:35:34 Speaker 11: They pushed their chips in the middle. It didn't work out, but I give them credit for not being conservative. I feel like that's what the fan base would have directed. 01:35:41 Speaker 6: I feel very strongly about that. 01:35:43 Speaker 1: That's what Mo said, too. Does that make any sense? None at all. I'm looking at this spread for Sunday night. What is the spread on DraftKings? Steelers at Bengals. Go. What is it? Bengals plus two and a half. Cincinnati minus three and a half. 01:35:59 Speaker 3: Really? Really. Really? 01:36:01 Speaker 1: What the? But they're at home. They get three for being at home, right? I guess. And the over-under is 49 and a half. I think it's going to be a high-scoring game. The weather's going to be perfect. Aaron Rodgers. They've won four in a row. So it's too hot. Well, it's first place in the AFC North. The angle's in the driver's seat. Win this game. And win this game. If not, it's going to be a little bofungula. Segment, give me some sports. That's about it, Willie. Let's see. By the way, guys, real quick. 01:36:30 Speaker 11: It is rule 116 that, quote, persons subject to the rules, including bands and audio-video lighting system operators, shall not create any noise or distraction that prohibits a team from hearing its signals or obstructs play. Also involved, rule 142-D, no equipment may be used to confuse opponents. 01:36:54 Speaker 1: That was the rules they went to last night with the. 01:36:56 Speaker 3: Field goal thing. 01:36:57 Speaker 1: So the video with the uprights, the kid knows where to kick the ball, is in between the hash marks, and there's the large 22-foot-tall goal post right in front of him. 01:37:07 Speaker 3: Right. 01:37:07 Speaker 1: And he's going to be confused by what's 50 yards behind the goal post? 01:37:10 Speaker 11: It's pretty egregious. I mean, it's not like you can't make the case for anything. I mean, it was like six vertical yellows. 01:37:20 Speaker 1: Your shot from the other end zone almost like. 01:37:24 Speaker 10: The real goal post actually disappeared. 01:37:29 Speaker 11: Look, I know you say focus on the ball, focus on the upright, but I'm sure at some point your peripheral vision catches other stuff. 01:37:38 Speaker 1: The Democrats put that in, I guarantee. I agree. What's on the big show today, if anything? We actually got a lot of stuff today. You better. We got Nick Farabaugh from Pittsburgh. I'm going to join the. 01:37:50 Speaker 11: Show, talk and break down the Steelers-Bengals game this weekend. 01:37:53 Speaker 1: We have Bill Bangert, your good friend. I like Bill Bangert. 01:37:56 Speaker 11: He was over in Madrid for the Spain trip. We're going to talk about all the sights, the sounds, the things. That'll be pretty cool. At 4 o'clock, my good friend Matt Wiedemer owns Beat Personal Training, the best fitness gym in the tri-state. He is involved in hosting a powerlifting competition. There's some big-time guys, some strong guys lifting thousands of pounds today. 01:38:18 Speaker 1: It's coming up this weekend. He's going to talk about that. What about Anatoly? The weightlifter, Anatoly from Turkey. I like his things on YouTube. He's a little guy, 165. He lifts like he can bench press 420. pounds 30 times. So he goes into a gym as a janitor, looking like a janitor. Oh, I've seen that guy. That guy's hilarious. He's hilarious. Yeah. Now, what else you got? 01:38:39 Speaker 3: Let's see. 01:38:39 Speaker 11: We got Jason Williams at 435 who wrote an article about the Bengals. 01:38:44 Speaker 1: Sure did. What happened yesterday. And then you're joining us at 5. Oh, today's Wednesday. Man, what a power Wednesday. Look at that. Is it getting any better than that? Marconi, here we come. There's Judge Rodgers. Hey, look, the judge here has related multiple actions. They voted her in and she suspended. She suspended. There was a Democrat female elected to South Carolina under a federal criminal indictment. Don't let the facts get in the way of your emotions. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I brought that up. Segment, can you get me out of the Stoops report, please? Willie, on this Wednesday, November 11th, we say thank you and happy Veterans Day. 01:39:18 Speaker 2: Amen. 01:39:19 Speaker 1: To all the veterans out there, past and present and future. 01:39:22 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:39:23 Speaker 1: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stoops report. Well, thank the truckers. Is that Mike DeWine? 01:39:33 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:39:34 Speaker 1: He's thanking the truckers. We don't have a trucker. You're hungry. Naked and sleepy. And can't sing like Cassie. That's what the bozos told me one time. Rocky, thank you very much. 01:39:42 Speaker 2: Thank you. 01:39:43 Speaker 1: Segment, thank you. 01:39:43 Speaker 2: Yes, sir. 01:39:44 Speaker 1: 700. 01:39:44 Speaker 3: WLW.