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This case haunts me because it happened very close to
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where I grew up. When Lindsay Booziak was murdered, I
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was living on the mainland, away from Vancouver Island and
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fifteen years old. It had been five years since I'd
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driven along these streets with my family. But this is
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right around the time that I became interested in true
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crime stories, and Lindsay's always struck me. I began imagining
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what her final moments were like, how scared she must
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have been, and how somebody could do that to a
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young woman who was simply doing her job. Lindsay's murder
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is completely senseless, and to me still feels solvable. We
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have perpetrator, descriptions, witnesses, and a verified timeline, but no names.
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Someone out there is that missing link. Someone out there
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knows who did this. Lindsay Elizabeth Booziak was born in Victoria,
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British Columbia, on November two, nineteen eighty three, two parents,
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Jeff and Evelyn. She also had a sister named Sarah,
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and Lindsay was described as energetic, sociable, fun loving, and
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a ray of sunshine. Quote. Lindsay's zest for life was contagious,
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and many dear friends she met along her journey were
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a testament to her generous and caring spirit. She exuded warmth,
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had a keen sense of fashion, and infectious laugh and
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a smile that lit up a room end quote. And
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that may sound cliche, but she did really seem like
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a beautiful person inside and out. Lindsay was incredibly ambitious
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and decided to pursue a career in real estate. Her
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way with people and her deep care for their needs
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made her successful in the role, and by two thousand
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and eight she was working with Remax, Commos and Realty.
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Not only was her career advancing, but she was in
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a serious relationship with her boyfriend, Jason Zelo. Jason came
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from a wealthy family that owned a real estate business,
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and he met her while they were both getting their licenses.
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They had recently moved in together into a condo, and
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it was starting to feel like she was taking off
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all of the boxes of the grown up life that
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she was creating for herself, the rewards for working so hard,
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and the two kind of became a little power couple
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in the industry. In late two thousand and eight, Lindsay
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received a call from a woman who claimed that she
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and her husband were moving to Victoria and urgently wanted
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a million dollar home. The number was from a Vancouver
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area code, and the woman reportedly spoke in a strong
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Mexican or Spanish accent, something Lindsay and others would later report.
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The caller said that Lindsay had been referred by somebody,
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though never gave the name of the person, nor did
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anyone from Lindsay's circle come forward. She obviously wanted to
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think whoever it was for such an opportunity, because you know,
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real estate careers are built on referrals. Lindsay couldn't find
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who had referred the woman, though, and started to believe
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that it was all a little too good to be true,
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and was understandably apprehensive about the potential sale. Over the
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next few days, ten calls were made between this mysterious
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Vancouver person and Lindsay, going over the couple's wish list
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and possible areas that might be good for them to
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start viewing in. The caller wanted a new builds and
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preferably one that could be moved into right away i e.
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Vacant now and a potentially quiet neighborhood. On Friday, February first,
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Lindsay emailed over some property suggestions to the couple, and
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then a ten minute occurred shortly after, where it's likely
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they made plans to meet at the home on seventeen
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oh two, Desuza Place and the sought after Gordon Head
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area of Victoria. The home really was beautiful to be
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known for such a tragedy. Now, at seven fifteen PM,
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Jason's mother, Shirley Zelo, arrived at the couple's condo and
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overheard this conversation between Lindsay and the mysterious woman. They
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made plans to meet at the home the next day
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at around five thirty. Apparently the couple was going to
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be flying in from Vancouver the next day. Lindsay was
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conflicted as she was supposed to be going to Vancouver
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herself for a friend's bachelorette party that she was involved
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in planning, but meeting the couple at five thirty meant
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that she wouldn't be over on the mainland until later.
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She was, however, feeling a little bit stressed about money
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at the time, and the commission on a one million
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dollar sale was much needed, so she agreed to meet them.
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Lindsay and Jason talked about this at around midnight when
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he returned home from playing hockey, and as an attempt
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to help, he even offered to do the showing for
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Lindsay so that she could still go on the very
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early but if she was going to make the sale,
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she wanted to do it herself. Lindsay was very much
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about earning her own way still, though, something about the
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interaction and the possible sale fell off to Lindsay. The
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next day, on February second, Lindsay stopped by the Remax
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office on Chatterton Way, where she worked between three pm
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and four pm. She was going to be meeting Jason
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for a quick lunch at a restaurant called Sauce in
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downtown Victoria before her showing with the mysterious Vancouver couple.
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While at the office, she admitted that she was feeling
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really weird about the showing to her coworkers. As an
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attempt to help, one coworker ran the phone number to
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see if they could find any record of the couple
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working with any other real estate agents of Victoria, but
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no identities came back. At lunch, Lindsay was still feeling uneasy,
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and once again Jason offered to show the home for
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her if she was feeling that off about it, but
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she told him that it was okay and that she
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was going to do the showing and then catch the
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late ferry from Victoria to Vancouver to make the last
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half of her friend's bachelorette. The couple paid for their
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lunch bill at four twenty four pm, and at around
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four thirty Lindsay arrived at her condo to get ready
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for the showing. Jason went to a meeting about a
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sale of his own, and when Lindsay left a head
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to the million dollar home in Gordon Head. She called
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Jason to let him know that she was on her
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way and he said that he would meet her there
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and make sure that everything went well. Lindsay agreed to
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him meeting her there, but told her that it was
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important that she made the sale herself. Right after this,
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Jason made plans to have dinner with his friend Cohen
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Oatman and said that he would pick him up on
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the way. They would go check on Lindsey, and then
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they would head to dinner. Cohen parked his car at
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an auto shop called CHC Autographs, and security footage shows
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him leaving with Jason at five point thirty pm. Jason
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called Lindsay to ask for directions to the house, but
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their conversation was cut short when Lindsay said, Oh, I've
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got to go. They're here, and Lindsey texted him the address.
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Jason texted Lindsay and said he was just a couple
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minutes away, and Jason and Cohen arrived at the house
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at around five point forty five pm. According to records,
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Lindsey never opened that text message from Jason. As they
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were turning onto the street, Jason saw a male figure
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through one of them the houses front windows, indicating to
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him that the couple was still doing or showing Lindsay's
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black BMW is in the driveway, but there were no
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other cars on the street, initially, something Jason thought was strange.
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For about ten minutes, the two men waited in Jason's
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car before Jason texted Lindsay and said are you okay,
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but he got no reply. Worried, he tried calling her
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and still got no reply, so he and Cohen got
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out of the car and walked towards the house at
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around six pm. The front door was locked, which Jason
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also thought was strange. During showings, the front door is
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primarily left open. He rang the doorbell and then continued
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to ring it, getting no answer and hearing nothing inside.
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He tried calling Lindsey again and got no answer. So
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at six oh five pm, Jason called nine one one
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and explained the situation situation to the
dispatcher, saying that
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Lindsay had been kind of scared to do the showing
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and he had gone to meet her there but was
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now locked out and he was worried about her. Dispatch
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said that they would send somebody over to check it out.
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Cohen and Jason then walked around to the back of
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the house to see if there was a basement entrance
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or a back door, and noted that the back door
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was left wide open. Jason boosted Cohen over the fence
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and then went back to the front of the house
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after Cohen unlocked it from inside. According to Cohen, they
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saw bloody footprints, and Jason raced upstairs to where he
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found Lindsay in the master bedroom, laying in a pool
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of blood. A second nine one one call was made
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at six eleven PM. Jason desperately tried to perform CPR,
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but sadly, at just twenty four years old, Lindsay was
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already dead when police arrived on the scene. They concluded
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that Lindsay had been attacked between five thirty eight and
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five forty one pm, because an outgoing pocket dial was
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made on Lindsay's BlackBerry at five forty one PM, likely
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as an impact of her attack. Her time of death
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would later be confirmed at around five point forty and
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she had died from blood loss from multiple stab wounds.
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According to reports, Lindsay was stabbed approximately forty times. Jason
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and Cohen were taken to the Sanisch police station for
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questioning and the house was sealed off. No murder weapon
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could be found, but based on bloody footprints and the
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back door being left open, the killers clearly fled that
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way instead of the front door. It's possible that they
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saw Jason pull up and that's why the front door
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was locked and they went out the back right after
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he arrived. There was no name to even start off
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for this mystery. Vancouver caller Lindsay never mentioned it to
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anybody in the office or even Jason. The planner on
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her desk didn't even provide any new clues because all
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it said was one million dollar home needs to buy
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in three days, move in ready, three bed, three bath,
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large master bedroom, housekeeper, separate area for housekeeper, fifteen to
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twenty minutes five thirty. Looking into the phone number itself,
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it came from a prepaid phone that was only used
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to contact Lindsay. It was purchased at a Vancouver convenience
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store in November of two thousand and seven and then
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activated in January of two thousand and eight. The phone
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was registered under what police believed to have been a
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fake name, Paulo Rodriguez, and the phone was never used
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again after Lindsay's murder, which is true. Haunting this accent
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that the woman spoken was a point of intense speculation
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and scrutiny in the case, as it's called into question
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whether or not it was even real or part of
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a weird way to disguise themselves. Two witnesses came forward
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having seen the suspect couple walk into the call de
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sac at approximately five thirty pm. There were only four
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houses in the small cul de sac, and the witness
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saw Lindsay greeting the couple by the back of her
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car in the driveway when they first arrived. The couple
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was described as such thirty five to forty year old woman,
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white with short blonde hair and a bizarrely memorable dress
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with white, black and pink patterns. The dress was so
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unique that it was thought to be one of a
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kind and a separate composite was created for it and
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hopes that the designer may be able to help with
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the identity. The man was described as about six feet
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tall with possibly brown hair. He was wearing a classy
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brown jacket that fell below the waist, and he was
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also white. During their investigation, Sanwich police noted that Lindsay's
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online activity was unlike herself and that there seemed to
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be none According to police, documents. Between January twenty fourth
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and February third, there
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or messages between friends of Lindsay's. Investigators also noted missing
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chat logs on her computer and it was unclear when
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or how they were deleted, but given that Lindsay's murder
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remains unsolved, they really needed to look at all angles,
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but it was something noted as strange from early on.
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Sanwich Police, with support from the RCMP, concluded that the
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murder was clearly premeditated, but who could have wanted to
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kill her? All leads brought in by the composites were investigated,
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but Sanich police slowed to a standstill. In years would
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go by, with Lindsay's family never slowing their personal investigation.
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In twenty twenty one, a special task force was formed,
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bringing in the RCMP and the FBI with the help
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of DNA, genealogical and technical leads. They stated that advancements
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in DNA analysis could unlock new leads and the case
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remains open and active. Lindsay's father, Jeff Booziak, has been
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tireless in keeping her case alive. Every year, on February second,
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he leads a walk for justice from Sanwich Municipal Hall
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to the BC Legislature right outside of the police station,
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demanding accountability for his daughter's murder and pleading with the
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public at the same time for any answers. Over the years,
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Jeff has publicly criticized Sanwich Police's handling of the case,
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at times calling for an independent investigative body to take over.
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In twenty twenty, an online petition circulated calling for Sinich
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Police to be removed from the case, alleging cited conflicts,
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slow progress, and the family's frustration. Jeff has also been
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on any talk show that would allow him, including Doctor
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Phil and I'm going to play that here for you.
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For what he believes happened. In twenty nineteen, Jeff Booziak
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alleges that a letter was written to him from his
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daughter admitting that she had seen something that she potentially
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should not have seen and that she was silenced as
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a result. And that is what he is referring to
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in this interview.
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Boyfriend knows what went on with Lindsay's murder. Police rule
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him suspect of father's intuition, tells me otherwise. Every year
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I hold a public walk for justice in honor of Lindsay.
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The walk ends at the police station, because I feel
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that's where the responsibility lies to solve Lindsay's murder. I
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think the police are not handling this investigation properly at all.
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I believe they're incompetent and they're not doing their job.
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I'm very public about my dissatisfaction with police. I don't
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know anywhere in the world where an organization takes eleven
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years to accomplish a task. Their task is to solve
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a murder, and eleven years is not acceptable. I don't
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believe the police are capable of solving this case, and
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I think they're hiding something someone or covering up the
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murder itself. The police asked me to shut down the
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Lindsay Booziak murder website. The officers mentioned to me that
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there are things on the website that could jeopardize the
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integrity of the case. I asked him, I didn't even
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know you had a case.
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Do you have one? And they won't even answer that question. Well.
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To be very clear, Lindsey Buziak's boyfriend is not considered
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a suspect, and it has been reported by police that
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he has passed a polygraph and found to have been
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very cooperative. Listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I think
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in order for a conspiracy, particularly one to hold together
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for eleven years, a lot of people have to be involved,
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a lot of people have to hold together and not
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crack or make a mistake in some way. And that's
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just I've just been in this for a long long time,
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and that's highly, highly unlikely. And my experience with law
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enforcement is that they try and do a really good job,
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that they work really hard at what they do. They
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put themselves in harm's way to keep the rest of
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us safe every day. I mean, there aren't bad apples
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in every barrel, but my experience has been that they're
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generally highly devoted, sincere, hardworking men and women. That's been
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my experience with law enforcement, and I work with them
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a lot. You've put some very critical things up on
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the internet against the Santich Police Department. On social media,
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you said the police know who and why and are
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afraid to say they screwed this up. They botched their
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investigation from day one, cannot recover safe face and protect
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their friends. Police seem to think it is okay to
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have killers walking free amongst people and then in interviews
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with the media, you've questioned their professionalism and competency. You've
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accused them of knowing who the killer is.
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Doctor Phil I can give you a recent example. I
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was out there in December. I had somebody willing to
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talk to me about information regarding my daughter's murder. I
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convinced that person to speak to the police, which I
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always do. That person was not contacted when I returned
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to Victoria in February. When I questioned the police, they said, oh, yeah,
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we'll put that on our to do list.
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Pull up a chair, tell me what the hell you know? Well,
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that seems I do that.
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I offer to fly anywhere people are that tell me
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they have information, and I'm prepared to do that with
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that person. But I tell them I can't make the arrest,
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So you need to tell the police that.
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You didn't want to know what they knew.
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I go public with everything I know, Well, you go
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public with a lot more than that.
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You've gone public with names of who you think is involved. Absolutely,
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you've lost your job, You've lost really everything, right house cars,
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I mean, you've given up everything in pursuit of this
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because this is your number one priority, and nothing gets
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in the way of it. Correct. That's correct, doctor
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I pursue this daily, and I always say when people
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ask me, you know, what does that mean to you?
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I say, all in, I'm all in.
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What do you think happened? Why do you think she
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was killed?
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And she saw something she shouldn't have seen. She was
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jeopardizing people's lifestyles.
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They executed her. You say, she told you, you don't
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know what it was. No, I don't, doctor Phil.
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She said, I can't tell you right now, Daddy, but
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I will. And I know the reason she said that
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because she was in the situation and she knew that
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if she told me, I would tell her to remove
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herself immediately, and she wasn't ready for that.
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You've related this to the authorities. They've investigated this. They
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don't have any suspects regarding what you're saying.
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They don't believe anything is true, and they don't have
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any suspects. I don't know what they do.
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We did get a statement from them, and I'm going
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to read it in part. I'm going to put the
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whole thing up on doctor phil dot com. But here
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in part is their statement. At no time has the
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investigation been declared a cold case and an investigative team
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is presently assigned. We are aware of criticism from some
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family members. The details of our investigation must remain confidential.
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While the police will always try to communicate and update families,
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the necessity of maintaining confidentiality to ensure a successful prosecution
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remains our priority. The Sanwich Police remained committed to working
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in partnership with the RCMP. We will continue to work
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for justice for Lindsey.
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That's not a truthful statement. They declared it a cold case.
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They called me into their office on year two and said, Jeff,
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this is.
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A cold case.
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Now we've done our investigation. So I said, okay, turn
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over the file to me, which I'm entitled to and
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information from the file. So they said, well, why don't
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you go have lunch and we'll call you after lunch.
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I did.
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They phoned me while I was at lunch and said, Jeff,
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we had a meeting. We've decided now it's active, so
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you don't have access to any of the case. So
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they will not keep it a cold case because they
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know I'll get information and so is the media entitled
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the information, so they just keep it cold case. The
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other thing not truthful. There is the officers assigned are yes,
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assigned to the case as their pr terms, but they
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work general detective work.
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That's not acceptable for me. Well, I understand, and I
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understand your frustration here, But somebody did this heinous crime.
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And people that do this kind of thing they talk,
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They tell somebody somebody has heard something about this somewhere.
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And you may not recognize how consequential. Some little piece
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of the puzzle you might know, but when it's snapped
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together with another piece of the puzzle, it can make
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a difference.
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No arrests have ever been made for the murder of
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Lindsay Booziak, but let's talk about some theories here. People
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believe that Jason and his family are potentially involved. The
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brutality of the murder suggests that it was somebody very personal,
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but Jason cooperated with police, provided data, handed over everything
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they asked for without question, and has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.
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He genuinely seemed traumatized by Lindsay's murder. He was not
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only there when Lindsay was murdered, but he also offered
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to do the showing for her. So what could have
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happened if he had potentially stepped in. Would his girlfriend
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still be alive today and what about his family? Later
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in two thousand and eight, a close friend of Lindsay's
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named Nicki claimed that she was awokened in the middle
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of the night by time telephone call from an unknown number.
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She didn't remember much of what the caller had said,
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but noticed that the caller had a strange accent that
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she couldn't place. It was similar to the accent that
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Lindsey had described the Vancouver caller. After the phone call,
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Nicki called the originating phone number twenty to thirty times
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until the call was finally answered by Shirley Zelo, Jason's mother.
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Nicki asked her why she had called her and how
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she got her number, as the two didn't know each other.
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Shirley replied that she had intended to call her secretary,
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who was also named Nicki, and said that she didn't
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know why the other Nicki's number was in her contact list.
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She said that Jason must have added it by accident.
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Shirley also denies that this event ever took place, and
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it has not been publicly revealed whether or not Nicki's
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claim was ever investedd by police. Another theory is that
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the murder was contracted, perhaps disguised with another criminal activity,
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such as drug trade or organized crime. The use of
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burner phones, alias names, and planning suggests coordination and that
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more than one person was involved, possibly more than the
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two people that we know were involved were involved. Lindsay
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did have connections to people involved in drug trafficking within
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her Facebook network. Investigators flagged names of people tied to
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violent crime or illicit drug activity as being possible suspects
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or having wanted her dead, but despite hours of questioning,
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it led nowhere. Her own father admits that it was
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possible that she learned something that she shouldn't have or
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saw something she shouldn't have, and was silenced as a result.
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Because Lindsay's online activity was so abnormal in the days
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leading up to her murder, i e. Missing messages, Facebook silence,
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some people speculate that somebody manipulated or threatened her through
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digital means and possibly cursed her into meeting and then
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erase that evidence afterwards. But the challenge is none of
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this is confirmed in public record, and many documents remain redacted,
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leaving more questions than answers. Something in Lindsay's soul was
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telling her not to go that day, to not do
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this particular showing she seemed to know inquisitely that something
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bad was going to happen to her deep down, and
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no one deserves to die in this way. This case
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is truly heartbreaking, not just for its brutality, but for
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the lingering uncertainty that it leaves in the lives of
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Lindsay's family and the Victoria community. The investigations stiver mean
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open and active, and any information that you have might
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be the missing piece to identify whoever did this to
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Lindsey Booziak. Sanach Police urge you to call two five
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zero four seven five four three two one or the
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Greater Victoria Crime Stoppers at one eight hundred two two
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two eight four seven seven with any information. Thank you
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