Josh Izewski: Back-to-Back, Broad Street Run Champion. Fastest 10-Miler as an American. How He Broke the Broad Street Course Record. bölümünün tam dökümü

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WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.160 Today, I have the honor to speak with back-to-back Broad Street Run champion Josh Azutsky. 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:13.919 Josh not only won the 10-mile race, but he did so in an impressive 45 minutes and eight seconds. 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.839 That is roughly a four-minute and 30-second mile pace. 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:26.320 This unbelievable performance not only set a course record, but it marked the fastest 10-mileer ever by an American. 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:30.640 Josh joins me to discuss this amazing accomplishment. 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:47.439 He explains what he believes makes the Broad Street run unique, how he approached it, how he managed to run the course 65 seconds faster than his winning time last year, and what it meant to him to set a course record at the largest 10-mile race in the country. 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:52.000 Roughly 40,000 runners raced down Broad Street. 00:00:52.079 --> 00:01:00.960 And Josh tells me what it was like leading the pack with the huge crowds who came out to cheer and bring the energy that only Philly can provide. 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:13.920 Josh unpacks what he did differently that allowed him to be aggressive on race day, how he stays consistent and dialed in with his training, and how his mentality and belief helped him run at his best. 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:24.640 Josh recently signed as a professional runner with A6, and he is set to move closer to his family in the New Jersey, Pennsylvania area with his fiancee and dogs. 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:29.760 I'm Jake Penasevich, and this is the Yoga with Jake Podcast. 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.480 Man, busy uh busy week for you, huh? 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:49.920 This how you feeling? 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:50.560 Good. 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:51.040 Yeah. 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:55.920 We um I was up in up in Pennsylvania and I drove back down to North Carolina yesterday. 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:01.120 So uh yeah, yesterday I was pretty much driving all day, and then I saw your messages come through and I was gonna respond. 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.079 I was like, well, I probably shouldn't do it while I'm driving, and then yeah. 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:05.599 Uh worked out, man. 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.800 I'm I'm so happy that uh that you reached out to do this. 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.000 I just I sometimes don't want to bug you. 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:14.319 Uh you're good. 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:14.800 You're good. 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:21.680 You're better off bugging me because sometimes I'll see something and be like, I'll respond to that like an hour, and then I'll be like, oh yeah, that was like five weeks ago. 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:23.360 Just now I just feel like an idiot. 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.199 So you're better off just bothering me. 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:28.319 Yeah, man. 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.280 I um I don't I don't know what to say. 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.439 I feel so uh pumped for you. 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:46.960 Congratulations, man, and uh broad street run, another win and a uh course record and fastest 10 mile in uh fastest American to run a 10 mile. 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:47.680 Is that correct? 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:49.520 Yeah, uh well thank you. 00:02:49.680 --> 00:03:01.919 Um, but yeah, so it's uh the course is a point-to-point course, and like the uh 50% rule or whatnot with uh world athletics doesn't allow it to be uh a record eligible. 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:09.360 So um, but it's the fastest time, it's an it's an American best, it's the fastest time all conditions run by an American. 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:11.919 So um, you know, it was a pretty it was a good run. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:13.039 I'm pretty proud of it. 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:18.240 So um it's got had a you know got a cramp in the middle there for hot seconds. 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:22.000 So you know, there was a little bit of uh I kind of saw I'm the only one that knows that. 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:26.639 So I was like, man, that was I left a few seconds out there on the table, but uh it was it was still a good thing. 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.879 Yeah, my goodness, man. 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:32.159 I um it's so impressive for folks. 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.960 Just could you refresh people on your finished time? 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:44.240 And um, yeah, what it was one or sorry, 45 minutes, eight seconds, point three three. 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:45.039 Is that right? 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.599 Yeah, I think I think that's the down to the a hundredth of a second there. 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.280 But yeah, it was it was 4508. 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:52.560 They like to round up. 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.080 Okay, okay. 00:03:54.319 --> 00:04:01.520 And for folks trying to do math in their head, that is about a four minute 50 some second mile pace. 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:02.000 Is that right? 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:08.479 Uh it's it's four, it's four thirty point eight, I think, seconds per mile. 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:25.920 So um I was on 430, right under 430 for most of the way, and then uh eight miles, I got a really nasty side stitch, and I was like, uh I'm I was right in front of the camera there when they were on the motorcycle, and I was like, I know they're talking about this on TV right now because I'm like trying to rub out my stomach and have my arm up. 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:38.720 So uh lost a few seconds there, but it was 430 pace, and uh, you know, I kind of knew the whole way, like as long as I was like 30 seconds at the odd miles and double zero at the even miles, I'd be on pace to be right around 45 minutes. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.199 So uh it was easy math during the race. 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:42.639 Okay, okay. 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:48.560 Are you uh during the race uh cognizant of your pace? 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just dead focused? 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:58.480 I was I was mostly just checking uh when I got to each mile mark or what it was. 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:07.120 I I looked uh with about a quarter mile to go, I looked because I said there was a banner that said a quarter mile to go, and I looked to see how far or close I was to like 45 flat. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:14.319 And I regardless if it was a little off or on, I was like, I got like 75 seconds to make this last quarter mile, so I'm I'm good. 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:20.240 So I think that's the only time I the only time I uh actually like check my watch. 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:25.600 I split my watch every mile just so I could see what each mile was at post-race, but I didn't look when I split. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:26.879 So I the clock was there. 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:28.720 That's the official time anyway. 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:29.680 Okay. 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:31.040 Awesome. 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.600 Well, could you walk me through, Josh, your uh your race with Broad Street? 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:42.000 Are you with the rest of us on the the subway and early in the morning uh trekking up? 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:46.240 Or how does it work when you're in that first uh group to send off? 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:53.519 Yeah, I mean, I I wasn't on the subway just because I was coming from my parents' place, which is just uh you know north uh in Doylestown. 00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:01.839 So, but they they dropped me off like you know a few blocks up over by the um uh whichever septa stop that is just north of the starting line. 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:08.639 Um, so you know, I got out there and I just walked down to the you know tent area where like the elites were all sitting and everything. 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.439 And um, but yeah, it was basically the same sort of setup. 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:13.439 There was nothing like much different. 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:19.600 I mean, I two years ago or 23 when I ran the race, I stayed at my brother's place and he lived right over by uh Divine Lorraine. 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:26.160 And uh I took the step up the morning uh like stepped up and uh just got out and just raced and was good, what just went. 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.360 So pretty pretty pretty similar-ish morning. 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:29.920 Yeah. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:30.720 Awesome. 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:37.759 That's then so at the start of the race, did you feel as if you were ready to roll? 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.600 Could you um kind of walk me through the progression of the race? 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:47.360 You know, in the beginning, there, how many are in your pool of elite runners to start? 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.639 And it seems, well, obviously you start together. 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:55.839 And so what was your your feeling, your sense as you got out of the starting gate? 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:57.120 How'd you feel? 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:03.519 Um, yeah, I mean, I guess to take it back a little bit further, um, I ran the LA Marathon in early March. 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.480 So um Broad Street was eight weeks afterwards. 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:15.519 Um, so I basically, you know, had like two weeks or so of recovery post-race, and then it was like six weeks training into this race. 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:23.439 Um, and you know, marathon still takes some time to recover from too, but uh, you know, I ran a half marathon in Jersey City two weeks before, and I actually used it as a workout. 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:31.199 I was doing alternating miles within the race, and I PR'd by over a minute for the half, and I crossed the line. 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:36.079 I was like, that's the easiest, you know, 62-minute half marathon I've ever run. 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.680 It's the only one I've run, but it was very much easier than all my previous half. 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:44.639 So um, from that point, I knew you know I was feeling good going into the race. 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:55.759 You know, I I, you know, I ran was able to run with my brother a lot up there, and I was telling him like right after Jersey City that uh I felt like I was probably in 45-30 shape, but you know, you never know until you get out there in the day. 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:03.920 Um, but uh, you know, training was, you know, nothing I did in training was, you know, you wouldn't look at it and go, wow, like you're ready to hit a home run here. 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.439 It was just like consistent uh putting in the day. 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:11.040 If my body was tired one day, I still just gave the effort that was needed on the day. 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.000 Um, and it was, you know, it came together on race day. 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:21.199 So um I did an 800 like tempo piece uh 20 minutes before the race and I ran like 206 or 207. 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.759 So uh on my watch split. 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:29.519 Um, but uh I knew when I ran that and it felt comfortable, I was like, okay, today's gonna be, you know, pretty good. 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:35.600 But uh actually when I got to the mile, we're at the mile at 432, and I knew that 430 is about what I wanted to hold, and I was a little bit worried there. 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.399 I was like, uh oh, maybe I don't feel as good as I thought. 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:41.919 Um but I picked it up and I was like 1759, then at four miles. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.480 So I was already under 430 pace and made up the difference. 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:52.720 So uh every mile that went by, I kind of just gained confidence that you know I was closer to the finish line and uh you know it at ate my at some points. 00:08:52.799 --> 00:09:02.559 You know, there's good patches, bad patches in the race, and um some of the uh rougher patches, I was like, you know, it's okay if you, you know, it's okay if this mile is like 434 or 435. 00:09:02.639 -->

00:09:06.799 You can make it up in the next mile, but that not mile actually never that never really happened. 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:13.440 So uh, you know, it I was lucky that the whole race kind of went pretty seamlessly, other than just one cramp at eight miles. 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.039 So wow, that's uh it's incredible. 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:22.399 Do you uh was there anything you said you pretty much stayed the course with your training? 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:25.200 Um, but what was different? 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:31.200 Obviously, you know, this I imagine I imagine this is your personal best 10 mile, right? 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:32.080 Yeah, yeah. 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:37.919 Yeah, and um you know, better than you did last year with Broad Street, even. 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:42.960 And um was it did you notice anything different in this training cycle? 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:47.600 Like were you sounded like you felt really good coming into that uh Jersey City half? 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.360 You said you felt really strong. 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.399 Um was it what do you what do you credit that to? 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:53.840 Is there anything that was different? 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.200 Was it you know uh anything more on point? 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:01.440 Did you just stay healthier with injuries and pain or anything going on there? 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:23.279 Yeah, I mean, so I used to um for the last eight years I ran for Zap Endurance um in Blowing Rock uh in Boom, North Carolina, and um after you know 20 some years of you know their existence, they um are basically forced to shut their doors because of just like money issues, just no corporate sponsor wanted to help to sponsor the team. 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:29.440 Um, so I ended up moving down to Durham, and um I think it was just a good change. 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:33.440 My fiance was down here um in meds or in residency. 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:39.360 Um so I think just you know, the simple fact that I was like pretty much stationed in one spot then. 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:51.759 Um I started, you know, or just you know, just simple things like I noticed, like, you know, I don't dwell on or I don't go off of too much data and stuff, but like I noticed I was like, oh yeah, I'm kind of I'm sleeping about an hour more at night and stuff. 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:57.440 So just like small things here and there like that that maybe were uh contributed. 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:19.679 But um I think the biggest thing was just I finally got a good stretch of like you know, 15, 16 weeks since uh I uh was just healthy and able to run and uh really take advantage and not you know, just the consistency in training I think is just what kind of was able allowed me to be able to see what I was actually I knew was always there, but was never able to show. 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:29.840 So um I think it was just you know a few little things like that that just like changed and uh it was finally, you know, came together last weekend. 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.159 So hopefully, you know, going forward now I'm gonna run Gold Coast Marathon in July. 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:39.679 So hopefully that can just keep nothing really much needs to change other than just keep doing what I'm doing. 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:41.039 So yeah. 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:41.919 Wonderful. 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:57.039 And do you think, you know, I I talked to a lot of folks, um doctors and uh psychiatrists, and uh when it comes to pain, like chronic pain, there's a lot of talk about the biopsychosocial uh component of health. 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:11.039 And you know, with the change, all these changes with Zap uh going under and maybe some unknown there, and then did but it sounds like your mental health maybe contributed in a good way. 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.720 It sounded like you were in a good place. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:17.840 Like, did he do anything to keep you keep you uh steady mentally? 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:27.519 Um yeah, I mean there, I mean, I'm not I mean it was it was stressful for you know a few months there, um, where it was just like I'm basically unemployed. 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:39.600 Uh so um, but I think you know, this being a professional runner or athlete, you know, you're kind of just having an inherent like uh confidence in yourself. 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:49.200 So uh I think I just trusted what I was doing, and that you know, when the races came along, you know, stuff would start to fall in place. 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.799 And I ran the LA Marathon, you know, it was a really hot day. 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.120 Um, I ran a pretty tough race. 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:56.639 I got I ended up fourth. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:13.440 Um, but uh, you know, I was lucky enough that after that that um, you know, I've been chatting with ASICs and uh, you know, we were able to get a deal going and that kind of took a lot of uh the stress out of my life of like having to worry about that like kind of financial side of everything where I could just like now just train. 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:22.720 Um so but yeah, I would say my the you know mentally, yes, there was always there's always the stress of it, but I you know I kind of just always had that belief in myself. 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:27.919 So um it made it you know looking back now easy. 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:34.879 But that's when I lumped together all those four or five months, not every day, every day or every night when you're just like, oh man, I gotta figure this out. 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:36.399 So sure. 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:36.879 Yeah. 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:37.440 Yes. 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:45.039 So you're now with A6, and um how did that come about and and how do you feel about that? 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:46.399 I mean, I feel great. 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.120 I mean, they I've always, you know, loved their shoes. 00:13:49.279

--> 00:13:54.000 I've loved, I've liked, I liked the way the race kits look the best for so many years. 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:56.720 So um it's it's you know, it's a dream come true. 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:11.759 Um, you know, I have an agent and uh he kind of worked uh doesn't get any credit um for it, but he works behind the scenes and he's pretty much the one that got this all done and uh just made just said to me, just just run fast and you know, good things will happen. 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.080 So uh, you know, he steered me in the right direction as far as racing goes and everything. 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.159 And uh my coach that was with at Zap, he's still working with me. 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:28.399 And you know, we were all on the same page, and you know, it allowed me to just kind of just do what I do, and um, everything fell into place. 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:34.399 So, but yeah, I'm beyond excited to be with ASICs, and you know, Broad Street was my first like official real race with them. 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:41.360 Uh, so I'm you know happy to you know have the American Best 10 Mile and uh the ASICs family. 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:42.320 So yeah. 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:43.120 Excellent. 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.960 What uh what shoe do you choose to race in um with ASICs? 00:14:49.279 --> 00:15:04.879 Um so I've uh I wore the cloud uh not cloud, I wore the MetaSpeed Ray uh at uh Broad Street, and then at the uh LA Marathon, I wore the edges, and then I train in the skies. 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:16.159 Um my my cadence kind of is more of like you as I I pick I increase my speed through a higher cadence rather than like the sky where it's like for runners that have longer strides. 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:28.240 So um those shoes work best for me, but I wore the rays, and I think those uh those might be uh the shoes I go with for the marathon, but I'll experiment a little bit with that uh going forward. 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:29.519 Awesome. 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.320 I uh have a special place in my heart for ASICs. 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.559 I wrestled my whole life for years as a kid. 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.840 Oh ASICs was the only shoe that made wrestling shoes. 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:40.879 It's really funny. 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.279 So it's uh they're like the old school uh wrestling shoe. 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:52.159 The A6 were the first uh pair of spikes I ever got uh when I ran cross country, you know, 20 some years ago. 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.559 So uh it's kind of like full circle now. 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.720 Yeah, man, that's so great, so great. 00:15:56.799 --> 00:15:57.279 Congrats. 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:58.960 Uh that's amazing. 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:07.519 And um I was curious what uh what in your opinion makes Broad Street sp particularly special? 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:14.559 Um, you know, broad, I mean, for Broad Street it's the largest 10 mile in the country, it's the biggest race in Philly. 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:19.759 Um, for me, it's always been a bucketless race to go um and win when I got that last year. 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.519 You know, I kind of set my sights a little higher this year, um, and I was able to uh achieve both of them. 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.639 So going forward, we'll have to set some more goals. 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.960 Uh, but uh, you know, it's it's not like any other race in the country. 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:42.639 Like, you know, typically if you're at a big marathon or um any like race that has like a you know a pro or elite field, they kind of keep you all separate. 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:52.480 Like, you know, you they bring you to the starting line, you're right at the starting line, you're in a tent, you're you know, you're kept away from the masses, and you finish, and same thing. 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.399 You're brought into a tent, you're kept away from the masses, you don't see anybody versus Broad Street. 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:57.360 You know, it's like the same thing. 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:02.639 It's like I woke up in the morning, I drove down with my parents, they dropped me off, I walked to the starting line. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.720 Everyone that's racing there, you know, you can warm up with anybody, you know. 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:18.240 Basically, I mean, they have the elites start a little bit earlier for the race, but as soon as you finish, everyone just you know pours into the Navy yard and you know, you can chat and talk to anybody post-race. 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:28.400 And then um the Bucks County Roadrunners always send down a uh bus to the for uh for the race, and I don't know, 50 some people probably race, and then they always have a tailgate afterwards. 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:37.119 So, you know, after the race, after the awards and everything, I get to go over to the uh, you know, the stadium lots and do a you know post uh post-race tailgate, which is always fun too. 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:43.200 And you get to hear how everyone else did rather than just like, all right, hop on the bus, we're going back to the hotel, and you don't get to see anybody. 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:51.200 So it's it's you know, running's a very um, it should be a very inclusive sport, you know, everyone should everyone can do it, so it's relatable. 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:55.839 So you it that's what makes Broad Street unique is that you're able to do that there. 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.799 And it's such a high profile and such a big race. 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:03.680 Plus, it's lined with people the whole way and everyone's cheering for you and just boost your adrenaline. 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.759 So yeah, man. 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.160 It's city's buzzing that day. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:09.920 I uh like a holiday. 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:11.920 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:16.079 40,000 runners, I think they said it's crazy.

00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:20.799 Um, you were done well before most people uh jumped off, I think. 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:25.119 Yeah, I mean they do the waves like you know, uh timed off. 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:33.200 So uh I mean I get a little bit of a head start being in the first wave, but uh you know, when you have 40,000 people like that, the it's you you just gotta wait your turn. 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:34.799 Luckily, we got chip timing. 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:46.400 I uh I was just curious when you're going and you're locked in, do you even pay attention or notice? 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:51.519 Like, I think there's been some broad streets where I know I my goal was just to finish. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:55.759 I didn't have I had some injuries, and so I just wanted to enjoy the run in the city. 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:09.279 So, you know, you take in like the temple marching band in the north in North Philly and around City Hall, it gets pretty packed with fans, and it's it's kind of like heartwarming to see the city get together for something positive. 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:16.640 But when you're that dialed in, I mean, do you even are you even noticing any of this? 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.440 So do you pretty much tunnel vision? 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.599 No, I mean, I I mean, I say I would say when I ran the race, I pretty much noticed. 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:28.000 I mean, it might not have looked like I noticed, but I did notice like no, I remember going past the band. 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:29.759 I think I gave them a thumbs up. 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:39.519 Um, if I saw anyone I knew, um, I would, you know, point at them or give them a thumbs up, just like acknowledge that I saw them and make sure that they, you know, like thank them for what for being out there. 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:52.079 And then even other people that were out there too, you know, little kids that are yelling and wave to them, it kind of takes your mind off of what you're doing a little bit because if you're locked in all the time, I feel like all you're gonna be thinking about is just like, man, this is this is kind of hard. 00:19:53.200 --> 00:20:03.359 You know, by distracting yourself in a way you can uh by you know, engaging with the fans and stuff and everyone that comes out to support you, because you know, they they do help you run faster. 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:11.759 So um it's kind of a way to give back, but also like you I don't I can't focus for 45 minutes locked in like that, it's just too hard. 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.039 Yeah, so I gotta I gotta distract myself. 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:29.279 Do you uh now anyone who runs knows or that's pushed themselves knows there's uh a uh threshold of suck that you have to deal with if you're pushing yourself? 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:41.039 Yeah, how does how does Josh handle that um when you feel you're pushing up against maybe your boundary

of of what's possible for you and and it's starting to to get hard? 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:49.839 Do you have a mantra or what's going through your your mind and how do you how do you uh work through that or work with that, I guess? 00:20:50.160 --> 00:21:03.519 Yeah, I mean, I think every every race has a point you you know you try it try to get to because you know you know once you get to that point, you like you can kind of see the finish line, then it's like a mental game where it's like, okay, I can see the finish line. 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.559 Light at the end, there's light at the end of the tunnel, I can get there. 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:18.319 Um, so I think just knowing where that is, but inherently in every race, you're gonna have like waves of of emotion and just waves of like feeling good and feeling bad. 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:32.720 And I think just you know, riding the wave when you're feeling bad and knowing that you'll come out of it, even if it's just mental, um, you know, helps helps me to get through those, like a few of those patches here and there. 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:39.839 Um, you know, some races are obviously, you know, you're having a bad patch like almost every mile, and other races it's like one or two the whole race. 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:41.200 So it just depends on the race. 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:59.359 But I think just you know, being in control of your emotions out there and confident in what you're doing um allows you to or allows me at least to uh handle like that wave of like, okay, I'm not feeling great right now, but you know, let's get to that, you know, let's get to City Hall, it's you know, one block away and we'll reassess there. 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:03.680 So So um I think for me that's probably what I do. 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:11.279 Um but uh you know everyone's different in what they're how they handle that sort of stuff. 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.599 Um but for me that's probably the what I do. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:20.319 Do you uh have in the back of your mind, is it a uh confidence boost to just know you've put in the work? 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:27.920 Like the hay's been made, like you've you've put in your training, you'd know it's good training, and now just let it fly. 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.559 Like is do you does that give you some confidence? 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:50.720 Yeah, I think when you um when you execute each workout every day um and you're feeling good, um, and you know you've done it at the proper like uh uh the proper pace or the proper like training zone that you're supposed to be for the day, um, that gives me confidence going into the race. 00:22:50.880 --> 00:23:02.799 And then you know, Broad Street's a course that you know you can afford to be pretty aggressive and um you you know basically even split it the whole way just by the nature of the course. 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:17.200 Um so, but yeah, I mean, when uh I start hitting workouts that I'm starting to feel good and it's like weeks out, weeks out, and then even just like going to Jersey City and seeing that result, it's like, okay, I'm ready to, you know, I did that one, I did run Jersey City and it was in mid of 130 mile weeks. 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:22.160 So I'm like, okay, if I drop my mileage by 50 miles this week, I'm probably gonna feel a lot better. 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:28.400 So, you know, it kind of just like you know, self uh propels its it propels itself almost in a way. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:34.480 It's you know, you're feeling good, workout goes good, and you know, it's just like snowball keeps rolling down the hill, getting bigger and bigger. 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.000 So I love that. 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:41.279 When you say Broad Street specifically lends itself to being aggressive, what do you mean by that? 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.599 So, you know, I mean the first like three miles of the race are pretty fast. 00:23:45.759 --> 00:24:06.000 So, I mean, I kind of after the last two years of racing it, I've kind of come to the you know conclusion that you can uh if you if you have like an A plus goal, you could probably set it for that day and you can go out at you know, all the best runs usually in history have all been like negative split. 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:07.599 You know, we saw it in London recently. 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:13.519 They went out in like 60 flat and came back in like 59 flat or whatever it was that there was, but they still negative split. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:15.839 And Broad Street's a course like that where you can do that. 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:23.599 You can be aggressive up front, and because the first three miles are so fast, you can lock into that pace of being aggressive early. 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:36.880 Um, you'll might you might even split or negative split by slightly on the back half, but it's not because uh it's only because uh but you're uh because the course isn't quite as flat, it's because it's flat there, you know, it's not as fast. 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.799 So your effort will be harder. 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:50.720 But uh, you know, it's a I feel like it's a good, it's a race that you can run where you're you can be afforded to be aggressive in in the early stages and not really pay for it too badly on the back end, depending on uh how hard you go out. 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:52.559 Sure, sure. 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:59.599 Um do you when did you feel as if you had it you're pulling away from the field? 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:06.400 When did you think that um, or when did you start to notice yourself getting some distance away from your competitors? 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:16.720 Was it halfway were you past uh City Hall already, or or when did you start to feel yourself, or do you even pay attention to that when you're going? 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.839 Yeah, I mean it's a hard thing to tell when you're running. 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.119 I mean, you

can I don't really I didn't turn around and take a look. 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:29.359 You know, you can kind of just like listen to the clo crowds when they cheer, like when you go by, and then they get silent, wait for them to get loud again. 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.920 So if I'm not hearing them get loud again, means the gap has getting gotten bigger and bigger. 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:36.640 Um, but I wasn't too concerned. 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:48.240 Um, I mean, I don't want to say I wasn't too concerned about the competition, but uh I I had my race plan and I knew if I executed that, that I was gonna have a very good day. 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:50.720 I can't control what anyone else does. 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.240 Um, but I knew if I ran my race that I would have a good day. 00:25:54.480 --> 00:26:02.880 So um I think uh 430 pace was an aggressive pace that I don't know if anyone that wanted to run that pace. 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:14.480 So I feel like at three miles, to answer your question, I feel like at three miles is pretty much where I was like, okay, I've I put a good gap on everybody by like 10, 15 seconds already, and I'm not feeling like I'm gonna be slowing down. 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:19.200 So um it might grow um as long as I don't slow down, I shouldn't get caught. 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:23.200 But you know, I still run as if I'm there's somebody right behind me. 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:30.400 Sometimes I'll try and trick myself and listen to my own feet footprints or feet hitting the ground and think it's somebody else. 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:42.400 So I was gonna ask, yeah, I was gonna ask how you um maintain that focus and pace when uh sometimes you're maybe maybe you're ahead of the field or there's nobody around. 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.240 And so that's yeah, it's interesting. 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:49.759 Yeah, I mean, or the other time is I'll try and like catch the you know truck in front of me or the motorcycle. 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:58.480 Obviously, if they want to pull away, they can pull away, but I'll still pretend like, oh yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try and go catch the you know car in front of me that's the clock on it. 00:26:58.640 --> 00:26:59.920 So I love it. 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:07.920 Even if it helps for a minute or two through a rough patch or something, or a good patch, even just like playing a game with yourself when you're out there. 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:09.119 Nice. 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:16.319 I um usually there's I remember I interviewed Amber Zimmerman who had won it the previous two years. 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:22.160 Um, but there was this gentleman in a banana suit that nearly caught her. 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:22.880 Yeah. 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.079 And she's like, man, this banana is running pretty fast. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.440 Do you ever think you'll run a race in a banana suit? 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.440 I think maybe when I'm retired, I'll be running some races in banana suits or something like that. 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:42.720 I'll I'll I'll gladly stop at the uh you know stations where people are handing out beer and stuff then grab when grab a beer mid-race, but there you go. 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:46.319 For the foreseeable for a few next few years, probably not. 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:46.799 Yeah. 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:50.720 So but that's what that's the that's the my retirement tour, my retirement races. 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.599 Yeah. 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.240 Would go around winning turkey trots and such. 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:56.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:57.440 Awesome. 00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:57.759 Yeah. 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:02.319 Do you uh you know what else uh kept you on point? 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:09.279 It sounds like you're living right, like you're getting more a little more rest, it sounded like you're in a good space, mental heads headspace. 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.799 I was very curious with that with zap and a lot of things going on. 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:15.200 It sounds like you're very dialed in. 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.000 What else? 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.680 Uh yeah, what else is uh is uh helping you out here? 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:21.359 Is it diet? 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.799 Uh you doing anything extra as far as recovery. 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:28.000 Do you do uh I mean, I love yoga, but I'd like to think. 00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:30.240 I was like, maybe Josh is doing some yoga. 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.480 What is I mean, I am in a I am in a way. 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:38.480 I mean, I really uh after New York in 24, I really kicked up my strength training and everything. 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:46.319 And a lot of the stuff is like kind of like I mean, I don't know for sure because I don't do yoga, but it is seems like very yoga-ish movements and stuff. 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.319 Um, more of like getting stronger outside the plane of running and what so. 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.680 Um, so I think um that's definitely helped. 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:59.839 And it took, you know, a good year, year and a half for it to actually like come through in training. 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:05.599 Um, but uh so that that's probably been like one of the other biggest things that I didn't mention before. 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:13.200 I actually got an offer to finish up in Jersey um right around the same time that the ASICs thing came through for me. 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:19.279 So uh I was pretty, you know, it was pretty it was a pretty good month for us as far as like what the previous months had been. 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.279 So that kind of helped a lot too. 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:27.279 Um, I think just in training, being like in a less, you know, cortisol levels was lower. 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:27.839 Yeah. 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:29.599 To put it this simply. 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:31.039 Nice. 00:29:31.279

--> 00:29:33.920 So maybe some shifts in your strength training as well. 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:35.599 Yeah, yeah. 00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.079 Yeah, definitely, that that has definitely helped. 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:43.519 I mean, it became a priority where it's like, you know, morning run, afternoon run, strength work. 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:47.279 You know, that was kind of just like, you know, the boring, boring day. 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.200 Just run, run, strength work, and just kept repeating that. 00:29:51.279 --> 00:30:05.839 And, you know, took took some time for my body to, you know, I guess I guess I was stronger, but it took time for it to be able to handle it within the amount of running I was doing and trying to, you know, what I was trying to get out of my body. 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:14.880 So um, but I think that was probably, you know, one of the biggest things that's contributed to like at least the last few months of sustained health. 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:20.079 Now does does that look like um running specific weight training? 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:27.680 I'm picturing like coordination drills on one leg, those sort of stability like exercises, or what does that look like? 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:42.160 It's a lot, it's a lot of mobility type stuff that would be, you know, um, I think like yoga type movements, you know, some stuff like moving with smaller weights, just like in a position um that's outside of like the normal running motion. 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.720 Um so I'm stronger outside of that motion. 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:57.440 And um, so I think that's um definitely helped me, you know, maintain my strengths that way when I'm running, I'm not like you know, if I have like three or different types of strengths, you know, I'm not using just one. 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.079 I have I'm stronger everywhere. 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:31.200 So um but uh yeah, I mean a lot, I usually I have like three or four days that I roll through and like seven to eight uh exercises, and then you know, I do like you know 10 squats in the or 10 five sets of like 10 squats like with a band in the morning, do some like uh Copenhagen type stuff with like a band, you know, a lot of just like mobility type stuff to help me like uh wake up my body before runs as well, which I think has helped activate all the muscles and everything, especially like the smaller ones. 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:32.000 Okay. 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:37.839 And you think that is uh contributed to you staying healthy as well and uh pain free? 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.200 Okay, yeah, for sure. 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:54.240 I mean, I think you know it's just I think I've just had to uh change how I train um as I've gotten older now, and just you know, it's not a it's nothing wrong with it, it's just understanding what works now versus what worked before. 00:31:54.319 --> 00:32:00.480 You know, I'm not 21 and can roll out of bed after you know four hours of sleep and be doing hard work, I'd be totally fine. 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.960 If I did that now, I'd be like, yeah, I got something tweaked. 00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.680 But but it doesn't mean but I'm running faster than I ever was before too. 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.240 So uh what what I'm doing is working well. 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:11.759 So awesome. 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.759 And I think did I see that you also see a uh chiropractor? 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:25.279 Yeah, I see I see um a chiropractor um up by my like up in Doyle's town at the uh advanced uh spine and sports. 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:32.640 And um, you know, I've known him since I was I mean, he used to kick my butt back when I was like nine in races and stuff. 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:35.680 Uh but I started working with him when I was like a freshman in high school. 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.000 So I've known him for many, many years. 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:43.680 So, you know, he pretty much knows where a lot of my issues might arise and everything like that. 00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:49.759 But he's he's I mean he's a chiropractor, but he's more than a chiropractor as far as like soft tissue work and everything that he does. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.680 So uh he's he's he's he's pretty good at what he does. 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:55.039 But I'm bothered. 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:56.640 Nice. 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.799 Um sounds like you're good at being very consistent. 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:12.240 I feel like it doesn't sound like you rely on chance much, it's more stay the course, keep put in the hours of training and and stay steady, it sounds like. 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:30.960 Yeah, I mean, I think uh, you know, if you if you fall in love with the um like little things and the just everything that happens behind closed doors or in the dark, and you just lay one brick every day, it uh leads to you know success. 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:38.400 So um sometimes sometimes it doesn't, because that's also the nature of running uh in the sport that we do. 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:48.720 But um, you know, if you if you stay consistent, you know, consistency, you know, they always say is key, and that's you know what I've been trying to get for a very long time. 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.480 And uh I think I finally have gotten it. 00:33:52.640 --> 00:34:07.920 Um so um, you know, another months, few months and years of this should uh I should be able to hopefully see what my uh potential is and limit, and uh you know we'll we'll go from there. 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:09.039 Awesome. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.119 And and how old are you now, Josh? 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:14.320 Uh I turned 36 the uh week before Broad Street. 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:15.360 So Oh shoot. 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.639 Yeah, happy birthday. 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:18.000 Thank you, thank you. 00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:27.039 So is that normal for runners to be P PRing and PBing 10 milers at 36?

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:33.760 Or is what's the uh that's that's seems like you're only up, only going to be a little bit more. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:47.599 Yeah, I think uh I think um with uh you know training methods now, the shoe technology and stuff, it's allowing runners to run a lot longer and till until an older age. 00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.719 Um I took uh a few years off after college and did triathlon for a while. 00:34:52.880 --> 00:35:01.920 So my coach always talked about like he's like, you have your physical age, but then you got your running age too, because you haven't beat yourself up for a number of years when other people were. 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:14.079 So um I remember, you know, three or four years ago talking to him, and he was like, you know, your best running days are still gonna be like, you know, when you're 37, 38, probably maybe 39 years old. 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:22.800 Um, and uh I think now as I'm getting closer to that, I'm you know, not that I didn't believe him before, but it's like, oh, it's you, yeah, you were right. 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:23.440 Yeah. 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:24.639 So awesome. 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.159 Uh so I I and I PR'd in two distances this year. 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:33.039 So as long as I'm running and PR and I'm not uh I'm not gonna stop. 00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:35.360 Yeah, that's so great. 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:45.360 Um what's so you're moving right, you said sh soon back close to where you grew up, but close to Philly, it sounds like. 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:51.199 Yeah, so we're we'll be in Jersey um for um her residency. 00:35:51.360 --> 00:36:18.000 Um, but uh we're living in, we're in Durham now, so we'll basically be here for a month to just finish out our um lease and then by you know June-ish, first, second, whenever, uh, we'll be moving up there and uh I'll be able to finish my, which I'm actually pretty excited about because I'll be able to finish my last month of training up there and be closer to you know a lot of you know my family and you know the chirop my chiropractor that I see all the time and PT and everything. 00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:25.760 So I think it's uh I think it'll be a good it'll be a good change after being down here for nine years now. 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:32.400 So uh from I'm from the area, so it's you know I get to go home and you know, no one I can't go, I can't watch any of the sports stuff down here. 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:33.760 They got the blackout stuff. 00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:44.239 So uh I tried to put on the Phillies game last night, and I last night's game I guess was okay to miss, but yeah, I tried to put it on last night, but I couldn't get it on because it was a blackout, so for the area. 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.199 So I'm excited for for that stuff too. 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:48.400 Nice, yeah. 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.480 It's uh it's interesting. 00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:56.320 I feel like baseball's gotten harder to find games on regular uh TV. 00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.079 You have to sign up for that MLB package, unfortunately. 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.360 That's what I had to do last night, and I was like, well, I'm not gonna sign up. 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:08.000 I mean, I'm moving up there too, so I mean, I should have they should have those games on up there. 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:09.360 Totally, totally. 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.119 Are you excited about the sports going on right now in Philly? 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.239 We got the Sixers going tonight, Flyers, you know. 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:34.400 Yeah, I mean back's against the walls a bit, but I mean, the last there was like they had that one, they had one or Saturday night when the Phillies won or Phillies lost, uh the but the Sixers won, and then the Phillies now have been on a really good streak um after that pretty a nine-game losing streak. 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:42.239 So uh it's been a little bit of a roller coaster with them, but you know, I'm pretty confident that Phillies will get it figured out since it's earlier in the season. 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.639 Um, and I'm hoping you know, the Flyers are down here playing the hurricane, so I can go over to a game. 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:50.159 Uh I think we're on game three now, I think it is. 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:55.679 Yeah, I think uh, well, gosh, I think we're on game four coming up. 00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:57.679 I think it's tomorrow already. 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.360 Yeah, so yeah, they gotta get they gotta wake up soon here. 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.199 That's a tough team though. 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:12.079 Yeah, I mean that you wouldn't think that a team in North Carolina would be, you know, that good, but you know, they've been pretty good for the last like four or five years. 00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:20.880 So um, yeah, they they gotta wake up a little bit, but you know, you know, they they they they I'm not gonna micromanage what they do and be an armchair quarterback. 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:21.360 Yeah. 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:31.840 Yeah, I've noticed some of um folks who do that aren't as uh competitive in their athletics or didn't play a sport competitively. 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:32.800 Yeah, you didn't know. 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.360 It's a little bit different when you're doing it than when you're sitting there like saying what should be done. 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:43.360 It's like, yeah, well, you know, it's a little bit it's a little it's a little bit harder to try and run that 420 last mile if you'd run a bunch of 430s. 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:51.280 It's not as easy as it sounds, yeah, or or whatever they might be doing on the field or on the court, so or on the ice. 00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:53.039 Totally. 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:54.079 Totally. 00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:06.079 I um I'm wondering if you uh do you still do any of the uh the uh agility stuff with the the dogs with your dongs? 00:39:06.480

--> 00:39:14.880 Yeah, I haven't done it now for a little bit just because we moved and I was like two plus hours away from where I was doing a lot of the training stuff with them. 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:23.199 And then like when you know I basically wasn't working, I was like, okay, I gotta cut like that cost out, unfortunately. 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:33.599 So um, but now that uh we'll be moving and uh you know I'm running for ASICs and my fiance's, you know, gonna finish up our third year residency. 00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:41.519 We can uh get back into doing some more of those like uh enjoyable things, stuff that we like to do outside of just running and stuff like that. 00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:50.079 But uh yeah, they're uh they uh and we, you know, so um it it's uh it's it's all gonna be uh good going forward. 00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.400 So I'm excited about a lot, even that stuff too. 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.760 So a lot of that stuff that you don't think about that you didn't get to do before that's gonna get reintroduced back into your life. 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.239 So uh all good stuff. 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:01.280 Wonderful. 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.280 Uh I'm so pumped for you. 00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.800 Um, all these positive things on your radar. 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.000 And yeah, what's uh what's the goal? 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:12.239 What's do you have a big goal in mind? 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.400 It's I mean, Olympics are 2029 this next cycle. 00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:17.840 2028. 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:18.960 Coming up. 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:19.519 Yeah. 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.800 Um where where's your head at with that? 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.320 And uh what's the aim? 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:25.840 Um yeah. 00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:30.719 Um, I mean, I uh my run the other day was really, you know, was really good. 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:41.760 And um I uh, you know, after I think this is probably uh you we'll probably talk about the race like last, like publicly and everything. 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:49.840 Um, but just because I I don't like to, well, like to like dwell or not dwell, but like think about that and like get complacent in anyway. 00:40:50.000 --> 00:41:09.440 So um I'm ready to after this week of down week and like being able to enjoy the race and everything, get back to work now for the next eight weeks going into uh Gold Coast Marathon, where um I'd like to have a pretty sizable uh PR after you know uh LA being really hot. 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.000 Last year when I went to Gold Coast, I had stomach issues and was forced into the bathroom. 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:19.360 So uh I'm hoping that this will be another one where all everything can come together and have a good day. 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:24.559 But uh I'm kind of just taking it one training cycle, one race at a time. 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:38.800 Um and I feel like if I can can stay on this same uh trajectory that I've been

on over the last, you know, since the turn of the year, um, when the trials come around in 2028, I'll be in the good position to make a run at the team. 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.440 Um, because I was uh I was eighth last time and I was you know 72 seconds in the marathons a lot, but not that much. 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.400 I feel like I could have made that up somewhere within the race over a couple miles or 10 miles or so. 00:41:50.559 --> 00:42:00.239 Um so uh I feel like uh this this go-around could be uh a special day and hopefully make the team and it'd be really nothing better than being able to stay. 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.159 I mean, everyone likes to travel for races, but nothing being able cooler than the middle of stay at home and race in LA. 00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:06.400 So uh I'm hoping it can come together then. 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.719 But uh that's that's a that's a ways off. 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.679 So a lot of lot more bricks to lay and training to do between now and then. 00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.039 So uh, you know, everyone in the running world is running really well. 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.199 So uh, you know, I'm just trying to do my part. 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:22.719 Nice. 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:23.679 Excellent. 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:31.360 And so you'll be in the Philly area, uh Jersey, Philly, um for the Philly 10K. 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:33.280 Will you run the Philly 10K this year? 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:52.880 Yeah, I mean, my my plan post-Gold Coast is we'll probably figure out some I'm gonna I'm gonna try and loosely the plan is to run the Gold Coast marathon um in July, um, and then come back and then uh go after a fast uh half this fall um and then do probably a marathon in like December time. 00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:01.599 Um so but I'll probably I'll definitely do um Philly 10K just to, you know, I just love the race, first off. 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:17.119 Um, so that that's my main reason for doing it, but it's also be good just to like get a race in, you know, kind of shake off the dust a little bit after uh um the uh uh the Gold Coast Marathon, and then um I'll probably do PDR uh a few weeks later. 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:24.159 So um I'm excited to have the opportunity just to be in the area to just hop on over to any of those races on a weekend and be able to do them. 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.920 Probably do, you know, something at uh marathon weekend. 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:29.440 So yeah. 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:30.639 But wonderful, yeah. 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.000 Philly 10K I'll definitely do again. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.840 I was supposed to do it last year, but I had a hamstring injury, so I had to pull out of it. 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.519 So but I was signed up. 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:38.400 Nice. 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:38.960 Okay. 00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.159 Yeah, that's uh it's always one of my favorite races just because of the uh the after party. 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:45.280 They do a good job. 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:54.079 Yeah, no, I it's a great race, and I love that it's just like it's kind of if I kind of feels contained there on it's you know, it's a big loop course, but it's pretty contained there on South Street. 00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:07.280 So it's uh, you know, there's not too many, there's no other race that really in Philly that doesn't like start like Over by the art museum, other than Broad Street, but all of them kind of start over there by the art museum, like Love Run and uh Hot Chocolate Run, I think starts over there. 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.360 They all marathon weekends there. 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.719 So it's cool that it's like actually in the city. 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:13.840 Yeah. 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:15.199 Love that. 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:16.559 Yeah, it's it's really unique. 00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.000 It's a it's a great one. 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:24.880 I um I've got a knee injury myself, but if I could manage that, I'm I'm hoping I'll see you there. 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:25.599 So we'll see. 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:31.519 Yeah, I think I think I saw that on one of the stuff you posted you were talking about that you said you had a uh knee thing going on. 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.239 So it's yeah, coming around. 00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:39.679 Yeah, so I uh I've had four knee surgeries from wrestling. 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.159 Okay, all meniscus. 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.920 And um, you know, it's yoga's been a godsend. 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:51.360 Like that's kind of my pillar, that's what allows me to even run. 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.719 And um, you know, I did a a dumb thing too. 00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:17.360 I was kind of trying to see if I could ramp up my capacity and mileage without hurting myself, without even a race on my radar to see if I could get up towards, you know, uh a marathon training cycle uh type of capacity to see if I could even get there and then try to sign up for a marathon after the fact. 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.400 Yeah, yeah. 00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:23.199 But uh, but yeah, I think I um overdid it a little bit. 00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:29.360 Um and it's I signed up for a half marathon with my brother in McKinney, Texas. 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:30.639 That's the one I saw. 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:33.599 It was it was good, you know. 00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.639 I I didn't hobble over the finish line. 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:46.400 So that's I got to uh run the whole time and uh the knee was stiff and but yeah, it was it was it felt it felt okay, you know. 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.320 I I thought it was gonna be way worse, you know. 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.159 I had to really work it out, stretch it out afterwards. 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.320 I think if I didn't do that, that would be uh a lot worse. 00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:04.559 And um yeah, and there was

this relay race up here in in upstate New York around one of the finger lakes, it's 77.7 miles. 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:06.800 Oh yeah, yeah. 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.119 Yeah, seven, seven of us. 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.480 It's uh each ran three legs of the race. 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:13.920 Oh okay. 00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:18.480 Yeah, and it's uh you know the distance what's that? 00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:19.519 What was that one? 00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:25.119 That was uh that was two two weeks ago only. 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.400 Okay, I think. 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:30.800 Yeah, so uh it's this weird kind of race. 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.880 It's it's really fun and interesting, but uh you guys like that are always fun. 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:49.599 That's it was all day, and uh the Cornell uh team smoked everybody, but yeah, uh you know, the hills, like the hills up here in the wind um are pretty intense. 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.360 Well, it's hilly up there. 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:52.880 It's very hilly. 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:59.119 So like the south end of these lakes, I think the way the glaciers kind of formed the topography. 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:03.039 Okay, like the southern end of these lakes are all very deep. 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:11.360 Uh the lakes themselves, they're like this one's 400 feet deep, that one over there, uh, that we ran around, Seneca is 600 feet deep. 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:18.800 And so, like down by Ithaca, yeah, and Watkins Glen, those those hills kind of map similar to the lake depth. 00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.000 It's very hilly. 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:22.719 Um more than rolling. 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.000 Yes, yeah. 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:44.559 And uh, you know, I had they had given me a a pretty an easier um easier legs because of my knee, but you know, those distances were like anywhere between like a 5k and like five miles, only three, three of them, uh three different legs. 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:51.119 And so yeah, I don't know what you're doing next year, but we need seven people. 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:56.239 We I don't know, you might probably scare me off there with all those hills. 00:47:56.559 --> 00:47:59.920 Yeah, you can take the hills, yeah. 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:21.119 Yeah, it's it's it's pretty intense uh with the hills up here, but uh you know, I I love the child like having something to aim for, like with running, even like as a recreational, like I don't even like to bring up the fact I run with folks like you because it seems like so uh like just for funds. 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:28.719 Uh but but it's yeah, it's nice to have like something on the radar to kind of aim for, even like as a recreational runner, you know? 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:39.599 I mean, anytime you got a Gold of War 4, it's good, you know, it kind of kind of keeps you accountable and uh you know to get out there every day and just you have a it gives a little bit more purpose to what you're doing, right? 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.000 They're kind of aimlessly just running. 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:48.719 Not that it is aimlessly, but you know, a lot of people like to have that carrot in front of them, myself included. 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:50.400 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:55.199 And uh you find that little extra race day you find out where you're capable, right? 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.000 It's yeah, something amazing about that feeling. 00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:58.480 Yeah. 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:00.880 The runner's high is a real thing, boy. 00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.960 Like after that race, I felt great for like a couple days, you know? 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:05.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:06.320 No, it's true. 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:14.320 And it's a great, it's great that you can get that from like a run too, not something like that is probably not as good for you to do. 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.800 Yes, totally, totally. 00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:22.800 So yeah, I um I'm hoping, I know I taught to you last, was it last year or two years ago? 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.880 I remember it was probably two years or year and a half ago. 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:28.400 Okay, yeah. 00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:38.320 I um I'm still hoping, you know, holding out hope that I could rest this knee, recover, and get out there for uh my first marathon. 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.719 I'm still I'm still aiming towards that. 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:50.480 So yeah, I mean, there's a lot of bumps on the road to a marathon, even when I mean I've had it for you know eight eight years of just trying to figure it out. 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:51.920 So you're not alone. 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:58.559 So if you just stick with it, you'll find you'll find a formula that works for you and you know it'll be here. 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:06.639 Yeah, I think at this age in my injury history, I think forcing those rest days are crucial. 00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:16.159 Yeah, I mean, rest is, I mean, you get better on workout days, but the rest days are where you make the adaptation from the workout, so it's as important, uh, if not more. 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:24.000 I mean, I I re my my easy runs or recovery runs are pretty pretty easy by comparison to where I race at. 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:26.960 So I think I did my recovery run. 00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.920 I ran 430 pace on Sunday, and my next morning my recovery run was 830 pace. 00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.280 So I was almost running twice as slow. 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:40.000 So but my body wanted, and that's what it needed, and it was it was totally fine. 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:40.559 Yeah. 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:56.000 Do you did you feel sore after at all or any residual um I think like if I was to go run hard, I would have felt fatigued, but I wasn't too sore post-race or um my legs actually felt really good the next day. 00:50:56.079 --> 00:51:00.079 Um, but uh, you know, I just I

knew it was recovery, so that's why I ran slow. 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:01.679 Um, but they actually felt pretty good. 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:08.800 I did like a moderate workout, or not moderate workout, I did like some strides within my run on uh Tuesday, um, and those felt good. 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.840 So uh, you know, on my first uh real long run coming next Tuesday. 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.679 So that'll that'll be the test to see where everything's where everything's sitting post-race. 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:18.480 Okay. 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:19.599 Awesome. 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:26.239 And you do anything to celebrate uh Broad Street win, or do you pretty much business as usual? 00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.760 Uh I mean, I went to the tailgate afterwards, which was fun. 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:40.719 Um, and then uh yeah, I mean, I just you know, I went home and then uh you know, I was my celebrating was kind of just you know, my fiance was in town, she raced Broad Street too, and she had a big PR. 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:42.719 So we were able to celebrate her run too. 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:50.719 And then um because I've been down here for so many years and stuff, I got to, you know, it was nice to spend more time with my brother and uh my family. 00:51:50.880 --> 00:52:07.519 So uh that was kind of the you know celebration for uh if you consider it one, but it was that was pretty much a celebration and it was just like you know, still back to work the next morning, and then in between, no, I got to, you know, we got to you know go to dinner, you know, hang out with him. 00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:12.239 So, you know, it was it was it was good, but but nothing nothing crazy, just super low-key. 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:13.599 Awesome. 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.159 Yeah. 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.360 Well, glad to hear all everything's going well with you, man. 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:26.159 It's uh real pleasure to watch you uh succeed and good things come your way with ASICs and fiance and moves. 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:32.000 And uh I always kind of curious how you're doing with the the running. 00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:35.760 And I saw the zap thing happen, and I was like, oh boy, what's next? 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.039 Uh like where does one go? 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.360 Like, I don't know anything about this business. 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:45.920 And uh awesome to see you not only land on your feet, but gosh darn it, man, you are doing great, man. 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.440 It's so sweet to see. 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.639 Um it's a good time to be a Josh fan. 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:56.719 Yeah, it's it's been a it was it's been a stressful, but uh the last month, like I said, has been has been good. 00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.840 So I'm I'm I'm happy and I'm really excited for the future. 00:52:59.920 --> 00:53:15.840 And you know, I just uh you know, it's having a you know have it takes a village to do this, you know, and

it's nice when other people around you are like, you know, I remember telling a few people, like, you know, you know, the Zap's closing down and they're like, you you can't quit. 00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.960 Like you gotta figure you, we'll figure this out. 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:25.280 And uh, you know, having other people, you know, that mean a lot to me say that, you know, means a lot. 00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:30.400 So um, yeah, um, that that's uh that helped through that time too. 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.599 But uh yeah, it's uh it's been a good I'm excited for the future. 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:36.079 I'm excited to see you run your first marathon too. 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:38.880 Now that we said it, it's gonna it's gotta happen. 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:40.800 We're gonna roll this into existence. 00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:42.800 Yes, yeah, totally. 00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:43.199 Yeah. 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:44.800 I uh yeah, man. 00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.920 I I might be uh asking you, I don't know. 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.599 I think you brought up uh a marathon in uh Minnesota. 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.280 Grandma's grandma's marathon, it's in uh it's in mid-June. 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:55.679 Yeah. 00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:57.039 Mid-June, okay. 00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.000 I'm kind of uh a bit late for that. 00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:08.719 But but next next year, I mean that gives you time to train, get ready, get the knee better, and uh it's a beautiful course, so yeah, yeah. 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:11.679 That's right, yeah. 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.000 Philly's and mid-November, I think. 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.880 It's on the weekend right before Thanksgiving. 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.239 Okay, yeah. 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.360 I mean, I would love it if uh this knee. 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:29.599 It's it's I'm shocked it's not I haven't gotten imaging of I'm just really kind of rehabbing it myself, like DIY. 00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.559 Yeah, so um, but yeah, man, I I really hope. 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:42.880 Um I've it's tempting to there's a a half marathon in Ithaca in the beginning of June, but I don't know. 00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:47.840 I'll see if the knee I don't know if I should do that just yet, but yeah. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.840 I mean, I give it a I'd wait another week or so to see how it's how it's progressing. 00:54:51.920 --> 00:55:05.360 If you're starting to see like more rapid progress with it, maybe, but um my my my history always says I'm probably better off being safe because I'll send myself back, but that's me. 00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:06.559 Yeah, yeah, man. 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:10.159 I I I'm similar and I just you know just get excited. 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:24.880 I had all this these plans like with races, and uh it's the hardest part, I'm sure, for someone like yourself who's like professional, I imagine, is if uh you get hurt, you know, it's it's uh a mental thing. 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.719 It's hard anytime you get hurt when you're trying to do something that you love. 00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:32.480 I mean, you know, it's like you can't you can't do something, you can't do it. 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.119 So it's just you know you just get bummed. 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:36.239 Totally. 00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:37.119 Yeah. 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:44.960 So yeah, hopefully I could be patient and uh get all healed up for for uh the next one, I hope. 00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.840 But uh but yeah, I uh wanted uh ask you while I got you here. 00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:50.960 Do you have any suggestions? 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:56.000 Do you have uh uh wearable a watch that you prefer to use? 00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:05.440 Yeah, I've been wearing um Chorus now for a while, and I I like it just because it's pretty uh it's pretty straightforward, it's very user-friendly, and it's just it's just an app. 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:11.199 You know, you just scan the little QR code, it pulls everything up for you when you set it up and you're good to go. 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.599 Um, so I like I like I like Chorus. 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:17.840 Um, but uh my fiance uses Garmin and Garmin's got a lot of great data too. 00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:24.320 I know there's a few other new watches out there now, but I haven't I have no knowledge of what they're like or anything. 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.079 Um but uh yeah, I've been using I've been using Chorus and I've liked it. 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:29.760 So okay. 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:30.239 Yeah. 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.480 I see that come up on uh some of my friends Strava that they use that. 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.079 So yeah, I'll check it out. 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:40.880 I think it's a I think it's just uh I think all the GKS watches now are pretty pretty good. 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:49.920 Um and it's just like a personal personal preference to what you like, what sort of how much data you want, you know, what your everyone's everyone's a little bit different. 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:51.280 So Okay. 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:52.320 Yeah. 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:53.280 Cool. 00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:01.599 Um yeah, any if folks want to find you, Josh, if they want to support you, where should we where should we point them? 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:09.039 Uh is Instagram good or yeah, I mean, I probably post most stuff about what I'm doing on Instagram. 00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:21.360 Um and I've been trying to I've been trying to get better about uh Strava, um like putting or responding to uh stuff in because usually it just like I don't go on there that often. 00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:23.599 It uh my run uploads, it goes there. 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:30.079 Um so I've been trying to be better about it, and uh but uh uh I gotta work on it a little bit. 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:34.960 But uh the best place is definitely probably Instagram um to just reach out. 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:48.639 And if

I don't reach uh get back to you, just reach out again because I probably just saw it and forgot to respond or said I'll respond in 10 minutes when I'm done walking the dogs and yeah, then it's three weeks. 00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:51.280 So it's not the same way, yeah. 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.000 Totally. 00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:52.800 Yeah, okay. 00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:57.039 So uh but yeah, otherwise, yeah. 00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:07.360 Well, I would uh love to catch up with you if I could uh you would be probably on your second beer by the time I finish the Philly 10k. 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:14.960 But but if you happen to be in Philly, man, I'd love to to catch up and uh and chat, maybe grab a beer or something with you. 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:16.000 Yeah, for sure. 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:27.039 I'll be um I'll uh I'll be figuring out that uh I mean I'll be doing the race, but uh I'll let I'll let you know when I'm officially signed up and everything, um, and good to go. 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:33.360 So my the immediate future right now is uh getting uh getting a place to live in, getting a place to live up north. 00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:36.000 So we're going through looking for places now. 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:38.880 So oh man, good yeah, good on you. 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.840 Are you gonna rent or are you gonna try and uh to buy a spot? 00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:50.320 Uh we're gonna rent since it'll be a year, and then um when she's done, um I'm lucky that I can pretty much be wherever I want. 00:58:50.480 --> 00:59:01.519 Um so um if she happens to be like, you know, get a job in Pennsylvania or you know, somewhere in the surrounding area up there that we can move and be close to there. 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.039 So it's not a long commute every day. 00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.559 So uh unfortunately it's another year of renting. 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:09.440 So yeah. 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:09.920 Okay. 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:14.239 Jersey is a hard place to rent with their uh laws and stuff. 00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:15.280 Oh, really? 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:27.599 Yeah, I mean, they just got like uh you know realtor fees and all sorts of like stuff to just make just seems like they're just trying to make money, but so it'll be a year and it'll be fine. 00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:36.400 So and it's it's a better, it's a better situation overall for um for for her especially, and then um for me running wise too. 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:40.880 So I'm I'm excited and uh it's gonna be it's gonna be it's gonna be good. 00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:41.920 Awesome. 00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:48.639 Well, very, very pumped for you, very happy to uh hear you're doing so well and to see all your success. 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:54.800 And gosh, man, congrats again, like unbelievable this uh Broad Street race. 00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.519 I uh I I saw that time and I had to do a double check. 00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.119 A double so so incredible, man. 01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.239 And uh very, very cool. 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:07.440 Yeah, my pleasure. 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.880 And uh I'm glad to hear that uh everything's going well for you too. 01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:22.639 And I hope the knee is uh better soon so you can get uh we can get this marathon in and uh yeah, when I'm up there, we can uh we'll grab a beer when I'm up there uh for the race and uh uh catch up then some more. 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:24.400 That's that sounds great. 01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:31.920 I I do appreciate you coming on and uh and sharing with everybody your your experience and uh and what it was like and everything. 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:33.280 It uh it means a lot. 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:34.800 Yeah, no, I it was great. 01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:45.039 I'm I'm happy to I'm happy to share and uh anyone that's got any questions, they can definitely uh reach out about whatever, and I'll do my best to help. 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.400 Awesome. 01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:48.559 Well, much appreciated, sir. 01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:51.760 I will uh let you get up to the rest of your Friday. 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:56.639 And uh yeah, I'd love to uh to circle back and do this again sometime soon. 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:57.679 Yeah, definitely. 01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:02.800 Just let me know and uh I'll uh I'll I'll hit you up and we can uh we'll figure it out, we'll make it work. 01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:03.599 Wonderful. 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:04.480 All right, Josh. 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:05.280 Great to see you, man. 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:06.239 Great to see you too. 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:07.039 Have a good day. 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:08.400 All right, take care. 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:08.960 Bye. 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:10.239 Thanks for tuning in. 01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:20.960 If you found my conversation with Josh to be interesting, entertaining, if you learned something, please give the podcast a like and leave a five-star review and share it with everyone you know. 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:29.599 You can find me on all social media platforms, especially Instagram at Yoga with Jake, and on my website, yogawithjake.com. 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:32.079 Until next time, take care.

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