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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by Polymarket. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. This is the show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined, as always, by my co-host, my BFF, my companion, my compadre, professional bettor, Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon.
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Speaker 2: How are we doing, Chad?
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Speaker 1: Brother, we are good. Tuesday was a pretty wild day. We recorded the show at noon Eastern. The trade deadline was for Eastern. So we did a lot of our analysis based on what we expected to happen. The biggest out of that was we expected the Raiders to trade Kirk Cousins to Minnesota. When we were doing the show, that line was, I think, three and a half I think when we got off the air, it was at four and a half. We were telling people to grab it while they could. That line is at six and a half. So there's a lot to dig in on because it's not the only activity that happened on Tuesday. Pretty exciting stuff. This is our Thursday week 10 show. You'll hear sharp calls. You'll hear brass balls. Our favorites and our underdog round robins. We're going to narrow down the board to get closer to to our final five picks for the Sharper Square $ 25, 000 Pro Football Pick'em Contest. But first, Simon, you've been hearing from the wise guys. I know they've been putting bugs in your ears about what we talked about on Tuesday. It is time for Sharp Calls.
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Speaker 2: Who's there?
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Speaker 1: I'm talking. Ring, ring, telephone ring. Somebody say it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Big, big conversation this week, just about the trade market. Right. And we, we talked on Tuesday about that, where guys are trying to get ahead of it. And fortunately, if you listen to the show early enough, allow those lines, you do get ahead of them. That's always the goal here. So yeah, the biggest one's definitely going to be that Seattle game, right? It was minus three, minus three and a half. It's now minus six and a half because it's Fernando Mendoza. And yeah, even then you talk to a lot of pros and they're saying, did it move enough? Is Kirk only three point difference than Fernando? That's a fair question. And that's a lot of pros are asking. So it's a unique number where it moved so much that pros came in on the other side and they've kind of held it now at six and a half. But most guys I've talked to, it's such a small amount. They're like, that's going to get to seven by Sunday, right? You just expect the general public coming so heavy and, Most pros I talked to took a really big position on the Seattle team. So, yeah, another game where you hope you got it. I hope people listened to what we were talking about with that one. And big, big movement off of that. Saints.
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Speaker 1: But just to be clear on that, sorry to interrupt, but they were taking the big positions mostly at three and a half, four and a half, not necessarily at six and a half. Or are you saying they're still taking it at six and a half?
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Speaker 2: You're right. I guess not as much money at the six and a half more, obviously towards the Raiders side, obviously the plus six and a half, but it was just interesting to me that they, the book tried to move it to four, four and a half. They got hammered so much money. They tried to move it to five, five and a half took even more money. They just were like, okay, fine. We'll go to six and a half. So that, that was just interesting to follow along and watch where I already had my position. So I didn't really bet much to do it. I was just tracking them because I just wanted to know where do the pros value for Danny Mendoza. And, We found that number, right? Six and a half. It never got to seven. So it was just a fun one to follow along. Saints, same kind of process here. The Saints, we both kind of talked like Carolina, is that the number? And I told you I was a little weary of it where it's like there's something up with this one. I knew there was going to be some pros on it that I know is going to be such a smart group that was going to take a position. No, if I would have known that, I would have been hammering the Saints here. And yeah, another game where I missed it. I wish I'd given out, but was stronger on it. I was kind of just– kind of half in, half out. I was just like, all right, I'll just take Carolina and teaser where pros, multiple groups I know have taken positions on the Saints, and it looks like that's going to be a big, big pros versus shows. Public is all over Carolina. Most pros groups I've talked to have taken a position on the Saints. Another game we talked about the pros, the number got moved heavily because of influence was that Indiana Colts game. It's always weird coming in here on Tuesday where, I want to give out as much info as I can, but I want to deal with that costing myself a lot of money. And I had known what was going on with Malik, and I knew I was in a weird position where I could talk about it, but I can't in an official position say, no, he's got a bad leg, most likely going to IR. I only could say, well, he doesn't look the same. He doesn't play the same. We want to take a position here on the Colts. And even you were like, I saw we were swearing off the Colts here, and it's like, I am, but it's all a cost, right? And that was... Another game where I thought this would honestly go up to five or six with Malik going out. The Colts, though, have kind of sold everything. If you look at their wide receiving court right now, it's a bunch of names you've never heard of. That's why this number's really only moved by a point, which I just think says more about the Colts than it does about Miami, where Miami's a bad team. They're going to have a nobody now at the quarterback position. It's just the Colts, man, they're so bad. For anything above three and a half, I get why there's resistance there. So that's another number the pros have betted. And
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now they've come in on the other side on Miami, and it's kind of held now. And I wouldn't be shocked to see more pros take the Colts. Like I said, people think Malik is terrible. Malik has done so much to keep Miami in these games, not only using his arm but using his legs. Like that's really been the difference. So that's another number I could see get to four. So people have asked a lot about that Colts moment. We're going to do it there now. You could still take it if you want, but I'm being very honest here. I will not be putting any more money into the Colts. I've taken the two-and-a-half. That's my position. I can't bet Daniel Jones a minus three and a half minus four. And that's where that number is going. So that's another one where the pros are really taking a stand on it. And just like this Vikings game where they bet it so much. Now, I think I'm, I've tried to talk, chat and taking green Bay, but the pros, I know they love, love, love the Vikings. And they're just like us, right? We've loved the Vikings last couple of weeks. It's burned us. The three and a half has burned us two weeks in a row on them. And you know, What we've talked about, they've just only been missing a quarterback. So I'm not shocked to see the professionals come in so heavy, taking it from five and a half down to three. But I am shocked they're so confident, Kirk, in his first start back on this team against a Green Bay team that looks like a legit Super Bowl contender. That's what's so interesting, where I want to be on the Vikings. It does feel like a great letdown spot for Green Bay, who's coming off their best game of the year. But just the amount of money, the amount of pros I've talked to that have taken that position on the Vikings– just really stood out to me. So if you want to join the pros, you can get the three and a half. I would still do it. But at three, I don't know too many pros taking the Vikings at just three. I know them at three and a half, but at three, I think there's a lot of resistance, a lot of green Bay money popping up. And that was just a really hot topic conversation in these last 24 hours was just, did you get the Vikings at a plus number or did you miss the party? And same can be said for Cleveland, right? I thought that was gonna be all pros. It's really split. I know a bunch of pros are on Houston and, Not buying this Cleveland team, let alone what we've talked a little bit about, Chad, just the fact that you're getting arguably the best two DNs in football going against, you could say, two of the worst graded out offensive tackles in all of football, which Cleveland, it's not their strength this year, right? Their offensive line has definitely been a weakness, and especially look at those two offensive tackles. So that's just one where I love Cleveland. I was just shocked to hear there's so much love on the other side, and not that shocking to hear there's going to be Tons of love for a team we talked about, Atlanta. Lots of love
at the plus three and a half on Atlanta. Just a little bit what we talked about, this Chiefs team and Mahomes, they're just not the team to blow out teams, and they've been helped out, especially the games they've covered, big games that they've covered. They've been helped out a lot by turnovers. Atlanta, this feels like the exact type of scenario where, once again, it's going to be all pros. I don't know anyone in the general public that's going to bat for Atlanta right now, especially– Most of the people are going to look at this board and say, well, they trade away Jesse Bates. Is this Atlanta team also trading away their center really that committed? Are they packing in for the season? So that's another number where we could keep going up, Chad, but I want people to grab three and a half now because that's where the pros are grabbing it, just in case it does keep going down if the pros keep hammering. But that's another number where we could keep going up too. To me, it's only pros, but in Atlanta, it's going to be the general public just hammering the Chiefs side and Yeah, two games we both love. Pittsburgh, Dallas, another pros all over it. And it's a thing, too. We talked a lot of pros. Every week, pros can be heavy on the dogs. This week especially, just because it was so heavily favored last week. These lines are getting a point to a point and a half of free. The books got beat so bad last week. They need pro money this week because it's just so much. The public, they don't roll their money out, right? They usually roll it over. So it's a week where A normal week, there might be a couple million here on the 49ers. It's reaching the tens, the 20s of millions of dollars for the public coming to the 49ers. It's just they're rolling so much money back into these favorites after last week. It's been interesting seeing these numbers fluctuate where talking about Dallas feels like it should be three, three and a half. You could still get four and a half at a bunch of different shops. You're getting a really good free point of value there at a lot of different places. The two ones that have been a lot of talk about these two late games, 425 obviously start for these Cowboys in the 8 o'clock start for the Pittsburgh team. Just a lot of guys are just like, I want to take my position, but I'm also aware that this is the later games where a lot of money is going to be coming in from the public on these favorites. Am I getting the best of the number or should I wait and get the four on Pittsburgh? It's a fair argument from a lot of pros this week. So definitely a lot of debate back and forth about that.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's dig in and try to make our decisions. Although Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Dallas, I think we feel pretty good about what we've been discussing and where we stand and how we're going to make some of our decisions. I do want to talk about the Thursday night game for a second because when we talked about it on Tuesday, we
expected weather to be a factor. I don't know that it's going to be in this one. Less of a chance of rain later in the day than before the game. I bet the Giants at one and a half, it got up to two and a half. Now it's coming down to two. I'm a little wary of it right now. It's surprising to me that I'm hearing a lot of professionals coming in on Washington. I think we've got a coaching mismatch in a short week and a team that is statistically a little bit better. I didn't like it at two and a half, but I did like it at one and a half. Any sentiment on the Thursday night game, if weather is not a factor and we're just getting two teams at relatively full strength based on what they've been the past couple of weeks in a short week between two division rivals.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong. Some pros I talked to have taken big positions on Washington and the over. I think the total is like 41. um because of what chad's talked about a little bit here of this rainstorm was supposed to be much worse earlier than today and they've kind of predicted now that's kind of kind of moving out towards the north by the time this game kicks off so it could not be that rainy and actually not that bad of conditions for the start of this game and i i don't know i look at this matchup but i i get why people are backing the commanders but i still think we we have this vision of jayden daniels who's just not been that player the last two years and I, I've been someone that's been very wrong about the Giants. So it's like, it's weird for me to talk people into taking the Giants where it's just a team that I totally get. It doesn't make sense week to week, you know, whether it's JJ or Jameis Winston, this team keeps finding ways to win. And you see every week through their defensive line keeps getting better as well. Like that's what I'm going to show up out to me. Like these guys, you know, three, four years straight, they've taken these D linemen in the first round. starting to really pay off for him and this is the exact matchup you draft those guys for right a mobile quarterback in jay daniels you saw against the rams right if he can't get outside the pocket and use his legs he is not useless but he's not you're not scared of him you're not scared of him passing the ball downfield like jay daniel's rookie year you were terrified about him pushing the ball downfield this year you don't really have that fear if you can just keep in the back the pocket that's where you feel more confident so I'm going to be with the public here. I'm not going to lie. I'm going to be with the Giants Thursday night, primetime game. Totally get why they're coming on the commandos. I just think they're read on it's wrong, in my opinion. I don't think Gene and Daniel's that great of a situation here. And the fact that, like you talk about the coaching mismatch, Dan Quinn, he's done nothing to show me that he's been a good coach this year. And, you know, defensively, you say, well, they only gave up 20 points against the Rams. That was felt like by design of the Rams, honestly. They were just ball controlling that entire second half. And just Stafford, you know, as much as he's been up and down, he wasn't really pushing the ball downfield. They were just literally running it down their throats, which I think the Giants are going to do the exact same thing here. So whether it's JJ, whether it's Winston, it's not going to be that big of a factor to me. You kind of see what this Giants team is. They're a team that wants to run the ball, push the ball downfield. If there's no weather, I think that favorites them. So, yeah, I'm against the pros here for sure.
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Speaker 1: Abdul Carter is, I think, grading out as the third highest graded pass rusher in the NFL right now. Just as you point out, that defensive line just gets better and better for the Giants. New England versus Detroit in Munich. Detroit is a two and a half point favorite. This one goes up to three, gets down to two and a half, goes to three, gets back down to two and a half. In the past 48 hours, three seems to be the line of demarcation. I'm assuming it's just there's some professionals that have opinions on New England at three and professionals that have opinion on Detroit at two and a half. Jared Goff, a surprise limited in practice with a chest injury. The expectation is he'll play. I think the bigger factors are that the Patriots are without Ramondre Stevenson. They are likely to be out without Carlton Davis. They are without members of their offensive line. They're without Travion Henderson. They are getting A.J. Brown back, hopefully. He did practice, but their running game is going to struggle, and they don't have a ton of protection for Drake May. And getting downfield, the one thing they need to defend against against the Lions, is going to be a challenge. So I guess I'm trying to figure out where is the sentiment for the Patriots on this?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we should keep selling the Patriots, right? Like we are eventually going to jump back onto this team. But you talked about it. Can they overcome all these injuries where they're just not that good of a team? They weren't a good team last year. They just had a nice schedule and things broke their way. We talked about that. It's the same thing this year. Like the moves they've made in the offseason, they just haven't really been able to reap those rewards yet. And you look at all the injuries they've had, they're a worse team than they were last year. And that's the toughest part trying to handicap this where it's like, Both of us want to back Vrabel after getting blown out. Why would we not? He just got embarrassed at home. I mean, the most points they've given up in New England in like 20 years, 45 points at home. You expect Vrabel to just hammer his guys this whole week, and they bounce back in a big way. But they don't have the pieces, in my opinion. They're playing
against a Lions team that they do have the pieces. And they're a team that, you know, they're coming off a run here. The golf injury does scare me a little bit. That's another part of it where it's not– going to bat here but to me if golf was fully healthy this would be three three and a half by now like i.
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Speaker 1: Just you think that's the you think that's what's sort of the hold up the hold up is the golf.
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Speaker 2: Injury because if they're if they can if they can get away with protecting him in this matchup you're not going to have him drop back 40 times and pass the ball and that's that to me stinks because you just saw what green bay was able to do pushing the ball downfield I mean, not that Goff can redo exactly what they just did, right? Jordan Love is very unique this season on his 50-50 balls. He's been incredible in these deep shots, in rhythm. But you've seen Goff when he has time, obviously, he can really light up these defenses. And this D-line of the Patriots are not exactly getting after quarterbacks. Especially, we saw last week, Green Bay is a bad offensive line. That's really what we keep harping. That's the biggest weakness they have. They're down to third starters on that guard position, the center position. So, you know, you look at this match with Detroit, they should be able to move the ball at will. They have such a better offensive line. They should be able to run the ball, pass the ball. And the more I break it down, it's just like, if they can move the ball on the ground, why wouldn't they just eat that clock up, keep the ball at Drake May's hand, beat Gibbs in this great matchup where we've seen against the Vikings, you saw against Miami, that's what they really did in the second half, right? They really ball controlled, ran the ball as far as down both those teams' throats. So, That's probably my only pause here, but still two and a half. Love the number. We talk all the time. International favorites. It's a nice trend to back them. But shockingly, right now, the public side is the Patriots. They have the money for the most part from the pros and the public. So we'll see where it goes. I think at two and a half, that's where I want to be with the Lions.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I am. Two and a half. Simon, it's time for our Brass Balls Trade of the Week. presented by Polymarket. It's going to be the Atlanta Falcons trading at three and a half at 52%. You know what it takes? It takes brass balls. This was, as we talked about on Tuesday, very nearly Chad's choice until you politely, gently suggested, maybe I want to go with the Steelers given our history and tradition. I do see, though, one book has moved it to three. Other books are headed in that direction. They aren't there yet, but it is going to continue to get more expensive to trade the Falcons at three and a half. Patrick Mahomes practiced. You can't assume that the elbow injury is going to be a thing. Josh Downs is now on the team. Is that a factor?
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 1: But honestly, we're playing a number. We're playing a spot. We're playing on the team that just got blown out. We're playing against the team that wanted to blow out. We do like the Falcons' ability to execute a pass rush. We are still not convinced the Chiefs, even if they had tremendous pressure against the Raiders, they can replicate that against the Falcons. But mostly we just want people to get the three and a half.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's another game where I... had a couple of people reach out about it and just just the Jesse Bates stuff and the fact like I talked about the fact they traded their center does other stuff were you it's not great obviously like this is key positions and we talked Jesse Bates any time you know the running back gets outside the corner misses Jesse Bates started cleaning up any time receiver catches the ball the second man is always Bates like he's been incredible and I totally get why people are asking those questions but I also look at this matchup where the Falcons I know it's tough to do but they've they've been really up and down this season you look at the games they have shown up for and the one they played well in I mean think about that Green Bay game like the fact that they went to Green Bay on a Thursday night and blew them out like there's just there's a lot about this Atlanta team that I get why people hesitate right they're coming off a 34-17 loss to the Bengals. The game before that, they got blown out by Tampa. Those two guys' games really stick their head where just think about how bad all you guys wanted to bet the Falcons against Tampa when they just beat the 49ers 29-20. Remember we talked about that? That's why I was so high on bidding Tampa. It's like we're at peak Falcons. It had gone too far at that point. Yeah. we've come back to their way now where it's like, I totally get the love for the chiefs, but we haven't seen this Falcons light teams up and you could sell. Well, they had the zero against Tampa and that tsunami. And then, you know, once again against Cincinnati, they couldn't move the ball in the second half. They totally let down. A lot of people would back them against the bangles on the road there, but it's like, I don't know. I've seen this with Pennix where the, the bangles, I feel like every little thing was going wrong from that game. He just couldn't get right where, We talk about this. This Chiefs team doesn't have a pass rush. You could say, well, they did against Geno. That was once they got a big lead. They really didn't have that type of rush where are we expecting the Falcons to take threes here? I'm not. I don't think they're going to be like the Jets. I think if they get in the red zone, they're going for one of those fourth downs. They're going for the sevens against Mahomes and this Chiefs offense. The Chiefs have been burning us. That's probably another hang-up I've gotten from
people, but it's eventually going to turn the other way. And this was like another situation where it's turning this other way. And like Chad said, we're not the only ones who love this, right? Other pros are joining us on this one. And despite this being a really huge public side, I think it's like 80% of the bets and 80% of the money right now is on the chiefs. Chad said, this is reverse line action movement. It is going down to 300, a bunch of different shops and poly market even popped at two and a half and a couple of different points like yesterday. So poly market is not, is not the only one that's moving this number right now. A lot of different places are. So, You can trade this right now, 3.5 at Polymark. I feel like that's a perfect number and perfect spot where this feels like a field goal game. The upside of Atlanta could easily win this game. They're not that much worse of a team than the Chiefs. I know the record doesn't prove that out. I don't think Atlanta's put on the season like people are thinking they are. I think they took advantage of a really strong trade market, got a great value on Jesse Bates, who's going to be gone after this year, and a center who was also on a final year of his contract, and I just look at this team that if they made those moves, they're obviously confident in the guys behind them. They're not plunked on the season in division there. They're tied for first place at 3-7. The NFC South is wide open even at this spot. This Falcons team, I think they're going to be very motivated and hungry in this game. Just looking at previous matchups when these teams have played, it tends to be close games, whether it's Mahomes in the quarterback position or back in the day when it was Alex Smith. These teams have a long history of playing each other. you know, every couple of years, and it's always very competitive games. And I look at this matchup now with Andy Reid, and it's like, I don't know if they have the offensive weapons to really blow out this Atlanta team. It feels like Atlanta's always going to be in it with the weapons they have offensively. And we've been talking about B. John Robinson. This is another match that favors him. Like, will they go all in and take him away? And if they put it all on Penix? Me and Chad talk about the injuries of the secondary in Kansas City. Doesn't that exploit Penix even more? They want to take advantage of the secondary of this Chiefs team. So, yeah, I'm trying hard to convince myself that people can probably hear it, trying to convince myself hard to take this Falcons team. And it's one that just– I'm trying to get past what Falcons have done the last two weeks. I'm like all you. Are we buying into our Falcons team? It's on a downturn right now. But I think that's just a weird tsunami game, then a weird international game, and the public's overrating a little bit too much these past two weeks in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: And probably overrating a little bit too much what's happened with Kansas City, right? And they're always going to be a public side and you're definitely getting at least a half point of value when you're backing a team that is just gotten blown out, especially against a team that just blew someone out. So that's a trend that's going to be on your side. I need to tell you about this new prediction market called Polymarket. It's the best new way to trade in sports in the past. If you wanted action on the game, you'd put some money in. And if your team was doing well and you wanted to cash out, they'd lock the trade or take a huge fee. But Polymarket is a prediction market, a stock exchange for sports where you can buy and sell on your terms. I've tried them all. And Polymarket is simply the best prediction market. They're so confident you'll never go back to the other guys. They're giving you a free $ 25 on your first trade when you deposit just $ 10. And now they've launched a new feature, Squads, a group chat. where you can see what everyone is trading on. Check the link in the description to join my squad today and sweat picks together every Sunday in the Polymarket app. So download the Polymarket app today and use Sharp when you sign up. That's Sharp to get $ 25 free after you deposit just $ 10. You mentioned Houston and Cleveland in the Sharp calls. Cleveland is a four and a half point underdog at home. And when we talked about this one on Tuesday, what we really said was, We wanted to hold off because we wanted to back Cleveland, but we thought this number might get to five. So there is a five lingering out there in the market right now. I don't know about you. I have not bet the Browns yet, even though the five is there, even though Deshaun is back, even though we like betting the Browns at home. I've just really been hesitant to do it. And then I got this stat from our friends at Killer Sports. If we're talking about games beyond six weeks of the season, favorites that are below 500, facing a team that is above 500, 70% against the spread in the Killer Sports database, going back a it's one of the reasons why I haven't been able to put my finger on it, but I have been hesitant and we're seeing that in sharp calls where the, the opinions are pretty split.
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Speaker 2: Totally fair. I'm not, I'm not going to beg people here to bet this one in the sense that we've talked a little bit about it. Like this is just a total mismatch up front, Texas defensive line compared to the Browns offensive line. And, you know, we've seen this year, like Deshaun Watson has been heavily pressured and, A lot of texts and messages I got yesterday was just Munkin weirdly wouldn't commit to if it was going to be Shador Sanders or Deshaun Watson, which I thought was very bizarre. Hasn't Deshaun Watson, who was 5-2 as a starter this year, earned that right to be the starting quarterback in this game, not Shador? So maybe we don't understand Munkin's playing with Deshaun's head because he knows that's the
motivation Deshaun Watson needs. Who knows? I'm not going to. Same thing about that. I just had a lot of messages about it, and I'm sure fans have seen that stuff. So I just totally get it. All the hesitation this week is going to be on the Browns. I don't know who's going to be backing the Browns other than the pros, right? It's just the pros are going to back them here. I told you that crazy stat since 2023, the Browns at home. Think about how terrible all these teams have been the last two years or three years, I should say. They're 19-9 against the spread at home. So that's what I talked about. Yeah, but it's what I've talked about where it's like they play better at home, especially defensively, and they tend to always be a free point to two points of value at home because they're usually coming off a non-cover and a loss. Now, they did cover last week, but they are coming off a loss. And usually the general public just does not trust the Browns. They usually want to stay away. On the flip side, Houston's coming off a 20-point win. So it's not that shocking to see that. It's about– 85% of the money in most places right now are on the Texans. It's just the public can't get enough of it. They're hammering them. It's like you said, they're looking at this team that they feel like they should be 5-3 or 5-4, not the Browns. Houston, you're right, that's the most shocking part, seeing them just sitting there with just three wins. I've talked about it. You go through their schedule, they don't blow teams out. They blew out a really bad team last week, but The Browns aren't a bad team that's quit on the season. They're a team that in every game, they're highly competitive and they fight every game. Are they due for a blowout? Sure. I mean, if you're banking on that, then take Houston minus six and a half, take them minus nine and a half, like bet, bet all the wacky numbers you want to, if you're really going to back Easton here. But someone like me, I'm, I just, I think this will be another close game with the Sean Watson has the ball in the fourth quarter to get us either the cover at four and a half or potentially the win. So it's like, another week of me taking the number at four and a half and probably taking a little on the money line with this Browns team. They're just, you can't quantify what they've been this year. And it's really been a Watson fourth quarter comeback. I, do believe he was in that Saints game. He would have probably found a way to win that game. It's just what he's done. And you can't say that short and do the same, right? Short put him literally in an exact scenario where they should have won that game. They lost by a two-point conversion at the end of the game. That's really been the Browns MO this year. So, I, I, it's, it's not one of my favorite dogs. Like we've talked to these other dogs. I love more obviously like Dallas and Pittsburgh and even the Falcons. Maybe I can convince you on these other favorites to get in the contest, but we can't find a, find a fifth team to put in. I promise people I'm going to pitch and chat on this Browns team. Cause it's just, it's gross. It's ugly, but it's just, you consistently have to take this Browns team at home until they're a great team in the future where they're everyone's all over them. Every time we get the Browns here at home, We're getting a free point or two just because everyone in the general public hates this team. That's just the way it is. And I looked at the same thing here where this probably should be three and a half. Let's now get up to five. Maybe if we're lucky, this keeps going up. Maybe we get six and a half. I just don't know who's betting this Browns team to stop the train here. So I get why you haven't bet it yet. I bet it, but I'm like you. I'm going to be very patient on this one so you can get a better number.
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Speaker 1: One more stat for you. The Texans this week are one of– two luck rankings sides by a very wide margin. So one more, I didn't even know that until late yesterday, early this morning when I was looking through all the final research and I was still like trying to figure out how to bet the Browns. And then I saw this, I'm like, Jesus Christ, how do I, how do I, How do I manage that information now? It's a tricky one. I'd be curious if this one ends up in the final five. Jags minus 10.5 at Tennessee. Look, in this spot, I alluded to this on Tuesday, Liam Cohn and Trevor Lawrence have been dominant. They've won. They've won by margin. They've won big. They have not been a team that falls prey to traps anymore. And as competitive as the Titans have been, this number has still moved from 9.5 to 10.5. I know there's going to be some sentiment to bet the Titans here. I don't believe we share that sentiment.
00:32:15
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the Jags. It's just a game where, because it is so big, it's never going to be easy. We're always going to be fearful of getting back door. And we're really going to need so big, the Jags to do what they've done this year, which is they have blown out bad teams, which, you know, we talk all the time. Like that's why they're viewed as the Superbowl Kennedy team. But that's the fear right now is you're basically back at a team that, you know, they blow out the Colts 42 to seven and they just blew out the Ravens 33 to 10. So you want to bet, bet three straight blowouts, Chad, is that what we're doing here? So, I'm with you. I'm going to do it. I'm betting it. But we're basically saying this is like the top two team in the AFC. That's what that bet really is saying.
00:33:00
Speaker 1: That's honest to God what it is.
00:33:02
Speaker 2: You're betting a team to blow out a team three straight weeks of blowing teams out. It doesn't matter how bad the teams are you're playing against. We talk all the time. It's still the NFL. These are still highly paid, highly competitive guys you're blowing out week to week. Colts, Ravens. I would say
they're on the same field as this Tennessee team. They're all terrible. You want to say Cam Ward is better than Daniel Jones or whatever these teams are putting out there, it's like, is he that much better? Tennessee has been very competitive these last couple weeks. Aren't they due for a letdown game? Or are they really that team right now? I know Silas had the guys playing. I gave you those stats. They barely lost to Cincinnati. They barely lost to Cleveland. They beat the Colts. They've been highly competitive, but You know, when they play true great defenses, that's where they've been terrible Tennessee this year, right? Like Houston absolutely dominated when they played Houston. The Jacks are a great defense. We talked about it. Like they're one of the best run defenses, and I know they've had injuries. They went on, you know, they lost a de-tackle. They went on and got a de-tackle.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: Two de-tackles.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, two de-tackles. They're worried about the safety position. I can't say enough how great Jesse Bates is. They went on and got– a top four, top five safety in this league, and Jesse Bates, who's a ball hawk. You know, a lot of moving parts, I get it, where it's like, yeah, maybe I'm more comfortable if these guys are at a couple starts under them, but the base is there. Like, the unit they already have is there. Those guys will be able to bring in, I think they'll step right into that defense and stay where they're at, which is one of the best run defense in all of football. So, you see this Tennessee team, if Pollard can't do it, and if it's all on Cam Ward, you're dead. You can't. be 100% all on Cam Ward being the guy for you in these type of games. So if you come in Sunday morning, Chad, and you're like, hey, I still love the Jags. Can we get there? Is the favor we're putting in there? I could be tugged into it. I'm drinking the Kool-Aid right now so much on this Jaguars team, the flip side Tennessee. I just feel like they're so due for a letdown game. And we've already seen where this Jags team, they can get out early. They can get up 10-0 or 14-0 on this Tennessee team. And it really is all on Cam Ward to pass them out of it in the first half. Oh, my God. That's our dream, dream scenario.
00:35:20
Speaker 1: They will not take their foot off the gas.
00:35:22
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm with you. I like the Jags here. It's just the fear is we could have got the 9.5 and now it's up to 10.5. So that's a little bit of it. But overall, we're both betting on this to be a blow and not so much a 10-point win.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: Simon, the game we've been waiting for is Minnesota-Green Bay. Green Bay is now a three-point favorite. Kirk Cousins back in Minnesota. How do you like– That, the line move from five and a half down to three. Jordan Love has been as hot and as accurate as any quarterback in the NFL this year. Leading the league in total yardage. Most passing yards and second most completions of passes
longer than 20 yards. Against the Blitz, his EPA... is over 16, that's second best in the NFL. And by the way, like the Vikings for all their dominance in just about every category, the one category where they are less than dominant, meaning they're 10th in the league, is EPA and Yards Allowed on passes of 20 plus yards, which totally makes sense. They are blitzing 75% of the time. A lot of their guys are on islands and they're going to be susceptible and vulnerable to longer passes downfield. I'm not knocking them for that, but they happen to be vulnerable to the one thing that Jordan Love has been dominant doing this year, both throwing downfield and doing it against the blitz. The Packers may not have a running game. And that is what the Vikings have really been vulnerable to late in these games because they're so exhausted from having to carry the offense. So doesn't three just feel like it's the right number at this point? Like you're not getting the hook at three and a half. You're not getting the two and a half. Why would anyone bet this game with confidence on either side if the number is three?
00:37:37
Speaker 2: I would say the confidence for me would be Green Bay at the three because I feel like that's when it's shifted to being a Green Bay number. But three and a half, anything above that, obviously Vikings. We've been at it every week. It's just you have that great of a defense. You're getting the hook with the points. If you just get anything in your quarterback position, you should be in the position to cover that number. That defense keeps you in so many formable, great positions, especially short fields, all of it. We can't say enough about how great this Vikings defense has been. The biggest one for me is just the fact that Green Bay has already lost to Minnesota. I mean, we know the deal, right? Being someone in your division twice, it's so tough. It really is. Especially where, you know, Kirk is stepping in. He knows the system. He knows all that. It's got to be a little bit of an adjustment going from Kubiak offense back to KOC's offense. I know they could change all the terminology. It's not going to be that much different. But at the same time, there is a difference. And people are just immediately saying, well, And never mind, they're putting this in as Kirk's been here all year. Like, that's what this line movement says to me, where people are just, oh, problems are solved. The Vikings got the quarterback now. It's all good. Where it's like, are they? And aren't they going against a really good defense? Like, Green Bay, as much hate as I get at the beginning of the year, I thought they were going to be a terrible defense without Parsons. They've been great this year, especially in the secondary. Like, their safeties have been playing at such a high level.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:38:58
Speaker 2: You know. I told you, like, the reason I really want to fade Green Bay is because they're coming off their best game of the year. Like, you just saw with the Bears. The Bears had played their best game of the year on the road. Came home, you know, Caleb came out through two touchdowns and all of a sudden couldn't stop laying eggs. And that's just the way football is, right? It's really hard to stay so great, especially when you're coming off the high of highs, having a huge win. That was a huge win for the Green Bay. They went to New England in a game that, you know, they're a three and a half point dog and they blew them out 45 to 27. Like, that's a, like, we said, a perfect game from Jordan love.
00:39:32
Speaker 1: And by the way, 45 to 27 is, is closer than the score really was.
00:39:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's a game where Jordan love, you can keep thinking he's gonna have a letdown game. And like you, you look at the season they've had this year and you know, like Chad said, Jordan love, uh, He's great at these 50-50 balls, and that's the weakness of the Vikings. That's another point to this Green Bay team where it's like exactly what the Packers want to do. That's the one area you can really attack this Vikings team. It does stink they don't have a run game, but I saw a little bit from Caleb Johnson last week where it's like maybe they found something with him in the run game. He's a big bruiser, and maybe that's what they need in Green Bay. It's like, okay, we're not good to run the ball, but at least we can wear out these defenders. If that's all he's doing, that's great because that's going to be more– advantageous Jordan Love in the passing game where it's like if these corners are going to step up and now tackle a big running back, that's going to wear them down into the fourth quarter where that makes even better for the receivers playing against a worn-down cornerback. So, yeah, it's just about the number for me. If it was three and a half, I could have been sold on taking this Viking side, but maybe it's a game we'll just avoid for our contest. But as we're sitting here right now, it's like the few favorites I do like, I kind of love Green Bay now that it's down to minus three. And we'll see Polymark. It might move them minus two and a half. Then it's like, oh, my God. Now I really like Green Bay. I'm getting them at home against Kirk Cousins' first start for Minnesota at two and a half with Jordan Love, the MVP considered frontrunner right now. A game they need to win individually because they've already lost to Minnesota. I mean, that's too much a pass-off for me at that point for Green Bay. And we'll say– A line I need to follow all week.
00:41:09
Speaker 1: If– If we needed to make a choice and Green Bay was one of the options for our final five, I'd be much more inclined to put in Green Bay than take the Minnesota side in this game. So I agree with you on that. If it came down to Green Bay and Jacksonville, I'd probably take Green Bay before I would take Jacksonville. Let's talk about Carolina for a second because clearly I was wrong.
Carolina is a two and a half point underdog on the road in New Orleans. I was wrong in my analysis from a professional betting market point of view. I liked Carolina at plus one and a half. I thought the line was going to flip. It's actually gone in the same direction. You hinted at that on Tuesday. It was confirmed with sharp calls and any analysis you've done in the past 48 hours. I don't understand why this line moved. I don't understand why people aren't backing Carolina. Clearly, that's a square play because that's where the money is and it's moved in it's where the bets are and it's moved in the direction of the saints anyways so what am i missing.
00:42:15
Speaker 2: Here you know i had a couple people up to the show uh mostly fans of the show just sending me all the charts about we talk all the time there's certain teams in certain divisions that just own teams in their division the saints own carolina and they have for years now and i mean you think about how horrible the quarterback position has been for the saints chad let me just take it for the last five times they've played so last year they played In December, with Chuck, obviously, the Saints beat Carolina 20-17. And last year they went to Carolina, they won 17-7. Then in 2024 when they were at Carolina, they lost 23-22. And that same year when they played Carolina at home, they won 47-10. Jesus. And then in 2023 at home, the Saints won 28-6. So it's just a long run. That's crazy. I know.
00:43:08
Speaker 1: It's like when we talked about the Cardinals having that edge on the Cowboys. That makes no sense.
00:43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Or I was going to say Seattle just owns the Cardinals.
00:43:18
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:43:19
Speaker 2: You're right. Weird teams don't match up well with certain teams. And I had a bunch of fans say to me, does that mess with your head? I was like, it does now. I didn't know that. So now that you put that in my head, yeah, that matters. The Saints clearly match up well with this Panthers team, whatever it is, player-wise. Yeah. the coaching staffs have changed the quarterback has changed this is going back three years now or like it's just those type of things don't really make sense where it's like why are they blowing them out more often than not the Saints blow up the Panthers so I talked about where it feels like the Panthers I'm treating them as if they're coming off a win I know everyone else isn't treating that way but that Denver game was so egregious the referees all this nonsense that I priced them as if they'd won because that's the way I view those type of games, right? I don't try to price them as if they lost, even though they did. The general public has priced them as if they lost, right? And that's why they are coming in so heavy on Carolina. And flip side of the Saints, overtime game, emotional win. You're expecting a letdown spot here. And that's why you've seen so much money coming on Carolina. But I just knew the pros were
going to take a side of the Saints here. Well, the Saints do play better at home. As bad as they've looked this year, you know, as bad as Shook has looked, The offense is getting better in the sense that he's gotten all his weapons back, the wide receiver position, but also Shook's using his legs finally, which has been a big difference. So, yeah, just matchup-wise, maybe I could give in to it. There's obviously other favorites I like more in betting this week, but it's another team where Sunday we come around here, I am going to have a decent amount of money probably on the Saints. It's just I think we're both just slow, too, because we both love the Panthers, and it's like just something feels wrong about betting the Saints here, but you look at underlying numbers and this is a great match for the Saints team. And yeah, maybe it's a game we can just avoid because obviously we don't know what to do with it. But yeah, I can tell people very strongly the pros are all over the Saints team. The public is very, very much all over this Panthers team.
00:45:19
Speaker 1: Feels like it's got a sharp versus square vibe to it. San Francisco at Dallas. Dallas is a four and a half point underdog. This was Simon Says presented by Polymarket, the Cowboys were trading around 53% at four and a half. Look, it's moving. So people should have grabbed it when we talked about it on Tuesday. It's at four in some places. If you want to trade the four and a half of prediction markets, it is going to be more expensive to play the Cowboys. I know it's crazy to say that a wide out is a key reason why you'd want to back the wide out not playing is a key reason why you would back the other side. But Mike Evans isn't playing, and this Niners team, despite what they did last week, is just a different team without Mike Evans. And I don't know that Keenan Allen is going to be the answer to their problems not having Mike Evans. And I do like what the Cowboys offense can consistently do. The defense is the problem, we know. We don't know the Joey Porter status. We don't know the George Pickens status. But we do know that the professionals... are going to be in the Cowboys at four and a half. And so are we.
00:46:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. And like the way you thought about the Browns burning us, not that I feel like the Cowboys are going to burn us. We see it a thousand miles away, how this could go, right? The 49ers are just one of the best teams in football right now. And they're just so well coached on the flip side.
00:46:47
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are not.
00:46:49
Speaker 2: Yes. Sean, I was not that guy. They have stupid penalties. Like I, I totally, I got so many messages about this game. They're like, why are you doing this to us? And I, it really is about playing the number. but this is another game where fans sent me the head to head records. I didn't realize that the 49ers have owned, owned the Cowboys. And, but my memory for us is just like, you know, one of my best, best fondest memories is us fading. Obviously this Cowboys team on the 49ers in the playoffs. Yes. And I think the 49ers won like 19 to 12 or something like that. Somewhere, somewhere around that. But it was just, No one believed in them. We loved the 49ers. We loved the under in that game and both hit. Like Dak and that offense, it was at that time, I think they were like the number one and number two scoring offense in football. They could do nothing. And obviously they played in 2024. Same thing that people are going to remember. I think it was 24. Or maybe no, maybe that was the playoff game I was thinking of where Dak famously didn't spike the ball. You remember he ran the ball up the middle?
00:47:47
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:47:47
Speaker 2: The referee got in the way. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Antonio Romo was just like in disgust and shock. It was just like, I don't know, Jim. I don't know if they're going to get there, and they didn't. They didn't get there. They didn't spike the ball, and they lost that game that way.
00:47:59
Speaker 1: That was a great Tony Romo, by the way.
00:48:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, we miss you, Tony. I don't know what to do with it because it just feels like to me it feels too easy with the Cowboys where it's such a big number, and we've had so many opportunities with this Cowboys team that we know how terrible their defense is, but Dak and this offense, they've been good this year. They've been putting up points every week. Every week they're so competitive in all these games, and the games they got blown out in– Green Bay, a very good team. They lost by 10. Tampa, we obviously all know that Thursday night game, they had nothing going on. They lost by eight. So they've struggled against good defense. I don't know, you know, that's probably my only hang up here. It's like, you know, 49ers are just like those other two teams. They have really good defenses that obviously could stop Dak. But I just, I see a number this big on a Dallas team that they're just so desperate. Like that win against the Colts, they should have lost that game in a thousand ways. We talked about that. They, they, They had double the amount of yards than that Colts team, and they only won by four because they had so many stupid turnovers, so many penalties. As much as a good win that was, it was such a sloppy one that it makes total sense why no one's backing this Cowboys team, right? It's all 49ers money. So that's why people ask about this betting market, why it's just so much 49ers money. People just do not like this Cowboys team. They're totally off by that. like they're just that game last week them not covering against the Colts that left that left a bad taste in a lot of the public's mouth betting on this team so yeah we know it's a big number but I'm just I keep thinking about Dak and this team this offense at home I think they're always another opportunity back through this number especially at four and a half and You've seen some shops move to
four, three and a half. So I'm not alone. There's other pros betting this with me. It's just I'm having a tough time trying to convince the fans to do it. I've had so much pushback from different people listening to the show. I totally get the pushback, but this is what we do here. We try to bet against the best teams on football just because we think they're a little overvalued. And that's how we feel here with the 49ers team. They feel like they're just like last week. Same kind of feeling we had last week with them, and it obviously burned us against the Raiders where if we had known, like Chad said, the Raiders had Four turnovers start the second half. Yes, totally would have been out. We would have stayed away 100%. Same thing with Dallas. If Dak lays an egg, we get burned here. I never saw that coming, honestly. This feels like exactly the type of match where Dak should do well, especially pushing the ball downfield. Now, we don't know if Pickens is going to play, but if Pickens comes back and Joey Porter gets cleared, I really do think this will be three and a half by kickoff at most shops. Those two guys coming back, I think, is all that's going to be partial to the reason this line will move down.
00:50:35
Speaker 1: Last game we got to talk about. Sunday Night Football. Pittsburgh's visiting Cincinnati. The line is still three and a half. This was officially Chad's choice. I don't see any reason why we're not going to continue to be in on this Steelers team. Surprised the number's still hanging around at three and a half. Given the fact that there's so much enthusiasm for the Bengals, Joe Burrow is officially now the leader in the clubhouse for MVP. But it's hard not to be impressed with how well coached the Steelers team is, both defensively and offensively. And the Bengals have been making their hay and moving ahead in the standings and getting Joe Burrow to be the MVP's leading candidate. by destroying teams that are not nearly as good on either side of the ball as the Pittsburgh Steelers. So why is this line not moved yet? Why, why is it still a three and a half?
00:51:49
Speaker 2: Like, why are there pros on the Bengals side as well?
00:51:51
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I expected this line to get, to get to three more quickly and it hasn't gotten there and that would make me happier.
00:52:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like I'm going to be at the sports book. I'm going to be like that, uh, Did you see that video of that guy, Hegstaff, getting yelled at by that military guy yesterday or no?
00:52:07
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw that.
00:52:08
Speaker 2: I feel like that's going to be me in the sports book being like, you know what you're supposed to do here. You're supposed to take. But we didn't even say it. Veterans Day was yesterday. God bless America. God bless our military. We love you guys. Anyone listening to us abroad, thank you so much for everything you do. And we are so appreciative of everything you guys do for our country, us civilians.
00:52:27
Speaker 1: Well said.
00:52:28
Speaker 2: Well said. That's why I feel like I'm going to be in the sports book, though. I'm going to be yelling at guys when they go up to the window and they're bending the bangles. It's like, you are not supposed to be doing that decorum. You're supposed to respect the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like, this is who we back. If this was Tomlin, that was my whole point with you. If this was Tomlin, you would have been all over this. This is a Tomlin spot with his Pittsburgh team. This was always a spot we would always play with them where it's like you have them as a dog in the division off rest. Like, they're coming off a bye week facing a team off an international game. So, I'm like you. I don't get this one. I also don't get the public sentiment where they're hammering this Bengals team where, you know, as much love as, like, we are giving to Joe Burrow. Like, we are, you know. Joe Burrow being the MVP, I don't want to diminish it, but let's be honest here. It's... I gave up that record. He's beating up bad teams, which, A, respect to him. We want guys to do that. Pittsburgh is not a bad team. They have a good defense. When Rodgers, sometimes it's only for a half. When Rodgers is in his groove, this is a very competitive, high-scoring offense. Before their bye week, they blew out Cleveland. They beat Cleveland 27-6, something like that. This is a team that they're not just eking out these wins. They've been really competitive this year in this Pittsburgh team. It's another one where I don't really get it where even when you go through the head-to-head record when they play each other every year, obviously this is what Tomlin was coaching, when they had Mason Rudolph for the quarterback position and it was Joe Burrow playing, it was always like a three-point game. It was always highly competitive, and it's just because Pittsburgh, they always have this defense, the highest-paid defense in all of football. They have all these gamers defensively that tend to give Joe Burrow problems. The first time they played this year were you know, we got burned, obviously. Joe Burrow was leading them down the field to hopefully win that game for Cincinnati. Got strip-sacked, right? Like, kind of stupid turnover. That was the ballgame. They lost by three. It's the same thing here, where it's like, me and you might lose, Chad. I don't think we're going to lose by more than a field goal. Like, to me, this feels like a very, very highly competitive game that should be very close, where Pittsburgh could easily win this game as well, once again. They have everything working in their way. They have the rest, and they have a team that matches up well on that defensive line. Like, this is... We talked about with this Bengals team, the offensive line has been much better, and you've seen it now where, you know, they played against Atlanta, which Atlanta does have a pretty good pass rush, but they could not get to them in that
second half. Joe lit them up. Tennessee, you threw three really bad picks, but you saw without, you know, Jeffrey Simmons pushing up the middle or whatever it was, it was just Joe, other than those three picks, he was able to put up 43 points against that Tennessee team. Like, when he has time... He obviously can light up teams. We don't think he'll have time here against his Pittsburgh team. So this is just like a lot of these dogs this week. Immediately my eyes went right to it when it popped on the board. I'm like you where I'd obviously feel better if this had gone to three. We knew the pros would be with us, but I'm not shocked to see the pros on the Bengals side just because they've been playing at such a high level and they have so much faith right now in Joe Burrell and this offense. But I am so shocked as just the general public being so confident in this Bengals team where Why don't they believe in Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh has been good to them. Like if you've just been randomly backing Pittsburgh, they cover for you against Cleveland. They cover for you against New Orleans and they cover against Tampa and they cover against the Colts. So they've covered four straight games. So maybe we're buying at the peak of the Pittsburgh. Maybe that's the part we're missing here, but I disagree.
00:56:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:56:02
Speaker 2: I still think they're being undervalued by the general public.
00:56:05
Speaker 1: I do too. I feel like people are not recognizing the, in-season adjustments that have been made. I think people's perception of the Steelers is still early in the year, Aaron Rodgers struggling, not being able to throw the ball downfield, this defense not playing as well as it could have. There was a primetime game where you had Aaron Rodgers yelling at Mike McCarthy. And then in the next shot, you had TJ Watt yelling at Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator. But I think those are the images people have of this team, and it's not the reality of what we've seen. They're just smart. The value of the veterans is that they're smart players. And so the mistakes are limited on this team. So, yeah, I'm not uncomfortable backing this one at all.
00:56:51
Speaker 2: And if you want to wait for the four, I totally get it. Because like I've talked about, this is every– when I go to the sports books on Sunday morning, after a week like the public just had, it's going to be a line out the door. So this is another game where I just– I think the public, they like the Bengals so much they're going to keep betting it. If the Bucs have a bad day again come Sunday, this will easily– I mean, just like the Bucs. The Bucs got up to plus 6.5, plus 7, even though at one point they got all the way down to minus– plus 5.5, right, against the Bears. So much money came in because they had won all day. They bumped it all the way up to 7.5, up to 7. You might be able to get the same here with Pittsburgh, like the– What I'm looking at right now, the splits, it's just so much money on the Bengals. Like you could easily– I mean obviously the pros like me are holding their resistance on this Pittsburgh side. But would it not be shocking if we could see this number get up to plus four? All right.
00:57:44
Speaker 1: I think if we were narrowing it down right now, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Dallas would definitely be in. I think we'll have some.
00:57:55
Speaker 2: Other– Jags and Green Bay potentially are going to be in. We have a lot of favorites hanging on the outside.
00:58:02
Speaker 1: Jags and Green Bay are both on the list for sure. For our underdog, Ron Robin. I'm looking at Dallas. I'm looking at Pittsburgh. I'm looking in Atlanta. I'm not afraid to put Cleveland in there.
00:58:23
Speaker 2: I know. We're both a little weary about it right now. Hopefully, I'll have more confidence come Sunday, but I won't lie. That stat you get from Killer Stats does scare the shit out of me.
00:58:31
Speaker 1: Killer Sports, yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker 2: That's literally a 70% hit rate. That's pretty good. Yeah.
00:58:36
Speaker 1: And it's not like we have a consensus from the professional community either.
00:58:39
Speaker 2: No, it's split. Yeah.
00:58:41
Speaker 1: Should we stick with Dallas, Pittsburgh, Atlanta?
00:58:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
00:58:47
Speaker 1: What about our favorites, Ron Robin? Want to take the Jags down to Two and a half? Jags down to two and a half?
00:58:55
Speaker 2: Let's leave the value. Let's leave some meat on that bone. Let's take him down to five and a half. Just get him under six because we've seen so many stupid misstructure points. I'm always– used to be six and a half. Now we have to do five and a half because kickers– I don't know what, what's happened, but yeah.
00:59:09
Speaker 1: Five and a half for the Jags, Green Bay minus three. Yeah.
00:59:13
Speaker 2: I love it. And well, is this, is this our money line around Robin? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry.
00:59:22
Speaker 1: Green Bay.
00:59:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's, it's super cheap, but don't we have to do Colts money line? I know people hate it so much, but I keep saying it. I just can't imagine Miami beating the Colts with their back-to-corner. It's not going to happen. Both teams are terrible, we know. We've already missed the best number on the Colts. At least we're getting the money line in there and some type of bets. If people really want to get big with those favorites, you could do Seattle's money line. You could do Rams' money line. The Rams might be playing a third-string quarterback for Arizona. Matt Mitchell's Buffalo Bills. I do think Josh Allen... as much as they love and won that game, he's, to me, he's raging. Like this is the type of game he takes out all that rage from the Vikings they just put on this Jets team.
01:00:06
Speaker 3: He has a sense of freshness and bravado, which men are always eager to feel and to which they often respond.
01:00:13
Speaker 2: One of the worst defenses we've
seen this year, right? This Jets defense can't stop anything. So that's another one that jumps out if you want to throw in a team. You take them down two and a half, you can do that easily with the Bills this week.
01:00:24
Speaker 1: Give me your biggest bets right now. Pull up those pants and be a man.
01:00:29
Speaker 2: I think people can probably tell, like, that Dallas game, big bets. Pittsburgh, big bet. Obviously took a big position on Seattle. You mean you joked about that was a big miss by me not giving up Fernando Mendoza 20-1 rookie, even though we knew Kirk was probably going to be traded. That was probably my biggest regret from Tuesday's show, not giving up Fernando Mendoza. But, yeah, Seattle, big, big money. As long as they win and cover under six, that'll be a nice payday for me. Colts, obviously, minus two and a half would be a nice payday. Come Sunday, I could see Green Bay, especially if they dip to two and a half, be my bigger bets. And if I get totally clear, Jared Goff's all good. Might take a big position, 930 in the morning on that Lions team. I just really love that match for them as well.
01:01:13
Speaker 1: I do too. I'm starting to like this Lions team a lot. I think they're sneaky better than people are giving them credit for. Similar to the Steelers, I think the impression is how bad their defense was early in the year. And we talked about this on Tuesday. They're just getting better. They're blitzing less. They're improving so much more since Brian Bratch came back. In every metric, they are flipping the script. Where they were worst in the league, they're now top 10 in the league. So I think it's an impressive team, especially in the running game. Simon, in sharp versus square... I'm six and three. You're seven and two. But you have won six straight weeks. So you get to go first.
01:02:02
Speaker 2: And let the record roll. Technically, it's seven straight because I did give it to Atlanta. But I was such a gentleman. I took them out just because not enough people would hear that show when Atlanta beat Green Bay. I don't know what to do. I try to do a favorite every week. And this week's a little tougher with the favorites because so much line's moved.
01:02:22
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about Green Bay.
01:02:24
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm trying to decide if I want to do them or the Lions. Because obviously the Lions is a better number. Sheesh. I can't believe I'm going to go international. No, no, no. Pull me back in. I'm going to do Green Bay minus three.
01:02:45
Speaker 1: Wow.
01:02:46
Speaker 2: The international part is scaring me off a little bit.
01:02:49
Speaker 1: Wow. I was so ready to write down that I'm taking Green Bay and I was feeling good. I'm like, thank freaking God. He's going to take Detroit on this and I get to take Green Bay.
01:03:02
Speaker 2: Now you got to take, now you got to take the Lions.
01:03:04
Speaker 1: I got to take the Lions.
01:03:06
Speaker 2: No, you can take it wherever you want.
01:03:07
Speaker 1: Part of me, well, look, I came down to the Lions, but also.
01:03:11
Speaker 2: Take the Jags, stand on business.
01:03:13
Speaker 1: Well, or take the Panthers. That's really standing on business.
01:03:17
Speaker 2: That'd be crazy.
01:03:19
Speaker 1: That is crazy.
01:03:19
Speaker 2: Oh, God.
01:03:24
Speaker 1: All right. You know what? Give me the lines. Give me the lines minus two and a half.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: There you go.
01:03:36
Speaker 1: Our Discord grouper of the week this week.
01:03:41
Speaker 2: Buy my book. Buy my book. Buy my book.
01:03:47
Speaker 1: The Discord grouper of the week. is going to be a teaser, six point teaser. Buffalo down to minus one and a half and Seattle down to minus and a half. So that is our six point teaser. Go pre-order the book, chadmillman.com. If the Bills, the Chiefs or the Bears win the Super Bowl, which is looking more and more like a possibility, You're getting refunded your entire purchase price. Plus, you get a bonus chapter and you get an invite to the Discord, chadmillman.com.
01:04:24
Speaker 2: Pre-order.
01:04:26
Speaker 1: I think that covers it, buddy. Did I miss anything?
01:04:31
Speaker 2: No. I mean, only other thing I'd say, one week from today, Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out. Other than that, we've covered all the news.
01:04:38
Speaker 1: That is, we got it all. We've run the gamut from the Secretary of War. To Grand Theft Auto.
01:04:46
Speaker 2: That was another message I got. How happy is Kyler Murray that Kirk came in? Kyler's like, oh my God, now I get to just play.
01:04:51
Speaker 1: Grand Theft Auto. Now I get to just spend all my time playing GTA.
01:04:53
Speaker 2: I don't got to worry about looking at the film anymore, studying the playbook. I am out the door. As soon as practice ends, I am out the door.
01:05:00
Speaker 1: Getting on my video game. All right. We'll be back on Sunday morning with our final NFL bets. We'll give out our official five picks for the free $ 25, 000 Pick'Em contest. This has been Sharper Square. presented by Polymarket. We're part of the Volume Podcast Network. Watch or listen on YouTube at Sharper Square. Like this video, subscribe to the channel, download us from Spotify, Apple Pods, wherever you get your pods, rate, review, subscribe, leave us five stars, say whatever you want. Feedback is a gift until Sunday, 11 a.m. Eastern. Love you.
01:05:31
Speaker 3: There are depictions of the field goal uprights on the scoreboard. That is a foul for unsportsmanlike conduct against Miami.
01:05:42
Speaker 1: Methodist is to the goal.
01:05:44
Speaker 2: Wow.
01:05:46
Speaker 3: So on the video board, they had pictures of like four field goal posts.