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Hi, everyone. Welcome back to Retro Rewatch.
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As you all know, because of course all of you are long-time listeners,
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the show where Patrice Brendamore and I, Jeff Gannon... Hi, everyone.
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We talk about the shows that she has seen that I have not. I'm seeing for the first time.
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And we are still doing Stargate SG-1.
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And we are all the way up to Season 5, Episode 6, Rite of Passage. Patrice, how are you?
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I'm doing well. I'm doing really well. It's nice. Nice outside.
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I loved watching this episode for some reason.
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And I'd love more talking to you about it, because that's what it's all about right now.
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I get to watch a good episode and then talk with a really, really good friend about it.
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Even if it's a bad one like last time.
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I was about to say that.
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Oh, not bad, just stupid, as I said.
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Okay, that one was stupid. There have been bad episodes.
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That's true.
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Like Emancipation.
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We've done, yeah, we just talked about it in the pre-show, yes. Like Emancipation.
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We checked. The only zero I gave a show an episode. So far.
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And I have not given any episode a zero.
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Yes.
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But there's still plenty of episodes to watch before we get to the end of season 10.
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So it's possible there's a zero in the future. Let's hope not.
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Yes.
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It would be difficult to be worse than Emancipation.
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Yeah, difficult, but not impossible.
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No, and they did try a couple times.
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They did try a couple times, yes.
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Yeah. Patrice, you always have all the awesome behind-the-scenes info.
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I would love to hear that.
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Okay, sure, sure, sure. So let's start with the general production notes, as always.
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Air date for this episode was August 3rd, 2001, about a month until 9-11,
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right? It's about a month on showtime.
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So we're still in the pre-9-11 time, but it's coming up. I promised you that.
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And May 22nd, 2002, in Germany on RTL2, as always.
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I told you last time already, the German title is not very spoilery this time.
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It's literally just the same.
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It's Das Übergangsritual, the Rite of Passage. So, eh, same.
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same same not very interesting as that maybe they just fired the person who
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is coming up with stupid titles and so now they just translate i don't know,
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we'll see we'll see if it's very possible if it ever deviates again um maybe
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we'll drop that if it's the same every time we'll see um imdb rating 6.8 out of 10 um yeah,
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as as little as that really tells you because as we've seen last time.
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People liked the episode and we thought it was stupid and other episodes we
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really enjoyed and people gave it bad ratings. It just doesn't make sense.
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Written by Heather E. Ash and this is the last episode that she has written,
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on this show. I think it's in total, I want to say five.
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Let me see. It's the final credit. I think it's the fifth credit,
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if I remember correctly.
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She is also overall All 214 episodes and two made-for-DVD movies.
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One of only two women ever having had full writing credit on Stargate SG-1.
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The other one, of course, being, since we talked about Emancipation, Catherine Powers.
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Okay. Yes. So, just to that you know.
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Directed by Peter DeLuise, of course, this time around.
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We've settled on our directors mostly. he he does a lot he does a good job.
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Uh he's he's deeply involved with the series at.
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This point he he is and he has a cameo this time and i'll tell you about it when we get to that,
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oh excellent and this time we actually see him on screen it's not just like
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what was it last time the candles the candles spelling out his his initial stuff
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like that no this time he's actually on screen,
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So, guest stars. We have, of course, our lovely Terrell Rothery as Dr.
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Fraser. Yay, she's back.
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Last seen in episode four, The Fifth Man. So, not that long ago.
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Then we have Jacqueline Samuda as Niriti, of course. Last seen in season three,
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episode three, Fair Game.
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I think it was a negotiation topic.
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in the negotiation episode.
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So she's back. And, well, I mean, she didn't die this time, so my guess is we'll see her again.
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That's my assumption, too.
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Yes. I did not write it down that this is the last episode, so I would assume so.
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Then we have Richard the Clerk, last seen as Joe in Season 2,
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Episode 19, One False Step.
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And then we have the lovely Karen von Blankenstein Frankenstein as nurse,
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again, seen in the fifth man as nurse.
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She comes in, tells Dr. Frazier the temperature. So, get the credit. Good for her.
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So, okay, the one person you didn't mention is...
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There's one more.
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Okay, then I'll be quiet.
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There's a reason for that. I left her for last, even though it's important.
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So, we have a new person as Cassandra.
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It's Colleen Renneson as Cassandra. She actually is a,
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returning actress because she played Allie in Season 2, Episode 10,
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Bane, which I think was the girl with the water pistol.
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Oh, okay.
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I would have to look it up. I actually didn't, but I think it was her.
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So there is a story for that.
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Why that happened? Why did they recast her? Because the original Cassandra was
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not the Cassandra we see this time.
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Right.
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So Katie Stewart is the actress who played Cassandra before.
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Stewart was simply unavailable this time because she was filming X2,
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X-Men United at the time.
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So she couldn't be released for this episode, even a couple days, right?
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I mean, usually when they're in the middle of a big production,
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they can just stop and that she can do her character on the show.
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And also Stargate usually can't stop and wait and just shoot it later because
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that might take too long and they don't have that much runway.
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So, yeah, they had to recast.
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I think they did a good job recasting her.
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She works as Cassandra.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Works very well. So that's why I mentioned your last. I wanted to build up for that. Okay. Yes.
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Which means we've already talked about most of the behind the scenes stuff.
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The only thing I can mention is that Terrell Rothery had previously worked with
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Colleen Rendison on Mr. Rice's Secret in 1999, playing mother and daughter.
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So they knew each other. So again, playing mother and daughter.
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The film starred David Bowie and was written by a future fringe showrunner J.H. Wyman.
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Just a little side tidbit. I already mentioned that she was Ali and Bane so,
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different character than Cassandra.
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Not much more about this right? It's mostly, I think with the exception of that
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one little scene, it's mostly standing sets.
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They go off planet but it's barely there. They went to the forest probably for
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like three hours just to shoot walking up to a tree and then they were like, okay, let's go back.
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yeah.
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You know and they probably filmed it just along with another one of their.
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Outdoor probably here okay let's just yeah let's do exactly exactly i mean last
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time they were like last time they were in a forest so it might have been that
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they just tacked it on at the end,
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that it's a tiny scene right they walk up they have the little campfire and
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then rings and done like and then we don't see anything on the planet anymore and it's a.
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Super tight shot.
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So it's very possible the camera is.
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Sitting on the pavement in the.
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Parking lot it could be, yes, it's entirely possible so as I said,
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that was it and other than that, it was mostly the inside was for sure a studio set,
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the lab and the rest is standing sets so it's not a complicated episode from
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that perspective the set was a new design so we hadn't seen that before so,
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I knew there were probably some elements that they were used from other sets
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before yeah I have said a couple other little things but not too much in the for later section.
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Okay. That sounds good. Then I guess it's time to hop in to the episode.
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Yes.
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Okay, so it starts with...
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It starts with a birthday cake.
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Thank you, birthday cake.
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Yes.
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And it's for Cassandra because it's her birthday.
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Yeah. Did you count the candles?
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I did not.
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Yeah, you should have. There is a little thing that, well, was interesting.
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She's, according to, like,
let's say, according to the timeline,
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she should be 16. And that kind of would make more sense from, like, everything.
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But there's only 14 candles on the cake.
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So, it's like either someone in the production site just effed up and thought
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14 looked better than 16, or just forgot, like, ah, 14 is fine,
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it's good enough. Or they just messed up the time.
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How many candles do we have? 14, put them on.
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Yeah, or they just messed up and didn't remember that she's supposed to be 16,
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because she was 12 four years ago.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay.
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Yeah. So, nope, I did not count the candles. The story makes more sense if she's 16.
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yeah she's also the actress looks a little bit older i mean she was probably
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18 older because she looks a little bit older yeah there's so many there's so
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many things where i'm like that's not a 14 year old oh yeah oh absolutely not a 14 year old um.
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Okay before i even get into what's happening yeah one thing that i liked with
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this scene is that even though sam and janet are not a couple.
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Yes.
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I like this whole thing with Cassandra having two moms.
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Yes, I love that. Yes, I think it works really well. Both are great.
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It's also very clear that Frasier is the, let's say, primary mom,
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right? Because Cassandra's off-world quite a lot.
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So that kind of makes sense that she can't be there full-time.
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But I get the sense that she is quite involved as much as she can.
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but she's not the she's not the fun aunt that comes by whatever twice a year or once a year that's it,
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like she seems to I mean they have later we learn they have like every second
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when she's on planet every second Saturday they have a chess game stuff like that so,
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yeah.
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Yeah so anyhow I just.
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Really enjoyed that dynamic by the way other thing this is the only time we see Frasier's house,
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We never go back to that. This is Frasier's house. I mean, for sure it's not,
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it's not Terrell Rothery's house.
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Right, right.
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But this is the only time in the show we see that.
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Just that. Huh. Okay.
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Now we've seen most people's houses. Well, except for Teal, because he doesn't have one.
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Yeah, well, his house is a standing set. It's called Stargate Command.
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Well, yeah, I know his actual house burnt down.
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That's true. Yeah.
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Yes.
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We've seen that one, but it's burnt down. Yes. Actually, then we've seen actually
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all of them because we've seen Ketilk's house as well.
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Yeah. Okay. You're right. Yeah.
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Back to the cake. So we get cake.
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And yeah, so Cassandra has a birthday cake, but Cassandra is being straight up teenager.
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Which I will say is straight up the most believable part of this episode.
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Yes. I mean, it's a sci-fi show. There's all kinds of not believable things happening.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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They're making comments.
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Yeah, she doesn't want to spend her birthday with her moms.
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That's embarrassing and all that kid stuff and all of that.
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She wants to spend it with her friends.
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Yeah, and she has a boyfriend and they want to meet him and she doesn't want that.
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Yeah, Sam baked and then bought a cake. It's also like that interaction.
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like fraser says sam baked and then cassie being a teenager he's like bought,
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and then and then fraser's like okay brought a cake brought a cake,
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and cassandra ends.
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Up storming off.
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Because yeah.
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You know she's a teenager.
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And fraser's like you You are.
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That child is going to eat a piece of cake. So help me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there was like, she mentions that she hasn't been
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feeling, like she's basically being mom. She's like, well, I mean,
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you haven't been feeling well, so maybe you can't go out at all.
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So being like, hey, do at least the minimum we ask you to, and then you can
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go with your friends. If not, then you will not be with your friends.
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So you got only that choice, basically.
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I like that. It's very, very, very mom, right?
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Yeah, totally believable.
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Yeah. Carter wants to meet Cassandra's boyfriend, by the way.
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She's like,
bring him in. I want to meet him.
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And she really, she's not feeling that.
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No.
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But anyhow, so she goes out to the porch, front porch, where her boyfriend is waiting. Yeah.
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And she's angry, and she tells him, you know, my mom won't let me go out.
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Yeah, go without me.
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And so they have a nice little exchange, and he gives her a birthday present.
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Yeah, that was really cute.
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Yeah, and it's a prism And it's because,
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She had commented In school about how she thought The prisms that he was Using
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for some project Were very pretty So he got her one And,
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She uses it.
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There's like a light above them And she uses it to break the light apart Onto
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him You know, it's kind of romantic I liked it, it's a really nice scene.
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And then they.
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Kiss Or a teenager, of course But then they kiss I mean, wow, what a kiss.
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It felt like a very grown-up kiss happening Not a teenager kiss Both.
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Of them are grown-ups.
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That's true Yeah And then all of a sudden the light explodes And Cassie goes
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kind of rigid And just falls over backwards unconscious.
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Yeah Yeah And he calls the moms, basically.
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Mm-hmm.
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And they're open up. Yeah.
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And, uh, so they, so they ask what happened. He tells them and,
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uh, and Frazier's like, yeah, I got to get her to the, the infirmary and she's
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got a temperature and something's really wrong.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, yeah. So, wow.
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I guess that's quite a kiss. Yeah. That was quite a kiss.
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I think a lot of, a lot of teenage girls would like to have a kiss like that
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where like literally the lights blow out and you fall, you like, you end up unconscious.
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Knocked you off your feet.
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Knocked you off your feet. The kiss was that good, right? He must be a phenomenal kisser.
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It's apparently.
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Yeah. I have to say, he's cute, right? I mean, for a teenage boy, right?
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It's like, I can see that. Like, the casting was really done well.
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Like, it's believable, the two together.
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Yeah. Yeah. So, I take it you liked the intro, just based on what you've been saying.
00:18:02.312 --> 00:18:07.392
Yeah, it's fun. We get to see a little bit behind the scenes of Frasier and
00:18:07.392 --> 00:18:10.527
Carter, which we knew are good friends. That was very clear.
00:18:11.432 --> 00:18:17.551
We know that Frasier basically took on the mom role and Carter from the get-go basically as well,
00:18:18.392 --> 00:18:26.762
but that Carter is not in a position to be like a full-time mom because she
00:18:26.762 --> 00:18:31.162
spends time off-world for probably days, weeks, sometimes.
00:18:31.162 --> 00:18:34.117
A lot, right? She spends a lot of time off-world.
00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.803
So it's hard to have a home life if I give you that.
00:18:39.289 --> 00:18:44.072
So yeah, I like that. And then the whole, I mean, very typical teenage story.
00:18:44.492 --> 00:18:49.852
This is kind of what you would expect, but also I think realistic, right?
00:18:50.510 --> 00:18:52.931
This is what happens.
00:18:54.632 --> 00:18:59.386
Maybe not the lights exploding, but you wish it was.
00:19:00.547 --> 00:19:01.255
Yeah.
00:19:03.782 --> 00:19:07.014
It might feel like it sometimes. Just think if it's good.
00:19:07.902 --> 00:19:12.342
Yeah. So, yeah, I enjoyed it. And,
00:19:15.524 --> 00:19:22.192
it was very clear that we were going to be doing a Cassandra and Frasier-heavy
00:19:22.192 --> 00:19:27.962
episode by the time we got to the end of the—well, I mean, when we saw them
00:19:27.962 --> 00:19:29.890
at the beginning, it was like, okay.
00:19:30.105 --> 00:19:34.046
But by the time we get to the end of the teaser, it was like, yeah, oh, absolutely.
00:19:34.546 --> 00:19:40.176
Yeah. I just want to read your comments that you texted me. You said OMG, Cassandra.
00:19:40.618 --> 00:19:44.462
so you were pretty surprised and happy about that I guess that boy can really
00:19:44.462 --> 00:19:47.972
kiss since Cassandra passed out and then you said this is an emo Cassandra episode
00:19:47.972 --> 00:19:52.712
and she has two moms, Sam and Janet so that was really good the other stuff
00:19:52.712 --> 00:19:54.242
I'll not read because we'll get to that,
00:19:55.113 --> 00:19:59.327
but I like that I liked your commentary there you were absolutely right.
00:20:00.588 --> 00:20:04.932
Yeah, which, when we talk about my predictions, we can laugh about,
00:20:07.392 --> 00:20:11.202
how I could be so wrong and yet totally on the right track.
00:20:11.202 --> 00:20:12.320
Yes, exactly.
00:20:13.219 --> 00:20:19.518
Yeah. All right. So, when we come back from the opening credits,
00:20:21.692 --> 00:20:28.892
we're in the infirmary. Cassandra, she's there in the infirmary. and.
00:20:30.963 --> 00:20:34.112
Jack comes in to check up on them to on.
00:20:34.112 --> 00:20:34.974
Sam and.
00:20:35.125 --> 00:20:38.121
Cassie mostly on Sam but also Cassie.
00:20:40.032 --> 00:20:47.712
But you know Jack is the kind of guy that he genuinely cares even
though sometimes he puts on that,
00:20:50.652 --> 00:20:58.442
facade of indifference yeah exactly but he's the softy on the inside and so I.
00:20:58.442 --> 00:21:00.296
Think he said as much at some point.
00:21:01.672 --> 00:21:10.412
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, like, even in the last episode, he talks about how he uses jokes to— Yeah.
00:21:11.395 --> 00:21:13.802
Deflect from his heroism. Yes, exactly.
00:21:13.802 --> 00:21:14.632
Yeah. Yes.
00:21:15.012 --> 00:21:16.212
Yes. Yes.
00:21:17.455 --> 00:21:25.674
All right. So, Jack is used as the tool for us to get some exposition about Cassandra's status.
00:21:26.167 --> 00:21:30.126
Yeah. She has a fever. It isn't coming down. She has a retrovirus.
00:21:30.312 --> 00:21:31.479
They don't know what it is.
00:21:32.252 --> 00:21:35.136
And she's emitting this electromagnetic field.
00:21:35.403 --> 00:21:41.222
Yeah. By the way, retrovirus. Frazier, this time and then also later on,
00:21:41.222 --> 00:21:46.589
claims that the retrovirus rewrites an individual's DNA in order to replicate.
00:21:47.466 --> 00:21:49.376
That is, in fact, not correct. Right.
00:21:51.779 --> 00:21:55.994
Retroviruses make DNA copies of their own RNA genomes to replicate,
00:21:55.994 --> 00:21:57.862
but do not change the host's DNA.
00:21:59.331 --> 00:21:59.724
Oh.
00:22:00.266 --> 00:22:06.013
So this is scientifically not correct. This is regarded as a goof,
00:22:06.135 --> 00:22:07.650
a factual error in this case.
00:22:07.894 --> 00:22:08.294
All right.
00:22:08.294 --> 00:22:09.234
And she claims that twice.
00:22:09.234 --> 00:22:10.128
That's a legit proof.
00:22:10.442 --> 00:22:14.476
Which I mean for but I think it's a goof that,
00:22:16.584 --> 00:22:25.023
I would say is within the realms of a writer playing fast and loose with something for the sake of a story,
00:22:26.399 --> 00:22:30.224
right it's science fiction and this is maybe a fiction part but it's okay but
00:22:30.224 --> 00:22:33.984
I just wanted to mention that it's not that people don't think it's real but
00:22:34.324 --> 00:22:38.374
I think it's consistent with the story they want to tell,
00:22:39.976 --> 00:22:41.294
So, it's okay.
00:22:43.721 --> 00:22:50.652
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't one of those things that I even realized in the moment.
00:22:51.116 --> 00:22:54.224
So, clearly, it's not a problem for the story.
00:22:54.224 --> 00:23:02.084
Yeah, as I said, sometimes the writer has to take some liberty to tell the story.
00:23:02.084 --> 00:23:04.410
And I think in this case, that's exactly what they did.
00:23:06.824 --> 00:23:07.564
Yeah, cool.
00:23:07.564 --> 00:23:10.674
Yeah, Sam needs to get tested as well, she says, because, yeah,
00:23:10.674 --> 00:23:12.055
you know, they've been exposed.
00:23:13.193 --> 00:23:14.203
Yeah, that's true.
00:23:16.438 --> 00:23:21.365
And I believe this is where Cassandra wakes up kind of delirious,
00:23:21.916 --> 00:23:24.724
and she's talking about how she needs to go to the
forest.
00:23:24.724 --> 00:23:28.464
Yeah, she couldn't finish the harvest, she says, first, and then she has to
00:23:28.464 --> 00:23:31.820
go to the forest, she also says. Yes.
00:23:32.844 --> 00:23:37.375
Frazier also mentions she can't do an MRI because of the electromagnetic spikes. Thank you.
00:23:40.183 --> 00:23:41.880
I could see where that could be an issue.
00:23:42.385 --> 00:23:45.323
Yeah, especially for a doctor. MRI might be quite important.
00:23:47.003 --> 00:23:53.693
Yeah. Yeah. So we've gotten our pre-exposition.
00:23:53.995 --> 00:23:54.283
Yes.
00:23:56.055 --> 00:23:59.953
And this is great because I'm actually remembering, don't worry,
00:23:59.953 --> 00:24:01.803
I will totally mess up the chain of events.
00:24:02.483 --> 00:24:02.703
Yes.
00:24:03.043 --> 00:24:06.163
But this first part, I mean, it's a very logical progression.
00:24:06.163 --> 00:24:06.574
Yes.
00:24:06.783 --> 00:24:12.565
So, you know, we've gone from, we need to show Cassandra has a problem.
00:24:13.643 --> 00:24:19.582
Then we need to establish the basis, you know, the basic parts of what this problem is.
00:24:19.964 --> 00:24:24.533
Okay, now that we've done that, let's dive deeper into the whole thing because
00:24:24.533 --> 00:24:26.783
our audience has all the background that they need.
00:24:27.557 --> 00:24:29.533
So that takes us to the exposition room.
00:24:29.533 --> 00:24:32.504
Exactly. And Hammond is there and the team's, of course, there.
00:24:32.851 --> 00:24:36.817
I got a bunch of quotes here because they're quite interesting in itself.
00:24:38.041 --> 00:24:38.323
Okay.
00:24:38.783 --> 00:24:42.151
First thing, remember, so cardinal needs to be tested.
00:24:43.243 --> 00:24:48.316
Apparently, Fraser, of course, as well. They show no evidence of the retrovirus.
00:24:49.489 --> 00:24:54.329
So they think maybe she got it from the planet, which was a couple years ago.
00:24:54.922 --> 00:24:58.873
And then Fraser says the retrovirus can exist in the body for years undetected
00:24:58.873 --> 00:25:00.698
before the symptoms ever appear.
00:25:01.208 --> 00:25:04.713
and it does emerge, it starts to rewrite the individual's DNA in order to replicate.
00:25:04.713 --> 00:25:10.660
I've compared this one with every retrovisor on record and it doesn't match any of them.
00:25:11.165 --> 00:25:17.463
Again, the claim of the retrovivers rewriting things, but also she says Carter
00:25:17.463 --> 00:25:21.763
and I show no evidence of it, but she tested Kathy back in the day as well, right?
00:25:22.070 --> 00:25:24.752
So it was clearly hidden. So how does she know?
00:25:25.861 --> 00:25:28.775
It takes four years to actually materialize.
00:25:30.546 --> 00:25:30.847
Yeah.
00:25:31.451 --> 00:25:32.270
You never know.
00:25:33.471 --> 00:25:38.916
So maybe in four years we get emo episodes of Sam and Janet.
00:25:39.207 --> 00:25:40.460
Could be, yes.
00:25:42.790 --> 00:25:45.160
She's been giving Cassie antiviral
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.447
medications, but it's spread to her cerebral spinal fluid already.
00:25:51.010 --> 00:25:54.781
She's more concerned about brain damage right now, which, oh, this is bad.
00:25:55.594 --> 00:25:55.810
Mm-hmm.
00:25:56.170 --> 00:26:00.569
Yeah. So those were some quotes. And then we get something fun,
00:26:00.749 --> 00:26:03.106
because there's something I want to mention there.
00:26:04.655 --> 00:26:05.903
Remember what happened?
00:26:07.406 --> 00:26:09.548
Well, Daniel comes in with a report.
00:26:09.775 --> 00:26:15.383
Yes. And he's kind of more talking with himself. It's like he doesn't even look at the others.
00:26:16.728 --> 00:26:20.826
Yeah. Yeah. And I did catch the cameo.
00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:22.863
You did catch the cameo. Okay, good.
00:26:23.323 --> 00:26:25.543
He hands off the documents he has.
00:26:25.543 --> 00:26:29.893
No, I think it's a tape. It's not the documents. He keeps the documents in his
00:26:29.893 --> 00:26:31.025
hand. He hands off the tape.
00:26:31.565 --> 00:26:32.843
Oh, hands off the tape. Okay.
00:26:32.843 --> 00:26:33.183
Yes.
00:26:33.183 --> 00:26:40.255
Yeah. Yeah, and the soldier he hands it to is Peter DeLuise.
00:26:40.395 --> 00:26:41.703
Correct, yes.
00:26:41.703 --> 00:26:43.373
I totally recognize this.
00:26:43.373 --> 00:26:49.265
He was front and center on screen, like sitting at his desk in the exposition room.
00:26:50.106 --> 00:26:53.862
I don't remember there ever being a desk, but I guess they put it there for him.
00:26:55.325 --> 00:26:57.183
I've seen a desk in there occasionally.
00:26:57.183 --> 00:27:00.904
Ah, okay, so maybe it's always been there, and I just missed it, yeah. Okay.
00:27:01.008 --> 00:27:06.819
Yeah, I have a feeling it's one of those set pieces that's there when they need it for the episode.
00:27:07.074 --> 00:27:07.573
Sure, sure.
00:27:07.573 --> 00:27:10.663
And then the rest of the time it's out, which probably gives them more room for cameras and stuff.
00:27:10.663 --> 00:27:13.824
Yeah, I mean, that makes sense, as I said. I just don't remember seeing it there. Yes.
00:27:15.061 --> 00:27:19.683
Yeah. So he has gotten a report. He has reviewed the reports from SG-7 from
00:27:19.683 --> 00:27:24.848
P8X987. That was the planet Cassandra was on, just as my aside.
00:27:26.108 --> 00:27:26.648
Mm-hmm.
00:27:27.031 --> 00:27:29.893
Yeah. So he says, in the three months on Cassandra's planet,
00:27:29.893 --> 00:27:36.388
S.G. Zyman witnessed two instances of high fever and hallucination in teenagers Cassandra's age.
00:27:37.178 --> 00:27:41.671
The villagers called it mind fire, and I found some digital video footage.
00:27:42.844 --> 00:27:43.616
And he shows it.
00:27:44.975 --> 00:27:50.774
Yeah, and it's a teenage girl laying on the ground having seizures.
00:27:51.001 --> 00:27:57.019
Correct, yes. SG7 offered medicine, but the village elders believed that these
00:27:57.019 --> 00:28:00.968
children were
touched by the gods and that interfering would tempt retribution.
00:28:01.409 --> 00:28:06.163
And they were sent alone into a forest near the village, and after several days they came back cured.
00:28:06.755 --> 00:28:11.009
SG7 tried to find out, but the elders insisted the child had to make the journey
00:28:11.009 --> 00:28:14.330
alone as some sort of religious rite.
00:28:16.030 --> 00:28:21.029
that was his exposition it's probably also the only thing he ever says in this
00:28:21.029 --> 00:28:23.705
episode as far as I remember, more or less,
00:28:27.356 --> 00:28:32.151
don't think there's much more I mean, no, there's a scene in the lab later where he has some lines,
00:28:34.502 --> 00:28:37.989
but it's yeah oh yeah.
00:28:37.989 --> 00:28:44.029
That's right yes, he's part of the moral dilemma debate later on yes,
00:28:44.029 --> 00:28:46.344
exactly Yeah, that's right.
00:28:49.438 --> 00:28:53.432
So, anyhow, they decide that they should go back to the planet.
00:28:53.716 --> 00:28:57.728
Yeah, there's a brief discussion whether it's poisoned, right?
00:28:59.823 --> 00:29:04.502
Yeah, and Sam's like, yeah, maybe not. You know, it's been four years. Let's send a MALP.
00:29:04.746 --> 00:29:07.431
Let's send a MALP. We never see the MALP, by the way.
00:29:08.697 --> 00:29:13.119
No, we don't. But we presume that they sent it and it worked because they go back to the planet.
00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:16.499
The next thing we see is SGC actually going.
00:29:19.663 --> 00:29:25.240
Yeah, and so they're there on the planet, and then very quickly they're in the
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.631
forest in the close, tight scene.
00:29:28.939 --> 00:29:31.174
Yeah, and there's a glowing handprint on a tree.
00:29:32.219 --> 00:29:32.730
Yeah.
00:29:35.086 --> 00:29:39.249
And so, of course, Daniel touches it.
00:29:39.411 --> 00:29:43.562
Yeah, first, it's really funny. Teal gets another line, a fire burned here.
00:29:45.410 --> 00:29:49.071
I'm like, great. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah.
00:29:49.506 --> 00:29:54.034
Yeah. So push the button, and then the fire lights up.
00:29:54.307 --> 00:29:54.550
Yeah.
00:29:55.770 --> 00:30:00.826
And they're standing there looking at it, and Jack is standing with Teal'c.
00:30:01.215 --> 00:30:01.563
Yeah.
00:30:01.830 --> 00:30:06.148
And they get ringed into a ghouled room.
00:30:06.496 --> 00:30:09.840
Yeah. And Teal'c, like he says, is near Tease, of course.
00:30:10.977 --> 00:30:12.173
Of course, because...
00:30:12.910 --> 00:30:13.570
He has to say something.
00:30:13.570 --> 00:30:16.840
Okay, this is how sad it is.
00:30:17.090 --> 00:30:25.140
Like, the lines that they're giving Teal'c are so throwaway that we actually
00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:27.820
forget he even has lines in an episode.
00:30:27.820 --> 00:30:31.179
Yeah, well, I know that especially for that, because now I'm,
00:30:31.306 --> 00:30:33.785
you know, since we talk about it, I'm tuned to that.
00:30:33.994 --> 00:30:36.676
I'm like, okay, what stupid line does Teal'c say this time?
00:30:38.312 --> 00:30:45.162
Basically that yeah yeah yeah he's he gets to say the lines for the slow audience
00:30:45.162 --> 00:30:50.787
members who who don't pick up right away on what's going on yeah exactly,
00:30:53.057 --> 00:30:54.682
yeah anyhow so um um,
00:30:57.402 --> 00:31:03.432
they're um they're looking around the the lab and then the rings kick on again
00:31:03.432 --> 00:31:08.522
and now it's now so now the whole team is in in the room yeah yeah and um and
00:31:08.522 --> 00:31:11.765
they find a tablet you know one of those pdas like,
00:31:13.623 --> 00:31:16.382
a google message.
00:31:16.382 --> 00:31:17.512
Pad yes exactly.
00:31:17.866 --> 00:31:19.942
And daniel's reading it and um,
00:31:22.220 --> 00:31:28.065
and he deduces oh the kids all the teenagers this is where they show up this is where they go to.
00:31:30.178 --> 00:31:32.862
And so obviously experiments are being done on them.
00:31:32.862 --> 00:31:35.692
Yeah, they're like, why would you need to cure a bunch of kids?
00:31:35.692 --> 00:31:40.105
That makes no sense, right? Because schools don't do shit like that. They don't care.
00:31:41.382 --> 00:31:48.255
Humans are disposable. Teenagers even probably more so because they're useless, right? So why?
00:31:49.302 --> 00:31:51.163
So it must be some sort of experiment.
00:31:52.302 --> 00:31:57.206
And then the writers establish the running joke for this episode,
00:31:57.537 --> 00:32:01.698
which is Daniel activating something and saying, oh, I think I did that.
00:32:02.029 --> 00:32:02.935
Yeah, exactly.
00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:04.212
Or, oh, that was me.
00:32:04.636 --> 00:32:05.611
Yeah, exactly.
00:32:07.142 --> 00:32:13.142
Because he does that and then he discovers this rack appears.
00:32:13.142 --> 00:32:15.292
Rack of glass cube sticks of some sort.
00:32:15.292 --> 00:32:19.662
Yeah, with little colored dots inside. And they're like, oh, what is this?
00:32:20.202 --> 00:32:20.642
Nobody knows.
00:32:20.642 --> 00:32:22.282
Jack's like, well, let's just take one with us.
00:32:22.282 --> 00:32:23.978
It's like, okay, sure, let's just take one.
00:32:25.568 --> 00:32:29.057
It's totally safe. It might be a bioweapon, but totally safe.
00:32:29.475 --> 00:32:33.908
But whatever. What could possibly go wrong? I mean, there's no precedent on
00:32:33.908 --> 00:32:37.418
this planet for any sort of problems like that.
00:32:37.418 --> 00:32:42.124
No, and also not an SGC for anything that goes wrong if they take something back.
00:32:43.262 --> 00:32:47.500
Right. So, yeah, so they take it back.
00:32:48.754 --> 00:32:52.411
And because the next scene, we are actually back in Stargate Command.
00:32:53.171 --> 00:32:53.398
Yes.
00:32:54.458 --> 00:32:58.048
But now I can't remember, because I know it's a Cassandra scene,
00:32:58.048 --> 00:33:01.728
I can't remember if they're running tests on her, or if this is
where she's
00:33:01.728 --> 00:33:06.918
like, hey, all y'all, I'm going to the forest and I'm getting out of here.
00:33:06.918 --> 00:33:09.328
And actually has to be restrained.
00:33:09.328 --> 00:33:14.376
The latter one. She's trying to get to the forest, and Fraser is trying to stop her, basically.
00:33:15.397 --> 00:33:20.024
Like, she talks to her, she's like, look, you're sick, and please go back.
00:33:20.658 --> 00:33:25.811
And Kathy throws out the quintessential line that every teenager uses at some point.
00:33:26.589 --> 00:33:29.628
You're not my mother, or you're the worst mother ever, or something like that,
00:33:29.628 --> 00:33:32.878
right? She says, you're not my mother, right? But there is always a variant
00:33:32.878 --> 00:33:34.374
of that, depending on the situation.
00:33:35.001 --> 00:33:40.782
Right. And she even starts referring to Dr. Frazier as Janet instead of mom.
00:33:41.003 --> 00:33:42.239
A little bit later, yes.
00:33:42.958 --> 00:33:46.558
Oh, well, okay. I'm on brand. Yeah.
00:33:47.578 --> 00:33:52.799
And Frasier says, I care about what happens to you, honey. Don't you know what you mean to me?
00:33:53.762 --> 00:33:57.128
But, of course, Teenager doesn't. She doesn't care. She doesn't.
00:33:57.128 --> 00:33:59.693
Well, she doesn't care in that situation. She does care. But,
00:33:59.873 --> 00:34:04.279
like, it's being overwritten. It's being overwritten by the other stuff.
00:34:04.824 --> 00:34:07.680
So she pushes Frasier away and tries to run.
00:34:09.498 --> 00:34:15.900
And there's guards. And they grab her. And she starts making all the lights.
00:34:16.658 --> 00:34:18.042
in the hallway explode.
00:34:19.859 --> 00:34:22.030
Yeah. But they've got her.
00:34:22.396 --> 00:34:26.947
Yeah, and then we switch to Carter because Carter is back. It's only Carter who comes back.
00:34:29.618 --> 00:34:29.903
Oh.
00:34:30.645 --> 00:34:31.562
Yeah, Sony Carter.
00:34:32.282 --> 00:34:33.783
Oh, okay, okay.
00:34:33.783 --> 00:34:38.493
Yeah, yeah. She is back to report back, which I'm like, okay,
00:34:38.493 --> 00:34:41.779
they just radio. No, Carter needed to be there. That's why.
00:34:42.818 --> 00:34:46.843
Yeah. Usually they would just radio. Hey, Jen, this is what's happening.
00:34:46.843 --> 00:34:48.786
No, Carter has to be back.
00:34:49.952 --> 00:34:55.493
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess if they wanted to send back the potential bio warfare
00:34:55.493 --> 00:34:57.126
device, someone had to take it.
00:34:57.718 --> 00:35:02.478
Yeah. yeah and we get we get another interesting scene so
00:35:02.902 --> 00:35:07.543
um frasier's dot sam like the fever seems to have peaked but their blood work
00:35:07.543 --> 00:35:11.093
says otherwise there's no antibodies no indications that our body's fighting
00:35:11.093 --> 00:35:14.158
the thing it's just more retrovivors that's bad,
00:35:15.238 --> 00:35:23.763
um and kathy has been moved to a kind of a lab some sort isolation oh yeah.
00:35:23.763 --> 00:35:25.251
It's like a faraday cage.
00:35:25.454 --> 00:35:32.723
Yeah yeah um She asks why they're keeping them here, but she means why they're
00:35:32.723 --> 00:35:35.393
keeping them on the planet, not in this lab.
00:35:35.393 --> 00:35:36.753
Not why in this lab.
00:35:36.753 --> 00:35:40.913
Yeah. And she's like, if you let me go back to the planet, then that won't happen
00:35:40.913 --> 00:35:45.261
anymore. She's like about the EM field spiking and interfering with things and so on.
00:35:48.263 --> 00:35:50.706
And she's like, you don't know that. You don't know anything.
00:35:50.875 --> 00:35:54.681
You're just keeping me here because you're afraid. Also very teenager.
00:35:56.063 --> 00:36:03.522
Yeah. So teenager. I mean, yeah, all the Cassandra being the emo teenager thing,
00:36:03.818 --> 00:36:05.403
I mean, they're absolutely nailing it.
00:36:05.723 --> 00:36:10.314
Yeah, yeah. And it's also well played by the actors. It's just totally believable.
00:36:10.761 --> 00:36:14.035
Yeah. And then Carter reports what she's found, basically.
00:36:15.701 --> 00:36:20.767
Yeah. So, all right. So then that means we go back to the planet.
00:36:20.767 --> 00:36:22.747
And the funny thing is, in my mind.
00:36:22.747 --> 00:36:27.337
Not quite. Frasier has a couple more things. She basically figured out a way
00:36:27.337 --> 00:36:32.247
to, like, at least do an EEG about Kathy's brain, which I'm like,
00:36:32.247 --> 00:36:34.904
it's also electrical. Okay, but fine.
00:36:37.247 --> 00:36:41.806
Basically, it's changing the way her cells generate fields, electrical fields.
00:36:42.381 --> 00:36:46.607
The body is also generating heat, and the EEG is showing that the brain activity is increasing.
00:36:47.767 --> 00:36:51.564
They just don't know why, and they can't stop it yet, at least.
00:36:52.242 --> 00:36:52.787
Yet.
00:36:53.495 --> 00:36:54.710
And then we go to the planet.
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.392
Okay. And so in my mind, they had all left, and now they all went back.
00:37:00.520 --> 00:37:05.307
But I was wrong. It was only Sam that went back. Everyone else stayed behind.
00:37:05.747 --> 00:37:09.757
The other three stayed behind. And from a writing perspective,
00:37:09.757 --> 00:37:11.405
for a reason, the test happened that way.
00:37:12.891 --> 00:37:15.597
Yeah Carter might.
00:37:15.597 --> 00:37:16.207
Have been able.
00:37:16.727 --> 00:37:18.046
To Sense Nearty,
00:37:21.110 --> 00:37:25.397
Oh my god I had forgotten about that part I thought it was about Sam needed
00:37:25.397 --> 00:37:30.877
to have the interactions With Cassandra I mean that too But I think she also for that.
00:37:30.877 --> 00:37:32.057
Plot reason Couldn't be.
00:37:32.057 --> 00:37:38.437
On the planet You're right she could not be on the planet Yeah okay so They're
00:37:38.437 --> 00:37:46.967
still in the lab And and daniel finds uh like more information yeah and and he goes,
00:37:49.282 --> 00:37:50.027
um he says it's.
00:37:50.527 --> 00:37:53.857
Evolution of the hawk tar and he's.
00:37:53.857 --> 00:37:57.297
Like right and she looks like that's a word i haven't heard in a long time.
00:37:57.297 --> 00:38:01.647
Yeah like she got the hawk tar and she was like i haven't heard this in a long
00:38:01.647 --> 00:38:05.012
time he never even answers like okay does he know it or not.
00:38:06.407 --> 00:38:11.794
Yeah. I'm guessing he knows it, which is why Daniel later on tells us what it means.
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:12.393
Yeah, of course.
00:38:12.413 --> 00:38:16.965
But he doesn't tell us now because that would be too much of a reveal,
00:38:17.255 --> 00:38:19.863
even for a show that he had this information to us.
00:38:19.863 --> 00:38:22.249
That would also be too many lines for Teok.
00:38:23.853 --> 00:38:26.293
That's a really good point. Yeah.
00:38:26.909 --> 00:38:29.643
Yeah. So, and then something happened.
00:38:30.723 --> 00:38:35.473
Oh, yeah. The rings activate again, but there's no one there.
00:38:35.813 --> 00:38:41.735
Yeah and i'm like hint hint hint right when does that happen yeah and jack's like.
00:38:42.565 --> 00:38:43.628
Time to go kids.
00:38:44.016 --> 00:38:48.513
Yeah and and then he's like no and then he's like i think i did that did do
00:38:48.513 --> 00:38:55.253
that which is you know the joke you had dad set up earlier yeah yeah but we
00:38:55.253 --> 00:38:56.606
see something's watching them.
00:38:57.913 --> 00:39:01.873
Right and so at that point i'm like okay so we've got the invisible person.
00:39:01.873 --> 00:39:05.157
Here yeah yeah and yeah Yeah.
00:39:05.893 --> 00:39:11.073
Which is what we're supposed to deduce. But for the people that are slower with
00:39:11.073 --> 00:39:13.615
picking up on things, oftentimes me,
00:39:16.193 --> 00:39:18.613
then it's like a mystery. Like, what was that?
00:39:18.613 --> 00:39:20.819
Yes. Yes.
00:39:22.717 --> 00:39:33.665
Yeah. Okay, so I think this is where we start seeing Cassandra exhibit her telekinetic powers.
00:39:33.839 --> 00:39:40.087
Correct. So we go back to the infirmary. Carter is there to play chess like
00:39:40.087 --> 00:39:41.479
they do every other Saturday.
00:39:42.517 --> 00:39:46.337
She mentions that. Yeah, so she's setting up the chess board.
00:39:46.817 --> 00:39:50.266
Cassandra's like really not all that excited about this.
00:39:50.777 --> 00:39:51.077
And.
00:39:53.657 --> 00:39:55.891
She actually makes one of the chess pieces move.
00:39:56.042 --> 00:40:03.107
Not quite we get there so it starts with a discussion Cassie says I'm changing
00:40:03.107 --> 00:40:06.847
into something and there's nothing you can do to stop it like she's realizing
00:40:06.847 --> 00:40:08.215
what the situation is right,
00:40:10.377 --> 00:40:14.877
and then there's a discussion about and that's where she says she calls her
00:40:14.877 --> 00:40:18.977
Doc Frazier she says Dr. Frazier isn't my real mother she died when the earthy
00:40:18.977 --> 00:40:22.907
poisoned my village which Carter's like, I know that. Janet knows that too.
00:40:22.907 --> 00:40:25.096
And please don't call her Dr. Frazier.
00:40:26.089 --> 00:40:29.548
And because she wants to be hurtful, right?
00:40:29.978 --> 00:40:33.707
Because I know that's why. And Carter says, because she loves you and she deserves
00:40:33.707 --> 00:40:35.539
better. We all love you for that matter.
00:40:36.456 --> 00:40:40.799
Typical teenager. Like she's being like hurtful for no reason.
00:40:41.697 --> 00:40:43.167
Yeah, for the sake of hurting people.
00:40:43.167 --> 00:40:47.887
Yeah, exactly. And that's when she reveals that she can do things because she
00:40:47.887 --> 00:40:49.406
moves the chess piece with her mind.
00:40:50.405 --> 00:40:51.002
Mm-hmm.
00:40:53.533 --> 00:40:57.167
And she also makes a comment about Jack.
00:40:57.324 --> 00:41:02.473
Yeah. There's like something, Jack called it, I think, forces or something. Yeah.
00:41:05.317 --> 00:41:10.617
Well, they have the meeting about how did she do that, and Jack keeps going, magnets.
00:41:10.617 --> 00:41:16.247
That's later. That's later. In this situation, where we get the comment,
00:41:16.764 --> 00:41:18.662
I think she calls it forces.
00:41:20.433 --> 00:41:23.463
Oh, something like that. No, it's not forces. But it's like...
00:41:25.820 --> 00:41:27.667
Forces, powers, something like that.
00:41:27.667 --> 00:41:32.317
Powers. Yeah, she's like... Let me find...
00:41:36.877 --> 00:41:40.067
Jack calls them horses. Horses.
00:41:40.097 --> 00:41:40.777
Oh, right.
00:41:40.777 --> 00:41:41.907
The chess pieces.
00:41:41.907 --> 00:41:42.677
She calls them horses.
00:41:42.677 --> 00:41:45.479
Horses, exactly. Not forces. Horses, he calls them.
00:41:45.944 --> 00:41:50.420
And Carter says, well, that's good old Neil for you.
00:41:50.774 --> 00:41:55.626
And Cassandra says, yeah, he always pretends he's not as smart as he really is.
00:41:57.377 --> 00:41:59.441
She's a very perceptive person. She's right.
00:41:59.662 --> 00:42:00.417
She is right.
00:42:02.454 --> 00:42:03.437
and Carter,
00:42:05.977 --> 00:42:10.107
she's good she's like I see you and until your head starts spinning around and
00:42:10.107 --> 00:42:12.884
probably even then I will still see you,
00:42:14.633 --> 00:42:17.616
Because Cassandra is kind of concerned that she's changing, right?
00:42:18.335 --> 00:42:18.671
Yeah.
00:42:18.671 --> 00:42:22.521
Which is also, again, a very teenager topic, right? Everything is changing.
00:42:22.521 --> 00:42:24.281
I'm changing. Am I still me?
00:42:25.901 --> 00:42:30.321
Yeah. And she's asking Sam about that. And that was Sam's response.
00:42:30.321 --> 00:42:33.267
What do you see when you look at me now? Yeah, she says. Yeah, exactly.
00:42:34.027 --> 00:42:38.781
Okay. So then now we probably get the magnets lines.
00:42:38.781 --> 00:42:43.591
Yes. So because what we just saw was, of course, also in cameras.
00:42:43.591 --> 00:42:46.241
and Hammond watched this footage, basically.
00:42:46.601 --> 00:42:48.044
Oh, that's right. We got to see,
00:42:48.921 --> 00:42:56.426
a really nice camera shot transition where we're watching from our eyes.
00:42:56.606 --> 00:42:56.861
Yes.
00:42:56.861 --> 00:43:02.266
But then everything changes and it's the exact same thing, but it's on a black and white display.
00:43:02.458 --> 00:43:06.371
Correct. And that's the screen. And it's Hammond watching it and then he's like,
00:43:06.371 --> 00:43:09.923
how can she do that? And that's where we get the magnets thing.
00:43:11.096 --> 00:43:12.561
Mm-hmm. Magnets.
00:43:13.211 --> 00:43:14.981
And Hammond's like, what?
00:43:17.861 --> 00:43:20.685
Like, he doesn't say anything. He just looks. He's, like, confused.
00:43:20.976 --> 00:43:22.560
And Jack is like, magnets.
00:43:22.862 --> 00:43:27.091
Every one of those little pieces has got a little tiny magnet on the bottom
00:43:27.091 --> 00:43:30.501
to hold it to the board, like when you're driving so it doesn't rattle off.
00:43:30.501 --> 00:43:33.967
Anyway, every one of those magnets has a little electrical field around it.
00:43:34.339 --> 00:43:37.183
And that's how she was able to manipulate it. Magnets.
00:43:38.437 --> 00:43:40.701
He is smarter than he looks. Or that he pretends.
00:43:40.701 --> 00:43:42.631
He's a lot smarter than he acts.
00:43:42.631 --> 00:43:44.231
You figured it out, right?
00:43:44.231 --> 00:43:44.827
Mm-hmm.
00:43:47.464 --> 00:43:50.128
Frasier doesn't know how it's possible but it's clearly happening.
00:43:50.488 --> 00:43:53.164
She doesn't know how that can happen.
00:43:55.985 --> 00:43:59.708
And Daniel's like, oh, actually, Teal'c filled me in on something that might explain that.
00:43:59.708 --> 00:44:06.045
So instead of letting Teal'c tell us, Daniel gets to tell us what Teal'c said.
00:44:06.214 --> 00:44:10.458
So Hoc-Tar is actually a hybrid of Togo old worlds. Hoc, which means advanced,
00:44:10.458 --> 00:44:12.971
and Tar, which is, I believe, a slang for human.
00:44:13.238 --> 00:44:15.798
So essentially it's an advanced human. Hoc-Tauri.
00:44:16.297 --> 00:44:20.668
Anyway, Nyrti has been studying the children of Henka, which is the name of the planet, right?
00:44:21.098 --> 00:44:25.254
Because she believed they were evolving into Hoktar, so advanced humans.
00:44:27.111 --> 00:44:34.077
And so now they're like, okay, if that's what's going on, then that explains,
00:44:34.917 --> 00:44:36.287
the retrovirus they found.
00:44:36.287 --> 00:44:40.415
Yeah, because that's the catalyst to that evolution, right?
00:44:41.784 --> 00:44:42.162
Yeah.
00:44:42.533 --> 00:44:46.754
Yeah, and Tilk, of course, now he gets to say something, and he's like,
00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:50.039
such advanced humans will represent a powerful host for the gold.
00:44:51.734 --> 00:44:53.499
Thank you for stating the obvious. Right.
00:44:54.457 --> 00:44:59.877
Right. So
for the people at the back of the bus that didn't pick up on what
00:44:59.877 --> 00:45:04.207
he was putting down, what it means is that NIRTI has been studying these people
00:45:04.207 --> 00:45:06.026
and conducting experiments on them,
00:45:07.717 --> 00:45:14.497
to essentially accelerate this evolution so she can have her super host body.
00:45:14.497 --> 00:45:18.902
Yeah. And that also explains why she killed everybody on the planet.
00:45:19.813 --> 00:45:21.903
Because she didn't want anyone to know what she was doing.
00:45:22.060 --> 00:45:28.433
Correct. When HCC showed up, she basically killed the experiment.
00:45:28.573 --> 00:45:32.538
She was like, this is getting too dangerous. I don't want anybody to know that I'm doing this.
00:45:32.979 --> 00:45:35.177
I'm just going to kill everybody. So she did.
00:45:35.177 --> 00:45:42.608
But it also explains why she made sure that none of the teenagers died.
00:45:42.875 --> 00:45:45.557
It's because if everyone's dying from this, they can't,
00:45:48.750 --> 00:45:50.827
continue to move the evolution process forward.
00:45:50.827 --> 00:45:52.047
Yes yeah exactly,
00:45:54.183 --> 00:45:56.552
yeah so why did NIRT stop it.
00:45:59.618 --> 00:46:01.518
She wins them passing on the RNA.
00:46:01.838 --> 00:46:07.871
Exactly, correct. That's exactly it. So it's a long-term, a very long-term experiment.
00:46:08.208 --> 00:46:11.343
So then the question is, Daniel asks us, how far along is Cassandra?
00:46:12.167 --> 00:46:16.910
I mean, what if she really is transforming into something else?
00:46:17.914 --> 00:46:22.368
But, Frasier I think points it up, the fever is rising, so it's clearly killing
00:46:22.368 --> 00:46:25.878
her. And then Hammond is like, well, let's find answers.
00:46:27.080 --> 00:46:30.191
Which is good. a lot of speculation maybe find some answers.
00:46:30.946 --> 00:46:38.908
Yeah that seems like a reasonable move yep and okay so then,
00:46:40.898 --> 00:46:42.815
now we go back to Cassandra yep
00:46:43.129 --> 00:46:49.584
and I believe this is where she's floating the chess pieces yep and and,
00:46:52.898 --> 00:46:57.525
taking everything to account from the exposition room and then seeing this now yep And,
00:46:58.535 --> 00:47:05.498
I was able to deduce that floating the chess pieces, she's using that as a heat
00:47:05.498 --> 00:47:10.094
sink because she's generating all this heat and needs to dissipate it.
00:47:10.534 --> 00:47:14.179
And by using that telekinetic power, it releases the heat.
00:47:14.878 --> 00:47:17.691
Yeah. You also said she's becoming super Cassie.
00:47:18.992 --> 00:47:20.728
Oh, yeah.
00:47:20.728 --> 00:47:23.473
I don't know if it was here or before, but you called it super Cassie.
00:47:23.938 --> 00:47:26.048
Yeah. Yeah, she's turning into super Cassie.
00:47:26.048 --> 00:47:29.075
Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:47:31.238 --> 00:47:35.698
And she says, like, this helps her. But then also she tells Janet,
00:47:35.698 --> 00:47:39.987
she's like, I want this to happen, Janet. And she calls her Janet again. It's important.
00:47:40.718 --> 00:47:46.257
Right. You know that it's more than that now. I can feel the power inside me. It's only beginning.
00:47:49.950 --> 00:47:50.720
Yeah.
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.780
And then Frasier points out, well, but it's also taking a toll on you and it
00:47:54.780 --> 00:47:55.691
might actually kill you.
00:47:56.915 --> 00:48:01.043
To which she says, maybe dying is part of the transformation. Like,
00:48:03.500 --> 00:48:05.072
really? Really?
00:48:05.617 --> 00:48:06.280
Yeah.
00:48:06.620 --> 00:48:11.110
It's kind of a big risk. What if it's not?
00:48:11.110 --> 00:48:13.700
Caterpillars don't die when they become butterflies.
00:48:14.060 --> 00:48:15.166
I said, what if it's not?
00:48:16.060 --> 00:48:16.519
Yeah.
00:48:17.628 --> 00:48:23.280
Yeah. And she puts down the chest piece. And that's where we see what you mentioned,
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.800
right? The heat sink. Because Frasier touches it and burns her hand.
00:48:27.500 --> 00:48:27.760
Yes.
00:48:28.200 --> 00:48:31.947
Yeah. And Kathy actually apologizes for that. She's like, sorry.
00:48:33.306 --> 00:48:34.360
Yeah. Well, I mean.
00:48:34.803 --> 00:48:35.860
She didn't warn her.
00:48:36.725 --> 00:48:39.906
Yeah. Yeah. And I would expect,
00:48:42.040 --> 00:48:46.744
any teenager in that same position doing the whole emo thing,
00:48:47.017 --> 00:48:49.990
when they see something like that happen because they still do care.
00:48:49.990 --> 00:48:55.360
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I mean, she is, I think, starting to realize that that
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.356
is serious, the situation she's in.
00:48:59.057 --> 00:48:59.469
Yeah.
00:48:59.684 --> 00:49:03.670
Yeah. And Frasier says something and I have it verbatim again.
00:49:03.670 --> 00:49:06.990
She says, Sweetheart, sometimes when a person is sick, it is important for them
00:49:06.990 --> 00:49:09.221
to fight. I want you to fight this. Okay.
00:49:10.905 --> 00:49:11.439
And she,
00:49:12.965 --> 00:49:14.330
It reluctantly agrees.
00:49:15.374 --> 00:49:19.275
Yeah. Now we have a problem with the story.
00:49:19.821 --> 00:49:20.198
Yes.
00:49:21.325 --> 00:49:25.162
Because we see that the invisible person is there.
00:49:26.143 --> 00:49:28.813
No, this happens in the next scene. No, right?
00:49:28.951 --> 00:49:31.989
Oh, jeez. Okay, well, in the next scene we have a problem.
00:49:31.989 --> 00:49:35.789
Exactly where this is coming now. So Carter and Frasier are reviewing scans.
00:49:35.789 --> 00:49:37.722
That's the scene we're setting up now.
00:49:39.649 --> 00:49:41.763
Okay. But here's where the problem comes in for me.
00:49:42.024 --> 00:49:42.216
Yeah.
00:49:42.581 --> 00:49:46.619
I'm totally separate from my clear
00:49:46.619 --> 00:49:50.409
inability to overcome my ability to get everything in the right order.
00:49:51.533 --> 00:49:53.936
Maybe you need to evolve into a guitar.
00:49:55.629 --> 00:49:59.979
Clearly. I need that, yes. So, the invisible person's there.
00:49:59.979 --> 00:50:06.079
And we know because we get the weird camera shot with the distorted colors and
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:07.798
everything. Yeah. Okay.
00:50:08.477 --> 00:50:13.369
how can that person be there because they watched everyone else,
00:50:14.469 --> 00:50:19.733
ring out of the chamber so they have to ring out of the chamber too to get up,
00:50:20.285 --> 00:50:24.829
on the surface with them to go back to the gate to go through with them which
00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:29.879
means that it would be obvious that someone else had done the ring thing to get out.
00:50:29.879 --> 00:50:33.769
Not necessarily I mean we don't know how far away the rings are because we never
00:50:33.769 --> 00:50:38.559
see that right the forest I mean it's just Like, we remember the gate was not
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:41.064
far from the village, but the forest was a little bit further away.
00:50:41.407 --> 00:50:44.240
So it's totally possible that the forest is actually further away.
00:50:44.501 --> 00:50:48.641
And, I mean, Jack and whatever, they're not in any rush. They're not rushing back to the gate.
00:50:48.884 --> 00:50:53.691
So they might have just been, like, leisurely walking back and talking, whatever.
00:50:54.038 --> 00:50:58.069
So she could wait, like, two, three, four minutes until, like,
00:50:58.069 --> 00:51:00.549
they're far enough away, ring up, and then just catch up with them.
00:51:01.091 --> 00:51:04.238
And she's a good world, so who knows how fast she can run.
00:51:04.876 --> 00:51:06.159
Yeah, okay, that's fair.
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.189
That's at least my headcanon how this would have happened.
00:51:09.509 --> 00:51:13.729
I had the same question. I'm like, because she clearly sees them bring up.
00:51:13.729 --> 00:51:16.650
So it's like she didn't go with them that time. But...
00:51:18.447 --> 00:51:24.046
Well, I think it's totally possible that she had enough time to go up,
00:51:24.046 --> 00:51:25.859
go after them and join them, basically.
00:51:26.509 --> 00:51:31.594
I have a whole other problem with that. Because supposedly they have those Ritu
00:51:32.001 --> 00:51:35.076
scanner thingies, and especially after last time she was cloaked.
00:51:35.076 --> 00:51:36.556
And they're set up on the gate.
00:51:36.556 --> 00:51:40.356
Yeah, and especially after the last time she was cloaked and she should still
00:51:40.356 --> 00:51:42.578
be out there, whatever. They should have detected her.
00:51:44.029 --> 00:51:48.726
I had forgotten about those on the gates. And yes, you're right,
00:51:48.726 --> 00:51:52.776
because that became a standard thing when the gate opens.
00:51:52.776 --> 00:51:56.396
Unless the writers don't. Maybe they were broken this week and they were like,
00:51:56.396 --> 00:51:59.396
ah, whatever. The retool are gone, whatever.
00:52:00.794 --> 00:52:04.316
Yeah, well, they definitely had to not be working. Otherwise,
00:52:05.376 --> 00:52:07.255
the later scenes don't work.
00:52:08.357 --> 00:52:12.686
Yeah, exactly. So, but anyhow, so they're going, they're having a discussion
00:52:12.686 --> 00:52:14.856
about the data that they have.
00:52:15.496 --> 00:52:17.986
ultimately they both end up leaving the.
00:52:17.986 --> 00:52:19.073
Room yeah,
00:52:22.576 --> 00:52:27.166
there's mentioned that there's a 25% higher level of activity in her brain that
00:52:27.166 --> 00:52:31.526
she found a way to channel the heat from her body which we just saw but also
00:52:31.526 --> 00:52:37.056
that she hasn't been able to sleep she hasn't slept in 30 hours which,
00:52:37.716 --> 00:52:45.546
that's not good so Carter's like I'll go check on her yeah And then we get the
00:52:45.546 --> 00:52:47.284
invisible person using the computer.
00:52:48.422 --> 00:52:48.856
Right.
00:52:49.216 --> 00:52:52.579
And I think this is the point where you texted me.
00:52:54.275 --> 00:52:56.312
Yeah, because I'm like, oh, yeah, called it.
00:52:56.533 --> 00:52:59.603
Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah. No, no, you're like, I get it. Nearty is invisible
00:52:59.603 --> 00:53:03.580
and reading SG-1's data. They're going to strike a deal with her to save Cassandra.
00:53:03.824 --> 00:53:07.953
And after they discover she's been invisible on the base, you basically predicted
00:53:07.953 --> 00:53:09.633
the rest of the episode at this point.
00:53:09.633 --> 00:53:11.057
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:11.423 --> 00:53:11.788
Yes.
00:53:11.957 --> 00:53:13.263
So, yeah.
00:53:15.869 --> 00:53:18.702
And so she uncloaks herself. She's going through all the data.
00:53:18.865 --> 00:53:19.083
Yeah.
00:53:20.243 --> 00:53:27.461
And as she's doing this, Frasier realizes she doesn't have her key card to open the elevator.
00:53:27.908 --> 00:53:31.611
Happens later. You mixed up two scenes.
00:53:33.383 --> 00:53:38.536
This is she only reviews data on the computer. This is later in the lab again.
00:53:40.283 --> 00:53:43.413
We get a Kathy and Carter scene in between.
00:53:46.530 --> 00:53:54.988
Huh. Oh, is this a scene where Cassie talks about how Sam stayed with her when
00:53:54.988 --> 00:53:56.909
they thought she was going to be a bomb?
00:53:57.252 --> 00:53:57.538
Yes.
00:53:57.918 --> 00:54:02.798
Okay. How could I forget that scene? That's actually a really nice scene. I thought it came later.
00:54:03.198 --> 00:54:06.268
No, no. This is really where it happened. Yeah.
00:54:06.268 --> 00:54:06.518
Okay.
00:54:06.518 --> 00:54:12.258
Yeah, they talk about it. Like, Kathy Lakin's, what's happening to her with
00:54:12.258 --> 00:54:15.898
what Carter felt when she didn't leave Kathy alone, right? It was an instinct,
00:54:16.524 --> 00:54:18.939
that it was all all right. She didn't know.
00:54:20.598 --> 00:54:23.838
Like, it was clearly an instinct. And Kathy has the instinct that this is a
00:54:23.838
--> 00:54:24.958
good thing that's happening.
00:54:26.688 --> 00:54:27.895
The same way, right?
00:54:30.014 --> 00:54:30.589
Yeah.
00:54:30.925 --> 00:54:31.262
Yeah.
00:54:31.425 --> 00:54:34.437
And, you know, maybe she's right or not.
00:54:34.699 --> 00:54:41.769
Yeah. But as Carter points out, I mean, it could kind of not end well for her.
00:54:43.423 --> 00:54:52.188
Right. But Kathy clearly is kind of ambiguous about that or divided.
00:54:52.188 --> 00:54:56.488
She's not sure because she asks Sam, like, when the time comes,
00:54:56.488 --> 00:54:59.753
when it is, she says, when it is time, will you be here?
00:55:00.716 --> 00:55:01.982
So she doesn't want to be alone.
00:55:03.834 --> 00:55:04.693
Which is fair. Yeah.
00:55:05.258 --> 00:55:10.277
I mean, I think she's realizing that as much as it feels right and as much that
00:55:10.608 --> 00:55:13.354
maybe death is part of the transformation, she doesn't know that.
00:55:14.051 --> 00:55:18.868
There's also a possibility that she just might die like the others have before
00:55:18.868 --> 00:55:23.720
her, and that she doesn't want to be alone for that.
00:55:25.979 --> 00:55:32.155
And, of course, Sam, she promises to be there no matter what.
00:55:32.271 --> 00:55:36.962
Yes, yeah. And then Kathy says, I guess I can go to sleep then.
00:55:39.345 --> 00:55:39.909
Okay.
00:55:40.158 --> 00:55:43.177
Yeah. Which was one thing I think Carter asked her about.
00:55:43.722 --> 00:55:44.272
Yeah.
00:55:44.272 --> 00:55:44.605
Yes.
00:55:45.301 --> 00:55:49.262
Okay. So now we get to the scene that I thought that I was already in, right?
00:55:49.262 --> 00:55:52.942
Yeah. So Frazier's in her lap alone, and she's reviewing charts,
00:55:52.942 --> 00:55:56.273
and she's looking at stuff under a microscope, and she walks out.
00:55:57.865 --> 00:56:00.292
That's exactly the scene that you described.
00:56:00.292 --> 00:56:05.869
Okay. And, hey, at least I remember that this scene happened.
00:56:06.143 --> 00:56:06.412
Yes.
00:56:07.338 --> 00:56:08.252
So, yeah.
00:56:08.252 --> 00:56:11.675
To be fair, so far we do not know who that figure is.
00:56:12.587 --> 00:56:17.171
Oh, that's true. We just assume she was in the lab and whatever.
00:56:17.583 --> 00:56:20.178
I think a good assumption is it's near G, but we don't know yet.
00:56:20.961 --> 00:56:25.338
Yeah. I mean, that's true. It could be anyone.
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.172
But... Yeah, the likelihood that it's near T is pretty high.
00:56:30.172 --> 00:56:31.392
And it turns out, yes, it is.
00:56:31.672 --> 00:56:32.362
Yeah, exactly.
00:56:33.232 --> 00:56:37.712
Because she decloaks, she starts going through all the documents, and,
00:56:40.732 --> 00:56:43.856
she looks at the x-rays that are on the wall.
00:56:44.077 --> 00:56:50.184
Yeah, and she puts one of the charts on the edge of a desk, somewhere where it wasn't before.
00:56:50.932 --> 00:56:59.181
Mm-hmm. And by this point, Doc Frazier realizes she doesn't
have her key card, so she has to go back.
00:56:59.396 --> 00:56:59.612
Yeah.
00:57:00.133 --> 00:57:05.305
And right before she steps in the room, Nearty realizes, oh, crap.
00:57:05.677 --> 00:57:06.107
Yeah.
00:57:06.368 --> 00:57:10.193
Got a cloak. Yeah. And so just cloaks and leaves everything as it is.
00:57:10.553 --> 00:57:16.049
Yeah. So Doc Frazier sees that her stuff isn't where she had left it, which is kind of weird.
00:57:16.438 --> 00:57:20.062
Yeah, but she is, I think, also not sure. She's like, I mean, maybe she's just tired.
00:57:20.062 --> 00:57:26.522
Right yeah but then she looks at the uh at the x-rays yeah and and has something
00:57:26.522 --> 00:57:29.632
and rushes out and rushes out yeah and,
00:57:30.469 --> 00:57:35.832
um so what she saw we now discover because she runs into sam this is still the
00:57:35.832 --> 00:57:38.747
same scene right okay i've got one right same scene yeah,
00:57:39.577 --> 00:57:44.472
and uh and she wants to know if they still have any of the remains from from
00:57:44.472 --> 00:57:49.292
the villagers because she needs a bone fragment so she can rent tests on it.
00:57:49.692 --> 00:57:53.572
No, she wants tissue. And Carter's like, well, no, I mean, we kind of burnt
00:57:53.572 --> 00:57:55.686
them, so, because, you know...
00:57:57.345 --> 00:58:01.320
poison and so on. But then she's like, oh no, this is good because there might
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:02.825
still be bone fragments, so I need that.
00:58:05.050 --> 00:58:08.758
There might be antibodies, but they get interrupted.
00:58:09.872 --> 00:58:14.045
Right, because now there's like an intruder alarm thing going,
00:58:14.503 --> 00:58:22.218
and so they both make a run back to the room that Cassandra's in,
00:58:22.890 --> 00:58:27.181
only to find a guard laying on the ground outside the door.
00:58:27.890 --> 00:58:33.184
And another guard has already shown up, and it's like, yeah, not looking good.
00:58:35.059 --> 00:58:37.433
And Cassandra is freaking out in the room.
00:58:37.619 --> 00:58:38.060
Yeah.
00:58:38.611 --> 00:58:40.782
And she's like, there's a Gould here.
00:58:41.003 --> 00:58:42.478
Yeah, she sends a Gould.
00:58:44.470 --> 00:58:46.088
Which we already know that she can.
00:58:46.315 --> 00:58:49.983
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, her and Sam are kind of the two that could.
00:58:50.790 --> 00:58:51.191
Yeah.
00:58:51.371 --> 00:58:54.384
And until if the plot requires it.
00:58:56.510 --> 00:58:56.730
Yeah.
00:58:57.762 --> 00:58:59.320
Yeah yeah his.
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:00.607
Sometime sensor yeah.
00:59:00.850 --> 00:59:05.477
Yeah sometimes sensor like it's just broken half of the time like to this time,
00:59:08.670 --> 00:59:12.099
yeah so Carter asked for ZADs and for TERs,
00:59:13.638 --> 00:59:16.936
Because they are going to scan for hidden gold.
00:59:17.563 --> 00:59:18.271
Right.
00:59:20.822 --> 00:59:25.482
And so at this point, they put together what I already did, which is Nierty's
00:59:25.482 --> 00:59:28.650
been on the base the whole time.
00:59:28.958 --> 00:59:29.242
Yes.
00:59:29.962 --> 00:59:32.040
But now they're on a hunt because they're going to find her.
00:59:32.243 --> 00:59:32.661
Yes.
00:59:32.853 --> 00:59:34.693
And, yeah.
00:59:36.882 --> 00:59:38.617
But so now,
00:59:40.962 --> 00:59:44.582
they start their hunt, their clearing areas. are locking their blast doors.
00:59:44.702 --> 00:59:48.502
Not quite. There's one little thing in between because while they rush out to,
00:59:48.962 --> 00:59:52.342
get ready to clear and all of that, they talk to Cassie.
00:59:52.342 --> 00:59:53.014
Oh, Frasier.
00:59:53.281 --> 01:00:00.299
Frasier is like, because they're wondering, like, why did Nearty wait until now?
01:00:01.768 --> 01:00:05.622
Right? Why did she wait until now to come after Cassandra? That makes no sense.
01:00:05.622 --> 01:00:07.474
That's the question. It doesn't get answered.
01:00:08.252 --> 01:00:15.774
And we see, it gets interspersed now with the clearing of the hallways of Carter and Daniel and Teal'c.
01:00:16.580 --> 01:00:19.262
Basically, they're going step by step. And we go back,
01:00:21.659 --> 01:00:25.177
to the infirmary, right? To the isolation lab.
01:00:26.382 --> 01:00:29.362
And because Cassandra is like, she wanted to know if her experiment worked.
01:00:30.483 --> 01:00:35.072
And they're like, not sure. I think Rachel's like, sure. And she's like,
01:00:35.072 --> 01:00:39.248
no, if the transformation were to kill me, she would have just let it happen.
01:00:39.684 --> 01:00:41.384
Don't you see? it did work.
01:00:43.456 --> 01:00:47.624
Which actually makes sense. Yeah. Hooray emo Cassie.
01:00:47.798 --> 01:00:48.385
Hooray emo Cassie.
01:00:48.385 --> 01:00:49.555
For putting the pieces together.
01:00:49.555 --> 01:00:50.863
Yeah. But there's a problem.
01:00:52.007 --> 01:00:55.920
Yeah. Then she senses that Nirti's right there with them.
01:00:56.128 --> 01:00:57.632
Yeah. And the observation thingy.
01:00:58.305 --> 01:01:01.196
And points to where invisible Nirti is.
01:01:01.429 --> 01:01:01.695
Yeah.
01:01:01.695 --> 01:01:07.095
And so Jack's like giddy up. And he uses their expensive Zat gun prop.
01:01:07.095 --> 01:01:10.709
Yeah. I think Nirti kind of tries to escape through the glass.
01:01:10.930 --> 01:01:14.134
Like literally jumps through the glass. I'm like, is this a stupidest idea? Okay, okay.
01:01:15.365 --> 01:01:19.535
I was trying to figure out, was she trying to jump up, or was she jumping down through the glass?
01:01:19.535 --> 01:01:21.365
Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of weird.
01:01:21.365 --> 01:01:21.885
Either way, it was weird.
01:01:22.565 --> 01:01:27.025
But anyway, Jack just looks at her and just sats her. He's like, eh, what's the point?
01:01:28.037 --> 01:01:33.180
Yeah. And Kathy is unfortunately ceasing. Basically, right after.
01:01:36.466 --> 01:01:42.457
And, yeah, so now this is where the negotiations
start.
01:01:42.712 --> 01:01:45.893
because they've obviously captured Nyrti.
01:01:47.085 --> 01:01:51.001
And so she's awake again.
01:01:51.338 --> 01:01:55.765
Yeah. They put her in a cell. They put her in a cell.
01:01:55.805 --> 01:01:56.685
And she's restrained.
01:01:57.105 --> 01:02:02.768
Yeah, exactly. And Jack comes in and he asks what happened to Kathy.
01:02:03.987 --> 01:02:06.273
And Nyrti says she will die.
01:02:07.945 --> 01:02:14.220
And Jack is very clear. He's like, if she dies, so do you. yeah he's very matter-of-fact yeah.
01:02:16.177 --> 01:02:19.485
And it doesn't even sound like a threat, just merely a statement of fact.
01:02:19.625 --> 01:02:22.778
No, a statement of fact. And he's like, no doubt about it.
01:02:25.125 --> 01:02:30.191
Yes. Yeah. And so, let the negotiations begin.
01:02:30.301 --> 01:02:30.644
Yeah.
01:02:30.777 --> 01:02:34.724
And she's like, well, I can help her, but here are the terms.
01:02:34.986 --> 01:02:35.241
Yeah.
01:02:36.118 --> 01:02:39.072
And what she wants is to be able to leave.
01:02:39.403 --> 01:02:39.810
Mm-hmm.
01:02:40.053 --> 01:02:45.638
She gets to take her cloaking device with her. And she gets to have a sample of Cassandra's blood.
01:02:45.853 --> 01:02:50.677
Yeah and i think jack is like no and she's like well those are my terms,
01:02:53.335 --> 01:02:55.936
yeah she knows that she's a good position to negotiate.
01:02:56.580 --> 01:02:58.145
She's in a very good position to.
01:02:58.145 --> 01:03:01.613
Negotiate right now yeah she's a girl well she's of course she's cocky yeah,
01:03:04.050 --> 01:03:05.832
right and um yeah.
01:03:07.272 --> 01:03:12.943
So now so now we get to start discussing what to do.
01:03:13.123 --> 01:03:13.245
Mm-hmm.
01:03:17.059 --> 01:03:23.475
And so we have this debate going on about, should this offer be accepted?
01:03:23.475 --> 01:03:27.905
And by the way, this is not where NIRT is being held.
01:03:28.505 --> 01:03:30.660
No, it's not in the infirmary again. Oh, in the infirmary.
01:03:30.910 --> 01:03:32.238
Okay. In the infirmary again.
01:03:32.238 --> 01:03:32.750
You know.
01:03:35.443 --> 01:03:39.985
And they're like, well, do we seriously consider the offer? And Daniel's like, yeah.
01:03:40.585 --> 01:03:41.614
It's worth a shot.
01:03:42.131 --> 01:03:43.405
We're going to keep her alive.
01:03:43.405 --> 01:03:45.585
Yeah, and they're like, I mean, she has a lot of information,
01:03:45.585 --> 01:03:49.075
like, should we go? And I think that comes, actually, never mind,
01:03:49.075 --> 01:03:50.049
I think that comes later.
01:03:52.370 --> 01:03:59.528
Yeah, because we have to have Frasier try and reduce Cassie's fever before we get to that point.
01:03:59.528 --> 01:04:03.768
Yeah, exactly. But they are talking about it, basically. Yeah,
01:04:03.768 --> 01:04:07.549
exactly. She rushes away because she has to get the fever down.
01:04:10.904 --> 01:04:15.564
And so they go to isolation and Cassie doesn't want
to fight.
01:04:16.006 --> 01:04:17.539
And again, Frasier asks her too.
01:04:18.718 --> 01:04:21.700
Cassie just wants to let it happen. And this is where we get the nerves that I mentioned.
01:04:23.471 --> 01:04:27.258
Yeah, she lets us know her temperature is 105 or something.
01:04:27.258 --> 01:04:33.128
106. Oh, it was close. And, goof, on the screen behind it, it's like,
01:04:33.128 --> 01:04:36.218
what is it, 96.7 or something like that.
01:04:36.218 --> 01:04:36.638
Oops.
01:04:36.638 --> 01:04:42.111
On the monitor behind it. 97.2, okay. So, oopsie.
01:04:42.529 --> 01:04:43.074
Oops.
01:04:43.358 --> 01:04:48.549
Yeah. So, whatever, there was something she ordered in the beginning, it's not working.
01:04:49.558 --> 01:04:51.857
So, Kraser grabs something and rushes out.
01:04:52.891 --> 01:04:57.538
Yeah it was it looked like an EpiPen we see the label oh we do?
01:04:57.538 --> 01:04:59.078
I didn't pay attention to that.
01:05:02.458 --> 01:05:03.598
It was a sedative I forget.
01:05:03.598 --> 01:05:05.438
Which one you can.
01:05:05.798 --> 01:05:06.678
Read the name and it.
01:05:07.878 --> 01:05:11.436
Was obviously a sedative okay that's it I didn't see that,
01:05:15.018 --> 01:05:20.498
this is where we go to the exposition room to have the discussion right Right.
01:05:20.498 --> 01:05:20.858
And,
01:05:23.298 --> 01:05:23.650
this.
01:05:24.172 --> 01:05:29.078
Yeah, this is I have a verbatim again because the direction Hammond is fun.
01:05:30.138 --> 01:05:35.451
So Jack says, General, with all due respect, it's not like we're negotiating with terrorists.
01:05:37.398 --> 01:05:41.099
It's exactly like that, Colonel. You're letting your emotions get in the way.
01:05:42.411 --> 01:05:45.836
And I think I skipped over that. I think Jack says something about it.
01:05:45.856 --> 01:05:49.105
At least he has emotions or something. Yeah.
01:05:50.747 --> 01:05:51.756
That would be very Jack.
01:05:51.756 --> 01:05:55.876
Yeah. And it's like, now who cares if you let her go? What difference does this
01:05:55.876 --> 01:05:59.407
make in the grand scheme of things if there's one more gold running around?
01:06:00.208 --> 01:06:04.696
And Tam is like, if we were to allow Neurgy to leave with a sample of Cassandra's
01:06:04.696 --> 01:06:10.516
blood, she could well succeed in her experiment to create a genetically advanced
01:06:10.516 --> 01:06:13.449
host and become dangerously powerful.
01:06:14.134 --> 01:06:19.056
And Tilke agrees with that. He's like, yes. And he's like, the life of a child
01:06:19.056 --> 01:06:22.876
may be sacrificed, but Nerti possesses valuable information that would be lost
01:06:22.876 --> 01:06:24.055
if we allowed her to leave.
01:06:25.878 --> 01:06:27.550
Mm-hmm. Which,
01:06:29.680 --> 01:06:32.623
it's, yeah, that's legit.
01:06:32.890 --> 01:06:36.936
Yeah. It's a real, real situation and a real struggle.
01:06:36.936 --> 01:06:40.566
But it's also, I get the, there's a dilemma, right?
I mean, on the one hand,
01:06:40.566 --> 01:06:44.476
you have a child, and you have a child that you care about, and you have a person
01:06:44.476 --> 01:06:49.666
who says she could do something about it, right?
01:06:49.666 --> 01:06:54.836
Not saying she will, or she's actually not lying, because it's a cold world, right?
01:06:58.252 --> 01:06:58.508
but,
01:07:01.977 --> 01:07:05.747
yeah yeah but i think something about carter carter i think chimed in and says
01:07:05.747 --> 01:07:08.835
like until yesterday we didn't even need no near t was alive,
01:07:11.325 --> 01:07:13.751
yeah so there's that um,
01:07:16.666 --> 01:07:24.677
yeah uh but but then um yeah stuff happens that kind of makes that we don't
01:07:24.677 --> 01:07:27.283
see what the result does what Herman decides until later.
01:07:28.206 --> 01:07:35.230
No, we don't. So what we do see, though, is that Doc Frazier...
01:07:36.397 --> 01:07:37.976
She's in mom mode now.
01:07:38.626 --> 01:07:43.612
Oh, she's very much in mom mode. So that sedative she took, she went up,
01:07:44.197 --> 01:07:49.667
she went to the holding cell, tells the guard that she's supposed to go and check on Nierty.
01:07:49.992 --> 01:07:54.874
The guard goes to open the door for her, and she stabs him with the sedative.
01:07:55.331 --> 01:08:01.014
Yeah And uh So now She goes in To the room,
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:06.802
Yeah And you're She's still sitting there Tied up Yeah And she pulls out a gun
01:08:07.174 --> 01:08:13.611
Yeah Cause or uh Sam Not well Janet pulls out a gun Yeah And it's like You're going to help her.
01:08:13.994 --> 01:08:19.057
Yes Yeah But and then we go back To the exposition Because we have to See the
01:08:19.057 --> 01:08:22.301
next part Of the discussion Mm-hmm Yeah.
01:08:23.597 --> 01:08:25.308
And uh Yeah.
01:08:28.237 --> 01:08:31.697
Because Carter says, well, we're talking about Cassandra, and now it's a Tealick
01:08:31.697 --> 01:08:36.507
and Carter discussion, because Tealick is like, I'm aware, but her sacrifice
01:08:36.507 --> 01:08:39.947
would benefit both our peoples. Neurgy possesses valuable information that could
01:08:39.947 --> 01:08:41.162
help us defeat the Gould.
01:08:43.621 --> 01:08:47.627
And Hammond points out, he's like, we may never have a gould as our prisoner again.
01:08:48.939 --> 01:08:52.074
I mean, given that there's a lot of them, not sure, but okay.
01:08:52.382 --> 01:08:57.947
And considering how many times they've had gould as prisoners, kind of a weak argument.
01:08:58.122 --> 01:09:02.441
Yeah. And Carter's like, I don't have to remind you what Cassandra has gone
01:09:02.441 --> 01:09:03.681
through because of the gould.
01:09:03.681 --> 01:09:11.131
now if we're going to put what we may learn over what might happen over her
01:09:11.131 --> 01:09:14.775
life and Daniel and Jack are like yeah you're right,
01:09:16.413 --> 01:09:20.075
and then we get a call like we never get a resolution here we get a call,
01:09:21.336 --> 01:09:28.621
well it's because Frasier creates the resolution exactly well we hear then a
01:09:28.981 --> 01:09:34.257
couple seconds later what the resolution is because there was a resolution we just Never saw it.
01:09:36.155 --> 01:09:41.339
Yeah. And so now we jump back to the holding cell.
01:09:41.607 --> 01:09:41.801
Yeah.
01:09:42.523 --> 01:09:45.907
And Frazier's standing there with the gun still pointed at Nierti.
01:09:46.164 --> 01:09:46.378
Yeah.
01:09:52.661 --> 01:09:58.195
And at this point, they say, okay, here's the compromise, because everyone else now joins in.
01:09:58.474 --> 01:10:03.641
Yeah, kind of. Hammond tells her to stand down and she's like I can't do that
01:10:03.641 --> 01:10:06.955
and Hammond is Hammond says,
01:10:09.321 --> 01:10:13.651
SG-1 has already convinced me to make a deal for Cassandra's life this isn't
01:10:13.651 --> 01:10:21.787
necessary oh right so basically yes but then he says I only agree to one condition
01:10:21.932 --> 01:10:23.157
you might leave afterwards,
01:10:25.493 --> 01:10:26.954
You get your life. That's it.
01:10:28.945 --> 01:10:32.953
And, uh, yeah. And near tea's like, yeah, no, no.
01:10:33.273 --> 01:10:39.643
And, and Hammond's like, I think I, I should remind you that the woman that's
01:10:39.643 --> 01:10:41.780
pointing a gun at your head is Cassandra's mom.
01:10:41.919 --> 01:10:46.853
Yes. She, and that seems to convince near tea. Yeah.
01:10:47.773 --> 01:10:48.813
You know? Yeah.
01:10:48.813 --> 01:10:51.723
I mean, that's a very compelling argument right there. She's like,
01:10:51.723 --> 01:10:54.161
yeah, she's going to kill me and rip my eyes out.
01:10:55.793 --> 01:10:59.147
Yeah in that order and yeah um,
01:11:01.213 --> 01:11:09.550
so now they head off to uh to the infirmary where where cassandra is and they have,
01:11:10.589 --> 01:11:14.571
they have their nice collection of gould uh medical devices yep,
01:11:15.442 --> 01:11:21.573
and they they're like here you go use the ones you need yeah and um and so near
01:11:21.573 --> 01:11:25.813
t she puts on a couple and she does She uses the.
01:11:25.813 --> 01:11:27.753
Healing hand device we've seen before and the.
01:11:27.753 --> 01:11:28.813
Spidery looking.
01:11:30.073 --> 01:11:30.547
I don't know.
01:11:31.773 --> 01:11:37.553
So we get the yellow beam and the purple beam Yes, exactly And so she does this
01:11:37.553 --> 01:11:43.703
what to me looked like a very half-hearted attempt to save Cassandra And it's like.
01:11:43.703 --> 01:11:49.946
Oh, it's too late It's too late And the others are, try again Traeger is like, you try again.
01:11:51.333 --> 01:11:55.854
And so this time she like actually really put some effort into it,
01:11:58.026 --> 01:12:00.434
and and it's done she's going to be fine.
01:12:01.728 --> 01:12:04.453
And Carter's like, okay, the vital signs are returning tomorrow.
01:12:04.453 --> 01:12:08.972
I'm like, why didn't Frazier say that? But
okay. Guess Carter needed a line.
01:12:10.413 --> 01:12:12.373
Well, you know, contractual obligations.
01:12:12.713 --> 01:12:15.132
But okay. But Carter can do anything, so we know that.
01:12:15.370 --> 01:12:21.366
Right. Yeah. I mean, she's Major MacGuffin.
01:12:21.662 --> 01:12:25.075
Major MacGuffin, yeah. And Kathy asks for a mom.
01:12:26.197 --> 01:12:31.883
Which is nice. It was very important that she said that, because that's the
01:12:31.883 --> 01:12:38.787
cue for us, that she's gone from this emo, dangerous evolution Cassie, back to,
01:12:40.993 --> 01:12:41.811
regular Cassie.
01:12:42.277 --> 01:12:46.855
Yeah. And you wrote, and just like that, Cassandra isn't emo.
01:12:49.053 --> 01:12:52.303
Yeah. By the way, you had also written before, angry Janet, exclamation mark,
01:12:52.303 --> 01:12:54.973
with a gun, exclamation mark. Yeah.
01:12:57.675 --> 01:12:58.433
Yeah, just saying it.
01:12:58.433 --> 01:12:58.533
Yep.
01:13:02.053 --> 01:13:05.993
So Cassie's okay. She hugs her two moms. Yeah.
01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.342
And now we get to see Near T leaving.
01:13:10.539 --> 01:13:12.315
Yeah. So the gate is dialing.
01:13:13.151 --> 01:13:19.933
And this is where we get a setup for, yes, we can see the Near T character again.
01:13:19.933 --> 01:13:25.523
because she lets Jack know that since she doesn't have a blood sample,
01:13:25.523 --> 01:13:27.478
she has to start her experiment over.
01:13:27.791 --> 01:13:30.891
Yeah, and also that the destination is not her final.
01:13:31.141 --> 01:13:34.833
Like, the entrances they're dying, which they don't know. She's like,
01:13:34.833 --> 01:13:36.423
ah, we've never dealt this.
01:13:36.928 --> 01:13:40.626
She's like, yeah, that's not my final destination, of course. She's not stupid.
01:13:41.950 --> 01:13:43.360
No, of course not.
01:13:43.563 --> 01:13:43.802
Yeah.
01:13:44.034 --> 01:13:48.322
And, yeah, so she leaves. Yeah, yeah.
01:13:48.853 --> 01:13:52.107
Yeah, Jack's answer to that is, oh, nuts.
01:13:52.659 --> 01:13:55.553
Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:56.211 --> 01:13:59.926
Yeah. She leaves, but with a twinkle in her eyes.
01:14:01.814 --> 01:14:05.645
Yeah, I mean, I think for her, this is still a win.
01:14:05.930 --> 01:14:10.668
Yeah, for her it's a win. And for the others, not as much. Like,
01:14:10.668 --> 01:14:15.048
O'Neal watches, like, the gate long after she's left, and Hammond is also,
01:14:15.048 --> 01:14:18.562
I think, standing up there. He's also watching it, and neither seem very happy.
01:14:20.058 --> 01:14:20.338
No.
01:14:20.958 --> 01:14:25.307
But they also, they gave her words, and they're going to keep it.
01:14:25.533 --> 01:14:28.186
They're not going, which I think she points out. She's like,
01:14:29.558 --> 01:14:30.502
she wouldn't have done that.
01:14:32.209 --> 01:14:39.338
Yeah, you're right. She did point that out. Okay, so now we get our denouement.
01:14:39.872 --> 01:14:40.156
Yeah.
01:14:40.918 --> 01:14:46.058
And this
is where we see that Cassie's back to normal, happy-go-lucky, not emo Cassie.
01:14:46.078 --> 01:14:51.126
Yeah, yeah. So Carter comes to check in, and she is bored.
01:14:51.411 --> 01:14:55.486
And I wrote that in all uppercase letters. She is capital B bored.
01:14:57.390 --> 01:14:58.766
But at least she's going home tonight.
01:15:00.466 --> 01:15:07.958
Yeah, and so now... Carter, she starts giving her some good-natured ribbing.
01:15:07.958 --> 01:15:10.706
It's like, yeah, you know, because your boyfriend's there.
01:15:10.869 --> 01:15:12.030
Dominique awaits.
01:15:13.098 --> 01:15:17.429
And Cassie's like, stop, no. She's embarrassed, but...
01:15:19.178 --> 01:15:23.298
I mean, first she's like, yeah, and then Carter doesn't let up,
01:15:23.298 --> 01:15:26.208
and she teases her. She's like, oh, that was some kiss, right?
01:15:26.208 --> 01:15:28.458
I mean, like, the lights blew out and everything.
01:15:29.818 --> 01:15:35.349
And fireworks and all of that. And that Kathy blushes. She's like, okay.
01:15:37.897 --> 01:15:40.178
And Sam's like, okay, so let's play chess.
01:15:40.846 --> 01:15:44.968
And then Kathy's like, okay, but I won't be able to move the pieces around just
01:15:44.968 --> 01:15:46.296
by thinking about it. Sorry.
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:49.332
And then Carter's like, good. Then we're evil.
01:15:50.474 --> 01:15:55.598
Yeah. And so now we have our whole family together again.
01:15:55.598 --> 01:15:58.591
Yeah. We're standing there. She's smiling at them.
01:16:00.500 --> 01:16:00.798
Yeah.
01:16:00.798 --> 01:16:05.428
Proud mom and that's where it ends yeah and that's where it ends the end fade
01:16:05.428 --> 01:16:11.751
to black that's it I wrote as Frazier smiles at the two we fade to black yeah.
01:16:14.421 --> 01:16:17.381
So, what did you think of this episode?
01:16:19.146 --> 01:16:25.474
I kind of liked it. It's a, I mean, it's a different story, right?
01:16:25.973 --> 01:16:26.350
Mm-hmm.
01:16:26.617 --> 01:16:30.857
But it has a lot of, I mean, there are some little issues that,
01:16:30.857 --> 01:16:34.988
as I said, I'm okay to overlook for the sake of that,
01:16:36.108 --> 01:16:42.367
freedom of writers to shape the fiction side however they want and step over
01:16:42.367 --> 01:16:44.652
science sometimes. You have to do that. It's fine.
01:16:45.787 --> 01:16:49.208
But I mean, it kind of combines a lot of things. I like Cassie.
01:16:50.347 --> 01:16:57.407
And I like the Sam, Janet, Cassie interaction. Like, I like them from the original
01:16:57.407 --> 01:17:01.477
episode, right? I really like that dynamic and the three together and the two
01:17:01.477 --> 01:17:03.767
moms and, like, all of that.
01:17:04.407 --> 01:17:09.567
Cassie, with her background and the character, it's a very believable story
01:17:09.567 --> 01:17:12.907
from the side of, I mean, we established that, right?
01:17:13.347 --> 01:17:18.207
or we talked about it with for a teenager and typical things that you would
01:17:18.207 --> 01:17:21.821
see in a household with a mom and a teenage girl.
01:17:22.627 --> 01:17:25.237
There's tensions and she wants
01:17:25.237 --> 01:17:29.042
to do things and mom wants to do things and that doesn't always align.
01:17:30.430 --> 01:17:32.020
The teenage angst of,
01:17:33.146 --> 01:17:36.951
Like, what's happening to me? I'm changing, right? I mean, it's a different
01:17:36.951 --> 01:17:39.524
kind of changing this time, right? It's not the normal.
01:17:40.191 --> 01:17:45.131
But I think it's kind of, it's like, it's the same idea, right?
01:17:45.671 --> 01:17:49.660
You're changing and you don't understand it, but it feels like it's normal and right.
01:17:50.339 --> 01:17:54.011
But you don't know that, right? It might also be not. So you're kind of confused
01:17:54.011 --> 01:17:57.131
sometimes and it might be dangerous in a way.
01:17:57.891 --> 01:18:00.191
Maybe not that dangerous, like, but somewhat.
01:18:01.798 --> 01:18:05.851
But you might do things that maybe you shouldn't or that aren't good for you,
01:18:05.851 --> 01:18:07.475
but you don't know any matter, right?
01:18:08.154 --> 01:18:08.648
Yeah.
01:18:08.828 --> 01:18:12.752
Because your electrical fields are going crazy. No, your hormones are going crazy.
01:18:14.411 --> 01:18:15.431
Yeah, it was a metaphor.
01:18:15.791 --> 01:18:22.893
Yeah, of course. But I think it works. So for me, I mean, is it the best ever story? No.
01:18:23.038 --> 01:18:27.861
But it's a fun story. It has a nice ending. It's an interesting storyline.
01:18:27.861 --> 01:18:29.587
It's not super complicated.
01:18:30.491 --> 01:18:38.177
But, and we get to advance the Nirti, Cassandra, Henke storyline,
01:18:38.978 --> 01:18:42.171
which we've gotten every now and then iterations on, right?
01:18:42.171 --> 01:18:46.281
We start with the planet originally, then we had a little bit Nirti later with
01:18:46.281 --> 01:18:47.732
the cloaking and whatever.
01:18:48.179 --> 01:18:51.491
And now we're learning that, like the experiments she's been doing.
01:18:51.491 --> 01:18:57.341
I like that as a storyline, like it advances that story a little bit.
01:18:57.341 --> 01:19:03.311
and clearly we haven't seen the last of that because they teased that so I hope
01:19:03.311 --> 01:19:07.431
they get back to it well I know that if they do or not but I'm not telling you
01:19:07.431 --> 01:19:10.551
that of course but I do hope they get back to it,
01:19:11.491 --> 01:19:16.130
so do I so as I said I like it and again,
01:19:17.436 --> 01:19:20.089
I don't agree with the 6.8 on IMDb,
01:19:22.202 --> 01:19:25.789
okay good casting choices as well I have to say so.
01:19:28.756 --> 01:19:37.020
And for me, I enjoyed having the, I'll call it the Frasier family story.
01:19:37.397 --> 01:19:37.624
Yes.
01:19:40.590 --> 01:19:47.674
And the whole Cassandra teenager emo thing is so believable.
01:19:47.674 --> 01:19:47.964
Yes.
01:19:48.717 --> 01:19:53.684
Even though it's not, you know, they're using her transformation into a superhuman
01:19:53.684 --> 01:19:57.674
versus just the normal teenage progression.
01:19:57.804 --> 01:20:02.062
thing yeah yeah for sure it's on steroids basically yeah yeah and uh yeah yeah,
01:20:04.424 --> 01:20:11.144
so i mean yes i i had some issues with this episode sure there's some um and
01:20:11.144 --> 01:20:14.659
not not the least of which is uh the fact that,
01:20:15.617 --> 01:20:21.454
uh i expect we will never hear anything about fraser's court-martial and spending
01:20:21.454 --> 01:20:27.104
years in Air Force jail because she violated orders.
01:20:27.104 --> 01:20:29.404
She assaulted an officer.
01:20:31.644 --> 01:20:35.624
She was pointing a gun at a prisoner, threatening to kill them.
01:20:35.624 --> 01:20:40.084
No, we never hear about that. I can tell you as much. We never hear about that.
01:20:40.670 --> 01:20:48.112
No, of course we don't because that doesn't fit what the show is. Yeah, exactly.
01:20:48.344 --> 01:20:52.808
I think in reality, yeah, that would have happened. Well, actually, not sure. I mean...
01:20:55.107 --> 01:21:01.566
There is some leeway in situations like that where people will not press charges
01:21:01.566 --> 01:21:03.757
because they understand the reaction.
01:21:04.854 --> 01:21:07.913
It might be under observation for a while.
01:21:09.636 --> 01:21:12.466
There would be some sort of punitive action.
01:21:12.466 --> 01:21:17.480
For sure, but it might not end in jail. I mean, nobody got really hurt.
01:21:19.593 --> 01:21:20.266
Yet.
01:21:21.032 --> 01:21:21.336
Yeah.
01:21:21.336 --> 01:21:24.876
They did let Nearty go, but that wasn't Janet's decision.
01:21:24.876 --> 01:21:28.776
That was not Janet's decision, right? That was the base commander's decision, so that's different.
01:21:29.711 --> 01:21:29.983
Yeah.
01:21:31.612 --> 01:21:33.349
Yeah, but it's like, yeah, for sure not.
01:21:34.452 --> 01:21:37.575
Yeah, and I agree. This isn't the best episode.
01:21:39.656 --> 01:21:42.256
It was a perfectly fine and entertaining episode.
01:21:42.256 --> 01:21:44.250
Yeah, I thought it was really entertaining.
01:21:45.162 --> 01:21:48.136
And I did like that we got to see more of Cassie's story.
01:21:48.136 --> 01:21:53.196
Yeah, I've always had a soft spot in my heart for Cassie and Sam and Janet. All three.
01:21:53.776 --> 01:21:56.412
All three of my favorites. Just saying.
01:21:57.829 --> 01:21:59.559
Yeah, so...
01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:04.998
And it puts a very typical teenager story, right? This is a typical story.
01:22:05.561 --> 01:22:07.976
But it puts it in a sci-fi context.
01:22:09.125 --> 01:22:11.337
Yeah. Yes, it did.
01:22:15.871 --> 01:22:19.754
And once again, I wish there was more for Teal'c to do.
01:22:21.194 --> 01:22:26.579
Yeah, that's true. I mean, they even took some of the Teal'c wiki and moved
01:22:26.579 --> 01:22:29.699
it to Daniel just so that Daniel is happy and gets his lines.
01:22:29.699 --> 01:22:31.439
Well, Michael Shanks. Yes.
01:22:31.859 --> 01:22:37.063
Yeah, and you know what? And it felt to me like that's exactly why that happened.
01:22:37.243 --> 01:22:38.387
I think so too, yeah.
01:22:39.635 --> 01:22:42.427
Which is just, I mean, that's a crappy move.
01:22:42.613 --> 01:22:50.717
Yep. Well, it's also the reality sometimes of contracts and TV networks and all of that.
01:22:51.814 --> 01:22:55.007
Yeah. And yeah, sucks, but yeah.
01:22:55.140 --> 01:22:55.605
Yeah.
01:22:56.562 --> 01:22:57.956
All right. So Chevron ratings.
01:22:58.728 --> 01:23:03.369
I'm going to give it a six. I think it's a, I think I said, I have really enjoyed
01:23:03.369 --> 01:23:05.039
it. I had a good time watching it.
01:23:05.379 --> 01:23:10.227
A lot of, all of what we said, I mean, on top of a lot of fun,
01:23:10.413 --> 01:23:16.259
Jack comments and, and like good acting, like everybody, like everybody was
01:23:16.599 --> 01:23:17.658
like acting really well.
01:23:18.366 --> 01:23:21.829
And the little plot points, the plot holes here, there were like,
01:23:21.829 --> 01:23:25.065
yeah, the whole near two thing was kind of predictable and whatever. I'm like,
01:23:27.908 --> 01:23:34.044
It's okay. I'll wave that away with the magic writer's wand and just say, it's fine.
01:23:35.835 --> 01:23:43.233
And, I mean, just, yeah, very predictable. Like, so much so that I texted you
01:23:43.512 --> 01:23:47.279
in like two or three sentences the whole rest of the story.
01:23:47.471 --> 01:23:53.575
But also, not every story can be like that. I mean, it's very clearly not an
01:23:53.575 --> 01:23:54.895
expensive one they shot.
01:23:56.683 --> 01:24:02.775
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's obvious that the money for this episode went to acting
01:24:02.775 --> 01:24:07.305
talent versus sets and special effects.
01:24:07.305 --> 01:24:10.475
But even acting talent, not a lot. I mean, it's like, I mean,
01:24:10.475 --> 01:24:13.408
what did we get on top of the people we already know?
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.239
Basically, nobody. It's like, they're all known actors.
01:24:19.735 --> 01:24:25.355
Young actors in two cases, right? So the nurse is showing up a lot anyway,
01:24:25.355 --> 01:24:29.975
and the rest is mostly recurring or main cast. So it's actually,
01:24:29.975 --> 01:24:34.658
as I said, I don't think in total it's an expensive episode to shoot.
01:24:35.088 --> 01:24:37.642
They probably save some money here to use it for others.
01:24:38.875 --> 01:24:43.715
By the way, I just looked up what Heather Yash, she did learning curve,
01:24:43.715 --> 01:24:49.548
foothold, new ground, beneath the surface, okay, and rite of passage.
01:24:51.301 --> 01:24:51.795
Okay.
01:24:51.795 --> 01:24:52.172
Ciao.
01:24:54.197 --> 01:24:57.448
Just so that you know okay okay,
01:24:58.417 --> 01:25:06.575
so so what now for me yeah okay um i'm having difficulty parsing out what my
01:25:06.575 --> 01:25:12.268
rating really is okay do you remember what i rated last week's episode.
01:25:13.045 --> 01:25:17.455
Uh was it a two or one i can look it up give me a second it was it.
01:25:17.455 --> 01:25:20.215
Was i think it was i think it was a two.
01:25:20.215 --> 01:25:22.897
It was a two we both agreed on a two yes.
01:25:23.383 --> 01:25:30.500
Yeah okay okay that's actually really helpful because i couldn't remember how low i had rated it and uh,
01:25:31.185 --> 01:25:35.775
yeah and i'm looking at these episodes like you know like i have the full body
01:25:35.775 --> 01:25:39.219
of everything up to this point yeah and,
01:25:40.427 --> 01:25:49.157
if i had rated that episode higher that would actually bump up my rating on this one and um um,
01:25:50.934 --> 01:25:59.055
so yeah this one it's a six i can easily make a case for it being a five okay,
01:25:59.740 --> 01:26:03.015
but i i'm happy that you're agreeing.
01:26:03.015 --> 01:26:05.335
With me it's a six so i'm not.
01:26:05.335 --> 01:26:05.815
Going to argue.
01:26:05.815 --> 01:26:07.005
Against it i think it is a.
01:26:07.005 --> 01:26:09.125
Good episode i mean not the best ever.
01:26:09.125 --> 01:26:10.218
But it's a good episode.
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:15.815
Yeah it's a good episode i felt like like I wasn't watching it through the whole
01:26:15.815 --> 01:26:20.345
thing being like oh come on and how many times have I told you I've actually
01:26:20.345 --> 01:26:24.467
said out loud oh come on are you kidding me yeah,
01:26:25.305 --> 01:26:26.709
and I didn't do that with this,
01:26:28.729 --> 01:26:35.822
the the stuff that lets me take it to a six it's the whole dynamic between Janet, Sam and Cassie,
01:26:37.767 --> 01:26:42.865
and I agree and I believe that the actress playing Cassie makes,
01:26:43.565 --> 01:26:51.095
the whole emo thing believable versus, oh, we have a melodrama actor who's just
01:26:51.095 --> 01:26:52.918
trying to make us believe.
01:26:53.145 --> 01:26:53.684
Yeah.
01:26:54.444 --> 01:26:55.335
And, yeah.
01:26:55.335 --> 01:26:56.314
Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
01:26:58.275 --> 01:26:59.599
So, yeah, I'll give it a six.
01:27:00.481 --> 01:27:04.630
Really quickly, let's have a look at your predictions. You said it would be
01:27:04.630 --> 01:27:06.100
a two-luck episode. Nope.
01:27:07.140 --> 01:27:07.627
Nope.
01:27:07.900 --> 01:27:12.340
Teeluk and Breitag have to help someone through their rite of passage. Nope.
01:27:13.580 --> 01:27:21.100
Teeluk is not involved at all. And Breitag doesn't show up. It's Teeluk's son. Nope.
01:27:21.980 --> 01:27:22.237
Nope.
01:27:23.280 --> 01:27:26.080
Rite of passage from a boy to a man. Nope.
01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:27.601
Nope.
01:27:28.260 --> 01:27:32.825
From an emo girl to a super girl? I don't know.
01:27:33.446 --> 01:27:38.729
I mean, I was so wrong. But you can look at everything that I did and be like,
01:27:39.356 --> 01:27:45.670
well, I did those things generally in this episode. But no,
I still got it completely wrong.
01:27:45.670 --> 01:27:49.520
But the title also gave that away, kind of. It was a rite of passage.
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I just had the wrong rite of passage.
01:27:51.700 --> 01:27:55.453
Yes, not a lot of options. Well, you didn't consider Kathy could also have one, right?
01:27:56.860 --> 01:27:57.300
I didn't.
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You went to black.
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You know, part of it's because I really want to see Teal, Christopher Judge, doing more.
01:28:05.949 --> 01:28:13.020
Yeah. Yeah. So let's see whether Christopher Judge gets to do more in Beast
01:28:13.020 --> 01:28:15.689
of Burden, because that's the next episode.
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:17.400
Beast of Burden, okay.
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Beast of Burden, written by Peter DeLuise, directed by Martin Wood.
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has a 7.3 on IMDb for whatever that's worth because we've established that's
01:28:30.090 --> 01:28:33.178
kind of worthless info so that's why I'm happy to give you that because,
01:28:34.183 --> 01:28:39.547
yes and let me see German title yeah no.
01:28:42.050 --> 01:28:42.450
Okay.
01:28:43.977 --> 01:28:45.155
Not giving you a German title.
01:28:46.949 --> 01:28:50.117
Well, I guess the title writer's back from their vacation.
01:28:50.557 --> 01:28:56.097
I guess so, yeah. It is actually in Germany quite possible. Maybe it was in
01:28:56.097 --> 01:28:59.540
May and he wasn't, wait, didn't that get released in May? Yeah, it might be.
01:28:59.894 --> 01:29:03.937
Maybe he was on vacation and couldn't, like Easter break or something.
01:29:04.672 --> 01:29:07.870
That takes in Germany two weeks, so couldn't write.
01:29:09.130 --> 01:29:13.896
Yeah, and that fits. All right, so Beast of Burden.
01:29:14.151 --> 01:29:14.354
Yeah.
01:29:15.776 --> 01:29:21.081
Okay, this is an episode where SG-1,
01:29:23.937 --> 01:29:30.087
I'm presuming they end up going off mission because they discover that there's
01:29:30.087 --> 01:29:34.398
a group of people that, because this is how the Gould are,
01:29:36.277 --> 01:29:41.758
are being used as slaves. You know, like deplorable conditions.
01:29:44.498 --> 01:29:52.701
And so they take it upon themselves to free and liberate the slaves.
01:29:55.063 --> 01:30:00.311
And so the slaves in this case are the beasts of burden in the episode.
01:30:00.683 --> 01:30:01.937
Ah, okay.
01:30:04.328 --> 01:30:10.897
Okay, we'll see what that episode is actually about, and if that is exactly
01:30:10.897 --> 01:30:13.146
what you predicted or if it's something else.
01:30:13.721 --> 01:30:20.140
It'll be something else. I'll give you a taste of my logic in a sort of beast of burden. Yeah.
01:30:21.434 --> 01:30:26.207
I don't think it's like they have... It's referring to an actual animal,
01:30:26.207 --> 01:30:28.104
like an oxen as a beast of burden.
01:30:29.157 --> 01:30:35.063
More of a metaphor beast of burden thing. Hence, they need to free people that are in slavery. Yeah.
01:30:36.237 --> 01:30:38.314
Okay. Makes sense.
01:30:40.728 --> 01:30:46.736
Okay, I follow that logic. Good. Written down. Let's see what we figure out.
01:30:46.736 --> 01:30:47.716
Let's see how wrong I am.
01:30:48.036 --> 01:30:49.935
Let's see what we figure out what it is about.
01:30:52.210 --> 01:31:00.449
Yeah. Okay. So with that, Patrice, I think it's time for us to wrap up and head
01:31:00.449 --> 01:31:02.642
back to the couch and watch some more TV. Yep.
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.748
But before we do that, where can people find you?
01:31:06.178 --> 01:31:10.549
Well, I'm with you every week on the Tech Hangout, where we hang out,
01:31:10.549 --> 01:31:15.739
talk about tech news and interesting things and fight over interesting,
01:31:15.739 --> 01:31:18.879
not fight, argue maybe. Let's call it that.
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:23.939
argue about interesting topics like I don't know,
01:31:24.699 --> 01:31:29.159
whether AI should be used whether exams at universities should,
01:31:29.839 --> 01:31:34.527
incorporate AI for example, that was one of the topics we had stuff like that
01:31:34.830 --> 01:31:39.421
and everything I'm doing on my website, thepatrice.com will take you there,
01:31:39.798 --> 01:31:42.974
podcasts, projects social media links, cool things, all of that,
01:31:44.117 --> 01:31:45.545
Awesome So, what about you?
01:31:47.419 --> 01:31:56.519
How about on how about if I just give people the direct link to my merch stuff
01:31:56.519 --> 01:32:00.539
so people can go buy Pride Board shirts and stuff. Yes.
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.539
So that's jeffgamett.com slash merch.
01:32:04.696 --> 01:32:07.465
Easy to remember. jeffgamett.com slash merch.
01:32:08.074 --> 01:32:13.359
There you go. And by the way, someone recently bought,
01:32:15.637 --> 01:32:22.249
a set of pride board mugs and uh they love them so that's awesome perfect,
01:32:23.369 --> 01:32:29.159
oh anyhow okay so then jay gamut on the various social medias and then,
01:32:29.859 --> 01:32:36.069
uh as always i'll pick two podcasts so how about this week chuck joiner's mac
01:32:36.069 --> 01:32:41.475
voices live and the context machine to show that that brian chaffin and i do together.
01:32:44.291 --> 01:32:45.180
Sounds like cool.
01:32:46.131 --> 01:32:50.827
And I was almost going to pick Retro Rewatch, the show that I do with Petrie Sprandamore.
01:32:51.071 --> 01:32:52.615
Yes, that's a good one, too.
01:32:52.841 --> 01:32:58.180
That's a good one, too. All right. So then for us as Retro Rewatch,
01:32:58.780 --> 01:33:02.507
people can find us on the website, which is retrorewatch.com.
01:33:03.006 --> 01:33:08.056
They can send us emails to hello at retrorewatch.com.
01:33:08.781 --> 01:33:18.870
on Mastodon we're retro rewatch at tech hangout dot social and then on blue
01:33:18.870 --> 01:33:23.281
sky we are at retro rewatch dot com,
01:33:24.425 --> 01:33:35.480
did I get all of it yes you know it's easier for me now that the tech hangout podcast is a thing.
01:33:37.080 --> 01:33:37.869
I mean it's harder.
01:33:39.040 --> 01:33:44.597
Well, it's because one of the hangups for me has always been techhangout.social.
01:33:44.841 --> 01:33:45.300
Yes.
01:33:46.240 --> 01:33:49.090
And my mind wants to change it to techsocial.
01:33:49.508 --> 01:33:50.472
Techsocial, yeah.
01:33:52.400 --> 01:33:54.060
Techhangout.social. Yeah.
01:33:56.300 --> 01:33:58.257
All right. So now,
01:34:00.480 --> 01:34:03.545
before we wrap it all up, Patrice, I'm so happy we do this.
01:34:04.067 --> 01:34:08.010
I know I say it a lot, but it's only because it's true. You're an awesome friend,
01:34:08.010 --> 01:34:12.560
and I have so much fun doing this show together.
01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.380
Me too. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I'm always looking forward to it,
01:34:16.380 --> 01:34:17.880
and I miss it when we came to it.
01:34:18.973 --> 01:34:22.323
Me too. Good. So with that,
01:34:23.449 --> 01:34:30.510
I'm going to close the iris, and then I guess go back over to the couch so I
01:34:30.510 --> 01:34:35.941
can watch Beast of Burden and laugh and laugh at how wrong my prediction is.
01:34:36.179 --> 01:34:36.370
Yep.
01:34:37.718 --> 01:34:43.401
So with that, everyone, thank you for joining us. And we'll see you next time.