บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ The Return

wanted to listen to me. 77 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:10.120 It was bad. 78 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:11.360 It was bad. 79 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.240 So you know, when when you jump into something of 80 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:16.519 the unknown, you just really don't know what you're getting too. 81 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.279 But this has really become a huge part of what 82 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:20.560 WSBI is all about. 83 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.360 It's about creating, and I think this is absolually becoming 84 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.800 a lot of what the world is into more now. 85 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.079 So they're kind of getting away from like, you know, 86 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:34.160 the you know, the four letter bad word news and 87 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.279 moving into more of pot listening to podcasts and different 88 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.360 their favorite hosts and people that were on those set 89 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.160 those shows before. So now like for me, honestly, like 90 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.319 I'll be honest, And I talked to them my buddy 91 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.560 about this, and I tell the wife this all the time. 92 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.160 It was like, the only reason why I really like 93 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.480 watch the news nowadays is to watch the weather and 94 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.399 the traffic, because if you live in Northern Virginia, you 95 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:57.240 need both life. 96 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.639 And everything else is nonsense. 97 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.959 Yeah, and uh in the windows pretty much. 98 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:07.079 I believe, I firmly believe that you believe none of 99 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.079 what you hear and only half of what you're eating. 100 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.879 And if you're lucky and and and you. 101 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.399 Make your own opinions and you make you do your 102 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.600 own uh due diligence in finding out what's real and 103 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.920 what isn't real, And it comes from emotion. 104 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.199 Except the traffic, because that's real. We have worse traffic 105 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:25.319 here and then we had in New York. 106 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:28.639 I'm convinced, well, you know what, Uh at the time, 107 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.399 I never looked at the traffic news. 108 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.160 I just got in my car and drove. 109 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.399 And I can't do that. 110 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.480 I can't do that. Now. You could go out and 111 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:42.319 think that there's no traffic. 112 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.959 And like yesterday morning, right, make that turn, and all 113 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:47.920 of a sudden I get yelled at because I let 114 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.240 somebody in the who's in the year lane? 115 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:53.439 Do you come

in there? And she I'm worried about 116 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.519 the cars behind. I'm being very Christian here, the person 117 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.000 going very Christian and. 118 00:05:58.199 --> 00:05:59.959 The rest of we're sticking out on the other. 119 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:05.000 Hand, right, I believe that just happened. 120 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:06.639 Somebody's gonna flip you off the. 121 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.279 Next time you do that, I so like going back 122 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:10.959 to the murching. She hates when I do this. It's like, 123 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:12.720 what are you in the corner? Like my instant like 124 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.279 Afghan Iraq road rage kicks in. It's like do you 125 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.360 not know? Have you not read the book? It is 126 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.120 very front and back left to right. It says how 127 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:22.839 to murder. It's called the Zipper effect. It's not that hard, people, 128 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.600 it's very easy. But you get you can start going 129 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:29.720 on Northern Virginia traffic is like I don't know what 130 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.319 I'm doing. Yeah, And then when the kryptonite starts to fall, 131 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.519 God help us. The rain snow, rain, snow. The first drop, 132 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.600 you would have thought it was a nuclear holocaust. With 133 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:42.560 some drivers around here, it's like, dude. 134 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.040 Really exactly, because you're supposed to go faster. 135 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.879 And break as hard as you can. Don't turn into 136 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:51.639 the into the way you're drifting. I was like, I 137 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:52.000 don't know. 138 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.079 Oh my goodness, Well now we have revealed our drive 139 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:00.720 in this household. 140 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:01.240 We're good. 141 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.199 So what do you guys want to really unveil? 142 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:06.879 You know, Like you said something on your intro that 143 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.720 I thought was really important, especially people in our age 144 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.000 bracket about needing a break. You needed a break, you 145 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:14.040 needed to take a minute. And I know for me, 146 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.560 you know that was always a bad expression. Oh I 147 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.240 needed a break, Like what the hell you need a 148 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.079 break for? Get off your ass, go do some work, 149 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:24.199 figure it out, right. But you needed a break from podcasting? 150 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:25.759 Is you knew I needed a break from what we 151 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:26.639 were doing at work. 152 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:28.040 I needed a break from cooking. 153 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:29.120 You needed a break from cooking. 154 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.680 Exactly, we all need breaks. 155 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:32.600 I needed a break from being alone. 156 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:34.439 Well, yes, that's that's the most important. 157 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:37.800 But because what happens is you become a recluse to 158 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:38.319 your job. 159 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:42.120 You become ten twelve hour days because there's nothing to 160 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.480 come home to but a TV. 161 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.199 And going off. What she's saying, like that is absolutely 162 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:55.839 true that I don't think people realize that job a job. Okay, yes, 163 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.920 a career. It can be people's careers. But for people, 164 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:02.160 like the wife said in our age bracket, most of 165 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:03.759 us have already had our careers. Like I was a 166 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:06.399 twenty year veteran in the United States Army. You've been 167 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.879 working for the government for how long she's had her 168 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.560 own company. You've had your own company. It's more than 169 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.240 It's like what we're doing now, It's like if you 170 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.720 told me I could go home and garden and hunt 171 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.199 and fish take care of the wife of the trophy housing. Dude, 172 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:22.879 I'm all about it. 173 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:23.720 That's the four years. 174 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:27.959 Yeah, husband, I love it because I like I sked 175 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.000 thell En tirement. I said, I'm so excited about him 176 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:33.279 getting ready to prepare for retirement, and he doesn't really 177 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:35.919 think about that. You've spent thirty years with one company 178 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:37.799 and then you've turned around and started another. 179 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:38.799 Whole new career with another. 180 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:41.000 With the organization of the government, right, you get to 181 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.399 the point where when is enough going to be enough? 182 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.919 Hundred person, I would rather have you be a house 183 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.639 hubby and hang around and be happy and do what 184 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.720 you want to do. Then to keep thinking that the 185 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.279 world that you owe him something. You've done your time. 186 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:56.000 Who knows. I'll start my own podcast. 187 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.840 There you go, There you go. 188 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.480 You and Chris can start checking together own ship. 189 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:04.960 Yeah, we got Italians down over the father. 190 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.960 You here can't track now. 191

00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.759 I am just Rabbi mob. 192 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.679 We're just gonna well because your nickname at work is 193 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.720 always father. That's how I was going to do to him. 194 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.039 I just like to for everybody that he is nor 195 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.879 a father in necessity wears a thing around his neck white, 196 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:31.440 nor is he a rabbi that he hate wears a 197 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:37.759 big hat. Okay, everybody's tracking right, go on with your going. 198 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.919 Needing a break is so. And we all worked together 199 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:46.679 at one point or another in the last six years. 200 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.360 We all worked and traveled and and did great things. 201 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.399 And it came to a point where when I left 202 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:57.080 the position working with you guys, I was almost embarrassed 203 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:00.279 to tell people that I needed a break. And I 204 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.120 started having people ask me, oh my god, why did 205 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.080 you leave? And you know, why did you leave your position? 206 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.679 And people aspire to get into where you were, And 207 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.720 I'm like, that's cool, that's great, but I needed a break. 208 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:19.279 I was going to proverbially hurt somebody if I didn't 209 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.960 take that break. And I was talking to a friend 210 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:25.039 of mine who works at the Navy, and she was 211 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.720 saying how she needs a break, but she can't do 212 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:29.399 it because she loves her job and people rely on her. 213 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.759 And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, no, man like 214 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.200 you are in your fifties, you need a break, and 215 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:38.799 tell him. 216 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.440 I used to tell you all the time. Same thing 217 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:45.000 about the army trains keeps going, And honestly, when you're gone, 218 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:46.679 no one really cares. 219 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:47.919 Thank you hellout. 220 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.399 No, they'll be that little minker of someone who misses 221 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.120 you because they relied on you so much, exactly, and 222 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:59.039 they feel that how are they going to function function 223 00:10:59.200 --> 00:10:59.559 without you? 224 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.120 Right? But that goes away relatively quickly. 225 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.840 You're absolutely right that if one thing taught me in 226 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:12.000 the commercial world is that no one's indispensable and everybody. 227 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:14.360 Exactly. 228 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:19.320 It's

almost like if my best way to equate it 229 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:25.120 is like a restaurant, Okay, no matter what, there's another 230 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.679 restaurant you can go try out. You know, there's another 231 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:30.879 place you can always go and sample something else. But 232 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.840 when you're gone and you've left the restaurant, most people 233 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.559 want to remember your name, except if you go to 234 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:39.559 certain restaurant's way too many times, they're like, you, guys, 235 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:40.360 haven't been here in a while. 236 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:43.639 Then you're like, oh, boycot, see how much money you've 237 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:44.440 been spending now. 238 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:49.200 But that analogy is really good because because you go 239 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:53.039 to a restaurant frequently and a chef could leave, the 240 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.519 wait staff could leave, and it becomes mediocre. Ye but 241 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:59.320 you're still married to the fact that this is my 242 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.120 favorite place. Yes, even though I don't like the food anymore. 243 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.720 You know, I'm out of here right and I'm never 244 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:10.000 coming back. So what we do is we stay in 245 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.720 that that that bubble. 246 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.440 Yes, But like I was toning Jen, is that the 247 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.600 other last two weekends ago when we all went out 248 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.639 to brunch and what not? Yes, I told her. When 249 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:21.919 we left, I was like, I'm very sad, and I 250 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.399 was like, we can't go back there because they changed 251 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.480 the menu because I was so looking forward to a 252 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.679 particular item because it was so good. I did, like 253 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:31.720 I literally, like I. 254 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:34.039 Really did. 255 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:37.600 I did a little bit. I mean like I was like, 256 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.639 are you serious? Like, okay, listen to people. 257 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:40.320 Okay. 258 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:41.960 When I got out of the Army, I went to 259 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.039 culinary school in case y'all didn't know, and I did 260 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.080 savory pastry on my own business with the wife, and 261 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.559 you know, I kind of moonlight in other places. But 262 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:53.039 it's very hard to find a serious croaked mado in 263 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:57.759 this you sound, so you know what It's true. It's 264 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:02.799 really true. But a good croake, madam, is just so good. 265 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:04.360 Okay, are you done? 266 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.159 So you know I'm always interested to hear how people 267 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:19.480 are where they are in their careers. Again, you know, 268 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.679 we've all had businesses, we've all had our first careers, 269 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.919 and this is supposed to be what I refer to 270 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.559 as our sunset career, right right out into the wind. 271 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:28.000 Here we go. 272 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.000 Let's just get this go and get it done and 273 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.320 move out. But you become, to your point, Carmine, married 274 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:38.600 to the job. You become emotionally invested. And I just 275 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.080 love the fact that you said you needed a break 276 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.519 and you turned the off switch, the switch to off 277 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:47.279 rather and said I'm taking this break, and it was. 278 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:48.159 For your health. 279 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:51.840 And but it was difficult it because you know, I've 280 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:55.039 been podcasting for almost eight years, and then when you 281 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:58.440 think about having an interview almost three hundred people in 282 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:00.960 the eight years, and amount of work and time and 283 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.759 effort it goes to it. I felt like I was 284 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.879 going to be disappointing too many people. I still have 285 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.600 people reaching out to me every week, Hey, I Cannect, 286 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:10.799 we want to get on your podcast. 287 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:12.200 I got this person that you want I. 288 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.039 Need you to interview. 289 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.519 But nobody thinks about what goes on in the background now. 290 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:18.360 And it wasn't just the podcasting. 291 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:20.200 It was all the other business stuff that I literally 292 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:23.039 was running a full time business, and a lot of 293 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:25.919 people don't realize that even though you have a career, 294 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:27.960 a part of my career in life was about doing 295 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.360 my businesses and taking a break from the business and 296 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:32.279 going back into the work world. 297 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.639 Now that people don't understand, why do you do that? 298 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:37.320 Right? Let me ask you how did that make you feel? 299 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.919 It was at first it was kind of like, you know, 300 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.320 I miss what you know. I really enjoyed working for myself. 301 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.279 I don't have to answer anybody, but there was people that, 302 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:51.320 excuse me, that depended on me, So it's a little

different. 303 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:53.000 Your attitude is very different about what you're doing. 304 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:56.440 But depending on you for work, I mean, you know the. 305 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.039 Paycheck that you know, I'm you know, they me to 306 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:03.519 make sure I'm giving them their money. They needed to survive. 307 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.200 So when you're making those types of decisions, it's you know, 308 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.120 what is really going to be valuable and what isn't 309 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.000 going to be valuable. 310 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.960 But what I needed to do was realize that. 311 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:17.080 I had to take some time off, and then when 312 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.960 you asked me to come back, I struggled for a minute, 313 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.480 but I really did because I was really starting to 314 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.480 rebuild something that I thought was amazing, being able to 315 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.360 do a lot of corpor to corp type business work, 316 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.759 building a brand that was truly coming to fruition. It 317 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.960 was no longer just about helping people write books, helping 318 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.519 people set up podcasts, helping them see their vision. My 319 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:42.159 vision was starting to elevate. But then I was also 320 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:44.799 at the same time worn out. I had been doing 321 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:45.679 this for years. 322 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:47.600 I was starting to just I. 323 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:49.919 Don't want to be here anymore scenario in my mind. 324 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:52.240 It just everything was starting to come to a head. 325 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.519 So taking this break that I took has been beyond 326 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.440 what I thought I could ever be. So in this 327 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:04.159 break time that I have been out for doing your podcasting. 328 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:04.840 Your aha moment came. 329 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.480 My aha moment came. Now I'm a married woman. Never 330 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.279 thought about getting remarried. We're going to and we will 331 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:15.919 have a separate podcast. But it's like everything has changed 332 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:17.720 by seven months. This last seven months of my life 333 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:22.039 has been tremendous. But it's been the best part because 334 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.440 I can have been able to rely not just on 335 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.559 myself and be able to have a partner in life 336 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.600 where I can truly grow with until the day I'm 337 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.159 no longer here and we have Like I said, there 338 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.000 will be another podcast, but it's just understanding your role 339

00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.519 and understanding where you're at in your life. And like say, 340 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.639 I'm in my mid fifties almost sixties, so it's I'm 341 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.600 just truly ready to slow down and I'm there and 342 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:45.960 so doing this again. 343 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.159 I wasn't being forced into it. I decided I really 344 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:51.799 want to get back into it, but on my own terms. Right, 345 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:53.480 there's a choice, and there's a choice. 346 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:58.080 And when at the beginning of this year twenty four, 347 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.240 I had to have a shirt conversation with her about 348 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:06.519 Chris's dishes that I was I was honestly, it came 349 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:11.480 to it for came to fruition because of an incident 350 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.880 that happened in twenty two two. Yeah twenty two was 351 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.279 it twenty two? It was, yeah, twenty two where I 352 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.119 not to like kill the mood, but I went out 353 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.079 and I contemplated doing something really stupid to myself, okay, 354 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.039 and it was doing doing something that I really am 355 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.640 very passionate about, you know, and going out hunting, and 356 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.200 I was like, I'm days a day. But ten years 357 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.119 ago I would have been like I'm going to attempt this. 358 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:42.079 I went home and I told her, and I was like, wow, 359 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:43.920 that is just a ballsy thing to do, to tell 360 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.680 your wife what you were about to do. So I 361 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:48.400 had to go. I started seeing a doc again. But 362 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.079 it got to the beginning of the end of twenty 363 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.759 three and I did a party on my birthday down 364 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:59.200 in a place in Virginia, yep, two and a half 365 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.000 hours away. Drove there, did the party, drove back out 366 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:03.880 home at like two o'clock in the morning, got up, 367 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.640 started unpacked. The next day, got up, started unpacking, cleaning everything, 368 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:09.039 so on and so forth. And then I realized I 369 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.599 was like, I am doing exactly what I was doing 370 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.759 when I was in the army. This is nothing more 371 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.240 than like planning, planning to go to the field for 372 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.279 five six days and coming back and be totally exhausted. 373 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.680 And then what does that do. It's like, I'm missing 374 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:28.440 my time with my wife. So that was my reason 375 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:31.839 for taking a break. But then also, you know, when 376 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.319 I started Christ's Dishes, I was going to culinary school, 377 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.440 I was had a big nine to five job, and 378 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.839 I was starting to try try to run a business, 379 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.200 and it it just drove me into the ground. So 380 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:47.359 now when you said, aha moment, I've had some moments 381 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:50.039 where I'm like, ah, that's great. Ah, oh okay, I 382 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:52.839 could do that and then but it's now I see 383 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.119 where you're at and like the thought process of like 384 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:58.000 having someone to converse with it and make it happen. 385 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:06.240 Like she had her own nine to five routine, and 386 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:08.720 you know, I tried to like we tried to do 387 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:11.160 as much as we could with Chris's dishes. But at 388 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:12.480 the same time, I was like, I know she was 389 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.400 very determined to be, you know, number one at what 390 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:16.920 she did, so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do 391 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.920 a lot of this, Like, oh, she helped as much 392 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:23.440 as possible. And now it's like I have a thought 393 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.160 in my head which I've played with with her out loud, 394 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.079 just bits and pieces here and there, but I want 395 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:34.480 to like this could work in this fashion, but not 396 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.720 take away from the time with her because they probably 397 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.839 could include her and she doesn't know anything about this. 398 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:40.039 So. 399 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.680 Tell me the whole, the whole, the. 400 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:53.440 Whole thing behind this is like you, yeah, that was 401 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.480 my first hitting just so we know, but the whole, 402 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.200 the whole where I was going with this between need 403 00:19:58.240 --> 00:19:59.839 and a break and come back to the aha moment, 404 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.599 Like there is a particular time, especially for people who 405 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.240 have gone. For me, it was from the age of 406 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:08.920 eighteen on the twenty fourth of July nineteen ninety seven, 407 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:10.880 when I had my head shaved, to the thirty first 408 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:14.039 of July twenty seventeen, I was one thousand miles an hour, 409 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.720 And on the August first of twenty seventeen, I was 410 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:20.599 one mile an hour and it was rough. 411 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:23.079 Stopped. 412 00:20:23.160 -->

00:20:25.000 Yeah, it's literally stopped. 413 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.119 Carmen, Are you expecting to hear that hit that one 414 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:27.839 mile per hour? 415 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:29.279 Are you ready for that one mile hour? 416 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.240 I'm decreasing my speed as I go along, are yeah? 417 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:36.000 I seriously, you know, I never thought that. I thought 418 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.759 that before she came into my life. I really thought 419 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.440 that I was going to work till I die, And 420 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:46.200 that was like the stupidest thing to even think about it, right, 421 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:51.519 because because I can never imagine stopping or slowing down, right, 422 00:20:52.039 --> 00:21:00.039 but being married again and being in life again, I 423 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:05.400 love it. It proves the fact that you can decelerate. 424 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.480 You just need a plan to do that because work 425 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:08.839 is not. 426 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.480 As important as it is the relationship. 427 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.559 Because you're not gonna take that well wrong exactly. 428 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:17.079 No matter how much money you save, no matter how 429 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.079 big the house, big, the house. 430 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:21.160 Is, whatever you buy to put in it. When you leave, 431 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:24.640 everything's somebody's gonna be making a decision where it's gonna go. Now. 432 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:27.279 Obviously we got kids. Great, they're gonna get someone, but 433 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:28.400 they're not gonna want everything we have. 434 00:21:28.880 --> 00:21:33.319 But they want us around, right exactly. And I'm now 435 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.160 being a grandpa. I want to be around Luna, and 436 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.359 and I don't want to be worried about oh ship, 437 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.880 I can't take off from work. I'm gonna take off 438 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.240 from work. 439 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:50.079 Yeah. So like that's like going back to what just 440 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:52.160 happened lately with us. It's like I went back to 441 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.839 a new job for the third time, the same at 442 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:01.759 the same place. Really really really it was just to 443 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.519 help somebody out. But like she made a comment and 444 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.000 I've been really thinking about it. And but we we 445 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:09.559 have her and I we have an ad goal and 446 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:15.240 but it's where we work. There is no happiness there, 447 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:21.039 Oh my god, no, no one like like the level 448 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:30.759 of what's the right word, the lack of leadership, well 449 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:34.240 that too. The

mora, the morale is gone. Yeah, it's gone. 450 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:39.640 It's like it's it's so bad that it tasts people 451 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.920 to stand up to other people. So like, I'll give 452 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:46.839 you a really good example. The other day, somebody came 453 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:48.359 in and said, hey, we got to start doing this, 454 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.000 and I was like, uh no, we're. 455 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:51.319 Not doing that. 456 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:53.559 And I just got the look. And now, mind you, 457 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:55.359 I'm on my third day, in the third or fourth 458 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.920 day in the office, and everybody was like, what just happened? 459 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:00.240 Like it was like it was a brand new thing. 460 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.200 You can't say no oh, but the way I said 461 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:09.079 it was abruptly and you guys know that. The face 462 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:11.079 and you guys know that. And it may not sound 463 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:12.880 like it, but I'm a very a man of very 464 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:15.000 few words. But when I say things, I know what 465 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.839 I'm talking about and I will back it up. And 466 00:23:17.960 --> 00:23:21.880 I and I have I'm pointing for the viewers who 467 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:25.599 can't see anything to the wife here is you know, 468 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:28.680 I have my arsenal of tools to back things up. 469 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:30.160 So it was like, hey, we need to do this. 470 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.480 I'll like I started rallying things all like, that's not 471 00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:36.359 my job, that's your supervisor. That's a super government supervisors job, 472 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.279 because that's what they're tasked to do, I'm not doing 473 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:41.920 your job, and I just went on about my business 474 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.519 and everybody was just like, well, okay, so here we go. 475 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.519 It's interesting. People might not realize. So the four of 476 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:50.640 us all worked in the same organization. 477 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:56.880 At one point right in different everybody here has been 478 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.279 a contractor government. 479 00:23:58.759 --> 00:23:59.519 Yes, ask me. 480 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.119 I've never been contracted the whole time. 481 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.079 But so when you left, right, we still carried the 482 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.680 torch to Chris's point, you know, still goes forward. And 483 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.440 then I had my I need a break, and I left, 484 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.839 and you guys are still there, and now Chris is 485 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:15.319 back there. 486 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:17.680 Im I the only one that stuck it out for 487 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:18.440 some reason. 488 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:20.880 And I. 489 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:27.319 Remind me to say this later. Okay, right, it's it's 490 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.599 it's like that ride that is not ended yet and 491 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:38.960 I want it never but we'll talk about that later. 492 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:43.279 It's interesting. So if you look it from the outside, 493 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:45.759 which I've been doing from the outside, looking in, I 494 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.759 realized how toxic I became. And I was. I was 495 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:53.559 so solely focused to make sure that everybody succeeded, and 496 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.119 I never let people, not that I never let I 497 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.759 did let certain people fail with intention, but. 498 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:02.559 With intention. 499 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.759 But when I got to the point where I knew 500 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.720 that I was being let down not by people who 501 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.559 worked with me and not by the team who worked 502 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:17.240 under my direction, but by my leadership. That's when I 503 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.640 was like, I need a break, I need to recaliber myself, 504 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.119 and I need to reconnect to my spouse because we're 505 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.759 not getting any younger. There are more years behind us 506 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.799 that are in front of us. Let's let's be real 507 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.079 and it's quality over quantity at this point. 508 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.319 All right, And. 509 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.960 I'm gonna preface this love you don't want me to 510 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:39.279 kick you. 511 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.720 I love you a lot. You hurt that hard, Okay, okay. 512 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:46.680 But you still have travel on that ship. 513 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:50.559 Twenty twenty four for the Chavas household has probably about 514 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:54.880 been one of the best years we've ever had together, 515 00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:57.839 just because it's like thirty. 516 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.720 Years has that been going on? Jesus? 517 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:06.200 Wow? There, yeah, going on eleven took you this long 518 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:07.119 to have a good year? 519 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:13.720 Well, no, this is what the people are going to 520 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:16.240 But when I'm saying to be eleven years before I'm 521 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.920 happy in my marriage seven years. 522 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:22.240 That's what's gonna happen. 523 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.960 So what I really meant to say was what it 524 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:28.599 happened with is that like there was no go go, go, 525 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.039 go go for anyone else. It was go go, go 526 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:36.799 go for us. Like we we have our

little things 527 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.960 that we do all the time. Like right now we're 528 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:44.440 watching Bizarre Food America with Andrew zimmer zimmer Zim. Sorry 529 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:51.519 I butchered it. But we went clamming one year on 530 00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:56.240 the eastern short of Virginia and she she she found 531 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.599 a place where you drove met a guy had a 532 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.880 couple of I actually paddled to the spot and he'd 533 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:04.960 watched you for like two and a half hours through 534 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.519 the processice how it all works and how to get 535 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.920 the clams. And you picked up your own clams. You 536 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.720 took them back and we actually I made klamling glean 537 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.039 in white wine sauce. It was by far one of 538 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.279 the one of those experiences you're just like, this is awesome, 539 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.240 this is great. Now, going back to my statement about 540 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:26.559 twenty twenty four, that's what this has been like. This 541 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.839 whole year has been exactly like that experiences. 542 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.200 Not just go go go, Yeah exactly exactly. 543 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.839 You guys know, because yeah, we travel for work and 544 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.759 it's not your traveling on a Monday and coming back Tuesday. No, No, 545 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.279 it's you're out Monday, and if it's a good week, 546 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.880 you're coming home Thursday or Friday if you're lucky, right, 547 00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.559 I mean, we're not all heading off to Miami for 548 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:49.519 two weeks. 549 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:54.680 Right, exactly. It's worked well, exactly for some people. 550 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.680 Yeah, but every now and then you got an idiot 551 00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.880 that will decide to bring a captive work that shouldn't bring. 552 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.759 Somebody who decides that they're just not gonna go to 553 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.799 the site and anywhere. 554 00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:11.240 I'm gonna go hang out somewhere else and never show 555 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:12.000 up for work. 556 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:16.799 Exactly to that, you guys independently. 557 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:19.799 It's on my phone. 558 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.359 I look at it every now and again for a laugh. 559 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:28.799 You guys kept going and going and going, and at 560 00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:32.400 some point there was an aha moment where y'all realized 561 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.799 that you wanted to be together and that's amazing. 562 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.440 And then oh, yeah that before you jump over to me, 563 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.880 do I

get to kick you again. We're going to 564 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:45.880 revisit that because I think that is a story that 565 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.039 needs to be told for everyone to hear. 566 00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:51.279 For bringing her back. 567 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:54.720 Remember she left. 568 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.400 Touch on that. So when I think about that, like, yeah, 569 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.319 we won one hundred miles an hour because we had 570 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.759 a mission we had our own mission, like we wanted 571 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.799 to get a certain amount of money in the bank 572 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:13.599 and a certain amount of things done and needed to 573 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.039 rebuild and coping with his PTSD and coping with my 574 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.319 transitions into this life that we lived down here, absolutely 575 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.599 very different, significantly different than what one might be used to. 576 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.680 You made big adjustments also in your personal life, prim 577 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.799 I huge adjustments so to sit back and say, Okay, 578 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.880 I'm in my fifties, right, so I'll be fifty two 579 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.359 in December, and what do I have. 580 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.480 And what do I truly need? 581 00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:47.000 And it wasn't until I looked at him and I 582 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.720 said I need a break. I can't continue to do this. 583 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.880 I would come home a miserable, cantankerous wretch and that's 584 00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:56.319 truly what. 585 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:01.000 I was, and sometimes I was even she worked from home. 586 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.200 Yes, wow, yeah, I mean well yeah, because you had 587 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.039 no peace even when you're at home. No, you were 588 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.039 literally at the point where I know you were working 589 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:09.759 seven days a week. And the reason why I knew 590 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.680 is that you get up on a Monday, you'd see emails, 591 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:16.000 you know, Sunday or Saturday, late in the evening and it's. 592 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:17.759 Just like, what is this worth? 593 00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:21.039 And for you, and I'm sorry, but I will say this, 594 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.599 and you know you can say what it is. But 595 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:28.640 for the organizations that email people on the weekend, shame 596 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.279 on you. Yeah, absolutely shame on you for taking not 597 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:36.480 just for like intruding on your employees or your workers time, 598 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:38.440 but on your own family. 599 00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:40.359 That's more than anything. 600 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:43.039 That's an absolute shameful. 601 00:30:43.400 -->

00:30:46.279 But we live in a society that tells you that 602 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.400 all the person who can outwork the next person is 603 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.559 going to be the one who wins. And at the 604 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.839 end of the day, yeah, you may win for a minute, 605 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.279 but when you die off or when you decide to 606 00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:58.200 walk up there down give like said we were talking earlier, 607 00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:59.920 they don't give a two cents about who you really are, 608 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.400 what you've accomplished, and what you've truly done. And you 609 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.039 can give me a million certificates, it does not change 610 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.359 how I've become or who I've become because of the 611 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.880 situation that you know, they keep you in because they 612 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.000 make you feel like if you don't do this, you're 613 00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.680 not gonna make it here. You got to be elevated there, 614 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.400 you know, tell us what your career is going to be, like, 615 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:21.559 what do you want to be when you want. 616 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:21.799 To grow up. 617 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:24.039 I know what I want to be. I don't need 618 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:25.880 you to tell me how I need to be. And 619 00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:27.920 that's part of the problem, right, And. 620 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.799 Her mine knows I'm that Israel individual will tell you 621 00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:32.880 f off at a minute, I. 622 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.880 Don't have time for your nonsense. 623 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.359 And she'll tell you the best story that when we 624 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.279 were on the call, she said, the look on your face, 625 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:43.119 and I just can't help it. 626 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.359 And one of those individuals that don't have time for 627 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:46.920 the nonsense. I've got work to do. 628 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.240 I want to get it done. I want to get 629 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:50.240 it done in time and manner. I don't need you 630 00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.599 to sit here and play games with me when we're 631 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.400 in a meeting. You know, we got things we need 632 00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.640 to do, right, So, but to kind of go back 633 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.440 to where we're all talking, it's just it's the reality 634 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.519 of what we've become, and we truly understand what it 635 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.119 means to grow up right. And I think that's where 636 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.319 it's really about, is that sometimes we don't sit back 637 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:08.680 and think, you know, you hear that word, well, what 638 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:09.880 do you want to become when you grow

up? I 639 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.680 already know what I am now. I just need for 640 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.279 you to leave me alone, so I can get there. 641 00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:16.920 And it's not that you don't appreciate having a job, 642 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559 because we know without having those jobs or running a 643 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.119 business or whatever the case may be, because you depend 644 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.119 on people for everything. Right, So at the end of 645 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.799 the day, without having these items, you can't live the 646 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.039 way we live. And we've made the choice to live 647 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.480 that we the way we want to live. I can 648 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:33.440 sit around and do nothing all day and get my 649 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:36.880 little government check and be good, but that's not the 650 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:38.079 life I want to live. 651 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.440 So let's be clear that we all worked or worked 652 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.079 or work in the same place, and this is not 653 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:51.079 this discussion is not specific to the government work that 654 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:51.440 we do. 655 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:53.559 It's specific to life in general. 656 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:54.519 Yes, exactly. 657 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.559 Yeah, in the commercial world it's. 658 00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:00.559 The same, and in the government world it's the same. 659 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.000 There's always someone who feels that they know what the 660 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:09.519 direction is. And I've learned to accept change. It's it's 661 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.279 always there, it's constant, and you go with it, and 662 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.799 you have that moment where you say, I told them so, 663 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.039 but they didn't want to listen. But that's that's that 664 00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.519 is something that needs to happen naturally. So I just 665 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.160 wanted to say that, you know, we're not. We're not 666 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:25.559 and it's not. 667 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:28.000 But at the end of the day, people can still relate, right, Yes, 668 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:31.480 somebody is going to relate to every one of our 669 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.920 stories and connect with it because this is the real 670 00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:36.799 world we live in. Society has made it very difficult 671 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.559 to make you feel like you. People become feel like 672 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.720 there are nobody when they because they don't feel like 673 00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:43.759 they've excelled because everybody's sonning. 674 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.279 You have to have it itself. 675 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.200 You have to have exactly it's every day, not a 676 00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:52.119

real housewife or one of those reality TV shows or 677 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.160 socialize you know, yeah. 678 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.160 I mean it's not. I mean reality everything. Like I'm 679 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.680 going off car is like, is you want a real 680 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:04.000 look at like what it means to be nobody and 681 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.920 get paid nothing? Go work in a restaurant mm hmm 682 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.360 bus boy yeah straight, yeah, like twelve dollars an hour 683 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.639 and you know you're paying sixty seventy dollars for a meal. 684 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.480 And it's like, you know, we we we as a society, 685 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.400 have our values and our priorities backwards. 686 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.280 Absolutely absolutely like looking at so let's absolutely we all 687 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.159 call it what it is. 688 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.440 You know, So private sector, my entire life owned multiple businesses, 689 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.800 and I still was pushing myself because I needed to 690 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.719 have the shoes or I wanted to have the watch. 691 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.440 Or the howst you know that persona that we're also, Yeah, 692 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:49.840 the Jones is right, right, Jones. 693 00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:51.400 The Jones is the Smith. 694 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:56.559 We all had it. Thomas Thomas, Cindy Thomas. Sorry, it's 695 00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.039 a running it's a running inside joke between the Chavis family. 696 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.639 You know, when we look at these we need a 697 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:07.440 break moments. It doesn't matter if you are a hairstylist, 698 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.159 if you are a nail tech, if you are a barber, 699 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.800 a cook. The industry's not the point. It's how do 700 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.880 we put ourselves into the position where we say, is 701 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:23.400 what we're doing benefiting us personally and our families and 702 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.920 those that we care about. And I would like to 703 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.199 think that maybe people will have their AHA moments when 704 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.639 they should, and that there is a regardless of what 705 00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:35.760 deity or non deity you believe in, but there is 706 00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:37.400 an energy that. 707 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.079 You get an emotion. 708 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:41.360 So that's how I knew it was for me, is 709 00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.800 that I had this emotion that I felt disconnected in 710 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.480 my life outside of that office, and I knew that 711 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.360 if I wanted to continue to be in a good 712 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.639 place for myself physically, mentally, emotionally, and with my spouse 713 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.559 again also intimately the spouse. 714 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:01.039 You are. 715 00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:04.440 At least this person. 716 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:05.000 Is it nice to you? 717 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.280 I mean, I love. 718 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:11.159 You? 719 00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.000 Know what funny is that? 720 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.280 For all my veterans, for all my veterans out there, 721 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.800 just know I am the veteran? 722 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.320 Do you say that? 723 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:22.199 Like his name? 724 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.360 I don't ever really call him Chris, So it's like 725 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:26.880 when he called me Jen before, It's like, who are 726 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:27.360 you talking to? 727 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:29.440 So I. 728 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.599 People think about their place and their time of what 729 00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.519 they're doing. They say, oh, you know what, maybe I 730 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.000 do need a break, and there's nothing wrong with it. 731 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:41.599 And whether that's a week or. 732 00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.960 Two weeks or change of career like my career shift, 733 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.639 my break and changing my entire thing of what I 734 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.639 was doing. Yeah, it was scary. It's still scary, but 735 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:58.639 at the same time it was needed. And I love 736 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.880 the fact that you did that for yourself when it 737 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.159 came to your podcasting and to your business. Look, I'm 738 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:05.599 not gonna lie to you. I was stoked as all 739 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:07.079 hell when you said you were going to come back, 740 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:11.320 So right on, we're gonna get shit done. But at 741 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.480 the same token that was what was right for you 742 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:18.920 at the time. So huge kudos for that recognition for 743 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:23.119 self awareness, and it also afforded you the ability to 744 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:24.599 to cuff your hobby. 745 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.480 Oh yeah, so let's get let's let's that's a great 746 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:34.079 you know segue. How did that happen? Because I will 747 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.639 I will tell you right now, like from where we were, 748 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.079 where we all have worked at, been working at since 749 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:43.960 I got there in twenty eighteen. 750 00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:44.760 I've known you too. 751 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.159 Yeah, we've all been there a while, so we knew 752 00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.360 each other a long time because we worked together, right, 753 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.960 and but we never really Kim was the person that 754 00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:56.960 came

to who yelled across the aisle. 755 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.960 You people need to get there. You need people need 756 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:02.679 to get your funk out of here because you're making 757 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:05.519 too much noise. It's basically how she came off. 758 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:10.000 She came off straight up bitch and threw people out 759 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.719 of my cube. The dicks of the world right would 760 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:15.960 be there for hours. I said, don't you have a 761 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.039 job to do? But then again I allowed that. 762 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:22.239 To happen, and I never saw her as a bitch 763 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.840 or or person. 764 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.719 I love how you come back around like because my 765 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.119 question is, like, boy, I wonder what happens back to 766 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.360 back in the back room in this house. 767 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.880 But what is the question you really wanted to have 768 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:39.360 this whole? 769 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:42.760 Yeah, I mean, like we've heard the story and we 770 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:46.719 know how it went down for you too, but like, honestly, 771 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:48.920 prior to that, what kind of what led up to it? 772 00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.800 So what led up to it was many very many 773 00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:03.519 months of therapy. Therapy had nothing to do with anything 774 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:07.599 other than work life balance and the ghosts in the 775 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.320 closet and unboxing the closet. Ashley, you know, Ashley, she's perfect, 776 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.400 you know, thank you for turning me on to her shoes, 777 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.760 she was, Yeah, and I. 778 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.199 Didn't, you know, I just want everybody to understand there, 779 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.639 like the statement that he made that Ashley is his therapist. 780 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:26.159 Right. 781 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:30.519 When you share that one. 782 00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.840 But but but yeah, that's a different, different podcast. But 783 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:38.880 but you know, as I I changed my way of 784 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:39.480 looking at. 785 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.119 Things and thinking of things, and it's not what's important 786 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.800 in my life at this point in time. 787 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.320 So along comes she comes back. 788 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:54.239 No big deal. It was just another work relationship. And 789 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.960 then we went out several several. 790 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:04.119 After right, and but not by ourselves, by ourselves, hang 791 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.159 out with other people and saw she saw me in 792 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.280 a different light I saw her because working, you

know, 793 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.320 all you see is the professional bullshit that goes on 794 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.639 and the interaction that goes on you don't see, you know, let. 795 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.239 My hair down, although I don't have any hair, but 796 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.480 I let I feel you, and. 797 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:24.639 And it was a different atmosphere, right, So it says, hey, 798 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.199 this is someone I'd like to spend more time with, 799 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.000 and it became accelerated. Let's put it this way. 800 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.760 So a little subtle difference is about, you know, hey, 801 00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:36.159 can I walk you to your car and go? 802 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.480 But there things you did before we even went out, 803 00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:42.280 Like there was things shown up on my desk. I 804 00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.400 didn't even know coffee would get there, flowers and beyond 805 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.400 my desk. I'm like, I'm asking everybody else with the chick, 806 00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:55.280 I mean some there were subtle things going on. And 807 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:57.000 even prior to that, I remember you telling me that 808 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:58.760 the one day I was fussing at your work with you, 809 00:40:58.840 --> 00:40:59.519 I got in trouble. 810 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:01.320 I got in trouble. The man got in trouble. 811 00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.920 To remember how our leadership would get mad about how 812 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.000 the men would come in dressed yes, yes, yes, and 813 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:08.280 the lumberjack, the. 814 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:13.039 Lumberjack lumberjackson Calas. He dressed like the lumberjack yes, And 815 00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.920 I was like, oh, thank you, thank. 816 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:17.039 You, sir. 817 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.719 May I have another? But the one day he can't. 818 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.599 He's went back to being who he really was and 819 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.840 how he dressed. And I complimented, and I was like, oh, 820 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.840 you need to wear blue more often, and he said 821 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:30.719 that triggered something. 822 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:31.599 That triggered something. 823 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.320 Somebody took the time to not call me a lumberjack 824 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:37.880 but said, hey, blue looks good on you. 825 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.559 You should do you know. 826 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.800 So it was at the compliment there and then then 827 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.119 it was on the fast track. Without going into too 828 00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:54.119 much time with with with what happened. She was in 829 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.199 Maryland visiting her son. Yeah, and I was in New 830 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.840 Jersey visiting my sister, who was a

holiday and I said, 831 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.280 you know, I really like being here, but I want 832 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.559 to get out of here because I want to see Kimberlaine. 833 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.119 She was on our way home and and granted, I'm 834 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.840 five hours away from Virginia and she's too right, and 835 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.440 it's like I must have broke the last speed record 836 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.360 because all of a sudden it was like. 837 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.800 I probably got home. It was definitely a two hour 838 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.760 trip in like thirty minutes later, I was call hey, 839 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.000 I'm back in town. I'm like, yeah, would you do 840 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:35.320 back here? 841 00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:37.760 You know, I'm thinking I'll be late in the afternoon, 842 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.719 no big deal. He's like, I'm here, let me put 843 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.119 my stuff away. I gotta come out and see you. Okay, 844 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:45.679 He's like, you need to talk to you. 845 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:47.079 We knew. 846 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.440 I think I really knew, actually that because it was 847 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:54.000 Thanksgiving last year, right before Thanksgiving last year when we 848 00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:55.519 when you because he kept coming. 849 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.199 Up here to Dumfries right, kept coming out, moving to Dumphries. 850 00:42:58.360 --> 00:42:59.920 Stupid me. I signed a. 851 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:03.000 You couldn't wait. 852 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.079 Because I needed to get out of my place. 853 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:12.400 But it was at the restaurant. 854 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:13.400 It was at Maclas. 855 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:14.519 We're standing in the rain. 856 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.719 It rained so hard the day before Thanksgiving. Because he 857 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.400 was leaving that next day and he called me at work. 858 00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.480 He's like, hey, you want to meet me for dinner. 859 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.480 I'm like sure, I said, but I'm literally like thirty 860 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.400 forty minutes away. I'm trying to get through this traffic. 861 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:28.119 I was running late. 862 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:30.559 Leaving from work and he waited. 863 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:35.639 He waited for me at Montclaire until I got there, 864 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.559 and I was like, okay, this is cool. So we 865 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.920 had dinner, spent I don't know, probably about two hours 866 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.119 in that place, in our the same little booth we 867 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:45.679 like to sit in. And it was the leaving part 868 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:48.400 that is where I realized he's standing in the rain. 869 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.840 I have an umbrella,

but he's buying his car, nothing 870 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.400 over his head, and he's just standing there and he's 871 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.000 looking at me. It's like, are you okay? He's like yeah, 872 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.559 And I said, well, you know, text me you're coming. 873 00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:01.079 Let me know you made it to your sisters, you 874 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.199 know that you're okay. And his remark smart remark as usual, Well, 875 00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.559 he says, I only do that to my girlfriend. I said, well, 876 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.039 you're looking at her okay. 877 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:14.679 Literally, but at. 878 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:16.119 That moment I knew. 879 00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:18.400 You. 880 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.960 No, that was that was two or three weeks later. 881 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.239 You asked me you waited two or three weeks literally. 882 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:27.840 He was such a gentleman, such a gentleman all the 883 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:28.320 way through. 884 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:28.920 Wow. 885 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.800 But yeah, but we we we texted back and forth 886 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.280 a little bit on on Thanksgiving Dad he had that 887 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:35.679 night too. 888 00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:44.880 No, I'm like, no, you're a gentleman about that too. 889 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.559 You asked for everything before. 890 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:56.199 You take, So that's that's the And then well, how 891 00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:00.440 it accelerated. Was was another story. I don't we want 892 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:01.119 to go into it now. 893 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:03.960 We don't have to mean, we'll talk about it again later, 894 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:04.599 but yeah, it was. 895 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.079 It was very quick. Checking out Christmas gifts is how 896 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:08.679 it started. 897 00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:10.639 Got it. 898 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:16.000 He's a good Santa too, Santa's are important. Yeah, he's 899 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:16.960 a Santa all year round. 900 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:17.400 I love it. 901 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:22.760 Santa are saying, wait, hold it up. Hopefully not a 902 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.599 saint just but yeah. 903 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.639 So yeah, there's definitely more in a story, and we'll 904 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:30.239 come back to it. 905 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.639 But yeah, I mean I think in general that we're 906 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.360 all just at that point in Isaac we said, you 907 00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.159 know that we just we want to slow down. 908 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:38.960 We have slowed down. 909 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.079 We're taking each one of us have to take different 910 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.960 steps because we're all kind of in different places as individuals, right, 911 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.360 So that's. 912 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:46.880 A part of it. 913 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.239 Even though you know we're couples and we're married, we 914 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:50.440 still have things. 915 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.639 That we're all individual, Yeah, that we individual like to do, and. 916 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:55.920 We're still trying to work around. I mean even you know, 917 00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.360 for me, nineteen years of being by myself and then 918 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.639 all of a sudden, now I'm remarried again. It's just 919 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:03.519 like whoa, Okay, my thoughts. But you know the best 920 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.920 part about I thought I was gonna really struggle with 921 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.079 having to share for for being after being by myself 922 00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:10.719 all those years. 923 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.519 But it has been the best. It has been so 924 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:15.199 much fun to be able to know I. 925 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.159 Can get up every day and we actually have a 926 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.159 lot of our best conversations when. 927 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.880 And we just sit there and just talk about the 928 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:24.719 craziest it gets. 929 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.119 It gets so stupid at times. 930 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.360 We're just laughing about silly ship and it's really nice 931 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:32.159 because it's like. 932 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.000 And just get and we love the shop. And have 933 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.320 you ever I've never met anybody who loves Costco as much. 934 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:39.960 As he does. 935 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:47.440 Costco grocery shop. Yeah, we had to stop the weekly Costco. 936 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.800 I had to talk about this, okay, because if you're 937 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.960 looking for a wonderful husband and tell you about. 938 00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:57.920 He's gonna your new husband. 939 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.480 There you go there you like like you can do 940 00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.079 you can like go for the over forty crown For 941 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.119 the guys who aren't married yet, like, let me train you. 942 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.599 I'm going to show you how to be the Yeah 943 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.599 there a trophy. Husbands looking for the sophisticated words don't 944 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.639 have to be you don't have to be ripped, yeah, exactly, exactly, 945 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:22.800 flowing hair. 946 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:25.559 These are the things that we win. 947 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.599 You win your wife's respect and adoration and love. 948 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:31.519 What are you looking at me? 949 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.960 I was trying to imagine hair. 950 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.519 There is no there. There is one picture, and that's

951 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.800 me with holding my baby brother and I was like four, 952 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.079 he was like two. It's like flowy, curly hair. Other 953 00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:45.800 than that, we don't know what happened. I ended up 954 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.880 like my father, uh so. 955 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:51.039 But but it's the truth. 956 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.519 It's like, you know, everybody has this perspective about what 957 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.440 they think through, who they're going to marry, what their 958 00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.440 life is going to look like, right, you know, because 959 00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.880 because what you're visualize and see every day, it's about 960 00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:05.039 what society tells you that it's supposed to be like, 961 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.440 or what your family tells you you're supposed to be like, 962 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.960 or some of your friends think you're supposed to who 963 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:11.519 you think you're supposed to be with, or what you're 964 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.280 supposed to be doing. 965 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.440 Right, But the reality is that to have a wonderful 966 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:16.400 husband like I. 967 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:21.360 Have, who cooks, cleans, loves the grocery shop, loves to 968 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.440 go shopping with me. I mean, there's nothing that's in 969 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.719 this house that we haven't done together. And I'm actually 970 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.159 I'm actually going to line dancing and. 971 00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:33.880 Go line dancing with me. 972 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:35.039 Yes, we. 973 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:37.800 Up here at the Clonehouse. 974 00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.360 You know, we live in the old folks community. 975 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:46.800 So I love we know about everything about that comment. 976 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.559 But it's the truth is it's so much fun that 977 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.039 we're really broadening and opening up as a couple doing 978 00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:58.480 things that we have never done before. 979 00:48:58.559 --> 00:48:59.280 The balloon ride. 980 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:01.960 If you had not told us about the balloon ride, 981 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:03.920 that was so fun. 982 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.119 We met some very strange people, yes we did, but 983 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.719 not strange, but no, they were very nice, very nice people. 984 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:11.400 I don't mean strange. 985 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.760 You guys kind of y'all one up to us because like, 986 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.119 she didn't do We didn't do the blue ride. 987 00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:17.079 We did the plane. 988 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.639 We did the biplane ride. And let me tell you, 989 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.039 when you're sitting there, you know, she's sitting on my 990 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.239 lad the guy's behind me, like this is awkward. Okay, 991 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:28.199 So I didn't say that, right. It's a biplane. There's 992 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:31.679 a part of it that separated with the pilot behind me. Yeah, yeah, 993 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:32.280 never mind. 994 00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.199 So what's funnier is that I was sitting with there 995 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.519 with my camera taking pictures of the hot air balloons 996 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:38.760 that were. 997 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.320 Oh god, oh have you never seen her hot air 998 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.199 balloon picture that she took in the plane. 999 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:45.920 It is epic. 1000 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.400 It's like, is by far one of the greatest pictures 1001 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.800 that she even has one of it. One just lifting 1002 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.960 off the ground but you can't see the ground, but 1003 00:49:56.079 --> 00:50:00.000 it looks like it's literally you're like, I could see 1004 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.679 the stitching on this balloon. That's how close. 1005 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:03.440 Oh my gosh, it's gorgeous. 1006 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.119 Did you go in the checkered one, the red, white, blue, 1007 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.440 yellow one, Yes, that's the one we were in. 1008 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.159 That was the one that was tethered and going up 1009 00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:13.519 and yeah, but it was still high up in the ground. 1010 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.960 Oh you didn't know, Oh no, because that was like 1011 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:18.840 three or four miles. 1012 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.719 So they would take take off yeah, and then go. 1013 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.000 Yeah so and then just dropped off and then you 1014 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.920 drove back. Yeah. So that was like they had one 1015 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:33.880 like that were we down by us and you could 1016 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.880 take off and we would just watch this one for 1017 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.360 like hours or like is that we're going down? Like 1018 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:43.639 how far is that out? Just like twenty miles out. 1019 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.880 But the other experience was scary, yeah, because you think 1020 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:49.760 that when you're standing on the ground looking up. You 1021 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:51.800 really think that you're not going up very far. But 1022 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:53.360 when you're actually inside that. 1023 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.320 Balloon, you didn't look down, did you? 1024 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:56.199 Yeah, of course I did. 1025 00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.239 I was taking pictures, you know, and we went to die. 1026 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:02.079 If we fell out, that broke a leg. 1027 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.519 Yeah, you would hurt yourself because you

were really pretty 1028 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.280 far up there and there and then and especially. 1029 00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:13.039 We met this it was just special, very special. 1030 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:13.480 He was. 1031 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.719 Crying, he was he said he was gonna cry. 1032 00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.519 He was almost himself. I was doing some liquid courage 1033 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:23.239 before getting on. 1034 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.360 Yeah, it was very scared. 1035 00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:29.119 Did you all go to the soda ice cream shop 1036 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:29.480 down there? 1037 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:30.679 No, we didn't. 1038 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:35.480 So the antique story. Oh we've seen the anti store. 1039 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.280 We didn't stop and remember yeah there right, you know 1040 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.800 that that road going there was really going there. 1041 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:47.440 She's going just one way. There'll be cars coming towards us. 1042 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.199 Oh yeah, way back on the way back pitch black. 1043 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.960 So we're not stopping there, even if it was open. 1044 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.639 But but what was I going with this? 1045 00:51:57.840 --> 00:51:58.159 I don't know. 1046 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:02.119 You're having a moment. 1047 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.599 It's okay, that is a nice area, Like we we 1048 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:12.360 go down there quite a bit, like, yeah it's beautiful, yeah, tabhanic, Yeah, 1049 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:14.199 that's a cute little area. 1050 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.440 So yeah, well we had a good time come back 1051 00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.280 there again to explore some other things that were going on. 1052 00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.199 But it's definitely it's definitely a different part of the world. 1053 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:27.239 I mean, you get that here. So that was one 1054 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.000 thing that one absolute thing I loved about doing the 1055 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:36.119 dishes is that even from where where we live, right, 1056 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.719 you go ten miles left, ten miles south, ten miles 1057 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.280 twenty miles right, you're in the country and there's some 1058 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:49.480 places back there where you're like, why do people in Virginia. 1059 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:50.239 Not know about these places? 1060 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.039 Like you you, A lot of people don't know where 1061 00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:57.480 they can go to find quality things like just I mean, 1062 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.639 for me, it's food. I mean even today we were 1063 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.960 watching TV show and something about Wagoo beef and uh 1064 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.159 we I know, there is a lady who comes up 1065 00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.119 our way and I got to talking to d because 1066 00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:13.519 she was at our farmer's margat. I was like, I'm 1067 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.719 gonna get a thing of wagoo beef and we're gonna 1068 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:17.360 have it, We're gonna try it, blah blah blah, and 1069 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.360 just we spent thirty minutes talking and I was like, oh, 1070 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:21.639 I'm gonna be late to chemi yea. 1071 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:24.760 Unless you go out to these places, you're in this 1072 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:27.800 little circle and you only stand there, you don't know 1073 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.000 what else is out there, right exactly. 1074 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.400 Yeah, there's definitely a lot of nice stuff around our community, 1075 00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.000 and we've been trying to find different places every week 1076 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.519 if we can, every weekend, and whether it's eating or 1077 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:42.400 you know, whether it's just trying something new and have 1078 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:44.000 realized that. 1079 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:47.079 Did I come unplugging you're kind of. 1080 00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:56.800 Yeah, okay, well that yeah, okay, miss great conversations. Can 1081 00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:57.400 you hear better? 1082 00:53:58.159 --> 00:53:58.360 Yeah? 1083 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.760 But yeah, so the you know, the key is trying 1084 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.679 to do something new in your community. A lot of 1085 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.000 people are so stuck and I just want to be 1086 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.519 in the city, so to speak. And obviously this is 1087 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.119 not the city, DC is the actual state. But there's 1088 00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.880 so many nice things that you can do right here. 1089 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.719 And we are experiencing Manasas because we're close to Manassas 1090 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.519 and then all the other outer things in our community 1091 00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:20.840 and it's it's it's been. 1092 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.079 Fun you guys. 1093 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:24.079 Yeah you get I mean like you has got a 1094 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:26.639 great NASAs has a great downtown. 1095 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:28.199 Absolutely, we've been there. 1096 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:34.679 Yeah, yeah, we even ventured into the over there. 1097 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:34.960 Yeah. 1098 00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:36.159 God, bless you. 1099 00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.679 It's actually growing that they've changed it. 1100 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:43.440 It's becoming a new I guess they have a new 1101 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.079 quarter called the Entertainment Corridor, which. 1102 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.440 Is where we actually place with the go cart in 1103 00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:48.039 the back right. 1104 00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:53.039 Yes, yes, and they're adding on out there. 1105

00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:57.239 Good place that we at, uh burghers at Manassas right, 1106 00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.360 because we were hungry before we go into. 1107 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:06.880 The furnit it was looking specific question had unbelievable burner 1108 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.280 and and and the chilly. 1109 00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.400 That he made gluten free food there too. 1110 00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.239 Really and it's a. 1111 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.960 It's a music bar because they have music venues there. 1112 00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.440 So what will happen is they'll have a band playing. 1113 00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.519 Uh they do music bingo where instead of a bingo 1114 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:26.000 card with numbers, it's it's songs. 1115 00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:27.440 And when they played all right. 1116 00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:28.400 Now, that's pretty cool. 1117 00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.239 Yeah, that's pretty cool. I haven't been there yet, but 1118 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:31.920 we're going to go there. 1119 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.920 You're going to play bingo, getting ready for like seventies music. 1120 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.960 I'm going to tell you something I did bingo when 1121 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.360 I was young, don't theft because I was like the 1122 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.400 youngest person there everything. All these older ladies were there 1123 00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:49.559 and they were fawning all over like. 1124 00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:55.239 You're only doing one card is do you need more 1125 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:55.760 than this? 1126 00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:59.719 Is obviously don't know how to play Bengo because it 1127 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:01.679 just look at this and she's got a table full, 1128 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:02.880 like she got twenty cards. 1129 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.159 I says, I'm having a hard time doing one card. 1130 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.159 So she goes, come on, I'm going to show you. 1131 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:12.280 She goes by five more cards, did you? Oh yeah? 1132 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:13.880 And she was walking off my ship too. 1133 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:20.880 Oh girl was multitasking at they called that number. 1134 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:21.400 You didn't do it. 1135 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.440 I don't even know where I am. 1136 00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:29.239 So she was field checking your ship, is what you're saying. 1137 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.320 She was field checking my stuff. She was checking my homework. 1138 00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.039 Oh my god. 1139 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:34.159 That awesome. 1140 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:36.679 And I was laughing because I thought it was hilarious. 1141 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.760 I didn't care whether I won Bingo or not, just 1142 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:42.920 watching who's got the little troll dolls? Who's got the 1143 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.400 little like voodoo dolls?

1144 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.679 So like wish and then when they when they hit. 1145 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:49.800 I don't know about this. 1146 00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:54.280 I've had an Italian grandmother, I know, and Irish grandmother, 1147 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:55.239 believe me, who smoked. 1148 00:56:56.800 --> 00:56:59.239 I'm still trying to imagine sitting there playing bingo. 1149 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.920 I wasn't allowed to play. I had to sit there 1150 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.519 like I wasn't there saying. 1151 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:15.320 Yes, and they were let's well behind kids because they 1152 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:16.360 were probably beaten. 1153 00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:22.079 Yes, yes, because nowadays it's like, let's take our child 1154 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:27.800 to the winery and over the place. Let me tell you, 1155 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:29.880 my father saw me run around here like this. What 1156 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:32.760 tell you what he'd be like, just inching under his 1157 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:34.880 shirt like I'm gonna take this belt off and this 1158 00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:36.199 child across. 1159 00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.480 To get the look before there was always a spear. 1160 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:48.480 Look at that, and they'll say ours was the snap 1161 00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:52.039 or the whistle. And if you didn't respond to the snap, 1162 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.559 if you and the whistle was heard and you didn't 1163 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:57.199 come a run, you were done. 1164 00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:02.159 We got the speech. It's very simple. Sit there, mind 1165 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.000 your manners, don't act a fool. 1166 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:09.760 Yeah, yeah, that's right here. This part is a whole 1167 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:10.599 different day too. 1168 00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:15.079 But there were two things that uh, my mother was 1169 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.559 a disciplinary. My father was. 1170 00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:19.599 He would yell, but he wasn't a disciplinary. The two 1171 00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.800 things I feared the most. My my mother had two things. 1172 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.039 One is the wooden spoon she stirred the sauce with. 1173 00:58:26.159 --> 00:58:28.239 And they're not made like today's spoons. These were like 1174 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:29.079 oak trees. 1175 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:31.880 And when you got hit with that one, just the 1176 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:32.880 size of an oak tree. 1177 00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:34.119 The other wise is short. 1178 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.400 I would say maybe twelve thirteen inches of the rubber host, 1179 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:38.800 but not the rubber hose you buy today. 1180 00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:43.199 It had the fibers like you couldn't even bend it. 1181 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:43.599 That's how. 1182 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:45.599 And when you got hit with that, you had a welt. 1183 00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:47.280 That was the ship that we used to attached to 1184 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:48.400 the dishwasher. 1185 00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:49.039 In the day. 1186 00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:52.400 Yeah, but nowadays it's like, I'm gonna call the police. 1187 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.280 Was like, shut up, it happened to you, like yeah, 1188 00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:56.719 and it's not. 1189 00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.199 It's the discipline was what they were used to. So 1190 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.320 that's how. There's nothing I mean, for good, there's nothing 1191 00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.000 wrong with that. That's what you're behind us for. 1192 00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:08.800 He's like our parents. Our parents grew up with parents 1193 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.280 who like practically lived in the Great Depression. It's like, really, 1194 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:14.920 you want to talk about abuse, like, suck it up, dude, 1195 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.960 just shut up, like nothing. 1196 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:18.679 You can't imagine. 1197 00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.119 One of my favorite things Chris's dad would say. He'd 1198 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.480 be telling us a story, and you know, Chris, like 1199 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:26.239 I remember that, He's like what did I do? 1200 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:27.519 And his father's like nothing. 1201 00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.360 It was general purpose was to remind you that if 1202 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.199 you were to think about being stupid or act a fool. 1203 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:35.679 I'm gonna he told he told me this one time. 1204 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:41.559 I'm like, what. Of course this also came from the 1205 00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:44.559 guy who's like listen and and this is how I 1206 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:52.440 don't remember what we were talking goes listen unlike your brother, right, 1207 00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:55.079 who can get a ticket on the first two hours 1208 00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.599 of getting his driver's license. I was like, Okay, where 1209 00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:00.480 is this going? I know this goes you the world's 1210 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.000 best drunk driver. I was like, what are you talking about? Man? Yes, 1211 01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.039 you try better drunk that you do normally. 1212 01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:08.280 What what. 1213 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:13.920 That's me? I don't know what it's all about. 1214 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.079 But that's what he told me that you remember that done? 1215 01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:17.480 Yeah, it was terrible. 1216 01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:21.480 So I'm a firm believer that we do and should 1217 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:25.079 always have conversations about today's society and how children are. 1218 01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:29.840 Ye would be a different world, and I'm actually thankful. 1219 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.320 We had no kids at age now like, no, it's 1220 01:00:35.559

--> 01:00:37.760 I wouldn't want a parent in today's then. 1221 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.119 It's a different world today than what we grew up 1222 01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.360 in and what we were accustomed to when we were kids. 1223 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:50.559 And it goes from all the different and we didn't 1224 01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.639 have cell phones back then, we didn't. 1225 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.679 Have we had internet, we had no proof. 1226 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.519 There was no way to provide proof of what happened 1227 01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:05.360 unless there was a bruise, bloodied or you didn't show up. 1228 01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:06.519 That was it, right, that's it. 1229 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.559 But because because when you came home at night, unless 1230 01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:14.440 you had those marketings, yeah, there was no question. You know. 1231 01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:16.199 But we did some stupid stuff. 1232 01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.199 I did some that I mean, even like with bullying. 1233 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:24.559 Like my dad would be like, so what did you do? 1234 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.000 Did you finish it? And that was all he would say. 1235 01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.440 You're like, he said, it's okay, I will not get 1236 01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:34.440 in trouble. Let's do this. Nowadays, it's like I posted 1237 01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.239 this on Instagram on my Twitter feed. What are they 1238 01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:42.440 calling now? It's like really like and deny, deny, Yeah, as. 1239 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:46.239 I was, I was. 1240 01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:50.480 I wasn't even the same state. You're an eight year 1241 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.039 old kid. I know I wasn't in the same state. 1242 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:54.519 Figure it out. 1243 01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:57.800 That's when you look at the birds. You say, you 1244 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.199 was me, are you sure? 1245 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:03.239 Well? Okay, let me let me ask you to this 1246 01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.039 because we've had this conversation because we hear it from 1247 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.599 people at our ship. Y' all know what a furby is. 1248 01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.760 I never had no, no, no, no, no, no, a 1249 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.599 furry furry yeah, different thing. Do you know what a 1250 01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.920 furry is? No, gross, it's a it's a it's a 1251 01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.360 child or an adult who identifies as an animal. I 1252 01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.880 eat like a cat. Where they have to have litter 1253 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:33.320 boxes in schools for these children to utilize this thing today? 1254 01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:36.119 Yeah, so it was just in the news about six 1255 01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:41.079 months ago, was it. It's the teacher was terminated because 1256 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:42.079 she didn't. 1257 01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:43.960 Allow

the child to utilize the litter box. 1258 01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:49.320 Okay, not part of the boys girls room, but to 1259 01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:50.239 drove so. 1260 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:51.920 Drop trow and so. 1261 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.039 So when this child becomes a belt, they gonna let 1262 01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:56.760 letter boxes in the office. 1263 01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:00.119 To let me let me tell you like, but I 1264 01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:01.079 would throw me so. 1265 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.559 I come from a family of educators. My father, after 1266 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:06.760 he got out of the army, he became a teacher. 1267 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.920 My grandmother was a principal, and my mother was a 1268 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:11.880 learning consultant, my aunt. All of them all in the 1269 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.320 education realm. And wasn't my path in life cool grade 1270 01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:18.320 grand But there was one thing they always told me, 1271 01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:23.400 which was the diversity, not ethnically or racially, but just 1272 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.960 the diversity of individuals and children that they come across, 1273 01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:27.760 and the level of involvement from parents. 1274 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:29.119 And I get it. 1275 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.000 Two income families. Maybe I was a latchkey kid, both 1276 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.760 my parents were, but you know what, I wasn't dumb 1277 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.880 enough to get caught doing dumb shit Like there were 1278 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:44.400 boundaries and we knew that. Now we're in a situation 1279 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.880 where these teachers are being expected to not only educate 1280 01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:48.719 the children. 1281 01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:51.039 But to parent them, thank you, And that's the problem. 1282 01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.159 It's a huge issue. But then when they do parent them, 1283 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.280 they're getting terminated. I have to tell you if I 1284 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.639 were that teacher. And this isn't to start a whole 1285 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:02.559 debate about who's a good parent who's not. 1286 01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:04.000 It's about if I am a. 1287 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.360 Teacher and I say to the person to this child, 1288 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:12.159 you will use a restroom, male or female, don't care. 1289 01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.119 You are not gonna, to Carmine's point, drop trou and 1290 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:16.840 squat in. 1291 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:21.000 A box exactly like animal. 1292 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:26.159 And then I'm terminated. Let me tell you, I would 1293 01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.079 be losing my mind on people and the fact that 1294 01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.239 it's okay and then people, well you have to let 1295 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.280 them express themselves. 1296 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.320 No, no, you know in the real world that you 1297 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:38.239 cannot sit and you cannot have a little body. 1298 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:43.400 If somebody walked into our office and decided, hey, I 1299 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.119 need to take a basically a dump, right, because this 1300 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:46.840 is who I am. 1301 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:49.760 The level of expression for someone to be a cat 1302 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:52.760 is just that there was a musical called Cats. 1303 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:53.320 Exactly. 1304 01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:58.000 You're not that good, just down. It's like even the 1305 01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:04.119 like in the parenting thing, like I I remember that 1306 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:06.920 I would get a call or my parents would get 1307 01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.599 a phone call or a landline on that the wall, 1308 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.599 and my mom be looking at me like I gotta 1309 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.960 like a bewildered look on my face. I'm like, uh oh, 1310 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.159 she found out. And it's just like there was no 1311 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:23.960 parenting at school. That teacher called exactly your parents to 1312 01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.360 parents you at home, so it could not be seen 1313 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:28.679 what happened, you know. 1314 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.199 It's that put that the end of the day, the 1315 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:33.880 teachers aren't paid enough as it is, sit there and 1316 01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:35.440 ask them to be the parent too. 1317 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:37.280 Where is your responsibility? 1318 01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:39.800 And then everything I've taught you and I'm parenting you, 1319 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.320 you go right back home to that same environment and 1320 01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:44.760 it's a ship show and we're starting all over again. 1321 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:45.000 Right. 1322 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.400 So that's so that's the problem. That is not our 1323 01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.880 role and as a teacher, that is not their roles 1324 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.360 to be their parents. They're there to teach you the 1325 01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:56.199 everyday basic life things on top of it, you know, 1326 01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.239 escalating up to whatever else it is that you're great 1327 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:01.000 at doing, because we all know everybody learns differently. But 1328 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.800 to come up with these new things of identity. 1329 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.079 I'm just like, really, do we have time for that? 1330 01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.519 I mean, even back some years ago when they were 1331 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:13.400 talking about just even with basic communication in it, there's 1332 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:13.920 a there was. 1333 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.719 Another on my mind, is one

blank basic math? 1334 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.840 No, well, well here's another better one where you can't 1335 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:24.199 even use cursive. They just brought cursive back. Yes, almost 1336 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:28.119 like you can't even sign a contract without doing it 1337 01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:29.000 in the signature. 1338 01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.920 Actually, have you guys seen the meme where this guy 1339 01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.920 like this dad center in front of this door, and 1340 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:35.719 this goes with what we're talking about. He's got like 1341 01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:38.119 a cup of coffee and he said, the kids wanted 1342 01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.199 to do something. I said, I gave him an analog phone, 1343 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.000 and I wrote directions and cursive on how to use 1344 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.119 the analog phone, so on and so forth. And it's 1345 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.559 been five hours since I've heard any noise from them. 1346 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.760 They're still trying to figure it out. It's like, yeah, exactly, 1347 01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.760 it was like, you can't read, you can't write. 1348 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:56.599 I don't know. 1349 01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.840 Yes, I had no idea man to learn. So my 1350 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.599 daughter learned cursive in school and we were someplace and 1351 01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:07.840 somebody said, no, they don't teach it. Oh we were 1352 01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:09.440 at the gym, and I said, what I mean, they 1353 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:11.639 don't teach your kids? How are they signing their name right? 1354 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:12.159 Oh? 1355 01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:14.960 You can use Adobe, use a digital signature. You can 1356 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:16.000 have it done in word. 1357 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:17.159 Are you kidding? 1358 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:20.960 I wrote so when before I came back to the 1359 01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:24.119 to the other side here, I wrote something to one 1360 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:26.159 of one of our eas and I wrote it in 1361 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.079 cursive because I was having a moment. I was like, oh, 1362 01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:29.639 let me see if I can still do it. And 1363 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:31.519 I show it to her and she's like, what does 1364 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.199 I say? How's are we talking about? I don't I 1365 01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:36.599 can't read that. I was like, don't you have a 1366 01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:41.599 college degree? She's like yeah. I was like, when did 1367 01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:43.199 you write cursive? She was like, I've never learned how 1368 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:43.719 to write cursive. 1369 01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:45.000 I was like, I don't know. 1370 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:51.159 What bothers me is that when machines go down started, 1371 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.199 how are you going to

be able to write properly? 1372 01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:56.800 A contract has to be done in a signature format 1373 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.559 right now? Are people going to go I mean even 1374 01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:00.760 to this day, I have a hard time right printing 1375 01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:03.840 because I'm so used to writing in cursive, cursive, right, 1376 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.679 and it's it's just natural for me to do this. 1377 01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:08.400 Go on, father, let's hear it. Bring it. I see you, 1378 01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:09.840 Come on father. 1379 01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.360 It's this is what's gonna happen when that when the 1380 01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:15.400 end of the world comes, there's no Internet and there's 1381 01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:16.439 the banks are done. 1382 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:16.800 And stuff like that. 1383 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:19.960 Is the cursive is not going to help you, right right, 1384 01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:24.600 it's gonna be you gonna put your risk, You're gonna 1385 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.760 make that contract with blood that we're going back to 1386 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:28.279 that time. 1387 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:32.560 Well, so you and I have had this conversation and Jen. 1388 01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:35.640 Knows just like you've cut your risk to assign a 1389 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:36.720 contract that I don't know about. 1390 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:39.239 No, just with humor love you. 1391 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:47.359 Yes, it is uh there there was a study done 1392 01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:52.840 by the Department of Now it's escaping me. But it 1393 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:54.359 has to do it basically has to do with the 1394 01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:57.199 power going down as what it was worth. That of 1395 01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:02.000 our population will cease to exist because they can't do 1396 01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:05.439 simple things to survive, you know. And it goes back 1397 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:10.600 like writing incursive, doing simple math, being able to give 1398 01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:13.960 somebody change without looking at the screen or the monitor 1399 01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.159 that says you must give five nickels and two pennies back, 1400 01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:20.760 or ten dimes and four nickels and one dime and 1401 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.039 one penny back like that. That is people not being 1402 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:24.520 able to do. 1403 01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:26.760 So it's funny that you just said that. I remember 1404 01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:29.800 in grade school where we had to cut out of 1405 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.880 the handout right or you'd pop them out. 1406 01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:38.039 You'd have to make and so they don't do this 1407 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:41.359 demonstrate that you knew how to do subtraction. 1408 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:46.399 Why would they like nowadays, it's like that's all it is, 1409 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:49.880 you know, but there has. 1410 01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:52.560 Been times where the internet will go down and you 1411 01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:53.319 go to the store. 1412 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.119 People just can't not even the store. 1413 01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:57.039 Look what happens when the internet goes down. 1414 01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.399 In our office, they're like, the internet's down. It's like, okay, 1415 01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:05.600 calm down. It's like it will come back. The lights 1416 01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:07.920 are still on, so we're all still safe, like calm. 1417 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.119 But if the lights went out, they'd be freaking out 1418 01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:12.640 and there's the apocalypse going on right now. 1419 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:14.079 My lord, I gotta get home. 1420 01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:15.439 Yeah, I got like. 1421 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.159 I do it. That's scary. It is so true that 1422 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.119 people are so reliant on technology to help like it 1423 01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.359 does It blows my mind that I was at the 1424 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:30.720 supermarket and I handed the woman cash, which I normally 1425 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:31.520 don't carry cash. 1426 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:32.159 I just don't. 1427 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:34.560 And when she was giving me change, I'm like, oh, 1428 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:38.199 you know what, let me give you three pennies. You 1429 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:41.600 would have thought I just took her first born, that 1430 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.319 I was going to slay some dragons, and that she 1431 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:45.439 was being sacrificed. 1432 01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.119 I remember a time, and it's very rare that we 1433 01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:51.319 see this, and I got it. I'm the youngest one 1434 01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:53.239 on the table. But when you walked up to like 1435 01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:57.279 some counter and they had the little jar of pennies 1436 01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.560 where you sly went out, but the other lady is like, 1437 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.159 you gotta dollar. It costs one cent. She's like, swipe 1438 01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.319 it off the top, put it in there. Okay, you're good, darling. 1439 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.600 Like yeah, because you miss those. 1440 01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.279 So much easier because if they have to say, how 1441 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.920 do I dish you out ninety nine? Yeah, god, it 1442 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:14.880 would freaky. 1443 01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:18.960 It's like, I'm surprised they wouldn't put their penny jar 1444 01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:21.680 that they bring there to make life easier on themselves. 1445 01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.600 Yeah, it's we definitely in a different world, but people 1446 01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:28.560 just don't know how to use simple things. 1447 01:11:28.560 -->

01:11:28.920 Anymore. 1448 01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:31.119 And that's the reality. And and even just to think 1449 01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.439 about the basic of learning how to cook a meal. 1450 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:37.760 We're in a generation of people who order. 1451 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:43.119 Out market, you know, just don't know how to get 1452 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:46.239 get up a cook and if they're cooking for a family, 1453 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:48.520 it's hey, I'm going to give you every starchy thing 1454 01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.039 I can possibly think of, because that's or. 1455 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:52.359 To have a box, or to have a. 1456 01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:54.039 Right. 1457 01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:58.039 It's just I think that comes from the instant gratification world. 1458 01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:04.399 That absolutely, and instant gratification is the the the foundation, 1459 01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:06.560 if you will, where we are in society day. Look, 1460 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:09.359 you I want money, I'm not waiting for Monday zero 1461 01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:10.960 eight for to go to the bank. I'm going to 1462 01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:12.760 go to the ATM hoop my card in. 1463 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:16.000 The better part of my bank. 1464 01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:18.319 So I'm feeding the economy. 1465 01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:18.880 Right. 1466 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:20.920 Not only am I getting money out and I get 1467 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.279 everything I want, but I'm paying four dollars to get to. 1468 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:24.119 Do it exactly. 1469 01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:25.960 But there's even the other ones where they've come. 1470 01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.119 Out, like Chime or whatever they call them, where you 1471 01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:30.800 didn't even get paid. So because you don't have no 1472 01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:32.920 money before you get paid, you can get somebody to 1473 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.399 give you money on a little credit card or debit 1474 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:37.720 card ahead of time, five hundred dollars. 1475 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:40.159 I mean all that is like we used to have 1476 01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:45.319 those back in the day. Check cash. Sorry, but now 1477 01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:49.159 that's the thing. 1478 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:53.399 It's so difficult. Oh I we take checks? Actually did 1479 01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:54.279 you take check? Yeah? 1480 01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.159 Because my card wasn't working for some reason, I stopped 1481 01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:01.520 carrying all my cards with me, right right, and yeah, 1482 01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:05.600 I said, okay, you know I'm right now to check. 1483 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:07.439 Oh, I can't take this check because it doesn't have 1484 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:11.279 your address on it in your phone. Uh, you don't 1485 01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:15.159 like my address and phone. That's the stores policies. It's 1486 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:17.039 got to have the address in the phone, so they know. 1487 01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:18.880 Most people don't know what a check is anymore of that, 1488 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:20.560 or can't write it because they don't teach it. 1489 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:25.159 So that was funny. We recently had our an arborist 1490 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:27.399 come and work on our trees. They were trimming up 1491 01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:30.119 the holly bush. But it's a tree, it's huge. And 1492 01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.079 I said to the guy, can I write you a 1493 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:33.680 check or do you want me to pay by credit card? 1494 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:33.800 Like? 1495 01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:34.439 What works for you? 1496 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:35.520 Because well, if you pay by. 1497 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:38.279 Credit card, there's a four percent charge. I'm like, well 1498 01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:40.079 then I'll write you a damn check, right, Can I 1499 01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:42.039 go grab the check book and I'm writing out a 1500 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:45.000 check and we don't write checks often enough, so there, 1501 01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.119 you know, it's in the same So first I got 1502 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.479 to go and open the figure out which safe it's in. Okay, 1503 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.520 it's in this safe. Let me get the check out. 1504 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:52.359 I'm writing it out. 1505 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.520 The reason is we have quite a few. 1506 01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.079 And so then I go to hand the guy in 1507 01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.720 the check and he's reading it and I'm looking at 1508 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:03.319 him like he can't read what the hell I wrote. 1509 01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:04.640 He goes, oh, okay. 1510 01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:09.359 I'm like, you have no idea what this is. And 1511 01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:10.760 I asked him, I said, do you want me to 1512 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:14.119 change the memo to something else because I put the 1513 01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:17.159 well bush they did because they're gonna be coming back 1514 01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:18.760 and doing other work. And he's like, no, I'm sure 1515 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:20.760 it's fine. Yeah, they gotta put that treatment in. 1516 01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:21.800 Okay, that's right. 1517 01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:24.800 Yeah, But it's just sad the world that the basic 1518 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:27.680 everyday things is that he used to survive. Nope, people 1519 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:31.279 no longer know how to utilize those items. So when 1520 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:33.319 we talk about it, it's just it looks like you said, 1521 01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:34.239 look at you like you're crazy. 1522 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:36.600 You got to check who uses checks anymore? 1523 01:14:37.079 --> 01:14:39.920 And you know that's that's that's funny that it's funny 1524

01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:44.680 that you use the word survive, right, And a lot 1525 01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.119 of people who don't know this is like if you 1526 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:52.119 YouTube is crazy and all these platforms are just crazy 1527 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:55.720 because we you can go in there and learn how 1528 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:58.680 to do anything as long as you do like you know, 1529 01:14:58.840 --> 01:14:59.479 some of us. 1530 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:10.840 You go, sorry, the members of this podcast, it has. 1531 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:15.720 To take a bio break. But but it's like you 1532 01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.520 can learn how to do anything on YouTube or whatever 1533 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:20.720 platform you want to do. But it's a matter of 1534 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:22.800 like people applying it. Like, so one thing that we 1535 01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:27.520 do in our house is we use the culinary background 1536 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.920 of me and we do a lot of canny and preserving. 1537 01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.560 And I tell people that it's like, really, you're afraid 1538 01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:39.000 something's gonna happen, something's going to go wrong. It's like, well, 1539 01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.520 first of all, yeah, but the second thing is it's like, 1540 01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:47.159 but I can grow and hunt and fish for whatever 1541 01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:48.800 I want. I can store it. And it's like I 1542 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.560 don't have to go to the store. My store is downstairs, 1543 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:53.760 Like you know, I'm not running out to get all 1544 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:55.840 the toilet paper to eat the bread and everything like that, 1545 01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.800 because my god there's a windstorm or something like that. 1546 01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:01.279 You know, so right, And that's the other things funny 1547 01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:03.359 when people you know we're gonna get a little bad, 1548 01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:05.880 whether don't you ever stock up anything. 1549 01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:08.399 No, we're just gonna go out there and buy everything 1550 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:09.279 all at once. 1551 01:16:09.960 --> 01:16:12.840 She won't let me go to cost you get to 1552 01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:17.279 but but you can never have enough toilet paper and 1553 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.119 scott towels. Never have enough napkins. 1554 01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:21.680 You know why because if you run on the toilet 1555 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:22.319 plut because. 1556 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:26.079 Use napkins, put napkins for what napkins for napkins and 1557 01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:27.119 gets that bad. 1558 01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:28.920 We have the towels in the house. 1559 01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.319 So we've been we've been doing this for a little 1560 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:33.199 very long time where we've done a lot of things 1561 01:16:33.239 --> 01:16:35.159 that cut stuff out of our budget. It's like we 1562 01:16:35.239 --> 01:16:41.039 haven't bought napkins and almost god six years now, seven years. 1563 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.439 I haven't bought a roll of paper towels since then. 1564 01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:45.680 We use regular towels. 1565 01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:46.159 And just wash them. 1566 01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.640 Yeah, just things like that, and it's just like, well, 1567 01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:53.560 you know, you're trying to help yourself. I mean, you 1568 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.119 get close enough to the mic though here you chew 1569 01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:55.640 on the cookie. 1570 01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:56.279 Uh. 1571 01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:02.520 But like this topic is a topic that's very near 1572 01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.119 and dear tomorrow, because I really think that with the 1573 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.560 whole you know, learning curse of people need to get 1574 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:10.600 back to basics. Like even if it's just you know, 1575 01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.439 you pick once every two weeks to maybe go out 1576 01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:18.319 and have a dinner. Is great, but you gotta pick nowadays, 1577 01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:19.680 you gotta pick that one place you want to have 1578 01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:22.560 a nice dinner, not like we're gonna just run over 1579 01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:25.239 here to burg here McDonald's and grass to take it home, like, hey, 1580 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.479 that's dinner, Like that's just even. 1581 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.199 People afford it well, and that's oh them. Don't get 1582 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:36.520 me on the topic of forty Oh I'm too broke. 1583 01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:38.359 We can't you know, we need this, we need that. 1584 01:17:38.680 --> 01:17:40.319 Okay, Well, if you can afford to go out to 1585 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:42.000 eat every day, or you can want to go and 1586 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:47.359 spend ten thousand dollars for a concert ticket, your priorities 1587 01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:48.000 is the problem. 1588 01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.159 It's not because you don't have no damn money, it's 1589 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:53.399 your priorities. Oh, I'm surprised. 1590 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.800 There's a lot of people who will won't even pay 1591 01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.680 their bills and will spend five to ten thousand dollars 1592 01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.439 and a lot of these artists charging tickets. 1593 01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.199 So the other day my son sends me, you know, 1594 01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.600 Lincoln Parks back on tour, which is great my favorite bands, right, 1595 01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:09.479 so I'm. 1596 01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:11.880 Looking to all the all the venues, right, I said, 1597 01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:14.119 I adn't paying five hundred dollars to sit up in 1598 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.239 those bleed

sections. I'll just go put on the new album. 1599 01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:19.239 That's right. 1600 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:24.760 But there are people in the Lincoln Park the club 1601 01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:30.399 that's right at the center stage. Eight thousand dollars. Yes, 1602 01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:31.920 But that's my point. 1603 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:34.520 So when people talk about they don't have no money, no, 1604 01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.520 you have money, but your priorities are going to be 1605 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:43.399 the issue, you know, So those those are the things 1606 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:47.720 that that be the wrong way when when we live. Yeah, yeah, 1607 01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:49.920 people talk about this we don't have enough money for 1608 01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:50.680 We have enough money. 1609 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:52.279 But you got by the most expensive shoes. 1610 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.319 You got cell phones every year to two years? Why 1611 01:18:56.399 --> 01:18:57.880 do you need new cell phone every year? 1612 01:18:58.159 --> 01:18:59.199 Feed the economy eight? 1613 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:01.760 But it took her almost a year and a half 1614 01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:03.600 for me to get me get a new cell phone. 1615 01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:04.920 I was like, what do you need your cell phone? 1616 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.479 It still works? What's the reason that I need. 1617 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.359 Because it wasn't five gay, I don't care, but how 1618 01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:17.039 long did we have our other phones? 1619 01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:19.640 Seven years? Okay, yeah, so come on now. 1620 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:22.239 Yeah, like I was just like you. 1621 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.720 Nothing, I mean it, I can Okay, no, I'll take 1622 01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:29.960 that back. I'll take that back. 1623 01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:32.159 I will tell you because that five G was allowing 1624 01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:33.720 me to contact you when you were in the woods. 1625 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:35.479 Yes, when I go out to the woods and my 1626 01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:36.800 dear stand have. 1627 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:43.000 Those new radios over the place? 1628 01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:46.720 Illegal, different thing, different thing for hunting. You can't do that, 1629 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:49.760 like I can message my wife, but well that's a 1630 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:50.319 different Yeah. 1631 01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:56.359 I want to know because it's so cool. 1632 01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:01.439 Guys over your all the things that we don't need 1633 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:02.399 to worry about right now. 1634 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:07.760 But anyway, let me say this, I know, but nothing. 1635 01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:08.359 You're kicking. 1636 01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:12.560 You know you're kicking if I wanted to kick you 1637 01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:13.239 know you're kicking. 1638 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:14.479 Op. 1639 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:16.600 What I was gonna say it is like for the 1640 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:18.039 first one, I think it has been pretty fun. 1641 01:20:18.359 --> 01:20:19.600 Absolutely like this. 1642 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:24.079 I think that's like at the table, Yeah exactly, it's 1643 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:26.680 just O, god, can you imagine some of the people 1644 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:28.840 around us, like what are they talking about? 1645 01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.239 Oh my god, they're so offensive. 1646 01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:36.760 Well I said, take this and do it in different 1647 01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:40.000 environments and you know, have more conversations, have more fun. 1648 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:43.520 We can invite other people to the conversation as well. God, 1649 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:46.359 you know we will eventually go back to doing live 1650 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:49.960 live again. But yeah, I mean this has been. 1651 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:53.319 So much fun, so much No, yeah, absolutely, thank you. 1652 01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:54.079 For inviting us. 1653 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:56.279 Absolutely, I'm just glad that you guys are willing to 1654 01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:59.199 jump in, and especially because, like you said earlier, this 1655 01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:02.479 is not his thing, but he has something very. 1656 01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:06.840 Absolutely, if I don't. 1657 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:14.760 Like not talking to you, for our future guests on 1658 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.920 this podcast, if you're not getting any comments from Father Peccie, 1659 01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.319 you're not getting any comments from Father Phi. 1660 01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:22.479 That's right. 1661 01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:26.159 She's to take care of take care of all of y'all. 1662 01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:30.399 Great advice. You know, that was father Rabbi passion. 1663 01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:35.399 You know we're gonna get some comments on that one, absolute, 1664 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:36.800 But that's. 1665 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:38.920 What we're here for, is to have some comments there. 1666 01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:42.359 But before we close out, does anybody have any last 1667 01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:45.880 words to go around the room go for I'll. 1668 01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:49.800 Let her says none. Spot. 1669 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.720 I mean, I appreciate that and all. No, this was great, 1670 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:55.479 This was fun. I always love them the four of 1671 01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:58.840 us get together. It's a good time and definitely looking 1672 01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:02.039 forward to us. Some more uncuffed conversations reveal some more 1673 01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:04.640 stuff about life and the pursuit of happiness. 1674 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:11.960 Right, Oh, no, I mean I think I said I 1675 01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.319 think I think I said. I think this

was I 1676 01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:17.399 just want to make sure. Well, no, my notes said 1677 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.920 the first one was the chem I said, this is good, 1678 01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:23.399 don't stop at an hour. Then I got got a 1679 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.000 pee with a smiley face, and then I know, I 1680 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.359 know how Kim is like very time oriented. So it's like, 1681 01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.239 I just want to make sure we don't go like 1682 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:35.319 five six hours, which were probably gonna do the way. Yeah, 1683 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:38.199 so that was I wrote something else of evening. I 1684 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:40.960 don't know why I wrote eve, I don't know. That's 1685 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:42.359 all I got im good, all right. 1686 01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:45.399 The only thing I really wanted to say is we 1687 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.319 talked about a lot of things. But the most important 1688 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:50.000 thing that I wrote down something for is time is valuable. 1689 01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.520 It's something you can never ever get back once you 1690 01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:56.800 waste it. Don't waste time on things that you feel 1691 01:22:56.840 --> 01:23:01.359 are important. Just waste it for the things that are 1692 01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.439 important family, friends, and relationships. 1693 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:06.000 Amen, And that's preach father. 1694 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:08.119 That was good. 1695 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:13.199 Wrote that down. You would not be able to do 1696 01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:13.720 that twice. 1697 01:23:15.199 --> 01:23:16.319 Oh, that was great. 1698 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.039 You might want to keep that for a future podcast 1699 01:23:19.640 --> 01:23:22.520 to like literally keep that you know whenever that that 1700 01:23:22.680 --> 01:23:23.159 was really good. 1701 01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:26.680 I didn't do the when I do the mask, I'll 1702 01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:27.079 do it. 1703 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:30.239 When I start hanging out. 1704 01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:35.920 In the middle of the podcast, Kim and I are 1705 01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.520 looking at each other like there is a flipping ghosts. 1706 01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:42.199 I was like, Father brought him back to life. 1707 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.279 The ghost is in that penguin behind that. I just 1708 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:46.239 want you to know that it. 1709 01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.319 Stares out out right there looking at you. 1710 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:50.960 Well, now it's creepy. 1711 01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:59.920 That thanks guys. O my god, Okay, that's great, that's great. 1712 01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:01.319 Oh my gosh. 1713 01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:05.520 Anyway to get back to the show. All right, So again, 1714 01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:07.800 I really truly thank you all for hanging out with me. 1715 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:09.760 And like I said, we are back. 1716 01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:11.159 I am back. 1717 01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:14.159 I got this amazing crew with me. We will like 1718 01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:16.960 to have more guests. We will be back on Thursdays. 1719 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.079 We're gonna start out slow, you guys, so I know 1720 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.920 you're used to me bringing it out every Thursday a 1721 01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.600 new podcast episode or a live episode. 1722 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.439 We're coming out slow, but we will still be here monthly. 1723 01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:30.520 If of course, if you would like to be a 1724 01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.560 guest on the show and you want to reveal something, 1725 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:35.560 you can reach out to me at Kimberly at WSB 1726 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:38.079 i LC at gmail dot com and of. 1727 01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:40.000 Course if you want more of your resource for success 1728 01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:41.600 or unveiled podcast shows. 1729 01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:45.279 We do take monetary donations to support the podcast, and 1730 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.000 we accept that either through cash app. 1731 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:50.359 I will have the information so you can see it online, 1732 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:51.720 so I'm not gonna read everything out. 1733 01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:54.720 We do have PayPal, good pods, tip jar, or you 1734 01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:57.960 can just go directly to the website at wwwwsbi LC 1735 01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:01.600 dot com. Again, thank you all for listening to us tonight. 1736 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:05.399 We would be back next month. We may have some 1737 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:08.600 more guests, but if not, you will have the same host. 1738 01:25:09.199 --> 01:25:09.920 Just be prepared. 1739 01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:12.800 Make sure you follow us on Ironheart Radio or wherever 1740 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.520 you listen to your podcast. But the until then, enjoy 1741 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:16.199 the rest. 1742 01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:16.600 Of your night. 1743 01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:17.760 You can have a good evening. 1744 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.880 Lateral Bye bye,