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And then the last one is, for Spanish specifically, is Dirty Spanish.
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Or Dirty...
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I think it's Dirty Spanish.
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It's not what you think, Dirty.
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My face.
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I'm just like staring at you.
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What are you learning, Clint?
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I may have gotten that name wrong, but it's not what you're thinking.
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This is World Schooling Q&A.
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I'm Astrid, creator of The Wandering Daughter.
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As a traveling family, we've spent four years traveling full-time to over 18 countries and six continents.
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Wherever we go, we try to learn as much as we can about the countries and cultures we visit.
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While we didn't coin the term, we like to call this world schooling, using the world as our classroom.
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Each week, my husband Clint and I will answer one question about world schooling and share our experiences of traveling the world with our kids.
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Ready to get started?
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Great!
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Let's dive in.
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All right.
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So this week we are answering the question, how do I teach my kids languages while traveling?
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Great.
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Um, why should we?
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Why should we?
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Before we answer that, why is it important to learn languages?
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Um, I think it's important because it helps you show respect to the cultures that you visit.
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I mean, there's something, you know, like I, I hate
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coming across as an arrogant tourist and be like, what?
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You don't speak English?
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Everybody should speak English.
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Or you don't speak my language?
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Everybody should speak my language.
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There's humility in learning a different language and taking time to understand, even
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sentence structures and grammar, and I think it provides insight into how that culture is too.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And I think
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It's an extension of empathy and respect.
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I mean, like learning, attempting to learn someone else's language and trying to speak it shows that you are willing to put effort into trying to understand or trying to at least meet them on their grounds.
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regardless if they speak English or not.
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I think it just shows a tremendous amount of respect and empathy towards their experience.
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Exactly.
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Cool.
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Well, now we established why.
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What are some ways we can teach our kids?
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One way is through language learning apps.
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I think that's an easy one.
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What's your favorite language learning app?
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I mean, I love Duolingo.
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I know that's controversial to some people, but I think Duolingo, for me, works the absolutely best.
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I think for our family, it works the best.
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It gives a great amount of vocabulary versus sentence structure.
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I wish it did grammar.
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It really does not do much grammar, which is frustrating.
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Or it does, but it doesn't really explain why it does the grammar.
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So that's the part that I think,
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other apps or other ways to supplement it comes in handy, but just from the grammar or just from the vocabulary and the sentence structure and the breadth of what you're discussing, I think it's helped probably the biggest over long term.
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What is your current streak on Duolingo?
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I think it's like,
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Almost 1,500 days, something like that.
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That's like three years.
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He's been doing Duolingo consistently for three years.
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Five years.
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Mine is zero.
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Four years.
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Yeah, four years.
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I'm not very...
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I like using Duolingo too, but I go into these bursts.
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When we're gearing up to go to a new country, I'm like, okay, I will learn the language there.
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We're going to go
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We're gonna go visit Indonesia, okay?
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I'm gonna spend, you know, five minutes doing Indonesian.
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Or like, we're gonna go to Japan, okay?
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I'll spend like five minutes each day doing Japanese.
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And then once we're done with the trip, I'm like...
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Yes, but to be fair, you also
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Really well two additional languages on top of English and pretty decently a third language a fourth language I only speak pretty decently a second language.
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So you must be doing something correct because you also are very Language.
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Well, okay.
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So just just to like give give some context I
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English is my, you know, well, technically not my first language, but like English is the language I speak the best.
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And then I also can speak Indonesian, Spanish, and French.
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I feel like they're all about even level of medium or intermediate proficiency.
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All right, that's fair.
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Maybe intermediate level.
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I think my Spanish is better than my other languages now.
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I want to mention a couple other apps.
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Babbel is also one that I have tried in the past.
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Was there Busuu?
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Babbel is really great because it allows you to potentially do speaking one-on-one with tutors and things like that.
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Is it Busuu?
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Busuu is good.
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Busuu is one.
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Then Lingopie is one that I've tried for Spanish too.
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I like Lingopie because it connects with movies.
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You can watch Spanish language movies and then see the subtitles too and learn the language that way.
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Yeah, there's a couple more too that I like.
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Lyrics training is a great one.
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It basically takes the language you want to learn and then shows you YouTube videos of that, but then has like a gaming mode where you have to type in the lyrics for it.
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So that's a really good one for listening comprehension.
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Bilingual is a great one for reading.
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It's basically all reading.
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So you pick the language you want and there's different levels of reading.
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that you can do.
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Those both are fantastic.
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There's JumpSpeak.
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JumpSpeak is really good because JumpSpeak does more situational type of language learning, which is cool.
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And then the last one is, for Spanish specifically, is Dirty Spanish or Dirty, I think it's Dirty Spanish.
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It's not what you think, Dirty.
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My face, I'm just like staring at you.
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What are you learning, Clint?
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I may have gotten that name wrong, but it's not what you're thinking.
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No, it is just a great course on very situational Spanish.
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So it's like checking into a hotel, eating at a restaurant, and it's conversation style language.
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An app on the topic of Spanish, and we're saying this because we've spent a lot of time in Spanish-speaking countries, so that's like the language that we're trying to learn, is Conjugato, which is focusing on conjugations, but so you are learning verbs and then it has like different drills you can do for learning like the conjugations for those verbs.
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That's a great one.
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We didn't have listed here, but along with apps, any podcasts you want to mention?
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Oh, my gosh.
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That's the other thing that I like is, you know, before a trip, I'll listen to podcasts in that in like language specific podcasts for that language that we're going to learn or that we're learning.
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To me, it's helpful to just like familiarize yourself with the sound and like, I'll listen to, um, there's one that's called like speak like a Mexican and it's like Spanish, uh, Spanish focused podcast.
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Uh, there's a French one called little talks, um, which is French podcasts.
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And then in, for Indonesian, I really liked the podcast, um,
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bahasa indonesia bersama winda and so there it's so uh it's just fun to like just listen to it because then they'll they'll use like the vernac you know the local vernacular like the local um
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idioms and stuff too, and usually the speed is that they're talking is a little bit slower because they're trying to enunciate like the words and it just helps, again, it just helps you with like your listening comprehension.
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I think the other one I want to mention is Mexican Fluency Podcast.
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Oh, yes.
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That one's great.
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It's a guy from the United States that spent a lot of time in Mexico, ended up marrying a woman from Mexico.
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Yeah.
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And they do a podcast together.
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So his, if you're new to Spanish and you need to practice your listening comprehension, that's a great one as well.
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So other than apps, what are some other ways that we can learn?
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Um, well, there's also, you know, like books you can read, uh, if you're, so what I like to do is actually like borrow picture books from the library of like kids books in Spanish, or, um, if you're learning French, you can probably find kids books in French.
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Other languages might be a little bit harder because, you know, uh, whatever, but
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Amazon is great because it's got a wealth of books you can borrow.
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Most of them are Kindle too, so travel friendly.
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I like getting those illustrated dictionaries.
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I've got one for Indonesian and then one for Tagalog too, where it's just objects and then it has what the word is.
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And then language books, language learning books are sometimes nice if you're if you are the type of person that wants that like explanation, the grammar, right?
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Yeah, that's the grammar part, which I think once you reach a certain level, this is like what where I am with Spanish and Indonesian.
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I want to know the grammar behind it.
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I don't want to just memorize vocabulary.
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How about you?
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What are some other ways that you learn?
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Well, I like other than books.
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One thing that we do as a family that I love is in person classes.
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So depending on how long we're staying someplace, we will try to sign up for in person classes.
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And not virtual classes.
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Do we like doing in person class having like a either like a tutor or like a teacher teaching us
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Yeah, we've done this in Indonesia.
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We've done it in Spain.
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We've done it in Mexico.
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It's just a great way.
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It's so cool on so many levels.
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Like, yes, you're learning the language.
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It's an in-person thing.
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So I feel like that helps just kind of, because usually it's conversation based.
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Then you can ask them in person about like the grammar of it or things like that.
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But the other cool thing is then you actually start learning more about the local culture too, because you're just having these conversations with the tutor and then they're like, their examples tend to be about things that are happening around them or things.
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So those have always been really great experiences.
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Yeah, and actually, you know, we talked in previous episodes about like, the importance of stability and creating like a sense of security in your kids.
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And having like a routine of, we're going to go to language class every Tuesday and Thursday for the next month, like that actually creates, like having those, having that schedule time creates like routine and stability in this context.
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And I think that is helpful for the kids as well.
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And then it becomes like a little bit of ritual.
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When we were living in Spain for three months, we had a tutor for probably like two months of that, because there was like, you know, a couple of weeks before and after where we didn't use her, but we had a tutor and it became like our routine every day or, you know, twice a week, or was it twice a week or once a week?
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Twice a week.
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Yeah, twice a week we would go and take lessons from her.
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The kids would go first and then we would go next.
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And then afterwards, we'd go and eat pizza at the pizza place next to it.
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And so that was like our biweekly routine.
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And it felt like, you know, it just it felt more or different than if we were just like in that place, just traveling and doing sightseeing stuff.
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It was like, oh, no, we're living here.
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This is our our weekly activity.
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It was nice.
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It was like a 20 minute walk to get there.
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And so, yeah, I mean,
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walking along the Mediterranean to get there.
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And then in Indonesia, we had a similar thing where we were taking lessons at a local language school.
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And at that time, the kids had their own teacher, and then Clint had his own teacher, and I had my own teacher, but we scheduled it all at the same time.
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And then we'd have like lunch afterwards and go home, but it was like, okay, did you guys do your, your language homework that was assigned to you for the week or something like that?
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And yeah, it was, it was good.
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So if you can have, if you can, uh, like arrange that in your travel plans, having like local classes is helpful.
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So other than kind of structured learning types of things, apps and classes and stuff like that, what are some other ways that we have encouraged language, either language learning or language enforcement?
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I think, well, I want to talk about like just listening to music or watching movies, things like that.
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I think watching them in another, like watching movies in another language, and then putting like the subtitles is like helpful.
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Or accidentally going theater and watching it in the wrong language.
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Yeah, we were in Spain, no, Mexico, and we thought we got the subtitled version, or like the English, it was, but that one was different because it was like an American movie and then they dubbed it in the other language.
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Yes, yeah.
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And so we were thinking that it was the subtitles in the other language, but we went to the dubbed version and so we sat through a whole movie in Spanish.
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Yeah, we did okay, understanding what happened in the movie, but yeah, that's a great one.
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I wanted to mention that just restaurants, I think we mentioned in a previous episode, but just like restaurants and shopping, those are great ways to enforce in a very comfortable setting too, because the menu is written out for you, so you just have to know some key words.
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But the kids have really, and especially the last few years, really have,
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Enjoyed being able to order their own food or ask where the bathroom is or say thank you or please.
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Yep So those are those are great ways In fact, I think like it's important before you go to a country to at least learn some like basic phrases You know, yeah Hello.
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Thank you, please some numbers yeah, and You know
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Other things like that, like I'd like to order or how much does this cost?
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So I have, um, on my website, I have two like phrase books you can sign up for is a Spanish phrase book and a Indonesian phrase book.
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And they're just like 20, 20 or 21 essential phrases, uh, for traveling in like those speaking countries, those language speaking countries.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Any other ones you can think of?
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The last thing, I guess we could mention taking tours.
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I don't know if necessarily it's about like language acquisition, but more just like cultural understanding, right?
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I don't know.
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For me, it was language.
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Because some of the ones we would take were like Spanish only speaking ones.
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And so you have to really like tune in and try to pick out keywords of what they're saying.
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Yeah, what were some of the Spanish speaking tours that you that we did that you recall?
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Well, the two that come to mind specifically is there was one in San Miguel de Allende in Mexico.
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And that one was just a trolley tour around around the city area.
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And it was all in Spanish.
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So we were like, just trying to we were pretty new to Spanish at that point.
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So we I don't know if we caught a lot of it.
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But then the other one was this like,
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Troubadour, I think it was a Troubadour tour in Guanajuato City.
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So that is like these musicians or these Troubadours that at night, they'll do a tour around the city.
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I absolutely highly, highly recommend that tour.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah.
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But that
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There are some of them that speak English, but we were in one that spoke only Spanish.
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I think we were able to pick up a little bit more from that one, but we were still also very new to Spanish.
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So at that point, I think if we did that again, we'd probably pick up more.
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Yeah.
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I want to add to the Camera Obscura in Seville.
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There's a tour that they do, but then
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they offer an English speaking tour, but only like one day a week, and it wasn't the day that we were there.
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And so they're like, well, we've got a Spanish speaking one.
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We're like, okay, let's do it.
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And by then, you know, we'd been, we'd been in Spain for a while, and we were taking our language classes with the tutor.
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And so I was like, both of us were kind of comfortable with or confident or
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more confident with our Spanish and I was so proud I even asked a question while we were on the tour.
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I guess this is just to say like we can end with the advice of like don't be afraid to
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be in those situations where you don't know the language or where it's not spoken.
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The language that you're comfortable with is not spoken because that really helps.
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It forces you to have to practice your language skills.
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Yeah.
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And don't be deterred.
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Sometimes you're going to have egg on your face.
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My favorite story is like in Vietnam, we just could not speak the language.
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We tried so hard.
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Yeah.
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We could not speak the language.
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And I remember we were practicing.
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There was an older lady.
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We may have said the story already, but there was an older lady that lived in this family compound we were in.
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And so every day she would be out selling tea.
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And so we practiced and practiced.
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in Astrid practice and practice trying to say, um, how are you?
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Yeah.
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Uh, and so one day she like works up the nerve to actually ask her.
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She just like looked at her blankly.
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Yeah.
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And she's like, what are you trying to say?
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And there was a patron that was, um,
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next to her.
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And I think he understood what I was trying to say.
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So he's like, Oh, she's saying blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Or like, she's saying, How are you?
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And he's saying this in Vietnamese.
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And then the lady is like, Oh, yeah, I'm fine.
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I was just like, Okay, I'm sorry.
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I was trying to be I was trying to be friendly and polite.
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But you know, I mean, that's the thing, like, that, that's that, like, oh, she recognized you were trying.
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Yeah.
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She recognized that, like, you were doing that.
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You know, she was, she was kind of a cranky old lady, but in a sweet, in a sweet, cranky grandma kind of way.
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But, you know, it was, it was a good memory.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Anything else?
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Nope, I think that's it.
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All right.
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It sounds good.
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And then she yelled at us for not wearing masks.
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Well, that's all for today.
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