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I'm Grace
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Beverley and welcome back to Working Hard, the
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podcast-shaped guidebook on how to improve your own life and
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achieve what you actually dreamed of doing. Because life's too
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short for boring podcasts and bad advice. What is up, guys,
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and welcome back to Working Hard. If you have been
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following the series so far, you will know that we
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are coming to the end of part one, where we've
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been getting really, really clear on what your ideal life,
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like the one you are working towards, actually looks like
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and what your plan looks like in order to be
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able to get there. So today we're going to be
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moving into the mechanics of how to build routine and
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a plan that actually works, or in fact, how to
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build any plan with a specific long-term horizon. Long-term plans
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can actually be quite controversial. And when we were planning
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this episode, I was a little hesitant to give a
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number on how long I think you should plan ahead
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when you're reverse engineering your life. Because I think it's
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so personal to everyone. For some people, a five-year plan
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is the perfect timeline to look ahead. And for others,
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it is far too long and there are far too
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many variables for it to actually make sense. So essentially
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that dichotomy is exactly what today's episode is about. And
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the person I wanted to bring in to talk about
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this is someone who can hold the nuance of it
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and still give you a great actionable answer. Like we
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can all poo-poo the five-year plan as much as we want,
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but what should we actually be doing? How do we
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build a plan to build our ideal life?
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Dr.
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Rangan Chatterjee is one of the most influential doctors in
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the UK and he's dedicated his career to working out
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how we actually live well. So what he's going to
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do in this episode is he's going to walk us
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through why most five-year plans don't work. So the specific
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traps people fall into and then
also the practical mechanics
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of reverse engineering a vision, that vision that we've kind
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of developed, all the way back to what you actually
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do this week because I think that is so important.
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And as always with these episodes, episodes rongan has given
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me his top planning frameworks for your homework for the
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working hard newsletter this week so that means you can
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actually action what we talked about in this episode in
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a very practical way so that you know you're actually
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learning things you're not just listening to them on your
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commute and never coming back to it again and again
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because we like to create actual change over on this
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side of the internet so i'll put the link for
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the newsletter in the description box i hope you enjoy
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making the plan for that ideal life that you will
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be very much achieving once you put this all into
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action and i'll leave you with dr rongan.
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Chastity So there are some really common mistakes that people
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make when it comes to planning out their lives. And
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this episode is for anyone looking to reverse engineer their future,
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but in a healthy, balanced way without the overlap and burnout.
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Why might you want to listen to me? Well, of course,
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Grace gave me a really lovely intro. But the thing
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I want to sort of focus on is the fact
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that I have been a medical doctor for over 25
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years now. I have seen tens of thousands of patients
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over the course of my career. My podcast... has been
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going for over nine years. I've spoken to some of
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the most influential voices around the world when it comes
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to health, happiness, mindset, longevity, productivity, whatever you might want.
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And I've helped many people change their lives, not just
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in the short term, but for good. So I feel
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I have a lot of experience trying to do this
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with people and That experience is what I'm hoping to
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offer you today. If you have ever made a plan
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that you were genuinely excited about, but then found that
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you were unable to stick to it, this is the
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episode for you. Okay, so as Grace mentioned at the start,
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should we even be making five-year plans? well I think
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that's something for us all to reflect on I mean
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for me I would say possibly not I think it's
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perhaps a little bit too far away in the future
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but I also have to acknowledge that for some people
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it seems to work okay and that's the kind of
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nuance I hope you get from me throughout this episode
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I don't believe in one size fits all approaches because
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having seen so many patients over the years I've realised
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that There's no one right approach that works for everyone.
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So let's assume that you do want to make a
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plan for your future. Whether it be a one-year plan
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or a five-year plan or even a 10-year plan, I
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would say that the same principles apply. Okay, so first
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of all, have a think about what you want your
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plan to relate to. Is it your health? your well-being?
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Is it your mindset, your relationships, your career? Is it
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to get your hobbies into your life in a much
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more sustainable way? You know, whatever it is, that's up
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to you. But these core principles I'm going to go
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through work no matter what the topic is, okay? So
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let me start off with these traps that I have
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seen many people fall into. And truth be told, I've
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fallen into myself in the past, okay? Number one, They
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plan too far ahead, right? Let's say you made a
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five-year plan. Here's the potential issue. You don't know who
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you're going to be in five years, right? I know
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that sounds quite obvious, but through life, with each day, week, month,
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and year, we start to change. As you try and
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put a plan into action, in doing the actions that
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you said you were going to do, you start to
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change as a person. So one of the traps is
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they plan too far ahead and they get very, very
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rigid as to sticking to a plan that they made.
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But one year into your five-year plan, you might realize that, oh,
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Maybe what I want is different now. And that goes
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into my second trap, which is we're too rigid, right?
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As I just mentioned, we make the plan based on
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what we think we want at this current moment in time.
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And then we just, we know we have to stick
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to it because I said that's what I was going
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to do. But any plan for any goal in your
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life needs constant reassessment and tweaking, okay? So these first
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two traps kind of relate to each other. We plan
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too far ahead and then we get too rigid. The
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third trap I often see people fall into is that
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they are overly reliant on motivation. Now, motivation does not last.
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In fact, you potentially could fall into that after this episode.
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On the assumption that you like what I have to say,
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that you find it inspiring and you think, yeah, I'm
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going to go and do this. your motivation at the
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end of this episode may be actually quite high. And
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so you make your plan based on high levels of motivation.
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But we know from the scientific research that motivation goes
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up and motivation goes down. So you actually have to
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plan for the fact that your motivation will drop. And
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when I talk about the practical things that you can do,
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I'll cover this in a bit more detail. But for now,
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the third trap is that we're often overly reliant on motivation.
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The fourth trap is It's an all or nothing mindset.
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Certainly in my job as a doctor, I've seen this
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when it comes to health so many times, particularly in January.
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You may have experienced this yourself as well. This idea
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that I'm either on the plan or I'm not on
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the plan. This sort of black and white thinking. So
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often I would see this and I used to do this.
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two weeks in January, I'd be locked in and
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what I wanted to do. Doing it every day. Then
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I'd miss a day and I'd beat myself up. the
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negative inner voice would start in the past and before
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I knew it, the plan was something that I used
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to do. Okay, so this all or nothing mindset is
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something you really need to get away from because no
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plan really works like that because life will get in
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the way and that's okay, but we need to plan
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for that. And the fifth and final trap I wanted
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to mention Before I get into what you can actually
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do is the fact that we're too focused often on
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the outcome. Okay, we're too focused on the future and
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that takes us out of the present. but you're only
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ever in the present, right? You're planning something for the future,
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but the future only currently exists in your mind. This
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is a really, really important point. And it will become
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quite clear when we get to the practical application very shortly.
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But the way I see goals now, really the goal
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is there to be a compass. It points you in
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the right direction. right? So you're coming into this episode
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and you're thinking about a plan that you want in
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your life for a particular goal. Okay, let's think about that.
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Think about it, imagine what it is, and then you
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gotta put the goal out of your mind and start
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to focus on the process. And honestly, this is what
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the best athletes in the world will do. This is
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what people who make sustainable health change will do. This
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is how I live my life these days. Honestly, I
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used to be very goal-focused, very outcome-focused, and it was,
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it didn't really help me. And these days, I find
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it very, very easy to lock into the behaviors that
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I want, whether it's on my health, my mindset, my career,
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because I'm not focused on the outcome in the future.
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I'm focused on the daily habits that I need to
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do that if I do them consistently will result in
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the side effects of the outcome or goal. Okay. So
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what can we do to avoid these traps? Well, here's
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a framework that I use myself and have used successfully
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with many people over the course of my career. And
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the first thing I want you to think about is
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what is it that you want? What is it that
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you really want, okay? Have a think about that for
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a moment. Is this five-year plan or this one-year plan,
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is it for your mood? your physical health, your mindsets,
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to improve your relationships, it doesn't matter. Because as I
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mentioned right at the start of this episode, the principles
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of what we need to do to make change in
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our lives are actually very, very similar. Let's not get
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blindsided by the end goal, right? Whether it's your health, mindset,
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or relationships, it doesn't matter. These principles will still apply, okay?
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So now that you've thought about what you want... The
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second thing I want you to think about is why
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do you want it? This is something people often forget about.
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You know, in my career as a doctor, the amount
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of people who came in in January wanting to lose weight.
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They just focus on, I want to lose weight, doc.
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What should I do? But if you don't think about
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why you really want that, you may stick to stuff
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for a few weeks, maybe a few months, but it
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will fall away because you've got to connect the what
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to the why. Let's look at that through the lens
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of weight loss, for example. One of my patients, it
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would be, well, actually, you know what? I'm tired of
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not having enough energy or when my family want to
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go for a walk, I'm the one who has to
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stop and sit down because I'm carrying too much weight
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or whatever it might be. If you can connect to that,
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I really think about that. It's much more likely on
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those tough days when your motivation
drops, as I've already
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talked about, that you're going to stick to the plan
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because you've connected the what with the why. So have
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a think about why you actually want that goal, you know?
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Is it because you like the attention you'll get when
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you've reached that goal? Do you think it will say
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something about who you are when you get that goal? Again,
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for the purpose of this episode, I don't want to
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go too deep into that because we can explore that later.
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in a variety of different ways. Sometimes, actually, the things
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that we think we want, we don't really want. But
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we often don't realise it until we get there. That's
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perhaps for a different episode. But for the purpose of
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this one, I really want you to think about why
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you want that goal. And you might be out for
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a walk now or doing something else, that's fine. But
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maybe later on, sit with a journal or a piece
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of paper and write it down, right? Sometimes, Writing is
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the best way to process our thoughts. I do that
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regularly when I'm not clear on something, I'll start writing
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it out and the clarity comes often through the writing.
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focused on the process. Okay, I've already touched on this
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in the final trap, right? We're often too outcome focused, right?
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What is the outcome that you think you want? Okay,
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keep that in mind. That's the compass. That's the direction
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you wanna travel in. Now, almost forget about that and
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let's think about on a daily basis or a weekly basis,
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what do you need to do that all things being
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well will get you to that outcome. It's a subtle difference,
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but it's arguably the most important thing I have to
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say in this episode, okay? What is the process? Focus
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on the process, not the goal. Focus on the journey,
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not the outcome. That is honestly
the best way to
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make change in your life. And what if I give
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you an example from health, right? Something that I do myself,
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something that I've used with many patients. And there are
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these three rules that I often talk about when it
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comes to behavior change, okay? One, make it easy. Two,
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stick on your desired behavior onto an existing habit. And three,
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have your environment support your desired behavior. This is really,
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really important and it takes us away from outcome and
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into process. Okay, so let's say I wanted to improve
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my health and well-being, right? And let's say I decided
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that I wanted to bring some more movement into my life, okay?
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And this is real because this is what I've been
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doing for many years now. I decided a few years
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ago that strength training was going to be really important
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for me. It's something I wanted to do, that I enjoyed,
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but I wanted to find a way to make it sustainable. Okay,
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so the goal is I want to be a person
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who strength trains.
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Why?
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Because if I strength train regularly, I'm gonna have more energy.
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I'm gonna be safeguarding my health from problems in the future.
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I'm gonna like the look of my body more, whatever
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it might be. I think we can be honest about
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these things sometimes, right? But for whatever reason, These are
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the things that I want. If I'm focused on the outcome,
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I'm not going to get there. But what I focus
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on is, well, what can I do? And so every
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single morning for, I think, seven years now or so,
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I do a five-minute strength workout in my kitchen and
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I rarely miss a day.
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Why?
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Because I follow the three rules of behavior change. Number one,
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I make it easy. My workout is only five minutes.
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If I said to myself I was going to do
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30 minutes a day, well, maybe I wouldn't be doing it.
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But five minutes... is
very, very achievable. So I do.
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I can never say I don't have enough time because
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if I did say that, I'd just frankly be lying
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to myself. I do have five minutes every day, okay?
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So that's rule number one. Rule number two, stick on
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your desired behavior onto an existing habit. What is a habit?
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A habit is an automatic behavior that you do without
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any conscious thoughts, okay? So one of my morning habits
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is that I have coffee. It's something I really enjoy.
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I get up early before my wife and kids. I
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make coffee in the kitchen, just the way I like it,
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and it brews for five minutes. In those five minutes,
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I don't go on YouTube, I don't go on Instagram,
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I don't go on my emails. I do a strength
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workout in my pajamas in my kitchen. That's how easy
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I make it, okay? So the automatic behavior is the coffee, right?
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I don't need a reminder on my phone to make coffee.
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or to check my calendar. That's happening. That's a habit.
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So if I stick on my workouts, which is my
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new desired behavior onto the habit of coffee, it happens.
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Those things start to work in harmony with each other.
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And then the third rule is I have my environment
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support my desired behavior. So what does that mean? Well,
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for me, it means that in my kitchen, there is
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a kettlebell and a dumbbell that lives in the corner
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seven days a week. Why? Because it means that I'm
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being visually triggered by that kettlebell every time I walk
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into the kitchen. So this process focused approach, five minutes
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of strength workouts every day is super easy. I go
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into my kitchen, I make my coffee or the coffee
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brews in my pajamas. I don't have to put on
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my latest workout gear or anything. I've kept it so easy. easy.
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Pick up my kettlebell, throw it around a bit, do
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some swings, do all sorts of stuff. I used to
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do body weight exercises. Now I use the kettlebell. And
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because the kettlebell is in my kitchen and not in
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my garage or my car or another room, Everything around
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me is supporting what I want to happen. So I
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explained those three rules through the lens of health, right?
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And perhaps your plan is to do with health. If
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it is, you can borrow any of that if you
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think it's gonna be useful for you. And the point
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there is that it's not about the strength workout. That
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may not be what you wanna do. You might wanna
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journal or meditate or do some breath work or engage
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in a hobby. It doesn't really matter, but I can
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promise you because I've experienced it myself and I've seen
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it with tens of thousands of patients, if you apply
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those three rules or principles, it's much more likely that
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you're gonna stick to things, okay? So again, I keep
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emphasizing this point because it's really important. Maybe your plan
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is currently about your career, okay? Fine, no problem. So
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let's have a think about that, right? What is the
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process that you need to do regularly that will lead
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to that outcome in your career that you want? Okay,
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so these three rules really, really important. And I can
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pretty much guarantee if you try and apply them, you're
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going to have some degree of success in your life.
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The other thing I want to mention, which really speaks
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to that trap I mentioned at the start, this all
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or nothing trap, right? I want you to balance discipline
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with compassion, okay? Life will often get in the way, right?
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And you have to just accept that. You could listen
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to this episode. You could follow all my advice if
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you choose to and make a plan that's really focused
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on the process and not the outcome. And then you
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know what? You might get sick. Your partner may need you.
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If you're someone who has children, you may find that
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they're really busy and that you don't have time. That's okay,
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that's life, okay? What I try and do with my
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five minute strength workout is never miss two days in
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a row. So show the odd day, for whatever reason,
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I won't end up doing it. And the older version
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of me, or I should say the younger version of me,
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would have beaten myself up. No, I don't. Now I'm
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a lot more kinder to myself. I'm like, yeah, okay.
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For whatever reason, you didn't do it. You were tired,
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you didn't sleep well, whatever it might be. Okay, let's
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not make it two days in a row because if
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I do, that's the start of a new habit and
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it's not the habit I want. Okay, so balance discipline
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with compassion. I think it's something for you guys to
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to think about. And the other thing I really want
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to speak to in this episode before we end, it's
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this idea of regular reflection. I don't think we do
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this enough in society. Again, it speaks to what I
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said right at the start, okay, about that trap that
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it's too far in the future. We don't know who
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we're going to be in five years. So how do
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we know that the plan we make today is the
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plan that the five-year-old version of me actually really wants?
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And the truth is you don't. And there's no way
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of knowing. We're so obsessed with control and certainty about
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the future without acknowledging that nothing is certain in the future.
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That's one of the beautiful things about life. We don't
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know what's going to happen, right? So the way round
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it for me is to regularly reflect. You can do
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this every night, once a week, maybe on a Sunday
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if that's your day off, once per month. And the
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questions I use, if I do this most nights, I
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ask myself these two questions. I say, what went well today?
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And what can I do differently tomorrow? With respect to
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this plan that you want to try and reverse engineer
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in your life, regular reflection is really important. And you
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can borrow those two questions. You can use them if
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you want, or you can tweak them. You know, is
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the plan working for me? Maybe once a month it
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will be, do I think this is still the right
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plan for what I want? Because then you've got this flexibility. Today,
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you make the plan. You focus on the practical application.
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You think it's what you want. And that's great. So
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you do it. But maybe one month in or two
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months in, you might want to tweak it. You might go, actually,
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you know what? Actually, I've learned through this process that
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I actually want something a little bit different. That's completely okay.
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Do not get too rigid.
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And.
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The final thing I want to say kind of relates
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to that. We're all going into this because we want
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to succeed in our plan. But here's something perhaps you
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weren't expecting to hear from me. Even if you don't
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end up where you wanted to go, it doesn't matter.
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It's not failure at all. It's education. This is a
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key mindset shift that you can make that will help you, yes,
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for this plan, but frankly, for every single aspect of
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your life. We can't control outcomes. Things will happen. Instead
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of being a victim to the external world and what happens,
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which many people, if not most people are, I can't
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believe I failed again. Yeah, stupid me. You know, I
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just didn't, I didn't want it enough. I didn't try
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hard enough. This negative self-talk will not help you.
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I promise.
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I had it for many years. I've let go of
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it and I'm way more able to achieve my goals
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and what I want now now that I have a
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much kinder relationship with myself. Even if you don't make
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the plan, you don't reach the plan in the way
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you think you want to today, you will learn stuff
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about yourself along the way. It's really about that mindset choice.
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Are we gonna be a victim to life? or
the
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architect of our lives. And I tell you, I've been
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a parent for 16, 16 and a half years now.
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And one of the key things I try and teach
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my children is that whenever something happens that perhaps wasn't
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what they wanted, I say, well, what's the upside of
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the situation? What have you learned from that situation that
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you would not have learned had that situation not happened?
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And so yes, I want you to get to your
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plan and meet your goals for sure. But if you don't,
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don't worry. And perhaps it was the wrong goal in
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the first place. So guys, I really hope you enjoyed
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that episode. I hope you found... It's useful. If you
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want to learn a bit more about the way I
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think about these things, including an amazing practical exercise that
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have to do is go to my website, drchatterjee.com. forward
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slash tour. That's episode three now complete from me, Grace.
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I hope you're having a wonderful maternity leave. Thank you
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so much for inviting me to be your substitute teacher
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and I'll see you all very soon.
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Right, I'm back again and I hope you really loved
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that episode with Dr. Rangan. I feel like so much
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of that is almost maybe what we don't want to
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hear about putting things into action because you get such
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a dopamine hit from having the goals and setting the goals,
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but actually feeding that through into your daily life. It's just,
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it's a little bit less fun, isn't it? But that
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is literally the difference between you reaching those goals versus
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just you having like a vague wish to be able
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to reach them one day. So a huge thank you
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to him for contributing to today's episode. And such a
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massive thank you to you for listening and supporting my
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podcast during maternity leave.
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As always, we will be.
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Breaking down the main parts of the episode over on
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the Working Hard Instagram this week. Otherwise, I will see
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