บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ It Needs to Stop - NOW

let us have 69 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.519 a voice, because we feel that part of the reason 70 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.639 that the Jewish people have experienced such a massive change 71 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:50.759 in Australia towards US. I mean, I'm Assi, I'm Assi, 72 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:56.319 you know, but I'm not a religious Jewish girl, but woman. 73 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.839 But since October the seventh, since all the hatred that 74 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.680 it's been thrown at US, I started to wear my 75 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.480 mug and David because I'm Jewish and if you have 76 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.079 something to say, you can say it to me. And 77 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.639 ABC please stop with a vice reporting. 78 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:18.720 And that's not all folks at Brown University and Providence, 79 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.920 Rhode Island. An assassin injured nine and shot two students 80 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:28.920 dead this week, including a young girl, Ella Cook, who 81 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:32.120 was a vice president of the only Republican student or 82 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:38.279 on campus. The university administration and the cops badly blue 83 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:43.040 this one. They detained and implicated a young white American 84 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:49.000 military veteran before releasing him and apologizing. They've made public 85 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.199 almost no video at all, despite dozens of cameras on 86 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:57.560 the Brown University campus, and later on it turned out 87 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:01.959 a chunky Muslim student. I think he's a Pakistani who 88 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.040 may be a trans they rather than a he heib, 89 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:10.639 maybe a suspect And to me, guys, gals, this was 90 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:16.879 a fact the authorities have tried to hide because Islamophobia 91 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:26.000 that tired Obama Era canard. Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, the 92 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:30.240 FBI says it has foiled an alleged plot by four 93 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.920 Pakistani immigrants to bomb several sites on New Year's Eve. 94 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.920 Here's Bill Hemmer on Fox News. 95 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:40.199 Breaking News tim in his past the hourre this news 96 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.120 happening out of Los Angeles. The FBI now reports that 97 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.240 has disrupted a planned New Year's Eve terror attack in 98 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:51.480 Los Angeles. Four suspects in custody the FABI identifying them 99 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.800 as members of a pro Palestine extremist group. They're suspected 100 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:00.480 of planning coordinated ied attacks targeting five different locations in 101 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:04.079 Los Angeles. But based on the reporting, now that plot 102 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:07.240 has been foiled, we will wait for more out of 103 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.040 LA or out of Washington. 104 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:08.879 D C. 105 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.720 If what the FBI has to say about that developing story. 106 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:17.639 And later, mister andy No, you know in GEO, the 107 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:22.360 incredible independent journalist very brave, grew up in Portland, has 108 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:24.920 moved to London because of threats on his life. He 109 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:31.800 told me personally by text. Andy No reports that a 110 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:37.279 fifth suspect in this latest FBI LA plot has been arrested, 111 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:43.279 and it's an American trans guy. What is it with 112 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.399 trans and mass shootings? Is it the hormone therapy? Maybe 113 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:53.039 someone ought to look at that Elsewhere in Bellevue, Washington, 114 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.279 this week, a report comes that a man with a 115 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:00.960 Muslim name from a Muslim majority country placed a false 116 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.039 nine to one one call to lure to police officers 117 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.440 to him. Anthony ambushed him. He stabbed one cop in 118 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.919 the neck with a kitchen knife. Enough of this already, 119 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.240 damn it. When are we going to stop worrying so 120 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.799 much about islamo phobia? It is a fake problem. There 121 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:24.960 is no significant incidents of Islamophobia in the US. It's 122 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.840 made up. When are we going to stop worrying so 123 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:34.759 much about Islamophobia and how foreign born Muslims feel and 124 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.720 start worrying more about radical Islam and its designs on 125 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.759 the US? See New York City, my hometown of forty 126 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:47.360 three years, where blinded and brainwashed Libs just elected a 127 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:55.360 Muslim socialist foreigner as their mayor, Kami Mom Donnie, while 128 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.320 some of his Muslim followers say they will spread Islam 129 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:04.120 to every home in New York. Stay out of mind, guys. 130 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:12.600 Foolish people do foolish things. The number of Muslim linked 131 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.840 terror attacks is astounding. I hadn't quite heard it all 132 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.360 toted it up before. Give a listen to this shocker. 133 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:26.279 So I actually couldn't believe this stat was real until 134 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.200 I looked it up myself. But there's been over sixty 135 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:34.799 five thousand Islamist terror attacks since nine eleven, sixty five 136 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:38.840 thousand spread over seventy countries. And we're not supposed to 137

00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:42.720 draw any conclusions from this, right, They're just coincidences, sixty 138 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:47.039 five thousand coincidences. And just in case you think I'm 139 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.720 cherry picking data, which would be a natural conclusion, you 140 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.200 might ask, what about the other religions, So let's look 141 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.879 at them. If you take the world's other four major 142 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:00.840 religions Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and Buddhism, those four religion combined 143 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:06.799 account for roughly two percent of all religiously motivated terror attacks. 144 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:10.720 Islam is responsible for the other ninety eight percent. And 145 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.080 by the way, no one is more knowledgeable about this 146 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.279 fact than the Muslim leaders themselves, who have been very 147 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:21.159 successful imprisoning, eliminating, and sending away all of their true 148 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.000 believers into the arms of white liberals in the West 149 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.639 who are just so eager to bring them in. 150 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.960 That was posted on TikTok by the Ashton Cohen and 151 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:34.080 reposted on x by Wall Street apes sixty five thousand 152 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.519 terrorist attacks at almost a quarter of a million deaths 153 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:44.600 in total since two thousand and one. Grok elon Musk's 154 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:47.559 AI Engine, which I find to be pretty damn accurate, 155 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.919 says that these numbers are pretty much on target. And 156 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:56.480 there's this an undeniable argument posted on x by j 157 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:02.679 jin Xer to video from Tiki Talk by Emmanuel Beach. 158 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:04.639 Why don't we have to get X ray and take 159 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.919 off our shoes every time we go through tsa Islam? 160 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:10.240 Why are they having to put barriers in armed police 161 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.759 in front of Christmas markets in Germany? Islam? Why are 162 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:17.759 girls as early as nine forced into marriages Islam? Why 163 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:22.120 is their town's Fourth of July parade now feature Palestinian flags? Islam? 164 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.720 Why did Sweden's frape stats skyrocket Islam? Why are churches 165 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.240 being burned and turned into mosques in Europe? Islam? Why 166 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.320 is terrorism insurance now a thing? 167 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:33.519 Islam? 168 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.399 Who ran the slave trade that lasted longer than Rome, 169 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:41.240 Europe and America combined? Islam? Who promises seventy two virgins 170 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.360

in Paradise if you blow yourself up? Islam? Why are 171 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.279 knife attacks a daily occurrence in London now Islam? Why 172 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.159 does the kids public school have ramadon decorations but no 173 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.919 Christmas tree? Islam? Why is it call to prayer blasted 174 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.879 at four am in your once quiet neighborhood Islam? Why 175 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.919 did the crusades happen? Why is your toddler stuffed? Animals 176 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.399 swabbed for explosives. Who ran the biggest, longest, and most 177 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.240 brutal slave trade in history. Why are there no more 178 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.919 Christians in Turkey? Why does Spain's reconquest happen? Why is 179 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:14.840 Colone Germany unsafe on New Year's Eve? Why are parallel 180 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:16.799 societies forming in Malmo, Sweden? 181 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:22.320 Islam, like I said, it is undeniable. This invasion, this 182 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.120 assault by radical Islam, all of it, it is undeniable. 183 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:34.240 No wonder. Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama has had enough 184 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:38.639 of this islavic irritation. Here he is on the floor 185 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:40.159 of the Senate this week. 186 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:47.000 This is a major national security threat. Radical Islamists have 187 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:51.600 proven over and over again that they are willing to 188 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:57.159 do whatever it takes to kill just one American status. 189 00:13:57.879 --> 00:13:59.840 And it didn't just happen overseas. It has been a 190 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:02.879 lot out to fester and is alive and well in 191 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.720 our very own country, just waiting for the right opportunity 192 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:11.639 to attack. So now's the time to act, because if 193 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.240 we don't, we're going to lose this country. We know it. 194 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.480 Open your eyes, America. The values of this country was 195 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:25.799 built owned, cannot coinsist with radical Islam. It doesn't work 196 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:32.759 it's one our constitution or the other. You can't mix them. 197 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.559 This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue. This is an 198 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:38.399 American issue. 199 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:43.559 You know. Tuberville in October introduced two bills, the No 200 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:49.200 Shari Act and the Defund Sharia Universities Act, to bar 201 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:55.720 Shariah this Islamic legal system from US courts and withholding 202 00:14:55.759 --> 00:15:00.240 federal funds from any institutions promoting it. And good for him. 203 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.879 It is the right thing to do. We must stand 204 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:07.120

up and fight this Islamic takeover attempt. It has zero 205 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.879 to do with Islamophobia. It has everything to do with 206 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:14.000 protecting our own from a pernicious evil that is trying 207 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:18.600 to spread across the land. And when we come back. 208 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:23.039 Christine Dresen joins us. She's the Republican candidate for governor 209 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:25.840 in Oregon, and she can tell you what it's like 210 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:50.080 when lives run wild. I'm Greg Corumbus. 211 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.120 Join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday 212 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.120 for the Three Martini Lunch Podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, 213 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.919 and crazy news of the day and lots of laughs too. 214 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:02.159 Find us right here on the Ricochet Audio Network at 215 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:15.480 ricochet dot com or wherever you get your podcasts. 216 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.399 And now let's talk with Christine Draisen. She is candidate 217 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:25.240 for governor Republican in Oregon and I managed to meet 218 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.240 her last week when I was visiting the city to 219 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:31.679 attend the leadership conference. Thanks for being with us, Christine. Well. 220 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:34.120 I wanted to talk to you because I'm working on 221 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.279 a book working title Oregonners, and it's basically how the 222 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:43.320 well meaning, way too liberal, way too idealistic policies of 223 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:47.120 Oregon and Portland are threatening the state. They're threatening to 224 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:50.440 do real damage they already have and what can be 225 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:54.320 done to fix that? Will the people even rise up 226 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:57.639 to fix it? Because they've been electing Democrat governors for 227 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.799 forty years. So that's where I'm I'm started. And what 228 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.039 surprised me is so many people. I think I've interviewed already, 229 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.319 more than twenty different people, most of them Democrats. So 230 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:11.400 many people eager to talk to me because they want 231 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:13.839 to talk about the problems in this state. And yet 232 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.640 at that leadership conference that we attended the two Mondays ago, 233 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:22.200 the twenty third Annual Business Leadership Conference, I felt like 234 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.200 I heard the governor make a speech, I heard the 235 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:27.680 mayor Portland speech. I felt like overall, the officials are 236 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.359 not scared enough. They seem to be in denial. 237 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.720 What do you say, You know, there's no doubt that 238 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:35.960 the people that are in charge still believe in the 239 00:17:35.960 --> 00:17:42.359 status quo. They really are still acting like incremental change 240 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:47.319 is good enough. And this last week Oregonians turned in 241 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.880 a record number of signatures to get the gas tax 242 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.160 that was just the governor's signature tax on the ballot 243 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:58.119 here in Oregon, with no paid signature gathers one hundred 244 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:00.559 percent volunteer effort, and they did it in re time. 245 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.759 You needed about seventy seven thousand signatures. They topped out 246 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.559 at two hundred thousand, and they and they had their 247 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:11.359 signatures within the first couple of weeks. That shows people 248 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.680 in Oregon do not like the direction that leadership is 249 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:18.759 taking our state, not on physical matters, not on quality 250 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:23.240 of life matters. And instead these are electeds that are 251 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:28.519 that are choosing to be just so entitled and just 252 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:30.599 so condescending to the people of state, Like there's no 253 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.359 other way to look at it. When we saw that 254 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:34.799 gas tax stuff come up in the legislative process, I 255 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.200 was I was leader at the time and ninety seven 256 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:42.039 percent of all of the all of the public testimony 257 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.279 submitted was in opposition, and the three percent that was 258 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.039 submitted in support was would be from the groups that 259 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.240 would benefit from that new tax. So if you're employed 260 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:54.599 by SEIU, if you are you know, a member of 261 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:57.160 a transit union, whatever that might be, then you were 262 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:00.160 testifying in support of that task. Everybody else across the 263 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.000 state that actually had to pay it, they were opposed 264 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.759 to it. That is just one example of how Oregonis 265 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.319 are feeling right now. And if you look across our state, 266 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:14.599 they absolutely haven't done enough to get addiction under control. 267 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:16.400 They haven't done enough to get people the help that 268 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:19.480 they need on our streets and Oregon, and it's affecting 269 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.680 our business environment. Nobody wants to live in Portland, let 270 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:27.000 alone start a business there for taxes, regulations, and just 271

00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.400 the exposure for their employees to a dangerous environment around 272 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.359 that community. I don't know if you see any of 273 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.440 our politicians, but there was a movement gosh go by 274 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.759 a couple months ago now for them to say everything's 275 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.000 fine in Portland and they walk around and they would 276 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:46.240 videotape the communities as they walked through. 277 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:48.400 It how nice it was. Look at the farmers market, 278 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.079 where is there no problem here? 279 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.880 But if you looked at that, they were recording kind 280 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.319 of waste up. So all the shots of the city 281 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:01.039 were shots that were not couldn't you couldn't see the sidewalk, 282 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.480 You couldn't see the people that they were walking over. 283 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:06.799 You couldn't see the people that were curled up on 284 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:12.400 the ground, sleeping in the stoop They curated even their videos. 285 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.880 Yeah, I walked around downtown a lot, and the two 286 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.559 weeks that I was there separated by a couple of weeks, 287 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:20.920 and I was just astonished at the number of ave was. 288 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:25.000 It's four times the national per capita average. It is 289 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.640 so everywhere and now here in New York we have 290 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.319 Kamie Mom Donnie the newly elected mayor who just the 291 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.920 other day said we're going to stop doing sweeps kind 292 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.400 of Hey, these poor victims of capitalism? What really? A 293 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.440 lot of times the homeless person is a victim of 294 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:42.839 his own decisions. A quick question, well, did you grow 295 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:43.440 up in Oregon? 296 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.519 Yes, I'm a lifelong Oregonian for generation. This is my place. 297 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:50.279 How did a person who grew up in such a 298 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:53.279 liberal state, I mean, they haven't elected a Democrat governor. 299 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.400 I think it's forty years. How did you come to 300 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:57.880 grow up to become Republican? 301 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.480 You know? I think think that the secret of organ 302 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.839 is that only thirty two percent of all Oregonians today 303 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:10.039 are Democrat. This is not a blue mecca, This isn't California. 304 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:13.079 It just so happens that they have been jerrymandering our 305 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:17.920 legislative districts since two thousand and one, and they have 306

00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.119 jerrymandered their way into majorities and super majorities in our state. 307 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.799 And frankly, when the urban core is more motivated to 308 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.799 vote than the rest of the state, you get Democrat governors. 309 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:34.000 But in all those races, for all those forty years, 310 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.079 the thing that has been consistent across in those statewide races, 311 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:40.279 Democrats win when there's a third party center right candidate 312 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.599 on the ballot, because it's that closed. We're very purple. 313 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.559 Our outcomes are blue, but our electorate is purple. And 314 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:48.880 so when you have a third party center right candidate, 315 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.000 the Republican loses on the Democrat slides across the finish line. 316 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:54.680 And that is what we saw again in the state 317 00:21:54.680 --> 00:22:00.000 of Oregon in the last election cycle in raw votes, Trump, 318 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:02.519 I believe, took more raw votes in the state of 319 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:05.200 Oregon than Tina Kotek when she was elected governor. I mean, 320 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.079 just kind of. It's a It was a third party 321 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.839 race in twenty twenty two when she was elected. So 322 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:13.319 this isn't this isn't blue blue heaven here. It just 323 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:17.359 happens to be a dense blue urban core that impacts 324 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.480 the outcome for the rest of the state. But we're 325 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.039 seeing that people in Portland are wanting to stand up 326 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.920 and defend their quality of life. Trust me, I don't 327 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:27.359 know how this thing is going to play out. I'm 328 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:29.759 going to I'm fighting for hearts and minds here because 329 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.480 I believe that the stats close failing our state. But 330 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:35.359 I am from the rural parts of this state, and 331 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:38.119 when I grew up, we had I lived in a 332 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.799 community that was just thrashed by environmental extremist policies that 333 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:45.880 shut down our local economies. So you know, we're dependent 334 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.279 on timber, We're dependent on lumber mills. That's where my 335 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:50.599 dad worked. I mean, just all these folks in our 336 00:22:50.599 --> 00:22:54.440 neighborhoods and our communities lost jobs, you know, unemployed for 337 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:55.680 years and. 338 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.000 Then they get on social social programs because they need help, 339 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.559 like Snap, and then they also end up some of 340

00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:05.039 them getting on drugs. I mean, I'm just being an 341 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:08.079 outsider from New York coming in and studying. I am 342 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.319 stunned with what they did to the timber industry, what 343 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:14.000 they did to the rural part of the state, which 344 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.119 still hasn't recovered. In fact, I don't know what industry 345 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.400 ever came in even close to making up. I know 346 00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:23.839 that board feet of lumber produced by Oregon dropped ninety 347 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.680 percent or more because of the Endangered Speeches Act. I 348 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:31.039 know that they're protecting that stupid spotted owl that later 349 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:33.839 someone told me Dennis was never about the owl. It's 350 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:37.680 about environmentalists who want to stop timber altogether. I do 351 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.119 know also that the industry itself was irresponsible and was 352 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.920 clear cutting stuff, okay, But to just detastate the industry, 353 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.799 to turn the entire United States into a net importer 354 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.400 of lumber from Brazil and elsewhere because of our own 355 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.160 stupid rengulations. It was all so senseless, And to this day, 356 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.240 decades later, there's only twenty five hundred spotted owls. They're 357 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:02.799 getting wiped out by the bard owl and getting mate 358 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.279 with them to produce a new spard owl was all 359 00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:08.799 for nothing. But there doesn't seem whatever I ask anyone, 360 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.680 there can't we undo this? What if we suddenly freed 361 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.759 timbering on federal land, because right now we are losing 362 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.759 two out of every three trees on federal land to 363 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:21.400 insects or fire, so you weren't saving anything anyway. Let 364 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:23.400 them lumber it and then take all of that and 365 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.079 build a hirdred percent would housing projects for low income 366 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:29.839 I mean skate to where the pup's going to be here. 367 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.680 Dennis, you just described how somebody in Oregon ends up 368 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.599 being a Republican in our state instead of a Democrat 369 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:38.839 in our state. Because if you're impacted at all by 370 00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:42.400 these policies which are just advancing a political agenda, and 371 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.039 if you open your eyes at all and see the 372 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:48.200 impact on your community, there is no other response to 373 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.720 that but to say I can't possibly be an extreme 374 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.960 socialist democrat in the state of Oregon. I have got 375 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.039 to be a rational human being, which means you end 376 00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:00.960 up being a Republican in our state because right now 377 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.000 we have got half of our city council as socialist Democrats. 378 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:08.759 You know of America, and those guys are going to 379 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.400 continue to run our urban core into the ground. And 380 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.839 we still have the heavy hand of environmental extremism in 381 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:19.519 the state. Our governor just issued an additional executive order 382 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:24.160 to kill access to energy, to continue to severely limit 383 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.079 access to water. I think what she's doing is going 384 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.640 to harm our agricultural industry moving forward in our state. 385 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.480 Or Haagen organ is suffering. It's suffering under the regulatory burden, 386 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.759 it's suffering under the taxation, the labor mandates are suffering 387 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.079 in our state. So first they went after timber, now 388 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:43.240 they're going after farming. They do not want to be 389 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:45.799 a natural resource based state. They would much rather just 390 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.440 be an urban core of you know, of desk jockeys 391 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.680 and nonprofit industrial complex. They don't want people that actually 392 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:55.880 build things. We're in a manufacturing recession right now in 393 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.119 our state, and they certainly don't want people that are 394 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.119 doing things with the land that is that is a 395 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.160 recipe for failure. 396 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:05.680 Your platform, you talk about a decade of decline, Go 397 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.279 ahead and the bullets some of the decline if you like. 398 00:26:08.960 --> 00:26:11.519 Well, we're talking about and we touched on the beginning 399 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.559 of this conversation. Sixty seven percent growth in homelessness within 400 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.119 Moltnoma County in the last three years. Sixty seven percent 401 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:21.400 increase in the state of Oregon. We have a little 402 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.599 town in Roseberg, which is kind of you go, you know, 403 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.680 down into southern Oregon and are homeless in our state 404 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:29.960 is equivalent to the entire population of that town, about 405 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:34.359 twenty four thousand people. Our prospect streets in Oregon, and 406 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:38.720 it's extremely centered in Molohma County in

particular, we have 407 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.279 the lowest starts for housing that we've seen in a decade. 408 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.119 The governor's goal was thirty six thousand new homes being 409 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.240 built in our state, and we're now a year we're 410 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.640 at eleven thousand right now. We haven't seen numbers that 411 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.880 low in over a decade in our state. We are 412 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.160 bottom of the barrel for reading and math for fourth graders, 413 00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.759 you know, forty seventh in the nation for those out 414 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:01.599 to for our kids. So I mean, even if you 415 00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:04.519 get started and looking at kids in particular in categories 416 00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:06.720 that are much more specific than that, those numbers get 417 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.480 more bismal. Homeless kids, students of color, those folks are 418 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.640 being completely abandoned by our system, and we're looking at 419 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.920 like eleven percent proficiency in some of those categories. We 420 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.039 are shockingly abandoned, abandoning an entire generation of kids with 421 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:24.759 our education system. 422 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.599 Spike spending twenty thousand dollars per pupil, despite spending I 423 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.640 think is ten percent roughly more than the national average. 424 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.319 Yeah, and we get the worst in the nation outcomes. 425 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.240 And so our system is broken because the approach even 426 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.039 for education has shifted away from we have a duderity 427 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.160 an obligation to be able to teach these kids to 428 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.440 read and to be able to understand basic maths, and 429 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.839 now it's all social emotional learning and it is an 430 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.200 equity driven restorative justice approach. Even in our K twelve school, 431 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.400 we're talking about first graders that can have a tantrum 432 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.319 and have a rough day, and the teacher in instead 433 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:05.119 of saying you're out, can expel that kid. Instead, they 434 00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.599 have to do a room clear where everybody else in 435 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:09.480 the room has to leave, all of their learning has 436 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.119 to be interrupted, and in that kid that that teacher 437 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.079 doesn't have the authority to be able to manage that 438 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:20.680 classroom safely. For other students who passed that rule, well, 439 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.759 a lot of this is Tina Cotech when she was 440 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:25.240 Speaker of the House. These are house builds that moved 441 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.039 through the legislative process in twenty thirteen, twenty fifteen. This 442 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.759 is all the Tina Cotech leadership era, and it's gotten 443 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.279 progressively worse. So our classrooms. I was talking to a 444 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.599 teacher the other day and she was saying that she 445 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.440 hasn't legitimately taught math for the majority of this year 446 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.680 because there's a particular student that when it comes time 447 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:46.559 for math, this student struggles and they are disruptive and 448 00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.039 the kids have to leave. And then so math is 449 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:53.599 being taught through homework and assignments and not classroom time. 450 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.200 This is not acceptable. This is not acceptable. Not only 451 00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.279 were we not teaching the science of reading to our 452 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.440 teachers in our teacher training programs, and then those teachers 453 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.079 did not bring that into the classroom, we also were 454 00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:06.960 tying their hands in the classroom to even be able 455 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.920 to advance learnings like let them learn, Let the kids learn, 456 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:13.119 Stop doing political agendas. Stop saying that every kid that 457 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.640 acts out needs to just be ignored and coddled, that 458 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:20.039 that student down. Well, you at least have to have 459 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.799 some consequences so the kiddos know that there is such 460 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.000 a thing as good behavior and bad behavior. If they 461 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.519 need help, we get them help. And if they're just 462 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.200 going through normal behavioral stuff, because that's the age bracket, 463 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.599 let's get them some help. But let's not stop learning 464 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:34.279 in the classroom. But that's what's been happening. 465 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.400 Another thing I've been stunned to learn in my new 466 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.920 study of Orgon is the power that unions have. In 467 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.960 particular three SDIU asked me and the teachers Union the 468 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:51.160 Oregon Education Association affiliated with THENEA. Now, of course, you guys, 469 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.960 I believe you were either the longest or the second 470 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.519 longest shutdown in the schools of all the stinks, we were. 471 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.759 And then the union, when the city government felt like 472 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:03.759 Downtown's dying, let's maybe make our seven thousand employees come 473 00:30:03.799 -->

00:30:05.480 back to work five days a week, the union came 474 00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.880 and said, Nope, you can't even force that. And tell 475 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.519 me if this is apocryphal or if this is actually true. 476 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.400 Kevin Looper, the Democratic operative who takes a lot of 477 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.119 credit for helping build the dem super majority in the state, 478 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.240 only to now say, what have we done? He insists, 479 00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.799 a few weeks ago the SEIU Government employees union took 480 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.440 the twenty six twenty seven I think it is fiscal 481 00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.000 year budget for state government, took it to the governor's 482 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.839 office and said, here's your budget and that's the starting plan. 483 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.519 Also that her advisors are filled with union members. I 484 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.000 was also told by Bruce Starr, the leader of the 485 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.880 Republican Party in the state Senate. I had breakfast with 486 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.880 him at Daily Feast, and he said, on the first 487 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.359 day in office that a new Democrat lawmaker is elected, 488 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.720 the union shows up at his office and says, here's 489 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:57.279 your new chief of staff and it's a union loyalist. 490 00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.240 Are those things true? 491 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.160 My understanding is that they are. I mean, my experience 492 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:09.519 in the legislature has been that the supermajorities are not 493 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.960 actually in charge. It's actually the people that put them 494 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.480 there at special interests, led by union interests and followed 495 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.839 close behind by the organ Trialers Association. I mean these 496 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.519 Our system is broken in our state because the people 497 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.000 that are in power feel entitled to being in power, 498 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.079 and the people that put them in power feel entitled 499 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.880 to get everything because they put them there, and they 500 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.079 do get they get what they want. I mean, the 501 00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:41.640 environmental interests, haven't you know, they haven't been at the 502 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.720 center like they were a few years back, and so 503 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.720 they're now pushing their way back to the front, which 504 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.359 is why we're seeing all this stuff to crush our 505 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.640 access to energy in our state, turn our state into 506 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.839 a rolling brown out like what you've seen in California. 507 00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:58.920 I mean,

we have we are so incredibly dependent. We 508 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.400 have no refineries in we have we don't have access 509 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.680 to our own energy and organ for gasoline or whatever, 510 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.519 and so we're depending on a four hundred mile pipeline 511 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.599 that comes up out of Washington. And that pipeline had 512 00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.279 a problem where it had a crack or something and 513 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.319 there was a spill, and so they had to deal 514 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.319 with it. They shut down the pipeline for two weeks. 515 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.000 And for Oregon, we have no backup, we have no 516 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.640 alternative plans. We're so irresponsible in our state. We're so 517 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.559 driven by political agenda and by an extreme approach to 518 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.759 an environmental agenda that we aren't even taking care of 519 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.839 the basics, Like we don't have a resilience plan for 520 00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:35.400 what we're going to do if there's an emergency. We 521 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:36.960 don't have a backup plan for what we're going to 522 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.000 do for power if the wind isn't blowing, the sun 523 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.119 isn't out. I mean, we're cutting off access to natural gas, 524 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.839 We're cutting off access to petroleum braced products, and we're 525 00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.720 going to be entirely dependent on this green energy concept 526 00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:54.440 without adequate batteries and frankly, with no commitment to Oregonians 527 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.400 themselves to depend on energy or to our economy and 528 00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.759 growth of our economy into the future. So we've got 529 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.640 the unions, but we've also got these other environmental interests 530 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.680 that really originated the killing of rural organ back when 531 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.079 I was growing up. And every so often they pop 532 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.400 their head back up and they make everything harder for everyone. 533 00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.559 You speak more freely and more bluntly, I think than 534 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.400 a lot of politicians that I've ever interviewed. Are you 535 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.440 always like this? Are you fed up and realizing that already? 536 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:23.559 I see the media is covering and saying Tina's going 537 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.680 to win even though she has almost nothing to show 538 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.960 for three years in office, and they're dismissing you. So 539 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.880 are Do you have a new level of openness and blundness? 540 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.279 Is it time to really start calling it out even more? 541 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:39.279 What's interesting is when my history is when I started 542 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.160 in politics. Let me answer this question with a long circle. Here. 543 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.799 When I started in politics, we had Republican majorities in 544 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.000 the House and the Senate. I was a staff person 545 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.559 and I ended my time chief of staff to the 546 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.279 Speaker of the House. So I was in all these 547 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.759 budget negotiations, I was in all these conversations about public policy, 548 00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:58.799 and I was there for all of it. And we 549 00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.039 were negotiating with a Democrat governor. Because to your point, 550 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.359 we've had a Democrat governor for forty years, but there 551 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.839 was a long span where we had strong Republican majorities 552 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.799 in the House and the Senate. That's when I served there. 553 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.280 So then fast forward, I leave or is my family, 554 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:11.920 I work in the privates, after I do other things, 555 00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.760 I come back to run and when I get elected, 556 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.400 I'm in the super minority as a freshman with Democrat supermajorities, 557 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.559 Democrat governor, Democrat juggernaut. And I couldn't even believe it. 558 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.159 I couldn't believe what the change and the experience in 559 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.599 serving it to being in the legislature was. When we 560 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.880 were in the majority, there was a balance of power. 561 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.440 We were negotiating with Democrats because we had a Democrat 562 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.039 governor and there was some give and take, there was compromise. 563 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.800 I come back in the super minority status, and I 564 00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.400 could not believe the level of entitlment. I had a 565 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:48.400 legislator not advance a bill that I had that would 566 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.800 have required schools to just tell parents when their kid 567 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.519 was beat up at school. Notify parents. Our laws right 568 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.519 now require that they notify the superintendent, the principal on 569 00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:59.199 site called the cops. There was no requirement in our 570 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:00.679 laws that they even tell parents are kid to have 571 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.159 been beat up in school. So my bill, tiny bill, 572 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:06.760 would have closed that loophole and required the school tell 573 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.920 parents right away. The chair of that committee did not 574 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.440 advance my bill

and I we had a hearing. She 575 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.599 didn't advance it to work session. I called her after session. 576 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.199 I said, why didn't you move my bill? What happened? 577 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.039 Why did you kill my bill? She said, because I could. 578 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.400 We have nothing to lose in our state. There is 579 00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.519 no reason to do anything but always tell the truth 580 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.519 about what's actually happening, Like pull back the curtain and 581 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.920 tell people. You might want to believe the spin that 582 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.239 they're giving you. You might you might philosophically align with 583 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.119 what they're hoping to achieve, but how they're doing it 584 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.000 and the level of just absolute arrogance, the lack of accountability, 585 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.320 just the fact that they're willing to fail, fail, fail, fail, 586 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.760 and then put lipstick on a pig and act like 587 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:53.239 they're not failing and somehow it's progress is so incredibly 588 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.159 shocking and offensive. I mean, I'm running for governor because 589 00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.360 I believe that our state is extraordinary. I mean, I 590 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.519 love this place, I love the place, I love the people, 591 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.079 and I think that we're just being so poorly served 592 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.920 that I don't I just feel compelled to stand up 593 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.480 and fight for it. And when I was, you know, 594 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.639 talking to some press here in Oregon, they were saying, Eyah, 595 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:13.679 you know, we're so, you know, we understand you're back, 596 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.519 and they're like, you know, you're going to run a 597 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.840 credible campaign. But in the end, teen is going to win. 598 00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:20.840 And it's hilarious to me because we just we had 599 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.440 all these no Kings, right, all the no Kings protests 600 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.840 across the nation. We did them in Oregon. But everybody 601 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.320 that is in the establishment in organ is acting like 602 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.519 what we have is a monarchy here and the monarchy 603 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.199 is under is under the title of Democrat. They're all Democrats. 604 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.159 And once once one king dies, you know, they just 605 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.119 install the son or the daughter that's next in line. 606 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.239 That's how they act, that's how they're treating it. Like 607 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.760 the election doesn't count, like the election doesn't matter, like 608 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:50.519 the election isn't going to happen. We're going to have 609 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.719 an election. It's not personal. I'm not trying to make 610 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:54.840 Democrats lose. I'm trying to make I'm trying to make 611 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.559 Oregonians win, not a party. This is about Oregonians being 612 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.840 put in the center of this conversation. Again, it's not 613 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.639 about a monarchy that is allowed to just install the 614 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.679 next person in line. But that's how the establishment treats it. 615 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.199 And it's only Oregonians that can be the system. Nobody 616 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.000 else can get it done for them. They got to 617 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:13.920 want it for themselves. 618 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.280 Christine Drayson, thank you so much for your time today. 619 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:19.519 So I appreciate you coming on what's bugging me and 620 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.280 talk to me for the book and I'm sure you're 621 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.119 going to be hearing from me a few more times. 622 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:24.920 Best of luck to you in the campaign. 623 00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:26.599 Thank you, good to see again. 624 00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:44.320 Dennis Hello, I'm James Lenwix and I'm at the diner. 625 00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.480 You know, classic American diner chrome long boomerang pattern for 626 00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.519 Michael County with little jukeboxes. We love these and you 627 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.960 can join me here every Saturday, where we talk about 628 00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.039 whatever happens to spring into my mind at the moment. 629 00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.760 There's no predicting where it will go, except that it'll 630 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.000 be done in about thirty minutes. Join me, won't you, 631 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.840 Every Saturday from the Ricochet Audio. 632 00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:08.159 Network Ricochet, Join the conversation. 633 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:17.840 And now for my parting shot. Long ago in nineteen 634 00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.639 seventy six, just a year after I was graduated from 635 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:28.159 high school in Highlyamiami Lakes, Florida, Elton John came out 636 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:32.480 with a mournful song called sorry seems to be the 637 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.440 hardest word. I'd sample it here if it didn't run 638 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.000 a foul of copyright law, so check it out on 639 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:42.360 your own. I've bet a lot of you remember it. 640 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.400 And the lyrics to this song began, what have I 641 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.079 got to do to make you love me? What have 642 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.360 I got to do to make you care? What do 643 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.639 I do when lightning strikes me

and I wake up 644 00:38:56.679 --> 00:39:01.679 and find that you're not there? Which is in a 645 00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.800 way kind of how I feel about this podcast and podcasting. 646 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.119 It's tough out there to make anyone love me, hard 647 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:17.920 to get noticed, even harder to build a following. It 648 00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.800 is as if I am sidled up to the bar 649 00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:26.039 looking for connection than the loudest, most crowded disco ever, 650 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:32.039 which itself is another nineteen seventies reference. And as I 651 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.360 prepare to leave the Ricochet platform and start producing this 652 00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:41.239 show myself starting sometime next year, it occurs to me 653 00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:46.639 that Elton John was wrong. Sorry isn't the hardest word. 654 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:54.000 The hardest word seems to be goodbye. I've always disliked goodbyes, 655 00:39:55.320 --> 00:40:01.239 long ones or otherwise my boys avoided them. When I 656 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:04.880 leave a party, I pull that Irish exit they talk about. 657 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.440 I leave without saying goodbye. I don't want to suck 658 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.239 the air out of the room. I've already been doing 659 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:15.119 that for the previous hour or so. Goodbye means something 660 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.320 is ending, usually when I don't want it to end, 661 00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.519 and lately I'm having to do way too many goodbyes. 662 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.199 As I told you, I'm moving out of Brooklyn after 663 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.639 forty three years here, moving to South Florida to help 664 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.840 take care of my eighty seven year old mom, it 665 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.920 is the right thing to do. On Wednesday morning, I 666 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:36.559 said goodbye to my cleaning lady, miRNA, who has been 667 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.239 in my life since nineteen ninety three. On Friday, I'll 668 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.960 say goodbye to my haircutter and whom I've known in 669 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:47.119 our neighborhood for probably twenty years. And next week will 670 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.960 be time to say goodbye after one last appointment with 671 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.159 my dentist, Robin, whom I've seen a few times a 672 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.840 year since like nineteen eighty seven. That's almost forty years. 673 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.239 And the same goes my dry cleaner, and my butcher, 674 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.599 and my grocery store and wine store, and my favorite diner, 675 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.400 Grand Canyon on Montague Street. Perfect eggs over easy every time, 676 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.480 and they're really hard to cook, and on and on. 677 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.679 It's all a bit too much. I'd like to avoid 678 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:23.320 these goodbyes as much as possible, so instead I'm going 679 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.559 to rewrite this script. This isn't goodbye to any of 680 00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:29.320 those folks and any of those businesses I have known 681 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.320 for thirty years or more. And this isn't goodbye to 682 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:37.320 any of you. The people I did connect with, the 683 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.920 people I did managed to reach with. What's bugging me. 684 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.719 I thank each and every one of you for listening 685 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:48.199 to what I have to say. Goodbye seems to be 686 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.719 the hardest word, so instead let us go with this. 687 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:56.280 I'll see you around. We shall meet again. Thank you 688 00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:59.320 for joining me. Have a merry Christmas and the happiest 689 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.280 New Year ever. You can make it soaked, you just 690 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:15.079 have to believe in it. Ricochet joined the conversation