บทถอดความฉบับเต็มของ 15. I Need a Hobby!

looked good because it had like oats and walnuts, walnuts, yeah, and my chocolates. 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:04.720 And my family will just have to deal because so much I love walnuts and my cookies, but they don't like it as much. 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:05.519 Really? 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:12.160 Yeah, and I'm I always leave it out for them, but you know, sometimes Mama's gotta have what she wants now. 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.480 Yeah, I think you should just do it. 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.240 It added such a great texture to the cookies, too. 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:18.800 Oh, nice. 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:24.000 And they have the these cookies have a very interesting ingredient, they have a little bit of lemon juice in it. 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:25.360 Yeah, I saw that. 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.199 Oh I've never seen that before. 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.000 I don't know exactly what it does chemically. 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:31.120 Yeah, I don't know either. 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:32.720 But they were amazing. 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:43.839 Well, I had to bake a cake because tomorrow is my son's birthday, my middle son, and so he wanted a chocolate cake with vanilla icing. 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:51.439 So I found a recipe that like had buttermilk, and it's turned out so far one of the better cho I haven't tasted it. 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.399 Well, it you know, I scraped off a little of the edge. 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:03.600 You know, it's not the same, but and it tasted good, but you know, a lot of times when you make chocolate cakes, they get greasy, and this does not feel as greasy. 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:14.560 So hopefully it'll be better to ice because sometimes, you know, when that's real greasy, it like I remember one time I made a oh, it was a boots, like Dora, like a boots cake. 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.399 I remember I remember that cake. 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:24.319 Yeah, and I he and it was for my middle son, and he wanted chocolate, and you can't carve I could the car the chocolate. 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:32.480 I think I may have used a box cake, I don't remember, but I could not like shape it well with the chocolate, and it was melty. 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:37.279 I mean, they said it still tasted good, but man, that poor boots looked deformed. 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.879 I mean I'm laughing because I remember that cake. 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:42.959 I remember you sending me pictures of it. 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:44.959 I don't remember it looking bad, as you said. 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:45.920 Oh, it was bad. 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:53.199 I mean, my door cake looks so cute that I made for my daughter, but it was with vanilla cake, and uh it wasn't greasy, but this chocolate. 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.800 Oh yeah, yeah. 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:01.839 So this is a a three-layer cake, which we shall see how it turns out. 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:06.560 But and I use the buttercream that you always use, so that's gonna be

I know that's good. 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.879 It's just I try wanted to try, you know, because I'm so bored, I'm like, I want to try new stuff. 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:15.519 I don't want to use the recipes I have because I want to see if there's something better out there, and you know. 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.639 That's what we've been doing for and even for dinner, trying new recipes and things tonight. 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.519 I'm trying that pasta recipe that you sent me with the mushrooms and the mascarpony cheese. 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.519 That's so amazing. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.720 Yeah, that was a very good recipe. 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:31.360 Yeah. 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.959 Hey, I am like fully embracing mushrooms now. 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:40.319 I wouldn't say that I'm all like yummy, but it I like the taste. 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.879 The texture's still a little weird, but like on that one, I chopped up the mushroom. 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.560 If I chop it up small, it's fine. 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.959 I just can't stand a big hunky piece of mushroom. 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:49.839 Pieces, yeah. 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:50.160 Yeah. 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.480 Well, you've come a long way because when I met you, you were a very anti-mushroom. 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:55.680 Yeah, I was. 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:01.279 And we ordered pizza last week, and I got mushrooms on that too. 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:02.800 You did, yeah, yeah. 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:06.560 Because we got a veggie, and so we were like putting all the good veggies on it. 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:07.839 And yeah, it was mushroom. 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:09.519 Well, hey, it only took 13 years. 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:10.639 Yeah, I know. 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.600 But you know, it's I did it with olives too. 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:15.439 Because remember, I didn't really love olives. 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:20.560 I mean, I would like uh, what are they, the Greek ones, the calamata type that you put it. 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:23.120 I like those okay, but I hated all other ones. 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:24.879 And one day I'm like, you know what? 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:29.120 I'm just gonna make myself like I'm just gonna decide that I like olives. 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:35.600 And I, you know, kept forcing me to myself to have them and stuff and telling them tell myself I liked them, and now I love them. 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.440 So that's what you gotta do sometimes. 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.279 You just gotta decide. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.240 You gotta make the decision to to like something. 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:57.279 Yeah, with all this going on, you know, my hobby has been cooking, and so that kind of segues into what we're we're planning on talking about today, which was our whole episode is about hobbies, and they're more important now than ever. 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:02.000 They really are, and that's what's occupying

our abundance of time. 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.159 It's true, and I think everybody's feeling that right now, you know. 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:13.200 I've seen other people talk about trying new stuff, and so many people are walking around my neighborhood more than ever. 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:15.440 And biking, do you find that? 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:19.360 Yeah, yes, biking and walking a lot. 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:19.840 Yeah. 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:26.399 So, in preparation for this episode, you and I went and tried a flower arrangement class. 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:38.559 Now, this was March 4th, long before the mandate of social distancing and everything closed down, because we were gonna record this the following week, and then the following week is when everything shut down. 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:40.960 So we got it in there, and we didn't even know. 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.360 I mean, it was not even a it was not even a blip on our radar when we went and did this class. 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:58.080 Right, not for uh I mean we knew it was out there because I remember your husband talking about it, and you know, we knew it was out there, but uh we weren't thinking of it in our backyard, you know. 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.120 No, at all. 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:02.720 And so we went and tried this and we'll post all the pictures and stuff. 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:03.360 It was fun. 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:04.480 Yeah, it was fun. 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.039 It was it was a lot harder than I thought it would be. 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:08.320 Yeah, well, I don't know. 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:18.320 I thought it was gonna be hard because I have tried to arrange flowers before thinking it's easy, and it just looks stupid. 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.960 So I had a feeling it was gonna be hard. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.159 It was hard trying to do trying to copy exactly what the instructor was telling us to do. 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:34.080 And once I was like, you know what, I'm doing whatever I want as long as it's relatively the same. 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:34.559 Right. 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:40.559 I felt like it got better because I could just take creative license rather than trying to do exactly what he was doing. 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:41.600 Yeah, I agree. 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:50.960 And it see it also depic seemed to depend on the flowers you had, because if you didn't have full flowers, you had to improvise and use other things to fill it out. 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:51.600 Right. 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:52.799 You're absolutely right. 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.399 The size of the flowers, the type we got and stuff, absolutely. 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:04.399 It was funny though, because we when we went in, we thought it was gonna be a big um, big, what do you call it, arrangement. 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:05.840 And it was like little bitty. 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:06.320 It was like six. 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:09.279 What was it, like eight inches tall, six inches tall? 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:10.559 I mean, it was like small. 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:12.639 More than eight inches, yeah. 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:15.519 Yeah, we were like, oh, it's little bitty. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:22.799 Well, I honestly thought we were just gonna stick flowers in a vase, like full stem flowers, right? 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:23.279 Right, yeah. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:31.440 But this was like a uh floral foam glued to this sculpture that was like a vase. 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:32.559 Yeah, with a handle. 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.360 It like it was like a circle, right? 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:45.759 Yeah, and then we had to like artistically stick those flowers into that foam, and then you know, you had to cut those stems so small, sometimes I couldn't get it into the foam, it would like droop. 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.360 Yeah, so it was a lot harder than I thought. 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.279 When you went to push it in the foam, sometimes it would make too big of a hole. 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.840 Right and it would, you know, and then it wouldn't like fit in there. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:12:01.120 Yeah, so you had to like so that's just one of the many hobbies that you and I have attempted and tried. 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:04.399 It was funny at the the class. 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:10.879 Remember, we went in there and that woman was like telling us how to do everything and where to sit and what to do. 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:12.879 We were like, Uh-huh, does she work here? 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:14.639 And and then it turned out she didn't. 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:16.639 We were like, What is she doing? 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.759 I was like, Go on, figure it out. 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:28.960 I mean, she was nice, she was trying to be nice, but you know, yeah, she was a little bossy, you know, and like just I don't do well with bossy. 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.799 No, me either, you know, like I'm bossy myself, right? 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:33.440 Yeah, yeah. 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:38.320 It interferes with us being bossy because we're kind of like, you know, I would do it this way. 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:39.360 No, I'm gonna do it this way. 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:39.840 Uh-huh. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:40.159 Yeah. 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:45.360 So she was a little bit like, you know, and it I I guess she had come more. 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.120 They had come often, right? 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:52.159 Yeah, it seemed like her and her group that she was with had come multiple, multiple times. 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:52.639 Yeah. 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:57.919 And I was a little upset because I didn't plan well and they had coffee, and I was jealous. 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.200 I was coveting their coffee. 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.519 Well, yeah, I was coveting all of it, but especially the coffee. 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:04.000 I don't know. 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:10.240 I I only

had the one cup, I think, because we had to head out and just didn't get a normal relaxing morning. 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:14.720 And I was uh I was a little jealous and I wanted to steal it from them. 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:15.919 Oh well. 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:17.679 But it was a fun class though. 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:23.200 And the teacher was nice and he was uh engaging and stuff and and friendly. 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:24.879 So it was I I liked it. 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.000 I don't know though that I personally want to continue to organ to arrange flowers. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:31.200 It I didn't like it that much. 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:31.919 How about you? 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:33.360 Oh, I don't think so either. 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.000 Oh, what was the well it was a big flower company? 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.879 What was the fresh flower market flower market? 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:39.919 Yeah, is that it? 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.080 Fresh flower market, yeah, in Boca. 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:42.879 And it's beautiful. 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.960 Man, it smelled so amazing in there. 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:45.759 It really did. 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:48.080 But it's just not my thing. 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:48.879 Nope. 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:53.679 So some of the other things that we tried before cross-stitching. 00:13:53.919 --> 00:14:00.399 Yes, which the cross stitching was okay, and it was kind of it's it's more like a mindless though. 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:04.080 I mean, it's it's not like you know, super intense focus. 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:08.720 And and we would do it while while we were hanging out, which was kind of fun. 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:09.279 Right. 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.120 I think I only did two projects. 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:18.960 One, which was like a Christmas decoration, and then one for Halloween, and then you know, and we'll discuss this a little later. 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.480 It became like, well, what am I gonna keep doing with all the cross-stitching projects? 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.919 Yeah, and that's the problem with all this stuff, even the flower arrangement. 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.440 I came home and it was there on the counter, and I was kind of like, I don't want this here. 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:38.879 I didn't mind it there, but then it's like, you know, how many more flower arrangements am I gonna keep in my house? 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:39.200 You know? 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:40.559 Did you keep the vase? 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:43.440 Um, I think it's somewhere in the garage. 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:44.960 Yeah, see, I threw mine out. 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.240 I threw the whole thing out. 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.840 I mean, I know that's so wasteful, but we have a process here. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.159 Things go to die a slow death into the garage. 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.039 And then once it starts getting in the way in the garage, then it gets thrown out. 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:02.320 But to get it out of the house, you put it there in the garage. 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:02.879 Okay. 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:03.279 Yeah. 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:04.879 The um But I don't know. 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:05.840 It was so funny. 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.120 Somebody, just speaking of garage, somebody was walking by. 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:15.600 Um, the and we moved, we were playing ball on the sidewalk, and we moved out of the way so they could go by. 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.120 And she was like, I pass by your house all the time. 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:21.039 How do you keep your garage like that? 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:22.559 Do you throw out a lot of stuff? 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:23.840 And I'm like, Oh yeah. 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:27.440 I'm known for my purging. 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:28.399 Yeah. 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.120 So yeah, I threw it right out. 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:32.879 I was like, I thought about it for a second. 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.080 Like, what am I gonna? 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:35.919 Am I ever gonna reuse this thing? 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:37.120 And I probably know. 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:45.440 And I thought I could like dump it all out and clean it and then donate it, but then I was kind of like, eh-just throw it away. 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.240 I mean, it's not really like so important to donate. 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:51.840 Like, you know, that's not like a clothes that somebody could use. 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.480 I mean, it's just felt like, yeah, I just got thrown away. 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:55.519 And so that's the problem. 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:57.360 Mine's gonna end up in the garbage too. 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:09.600 That's the problem with all of these, like the cross-stitching, and you know, that it's like you generate stuff, and then you've got to find somewhere like when we painted Bob Ross, I hung it in the boys' room. 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:15.440 But if while I enjoyed painting, if I paint something else, I don't I don't want to hang it up necessarily. 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:17.120 And so then what am I gonna do with it? 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:18.240 Well, that's the thing. 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:23.600 I mean, I painted one, I painted that one with you, and my daughter claimed it and put it in her room. 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:28.639 But after that, maybe if I even did one more, if my son wanted it. 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:31.600 But then after that, where am I gonna put them? 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:39.759 Because we've done the the painting at the you know, the where you bring your own wine painting, what are these called the paint and cocktails type of place? 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:42.559 Right, you come in and the whole group does one painting. 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.320 Yeah, and they guide you through it, right? 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:44.799 Right. 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:50.799 I've done two of those, one with you and

one for my daughter, because she really wanted to do it, so that was her Christmas gift. 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.679 Well, uh, one is in her room, the one I did is in my son's room. 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.080 The one I did, my husband really liked. 00:16:58.159 --> 00:16:58.799 I don't know why. 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:00.480 So it's in our little guest bathroom. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.039 But beyond that, where am I gonna put these paintings? 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:03.919 I know. 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.519 And really, they're mine aren't that great. 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:11.920 They're okay for a couple, they're not okay to litter my whole house with them, you know. 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:13.200 I don't think so. 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:14.240 Mine either. 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:20.000 They're they're okay hidden away in the kids' bedrooms where no one can see them. 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.279 Right, exactly. 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:22.799 That's where mine are too. 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.000 So another thing that you and I tried together was the cake decorating. 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.319 Oh no, it was cupcakes, wasn't it, at Michael? 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.759 Yeah, it was some kind of icing decorating, using icing. 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.400 Yeah, we had to bring our own baits cupcakes, remember? 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:35.759 Right, yes, you're right. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.119 I remember that. 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:38.559 We tried that. 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:45.839 Which that one yeah, I mean, the but doing the the cupcake decorating is cool, especially. 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.440 I mean, you did it as a but I just the class was okay. 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:51.359 And I didn't really learn anything. 00:17:51.519 --> 00:18:02.880 I didn't learn anything either, and that's was a little I mean it I think because I had already done cakes and and cupcakes a little with the kids for the kids, you know, for their birthdays and stuff. 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:09.200 So it just it wasn't like I was wanting some really advanced techniques and it didn't go into that, but no. 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.720 And then we've done all sorts of exercising. 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:13.599 Oh yeah, yeah. 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:15.920 And I think that was probably the most beneficial. 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:16.640 Yeah. 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:22.240 Because there was nothing to bring home except for a rockin' bod, right? 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.799 Which I have now my way out of. 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:38.079 We've done Zumba, Jazz or size, orange theory, we've walked, we've biked. 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.720 The only one I miss really is Zumba, though. 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.119 Yeah, uh, don't miss orange theory and or jazz or size. 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:46.640 Uh no. 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.839 I mean, I I you know, uh, some people might really like jazz or size. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.799 It was just it was just so aerobics for me. 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:57.279 It was just like it wasn't with Zumba, she would build on a routine. 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:02.960 So after we got through and did it, we could like just dance in this routine, do this routine. 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:08.000 But jazz or size was like it was literally repeating like aerobic moves and to music. 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.079 It was not it didn't, you know, I don't know, it was just kind of boring. 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:13.279 And I like walking. 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:21.440 You know, the walking we used to do was fun with the kids, and we'd strap them into the strollers and they'd be they'd be stuck there while we walked. 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.680 That was nice after we dropped the kids off. 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.039 And that too, right? 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:34.160 Those were I don't know, uh time constraints and kids go dropped off now at different times because of different grades and school, so that hasn't been working out. 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:34.640 No. 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:41.599 Oh, and we did do the biking when we were doing which you had said the um the mountain biking. 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:42.079 Right. 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:44.319 Which we did that's a lot last year. 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.480 We were doing it like once a week, once every two weeks, and that was fun. 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:49.279 I liked it. 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:49.839 That was good. 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:55.119 Yes, and I even brought my husband along, you know, and I was like showing off what all I could do on this mountain. 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:12.720 And he was having a walk in his no, we you know, w it was it was just something different, and it was nice when the weather was nice, but then remember when it got a little warmer and the bugs started coming out, and I I went through the spider webs. 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:15.039 I got bit by a spider on the arm. 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.279 That yeah, that wasn't fun. 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.680 The spider web went right in my face and stuff. 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:27.119 So those were some of the hobbies that we did together, but then we've also each done a bunch on our own. 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:31.200 Like um I've done I used to run. 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:39.119 I did marathon a couple marathons and stuff, and I used to just run for fun, but uh then things started to hurt really badly. 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:43.359 But we've actually You had a planter fasciitis from the right. 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:51.759 I write, that's a big hobby of mine, and it's something I haven't been able to do right now because of with the kids' school and I know. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.119 I mean it's really, really hard to concentrate. 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.799 But I do love my I have I have a puzzle app. 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:02.559 I love puzzles in general, like I'm obsessive about puzzles. 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:13.839 Uh, to the

point where when I have a physical puzzle like I do on the table, I will do it until my back hurts, my head hurts, I stay up super late till like midnight doing it. 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:14.480 Yeah. 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:23.039 So I I saw I helped that by getting a puzzle app on my iPad, and it does I can do like 400-piece puzzles, which is pretty good. 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:28.319 You know, it's a good good I can do one of those in a day or let it stretch out in a couple days. 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:29.440 So that is awesome. 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.039 I love it, and I love Minecraft. 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:36.799 I play I used to play by myself a lot, but now I've only mostly just pay with the kids. 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:41.519 But I have had a few failed hobbies which I tried, like scuba diving. 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:52.720 Oh, I tried I I tried that and I just realized I I don't like being underwater and seeing, you know, like I can do a snorkel, but going down deep, I I started to have panic attacks. 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:59.440 And and part of the problem was that I got certified in a uh lake. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:01.440 So it wasn't super clear. 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.960 And so that freaked me out because it was foggy and I couldn't see well. 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:09.279 And so people have been saying, Oh, well, if you did that, you should try the ocean. 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:10.079 It's so much better. 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:11.119 It's not as scary. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:11.839 But I don't know. 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.000 I got s I the whole thing scared me. 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:16.880 Just being underwater and worried and not being able to breathe. 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.640 And yeah, that's not me. 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:21.039 And I I used to do jet skiing. 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.680 And I, you know, it was fun one time. 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:24.640 I'm not a big fan. 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.880 I don't need to have a jet ski and do it all the time. 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.759 I and um I'm not a big beach person. 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.480 Even though that I go, I'm here in Florida. 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:38.799 I don't enjoy hanging out at the beach, going to the beach maybe once a year is enough for me. 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:40.240 What about you? 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:42.079 I agree with you on the beach thing. 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:43.839 I'm uh and the water sports. 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.559 Though those are never something I've considered to be hobbies. 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:50.079 And yeah, I'm a native Floridian, born and raised in South Florida. 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:51.519 I can't swim. 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:56.079 So that takes out a lot of you know the water sports for me. 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:57.440 And I I don't like the beach. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:01.359 If if I lived near the mountains, I'd hike all the time. 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:02.559 I love hiking. 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:03.279 Yeah. 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:05.200 But sadly I don't. 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:06.960 So there it is. 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.119 But what have what do I enjoy doing? 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:12.640 I love reading, walking and biking. 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:19.039 Um I enjoy them and I do them every day or at least mostly every day. 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:27.680 Uh puzzles, but I don't like the puzzle apps because I don't like I've tried them and I don't like the fact that you can't see all the pieces at one time. 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:32.240 I like being able to see every piece at one time, but I love putting it on the table. 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.759 And I'm like you, I'll get obsessive with it until it's complete. 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.200 You know, just back breaks, head hurts, yeah. 00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:39.920 Stay up late. 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:41.599 And that's all I do is the puzzles. 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:42.240 I love that. 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:43.839 I love to travel. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.400 I don't know if I'll ever, ever be able to again. 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:47.200 I know. 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.240 Maybe someday in like a decade. 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:56.000 I've always told my husband that when we retire, that's what we're gonna do is travel the world, you know. 00:23:56.319 --> 00:23:59.759 But right now that seems so far away. 00:23:59.920 --> 00:24:01.039 Hopefully that'll change. 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:01.759 I know. 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.559 Uh, like I said, hiking, and I like crafts. 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:13.839 I like doing like at Christmas time, I make ornaments for friends, and we have a tradition where we make an ornament for my nephew every year. 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.319 Um, I've been doing that diamond art. 00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:23.359 You you showed it to me the first time you did it, you know, where you take the little gems and you stick them on the little stick and you put it on. 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.440 It's like a color paint by color. 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:25.680 Right. 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:26.880 Oh no, paint by numbers. 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:29.680 Yeah, yeah, color by numbers and all that, right? 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:35.440 It's very like um you don't really have to engage very much. 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.240 You just kind of zonk out and just very much, you know, it's been nice. 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:44.319 I started a project, it took me about a year and a half because I never got time. 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:49.680 But now with the abundance of time, I was able to finish the one that I started a while ago. 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:50.720 That's awesome. 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.160 Those are that is fun. 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.519 That's a fun thing to do, and just let your mind wander. 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.599 So m my kids each have one, so we've been sitting together to do it. 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:00.960 So that's been nice.

00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:02.960 What have we done in the in the past? 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.759 Like we've had booking, booking, sorry, book club. 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:07.279 Yes, yes. 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.920 Well, we obviously love reading, that's a big hobby for both of them. 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:18.000 And it was really nice getting together with the other ladies and discussing and cooking used to be a hobby of mine. 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:23.359 It you know, once the kids came and juggling everything, it became what to do. 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:36.000 Yeah, it's starting now to become more something of trying to try new things and to take up time to become something fully enjoyable though. 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:36.559 No. 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.319 I mean, I like when I make yummy stuff, but it's hard exactly. 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.200 Yeah, yeah, it still feels like a lot of hard work. 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:43.920 It is. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.640 I'm good at it and I'm good at the baking. 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:48.640 I just don't know if I really enjoy it. 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.799 Yeah, I I'm right there with you. 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:52.559 It's kind of a love-hate thing. 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:53.440 Yeah. 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.319 Um, what have we done in the past? 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.119 Let's see. 00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:01.440 I like we've done the stitching, and I started stitching when I was a teenager. 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:06.000 My mom gave me these pillowcases that had patterns on them, and you're supposed to stitch. 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.799 Um, so I started with that. 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:14.160 Um, I did enjoy painting, though I don't I wouldn't say I'm very good at it. 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.519 I think you're good at it. 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:16.559 No. 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:26.720 One of the things I used to do in my younger days was um because I've um been trained in Indian classical dance. 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.519 I used to choreograph and teach and perform. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.880 Did that for about 15 to 20 good years. 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:33.200 Yeah. 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.400 But that's uh, you know, that's way in the past now. 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:40.240 But other than that, you know, I've tried piano for a year when I was young. 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:41.680 I was horrible. 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:43.759 Just horrible. 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.240 And I realized that I did not enjoy it. 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:52.240 It was such a chore, which is so weird because my kids love it, they love piano and it comes easy to them. 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:54.640 But I'm thinking I didn't start early enough. 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.559 I started when I was in middle school, and they started when they were five and three. 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:00.160 So I think that makes a difference. 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:01.599 I think it might too. 00:27:01.839 -->

00:27:05.279 One thing I do want to learn maybe one day is learn how to knit. 00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.279 I know it sounds aged. 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:12.480 It might age me, I don't know, but I feel like that would be so relaxing. 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.319 I want to knit a scarf one day. 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.160 Oh, I I tried. 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:27.680 And it might be better now with so many YouTube videos, but when I tried it, I was I think I had a book and I was trying to read the book to figure out how to do these stitches, and it was so hard. 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:29.359 Oh, that does sound hard. 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:36.559 Yeah, and I just wanted to just like you know, you see the ladies just like doing their hands and kind of talking and chatting. 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:42.640 There's no way I I couldn't see myself getting to that point because everything needed my full concentration. 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:43.519 But maybe we're gonna be able to do that. 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:47.839 We are while we chat. 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:54.319 I did actually do some sewing machine work last week when I made our masks. 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:54.960 Your masks. 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.240 And I still have to make some more, and that was more fun than I thought. 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:09.839 But you know, again, I had a YouTube video of how to do it and how to operate the uh sewing machine, so it was it was not as bad as I thought. 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.960 You know, if I had a book and trying to read it, I probably would have given up. 00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:14.960 But that having the video helped. 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.640 Yeah, I think it always helps when you see somebody in person do it. 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.400 Yeah, they definitely for me to follow ambiguous directions in a book. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:31.519 We looked up several, we read several articles about what hot how hobbies affect your life and why they are important. 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:36.079 Some of the things that hobbies help you be obviously is creative. 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:36.880 Right. 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.160 But um they also help with stress relief. 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:40.640 Right. 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.160 And I think that's the whole the mindless ones, especially. 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:51.680 Well, even the ones that are that really engage you and pull you in, all of that helps get your mind off anything that might be stressing you. 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:59.279 And I, you know, like when I'm doing my puzzles, I'm not thinking about, you know, the pandemic. 00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:06.799 No, you're engaged in this one activity in front of you, and it gives your mind a break from whatever everything else that's going around. 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.400 Yep, and I think it's also can give you confidence. 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:17.920 I mean, I have found that with my writing, the fact that I have stuck with something and

been able to figure out how to complete a book. 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:28.480 You probably felt it when you were able to accomplish, you know, designs and cool stuff with your cupcakes and everything, and it gives you confidence that that you're learning new things. 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:29.279 Yep. 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:37.119 Um, so another thing is social and making friends, and that for sure is true because you know, that was true with the book club. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:50.720 Then let's see, personal growth and development, you know, spending time doing an enjoyable activity that's not attached to work or you know, your day-to-day commitment can lead to a satisfaction and happiness in your life. 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.920 That's from Developing Good Habits article. 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:58.079 Yeah, we'll post all these articles on and then the our media. 00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:02.880 The um I have heard a lot about the flow. 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:04.160 Have you heard of that? 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:09.759 It's that state you get in when you're totally absorbed in what you're doing. 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:15.759 On day-to-day basis, like cooking or you know, taking care of the kids and stuff. 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:17.759 I'm not always fully engaged. 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:24.000 A lot of times I'm juggling lots of different things, but when you're in the flow, you're totally focused on whatever you're doing. 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:29.599 And apparently the flow is where the your happiness is. 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:34.480 The most the most of your happy, you know, you the more you can do the flow, the more happier you are. 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:47.359 And in um psychology today, um, they were saying that hobbies, especially those that stretch our skills, foster this desirable and increasingly elusive state where we're like fully engaged in what we're doing. 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:53.519 Like all of our senses, we're not thinking about what we're doing later or thinking about anything else, and that's when we're the most happiest. 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:55.680 So that's that is absolutely true. 00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:02.000 I find that as well when you're sitting there, you know, doing something that you enjoy that you don't have to do. 00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:03.039 Right, right. 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.920 And especially something that uh, you know, takes takes you fully into that. 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.799 Exactly. 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:17.519 However, with all of these things, you know, even with all these benefits, it is hard to find a hobby that you can fully stick to. 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:17.839 Right. 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:27.680 Like what we've just discussed, you know, we've done the painting and the cross-stitching and this and that, but it's hard to stick to it because, well, time is always an issue. 00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:37.440 Even though right now we have a lot of time, in the norm, time is very rare to

try to find to do these things. 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:38.079 It's true. 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:43.920 Like even with the cooking that I've been doing, I'm s being able to spend so much more time cooking. 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.680 I can't do that on a normal basis. 00:31:45.920 --> 00:32:04.480 No, and it's actually I've been trying more and more new recipes now because than before, because you know, before you're juggling school, homework, activities, and all this stuff, it's always the tried and true, quick, yep, 15-20-minute meal that you can get done and get on the table, and now you have all this time to try more things. 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.519 So, I mean, time is always the issue. 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.960 Now, the other thing is is you know, money hobby, most hobbies cost money. 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:18.799 Uh buying the materials at the craft store and stuff, it can get uh quite expensive. 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:19.759 It definitely can. 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:25.519 I mean, even when we did our painting with Bob Ross, we tried to go cheaply as possible. 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:27.680 Like we And it cost Right. 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.079 We didn't buy all the paint brushes he had. 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.319 We made do with whatever we could find cheap. 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:32.960 Right. 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:33.440 Right. 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.039 And it was still about$200. 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.440 And that's with me with using coupons. 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:38.160 I know. 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:45.440 And so that you know, uh and you don't some of it you have to buy a little to see if you like it. 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:51.599 I mean, there are some things where you can try and pay down the road the more if you do like it. 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.960 You you know, but some things you have to to be able to try it, you have to kind of outlay some money. 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.200 And not everybody, you know, can do that or wants to do that. 00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:06.400 And there are some hobbies that can be super expensive, like skiing, boating. 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:07.359 Yeah. 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.599 I mean, I think if you're gonna put down that kind of money for those kind of things, you have to really, really love it. 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.160 Right. 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:15.440 Like with the skiing. 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.039 I mean, I'm sure the people who ski and spend that money love it. 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.920 That is their, you know, it's a state of happiness for them. 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:26.960 Yeah, I think I haven't found that yet. 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:28.000 No, I haven't either. 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.720 And that it's kind of I, you know, I remember I thought, oh, boating would be so fun. 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.759 I think, you know, because I picture myself on a boat. 00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.880 And we rented a boat and it was okay. 00:33:39.039 -->

00:33:42.480 I didn't want it, it was a lot of work, and I I don't really want to do that all the time. 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:46.319 So it's like I find that that's where I end up with with a lot of hobbies. 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.119 It's like, eh, it's nice to do one time. 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:58.720 So I think the only hobby that I can maintain and that doesn't really cause clutter so far for me is reading. 00:33:58.960 --> 00:33:59.519 Yeah. 00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:08.880 Another thing that about hobbies that can be a drawback is people feel a lot of pressure to mone to monetize their hobbies. 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.559 You know, that that that seems to be the culture in the US. 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:20.719 It's like find a hobby, find something you love, and then just like twist it and turn it, get it, get some money out of it, you know, and then it then it's not a hobby. 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:21.679 Well, that's a job. 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.039 I mean, I could speak to that personally because that happened to me with the Kate decorating. 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:36.719 I, you know, it started for me just doing something fun for my kids' birthdays and for your kids' birthdays, and people are like, Oh, you should turn it into a business. 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:41.760 And I tried it, and it really took it took the fun right out of it. 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:52.159 You know, dealing with the clients, and it's not really a creative outlet anymore when you're trying to make the clients happy and what they want to do. 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.920 It's true, it's not because then suddenly you're like serving someone else instead of the joyousness of the thing. 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.239 And so I yeah, exactly. 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:07.760 And so I stopped that because it got to the point where it was so stressful for me, and it where I didn't want to do it anymore. 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:13.280 And I actually didn't bake anything for I think maybe a year and a half after because I just refused. 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:14.800 I didn't want to do it anymore. 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:15.440 Yeah. 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:18.559 And it started off being something fun, and that's where it ended. 00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:28.719 So you're absolutely right, and you know, you see all the you see the people who did turn their hobbies into big moneymakers, but that's not usually the case. 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:29.519 A norm. 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:30.239 Yeah. 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:39.599 And and I have had the same thing with my writing, is that I write and I've then I try to get published, and which is fine. 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:54.320 I mean, it's uh it's a good goal, and I like that goal, but sometimes I get wound up in trying to bend over backwards to get agents, to get everybody to like it as much, and then it suddenly la it loses what it is for me. 00:35:54.480 --> 00:36:05.360 And so I have to balance, I have to get better, and I want to

get better, which requires me to get feedback and grow, but I've got to balance that with what I really want my art to be. 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.320 So and I and it's a very fine line, you know. 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.960 I can't bend my art to be what everybody else wants, but I also need to grow and get better at my art. 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:24.400 So I go through ebb and flows where I'm like loving it, and then other times I'm like frustrated and you know want to stop. 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.000 And so it's it's hard. 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:27.760 I know, it is hard. 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:36.559 But you know, we'll keep doing what we need to do to occupy our minds, and and I do enjoy the things that I do now. 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:37.360 Right. 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:41.440 And I don't know, I guess we should be grateful that we're having the time now. 00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:41.760 Yeah. 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:48.719 Trying to look at the that is a positive, and I wonder at what other hobbies are out there that I haven't thought about. 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:58.320 I've actually looked on like those 50 hobbies, hundred hobbies, and I've just I'll be like going down, nope, nope, like I'll pick it up. 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.400 Well, I'm sure knowing us, we'll find some stuff to try. 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.000 Yeah, it's uh you know, like the geocaching, that was fun. 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.000 And I would totally do that again. 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:09.519 And we have we need to do that again. 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.119 Maybe once it cools down again. 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:12.239 Yeah, that's the thing. 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.920 It's way too hot right now. 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:24.880 But you know, that those kind of things are you know, I want I like to try new things, and I'm I'm actually the most happy when I'm trying different things and pushing myself and growing and stuff. 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:32.480 And sometimes when I get to where I've done a hobby good enough, I kind of like, okay, I kind of lose a little interest. 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.079 I agree. 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:38.800 Well, you know, I think one of the things that I think it should be considered a hobby, right? 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.159 Is our Christmas challenge. 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:40.639 Yes. 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:44.159 Yeah, because that's I mean, that's so artistic and creative. 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.960 And in theory, we're just wrapping a present. 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.239 So it's not like you know, it can be taken apart and we reuse what we can reuse. 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.760 And absolutely. 00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:55.119 Well, there you go. 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.119 We'll find more and more to engage. 00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.159 And of course, the podcasting is a hobby. 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.679 Podcasting absolutely is, which has been a lot of fun. 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:08.079 It has been a lot

of fun, and it's given us an opportunity to work together, right? 00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:20.880 And we did, you know, it it did cost us a little to try to get this going, but it hasn't been exorbitant, and it's something that won't be cluttering anything. 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:36.079 And uh it gives us a chance to all the things that the hobbies have hit, you know, being social and relieving stress, and it's a better way for us to connect as well and connect with our audience, right? 00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:45.599 And even with that money outlay for the podcast, we started off bare minimum until we s decided if we enjoyed recording, you know. 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:56.960 For the first, I don't know, five or six episodes, we didn't have a mixer, and we, you know, recorded off a phone microphone until the garage band that came on my my Mac. 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:10.159 So we have slowly invested, which I think is the best way that I like to approach my hobbies, is test it out as cheaply and as you know, simply as possible, and then if you like it, expand more. 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.320 So yeah, we've done that. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:18.320 Speaking of the hobbies that we enjoy, uh, I think it's time for media moment. 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:21.679 So, Deepa, what have you been reading? 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:27.199 But I did start a new book called The Scent Keeper by Erica Bauermeister. 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:27.760 Okay. 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.000 I'm just starting it now. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:38.079 It's it's a it's about a girl and her dad who live in an island and on an island and it's just them. 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:51.760 And he keeps all these scents on a rolled up piece of paper bottled, and in hit their cabin, he's built this wall of um drawers where he keeps a bottle in each drawer. 00:39:52.000 --> 00:40:06.079 Okay, it's very weird, and she wants to like smell all of them, is always begging him to smell them and stuff, and it's obviously something on the fantasy level, but I have no idea where this is going. 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:09.199 And is is she how old is she, the girl? 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:10.239 Is she like younger? 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.719 Uh it's starting off with her as a child. 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:14.000 Okay, okay. 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:15.599 So it's very weird. 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:29.519 And I from the premise, what it said was that um she opens a bottle or kind of like that Pandora's box that takes her into the real world off the island, and I don't know what's gonna happen after that. 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:30.000 Okay. 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.719 It's been a little hard to like get into though. 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:33.199 Okay. 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.679 But I'm gonna keep with it and see where it goes. 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.119 Yeah, sounds good. 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:37.760 I'll try. 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.280 That's all that's what about you? 00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:42.960

I have all I've that's all I've been that's all I can report. 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:49.199 I uh I finished Station 11, where they were the traveling symphony. 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.519 Uh it was okay. 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:59.280 I mean, there were parts that were great, but there was also it would it seemed it didn't have a lot of tension. 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:04.880 It was like uh almost like what I was reading was a summary of things that have happened, and they just kind of switched around. 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:14.400 So I I felt like it was interesting and it kept my interest enough to finish it, but I I really wanted the like edge of your seat kind of tension, you know. 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:22.000 They it almost got there, like someone was following them, and then you know, it just it was a lot of that, you know, a lot of you down a little. 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.800 Yeah, and I I just but overall it was good, and you know, it was interesting. 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:31.360 Did you ever finish that book about the chocolatier or no? 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:32.239 I gave up on that. 00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:33.679 I oh it wasn't good. 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:46.239 No, I it was just boring, and I and the the state the station eleven came available, and I wanted to read that, and you know, the library that we use, you only get a couple weeks. 00:41:46.400 --> 00:42:02.800 So I might gr go back to it, but the thing is that Station 11 came available, so I finished that, and then right as I was finishing Station 11, where the Crawdads sing came available, and I've been on hold with that for like three months because it's like a very popular book, and it's pretty good so far. 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.400 Let me know how that is because I'm on hold for that book too. 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:25.119 Yeah, it and it's it's uh it at first it was kind of like what you know, she gets everybody leave like how can her mom leave her and all that, but she's like because she like lives in a marsh, and um, but it it's got it's got my interest now because there's like a there's like a dead body. 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.519 And she it starts off when it's kind of telling two two timelines. 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:35.840 One is when she's a kid and how she's dealing with being alone and abandoned, and then one is when she's grown. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:46.880 So okay, yeah, it's good, and I'm still slugging through the stand, which by Stephen King, which I like, it's just 1200 pages because it's so gargantuan. 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.039 So I'm like 30% through. 00:42:49.199 --> 00:43:01.760 So I read on that, I read on each one like a little bit each day, you know, to because it's gonna take forever with the the Stephen King one, but I'm liking it, even though it is about kind of like what we're going through now, just on a lot worse. 00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.360 Well, see, that's the things that we've watched. 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:11.679 I don't know, and I I've made the mistake of letting my husband choose what we watch in the evenings, and I shouldn't. 00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:16.239 So far, he has made me watch Outbreak. 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:25.599 Um I think we watched a little bit of it was another virus type movie, and I'll and I can't remember the title right now. 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.760 And I was like, no, I just can't. 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:28.400 Yeah. 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:32.800 You know, so they're a little too close to home right now. 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:33.360 Right. 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:37.440 Well, I'm on the part in the stand where it's kind of past all that. 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:44.239 So they're just like, it's kind of how world, you know, uh everybody's dead, and the craziness that's kind of left behind. 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.800 So it's Oh, I I remember what we watched. 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:47.679 I Am Legends. 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:49.199 Do you remember that movie with Will Smith? 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:51.760 Yeah, I it's a zombie movie. 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:56.800 So obviously I have watched Zombies Are to you what vampires are to them. 00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:58.719 Yeah, 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.559 The zombies in that movie are freaky. 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:04.800 The zombies are freaky in that movie. 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:05.360 They are. 00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.159 And my daughter wanted to watch it, so we let her watch it with us. 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:09.599 Didn't affect her at all. 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:10.000 What? 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:11.039 She slept like a baby. 00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:12.880 Oh my gosh. 00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.159 She's got nerves of steel. 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.639 She wants to watch The Conjuring now. 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:21.199 Well, she'll probably be fine. 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:25.199 She won't be watching it with me because I don't do horror. 00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.199 Not to that level. 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:35.199 Yeah, we've been watching um all the Marvel movies like in order. 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:40.000 So I think we are up on okay. 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.119 Oh, uh, I think Doctor Strange next or something. 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.840 And so those are so we're it's not anything new, it's stuff we've watched before. 00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:57.119 And then we've also, I was getting my older son to watch Psych with Me Again, which he we watched one episode, and he was like, It's okay. 00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:57.760 I'm like, what? 00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:59.280 I said, That's the pilot. 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:00.719 Give it some more time. 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.360 Because I mean, it's just a hilarious show. 00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:04.000 I don't know. 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:05.519 I love that show. 00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:06.320 I know. 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:07.760 Uh he liked it okay. 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.480 He thought it was funny, but you know, the pilot

was a little different. 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.800 Like Juliet wasn't in it yet. 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.440 And you know, they're all a little stiff. 00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:17.519 You know how it is when it's the first episode. 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:18.719 Gotta give it some time. 00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:19.440 Yeah. 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.079 And my uh middle son watched or he read Divergent series. 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.320 So we've been watching all those movies again. 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.639 And I'm so over those movies. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:34.559 I mean, I love I liked them at first, and I liked I like the books and everything, but I'm just seeing them a lot now. 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.840 And so the only thing really good about him is four. 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:47.679 He was in that miniseries, Sanitin, that I was enraving about the last episode. 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.159 Now it's gonna go on my list. 00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.159 He was the male romantic lead. 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.719 Oh, yeah, he's nice to look at. 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.239 Agreed. 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:03.519 I was planning on trying to read that witch, no, the vampire, whatever I forgot. 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:04.880 Discovery of witches. 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:05.760 Yeah, the yeah. 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:07.519 But I have all these other books. 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:09.840 Yeah, Crawdad came available and all that. 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.519 So eventually I will get to that book that is on my list once I get through all these. 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:18.239 I don't think you'll have to wait whenever you do get to it, because that those books have been out for a while. 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.239 So there wasn't any hold on them. 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:21.840 I was able to check them out right away. 00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.480 It's a trilogy, it's called the All Souls Trilogy. 00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:25.440 Okay, yeah. 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.119 So that is on my list. 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:36.880 But yeah, that's uh other uh just been reading and watching stuff we've seen before, so nothing really groundbreaking there, but we're enjoying it. 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:44.079 For our next episode, what we're gonna discuss is, and this should be interesting because I'd like to see what you're gonna say. 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:49.119 Um, we're gonna talk about what each of our five favorite books of all time. 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.920 Wow, this is it's gonna be hard. 00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:59.280 And it's quite it's quite um a responsibility, I feel like just jot down five books. 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:03.039 I really have to think about these five books and how they've affected me. 00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:03.760 Yeah. 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:05.360 And I don't know where to start. 00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.360 I only have one on my list so far. 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:08.960 I have one on my list. 00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.679 It's kind of an obvy, but we'll yeah, I'll I'll come up with more. 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:15.519 This is gonna be interesting. 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.199 It's gonna be Friday. 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.360 I wonder if we'll have any overlaps. 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.400 I'm I bet maybe one. 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.079 Maybe one overlap. 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:25.840 One overlap, you think? 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.800 That's what I'm bet I'm getting I'm betting on one overlap. 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:29.599 What are you doing? 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:30.239 Maybe two. 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:31.519 Okay, so you're betting two? 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:32.719 All right, we shall see. 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:33.599 Okay. 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:34.559 It's on. 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:44.400 Well, we hope everybody's staying safe out there and well, and you know, surviving this horrible thing we're having to go through. 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.400 And who knows when we'll get back to normal. 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.000 But everybody hopefully soon. 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:54.639 Yeah, I hope everybody keeps heart and knows that we'll we will get through it, whether it's uh weeks or months, but we will get through it. 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.719 All right, stay tuned for next time. 00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:57.360 Bye. 00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:58.159 Bye. 00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.039 Thanks for listening to the We Never Learn Podcast. 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.400 Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.760 You can also follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.119 And visit us on we never learn podcast.com.